Whatever Podcast - September 07, 2026


Lindsay Clancy DEBATE: 7 Feminists vs. Brian! 2 KICK OUTS! Hater CONFRONTS Brian?! | Dating Talk 311


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10 hours and 57 minutes

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165.67

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108,879

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3,425

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Misogyny

774

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Toxicity

1,380

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Hate speech

1,071

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Transcript

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00:03:21.360 Just curious, any women here have an Audi? Any Audis at the? 0.95
00:03:27.400 OK. All right. Tatum, too. That's it. Just two. OK.
00:03:33.020 I'm doing the reason I ask, I'm actually collecting statistics on this because there's no definitive data on the percentage of any versus Audis.
00:03:45.160 I don't know I thought it was 50 50 I think it might be a bit lower okay you're adding I have
00:03:51.800 a question is it labia minora or labia majora inner lip so that would be labia minora okay
00:03:58.920 yeah thank you for clarifying now like the the out the exterior labia could contribute somewhat to
00:04:08.760 you know a little bit but we're talking about the inner the labia minora i believe minora yes
00:04:16.240 um but yeah so it's it's very there needs to be statistics and i i'm collecting them so 1.00
00:04:21.880 okay so that's i don't know 15 maybe um all right uh let's see what else we are casting women do you
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00:05:09.020 above okay without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves
00:05:12.440 starting with you go ahead hi my name is kelly 24 from orange county um i originally from vietnam
00:05:23.780 but I moved here when I was 18. Okay you moved to the U.S. when you were 18 and did your parents
00:05:33.520 move too or just you? They do but they don't stay here so they don't they don't stay here at the
00:05:40.860 majority of the time they stay in Vietnam. I'm going to adjust your microphone slightly so you're 0.98
00:05:45.100 going to move the microphone to the very very edge of the table and then scoot it one inch this way
00:05:53.780 so it's straight to you uh no no like straight on yeah okay uh do you have citizenship in the
00:06:00.780 united states i have a green card a green card okay now what explain to me i guess the mechanism
00:06:06.800 for someone moving here and getting a green card what um what's that process like um you have to
00:06:14.580 be under some kind of condition so it either has to be like investment or marriage or it has to be
00:06:21.620 some kind of condition you can't just like move here you just get a green card for staying it has
00:06:24.980 to be in some category so for uh my parents is investment so it took a little longer it's like
00:06:32.840 um because after you have a green card you have to wait five years to get citizenship so okay yeah
00:06:38.620 um and uh you said investment so what what does that mean so you have to spend certain kind of
00:06:49.100 money uh into some government business but you don't lose the money you actually still have the
00:06:54.560 investment but you kind of like help the u.s government to like whatever business they needed
00:07:00.580 money to and they'll just give you the green card for your whole family and every year the the amount
00:07:06.060 of money raises so it's not the same every year so i don't know how much it is now but they're
00:07:11.020 back in vietnam is that correct yeah they mainly live in vietnam so they just come here like once
00:07:16.080 in a while. And you have any siblings? I do, but he's in Vietnam. He doesn't want to come here.
00:07:21.720 And any college, anything like that? I have a master. Okay, master's in what? Information
00:07:29.200 system. Information systems, all right. And what do you do for work? I do content creation. Okay,
00:07:35.280 OnlyFans? Yes. Okay, how long you been doing that for? For six, less than six months. Six months?
00:07:41.300 the information
00:07:44.000 systems wasn't cutting it?
00:07:46.000 Helping.
00:07:47.800 Since AI. And you live in
00:07:49.920 like LA? I'm in Orange County.
00:07:52.160 Orange County, okay.
00:07:53.580 Alright, Orange County, rock and roll.
00:07:57.200 American Dream.
00:07:58.420 American Dream, come from 1.00
00:07:59.860 communist Vietnam
00:08:01.060 and then you get to 1.00
00:08:03.940 sell your pussy 1.00
00:08:05.600 for $4.90. 1.00
00:08:07.500 What's your subscription price?
00:08:10.140 What do you charge?
00:08:11.300 You get to that, right?
00:08:12.200 That's American dream.
00:08:15.040 America.
00:08:16.120 But it's on sale right now.
00:08:17.980 All right.
00:08:18.440 There's a discount.
00:08:19.220 There you go.
00:08:19.780 All right.
00:08:20.960 All right.
00:08:21.820 What about you?
00:08:24.200 Hello.
00:08:24.740 My name is Tessa.
00:08:26.980 Okay.
00:08:27.860 Yeah.
00:08:30.200 Wait.
00:08:30.780 Do me a favor. 1.00
00:08:31.580 Just for everyone, just leave the mics where they are. 1.00
00:08:36.080 Don't move them.
00:08:37.400 Move yourself to the mic.
00:08:38.620 Don't move the mic to you.
00:08:39.920 Okay.
00:08:40.260 Tessa, go ahead.
00:08:41.300 Age? I'm 18. All right. Where are you from? I'm from San Luis Obispo, California. Slow. Okay.
00:08:49.720 And college? No. All right. What do you do for work? I'm on OnlyFans. How long you been doing
00:08:59.520 that like two months when did you turn 18 eight months ago okay all right what about you my name
00:09:13.180 is elise winter 27 and i'm a courtesan at the bunny ranch gotcha um where are you from grew up
00:09:22.180 in the D.C. area. And, uh, Bunny Ranch, that's in, uh, Nevada. Yes. Uh, how long have you
00:09:29.800 been out there for? Um, just a couple months. Gotcha. And, uh, any college, anything like
00:09:35.660 that? Yeah, bachelor's, double major, and, uh, half a doctorate in dentistry. Uh, sorry,
00:09:42.340 bachelor's, and was there something in between? Um, just a few years of office work, um, but,
00:09:48.780 Yeah, half a doctorate in dentistry, so very expensive.
00:09:52.520 And the bachelor's was in what?
00:09:54.020 International policy and chemistry, double.
00:09:56.560 Double major, international policy and chemistry.
00:09:59.180 Okay.
00:10:00.320 And then almost finished your PhD, was it, in dentistry?
00:10:05.360 It was a doctorate.
00:10:06.160 Doctorate, excuse me.
00:10:07.240 Same thing, yeah.
00:10:08.100 Yeah, and okay.
00:10:10.000 So how far along were you in that before?
00:10:13.940 It sounds like you stopped the dentistry path.
00:10:16.700 Yeah, yep.
00:10:17.400 um how long were you in I guess dentistry school for um so I did two years I passed the academic
00:10:23.360 boards and then I was in clinic when I decided it wasn't for me wasn't for you just staring down
00:10:28.820 people's throats wasn't having people tell me that I was hurting them all the time oh because
00:10:34.160 with the are you gonna hurt me and I was like well quite possibly yes that's you know I go to
00:10:40.160 a dentist where they have the high what are they called the dental hygienic hygienic hygienic
00:10:46.060 hygienists
00:10:48.000 hygienists
00:10:48.440 it sounds dirty 1.00
00:10:50.460 they do everything
00:10:53.580 and the dentist like pokes around for five seconds
00:10:56.520 doesn't even poke just
00:10:57.560 alright you're good
00:10:58.900 looks good
00:11:00.320 so you could maybe just get a dental hygienist
00:11:04.100 do the dirty work you know the grunt work
00:11:05.820 why would I do that when I could get paid so much more
00:11:08.200 to do so much less
00:11:09.080 well in terms of the
00:11:11.760 dentistry track you know
00:11:14.240 you wouldn't have to do
00:11:15.900 all the pain stuff right all the you know incisions and sutures and extractions and
00:11:21.900 anesthesia yeah no uh so you you did get a bachelor's degree in chemistry and instead of
00:11:29.080 breaking bad by producing big mistake big mistake by producing meth i regret not turning left to
00:11:35.020 become uh you are a legal a courtesan which is um for people who are not familiar with the term 0.70
00:11:42.520 it is a woman who what prostitute prostitute okay i mean you can call it a steak or a chunk of dead 0.97
00:11:48.700 cow a chunk of dead cow i'm just saying there's you know it's presentation but there's there's 0.99
00:11:56.880 wizard sleeve um no there's just a there's there are differences but you know well yeah you you
00:12:04.840 work in a brothel so they go to the brothel and then versus you're not like on the street or like
00:12:10.040 escorting not very familiar with the street version of us but there are a lot of differences
00:12:13.840 yeah how long you've been escorting or excuse me um prostituting i suppose for um a few years
00:12:21.040 okay a couple years yeah and how long in the brothel only in the brothel i've never done
00:12:25.580 anything illegal no gotcha what was the uh draw i suppose um you know um it's you get blood drawn
00:12:33.140 and swabbed every week you get fingerprinted so you got a background check so there's a lot
00:12:37.200 of accountability there's um wait you became a prostitute because it's safe you get your blood
00:12:43.200 no no well it's safe so it's regulated by the government well i suppose the question is not so 0.58
00:12:49.020 much why are you drawn to the problem i had tremendous debt i had tremendous um from dentistry
00:12:54.440 school yeah med school debt parents didn't pay no parents family is not yeah not not that good
00:13:01.260 yeah no all right um okay and then uh let's see uh dropped out of dentistry went to the brothel
00:13:11.660 only fans or anything like that or just the i'm thinking of starting it but not yet no any 0.67
00:13:16.680 stripping or anything like that nothing else sugar daddies sure he picks um i would do it
00:13:24.520 but not yet okay so pretty much in terms of the scope of the sex work you would say it's
00:13:30.360 almost exclusively been brothel work yeah okay all right and you said a few years okay and uh
00:13:37.660 what's your um ethnicity i'm actually vietnamese vietnamese and a little mixed yeah and you said
00:13:47.400 mixed yeah okay can do you speak vietnamese vietnamese you speak vietnamese i do but
00:13:53.840 yeah can you can any of you do the vietnamese nail salon impression you know i'm talking about
00:14:00.600 That your finger go like this.
00:14:02.060 Ooh, I like, wait, can we hear it?
00:14:04.940 You want Chris Donnelly?
00:14:07.380 All right, you guys have to, we have to make a little deal here.
00:14:11.140 You guys have to speak like that the whole show.
00:14:13.480 Really?
00:14:14.020 Yeah, I'm saying no.
00:14:16.920 You down?
00:14:17.480 I think I can, I can be down. 1.00
00:14:18.960 I'm going to just hire a Vietnamese, I'm going to go to the nail salon, hire a Vietnamese lady. 1.00
00:14:24.300 Good times. 1.00
00:14:24.640 Just to do the, I like the accent, it's cool.
00:14:27.240 Okay, so what about you?
00:14:29.380 I'm Katie Mecca, and I'm a rapper.
00:14:31.800 I'm from a little small town in Canada, Ontario, called Belleville.
00:14:36.980 I usually claim Toronto just because everybody knows where Toronto is.
00:14:43.640 You claim Toronto?
00:14:44.980 Yeah.
00:14:45.200 Like you're set?
00:14:46.240 Yeah.
00:14:46.640 Like you're?
00:14:47.140 Yeah.
00:14:47.960 Okay.
00:14:48.420 Age?
00:14:49.300 28.
00:14:50.280 28?
00:14:51.400 Okay.
00:14:52.200 And any college or anything like that?
00:14:53.700 Yeah, I actually went to school to be a dental hygienist.
00:14:57.740 There you go.
00:14:58.560 I was doing the dirty work. I didn't like it. During COVID, we couldn't do our clinic,
00:15:04.420 so I started dental assisting, and then I got poked with a doctor twice, and the person that
00:15:11.040 I was working for at the time didn't send me to the hospital, anything like that, so it kind of
00:15:14.720 turned me off of dental, and then I started doing things like construction. I'm back in healthcare
00:15:21.120 right now um i'm working for an optometrist um okay but i'm more entertaining than i am uh
00:15:28.160 enjoying the health care side okay and uh you're a rapper give us like a what do they call it a bar
00:15:37.140 a verse i don't know a bar um no i don't make me better i took the money and i put it in my dress
00:15:44.700 so then i bought a jetta with a lock box because i got a vendetta a vision for my future i gotta
00:15:48.880 get better nice there you go there you go you should collab with drake i guess um okay i actually
00:15:56.720 have him on snapchat so all right uh what about you hello my name is kiana st claire
00:16:02.880 i'm 27 and i'm a legal courtesan at sherry's ranch in pahrump nevada
00:16:11.440 where are you from san francisco california
00:16:14.320 27 what's that face 27 yes i'm 27 as is she yeah oh wait hold on hold on just a second here
00:16:27.640 um wait wait wait wait 27 27 27 that's right 0.99
00:16:44.320 Oh, my God, Tiffany, you fucked it up so bad. 0.99
00:16:50.740 There's nothing wrong with curb. 1.00
00:16:51.880 Actually fucked. 1.00
00:16:52.500 You're in Disney house and music. 1.00
00:16:53.600 I love it. 0.97
00:16:54.740 Actually fucked it up. 0.87
00:16:55.880 Okay.
00:16:56.300 All right.
00:16:57.860 All right.
00:17:00.140 Okay.
00:17:01.580 So you're actually 27?
00:17:03.660 Yes.
00:17:04.300 For safety reasons.
00:17:05.920 I'm 27.
00:17:07.100 Okay, so you're lying.
00:17:07.820 Yes.
00:17:08.160 All right.
00:17:08.760 That's fine.
00:17:09.360 Are you lying about your age, too?
00:17:11.020 Yes.
00:17:12.040 Oh, my God.
00:17:12.500 Well, let's be honest.
00:17:13.340 Why would revealing your age have an impact on your safety?
00:17:23.740 I just don't need that information out there.
00:17:28.400 Okay.
00:17:30.340 Are you in your 30s, though?
00:17:32.440 I might be.
00:17:35.120 How old do you want me to be, Brian?
00:17:36.880 Well, I want you to participate in the dating discussion podcast in good faith and be forthcoming and honest about your answers.
00:17:48.260 So it's not about what age I want you to be.
00:17:50.200 I just want, like age is a biological marker.
00:17:53.860 So you were born a certain date.
00:17:55.560 We're not going to do the whole trans thing where it's like we're not going to do like the fake science or whatever. 1.00
00:18:00.420 So, yeah, I don't want you to tell me the age that I want you to be. 0.64
00:18:07.020 I just like your date of birth and then do the calculation in your brain.
00:18:11.640 Therefore, I am this age.
00:18:20.080 All right.
00:18:21.380 Okay.
00:18:21.900 I'll just say they're in the 40s then.
00:18:23.780 What about you?
00:18:24.620 I'm not going to participate in good faith with you guys, though, just letting you know.
00:18:28.200 Go ahead.
00:18:28.760 So I'm Jalen Blunt. I am from San Antonio, Texas. I'm 29 years old. And, oh, I do acting and promotional modeling, so giving out free liquor at the bars. And I went to college for two years and dropped out.
00:18:46.700 Okay. And let's see here. Where are you from? Sorry.
00:18:52.520 San Antonio, Texas.
00:18:53.880 And what were you studying? You said you were there for two years and then you dropped out?
00:18:57.560 I did acting. That's my studies.
00:19:00.420 Okay. What about you?
00:19:02.360 Hi, I'm Tatum Love. I have been a legal prostitute at Sherry's Ranch for three years, 0.62
00:19:09.800 and I am in the process of transitioning to OnlyFans full-time,
00:19:15.740 and I graduated in May from the University of Nevada with a bachelor's degree.
00:19:22.680 Okay. Age?
00:19:23.960 I'm 30.
00:19:24.720 all right i take it is that your real age or yeah i was born in 95 graduated high school in 2013 i
00:19:33.960 don't know if you need other markers okay what about you um my name is robin i'm 43 i have a
00:19:42.420 bachelor's degree in accounting and i'm currently in school getting my master's degree in financial
00:19:46.840 analysis. Okay. I'm from Philly. From Philadelphia. Got it. Next. Hi, my name is Rozelle. I'm actually
00:19:56.820 a Christian content creator, and I actually run a ministry online where I tell people about Jesus
00:20:02.940 through gaming. I am from Los Angeles, but I now live in Greenville, South Carolina, and
00:20:10.260 oh never graduated college did content creation majority of my adulthood did you say age oh 30
00:20:19.400 I'm 30 30 okay what about you hi my name is Sabresia and I am 28 years old right now I am
00:20:27.880 just learning to walk by faith and follow God if he's real then I really want to see what that is
00:20:33.420 so I've kind of devoted my life to that I'm studying biblical studies and theology at Moody
00:20:39.140 Bible Institute in Chicago. I currently, I got a, an autoimmune disease this past year. So I've
00:20:45.800 taken a, some time off school just to manage my health. Um, but I have just a few classes left
00:20:51.520 and then I'll be done and we'll continue ministry. Lupus? Hashimoto's disease. Okay. All right. Uh,
00:21:02.060 let's see if there's anything else. Uh, going around the table, we're going to do relationship
00:21:05.680 status uh what's your relationship status single uh for how long for two years two years longest
00:21:15.180 relationship two years was that the one that ended two years ago no it was uh they're both
00:21:22.340 two i have two relationships and they're both two years gotcha okay uh so you've been single
00:21:27.040 for two years there's no has there been any guys in the picture in the past two years
00:21:31.620 not really no uh all right now you've been doing only fans for six months you've said
00:21:41.040 okay now of course it's well known that many only fans girls secretly like have boyfriends
00:21:46.980 but they wouldn't say they have a boyfriend because it of course hurts their bottom line
00:21:52.160 um so you may very well have a boyfriend but you wouldn't admit it on the show um go ahead
00:21:59.460 um i'm single all right for how long like a week two weeks you have a terrible poker face i'm just
00:22:11.060 letting you know um okay uh so one week you said two weeks sorry you've been single longest
00:22:17.340 relationship eight months eight months okay all right um so you broke up with someone a week ago
00:22:26.900 So, was this, you said you were supposedly in an age gap relationship?
00:22:31.980 Yeah.
00:22:35.860 Yeah?
00:22:37.020 Sorry, just, that was some gnarly head tilt there.
00:22:41.420 Maybe that's your poker tell.
00:22:44.420 Okay, so you broke up with your 44-year-old boyfriend, was it?
00:22:50.080 Yeah.
00:22:53.720 It was.
00:22:55.020 Okay.
00:22:56.900 do you want to perhaps elaborate a little bit you want to elaborate
00:23:04.660 i was dating a 44 year old man that's been established thank you for reiterating um now
00:23:16.000 uh why did you break up
00:23:19.300 um because i wanted to because he was mean
00:23:24.360 because he was mean
00:23:27.720 broke up with him yeah
00:23:29.640 in what way was he being mean
00:23:33.320 just that all the time behavior disrespectful
00:23:38.080 all the time behavior disrespectful
00:23:43.080 okay so looking for a little more precision here
00:23:48.680 so he was mean he was disrespectful
00:23:51.040 how is he disrespectful
00:23:52.940 i don't really care to share i mean like you're on a you're dear you're on a dating discussion 0.97
00:24:04.600 podcast yeah that's true but i mean it's not like i mean i don't want to talk shit
00:24:16.580 or I don't I don't want to be mean on camera do you think you guys might get back together
00:24:26.540 and that's why you don't want to say it no can I say something real quick no I'd rather not
00:24:31.420 engage in this bullshittery next I've been single three years longest relationship was five
00:24:37.620 single three years longest five what about you I've been single since May and my longest
00:24:45.020 relationship was four years. Is that the one that ended in May? No. Okay. How long was that one?
00:24:52.420 A year. Okay. Who broke up with who? I broke up with him. For your relationship, who broke up
00:24:57.080 with who? He broke up with me. Okay. What about you? Single since 2022 and longest relationship
00:25:04.460 two years. Ever married? Any kids? No, I do not have any children. Okay. What about you?
00:25:15.020 I currently have a boyfriend, and I'm also legally married.
00:25:20.660 You, hold on, you have a boyfriend, but you're legally married.
00:25:25.640 Correct.
00:25:25.940 So you're separated from your husband.
00:25:28.020 Correct.
00:25:29.380 Are you going through divorce proceedings?
00:25:31.840 No.
00:25:33.560 Okay.
00:25:36.440 What's the story there?
00:25:38.660 Like how we separated or?
00:25:41.420 Yeah.
00:25:42.020 um it was just ongoing of how we separated I would say it was kind of both of our faults
00:25:48.140 and unfortunately I just I decided to separate from him um yeah I don't I don't want to like
00:25:55.760 down him a little bit there's things I need to take accountability for that I did so
00:25:59.960 okay um so why not get a divorce I suppose I guess
00:26:11.400 um that's a little bit on tiffany what are you doing
00:26:14.820 it's a little bit on me of why i don't want to get divorced um i'm just having like a little
00:26:22.300 bit of animosity and so i feel like um a lot of it's financial and we were in a 50 50 relationship
00:26:28.920 so now that um if i were to file i know i would have to pay for it so i have a little animosity
00:26:34.580 doing that. Got it. Okay. Um, how long are you married to this guy? Um, married three years
00:26:42.580 together, eight years. Any kids? No. Okay. Um, is he just like a wall? Is he just completely gone?
00:26:52.640 What's, what's his involvement in your life? If any, um, we're cordial, but we don't speak just
00:26:57.960 respect to my relationship now. How long have you been with your current guy? Oh, we've been
00:27:02.840 together uh five months five months okay next i've been single for a year and a half um
00:27:12.720 longest relationship was that one and it was three years
00:27:16.460 who broke up with who um it was mutual he just really was uncomfortable with my line of work
00:27:26.440 Got it. Next. I've been single for about a year now, and my longest relationship, I think, was
00:27:33.880 seven years. Any kids? I have one child. Ever married? No, never married. The one child,
00:27:40.460 is that from the seven-year relationship? Yes, it is. Who broke up with who? I broke up with him.
00:27:46.460 Does he pay you child support? I never put him on child support, and we just worked it out because
00:27:52.600 we really respected each other and we just tried our best. Do you co-parent? My son is now 18 so
00:27:59.860 we don't co-parent but my son was diagnosed with cancer last year and we had to be with each other
00:28:04.640 three times a week after not spending time with each other. Like he's gotten remarried and
00:28:08.280 everything and it was all I could think was wow like this would be really awful if this was some
00:28:13.520 of my other like boyfriends and I kind of felt grateful I had a child with this person because
00:28:18.480 we really worked as a team and it was it could have been devastating without him there so okay
00:28:23.640 all right uh next um my longest relationship was four years current relationship status oh uh i'm
00:28:32.680 single uh the last relationship i got out of was uh january 1st okay and you said two years four
00:28:42.280 four years who broke up with who i broke up with him any kids no okay what about you i'm single
00:28:48.300 and my last relationship where it's been like a year and a half and then my longest one was
00:28:54.500 a little over three years you broke up with who i broke up with both of them oh with both of them
00:29:00.920 okay all right uh we're gonna jump right into our first topic for today which is the uh lindsey
00:29:08.220 clancy trial which concluded on friday now uh who some people may not be familiar with it but
00:29:15.900 But let me get a temperature check first.
00:29:18.260 Who here is familiar with the Lindsey Clancy case, maybe by show of hands?
00:29:29.900 Sorry, everybody?
00:29:31.440 How about who's not familiar with the Lindsey Clancy case?
00:29:35.180 I'm not highly informed.
00:29:36.740 Well, not highly informed, but I think many people are not highly informed
00:29:42.260 and have come to conclusions about the case.
00:29:45.900 so um i suppose going around the table uh do you what do you think of the case do you
00:29:55.220 support lindsey clancy do you think she's innocent well as far as i know right now i don't know what's
00:30:01.960 the true jurisdiction for it but i think she's the one who did the the killing right physically
00:30:07.960 right is that what it's going on so I wouldn't yeah she was on so she was on trial for she's 0.76
00:30:15.340 strangled her three young children and the trial concluded in a mistrial on Friday and
00:30:26.320 the what's called was it Thursday or Friday just concluded in any case it was a mistrial and
00:30:34.940 It's somewhat unclear what the jury's individual conclusions were, but what seems to be hinted at was 11 of the jurors wanted to find her not guilty by reason of insanity.
00:30:51.020 At least that's what seems to be suggested in the news reporting.
00:30:53.800 There is one holdout juror who wanted to, I believe, I assume, find her guilty for murder.
00:31:01.700 So one juror, a man, wanted to find her guilty for murder.
00:31:06.400 And the total jury, the makeup of the jury was nine women, three men.
00:31:12.720 So nine of the women, two of the men, wanted to find her, I believe, not guilty by reason of insanity.
00:31:19.460 So there was a mistrial because there was not a unanimous decision.
00:31:24.200 But so, yeah, I guess if you want to continue your thoughts on that.
00:31:27.480 I wouldn't say she's innocent, but I would believe that she's insane at the time.
00:31:34.700 She was insane at the time.
00:31:35.860 Because I don't think a normal, a regular, like a normal woman, like a normal person would strangle three of her kids at once like that. 0.96
00:31:47.000 Yes. 0.92
00:31:48.340 And so you would say you were on the jury.
00:31:52.900 So there's a couple different options.
00:31:54.240 Obviously, one of the options was you could just find her completely, do a complete acquittal, just not guilty, period.
00:32:02.640 And then she'd be completely let off.
00:32:04.820 There's not guilty by reason of insanity, which is a finding that she's not criminally responsible. 0.77
00:32:11.640 She did the acts, but she's not criminally responsible for doing them because of the supposed psychosis that she was in.
00:32:19.760 uh and then there's guilty of there were a couple different charges but essentially the easiest way
00:32:25.700 to explain it would be guilty of murder um so you would find her not guilty by reason of insanity
00:32:31.540 exactly okay what do you think um i don't know i've thought about it a lot because to me it's
00:32:40.600 like a really interesting case because it's just really disturbing so i read like a lot of
00:32:48.000 different people's opinions and takes and how they view it both sides and I I don't I don't
00:32:54.560 have one of my own I don't know I wasn't there you know based on what you've researched I
00:33:02.640 understand you were not in Boston Massachusetts at the time or wherever you know wherever in
00:33:07.480 Massachusetts it took place um do you have a leaning in one direction or the other no
00:33:14.200 I agree with what she said about
00:33:17.460 there's probably some mental health stuff 0.85
00:33:19.680 going on there but she also did it
00:33:21.380 so I don't know if there's some 0.90
00:33:23.580 kind of ruling where it could be like
00:33:25.180 taking into
00:33:27.460 account that there were mental health issues
00:33:29.420 but she did it. That makes sense. 0.99
00:33:32.060 Yeah well I don't think there's
00:33:33.260 I mean there's certainly people online who
00:33:35.240 question whether she did it. Some people think she's
00:33:37.360 innocent. There seems to be a lot of
00:33:39.340 evidence though. That she did it.
00:33:41.480 Yeah. Yes.
00:33:42.060 Um, but, uh, yeah, I guess it's more so for, for the more realistic question is her criminal 0.69
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00:34:41.140 responsibility due to supposed insanity or psychosis um so you you do believe she did it
00:34:50.720 however you would perhaps and again i know we don't have it's just about setting the precedence
00:34:57.800 does that make sense because if we find her not guilty then it's just sending a message right so
00:35:02.940 yeah for posterity for future cases and right yeah but i mean my my thought process here is
00:35:11.580 anyone who chooses to kill someone are they ever really in the right state of mind that's why i'm
00:35:19.180 like i can't say not guilty because she actually if she if there's a overwhelming evidence which
00:35:24.380 there seems to be that she did it and i'm not going to be popular for this because you know
00:35:28.920 people might say i'm not a girl's girl but well i do you do you have to side with a child i'm just
00:35:35.040 trying to be honest regardless of gender so sure uh what do you think uh i think she is guilty and
00:35:42.020 i think that this is a situation where she should be monitored and researched so that this would
00:35:49.760 prevent future tragedies um because we don't don't have a lot of mental health studies like most of
00:35:57.480 our like even like our drug studies they only do clinical trials for eight weeks so even you know
00:36:05.240 on that kind of line we need some kind of a basis and she could be a good start but she should be 0.88
00:36:12.020 locked up and in a facility and studied. Gotcha so do you think say you were on the jury would you
00:36:19.880 find her guilty of murder or would you find her but and just to be clear if the not guilty by
00:36:26.140 reason of insanity she's she's not sentenced to prison but she is sentenced for a period of time
00:36:34.280 to uh psychiatric confinement so basically a mental institute a mental hospital and they can
00:36:41.600 keep her there there's a 40-day hold and then you know this can basically be renewed for longer 0.98
00:36:48.680 periods indefinitely, but technically she could be released in under 40 days. The more likely 0.96
00:36:58.400 outcome is she's going to be in psychiatric confinement for years if she was found NGRI,
00:37:07.820 not guilty by reason of insanity. If she's found guilty, she goes to prison. 0.78
00:37:13.380 So would you find her guilty? Would you find her not guilty by reason of insanity?
00:37:18.680 Guilty. Guilty. Okay. Your thoughts? I, again, don't know. I've not been keeping up with the
00:37:25.000 case due to other things, but I know that hurting people is never okay. So bottom line. Okay. So if
00:37:33.240 you were to, if you were on the jury, not guilty by reason of insanity, I need you to speak into
00:37:41.420 the mic. Probably NGRI. I know that her mental health needs to be attended to. That's what it
00:37:46.820 sounds like okay uh so you it's your position that you think she was uh insane at least at
00:37:56.020 the time is insane or was insane at the time the crime was committed i need a verbal uh response
00:38:03.600 if you can yes for how yes for how much i'm gathering yes yeah okay next um i also haven't
00:38:10.760 specifically watched the entire trial i've just done some what i've seen obviously on tiktok and
00:38:15.980 independent research. But I do have a question for you. I thought you said one of the previous
00:38:21.140 podcasts that if they came to a conclusion that she was guilty, then that specific person you
00:38:27.580 were talking to that said in their individual response not guilty, that they would have to
00:38:32.640 come to that conclusion that she is guilty, whereas this has become a mistrial. So how do
00:38:38.100 you feel on that? I'm sorry, can you restate the question? Yeah, so it's kind of long-winded. But
00:38:44.680 there was a previous podcast where I think an individual had said that she would state that
00:38:50.900 she's not guilty and you are on the side of guilty. And you said that if they came to a
00:38:56.400 guilty verdict and she admitted that she would be on the side of, okay, then I trust a jury,
00:39:00.620 then it would have to be guilty. But in this case, it was a mistrial. So how do you feel about that?
00:39:06.140 Feel about the mistrial? Feel about? Yeah, because obviously, I mean, I know that your
00:39:10.520 stance a little bit is that there's more women on it but if they became a mistrial wouldn't you 0.85
00:39:16.160 have to be like okay now i can understand both sides of the story at this point because there
00:39:21.200 was a mistrial or are you still on the side of like this has to be guilty well okay um i'm i'm
00:39:31.040 not really hearing a question um i'm just curious since it was a mistrial are you still in the
00:39:39.100 sense of it has to be guilty. Well, I'd like to withhold my thoughts on this until I get everyone's
00:39:45.520 answer. Okay. So why don't you give me the answer to the question that was asked, and then I'll
00:39:50.780 answer your question after. Okay, no problem. I would say just from independent research and
00:39:55.980 unfortunately not watching the entire trial that I would say not guilty. So one point of
00:40:01.400 clarification, not guilty by reason of insanity or not guilty, period? Reason of insanity slash,
00:40:07.760 I think some of it is falling on her husband.
00:40:11.640 Okay.
00:40:13.260 So not guilty or NGRI?
00:40:18.340 I'll fall under NGRY, but I could be persuaded, depending on the jurors, to not guilty.
00:40:24.560 Well, okay.
00:40:25.160 My understanding, the jurors, it wasn't, so not guilty, period, is she did not commit the crime.
00:40:32.380 So whether she was in psychosis or not, determination of insanity would be irrelevant if it's a true exclusive not guilty because if you didn't commit the crime and you're insane, like it doesn't matter.
00:40:47.220 So just to be clear, my understanding of the jury is not guilty by reason of insanity.
00:40:53.460 So that means it's not a not guilty in like a whodunit trial.
00:40:58.120 So like in most, a lot of murder trials, it's a whodunit.
00:41:02.480 So the defendant is often saying, I didn't murder the person.
00:41:06.540 In this case, the defense is not trying to argue that she didn't commit the crimes.
00:41:13.220 They basically stipulate to she did, in fact, commit the crimes, but she should not be held.
00:41:18.960 Or well, she did, in fact, commit the killings, but she should not be held criminally responsible by reason of insanity.
00:41:27.100 So not guilty by reason of insanity.
00:41:29.300 That's different than just a straight-up not guilty.
00:41:31.480 So you think, though, that there's evidence pointing to her not even having committed the crime.
00:41:39.060 Is that correct?
00:41:40.240 Yes, just because of kind of the husband's involvement in it.
00:41:43.960 The husband's involvement in it.
00:41:46.260 Okay.
00:41:46.420 um so can you tell me what are your pieces of uh evidence or proof that you think the husband
00:41:55.820 was involved or in what ways lindsey clancy uh did not commit the crime just what from what i've
00:42:05.680 seen he had stated that when he found one of the children the child was laying on the ground
00:42:10.900 and the police statement said that the child was found um am i allowed to say hanging
00:42:17.140 i don't like that's sure okay i just don't want to be obviously we're talking about children so
00:42:24.020 okay be respectful he okay what else and also the way um with what happened to her her this 0.67
00:42:30.980 the slitting of the throat um and most women would not slit their throat to i guess the s word 1.00
00:42:39.320 and am I allowed to say
00:42:41.740 on the live
00:42:42.340 most women would not do that 1.00
00:42:44.860 in the way that it was slit 1.00
00:42:47.920 it did not seem like a causation
00:42:50.280 of the way she would do it
00:42:52.300 if she was doing it to herself
00:42:53.320 and he is left handed
00:42:54.700 that's why they're trying to say
00:42:56.980 that he potentially did it
00:42:58.580 okay so
00:43:00.760 is there anything else
00:43:03.920 besides those three things
00:43:06.400 I mean the other
00:43:08.700 kind of general stuff is just the way he's his mannerisms so his mannerisms I mean I don't
00:43:16.420 basically go off of that because it's not purely evidence but I know that some people have what
00:43:20.960 what specifically about his mannerisms just more just what seems to be some type of nervousness
00:43:26.540 and seems to be nervous okay go ahead continue yeah it seems to be some type of nervousness and
00:43:32.360 not. Are you nervous right now? Somewhat. I think you might have murdered somebody,
00:43:38.040 but go ahead. Continue on with your, continue on with your. I think it's a lot different in that
00:43:44.000 case, but, and also just somewhat of the storyline, not adding up as the first statement I said.
00:43:49.780 Okay. So his mannerisms, his nervousness, is there anything else you want to add?
00:43:56.100 Is Zodiac, do you want to add the Zodiac? What was he, a Leo or is he a Gemini? What is he?
00:44:01.940 I don't think I fall under that train, but sure.
00:44:03.820 Not that train. 1.00
00:44:04.280 Some women are forwarding that as a hypothesis that she's a Leo, and Leos don't do that, 0.96
00:44:10.640 or he's a Gemini or some shit, or what is it? 0.99
00:44:13.440 I don't know, fucking Libro? 1.00
00:44:14.660 Who fucking knows? 1.00
00:44:15.440 It's all bullshit. 1.00
00:44:17.060 Okay, so a couple things here. 0.99
00:44:21.680 So he reported, you said there was a child on the ground,
00:44:25.820 and that the child on the ground was hanging or something,
00:44:29.640 whereas his claim was that the child was face down okay and this establishes how would this
00:44:38.740 directly establish that he killed the children because he either misremembered something or
00:44:44.280 or misspoke i mean miss can i ask you a question when when everyone came in to the studio literally
00:44:52.260 like an hour ago do you remember the order that everybody entered the door through like could you
00:44:58.620 point to which girl came in the door first and who came in the door second and third and fourth
00:45:02.540 and fifth yeah for the most part okay go ahead um she walked like who came in let me look at the 0.64
00:45:07.760 security camera and make sure you actually have this right okay so who who came in through the
00:45:12.780 door first precisely and then second and then third and fourth and fifth and sixth okay
00:45:18.960 you want me to wait till you pull up the yeah yeah give me one sec okay oh wait hold on
00:45:26.100 that would be really impressive if you actually remember that because i wouldn't
00:45:31.540 somewhat remember yeah all right i think i'm ready okay okay so she had come in first
00:45:41.040 okay
00:45:43.920 who came in first and she had who right here her she came first okay um
00:45:55.520 And just to be clear, the door to the studio, right?
00:46:00.500 Oh, the door to the studio.
00:46:02.160 Sorry, I was getting the downstairs door.
00:46:03.500 Right, this door here.
00:46:05.180 Oh, sorry, sorry.
00:46:05.940 Okay.
00:46:07.640 I would say she came in first. 1.00
00:46:09.480 She came in first.
00:46:10.360 Okay.
00:46:11.780 Do you recall, were you first?
00:46:13.840 No.
00:46:14.400 No.
00:46:15.200 Okay.
00:46:16.740 Who's second?
00:46:17.980 Who was second? 0.98
00:46:19.300 And then her. 1.00
00:46:20.460 Her. 0.98
00:46:20.900 Who was third?
00:46:22.580 Okay.
00:46:23.420 Then me.
00:46:24.180 Then you.
00:46:24.540 You were fourth.
00:46:25.220 You were fourth through the door.
00:46:26.460 Go on.
00:46:27.120 Next.
00:46:27.880 And then this is where I'm going to draw a blank since I already came through the door.
00:46:38.120 It's between you all, but I can't remember.
00:46:39.940 All right.
00:46:40.280 So here's what I'm going to do.
00:46:41.400 And Sabresia here is going to confirm.
00:46:43.920 She's going to.
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00:47:36.020 Look at this with me, too.
00:47:38.020 So you said she came in first, and then I think she came in second, right?
00:47:43.260 And then I forgot the other pink.
00:47:46.040 Okay, fair enough.
00:47:46.620 I don't remember that.
00:47:47.520 So hold on, let me start it.
00:47:51.380 All right. So you're completely wrong. So the first person through the door is the woman in purple there, chair three, followed by chair five, followed by this girl right here, then fourth in her. You were fifth in.
00:48:10.440 Okay. And then I think we get the idea. So this happened, well, just moments ago and you can't
00:48:19.480 even remember the order in which people enter. I think it would be a lot different if it was
00:48:22.360 something of a tragedy that happened versus just walking through the door. Well, hold on. But I
00:48:28.100 think, have you ever been in like a fight or flight, like insane anxiety response? Yes, I have.
00:48:34.600 I don't know if you've ever like called the police on something. It could be something benign. Like,
00:48:38.920 I don't know someone stole your purse or something
00:48:41.580 this can even something fairly
00:48:43.520 benign where you're calling the police can
00:48:45.500 put you in a state
00:48:47.720 of
00:48:48.480 anxiety and kind of
00:48:51.580 fear
00:48:53.500 and other things so the guy
00:48:55.160 arrives home I think he first
00:48:57.240 comes upon his 0.78
00:48:58.220 wife who's like in the snow with 1.00
00:49:01.300 like cuts and laying 1.00
00:49:03.400 there like nearly dead or some shit 1.00
00:49:05.160 then goes into the fucking basement 1.00
00:49:07.440 or wherever the kids are sees his three children dead and then calls the police and is probably 0.99
00:49:14.580 this is like the worst moment of his life worst day of his life uh probably in shock
00:49:19.980 and he didn't accurately state the precise position of where one of his slain children is
00:49:29.060 and this is now evidence that he murdered his kids yeah i've been in a fight or fight situation
00:49:35.300 Maybe in the moment I got the details wrong, but, and then when I have the time to think
00:49:40.080 about it, it would come back to me in more detail.
00:49:42.800 So I don't really understand entirely that position.
00:49:46.380 Well, didn't you say that it was he, um, like it was the phone call to the police, right?
00:49:53.280 Or are you saying when he was recalling it on the stand three years after the murder
00:49:58.260 occurred, which was it?
00:49:59.540 I actually don't remember precisely.
00:50:02.100 I think.
00:50:02.240 So you're just making it up.
00:50:03.200 understand well that's why i said i didn't specifically watch the trial i just said what
00:50:07.420 i'm doing on what i have seen online obviously that's where where do you get your news from
00:50:12.020 typically like google tiktok um more facebook okay i'm gonna come back to some of these but
00:50:18.120 before we dive into like any of this stuff i want to get everyone else's take on this um your take
00:50:23.120 um obviously like super sad situation so i haven't like dove in in as much but i consulted my parents
00:50:32.820 about it this morning and my dad said that um she did admit to it at one point um so she clearly did
00:50:41.700 do it but she did also send a text message to her doctor a couple months before it happened saying
00:50:47.120 that she was having a lot of uncomfortable intrusive thoughts so i mean i do think that
00:50:53.100 points to some sort of psychosis going on but it doesn't change the fact that it did happen
00:50:58.160 So if you were on the jury, would you find her guilty of murder or not guilty by reason of insanity?
00:51:04.720 I mean, I wish there were a third option, guilty by reason of insanity.
00:51:09.720 But I don't know if that makes sense.
00:51:12.440 OK, sure.
00:51:14.440 OK, what about you?
00:51:15.680 I would absolutely find her guilty without a doubt.
00:51:19.100 And I actually have some insider information about the case.
00:51:22.760 And Brian, you're not going to like this.
00:51:24.180 she actually had an extremely big labia and it made her go crazy apparently that's a symptom
00:51:30.920 women with very big labias sometimes do things like that and you support big labias and i just
00:51:37.800 wanted you to know who you're supporting actually it's true and um this was her problem and this is
00:51:43.940 how i know she's guilty wait you know she's guilty because she has a big labia yeah the weight of the 0.88
00:51:51.140 Big labia just pulled her down. 0.92
00:51:53.580 People with big labias commit more crimes. 1.00
00:51:56.840 That's a hot take.
00:51:58.120 All labias matter. 1.00
00:52:00.560 We can't support this group of criminal labia people. 1.00
00:52:04.160 So are you joking? 0.99
00:52:05.300 Did she actually have a big labia? 0.84
00:52:06.700 It's insider information. 1.00
00:52:08.420 And there's also studies about how big labia is.
00:52:11.160 Do you believe that's true?
00:52:12.300 Lindsay Clancy labiaplasty?
00:52:17.120 Maybe if she would have gotten a labiaplasty, she would have not done that. 0.53
00:52:21.140 But you don't want him to.
00:52:22.280 Yeah, yeah.
00:52:22.740 So I just Googled. 0.99
00:52:23.880 Brian wants babies dead. 0.99
00:52:26.360 Oh, my God. 1.00
00:52:26.920 Oh, okay.
00:52:27.680 I see no evidence that Lynn, I don't know where you say you have this insider information from.
00:52:32.900 There's no evidence. 0.56
00:52:34.040 Obviously, this must be a troll.
00:52:35.660 Funny, though, it may be.
00:52:37.640 I don't see any evidence.
00:52:38.880 I'm glad you thought it was funny.
00:52:39.640 Okay, but so.
00:52:40.860 I just wanted to make a little joke.
00:52:42.880 You made your little fun. 1.00
00:52:43.860 I hate this woman. 1.00
00:52:44.820 I think it's so disgusting what happened. 1.00
00:52:46.460 I will never forgive something like that.
00:52:48.380 And I told you what I'm going through with my son.
00:52:50.380 Like, come on.
00:52:50.900 That's horrible. I can't imagine that. And I don't care if you're criminally insane.
00:52:54.560 I just don't. I don't have any empathy for her. And that's what it is.
00:52:58.580 Okay. Gotcha. So guilty.
00:53:00.720 Guilty.
00:53:01.240 All right. Next.
00:53:02.280 Yeah. I mean, just listening to a lot of you ladies talk about your opinion on her mental health. 1.00
00:53:08.340 I think every person that has been incarcerated to a degree has some form of mental instability.
00:53:16.200 And because of that, I don't know if I am comfortable with saying, you know, well, this person is even more insane than the other person, so we should be a little more lenient with them.
00:53:25.560 Honestly, realistically, like, I believe every single person who has committed a murder, whether it was for good intentions or bad intentions, just as a Christian, I do believe that there are consequences to our actions.
00:53:37.460 And I wholeheartedly believe she's guilty.
00:53:39.280 I don't even understand why the whole nation is going crazy over this particular subject because there's three children.
00:53:47.320 Everybody's paying attention to her.
00:53:48.920 Nobody's paying attention to the children that died, that don't get a future.
00:53:52.280 And, like, when I heard about this, like, my heart broke.
00:53:55.360 You know, like, these kids, they don't have a future.
00:53:57.600 They don't get to grow up and go to college and do what they dream of doing.
00:54:01.860 I mean, all of us, we have a career.
00:54:03.720 We're doing something in our lives.
00:54:05.480 And everybody's just so focused on her.
00:54:07.440 I mean she's admitted it and even if she I don't even know the insanity part it just doesn't
00:54:14.080 I'm not I'm not buying it it's it's not about insanity everybody has again a level of instability
00:54:20.280 when they murder somebody and she whole like I believe that she deserves to go to prison and if
00:54:27.680 they need to treat her for her instability mentally in prison then they'll do that but like I I just
00:54:34.240 don't see any other option in my opinion i think that's that should be the solid answer so guilty
00:54:40.060 yes absolutely your thoughts my heart really breaks for the children that lost their lives
00:54:45.960 but honestly i haven't been paying attention to this case and so i i just can't i can't say
00:54:53.640 anything about it it's not my place okay um might i see if i can give you some details and
00:55:02.000 And you can give a very guess on what you think.
00:55:07.740 So she admitted to doing it.
00:55:13.160 Her defense, who has a legal duty to defend her to the best of their ability, is not attempting to question whether or not she did it.
00:55:27.840 the defense stipulates
00:55:30.100 to her having killed the children
00:55:31.820 the question for you
00:55:34.140 is
00:55:34.540 even though knowing you
00:55:37.320 you're not fully informed about all the details
00:55:40.360 she claims
00:55:44.060 she had postpartum psychosis
00:55:45.940 and mental health issues
00:55:47.740 and unaliving ideation
00:55:50.320 do you think
00:55:53.920 say you were on the jury
00:55:55.020 knowing that she
00:55:57.760 did in fact kill her kids do you think you would find her guilty or would you find her not guilty
00:56:03.100 by reason of insanity if the evidence is there then justice should be served and that person
00:56:16.500 should pay the time even if they're going through something there should still be a punishment for
00:56:23.200 that okay all right um back to you can i disagree or can i ask a question um are you pro-life too
00:56:31.420 because if you're pro-life i'm assuming you are because you're christian how can you possibly
00:56:36.360 leave a door open to support her how can you be pro-life and know someone killed their children
00:56:40.120 i'm not did you not hear i don't know what's going on in this case so when he said there's
00:56:47.620 evidence and well there's three dead children yeah i'm not trying to say i support her you
00:56:54.700 think i support her i feel like i'm saying if she did it and there was about abortion your
00:56:59.420 answer would be definite and i felt like it was weird that what's your what's your abortion
00:57:03.660 position you want me to answer that yeah i think life is valuable and i think if somebody is put
00:57:11.780 in a place where they have to decide to take a life or keep it, that's a really hard decision
00:57:18.340 to be in. And I feel deeply for the person who has to go through that. Wow. That is a wonderful
00:57:25.320 politician's answer and a vague answer. Are you pro-life or pro-choice? Pro-life. Okay. But you
00:57:32.420 would not pass laws to prevent other women, say another woman who's not you wanted to get an
00:57:38.620 abortion, you would not pass laws preventing her from doing so. I don't really want that kind of
00:57:46.600 power. I know that might sound silly. I mean, I'm pro-life and I think I'm grateful that we have the
00:57:57.020 opportunity to choose. So you're pro-choice? That's the thing. I don't really like being put
00:58:03.820 on the spot for that question as a christian you can't make a a declaration as to your position
00:58:10.760 i believe in life and i believe that it is valuable and sacred and special and i would
00:58:18.140 hope nobody has to come to that decision but i'm grateful that we live in a world where people
00:58:23.580 aren't forcing us to make decisions hopefully we make the wise decision can i add something to that
00:58:29.360 But I'm not the best for this kind of question.
00:58:32.700 I'm still learning.
00:58:33.720 Okay.
00:58:34.840 Yeah, you can add to that, and I'm sure you want to in the corner.
00:58:38.160 You probably want to respond, but let's have you go first.
00:58:40.480 Yeah, sure.
00:58:40.760 I mean, I've been a believer for about three and a half years now, and just like my position on abortion has completely changed after understanding the value of every life from the moment of conception.
00:58:52.640 I mean, biblically speaking, just because you're a Christian, it says in the Bible that, you know, God intricately formed us in our mother's womb.
00:59:01.160 That means even when our DNA was being created and crafted, he had intentionality behind it.
00:59:07.320 So for me, it hurts me.
00:59:09.560 And, you know, obviously we have different opinions, but just as a Christian and hearing anybody, whether they're a Christian or not, hearing when somebody says, oh, they're just a clump of cells.
00:59:17.920 But there's been so much research of people talking about how, you know, when a father speaks to the child in the womb and, you know, they're and they come out with better understanding of who their father is.
00:59:30.700 I mean, that's a whole nother topic. But just in regard to being a Christian, I believe every Christian should be completely against abortion. 0.58
00:59:40.200 They should be pro-life. And just because there is an option right now, that doesn't mean that it should be an option.
00:59:47.920 because of God's intentionality for who we are as people. We're made in his image. We should be
00:59:54.120 solely against abortion, despite if somebody wants to make the choice or not. Obviously, 0.79
00:59:59.160 everybody likes to add there and chime in with medical procedures and stuff like that.
01:00:05.520 I truly am still against it. If I was pregnant and I was facing death and I had a child,
01:00:12.520 if that meant that my child might live and I will die I would rather die and have my child survive
01:00:18.080 and I would do anything I can to do that obviously I don't have any children to say that but
01:00:22.880 that's just like my encouragement to you just as a Christian just think about the intentionality
01:00:27.040 God did in every single woman who has been pregnant I do agree with what you're saying and
01:00:33.460 I'm for me personally I am pro-life and I would never take the life of my own child and I agree 0.96
01:00:40.300 with that. I think for the people who are non-believers, they don't recognize how precious 1.00
01:00:46.300 life is. And I might have misspoken. I wasn't prepared to give that kind of answer. But I do
01:00:51.500 believe that God believes in how life is sacred. And what is it in? Is it Psalm 103?
01:00:59.240 I can't quote the exact scripture, but...
01:01:01.100 I might be wrong on that. But life is valuable and that does matter.
01:01:04.980 You do realize that there are secular arguments for pro-life.
01:01:10.500 There's not just a calling on anti-abortion purely from a religious lens.
01:01:16.700 Absolutely.
01:01:17.180 So this idea that this is, oh, well, they're non-believers.
01:01:22.280 Therefore, even as Christians, we're going to hand wave away their pro-abortion, pro-choice position.
01:01:32.580 it's really an untenable position as a christian even um but i i don't want to dive too much into
01:01:39.160 in like an abortion debate but really quick just because it came up i want to quickly go around
01:01:43.900 the table and just like if you can give a quick answer pro-choice pro-life pro-choice okay pro-choice
01:01:51.320 pro-choice pro-life pro-choice pro-choice pro-choice i think it's more complicated but i'd have to go
01:01:58.020 pro-life if i had to make a choice for sure okay now i guess going back um you were asking her
01:02:04.540 uh about you know she's being she's a christian uh sanctity of life lindsey clancy murked her
01:02:14.220 three children i think that's i'm sorry there's so many you in the corner there um so do you have
01:02:19.740 further follow-up on that i was raised catholic and i lost my faith and i'm rebuilding it so when
01:02:25.600 i hear inconsistencies like that it kind of triggers me a little bit so i apologize if i
01:02:30.160 was a little rough on you but when somebody's rebuilding their faith hearing those two things
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01:03:06.420 And I want to hear things that people that are convicted
01:03:09.060 when they're on that side
01:03:10.200 because it makes me more confident in my choices.
01:03:12.800 So when it seemed like you were wavering,
01:03:14.420 I'm just like, I just don't think that,
01:03:16.960 like if she were found not guilty,
01:03:18.560 I think abortion should be legal. 1.00
01:03:19.800 Like I don't think we can have both. 1.00
01:03:21.200 And that's something I kind of thought about in my head,
01:03:22.960 whether I'm not sure if it quite makes sense so I was kind of a little like I didn't like to hear
01:03:27.940 like you sounding unsure yeah I'm sorry I'm just confused though not like I'd love to just rewind
01:03:38.280 because I thought we were asking questions about did I think she was guilty you gave me some facts
01:03:44.380 and based off what you were telling me the only info that I really know about this case
01:03:48.680 you were saying if she's guilty then she should be guilty wasn't that what i was answering i felt
01:03:55.320 like you were saying you were not giving an answer i felt like you were because i don't know i don't
01:03:59.580 want to be giving an answer on something i don't know i wasn't aware that you not giving an answer
01:04:03.300 was you not being knowledgeable i thought you weren't giving an answer because you're on a
01:04:06.600 public platform and you didn't want to make a decision and you're also on no i just don't i'm
01:04:11.000 just not into this case sorry for interrupting i'm just not into this case um unintentionally
01:04:16.960 and I just don't have answers for it.
01:04:19.600 Well, you can say that, but you also felt uncomfortable
01:04:22.300 when he asked you to say if you're a pro-life or pro-choice.
01:04:24.440 You also gave a political answer, so I don't believe you.
01:04:27.220 Maybe you're telling the truth, but I don't believe it
01:04:29.360 because you literally did it right afterwards.
01:04:31.720 She clearly stated as soon as she started that she didn't have much information.
01:04:35.480 But at the same time, people are coming for me
01:04:37.440 because I'm getting my information on social media,
01:04:39.360 and I think she made a perfect stance just saying,
01:04:41.500 I don't have the information, and that's the stance I probably should have said.
01:04:43.700 But I didn't come for you. Brian did.
01:04:45.240 so i'm not taking that out on you but i don't think you should say i don't think you should
01:04:50.120 say because your question you need to find this person guilty she doesn't have the evidence she
01:04:54.680 said i said how can you reconcile those two ideas so i didn't say she had to i said to me it doesn't
01:04:59.880 make sense for you to hold both of those ideas and if you are i need you to have all this look
01:05:04.520 let me let me cut through this a little differently then so um instead of like you know analyzing the
01:05:12.200 actual criminal case the legal case why don't i frame it a bit differently um given that the
01:05:20.380 defense in this criminal trial does stipulate to the fact that she killed it there's overwhelming 0.57
01:05:25.940 excuse me that she killed her children there is indeed overwhelming evidence that this woman 0.99
01:05:32.140 murdered her kids now there's contention as to was she fucking insane when she did it or was she was 0.99
01:05:39.580 it premeditated? I think there's a bunch of evidence pointing to premeditation towards 0.99
01:05:45.120 pointing to intentionality. That aside, one of the big issues we have here, sort of setting the
01:05:53.800 actual details of the case aside, is you have millions of women in this country who, now some 0.99
01:06:02.800 of them are taking the mental health angle where they're like, yeah, she did that shit, but hey, 1.00
01:06:08.840 if you're hormonal i guess you get a pass for murdering your three kids 1.00
01:06:12.920 the other angle though which is also encompasses millions upon millions of women in this country 0.99
01:06:20.020 is they're showing up to the courthouse wearing pink supporting her saying they love her doing 0.90
01:06:26.020 little retarded heart gestures like this and they are trying to basically they're what i would call 0.97
01:06:33.100 kinslayer apologists or baby killer apologists you know like rape apologists uh they're baby 0.98
01:06:38.820 killer apologists so they're doing apologetics for lindsey clancy who there's overwhelming 0.56
01:06:45.360 evidence for that she murdered her three children they're slandering patrick clancy who is a victim 1.00
01:06:50.980 in this his three children were killed he came back his wife's all fucked up wife gone kids gone 1.00
01:06:58.660 Patrick Clancy here is a victim 1.00
01:07:00.340 And you have millions of women online
01:07:02.420 Who are slandering him
01:07:03.640 Claiming he's actually the one who killed the kids
01:07:05.820 By the way, I hope that Patrick Clancy
01:07:08.500 And I think he's indicated as much
01:07:10.540 This guy needs to hire
01:07:12.680 An entire law firm 0.97
01:07:15.080 And he needs to go scorched earth 0.99
01:07:17.320 I don't care if these fucking 1.00
01:07:18.740 TikTok feminist retards 1.00
01:07:20.880 Have a hundred followers 1.00
01:07:23.180 Sue them all 0.97
01:07:24.920 Sue them all, take everything 0.91
01:07:26.900 bankrupt them all any woman who claims that he committed the murders any woman who's suggesting
01:07:33.480 that he was you know he's involved and it wasn't lindsey didn't do anything any any woman who is 0.98
01:07:39.580 slandering patrick clancy in any way he needs to go scorched earth fucking sue all these people 0.95
01:07:46.480 and hopefully bankrupt them all the big issue is is you have millions of women who are refusing to 0.98
01:07:54.400 even approach this through a reasonable reasoned rational lens a logical lens and they'd oh his
01:08:02.120 zodiac the zodiac is weird and all this sort of like conjecture that isn't evidence at all it's
01:08:08.780 just like oh he went on a trip uh 21 days or something after what happened it's like that
01:08:14.880 wouldn't objectionable though you may find that to be which i don't think there's anything wrong
01:08:20.120 with it you have women who are like well okay he went he went on a trip to costa rica 21 days after
01:08:25.660 this happened he must have killed his kids because he went on a trip it's like that doesn't follow
01:08:30.300 just because you think that there are things that are weird doesn't mean he committed a crime or
01:08:35.480 anything like that um these women i personally think all the lindsey clancy supporters they 0.80
01:08:41.700 should lose their right to vote they should probably be if they have children honestly 1.00
01:08:45.660 hot take their children should be taken away that's fucking crazy you might say that's crazy 0.99
01:08:51.280 i think hide this tiffany i think if you're a lindsey clancy supporter and you have children 1.00
01:08:57.500 and especially these lindsey clancy supporters who make videos like same lindsey while holding
01:09:02.680 their kids you need your you need your children taken taken away you need to lose your right to 0.93
01:09:08.420 vote you should never be able to serve on a jury if you can prove that you're a lindsey clancy
01:09:12.140 supporter um the lindsey clancy supporters who are slandering patrick need to be uh who are
01:09:18.820 defaming him need to be sued into oblivion through you know if they're going to pursue 0.99
01:09:24.120 civil defamation cases um what else and uh i don't know they're all fucking batshit insane 0.97
01:09:30.840 lindsey clancy support should lose their right to vote i'm trying to think if there's anything else 0.72
01:09:34.660 uh the big thing is though is you have again millions of women who are basically saying
01:09:39.880 lindsey clancy is not just not guilty by reason of insanity which i still take issue with but
01:09:45.540 she's just innocent she's innocent she's not guilty and then well that's one layer and then
01:09:51.320 the other layer is the people like well she did it but like we're gonna give her a pass because 0.74
01:09:56.880 she had postpartum psychosis that's ridiculous absolutely ridiculous um pretty much any defense 0.97
01:10:05.160 of Lindsay Clancy is disgusting. If it was a man under the exact same circumstances and he had 0.98
01:10:10.520 PTSD, say he went to Iraq or he, you know, he has, um, post-traumatic stress disorder from combat 0.99
01:10:16.460 and he fucking murked his entire family. There's not a jury in the world who's going to be like, 0.99
01:10:21.940 you know what? He had PTSD. We're not going to fight. You know what? Not guilty by reason of
01:10:28.460 insanity. In fact, there's many other cases, uh, where there was a guy who had schizophrenic
01:10:33.820 psychosis, murked his five kids. The jury deliberated for two hours. Guilty. Death sentence.
01:10:42.460 Two hours jury deliberation. Massive history of schizophrenic psychosis. So not like postpartum 0.89
01:10:50.800 psychosis is often temporary. Evidence of long-term schizophrenia. Two-hour jury deliberation
01:10:57.660 because it was a man um the lindsey clancy jury ended in a mistrial they deliberated for 0.94
01:11:06.000 40 hours was it so yeah if it was a man i don't know like you know what can men just start raping 0.94
01:11:12.920 women and then oh blame it on my testosterone oh i sorry psychosis testosterone induced psychosis 1.00
01:11:21.580 i was i wasn't of right state of mind find me not guilty it's fucking ridiculous absolutely 0.99
01:11:28.340 ridiculous i guarantee you the exact same circumstances but it was a man you just 0.98
01:11:34.520 swap lindsey clancy with a man no but no men would be supporting this dude no women would 0.97
01:11:41.120 be supporting this dude it's completely ridiculous and and uh it's just because i don't know it's the 0.99
01:11:48.180 sisterhood it's the what who said that before uh a girl's girl if it was black women crazy if it 0.99
01:11:54.940 was a black woman though i'm sorry to interrupt but if it was a black woman i fear i feared i 0.94
01:11:59.060 actually feel scary saying this but do you think it would be i think it would be the exact same 0.97
01:12:03.260 it would it would be i honestly think if it was a black woman it would be worse supported her i 0.84
01:12:08.500 don't believe that you underestimate i don't know you underestimate white liberals first off oh you
01:12:13.560 think the white liberals would have supported the black woman do you think i don't know i'm literally
01:12:18.860 yes i absolutely do and i think the majority of lindsey clancy's supporters are primarily um
01:12:25.640 liberal women uh white liberal women so um yeah i think it would actually there would be you would
01:12:32.420 see more support potentially if it was a black woman i i do believe but i don't really that's
01:12:38.620 that's like very um i'm not gonna get bogged down in like race politics on this what we do have is
01:12:44.500 a woman who murdered her teacher her three children and uh yeah i just think it's crazy
01:12:49.340 really quick we're i'll come back to you but i'm gonna come back to you really quick to finish off
01:12:54.200 the abortion conversation so just so i have a clear understanding uh sabresia sabrasia sabrasia
01:13:01.700 sabrasia yeah sabrasia can i call you s dog sure sab sab sab sab sab okay savvy um so you would
01:13:12.500 never get an abortion is that correct correct okay however uh you you do not feel it is your position
01:13:19.640 to have an opinion say on other women is that a fair yeah i think so i i believe god has a
01:13:28.540 a big value on life and that's what i'm giving my life to and i hope other people come to see that
01:13:36.380 but i think the moment we start trying to control other people's actions things can get
01:13:42.240 risky how's that hold on just one sec based underscore justin donated 100 1.00
01:13:49.140 lindsey deserves to swing from a tree no more no less ladies choose sides wisely 0.93
01:13:57.080 the more you defend a serial killer because of her feels and yours well bye bye 19th amd 1.00
01:14:04.580 thx for playing yeah she should get the death penalty um i you know i'm i'm typically against 0.99
01:14:12.580 the death penalty like from a principled position but i mean you kill your kids that's 0.98
01:14:18.300 it's hard to argue against the death penalty in this case but uh in any case life in prison 0.99
01:14:23.900 at bare minimum life in prison i i personally think the insanity defense is is ridiculous
01:14:30.400 i don't think because this is what happened with the lindsey clancy case and i posted this on x
01:14:36.560 i think we should do away with insanity defense um even if there may be true genuine insanity
01:14:46.060 because now it places this massive burden on the prosecution and also this the jury it
01:14:53.200 It's a referendum on the mental state of the person, which very much muddies the water and complicates a criminal proceeding.
01:15:03.140 I don't think juries should be tasked with understanding the mental state of the person as it relates to a crime they've committed.
01:15:14.700 I think the purpose of a jury should be, did they do the crime and did they meet the criminal elements of the crime?
01:15:23.200 Now, I think the insanity component can come in during sentencing.
01:15:28.700 So the jury just says, did she do it?
01:15:30.920 Yes or no.
01:15:31.960 Is she guilty of doing the thing?
01:15:34.000 Not, well, let's argue about, you know, the state of mind.
01:15:40.100 I think a judge or like a expert in, a psychological expert or something, in sentencing perhaps
01:15:50.180 can make a determination should they face prison confinement or should they face confinement in a
01:15:58.600 mental institution, a psychiatric confinement. And then, but if they are cool with, once they
01:16:07.100 become sane again, I suppose, then they can just go to prison. I don't think it should be the jury's
01:16:12.660 job to make some determination. So that on its own is stupid. But okay, really quick. Thank you 1.00
01:16:19.320 for that tts there appreciate it again sabby going back to this though um you you said something i i 0.86
01:16:26.280 was asking you um oh what was it shit i think i was asking you how so you you don't think that 0.68
01:16:35.180 you should be controlling other people's lives or something like that can you elaborate yeah i think 0.98
01:16:41.460 i'm so grateful for the people who stand outside of um planned parenthood and are just reaching out
01:16:49.120 to all the women in need letting them know that there's another opportunity for them like we'll
01:16:53.460 help you and what god has to say is so valuable and important and i wouldn't want anyone to get
01:16:59.120 an abortion but i think the moment that the government has control over what we do with
01:17:05.420 our bodies just like with the vaccines um you know what else can they be willing to do can i say
01:17:12.620 something to that sure um again just because you're a christian i'm gonna um speak on biblical
01:17:17.380 terms, God has appointed people in the government. God has encouraged us to be involved in politics
01:17:25.540 because, yeah, so because of that, I do wholeheartedly believe that we do have to say
01:17:33.180 something. As Christians, we can't just take a step back because we're afraid we're going to
01:17:37.080 offend somebody. I mean, realistically speaking, truth is offensive. I mean, it offended me many
01:17:42.160 times, but God, by his amazing grace, delivered me from a lot of the things that I thought was
01:17:46.220 true which were actually false um so in regard to abortion um and feeling like you shouldn't
01:17:52.640 take a step forward and into that because some people are not christian um politics exists for
01:17:58.920 a reason there's politics in every kind of society um even in tribes there's some form of political
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01:18:36.040 The way you approach things.
01:18:39.160 And because of that, yeah, we do have to take that, like,
01:18:41.920 step forward and actually say abortion what's your name again my name is rizal rizal yeah you
01:18:47.940 know what thank you that was really good and that's very true and i i changed my mind i agree
01:18:54.080 with you and i that's that's so true it i think it's in romans um where it talks about paul was
01:19:01.040 saying that he has appointed people in government for such a time like this and you know give to
01:19:06.580 caesar what is caesar and blah blah blah and i agree i think that's a very good point and thank
01:19:11.520 you for opening my mind on that i'm still growing in my faith and i'm still learning and this isn't
01:19:16.160 my area of specialty to be able to talk and influence other believers in what to do but
01:19:21.680 that's really good and thank you yeah all right um okay back to the lindsey clancy stuff then so
01:19:29.440 uh you had also said that most women would not uh you said most women would not uh
01:19:37.300 correct uh yes from what i've seen on social media okay so it's logically impossible for
01:19:44.720 a woman to ever unalive herself like this it's less likely less likely so still possible
01:19:51.140 obviously still possible but we have to take everything into right but so um
01:19:56.120 i would argue vast majority of men would never essay a woman some men still essay women
01:20:04.240 so most women are not going to slice their throat is it possible that some women will slice their 0.94
01:20:10.460 throat in a unalive attempt that's a very different one it's highly more likely that
01:20:17.040 men are essaying than versus women statistically i don't i wouldn't i'm not drawing a comparison
01:20:22.520 for that reason but you just i'm i'm testing out your logic here your logic is as follows
01:20:28.280 you think when women on the live themselves which i i doubt you even have the data on
01:20:35.540 that they're less likely to do it like this but that doesn't mean it's impossible so my
01:20:42.580 argument here is simply pointing out your flawed logic you're basically saying she's innocent
01:20:50.180 because it's in fact it was patrick clancy who sliced her throat ridiculous claim um i actually
01:20:57.680 think your claim is more ridiculous so i think that it's far um how do i frame this
01:21:04.960 i'll just say this just because you think it's an unlikely way for a woman to do something 0.81
01:21:12.300 first off people who unalive themselves that's also a really small percentage of people too 1.00
01:21:17.560 um so it just i don't see how that follows that because most women who do unalive themselves or
01:21:27.180 attempt to unalive themselves don't do so by that that would indicate that in fact it was Patrick
01:21:34.820 Clancy who did that to her how do you how does it follow from that I'm just saying it's something
01:21:40.560 I have to take into account because it's statistically less likely to happen are you
01:21:45.380 saying reasonable doubt now you're not saying that you think that you're just saying it gives
01:21:49.160 you reasonable doubt your reasons are giving you doubt you're not saying that because of those
01:21:53.840 reasons you actually think she's innocent, you're saying? Well, obviously, I'm not following along
01:21:57.580 exactly, but this is just something I would take into account just based on what I've researched.
01:22:01.660 Yeah, and as somebody who has suffered with many mental diagnoses by God's amazing grace,
01:22:09.400 I no longer have depression, anxiety, or those types of thoughts, and I have been in and out
01:22:14.920 of hospitals, in and out of psychiatric wards because of those thoughts that have crossed my
01:22:19.640 mind. And I'll tell you this, it doesn't matter when somebody is feeling that way. They just want
01:22:27.560 to take themselves out. It doesn't matter if there's a higher chance they're going to, you
01:22:30.700 know, their throat or if they're going to get a rope and do something with that. If somebody wants
01:22:36.160 to take themselves out, they're going to figure out how they can do it with what they have accessible
01:22:41.400 to them. So I think it's a hard argument to say it's less likely for a woman to do something like 1.00
01:22:48.460 that well just like brian said it's less likely for a person to actually attempt something like
01:22:54.000 that um so i don't think that's a reasonable argument um in this particular i guess the
01:22:59.580 argument is just because on the other side they're just saying like the husband's involvement not
01:23:03.820 necessarily like that women don't do that just more of like what if the husband had this some
01:23:09.280 type of involvement yeah i mean i don't agree that the husband has any involvement i think
01:23:14.100 that's where i guess we differ right in opinion so um okay well i i guess so you think though
01:23:23.680 that there's a direct line between women are less likely or at least they're there's like far more
01:23:32.280 likely ways that they're going to on the live themselves than by slitting their throats how
01:23:38.220 does it follow though that that establishes the guilt of Patrick Clancy it was kind of what I was
01:23:45.060 just saying on the other side of things that people potentially looking into the husband's
01:23:48.900 involvement of that but how would something being statistically less likely doesn't it doesn't
01:23:59.180 follow that she didn't do it and it doesn't follow that Patrick Clancy did it
01:24:05.980 yeah i think just people are taking into account if that's less likely to happen
01:24:11.280 and men are more likely to have some involvement in some type of um criminal act then they're
01:24:17.600 looking at that side of things okay this is just i guess one clarifying clarifying question
01:24:23.540 you think patrick clancy did it i like i said i didn't watch the full trial to make that decision
01:24:30.440 i'm just saying what i've seen from social media and the side i would right okay yes yes yes what
01:24:35.600 you're seeing from social media and tiktok do you think patrick clancy did it there could be some
01:24:40.920 potential involvement with medication and the weapon used wait okay weapon used and medication
01:24:48.000 so i'll come back to those but what do you mean hold on before we get to that we need to really 1.00
01:24:58.720 clamp down on when women on the live themselves or attempt on the live themselves they're less
01:25:05.020 likely to do it like that again i'm asking you how would that be evidence that patrick clancy
01:25:14.980 is the one or potentially the one or lindsey clancy didn't do it or potentially didn't do it
01:25:21.640 because of that i'm not saying it's direct evidence i'm saying it's a thought process
01:25:26.540 that the jurors are potentially having it's a thought process that the jurors are potentially
01:25:31.560 having i mean it's a mistrial so they're not coming they didn't come to a decision so obviously
01:25:37.980 they're thinking about x y and z well no no okay the mistrial was as follows as to our knowledge
01:25:46.020 11 of the jurors wanted not guilty by reason of insanity right in order to stipulate to a not
01:25:53.140 guilty by reason oh my god not guilty by reason of insanity is i did the crime but i should not
01:26:01.960 go to prison because i was insane i killed them but i shouldn't go to prison because i'm insane 0.52
01:26:07.600 not i didn't do it it's i did it but i shouldn't go to prison i should go to psychiatric confinement
01:26:15.800 but there's also potentially jurors that have an extremist view on like on the jury and say
01:26:21.480 well, I full heartedly probably do believe her. And I actually think that there's no evidence of
01:26:27.000 that. It was from what we, what we know, it was a not guilty by reason of insanity from 11 of the
01:26:33.800 jurors, which I find problematic. There was one juror who wanted a guilty verdict, but it's not,
01:26:40.580 they weren't voting not guilty point blank period, as in she didn't do it. It was not guilty by
01:26:45.360 reason of insanity. She did it, but we're not going to hold her. Uh, we're not going to send
01:26:50.600 her to prison we're gonna send her to psychiatric confinement kevin 89 donated 99 thank you for the
01:26:57.780 tts go ahead yeah i mean that's purely my stats on things okay but so so just to be clear it's
01:27:07.400 your position you think patrick did it i never said that because i haven't fully watched the
01:27:12.280 trial i'm just but the trial was not wait wait the trial was not hold on the trial was primarily
01:27:18.800 focused on was she is she or is she not uh or at the time of the crime uh insane and i get that
01:27:28.520 point of view but you're lacking to see that jurors could have an extremist point of view
01:27:32.400 they're therefore succeeding and saying okay not guilty because of a mental health crisis
01:27:37.360 instead of saying oh i actually believe the husband had some type of involvement and of course
01:27:42.100 all this information can come back later there have been instances for example the whole netflix
01:27:47.780 thing going on right now with the preacher's wife. There have been instances of something
01:27:51.080 happen and the husband potentially being involved and looking at how somebody would come to a mental
01:27:56.240 health crisis based on how they were led to that. So you're talking about an entirely different case
01:28:01.560 that has zero bearing on the facts of this case. Yeah, but I'm comparing the two of why somebody
01:28:08.840 could have that. Because an injustice, say there's like a false conviction in this case here, that
01:28:15.180 must mean that there's a false conviction in this case here i'm not how does that follow i'm saying
01:28:20.680 people could have that potential viewpoint because of it so are we just going to attribute you know
01:28:27.920 what uh every single criminal proceeding something's fishy going on in every single
01:28:34.800 criminal proceeding you have to look at all sides of things you have to okay what does that mean
01:28:41.800 okay like i said there could be an extremist point of view and later down the line something
01:28:46.460 could happen to where they have a different trial saying there's some type of involvement from the
01:28:50.560 husband the forensics experts say she did it the district attorney says she did it the defense
01:28:59.200 attorney says she did it lindsey clancy says she did it believe all women won't believe lindsey
01:29:05.740 clancy believe women but okay even lindsey clancy admits to having done it she stipulated
01:29:11.500 in it that she did it political underscore overtones donated 100 clancy's lawyer had a
01:29:17.940 legal obligation to provide the best legal defense possible had there been any doubt she was not the
01:29:23.440 one physically committing the crimes her lawyer would have used that defense yeah thank you man
01:29:30.180 appreciate it um all the police officers who reported to the scene the the investigators
01:29:37.840 everyone says she did it how is it that tiktok ssri wine moms seem to be the the these expert
01:29:47.480 investigators saying that you know what it wasn't lindsey it was patrick um so okay what i i again
01:29:56.280 i i'm still haven't gotten an answer on there is no direct answer because i can't give it because
01:30:02.300 i haven't watched a trial specifically so i can't say this is what i watched i watched it
01:30:06.780 every single detail and this is the point of view i can give what level of evidence would be required
01:30:11.760 to convince you that lindsey lindsey most likely did it beyond a reasonable doubt did it or just
01:30:18.780 like a hundred percent sure she did it um whatever evidence is at hand let me ask you a question if 0.98
01:30:26.080 a man raped like brutally fucking raped a woman why are we going to hold on words and essays because 0.98
01:30:32.100 Because I think it's going to illustrate a point. 1.00
01:30:34.360 A man admits to brutally raping a woman.
01:30:37.740 Did you read my Instagram bio? 0.71
01:30:41.780 How does this?
01:30:42.780 Oh, my God, bro.
01:30:43.620 Because I feel like you're targeting that.
01:30:45.440 I'm not targeting that.
01:30:46.740 I'm not targeting that.
01:30:48.520 What I've been through, and that's why you're using that.
01:30:49.860 I don't know what you've been through.
01:30:51.040 But anyways.
01:30:52.380 But anyways.
01:30:53.180 It's on my bio, so I'm pretty sure you're going to get to it.
01:30:54.600 Well, okay. 0.99
01:30:54.920 If we're going to pearl clutch, three fucking children are dead, and you want to play TikTok investigator. 0.99
01:30:59.740 We did that three children are dead, but either way we have to make a decision. 1.00
01:31:03.200 And you want to blame the victim father. 0.99
01:31:04.120 You want to blame the victim father because you heard some bullshit on TikTok. 0.99
01:31:08.080 So we're not going to pearl clutch. 0.99
01:31:09.620 Plenty of women, plenty of everyone, men and women, have lost children.
01:31:15.000 So please don't pearl clutch about, well, I've been the specific victim of this crime.
01:31:18.540 Here you are on a podcast denying in front of the world that Lindsay Clancy, what level of evidence is required? 1.00
01:31:25.740 Do you need a, should I have been there with my phone filming this retarded bit, evil bitch, killing her fucking kids? 1.00
01:31:32.460 Is that the level of, oh no, you know what, that was, he manipulated, it was, he AI'd that. 1.00
01:31:38.220 What level of evidence is satisfactory for these baby killer apologists?
01:31:44.240 I need to be there and record her killing the kids?
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01:32:05.600 Oh, boy.
01:32:06.780 Thank you, CS, for that.
01:32:09.240 Appreciate it.
01:32:10.580 All right, I don't even know where I was going with the...
01:32:13.100 Oh, yes.
01:32:13.740 Okay, so can I ask you a question? 0.84
01:32:16.540 So, okay, a man rapes a woman, and he admits to it.
01:32:23.180 Is that not satisfactory level of, like, evidence for you to convict him?
01:32:29.980 Okay, we're just running in circles.
01:32:31.820 Can you answer the question?
01:32:32.860 We're running in circles.
01:32:33.640 Can you answer the question?
01:32:34.920 I'm not going to do the whole test of my logic.
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01:33:03.300 O'Henry, O'Henry.
01:33:07.640 That's the purpose of having a...
01:33:09.560 Okay, I'm just...
01:33:11.820 You're saying...
01:33:12.420 Like, there's overwhelming evidence here.
01:33:14.140 She stipulated to it in a criminal proceeding
01:33:17.700 That she did in fact kill her three children
01:33:20.380 Bro, it's crazy
01:33:24.200 It's interesting
01:33:26.360 Can I say something?
01:33:28.020 Do you think it would be more beneficial to society 0.99
01:33:34.060 For her to spend time in jail
01:33:36.120 Or a psychiatric facility for a long time?
01:33:39.820 Because that's what we're really
01:33:40.700 You're asking me?
01:33:41.700 I mean, to the collective group, because it's not what we're trying to decide.
01:33:49.100 Well, not totally.
01:33:50.420 Oh, okay. 0.98
01:33:51.380 If she should go to jail or a psychiatrist. 0.99
01:33:53.560 She should go to prison. 1.00
01:33:55.160 And if, like, part of that requires if she's, like, actually fucking insane or whatever, she can get psychiatric treatment, but this woman needs to be in prison for her entire life. 1.00
01:34:04.280 She thinks that Lindsay Clancy is not guilty, so she should just be let free, essentially.
01:34:10.520 I would like you to engage with the question as asked, though.
01:34:14.140 Can we do, like, a different question?
01:34:16.500 But I don't understand.
01:34:17.500 Why can't you just engage?
01:34:18.880 Because I know that you've seen my Instagram bio.
01:34:21.200 Wait, wait.
01:34:22.340 But, okay, I'm not really familiar with what you're talking about.
01:34:25.420 But can I ask you a question?
01:34:27.800 What do you think is worse, one individual incident of rape or murdering three children?
01:34:33.740 What is worse?
01:34:34.560 Equally. 1.00
01:34:36.500 Holy fuck, bro. 1.00
01:34:38.060 Actually cooked. 1.00
01:34:39.020 oh my god you think one rape is as bad as three children being killed they are both 0.98
01:34:46.020 terrible things whoa stop stop stop yes both do you actually think i'm arguing that rape is good 1.00
01:34:53.220 there is do you are you really bro holy fuck when somebody's rape is bad let rape is really 1.00
01:34:59.760 fucking terrible if you rape somebody i personally think the punishments should be worse i wouldn't 1.00
01:35:06.280 be even opposed to the death sentence in some of these cases that's not what we're arguing here 1.00
01:35:11.900 is one incidence of rape worse than three children being killed i'm still saying equally if one
01:35:19.720 person that's actually insane i need to ask the other women at the table now let me preface this 0.99
01:35:24.780 rape is a terrible fucking crime absolutely terrible these people and by the way um well 1.00
01:35:32.680 I suppose somewhat similar to like crimes against children. 1.00
01:35:38.040 If you're a man and you do this crime,
01:35:40.080 you will be targeted in prison by other criminal men.
01:35:44.120 Like this is one of the worst, 0.97
01:35:45.140 like if you go into prison and you're a grapist 0.86
01:35:48.460 or you like did something to a child or hurt a child,
01:35:53.580 you will be targeted by the other criminals,
01:35:55.740 the thieves, the murderers. 1.00
01:35:56.840 Like they'll be like, you're scum of scum. 1.00
01:36:02.680 But let's be fair here. 1.00
01:36:04.620 Look, terrible crime, but I think some things are worse than others.
01:36:07.620 I think we can say that.
01:36:10.000 One rape, three children dead.
01:36:12.580 Which is worse? 0.68
01:36:14.200 The three children dead.
01:36:16.160 Next.
01:36:17.980 Next.
01:36:20.040 I heard you.
01:36:22.240 The three children dead.
01:36:25.060 Okay, you're, okay, next.
01:36:26.420 I would say even if you were to say rape and murder were equally bad, there's three to one.
01:36:32.680 that's fair position um three children dead and just for the record i was a victim of childhood
01:36:39.980 rape so three children dead children should be protected yeah three children the same it's the
01:36:47.200 same if it would bring those children back i would prefer to be graped myself okay just 0.99
01:36:54.000 three children dead next the children 0.99
01:36:58.240 10 children dead or one rape which is worse i'm going equal 0.84
01:37:04.040 one rape or the entire world okay you're just testing logic again answer the question it's 0.97
01:37:14.060 going to be the same answer just to be wait wait this is actually retarded hold on so just to be 0.88
01:37:19.740 clear uh are you let me ask you a question are you um where do you land on the palestine-israel 0.87
01:37:27.600 conflict um with neither side okay what's worse like the entire genocide of palestinians or one 1.00
01:37:37.560 rape it's equally bad holy fuck holy fuck what the fuck what the actual oh my god 1.00
01:37:47.440 ask why you would compare that and say that they are equal because i mean i think you're one in 10 1.00
01:37:54.260 of us who or i guess 11 of us who disagree um so what what's your like logical reasoning by
01:38:01.200 why it's okay i mean not not okay but how they can even equate because here's kind of what i've
01:38:10.140 learned growing up when somebody cries in first world country over something that's silly it's
01:38:15.380 just as sad as somebody crying over a third world country that something bad has happened
01:38:19.480 either way sadness is not a great emotion they're from the equal in stance
01:38:26.260 wait wait i'll let you come in in just a sec um i bang my shin and it hurts for 15 seconds 0.73
01:38:35.760 or like you know pakistan gets nuked and like millions of people die what's worse i mean that's
01:38:48.200 very extremist now i'm talking about what's worse that correlate what's worse though 0.70
01:38:52.000 okay obviously i'm deferred you know what nuke them just nuke them i don't want to have a bruise
01:38:59.900 for a couple days go ahead yeah i was just trying to say there is such a thing as scaling
01:39:04.120 something right that has to exist i mean we can bring in a banana for reference or something but
01:39:09.520 you can't that what we're not in a vacuum does that make sense i kind of get what you're saying
01:39:16.660 yeah you have to be able to sign in in the world that we currently exist and you have to be able
01:39:20.880 to sign i'm not a scaling person like if bad things happen i see them as equal that's just
01:39:26.860 how i am i do not believe you at all i i don't know why you're doing this why are you staying
01:39:31.660 Why are you dying on that hill?
01:39:32.680 Come on, believe me.
01:39:33.000 I did not believe you.
01:39:33.620 I went 30 minutes talking to this guy solo about my belief.
01:39:39.180 You believe that three children or 10 children being murdered is equal to one person being killed?
01:39:42.700 Like, you don't.
01:39:43.540 No, you don't.
01:39:44.000 Yes, I do.
01:39:44.740 You do not. 0.97
01:39:45.600 No, because she's a survivor. 0.69
01:39:48.040 And so, like. 0.96
01:39:48.640 Exactly.
01:39:49.220 I knew you saw my Instagram bio, and that's why you were bringing up an R word and an essay versus children.
01:39:55.480 No evidence for the claim.
01:39:56.640 Kevin89 donated $99. 1.00
01:39:58.720 dollars brian this mass female psychosis is not surprising you've seen feminists call babies 1.00
01:40:05.920 parasites and defend abortion up to nine months is the jump to killing kids that big this is late 1.00
01:40:12.480 stage feminism okay what's worse one essay or literally everyone on the face of the earth being 0.97
01:40:22.460 annihilated including the woman who would have been otherwise essayed what's worse i'm saying
01:40:29.800 equal i think she's actually serious i think she's got like a group of friends that are gonna be like
01:40:38.200 yeah girl you told them is that what's gonna happen i just don't what is wrong with you why
01:40:42.780 are you trolling me when i'm having an exact opinion and i'm having a visceral reaction
01:40:47.200 emotional reaction so obviously i believe what i'm saying she thinks where are your tears
01:40:52.780 um right here you can literally hear it in my voice like you are the one who's actually
01:40:59.960 coming and defending brian on his stance that way you look good because he's using an example
01:41:06.440 of something that only men do because he's comparing it to something that a woman did
01:41:10.660 so he's using something that men usually do that that's why he's comparing those two
01:41:14.060 and i literally i don't know if you have like a sister circle that they all like agree with you
01:41:19.200 i don't have a sister circle i actually have a male centered circle fyi you don't act like you
01:41:24.280 know me are they pick me men i think the issue here is that you have a hard time believing that
01:41:30.060 there's any truth in what she's saying and that it's for content reason but i mean realistically
01:41:36.400 speaking i've also been a victim of that myself and by god's amazing grace right god has healed
01:41:41.960 me of that trauma um but to just comment on what you say i don't think you and this is not
01:41:48.340 to bash you or anything but i think there's just like a lack of comprehension um when we're talking
01:41:54.140 about children's deaths and i think because of that you have a hard time seeing the differences
01:41:59.380 but there truly is a difference and that's why when we go to the court system where um you know
01:42:04.520 we have legal defenses arguing what their uh consequence is supposed to be um but that doesn't
01:42:10.860 mean that you didn't go through what you went through and I completely understand and it hurts
01:42:14.340 me to see you break down like this and just like we don't us as women we I mean we should empathize
01:42:21.600 but also just take in account like what's the logical approach here you don't really comprehend
01:42:29.360 why there's a difference because yours were so traumatic and I don't I don't know if I would
01:42:35.200 ever say that um i would agree with you even in my past but are you wrapping up or are you wrapping
01:42:44.420 no i'm just i want to come in on something
01:42:46.880 no you i was giving you room okay oh all right we can test this out super easy 0.62
01:42:54.400 this is going to be fucking brutal but sometimes you have to do it to test the logic 0.77
01:43:00.340 Would you, if you could press a button and three children died to, like, take back what happened to you, would you do it? 0.99
01:43:09.760 Equally. Both.
01:43:11.500 Not equally both?
01:43:13.300 Obviously, I would take both lives back and want the circumstances that happened to me back.
01:43:18.860 I think equally as bad, therefore equally should be saved.
01:43:22.900 That's not really the question.
01:43:24.620 I get that, but that's my answer.
01:43:26.600 If they're equally as bad, both should be equally as saved.
01:43:29.460 But look, I understand bad things happen to people, but to say, like, we're all alive here.
01:43:35.660 Like, death is the ultimate conclusion.
01:43:41.000 Bad things have happened to me.
01:43:42.440 Many bad things have happened to me.
01:43:44.480 I'm sure many bad things have happened to all of you.
01:43:47.120 Perhaps terrible things have happened to all of you.
01:43:49.440 We're all alive, though.
01:43:52.780 Would any of us, being alive, trade, like, if we could trade the bad things that have happened to us,
01:43:58.820 but in so doing
01:44:00.320 just like you can even press a button
01:44:02.840 you don't even have to strangle them or whatever
01:44:04.800 you press a button and three children are dead
01:44:07.100 many bad things have happened to me
01:44:08.800 I would not do that trade
01:44:11.460 I would
01:44:12.760 keep the children alive
01:44:14.560 and all the bad things that happened to me
01:44:16.700 they still happened
01:44:17.800 it's a shocking
01:44:22.560 moral position you take
01:44:24.800 Um, and I mean, I'm almost somewhat surprised the women are somewhat silent here.
01:44:33.740 I'm surprised more women aren't really, I don't know, uh, taking quarrel with what you're
01:44:43.680 saying, which I find interesting.
01:44:47.040 So I just want to say, I'm really sorry.
01:44:49.600 I got these for you.
01:44:50.560 I'm really sorry for what happened to you
01:44:53.720 and I know how hard that can be
01:44:55.740 I'm a survivor of that as well
01:44:57.560 and that can take a really big toll on your heart
01:45:01.460 and the evil in this world
01:45:02.740 can just really crush a person
01:45:04.960 and whereas what happened to you
01:45:07.680 was really wrong and really evil 0.53
01:45:09.360 taking life is
01:45:11.920 that's
01:45:13.420 once you take a life you can't ever get that back
01:45:16.060 there is a possibility for you
01:45:17.760 to be restored and healed
01:45:19.540 and that can be found in Jesus and what was broken can be made new um with these children
01:45:26.180 their their life is gone and we're not here to dismiss what happened to you and I hope
01:45:31.480 um justice is served and I hope that you get the healing you need but these lives were taken
01:45:37.160 and um and that's that's a a different thing it's incomparable um I agree with her yeah
01:45:46.900 how do we ever come to conclusions as to degrees of harm how do we ever come to like like for
01:45:56.840 example i would say um you know uh the murder using a different example the murder of like
01:46:03.780 one person um well i mean here's where we get to the trolley dilemma essentially um but i would say
01:46:11.060 the killing of one person in terms of degree or scope is not as bad as the killing of like 10,000
01:46:21.040 people. So how do we come to determinations, even about things that are harmful to people,
01:46:29.020 even things that are traumatic to people? How can we still come to rational determination
01:46:33.320 as to degree of harm, degree of perhaps punishment
01:46:40.380 for those who perpetuate this harm.
01:46:45.780 And I don't know how to have a rational discussion with somebody
01:46:51.400 who can't make any differentiation as to level of harm.
01:46:55.700 But I'll move off of that one.
01:46:57.880 I did want to finish up here on the final Lindsay Clancy positions
01:47:01.340 that you had, though.
01:47:02.220 So you said something about left-handed.
01:47:07.740 So the wounds, something about the wounds on her neck, perhaps not making sense because she was left-handed.
01:47:15.280 Is that correct?
01:47:16.320 They said that the husband's left-handed in the way that the slit had gone looked like a left-handed slit.
01:47:24.380 Who says that?
01:47:25.560 the forensic experts say that or people on tiktok postulate this as a a thing well i'm not sure
01:47:33.600 where social media is getting their evidence obviously they probably watched the trial more
01:47:37.260 than i did but that's well we statement that was said we each possess i don't understand so like
01:47:43.000 you i'm just trying to work through the like the wrist position here
01:47:51.260 first off you can wield a knife in either hand um i don't think somebody who's like
01:47:59.880 trying to unalive themselves is going to be particularly necessarily preoccupied with the
01:48:07.060 most comfortable hand grip on a knife what's this face you're making what
01:48:14.600 what you heard what i said yeah the face i'm making yeah what is the face you're making
01:48:24.540 what was wrong with that all right did you do like cocaine before the show or what's your deal
01:48:31.120 are you like sped or something or what no huh no
01:48:38.520 anybody else I've noticed it I don't know if there's like you're maybe feeling uncomfortable
01:48:51.300 or something maybe anxiety I but I didn't notice something weird just a lot of fidgeting moving
01:48:57.000 yeah I'm nervous all right thank you for your contribution
01:49:03.300 um okay um so okay the hand position of the knife first off
01:49:15.340 you like there's there's the it's just it doesn't even make any sense um what's the argument
01:49:23.780 there on the left-handed knife or whatever i thought i already said it you it's you're
01:49:31.580 suggesting it's impossible that somebody could
01:49:33.700 because 0.94
01:49:37.300 her handedness, that she could slice 0.98
01:49:39.740 on that side?
01:49:41.700 It's unlikely. It's unlikely.
01:49:44.540 But you do realize it's
01:49:45.700 possible that somebody could wield a knife
01:49:47.980 in the opposite hand?
01:49:50.220 Furthermore, I believe
01:49:51.940 I'm left-handed, for example.
01:49:55.680 Who cares donated $100?
01:49:59.060 Brian,
01:49:59.720 should we get rid of social media? 1.00
01:50:01.580 It seems like it's destroying women's minds as illustrated here. 0.99
01:50:05.920 The morality here is insane. 0.97
01:50:08.300 A life is a life is a life.
01:50:10.460 Murder is the ultimate sin.
01:50:15.720 Yeah, who cares?
01:50:16.720 Thank you for the TTS, man.
01:50:18.200 I appreciate it.
01:50:18.940 Yes, we should get rid of social media.
01:50:22.000 You know, social media, I don't know.
01:50:25.920 Well, I'm on social media, so I feel I have a bit of a bias here.
01:50:29.680 But certainly I think that there should be, like, if I had children, I wouldn't let them use social media until they're, like, 18 or something like that and give them, like, really good guidance on being media, like, media literacy and that sort of thing.
01:50:43.620 So, um, okay. So I'm left-handed. Um, if I'm wielding, pretend this is knife.
01:50:56.100 I can access like, even in one hand, I can access both sides of the neck with a knife. I,
01:51:02.320 so I don't understand the, like the, the knife. You think it's, it's exculpatory evidence for
01:51:08.640 lindsey and you think it's inculpatory for patrick clancy um whatever your handedness you can reach
01:51:15.400 any side of your neck um but even then there there is no like there is no testimony from my
01:51:22.960 understanding in the courtroom they're not attempting to deny that she committed this
01:51:27.080 furthermore patrick if you're claiming that it was patrick who did it patrick has a basically
01:51:32.280 bulletproof alibi that he was he was caught on security camera uh i shouldn't say caught he was
01:51:38.000 on security camera at like cvs in another store yeah during the time that the timeline that this
01:51:44.840 could have happened he was gone he has an alibi you also say mannerisms so what were the what was
01:51:51.880 the argument about mannerisms i wasn't saying i was taking a stance on mannerisms but i was just
01:51:56.100 saying the other side have talked about that the the other side had talked about that okay i think
01:52:01.740 it's because they're trying to find something to make her innocent when it's very clear that she
01:52:05.700 is very guilty right but so uh as to mannerisms um what can you be a bit more detailed what is
01:52:13.960 wrong with his mannerisms um i guess when he's just talking about certain things it's like slowly
01:52:21.220 not lined up and then obviously we had talked about the nervousness it just seems like if he
01:52:26.380 if this truly had happened to us which obviously it did happen to his children wouldn't he take a
01:52:32.200 hard stance and really want to convict her wait the hard stance on what um just like the evidence
01:52:39.500 of what truly happened wouldn't he be more like this is exactly what happened not as nervous
01:52:44.320 obviously he wants his wife to go to jail he's a witness for the prosecution but why would he's 0.94
01:52:49.780 like the primary why would he be holy fuck if we put by the way as a defendant in a criminal case 0.98
01:52:56.760 you're not under obligation to uh you don't have to self-incriminate yourself so you don't have a 0.96
01:53:01.480 burden or duty as a defendant
01:53:04.100 in a criminal trial to put yourself
01:53:06.220 on the stand.
01:53:08.520 Do you think Lindsay Clancy would be 0.97
01:53:10.220 nervous if she was on the stand, being cross
01:53:12.180 examined by the prosecution?
01:53:14.820 Yes.
01:53:15.960 Well, then she surely must be guilty simply by
01:53:18.100 virtue of her nervousness.
01:53:19.840 I can think of all sorts of reasons why somebody
01:53:22.080 might be nervous.
01:53:24.820 Going
01:53:25.340 to the courthouse
01:53:27.100 and participating
01:53:29.700 in a criminal prosecution
01:53:33.960 where your children were killed.
01:53:38.220 And not only that,
01:53:39.980 there's all kinds of,
01:53:41.080 there's like murders,
01:53:42.460 hundreds, thousands of murders
01:53:44.080 in this country every year.
01:53:45.680 There's criminal trials every year
01:53:47.240 related to these sorts of crimes.
01:53:49.020 People take the stand.
01:53:50.560 But many of them don't get
01:53:52.940 mass amounts of media attention.
01:53:54.840 So this case is within our lifetime.
01:53:58.720 Like, this is basically like O.J. Simpson level.
01:54:02.260 Maybe not, I don't think it's quite as high as O.J. Simpson level of attention.
01:54:07.060 But this is like, in recent memory, probably one of the biggest, I think it's bigger than Casey Anthony.
01:54:12.720 I think it's bigger than many, many other criminal trials.
01:54:16.540 They call it O.J. Simpson.
01:54:18.140 um but um so i can think of plenty of reasons why uh someone who is going to be cross-examined by
01:54:27.140 the dickhead defense attorney but even be questioned by the prosecutors is going to be
01:54:32.180 feel really nervous on the stand you're doing public speaking outside the courthouse you have 1.00
01:54:37.060 millions of insane women wearing purple shirts who think you fucking killed the kids and who 0.99
01:54:42.120 are supporters of lindsey clancy you're getting hate messages you're being bombarded with hate 1.00
01:54:46.520 from her supporters um you've been slandered for months on end so again i think it's perfectly
01:54:54.300 acceptable in any sort of any basically bro if you go for a civil case in a courtroom like i've
01:55:03.020 been involved in civil cases where there's no crime it's just like a silk you know landlord
01:55:08.540 dispute dispute with a housemate they owe you ten thousand dollars in rent whatever you know
01:55:14.800 whatever it is, right?
01:55:16.420 People will be nervous.
01:55:18.800 People will go to small claims court over $500.
01:55:22.140 And when they go in front of the judge,
01:55:24.180 oh, he broke my lawnmower.
01:55:28.180 I want $500 for a replacement lawnmower.
01:55:30.700 Their voice is trembling.
01:55:31.920 They're nervous.
01:55:32.960 Over $500.
01:55:34.800 Where the stakes are nothing.
01:55:36.740 You go to a courthouse.
01:55:39.000 Murder.
01:55:40.020 Major. 1.00
01:55:40.500 The biggest trial of the fucking decade. 0.99
01:55:44.440 Yeah, you're going to be nervous. 0.99
01:55:45.740 Doesn't mean you're guilty.
01:55:48.080 You're nervous right now.
01:55:49.260 What are you guilty of?
01:55:50.000 I'm not nervous anymore.
01:55:51.640 Okay, I think, okay, fine.
01:55:53.400 You're not nervous anymore.
01:55:54.980 Again, how would being nervous, let me, you ever been pulled over by a cop?
01:55:59.800 Driving a car?
01:56:00.880 How many times have you been pulled over?
01:56:04.280 Once.
01:56:05.020 One time.
01:56:05.620 What was it for?
01:56:06.320 Speeding or something?
01:56:07.000 I was speeding.
01:56:07.820 Did you end up getting a ticket?
01:56:09.040 No.
01:56:09.980 Okay.
01:56:10.240 When you were pulled over and you saw those flashing lights, did your heart sink?
01:56:15.640 Did you feel nervous?
01:56:16.920 No, I just took ownership of it.
01:56:18.300 I was just like, I was speeding okay.
01:56:20.080 So you've never been nervous?
01:56:22.580 I've been nervous, but just not in that circumstance.
01:56:25.300 But you've never been nervous when, like, pulled over by a cop?
01:56:27.680 No.
01:56:28.380 Okay.
01:56:29.380 What do you say to, like, say, an African-American person who's nervous when they're pulled over by a police officer?
01:56:35.000 I understand.
01:56:35.980 Obviously, it's a lot different for me because you can see the color of my skin. 0.96
01:56:38.640 Okay, but does it mean that that black person is guilty just by virtue of being nervous?
01:56:46.180 No.
01:56:47.600 Okay, so being nervous would not establish that someone is guilty of something.
01:56:54.360 Have you ever done public speaking?
01:56:57.020 Like in a classroom of 30 people?
01:56:59.420 Yes.
01:57:00.160 Have you ever been nervous for like a classroom presentation?
01:57:02.660 That doesn't make me nervous.
01:57:03.820 That doesn't make you nervous?
01:57:06.740 No.
01:57:06.980 Okay, do you acknowledge that, like, many people struggle with public speaking and they are nervous just even giving a presentation in front of their classroom?
01:57:16.680 I acknowledge that.
01:57:18.320 So are they, like, guilty of some sort of wrongdoing?
01:57:21.160 That logic's not tying into the guilty.
01:57:24.340 I mean, it's coherent.
01:57:25.680 People can be nervous in public speaking settings.
01:57:28.580 In this case, you're in a courtroom and you're in front of, there's the entire gallery.
01:57:33.080 So you often have 50, 60, 70, 80, 100 people in the courtroom. 1.00
01:57:38.320 And then, by the way, your crazy bitch ex-wife who murdered your three kids is right fucking there. 1.00
01:57:47.420 I'd be a little nervous. 1.00
01:57:49.840 I'd be nervous.
01:57:53.100 By the way, the sisterhood is in full effect here, by the way.
01:57:56.140 the women are upset at me for confronting her on her baby slaying apologetics um are they upset
01:58:04.440 i'm not upset there i think the women here are are uh i think they're on your side somewhat
01:58:10.600 disfrontal um i don't understand why we're still arguing about this it's clear as day i don't
01:58:15.620 understand well if she thinks that patrick clancy did it uh let's see okay so we did the nervous
01:58:20.660 thing and then there's a few more uh there's the you said there's weapon use what's that
01:58:26.100 i thought they had stated that um the weapon used the knife there was no uh fingerprints
01:58:33.280 that it was or that it was um how do you say it like i'll google it because i'm not sure i don't
01:58:39.640 have the details like wiped off that's what i meant to say lindsey clancy so on the knife
01:58:45.520 the knife that she used to self-harm okay lindsey clancy knife dna i'll just google that i think
01:58:53.720 they had said it was like wiped off would the jurors be able to know what's going on on social
01:58:58.400 media i don't know if that's just on tv but i thought jurors can't like watch things about
01:59:02.420 the case they probably still do um but they're not supposed to um let's see
01:59:07.920 they were unable to recover any usable fingerprints from either the bloody knife
01:59:15.860 or the elastic exercise bands from the massachusetts state police
01:59:23.020 this expert tightly gripped knife covered in blood tends to leave a smeared pattern
01:59:28.520 rather than distinct fingerprint ridges rubber exercise bands are highly textured and stretchy
01:59:35.640 pulling on them smudges
01:59:37.540 rich details
01:59:39.580 making it incredibly difficult to pull
01:59:41.760 viable print DNA versus
01:59:43.840 fingerprints oh while prints were missing
01:59:45.900 Lindsay Clancy's DNA was
01:59:47.740 found on the exercise bands 0.51
01:59:49.380 let me see
01:59:51.400 I think they said like minimally
01:59:53.340 DNA found on the knife
01:59:55.660 okay and go ahead continue
01:59:57.460 oh I was just saying I think they said minimally obviously he had
01:59:59.760 used the bands
02:00:01.720 more so I think they had say minimally 0.95
02:00:04.020 versus his fingerprints and hers well lindsey clancy's dna and blood were found on the knife
02:00:09.740 the dna from the blood you're saying but how and her dna i mean which could be separate but it
02:00:18.320 could be blood but yeah wouldn't there have to be like a fingerprint though
02:00:22.060 what do you mean because you're saying the dna is coming from the blood
02:00:27.100 so either way your blood contains your dna right but there could be like um other sort of residue
02:00:34.900 look i'm not a dna expert i would assume like um if you lose like any skin or something on the blade
02:00:41.920 like we're constantly shedding like microscopic levels of you know skin flakes or um so yeah there
02:00:50.360 could be sure there could so I'm confused though so your original claim was related to fingerprints
02:00:57.760 even if there weren't fingerprints recovered her DNA her DNA and blood was found on the knife
02:01:04.340 yeah that's how I was trying to argue like the DNA blood wouldn't be substantial evidence if
02:01:08.980 somebody else did it or if she did it but well they're arguing that they couldn't recover
02:01:14.400 fingerprints because, let's see, and again, the defense stipulated to the forensic facts,
02:01:25.040 no dispute during the trial, that she was the one who used the knife to inflict the injuries,
02:01:29.180 but let's see, DNA was found on the exercise bands. Yeah, so okay, you're saying even though
02:01:38.160 there's blood even though there's dna that that you need the fingerprint evidence for it to be
02:01:45.180 like completely clear-cut i'm just saying the other side would say that would need to be shown
02:01:50.800 in order to know who did that if she did that directly but if the blood flowed over hold on
02:01:57.760 what was their arguments about the blood tends to leave a smeared pattern rather than distinct
02:02:04.820 fingerprint ridges so if the blood was over the handle of the knife this would make it
02:02:11.580 difficult or impossible to get fingerprint evidence
02:02:16.200 okay okay i'm just hearing your perspective on it
02:02:24.640 i it's like what level of evidence is necessary to convince these people
02:02:31.240 um random donated 100 i just wanted to say i like the dog breed basenji look it up there cute
02:02:41.120 smiling face emoji so um okay they so your contention is because there were no fingerprints
02:02:48.680 this means that she couldn't have done it even though her blood and dna was found
02:02:54.900 on the knife
02:02:56.720 I'll tell you if it's
02:02:58.220 was the DNA
02:03:01.420 blood DNA or other type
02:03:03.460 of DNA
02:03:04.200 it was blood
02:03:09.480 DNA
02:03:09.840 it matched her
02:03:13.280 profile
02:03:14.180 so
02:03:17.560 that's not
02:03:19.620 sufficient enough for you
02:03:20.860 blood DNA evidence on the knife
02:03:23.080 i already said that i haven't seen the full trial so i'm not sure i'm just saying but you brought
02:03:27.280 it up yeah of course i'm going to bring it up because i'm seeing what the other side has said
02:03:31.240 and that's obviously why i'm persuaded a certain way who is the other side the defense attorney
02:03:37.400 who has a duty to give her the best defense possible isn't arguing any of like isn't
02:03:43.160 disputing any of the forensic evidence isn't disputing any of like the timeline stuff
02:03:48.180 none of this i'm well obviously i'm using social media so tiktok tiktok is reliable
02:03:54.480 so if i go on if i were to go on tiktok and say um you murdered somebody that's evidence
02:04:01.020 you're testing my logic yes yeah i'm not answering the testing a logic question
02:04:10.400 i think that's how we're supposed to yeah you're supposed to it doesn't correlate for me that's
02:04:15.200 why i don't like to answer it but okay you do realize my god i'm trying to think um
02:04:20.400 in the history of the world has anyone lied people have lied like frequently though i think
02:04:31.040 people lie frequently right huh people lie frequently people lie frequently um or if we
02:04:38.000 can be more charitable can somebody be misinformed and be perpetuating misinformation
02:04:44.060 I could potentially be misinformed because of the direction of how my social media is based.
02:04:50.300 And obviously, I get certain things on my algorithm.
02:04:52.920 Therefore, I'm on the other side of not guilty.
02:04:56.540 Okay.
02:04:57.900 But so I believe that many of these people are just straight up lying.
02:05:02.940 They just made it up.
02:05:03.900 They're just making up all this conjecture and hypotheses related to Patrick Clancy, Lindsay Clancy.
02:05:12.220 they're just trying to string together things that um don't even either are just false or
02:05:19.840 wouldn't establish uh wouldn't be exculpatory for lindsey or inculpatory for patrick so
02:05:26.340 um the final thing though just on the mannerisms thing uh and tiffany i don't know if you can find
02:05:31.720 this on social media there's all these memes of like lindsey clancy like staring at the jury
02:05:37.060 I'm going to just maybe just try that Lindsay Clancy stares at jury.
02:05:43.260 So if we're...
02:05:47.920 Is that it?
02:05:55.180 Can I just like find the...
02:05:58.660 They don't have just the clip?
02:06:01.240 Lindsay Clancy creepy stare?
02:06:05.800 All right.
02:06:07.060 All right, Tiffany, private chat.
02:06:10.160 I'm going to send you this.
02:06:12.880 This will probably be the final thing on this thing.
02:06:18.420 Decided not to.
02:06:20.920 Go ahead, pull it up.
02:06:24.580 Yeah, window, just mute the audio.
02:06:26.800 We don't need it.
02:06:28.760 Go ahead, press play.
02:06:34.980 Okay, watch for the blink.
02:06:36.280 move the cursor
02:06:37.120 watch for the blink 1.00
02:06:41.340 damn that bitch did it 1.00
02:06:45.920 she fucking did that shit 1.00
02:06:47.460 I don't know any other details about the case 1.00
02:06:49.400 that's a creepy bitch 1.00
02:06:50.840 she's not fucking blinking 1.00
02:06:52.940 and when she does blink it's a slow fucking blink 1.00
02:06:55.160 she's guilty 1.00
02:06:56.260 throw her to fucking jail 1.00
02:06:57.840 forget the trial 1.00
02:06:59.420 she looks like a witch 1.00
02:07:01.180 she has evil witch physiogamy 0.98
02:07:04.740 she or is that does that look like a sane person to you obviously i haven't watched the exact
02:07:12.240 i just showed you the video i know that but you're trying to test my logic on something
02:07:16.660 where i haven't actually you're saying nothing entire trial you don't have to watch the entire
02:07:21.840 trial your claim was patrick clancy patrick clancy looks guilty because his eyes are like
02:07:27.460 slightly downturned and he has like prey eyes and he's like doesn't have like a hyper masculine
02:07:32.620 facial structure therefore 1.00
02:07:34.880 he's a fucking murderer 1.00
02:07:36.600 because he looks like a beta male or some shit 1.00
02:07:38.840 I said social media said that 0.99
02:07:40.460 you agree with the social media
02:07:42.000 because that's the information I'm receiving
02:07:44.400 so of course I would agree
02:07:45.740 but just because you consume content doesn't mean you have to
02:07:48.620 agree with the conclusions
02:07:50.040 but I've always said this from the beginning I'm getting my content from social media
02:07:52.920 I haven't seen the exact trial
02:07:54.300 of course I would agree because of my specific
02:07:56.880 algorithm I'm being fed certain things
02:07:58.720 so of course I'm seeing that stance
02:08:00.480 i haven't seen the other side which i'm which is why i'm very open to hearing your perspective
02:08:04.220 but your position is you know i don't think lindsey clancy did it i think there seems to
02:08:10.860 be some evidence pointing towards patrick clancy actually being the perpetrator of this in some
02:08:16.660 capacity and then you cited to his mannerisms he's nervous the way he looks i'm sorry she don't look
02:08:25.800 so good herself. She don't
02:08:27.760 look so hot. She was 1.00
02:08:29.740 kind of hot like back in the day. Like I would 0.99
02:08:31.640 probably, if her labia was big, like I would 1.00
02:08:33.720 have cracked. But 1.00
02:08:34.440 she had the sperm 1.00
02:08:37.000 eyebrows and shit. So I don't know. That's a red flag 1.00
02:08:39.760 though. Is she a pediatric
02:08:41.860 nurse? Is that true? Is that the kind of nurse
02:08:43.820 she was? She was a pediatric nurse. 1.00
02:08:46.120 That's so sad.
02:08:47.420 Alright. I guess the final thing here.
02:08:49.540 It is a dating podcast. I'll bring it to this.
02:08:52.980 And I think
02:08:53.700 is the audio back on?
02:08:55.800 Okay. Hold on. Let's, I'm going to put it one sec. We got, I need to put it over here while
02:09:03.480 we're getting a, all right, go ahead. Take your seat. Okay. So final question, starting with,
02:09:10.420 starting with you going around the table. This is, since it's dating podcast related,
02:09:17.580 uh many boyfriends girlfriends wives husbands have had conversations about this case and there's
02:09:26.300 reports many reports uh boyfriends breaking up with girlfriends girlfriends breaking up with
02:09:32.180 boyfriends husbands leaving their wives wives leaving their husbands and usually it plays out
02:09:38.660 as follows the man thinks she's guilty the woman thinks lindsey clancy didn't do it or postpartum
02:09:45.440 blah blah uh do you think it's wrong for a husband to divorce his wife because she's a
02:09:53.680 lindsey clancy supporter starting with you i think it's not wrong well it depends on how informed the
02:10:04.800 the wife is okay if she really believes that um the wife is in distress emotional distress or
02:10:14.480 insane or whatever um i would say divorcing the wife just for supporting that is a little too
02:10:20.640 extreme but um i don't know i just think it's a little too extreme but if she really supports
02:10:29.060 lindsey i don't think it's wrong to like divorce the wife because
02:10:33.580 they have the same mentality so it could happen to you too i don't know
02:10:37.420 what could happen to you like if your wife supports that kind of behavior
02:10:44.000 oh right yeah that she might she might do the same murk your kids yeah i mean okay yeah yeah
02:10:52.960 your thoughts no i don't think it's wrong okay i don't think it's wrong i don't think it's wrong 0.99
02:11:01.180 i think if you don't protect children you're a fucking retard well said okay i'm sorry let me 0.99
02:11:07.200 have you scoot into the table please scoot into the table i don't think it's wrong all right next 1.00
02:11:11.840 my boyfriend's traditional conservative and he hasn't broken up with me yet so
02:11:15.960 is he watching the show i might i'm not sure potentially dumper dumper dude she
02:11:23.740 she thinks lindsey clancy's innocent bro she's gonna murk your kids bro okay what sorry um i
02:11:31.440 think that a divorce resulting from a disagreement about something that's not related to the marriage
02:11:37.500 might mean that the marriage has a weak foundation,
02:11:40.480 but that's just my opinion.
02:11:42.520 Okay.
02:11:43.680 Thoughts? 1.00
02:11:44.900 Divorce her and what, leave her with your kids?
02:11:47.040 I don't know. 0.97
02:11:47.900 Well, you've got to fight for the kids.
02:11:48.680 Maybe take the kids with you.
02:11:49.760 Let's say maybe there's no kids, no kids yet.
02:11:54.280 I'm unsure.
02:11:55.600 Okay, next.
02:11:56.200 I'm really unsure, sorry.
02:11:58.280 Because as a Christian, I don't believe in divorce
02:12:01.360 unless certain circumstances.
02:12:03.480 I do wholeheartedly believe, though,
02:12:05.380 if you are not married, yeah, break up because you have different values in life and you have
02:12:10.720 huge differences in political opinion. But in regard to marriage, I think there are things
02:12:15.940 that you can work on. And if it gets to the point of arguments, you need marriage counseling. You
02:12:21.420 maybe even need to have a separation for the time being. If it gets to that point, if your wife is
02:12:29.040 not opening uh open to understanding then she's closed-minded that's a really hard stance to be
02:12:36.540 on but just as a christian i think there's particular ways we approach things gotcha
02:12:41.280 okay what about you yeah well said i agree with that if you're not married yet it's probably
02:12:47.560 a good idea if you're not on the same mind if you are married that's hard because
02:12:52.880 marriage is a really sacred thing and you'll just have to work that out might be a lot of
02:12:59.980 fights for a while a lot of fights yeah well if i mean from the christian perspective you guys
02:13:06.040 would say that uh wives obey your husband yeah submission absolutely uh no go ahead you go first
02:13:13.680 well first what does the bible say about the husbands well the bible says gives prescriptions
02:13:21.640 for husbands too but are you denying that the bible instructs women to obey their husbands
02:13:28.760 it says that but it's a little more complicated than that explain it's a beautiful
02:13:35.260 are we trying to pair this to this case
02:13:41.480 are you look if i want to branching off into something else yeah uh 0.74
02:13:46.420 offshoots are fine okay um women are supposed to submit to their husbands as husbands you know
02:13:57.860 love their wives as christ does the church and with that comes a beautiful
02:14:02.040 a beautiful thing that is a lot deeper than can just be said right here
02:14:08.800 uh yeah so what what you said there is correct but you bring this up to contend with my assertion
02:14:17.760 that from a christian perspective the bible says wives obey your husbands
02:14:23.200 so you disagree i agree wives should obey their husbands but
02:14:32.740 it would be nice if there's a little more context on what they're trying to obey
02:14:36.100 uh this this assumes that the husband is acting morally and in alignment with if it was my husband
02:14:44.880 then i would assume that my husband is of good character and i would be willing to obey my
02:14:50.260 husband gotcha um now you wanted to jump back in on this i think yeah absolutely i i wholeheartedly
02:14:56.720 agree that um and that's actually probably uh this is one of my stances i i do believe women
02:15:01.060 should find a husband to submit to men and women serve different roles however if you're not a
02:15:08.740 Christian it's a little harder but I'm going to just give it on the Christian perspective
02:15:12.060 if this is me and this is my husband and in the center of our relationship is Christ we're always
02:15:17.520 going to meet in the middle but if this is me and let's just hypothetically say I'm for Lindsay
02:15:22.560 Clancy but my husband is for Christ yeah we're going to clash we're going to clash a lot and in
02:15:28.600 reality, that is probably going to go toward more of what statistics say of leading into divorce.
02:15:38.000 Just because divorce is an option for many people who are non-Christian, that doesn't mean you can't
02:15:44.060 work things out. Again, I believe that if a husband is in full submission to Christ, he will be able
02:15:50.220 to steward his wife well, and he would be able to show her, just because you don't really understand
02:15:55.600 in this particular sense, I need to lead you to show you why this is inherently wrong. And that
02:16:00.960 is his sole responsibility as a husband. So, I mean, that's just my particular opinion when it
02:16:09.040 comes to a biblical perspective. I mean, I'm a Christian, so I'm going to talk about biblical
02:16:12.220 stances. And I know you're a Christian too, so I don't know what your stance is. I'm not a Christian.
02:16:16.140 Oh, you're not a Christian. Okay. I have pro-Christian sentiment, but I consider myself 0.95
02:16:19.520 agnostic okay okay then um i mean i would i would say that um personally look i'm not a christian
02:16:29.040 this is obviously not in line or whatever but i think if honestly look sometimes you got to
02:16:34.480 operate from a pragmatic perspective here and it obviously depends on your denomination as
02:16:41.260 a christian like catholics for example view marriages indissoluble like you can't get 0.99
02:16:47.540 fucking divorce basically um in like protestants and non-doms they probably don't give a fuck 0.98
02:16:52.840 really all that much really um but um and certainly in orthodox you divorce is highly frowned upon 0.99
02:17:01.940 um i honestly think though bro if you're if you're a christian man and your wife is a lindsey 0.99
02:17:09.480 clancy supporter you're gonna have to sin bro you're gonna have to divorce your crazy wife 0.98
02:17:15.620 I'm telling you, all men watching, if your girlfriend is a Lindsay Clancy supporter, 0.99
02:17:20.780 I don't care how, you're an Orthodox Christian, you're going to, hey, you got to sin, bro. 0.91
02:17:25.880 You got to divorce. 1.00
02:17:27.640 You got to divorce your Jezebel wife. 0.97
02:17:30.640 It's over. 0.70
02:17:31.900 If she supports Lindsay Clancy, I'm sorry.
02:17:35.480 Divorce.
02:17:36.060 Goodbye.
02:17:36.740 Don't listen to a man that encourages sin.
02:17:39.060 I disagree with all of what is going on.
02:17:42.080 Sometimes you got to sin.
02:17:42.900 sometimes you gotta sin you know that's not true no i'm just look i'm just saying look i'm looking
02:17:49.340 out for my christian bros i'm looking out i know i'm looking out for my christian bros
02:17:55.200 i gotta look out for my christian bros if your wife is a lindsey clancy supporter
02:18:00.820 god will god will forgive you god will forgive you dude i'm just saying that
02:18:07.040 that's definitely in the bible by the way it's in the bible yeah let's take biblical
02:18:16.400 scripture out of context it's it's for sure it's for sure in the bible um
02:18:21.040 ye marry a jezebelian strumpet ye may divorce the word for word word for word
02:18:31.460 that's atlas atlas that's a first chapter atlas verse 69 um i don't know brian 420 god will
02:18:47.400 forgive you somebody in the chat um all right um okay uh let's see if there's anything else yeah
02:18:53.900 i think um i think if you're a guy you gotta and look how about this if you're a girl and you're
02:19:01.180 anti Lindsay Clancy and your boyfriend's like soy and fucking supports is like, Oh, I think Patrick 0.89
02:19:08.440 did it. If you're a chick, your boyfriend's fucking soy. You got to, you got to break up 1.00
02:19:14.300 with your boyfriend. Break up with him. Yes. You got to, yeah. I mean, you got to dump him right
02:19:19.260 away. Dump him a divorce, divorce your boyfriend. Even Atlas three 16. Uh, uh, I don't know. Um,
02:19:28.820 Okay, I think we're done with Lindsay Clancy.
02:19:30.820 I don't know if there's anything.
02:19:32.120 Was there anything else? 0.97
02:19:37.740 Really quick, because religion came up, just starting over here.
02:19:41.100 So I know you both are Christian.
02:19:44.180 We'll go around the table, just are you religious, are you Christian?
02:19:46.740 But what's your denomination? 0.89
02:19:49.160 Excuse me, tongue-tied.
02:19:50.800 Non-denominational at the moment.
02:19:52.380 Non-denominational.
02:19:53.200 Okay, next.
02:19:54.100 Non-denominational.
02:19:55.320 Non-denominational.
02:19:57.220 Next.
02:19:57.620 I was raised Catholic, so I'm re-entering my faith.
02:20:02.220 I don't know if I'm going to stay Catholic or if I'm going to choose a different Christian religion.
02:20:05.840 But right now, I guess I'm Catholic.
02:20:08.600 One sec.
02:20:09.820 Political underscore overtones donated $100.
02:20:13.200 Oh, that's interesting.
02:20:14.040 Was it a sin for Patrick to divorce Lindsay?
02:20:16.600 Interesting.
02:20:19.160 Anybody want to?
02:20:20.140 Well, I don't know much about Patrick's religious status.
02:20:24.580 Can a husband under, are they Catholic?
02:20:28.020 I don't know. 0.91
02:20:28.460 Let's just say he's Catholic, right? 0.96
02:20:30.920 In the Bible, it does talk about the unbeliever is supposed to initiate divorce.
02:20:35.940 Is it a sin for Patrick, the unbeliever? 0.67
02:20:40.460 Yeah. 0.56
02:20:42.020 Is it a sin for Patrick Clancy to divorce Lindsay Clancy Christian perspective?
02:20:50.120 Curious what the Google says.
02:20:54.580 technically uh for mains from a mainstream christian perspective generally not considered
02:21:02.180 a sin for patrick clancy to divorce lindsey clancy given the extreme and tragic circumstances
02:21:07.440 of their situation the pornea exception oh that's interesting uh jesus stated that divorce is
02:21:15.120 impermissible except for sexual immorality um can i actually add to that so there is a lot of
02:21:24.500 theological uh debate on that particular sense so some people think that um you know sexual
02:21:30.700 immorality but um perspectives i've heard in the um theological debates is that jesus was giving
02:21:37.740 an example of a very um sinful act so i i don't know yet where i stand on that so
02:21:44.700 for instance sexual immorality is one of the um worst sins that you commit well let's keep it let's
02:21:52.140 Keep it to the question.
02:21:53.720 Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.
02:21:54.520 So as murder.
02:21:55.580 So he's using it as an example.
02:21:57.240 This is one of the greater sins that can deem for divorce.
02:22:02.720 But, you know, again, I still don't have a solid, you know, stance on it yet.
02:22:07.740 But if I were in that position and I was Patrick and let's say Patrick was a believer, I would really have to pray hard about that.
02:22:15.780 And I will likely stand on the part of I might divorce him.
02:22:20.320 Okay, your answer.
02:22:22.140 We were going around the table.
02:22:23.860 Spiritual?
02:22:24.920 Is that an option?
02:22:26.020 Wait.
02:22:26.900 Are you?
02:22:28.100 Or, I don't.
02:22:28.980 Sure.
02:22:29.620 Okay.
02:22:29.980 Okay, nice.
02:22:31.300 I was born Catholic, more open-minded now.
02:22:35.800 Okay, so.
02:22:40.440 You were born Catholic.
02:22:41.880 Are you still Catholic?
02:22:44.460 No, I wouldn't say as practicing. 1.00
02:22:47.400 Okay, next.
02:22:48.460 Agnostic slash spiritual. 0.72
02:22:50.880 Religious.
02:22:51.440 agnostic not religious atheist atheist okay um so okay non-denominational non-denominational
02:23:01.000 uh both of you do ministry is that correct yeah i do okay let me ask you guys a question say you're
02:23:08.440 uh married to your husband and he was like you know what i want you to take on
02:23:15.180 more duties in the household i want you to stop your ministry would you uh
02:23:20.160 uh, accept that from your husband? Sure. Um, if he saw that my ministry has overtaken my
02:23:30.280 responsibilities as a woman, yeah, I would hear him out. And I would definitely, if I am not able 1.00
02:23:35.500 to do both ministry and take care of home, um, responsibility, I'm going to have to follow what
02:23:41.260 he calls me to do. Um, and, uh, a little closer, please be more, be more responsible in the things
02:23:48.960 that I'm called to do okay what about you I don't know if I'm gonna get married yet I'm willing if
02:23:54.100 it comes my way but I know that I'm doing things that have a really big calling in my life and in
02:24:02.640 my heart and I'm looking forward to pursuing them so if I did get married I assume my partner would
02:24:09.520 be aligned with the ministry that we'd be doing together and if there were things that needed to
02:24:16.080 be done at home that would be a discussion but ultimately we're I know whoever I'm with we're
02:24:22.300 seeking to just do things for the kingdom and to help other people and I don't think in my life
02:24:30.680 and in my relationship I would be in a place where my family would be suffering or the ministry
02:24:35.920 but we would be seeking wisdom to do that well and in all things okay but so in the hypothetical
02:24:44.140 scenario, it does, it basically says that your husband wants you to cease doing this outside
02:24:52.280 work. I would follow him and I would, I would. So I understand. I'm again, I'm getting sort of
02:24:58.980 vague answers here. I'm trying to cut to the cut to the core of this. Um, so assuming you seem
02:25:06.220 somewhat apprehensive to marriage, although I even somewhat questioned that from a secondary
02:25:12.200 perspective, because there is, my understanding of Christianity, there is a typical calling for
02:25:18.700 people to seek out husbands and be fruitful and multiply, have children, etc. Of course,
02:25:25.220 not all women are obligated to do so, but that being beside the point, so just to be clear,
02:25:33.820 your husband's like, hey, listen, I'd rather you bring your attentions more so to the interior
02:25:41.940 of the household and say, you know, say you have kids. Um, I don't want you doing the ministry
02:25:49.080 stuff. And maybe he talks to you about it, but he says, you know what, we've talked about it.
02:25:56.760 You still want to do it. I don't want you to do it. Um, that's my final say on it. Do you, uh,
02:26:03.800 submit? Do you obey your husband? Yeah. Okay. So you would stop.
02:26:08.740 well actually though i'm well i have to trust that my husband's a good man and if he
02:26:15.780 is saying that then it's probably for a good reason okay so you would
02:26:20.920 i'm i'm detecting a little uh i don't know like i'm saying yes so you move it on
02:26:29.500 but i actually don't think this no i it's a it's a good thing to think about i think
02:26:35.780 i have to remember if i marry someone who is as close to the lord as i hope he would be
02:26:41.460 then if he is leading me to step back and spend time at home then i have to trust that it's for
02:26:46.640 a good reason okay fair enough all right i think we're done with lindsey clancy then uh
02:26:52.300 wow fun times fun times um let's see if there's oh ah yes really quick coming back to you um
02:27:01.460 was anybody anybody else here like not born in the united states anybody else here not born in
02:27:07.620 the united states just you okay i have a quick question for you then uh so you moved here from
02:27:13.000 vietnam when you were 18 and you have a green card right oh but hmm you don't have your
02:27:20.640 citizenship no not yet uh do you want to get your citizenship uh yes so i don't have to ask for visa
02:27:26.720 Because the Vietnamese passport is pretty weak.
02:27:30.180 I don't have to, but I would prefer one. 0.99
02:27:32.660 Are you in the process, or do you see it in your future to try to become a citizen of the United States?
02:27:38.560 I'm in the waiting process.
02:27:40.920 You're in the process.
02:27:41.620 Okay.
02:27:42.400 All right.
02:27:43.480 I have a question for you.
02:27:47.340 How do I?
02:27:47.860 Which one?
02:27:48.440 Okay.
02:27:48.780 So, now, by the way, the United States actually did, in fact, back in the late 60s and 70s, as I'm sure you're aware, did, in fact, actually have a military conflict with Vietnam.
02:28:02.600 Now, of course, there is really no conflict.
02:28:06.000 Hold on.
02:28:06.260 Of course, there is no conflict, military conflict, at the time being, with Vietnam.
02:28:12.400 Base, Trinort donated $100.
02:28:15.160 Thank you, man.
02:28:15.540 Lindsay had seven psych meds in her system, Lomartrigine, Mietazepine, Quetiapine, Trazidone, Lorazepam, Diazepam, and Nordiazepam.
02:28:27.400 Cranked to the moon. Stay off cements. 0.99
02:28:31.220 Yeah, and look, that's a fair angle to take, you know, the medication component.
02:28:37.360 But I don't know. Look, I think there's a lot of in-group bias going on with the Lindsay Clancy thing.
02:28:44.200 if it was a man who was fucking on a drug or something like are we going to let a dude off 0.95
02:28:51.360 who is under the influence of alcohol or methamphetamine or even psychoactive drug like 0.98
02:28:57.160 it's not going to happen there's like a different standard like there's a two-tiered 1.00
02:29:02.520 justice system when it comes to women going back to this in a morally neutral blame-free 1.00
02:29:09.320 hypothetical conflict between the united states and your birth country vietnam where neither 1.00
02:29:14.440 side is right or wrong to which country is your allegiance
02:29:18.160 neither side i i feel like the america is always wrong because
02:29:26.560 because vietnam is like a small country and i don't think if they're not right there's nobody
02:29:33.940 stand up against america so that would be i don't know it would be hard well just answer your
02:29:40.900 question though uh let's say if it's neither right or wrong i would be neutral i don't have to you
02:29:47.660 have to pick but i don't you have to pick
02:29:50.560 i would say america because i live here now okay now let's say america well i don't know i was
02:30:02.080 going to say let's say america is like the bad guy um let me ask you this though so america did
02:30:07.880 have a military conflict uh with vietnam do you from your perspective that historical war
02:30:13.440 do you think america was the bad guy okay um and now if you were a united states citizen say
02:30:20.260 back in the 60s you weren't alive but uh in the 60s and 70s when we were at war with vietnam
02:30:27.460 but you lived here, would you side with America
02:30:31.680 or would you side with Vietnam for the actual Vietnam War?
02:30:37.780 If I lived here, but do I know the fact that America is right or wrong or not?
02:30:44.200 Well, yeah, even in the 60s and 70s, there were a lot of protests against the war.
02:30:49.820 There was a lot of people who were against the war in Vietnam.
02:30:52.800 And certainly there are many criticisms of the United States' involvement
02:30:56.240 in this vietnamese conflict um so yeah people back then were like hey this is not this is bad
02:31:05.120 i wouldn't side with america because america is the one that like go to vietnam so uh but in the
02:31:13.220 hypothetical scenario you said you would side with the united states well that's because i didn't
02:31:19.260 think about uh how america went to vietnam i was thinking about like a new previously but this
02:31:24.320 Yes, in a neutral.
02:31:26.060 In a neutral.
02:31:26.480 Like nobody's going to any other people in a neutral.
02:31:27.680 Yeah, Vietnam, I don't know, just neutral war.
02:31:31.340 Like just nobody's. 0.59
02:31:32.060 As a hypothetical, yeah.
02:31:33.140 Well, I would say, I don't know, it's a.
02:31:34.900 USA?
02:31:36.340 Or Vietnam? 0.79
02:31:40.280 Well, it's hard to pick because nobody's right or wrong.
02:31:42.660 Why would I pick everybody as like equal?
02:31:44.260 Like I have equal.
02:31:46.240 Because like you're part of.
02:31:48.400 You're part of the nation.
02:31:49.820 but i'm also a vietnamese like i also have a vietnamese passport so that's true there's no
02:31:58.420 like but you do you're trying to become an american citizen and you live in the united
02:32:05.260 states and you have a green card here i would say i would lean on america a little bit a little bit
02:32:11.240 because this is where the dreams are from tiffany pull up the oath of allegiance
02:32:14.660 it's one of the images
02:32:20.460 you can make it a little bigger
02:32:23.160 bigger
02:32:26.200 so when somebody goes through the citizenship process
02:32:30.440 which you're trying to do
02:32:31.500 the final step really is to
02:32:34.200 you have to take an oath of allegiance
02:32:35.980 so by the way this isn't a hypothetical scenario
02:32:39.700 like the US could technically be wrong
02:32:41.760 in a military conflict
02:32:43.520 and you still owe an allegiance
02:32:45.680 to the United States
02:32:46.860 even if you think that it's wrong
02:32:49.420 so basically
02:32:51.420 actually let me pull it back up
02:32:52.740 what it's saying there is
02:32:54.340 you renounce any
02:32:57.320 past
02:32:59.520 or I suppose even current
02:33:01.560 allegiance to any foreign
02:33:03.640 prince, state, sovereignty
02:33:05.340 country of whom you
02:33:07.580 which have theretofore
02:33:09.880 been a subject or citizen
02:33:10.920 and that your allegiance is now to the United States.
02:33:15.140 So you will have to read that and give an oath of allegiance
02:33:17.640 if you do opt to become a citizen, just FYI.
02:33:22.340 Okay.
02:33:22.920 Just letting you know.
02:33:23.340 I guess if I have to take the oath, then I have to pick America.
02:33:25.940 Okay, all right.
02:33:28.260 And this is why.
02:33:30.900 Okay, never mind.
02:33:32.460 Okay, pull up that Super Chat.
02:33:35.560 Is that British Pounds, I believe?
02:33:37.180 Brian, check out Deirdre Morley.
02:33:40.120 take note of the names and the date and compare it to lindsey clancy is it like some sort of
02:33:45.620 coincidence where like the kids share like the first names all start with the same letter and
02:33:52.160 the dates are kind of i think i saw that the other day and um i think there are definitely
02:33:58.280 coincidences that can happen i don't think it's it's an interesting coincidence i guess i'll say
02:34:03.560 that thank you for your hundred dollar uh i think it's that three years to the day the same exact
02:34:09.120 day that some woman in Ireland killed her three
02:34:11.140 children then the same thing happened
02:34:12.960 and it was like exactly the same exact
02:34:15.140 day three years later or something. Yes.
02:34:16.840 Demonic. True.
02:34:19.120 True.
02:34:20.640 Okay. Let's see here.
02:34:23.160 Let's get into some of the questionnaire
02:34:24.860 stuff here. Let's see who has
02:34:26.940 some interesting stuff.
02:34:30.880 Okay. Hold on.
02:34:34.640 Jalen. 1.00
02:34:36.280 People of 0.99
02:34:37.200 color can't be racist towards white people why is that well i believe in systematic racism okay
02:34:44.780 and so because of that perspective of institute being institutionalized i believe that when
02:34:51.600 african-americans for example are calling white people a certain slur sure that it would be more
02:34:59.140 out of hostility versus actual racism that's why i categorize that as more of prejudice
02:35:05.580 racism so you said systemic racism right okay now let's separate the term racism from systemic
02:35:13.700 how would you define just racism that's a little harder because i tie it together when i'm thinking
02:35:22.060 about america i think of systemic racism really quick though uh you would acknowledge that racism
02:35:28.720 exists outside of america right right um let me ask this though does races uh does racism only
02:35:38.500 exist in countries that are predominantly white so say western countries not necessarily i was
02:35:46.300 taking the perspective of america but right but you you are willing to grant that racism exists
02:35:51.460 say in like china or korea or um parts of africa right well not just right or do you when you say
02:36:00.280 right do you you agree with that or i agree it can happen okay but so you think all racism has
02:36:06.580 some tie to systems or institutions or when it comes to america so racism cannot exist in america
02:36:17.240 unless it is systemic or systematic racism i believe it's more systemic but so there's not
02:36:23.800 individualized racism like i said it's it's more internalized okay well i'm willing to grant that
02:36:31.640 there is systemic or institutional racism so for example like say a company's hiring process say
02:36:37.220 it's like all white people who are in the executive field or the managerial roles and they're like
02:36:42.580 you know what we're not going to hire black people that would be systemically and institutionally 0.97
02:36:47.000 racist. But I would also think on an individual level, on an individual basis, say if a white 0.89
02:36:55.220 person harbors hatred or resentment towards black people, that wouldn't be systemic racism because
02:37:01.620 that's individualized. That would be just racist. I would just call it racism or we could say 0.54
02:37:07.360 individual racism. It's an interesting perspective. I guess I'm taking the other
02:37:12.660 perspective if you kind of heard what i stated before right so well okay go ahead i know i was
02:37:20.420 probably just going to reiterate what i kind of said before which is what if that systemic racism
02:37:27.480 my perspective it exists in america right so i'll grant it when black people for example
02:37:34.440 are calling a white person a slur yeah the c word i get it yeah right systemically they're
02:37:41.420 internalizing a certain perspective because of the systemic racism therefore they're not
02:37:47.660 necessarily being racist they're being prejudiced because it's an internal judgment of how they
02:37:52.980 perceive white people based on systemic racism i mean your own definition you just gave actually
02:37:59.700 meets the standard for racism because a white person is doing said thing uh therefore they
02:38:05.160 deserve like lesser level of consideration essentially um so i'm willing to grant though
02:38:11.260 that like the c word is not as bad like saying the c word towards a white person is not as bad
02:38:15.900 for like his like for historical concept context as bad as saying the n word to a black person
02:38:21.000 i'm actually willing to completely grant that my further question though is um setting aside like 0.94
02:38:28.100 just using a word which i would still categorize as racism even if it's like a black person doing
02:38:34.740 it to a white person. I'll set that aside. Say a black person harbors severe hatred towards white 0.98
02:38:41.960 people and then walks up to a white person and, um, uh, well, we don't even have to go that far, 0.99
02:38:51.520 uh, assaults them, punches them in the face. It's unprovoked, just completely. It's not 0.53
02:38:57.160 a white person known to this black person. They were not provoked. Just a black person
02:39:02.280 walks up to a white person, punches them in the face a few times, you know, gives them brain 1.00
02:39:07.660 damage, whatever, just because they're white. Would that be considered racism to you? Prejudice. 0.99
02:39:15.960 Prejudice. Now, let's try this. A white person doesn't know the black person,
02:39:21.400 not provoked. White person walks up to a black person, punches them in the face just because 0.99
02:39:26.140 they're black is that racist you're testing my logic a little bit so i don't know where i could 0.97
02:39:32.520 fully align with that perspective but i don't know why you keep defaulting to 0.94
02:39:38.180 while you're testing my logic here because correct your assessment is correct answer the
02:39:44.100 question but that's truly my answer is i don't know why i would follow with that but the first
02:39:47.980 question i would say but so okay the first question prejudice the second question unsure
02:39:53.600 unsure well let me bust out some white privilege here that would be racist a white person walking 0.99
02:40:04.360 up to a black person and punching them in the face because they're black that's racist as a 1.00
02:40:09.420 white man i can say that are you mixed race are you like latina afro latina black latina 1.00
02:40:14.600 so you can't definitively state that a white person walking up to a black person and punching
02:40:22.760 them just because they're black that would you don't think that's racist i would see that as
02:40:27.700 racist that's why i'm categorizing the difference so it is racist i'll declare that i see that as
02:40:34.420 racist the white person walking up to the black person but so explain to me then why it wouldn't
02:40:40.320 be racist for like it's the exact same incident that's occurring a black person walks up to a
02:40:45.920 white person punches them in the face why would that not be racist i think because what i talked
02:40:50.020 about before a lot of black people that i've seen hold a lot of hostility because of
02:40:55.520 institutionalization so they're racist i just see it more as prejudice because it's an internal 0.66
02:41:01.260 judgment okay so black people hold hostility towards white people ergo racism sorry say it
02:41:10.320 again but let me ask you a question if white people held resentment for black people just
02:41:14.840 that? In and of itself, is that
02:41:16.880 racism?
02:41:18.540 I'd fall under racism.
02:41:20.800 Yes, I also would think that that falls
02:41:22.780 under racism.
02:41:24.980 So, 1.00
02:41:25.820 why is it not racism if a black 1.00
02:41:28.920 person punches a white person? 1.00
02:41:30.920 Let me, maybe I'll,
02:41:32.560 is that coming from inside, Tiffany, or outside?
02:41:35.480 Tiffany, is that coming from inside
02:41:36.760 or outside?
02:41:38.960 Okay.
02:41:43.580 Where was I?
02:41:44.840 yeah i think you'd have to test my logic a little bit different
02:41:50.820 i actually had something there unfortunately i got distracted um
02:41:55.960 okay so just so i have your position correct if a white person uh or excuse me a black person 0.97
02:42:09.660 goes up to a white person dislikes white people and punches them punches that white 0.91
02:42:14.060 person in the face because they're white from your perspective it would not be racism it would 0.98
02:42:18.520 be prejudice it would be prejudice now let me ask ah here's my question is one worse than the other
02:42:25.020 assume the damage done is the exact same so they get a broken nose in both instances and
02:42:32.420 they both need to get plastic surgery and the cost is the exact same to both of them
02:42:37.400 and they're socioeconomically exactly the same.
02:42:42.900 The aftermath, the negative side effects, whatever, exactly the same.
02:42:48.940 Is one worse than the other?
02:42:51.020 I'm going equally worse.
02:42:52.900 Equally worse.
02:42:54.060 Equally worse, but one is racism and one is prejudice.
02:42:57.040 Right.
02:42:57.320 I don't necessarily agree that we should hold prejudice against white people
02:43:01.180 of what happened in the past,
02:43:02.360 but I do hold accountable that there is a certain perception,
02:43:05.800 an internal judgment that happens because of it right now we need to go back really quick let's
02:43:10.960 define racism how do you define racism um it's so hard because i think of it more systemically
02:43:17.540 how about here maybe i can propose one and you tell me if it aligns okay this is not my
02:43:23.720 definition of racism but this is a definition i've heard okay racism equals prejudice plus power
02:43:31.080 that's interesting i would agree with that so you agree with that 100 i agree with that so okay and
02:43:37.120 i suppose i should ask you this too i've actually thought about this a lot on the train so if
02:43:40.460 somebody punches you in the face on the train because of your skin color it's a hate crime 0.96
02:43:44.120 unless now there's a thing like if any of this race comes to the train we'll punch them in the 0.96
02:43:48.620 face then it becomes racism one punch in the face hate crime if now people of a race are scared to 0.98
02:43:53.660 go on the train or they can't ride the train because of fear of getting punched in the face
02:43:58.020 that's when it becomes racism because now it impedes on it like oppresses me now now i can't 0.96
02:44:03.340 ride the train because black women are getting punched in the face on it they would both both
02:44:07.180 instances would be racism either either race they would be but that would make it racism is if now 0.97
02:44:12.300 you can't ride the train because if you're a certain race you'll be punched in the face 0.51
02:44:16.120 but it would still be racism both i don't know both are racist i think it's a hate crime i believe
02:44:22.620 i believe that they're different but okay you hate the person because of their skin color
02:44:26.340 racism i don't think i only believe in the institutional racism definition so i don't
02:44:32.780 believe that if you are not circle this if you are not oppressing me because if a black person
02:44:38.280 is in a position of power they can be racist towards a white person like if i have a company
02:44:42.360 and i don't hire white people i'm now being racist okay so that's why wait wait hold on 0.63
02:44:47.960 so let me ask you a question let me say like let's say a not insane but a like white homeless person 0.99
02:44:53.780 um somehow broke into the white house and he was some fucking homeless genius assassin 1.00
02:45:00.280 and murked barack obama because he's black 1.00
02:45:04.380 was that and he's like here's my manifesto i really like i really dislike black people 0.99
02:45:12.100 and i'm gonna murk barack obama because he's black but he's homeless he's broke he has zero power 0.96
02:45:17.940 is that a racist act i feel like it's a mic mic mic sorry it's an act that stems from racism but
02:45:25.960 it's actually a prejudice act no it's what okay so you're saying i'm being so wait you are being
02:45:32.400 consistent that is fair but i think you you're consistent in your um illogical position i
02:45:41.040 suppose so i i don't understand why there needs to be a component of power for something to be
02:45:47.060 racist. You're just changing the definition of racism to suit your needs. No, it's not to suit
02:45:53.240 my needs. It's a little deeper than that. It's because what racism has done to people is so
02:45:57.880 serious that I'm not going to call somebody that just says slurs racist. Like a racist person is
02:46:03.000 a powerful person that puts people down. I'm not going to give somebody that title. I'm not going
02:46:07.360 to give some pathetic person that calls me the N word, the title of racist. So I feel like I don't 0.99
02:46:12.800 want to give people that title because I think that that's giving them a higher rating. Like
02:46:16.120 you can't be racist to me if I'm more powerful, richer, and better than you.
02:46:19.840 Like, how do you be racist towards me?
02:46:21.120 But then we can just change, then do words mean anything?
02:46:23.920 We can just change the definition to best suit ourselves.
02:46:26.620 So if you Google this, it's actually a real definition.
02:46:28.720 There's actually a group of people, and we do change words.
02:46:31.180 That's what the legal system does.
02:46:32.420 People change the meaning of words through the legal system.
02:46:35.380 So does that not happen?
02:46:36.520 The actual definition, yes.
02:46:39.400 Over time, sometimes words can change.
02:46:41.920 However, the current definition of racism
02:46:44.520 has not magically changed to racism is now racism uh as commonly understood even today
02:46:53.220 but throughout history has always been hatred contempt or prejudice or discrimination
02:47:00.820 against a person on the basis of their race or skin color or something like this now you guys
02:47:08.840 want to tack on well there has to be like a power dynamic at play i reject that that's a very
02:47:14.400 new introduction by like woke academics that's completely ludicrous i could we could even google
02:47:22.100 it tiffany just google racism or here i'll just google it i'll just google it you don't have to
02:47:27.480 do it tiffany i'll google it and i'll read you what it oh my god well i i'm not part of like that
02:47:32.600 that movement or whatever but i am part of people wanting to change that word like i don't think
02:47:38.080 that i should use racism for everything that happens to me i think prejudice happens buys
02:47:42.200 happens i don't believe that i personally experience racism and i think a lot of times
02:47:46.000 when i do i don't know like if someone doesn't hire me because i'm black i don't usually know
02:47:49.960 so the racism that i experience i'm usually not even aware of it well we have to differentiate
02:47:55.000 between assuming because a bad thing happens to you and you also have an identity whether you're
02:48:01.380 black asian lgbtq woman some people assume bad thing happened to me therefore it happened to me
02:48:08.720 because I am part of that group.
02:48:11.800 So the definition here is racism, and this is my definition.
02:48:16.680 This is the definition that's been the case for pretty much since the word existed.
02:48:21.620 Racism is prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race.
02:48:28.220 And they add on here, based on the belief that one's own race is superior,
02:48:33.500 I don't even necessarily think that end part is requisite or necessary.
02:48:38.720 You're changing it now.
02:48:40.420 You can change definitions, but I can't, Brian.
02:48:42.760 The central definition here is, so my belief is for something to be racist, I don't think you necessarily have to believe that your race is superior.
02:48:55.160 I don't think that's a component, a necessary requisite for something being racist.
02:49:02.440 like i think if you you could like hate because based on the belief that one's own race is
02:49:09.000 superior so like what if you're like asian but you think white people are superior but you're
02:49:14.020 asian and you really dislike black people is that and like is that now not a racist trope even
02:49:20.460 though you think another race besides your own is superior or how about this like what if you think 0.95
02:49:26.000 the other like the outgroup race is superior but you harbor like significant resentment
02:49:31.460 is your racism now not legitimate so i reject look you you got me on the technicality i pulled
02:49:38.820 up a ai overview definition that scuffed the whole thing let me do an actual merriam webster 0.52
02:49:44.720 let me go to an actual dictionary the ai screwed me i'll go to merriam webster and i'll just do
02:49:51.900 racism watch it screws me again a belief that that race is a fundamental well this is somewhat
02:49:59.300 different fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce
02:50:04.460 an inherent superiority of a particular race well that's 1a 1a b behavior or attitudes that reflect
02:50:12.120 and foster this belief discrimination prejudice or violence against people because of their race
02:50:18.340 not based on that definition you it would be correct but i believe that's the under but that's
02:50:27.000 the well understood definition there are if you if you google it it says that some people only
02:50:31.940 support institutional racism like it's not something i'm just making up it's literally
02:50:35.360 like a whole ideology okay okay going back to you so wait in your case though white person
02:50:42.540 punches black person racist or not racist white no not no hate crime still though if they punch 0.96
02:50:49.380 them because they're black still hate crime now can um can black people be racist in any context 0.99
02:50:54.820 yeah if i don't hire someone because they're white or another race you have the power okay 0.99
02:51:01.780 you're consistent i would say not in america not in america let me propose a hypothetical
02:51:06.600 barack obama say when he was president so the united states is the most powerful country
02:51:12.520 in the world. The United States is the richest country in the world. The United States
02:51:16.640 has the most prosperity in the world. The United States has the most powerful military in the
02:51:21.400 world. The United States projects massive amounts of soft and hard power throughout the entire
02:51:27.140 world. The United States has the most influence in the entire world. Barack Obama is a black man
02:51:35.060 At the time he was president, the president is the leader of the United States. 0.97
02:51:42.300 He is the top executive, top authority.
02:51:45.380 He's the commander-in-chief of the United States military in totality.
02:51:49.940 Arguably, the United States president at any given time is the most powerful person in the world.
02:51:55.720 Barack Obama, during his presidency, say as a hypothetical, this didn't actually happen, it's hypothetical, 0.55
02:52:01.280 Say he refused to hire a low-class white janitor simply because this man was white.
02:52:12.020 Does that meet your...
02:52:13.660 Is that racist for you? 0.79
02:52:17.120 It's a bad hypothetical for me because Barack Obama's mixed.
02:52:21.640 He's black and white.
02:52:22.960 Would it be rude to call him the N-word?
02:52:25.000 Huh?
02:52:25.340 Would it be offensive to call him the N-word?
02:52:27.420 Yes.
02:52:27.780 okay so i understand he's mixed but many many um black people who are mixed still identify as
02:52:37.900 african-american i don't and black yeah but in his autobiography he actually identifies with
02:52:43.340 both because especially because he was raised by his mother okay i think that's okay if you're
02:52:47.280 mixed race to have identify with both but you still identify with black and with white but you
02:52:54.900 identify with black so are you is it your position barack obama was not a black is not a black man 0.53
02:53:02.080 um no i'm just saying he identifies with both and that's okay but you're trying this is so pedantic
02:53:09.020 um it just wasn't a good was he was barack obama the first african-american president of the united
02:53:16.580 states yes okay great now that we have established that would it be racist for him to not want to
02:53:22.920 hire a white janitor because that white janitor is white oh i'll go with prejudice then just to
02:53:29.840 be clear so i'm meeting your definition of of racism power plus prejudice so does barack obama
02:53:38.200 have or uh have or not have power i understand you're um because of the definition when we
02:53:46.680 talked about power so i get what you're getting yeah i'm i'm by the way i reject that definition
02:53:51.140 but using your own definition racism equals prejudice plus power you don't think that that
02:53:57.680 would be racist it would just be a hard level for me because i'm going back the systemics
02:54:02.980 well hold on so do you think the united states government is a system yes do you think that
02:54:12.940 barack obama has is the do you think barack obama has um power over the system no
02:54:24.500 the president of the united states the executive branch of the united states government he doesn't
02:54:34.400 have power over his own government i mean we have checks and balances we also have the mindset of
02:54:39.280 so donald trump doesn't have power either there's a lot of investors so if donald trump refused to
02:54:44.420 hire a black person then this would not be like systemic racism obviously i'm gonna fall on a
02:54:49.760 very different oh okay interesting you know what's racist in and of itself thinking that white people
02:54:56.560 can't experience racism or that people of color can't be racist like in and of itself it's kind
02:55:01.740 of racist i'm confused though i meet your definition barack obama had lots of power
02:55:08.440 refuses to hire a white person that's prejudice power plus prejudice equals racism
02:55:15.360 that was the definition i was kind of agreeing with when we talked about that specific definition
02:55:21.980 of power but obviously my systemic views is a lot different i'll let you come in in just a sec
02:55:28.560 one final question on this okay um well a few more but i'll do one then i'll let you go
02:55:32.960 say that there do you think that there are black owned businesses out there yes there's black
02:55:39.060 like and some of them are like super like big corporations that are black owned yes okay so 0.60
02:55:46.620 and many of these black executives are pretty wealthy and they make good money because they're 0.71
02:55:51.740 in charge of and part of the um you know they're executives for like multi-million billion dollar
02:55:58.740 companies, right? Let's say, and again, this is hypothetical. Let's say they're like, you know
02:56:03.880 what? We're not going to hire white people at this company. And so they would refuse to hire 0.94
02:56:10.160 people, white people from a lower socioeconomic class, janitors, secretaries, et cetera, 0.93
02:56:20.420 because they're white. Would that be racism? It's a very hostile viewpoint and I don't
02:56:26.500 necessarily agree with it but i'm saying that derives from systemic racism and not directly
02:56:32.400 racism itself our businesses systems like let's say you have headquarters in like 10 states
02:56:37.400 you have you have institutional you have systemic it meets your definition bro okay no still no i
02:56:45.720 get your viewpoint i get where you're trying to come from not racist i'm just coming from a past
02:56:50.620 viewpoint and you're coming from like a current viewpoint and i think that's where we're not
02:56:54.480 aligning well we're definitely not aligning right so not racist though prejudice prejudice you wanted
02:56:59.920 to come in i think that um maybe it's not so much the having power but the belief of superiority
02:57:07.600 is kind of and that's written into the definition does that make sense so that's where the difference
02:57:13.240 between prejudice and racism comes in so i do see your point does that make sense oh you agree with
02:57:19.140 her um no but i see what she's saying and that um that doesn't necessarily mean that you know
02:57:26.440 let's say like a black person treats a white person badly because um they're white and solely
02:57:34.180 because they're white i think the missing element is that there's no belief of that their race is
02:57:39.100 superior it's because of prejudice does that make sense and that doesn't justify the behavior i
02:57:43.780 I don't think that it's...
02:57:45.100 Wait, you don't think there's black supremacists? 0.95
02:57:48.260 That would be racism, yeah, in that case.
02:57:51.380 But if it's hostility and prejudice, then no, I don't.
02:57:54.760 And what I mean by that, though, is that just because it's based on prejudice and hostility doesn't make it right.
02:58:01.940 It's just because someone treats you a certain way and you treat them back that way doesn't make you both wrong.
02:58:06.840 It's wrong in either case.
02:58:08.640 We can do that.
02:58:09.460 Does that make sense?
02:58:10.640 Not really.
02:58:11.340 If somebody were to break into your house and you trip them and beat them up, who's wrong?
02:58:15.820 Kind of like, that's the militant version of what you just said.
02:58:18.600 Like, if somebody breaks into your home and you beat them up and hurt them, then who's wrong if they committed the offense against you?
02:58:24.760 That's not what I'm saying.
02:58:25.980 Okay.
02:58:27.540 So, how about this?
02:58:30.500 So, I know you're talking in the United States.
02:58:32.000 Say, like, Nigeria, which is, like, obviously black people have, hold all institutional and systemic power in Nigeria. 0.93
02:58:41.180 Let's say like a white person goes to Nigeria and they're like, you know what, we don't want to like allow you into politics. 0.98
02:58:46.600 We don't want to hire you. We don't want to do X, Y, Z. You're going to be treated differently. 0.83
02:58:50.880 Would that be racism?
02:58:51.980 So you're saying like a white American's going or are you just saying a white person in general?
02:58:55.740 Sure. White person could be European, could be Russian, could be American.
02:59:02.440 Somehow there's a white person in Nigeria. I'm sure there's some of them.
02:59:05.260 uh do you think racism towards white people can exist in nigeria oh that's a little harder because
02:59:14.120 i would i would have to fall under prejudice just from what i know about africa and what
02:59:19.420 there has been a lot of just differences between white and black africans and i think that also
02:59:27.000 falls alongside some something that's more systemic there's a robust white population of
02:59:32.820 like ex-colonialists in nigeria no i know that they're the minority group within that but i'm
02:59:39.680 saying there is a systemic level that still happens so africans in almost all african countries
02:59:47.240 control the government have power are the majority in those countries
02:59:52.620 and you think even in those countries they can't be racist so black people just across
03:00:02.640 the board can't be racist from your perspective i'm not saying we would have to talk about a
03:00:06.100 different country obviously i have just i don't know particularly what happens in the continent
03:00:10.340 africa but i'm saying that from what i've heard there's some you don't know what happens
03:00:15.160 there's many countries in africa right right
03:00:19.140 now if excluding like some north north african countries where they're like
03:00:26.620 they're not black but uh they're you know like arabic or whatever so we're excluding like
03:00:33.180 egypt and yeah like egypt algeria um what's um algeria morocco like the north african countries
03:00:42.260 right we'd exclude them um like the vast majority of countries that are in africa they're they're 0.64
03:00:47.960 black right um and by the way there are countries in africa that were not touched at all by the 0.90
03:00:56.420 evil white man there are countries in africa there was no colon i'm i'm blanking i don't know 0.98
03:01:01.560 if it was like eritrea fuck what's the what's the country in africa that had like no colonial 0.99
03:01:07.540 colonialism liberia are you sure about that i'm not i'm not sure about that but um it's okay 0.98
03:01:15.720 no country in africa can a white person experience racism
03:01:21.740 i'm gonna fall under prejudice from what i know from the political system are you trolling or
03:01:28.380 this is actually why would i be trolling i'm here to give my opinion 0.95
03:01:32.160 black people in an say there's an a country in africa that's all black 0.96
03:01:42.100 they don't have systemic black people don't have systemic power in african countries i get you 0.94
03:01:51.620 what you're saying now no answer the question you're talking specifically about one particular
03:01:55.260 country and i was thinking of i'm talking about like a whole yeah i'm speaking about specific
03:02:01.200 countries within africa yeah i know you're trying to dive into one specific country there's many
03:02:06.760 there's many countries in africa no i where black people can be racist okay
03:02:11.960 okay oh my god so yes let's narrow in i'm giving she thinks i'm giving one example as if it's like
03:02:23.560 the only country where black people can be racist i think we have to move away from africa if you're 0.98
03:02:30.200 trying to test my logic no we have to stay in africa fucking wakanda forever to test your logic 0.99
03:02:36.680 So, can somebody in the chat tell me the country where there was no colonialism? 0.92
03:02:47.220 Somebody in the chat tell me, what is the African country where there's African country, no colonialism?
03:02:55.160 Because she's going to just like, even countries where there was colonialism? 0.54
03:02:59.320 Ethiopia and Liberia, you were correct.
03:03:01.760 Okay, Ethiopia. 0.94
03:03:03.800 Ethiopia. 0.98
03:03:04.200 can black people in ethiopia be racist against white people let's say prejudice 0.93
03:03:11.340 bro you i don't understand i've literally walked you through your own logic here 0.55
03:03:16.800 i get your logic i'm just thinking of africa as a whole and how systemically it's affected 0.96
03:03:22.680 what the fuck bro we're talking about ethiopia not africa as a whole but even africa as a whole 0.81
03:03:27.820 what ethiopians were not part of the american slave trade they were actually enslaved by arabs 0.99
03:03:33.300 and they were freed from slavery by the Catholic Church.
03:03:36.360 W, Catholic Church. 0.98
03:03:38.060 Let's go.
03:03:38.880 We're curious.
03:03:39.740 Okay.
03:03:41.180 Explain it to me.
03:03:43.340 I feel like I already did.
03:03:46.840 I don't have any...
03:03:48.600 Honestly, you should lose your right to vote.
03:03:50.440 I honestly...
03:03:51.480 You should lose your right to vote.
03:03:52.660 This is actually crazy. 0.99
03:03:55.980 So only white people can be racist. 0.96
03:03:58.420 In America.
03:04:03.300 do you do you realize how you sound i realize how i sound to you and i get that my logic is not
03:04:09.700 inherently corresponding with you and i get that you're testing my logic a certain way where i
03:04:14.600 can't necessarily say yes or no but i do have a certain opinion on it of where i'm coming from
03:04:20.200 but you give me a definition you've given me a definition of racism and i meet your definition
03:04:28.440 of racism. You mean it in a different way from where I would see it. If a certain country has
03:04:34.180 something going on systemically, I'm going to look at things versus systemic racism and prejudice.
03:04:39.340 If we're looking at Japan or something, then I would go a certain way. What way would you go
03:04:46.480 with Japan? I would just say racism in general instead of systemic racism versus prejudice. 0.65
03:04:52.480 Hold on.
03:04:54.260 So Japanese people, you're saying Japanese people can be racist towards white people.
03:05:00.220 I'm saying they, I mean, it doesn't normally happen, so that's kind of hard to say.
03:05:07.840 How would you know that?
03:05:09.120 By the way, Asian countries, they're honestly, Asian people, no offense.
03:05:14.040 So racist. 0.92
03:05:14.540 Very racist. 0.96
03:05:15.840 By the way, racist against other Asian subgroups.
03:05:19.280 I know.
03:05:19.340 Like, the Chinese, not big fans of Koreans and Japanese. 0.99
03:05:24.000 We all hate each other. 0.99
03:05:24.660 It's real. 1.00
03:05:25.440 Japanese, not big fans of other. 0.91
03:05:27.100 Like, so even among the different Asian subgroups.
03:05:30.940 Yeah, and they're racist against other groups that are not Asian as well.
03:05:33.780 Yes, they're against. 0.97
03:05:34.340 My family is crazy.
03:05:35.520 Yeah, so. 0.60
03:05:37.660 Sorry.
03:05:38.360 So, the question, by the way, it's a great fallacy you did there.
03:05:43.140 The question is not about the frequency.
03:05:45.020 You know what?
03:05:45.400 Let's just grant.
03:05:46.120 In the history of all Japan, only one Japanese person has ever been harbored racism towards a white person.
03:05:53.880 The question is not about frequency.
03:05:57.300 The question is about, is it possible?
03:06:00.640 Now, I would contest your claims as to, you said, well, it doesn't happen very often.
03:06:04.360 Totally contest it. 1.00
03:06:05.800 I think the Japanese are probably super xenophobic and honestly kind of good for them. 1.00
03:06:11.820 Like, I think Japan should stay Japan. 1.00
03:06:13.760 I don't think Japan should be fucking importing, like, basically lose their entire people and culture. 0.98
03:06:21.580 That aside, how, okay, so Japanese people can't be racist towards white people. 0.99
03:06:31.840 That's so, just, I need, just give me a yes or no.
03:06:34.840 Highly unlikely, but it can happen.
03:06:35.820 Huh?
03:06:36.220 It's highly unlikely to happen, but it can happen.
03:06:37.900 It's highly likely, but, okay, well, I'm not going to debate you on frequency, but it's possible is what you're saying.
03:06:43.120 Sure, 0.001% possible.
03:06:45.880 Where would your evidence be for this?
03:06:47.920 Political underscore overtones donated $100.
03:06:51.740 We kind of nuked them twice.
03:06:53.860 There's got to be a few that ain't liking the white man.
03:06:57.120 Well, you know what, though?
03:06:58.160 To be fair, Japan and America actually has a pretty, all things considered, has a pretty good diplomatic relationship.
03:07:07.480 So that's kind of cool.
03:07:08.940 But, yeah, they probably, like, there's also some historical tension there, too.
03:07:14.580 I haven't seen it, like, fully affected them, to be honest.
03:07:17.400 I mean, they still come to America for higher education, and I haven't seen it, like, necessarily affected.
03:07:22.540 I mean, you're kind of right.
03:07:23.900 Like, obviously, yeah, the two nuke bombs, kind of a big deal.
03:07:27.520 But, like, Japan's kind of like, you know, we're allies.
03:07:32.900 They're nicer than we are, I guess.
03:07:35.020 They're more forgiving than we are.
03:07:36.260 yeah i mean the the super chat's right she keeps moving the goalposts um can japanese be racist
03:07:42.820 towards black people yes can japanese be racist towards chinese yes 0.73
03:07:50.500 d 0.51
03:07:54.340 but they just not white people i i mean i said highly unlikely but can happen so i guess
03:08:03.840 that would fall into the same logic just a little bit different oh my god you gotta lose your right
03:08:09.080 to vote i'm sorry this is actually crazy um oh boy okay uh i don't know what else you wrote here 0.84
03:08:16.480 um if somebody believes that so if a white person believes that they are superior to black people
03:08:23.680 but they don't commit any racist acts so would just their belief of superiority make them racist
03:08:29.180 like if they think like black people are responsible for bad things in the country
03:08:32.460 well i think that's a different so that's a different claim a little bit um so i think you
03:08:38.000 can like look at statistics like for example um asian people commit less crimes than white people
03:08:43.900 or asian people commit less certain crimes uh as compared to black people so like i think purely
03:08:49.620 like having an understanding of crime statistics wouldn't inherently make you racist but if you
03:08:55.900 want to demonize like the entire group because like a higher statistical likelihood of criminality 0.62
03:09:03.100 that would be racist political underscore overtones donated 100 she hates white people 0.83
03:09:09.800 whatever logic allows her to be racist and not get called on it will move the goalposts so long 0.95
03:09:15.740 as she has no accountability yeah man it's wild um it's actually crazy like most people will like
03:09:23.680 who take the racism equals prejudice plus power will at least concede like well okay in the heart 0.99
03:09:31.540 of africa they control the government they're fucking warlords and shit some of them like 1.00
03:09:38.120 will there's actually like it's actually dangerous to be like a black albino person 1.00
03:09:43.300 because like they'll literally kill you for having white skin or some shit um super racist by the way 1.00
03:09:48.480 she can't even concede when 1.00
03:09:51.140 in like an African country where 1.00
03:09:53.080 all people in government are black 1.00
03:09:55.160 when they hold all, like they have 1.00
03:09:57.140 all the power in the country 1.00
03:09:58.300 she can't even concede that a white 1.00
03:10:01.240 person could experience racism
03:10:02.920 in that context or that a black
03:10:05.120 person could be racist. It makes
03:10:07.220 zero sense in Ethiopia 0.99
03:10:09.100 that had, there was no colonial
03:10:10.840 impact on Ethiopia
03:10:12.060 if a white person
03:10:15.060 went to Ethiopia
03:10:15.940 to vacation,
03:10:18.040 well, maybe not vacation, 0.99
03:10:19.200 as a tourist or some shit. 0.99
03:10:22.420 And you know what? 0.97
03:10:23.840 They're like, 0.99
03:10:24.420 oh, the white devil, 1.00
03:10:26.020 I will skin this man alive. 1.00
03:10:28.520 The fuck is that? 1.00
03:10:29.560 That was like some Jamaican shit. 1.00
03:10:30.980 I don't know the fuck that one. 1.00
03:10:32.940 Everything, 1.00
03:10:33.380 everything irie, man.
03:10:36.000 That's Jamaican. 0.98
03:10:38.020 Hey, man. 0.98
03:10:39.180 Everything irie. 0.99
03:10:41.340 Wagwan. 1.00
03:10:42.260 See, that's Jamaican. 1.00
03:10:43.220 That's definitely not Ethiopia. 0.88
03:10:44.440 That aside, 0.96
03:10:45.940 um, she won't even grant that like a white person getting skinned in Ethiopia and they kill this 0.99
03:10:53.180 person because they're white. Well, you said albino. Well, that was a separate example. I'm 0.99
03:10:58.140 saying a white, like an actual white person, some like, you know, you know, these like kind of 1.00
03:11:02.700 these white women who like go to dangerous places and don't expect bad things to happen. Oh, I'm, 0.75
03:11:08.820 I'm going to solo travel in like the rural parts of India. And I'm definitely not going to,
03:11:13.940 oh my god bro holy shit um yeah you know um i think if she if a white person goes to ethiopia 0.99
03:11:24.880 travels there and they like capture them and they're like it is the white devil and they 1.00
03:11:30.500 fucking skin them because they're white and kill them yeah that's racist is it racist 1.00
03:11:34.240 no guys no guys um you know what when like an entire group of black people is saying what 1.00
03:11:43.880 devil and um skins them and kills them and it's the entire country is black people it's not racism 0.98
03:11:52.120 wake up donated 100 dollars she's saying this out loud there's many more that think this way 0.99
03:11:58.580 internally wake up people the days of extending goodwill in hopes things will change are over
03:12:04.500 they operate on tribalism to the end
03:12:07.260 oh my god
03:12:09.200 it's over boys 0.96
03:12:11.920 I'm so black pilled on everything 0.74
03:12:14.400 it's over boys 0.99
03:12:15.780 enjoy the decline
03:12:17.260 enjoy the decline boys
03:12:18.920 get your money 1.00
03:12:20.620 fuck hot bitches 1.00
03:12:22.300 enjoy the fucking decline 1.00
03:12:23.840 we lost our country boys 1.00
03:12:25.600 we lost the west 1.00
03:12:27.300 it's fucking over 0.99
03:12:28.420 it's over boys 1.00
03:12:30.560 just enjoy the decline
03:12:31.560 so anyways
03:12:32.540 I don't know
03:12:34.240 I think that's it for that actually 0.99
03:12:36.140 fuck that I'm going to maybe I'll convert to Christianity 1.00
03:12:38.280 and we're going to start a fucking crusade 1.00
03:12:40.560 and we're going to fix our 0.99
03:12:42.160 country W's
03:12:44.340 in the chat Deus of Holt okay
03:12:46.260 anyways I dated 0.85
03:12:48.400 a black supremacist and
03:12:50.440 he actually is watching the show
03:12:52.580 because we argue just as many people
03:12:54.420 argue with me about my stances on racism I
03:12:56.240 actually argue with a lot of black people about
03:12:58.380 it because he believes that Charlie Kirk is racist
03:13:00.400 and I
03:13:02.260 don't believe so because I don't think that he's
03:13:04.220 done anything to hurt black people even though he may have stances that black people don't agree 0.59
03:13:08.240 with so i just wanted to say that for my but he's a black supremacist and he actually does believe 0.97
03:13:13.700 that black people are superior to white people um he does not believe that black people can be
03:13:18.700 racist to white people because um like the black militant saying it they say something like like 0.97
03:13:23.240 they basically say the white person is the perpetrator and they broke into our home and 0.91
03:13:27.380 then if we choose to beat them up after they've broken our home we're justified so that's like
03:13:31.020 a black militant stance on it um so they don't think that there's anything i can do is he like 0.96
03:13:36.580 a what do they call them black hebrew israelite he's actually a five percenter i don't know what
03:13:41.340 that is so a five percenter is a branch of the nation of islam and they refer to themselves as
03:13:45.460 the gods in earth there's not that many of them around but wu-tang clan was big five percenters 0.73
03:13:49.740 so they say god those words like that that comes from five percenters so their culture has actually 0.94
03:13:54.800 infiltrated our country but a lot of people just don't know about it do you do you think that um
03:13:59.340 black people are superior i'm not a supremacist no but do you think they're superior no okay i
03:14:06.540 think we're all equal i'm just saying i agree we're all equal okay we're all equal uh all right
03:14:11.820 next next topic uh let's go around the table what is the dating talk dating question what is the
03:14:17.500 minimum yearly income to be your future husband starting with you 150 150 150 okay what about you
03:14:25.060 I said 75
03:14:26.460 okay whatever it takes to support yourself
03:14:29.340 but I mean
03:14:31.020 you know I think you do pretty well right
03:14:33.060 with your work I don't care what they make
03:14:35.080 I just don't want to pay for anything
03:14:36.280 that's not mine I'll pay for myself
03:14:39.220 you pay for yourself I'm not going to worry about it
03:14:40.660 but I mean that would necessitate
03:14:42.040 I mean I would imagine you would also want to
03:14:44.880 you pay for I understand
03:14:46.960 you pay for your stuff he pays for his
03:14:48.720 but I assume if you like partner up with somebody
03:14:51.000 you'd want the lifestyle to be
03:14:53.200 comparable is that fair to say
03:14:54.620 my lifestyle wouldn't change uh well like would you live with a partner sure well but like say
03:15:04.660 you out earn him he wouldn't be able to like same percentage right so let's say he earns x dollars
03:15:09.860 and i earn y percentage i'm not saying match me half of the rent you know so you would pay more
03:15:15.120 than 50 no i'm saying like if he pays like okay so the rent is x dollars and it costs me
03:15:23.720 15 percent of my paycheck then it should be 15 percent of his paycheck does that make sense
03:15:29.420 i think that's fair so okay if the rent is a thousand you pay 500 and he pays 500 no i would
03:15:38.120 pay more because i earn more the 50 like if i earn yeah it'd be like 15 percent of my income
03:15:43.280 and 15 percent of his and we would yeah okay yeah yeah right well you say it doesn't matter but i
03:15:49.920 would i would maybe suspect you wouldn't date a guy who works at mcdonald's i have well you have
03:15:55.480 like okay i mean yeah actually oh yeah we legit don't care but like for example like a girl say
03:16:02.940 like a 30 year old high-powered attorney when she was in college like she dated a guy who worked
03:16:08.080 at walmart done it right but like now that she's a high-powered attorney and she's making a bunch
03:16:13.640 of money just because she's she she can say just like you said well i have dated a guy who works
03:16:18.600 at walmart i would suspect for a woman who's an attorney that's not her first choice now i don't
03:16:24.920 think that the income plays into it for me sure doesn't matter okay what about you uh 50k all
03:16:30.840 right what about you um i say equal to or greater than myself because i've been in relationships
03:16:35.920 where that's not the dynamic and the gentleman does not enjoy himself and it's not a happy ending
03:16:40.600 okay uh what about you i put 10k really yes because i've been married before i am married
03:16:49.660 okay tatum um if i were not in sex work i would say more than me but i think that being a sex
03:16:55.700 worker kind of inflates it on one side of the equation okay next 70k unless they own and unless
03:17:02.740 they owned a house then i would settle for them making like 50 or 40 if they had a house paid
03:17:06.740 I would say $70,000 depending on if I'm a stay-at-home mom
03:17:13.980 or if I'm actually working, probably less if I'm actually working.
03:17:18.060 All right.
03:17:18.640 Okay.
03:17:20.460 It doesn't matter as long as they put in effort on learning how to make an income
03:17:25.400 and they're not just lazy at home.
03:17:27.500 Yeah, that's good.
03:17:28.020 All right.
03:17:28.320 Everybody pretty reasonable there.
03:17:32.480 um kaylee says 150k but like orthodox study she'll be fine um so sorry joke nobody okay
03:17:42.060 all right uh she'll be good she'll i don't not my first language i don't know what you're not
03:17:48.260 you'll be fine i i i think you'll uh i think you'll find 150k is not too crazy um you'll
03:17:56.260 probably i think you'll find a guy la 70s like poverty right it's a good point that's very true
03:18:03.900 it's government statistics or whatever it is uh okay uh how tall are you and what's the minimum
03:18:11.740 height you would date and then tell me tell me the height of the last three partners
03:18:18.240 5'4", and for now, minimum would be 5'7", but my last two X's were 5'6".
03:18:28.240 Okay, got it. What about you?
03:18:31.240 I'm 5'6". I think the minimum would be 5'10".
03:18:38.240 and my last three exes i think they were like two of them were six feet and one of them was
03:18:48.020 i want to say five ten five nine you wrote six four here oh that's right yeah sorry six four
03:18:55.420 yeah okay what about you i'm five four and uh my height is good like if you but the caveat with
03:19:02.000 that is that um you can be my height but you better bring some vibes the vibes gotta be so 0.88
03:19:07.840 by vibes you mean good dick sure but other ways too other ways too yeah i gotta enjoy being around 0.90
03:19:15.760 you so your height becomes okay and you so you said it doesn't matter but hold on dwarf 0.97
03:19:22.360 5-4 5-4 i'm 5-4 no you're you're 5-4 oh so well okay so your height or above
03:19:28.800 you wouldn't date um five one okay next uh five nine um six four five seven and five ten
03:19:40.640 uh five sevens probably the lowest I go but I do love my short kings got it next I'm five foot two
03:19:48.000 my last three boyfriends were six foot five five foot eight five foot eleven and I have no high
03:19:54.120 preference it is it's like vibes and chemistry that's i can strongly agree what about you i'm
03:20:00.260 five nine i've only dated people shorter than me i only prefer short kings my last was five nine
03:20:07.360 um five seven and five four what's the minimum height um like the you would sorry
03:20:14.000 like the did you write the shortest minimum male height you would date no i put five what does
03:20:21.460 that look like to you? Four. Oh, oops. Maybe you meant five. Yeah, as short as I would go, probably
03:20:27.500 five foot. All right. Tell me, how tall are you, the minimum male height you would date, and height
03:20:32.540 of last three partners? I'm 5'3. I think 5'5 would be the minimum, just because I like to wear little
03:20:39.540 heels sometimes. And my ex-husband was 5'7, and then the two guys before that were like six feet
03:20:46.800 and six one okay next i'm five two um i think i would date a little person but for regular people
03:20:53.900 i wouldn't want to date anyone under five six um and i say that but i only end up with people
03:20:59.260 over six feet because me and shorter guys argue more sure next yeah wait did you list the last
03:21:07.640 three um six five mike mike mike mike mike six five six two and i think five nine
03:21:15.960 gotcha gotcha wait can i have you you two switch chairs really quick it's just don't worry about
03:21:23.720 it you two switch chairs um oh wait you give your answer and then i'll once they switch i will switch
03:21:30.720 I'm 5'10", and...
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03:21:55.460 I like that noise.
03:21:57.920 So, sorry, did you get to go?
03:21:59.520 I was in the middle of it. I'm 5'10", and they were, like, in my height, an inch or two taller than me.
03:22:08.320 I don't really mind height as long as they have a good character, but it does feel nice when they're taller.
03:22:13.980 Okay. And then going to you?
03:22:17.360 Rizal. Mine might be a little silly when I say this answer, but anyway, I'm 5'3".
03:22:22.500 The shortest I would date is 5'0". The shortest I have dated is 5'2".
03:22:27.460 Um, but my last three X's was six foot four or six foot three or something like that.
03:22:32.580 Six foot one and six foot seven.
03:22:35.440 Got it.
03:22:36.180 Okay.
03:22:37.540 And, uh, let's see, hold on one sec.
03:22:42.280 Uh, one sec.
03:22:48.260 Okay.
03:22:49.780 Uh, I need to step away for just a moment.
03:22:53.200 You guys can, uh, keep it interesting because we still have viewers. 0.67
03:22:57.140 I'll be back in like two minutes just need to use the restroom now there was obviously discussion
03:23:01.900 occurring you know prior I know some of you maybe wanted to get in on something but didn't have an
03:23:06.820 opportunity if any of you want to like go back to a previous convo you can do that so I don't know
03:23:14.280 she was saying some crazy shit about racism or whatever if anybody else want to jump in
03:23:17.820 or any other topic uh okay Gigi have fun do you want to talk I felt like you haven't talked yet 0.98
03:23:24.320 my album comes out tonight at 12
03:23:28.300 do you think short kings are sassy
03:23:32.020 you already know that's what's up 1.00
03:23:35.420 come to sherry's or to bunny ranch
03:23:39.040 and subscribe to my own fans yeah it's not what you expect
03:23:43.480 it's not what you expect submit all your ways to christ and follow jesus
03:23:47.520 also that these are two chat what do you think we should talk about
03:23:51.600 donate to my son's go fund me and help him beat cancer yes yes please you said short kings are
03:24:01.120 sassy like what specific ethnicities i haven't had that experience so um i was arguing with
03:24:07.860 somebody about their height so the guy is saying that he's 5 11 and i know for a fact that he's
03:24:13.140 got to be like 5 7 and i don't see what the big deal is and then he sends me a video on how height
03:24:18.280 doesn't matter and then now every time i talk to him i have to talk about height i feel like that's
03:24:22.480 a little sassy like why is he so worried about it like why does it matter the guy that i dated
03:24:27.060 napoleon complex the guy that i dated that was sorry i didn't mean you know okay oh yeah the
03:24:33.420 guy that i did it was five foot two and he was very masculine he's probably one of the more i
03:24:37.580 love it when they're short and they have like an attitude it was a really great personality he was
03:24:42.380 very funny so that's why it changed my opinion on like height i was like i even kind of like
03:24:47.160 incels it kind of turned me on with all the anger thank you mike the passion and the fighting
03:24:55.360 yeah it's i feel like it's different for me because i'm from san antonio so obviously it's
03:25:01.000 hispanic majority and so a lot of our men are shorter and so i'm a filipinos yeah i'm filipinos
03:25:07.080 my husband was filipino and so he was shorter so it was i felt like they never lied about it because
03:25:13.140 they already know they're short well do you think because you're like more of a tall like
03:25:17.640 model tall person that they um they're like seeking you out because they're like oh because
03:25:22.700 I have this beautiful tall woman I feel taller where me being shorter they're like I want to
03:25:26.980 show you that I'm big and you're not making me feel big and they're always trying to like battle
03:25:30.240 with me mentally and that's hard to I think they were intimidated by me honestly like my husband
03:25:34.860 didn't want to date me at first because I was taller so that's kind of harder to say I think
03:25:39.540 they're intimidated but once they get to know me it's a little different obviously i went on a date
03:25:43.680 with someone who's like six seven once wow that was great guys quiet back there please go ahead
03:25:50.120 oh i was just saying i went on a date with someone who was six seven and we got coffee really nice
03:25:55.360 guy doctor and his fingers were so long and i remember the tail was too short so his legs were
03:26:02.100 just like going over the table and it was um it was an interesting how tall are you five ten oh
03:26:08.420 Okay, yeah, so I'm 5'3", and the tallest I've dated is 6'7", but, like, I went on this, like, weird, like, moment in my life.
03:26:15.880 I was, like, early 20s.
03:26:17.760 I dated a guy that was 6'6", 6'6", and 6'7", and then one day we went on a date, and we went, I think we went to Universal City Walk or whatever,
03:26:26.920 and there was these massive, in one of the store's massive, like, ceiling, tall mirrors.
03:26:32.800 I was like, dang, I look like a little girl next to him.
03:26:35.180 Like, he looks like he's my dad.
03:26:36.520 Then I was just like, I don't know if I want to take somebody that way.
03:26:39.720 All right.
03:26:42.680 Do you have any disagreements with the show slash host?
03:26:45.860 If so, what?
03:26:49.340 No.
03:26:50.160 First two chairs, no, no.
03:26:56.040 Let's see.
03:26:58.640 Wait.
03:26:59.200 Oh, no.
03:26:59.680 That's for KT.
03:27:02.440 You have disagreements about virginity.
03:27:05.020 Yeah.
03:27:05.460 his awful what like if essentially like let's say you wait till marriage right to lose your virginity
03:27:15.260 yeah and then what happens if you have an awful experience with him and you're still having an
03:27:22.140 awful experience and who knows it could be disagreements in the marriage it could be
03:27:29.080 are you talking about sex yeah like like so it like so the guy's bad and could be bad in bed
03:27:37.500 they could just not be compatible just like mentally like on a mental physical level right
03:27:43.600 because you have to have some kind of like level of intimacy yeah can you straighten the mic so
03:27:47.980 it's pointing straight at you and then if it if it's you know straight in the mic so it's like
03:27:52.720 all right
03:27:55.840 go ahead continue
03:27:59.700 so if you know like if you're having a bad time with this person you're never going to
03:28:07.500 be able to be compatible with them and then you could have an awful marriage and an awful
03:28:12.900 experience okay um may i say something sure yeah
03:28:21.680 Can I have you scoot into the table?
03:28:24.220 Yes, absolutely. Sorry. There's just five of us in a corner here.
03:28:27.000 Yeah, I understand. 1.00
03:28:28.500 Yeah, well, roughly 75% of marriages are sexless.
03:28:32.940 So that is a fact.
03:28:35.880 Okay, but so, hold on.
03:28:37.460 You said that your disagreement with the show slash host is about virginity.
03:28:44.740 Yeah.
03:28:48.800 So... 0.72
03:28:49.240 Just like sex, but like... 0.98
03:28:51.260 Okay, hold on. Is it possible that somebody has had sex with like 10 people and they're also bad in bed? 0.94
03:28:57.640 For sure, yeah.
03:28:58.260 Okay, so your criticism is with someone who's bad in bed, not necessarily virginity. 1.00
03:29:03.660 No, because virginity is a painful thing for a woman anyways. 0.60
03:29:09.520 So the woman's bad in bed then because she's a virgin? 1.00
03:29:13.380 No, it's painful.
03:29:15.160 so if you if you don't have the correct intimacy with somebody you're sharing that memory with
03:29:21.700 them so you're sharing a painful memory with somebody that that may not respect you may not
03:29:27.200 love you or cherish you but so what is the disagreement though what specifically have
03:29:33.360 has i have i said or the show has said about virginity i'm confused i thought okay do you
03:29:40.260 have any disagreements with the show hosts if so what to rich to which you wrote i thought i thought
03:29:46.200 i thought that you um didn't like agree with sex before marriage that's not my position okay that
03:29:53.540 that that's my fault i mean i'm happy i misinterpreted that i i apologize i'm i mean
03:29:58.540 i'm sort of happy to like engage with that though but um but yeah i mean i'm fine with premarital
03:30:05.660 sex. Okay. First off, I don't know why I thought that. I think sex should happen like as quick as 0.65
03:30:10.540 possible to be honest. Oh, okay. Like it's a fucking retarded to wait. Okay. And if they need 0.98
03:30:16.940 something, it comes to me. Sorry. I shouldn't say, I should clarify. Um, so I don't have a problem
03:30:22.740 with like other people if they have boundaries or they want to, uh, they want to wait until
03:30:27.680 marriage. I shouldn't say it's retarded. I think, um, other people are fine if they want to wait 0.72
03:30:32.960 until marriage, good for them. That's totally fine. Um, I personally, as someone who doesn't
03:30:38.220 want to get married period, um, and like, I'm probably not going to be dating. I'm not opposed
03:30:45.440 to dating a woman who's a virgin, but I'm also not likely to be dating. Like, look, if they want 0.93
03:30:50.640 to date me, okay, fine. But most like, it's really rare to encounter like a woman who's a virgin. 0.99
03:30:57.380 so like yeah the the idea of waiting that's kind of silly i guess for from my perspective
03:31:07.160 i don't know okay but i don't think there's anything wrong like i think if you're 0.92
03:31:12.740 is your criticism like a guy who wants a woman who's a virgin and like the sex will be bad
03:31:20.120 therefore he shouldn't date a virgin not not necessarily just that i think i think again i
03:31:27.860 think it just comes back to the point that that for a woman it's just it's not a fun thing right
03:31:33.680 it's losing your virginity is it's a memory and it will always be a memory you're saying it's 0.69
03:31:39.220 associated with pain because they have to break break the hymen right well hold on i mean let's 0.75
03:31:45.240 let's not allow me to mansplain female anatomy so not all women they can be virgins not all 0.79
03:31:52.620 women are going to have a hymen if they're using like tampons or they ride horses or like 0.84
03:31:56.560 some women may not even be born with like hymen so the idea that a hymen is required for virginity 0.99
03:32:02.660 uh i don't think is uh like that's that's not true um a woman could not have a hymen and be
03:32:10.720 a virgin the hymen isn't a great uh really a great indicator um but in addition to that while
03:32:19.600 i do acknowledge that yes a woman's first time may certainly include pain um it's certainly
03:32:25.720 possible that the first time may not include pain although i'd say probably more likely than not
03:32:31.460 there will be i suppose it also depends on how big the cock is but um but if if he's just she's 0.99
03:32:39.060 she's ridden horses for fucking 10 years and there's nothing there but he's got a monster 1.00
03:32:43.860 horse cock yeah she's probably still paying even a girl who's fucked like a hundred dudes 1.00
03:32:48.080 maybe still paying maybe still paying sometimes a cock so big we got some courtesans here 1.00
03:32:54.220 they're a they're profet they're pros they're pros and there's a cock big enough to cause 0.99
03:32:59.780 them a bit of pain no pain for her yeah no pain no no i'm saying like i will not absolutely not 0.99
03:33:05.080 You'll turn down 1.00
03:33:06.880 The dick too big 1.00
03:33:08.820 There are some women 1.00
03:33:11.440 If the dick is too big 1.00
03:33:13.440 I'm a small person 1.00
03:33:14.140 You're Asian too
03:33:15.980 So yeah 1.00
03:33:17.220 Have anybody turned down your dick? 1.00
03:33:21.020 Has anyone turned down my dick? 1.00
03:33:24.600 What does that mean? 1.00
03:33:26.480 Like
03:33:26.760 She wants to know
03:33:33.120 If it's 1.00
03:33:34.480 If it's a, well, if I say no, no girls turn me down because my dick's too big. 1.00
03:33:39.420 She's going to be like, sorry, buddy, you got a small dick. 1.00
03:33:42.600 So I would say I have an average penis size, if you're curious. 1.00
03:33:46.700 I don't know if, yeah, so does that answer your question, I guess? 1.00
03:33:50.600 Has anyone turned down your pussy because it was, somebody, can somebody stop that noise? 1.00
03:33:58.380 Because too wide, too, first of all, too cavernous. 1.00
03:34:03.320 i don't think that will ever happen but i don't there's some women i don't actually go offer so 1.00
03:34:09.120 to be turned down if that makes sense wait you don't what i don't go ask like offer my pussy 0.99
03:34:16.140 to be turned down if that makes sense well i get it that guys are trying to sleep with you 0.99
03:34:21.860 but it's plausible 1.00
03:34:23.560 that say a woman did have a cavernous vagina like this thing 1.00
03:34:30.360 London tunnel right just big big cavernous like a cave like you could fit your head in there 1.00
03:34:42.020 I don't think a guy would turn down pussy ever I don't know now I think I will I'll be fair 1.00
03:34:47.840 I think loose pussy is more rare than small dick small dick more common than loose pussy 1.00
03:34:55.180 but there is loose pussy out there so i don't know where we're going with this to be honest um 1.00
03:35:02.220 well how do you know until you go into it like you couldn't be like wow that you're fingers hands 0.99
03:35:08.060 oh and look i've been very lucky with the women i've dated but i have encountered one or two
03:35:13.420 where i was like whoa this i'm not gonna feel anything i'll just turn it down no i i give it
03:35:21.180 the old college try you know i i'm saying look some look you know you know maybe hey she's having
03:35:29.400 a bad day you can't you got to still you know give it a shot maybe something's going on maybe
03:35:34.680 she's i don't know it also can mean she's very turned on if she's like very opening up so that
03:35:40.120 is true it does open up a bit the more turned on she is but there's degrees okay tatum okay there's 0.97
03:35:48.240 agrees to this and it's like well she's just you know how women go like do the little this thing 0.86
03:35:56.760 or y'all that's the sign it's rare though but i chat have you ever encountered a 1.00
03:36:06.240 cavernous vagina yeah yeah um i don't know how we got to that though we're talking about virginity 1.00
03:36:15.580 We're talking about virginity. 0.99
03:36:17.100 I have a story.
03:36:18.320 Oh, my God.
03:36:19.240 Sure, yeah.
03:36:20.000 I don't have a story about virginity, but a story about the city.
03:36:23.980 So I'm from Chicago.
03:36:25.460 Well, I'm from Texas, but I live in Chicago now.
03:36:28.180 And the other day, I see this homeless guy in the corner, and he was just shaking, and I thought he was really sad.
03:36:34.860 So I was like, oh, I don't have any food or anything to give him.
03:36:37.740 But I had, I think I had some flowers and, like, a scripture card.
03:36:40.900 And I was like, I'll just give this over to him, and I'll pray for him, and then just hear me out.
03:36:44.940 And then so I start walking across the street.
03:36:47.440 He wasn't shaking.
03:36:49.380 His pee-pee was hanging towards the street, and he was just peeing in front of everyone.
03:36:55.280 And I just thought that was an interesting thing.
03:36:56.740 Yeah, it's like a typical Chicago day.
03:36:59.100 It was very strange.
03:37:00.180 Does that happen to you guys over here?
03:37:02.300 Like, do people do that all the time?
03:37:03.540 Los Angeles.
03:37:04.260 It's the second time I've seen it.
03:37:05.660 I was at the beach.
03:37:06.900 This was probably a year ago at the beach here in Santa Barbara.
03:37:10.900 And worse than peeing, there was a homeless dude jerking it. 0.96
03:37:16.100 Jerking it. 0.98
03:37:17.700 And you know what?
03:37:18.300 I took a look.
03:37:19.360 I took a look.
03:37:23.740 Good for him.
03:37:25.380 Not for jerking it. 1.00
03:37:26.380 He had a big dick. 1.00
03:37:28.100 It was large. 1.00
03:37:30.000 It's unfortunate that God gives the big dicks to the homeless men. 1.00
03:37:34.820 The homeless dudes are always fucking packing. 1.00
03:37:39.540 well that sounds super gay but homeless dudes god blesses the homeless and like you know us like 0.99
03:37:46.400 ambitious successful men we just get like an average one you know maybe that's why you're 0.99
03:37:51.400 the lord the lord giveth and the lord taketh away but yeah so he had a fucking tank on that on it 0.89
03:37:58.440 but you know i want i you know i i didn't know what to do is the first time i saw a homeless 0.99
03:38:02.800 person masturbating and um i was like i felt violated i felt violated i was like whoa here's
03:38:12.460 i'm i'm on an innocent beach walk just enjoying the sun and the weather and i'm like putting my 0.99
03:38:18.420 feet in the the the ocean and the sand i look to my left it's just like a guy fucking vision and 0.99
03:38:25.940 he was it wasn't like a gentle jerk it was like a no it was like a aggressive like he's gotta bust 0.99
03:38:34.640 a nut type of jerk and i was like yo bro dude that's crazy but yeah um but i had to leave so 0.98
03:38:44.380 i was like i don't i don't want to call the cops because i gotta leave like i don't want to and 0.99
03:38:48.920 then like i go to this beach all the time they're probably gonna they're not even gonna arrest the 0.95
03:38:52.800 guy they'll just fucking and then they're gonna be like that's the guy who fucking narked on me 0.98
03:38:57.200 for masturbating at the beach and i'm gonna get stabbed so i was like do i really want to report 0.99
03:39:02.360 this to the police like i don't want to get stabbed anyways whatever so i'm sorry i'm sorry 0.94
03:39:08.100 my friend found out she was dating a guy that masturbates in public to make people upset the
03:39:14.700 police like came to our house and they're like is this your car and she's like why and they're
03:39:19.060 like well i need to wait till like the guy gets home and that was why because he was following
03:39:23.260 around women and doing that and the cops were looking for him and she just like had to find
03:39:28.220 that out she's like i'm dating a guy that does that and i didn't even know yikes okay um but
03:39:33.120 virginity um so your whole thing is because they're virgin for for the woman it might be painful or
03:39:44.200 whether it's a man or a woman, they will be bad in bed, maybe. 0.91
03:39:51.880 So the bad in bed thing, I think that it's really hard to be bad in bed as a woman. 0.99
03:39:58.620 Like, it's really hard.
03:40:01.480 Now, this depends, though, if they're both virgins.
03:40:05.100 It depends a lot on the context.
03:40:06.820 But say it's a virgin woman with an experienced man.
03:40:09.800 i think that an experienced man can take an inexperienced woman a virgin woman and if he
03:40:19.320 knows how to lead and that's his he wants to be more dominant in the bedroom he can have great 0.81
03:40:25.040 sex with a woman who's inexperienced and a virgin if he knows how to lead he knows he tells her what 0.97
03:40:30.740 to do puts her in the right position you can have great sex with her on that basis uh but also 1.00
03:40:36.560 So there's a physiological basis, but I think that now I'd say these courtesans here, they'd 1.00
03:40:41.980 say, well, well, I don't know.
03:40:44.760 Maybe you guys can weigh in. 0.99
03:40:47.280 Will, I know you guys could probably like teach a guy how to fuck well or whatever, 0.99
03:40:51.660 but like how confident are you? 0.99
03:40:53.940 Like a virgin comes in and you inherently, and there's another component here because
03:41:00.040 you're like transacting, but like, and then it even calls into question, do you, well,
03:41:06.560 I guess you guys can sometimes enjoy the sex, right?
03:41:09.060 Yeah.
03:41:09.720 But then sometimes you enjoy it, and then other times maybe you don't.
03:41:13.800 Yeah. 0.99
03:41:15.620 Are you going to enjoy sex with, like, a virgin guy? 1.00
03:41:18.360 Oh, yes. 1.00
03:41:18.680 Yes, I am.
03:41:19.820 Oh, yes.
03:41:20.380 Okay.
03:41:21.820 Yes?
03:41:24.620 You've taken some?
03:41:25.460 No, no.
03:41:26.060 No?
03:41:26.280 No, not always, because it's more educational. 1.00
03:41:29.100 It's the difference between the women, because I'm going to say that for Asian culture, 0.89
03:41:33.760 we're specifically taught that if a guy is shy right it's very sweet it's very oh so in asian
03:41:42.740 culture we like a guy who's kind of shy who's kind of that indicates sensitivity so you know 0.51
03:41:47.840 i've heard white women be like he's got to be confident he's got and it's so contrary to asian
03:41:52.560 culture where it's like we are okay with like a sweet guy who's like nervous like that's a turn
03:41:57.400 on do you know i mean and like i absolutely that that's nice right so it depends on the girl but
03:42:03.240 I'm very, I'm also very aggressive. So like I'll, you know, that's a difference. Yeah. And I enjoy
03:42:08.280 being like, I would say, and it does change things a little bit just because you guys are 0.99
03:42:14.620 courtesans and you know, you work in the brothel. Um, not to, I'm not saying that your, your viewpoint
03:42:21.380 it is different. It's exceptional. It is a bit different, but I think for the typical woman,
03:42:27.020 like say the experienced woman like out in the like a civilian woman i don't think they like
03:42:35.620 they've had sex and they've had you know a couple boyfriends or whatever i don't think that typical
03:42:41.700 experienced woman woman is thrilled with the idea of being sexual with a virgin like i don't think
03:42:50.700 like civilian women a lot of older women are liking younger guys these days well so i'm not
03:42:55.840 going to say that this is I'm not going to say that I'm speaking in general like of course there's
03:43:01.320 like so forget about the age stuff yeah yeah I would say in general like the experienced woman
03:43:05.680 say like on a on average the experienced woman is probably more same age and he's a virgin and
03:43:12.240 she's not and she's been like they're 25 and she's like I don't probably not I don't think 0.86
03:43:16.160 it's really a turn-on for a woman to like take the initiator role which is going to be somewhat 0.98
03:43:21.220 somewhat most likely necessitated 1.00
03:43:24.020 if the other person is inexperienced
03:43:25.960 or a virgin. Most
03:43:27.420 civilian women, 0.83
03:43:29.580 general experienced women... Unless they went to Catholic school. 0.98
03:43:32.240 Perhaps. Most women 1.00
03:43:33.580 don't want to be initiators. They don't want to go 1.00
03:43:35.680 in for the first kiss. They don't want to move things forward
03:43:37.680 sexually. They don't want to be responsible
03:43:39.480 for all the steps
03:43:41.440 of which there are many.
03:43:43.180 Taking clothes off. 1.00
03:43:46.760 Most women 1.00
03:43:47.500 probably lean more... 1.00
03:43:49.480 I'm not saying they're like BDSM level, but generally speaking, women lean more submissive. 0.80
03:43:54.160 Men will lean more dominant. 0.99
03:43:55.640 That's sort of the inherent.
03:43:57.680 I'd say as a generalization.
03:43:59.160 As a generalization.
03:44:00.140 As a generalization.
03:44:01.440 Yeah.
03:44:01.720 My friends and I, because I'm more dominant and more aggressive.
03:44:04.260 Sure, of course.
03:44:04.660 Most of my girlfriends, whether they're courtesans or not, they are more submissive.
03:44:08.500 And so they don't always understand what I'm talking about.
03:44:10.760 Yeah. 1.00
03:44:11.060 And so for, and of course there are definitely, there are women who are more dominant and 1.00
03:44:15.340 who will take those steps of initiative. 0.56
03:44:17.080 But I think they're the minority as compared to the majority of women. 1.00
03:44:19.900 That's true, yeah. 1.00
03:44:20.440 So for the majority of experienced civilian women, I would say they're not particularly thrilled with the idea of having sex with a virgin because they're going to have to teach the guy how to fuck them properly. 0.99
03:44:31.560 And I think most women just want to be with a guy that takes them and just gets it. 0.99
03:44:37.060 Give me pleasure. 1.00
03:44:38.460 Give me pleasure.
03:44:39.040 just well not necessarily but just gets it and she doesn't have to hand hold him to be like no 1.00
03:44:45.540 that's my anus my clit is up here like a guy who knows a guy who knows how to locate the clit and 1.00
03:44:52.680 a guy who knows how to put it in and a guy who knows positions and has some degree of sexual 0.99
03:44:57.820 experience so um and i think the other thing though that's physiological physiological difference 1.00
03:45:04.240 for why it's hard for a woman to be bad in bed 1.00
03:45:07.480 and it's much easier for a man to be bad in bed.
03:45:10.600 I think men have to be more, 0.72
03:45:13.060 when it comes to sex,
03:45:14.740 men have to be more taking a proactive approach.
03:45:18.320 They have to be doing something.
03:45:20.760 And here's the example I love to give. 0.82
03:45:23.620 So I think you could put a woman 0.94
03:45:27.120 in basically any position, 0.99
03:45:30.940 but put a woman in your preferred or desired position and tell her not to
03:45:36.480 move. 1.00
03:45:37.340 You just stay there.
03:45:38.260 Pillow princess. 0.98
03:45:39.220 She could pillow princess, 1.00
03:45:40.900 but I think so you put a woman just in doggy style, 1.00
03:45:43.860 for example,
03:45:44.400 and you like,
03:45:44.980 you can't move.
03:45:46.140 Don't move at all.
03:45:47.760 I think 99,
03:45:50.320 maybe 95%,
03:45:52.180 99% of men.
03:45:53.800 That's hot though.
03:45:55.080 I like that.
03:45:56.060 I mean,
03:45:56.340 I said that high and you said that's hot.
03:45:58.380 I think,
03:45:59.260 well,
03:45:59.560 I think the man,
03:46:00.940 instructing the woman to not move at all the man could bring himself to climax through his action
03:46:07.220 yeah but i think if a woman instructed a man okay i'm gonna the i'm gonna be on top or um
03:46:13.820 doggy style and she's throwing it back or whatever okay but he's just stationary right 1.00
03:46:20.480 can women come as frequently they know what they're doing only if they know what they're 0.98
03:46:27.740 so mostly no but generally speaking i would say far fewer women would be able to bring themselves
03:46:33.360 to climax the way that the man could bring themselves to climax yeah now look um and by
03:46:38.080 the way some women either struggle or can't even climax just from uh even sex intercourse i've met
03:46:44.640 girls who can't climax at all or at all yes that too so for that reason uh i think that there's 1.00
03:46:51.560 some differences i don't know like pussies like pizza like it's hard to fuck pizza up 0.99
03:46:57.940 you know and it's and it's if it's not the best pizza it's still pizza it's still good 0.98
03:47:03.860 like domino's is the bomb yo sorry i've been watching too much breaking bad um even caesars
03:47:09.900 like little caesars it's little caesars um it's terrible but it's good no like even domino's 0.99
03:47:16.060 pizza it's all it's still good like it's still good um whereas dick dick is like a filet mignon 1.00
03:47:24.200 steak you can fuck that shit up it could be so bad it could be so bad well are you overcook it 1.00
03:47:30.960 josh brooks donated 100 ladies most embarrassing dating or carnal knowledge stories could be 1.00
03:47:41.440 embarrassing for you or the other something that stuck with you over the years brian has a huge 1.00
03:47:47.520 urethra bigger than all of you all does that indicate his penis is also bigger 1.00
03:47:51.780 he could be insinuating i have a micro penis but my urethra is huge apparently i don't know 0.99
03:48:00.380 okay most embarrassing dating or give us a quick answer on this josh brooks good to see you in 0.98
03:48:07.140 back in the chat man it's been a while um most embarrassing like give us the quick version
03:48:12.380 dating story or embarrassing dating story i guess there's so many so many
03:48:18.020 dating story or sex story he's asking for sorry um i dated the guy who literally
03:48:27.340 like groomed me like kidnapped me oh my god that's not embarrassing embarrassing that's
03:48:34.560 that's traumatic oh wait yeah you wrote you wrote about that in the notes well I'll come back to 0.98
03:48:39.000 that later though uh what about you one time I had sex with my best friend's dad 0.84
03:48:45.440 we don't talk anymore awkward yes that's awesome okay what about you god there's so many I can't 0.96
03:48:56.480 even isolate mic mic mic mic mic yeah I have to let me isolate one you can skip me and come back
03:49:02.600 Okay, go ahead.
03:49:04.140 One time, his blood vessel broke, and the blood sprayed all over the room, like in the murder scene. 0.99
03:49:12.060 In the penis. 1.00
03:49:13.520 You broke his dick. 1.00
03:49:16.000 Were you on top? 1.00
03:49:17.180 During sex? 0.92
03:49:17.840 Were you on top? 0.78
03:49:18.720 Maybe.
03:49:19.420 Of course.
03:49:20.400 You got to be careful, guys.
03:49:21.560 You got to be careful, you know. 1.00
03:49:23.300 I have my claws when a woman's on top. 1.00
03:49:27.620 No, I'm just kidding. 1.00
03:49:28.060 But sometimes with these girls want to throw it back a little, you got to be like, whoa, slow down, bro. 1.00
03:49:32.920 My shit's going to fall out and you're going to break my shit. 1.00
03:49:35.740 You got to be careful when the girl's on top or you might break your dick. 1.00
03:49:40.440 Okay. 1.00
03:49:40.840 What about you?
03:49:43.720 Embarrassing dating story.
03:49:45.260 I could bring up, I was dating a sports agent in San Francisco and he had a restaurant beneath where he lived.
03:49:53.280 And he was just embarrassing me with his demeanor with the wait staff.
03:49:57.180 so he was just very rude and trying to orchestrate the whole restaurant around him and that was very
03:50:02.960 highly embarrassing so okay Tatum wait so like an embarrassing dating or sex story either one 0.79
03:50:10.120 dating or sex story oh my god this is like really x-rated like I don't know uh so do you want to
03:50:16.260 skip or I just don't I I would have had to think about it I don't know I don't want to say something
03:50:22.200 i regret but okay next yeah um mine is one of the ones i wrote should i share that or uh sure
03:50:30.540 um so i was on a christian dating app and i matched with a muslim didn't realize he was a
03:50:34.920 muslim met up with him in person he said that he was only you know i asked him why he's a christian
03:50:40.340 said the only reason why he was on the app is because christians are good girls um and they
03:50:45.100 listen and um he proceeded to yell at the hostesses at the restaurant we went on a date with I don't
03:50:52.780 even consider that a date uh told me I wasn't allowed to order what I wanted to and he ordered
03:50:57.540 for me and then um the entire time he was on crutches getting just like I don't know really
03:51:04.800 angry at everybody around us it was extremely embarrassing for me and everyone on a second date
03:51:09.060 Next
03:51:10.780 I already regret telling this
03:51:13.080 When I was in college
03:51:14.920 I was having an interaction
03:51:16.860 With a guy and he
03:51:18.780 Went downtown and he
03:51:20.900 Decided to get really creative and like
03:51:22.940 Lift me in the air but he squeezed my stomach
03:51:25.040 And I farted and then he dropped me
03:51:26.860 That's incredible
03:51:28.300 And I still hate myself
03:51:29.360 He just dropped me and didn't say anything 0.99
03:51:33.020 That's fucking disgusting 1.00
03:51:34.940 He squeezed my stomach 1.00
03:51:36.840 What about you?
03:51:38.040 I wrote it down.
03:51:39.040 Is that okay?
03:51:39.660 Sure.
03:51:40.860 This was a long time ago.
03:51:42.320 One time I was talking to this one guy, and I posted a photo about it.
03:51:49.400 Well, he was also talking to a few other girls at the same time,
03:51:53.020 and we all found out because we had all posted photos.
03:51:56.680 It was starting to get serious.
03:51:58.040 We all met up, and then we met.
03:52:01.840 Then we surprised him, and then his face just, like, lost all color.
03:52:06.800 he apologized never did it again and one of the girls he was sleeping with and she had kids like
03:52:12.240 it was getting serious with them and she was just really crushed and then um yeah i became best
03:52:17.900 friends with one of the girls so i felt really bad for that guy i don't think he did that again
03:52:22.340 yeah
03:52:24.020 can i tell mine yes oh my god okay wait oh i don't know
03:52:31.400 um oh never mind brian's back wait so i'll tell it do it do it you can't say it because i'm
03:52:41.340 i didn't i think you i think you wanted to like move on maybe no i'll tell mine wait so you were
03:52:48.060 gonna say it when i was gone okay no i'm happy to move it on okay so anyways um i wanted to
03:52:53.760 finish up on the disagreements um his awful memory if it goes wrong what is that
03:53:00.160 like like just the memory that it leaves for the woman if it goes wrong like you know what i mean
03:53:06.140 like so yeah yeah just again like associating with the pain and associating with like the
03:53:11.720 negative intimacy or right you're saying like sometimes uh perhaps often when women lose their
03:53:18.500 virginity or the first time they have sex uh there can often be it can be painful yeah but i mean like
03:53:25.600 so should they just not have sex or no i just mean like not wait like that not wait till marriage
03:53:33.720 is what i'm saying because you don't you don't want to take you know okay have that go to marriage
03:53:39.520 and gotcha uh right we have um oh jaylen okay oh boy uh disagreements with the show essay assault
03:53:47.100 not believing survivors when i mean i'll know how you arrive at not believing survivors or whatever
03:53:52.320 It was the podcast when you had the two Aussie girls, and she had Rage Left, and she was talking kind of about an essay moment.
03:54:03.240 And you also had the older female.
03:54:04.700 She was sitting right here, actually.
03:54:06.940 What, same episode or different episode?
03:54:08.780 It was the same episode, and she was just like, well, maybe she just left because she didn't want to specifically talk about the essay moment.
03:54:18.520 I don't know if you remember that.
03:54:19.200 Do you know how long ago it was?
03:54:20.580 it might have been two years ago two years ago okay um uh so what's your i guess specific
03:54:29.860 disagreement i just think it's we shouldn't mention like you and andrew wilson had said
03:54:35.240 um maybe it never even happens and i think it's just negating the point i mean
03:54:42.820 for that to not happen is like a six percent likelihood okay well i mean are we gonna have a
03:54:51.000 debate about this the merits of the statistics surrounding false accusations um i mean if it's
03:55:00.040 from two years ago by the way i don't remember conversations from last week on this podcast
03:55:04.760 you're saying this was an episode two years ago and me and andrew oh i think i well there's been
03:55:12.120 a few times where women have come on and told us some stories and um am i obliged to believe
03:55:18.440 everything i hear on this podcast given of course women have already lied multiple times on this
03:55:23.120 episode not not that uh notwithstanding that um you do acknowledge that false accusations
03:55:29.840 do sometimes occur i i agree that they occur right so we've had some instances um where women
03:55:38.120 and by the way, this is technically logically possible, this could happen, where we had one
03:55:43.920 woman, for example, who she had been in a consensual sexual relationship with a man for six
03:55:50.760 months, and she was, I don't know, he went on vacation, he came back, they had sex, and then
03:56:04.760 she claims that it was non-consensual
03:56:08.220 and then she proceeded to have
03:56:09.600 consensual sex 0.99
03:56:11.620 with him another three times 0.82
03:56:13.600 and then another time it was non-consensual
03:56:15.680 or wait, I'm mixing up these stories 0.99
03:56:17.820 we've had one or two women come on
03:56:19.900 and say that they had long-term boyfriends
03:56:21.860 where on a Tuesday
03:56:23.180 she's raped and then on a Wednesday 1.00
03:56:25.660 she has enthusiastic consensual 1.00
03:56:27.980 sex with him. Now 0.98
03:56:29.100 I'm going to be charitable here. I think that this is
03:56:31.860 actually logically possible. Like it's
03:56:33.940 completely logically possible. You can be married to somebody or in a relationship with someone and
03:56:39.020 you say, I don't want to have sex. And he forces himself upon you. That completely is something
03:56:44.320 that can happen. However, it, you would agree with me that when you have this, like on Monday,
03:56:53.220 it's consensual, Tuesday, it's rape, Wednesday, consensual, Thursday, rape, Friday, consensual.
03:56:58.400 again, it's possible. It's a bit confusing to me. I mean, you don't necessarily agree in like
03:57:09.640 trauma bonding or any of that nature occurring? I think that that is a thing, certainly that
03:57:16.940 happens. And I've heard from women that I do believe, by the way, that the first time they
03:57:25.640 have sex with a man who they liked, he did force himself on them. And they ended up in a relationship
03:57:30.640 with that man. And I think that that is something that does happen. And sometimes the women feel
03:57:36.780 like, I really love this guy. I'm super confused by what happened. I don't want to get him into
03:57:40.680 trouble. He forced himself on me. Now I've got a body. Maybe they were even a virgin. I don't want
03:57:49.580 of like and so they stay with the guy so that's completely a possibility um but there are instances
03:57:56.480 like i'm inclined to believe people who make credible accusations uh but there are sometimes
03:58:03.260 like some of these stories sometimes they're a bit dubious i guess where i disagreed was just
03:58:10.740 honing in on the fact that you automatically without oscar ossey girl specifically which
03:58:15.160 i know you don't remember i don't remember the details of it so just saying like it probably
03:58:20.120 didn't happen i think that takes the way to point obviously we're going on i don't even recall if
03:58:24.580 that's what was said um so i i don't recall the context gotcha but i guess obviously i'm going
03:58:31.460 off of stats of the six percent of it of somebody lying this has been like a federal well can i
03:58:37.660 ask you a question well can i think let's define our terms here if we're going to have the 0.98
03:58:41.480 conversation um if if my girlfriend wakes me up with a blowjob have i been raped now you're going 0.98
03:58:50.100 off for andrew wilson's logic just bro can you stop obfuscating and answer the question i i mean 0.99
03:58:56.740 preferably i would like communication for consent but so hold on if my girlfriend who we've had 0.96
03:59:04.000 enthusiastic sex 300 times and she wakes me up with a blowjob was i raped and you have said
03:59:09.380 previously that that is okay um do I want to grant that there was like an actual like talk about that 0.99
03:59:19.320 or whatever I'll go ahead and say yeah I give her my consent I'm like babe I want you to wake me up 0.99
03:59:25.200 with a blowjob but I'm unconscious is that rape oh I see what you're saying can can unconscious 0.99
03:59:30.900 people consent to sex that's that's a hard one obviously there's communication before but then 0.99
03:59:35.940 there's also the other side of unconsciousness which is a little difficult to say okay but so
03:59:41.520 hold on let's flip it a woman uh has been married to her husband for three years and they have sex 0.98
03:59:48.500 every day in fact the woman is the fiend the woman is the sex fiend and she says hey hubby um i want 1.00
03:59:56.980 you to wake me up with oral sex no i would and then he he or wake me up with sex so stick your 1.00
04:00:04.540 dick in me but she's unconscious did he rape her i would say same perspective as the previous 1.00
04:00:12.760 comment you don't just tell me what the perspective is well like i had said i mean did he rape her 0.99
04:00:18.800 it's it's hard to say because there was communication beforehand but the unconsciousness
04:00:23.480 can tie into an essay or r word so that's why it's a little harder to say but okay but so
04:00:29.700 there are a lot of people online who say, even if your woman has initiated, even if your girlfriend
04:00:36.080 wife has initiated every single consensual sexual encounter you've ever had, um, and she begs you
04:00:42.680 or, uh, wait, actually, let me flip it. How do I want to flip it? They'll argue that, um, say, 0.64
04:00:50.780 yeah, yeah. I guess we'll keep it as the woman. No, no. The, well, I guess it's both mutually 0.99
04:00:56.560 enthusiastic, but the woman is more like, no, whatever, that doesn't matter. The woman asks
04:01:07.320 the husband, no, no, no, the husband asks the girlfriend or wife to be woken up with a BJ. 0.97
04:01:15.720 There are people who will argue that if you're, you cannot consent, therefore you've been raped.
04:01:22.960 so it's a sensitive subject i know but i think it's important to make distinctions as to what
04:01:29.780 we're talking about and what constitutes this crime right yeah i i would fall under more of
04:01:35.120 the communication side that i would people will argue even if you like give right pre-consent 0.98
04:01:42.220 so to speak like the girl the wife asks hey can i wake you up with a blowjob and you're like yes 0.97
04:01:48.600 absolutely i would love that please do that and then she does that she's committed a crime yeah 0.98
04:01:54.600 i think they're just trying to take the unconscious perspective because it's talked about a lot in the
04:01:59.220 essay community more dealing with like alcohol related so i think that's why they're coming
04:02:03.840 with that perspective right um but so that's why i just want to like get a sense of what we mean
04:02:10.760 when we're using this term um and then there's like just other scenarios where it's like assume
04:02:17.840 the woman has consented 300 times or no say how about this um i've consented to my girlfriend
04:02:24.280 300 times like i consent to her um and say she's on top and i'm like kind of over it or whatever
04:02:32.340 and i want her to stop um so i'm like hey get off or whatever like let's stop and say she like
04:02:39.220 throws it back like 10 more times because she's close to coming have i just been raped 1.00
04:02:43.920 that could how about she's she's like literally on the precipice she's she's like on the precipice 0.89
04:02:56.660 of climaxing and she climaxes like she basically loses control of her body and she's like you know 1.00
04:03:03.080 some some women are fucking their legs are shaking they're spazzing out when they're coming and shit 1.00
04:03:08.640 But I'm like, get off, get off, get off. 1.00
04:03:10.360 And she's like, ugh. 0.69
04:03:11.740 She can't control it. 0.86
04:03:13.740 But I wanted her off like five seconds ago. 1.00
04:03:18.220 And it took her five seconds to remove her pussy from my dick. 1.00
04:03:21.820 Have I been raped? 1.00
04:03:25.140 I would say SA. 1.00
04:03:28.860 Okay, well, fine.
04:03:30.400 We can use SA.
04:03:31.500 Have I been sexually assaulted? 0.93
04:03:33.480 So I should go to the police and report her.
04:03:35.400 I mean, if the logic is I'm falling under the tier of communication, you clearly communicate it to her like, hey, like I'm done with this specific position.
04:03:42.700 Then obviously, like, that's a further communication y'all need to have after.
04:03:47.120 But that should have just never happened.
04:03:50.300 Right. 1.00
04:03:50.940 But so, like, if we would, like, just use reverse, like, let's say let's say a wife, she needs really rough sex, like really rough, really fast sex. 1.00
04:04:01.880 Ew. 1.00
04:04:02.400 For her pleasure 1.00
04:04:05.560 And she initiates sex 1.00
04:04:07.260 Every single time 1.00
04:04:08.300 And she's a fucking demon 1.00
04:04:09.900 She's a fiend for the dick 1.00
04:04:11.740 She's fucked a thousand times 1.00
04:04:16.040 Her boyfriend 1.00
04:04:17.020 Her husband
04:04:17.680 But like one instance
04:04:20.460 I don't know
04:04:21.920 Maybe like she felt a twinge of pain or something
04:04:24.040 But her instructions
04:04:26.600 To her husband
04:04:27.580 Is like I need you
04:04:29.400 I need 300 pumps per minute 0.99
04:04:31.820 i need rapid fire like deep fucking strokes and you're on top and so my this is fucking crazy 0.99
04:04:41.120 conversation and then she feels a twinge of pain but she's loving she's otherwise like everything 0.99
04:04:46.120 was good she's consenting whatever but she feels a twinge of pain and she says stop stop stop
04:04:49.960 but physics momentum boom boom he's going quick
04:04:54.540 and she asked for him to go quick
04:04:59.840 three
04:05:01.780 I don't know what the math would be
04:05:03.240 there's 60 seconds a minute 1.00
04:05:05.580 she wants three pumps per second 1.00
04:05:07.780 that's 1.00
04:05:09.940 180 pumps per minute
04:05:11.540 180 pumps per minute
04:05:14.120 and she says stop stop stop
04:05:15.480 and he
04:05:16.740 momentum and physics and he's on top right
04:05:19.720 oh boy
04:05:22.680 I'm going to change the topics 1.00
04:05:25.180 You're making Tatum hot 1.00
04:05:29.620 What
04:05:35.840 I would not
04:05:41.900 If the guy did
04:05:43.120 If there was one or two
04:05:45.200 Pumps after the stop
04:05:47.620 And then he stops
04:05:51.640 i don't think that was rape like
04:05:57.060 and then he stops
04:06:00.720 i'm just saying what is the line
04:06:06.900 oh boy i think community there has to be some great period there's got right i think there's
04:06:15.020 a little great like for example right if my girlfriend like by the way i prefer more slow 0.79
04:06:19.920 intimate gentle sex but some if my girlfriend was on top and she was throwing it back okay 1.00
04:06:26.380 30 thrust per uh 180 thrust per second boom boom boom boom throwing that shit back son and she's 1.00
04:06:34.240 got a cake say she's got a cake bro and there's so it's like she's got a giant fat she's thick 1.00
04:06:40.040 she's fucking a thicky icky and there's momentum bro physics mass mass physics and she's throwing 1.00
04:06:47.200 it back like this son 1.00
04:06:48.280 and I'm like 1.00
04:06:51.520 oh shit I think you broke my dick 1.00
04:06:53.280 get off 1.00
04:06:53.860 I wouldn't like 0.87
04:06:56.960 I would give her a grace of about
04:06:59.500 I'd give her seven 1.00
04:07:00.600 four to seven pumps thrust 1.00
04:07:03.140 four to seven thrust
04:07:05.220 I think we should all extend that to no matter what gender
04:07:07.740 I'm just saying 0.77
04:07:08.900 four to seven thrust if there's you know
04:07:10.880 but what
04:07:11.940 you know
04:07:13.900 I don't know
04:07:15.960 I don't know.
04:07:16.540 Whatever.
04:07:17.080 I don't know where I'm going.
04:07:17.880 I think we've defined it as 4 to 7 pumps for the delayed stop period.
04:07:21.520 Right. 1.00
04:07:22.120 Neither gender. 1.00
04:07:22.820 It's fine. 1.00
04:07:23.700 4 to 7 is the great.
04:07:25.000 There has to be some grace period.
04:07:26.440 Right.
04:07:27.620 Legit.
04:07:28.580 But, like, looking at it from an analytical lens, like, I think people would say, well, hold on.
04:07:34.560 It should stop immediately.
04:07:35.800 But does immediately.
04:07:36.900 I agree.
04:07:37.620 I think it should stop immediately.
04:07:39.140 But then, like, that's how long it took to process.
04:07:41.560 Then there's a brain process.
04:07:43.380 There's a brain processing.
04:07:44.300 And then there's a gravity.
04:07:45.020 there's gravity because
04:07:47.880 you have to factor
04:07:50.020 there's momentum
04:07:51.460 momentum too
04:07:53.240 yes there's the momentum
04:07:55.020 there's gravity involved
04:07:56.660 engineering
04:07:57.780 I don't know 0.98
04:07:59.680 the Asians are
04:08:02.840 believing that there's a 0.94
04:08:04.260 oh boy 0.75
04:08:05.820 but yeah rape is a horrible crime
04:08:08.480 and I think these people should be in prison for life 0.99
04:08:10.580 or killed to be honest 0.99
04:08:12.440 but
04:08:12.700 But, I mean, are you comfortable sharing details of your thing or no?
04:08:19.080 Yes, I am.
04:08:20.280 Oh, okay.
04:08:21.880 Base, Thor donated $100.
04:08:24.800 This was really hard for me to talk about, but I'm a victim of grape cause.
04:08:29.040 One of my ex used to wake me up in the mornings, blowing me.
04:08:32.860 It was really traumatizing.
04:08:35.320 Men, don't be scared. Speak out.
04:08:38.800 Yeah.
04:08:40.360 Thank you for that, Base, Thor. Appreciate it.
04:08:42.700 um yeah okay uh yeah i don't know if you want to share okay yeah i just wanted to come on to
04:08:50.900 represent hold on i saved survivors and so i don't know why i'm getting emotional i never
04:08:59.360 get emotional about it anyways um statistically i just want to start there that 44 percent of
04:09:07.520 adult women have reported it and 25 percent of men have adult men have reported it and so this
04:09:15.160 is a very huge issue for me and it's a very huge topic for me i agree it's a serious issue mine
04:09:20.600 specifically um happened in college it was somebody that thinks it was someone that um i was
04:09:27.780 friends with through soccer and so um he um i was hanging out with him and his roommate
04:09:37.580 they were both men and we were in his dorm room and um when his roommate left that's when
04:09:47.040 everything had happened and unfortunately his excuse was that he was a virgin and that he was
04:09:53.060 never going to get any other opportunity like this so um and then obviously blaming me for
04:09:59.480 what I was wearing but it's just why I wanted to come on here and represent that
04:10:05.080 these instances do happen so well I'm very sorry to hear that that uh that happened now um
04:10:12.100 and this is this was just a friend correct you know and it is frequent you know sometimes people
04:10:18.500 want to say that it's the man jumping out of the bush but oftentimes it's someone you know it's a
04:10:22.940 friend um and uh well i'm sorry that happened um and but was that the like this was not a guy you
04:10:32.340 were dating correct no it was just some guy you're hanging out with him and you didn't like continue
04:10:37.660 seeing him correct this was a one-time thing um did you go to the police i went to um i was in
04:10:43.780 college so i forget what they call it specifically in college to report while you're in college well
04:10:50.760 Yes, so there's the administration, which you can report it to, but there's also, you know, there's the police, whether that there's oftentimes campus police.
04:11:00.800 Did you report it to the campus police specifically as a criminal report?
04:11:05.420 No, just because it's a little harder when it's essay because of evidence, and that's what they were trying to tell me when I reported it to the college, and so then I was deterred away from going to the police.
04:11:16.200 The administration said that?
04:11:18.740 Yes.
04:11:18.940 okay they they deterred you okay um got it can i add sure um i think your statistic is pretty
04:11:29.280 accurate i mean i i had shared that i was a victim of something like that too but
04:11:33.080 i i would say a lot of them go unreported because they happen when we're children for me i was four
04:11:37.780 years old so it's like i can't really report that i didn't even understand what was going on for me
04:11:42.040 and yeah in my future it really traumatized me and only recently where um that trauma has started
04:11:48.460 to really heal and forgiveness is really important through healing through that kind of trauma so
04:11:53.960 even though like we don't say i enable you just because i forgive you but i say i forgive you
04:11:58.680 because i want to move forward and i don't want to have this grudge on you anymore and have that
04:12:02.020 weight on my shoulder and that's just something that we practice in christianity i kind of
04:12:05.320 disagree with you on this do you mean forgiving yourself or forgiving the person forgiving the
04:12:11.660 person that's something that jesus teaches us so it's okay i mean you're not i don't know well
04:12:15.700 yeah but like to this is something to be on her team a little bit yeah
04:12:19.100 i don't think telling somebody who's been the victim of an essay that they should like your
04:12:26.420 first go-to yeah is like hey you should forgive the person yeah yeah so i go even as the toxic
04:12:33.640 masculine guy or whatever i'm like right i don't know about that my encouragement is like when
04:12:40.200 jesus was on the cross to are you christian um i'm i believe in god but i'm not as i think the
04:12:46.900 bible has a lot of you can't tell like a non-christian you can't tell it doesn't matter
04:12:52.360 that's crazy the bible has a lot of encouraging words of wisdom um that we could all learn from
04:12:59.020 it i mean there has been scientific studies on um people who have practiced christianity and they
04:13:04.460 have seen significant growth growth in their life whether they believe in god or not it's just
04:13:08.720 practicing the beliefs forgiveness i mean it's okay you can make all the faces you want but like
04:13:14.180 i mean to be an advocate a little bit i feel like it's a little like to soapbox and like
04:13:21.020 so what do you think hold on to like forward your religion in a moment where somebody is like
04:13:27.400 expressing that they've been victimized via like via essay time and place a little bit you know
04:13:36.540 what i mean i think our definition of forgiveness looks a lot different and i think that's the
04:13:40.280 the issue here it's still i don't know hey i don't know maybe the girls agree with you i don't know
04:13:45.880 yeah i don't necessarily agree obviously but we have a different path of resilience and mine is
04:13:50.500 being public on instagram and helping other survivors and yours is through your faith
04:13:54.780 yeah and i would never people heal in different ways yeah yeah no no it's okay
04:13:59.920 Maybe forgiveness isn't on it.
04:14:01.920 Yeah, yeah.
04:14:02.440 I mean, for me, however you want to move forward.
04:14:06.440 It clearly did, because you've come a long way.
04:14:08.160 I'm honestly impressed.
04:14:09.220 Can I ask you just, and look, I know this is a sensitive subject to talk about.
04:14:13.580 Can I ask you a question on what do you feel is your standard for consent?
04:14:18.020 Do you think it's affirmative consent?
04:14:21.300 I guess mine is more communication-based.
04:14:23.740 But this is where things get a bit confusing a little bit in the sense that I think for most people, especially, you know, people are in their 30s and 40s, that like is the expectation that every like every step of sexual escalation, my girlfriend needs to ask me, is it OK if I do this?
04:14:52.680 can I do this? Like that would be a very clunky sort of like most people who've had sex would
04:14:58.840 probably agree with me that it is very clunky, especially if you've already had sex like 500 0.74
04:15:04.060 times. Like, is it okay if I grab your ass now? Or is it, or my girlfriend asked me, can I suck 1.00
04:15:10.520 your dick? Like, so where do we, how do we walk the line here on this specific topic? 1.00
04:15:21.460 I guess if anything changes, then communicate that. I mean, there's still, I think a lot of
04:15:27.380 people from your perspective are worried that it's going to ruin the mood or anything like that.
04:15:32.320 Communications can still be sexy and still be heard. Well, I'm, I'm, so I'm fine with the
04:15:37.760 communication. Although I think perhaps many men and many women may report that, uh, like, I mean,
04:15:44.740 look, I could ask this question, which would you prefer? I'm not even, we're not even going to talk
04:15:49.040 about sex the first kiss would you prefer the guy to and in both instances this assumes you want the
04:15:58.020 guy to kiss you would you prefer the guy to say something like can I kiss you now or would you 0.71
04:16:04.420 prefer him to look into your eyes grab the back of your head and just kiss you now look sex is 1.00
04:16:11.100 obviously different right um but I've asked this question on the show and the women say
04:16:17.340 just kiss me don't ask to kiss me just kiss me and so many women would be like apprehensive and
04:16:25.780 almost turned off by this now I'm not saying that as a prescription that means that you know you
04:16:34.060 shouldn't ask for permission for the kiss I think if you want to be risk averse perhaps you should
04:16:39.620 especially in today's social climate. But even sometimes women's own sexual preferences 1.00
04:16:47.460 punish men who seek out a very explicit form of verbal consent. And so you women in and of yourself
04:16:58.600 punish men who are desirous of having a very strict verbal affirmative consent. 1.00
04:17:04.960 can I touch you here can I touch you here is this okay can I touch you here can I take your top off 0.90
04:17:11.780 can I take your panties off is it okay um can I put myself inside like 0.82
04:17:17.020 most people who've had sex it's like body language it's it you know I don't know this 0.99
04:17:25.160 is obviously like optically it's like not a like a great conversation to be fucking having because 0.92
04:17:32.220 like they're just going to be like oh you're trying to do like apologetics for this but I don't know 0.80
04:17:37.640 so I don't know yeah I'll just end it by saying like personally I would go for if somebody's
04:17:44.040 going to kiss me if they ask me I think that's really sexy and attractive and obviously some
04:17:47.860 of that comes from my trauma like I need a communication aspect because that happened
04:17:54.180 right before I was with my husband so my sexual experience changed a lot to where I needed like
04:18:01.440 after having sex i needed to be cuddled they couldn't move away from me or else the trauma
04:18:05.700 would reoccur so that's where my communication aspect comes from is is the standard though
04:18:12.660 affirmative consent demands that you must always verbally ask for permission in each
04:18:22.560 individual instance of like even if you've had you've had sex 300 times you must ask at each
04:18:29.800 step of sexual escalation for consent is that the standard you would like to see no just with change
04:18:37.340 if if there's a change that is occurring and like you were saying if it starts to hurt then
04:18:42.740 obviously communicate that okay so it's still enjoyable right enjoy the experience okay uh
04:18:48.820 final thing on this and i'll move on to something a bit more light um sexual coercion
04:18:54.840 Um, I've read online that, uh, you, sexual coercion, which is a form of sexual violence,
04:19:07.140 which, um, would be considered like the woman can't consent because of the coercion and
04:19:13.220 therefore she's been raped. 0.96
04:19:15.060 One of these is threatening to break up with a girl if she doesn't have sex with you. 0.99
04:19:20.780 now personally i think if your things are bad where like look the woman should be have massive
04:19:26.980 levels of enthusiasm to sex and i find it if she's not into it it's a non-starter uh however
04:19:34.400 i think it's reasonable in this if you're in a relationship where the woman demands for sexual
04:19:41.680 monogamy and she refuses to have sex with you how could it possibly be wrong to want to end
04:19:48.940 the relationship when she 0.88
04:19:51.280 we're not
04:19:52.980 this isn't a friendship
04:19:54.180 this is a sexual romantic relationship
04:19:56.840 no but they want to
04:19:58.960 I've actually heard that though I've had girlfriends be like
04:20:01.000 this is what I want
04:20:01.580 I've actually had a couple
04:20:04.980 sorry one sec
04:20:06.800 Josh Brooks donated $100
04:20:08.940 might as well write out
04:20:11.040 a notarized contract of all expected
04:20:13.260 and permitted acts and goings on
04:20:14.940 during the bedroom Olympics
04:20:16.460 get it all out of the way from the start
04:20:18.840 ain't nobody got time for that thank you josh brooks i do appreciate that um sorry do you want
04:20:25.740 to continue just um do you remember there's like an snl skit about uh you got to sign an nda before
04:20:31.200 you sleep with me the sex consent contract for you dave chapelle that's it that was so funny
04:20:36.400 but um well and but they would say even that they would say um even having a sex consent contract 0.86
04:20:43.680 Not enough. Well, no, but actually I agree with, um, people who say you can revoke consent during
04:20:50.880 the act. Like I completely agree with that. So even if you have like a consent, which is kind
04:20:55.340 of crazy that like, all right, our lawyers here, we're going to pass, uh, lawyers are going to 0.99
04:20:59.640 meet and we're going to negotiate the check, check here for oral sex, you know? Um, absolutely. You 1.00
04:21:08.260 even even if you have the contract you can still revoke like you can be like oh uh let's stop and
04:21:14.480 you should stop right yeah um but uh wait where oh the okay the they consider coercion threats
04:21:22.540 of breaking up with the person would you consider that to fall under rape
04:21:27.660 that's that's hard because that's kind of what happened in my marriage but more of i left him
04:21:36.160 because he wasn't because i wasn't putting out anymore and so he was becoming addicted to
04:21:41.820 online stuff and so i ended up leaving because i felt like he was an understanding of my situation
04:21:48.060 and then obviously he wasn't happy so he was turning to online stuff wait just to be clear
04:21:53.600 um he was watching porn and then you stopped having sex with him or you stopped having sex 0.93
04:21:59.760 with him and his he turned to porn or his porn use increased it increased drastically 0.98
04:22:05.180 but you weren't having sex with him i understand but if you're not fulfilling him sexually how can
04:22:14.320 you fault him for turning to pornography and unfortunately i just i do fault him and a lot
04:22:20.640 of it goes into different stories of it like our financial aspect into everything else but
04:22:25.540 i still fault him for turning to that but hold on let me make sure i understand the logic so i
04:22:32.620 understand there can be issues in relationships and marriages and you can be upset with the person
04:22:38.600 it sounds like you're upset with him for reasons beyond the porn their financial issues maybe he 0.99
04:22:42.920 wasn't meeting your needs in various ways you withdraw sex you punish him no sex withdraw sex 0.97
04:22:53.180 and when when you say you weren't having sex with him we're talking on the the timeline of months 0.98
04:22:58.000 year over a year how long were you married we were married three years and at the beginning
04:23:04.720 of the marriage you were having sex it's it started to fall off a bit how soon into the marriage
04:23:10.800 probably a couple months in so and then like it was just a cold stop a couple months in
04:23:19.560 so for two years of your marriage you were not having sex with your husband it'll be a
04:23:23.640 A cold stop unless we had a vacation planned then maybe, but otherwise in San Antonio now.
04:23:29.940 So there were a few instances where you were having sex with him rarely.
04:23:33.640 Yeah, very, very few.
04:23:34.740 So months would go by without sex.
04:23:36.620 Yeah, months would go by.
04:23:37.900 And this period lasted about two years.
04:23:39.820 Correct. 0.99
04:23:41.160 Look, I don't think men should watch porn, but it's like, if your wife isn't having sex with you, divorce, cheat, porn. 0.99
04:23:50.600 Brian. 0.99
04:23:51.080 whoa whoa what oh sorry what you're good so harsh you're gonna give us savannah stone vibes 0.98
04:24:00.120 no look so look um it depends how much you value the marriage if if the sex ceases and there was
04:24:09.960 no aside from you being upset with him you were not ill like you weren't sick you weren't ill you
04:24:16.720 weren't no i mean at one point you weren't you weren't that wasn't the reason there wasn't like 1.00
04:24:20.880 a terrible train accident and you lost your pussy you still had the pussy um still still had the 1.00
04:24:27.200 pussy so honestly my my go-to is divorce number one second go-to would be porn third go-to cheat 1.00
04:24:38.160 may i interrupt of course go ahead i don't agree with that and men 0.99
04:24:43.520 don't listen to that advice please because i think if you're gonna marry someone that obviously means
04:24:50.160 you were in love and it seems like you had a bunch of well first i want to say i'm really
04:24:55.140 sorry for what happened to you and i know that that was really heavy on you and um from the
04:25:00.880 outside it seems like you've had a lot of on um unhealed trauma that you were still processing
04:25:08.980 and that went into your marriage and I think that because you had that unhealed trauma it started to
04:25:15.360 affect your marriage and I think when you're married as a team it would have been wise for
04:25:21.080 them to just take time processing that have space for that find counseling and yeah that's a burden
04:25:28.720 but when or not a burden but when you're in a marriage you guys carry each other's struggles
04:25:33.700 And I think in this situation, it doesn't.
04:25:36.980 Sorry, hold on.
04:25:37.680 Your ex-dee donated $100.
04:25:40.580 It sort of sounds like you failed to uphold a basic marriage duty and then refused to take accountability.
04:25:47.780 If you don't do your duty in the relationship, how do you have any standing to be upset?
04:25:53.100 Do you want to respond to that really quickly?
04:25:54.600 And then I'll, Sab, I'll let you continue.
04:25:56.320 I was going to respond to her.
04:25:57.320 Well, let's respond to the TTS, then respond to her.
04:25:59.600 Obviously, our marriage was a lot different.
04:26:01.280 It wasn't traditional.
04:26:02.780 I was the breadwinner in the marriage.
04:26:04.420 So there was a lot of animosity, like I was saying financially, but, um, obviously I just
04:26:09.360 wanted to talk about this specific instance of essay.
04:26:11.920 Yeah.
04:26:12.440 Okay.
04:26:12.820 Well, really quick here.
04:26:14.100 I recall in your notes, um, you, you said you wanted a 50, 50 dynamic.
04:26:20.140 Correct.
04:26:21.160 So you sought out, no, you like you're a lot of people want to do like hand waving for 1.00
04:26:28.100 women's accountability.
04:26:30.040 You were an adult when you married this man, correct? 0.99
04:26:32.780 you were, you were aware of his financial standing. Were you aware of his job?
04:26:38.280 Yes. And you knew about the finances prior to marriage,
04:26:42.200 prior to entering a relationship with him. I think it's different once you get into the
04:26:45.780 marriage and you realize how much a woman is doing. I was a hundred percent cooking. I was 1.00
04:26:49.240 a hundred percent cleaning. So at that point I was just like, okay, this is not a true 50,
04:26:52.920 50 dynamic, which is why my perspective changed. Well, hold on. Women often overestimate how much
04:26:59.440 household work they're doing and underestimate or completely ignore the things in which men do so 0.99
04:27:05.020 men are going to do certain physical tasks that women won't now look i'm i'm willing to grant
04:27:09.620 though that there are certainly situations there are absolutely situations where the woman even in
04:27:15.000 50 50 dynamics is taking on wait i'm sorry i need you to have put your leg down we're going to get 1.00
04:27:20.420 an upskirt here i apologize um just scoot into the table please just to avoid an upskirt here 1.00
04:27:27.280 there are definitely situations where women are taking on more of the burden but you don't have 1.00
04:27:34.200 kids right no kids no kids so you're doing more of the cooking you're doing more of the cleaning
04:27:39.160 um and i understand that that can create resentment here but like you wanted the 50 50
04:27:48.380 you wanted that you sought it out right right okay you knew his finances were you guys living
04:27:56.100 together before marriage oh yes we were living together okay what was the distribution of the
04:28:05.380 household chores um i was doing like when there was no distribution i was just doing them doing
04:28:11.460 everything okay uh and you were the breadwinner okay well unfair though that may be you certainly
04:28:19.480 you did choose the circumstances that you found yourself in um you harbored resentment because of
04:28:25.820 he wasn't doing the dishes enough or whatever and thus you withheld sex as punishment uh for this
04:28:33.540 so but really quick i want you had a disagreement with me sad but let's get back to that disagreement 0.85
04:28:39.140 so um you disagree so so i marry a woman and she's like brian i don't want you to sleep with 0.99
04:28:47.460 any other women but by the way three months into the marriage i will never fuck you again 0.97
04:28:53.880 I have to stay married to her is that your is that your position actually 0.99
04:28:57.920 I don't think her situation is exactly that I think she went through something really traumatic
04:29:06.280 and really difficult to process and maybe rushed into a marriage I'm not saying the way the marriage
04:29:12.840 was done or the dating before I'm not saying it was done well or wisely but I'm saying if I was
04:29:19.780 i'm saying that there could have been
04:29:23.840 like therapy time for healing and i think in scripture it talks about how if there's a season
04:29:32.700 of withholding sex that's understandable it shouldn't be forever your effort should have been
04:29:37.560 um to really work on that trauma but his is also to grow in patience and figure out how to be a
04:29:45.080 better husband in that with the goal to bring the sex life back because sex is did you guys do
04:29:51.140 therapy yes that's why i was going to respond yes even with the therapy she continues to withhold
04:29:56.600 so then he should just accept it and stay in a sexless marriage what if his ambition is to have
04:30:03.240 children how can you possibly have children do you want to be sexless forever um no i no but
04:30:10.080 regardless of that she was in a sex sexless marriage so perhaps she wants to go have sex
04:30:16.260 with a man she deems more worthy but she's married or was married my my sight is that it
04:30:22.700 gets restored eventually but if there's no hope for a restoration that definitely puts a really
04:30:28.100 big strain but hopefully right wouldn't y'all want to fix your relationship if it's not fixable
04:30:35.380 you gotta go because you know what i it's not a friendship right like what made it not fixable 0.95
04:30:42.020 well just kind of everything she wanted a 50 50 relationship and she was taking on more of the 1.00
04:30:49.220 household duties she grew resentful uh and she withheld sex now he wanted sex correct correct
04:30:55.400 and you rejected him dozens if not hundreds of times not spoken about but obviously yes i knew
04:31:02.640 i have a headache i'm not in the mood i'm sweaty it wasn't it wasn't ever spoken about so is he
04:31:08.020 right about everything about what he's describing about what you you were like and you wanted 50 50
04:31:14.740 and you were withholding it intentionally is that how it really was yeah i was in a i but you chose
04:31:22.300 to leave him and i because you understood that it was not it was not i apologize i think it was
04:31:28.400 just more always very unforgiving about different stuff even though i set the expectations which i
04:31:33.860 totally get what you're talking about i'm sorry so i i would tell this to christian men i'm i'm
04:31:39.900 instructing christian men to sin christian men nope sons sons in a man's what is this proverbs
04:31:49.580 hold on so many sons in the man's youth are like quivers in the hand of a warrior blessed is he 0.99
04:31:57.880 who has many i totally fucking butchered that can can we google if you're a christian man 0.97
04:32:05.580 sometimes you gotta and you want sons and you want children and i don't know if anybody needs 1.00
04:32:15.640 to do earmuffs the way you have children is fucking the way you have children is sex and 1.00
04:32:21.880 if your wife doesn't want to bear you children and have sex with you and you're a christian man 1.00
04:32:28.180 i'm sorry your legacy is more important than adhering to some by the way i'm pretty sure 0.99
04:32:35.980 it's grounds for divorce she's not fucking right well i have a question for you so let's 1.00
04:32:40.600 hypothetically say your wife gets into a car accident she loses her pussy lose a train 1.00
04:32:44.500 accident yeah sure you can lose your pussy in the train then using your logic in this you can't 1.00
04:32:50.280 really have consensual sex with her 1.00
04:32:52.320 in the way that you'd like. Wait, consensual 0.99
04:32:54.440 sex? 0.97
04:32:57.120 Anyways. Wait, if
04:32:58.440 there's no pussy there, if it's just like... 1.00
04:33:00.240 I mean, it's still there, but 0.99
04:33:02.360 like, realistically speaking. Wait, are you saying
04:33:04.200 like she loses her ovaries or something? 1.00
04:33:06.040 Is she a vegetable? Like, she can't... 1.00
04:33:08.080 I'm saying paralyzed. 0.98
04:33:10.600 Yeah, paralyzed people 0.96
04:33:12.100 can still have sex, but wait, wait, wait, wait, 0.88
04:33:14.180 wait, wait, wait. Oh, I guess I didn't know. 0.99
04:33:17.200 I've never
04:33:17.980 researched that. Bro, I
04:33:20.060 think in uh in christianity it would be what's the term for not divorce but um what's the other
04:33:27.480 way to end like early on to end a marriage separation no it's a term it's blanking on me 0.98
04:33:33.360 though um the marriage was blank oh like like it happens early on no no no fucking not divorce 0.99
04:33:42.200 annulment i'm sorry if you marry a woman and she stops fucking you that's grounds for i think 0.99
04:33:49.920 that's grounds for annulment this is why it's very important and who you pick as your partner 0.97
04:33:56.220 especially when you get married it's the most important decision you'll make in your life so
04:34:00.460 don't do it quickly yeah yeah it depends everything and then also it's up to the guy like if the sex
04:34:07.980 is not important then he may choose to say because he wants to be with the person but if it is you
04:34:12.560 know and you don't even it doesn't even have to be because you want kids or because you want sex
04:34:16.460 you can leave a person because you don't want to be with them anymore and i think it's also
04:34:19.820 important to remember be careful who you fall in love with because you can fall in love with anyone
04:34:24.180 so just make sure you're falling in love with the right person and you do your homework and you also
04:34:30.620 make sure you're ready i think i think what i wanted to kind of like add on call it christian
04:34:35.820 or not but um when your values don't align with your christian or you know your political values
04:34:40.080 whatever um eventually you're going to continuously cross paths whether it's sex or whether it's
04:34:45.560 because you support what's her name the lindsey clancy right support her it could be sex or just
04:34:51.260 because you all don't like how each other does the toilet paper yeah and then you know what we're
04:34:55.760 going to divorce over and that's fine the dating stage is incredibly vital to understand what is
04:35:01.220 my potential partner's stance on a lot of these controversial exactly that's like she's saying
04:35:07.460 date and then choose careful yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean i was with him for six years so obviously
04:35:12.600 it's a lot different because I was I got with him as soon as I was 21 and he was 28 so that I mean
04:35:18.160 I totally get what you're saying I'm just saying it doesn't correlate with my marriage because we
04:35:22.320 were together for six years but unfortunately it's okay we married in a sense to try to make
04:35:27.920 it work figure out that your values in a line and your lifestyle didn't align it took six years
04:35:32.620 maybe it's longer than you wanted to take but you decided you agreed to disagree and that's it
04:35:37.660 I think that becomes deceitful then to the man because then he has this perception of, okay, this is who my wife is.
04:35:43.900 And then later on down the line, it changes.
04:35:46.640 And I guess, yeah.
04:35:47.980 It's like hiring a quarterback and then them being like, I'm not going to play, though.
04:35:51.460 I'm just going to be a water boy.
04:35:52.780 And then it's up to you if you want to keep him on or not.
04:35:54.780 Right, right.
04:35:55.220 But most people are not going to.
04:35:57.300 Look, but me and Sav, we had a slight disagreement on this here.
04:36:01.060 And I would like to, I guess, kind of wrap on that part.
04:36:04.520 um so i i get what you're saying about there can definitely be periods like first off um this isn't
04:36:12.500 this isn't me under no circumstance should anything ever be forced so this isn't just 0.76
04:36:19.920 to be clear this isn't like there should be like forcing anyone to do anything um wives are not
04:36:25.500 should not be forced they don't like i think in a monogamous relationship or marriage i do think
04:36:33.040 both man and woman has a duty to each other, uh, to, um, for the health of the relationship.
04:36:44.020 Uh, I think that there is a non force driven duty to, uh, have sex with your partner. And that, 0.51
04:36:52.320 that applies to the man and the woman. Sometimes, by the way, men, we have a limit. Y'all can keep,
04:36:58.720 you all can really keep going you know so sometimes the woman has a voracious sexual appetite and the 0.99
04:37:05.000 guy can't keep up and it's like shit i got a refractory period 30 minutes give me a break 1.00
04:37:09.800 i can't get it hard again after two minutes calm down lady wait um but like um and also from a 0.98
04:37:19.500 christian i googled this from a christian perspective um it says husbands and wives 0.94
04:37:24.380 have responsibilities towards each other sexually yes uh it doesn't mean that you know you owe sex
04:37:30.980 on demand but i mean if you agree to that then so be it but um the husband and wife should give
04:37:37.620 each other marital affection and neither spouse should unilaterally deprive the other of sexual
04:37:42.420 intimacy except by mutual agreement for a time and look i think like i want to make something
04:37:48.540 clear these guys who like oh you know my girlfriend's like has like the worst case of
04:37:53.880 stomach flu ever. And she doesn't want to fuck. So I'm going to go cheat on her. That's ridiculous. 1.00
04:37:58.080 If your girlfriend is sick, you should be there for her, get her the barf bucket, 1.00
04:38:03.080 hold her hair back. Well, I guess that's more of a drink alcohol throwing up thing, but
04:38:06.560 you should be there and try to be there for her, you know? And like, if she's ill or sick or
04:38:14.920 whatever it is, then that's totally okay. If like, she's not in the mood, sometimes I'm
04:38:19.620 got a headache or you know whatever so sometimes the girl she wants to fuck and i'm like 0.98
04:38:25.440 and tomorrow you know and that's okay i think that's okay in a relationship 1.00
04:38:30.560 uh but i don't know in her case months
04:38:36.280 divorce or if he wants to say i'm okay with the porn i'm okay with it because here's the i think
04:38:48.140 here's where the initial contention came you admit you stopped having sex with the guy um
04:38:54.460 he started watching porn like i feel like if you have an issue with him watching porn 0.95
04:39:01.440 when the sex has stopped your solution is to have sex with the guy like i don't know if i wasn't 0.99
04:39:10.560 having sex with my gal my old lady and she starts reading like weird romance novels about 1.00
04:39:17.340 centaurs and shit who am i to complain i'm not giving her dick who am i yeah you women have 1.00
04:39:26.000 some weird vampire centaur werewolf billionaire shit look i'll be look my future girlfriend 1.00
04:39:33.560 future future girlfriend future wife never getting married but future wife of brian atlas 1.00
04:39:39.780 Miss Atlas, if I stop giving you penis, I give you permission to, you can read all your 1.00
04:39:47.520 gooner fucking fantasy novels, go ahead, go ahead, I'm not doing my, I'm fucking up, I 1.00
04:39:53.600 can take accountability, go ahead, read your smut, or whatever it's called, I'm a nice 0.99
04:39:57.760 guy, what can I say, um, all right, I don't know where I was going with that, uh, final
04:40:03.280 thing, final thing, all right, I know how this stemmed from, and I'll let you come in
04:40:07.580 in a sec we were talking about sexual coercion uh and i think the question was simply um
04:40:14.160 that they consider it to be grape if the husband threatens to like break up with the wife or the
04:40:23.820 girlfriend or whatever because she won't have sex do you would you consider that like where
04:40:29.400 because you're you're an advocate right where do you fall on that debate is that sexual coercion
04:40:34.620 saying you're going to break up with someone
04:40:36.900 because they're not having sex with you?
04:40:39.100 Or where do you fall? 0.83
04:40:42.860 It could be.
04:40:46.880 Could be.
04:40:47.860 Yeah.
04:40:48.440 Okay.
04:40:49.200 So, like, let's say, hypothetical.
04:40:52.900 I say a man has a girlfriend.
04:40:57.740 And he's been, they've been together for three years.
04:41:00.460 And then the sex has dwindled.
04:41:02.520 and she's rejected this poor guy for three months no sex three months he tries every other day and
04:41:08.820 he always respects he's like you want to no okay that's fine uh doesn't force just stops there
04:41:15.280 they go to therapy and she's like look you know she's not ill no no sickness
04:41:20.300 uh she's just like you know i'm just uh you know kind of just over it or whatever
04:41:29.980 over the sex love you still over the sex and the final time the straw that breaks the camel's back
04:41:38.200 she rejects him and he says i'm filing a divorce
04:41:42.840 and then she still wants to be with him she loves him but for some reason she doesn't want to have
04:41:49.860 i know it's a super crazy well maybe it's not that crazy of a hypothetical it might not even
04:41:55.420 be that crazy of a hypothetical she still loves him still wants to be with him say they have kids
04:41:59.900 even right that complicates things and he says i'm gonna get a divorce and then she's like oh i 0.99
04:42:05.820 didn't know it was that bad no no no okay okay okay hold on hold on i'll have sex with you right 0.98
04:42:12.900 now and she has sex with him when she otherwise would have not wanted to have sex is it right 0.99
04:42:17.880 oh i see what you're saying the the mindset change i don't necessarily agree with now that
04:42:23.960 it's such extreme and they're gonna get a divorce or separate well i don't agree with that and don't
04:42:28.900 agree with what the females particularly making her him stay and just giving him what he wants i
04:42:34.720 don't agree with doing that if you truly don't you don't agree with doing that in the sense that
04:42:38.760 the woman shouldn't do that i'm saying if she's truly sexless and that's the position she's at
04:42:43.940 she shouldn't just have sex with him that's not the question though you're saying is that 0.87
04:42:49.820 sexual coercion sexual coercion that has occurred i would have to lean no unless she truly just did
04:42:56.960 not have sex again after that and said okay we have to divorce then obviously I would say he is
04:43:05.260 because he's saying you need to give it to me now or we're going to divorce no no well hold on
04:43:10.260 that's not what really is going on um I'm just simply saying the husband he attempts so the
04:43:18.480 context of the divorce conversation is his failed attempt and the rejection so he attempts she
04:43:25.440 rejects he says you know what this has been going on for way too long i'm divorcing you goodbye
04:43:32.480 now there's not uh well yeah let's just leave it there and then knowing what the stakes are 1.00
04:43:40.360 the woman's like no no no no i uh i don't want to have sex but um i i want you to stay so i'm 1.00
04:43:46.760 gonna have sex with you what's she i said oh i don't think she should have done that 0.96
04:43:53.340 You're not answering the question 0.99
04:43:55.660 I'm not just going to say if it's essay or not 1.00
04:43:57.300 I don't think she should have just changed her mindset like that
04:43:59.740 Okay, but that doesn't answer the question though
04:44:04.480 But why would I have to answer that particular question?
04:44:07.240 She's the one manipulating him
04:44:08.860 She says everything is the same
04:44:11.600 And then after the fact
04:44:13.400 She says she's been essayed
04:44:15.120 Do you believe her?
04:44:19.160 Do you believe that she's been essayed?
04:44:23.340 I guess I would change my mindset because of the communication and he knew that she didn't want
04:44:29.260 that. Well, hold on. So the scenario again, she's been rejecting him for three months straight.
04:44:37.180 They go to therapy, didn't work. He tries one more time. Now he doesn't say, I'm going to try
04:44:43.340 one more time. And if he doesn't say that he tries one more time, he's at his last, it's the last
04:44:49.340 end. He doesn't say something like, if you don't fuck me, I'm divorcing you. She simply rejects him 1.00
04:44:56.860 for the hundredth time. And then he says, I'm filing a divorce. Goodbye. To induce him to stay,
04:45:08.280 she then has sex that she otherwise doesn't want to, but he doesn't force her to do it.
04:45:15.500 she's doing it to keep him in the relationship because she doesn't want she loves him she just
04:45:23.120 i don't know doesn't want to have sex with him kind of whatever probably happens
04:45:26.920 is it sa like objectively is it sa i feel like you're trying to get me to push me a different
04:45:35.780 direction on logic but we actually agree on it that she shouldn't have never done that's not 0.63
04:45:39.720 the question bro i know but that's that's my answer okay should should people murder
04:45:47.440 no people shouldn't murder okay but when people do murder there should be consequences what should
04:45:52.460 be the consequence um jail so i agree with you like she should she probably shouldn't have done
04:45:57.820 that although well hmm am i willing to grant that i mean i don't think it's necessarily wrong
04:46:08.620 like for her to like compromise i don't think it's wrong for a woman to compromise
04:46:13.760 and have sex i would think it's manipulative because then she's going to go on and who's 1.00
04:46:19.580 manipulating who she's manipulating because she's manipulating him she's going to have it in this 1.00
04:46:24.000 instance and then what highly likely that later down the line she's still not going to want to
04:46:28.760 have sex so she's manipulating it and that moment to well maybe she realized maybe it's a come to
04:46:33.600 god moment she realizes how big the stakes are and she's like you know what let's compromise 1.00
04:46:38.580 i'll fuck twice a week and he's like okay i can do that and then she fucks twice a week and it's 0.99
04:46:45.460 like duty sex or something has she been that said i don't think he's gonna enjoy it that's not the 0.99
04:46:51.400 question i know is it i say there's no way i agree that she's being manipulative is it i say though
04:46:58.880 i don't i don't understand the point of this logic when people are actually
04:47:07.320 really essayed in this circumstance alone because they literally want to define they literally i
04:47:13.640 could look up like the um what's the organization like rain or whatever um i could literally look
04:47:19.140 it up and in their statistics that they release here's our definition of rape and sexual violence
04:47:25.060 Under it includes sexual coercion
04:47:27.140 And they'll literally define that as
04:47:28.940 Threats of ending the relationship 0.67
04:47:30.760 I think that's completely ridiculous 1.00
04:47:32.740 If a girl doesn't 1.00
04:47:33.960 If I don't fuck my girlfriend for three months 1.00
04:47:36.500 And she's like, Brian, I really like sex 1.00
04:47:38.900 I'm sorry, I'm going to dump you 1.00
04:47:41.120 If you don't fuck me anymore 1.00
04:47:42.320 And then I'm like, oh, I really love this girl 1.00
04:47:44.600 Okay, I'm going to have sex with her 1.00
04:47:45.780 That's consent 1.00
04:47:46.840 I think you don't think that that's
04:47:50.520 I think that that's consent
04:47:52.520 Even if I'm not as enthusiastic about it 1.00
04:47:55.040 so is my is my girlfriend raping me because i agree to fuck her so i can stay with her 0.99
04:48:02.420 i just said manipulating i wouldn't say r word 1.00
04:48:04.500 wait wait wait wait but you say i would be manipulative so my i i'm not fucking my 0.99
04:48:12.780 girlfriend for three months and she's like brian i need the dick deposit i need deposits asap 1.00
04:48:19.920 come inside me please sir 1.00
04:48:21.700 and I'm like nah bitch 1.00
04:48:24.180 and then she's like I'm gonna break up with you 1.00
04:48:28.240 and I'm like whoa hold on I really fucking love this girl 0.97
04:48:30.560 like I just I don't know 0.97
04:48:32.140 I've been so stressed
04:48:33.260 with work and my podcast and I'm arguing with
04:48:36.180 people that think like black people can't be racist
04:48:38.200 and I'm like been so
04:48:40.300 stressed out and like I just I can't get
04:48:42.280 hard when I'm like talking to
04:48:43.600 like you know 1.00
04:48:45.980 women who don't think black people can be racist 1.00
04:48:47.880 like my penis doesn't work and shit 1.00
04:48:49.480 So I'm so stressed out 1.00
04:48:51.660 I'm sorry babe but I fucking love you 0.97
04:48:53.340 And I'm going to compromise 1.00
04:48:54.860 And I'll give you dick twice a week 1.00
04:48:57.620 So you're saying 1.00
04:48:59.420 I would be manipulative
04:49:00.400 But is she
04:49:03.600 Essaying me
04:49:04.580 Like I said
04:49:07.800 There's communication and you obviously know 0.98
04:49:09.540 They didn't want to have sex 0.68
04:49:11.100 But has she 1.00
04:49:13.580 Raped me or essayed me
04:49:15.440 This is why it's such a great area
04:49:17.820 answer the question i don't have to answer it this is literally my answer that's such a great
04:49:24.520 area there's no black and white when it comes to sa and r word i mean i i think you can be kind of
04:49:31.420 clear-cut i would hope you can be clear-cut but maybe more with r word but sa is just it's it's
04:49:38.460 a lot different and that's why she made to penetrate that's rape sorry say it again oh my 1.00
04:49:44.280 god it's like it's oh my god she wants to like get into the semantics of well why can't there
04:49:49.360 be semantics i don't understand why everything has to be black and white do you think made to
04:49:55.060 penetrate is rape made to penetrate bro she's an essay advocate she doesn't even know what 0.92
04:50:01.200 made to penetrate is a woman essentially forcing a man to penetrate her made to penetrate oh rape 0.98
04:50:08.400 yes oh my god she doesn't know what i'm talking about we have an advocate doesn't even by the way
04:50:13.580 this is like the um i'm not the declaration of essay advocates but i just want to help other
04:50:19.760 people that have gone through it all right okay i'm not going to get a straight answer for the
04:50:26.900 sake of time i have to move on it's like so bad faith she can't even engage like with the
04:50:32.060 conversation at hand i think it's a little silly that you keep uh trying to make her look like the
04:50:36.840 bad guy i mean if she doesn't i would agree with her in that particular situation it is
04:50:42.880 emotional manipulation but in my opinion it's not sexual she's trying to make me look like the bad
04:50:48.660 guy by claiming you're giving her a hypothetical situation no no no she had a this all stems from
04:50:54.300 her having a disagreement with the show that she claims that i do not believe survivors so then that
04:50:59.800 her disagreement opens up the door to well when we're talking about consent or what meets the
04:51:05.640 criteria for this crime and it's like bro like if if women want to argue that they refuse to 0.99
04:51:18.920 have sex in a fucking sexual relationship and the guy wants to no longer be in a relationship with 1.00
04:51:24.180 her you're going to argue that's rape you women yourselves ought to fucking sack up and be like 1.00
04:51:30.940 no Brian absolutely not 1.00
04:51:33.220 rape is a very serious crime
04:51:35.460 and a guy just breaking up with you 1.00
04:51:37.360 and you giving him pussy 1.00
04:51:39.240 so he doesn't break up with you 1.00
04:51:40.480 that's not rape you women should be riding 1.00
04:51:43.160 hard as fuck for being like 1.00
04:51:45.420 whoa we cannot 0.99
04:51:47.360 downgrade the severity of this
04:51:49.340 crime to just 0.74
04:51:50.380 she had sex with the guy because she 1.00
04:51:53.260 wanted to keep him around 0.99
04:51:54.480 it's ridiculous and none of the 0.96
04:51:57.140 all the women here disagree with me 0.99
04:51:58.860 completely ridiculous 0.98
04:52:00.280 i'm the bigger advocate than all of you well i'm the i'm going harder for the 0.95
04:52:06.440 i am correct just because i'm speaking impassionately it's your podcast you're
04:52:13.320 correct yeah yeah i agree with you so you think that's kind of how it's you you think there's a
04:52:17.500 lot of us who are conservatives and you're even still speaking against us so i'm just like i
04:52:22.000 don't really understand where your stance is with women because it just seems like you're just so
04:52:26.040 against us even if we all have different opinions what where's the evidence where's the evidence
04:52:30.840 that now we're getting into a separate topic where's the evidence that i'm against women
04:52:34.380 this is actually an advocation for women there should be some strict guideline or definition
04:52:40.980 for what this thing is if everything is rape then nothing is rape and then what's going to
04:52:45.540 end up happening is if you play loosey-goosey with what this horrible crime is then you're
04:52:52.160 going to start calling into doubt when a woman actually is victimized i would argue that i'm
04:52:58.020 actually taking the pro case on this particular topic the pro case should be this is a really
04:53:04.100 serious crime and we shouldn't water it down with like an instance oh my god like how about this
04:53:11.360 they'll argue it's rape if say a girl has a glass of wine and a guy has a glass of wine 0.70
04:53:19.520 and they've had consensual sex every single time prior.
04:53:25.720 They will argue that even if you've had even a drop of alcohol, you cannot consent. 0.99
04:53:32.800 That's ridiculous. 0.99
04:53:34.320 Completely ridiculous. 0.99
04:53:36.000 I agree. 0.98
04:53:36.840 I don't know why this is.
04:53:37.820 I feel like I'm one versus ten here.
04:53:40.460 Like, am I crazy?
04:53:41.760 Is it wrong?
04:53:42.600 In the history of sex, the girlfriend never had a glass of wine.
04:53:50.140 The man never had a glass of wine.
04:53:52.000 The sex is always non-consensual if you've had a drop of alcohol. 1.00
04:53:57.300 None of the women are taking my side. 1.00
04:53:59.840 It's actually crazy.
04:54:00.560 Why, when this topic is racism, you're not comfortable splitting the hairs the same way you are with rape?
04:54:05.380 Do you see how you're having the same argument I was having, but your argument's about rape and mine was about racism?
04:54:10.100 Like, I'm like, no, we need to clearly define what racism is.
04:54:13.220 And you didn't like it, but you want to clearly define what racism is.
04:54:15.860 Hold on. 0.99
04:54:16.120 First off, total fucking straw man, total red herring. 1.00
04:54:19.780 The logical fallacies are flying from you. 1.00
04:54:22.000 I don't agree.
04:54:22.960 No, I was the one who wanted to look up the precise definition of racism.
04:54:26.760 Look up the precise definition of rape, then. 0.68
04:54:29.180 Let's do that.
04:54:31.160 Can we give it the same way that you did with the other thing?
04:54:34.140 Well, that's what I'm trying to do.
04:54:35.500 But you're not, though.
04:54:36.220 I think from what it sounds like to me is you really care about if these charges are going to be made it needs to be a serious situation and people seem to make anything rape and where I agree with you it should be saved as very serious.
04:54:53.960 i can understand how there are some women who are fragile and delicate and if somebody's engaging
04:55:00.000 with them they would understand their boundaries but it does need to stay serious and it does need
04:55:07.920 to stay a big deal and the claims that are made need to be i agree okay can i ask how about this
04:55:17.220 if that's what you're saying i agree with you on that here's the final question on this i'm
04:55:20.840 to move on to a lighter topic would you guys would you guys agree that
04:55:26.040 provably false claims of essay hurt genuine victims of this crime absolutely and that's
04:55:35.720 women who do falsely accuse and look i want to make i'm not saying the frequency that is harmful
04:55:42.780 to women who are actually victims there's this viral video recently it's not essay there's a
04:55:47.740 a viral video is like this crowd in a shopping mall. And this, maybe you guys have seen it,
04:55:53.060 maybe not, maybe the audience has seen it. This woman is having some sort of conflict with a guy 0.60
04:55:58.240 in a crowd. And there's a bunch of other women there. And she intentionally like kind of shoulder 1.00
04:56:05.220 checks him, like leans back into him. And she shouts out, I've just been assaulted. And to the
04:56:10.980 women's credit in the crowd, all the women called her out and said, whoa, you bumped into him. How 0.99
04:56:17.280 are you going to say like intentionally how are you going to say that and they all were like no
04:56:21.400 that's wrong right yeah and so i would say that when it comes to the i mean provably false
04:56:27.740 accusations that hurts the woman who is actually a victim of this crime similarly i think if you
04:56:35.420 start expanding what constitutes this crime i think that too is harmful to true blue genuine
04:56:45.300 victims. So for example, if you start telling women, Hey, if you had one white claw at a party
04:56:51.380 and you had consensual sex, like maybe you initiate it, but by virtue of you being drunk, 0.92
04:56:57.720 you couldn't have like drunk off one white claw. You're a little tipsy, right? Um, you have one 0.98
04:57:04.040 white claw. You did have alcohol in your system. Therefore you couldn't have consented. Therefore
04:57:08.640 you were raped. Some more extremist people forward that position. I think that that is harmful to 0.99
04:57:17.820 women who are actually victims of this crime by creating a massive umbrella for what constitutes 1.00
04:57:23.760 this crime. So that's simply what I'm trying to argue. And you don't see the similarities with 0.94
04:57:30.300 my racism argument. You honestly don't. It's a total red herring. Isn't that the same thing I
04:57:33.440 I said, accusing small crimes of racism takes away from real racism.
04:57:38.100 You're incoherent.
04:57:39.460 It's a logical fallacy.
04:57:40.700 It's not incoherent.
04:57:41.700 It's not a logical.
04:57:42.460 It is a logical fallacy.
04:57:44.680 It's a red herring.
04:57:45.720 It has no bearing on the conversation.
04:57:47.240 It's literally the same argument.
04:57:49.340 Just two different topics.
04:57:50.600 It's not the same argument.
04:57:51.480 I'm saying the same thing that you're saying now, but I was saying it about racism.
04:57:54.840 But when it was about racism, you didn't agree.
04:57:57.060 See what I mean?
04:57:57.840 It's the same argument.
04:57:59.620 It's a category error.
04:58:01.880 It's a red herring.
04:58:02.540 Well, if the definition of rape is coercion or forced, then everything that she said is
04:58:07.640 rape.
04:58:07.980 Just like you said with racism, you looked up the definition, you said all of these fall
04:58:11.360 in racism and you said that, so you can't, like you're living in two worlds with that
04:58:15.400 in my opinion.
04:58:16.920 It's a complete red herring.
04:58:18.320 No.
04:58:18.660 It's completely false.
04:58:20.060 No.
04:58:21.900 Okay.
04:58:22.320 Explain.
04:58:22.940 Fine.
04:58:23.480 Explain your argument.
04:58:24.740 So my argument is that when we accuse small things, when we call small things racism that
04:58:30.320 are not oppressing people or actually affecting people in a systemic way it takes away from those
04:58:34.880 things and i feel like when we looked up the definition you said the definition says well
04:58:39.480 if it's a superior if it's discrimination so then you said that all those claims are racism
04:58:43.620 so if the definition of rape is coercion and force then any incident of coercion would now
04:58:49.860 be rape so if you don't agree with that then i don't understand there are some forms of coercion
04:58:55.380 that certainly like it depends what we're talking about now we have to define coercion
04:58:59.260 they are trying to label coercion as boyfriends like hey i'm gonna i don't want to see you anymore
04:59:06.840 like so what constitutes coercion so like this would also have to apply to the racism conversation
04:59:17.120 that we were having so it you're drawing a parallel that doesn't really even exist
04:59:24.700 it's a complete red herring um i would not go that far to say that it's a complete red hair
04:59:29.460 and it does exist whether or not you agree with it or can see the similarities because see the
04:59:33.160 rape thing personally affects you because you're a man so you're thinking of men being accused of
04:59:37.460 rape and how you like it and how it bothers you political underscore overtones donated 100
04:59:42.900 i can have racist thoughts and be racist i however cannot be a grapist by having grapist 0.61
04:59:50.500 thoughts they're completely different she you're basically be racist by having racist thoughts i
04:59:56.660 did not say that i don't agree with that so he's right but my position is like
05:00:01.260 he makes actually a very compelling point like so in order to be racist like the threshold there's
05:00:10.540 a different threshold whereas like to commit the crime of rape that's there's a clear like
05:00:16.160 there's a clear threshold there you just said it's not clear though where you're arguing with
05:00:19.600 her about it not being clear and that you want to clarify it so how are you saying that it's clear 0.99
05:00:23.500 you see what i mean like your argument with her is that you're oh my god bro you're so fucking 0.96
05:00:27.600 incoherent it's completely incoherent i'm so incoherent i don't know yes you are incoherent 0.95
05:00:33.880 are you just saying that because you're just not happy with what i consider the threshold
05:00:39.100 of uh racism to be um i feel like you're no i feel like you're just like contradicting yourself
05:00:46.620 kind of with the two arguments because it's the same point like the same point i was making about
05:00:50.120 racism i feel like you are making about rape and i feel like it's like well what instance
05:00:54.620 that is how i feel i feel like you're asking us to have clear lines on what considers rape beyond
05:01:00.360 what the definition says and i'm saying the same thing about racism what i but i also think that
05:01:05.880 there should be clear lines but i think that there should be clear lines as to what constitutes
05:01:10.180 racism. Yeah, I do. Yes. But you're, what you're conflating here is we have a disagreement as to
05:01:17.720 the definition of racism. That, that isn't me saying, hold on, stop. That isn't me saying that
05:01:24.660 there's, there shouldn't be clear. I think there should be clear lines for what is racism and what
05:01:29.560 isn't. Now we might differ in our, what that might be, but I don't understand how you're even
05:01:36.240 drawing this comparison. I feel like you made it seem like for me to have that argument was so
05:01:39.780 ridiculous and you're actually having the same argument. Like it's not about whether I'm right
05:01:43.920 or you're right. Like you're literally having the same argument about rape. So the same way as I'm
05:01:47.200 saying, we need to be clear. So because you have an argument with somebody on a, you have a
05:01:50.900 disagreement. Well, I'm asking for clarity. The same thing you have a disagreement with a person
05:01:54.820 on another topic. Therefore you're not being logically consistent. That doesn't make sense.
05:02:00.880 I'm it's the same thing. We're both asking for clarity and you were going on and on to this
05:02:05.620 woman about it and like asking her all these scenarios and it was the same conversation i
05:02:09.380 felt like it was the same conversation repeated that is how it that's why i said something
05:02:13.620 like i think she gave you a pretty clear answer and you just you know you kept
05:02:18.860 going and i mean i didn't think it had to go on that long oh my god bro actually crazy okay well
05:02:25.460 um i mean it's true um what other disagreements do we have uh the rating scale
05:02:32.960 Hmm.
05:02:33.800 Why don't we do that then?
05:02:37.920 Actually, wait, wait. 0.83
05:02:39.000 Pastey George, you're so fucking right. 1.00
05:02:41.760 Oh, fuck, bro. 1.00
05:02:43.120 Holy shit. 1.00
05:02:44.120 This is how we get a mistrial in the Lindsay Clancy case. 1.00
05:02:50.160 All right.
05:02:51.240 On a scale of 0 to 10, rate your own looks, starting with you.
05:02:54.520 Now, let's do it like this.
05:02:55.640 We're going to do a face rating and a body rating.
05:02:57.920 So I'll go first.
05:02:59.140 Face 4.5, body 4.5.
05:03:01.180 If you can structure your response like that, face, X, body, X.
05:03:07.060 Go ahead.
05:03:08.260 Face, five, body, six.
05:03:10.960 Okay, next.
05:03:13.780 Face, five, body, five.
05:03:17.260 Next.
05:03:19.140 Face, seven, body, seven.
05:03:20.420 Can I have you scooting to the table, please?
05:03:23.680 Face, three decimal one, four, body, three decimal one, four.
05:03:27.660 Great.
05:03:28.020 Um, face 7.5, body 8.
05:03:32.860 Next.
05:03:33.740 Um, face 6, body 8.
05:03:36.440 Okay, next.
05:03:37.780 Um, last time you gave me a 4.5, so I don't know.
05:03:41.180 Just your own rating.
05:03:42.240 Well, you give, like, absolute baddies, like, 6, so I'm, you're grading on a curve, I think.
05:03:48.520 Um, but, uh, well, I mean, I think I'm cute, so, um, 6.
05:03:56.760 okay for all around okay next uh phase three and a half body one okay next uh six all around but
05:04:07.840 sometimes i present as eight you identify as an eight okay and sometimes i seem like eight like
05:04:12.660 i'm really really dressed up people think i'm eight but i'm six since you're a hard judger
05:04:17.740 maybe face no no no no hold on your own rating 4.3 and 4.5 okay all right uh perhaps some over
05:04:30.100 ratings perhaps some under ratings um why do you disagree with the rating i think we all have like
05:04:39.040 a subconscious biased i mean we are fed through the media that eurocentric oh no what is wrong
05:04:48.220 with that but that's the truth we have these eurocentric mindset and so if we see someone
05:04:53.780 with a certain feature we're going to think that deem them as more attractive but in your instance
05:04:58.900 i do want to talk about this though do you think you have biases though because you said you're
05:05:02.860 attracted to white females more and asian females as well so would you think that you rate black
05:05:07.740 females a lot less well i mean i've first off don't leave out the latinos you've mistaken you've
05:05:14.680 mistaken me for only being a white and asian appreciator very rude of you um secondly do i
05:05:22.520 do you do i think i have biases well first off everyone has biases everyone has like preferences
05:05:27.680 um so i guess to your answer your question what was your question again about like the
05:05:36.220 black women or whatever yeah you do you see yourself rating them lower because of your bias 0.86
05:05:41.040 well to be clear i think that there are beautiful black women so i this wouldn't be like some sort 0.77
05:05:46.940 of bias where it's like no black woman can be a 10 that's completely wrong there's absolutely
05:05:51.240 beautiful black women i would say like stacy dash i think is like one of the most beautiful 1.00
05:05:56.460 black queens i've ever laid eyes upon clueless film by the way um she's hot um uh but so i mean 1.00
05:06:06.000 but in terms of my own like preference uh also given the fact that there's like more white women 1.00
05:06:13.400 in the united states also um am i more attracted to like white women asian women latino women
05:06:22.680 sure i'm not opposed to dating a black woman though if that's like what you're kind of asking
05:06:29.700 i don't know um but i also don't think it's wrong to have like a uh like a preference when it comes
05:06:37.680 to race i just like i think that's totally fine if whatever your race is if you have a racial
05:06:44.620 preference that's totally acceptable i think it's acceptable i just think that there's bias in it
05:06:51.380 so how can we categorize ourselves based on that if you're having certain biases and i am as well
05:06:56.240 and i don't fall under the eurocentric value but i would see myself as attractive for somebody who
05:07:02.520 is african-american for somebody that is hispanic so where would i fall under that category for
05:07:07.900 having already subconscious of the eurocentric what we see as beautiful versus someone like
05:07:14.040 me who probably wouldn't fall under eurocentric uh well i mean i suppose there is a
05:07:20.420 some of the characteristics that you can make a like a face rating on uh these are characteristics
05:07:28.820 that that um people who are black can also possess um but yeah i mean i'm probably willing
05:07:36.120 to grant that in western cultures i'd be willing to grant that there is like a so-called as you
05:07:42.200 said eurocentric beauty ideal but like you would also see this in asia too for example where they
05:07:48.460 have like an asia-centric beauty ideal and probably in africa they have a africa well it depends which
05:07:54.600 african country they probably have like their own sense of what constitutes beauty from their own
05:08:00.880 biases so is it only bad when white people do things just want to check no i'm i'm coming for
05:08:08.480 you actually not white people in general i was just trying to see if you would like based on 0.72
05:08:13.980 your previous podcast have maybe statistically rated black women lower based on your preference
05:08:19.020 that's why i was curious if you have ever caught yourself doing that caught myself doing what i'm
05:08:24.800 not saying you don't deem like black women like there are attractive black women so you stated
05:08:29.740 that so we can of course agree there but you're more likely to be less attractive to most because 0.99
05:08:37.200 your preference so yeah why would that be wrong on this podcast probably rate black women lower
05:08:44.100 because of it so if if it's my looks rating uh yeah sure willing to grant it okay yeah but why 0.95
05:08:54.280 would that be wrong though like there's black women who only want to date black men and who
05:08:59.960 would rate me lower because i'm white there what would actually be wrong with that i just i guess
05:09:05.800 i wouldn't agree with the scale of it because you're giving your own independent scale of it
05:09:11.900 when i give looks ratings it's i mean it it is to a degree my assessment of their attractiveness
05:09:19.700 but i i do try to be i also take into consideration not just like what i would think but what i think
05:09:26.880 like a hundred thousand other men a million other men would also likely think like on the balance
05:09:33.680 the probabilities you wanted to what sorry did you want to yeah this conversation is interesting
05:09:38.140 because it doesn't taste subjective I mean I think there are some universal things that
05:09:42.200 a lot of people can agree on in terms of what everyone thinks is hot or whatever but for the
05:09:47.500 most part it's supposed to be subjective and like if you prefer chocolate ice cream or you prefer
05:09:51.700 pralines or like I don't know strawberry ice cream it's a preference it's I don't know how
05:09:57.200 any of that matters right i think this is also his show too and we we've got to expect that
05:10:04.340 he's going to judge us based off his opinion and what he overall thinks is other people and
05:10:10.700 anybody going on the show knows he's going to do it so you just gotta bite the bullet i just
05:10:15.120 wanted to challenge for it and that can be said for all of it yeah and i get that but i wanted to
05:10:21.000 challenge him on that because it's like if i'm rating myself everything you probably would say
05:10:25.740 higher than i should have then at what means because you're probably going to rate me lower
05:10:31.060 and at what means if like an african-american male saw me for example they may have rated me
05:10:36.820 higher because you just really like tall girls and then you're like a temper well so i there are
05:10:43.140 certain um like if you were to ask say well it can vary um there are going to be different beauty
05:10:51.860 standards in different countries different regions you look at the asian continent uh you know well
05:10:58.840 i mean there's a lot of diversity even on the asian continent and even diversity against
05:11:04.120 neighboring uh asian countries um you know perhaps the beauty standard in china versus korea versus
05:11:11.520 vietnam versus um uh japan there might be some differentiation even among asian countries right
05:11:21.100 um i think if you were to go to vietnam the women might say you know the well you're vietnamese
05:11:26.540 right um am i you too uh is it the case that for women in vietnam uh lighter skin is deemed more
05:11:36.160 attractive but for men uh women in vietnam prefer a bit darker tanner skin doesn't matter
05:11:44.200 doesn't matter doesn't matter for men at all okay i have heard something about that where uh
05:11:49.100 that, that it's more, they, they view it a bit more masculine. The men, the men are more masculine.
05:11:56.320 Yeah. I don't know. Um, but again, like even if it's Eurocentric, it's like, yeah, we live in the
05:12:03.040 West. So, and I'm just saying it's a subconscious bias and that's what we have to take into effect.
05:12:09.540 I'm not, because obviously that standard of beauty would be a lot different for me.
05:12:13.580 Can you pull up the discord and pull up the looks tab under resources? I'm going to show
05:12:18.680 you a couple of photos and, um, you're going to just tell me, cause I just wanted to just test
05:12:24.500 this out because I want to make sure you're accusing me of having bias. I want to make sure
05:12:29.060 that, you know, you don't have, uh, in-group bias yourself. Uh, Tiffany, it's just going to be the
05:12:34.320 first one and you're going to click on the first photo. Then I'll show the second. All right. So,
05:12:40.300 and don't worry, I'll do it both ways. I'll do it both ways. So you don't be, that's not fair,
05:12:44.560 brian you're not gonna be able to say that do you have it tiffany okay go ahead pull it up 0.83
05:12:49.000 all right here's woman one uh next
05:12:52.660 woman two uh from your perspective as a highly uh a highly what's the right word enlightened
05:13:05.980 individual uh which one do you think is more physically attractive unfortunately i have biases
05:13:11.040 subconsciously so i do deem somebody as more attractive which one the second the second one
05:13:17.900 well that's very eurocentric of you don't you think i think so but could there be other things
05:13:23.180 beyond just skin color that might be a factor here in our assessment of which one's more
05:13:28.840 attractive yeah age weight now look i'm gonna be fair tiffany scroll up to uh past the sydney 0.98
05:13:35.720 sweeney comparison uh click on that one all right actually wait yeah yeah like the the black girl
05:13:45.480 all right click on the first one pull it up okay beautiful next 1.00
05:13:51.580 so the black woman mogs the living shit out of i don't know what the that's like 1.00
05:13:59.500 Like, which territory? 1.00
05:14:03.560 But I have another one.
05:14:04.960 I'll be fair.
05:14:05.920 I got more.
05:14:06.540 Now you're going to have to scroll way up, T-Dog.
05:14:10.480 T-Dog. 0.99
05:14:11.280 Now let's do some men. 0.89
05:14:12.280 Let's look at some boys.
05:14:13.980 Sorry, not boys, men.
05:14:15.280 Sorry.
05:14:15.840 Some men.
05:14:16.960 Let's look at the lads.
05:14:18.620 You're going to scroll up to Jonah Hill.
05:14:21.560 Do you know who that is, Tiffany?
05:14:23.200 He makes me laugh.
05:14:24.660 He's got it.
05:14:27.120 I'd love to hear everyone's ethnicities.
05:14:29.500 do you have a tiffany okay so um do you see brad pitt yeah okay it's one above brad pitt
05:14:39.560 it's like the guy with the fro the white dude with the fro
05:14:42.500 just click on the dude with the white guy with the fro okay go ahead
05:14:49.820 that's fine we get it okay next 0.99
05:14:57.260 so i think the black man is he's just more physically attractive than no homo uh then 0.94
05:15:08.800 than jonah hill then scroll down do the next one below it with brad pitt 0.92
05:15:12.360 okay that's that's an actor he's like latino i guess uh brad pitt okay white guy more attractive
05:15:23.340 um so i think assessments of attractiveness assessments of beauty
05:15:30.900 it can transcend race uh there's one more let's do uh scroll up you're gonna go um two up from
05:15:40.320 jonah hill it's um actually we have three no we have five okay we got five um do you see the one
05:15:49.500 with the the redhead and then the black girl yeah okay okay do you see where it says jessica
05:15:57.860 biel do you see where it says jessica biel no it's yeah it's one up yeah pull up that one 0.76
05:16:05.700 um you might have to hide us here really quick okay so like black woman 1.00
05:16:14.840 is she the one you were talking about stacy dash that's stacy dash yeah and she's like in her 50s 1.00
05:16:22.200 now she's in her 50s now she can she can still get it all right um all right go up her age make 0.99
05:16:29.380 her less attractive on the rate like would you rate her lower because of her age yes yeah she 0.98
05:16:33.480 was more attractive when she was younger she's still a babe though she can get it 1.00
05:16:36.960 wait didn't she start an of or some shit did she i think she i think stacy stacy dashed wait did 0.97
05:16:44.960 she start an of i don't think really i don't know i don't know i think she did wait um okay 0.98
05:16:50.660 next one tiffany one up look see you guys think i'm racist i'm not racist obviously the black
05:16:58.560 woman is better looking you gotta know who she is though how are you there okay obviously the 0.95
05:17:03.440 black woman mogs uh next one up i got another stacy dash here i got another stacy dash now 0.89
05:17:10.800 i'm not even sure i'm not even sure if this white person i'm going to show you is even a female 0.97
05:17:15.300 i don't know i was wrong i think it's a okay pull it up
05:17:20.560 stacy dash takes the w uh now this is an ai one i guess go ahead pull up the ai 0.53
05:17:30.140 the black black queen takes the w again and then last one the one above it last one actually we'll 0.98
05:17:41.260 do two more three more fuck it next these are all facial symmetry examples right like the 0.99
05:17:49.240 studies that were done uh which one is more attractive on the right okay uh go up one tiffany 0.99
05:17:56.000 okay the sydney sweeney one go ahead
05:18:00.560 just met sydney sweeney and got to show her what a real woman looks like 0.53
05:18:06.020 okay i don't think next you don't think sydney sweeney is that good sorry yeah she's she's kind
05:18:13.880 of face is kind of mid knock right exactly uh thank you one up one up one up one up
05:18:19.680 yeah look okay so i showed you a bunch some the the person of color is more attractive some the
05:18:29.460 whatever you still think i'm racist she probably i didn't see you're racist i don't know where
05:18:35.000 you're going i don't know where you're going with that though no it's just an interesting
05:18:38.360 perspective obviously mine would be more like same age same weight and then um two different
05:18:43.640 ethnicities to compare and that perspective but i definitely get what you're going and i can agree
05:18:48.420 you that age and weight can deter somebody's rating scale based on a universal kind of perspective.
05:18:58.320 Okay, we have something from, wait, I don't know, you didn't put your name on it, I think?
05:19:05.160 Did I not write my name?
05:19:05.960 Did you write, at first, I thought you'd be more like Howard Stern.
05:19:08.800 I did write that. 1.00
05:19:09.360 Nice to women in the industry, but sometimes you are mean. 0.99
05:19:15.200 Yeah. 1.00
05:19:15.700 That's it?
05:19:16.080 So when I first heard about your show, I was like, thought it was really cool because I loved Howard Stern when I was younger.
05:19:21.820 And I was like, I love Howard Stern.
05:19:23.960 Sorry.
05:19:24.440 Political underscore overtones donated $100.
05:19:28.500 As a cis white male with prejudice, 6ix9 mocks TF out of 6ix6. 1.00
05:19:36.620 Oh, you as a black woman, they're saying mog the shit out of her as a Afro Latina woman, I guess. 0.99
05:19:44.540 i'm glad um okay all right thank you political overtones for that thrilling uh message 0.99
05:19:54.240 all right continue so uh so when i heard about your show before i had watched it i so i like
05:20:00.240 that howard stern kind of humanized women in the porn industry because people didn't think of them 0.98
05:20:05.000 as people they weren't invited to things they weren't writing books or doing all the things
05:20:08.620 they do now and i felt like howard stern specifically really humanized jenna jameson
05:20:12.960 to people and i was like oh i thought your show was like a version of howard stern but for only
05:20:17.400 fans and then when i watched it i thought you were kind of mean and i thought it would have been cool
05:20:21.200 if it was like more like howard stern where you're like like making the girls look better
05:20:24.780 okay yeah well yeah i'll engage with that so um so uh i'm somewhat familiar with howard stern i
05:20:33.840 couldn't say i've seen old well no i i mean i'm familiar with him and i know he's brought on
05:20:39.540 he was probably i don't think his show was really an adversarial debate show in the same way this
05:20:46.180 one is and i but i would tend to agree with you he was probably more i don't know if the right word
05:20:51.560 is like um uh positive towards them or he was more accepting towards them um so now but i i think you
05:21:04.560 need to but that was more about me not knowing what your show is about so it sounds like i just
05:21:08.240 really didn't understand are you are you a prior sex worker no have you ever done sex work no do
05:21:14.280 you think sex work is good i don't know if i can say that i think that it is good but you're not
05:21:22.820 christian right i feel i am i i'm like kind of coming back to being christian so i'm like a
05:21:27.660 little like is is sex work compatible with christianity it's not okay so you have a religious
05:21:33.540 basis for having some objections to sex work uh well it's just because everybody has sex all the
05:21:39.000 time now so it's like why it's kind of weird like if people were still like waiting until they were
05:21:42.900 married then i would feel differently about sex work but the fact that people are having sex
05:21:46.960 even sometimes with people they don't like and people they don't want to i'm like well why not
05:21:50.800 make money if you you know i don't know we obviously have to detach sex from sex work these
05:21:56.640 are two different things although some sex workers will say wives are basically sex workers for their
05:22:01.700 husband, which I find particularly objectionable. Now, the other component here is, though,
05:22:07.640 is that from a Christian perspective, you say, well, if back in an old order, back in an old
05:22:16.840 social order, people waited until marriage, and if there was a different social order,
05:22:21.160 then I would have a stronger objection to sex work. But sex work, I mean, it's very multifaceted.
05:22:29.540 sex work and the proliferation of OnlyFans and pornography has very much contributed to
05:22:36.920 this sort of diminishing of a more traditional social order. So from your own perspective,
05:22:45.520 you would have to say that these things contribute and are degenerate. And if you want to see a
05:22:55.720 return to a better social fabric a better better social order which includes like less promiscuity
05:23:04.140 even no uh premarital sex then one of the things you would have to tackle honestly i think the
05:23:11.220 this is one of those situations where uh i'm kind of blackpilled on it 0.97
05:23:15.300 kind of like you can't put the toothpaste back in the like it's just it's fucking over for society
05:23:23.680 basically but um yeah i mean a little doomer i guess but yeah i think like the overton window
05:23:32.480 has shifted so much and i would love to say that we're going to take back the culture we're going
05:23:38.360 to take back society we're going to fix everything um but i honestly don't think it's really going
05:23:44.460 happen so yeah uh to answer your question though um like why i i'm mean to the the sex workers
05:23:54.700 i don't think i'm necessarily mean to the well maybe some of the women disagree but
05:24:00.360 um well like compared to like matthew knoll is it matthew or michael michael well michael
05:24:05.360 knolls is a perfect gentleman he's like i'm more abrasive president or something the way he was
05:24:09.820 like communicating with the women it was very charming and it was very like i don't i don't
05:24:13.620 I understand I'm a very abrasive individual, and I'm certainly not everyone's cup of tea.
05:24:20.740 I mean, I'm a fan of your show.
05:24:22.240 I think in troubling times, we must do away with the polite, the sort of polite, what's the word?
05:24:30.580 I'm already blanking here.
05:24:32.680 I don't know.
05:24:33.580 I think we need to return to, like, you know what?
05:24:36.580 Just straight talk. 1.00
05:24:37.700 Like, this is fucking bullshit. 1.00
05:24:39.500 I'm not going to dance around the thing. 1.00
05:24:41.280 I'm just going to cut to the chase.
05:24:42.320 Now, look, I want to make something very clear. I believe all people, men and women, we all have equal value. We have equal moral value. We have equal inherent value, whether you're a sex worker or you're a nun. You have equal value as a human being.
05:25:00.700 So the women here who are sex workers, I don't want anything bad to happen to them. 1.00
05:25:05.080 I wish them a good life.
05:25:07.640 I perhaps wish, not that I'm heavily invested in this, but I would hope that perhaps, I mean, they can weigh in on this.
05:25:18.060 I think sometimes while you enjoy what you do, I think you guys might even say that there are some negatives that come with what you do.
05:25:26.220 Well, I want out.
05:25:26.540 But like I have negatives doing my own podcast, right?
05:25:28.940 Absolutely.
05:25:29.820 Um, but it can be, uh, there's some pros and there's some cons, right?
05:25:35.880 Uh, I, my ultimate goal would be like to live in a social order where basically like everyone
05:25:42.000 was acting as a perfect moral agent and you, I mean, this is very idealistic, but there
05:25:47.820 was such diminishment in, uh, crime, uh, and degeneracy and you had people, uh, like the
05:25:56.360 social fabric in the this country and pretty much all countries is completely annihilated
05:26:00.440 and i'd like to see a return to a better social order and i think that's going to be very difficult
05:26:05.820 when you have rampant drug use rampant sexual immorality rampant consumption of pornography
05:26:13.540 and only fans and this sort of thing um rampant it can be even promiscuity i mean i can be critical
05:26:20.140 of men too like i think for example maybe we can have some minuscule common ground a criticism i
05:26:26.900 have of men is so uh would be in terms of promiscuity men will sometimes lead women on
05:26:34.500 thinking they want telling telling them uh women that they want a long-term relationship when
05:26:39.900 really they're just trying to get sex that's clearly immoral that's how i ended up in this
05:26:43.860 business because i was tired of giving something for nothing and being lied to and made promises i
05:26:47.660 I was like, let's have an open, honest, fair exchange.
05:26:50.560 You get something, I get something.
05:26:51.920 Now we're good.
05:26:52.880 Because I'm done being lied to, and I lost all hope.
05:26:56.540 I would love to, you know what?
05:26:57.780 Take me out of this, but somebody come and come get me. 0.95
05:27:03.200 But no bullshit. 0.58
05:27:05.660 I don't want to deal with any more games and just the roster. 1.00
05:27:09.700 Well, no, but it is harmful and damaging to women to essentially lie about your intentions
05:27:17.200 in furtherance of trying to get sexual access i my personal philosophy now some people say brian
05:27:23.700 you're not taking it far enough you should be like on the the boat of no sex until marriage i'm not
05:27:30.160 quite there yet but my at least my baseline philosophy is i don't think you should have
05:27:35.300 sex with somebody um at least your well your intense intentions should at least be accurately
05:27:42.460 and honestly stated no more bait and switch no matter what it is you know if the girl and the
05:27:47.080 guy they're both like hey you down to just do a one-time thing i'd prefer to see people pursuing
05:27:52.720 relationships but i don't think there's anything necessarily quite as immoral there as a guy a
05:27:57.860 woman who wants a relationship and the guy says yes i'm looking for a girlfriend and then they
05:28:03.280 have sex and then he goes her that's clearly a moral like immoral it's clearly wrong um i think
05:28:08.840 people should be, if you're my perspective, if you, at least this has always been my thing, 0.98
05:28:14.920 like the, at least from the male, my own male perspective, having sex with a woman once and 0.92
05:28:20.600 then never talking to her again is like a waste of time. I don't know. Like these guys who want 0.87
05:28:25.380 to fuck a girl once, like I need a woman's soul. Like, you know what I mean? Where do these people 1.00
05:28:30.780 get the energy from to do that? It's a waste of time. It's a waste of time. It's especially from
05:28:35.660 the male perspective it's like you got to do you got to do xyz and uh and then you have a roster
05:28:41.060 that sounds so exhausting you got to text all these people all these people and you love them
05:28:45.180 good morning baby yeah it's like take me at the take also i do think that like even if you're
05:28:53.260 really sex motivated i personally think the best sex you're going to have is in a relationship
05:28:58.480 with a girl that you have comfort with and you're both comfortable and but also just
05:29:03.600 practically speaking, like you guys have each other figured out. She knows what you like,
05:29:08.700 you know, what, what, uh, she likes. So from just, and then like, it's, if she, she loves you,
05:29:15.440 you love her. The sex is better. The comfort, the just practical component of like, you know,
05:29:21.660 what gets each other off or whatever. Yeah. The sex is better in a relationship. So I don't know.
05:29:25.500 I never got the, just like, okay, fuck a girl once. And then never talked to her again. That 0.99
05:29:29.740 things weird but um sorry i was kind of tangenting tangent oh the sex work conversation um
05:29:35.400 uh so okay you said you're not like howard stern because you're mean to some of the sex workers so
05:29:42.360 yeah so i don't i think i don't have like hate i don't have any hatred in my heart for women
05:29:48.240 who are sex workers i genuinely wish the best for anybody even people i disagree with uh people i
05:29:53.900 disagree with politically or socially or whatever. I, uh, I never want, like I had a transgender 1.00
05:30:00.100 panel last Sunday. Um, people think like you have to hate somebody if you disagree with them.
05:30:04.900 Like I w I don't wish harm on whether you're a sex worker, whether you're trans, whether you're a
05:30:09.300 woman, whether you're a liberal, whether you're LGBTQ, don't wish harm on anybody. Want them to
05:30:13.940 have the best life possible. Um, but I may disagree with them on certain things. Um, so I
05:30:20.420 would say though when it comes to the sex work thing um there's a couple criticisms that i have
05:30:25.100 now i actually give credit to the to some degree i give more respect uh in some ways to the
05:30:33.580 prostitutes or the courtesans as you'd prefer to be called uh i give you more respect because 1.00
05:30:39.940 that's a fair shake here's pussy 500 bucks or however much you charge whatever that's a fair 1.00
05:30:48.200 exchange but i have a great uh i have a bigger gripe with the or like the pornography chicks 0.99
05:30:54.620 they uh they get money for participating in porn men buy the porn for a set price 0.59
05:31:02.220 that's a fair shake the only fans girls are taking it to a another level which i have some
05:31:08.100 objections to which is fraud um there's always going to be defenders of nude content and i think
05:31:16.500 it's like i i think you can make some arguments against like pornography but i think a much
05:31:22.260 stronger anti-sex worker position is uh some of these kind of manipulative coercive dynamics
05:31:31.200 whereby uh a lot of these only fans girls are basically scamming their male clientele 0.69
05:31:37.300 um and it's basically a romance scam as far as i see it now not all only fans girls do this
05:31:44.640 But, like, I think I could manipulate a woman quite substantially if she had a romantic interest in me.
05:31:50.680 In this case, a lot of these OnlyFans girls are dealing with very lonely men. 0.85
05:31:56.580 And you might say, buyer beware. 0.69
05:31:58.740 They should be scammed.
05:31:59.880 They should know better.
05:32:00.660 They're wasting their money.
05:32:02.180 I don't think it's inherently scammy to, like, sell nudes.
05:32:05.200 I think it's inherently scammy to like sell men, uh, the girlfriend experience to sell
05:32:11.700 men on the, the carrot on the stick of, you might be able to be in a relationship with
05:32:17.800 me if you give me all your money through my OnlyFans.
05:32:21.180 Kind of like the reverse of like when a guy future fakes with you, right?
05:32:25.160 So sort of, yes.
05:32:27.220 Except, um, except he's trying to get sex and the woman's trying to get money, right? 0.75
05:32:34.180 So I think it's a lot of these OnlyFans girls, not all of them, a lot of them will sort of play, give the hint that this guy and they'll do this in various ways.
05:32:46.700 They'll be like she could be an OnlyFans girl who's 18 and says, oh, you know, these younger guys, I don't really like these younger guys.
05:32:54.460 I like older guys. Older guys are more mature.
05:32:57.320 Meanwhile, she would never fucking date a 40 plus year old. 0.99
05:32:59.960 She's got a 19 year old boyfriend. 0.99
05:33:02.120 And so they'll do that to induce the man to be like, I like this girl more and maybe I have a chance.
05:33:08.920 And some of these men, they want that chance.
05:33:14.860 And some of these women will kind of, how do I best explain it? 0.75
05:33:19.640 They won't turn them down. 1.00
05:33:21.600 They'll keep the fantasy going as long as they can continue extracting money.
05:33:26.840 And I do have some objections to that from a moral framework. 1.00
05:33:30.420 But the other component when it comes to OnlyFans would be the women are fraudulent.
05:33:35.360 So some of you do OF.
05:33:37.640 You won't admit it. 1.00
05:33:39.040 A lot of OnlyFans girls have a typer or a chatter or your management controls your account 1.00
05:33:45.900 or you have even AI at this point sending messages at every single hour of the day. 0.65
05:33:52.180 Now, here's the fraud.
05:33:55.000 I'll give you an example.
05:33:55.760 Say Justin Bieber offers a service for like $1,000.
05:33:59.680 and he has, he gets like a second cell phone that he, he's like, Hey, here's, here's my second
05:34:05.480 cell phone. I'm fucking, I don't know. I'm getting Haley Bieber's divorcing me and I'm broke and I 0.97
05:34:10.780 need to make money. And I lost all my fucking masters or whatever. And he's like, okay, I'm 0.99
05:34:15.300 going to make money. You can join the Justin Bieber super fan club. And, um, you get a direct
05:34:20.320 line to me and I'll be messaging with you. Like it's me who's texting. I'm talking to you and
05:34:25.780 it's a thousand dollars a month and like i'm sure there's like some super insane justin bieber
05:34:29.840 fans would be like fuck yeah i get to actually text justin bieber maybe i oh my god maybe he's
05:34:34.700 divorcing hayley maybe i have a chance right but he's not he's not selling it as like you could 0.97
05:34:39.320 potentially date me but if it turns out that it's not justin bieber who's actually messaging this
05:34:43.960 people but it's like some dude in the philippines who's like that's fraud and so a lot of these
05:34:50.240 only fans girls oh you're talking to me spend more money on me because you're talking to me 0.97
05:34:55.260 fraud uh romance scam i don't know i think it's scammy as fuck so i never thought of it like that 0.94
05:35:02.440 um i actually feel like i understand a little more because you know i'm gonna be 44 in a few 0.91
05:35:07.020 weeks so most of my life men were telling me to be more understanding towards people that were in
05:35:11.620 the sex industry and they'd be like oh women don't judge these women and then as i got older
05:35:15.720 it switched all of a sudden men are like oh what are these women doing and i thought it was because
05:35:20.680 the women were making more money but now that you say that i'm starting to think it's different
05:35:25.040 i'm kind of like changing my opinion on it because that's what i thought it was i thought
05:35:28.580 men were just mad that women were able to make more money um well so i don't like i didn't see
05:35:34.580 it as fraud i don't think the position i hold is universal across all men who have objections to
05:35:40.480 sex work um i think there's a whole bunch of reasons i mean i think women themselves
05:35:47.540 uh for example don't appreciate their male partner watching pornography right if you look i mean
05:35:55.880 pornography is just more and more accessible i would say pornography was like just super easily
05:36:01.000 accessible even before of but i think women are going to have a greater objection to of i i don't
05:36:06.160 even really understand the only fans thing because like i could google like big labia photos and just 0.98
05:36:12.520 get that shit for free. Uh, by the way, I don't watch porn. Um, I have, but, um, certainly in a 0.99
05:36:21.440 relationship, no porn, no masturbating. You got to save your energy for your girl. Anyways. Um, 0.99
05:36:27.620 no, it's true. True. No porn. Uh, okay. Where was I going with that? Uh, women don't even want
05:36:35.640 Their partner's watching porn. 1.00
05:36:37.800 I think porn can have negative consequences. 0.96
05:36:42.480 So, yeah, overall, like, I don't know, sex work. 0.90
05:36:44.260 Sorry, I'm getting tired. 0.96
05:36:45.460 Sex work. 0.72
05:36:46.280 I have some objections to sex work, but I don't know. 1.00
05:36:48.340 Maybe some of the women here want to weigh in. 1.00
05:36:49.960 I feel like I want other people to talk.
05:36:51.900 I've been kind of rambling, so.
05:36:56.020 Can we isolate one particular thing at a time?
05:36:59.680 Yeah, sure.
05:37:00.080 I don't know.
05:37:00.960 I don't even remember.
05:37:01.720 There are too many.
05:37:02.400 There was a lot.
05:37:02.920 Can you throw one out there and we'll say something?
05:37:05.640 yeah okay so i mean specifically for you guys so i i was saying like i kind of have bigger beef
05:37:10.880 with like the of girls who are kind of romance scamming men okay that's my bigger beef i know
05:37:15.300 what to say um i would even say like porn has a much like you're just dealing with i know some of
05:37:21.120 you also do of too but if you're strictly just like a brothel worker like you're just doing like
05:37:27.280 it's that one guy face to face yeah in private basically yeah uh whereas like porn has like
05:37:33.140 really can seep out like mass media basically uh one criticism though that i would have for like
05:37:40.280 a brothel worker and i know you guys take fairly significant steps to attempt to mitigate it
05:37:46.060 is i do think that it's probably going to have like some negative impact when it comes to like
05:37:51.720 sexually transmitted diseases okay so brothel working and escorting are very very different
05:37:57.140 there are fewer than 500 brothel workers in the entire country so we're a tiny tiny minority okay
05:38:03.700 and it's government regulated because there are public health concerns public health issues right
05:38:08.640 so we are blood tested and swabbed every single week and if there's any issue which there usually
05:38:14.720 almost never is because this is big money okay they literally have to leave the edge of the 1.00
05:38:20.840 property they can't be on site and these girls i don't even do fluid exchange do you mean the 1.00
05:38:26.560 Do girls who do end up contracting something have to leave? 1.00
05:38:31.280 They don't contract anything. 1.00
05:38:32.840 But when you say they have to leave the property, who are you referencing?
05:38:37.060 The girls. 0.99
05:38:38.020 They can't be on property if they have a positive test. 1.00
05:38:42.100 And most of them will pre-test before they come and apply because it's so hard to get in.
05:38:46.500 It's so hard to get in, yes.
05:38:47.440 Also, if you think about it, we get tested 24 times a year.
05:38:52.940 Well, if you work 12 months.
05:38:54.160 If you work 12 months, you work two weeks out of every single month, you're getting tested 24 times a year. 1.00
05:38:59.300 Some girls don't work that much. 1.00
05:39:00.280 Some girls don't work that much, but I take extra measures to get tested of my own volition and get a full spectrum testing. 1.00
05:39:07.640 Tiffany, can we do two popsicles here for chair one, chair two? 1.00
05:39:11.200 She's young. 1.00
05:39:13.220 She's got the TikTok attention span. 1.00
05:39:16.380 I need to give her a popsicle.
05:39:17.540 so so so to just go on that like it is it is literally controlled by the government sure
05:39:25.240 blood tests and swabbed every week we don't get the results it goes to the sheriff and then we
05:39:29.920 get fingerprinted and we pay for all of it ourselves and some of us take prep also by the
05:39:33.700 way so but but the main thing is that like condoms are legally required sure so it's safer than
05:39:38.820 meeting someone at the club and hooking up i'm not even kissing you see what i'm saying yeah yeah
05:39:43.020 So there's protection.
05:39:44.580 Like, if somebody wants to eat me out, I use protection.
05:39:47.020 Sure.
05:39:47.260 So there's no fluid exchange.
05:39:48.220 Dental damage. 0.91
05:39:48.640 If they want to have sex or get oral, it's all condoms. 0.99
05:39:51.360 So literally, there's no fluid exchange for me. 0.98
05:39:53.600 I know some girls are comfortable kissing, but, you know, I don't do that.
05:39:58.400 And, like, at my price point, I don't see that many people.
05:40:02.840 You know what I mean?
05:40:03.260 So it's almost like I might be getting laid less than some girls who are going out and hooking up at the club or at the bars. 0.99
05:40:08.820 True, true, though.
05:40:09.620 And it might be safer because I'm not even kissing people, so.
05:40:11.760 it just depends on how each individual practitioner wants to run her independent business because
05:40:17.640 you know well i i suppose i would also uh i would also add to this that um
05:40:26.600 this criticism perhaps might even apply more strongly to uh like the porn industry where
05:40:34.600 they're not using condoms for example where i think very very risky the risk is probably higher
05:40:40.120 this specific criticism probably applies more strongly to the porn industry where they're not
05:40:45.800 using condoms they still have pretty strict testing requirements there are other you can
05:40:50.440 disrupt your bacterial biome and there's other sexually transmitted diseases that they don't
05:40:55.800 test for commonly on the right yeah i don't mycoplasma and urea but i don't even know what
05:40:59.640 they are but i don't even play with it like i i suppose my one on like the std front my one thing
05:41:05.920 here is my understanding, at least for the porn industry, maybe it's much more strict
05:41:10.040 for brothel work with escorts. Yeah, absolutely. Well, they don't test, I guess, but for brothel
05:41:15.680 work, my understanding, like you go to the doctor, you ask for an STD test, like full panel STD test,
05:41:21.960 even in porn, uh, they're not checking herpes, right? They're not. In fact, I don't know if
05:41:26.900 oftentimes they can't fully test for it. There's differences and then HPV. Yeah. Right. So, um,
05:41:33.480 Also, now you guys, I'm assuming you don't test the clientele.
05:41:39.220 They have to wear a condom.
05:41:40.520 We're required to do a visual inspection, and we're trained on how to do that.
05:41:44.200 But it's just, you know, the street version of us is like a completely different species, honestly.
05:41:50.040 Totally agree.
05:41:51.760 That's way worse.
05:41:53.900 Because it's unregulated.
05:41:55.300 We lose our source of income, and then we'd have to go on the streets, which a lot of us wouldn't survive on the street.
05:42:01.780 Like, we're not that type of animal.
05:42:03.480 I would just say that you might see higher incidence rate.
05:42:08.940 I mean, can you be forthcoming on this?
05:42:11.040 Do they test for herpes?
05:42:12.620 No, which is why I don't kiss.
05:42:15.680 I don't even want a cold.
05:42:17.540 So it stands to reason because they don't test for herpes.
05:42:21.820 It's possible it's getting spread sometimes.
05:42:23.520 It is possible that the courtesans are, in fact, positive for genital herpes.
05:42:29.760 I don't know about the genital. 0.88
05:42:30.720 i i think that that's transmitted through sexual contact and i well but here's the thing with
05:42:36.260 herpes right so um so you can have legions on like the base of a shaft you can have legions 0.77
05:42:42.760 on like the skin surrounding the penis or scrotum or on or on the scrotum or for women it's not 0.50
05:42:48.020 herpes can occur not just internally but even on like the the labia majora uh so so condoms
05:42:55.980 wouldn't prevent herpes.
05:42:57.800 Well, so we're required to do a visual
05:42:59.840 inspection.
05:43:01.140 You can be pre-symptomatic
05:43:04.220 or asymptomatic
05:43:06.240 shredding. Which means you're not showing any lesions.
05:43:08.760 But you can still get
05:43:09.540 something could be small and it's
05:43:12.000 like the start of a...
05:43:13.840 All true, yes. Either for the
05:43:15.680 guy who comes to see you or one
05:43:17.900 of the workers there.
05:43:20.040 Is there a
05:43:21.900 preclusion from women who have been diagnosed
05:43:24.160 with genital herpes from working
05:43:25.960 in the brothels i you know i don't know i personally haven't had any friends or myself 0.78
05:43:32.100 who've ever seen anything like that i think the girls are pretty paranoid because it's 0.96
05:43:35.840 well if they have it they probably won't come to work they're probably scared but so what you're 0.99
05:43:40.740 telling me is that brothel workers may have herpes they may but anyone may have herpes that 1.00
05:43:46.840 is sure of course you can get it from hooking up with a dude at the bar or a chick at the bar like 0.96
05:43:51.800 No, you're 100% right.
05:43:54.100 But we're wearing condoms 100% of the time.
05:43:56.660 We're very paranoid people.
05:43:58.580 Does anybody here have herpes?
05:44:01.820 I actually don't.
05:44:02.620 I know I don't.
05:44:03.600 Tatum?
05:44:04.980 You?
05:44:05.780 Herpes?
05:44:06.680 No, doctors.
05:44:07.860 Sab?
05:44:08.740 No.
05:44:09.180 Herpes?
05:44:09.660 No.
05:44:10.120 Herpes?
05:44:10.500 No.
05:44:11.020 Okay, all right.
05:44:12.080 Birth control?
05:44:13.040 Anybody on birth control?
05:44:13.680 I have a question.
05:44:14.520 Even if you ask a doctor to test for it, they will deny you.
05:44:17.600 If you say to your doctor, I want a blood test for herpes, they'll say there's no point
05:44:21.100 because most people have it and it's not worth getting tested that's well then there's like hsv1
05:44:26.000 hsv2 and then um you have to different like there's oral and then genital right and like a
05:44:33.260 lot of people have like the cold sores or whatever um i don't even have cold sores i'm so neither do
05:44:38.100 i neither do i but they say they say that like 60 percent of people have like the the cold sore
05:44:44.900 right right it's a pretty high incidence it's pretty pretty common um so okay let's get into
05:44:53.340 more of i have a question sure go ahead you said someone can eat you out without any fluids they
05:45:01.840 can't eat me out without protection so i'm using a dental dam it's like literally a piece of rubber 0.96
05:45:08.360 i hold it over my vagina and they can lick the piece of rubber and then there's other ones there's 0.96
05:45:14.500 other ones that kind of look like have you ever seen surgical underwear no they kind of look like 0.99
05:45:19.220 that but panties it's just rubber panties rubber panties but there's like yeah exactly wow wait
05:45:24.440 hold on yes rubber panties laurels laurels look up laurels and then look up unique
05:45:29.440 but it's spelled l-o-r yeah l-o-r-l-a-l-s and then u-n-i-q for unique 0.92
05:45:35.920 yeah so it's like female protection okay there's no fluid there's no fluid exchange 0.99
05:45:41.500 you know i every girl runs her business differently and i know some girls who do kiss 0.99
05:45:47.240 and um but i do know that the majority of the girls they're pretty paranoid because
05:45:51.820 they don't want to work on the streets they don't want to be unprotected you know what i mean 0.96
05:45:55.800 lose out on an income like that's a lot of months of income that we could lose out on because we
05:46:00.060 just felt like we did we did that with that one person we might lose out on that yeah no one guy
05:46:04.300 is worth losing like a six-figure income no right i want to do you guys provide the condoms yes we
05:46:12.860 pay for everything out of pocket we pay taxes on in addition we pay we pay for the testing we pay
05:46:17.980 for the so they can't bring in a condom is that correct i would i wouldn't trust it like if they 1.00
05:46:23.820 poke a hole or something yeah wait can i propose something to y'all i have here a female condom 1.00
05:46:30.520 yes the next time this is at least this is for you enjoy you gotta use that i want you as a as 1.00
05:46:40.520 a funny as a funny the next time a guy comes to the brothel not never mind um you gotta don't 0.96
05:46:50.000 don't whip out don't whip out a regular condom elise whip out a female condom why is that shocking
05:46:56.920 that's funny though he's gonna be like he's gonna give you a big tip he's gonna be like that was 0.95
05:47:01.380 hilarious okay they're not fans of the female yeah i mean i'm entertaining i do i've probably
05:47:08.280 done it before just check it out oh it's like that yeah it's pretty like wear it as like a raincoat
05:47:15.100 oh but if you want to know we sometimes may i speak on yeah sometimes um people with erectile
05:47:26.340 dysfunction or people with functionality
05:47:28.420 issues, we might
05:47:30.480 utilize those on them
05:47:31.840 as opposed to actual traditional male
05:47:34.360 condoms.
05:47:36.580 You don't have to be all the way hard.
05:47:38.200 They don't have to be all the way completely hard
05:47:40.480 to utilize them.
05:47:41.220 There you go.
05:47:43.340 Tiffany, can you pull up that super chat for me?
05:47:47.380 Alright.
05:47:47.900 Joshua Dillon. Traditionally, almost universally,
05:47:50.520 white is considered most beautiful
05:47:52.000 of all Asians in this.
05:47:54.000 wait alice can you read this one for me i need a water break asians and hispanics 2
05:48:01.060 1-0 not saying all black people aren't they are traditionally not considered top in beauty
05:48:08.040 also i consider myself a three and when i was young i was a solid 7.5 i am 32
05:48:14.100 okay all right uh joshua dylan thank you for that appreciate it man oh wait how's that
05:48:20.880 Oh, my God, bro.
05:48:23.640 Ladies, would you date Brian?
05:48:26.200 On one hand, he is tall, six foot one, blue eyes.
05:48:30.200 Millionaire, funny, only a bit gay, but he has a strange liking for big labor. 0.99
05:48:35.680 Has dad bod, probably autistic, and a small pee-pee. 0.99
05:48:40.160 Wait, do you like big, like, you really seriously, like, want to save the giant lab? 0.97
05:48:44.100 He does in the wild.
05:48:46.180 He wants to do that.
05:48:48.300 Look, I'll say this.
05:48:49.680 um it is it is a grassroots movement for me i uh i do no like i i sort of presented in a humorous
05:49:00.440 way but actually genuinely i do think and this sort of goes for men too i think it's kind of uh
05:49:06.480 unfair to like genitalia shame people because like if you're a woman and you got wizard sleeves
05:49:12.460 you can't you can't do anything about that and if you're a man who's got a uh you're you're you could 0.55
05:49:19.040 be uncircumcised and some women, look, I think it's okay to have preferences, right? But like 1.00
05:49:23.620 people will shame that, or you can be shamed for being circumcised, or you can be shamed for
05:49:27.420 X, Y, Z, different things about your genitalia. I think it's wrong to genitalia shame people in
05:49:32.820 this way. Uh, I do think it is wrong to, uh, you know, because, and I think women maybe get the 1.00
05:49:38.420 brunt of it, this a bit, because, uh, there's a lot of misinformation, right? A lot of
05:49:43.340 misinformation they say oh if you have an outie if you have big labia that means you've been ran 0.98
05:49:49.700 through not true a woman could be a virgin and have big labia you see she's shaking her head 1.00
05:49:54.800 she knows what i'm talking about um and uh i don't know so um also i i only date women with 1.00
05:50:03.080 large labia so do labia start off big because i think i read that they don't get bigger until 1.00
05:50:08.660 after puberty so no one starts off with it like what makes your labia get bigger and maybe
05:50:13.340 get girls to do whatever they do it's hormonally it's hormonally attributed and related i thought
05:50:22.020 yes i i think it can grow over time but um my blade be our tiny yeah we wouldn't be able to
05:50:31.160 We wouldn't be able to date Brian.
05:50:32.680 I was all about it until I heard that. 1.00
05:50:35.100 Oh, shit. 1.00
05:50:36.540 Yeah, many such cases. 1.00
05:50:38.600 I wonder, like, wait, question.
05:50:41.240 Has anyone ever come to the, I don't know if you're there, like, the selection process or whatever.
05:50:46.000 I don't know if there's, like, a madame.
05:50:48.600 Who's the, like, is that the word, madame? 0.89
05:50:50.860 Madame. 1.00
05:50:51.980 Madame. 0.54
05:50:52.520 Whenever you want to have a madame. 1.00
05:50:54.520 Is there a leader of the brothel, like a woman? 1.00
05:50:56.940 Yes. 0.80
05:50:57.200 Like, so there's a person who interfaces with the client and he's like, the guy could come in and be like, I want like a chubby black chick or I want an Asian chick.
05:51:09.680 That's the hostess. 0.97
05:51:10.240 I want a white girl. 1.00
05:51:11.540 I want a girl with big titties. 1.00
05:51:12.740 Absolutely. 1.00
05:51:13.380 Right?
05:51:13.720 Absolutely. 1.00
05:51:14.080 Has a guy ever come into the brothel been like, big pussy, big lady? 1.00
05:51:18.460 Never heard that one. 1.00
05:51:19.420 Really?
05:51:19.860 You'd be the first.
05:51:20.420 But you know what?
05:51:22.040 I call them host stories and they're absolutely wild.
05:51:25.480 Like, you think you've heard it all. 1.00
05:51:27.040 you think you've heard every ho story and then boom another one rolls in you're just like what 0.94
05:51:30.760 yeah god's name no two days are like is it ever like in rush hour too where they just all the 0.95
05:51:37.260 time doors and you guys are all lined up no they call a lineup and then 24 12 girls and you'll see
05:51:44.140 every age every size every color can you do a labia check no no sadly you cannot but you can
05:51:52.360 ask them verbally i could ask you could say you know look i've been labia fished like i've been 1.00
05:51:58.600 bamboozled you know like how guys lie about their dick size brutal that's not okay women have 1.00
05:52:04.560 bamboozled they're like oh i have an outie i'm like i think there might be like some negotiable 0.99
05:52:09.000 rebate policy like if it's just you show up and it's just not what you thought it was going to be
05:52:13.060 is that how people dm you they go hey brian yeah is there something you want to say
05:52:18.480 i have look i'll be honest there have been one or two women who you know they send a little 0.68
05:52:26.860 flirtatious uh you okay uh send a little flirtatious okay deep throat in that thing 0.99
05:52:34.300 go ahead girl what the fuck wait can we hold on listen the popsicles are should not be please 1.00
05:52:40.700 don't be sexual with the popsicles okay please it's okay for you to consume them but do so 1.00
05:52:45.640 in a pg 13 sort of way so please don't be like simulating oral sex on the popsicle you can 0.99
05:52:55.680 enjoy the popsicle ike that's okay please no thrust it okay okay okay wait back to this 1.00
05:53:02.320 i have had some women include when they slide into the dms include the labia status 1.00
05:53:09.160 sometimes they might drop that at the end you know they're not just going to lead with it 1.00
05:53:14.580 But they'll be like, oh, Brian, I like how toxic you are.
05:53:18.280 And you're so funny and toxic on your podcast.
05:53:22.240 You're so great.
05:53:24.360 Now, do you ask us? 0.99
05:53:25.340 By the way, big labia. 1.00
05:53:27.380 Do you ask women ever like how big is your labia? 0.99
05:53:30.200 Is that the thing you ask women? 0.99
05:53:31.780 Okay. 1.00
05:53:32.240 It's just like, they put some riz on that.
05:53:34.300 They put some riz on that.
05:53:35.200 I'll answer your question.
05:53:36.180 You're asking me if I ask. 0.93
05:53:40.100 So you were asking if I ask a woman, right?
05:53:43.960 So, look, I'm super autistic, and my process, I probably wouldn't recommend my process to 99% of men.
05:53:52.280 Also, I have to be, most of the women I've dated in the past couple years, they all reached out to me first.
05:53:57.940 So that, not to say I've shot my shot here and there, but I shoot my shot.
05:54:03.600 But a lot of the women I've dated, they've reached out to me.
05:54:06.380 So that changes the dynamic a little bit.
05:54:08.760 It's a very interesting position to be in as a man.
05:54:11.180 It is a little bit.
05:54:12.500 But, I mean, like, you know, guys on TikTok, guys who have a social media following.
05:54:17.160 Absolutely. 0.98
05:54:17.880 Girls will slide into their DMs. 0.97
05:54:19.160 Normal for you guys, yeah.
05:54:19.960 But, like, just the typical average Joe on the street, like, he's not getting...
05:54:23.080 No, they're struggling.
05:54:23.780 You're that 1% of dudes that all the other guys are like, you giga-chad.
05:54:27.420 Well, no, I wouldn't say I'm a giga-chad.
05:54:29.920 I need a little bit of weight.
05:54:31.060 Yeah.
05:54:31.880 It's not about looks, baby.
05:54:33.280 Yeah, but I'm not exactly Leonardo DiCaprio here, okay?
05:54:36.800 You might as well be because you're still...
05:54:38.540 Decently popular. 1.00
05:54:39.300 You're still, the women are pursuing you.
05:54:40.840 You're a man of stature, yeah. 0.99
05:54:42.120 well yeah but like that's there's levels to this shit like i'm not there's probably dudes on 0.99
05:54:48.340 tiktok or like a-list celebrities you can like divide that one percent up into like 10 little 0.99
05:54:53.540 mini percents like if you want perhaps you had a question tab are you actually autistic or is
05:54:58.460 that sarcasm i don't know you guys tell me i'm probably i'm autistic and i can tell you that
05:55:02.820 you have some you have the autism oh yeah i got the tism i can tell you i have the radar uh i'm
05:55:09.700 Probably slightly OCD and slightly autistic, probably slightly neurodivergent, but to answer your question, yes, I do ask them.
05:55:21.400 So, okay, you guys want the scoop?
05:55:23.080 I'll give you the scoop. 1.00
05:55:23.700 If a girl DMs me, NDA. 0.99
05:55:26.940 Next step, NDA, non-disclosure agreement, confidentiality agreement. 0.67
05:55:30.540 Just like Dave Chappelle.
05:55:31.780 My God.
05:55:32.740 I called it.
05:55:33.580 Well, it's not a sex consent contract.
05:55:35.080 but uh and then there's like 140 question 100 question girlfriend application whoa that's
05:55:42.960 insane or your personal one day i'm gonna reveal it i should sell my girlfriend application because
05:55:48.080 it's really good girls could use it too by the way i have i have one but it's like all internal
05:55:52.760 it's like i'm already it's like 5 000 like things per second i'm processing but will you no no yeah
05:55:58.200 will you ask it like organically in a conversation absolutely if i got like you know only 90 of my
05:56:04.440 a hundred questions answered i'm gonna be like okay i need to know the rest no but you don't
05:56:07.800 have a literal like i'll just send the questions and then i don't have like a written out one but
05:56:12.360 i can make one because i have it in my head so yeah like if i can't really typically i can't
05:56:19.040 get away with this if like i've dm'd a girl or whatever um or like i shoot my shot with a girl
05:56:24.220 but if they come to me like of course like of course 100 questions enjoy like getting into
05:56:31.300 it's actually i think it's fun though they enjoy it yeah they enjoy it they're like i gotta fill
05:56:35.680 up my college application it's intense to uh to date it's intense but the final question
05:56:41.340 the final question on there i think it it is asking about the labia
05:56:46.080 wild and it's on the list and it's printed out it's written out and it's so far down
05:56:51.760 in centimeters it's a very my girlfriend application is is very intrusive it's super
05:56:59.040 intrusive excellent i'm getting toxic the better it's well it's not toxic but it's like intrusive 0.99
05:57:04.440 yeah oh boy i mean it's very robust i should sell this shit to men you should they shouldn't 0.99
05:57:12.980 what they should do is they should be asking these questions organically instead of just like 0.98
05:57:16.800 i just blasted you could help them a little you could offer them an aid like a guide for sale
05:57:21.060 you know i should sell this i should probably sell it what do you think chat to make an app
05:57:25.740 what so one day i'll just i'll do a stream like a solo stream or something or i'll have somebody
05:57:30.740 with me like a desktop stream and i'll just go through every single question and maybe like
05:57:36.320 some of them are self-explanatory some others i'll i literally yeah just like i'd sell like i have a
05:57:43.080 whole if you want to lose your virginity these are the two packages and we can run through them
05:57:47.200 and there's like a whole layout and everything yeah pamphlet you name it yeah i you know one
05:57:52.900 thing i and by the way like just on the girlfriend application i'm actually like adding to it over
05:57:59.040 time more so because i know i'm going to make a video and i'm just like adding some of the things
05:58:05.500 are getting kind of ridiculous just for humor for like content humor i wonder if the clients like
05:58:10.640 the the gentleman that purchased this product from you can even tell the difference between
05:58:14.440 serious questions and like this is a funny this is a joke question yeah but like i mean uh i mean 0.93
05:58:20.360 it is serious, but like some of them are just kind of silly. Like I, I, uh, recently contemplated
05:58:25.880 adding like, uh, what was it? Do you believe in astrology? Do you believe in Wicca? Do you
05:58:33.360 believe in magic? Do you believe in Satanism? Do you believe in, um, there's this meme and it's
05:58:39.140 like, Oh, what's your favorite? Um, you know, what's your favorite sign? And it's like, I don't
05:58:43.000 know, pterodactyl. No, that's not even in astrology. It's like, none of it's real. It's
05:58:46.300 Okay. True. True. I thought you had a girlfriend now. Huh? I thought you had a girlfriend. I'm a virgin. I've never had sex. I offer packages. I just have to. Okay. I'm done. I'm stopping. I'm stopping. Oh, the TTS. Okay. Oh, my God. I feel like I've, I'm not hopeful on that one because I was, well, the optics of that prior conversation, not ideal.
05:59:14.580 The question was, would you date me?
05:59:16.780 I won't be offended if it's a no.
05:59:18.280 You can just give an answer.
05:59:20.980 Maybe for, like, casual.
05:59:24.600 Not casual sex, but, like, oh. 0.97
05:59:29.320 I don't mean casual sex, but not date to marry, because you won't marry. 0.78
05:59:33.280 So there's no point in dating to marry.
05:59:35.360 Wait, I'm married?
05:59:35.820 You said you won't marry.
05:59:36.980 Oh, won't marry.
05:59:38.160 Well, just to clarify on that, I can stay with a woman my entire life. 0.98
05:59:43.680 but marriage whatever but then that would be unfair for the for the woman because there's 0.96
05:59:50.520 no like guarantee you're not gonna leave her when she gets old yeah but if i marry her there's no 1.00
05:59:55.740 guarantee she doesn't leave me but then she takes half of your shit so you won't leave her 1.00
06:00:00.380 well some kind of guarantee but i can't prevent her from divorcing me if she wants to 1.00
06:00:04.460 that's true but you already so i wouldn't sure getting married conceivably would make it less
06:00:10.340 likely that i leave her because of the financial ramifications but her leaving me becomes more
06:00:15.820 likely because of the financial benefits but why would she live leave you if you're a good man and
06:00:21.660 women there's this uh somewhat sexist misogynistic not not everyone thinks like you there are women 0.94
06:00:28.120 that out there that don't give a shit about men you know i'll explain it as follows and you might 0.57
06:00:33.920 say that brian this is very misogynistic are you guys from i'll i'm not a singer but do you guys 0.98
06:00:39.240 know it goes something like this la donna mobile so uh that's italian la donna immobile that 0.95
06:00:51.400 literally by the way uh an opera from oh fuck it's uh i'm blanking on what the opera it's a 0.97
06:00:58.700 wait can't sorry blanking on the opera wow people are gonna think i'm like super gay or cultured i 0.97
06:01:05.680 don't know 18 in the mid 1800s in the 1800s this opera is made la donna la donna wait tiffany can
06:01:16.420 you just google la donna immobile it literally it literally translates to woman is fickle
06:01:23.580 women are fickle now this is this is before the internet before the red pill
06:01:28.760 i don't know why i'm going here go ahead rigoletto i was correct giuseppe verdi giuseppe verity i 0.97
06:01:38.080 think rigoletto no but it's from uh so cultured so cultured i know so cool or gay either one who
06:01:46.580 knows um uh do you have it tiffany just the wikipedia page okay uh the lyrics are kind of 0.54
06:01:55.480 misogyny a little scroll down tiffany uh woman is fickle wait scroll back up really quick
06:02:00.920 hold on it's from uh rigolette oh i was right rigoletto okay scroll down
06:02:06.520 all right now check this out check these lyrics out andrew tate might as well have said this
06:02:11.840 scroll down scroll down scroll down uh okay hold on uh disregard the poetic adaptation that's 0.97
06:02:20.280 stupid la donna immobile i can't i'm not going to say the italian woman is flighty like a feather 0.92
06:02:25.100 in the wind she changes in voice and in thought always a lovely pretty face in tears or in laughter 1.00
06:02:30.800 it is untrue woman is fickle like a like a feather in the wind she changes her words and her thoughts 0.99
06:02:37.140 look not all women are like that but sometimes y'all just change your mind on shit 0.64
06:02:45.200 so i don't know that doesn't really i don't know if that answers your question 0.97
06:02:49.920 and don't run yeah like literally i look you guys are gonna say brian how's the supply
06:02:56.780 um on friday a girl dm'd me wanting to be on the show and she was like i'd love to be on your
06:03:04.780 podcast big fan 12 hours later she's like change my mind 12 hour to go look it's a little bipolar
06:03:14.920 I'd love to be on your podcast
06:03:16.680 Never mind 1.00
06:03:18.080 A woman can be in love with you 0.97
06:03:21.340 And then you wear mismatching socks 1.00
06:03:24.040 Divorce
06:03:25.000 They get the ick for
06:03:28.120 No particular reason
06:03:29.640 And that's just people 0.99
06:03:31.260 But also like a woman 1.00
06:03:33.840 Will also be insanely loyal
06:03:36.020 Too 1.00
06:03:36.340 She'll help you bury the body 0.99
06:03:39.020 If she loves you 0.97
06:03:41.200 Gang gang
06:03:41.720 in this gang gang 1.00
06:03:42.680 till I die 0.98
06:03:44.200 oh okay what do you date 0.96
06:03:47.140 oh my god bro
06:03:47.880 why don't you just think 1.00
06:03:51.440 if the woman 1.00
06:03:52.620 when she gets older
06:03:54.520 and she somehow breaks up with you
06:03:56.440 you already enjoy her youth
06:03:59.480 and her company and everything
06:04:01.020 you're a guy so you don't have
06:04:02.680 an expiration date but now she lost
06:04:04.900 she spent all her youth to you 1.00
06:04:07.000 so she takes your money 0.99
06:04:08.520 I don't think that's the thing
06:04:09.920 I mean, money, you can't, like, take it back.
06:04:14.240 You can't make more money.
06:04:15.300 But, like, she's already, like, her all-enjoyable life.
06:04:18.880 Well, she already received the benefits of being with me for 10, 20, 30 years.
06:04:22.060 What's that benefit?
06:04:22.800 Well, the benefit would be, like, so, look, from whoever I end up dating with, being with, everything's going to be taken care of. 0.53
06:04:29.740 She's not going to have to work.
06:04:30.660 I'm a high earner. 0.56
06:04:31.720 So she's not going to have to work.
06:04:34.700 Everything's paid for, taken care of.
06:04:36.380 so she received the benefit during that period of time but once you stop wanting to be with me
06:04:43.100 your benefit should expire but let's say if it's your wife she could have like 1.00
06:04:50.440 build everything with you like take care of your house or take care of your family or whatever 1.00
06:04:55.140 she's already spent her time investing her time to building the empire with you so 0.68
06:05:01.540 yeah and then marriage only like split yeah but i don't know the idea that i think that uh that 0.99
06:05:09.740 men don't expire look if i'm trying to like this idea that i'm going to be slaying pussy at 50 0.90
06:05:16.620 years old like i don't know if that's really in the cards for me who knows i mean if i lose a bit 1.00
06:05:21.300 of weight i might have it okay i might maybe but i think like i would also age out of my pussy 0.98
06:05:28.340 getting abilities i don't know what i i feel like at least like but it's gotta be much then 1.00
06:05:35.880 i just gotta fuck other what am i gonna do just fuck other 50 year olds i'll just stay with my 1.00
06:05:41.900 girlfriend i already have a 50 year old i'll stay with you i gotta fuck a different 50 sorry 1.00
06:05:49.640 it's a lot of work too to get another 50 year old but what if she's a stacy dash 50 year old 0.99
06:05:56.520 probably not but stacy okay uh oh my god go ahead your answer what uh the tts it asked if you would
06:06:05.060 date me i'm not gonna be offended if you say no i think maybe yeah i don't know you definitely
06:06:15.940 don't know is that before she doesn't know many things is that before or after you do cocaine in
06:06:22.000 the bathroom correct she's been doing like a little bit uh okay uh elise where's the application
06:06:30.260 okay so is that a yes that's a yes or it's okay if it's a no but okay no no okay that's totally
06:06:39.480 fine yes but i i don't have a large labia so you okay that's fine oh boy we would be too toxic
06:06:47.960 too toxic 1.00
06:06:49.040 think of the makeup sex 1.00
06:06:50.960 I don't think we're a perfect match 0.99
06:06:53.500 I don't think we're a perfect match
06:06:55.620 you don't think or you do think 0.69
06:06:57.160 she brought me
06:06:58.340 I respect you as a businessman
06:07:00.900 thank you Tatum
06:07:02.380 thank you Tatum
06:07:03.700 alright what about you
06:07:06.760 you don't put Jesus first in your life
06:07:09.000 so that's probably not
06:07:09.740 if you actually liked me
06:07:14.040 and denounced your love of big labias 0.90
06:07:15.940 so no big labia
06:07:17.620 Yeah, fair.
06:07:18.240 I have a tiny leave.
06:07:19.120 Oh, man.
06:07:19.660 Okay. 0.98
06:07:20.780 She's like, it's an innie. 0.61
06:07:22.540 Yeah, go ahead. 1.00
06:07:23.320 Sabby.
06:07:23.660 Sometimes it smells like some secret.
06:07:24.380 You've got your moments, but you don't believe in Jesus.
06:07:27.800 So you're saying if I was equally yoked, then it's a yes?
06:07:31.140 Is it what you're saying?
06:07:32.420 It's not a no.
06:07:33.440 Oh.
06:07:34.360 Okay.
06:07:34.860 I got some surprising Ws on this.
06:07:39.020 I'll accept it.
06:07:39.580 Thank you, guys.
06:07:40.020 Appreciate this.
06:07:40.680 Thank you for entertaining me.
06:07:43.620 Okay.
06:07:44.540 We're going to blast through the questionnaire.
06:07:45.660 We're going to blast through all your notes.
06:07:47.620 All right.
06:07:49.180 Let's see.
06:07:49.880 What is next?
06:07:50.520 Was there anything?
06:07:52.660 We got some tweets.
06:07:53.800 Did we get the AI gender swap, Tiffany?
06:07:57.500 I don't know.
06:07:59.540 Do we have it in the Discord?
06:08:02.240 Okay.
06:08:03.340 Let's see here.
06:08:05.080 Who has something interesting for me?
06:08:10.980 Why don't we start with...
06:08:14.160 Wait.
06:08:14.500 uh for you tessa you said you will uh keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage
06:08:21.660 yeah do you want to get married yeah do you want to have kids yeah but the kids can have the
06:08:25.920 husband's last name is that correct yeah but you would what you would hyphenate or keep your last
06:08:31.200 name hyphenate okay um you also say men should pay on first dates men should provide protect
06:08:38.580 men should be chivalrous um do you consider yourself traditional or not really no i mean
06:08:46.100 yeah but no see it's all very clear was she like this before the show started i wasn't really
06:08:55.040 paying attention to her that's why i was like she don't know don't worry just forget it i appreciate
06:08:59.320 her eccentricity and i think i understand it being from the bay as well so people from the
06:09:04.800 they are we can be we can be i just see i can't tell if she's trolling if it's genuine i feel bad
06:09:11.840 don't feel bad i think you're super cute she's so darling i would adopt her let's let's ask
06:09:20.820 some exploratory questions did you ever take a short bus to school yeah and i saw you on one
06:09:30.500 so you're on the same one as me
06:09:32.520 oh my gosh
06:09:33.380 have you ever been held back
06:09:36.540 a grade
06:09:36.980 no
06:09:39.520 have you ever
06:09:41.860 okay I don't know
06:09:44.180 where I'm going with that
06:09:45.200 let's see if anyone else
06:09:48.680 agrees on that
06:09:49.760 past should not matter
06:09:52.900 so
06:09:54.700 Kaylee you agree past should not matter
06:09:57.020 this is in reference to body count
06:09:58.580 uh tessa passion not matter you agree uh kiana yes you agree with that
06:10:08.300 uh
06:10:10.340 raz raz raz our dog razelius you can call me raz razzy yeah there you go uh passion not matter
06:10:21.800 sorry you didn't put your name on this
06:10:24.480 sorry it's Robin
06:10:25.620 Robin
06:10:27.120 Batman 1.00
06:10:29.060 the Jesus girls have the craziest names 0.99
06:10:31.340 beautiful names 1.00
06:10:33.200 honestly though good for Sab 1.00
06:10:36.220 over here because her name is so unique 0.52
06:10:38.420 she got her username
06:10:40.020 on everywhere
06:10:41.520 S-A-B-R-E-J-R 0.95
06:10:46.320 that's a pro
06:10:47.280 she doesn't have to put like X underscore 1.00
06:10:49.700 she's got that shit 0.99
06:10:51.540 there's just one yeah i got brian there's no chance i'm getting i have it on i even have 0.99
06:10:58.940 subresia gmail.com nice to the mic i like it uh okay robin body uh passion on matter body count
06:11:06.400 all right so give me guys those of you who said passion on matter just anyone feel free to jump
06:11:13.340 I will bite the bullet.
06:11:15.460 Who am I to judge with my job?
06:11:19.680 Because of the 1.00
06:11:20.700 courtesan brothel work.
06:11:24.280 Tessa, I think you said
06:11:25.420 Passion on Matter. You said Kaylee
06:11:27.420 Passion on Matter. What did you do
06:11:29.300 in Vietnam? Be honest. Tell us.
06:11:31.420 Oh, in Vietnam, we were very conservative. 0.92
06:11:33.320 What happens in Vietnam stays in Vietnam.
06:11:35.680 It sounds like her family's got money, 0.78
06:11:37.300 so probably whatever the heck she wanted to do.
06:11:39.240 I was literally locked down in Vietnam.
06:11:41.180 You were what? Locked down.
06:11:42.640 locked down my family watched me a lot the the vietnamese families that have money we get locked
06:11:47.340 down hard i didn't lose my virginity till college i had a vietnamese ex-girlfriend 1.00
06:11:51.700 but if she came from old money it's different can i ask the two asian women here at the table
06:11:57.280 a question on this i'm asian filipina yeah oh you don't called it no that's no that's asian
06:12:04.880 that's asian you're like the mexico of asian in between orale no filipinos are definitely asian
06:12:13.580 um do you guys rank the toxicity of various the asians i haven't but i could like
06:12:25.880 like how toxic are vietnamese girls men men men and women because there's some kevin wins 0.95
06:12:32.940 it's gonna be different there's some Kevin Williams oh yeah I don't I don't mess with that 1.00
06:12:36.180 you know what I'm saying I don't you know do you guys have I feel like Vietnamese girls are the 1.00
06:12:42.200 most toxic and then Korean men as the most Korean men are the most toxic yeah interesting I see a 1.00
06:12:48.040 lot of like um most toxic um ethnicities and I always see like Filipinos like the top of most 1.00
06:12:54.100 people so as someone who has dated a couple asian women in my day i would rank it 1.00
06:13:03.460 vietnamese most for women anyways i don't know i haven't dated dudes that's wild vietnamese at
06:13:09.940 the top filipina here and then it's kind of just i don't know they're all the same everyone else's
06:13:14.940 third place i guess that's funny maybe you know what korean's third and then fourth just all the
06:13:21.520 others, I guess. I think 0.54
06:13:23.540 there's a statistic that Filipino 1.00
06:13:25.400 women commit the most crimes. 1.00
06:13:27.760 The most violent crimes or something like that. 1.00
06:13:29.580 That chocolate becoming like torpedo.
06:13:35.100 I just think about the food.
06:13:37.740 Okay.
06:13:38.780 But we love ourselves an Asian 1.00
06:13:41.460 queen. I didn't know that.
06:13:44.100 So you guys both agree on that.
06:13:45.660 She agrees.
06:13:47.120 I didn't know.
06:13:49.180 I actually don't know why, but I feel like
06:13:50.960 i also don't wait i have like kind of a theory on this oh i want to hear okay i feel like it's 0.94
06:13:58.100 okay so i think and this this is going to differ well fuck you know i don't know if this is like 0.89
06:14:06.560 bro science total hype like just hype but there could be something behind it so let's well my 0.88
06:14:13.400 hypothesis retarded hypothesis that has no basis in any science or anything i think one component 0.73
06:14:20.040 that might explain it is a lot of vietnamese who came here they were fleeing a war-torn country 0.84
06:14:26.080 and the trauma inflicted on somebody because of that uh is going to have some generational
06:14:33.980 potential impacts so if you're like a descendant of somebody who came here like fleeing the vietnam
06:14:38.600 war and the context of coming here is like war-torn country versus like say you're a japanese
06:14:48.020 person and you came here in the seventies or something coming here under otherwise peaceful
06:14:53.040 context, that war PTSD creates like toxicity. Well, like, I think that I would say that if
06:15:00.140 you've experienced like massive trauma and you're fleeing a country that like your life may be
06:15:06.200 somewhat, uh, somewhat chaotic. And so that can lead to like chaotic. I'd say that's a valid
06:15:15.600 theory to be clear i don't think all people fleeing war-torn countries are going to like
06:15:19.840 necessarily once they're somewhere safe but and also i would say like you know there's ways to
06:15:26.560 immigrate here that you might be able to bring resources but if you're like fleeing a war-torn
06:15:31.140 country or something then that could your financial stability in the country might be
06:15:38.400 you know different or whatever i don't know so i think that you might be right because 1.00
06:15:43.780 Now I think about it, the Vietnamese women in Vietnam are actually not toxic. 0.92
06:15:50.160 Only the Orange County girls. 1.00
06:15:52.820 It's like, I think if...
06:15:54.060 That's what I was going to say, because I'm an East Coast Viet, and we aren't toxic. 1.00
06:15:56.700 It's all, like, all the Vietnamese toxic... 1.00
06:15:58.800 It's the ABGs. 1.00
06:15:59.560 It's the ABGs in California.
06:16:01.080 It's the California Viet, yeah.
06:16:01.860 I don't know if, like, Vietnamese experience the same thing, but, like, in my culture,
06:16:07.620 like, I've noticed that a lot of women say, just don't say anything.
06:16:12.440 suppress all your emotions 1.00
06:16:14.300 don't talk about it because you're going to cause problems
06:16:16.300 in the family this and that
06:16:17.400 and then it comes out in other ways
06:16:19.820 so extremely toxic ways
06:16:21.960 abusive ways
06:16:22.760 and I see that all throughout
06:16:25.220 families, friends
06:16:27.280 is that part of the culture?
06:16:29.740 I don't know
06:16:30.120 I guess my family is different
06:16:32.080 I don't think nowadays
06:16:34.460 we're not like that
06:16:35.440 like my family
06:16:38.720 I just want to also say
06:16:41.120 not all Vietnamese people 0.79
06:16:43.780 are toxic 0.97
06:16:44.420 not saying that
06:16:47.680 to be clear
06:16:48.540 some of them are like there's white people are 1.00
06:16:51.500 fucking toxic 1.00
06:16:52.320 wait how did we get onto that 1.00
06:16:55.800 wait oh the
06:16:57.420 past should not matter how the wait what
06:16:59.740 past should not matter body count
06:17:01.860 because you asked who was the most toxic 1.00
06:17:03.920 out of the Asian women 0.55
06:17:05.060 I don't know what made you ask that
06:17:07.100 sorry I've been doing so many tangents
06:17:09.700 tonight um passionate matter tessa i don't know if you're saying something
06:17:13.860 was i i stand corrected my apologies uh kay kaylee uh passionate matter was that 0.97
06:17:23.980 oh i was like oh shit went shit went down in vietnam right 0.86
06:17:27.660 pat never mind actually actually you were locked down i get it yeah i only had freedom since i 0.98
06:17:35.220 came here so yeah got it okay okay uh well before i ask the next question i'll wait until everyone's
06:17:41.100 returned to the uh table but uh i do have a question for oh she's coming right back perfect
06:17:46.980 okay uh the question is going around the table
06:17:49.980 what's your body count three okay it's like around 30
06:18:00.120 i feel like that's pretty honest 30 uh your body counts 30 wait oh i'm so sorry let's just
06:18:10.580 rewind a little bit um i'd like to have the person include their age can you just state
06:18:14.900 your age be like my age is 24 body count is sorry if we can just start it 24 body count 3
06:18:21.500 18 body count 30 about 30 or 33 34 you lost track yeah lost track yeah uh just curious really quick
06:18:34.200 actually here let's go rounds and i'll come back to it body count so um i don't know what it is
06:18:39.800 but it's not low let's do this can we do civilian body count my before life and then well i'm sure
06:18:48.920 you've maybe had civilian encounters though like yeah okay so okay so only five yeah five
06:18:55.500 wow and then and if you include my job it's like way different well let's then yeah let's
06:19:01.980 differentiate can you also give us your pro number oh i don't know your pro ranking i never counted
06:19:08.080 i was just like estimate i counted the money not the dues you you have a stem a history in stem
06:19:14.320 i wasn't tracking i wasn't tracking the math that's not an asian thing i wasn't tracking them
06:19:18.480 i'd have to sit there okay think about it like my account i've been i'd have to literally look
06:19:22.920 through my finances and like start tagging people just to count them but like you could be like you
06:19:27.160 know a typical week a typical month and a month probably the same three people and probably the
06:19:34.520 same three three or four people every over a hundred over 300 oh no no no no but a hundred
06:19:43.620 over 200?
06:19:45.380 100 to 200.
06:19:47.160 Over 100, but I wouldn't say like...
06:19:49.180 In the range. Over 100, but not
06:19:51.220 towards 200. Got it. Body count.
06:19:53.760 28, and I'm a virgin.
06:19:58.160 Awesome.
06:20:00.820 28?
06:20:01.860 Yep. And a virgin?
06:20:03.580 Yep. Are you waiting until marriage?
06:20:06.060 No.
06:20:07.300 I'm not waiting until marriage. No.
06:20:09.180 You just haven't found the right black man 1.00
06:20:11.320 yet? Sure. 1.00
06:20:13.620 did i just say that out loud um i love that yeah so what are do you are you asexual do you
06:20:24.700 i'll come back to that um body count okay a civilian body count give us the civvy and give
06:20:31.700 us the pro my pro numbers probably 50 and then yeah and then i think pro under 200 for sure
06:20:41.180 Under 200, okay.
06:20:43.000 What about you?
06:20:44.420 29 and body count 5.
06:20:49.340 Did you say your age on this one?
06:20:52.060 She nor I said our age.
06:20:53.720 Oh, right, because of that.
06:20:54.900 Yes, we don't want to start that.
06:20:56.720 Age, body count?
06:20:57.620 I'm 30.
06:20:58.540 My civilian body count is 34.
06:21:02.120 Sure.
06:21:03.100 My professional one is about 300.
06:21:07.240 The pro count is 300, okay.
06:21:09.060 Yeah, they kept track. 0.59
06:21:10.300 Razzie.
06:21:10.700 razzle dazzle what about you um 30 and i don't share that just based off of faith reasons
06:21:16.580 your your body counts 30 clip it no i'm 30 clip it clip it and chip it bamboozled um no i'm just
06:21:23.260 kidding uh okay so 30 and you don't share it yeah in your notes i recall um i don't have in front of
06:21:29.180 me you said you had a past i did have a past do you want to give us a range over 10 10 to 20 so
06:21:36.580 So, I mean, maybe it'll give you a perspective, like, if you knew who your future wife was,
06:21:41.360 would you want her to be sharing, like, that account with all these people on the Internet?
06:21:45.900 Oh, yeah. 1.00
06:21:46.520 I would want my future wife to go on the whatever podcast. 1.00
06:21:52.960 So it's just a little bit on a discloser.
06:21:54.600 Maybe I'll meet my future wife on the whatever podcast.
06:21:56.180 But I can share how many relationships I've been in before I was a Christian, which was four.
06:22:03.200 Okay.
06:22:03.760 Yeah.
06:22:03.840 Four relationships.
06:22:05.480 Wink, wink.
06:22:06.580 I'm sorry I also don't want to share
06:22:09.240 But I can tell you that I'm three people
06:22:11.260 Over the number I said I would never go under
06:22:13.380 But it's
06:22:14.280 Do you want to do a range
06:22:16.880 Can we do a range
06:22:17.880 I can tell you that it's less than 20
06:22:19.480 Okay
06:22:21.160 I'm going to keep that private
06:22:24.220 But I'm 28
06:22:26.480 Body count
06:22:27.800 No
06:22:28.520 I'm 28 years old
06:22:32.220 And my body count's private
06:22:34.160 Just for the same reasons
06:22:35.880 for if I get married one day I'd like to keep that private but what I will say is I never thought
06:22:41.900 I'd be like this before but I feel like God's changed my heart to the point where I'm willing
06:22:46.280 to wait I don't want to like sleep with anyone until I meet my husband and I'm even thinking
06:22:52.500 about waiting to kiss them which is insane this is actually something that I've also said I never
06:22:58.040 thought I would say that before because I love a good kiss but you know I know everybody's like
06:23:02.680 I don't know, I would never.
06:23:04.940 Wait, at least perhaps this then.
06:23:08.560 Razzle Dazzle and Sabby Dabby.
06:23:12.440 Are you willing to say it's not zero?
06:23:16.540 Nopey, nopey.
06:23:18.540 Oh, I'll just say I'm...
06:23:19.760 Like not a virgin, basically.
06:23:20.820 I'm not a virgin.
06:23:21.880 Yeah, I'm not either.
06:23:22.960 But I haven't slept around or anything.
06:23:25.660 It's just private.
06:23:26.660 Got it, okay.
06:23:27.740 Well, I'll say this to everybody, whether you disclosed or not.
06:23:30.660 multiply it by three and that's the real number are you i guess technically still zero because
06:23:38.160 math um what about you oh i'm a virgin yeah i'm waiting until marriage or my which never happens
06:23:46.060 which is i'm forever a virgin uh waiting until marriage uh okay really quick coming back to you
06:23:52.520 and then wait who else was i going to come back to i was going to come back to you uh zero yeah
06:23:56.720 it's just simple i don't no stis i love it a little closer uh just simple have you had boyfriends
06:24:03.360 yep um longest relationship again four years four years yes was that high school or was that
06:24:09.900 it was at the it was like you know like a high school sweetheart going in to college yeah but
06:24:16.280 i went away to college and he cheated on me and wait where where do you live again i live in like
06:24:22.380 ontario you're in canada yeah were you not doing it because um it was illegal or something yes in
06:24:29.060 canada sex is a crime no no sex no it's just really cold so you don't want to you know that
06:24:34.780 you know what that's valid cold that's valid sometimes it's like yeah do we it's kind of 0.96
06:24:41.760 cold you know has anyone here turned down sex because of the temperature no what if it's too
06:24:48.920 hot yeah whatever welcome to nevada i guess what's the air conditioned right this must not be that
06:24:55.380 good then yeah if you're like no i got the it's chilly i'm so cold so just be clear you're a rapper 0.98
06:25:02.280 yes a virgin you're a 28 year old virgin rapper that's correct you rap about like sex i rap you're 0.98
06:25:13.300 gonna have to find out oh yeah find out tomorrow tonight 12 that's confusing wait so nothing though 1.00
06:25:22.540 like oral sex no because some girls will give nothing lowies good for you you know 1.00
06:25:27.840 they were not the loophole anal sex no no do the loophole 1.00
06:25:32.380 i know i know i liked you way before you said that so what okay i gotta investigate i'm 0.95
06:25:40.780 investigating this now what are you looking for
06:25:45.700 i don't even know but like jesus yeah amen question though are you um you you said you're
06:25:57.980 not waiting until marriage though so like hypothetically like the right guy could come
06:26:03.500 along and he's like everything that you'd want you would would you say you you're open to having
06:26:12.000 sex quickly or would you still like would you want to wait a bit or what it would have to be 1.00
06:26:21.280 circumstantial because like who's your favorite rapper oh wait oh wait you're fucking canadian 1.00
06:26:26.440 And Drake hits you up. 0.99
06:26:28.680 What's up, girl?
06:26:29.780 28, Canadian, virgin.
06:26:33.200 Drake could pick me up all day.
06:26:36.900 Question.
06:26:38.040 Can Drake hit first night?
06:26:41.000 Yes.
06:26:43.200 Only Drake, though.
06:26:45.600 Wait, Kendrick?
06:26:46.340 Not Justin Bieber?
06:26:47.080 What about Kendrick?
06:26:48.260 No.
06:26:48.760 What about Celine Dion? 0.99
06:26:50.820 Wait, that's a woman. 1.00
06:26:52.140 But she's Canadian.
06:26:53.380 I'm sorry, I'm trying to think of other Canadian musical artists.
06:26:55.780 Justin Bieber.
06:26:56.480 I might let Celine.
06:26:57.080 Justin Bieber.
06:26:57.680 Thank you.
06:26:58.280 Justin Bieber.
06:26:58.880 No, he's married, so no.
06:27:01.080 He's divorced.
06:27:02.640 Is he divorced?
06:27:03.720 No, I'm sorry.
06:27:04.880 I'm saying if he was divorced, would you then?
06:27:09.340 No.
06:27:09.740 JB.
06:27:10.460 You don't let JB?
06:27:11.700 But she might let Celine. 0.73
06:27:12.840 Did you hear that?
06:27:13.300 Yeah, Celine.
06:27:13.860 I might let Celine.
06:27:15.320 Okay. 1.00
06:27:17.900 Holy shit. 1.00
06:27:18.940 Wait, wait, wait, wait. 1.00
06:27:19.660 Tiffany.
06:27:19.960 No, you.
06:27:21.020 Tiffany.
06:27:21.340 that was that was the great heroic mike davis who i've not seen in a very long time
06:27:27.840 i wanted you to leave it up for a moment shout out mike davis that guy's an og that guy's been
06:27:33.340 sending in roasting super chat since 2022 he's the early the beginning so where's he been though
06:27:41.780 where's where you been mike davis hi mike this guy owns this guy owns um like 700 burger kings
06:27:49.360 he's a restaurant
06:27:50.860 he's a restaurateur
06:27:53.020 he's a restaurateur
06:27:54.220 I think we'll maybe order
06:27:56.560 oh we got some pizza
06:27:58.800 maybe we'll microwave
06:27:59.580 Drake, anybody else?
06:28:03.600 any other crush?
06:28:06.020 Ryan Reynolds, he's Canadian
06:28:07.460 Drewski 1.00
06:28:08.120 no fucking way 0.99
06:28:09.920 I can see that 0.99
06:28:12.620 I would love to go in his Fiat
06:28:16.400 so druski can hit right away yeah uh drake can 28 year old virgin canadian rapper um now let's
06:28:28.180 downgrade a little bit though how about a guy you like but um not drake or yeah druski
06:28:37.900 How long are we waiting then?
06:28:42.500 Could be till the end of time.
06:28:45.280 So, if I am understanding this right,
06:28:48.880 you're holding out for Drake, basically.
06:28:52.700 100%.
06:28:53.300 Not even a look-alike?
06:28:54.560 Just a Drake.
06:28:55.600 What about a Drake?
06:28:57.060 No, because nothing compares to the sixth god, okay?
06:29:03.040 There's the one and the only Drake.
06:29:05.820 Aubrey Graham.
06:29:06.520 I have to press a button.
06:29:08.420 I don't know, man.
06:29:09.320 That sounds like a lot of work.
06:29:12.680 You know what I mean?
06:29:15.280 He's worth it.
06:29:16.920 He's worth the work.
06:29:18.020 But okay, would you date a normal guy?
06:29:19.860 Like an average guy who's nice and treats you well?
06:29:24.720 No, because there's still potential that'll crash out.
06:29:27.460 Wait, wait.
06:29:28.160 Well, I was joking about the Drake thing, but are you serious?
06:29:31.920 Yeah, I'm holding out for Drake.
06:29:33.920 Come on.
06:29:34.960 Yes.
06:29:35.300 you're not a virgin are you i am and i'm holding out for drake hold on i've tagged drake in this
06:29:44.580 i mean i'm also holding out for drake like yeah 0.99
06:29:49.820 oops wrong one i do not care oh my god tiffany you're killing me dude god damn it 0.99
06:30:05.300 Aubrey Graham 0.99
06:30:17.940 Alright, I don't know if she's actually a virgin 0.88
06:30:22.260 Wait, did we
06:30:24.200 Oh, here's a fun one
06:30:26.140 You guys give me a rating
06:30:28.200 A looks rating, zero to ten
06:30:29.740 Just face, just face
06:30:30.720 Compared to who?
06:30:32.700 Just whatever, I don't know
06:30:34.580 however you want to go ahead just face four okay six eight okay that's too generous thank you
06:30:48.100 7.5 okay still too generous thank you i was gonna say 7.5 actually mike mike mike face six okay
06:30:57.340 i think you could look smacks yourself oh of course i'm overweight of course i could i've 0.96
06:31:03.080 got dandruff i got fucking redness in my of course i could look smacked all right uh i could get a 0.99
06:31:08.000 nose drop got a big nose what else okay six six next i think you're two points below whatever i 0.98
06:31:13.200 am in the slides i feel like that's fair because my take your color contacts out and we'll i mean
06:31:19.780 they're like i mean i'm uh savvy s dog let's hear it you could definitely look smacks of course i
06:31:29.400 I don't know why you don't, but for right now, you're like six and a half, seven.
06:31:33.420 Okay.
06:31:33.840 Too nice, Sab.
06:31:34.600 Too nice.
06:31:35.020 You guys are too nice.
06:31:35.840 A little too nice there.
06:31:36.540 Thank you, though.
06:31:36.940 Appreciate it.
06:31:37.920 Do you guys want...
06:31:39.380 I only do it if you give...
06:31:41.440 No, thanks.
06:31:41.880 I'm great.
06:31:42.980 No.
06:31:43.380 No, thank you.
06:31:44.020 Who wants one?
06:31:44.760 I'll give one to who wants one.
06:31:47.280 I want one.
06:31:48.240 Sab?
06:31:48.700 I don't like get offended by that.
06:31:50.420 So, no?
06:31:51.360 Sure.
06:31:51.840 Oh, yes?
06:31:52.600 I've been preparing for this.
06:31:53.480 Sab, yes?
06:31:54.720 Yes, yes?
06:31:55.880 You already...
06:31:56.540 Is it different than 4.5?
06:31:57.560 I don't know.
06:31:58.080 Who knows?
06:31:58.800 I don't know.
06:31:59.040 yes or no no is fine no it's fine yes or no okay yes she wants one you can dm me are you sure it's
06:32:07.900 going to be eurocentric are you sure it's going to be eurocentric wait what's that i can dm you
06:32:13.500 is that what you said yeah my rating okay uh so that's a no yes no elise you're strong you have
06:32:22.640 you have strength. Which is the reason I don't care
06:32:24.640 what anyone else is. Okay, alright. Tessa?
06:32:27.400 No.
06:32:28.300 You don't want it, Tessa?
06:32:35.040 What are you looking at?
06:32:36.440 I'm looking at the TV.
06:32:38.400 I'm like, where are her eyes? Uh, Kaylee,
06:32:40.680 what about you? No?
06:32:42.360 So no, no. It was yes,
06:32:44.860 yes, yes?
06:32:46.600 I want one.
06:32:47.800 Alright, so I'll give you,
06:32:50.380 I'm only going to do the looks rating for those
06:32:52.400 who said yes.
06:32:54.040 Okay, you... 1.00
06:32:55.320 Wait, shit. 1.00
06:32:57.040 Can you remind me of your rating that you gave? 1.00
06:32:59.860 It was a 6?
06:33:00.820 A 7.5 for you.
06:33:02.420 And what did you rate me?
06:33:03.540 Oh, no, I gave you a 7.5.
06:33:05.460 Okay, so it looks much.
06:33:06.580 Okay.
06:33:07.880 You gave yourself...
06:33:08.540 Well, you overrated me.
06:33:10.460 You gave yourself a 7.5.
06:33:12.500 I'd give you a 4.
06:33:15.700 You gave...
06:33:16.420 6, I believe.
06:33:17.620 You gave yourself a 6.
06:33:18.780 I would give you...
06:33:20.780 4.25
06:33:23.420 Tatum
06:33:24.440 T-Dog 1.00
06:33:25.940 she's wearing a little more makeup this time 1.00
06:33:28.300 she actually put in a little effort 1.00
06:33:31.240 put in a little effort for the podcast
06:33:33.540 before you came up
06:33:34.900 she's looking fine
06:33:35.820 very disheveled 0.99
06:33:38.840 very disheveled last time
06:33:40.440 I know that
06:33:42.460 I told her we need to work on this 1.00
06:33:45.260 it's like a mean girl's glow up 1.00
06:33:48.800 or whatever
06:33:49.140 No, no, it's like she said, you have a looks max, and she was like, yes, let's do that.
06:33:54.440 Makeover.
06:33:55.040 Okay.
06:33:55.520 You gave yourself a six, Tatum.
06:33:58.120 Tatum, I'd give you 4.44 repeating.
06:34:02.620 Wait, it's lower than the no makeup?
06:34:04.800 I have not.
06:34:05.680 I don't know.
06:34:07.400 Razzle Dazzle, you gave yourself 3.5?
06:34:10.120 Yeah.
06:34:10.820 Actually, I think you slightly underrated yourself, to be honest.
06:34:14.480 I'd bump you to 4.25.
06:34:15.680 uh and you know we can both look smacks you know never mind uh i agree i agree like i think you
06:34:24.480 you know like i used to be so much more slimmer you know i feel like weight you know like i'm
06:34:30.060 over i'm chubby right now and i feel like it can you know i saw like your videos when you were
06:34:36.140 okay sorry it's the autism forgive me okay uh you everyone scoot into the microphone a little bit 0.99
06:34:40.860 so they can see you uh okay uh shit what robin i didn't even have to look i memorized that shit 0.99
06:34:48.380 you gave yourself a six robin um well uh can you do that what's that tiktok thing with the 1.00
06:35:00.380 do you guys know what i'm talking about the bob the bob oh god oh have you done those
06:35:06.840 she's got the yeah yeah yeah there you go that's pretty good it's in right now the bob's in all
06:35:12.300 right uh you gave yourself a six uh you have a very striking appearance very striking i think
06:35:23.140 you're actually right i'd give i i'd agree with your assessment i give you six uh or
06:35:28.600 the color contact's throwing me i mean they're they're like black with a blue line around them
06:35:34.380 5.5 to 6
06:35:38.740 Sab, you gave yourself a 4.3
06:35:41.440 Massive underrating
06:35:42.960 Sabby Dabby
06:35:45.440 Let's see
06:35:47.580 You got a good glow
06:35:49.200 Thank you
06:35:50.700 You probably have some
06:35:52.560 I think you'd probably agree with me
06:35:55.280 Oh my god, do you want the details
06:35:57.580 Or just the rating?
06:35:59.220 Both
06:35:59.460 I would say one of your big
06:36:03.120 things that you probably
06:36:04.840 think would do Supermax
06:36:07.300 is probably under eye area for you.
06:36:09.260 But you have very striking eye color,
06:36:12.220 very striking
06:36:13.160 features. I would give...
06:36:15.480 Hold on.
06:36:17.540 I'm going to go... I'm honestly
06:36:19.420 going to go between six
06:36:21.380 and seven.
06:36:23.160 Solid. That's solid.
06:36:24.740 Six, seven. In that range.
06:36:28.480 It's a good score,
06:36:29.480 but I don't think she's more attractive than me.
06:36:31.780 Oh, okay.
06:36:33.120 i'm just gonna step away now i didn't say she's i didn't say less i didn't say less either i did
06:36:40.420 i think she's a beautiful chocolate woman caramel with a dash of hershey i like it
06:36:48.920 taste is not absolute it's subjective everyone can have an opinion
06:36:52.900 like he can have an opinion too it's not mine it's not my opinion the way yeah well my age
06:36:59.120 definitely makes my age my age definitely makes you more attractive for sure because i'm like what
06:37:04.480 like 15 years older than you maybe yeah i'm 28 yeah so almost 20 years it's not visible so i
06:37:10.180 wouldn't tell people so what does he say i need concealer no no do some filler i think it's just
06:37:14.840 a filler just filler is the devil fill it up you don't even need i don't think it looks bad
06:37:20.000 i think it's just the camera well that's really nice i was nervous for like a whole week and a
06:37:26.740 i'm like oh no no you're good looking you're beautiful i was like yeah she's she's pretty
06:37:31.100 good looking thank you i'm holding it down with a four point he gave you an angel number honey
06:37:37.220 no it's because he saw you scruffy but if he had never seen you scruffy it would be
06:37:44.880 i won't do filler don't worry i tried the thing is i actually did i tried my best i think there's
06:37:50.380 like a surgery where they get rid of that part so i thought he was saying that oh the lower
06:37:54.280 bluff or a plastic? No, don't do a lower bluff.
06:37:56.340 I don't think she needs anything. No, she doesn't need
06:37:58.180 any surgery or anything. She doesn't need a little bit of filler underneath 1.00
06:38:00.120 your eyes. Thanks, Chad. I would definitely level you up.
06:38:02.620 That's my two cents.
06:38:04.480 Oh my god, you can
06:38:06.240 see that. Maybe I'll find your husband.
06:38:08.940 Do you
06:38:10.360 stream too? How do you pronounce
06:38:12.200 your name again? Sabresia.
06:38:14.340 Is that what it cares what you think, Mike?
06:38:17.340 Like a
06:38:18.280 cultural name or something? So my name
06:38:20.220 is Arabic, but I'm not Arabic.
06:38:22.420 My dad's name is Joshua.
06:38:24.060 My mom's name is Sarah, and he took pieces of those names, put them together, and it means noble and majestic, daughter and warrior of God.
06:38:32.780 Beautiful.
06:38:33.760 I thought it sounded cool, like just the name, but the meaning is just as good. 0.95
06:38:37.700 And then I'm not Arabic.
06:38:38.900 I'm Lithuanian, French, Puerto Rican, and Mexican.
06:38:42.120 Oh, I love the Lithuanian, French mix. 0.94
06:38:44.880 Tiffany, pull it back up. 0.98
06:38:45.780 Yeah. 0.96
06:38:46.960 Tiffany?
06:38:47.400 All right.
06:38:48.320 Huh?
06:38:49.060 Go to the live.
06:38:49.980 You can still find it.
06:38:51.780 Tiffany?
06:38:51.960 All right.
06:38:52.820 What are we?
06:38:53.220 I named my daughter after.
06:38:59.080 You have a daughter?
06:38:59.840 No, I'm just joking. 1.00
06:39:00.640 I was going to make a stupid joke. 0.99
06:39:02.360 Yeah, I was like, let's hear this. 0.99
06:39:03.600 I have a question.
06:39:04.220 I was going to be like, yo, I named her after Daenerys Stormborn.
06:39:12.200 Really? 0.94
06:39:12.900 I saw that in the bathroom.
06:39:15.760 I was like, is that like?
06:39:17.280 Tyrion.
06:39:17.820 Yeah, that's Tyrion.
06:39:19.200 Tyrion Lannister in the bathroom.
06:39:20.640 Scroll up, you'll find it.
06:39:21.520 you'll find it you'll find it crossbow oh side note did you guys like the banana bread
06:39:26.440 i need to try it i eat two of them because it's so good oh damn it i've had like four
06:39:31.080 it did not come in that long ago i think you skipped over tiffany his shelf has dragon ball 0.54
06:39:38.520 z and like freaking i got everything like pokemon yeah just click it yo mike davis just show it just
06:39:45.420 show it just show it let's see what mike davis has to say yeah who he is i don't know why you
06:39:51.060 care about i mike davis it's below the threshold but he gets a pass because he's an og i don't know
06:39:56.160 why you care about the ratings from this group of sub whoa mike davis okay mike nobody cares what
06:40:01.880 you think either mike davis you owe these women an apology how dare you talk to my friends like that
06:40:09.060 we're friends no yeah but how dare you mike davis i need you to apologize to all these i know his
06:40:16.680 Comments are usually so nice.
06:40:18.540 Mike Davis?
06:40:19.420 Yeah, I thought he's usually trying to...
06:40:20.540 No.
06:40:20.840 I'm like, hey, I have a burger shop, date me.
06:40:23.520 I thought he's usually getting on girls.
06:40:24.980 Am I confusing him with someone?
06:40:25.940 Hey, Mike Davis, do you...
06:40:27.100 Am I confusing him with someone? 0.97
06:40:27.860 I feel like Mike Davis, he's a black... 1.00
06:40:28.680 You're confusing him with somebody else.
06:40:30.300 He's a strong, independent black man, and I...
06:40:34.000 Do you date black guys?
06:40:35.200 I do, yeah.
06:40:36.360 Would you date Mike Davis?
06:40:37.920 He called me a subhuman.
06:40:40.420 He was just joking.
06:40:41.720 Like, if he said subhuman except for her, then I would have thought of it, but now I feel
06:40:45.320 like... 1.00
06:40:45.420 Send another one.
06:40:45.780 Send another super chat, Mike Davis.
06:40:49.280 By the way, I want to pay you a compliment.
06:40:51.000 You are 43?
06:40:54.180 Be 44 in two weeks. 0.53
06:40:55.680 Get it, girl.
06:40:56.300 Yeah, you look wonderful for your age.
06:40:57.840 Pretty good for 43, I got to say.
06:40:59.940 I got to say, pretty good.
06:41:01.460 Pretty good.
06:41:03.420 Okay, let's blast through the rest of the questionnaire we did.
06:41:06.720 Oh, I had a question for Kaylee and Elise.
06:41:11.840 Question.
06:41:12.240 have you guys have you dated an asian guy before uh my last two boyfriends are asian
06:41:21.080 actually only dated asians oh uh i'm not opposed to another race but okay it just didn't have a
06:41:28.360 chance didn't have a chance okay yeah same year i've grew up i grew up here so i've only ever
06:41:32.920 dated white guys only huh white oh if it's only did black guys white oh sorry sorry i've only
06:41:39.340 I've only ever dated white guys. 0.51
06:41:40.800 Never had like an Asian boyfriend or anything?
06:41:43.080 No.
06:41:45.180 I grew up here. 0.81
06:41:46.420 I was surrounded by white guys.
06:41:48.000 That's all I had access to. 0.84
06:41:50.260 There's in...
06:41:51.160 In America?
06:41:51.820 I thought you...
06:41:52.220 Wait, are you East Coast?
06:41:53.380 East Coast. 1.00
06:41:54.400 West Coast is all Asian guys over here, 0.99
06:41:56.220 but on the East Coast... 1.00
06:41:57.220 There's Asian guys.
06:41:57.980 I grew up in a neighborhood
06:41:59.000 where it was like predominantly white.
06:42:00.960 So that's the people I knew.
06:42:03.500 So you have not... 0.88
06:42:05.400 Have you had carnal knowledge with an Asian guy?
06:42:08.740 as a client yes civilian no i've only the five guys i dated in my personal life are white
06:42:17.280 wow mike davis with the uh why does he hate us so much he's just nobody cares mike goodbye i bet
06:42:25.860 if we were in front of him he looks like he pays for it to say i don't think he even pays for it
06:42:30.160 i just don't think he gets it at all that's why he's so angry we should pray for him he looks
06:42:33.580 Mike, you need my help, but she won't accept it, so it's okay.
06:42:42.540 It's his loss.
06:42:43.600 You should have him on the show one day.
06:42:45.920 Mike Davis, I will say, although I think he may find you guys attractive.
06:42:51.760 The guy, he's never resorted to the brothel because he's just such a charming man.
06:43:00.300 It's a choice.
06:43:01.500 He charms the pants.
06:43:03.580 of women with his dehumanizing yeah uh for elise for kaylee um are you attracted to asian men
06:43:13.760 no not attracted i would have to get to know one right so i don't know them so i don't know but
06:43:20.000 like uh how about like are you physically attracted i'm physically attracted to people
06:43:23.740 who i vibe with sapiosexual yeah like if i if i'm feeling you like you look like a tent in me
06:43:30.900 Can I ask you a question from your civilian life? 0.99
06:43:34.760 Have you ever had sex with a man when he's reading, he uses his finger underneath the word?
06:43:41.320 No. 0.99
06:43:43.280 That'd be a no from me, dog.
06:43:45.800 Be honest.
06:43:46.940 No.
06:43:48.260 Okay.
06:43:48.860 Never. 1.00
06:43:49.320 Because women say they're sapiosexuals.
06:43:51.620 Oh, he's got to be intelligent.
06:43:53.380 No.
06:43:53.820 And these guys struggle.
06:43:54.300 No, he doesn't have to be intelligent.
06:43:55.620 He doesn't have to be intelligent.
06:43:57.060 Like, there's a difference between vibe and intelligence.
06:44:00.080 That's fair.
06:44:00.820 That's fair.
06:44:01.520 But generally speaking, you're not attracted to Asian men. 0.93
06:44:04.780 I could be attracted to a guy if I got to know him regardless of all the stuff.
06:44:09.880 I just got to – we got to vibe.
06:44:11.300 That's it.
06:44:11.820 There's got to be chemistry.
06:44:13.060 True.
06:44:13.900 Okay.
06:44:14.400 Some quick questions for both of you starting with you.
06:44:19.040 Would you rather date a black man or an Asian man?
06:44:22.480 No preference. 0.95
06:44:23.460 If you had to pick.
06:44:25.360 It's the same to me.
06:44:26.800 I guess – I'm curious about Asian men.
06:44:29.580 but I would date whoever I vibed with more 1.00
06:44:32.460 because the looks are inconsequential.
06:44:34.520 Everything being equal, 0.86
06:44:35.740 their only difference is black man or Asian? 1.00
06:44:38.600 I literally can't see a difference,
06:44:39.860 but I have been a little curious about Asian men.
06:44:41.980 Would you rather date an Indian man or an Asian man?
06:44:44.760 I think I'm curious about Asian men.
06:44:46.580 Would you rather date an Arabic man or an Asian man?
06:44:49.020 I think I'm curious about my own race
06:44:50.680 because I've never had...
06:44:51.540 So Asian men.
06:44:53.220 I think I'm curious about me.
06:44:54.220 Would you rather date a Latino man or an Asian man?
06:44:56.940 Latino guys seem kind of hot, though.
06:44:59.360 That's fine. 1.00
06:45:00.180 Legit, that's my answer, you know, right or wrong. 0.89
06:45:02.440 Would you rather date a white man or an Asian man? 1.00
06:45:05.640 I'm, like, pretty much, like, one of those goddamn Asian girls that likes white boys. 1.00
06:45:10.280 So it is what it is. 0.99
06:45:10.860 That's fine. 0.57
06:45:12.420 For you, Kaylee, would you rather date a black man or an Asian man? 0.86
06:45:16.540 Asian.
06:45:17.580 Would you rather date an Indian man or an Asian man? 0.62
06:45:20.980 Indian is Asian. 1.00
06:45:22.540 Well. 1.00
06:45:23.800 Or not Indian, though. 0.88
06:45:25.200 India is technically
06:45:28.940 on the Asian continent, but I think
06:45:30.880 at least in the United States
06:45:32.460 we do differentiate
06:45:34.100 like if we're talking more so
06:45:36.240 Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Mongolian
06:45:41.000 et cetera, Laos
06:45:42.020 Thai 0.90
06:45:43.880 Not Indian 0.96
06:45:49.560 Would you rather date an Arabic man or an Asian man? 1.00
06:45:53.460 Asian
06:45:53.860 would you rather date a latino man or an asian man uh that would be a fair i don't i don't have
06:46:00.080 preference would you rather date a white man or an asian man also be a fair but um for a date to
06:46:06.880 marry i would prefer asian because white man i don't know well for dating only for set you're 0.99
06:46:13.060 saying for sex white man for dating only i don't have a can you can you scoot your mic that way 0.95
06:46:19.240 a little bit yeah so for like dating only i don't have a preference between asian and white but like 0.99
06:46:26.400 for marriage i would prefer asian because for culture interesting
06:46:30.480 okay
06:46:36.380 can i say something that's a bit controversial yes i think i know what you're gonna say what am i
06:46:45.260 gonna say i don't know you say this something about a sex life or what you just so okay this
06:46:53.120 oh my god this is gonna be do i just say it spit it out doesn't mean you're wrong i mean okay you 0.99
06:47:00.040 can and so are you sorry thank you mike davis yeah all right this is a hot take but fuck you 0.95
06:47:05.800 know what i've said some crazy shit tonight why not go all the way so okay i think 0.98
06:47:12.660 if you have kid if if you have wajian kids yeah they're gonna be gorgeous 0.95
06:47:21.760 the daughters will be keanu reeves baby
06:47:26.180 it's pretty good there are some beautiful there's a there's a gold olympic medalist
06:47:34.600 who's german and via and he's like a 10 out of 10 just he's gorgeous like if the goal is to have 0.99
06:47:40.980 daughters it's like you really the wajins are just mocking the shit they'll just mock everything 0.99
06:47:46.440 wajin girls mock the shit but are you willing to trade your but a good man for like this 1.00
06:47:54.820 how bad does it does it actually sound really bad if i'm like i think about it if i wanted sons 1.00
06:48:00.180 that sounds sorry i shouldn't say that i should not just kidding it's all for entertainment
06:48:04.780 purposes not doesn't sound bad i think the chat knows what i'm trying to say um okay uh so
06:48:10.900 anyways um next topic uh okay we did we're almost done with the questionnaire then we'll do 0.99
06:48:16.640 notes and then yeah uh kaylee a woman's kaylee a woman's career money status makes her more 1.00
06:48:25.160 attractive to men why is that um i feel like it makes because in order to make money she has to 1.00
06:48:33.740 have like some kind of class like some kind of education or in order for a woman to make money 1.00
06:48:39.240 she has to have class well like education and whatever um that adds value to a woman 1.00
06:48:49.400 maybe Tiffany hands off the cards please I need your hands on the keyboard doesn't care about it 1.00
06:48:55.060 but let's say two women that look exactly the same like same personality and everything but 1.00
06:48:59.880 one has more like has her own career and the other one doesn't have anything then 1.00
06:49:05.180 I would think that the woman with carrier has more value than the other one. 1.00
06:49:12.500 Okay. 0.99
06:49:13.780 Sure.
06:49:15.580 Yeah, I mean, look, this is just my perspective.
06:49:18.140 You may disagree.
06:49:19.260 I think generally speaking, men are not particularly preoccupied with a woman's money or her career.
06:49:25.080 This is for a couple different reasons.
06:49:26.840 There's a biological evolutionary basis for it.
06:49:29.840 I think that even if a man was inclined to care about a woman's career and, like, if she was wealthy or well-off, women don't share their resources with men to the same degree, generally speaking, that wealthy men or well-off men will share their resources with women.
06:49:46.960 In fact, even if you look at men who are, like, not that well-off financially, men will spend, like, much higher portions of their income, relatively speaking, compared to their female counterparts. 0.79
06:49:57.880 So a guy who makes like 60, 70 K a year, like he'll definitely try to like take girls on 0.63
06:50:04.200 dates and do certain things. 0.78
06:50:05.940 Whereas like a woman who makes that much is going to be much more protect protective of 1.00
06:50:10.260 her money and her resources. 1.00
06:50:12.500 So even when women do make money or make good money, we don't stand to benefit from it. 1.00
06:50:18.700 Certainly in the short term, you might argue, okay, well, like long-term down the road, 0.94
06:50:22.760 you're combining your incomes or whatever you have kids. 1.00
06:50:26.360 maybe then but like a woman will basically oftentimes immediately reap the benefit of 1.00
06:50:34.980 dating a wealthy guy whereas like i'm not gonna reap any benefit early on like she can be wealthy 0.99
06:50:42.920 and still want me to pay for the date not really do much on the money front so i don't know men
06:50:51.480 just don't really care i think the high powered i feel like only the high value man doesn't care
06:50:57.100 much but like the let's say like an average working man they they would care a little bit
06:51:01.460 because it's another burden if she doesn't i'll give you so i agree with you perhaps somewhat
06:51:07.860 differently i agree with you that the like low-income middle-income guy he he'll care about
06:51:15.060 it more but not necessarily from like she's more attractive to me but more so from like a purely
06:51:21.060 practical economic and financial reality. So most people are not going to be able to have
06:51:27.120 most people in terms of their income, you're going to need two incomes to support a household.
06:51:32.580 So I would argue that like that guy, um, he will, he was still prioritized like other things in the
06:51:40.380 woman, like her looks, her personality over income. Uh, so like it, the guy, he's not like
06:51:49.540 more attracted to the woman but from like a hmm this is like somebody i'm gonna be with and like
06:51:54.880 do i have the income myself like she wants to stay at home but financially that doesn't make
06:52:00.780 sense go ahead i think there's a definite cultural component here because i remember in vietnamese
06:52:06.840 culture men and women sit around talking about the virtues of what they have like seven virtues
06:52:12.140 of a woman and one of them is you know so white men absolutely white american men they don't give 0.99
06:52:18.420 of shit they'll date a girl who works at mcdonald's yep you know and she'll be just as 0.99
06:52:22.260 prestigious as dating a ceo of a company if they're equally hot and if anything the ceo 1.00
06:52:27.320 will be less valuable because she doesn't have time for like relationship investment and like 0.96
06:52:33.160 whatever you know maybe she's not as attractive in vietnamese culture they literally looks as 0.95
06:52:38.500 one of the seven virtues it's like tone of voice how she looks at you how like they they literally
06:52:45.060 like productivity like is she a good sounding board is she trustworthy can you talk to like
06:52:49.680 they have a whole different list and they talk about this with guys and girls as you're growing
06:52:54.080 up so you got to develop yourself all the way around yeah but i mean i think probably even
06:52:59.420 like vietnamese or asian men would rank all of those things by the way i don't think white men
06:53:03.880 are purely just looking for is she just hot i think there's other things that matter too like
06:53:09.280 yeah she's hot but if she's a terrible person no they won't deal with that i think a little bit
06:53:13.580 they'll deal with it a little bit some yes i think look i think there is pretty privilege
06:53:18.360 for both men and women and i think uh you know if you're really good looking people will tolerate
06:53:23.380 like to an extent for sure yeah um to an extent but i would say even all of those attributes that
06:53:30.220 you listed i would probably say that like if we were to weigh all those i think some of them weigh
06:53:35.400 heavier or less sure and i would say like the income component of the career component i don't
06:53:40.660 no Vietnamese men really value my way less than like good personality and looks no not in I don't
06:53:46.800 think in Vietnamese culture look I can't that's my two sons this is just me assuming I could be
06:53:51.160 wrong I don't know how to speak on like Vietnamese they consider your ability to earn a living as
06:53:55.960 like a virtue almost like you know you've you've learned how to have hard work and discipline and
06:54:00.840 that's something to love is that like you're devoted to like having money for your family
06:54:06.200 and like it's considered like being a good mother is the same thing as like earning money it's very
06:54:09.820 weird it's a different mentality yeah sure but i think generally speaking if we're talking about
06:54:14.240 like american americanized men 100 yeah then then i would say generally we're not particularly like
06:54:20.780 not at all it really isn't going to be a huge attraction driver like you know i think the
06:54:26.960 like good looking girl who's like a seven or eight who works at mcdonald's is going to have 1.00
06:54:33.060 like way better dating prospects absolutely like the female doctor who's like average looking 1.00
06:54:38.080 like i think she's gonna struggle anything i think that my education was a detractor like 1.00
06:54:43.860 until i started working crappy like jobs like men didn't really like me in med school
06:54:49.540 yeah i mean it's and to be clear it's not like a deal breaker if a woman is uh you know she has a
06:55:00.000 good career makes good money sometimes it can come with certain detractions like i would say
06:55:05.320 for example for the family minded man who wants to have kids and say he's wealthy like you have
06:55:12.200 to have some realistic conversations about expectations like if as a wealthy guy and i'm
06:55:18.300 okay with my girlfriend not working certainly when we start having kids but she has like a
06:55:24.640 massive motivation and ambition to like pursue her career and her education then i'm like well 0.86
06:55:31.020 are the kids going to come second that's a loyalty issue i think that if her priorities are not like
06:55:37.400 with you and the family maybe it's not a good match because the right one's going to want to 0.95
06:55:42.000 divert her attention away from her yeah i think a lot of women are like you guys have the same 1.00
06:55:47.420 career oriented no because then she doesn't have the same goal well but there are women who want 1.00
06:55:52.220 family and kids but also but where are you going to put your energy honey you know i'm talking to 1.00
06:55:56.780 the girl right like she's gonna have to pick if she can do it 50 50 she can split it and then she
06:56:02.300 can do it but a lot of it's not necessarily realistic so i totally agree but i think a lot 1.00
06:56:07.240 of women want the best of both worlds they want their cake and they want to eat it too they're 1.00
06:56:11.640 dropping all the balls so you know the job like honestly they want the perfect career and then 1.00
06:56:17.040 they want the perfect family and the perfect children and they're doing poorly at both 0.96
06:56:20.520 congratulations how do you balance the it's the time necessary it's nearly impossible but i mean
06:56:27.420 i'm not saying that it isn't done but it's the exception it's hard it's hard and usually if
06:56:33.060 you're trying to balance both uh i think pick something one thing and do it well and then
06:56:39.600 be real with yourself you know like true and if you want to if you you know you honestly i think
06:56:46.120 that if a woman's really about her family then she needs to be about her family she's got to be
06:56:49.560 about that business not the business but the the family okay never mind sorry that was cringe as 0.97
06:56:56.580 fuck uh let's see here uh wrong for high bot and I'm gonna skip that one uh let's see if we have 0.91
06:57:03.260 anything wait I was I came to you and then I was gonna come to oh yes I remembered okay 28 year 1.00
06:57:10.840 old virgin wait we have a black woman here are you going to do me a solid have you watched the 0.63
06:57:19.720 show i i yeah i've watched hours and hours okay have you seen the segments where i'm like really 0.99
06:57:26.000 do you know i'm trying to
06:57:28.760 so you can i'm not allowed to say the n-word you're allowed to say the n-word
06:57:35.700 so it's like uh fill in the blank okay ready i'm not gonna do that
06:57:40.000 really i believe her oh my okay never mind sorry sorry cringe um uh going back to you tessa okay
06:57:48.280 you're 18 you said your body counts 33 it's around 30 it could be like five you know or five below
06:57:55.620 sorry i can't tell if you're trolling or okay
06:58:01.780 uh this could be a good question uh what age did you lose your virginity i'll start first
06:58:09.960 we'll go around the table on this.
06:58:11.900 I believe I was 17.
06:58:13.960 I think I was like 17.
06:58:17.900 Sabby Dabby?
06:58:19.520 I think I was around the same.
06:58:21.120 Around the same?
06:58:23.020 15.
06:58:24.160 15, okay.
06:58:25.600 18?
06:58:26.660 20.
06:58:27.340 T-Dog with the 20, okay.
06:58:29.620 20.
06:58:30.260 20?
06:58:30.800 18 or 19?
06:58:32.020 19.
06:58:33.300 13.
06:58:36.780 18.
06:58:39.960 really you're not even going to do it then um okay i i'm not wow i thought we were 0.99
06:58:50.800 i thought you were we were friends what the fuck robin that's fucked up 1.00
06:58:55.740 that's fucked up you had her in the beginning and then you lost her yeah 1.00
06:58:59.700 i probably lost all the women at the table uh in tonight's podcast but um 0.99
06:59:05.540 wait really quick i'm coming back to you tessa
06:59:09.460 you're not my caucasian
06:59:13.860 well i'm your caucasian yes i thought you were my caucasian like sabs by the way you know like how 0.94
06:59:23.960 well i wasn't you rated her higher than me if you would have got an afro latina and we got a black 0.95
06:59:29.360 queen and we got a philippina might as well be black just kidding uh just kidding oh my god sorry 1.00
06:59:34.240 i say stupid shit um she's she's filipina she's a filipina asian queen 1.00
06:59:39.980 to the two black women half black so you're like obama half or something 1.00
06:59:46.320 the mexican obama do you can a black person call a white person who's a friend 0.91
06:59:55.000 my n-word can you do it i i i never do that i only like sometimes if a white friend does 0.86
07:00:05.340 something that makes me upset i'll be like why you do that and i'm like oh wait they're like
07:00:09.700 sometimes i call them that when i out of frustration you accidentally call them the n-word
07:00:14.340 yeah but i don't call anybody like my nigga i don't say that to anyone yeah yeah but like 0.85
07:00:18.120 sometimes i'll be like nigga pay attention and then i'll be like oh i'm talking to a white person 0.95
07:00:22.040 so uh what the fuck like i might say it like in like uh like if somebody's doing something 0.98
07:00:29.140 if somebody's like doing something like i do i do use the word so sometimes you know when i switch 0.98
07:00:35.840 from being around like black people and white people sometimes i'm still using the word and 0.72
07:00:40.440 then it's always like anytime i do it especially if it's a white guy he looks happy like he's like
07:00:44.940 did you and i'm like oh that's so weird so i i don't want to do it but it just happens
07:00:48.960 got it um hold on uh if you ran into eminem just like after the podcast because he's coming by
07:00:59.840 would you call him like would you be open to calling em eminem like your n-word no because
07:01:05.700 one of the things about him that i love is he stays true to being white he didn't turn into a
07:01:09.660 black man to rap he's literally just a white guy that's the best rapper he doesn't pretend to be 0.59
07:01:14.180 black like he's not like vanilla ice like faking his life like he's like a real white guy that
07:01:18.900 just is a really great rapper you do acknowledge that there are probably black people that he's
07:01:22.920 close with who do call him the n-word though probably yeah of course why not like there was
07:01:30.640 there was actually a song there's a rap song where they were like you're my i know you're white but
07:01:36.660 you're mine yeah i mean probably but it's not like you know they probably do but i'm not them
07:01:43.220 yeah okay cool i'm kind of sad i'm sorry that you won't i'm sorry would you call me
07:01:52.940 your no i denounce even black people saying that you don't like black sure that's fair
07:01:57.600 i don't like black i you i call people like a black person could be my caucasian is what i'm 0.98
07:02:02.720 trying to say you know how it's like a greeting it's like a homie type thing can i be your nubian 0.92
07:02:09.040 goddess queen of the universe like i would like that like my nubian yes sure but it's like you 0.79
07:02:14.340 know like my so i i she's my caucasian caucasian you're you you can be black white latino purple
07:02:23.840 whatever you want you could be my i think that what makes it weird is anytime i've called a
07:02:29.440 white guy it by accident he's looked way too happy like why is he so happy about it it just
07:02:33.500 makes me uncomfortable it's like he's been waiting and then he's like then like what he
07:02:36.440 think he can say it back to me like what am I starting when I do that going back to Tessa
07:02:42.320 Tessa okay uh you said your body you're 18 your body counts 33 yeah um can you can you tell us
07:02:51.860 like um since you since you turned 18 how many bodies have you put up 10 10 yeah 17 how many
07:03:03.400 body's at 17 maybe like maybe no maybe seven to the last question and maybe 10 at 17
07:03:11.700 i want to go home excuse me what what's going on how you know what's going on like 0.86
07:03:22.520 can we do let's do some hoe math okay we're gonna do some hoe math t-dog tessa 0.97
07:03:28.720 so okay you're 18 your body counts 33 right and you're doing about 10 you're putting up 10 bodies 0.99
07:03:34.620 a year so and like what do you want to get married have kids hopefully at what age would you like to
07:03:42.520 be married by 35 okay so like up until maybe say you meet your guy at 32 date for three years get 0.99
07:03:52.520 married so you got 15 years of of dick slanging of slanging well you don't slang the dick you 1.00
07:04:01.620 pussy slanging you're gonna slang pussy for free because you're you don't do that 1.00
07:04:07.720 if we do the math here 10 10 10 dicks a year you're already at 33 you're gonna be a hundred 1.00
07:04:18.800 I think we're going to get you to 100, 150 by the time you're 30.
07:04:26.000 Do you feel like that's a good goal for you?
07:04:29.680 I don't really care.
07:04:32.860 I love that for you.
07:04:34.840 Now, that makes me a little sad that you said you don't really care.
07:04:37.760 I'm not judging you because I was literally only two years older than you when I had sex.
07:04:41.120 I don't think it's fair.
07:04:41.960 I was obviously too young to be doing it too, but I feel like it's sad that you don't care.
07:04:46.280 It made me feel a little sad in my heart.
07:04:48.800 i also felt sad in my heart when you told me your body count was 33 at 18 and you said you
07:04:55.760 lost it at 13 yeah how'd that happen um in my bed wow profound
07:05:05.720 she schooled sad there all right moving on from the
07:05:11.400 definitely not trolling person uh let's see here do we have we got we got kt mecca
07:05:19.440 wrong for a man to dump his girl well we talked about wrong if to okay we talked about that i'm
07:05:25.100 not going to do that one uh you circle you agree with the following statement women do not have
07:05:30.600 equal rights to men in the usa why is that kt because the laws were made by 0.87
07:05:38.680 mostly men
07:05:42.040 that's the argument
07:05:45.480 that's my argument
07:05:46.760 take it or leave it 0.98
07:05:49.380 women do not have equal rights to men in the USA 0.99
07:05:51.320 because the laws were made by men 0.65
07:05:52.840 but isn't it conceivable that
07:05:55.060 like let's assume laws were made by 1.00
07:05:59.420 women 1.00
07:05:59.860 wouldn't it be 1.00
07:06:03.120 conceivable that
07:06:04.720 like could they not pass laws 1.00
07:06:08.660 that were not, say it was conservative women.
07:06:11.200 Are you pro-choice or pro-life?
07:06:13.420 Pro-life.
07:06:14.340 Oh, well, okay, then I don't know if this will land well for you. 0.98
07:06:18.260 Just because the laws were passed by men, 1.00
07:06:20.200 it doesn't necessarily follow that the laws are bad for women.
07:06:27.180 I agree. 0.99
07:06:27.780 Okay, I mean...
07:06:34.480 Give me a brief moment to think about this one.
07:06:38.660 Well, how about this? 1.00
07:06:39.620 You say women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
07:06:42.380 Can you tell me what specifically? 1.00
07:06:45.160 Health care.
07:06:48.940 So, like, just, like, studies on health care.
07:06:51.860 Like, specific studies, like, pertaining to, like, childbirth.
07:06:57.060 Postpartum is one of them.
07:06:58.300 Mental health.
07:06:59.800 We didn't have proper microbiology until 75. 1.00
07:07:04.000 So who's to say that we have proper health care for women? 0.99
07:07:08.660 hmm within the last 20 years so that's but is there like so i understand that there's
07:07:17.680 you know medical studies where you know this common argument of you know they they test things
07:07:24.720 on men more frequently or whatever now you might say that that's unfair but how would this actually
07:07:30.460 point to like an inequality of rights specifically um well like birth control is is one of those
07:07:37.840 things right well couldn't i argue that women have such a robust choosing of the various birth 0.65
07:07:43.580 control options that this actually would be a uh privilege to a degree over uh it would be a
07:07:52.300 privilege hold it keep it here tiffany what are you doing what are you doing can you stop what
07:07:58.980 are you doing what can can you stop that stop what you're adjusting your shirt i'm sorry can
07:08:08.740 you just not do that please can you not do that please i'll try not to what do you mean try not
07:08:20.120 to i know i'll try not to huh i'll try not to what what do you mean try just don't do it
07:08:27.700 don't put your hands here okay
07:08:30.700 oh okay can you do that yeah 0.88
07:08:40.860 this has to be a troll bro this has to be a troll 0.95
07:08:45.900 um bro it's like a liability at this point like your troll stops being funny when it's like 0.93
07:08:53.480 you're gonna try to like intentionally get us like in trouble with like youtube or twitch or
07:08:58.280 whatever um if you're trolling you want to be seen so don't you want this to go on youtube because
07:09:03.380 if something happens and we get banned then we you won't even be seen at all so wouldn't you
07:09:08.320 want to try and to troll it it seems yeah but if i'm like asking you to not do something and you
07:09:13.980 like hair twirl um i guess i can try not to do that it's like kind of she's acting like an 18 0.99
07:09:21.300 year old have you been no no no she's acting like a fucking infant like a bratty 0.98
07:09:27.480 argumentative infant this is 18 year olds can comport themselves with this is this is not an 0.99
07:09:36.700 18 year old we met outside and you have a great personality alone and you do not have to troll
07:09:43.460 in order to get any screen time like you had amazing personality hide that and be quick
07:09:48.660 thank you thanks i don't know what to say i'm not trying to troll
07:09:56.960 just don't understand why i can't just talk well because it seems like you're trying to
07:10:05.120 do a slip intentionally that's why i'm not trying to slip my right but regardless of what you are
07:10:11.380 not trying to do if i give you a direct instruction to not do that in my studio on my podcast
07:10:19.240 instead of doing the little hair tool you should just be like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm not going
07:10:24.760 to do that. Okay, I won't do it. Did you take any drugs prior to the show or anything? No.
07:10:49.980 Huh?
07:10:50.360 No.
07:10:52.300 No.
07:10:53.500 No.
07:10:54.660 Sorry.
07:10:56.740 Right.
07:10:57.500 Right.
07:10:58.600 Okay.
07:11:05.040 Hold on.
07:11:14.140 Wait, hold on.
07:11:17.080 Okay.
07:11:19.280 Uh, look, nothing personal. I'm not going to make a big scene about it, but you've demonstrated like, look, I I'll accept some degree of like trolling and just kind of like not even trip about it.
07:11:31.240 But like, if I've given you like a strict instruction not to do something and you're going to give me attitude about that, I have to be protective of my podcast, but also be protected.
07:11:42.380 like if we have to take down a podcast like all these women here drove here flew here they spent
07:11:48.480 time and money and I'm nothing personal uh respectfully I do have to ask you to leave 0.85
07:11:54.600 so thank you for coming appreciate it get home safe
07:12:02.340 tiffany if you can just uh escort her please uh all right we're gonna do some quick chair 0.98
07:12:16.080 adjustments i'm gonna have you move over one chair and uh sabby dabby take chair one
07:12:21.460 and then uh we'll continue on with the show sorry guys but
07:12:25.720 But, you know, I was getting a little nervous there.
07:12:30.360 So just can't really be having somebody intentionally doing something like that
07:12:35.360 so as to waste all your guys' time and effort and money to be here.
07:12:39.380 So Xcrypt, thank you for the gifted five subs.
07:12:45.700 One sec, guys.
07:12:47.000 One sec.
07:12:47.840 Well, okay, I'll just say.
07:12:52.520 Okay, out you go, I guess.
07:12:53.980 uh yeah that was definitely a red card um okay now that she's gone like what do you guys think
07:13:01.600 do you think she was there was something going on there i don't i don't know i think progressively
07:13:06.560 over the night like something whatever is going on i don't i don't do drugs um it got worse um
07:13:13.740 because earlier when we were downstairs like you said like she was honestly acting normal we
07:13:17.540 literally me and her and her were in a group talking before coming up and
07:13:22.740 really just normal conversation. So it,
07:13:26.880 it was very concerning to me and I thought the podcast was at high risk
07:13:32.100 because I saw it multiple times. So I wasn't sure what was going on.
07:13:36.180 Yeah. Uh,
07:13:37.420 Sab, can I have you just scoot your mic that way a little bit for me?
07:13:40.180 Thank you. Okay. Let's, uh, I think we're almost done with the questionnaire.
07:13:43.240 Then we're getting into all your notes and we'll hopefully get this wrapped up,
07:13:46.020 soon-ish, I suppose. 1.00
07:13:50.440 Anything else on that, KT, that women do not have equal rights to men
07:13:53.840 in the United States? 0.84
07:13:58.500 Just, I mean, in politics, like
07:14:01.460 a politician in the United States can't go to 1.00
07:14:05.600 China, that's a woman, you know what I mean? 1.00
07:14:09.300 Just because they can't, if there's rules. 1.00
07:14:11.900 so is there any law though that you can talk about that women not having equal rights
07:14:19.540 i'm not entirely familiar with the um the laws in the states 0.72
07:14:26.560 and oh uh well you're right it is about how about canada then 0.87
07:14:31.220 do women not have equal rights in canada
07:14:34.000 um well like in canada so like you have to be proven like it's you're innocent until proven
07:14:57.240 guilty in canada so like for example like if it was like a sexual assault case that man that man
07:15:05.100 is is innocent until proven guilty like there has to be some sort of like dna evidence like you
07:15:13.060 can't like it's all he said she said um issues um it wasn't until the 60s that women couldn't have
07:15:22.280 their own bank accounts so like for example that affected my grandmother well let's really quick
07:15:27.740 let's just stay on the you said innocent until proven guilty yeah and this as a legal principle 1.00
07:15:34.580 is somehow bad a bad thing for women for people to have a presumption of innocence 1.00
07:15:43.320 yeah because like like i'll give i'll give an example so like for example if if a man were to
07:15:52.100 to sleep with a woman or like a young a young girl right okay he would get he would get charged
07:16:00.800 for like the sleeping with a minor but if it wasn't proven that he quote-unquote you know 0.54
07:16:09.720 rape her, then he wouldn't get that time.
07:16:15.420 Okay. So, but here's the 0.99
07:16:17.880 entailment of your position. You would
07:16:21.460 prefer a guilty until proven innocent standard
07:16:25.740 for, is that correct? 0.74
07:16:29.160 Under the age, for sure.
07:16:31.940 Wait, but hold on. I'm asking you
07:16:35.920 in general, should the standard, and by the way, it's the same standard
07:16:39.460 in the united states okay innocent until proven guilty this is the standard for many jurisdictions
07:16:44.780 um it would be preferable to you across the board that the standard be shifted to
07:16:51.240 guilty until proven innocent 0.98
07:16:52.840 no okay so i understand these are horrible fucking crimes right yeah especially anything 0.99
07:17:03.580 involving children horrible crimes and i hope that these people find and receive uh a sharp 0.98
07:17:11.660 justice but even for crimes that we deem absolutely morally repugnant there still
07:17:19.740 should be a standard of innocent until proven guilty in fact it should even i would argue it's
07:17:28.460 it should be more the case the worse the crime is it should be there's even a stronger calling
07:17:35.240 that one should be deemed innocent until proven guilty because if the standard shifts then you're
07:17:42.040 you can be accused of a very very atrocious crime and be put in a very bad position
07:17:48.620 i agree i agree okay but so i retract that statement okay and but even then i don't think
07:17:53.940 it would be like innocent until proven guilty that doesn't really have anything because both
07:18:01.800 women and men when they are accused of a crime both get that same standard women are assumed
07:18:07.860 innocent until proven guilty and men are assumed innocent until proven guilty so um even if you
07:18:14.440 were to object to that standard that wouldn't be an inequality between men and women you might say
07:18:20.640 well hold on you might if you were to say well men are judged innocent until proven guilty and
07:18:27.640 women are judged guilty until proven innocent then you might have something there but
07:18:31.980 as as you stated i don't find that compelling is there anything else
07:18:37.240 nothing nothing okay all right uh we have our good friend jay lynn you say men should be
07:18:44.380 chivalrous uh you said when perhaps when you remarry you will keep your last name or hyphen
07:18:48.760 name marriage because i when i got married i did keep my last name so you'll do it again basically
07:18:53.980 what about the kids though the kids can have the husband's name last name no hyphenate is that a
07:19:00.320 yes oh they can have his last name okay but you won't change your last name okay but men should
07:19:04.120 be chivalrous why should they be chivalrous well i don't know they just should okay but would you
07:19:11.400 find this convincing women should just change their last names because they just should 0.95
07:19:14.840 i find that convincing right uh we got t love tatum love t dog uh not much for the for those
07:19:25.160 we have our dog what razzle razzle dazzle razzle okay razzle yeah razzle yeah uh we have robin
07:19:36.420 No? Okay, the last
07:19:39.040 The last thing from the questionnaire
07:19:40.540 Sabby Dabby
07:19:41.860 Sabresia?
07:19:45.260 Sabresia 1.00
07:19:45.860 Like abrasion 0.99
07:19:48.240 Wait, hold on
07:19:52.040 Pico de Glox donated $100
07:19:54.560 Sab, my beautiful angel
07:19:57.300 Let's get married and have beautiful children
07:20:00.060 Thank goodness your chair won now 0.66
07:20:02.700 You are number one at that table
07:20:04.620 I'm only 5 feet 8 inches
07:20:06.780 but my wallet is fat 0.84
07:20:08.180 what a guy 1.00
07:20:10.360 thank you
07:20:11.380 you made my night 1.00
07:20:13.920 that's like Latinx 1.00
07:20:18.480 but for pico de gallo
07:20:19.640 thank you for that pico de gallo
07:20:21.760 you know what Sab he's got a fat wallet though
07:20:24.480 pop a bottle of champagne
07:20:26.200 prove to Sab
07:20:27.360 prove to our good friend
07:20:29.620 Sabresia
07:20:31.140 Sabresia
07:20:32.580 yes that you've got a fat wallet pop a ball of champagne we'll pop we'll pop open the ball of
07:20:38.200 champagne and uh yeah um let's see here um oh uh we need anybody want a popsicle any popsicle
07:20:49.420 pizza we do have pizza we can microwave that uh popsicle popsicle popsicle popsicle anybody else
07:20:58.360 In 20 minutes maybe 0.99
07:21:00.260 Two popsicles Tiffany for chair two 0.60
07:21:02.540 Chair three
07:21:03.380 Kaylee and Elise
07:21:05.520 The final thing from the question
07:21:07.900 Yeah sure
07:21:09.640 Did we
07:21:14.280 Oh the chairs are there
07:21:15.200 Sabresia
07:21:17.740 Sabresia
07:21:19.260 Sabresia
07:21:20.500 Abrasion 0.97
07:21:21.160 Super Asia 0.93
07:21:24.320 Sabresia 0.93
07:21:26.620 uh okay uh you agree with the following statements men should pay on first dates
07:21:36.460 men should provide protect men should be chivalrous husband should be willing to die
07:21:41.380 protecting you take the bullet where i take a bit of a coral you will keep your last name
07:21:50.280 or hyphenate in marriage why is that i'm hispanic and um i'm the oldest so i have four sisters one
07:21:59.940 brother i'm the oldest and i kind of want to have my last name there just just for my dad but my
07:22:09.080 kids they can have my husband's last name and i would use my husband's last name just like on
07:22:16.260 paper as a compliment to my dad because he my brother is on my mom's side he's not my dad's son
07:22:22.000 and just to keep the name alive for him okay but let's say you said you're latina and there is a
07:22:30.760 culture i guess where there's multiple last names and many last names or something like this um
07:22:37.820 assume though you would you date like just like a wasp or something
07:22:43.960 white anglo-saxon protestant so just like a white dude
07:22:48.420 i could you prefer latino i don't know i'm kind of still waiting for the right guy to come along
07:22:56.560 well let's assume that you are dating a white guy and he doesn't share your cultural
07:23:01.960 uh inclinations towards the last name thing that many uh i suppose latin cultures or whatever do
07:23:10.300 and he's like listen i'm a traditional man i assume you want to date a traditional man yes
07:23:15.480 yep you're a christian you date a christian man and he's like listen uh and this is a guy your
07:23:22.360 head over heels with you want to marry this guy but this is a conversation that happens
07:23:26.160 uh and he's like look i want you to take my last name this is the traditional thing do you do it
07:23:33.440 i would do it i mean i'm taking my last name for my dad just because it would die off with us
07:23:42.000 and if my husband really didn't want that then that's fine but hopefully he'd be willing because
07:23:46.940 it's just a hyphen right i mean i don't know too much about it but isn't it just sorry clarifying
07:23:52.380 um you'll hyphenate yeah i want i want his too it's just you know the dash and then the hyphenate
07:23:59.720 but what if he insists that's fine he insists you take the last name yeah then you'll do it yeah 0.62
07:24:05.300 you'll be highly disappointed though and you're gonna nag him for like i mean i really do want
07:24:10.180 to keep i would love i just want my husband's last name honestly i mean having a longer name
07:24:14.960 is already a thing but i'd be doing it for my dad you know sure uh i would just say that you know
07:24:22.500 Depending on who you marry, some might be okay with it.
07:24:24.600 I would say probably men who are more traditional, which I assume is, you say men should pay on first dates, men should provide protect, men should be chivalrous, husbands should be willing to die protecting you.
07:24:33.660 I assume this is probably going to be a more traditional guy. 0.62
07:24:36.320 I assume you also want to date a Christian man. 0.54
07:24:37.980 I don't think it's unlikely that you're going to encounter a guy who might, this might be a big sticking point for him. 0.96
07:24:49.100 So just heads up, I guess.
07:24:51.760 Well, do you know what it means?
07:24:54.360 I mean, do I have to use that hyphenated last name on everything,
07:24:57.440 or can I just have it be Sabrasia Smith?
07:25:02.020 And just the hyphen's kind of low-key.
07:25:04.960 Sorry, you were asking me if I know what it means?
07:25:07.520 What do you mean?
07:25:08.020 Because I haven't studied about the hyphen or anything.
07:25:11.800 All I know is it's an extra last name.
07:25:15.900 Is that all it is?
07:25:18.360 Well, yeah, I mean, I guess it is.
07:25:21.260 just an extra last name but i think the traditional naming convention among like
07:25:27.900 non-hispanic or non-latino people is the wife takes the husband's last name fully it's no big
07:25:35.960 deal i mean whatever you want it seems like it's not a huge thing for you uh that's it pretty much
07:25:40.920 from this we have pre-show notes uh probably not gonna have time for rapid fire questions as
07:25:46.460 unfortunate that may be uh let's see let's get into everybody's notes here we did lens yeah uh
07:25:53.780 Kaylee uh when you're 18 you're working at a beer club there this is the stalking story
07:26:00.940 all right uh 47 married guy who would follow you everywhere outside of work um you can change the
07:26:08.980 split tiffany on this like uh one over uh 47 married guy who would follow you everywhere
07:26:19.100 outside of work and stalk you one time he asked you to have lunch with him for a few hundred
07:26:23.640 dollars and you agreed not knowing he was married later you had to go to school and he made you
07:26:29.840 promise him that he would have dinner that you would have dinner with him after school
07:26:34.560 you agreed so he would let you go
07:26:37.120 yikes but then you dipped
07:26:39.240 then he stalked you so he knew
07:26:41.400 where your house was and he came to your house
07:26:43.600 and he
07:26:45.180 uprooted your mailbox
07:26:47.040 out of the ground
07:26:48.160 he literally waited
07:26:51.300 for you after work and kidnapped
07:26:53.420 you
07:26:54.640 literally every day after work
07:26:56.480 literally like forced me into his car
07:26:58.480 wait this happened like multiple times
07:27:01.480 a lot of times until
07:27:03.400 wait
07:27:04.060 a lot of how do you get kidnapped because like every day you know what i mean like
07:27:09.500 you know what i mean like did you can't really did you willingly open the door a couple times
07:27:15.820 you know what i mean no because i mean this guy sounds like tiffany did you walk me to say no
07:27:21.700 like i i can't say no you know the type of person and i was young too i was like i was too polite
07:27:28.960 But, like, was he literally, like, throwing you in the car?
07:27:33.300 He was, like, coerced me.
07:27:36.200 Okay.
07:27:36.820 He was, like, very, put a lot of pressure on me and kind of, like,
07:27:39.780 and I was, like, I would rather, like, put up with, like, those couple hours
07:27:43.200 to, like, hang out with him rather to get it done with
07:27:46.100 rather than, like, just say no.
07:27:48.200 He doesn't take no point in answer, so.
07:27:50.280 You said that you hated his guts at first,
07:27:53.980 but you ended up having Stockholm Syndrome,
07:27:56.440 and you caught feelings you ended up dating him for two years he basically 0.99
07:28:02.260 nice someone purchased three items for $89.97 I don't know how to turn that off I'm fucked 0.88
07:28:15.620 um you dated him for two years basically groomed during the time you guys were together he was 0.99
07:28:21.320 very crazy and controlling was this in vietnam oh it wasn't here it was here white guy no asian
07:28:27.760 asian dude i only dated kevin not kevin yeah i don't even know what his real name he used to
07:28:34.500 like a fake name an alias wait if you can try to like center yourself with the uh microphone
07:28:39.560 uh okay so wow that's pretty crazy um stockholm syndrome you so you dated him for two years
07:28:48.200 For two years.
07:28:49.000 Was he like the first boyfriend you've had?
07:28:50.940 In here.
07:28:52.040 Here in the U.S.?
07:28:52.920 So I used to have like puppy boyfriend in high school back in Vietnam.
07:28:56.980 Was he rich?
07:28:58.640 He, I think so.
07:29:00.100 He did like illegal stuff.
07:29:02.140 A 47-year-old married guy?
07:29:05.260 Yeah, so he used.
07:29:06.240 Walter White?
07:29:07.020 Who are you dating?
07:29:09.040 I think he used to be like Walter White back in the day.
07:29:12.320 But now he just has savings now. 0.97
07:29:14.680 Drug dealer. 0.87
07:29:15.580 He used to be a drug dealer.
07:29:16.760 but i don't think you can you can be drug dealers now anymore because like the law is like too tight
07:29:21.760 now but he still does like some illegal stuff i don't know what it is but like okay wow so that's
07:29:28.220 why i couldn't like call cops on him because then it's gonna be like escape escalate too much i don't
07:29:35.000 want that so did you did you kind of enjoy the toxicity though like was it exciting for you 0.90
07:29:42.980 yeah well that's how toxic toxicity is are you toxic
07:29:48.420 i don't know have you ever slashed a guy's tires oh i haven't burned clothes 0.61
07:29:55.560 no property they do that to me though property they do to you yeah my last two ex like sabotage 0.65
07:30:02.900 me sabotage you like they so that guy he used like fish sauce fish sauce sauce like the stinky
07:30:10.760 a fish sauce and he would like put it all over my my room like like literally every single
07:30:16.440 was there like a reason or just because i tried to break up with him
07:30:22.840 because he was married oh it's the same guy it's the same guy he poured fish sauce all over my room
07:30:31.580 and then he even like opened my like closet and then put it all over my clothes like he doesn't
07:30:36.740 He didn't leave anything alone.
07:30:39.200 Oh, my gosh.
07:30:40.480 Who is he?
07:30:40.940 47?
07:30:42.060 Like, by the way, at no age is this acceptable.
07:30:45.520 But you'd figure, you know, somebody matures.
07:30:48.740 But, hey, she's shaking her head.
07:30:50.980 Like, some of the most immature people I've dated were older.
07:30:56.360 Like, so this idea that when someone's older, it's going to be, 0.97
07:30:59.120 no, actually, they're just left over because they're crazy. 1.00
07:31:03.980 But, damn, that's fucked up. 1.00
07:31:06.740 Um, okay. 1.00
07:31:09.300 Where was I going to go with that?
07:31:10.820 Um, so he stalked you.
07:31:13.100 Um, I don't know if this resonates with any of you. 1.00
07:31:16.720 I don't know if you women appreciate this. 0.99
07:31:21.200 I think a selling point for, for me, like if I was selling myself to a woman, not that 1.00
07:31:26.720 I'd have to, I'm very easy to break up with. 0.92
07:31:32.400 now of course you would hope you never have to break up with someone right but i feel like that's
07:31:37.960 a pro i mean sort of obviously if you're breaking up the person it didn't work out but one of the
07:31:45.060 benefits like i don't know i feel like a woman might be apprehensive like okay he's great but
07:31:49.040 if i break up with him he's gonna kill me so it's like i'm so easy to break up with just send me a
07:31:55.340 text and be like hey i had a good time have good that's too easy no it's like send me a text
07:32:01.920 and I'll be like, hey
07:32:03.400 it was
07:32:04.740 I wish you the best
07:32:07.500 have a good one 1.00
07:32:09.380 I guess a woman like that 1.00
07:32:11.520 wow, really? 1.00
07:32:12.660 oh, now I'm the bad guy
07:32:14.780 I'm not upset enough
07:32:16.460 I need to be more upset
07:32:18.400 I gotta do something 1.00
07:32:22.080 I'm Vietnamese, you gotta be a little 1.00
07:32:23.580 you gotta be a little clean
07:32:24.980 I need some art 1.00
07:32:26.540 she wants to break up with me 0.97
07:32:28.180 but she's upset that I don't care enough 1.00
07:32:30.740 she's like I knew you 1.00
07:32:32.720 this is why I'm breaking up with you you don't care enough about me
07:32:35.020 that's a little bit concerning 0.94
07:32:36.660 why is this too easy and then she changes her mind
07:32:38.740 I'm concerned for you
07:32:40.960 and your standards Brian because I would
07:32:42.820 think that you would demand something like a
07:32:44.800 phone call that would signify that
07:32:46.420 she may maybe have a little more
07:32:48.540 respect for the relationship that you might have had
07:32:50.780 phone calls it depends
07:32:51.920 well it depends how long right so
07:32:54.200 if somebody's opting to cut
07:32:56.860 things off early on I think
07:32:58.800 a text is okay even if you
07:33:00.720 been like balls deep you know like she can you know i think she can still send a text okay well
07:33:08.500 what do you guys think maybe you know what are you going around the table absolutely just depends
07:33:12.420 on the depth of the relationship here's a question what is the i i suppose either the shortest or
07:33:20.660 longest period of time it would be acceptable like at what point is it crosses the threshold
07:33:25.720 into being unacceptable to do a text breakup any any so you go on one date yeah one date i got a
07:33:34.440 call because i'm saying yes to him taking on a date like one date okay we'll come back to that
07:33:40.800 it's respecting kaylee what's when is least or most amount of time dates whatever for it to be
07:33:48.780 acceptable to do a breakup text any right any breakup text could basically like you're sending
07:33:58.420 a message saying i no longer want to continue this it's not marriage right oh so you're saying
07:34:05.680 any you're saying it's acceptable at any time to do breakup text okay elise i mean i'm a classy
07:34:12.260 broad so even if i don't like you i'm just gonna tell you face to face hey face to face i'm not
07:34:18.280 vibing with you man like i just want to let you know in person because i'm a nice girl like
07:34:22.720 in person i'm not feeling you so one day take it easy goodbye so on you go on one date with a guy
07:34:27.600 and then you'll do a second date to break up i won't do a date but you said in person i'll meet
07:34:33.080 up with him and be like hey honey um no oh my god i would be i would actually be pissed i wouldn't
07:34:38.500 be pissed i wouldn't be pissed you're breaking up with me i'm like why are you wasting my time 0.92
07:34:42.260 just fucking texting no i'd be like i don't know because you're kind of famous so your time is like 0.98
07:34:47.340 more valuable no but no i don't agree with that my time is just as valuable you go on one date 0.99
07:34:52.420 with somebody and then the expectation is you have to do a in-person breakup come on come on
07:34:59.280 hey come on i mean one i don't know okay i think i think it's just a classy like the exact minute
07:35:05.140 that i feel that it's not working out it's just text yep whatever just but you don't feel like
07:35:11.680 let's say you're dating a guy for three years still breakup texts okay yeah kids if there's
07:35:17.680 kids involved okay marriage how about marriage marriage no kids marriage um
07:35:22.500 i mean there's there's a good chance he's getting served with papers divorce papers
07:35:30.560 so like it really does at that point it doesn't matter fair enough uh what's the threshold for
07:35:36.380 you um yeah it would kind of i mean if it was kind of more casual and it was a closing statement
07:35:45.000 via text i suppose that's doable but if it was like a month i think months month or month or
07:35:52.160 more yeah okay all right um no text no text you already see how sensitive i've been i can't do a
07:36:03.140 text do you mean for you doing the breakup or for the guy either of us can either text it has to be
07:36:10.760 what what what you have to do then i would say a direct in person in okay tatum what do you think
07:36:18.180 t-dog i mean i just get ghosted oh no way
07:36:22.840 they're they're coming for another tatum's a total sweetheart yeah she's a total sweetheart
07:36:31.080 you know 1.00
07:36:32.620 I'm mad
07:36:38.100 I was going to say
07:36:38.980 I'm mad
07:36:39.920 who are they 0.88
07:36:41.940 poor Tatum
07:36:43.480 but it's okay
07:36:45.300 you get over them quick
07:36:46.320 because it's like
07:36:47.100 you get so much
07:36:48.700 you get some attention
07:36:49.860 at the branch
07:36:51.300 and the
07:36:52.000 it's like
07:36:52.640 water under a bridge
07:36:54.220 okay
07:36:54.500 what about you
07:36:55.220 I would say
07:36:56.520 I'm almost closer to her
07:36:57.640 like about like
07:36:58.500 excuse me
07:36:59.220 one to three months
07:37:00.260 say it in person um otherwise i'll probably do like a phone call or even on the first day i'll
07:37:05.300 just be like i just don't see us being compatible you know i'm a pretty honest person i don't want
07:37:10.380 to leave people on i'm very straightforward i think for me honestly i got scared off of not
07:37:14.300 doing it somebody's knocking the phone very concerning out there god oh it's just outside
07:37:22.560 yeah they're like skating shout out mo he's six four that's my friend banging on a trash can or
07:37:33.400 something across the street um okay so uh you did you own a few answered or i don't think you ever
07:37:40.020 have to break up with anyone i just think stop talking to them and if they demand a reason
07:37:44.380 more than once then you give them a reason and it's okay to do the same thing you'd be ghosting
07:37:50.420 people at 42 or whatever 43 about to be 44 i haven't dated anyone in a pretty long time how
07:37:55.340 long you've been celibate ghost um celibate yeah i mean she hasn't dated i haven't dated but i
07:38:05.800 put someone up to comfort me in my time of need but i haven't dated anyone because most of my
07:38:11.400 life is like involves hospitals and cancer has it been in the past fortnight have you had carnal
07:38:17.200 knowledge um about two months ago two months ago yeah two months and I think I can go with about
07:38:25.080 two more I love that for you okay um wow those are some very diverse answers um hmm
07:38:32.800 some of y'all answers are wild like one date two date three date in person that's like I've been
07:38:41.100 conditioned to be afraid that's like like if I try to text somebody and it goes badly like I'm
07:38:47.100 scared they're going to come for me so i've just learned just to be really really extra nice
07:38:51.700 wait so you're saying but so you do the in-person breakup is that correct i do it specifically to
07:38:59.460 manage any potential situations because if a guy gets weird on me because i didn't handle it right
07:39:04.440 i get scared does that make sense okay i think i understand what you're saying you're saying that
07:39:09.380 if you don't do it in person you feel like the guy wouldn't he might show up at my house
07:39:14.180 unexpected yes he might like try to blast me he might try to do something i'm scared isn't there
07:39:18.940 another safety concern whereby if you do do it in person that's also unsafe i'm actually pretty good
07:39:25.740 at like finessing the situation if i'm in person okay yeah i just kind of let them like understand
07:39:31.400 and be like yeah i mean look i i can understand but i think a guy who's that insane to the point
07:39:38.000 like you like here's the scenario your concern is if you just like send a text message or even a
07:39:45.400 phone call and you break up with a guy he's going to show up at your house or he's going to do some
07:39:50.080 but like that same guy if you break up with him in person i would think that just because you do
07:39:57.460 like he's still going to be a problem if you do it in person possible but i'm much better at
07:40:02.120 dealing with people in person so that's just me and my individual self okay uh well look i
07:40:07.920 think that you've you've been on a couple dates with a guy that's a text a couple dates i would
07:40:14.780 hope so but it's never i've i've gotten scared a number of times but look i'll tell you my
07:40:19.480 perspective as a guy who like would never freak out because a girl wants to end things i would
07:40:25.780 feel like that could you know like when people have like business meetings you you're like that
07:40:32.860 could have been an email this could have been a text message this could have been a text message
07:40:40.460 i yeah if i've like i'd say under six months text message six months to a year phone call
07:40:50.320 no after a year i think in person wow but i think long long distance long distance
07:41:00.960 longer longer than a year but you're long distance you can't have someone fly that's crazy
07:41:08.980 long distance has to be text or call well i haven't bothered with long distance okay well
07:41:13.900 so you're saying in person or whatever y'all so you disagree savvy dabby yeah why is that
07:41:19.780 a little closer to the mic if you can um you first date you you got to do a second meet to
07:41:26.820 to tell them hey not not feeling it i'm not um i'll usually tell them right away if it's not
07:41:35.120 gonna work out but you said you have to do it in person yeah so if it's the first date i'll say it
07:41:42.300 by the end and then they'll want to take me on a second date and wait what you would say hold on
07:41:48.540 you would say it at the end of the date i'd be giving it a shot i wouldn't be lingering on
07:41:54.160 if on like the yes or no i would be intentional about getting to know them and getting to know
07:42:00.940 who they are and then by the end of it i would know and then usually i know if i want to go on
07:42:09.800 dates with someone by the second or third date and if it's going to work or not and then i usually
07:42:15.000 let them know that's interesting though but i meet people in person it's not like i'm meeting
07:42:20.580 people on dating apps or anything but like the okay the first date person the first date uh
07:42:28.720 perhaps if the guy is like a little pushy say you don't like the guy but you go on the first date
07:42:36.480 and the guy's like oh my god i'd love to see you again when you free that might force your hand
07:42:42.560 where you're like uh yeah i'm not really feeling it but if the guy doesn't ask you would you
07:42:50.500 feel compelled to just be like he's like saying hey it was i had a good date good night you'd be
07:42:55.540 like hey by the way buddy not interested i think i would be pretty clear because i'm i'm purposeful
07:43:03.720 and i have intentions and i'm not here to waste anyone's time but i'm also in chicago so just
07:43:09.380 text so things are a lot closer than around here i'd rather look i feel like it's a bit socially
07:43:15.300 awkward to be like and i'm nice you're on the first date i feel like it's a bit socially awkward
07:43:20.100 like unless the guy's like pushing for the second date and you're being honest i think i honestly
07:43:25.560 think so you'd rather receive a text because i've always if i know i don't like him by the first
07:43:30.300 date at the end i'm like it's i just feel like it's it's awkward if like i'm like hey you want
07:43:35.020 to go out again and she's like i mean i wouldn't be upset if she was in person she was like hey
07:43:39.500 listen i had a good time but i'm just not sure if i felt the connection or whatever that would be
07:43:43.340 fine but i also wouldn't be upset if she was like on the date she was like oh yeah let me check my
07:43:50.740 schedule or whatever and then and then i text her two days later i'm like hey what's up are you free
07:43:55.600 on wednesday and she's like hey listen you know i was thinking about it had a good time with you
07:43:59.800 but um don't want to you know i don't know if it's the right fit i'd be fine with like i'd prefer
07:44:06.800 that honestly over the in-person i mean either is fine but i think i'd rather i'd rather do the like
07:44:15.900 the the oh my what's it feel like it's a more gentle letdown it's not like i i have thick skin
07:44:22.980 so for me it's not about that i would just rather avoid like the unnecessary awkwardness of that
07:44:29.820 then i don't know it doesn't feel awkward to me at the end of the day to be like it was nice
07:44:35.400 meeting you we don't have to see each other again yeah I don't know it's like letting the
07:44:40.160 from my perspective it's more so letting the other person down more gently I think like a
07:44:44.940 rejection in person is going to be come across a bit harsher than like like she shouldn't lead me
07:44:51.960 on but it's like if I text her the next day and I'm like hey I had a really good time I'd like
07:44:56.480 to see you say it's a Tuesday we went out it's Wednesday hey I'd like to see you this weekend
07:45:01.420 are you free i'm not that's fine just be like yeah okay i'll take this back between dates one
07:45:09.720 and three we can do a text but any after that that's my time and so that's when i rather be
07:45:17.920 in person because i don't normally go on dates more than three and if i am that's because i'm
07:45:24.220 giving you a chance right and so that's when i think you would have to do it in person i was
07:45:29.740 just thinking like maybe it um depends on the effort amount of effort that was put into it so
07:45:36.460 it's like the longer you're dating the more effort you've put into it whereas like the shorter you're
07:45:40.680 dating it's probably more reasonable to just send a quick text or do a quick phone call instead of
07:45:46.500 like meeting in person i just fall really fast so if it's after date three i'm giving you a chance
07:45:52.560 and yeah i'm gonna catch feelings yeah i just think like i i don't know you maybe you guys
07:46:01.400 live like five ten minutes away from the person or whatever i still think it's a waste of time 0.98
07:46:05.840 like i shaved my balls for this like at least imagine some guy who's like damn she's this 0.97
07:46:11.820 fine-ass vietnamese lady second date and he's like and he shows up and you're like 0.99
07:46:20.380 hey buddy and you're like hey listen um hey it's not you it's me um you're so great you're so maybe
07:46:31.100 we can be friends i wouldn't do it like that i would even drive over to his place and be like
07:46:34.560 hey you got a minute i just want to come by and say hi you know what and i kind of like you know
07:46:38.600 something i think that's because i'm being courteous to them right because i'm trying to
07:46:42.140 let them down i'm not trying to have them go out of their way for me because i'm about to break
07:46:45.460 okay i can kind of respect that like if you're the one ending things and you're like gonna go
07:46:50.120 to them to like talk or whatever on their door and be like hey i just want to let you know that
07:46:54.080 it was really nice meeting you and i actually thought you were cool but i'm just not feeling it
07:46:58.440 so i think you're gonna meet someone really awesome right i'm just gonna go five two minutes
07:47:03.740 like conversation good in and out bye i just think if you were like say you met them out in public
07:47:08.800 and they drove 10 minutes you drove 10 minutes i wouldn't ask someone to do that i'd be i'd be
07:47:12.820 like this could have been an email right it could have been an email uh so yeah i don't know that
07:47:19.400 that is interesting though even then though just a text wait so you would but here's the thing
07:47:25.560 we can anticipate when like if a girl's like we need to talk or a girl's like hey i'd like to
07:47:34.120 come by your house and talk to you how did you say it i said hey do you have like a minute i'm just
07:47:39.200 oh i'd say like hey do you have a minute like i'm just gonna drop by wait wait hold on i am
07:47:44.200 actually not cool with that don't do that here's why they think they're gonna get laid no no no
07:47:49.780 no well it can be different things um either he's like yes quickie or two oh it i think it's like
07:47:57.460 the when when a girl's like and the guys can do this too i guess we need to talk or like i need
07:48:03.040 to talk to you about something you got to tell me right away i'm gonna call you up you tell me right 1.00
07:48:08.660 now because i'm like i cannot handle that level does she have fucking hiv does she have herpes 0.98
07:48:14.540 or is she yes or is she yes it's it's either stds pregnancy none of that or a breakup which are all 0.98
07:48:24.260 very bad bad very bad so no 10 out of 10 bad this would give me like killer anxiety i if you send
07:48:30.880 me that text i'm learning something so now i know that you know i just text them and be like hey yeah
07:48:36.200 I feel like the next level
07:48:40.480 If you don't want to send a text
07:48:41.500 Just hop on the call
07:48:42.340 Honestly I was trying to do the thing
07:48:46.240 That was the easiest for the dude
07:48:47.900 To let him down the easiest
07:48:49.880 Text
07:48:51.760 No voice memos
07:48:54.360 In this day and age
07:48:55.480 Voice note
07:48:56.240 I'd rather a text over a voice note
07:49:01.100 You know what I hate
07:49:02.980 When they ghost you
07:49:04.300 And then they come back
07:49:05.660 and they're like hey i'm sorry i shouldn't have done that it's like it wasn't that hard
07:49:12.520 to just say something true but in her case i don't know i think we were talking about the
07:49:17.680 crazy stalker guy and um we were talking about like the the wait oh you tried to break up with
07:49:24.780 him and he poured fish oil or something sauce fish sauce that's like a that's like a it doesn't
07:49:30.580 come out it doesn't come out so basically everything that it touches is destroyed it's
07:49:35.000 like super concentrated sauce it's anything that it touches it's gone forever guys if you want to
07:49:40.440 become a master debater debate university.com if you want to learn how to debate uh great courses
07:49:47.220 over there by andrew wilson debate university.com guys casting women dm instagram.com slash whatever
07:49:52.980 at whatever on instagram if you want to be on the show um like the video if you're enjoying the
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07:50:01.700 $10 display, $100 TTS
07:50:03.580 Twitch.tv
07:50:04.900 Pull up Twitch really quick, T-Dog
07:50:06.940 Twitch.tv slash whatever, drop us a follow
07:50:08.920 Drop us a Prime sub if you have one
07:50:10.420 And show us some support over there on Twitch
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07:50:16.640 Show us some support over there
07:50:18.320 On Twitch
07:50:20.280 Okay, so we were talking about
07:50:22.800 The crazy stalker story for you
07:50:24.660 I think I was just, no, what was I saying?
07:50:29.260 Oh, I'm easy, one of my pros
07:50:30.700 is I'm easy to break up with.
07:50:33.140 Like, I'm not going to freak out.
07:50:34.660 I'm not going to come to your, blow up your phone,
07:50:36.780 call you 20, 30, 40, 50 times,
07:50:39.580 text you 20, 30, 40, 50 times.
07:50:42.560 It's like, you want to break up?
07:50:44.180 Why would I want to be with someone
07:50:46.020 who doesn't want to be with me? 1.00
07:50:48.080 Now, sometimes women get in trouble here 1.00
07:50:49.500 because you're bluffing the breakup. 1.00
07:50:52.700 You bluff the breakup.
07:50:54.340 You want the man to change.
07:50:56.000 You want to be with him, but you want him to change.
07:50:57.880 And you bluff the breakup. 1.00
07:50:59.040 And then when he's like, okay, you're like, oh, fuck. 1.00
07:51:03.980 Many such cases. 0.99
07:51:05.280 Okay, continuing on with K-Dog's notes.
07:51:09.740 What?
07:51:10.520 Would you date Ho Chi Minh? 0.87
07:51:12.740 What the hell? 0.51
07:51:13.440 Sorry, intrusive thoughts. 0.60
07:51:15.320 Sorry.
07:51:16.160 Ho Chi Minh. 0.73
07:51:17.840 He's chopped.
07:51:19.780 Ho Chi Minh's chopped?
07:51:21.360 He's really chopped.
07:51:22.560 I don't.
07:51:23.160 Chopped.
07:51:23.380 Tiffany, can you Google a picture of Ho Chi Minh? 0.86
07:51:27.180 he's chopped
07:51:29.380 double chopped
07:51:31.380 I think this is your 0.98
07:51:34.060 ick list Kaylee make girlfriend 1.00
07:51:36.120 pays or split bills 1.00
07:51:37.540 okay
07:51:38.280 everything has to go his way like a
07:51:42.040 child example he needs to be
07:51:44.100 in control of the music in the car
07:51:45.440 like there are like small things
07:51:48.100 you can like just let your girl
07:51:49.860 you don't have to like fight over 0.85
07:51:52.140 important things like that
07:51:53.740 it feels like a child
07:51:55.500 Do we have photos of Ho Chi Minh? 0.95
07:51:58.020 Yeah
07:51:58.320 Let's see
07:52:00.200 What are you talking about? 1.00
07:52:03.580 That guy fucking mogs 1.00
07:52:04.720 Can we click on a photo of him? 1.00
07:52:09.320 Well
07:52:09.560 That's like a propaganda poster
07:52:11.060 He doesn't actually look like that 1.00
07:52:13.780 Wait, dude, that guy mogs 0.99
07:52:15.980 He mogs who? 1.00
07:52:17.320 Look at it, bro 1.00
07:52:19.040 He's got like insane 1.00
07:52:20.720 He looks like some kind of Asian dictator 1.00
07:52:22.660 You think so? 0.98
07:52:25.500 Bro, Moggs, look at his face. 1.00
07:52:26.860 I'd rather date Pai Mei from Kill Bill 2, actually. 0.99
07:52:30.100 That's like your dad. 1.00
07:52:31.220 That could be your dad.
07:52:32.380 I'd rather date Kim Jong-un than Kim Jong-un.
07:52:37.000 Kim Jong-un is not bad by comparison.
07:52:39.620 He looks rich, though.
07:52:41.420 Oh, me, girl.
07:52:42.420 I like me.
07:52:43.460 I like me more often.
07:52:46.220 Oh, my God.
07:52:46.900 I need some dad bod.
07:52:48.240 Kim Jong-un is thicker. 1.00
07:52:49.540 You would fuck Kim Jong-un? 1.00
07:52:52.260 I mean, over him. 1.00
07:52:53.560 I wouldn't fuck Kim Jong-un. 1.00
07:52:54.580 like over him though like what if he promised to make you princess of north korea 1.00
07:53:00.100 north korea though
07:53:03.520 is that even a good thing i don't i don't think i would but i mean like think of it think of it
07:53:15.480 okay just a bigger present uh okay the every controlling everything in the car talks about
07:53:21.620 how much money he has, but never spends it.
07:53:23.600 Talks bad about Max. Okay, I think these are
07:53:25.360 kind of fair for the most part.
07:53:27.860 Pretty reasonable. Moving on
07:53:29.620 to, we have 1.00
07:53:31.280 Tessa, well, RIP Tessa. 1.00
07:53:36.260 Definitely a troll. 1.00
07:53:37.620 Definitely troll status. We got 0.56
07:53:39.380 KT Mecca. 0.97
07:53:40.160 On your
07:53:42.400 link tree, you have something
07:53:44.560 for supporting anti-racism
07:53:46.400 or something? I don't know.
07:53:49.940 Yes. 0.98
07:53:50.500 okay uh okay can black people be racist towards white people
07:53:56.680 yes oh okay so you're not like woke or whatever in that way um i just there's good there's good
07:54:05.340 people and bad people sabby dabby can you uh read this for us please sorry to interrupt real quick
07:54:10.640 around the table clancy justified or not so we did two hours earlier so we'll do just just for
07:54:16.840 a refresher for him. We'll do show of hands.
07:54:19.100 Shriver, thank you for the soup chat.
07:54:20.640 Who's a supporter? You.
07:54:23.300 Justified, though. That's clearly
07:54:24.700 a lot different. 1.00
07:54:27.360 Justified and killing her kids? 1.00
07:54:30.300 Well, you 1.00
07:54:30.900 don't think she did.
07:54:33.720 You don't think she did that.
07:54:35.540 You're a Lindsay Clancy supporter.
07:54:37.980 Not an extremist.
07:54:40.480 So, yes.
07:54:41.060 Okay. KT Mecca,
07:54:42.920 you dated a guy who turned out to be a human
07:54:45.000 trafficker. 0.99
07:54:46.840 You dated a guy who turned out to be gay. 0.99
07:54:51.540 Yes.
07:54:51.980 Well, look, I'm going to be honest. 1.00
07:54:53.940 If I'm not getting pussy, you got to turn somewhere. 1.00
07:54:57.840 Oh, my God. 1.00
07:54:58.340 Sorry.
07:54:59.380 You got it. 1.00
07:55:01.540 She's a 28-year-old virgin. 0.96
07:55:03.680 These poor men she dates.
07:55:05.320 I know.
07:55:05.740 28.
07:55:07.020 Being a virgin isn't a bad thing.
07:55:09.860 No, it's not.
07:55:10.440 True.
07:55:11.640 But.
07:55:13.940 I avoided a human trafficker.
07:55:16.840 but look no it's not no it's not a bad thing and low body counts good or whatever but um i would
07:55:22.780 say you know what i got a follow-up on this you said your celebrity crush is drake yes and you
07:55:28.240 would let him crack right away yep sabby dabby you got celebrity crush me yeah you jb jb justin
07:55:38.280 bieber let me have you tell you man from vampire diaries oh ian sommerhalder is that him young ian
07:55:45.460 summerhalder he's pretty i could see okay yeah he's good looking wait tilt your mic down a little
07:55:49.920 bit um question so ian summerhalder uh he from the vampire diaries he's a bit older now so
07:56:01.740 from the vampire diaries is like sabby dabby i'll be with you i'll marry you 0.98
07:56:09.840 But we have to have sex first 0.99
07:56:12.340 No 0.98
07:56:14.200 Because I love Jesus
07:56:15.600 But you don't get
07:56:17.560 What's his name in vampire
07:56:19.920 Damon
07:56:20.620 You don't get Damon though
07:56:22.400 But I keep Christ
07:56:24.920 Okay so you pass on Damon
07:56:26.420 And he'll 1.00
07:56:28.740 You have sex with him 1.00
07:56:30.260 And then two weeks later he marries you 0.99
07:56:32.120 Guaranteed
07:56:32.840 Not worth it
07:56:35.360 Do you have a
07:56:37.040 well this only you're waiting till marriage too yeah and you're you're single right yeah
07:56:45.160 celebrity crush that's a good question i mean i mean there's been many like movies i've seen
07:56:51.520 that i'm like oh he's really cute but i just don't really think about it too much so is there
07:56:56.540 any guy who you can think of like a celebrity who you're like damn he's so attractive um
07:57:02.040 man it's so hard unless you like throw names out there i can't like i don't memorize names 0.97
07:57:08.820 but i i would say i'm more attractive to like i guess yeah yeah white white men huh white men
07:57:16.520 yeah so i i wouldn't really know like damon from the i don't even know or the guy and uh you know
07:57:23.760 the girl who's got the black and yellow tights and then she like take care she takes care of that guy
07:57:29.840 in the wheelchair you don't know how about this wait for both of you perfect perfect guy perfect
07:57:36.720 guy so if that's your perfect looks guy he's also perfect in every other way the own the the one
07:57:44.880 catch to getting him and he'll stay with you forever it'll be perfectly so when i say perfect
07:57:49.040 i mean he's the richest man in the world and he's the best looking and he treats you the best and
07:57:54.140 he's perfectly loyal he would never leave you a perfect father perfect everything the one condition 0.94
07:58:01.380 to get to get the perfect man is you have to have sex with him before marriage let's say three times 0.98
07:58:08.220 three bones you got the bone three times and then he'll marry you a week later three bones 0.98
07:58:13.240 three bones then marriage that's an automatic no for me no not not even the perfect guy no because
07:58:19.020 if he loved us and if he was the perfect guy he would value a perfect what i appreciate is a man
07:58:25.580 who honors patience um and especially like in christianity this is something that we are called
07:58:30.880 to do but you also notice in christianity people get married sooner um that's because we allow the
07:58:36.380 lord to lead us um to our husband so it's a kind of different to the other women here well wait 1.00
07:58:44.060 nah never mind uh kt mecca dated a gay dude how did you know he was gay was he fucking dudes 1.00
07:58:51.060 yeah that's a good way to tell yeah okay he's having sex with other men that that's pretty 1.00
07:58:55.900 clear cut you dated a guy who would try to kill us not sure who us is in his vehicle every time 0.93
07:59:03.600 you turned on rap yeah so well i heard your rap music earlier and i'm not gonna lie i felt a 0.99
07:59:10.140 certain homicidal rage rise in me just kidding go ahead continue oh yeah i wanted to murder you
07:59:17.880 just kidding oh my god your rap was really good okay i'm just you're convicted your rap was great
07:59:24.340 i'm just joking you survived so yeah no every time i turned on rap he would just speed up and
07:59:31.080 start swerving just driving recklessly like in weaving in and out of cars doing things like that
07:59:37.700 and so it was it was scary now was it because he disliked rap or because he liked rap because he 0.99
07:59:43.480 disliked because like imagine you're like yeah this is the fucking shit tokyo drift i wonder if 0.99
07:59:48.800 never mind um you know that song okay what race was he 1.00
07:59:53.540 can anybody sing wait can you sing the the tokyo drift song
07:59:58.980 tokyo i don't if you see that then you mean it then you know you have to go fast and furious
08:00:06.400 drift drift okay all right oh my gosh that's okay that that would hype me up if i was driving and i
08:00:15.000 heard that song come on i might okay uh trafficking at the on routes in canada yeah so it's it's like
08:00:23.320 the equivalent to your um what are they called um the stops that you guys truck stops yeah like
08:00:31.240 a truck stop kind of what are you doing at truck stops well it's in canada it's more like a it's
08:00:37.900 like a like a service center so you go and you get gas you know your food whatever yeah and so
08:00:43.780 like you know i would go see my friends and then i would go there to go to the bathroom whatever
08:00:48.060 and you don't stretch my legs and there was a group of guys in there they all had like rubber
08:00:56.760 gloves on all of them and none of them were cleaning and so i thought to myself okay like
08:01:03.620 i'm not going to go inside the service center i'm going to go to the gas station because it's
08:01:08.220 a singular bathroom and when i went there it was locked and so i said nope and i drove away
08:01:19.040 and then i had found out later that people are actually getting trafficked at them you said
08:01:24.420 wait there 20 guys with gloves on were waiting alone yeah like while you were there well so when
08:01:32.600 i had pulled up there was nobody else in the parking lot oh okay so they were all just inside
08:01:37.160 waiting for someone i'm assuming and wait you wrote here in your notes no sex before marriage
08:01:43.880 yeah or wait hold on because the chances of meeting oh okay you're not saying you believe
08:01:49.780 in no sex before marriage you're saying that you kind of object to it because the chances of meeting
08:01:55.320 someone who hasn't had sexual relations is really low yeah so it's yeah so like like like like you
08:02:01.300 had kind of said before like you know you're it's really unlikely to find somebody that hasn't had
08:02:07.760 sex so why would i hold a standard that just isn't common like it's not uncommon or uncommon yeah
08:02:16.480 Okay. 1.00
08:02:18.260 You said you went to college and your ex cheated on you with an ugly female. 0.99
08:02:23.980 He did, indeed. 0.99
08:02:25.340 So you mogged her?
08:02:28.020 Yes.
08:02:30.580 Okay.
08:02:32.260 Question for all the women here on this topic. 1.00
08:02:36.380 Would you rather your boyfriend or husband, I know it's a bad situation either or, cheat on you with a hotter girl or an uglier girl? 1.00
08:02:45.120 Hotter. 1.00
08:02:45.640 Hot girl. 1.00
08:02:46.480 Let's go around the table. 1.00
08:02:48.500 Sabby Dabby. 0.99
08:02:49.960 Hotter girl or uglier girl? 0.98
08:02:56.580 Okay, come back. 0.99
08:02:58.480 I would say uglier. 0.89
08:02:59.700 Uglier. 0.97
08:03:00.380 Hotter.
08:03:00.800 Hotter.
08:03:01.880 Hotter.
08:03:02.400 Hotter. 0.96
08:03:02.840 Actually, it'd be fun for a hotter, because then I could steal her away from him.
08:03:06.660 Okay, good answer.
08:03:08.780 Good answer.
08:03:10.060 That's right.
08:03:10.700 Uglier. 0.81
08:03:11.380 Uglier. 0.90
08:03:11.960 Hotter.
08:03:12.360 Hotter.
08:03:13.000 Uglier.
08:03:13.580 Uglier. 0.90
08:03:14.440 Hotter.
08:03:15.400 Hotter. 0.59
08:03:15.840 i think harder prefer if she's hotter because i feel like cheating he's cheating his problem so 1.00
08:03:24.480 if the girl's other is it's better for a peace of mind i don't have to like compete with that 0.78
08:03:28.820 person and it's just his kind of thing he's a shitty person just like i wasn't enough or
08:03:32.780 something yeah exactly i'm not competing i just feel like if i'm gonna lose it better be to 0.65
08:03:37.920 somebody better than me i'm not insecure like what about you then you'll feel like you're not
08:03:42.880 i won't feel that way i'll be like good i lost to somebody worthy but it's not it's a tough one
08:03:49.580 actually that's a tough one i'm absolutely okay to lose because in life you lose but it better 0.86
08:03:56.400 be to a strong fucking competitor because you go to you downgrade it then it's like it's kind of 0.87
08:04:02.720 insulting to me exactly you know i want all of my men downgrades yeah i i see i see kind of both 0.98
08:04:09.440 sides i'm still gonna think of it as a downgrade because she may have looks but there's so much 0.55
08:04:13.320 more that he probably didn't fucking figure out about me yeah i i kind of see both sides of it
08:04:17.860 because on one hand if if they cheat on you with someone uglier you're like i mean that little to 0.89
08:04:25.320 you like how are you gonna downgrade how are you gonna downgrade like really that's how i have no
08:04:32.580 value then like that's how it's never happened but then then again like so i almost feel like
08:04:37.760 but also I think if they cheat on someone like who's uglier you're like off you like okay but
08:04:46.340 then if it's like like a good looking person but then they had something about them that
08:04:53.220 you didn't have you're like yeah yeah oh man there's I think something else related to that
08:04:58.420 I was thinking like um it would um it would be a bigger optics or wait would it be like for
08:05:07.680 regardless of how you feel internally do you think to other people do you think it looks 0.97
08:05:13.500 worse or which one's worse like to other people to outsiders if he leaves you for an uglier chick
08:05:22.260 that means that your personality was lagging too that means that you had i think it's a i think
08:05:27.800 it's a what does she have that you don't obviously it's not looks for external people i think it's a
08:05:32.840 bigger optics l if they cheat on you with somebody uglier absolutely because it's like bro you can't
08:05:40.120 even keep your girl or you can't keep your man like uh you're hotter than her and you couldn't 0.86
08:05:45.280 keep him like what did you do wrong like you must be a horrible person i think it's worse but 0.97
08:05:50.460 you must just be annoying to be around or something because you're obviously prettier
08:05:55.680 And then I think the, like, the perception will be, oh, they upgraded.
08:06:01.540 Like, for external people, it would be like, they got an upgrade.
08:06:04.680 Fine. 0.87
08:06:05.300 Whereas, like, I don't know, wouldn't your girlfriends be like, you're way hotter than,
08:06:14.280 like, wouldn't all your girlfriends be like, you're way hotter than her? 1.00
08:06:16.680 What a fucking loser. 1.00
08:06:18.200 You know, I don't know. 1.00
08:06:19.220 I don't know.
08:06:19.960 Yeah, I could go both ways then.
08:06:21.380 Yeah, I could go both ways.
08:06:22.260 He wouldn't do that to me.
08:06:23.860 True.
08:06:24.080 I would never.
08:06:24.780 Yeah, it's never happened.
08:06:25.680 All right, continuing on with KT, you went to college, your ex, oh, no, we did that, 0.99
08:06:32.900 cheated on you with an ugly female. 0.84
08:06:34.720 You dated a Hell's Angel guy, and you had to babysit him while he was on probation. 0.99
08:06:39.340 Oh, yeah, I did.
08:06:40.200 Girl, come stay with me.
08:06:43.560 Where do you find them?
08:06:44.280 Are they all in Canada? 0.51
08:06:45.740 They're all in Canada.
08:06:49.240 Something's going on in Canada.
08:06:51.340 Some hot, dangerous boys up there.
08:06:54.000 Now, you said you got in a few guys out of domestic abuse charges who didn't deserve them.
08:06:59.160 What do you mean?
08:06:59.900 So they didn't do it or what do you mean?
08:07:03.940 So it would be it would be like.
08:07:08.280 So in Canada, and I don't know if it's like this in the States, but in Canada, like if if you were to punch me.
08:07:15.420 Right. 0.97
08:07:16.000 And then I punched you. 0.99
08:07:17.520 That's that's a double domestic.
08:07:20.180 OK, so we're both getting we're both going to jail.
08:07:23.300 right yeah and there were situations where they were they were getting beat on by the girls the
08:07:30.700 female hadn't been caught yet okay i see yeah um you said i think this is a disagreement or something 0.88
08:07:37.620 or not necessarily with me but you want to talk sex on the first date is a well you just say sex
08:07:42.940 on the first date is a requirement for most men yeah that's that's that's what like in i would say
08:07:50.980 like that's kind of where our generation's going like it's it's progressing to that from your
08:07:55.080 perspective is that a good thing or a bad thing i think it's a bad thing just just in respects to 0.98
08:08:00.960 sexually transmitted diseases because that's how they travel true women should not have sex on the 0.76
08:08:07.780 first date no unless it's with me i heard there's a statistic that people are having less sex i'm 0.98
08:08:14.500 looking for the first one i don't know that's true that's true well yeah people are are having
08:08:20.760 less sex i guess yeah i'm confused uh okay your great-grandfather treated the whole church for 0.99
08:08:28.040 syphilis yep that's true downtown toronto so you're damned if you do damned if you don't 0.99
08:08:35.960 yep the whole church the whole church which like a singular church or like all of christen christen 0.99
08:08:44.640 dumb like in canada no just just the church in toronto you don't like speak like a much of a 0.98
08:08:52.900 canadian you know can you like bring it up can you amp it up a little bit you know how do you 0.99
08:08:58.700 want me do you want it like downtown toronto like i don't know like how am i like talking
08:09:02.980 oh you want me to talk like this to you because i can talk like this to you any day if you want
08:09:07.060 me to oh my god but i'm in i'm in i'm in the states right now so yeah you don't you want
08:09:12.080 tutus you wouldn't know what i'm saying tutus what is that no no no hey uh i don't i love that
08:09:18.740 what's like a canadian insult putain it's usually put in oh you're canadian too my mom's from
08:09:28.420 My mom does, yeah.
08:09:33.660 Oh, God.
08:09:34.360 Tu parles français?
08:09:36.140 Je peux.
08:09:36.900 Ah, c'est bien ça?
08:09:37.600 Toi aussi?
08:09:38.120 Oui, moi.
08:09:38.620 Toi aussi?
08:09:39.060 Tu parles français?
08:09:39.960 Not really.
08:09:40.700 Just a little bit.
08:09:42.880 Désolé.
08:09:43.600 Désolé.
08:09:44.100 C'est triste. 0.80
08:09:46.420 Désolé.
08:09:47.380 I'm sorry.
08:09:48.740 Désolé.
08:09:49.620 You don't know?
08:09:50.760 I thought you said du soleil.
08:09:52.580 I was like, what?
08:09:53.260 Désolé.
08:09:53.660 I was like, the son?
08:09:54.960 Oh, look at that.
08:09:56.500 Elise, very cultured woman here. 0.95
08:09:58.000 She speaks other languages 0.69
08:09:59.620 Oh, she is
08:10:00.640 Okay 1.00
08:10:02.980 Canadian though 0.99
08:10:06.280 Teach us some Canadian 0.68
08:10:07.700 You too, Sabby Dabby
08:10:09.720 We just
08:10:13.340 Close one door
08:10:14.880 The back door
08:10:16.000 Okay there, bud
08:10:17.300 We got Justin here
08:10:20.340 Justin donated $100
08:10:21.880 I haven't been paying attention 1.00
08:10:24.420 But bitches are in big trouble 1.00
08:10:26.360 it could not be more obvious that your input into society is nothing but destructive even for your 1.00
08:10:32.600 own sake just be cute and nice we are cute and nice okay for your information okay bud
08:10:38.860 uh yeah is this a like what am i about to do tell me if it's canadian
08:10:45.380 uh yeah so like i went to like the beach and stuff and like you know i like played some video
08:10:52.160 games you know yeah is that that's that's canadian canadian my parents are french so they uh yes
08:10:59.320 they go a a lot at the end okay yeah we go yeah now you have some tweets i i've pulled up i've
08:11:08.200 i dug deep on your tweets uh pull up oh no let's see these let's let's go i also have janae nay
08:11:20.680 Who?
08:11:21.220 Sorry, what? 0.99
08:11:21.720 Janay-Nay.
08:11:22.420 I have Janay-Nay's tweets, too, but it's KT's.
08:11:25.140 You got those, T-Dog?
08:11:28.420 Tiffany?
08:11:29.420 When was it from?
08:11:34.460 Go zoom in a little bit, like make it bigger.
08:11:37.660 Yeah.
08:11:38.120 Can you read for us?
08:11:41.360 I live in a society with laws created by men that still stand in place since before women got the right to vote. 0.99
08:11:47.280 but it's okay because the ratio of women in politics only qualify if they follow the rules 0.97
08:11:52.580 placed by men i don't know what y'all see but i see a lot of double ass standards all right well 1.00
08:11:58.000 i don't have time to engage with you on this one but uh i disagree and i win the argument next
08:12:03.880 disavow uh what not sure what uh make it bigger bigger yeah that's weird uh read it i don't let
08:12:14.780 uh i don't let people walk all over me protect your neck this is why it took so long for us to 0.98
08:12:20.620 earn the right to vote y'all actually think these men aren't out here showing your shit to others 0.94
08:12:26.060 rookies the humble part is speaking no names but taught taking souls in the process okay next 0.99
08:12:33.000 you're talking about nudes is that what you're talking about yeah like just yeah yeah yeah oh 0.99
08:12:37.860 yeah like the guys do girls dirty all the time uh the fact that some men are okay with fucking 0.99
08:12:42.520 females who clearly want love and relief from their situation then cutting them off so they can 0.99
08:12:47.260 repeat the same shitty cycles is kind of the root of misogyny but it's a man's world right 1.00
08:12:52.980 just like the girls at western easier to dismiss well hey we talked about that i do think that's 1.00
08:12:58.880 wrong if kind of what you're hinting at is uh like the guys who lie yeah for sure to get pussy 0.99
08:13:04.660 and then dump them um like misrepresent their intentions that's kind of shitty but is it like 0.95
08:13:11.800 the root of misogyny you know what i mean like i don't think it's the root of misogyny i don't 0.91
08:13:18.180 even know if that's misogynistic like it's scummy scummy behavior but is it inherently
08:13:23.820 inherently like inherently man is that what you're trying to say no is it just inherently
08:13:29.580 i don't think it's you say it's the root of misogyny maybe the dehumanization anyways next
08:13:35.600 next read it please men may have the lower population but they aren't getting 0.97
08:13:43.960 their clit cut off just for being born this is why it's better to be a wolf than a sheep 0.97
08:13:49.640 yo september 2021 you were on a feminist bender or something this is why uh for uh they aren't 1.00
08:13:57.200 getting their clit cut off just for being born we get circumcised in canada in usa we get our 1.00
08:14:05.580 shit chopped up wrong wrong if i was president and in canada we don't have that anymore 0.99
08:14:14.040 circumcision no it no not not only like not uh like babies can't be circumcised anymore so it's 0.99
08:14:21.240 only yeah and it's only it's only if like like for example if you're a grown man and you're
08:14:27.660 getting like reoccurring infections okay and you need it cut off that's when it would happen
08:14:32.620 Uh, I don't know. I'd have to Google that, but at least in the United States, it's still super common for circumcision. So anyways, uh, next, next one.
08:14:45.880 Most men that prefer a woman with a low body count are usually mentally. Oh, it's supposed to be retarded. 1.00
08:14:53.020 So hold on. Just to be clear, I think I can trap you on this one. You say most men that prefer a woman with a low body count are usually mentally retarded. 1.00
08:15:02.620 Given that your body count is zero, any man that would be willing to date you is mentally retarded, is what you're saying. 1.00
08:15:09.340 Yes. 1.00
08:15:10.660 Well, at least she admits it.
08:15:12.440 At least she admits it.
08:15:13.880 So I want you to say, looking into this camera here, right here, look dead in the center of the camera.
08:15:20.720 Be like, if you would ever date me.
08:15:23.300 If you ever, ever date me.
08:15:25.080 You are. 1.00
08:15:25.660 You are mentally retarded. 1.00
08:15:28.100 Wow. 1.00
08:15:28.640 There you go.
08:15:29.760 At least I can take accountability, Brian.
08:15:31.760 Clip it and ship it, boys.
08:15:33.760 All right.
08:15:35.700 You should make a rap song about that.
08:15:38.400 If you would...
08:15:39.320 Wait, hold on. 0.99
08:15:40.800 What rhymes with retarded? 1.00
08:15:46.140 Bombarded? 1.00
08:15:46.940 Restarted?
08:15:49.080 Restarted?
08:15:50.020 Restarted.
08:15:53.020 Okay.
08:15:54.660 More tweets?
08:15:55.480 Is there more tweets from her?
08:15:57.100 T-Dog?
08:15:58.340 What we got?
08:15:59.640 What we got? 0.82
08:16:01.120 think about it in a world full or sorry in a world of white men who often marry white women 1.00
08:16:06.800 these women are put into gender roles and constantly abused the system wasn't made for 0.99
08:16:11.400 white women either i don't give a fuck how you want to flip that but it's important that we all 0.99
08:16:16.140 stand together in unison love is love white men commit the most domestic abuse white men commit 0.99
08:16:26.640 the most domestic abuse yeah in canada anyways so i again i can't speak for the u.s i'm not 0.95
08:16:31.980 gonna bother fact checking it but i think you're probably wrong but even if it's true it's like
08:16:35.340 wait pull it back up that same one tiffany really quick i had one thing on that 1.00
08:16:41.760 how do you arrive at so white women who date white men uh who often 1.00
08:16:50.660 constantly abused what i mean look if really quick if you had to give me a percentage
08:16:58.340 like what percentage of white women who marry white men living in canada what percentage of
08:17:03.620 them are abused 60 60 60 yeah really which would make sense because why are the divorce rates so
08:17:11.240 high robin really yeah come on you gotta robin help me be my caucasian for once right she said
08:17:19.300 60% of women in Canada are abused.
08:17:21.840 Really, Canadian? 0.93
08:17:23.240 Is that good enough? 1.00
08:17:24.020 Yes.
08:17:24.460 All right.
08:17:26.680 What's going on?
08:17:27.620 Come on.
08:17:29.440 60% of Canadians are...
08:17:32.180 It's cold over there, man.
08:17:33.460 What else are they supposed to do?
08:17:35.040 They stay inside and drink a lot.
08:17:36.100 And drink.
08:17:37.160 And what happens when you drink too much?
08:17:39.200 Oh, boy.
08:17:40.600 Oh, my. 1.00
08:17:41.280 Yeah, the women are very abusive in Canada. 1.00
08:17:43.240 We have a fentanyl problem in Canada right now. 1.00
08:17:44.580 Yeah, you women are just abusing the shit out of us white men up there in Canada. 1.00
08:17:48.220 It's fucked up. 1.00
08:17:49.300 I was like that you weren't. 1.00
08:17:52.160 Whoa.
08:17:52.780 Base, Thor donated $100. 0.99
08:17:55.960 Chair 2, are you mixed?
08:17:57.480 Half fine, half mines. 1.00
08:17:59.700 I can fix you by adding you to my health care plan.
08:18:03.320 If we start talking now, we can be in pumpkin patch pics by October and matching PJs by December.
08:18:09.640 Just saying.
08:18:10.860 You know what's funny, though?
08:18:12.700 Thor is actually my celebrity crush.
08:18:15.540 Like Chris Hemsworth.
08:18:16.620 Chris Hemsworth?
08:18:17.600 I don't know about this guy.
08:18:19.080 Wait, what does that have?
08:18:20.120 Oh, Bass Thor.
08:18:21.700 Bass Thor.
08:18:22.520 I don't think that's Chris Hemsworth.
08:18:25.280 Maybe it is.
08:18:26.880 But, yeah.
08:18:29.820 Thank you, Bass Thor, for the TTS there.
08:18:32.700 Appreciate it.
08:18:34.380 Are you mixed race, he's asking?
08:18:36.780 No, I'm full of it.
08:18:37.820 She's full of Vietnamese. 0.99
08:18:38.820 By the way, I did a deep dive on her Instagram. 1.00
08:18:43.120 I went to the very bottom. 0.99
08:18:45.440 Let's just say she's talented in the makeup department. 1.00
08:18:48.880 you know, talented. 1.00
08:18:51.680 You looked
08:18:52.420 a little different.
08:18:55.100 You know what I mean? That's why he thinks you're like
08:18:56.660 Waysian, you know?
08:19:02.380 You don't... Say that into the 1.00
08:19:04.920 mic again for me. I don't think I have that
08:19:06.840 much makeup. Amy's, by the way,
08:19:09.120 Googled it. Infant circumcision is legal 1.00
08:19:10.900 in Canadian. 0.99
08:19:13.940 Getting a lot of
08:19:15.000 misinformation. Okay, next one.
08:19:16.980 is there another tweet from our homie kt
08:19:19.540 sometimes men forget that they make the laws around women's bodies not to mention a woman 0.66
08:19:29.820 peaks in her career in her 50s because she's often sacrifices her success for the man and children
08:19:35.620 literally why i'm bitter and career focused 1.00
08:19:38.740 the fuck are you black now i know what a fire alarm sounds like let me tell you 1.00
08:19:53.720 no you're fine you're fine um is there another one t-dog oh we got base justin based underscore 1.00
08:20:00.700 Justin donated one hundred dollars at least 25 percent of current Canadian population is foreign 1.00
08:20:07.660 born most Punjab in June Canadians are fucked oh thank you ladies and feminist cucks well hey we 0.99
08:20:15.040 got two Canadians here at the table we got um Sabresia we got KT do you guys want to respond 1.00
08:20:23.480 to base justin here now sabrasia where do you land on the immigration i was born in texas
08:20:34.600 wait hold on whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa you were born in the great state of texas yes
08:20:46.040 her and you live in canada my mom's from quebec montreal excuse me whoa okay so you're dual citizen
08:20:56.440 i'm single citizen i can get my canadian oh you don't have canadian citizenship no my mom's from
08:21:03.580 there wait do you live in canada i live in chicago i'm obviously not paying you live in canada you
08:21:10.620 have a mom who's canadian i i live there briefly time in canada you live in chitown chiraq okay
08:21:17.440 okay so you probably don't have much you you don't really care about the immigration in
08:21:24.940 no chicago okay what do you think kt um i think immigration obviously is necessary
08:21:32.860 but but i will say though that like the government in canada has donated to pretty much everybody
08:21:45.900 except for canadians like we have like a homeless problem we have a drug problem we have um just
08:21:53.220 like um like a problem um employment problem like we have all these problems right and they're not
08:22:00.360 getting dealt with but like tell me why 125 million is going back in remittance like things
08:22:07.100 like that right so to other places and when canadians are suffering true r.i.p canada
08:22:14.400 r.i.p canada uh okay oh the tweets are we done with the tweets or is there more from kt
08:22:21.060 because some of them are janay night okay let's see these
08:22:26.580 whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa what 0.99
08:22:31.540 what yeah read it real men like their ass is eaten i read somewhere that's facts i'm sorry 1.00
08:22:40.560 are 28 year old virgins saying men enjoy their i have a lot of male friends that have told me 0.99
08:22:50.940 that that that no i have not eaten anybody's ass why would you tweet that i thought it was funny 0.99
08:22:57.260 Do you not tweet funny things? 0.99
08:22:59.360 No, I'm very dull and boring.
08:23:01.860 And boring?
08:23:02.260 Yeah.
08:23:03.040 Brian.
08:23:03.620 It is funny.
08:23:04.340 It is funny.
08:23:05.120 It is funny.
08:23:05.740 I'm following you, by the way.
08:23:06.820 Late to the show donated $100.
08:23:09.600 Fun math.
08:23:10.900 RAIN organization estimates 301,580 essay cases a year.
08:23:17.260 There are 176 million U.S. males.
08:23:20.940 If only males essayed and each was done by a different one, that's 1,600 guilty men and 599 that you blame.
08:23:30.560 I definitely think, and by the way, you're saying that's the stats from Moraine.
08:23:34.240 I believe the FBI and DOJ put the numbers even lower.
08:23:39.100 Some of these statistics, the 1 in 3, 1 in 4, these statistics are very much sort of exaggerated. 0.97
08:23:48.220 did uh anyways back to the fun talk about ass eating so um wow that's crazy so you think guys
08:23:56.740 enjoy that or well some guys have told me that's what they do enjoy and i mean like i can't i can't 0.84
08:24:03.320 i'm not a fan i've been hearing it from guys like around 20 are you looking at me that way 0.99
08:24:08.500 no you just no you will not eat my ass i will not let you do that 0.99
08:24:16.060 Tatum looked disappointed 1.00
08:24:19.460 I was like I'm not into that
08:24:22.720 and Tatum started like actually
08:24:24.420 she thought something was going to happen after the show
08:24:28.940 but I'm like yo
08:24:29.720 she's going home with me actually
08:24:32.960 it's the three of us
08:24:35.220 the feeling is mutual
08:24:37.660 I've been hearing it's a trend
08:24:40.800 about stuff for guys under 30
08:24:43.160 even under 25 it's even more so
08:24:45.760 The ones that are cracking, they're doing all that stuff. 0.99
08:24:49.880 Prostate massage, butt stuff, licking the butt, everything. 0.94
08:24:53.160 I've never done any of it in my life, either way. 0.99
08:24:56.360 No prostate massage? 0.94
08:24:57.380 I would turn a girl. 0.99
08:24:58.960 Oh, yeah. 1.00
08:24:59.940 Not for me.
08:25:00.900 Not for me.
08:25:02.340 Not for me.
08:25:03.540 Okay. 0.99
08:25:04.040 So you're not a real man?
08:25:06.100 I guess so, yeah. 1.00
08:25:09.160 You're not a real man if you don't let a woman. 1.00
08:25:15.160 Tongue or butthole? 1.00
08:25:16.780 Yes. 0.97
08:25:18.080 Manly.
08:25:18.800 Match it.
08:25:19.100 Yeah, something to that. 1.00
08:25:20.460 You want to tongue butthole as what? 0.95
08:25:24.980 I just think, just with statistics and what I've read on, 0.99
08:25:30.400 there's a lot of studies that show that men who have an increase in porn watching
08:25:37.100 or sex addiction, then those more like wild things they desire to do.
08:25:45.160 and they actually
08:25:46.340 take action before. 0.91
08:25:48.440 But their big orgasm spot 1.00
08:25:51.480 is in their butt, right? 1.00
08:25:54.240 Confirmed? 1.00
08:25:55.080 Why would men be made like that 0.89
08:25:58.180 if it wasn't supposed to
08:25:59.460 be explored?
08:26:01.660 I don't know.
08:26:02.460 Is that why you take a long time in the bathroom?
08:26:06.660 Oh my god! 0.99
08:26:08.400 No, she was timing you. 0.98
08:26:10.160 No!
08:26:11.820 Is that why men take so long 1.00
08:26:14.120 in the bathroom for when they go 1.00
08:26:16.020 to the restroom.
08:26:17.320 Maybe sometimes.
08:26:18.600 They're just sitting there and doing it.
08:26:21.980 I don't think so.
08:26:24.860 Honestly, I think they just sit there
08:26:26.440 and scroll around on their phone.
08:26:27.940 They zone out and they just 1.00
08:26:30.000 look at memes and shit. 1.00
08:26:31.580 Cars and stuff, whatever the fuck they like. 0.99
08:26:34.680 Okay, is there more tweets? 0.99
08:26:36.700 Tiffany?
08:26:38.660 We got another example.
08:26:39.480 Those tweets are during COVID time.
08:26:41.680 Those are during COVID time.
08:26:43.020 I know, you really scrolled for those ones.
08:26:44.960 Wow.
08:26:45.900 You really scrolled for those ones.
08:26:48.140 That's a long time.
08:26:48.940 Who's vaccinated?
08:26:51.300 Can I ask that?
08:26:52.120 I got vaccinated, and then after I got saved, I didn't believe in vaccination.
08:26:56.940 I was in health care, so I had to.
08:26:58.840 Me too.
08:26:59.320 I wanted some time off from work.
08:27:00.740 Tweet.
08:27:01.020 They gave me time off for it.
08:27:03.680 It's this simple. 0.70
08:27:04.860 We live in a world with political systems made by men, officials elected by a room full of men,
08:27:09.940 and there's this cycle of unreported women abuse why is this okay i wish i had time to dive into 1.00
08:27:16.280 that but wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong next sorry no time some men are just too pussy to stand up 0.97
08:27:25.440 for women and their truths and do you really think if doctors were only men in the 1800s 0.98
08:27:31.320 that men's health hasn't been important yeah okay what do you mean by women's truths what 0.69
08:27:37.180 you mean by that well just like just like they're like just the truth about their body truth about 0.89
08:27:44.340 their health like that women's truths like you know like we can't set a standard for for health
08:27:51.740 care as a general thing when we have different biology so is this the whole like there are more
08:27:58.340 studies done on men yes thing yep um okay i won't linger on it long but my quick rebuttal to this 0.52
08:28:06.860 would be, I actually think it's, this would be evidence of women's privilege that they don't 0.67
08:28:11.300 feel that they need to like offer up their body to science to be experimented on. So I think it 0.97
08:28:18.020 would actually point to women living more comfortable lives that they don't feel this 1.00
08:28:22.300 desperation to resorting to, you know what, I'm going to let this experimental drug be pumped
08:28:28.420 into me for money so men are more willing to like bring harm to themselves to like i don't know is
08:28:38.060 it really male privilege that there's like men are more willing to be experimented on um i i would
08:28:45.380 disagree with that just because i work in health care and i have a lot of terminally ill uh women
08:28:50.240 that are more than happy to well there has well there has to be an actual trial going on oh for
08:28:56.640 There's not always going to be like a trial that's available for these people who are ill.
08:29:00.540 But even in addition to that, like, I would say that, how do I best frame this? 0.58
08:29:12.920 Like, do you think that somebody who's willing, like, I would actually point to, how do we know it's just that women are less willing to undergo medical experimentation?
08:29:25.860 and so that's why there's less women in these trials i feel like we wouldn't be talking about 0.51
08:29:34.500 it still well well it would be we're getting the help that they need hold on but
08:29:40.500 wait i'll know if we're talking past each other talking about different things
08:29:45.520 so when it comes to like you're saying well medicines aren't tested on women as much and
08:29:51.160 And like certain drugs aren't test on women as much.
08:29:54.200 And I'm like, if this is like a novel experimental drug where you could potentially die in the trials or you could have like really bad health consequences, I don't think it points to male privilege that more men are medically experimented on.
08:30:07.860 I think it points to perhaps male desperation or female privilege because women get to like move through life not feeling desperate enough to be like, yeah, pump me full of drugs.
08:30:21.160 that are experimental i still i still disagree with that just because i work with patients every
08:30:27.180 single day who wish that there was something out there to help them the claim is not there's no 0.94
08:30:33.740 will there's no women who are uh willing to do medical like um do medical trials that's not the
08:30:40.940 claim the claim is men are more likely and that is actually just factually true men are more likely
08:30:46.480 to go like yeah i'll participate in the trial pump me full of drugs give me money
08:30:50.380 I don't care what the health ramifications are
08:30:53.280 men are viewed as more disposable
08:30:55.020 men are viewed as the disposable sex
08:30:57.040 and men themselves often treat themselves
08:30:59.840 they adhere to this
08:31:01.860 to their own detriment
08:31:03.440 and treat themselves as disposable
08:31:05.440 this is why you see much more 1.00
08:31:07.100 like women are far more likely 1.00
08:31:08.760 and this is actually perhaps a compliment towards women 0.68
08:31:11.700 women are more likely to go to the doctor
08:31:14.220 women are more likely to take a
08:31:16.000 preoccupation with their health 0.99
08:31:18.060 whereas men are just like tape it up 0.83
08:31:20.540 Men are more likely to just be like, the wives have to tell their husbands, go to the doctor. 0.98
08:31:26.800 Oh, I can agree with that. 0.99
08:31:27.420 So I think like women, perhaps in this way, I would say it's smarter to have a greater push towards your own health care. 0.95
08:31:36.980 But yeah, men even treat themselves as disposable. 0.96
08:31:40.800 So yeah, go ahead.
08:31:44.060 It's interesting because I think that they really just don't talk about it.
08:31:48.040 But over the years, I've noticed that especially blue collar working class men are so willing to sacrifice their bodies in these like really physically demanding jobs.
08:31:58.920 And they're willing to just really hurt themselves. 0.92
08:32:01.020 Oh, yeah.
08:32:01.160 Like their knees, increment, like truck driving, like any kind of construction, roofing.
08:32:06.940 These guys are absolutely destroying their bodies.
08:32:09.140 And they, you know, it's like they're not going to have a good quality of life when they get older because everything is going to be just the cartel, everything just ruined.
08:32:16.180 and i'm like i'm like i see them i'm like what are you doing like stop because i'm like
08:32:20.200 but then that and then like willing to join the army of the military and going to the meat grinder
08:32:24.880 and just like be like my body is a human shield and like but they don't talk about it so like i
08:32:30.940 used to think like men women really we sacrifice our bodies in childbirth and house cleaning we're
08:32:36.120 just working ourselves to the bone doing all this like physical labor in the house but the flip side
08:32:41.360 of it is that men are doing it but they're just they don't talk about it well yeah i've only seen
08:32:47.700 it through observation they don't talk about the fact that yeah all these guys are like yeah i'm
08:32:51.880 in the front lines i'm probably just gonna get mowed down or you know what i mean like
08:32:54.960 well you're i mean you're 100 spot on the men in the trades that you mentioned
08:32:59.600 you know they're but even even men who are like you know like white collar guys like they'll still
08:33:04.840 be like oh i lost the thumb doing this you know what i mean and i'm like did you just not even
08:33:08.800 they don't care like about their body yep men are a bit more reckless my knee is gone I pulled it
08:33:15.360 I'm just you know I don't know discs gone like crazy and I'm like I mean no one's tending to
08:33:20.420 this like and even you can even extend this to like men do engage in more risky behavior this
08:33:28.060 even is like can be more extreme examples like men are more likely to impress me on your dirt
08:33:32.600 bike like you are going to die i was like stop yeah extreme sports uh extreme sports they're
08:33:38.380 they're bigger risk takers often to their detriment but sometimes to their benefit but
08:33:43.040 but they're willing to take that risk because they they're willing i've noticed they're just
08:33:48.420 willing they're willing to take on these costs in some cases these risks because they feel like
08:33:53.740 they need to well i would say like um sort of related to that that um these men who are breaking
08:34:01.200 their bodies working laborious jobs they're not doing that to like oppress women and like the
08:34:09.080 evil patriarchy well these men many of them are breaking their bodies for their family for their
08:34:16.180 wife for their kids for their family so i don't know this idea that like evil male patriarchy
08:34:22.240 blah blah men are so oppressive it's like no actually men are very sacrificial quite a bit
08:34:26.520 like i think that when when women make a ton of money they say i don't need a man when a man
08:34:33.100 makes a ton of money he's like i can provide for my wife and kids so it's kind of interesting 0.98
08:34:39.460 thought there uh is there another tweet tiffany oh my god what the fuck okay it's going through 0.96
08:34:45.320 my twitter whoa hold whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa read it to be honest i had to get an iud 0.99
08:34:56.380 because men try to trap me doing shit like holes in condoms 0.98
08:34:59.680 and saying they're going to put a condom, but don't, and tell me. 0.99
08:35:03.940 I'm not complacent, so apparently that's how you make someone complacent.
08:35:08.280 SOS, I'm running from these men. 1.00
08:35:11.040 You're a fucking liar. You're a fucking liar. 1.00
08:35:13.940 All right. Okay, 28-year-old virgin. Come on. 1.00
08:35:18.860 How can you tweet that?
08:35:20.820 Don't tell me you're lying. 0.98
08:35:21.940 How can you tweet that and be a virgin? 0.96
08:35:24.220 You've all been trolled 0.95
08:35:27.180 Bruh
08:35:28.800 Okay now you have to tell us the real body count
08:35:31.100 No
08:35:31.940 Really?
08:35:34.120 Yeah
08:35:34.480 Oh my god bro
08:35:36.020 I have a question about Canadian law
08:35:38.740 I have a question about Canadian law
08:35:41.540 So do you guys have a sleuthing law? 0.99
08:35:45.580 Like if a man
08:35:46.580 claims that he's using a condom
08:35:48.920 and like takes it off
08:35:50.300 or just pretends he's even using a condom
08:35:52.520 that's like called sleuthing
08:35:53.940 do you guys have any no no thanks no i'm anything that can happen to them are you women not upset
08:36:00.260 that she lied to all of you yes i am i'm not mad i was rooting for her
08:36:06.260 what's the body count i'm not telling you
08:36:10.260 it's not high but i'm again like i'm a health care approval like i'm in a health care occupation so
08:36:19.020 but it's not really my, not a thing.
08:36:22.840 But why lie about that?
08:36:23.960 Why lie?
08:36:24.600 I think it's a, not to like demean you or anything,
08:36:28.180 but I just think it's a little silly that you hide that,
08:36:30.040 but then you tweet all that stuff.
08:36:31.480 Like, it's like, what's the privacy on the body count,
08:36:34.860 but then you tweet all those things.
08:36:41.060 Because then, like, no, it's like, I shouldn't have to.
08:36:45.120 well look if you don't want to share the exact body count but i think even before we got to the
08:36:50.680 body count didn't you sit like do this charade that you're a virgin yeah and i spent like five
08:36:58.660 ten minutes wasting my time on a charade charade charade yes charade oh my god
08:37:05.980 i literally told a guy earlier today that i didn't want to talk to him because i thought he lied and 0.95
08:37:12.360 i have no evidence and i was sitting here i feel so stupid that i was sitting here trying to believe
08:37:16.320 you while like i flipped out on a guy earlier like i'm like i'm like yelling at this guy 0.57
08:37:21.400 oh man waste of time um okay well at least she told drake how she really feels about him
08:37:29.280 you know hopefully hopefully well he can probably still get it does she have more tweets tiffany
08:37:34.560 what's that based thor donated 100 all right brian bring out the makeup removal wipes
08:37:43.380 my name is actually thor thor and kaylee sounds pretty good together i don't ask for much just
08:37:50.220 bring peace and look pretty by the lake in my backyard i don't know kaylee you're one of the
08:37:58.240 prettiest women i've seen like in person yeah like in my life so i make up or no makeup like
08:38:03.180 what do i want to add to that for me i i don't know um i feel like it doesn't matter how hot
08:38:09.460 you actually are it matters how hot you can be when it's needed that's all it matters
08:38:15.420 am i right brian what like if you i was zoning out so i'm saying it doesn't matter how hot you
08:38:22.700 actually are it's how hot you can be and you asked me if you're right you're asking me for
08:38:30.500 affirmation on that like let's say if you bring like you have like a uh friends meeting or anything
08:38:36.340 and you bring like you guys all bring your girls and then let's say your girl's like not that high
08:38:41.700 at home but like you bring and she gets super hot is that all that matters though i disagree i think
08:38:48.140 what's really attractive is when a woman is um modest and gentle and you know patient and kind
08:38:53.980 well of course
08:38:55.120 for sure
08:38:56.220 but we're just
08:38:56.740 talking about
08:38:57.120 guys don't give a 1.00
08:38:57.940 shit bisexual 1.00
08:38:59.100 well I mean 1.00
08:39:01.060 guys say they want
08:39:03.740 that but then they
08:39:04.380 taste a hot toxic
08:39:05.480 they do
08:39:06.240 they really do
08:39:07.180 every time
08:39:07.720 yeah it's all
08:39:08.360 about like
08:39:08.800 image
08:39:09.540 I like
08:39:10.540 so okay 0.99
08:39:11.740 a woman who 1.00
08:39:12.440 bolsters 0.99
08:39:12.940 based underscore
08:39:15.940 Justin donated
08:39:17.000 one hundred
08:39:17.720 dollars
08:39:18.320 Canada has a
08:39:19.540 white liberal 0.70
08:39:20.100 unicorn problem 0.56
08:39:21.320 thanks for
08:39:22.480 explanting C4
08:39:24.320 You are exactly the issue that shall be resolved for multiple issues.
08:39:28.540 Thank you for playing.
08:39:29.800 Thank you, Bass, Justin.
08:39:30.980 Appreciate your TTS.
08:39:32.360 Do you have a response to that?
08:39:35.820 Go listen to my album.
08:39:37.820 Oh, my goodness.
08:39:38.320 That's right, girl.
08:39:41.580 So really quick on your point. 1.00
08:39:43.520 i think that um a woman who's artificially bolsters her level of attractiveness through 0.99
08:39:53.320 the use of makeup and it could be um plastic surgery it could be cosmetic uh like lip filler
08:40:01.320 botox etc i uh so it might be true that this is you say it's like you're you're with your friends
08:40:08.880 and your your friends are like wow she's really hot but it's like yeah i understand that that if 1.00
08:40:14.160 she's artificially bolstering her appearance and it does make her more attractive that is status 1.00
08:40:20.000 um but like the ultimate status is dating like a beautiful woman who doesn't have or need any of 1.00
08:40:27.380 that shit and the secondary thing is women can so substantially change their physical appearance 1.00
08:40:33.980 through makeup plastic surgery botox lip filler that like what if we're getting down to 1.00
08:40:40.780 sort of biological basis for physical attraction it's procreation why should you be attracted to
08:40:50.300 a woman so you have sex with her so you have kids so you propagate the human species
08:40:54.680 as humans we want to confer as many benefits as possible to our children 0.88
08:41:00.000 so now look i understand you can have like two really good-looking people and sometimes their 0.99
08:41:06.800 offspring not so good-looking whatever you can have two like mid ugly people even and they can
08:41:13.900 make like a good-looking kid however generally speaking on the balance of probabilities when
08:41:18.660 two looking two good-looking people come together they typically end up making good-looking kids
08:41:23.480 so one of the reasons that we're attract like find other people physically attractive is so
08:41:29.120 uh well one of the reasons not the only reason is to confer uh good genes to our kids there's a 1.00
08:41:36.920 evolutionary basis for this biological basis for this and so when a woman bamboozles her way 0.89
08:41:42.180 into reproduction through uh fake through a smoke screen um the the well in respect to like 0.75
08:41:53.440 you were saying all men care about as long as the friends think she's hot that's what matters 1.00
08:41:57.640 and it's like well no like if she's actually ugly but she like puts on some makeup and she's like 1.00
08:42:03.040 hotter it's like yeah but then our kids are gonna be ugly and i don't you know rather to have your 1.00
08:42:10.780 beautiful well kind of good looking kids but like the wife is like not hot but she's like 0.98
08:42:17.280 somewhat like good looking or you want like a super hot wife but your kids is not gonna be 0.98
08:42:21.740 well you you obviously want both so you want the super hot wife i mean and you want you want to
08:42:29.040 pass on good genes to your kid and that that's best of both worlds and that's that's not the
08:42:33.960 argument you have to have them straight out like not necessarily i mean it's it's a good chance if
08:42:39.240 you mate with someone who's attractive that's going to like your kids are going to also be
08:42:43.820 good looking and we want our kids to have a good life we want them to have as many positive benefits
08:42:49.860 as possible. Pretty privilege is a huge, huge benefit for both men and women. If you're good
08:42:54.480 looking, people treat you better. You get better jobs. Um, you move through life better. If you're,
08:42:59.500 if you're in a criminal, like if you commit a crime and you're good looking, like the juries
08:43:04.860 are much more, um, um, favorable towards good looking. Um, not that you obviously you hope
08:43:12.740 your kids don't commit crimes. I'm just giving, giving another example for why pretty privilege
08:43:17.680 is a thing and how it's a thing you can get like a naturally beautiful wife and that's not a 0.90
08:43:26.120 question anymore i'm saying like you want like an average like somewhat good-looking woman but 1.00
08:43:32.440 like a like super hot one but like take off her makeup she's like uglier that's what i'm asking 1.00
08:43:38.840 if you can get like a naturally super good-looking woman and that that's not the that's not a 1.00
08:43:43.540 question anymore like of course everybody wants that but right well i mean i don't know so okay 0.99
08:43:50.820 so you're saying if she puts on makeup and then she's like fake hot like she's gonna be like
08:43:57.080 victoria's secret oh she's gonna be like i don't know all eyes on her how does one uh i mean i
08:44:03.540 believe in taking the red pill i believe in uncomfortable truths over comforting lies
08:44:10.500 and so yeah like the the facade just doesn't really do it for me i guess like it's just a bamboozle
08:44:20.580 are there any more from kt tiffany okay let's do that
08:44:26.980 gotta find a man that turns you into a softy just knows how to handle you men do not want to have 0.99
08:44:34.920 to handle a woman. We want a woman who brings peace, a woman who is, uh, pleasant, who we get 0.81
08:44:42.160 along with. No man wants to have to handle a woman. And I suspect women don't really want
08:44:49.240 to handle a man either. They don't want to handle some man child, blah, blah, blah. They don't want 0.95
08:44:54.920 that. I don't think I meant it in a, like a negative connotation. I think I meant it like,
08:44:59.980 you know like fragile
08:45:01.880 handle with care
08:45:03.780 okay perhaps I misunderstood
08:45:05.860 yeah well
08:45:07.560 I need to get through everybody else's notes we're all done with
08:45:10.140 yours there's your red card
08:45:12.040 for the lie you're getting red
08:45:14.200 carded thank you for coming on the podcast
08:45:15.960 appreciate it have a good one
08:45:17.280 you too thank you
08:45:19.720 what's red card
08:45:21.040 peace out peace out you too homie 0.75
08:45:26.360 this 0.99
08:45:28.220 is
08:45:28.760 all right let me blast through the rest of the notes here uh i should i do an adjustment is 1.00
08:45:35.700 anybody pregnant no nobody's pregnant oh no that's next week my bad we have a pregnant person coming
08:45:42.900 next week oh that's exciting um wait let me have you do you want to sit over there can you like 0.98
08:45:48.820 room or uh a little bit she has a whole side with you or is it too or you know what just
08:45:56.540 stay here forget it forget it just stay here just stay here please thank you all right all right um
08:46:02.520 sorry but we have two microphones and we're hungry oh uh we do have some does it all good pizza
08:46:10.320 oh okay um yeah we'll uh who wants pizza no thank you yes yes no i'll take some one two
08:46:24.780 three four five uh we should have enough can i raise this uh yeah just leave it there it's
08:46:31.920 it's it's fine it's fine i know can i have soup instead my person you guys think i should
08:46:40.500 apologize to the guy i accused of lying and i have no clue if he was really lying no it's okay
08:46:46.120 she's we're waiting for tiffany and we'll get we'll get you guys pizza once two slices one
08:46:52.140 slice two one what kind is it pepperoni pizza i'll take two uh tiffany uh one one one
08:47:00.960 okay four six slices of pizza two for chair one one slice i'm hungry nah we're gonna have to
08:47:11.760 microwave it oven's gonna be too crazy uh okay blasting through the notes almost done uh we got
08:47:17.980 Elise. Ooh, this is a good question
08:47:19.820 for my homegirls here
08:47:21.900 from the... Wait, no,
08:47:23.940 not others. Yes, Bunny.
08:47:25.540 Bunny and Sherry's.
08:47:28.960 All right.
08:47:31.720 Question
08:47:32.240 for you guys. Do your
08:47:33.960 parents know?
08:47:36.400 No, but they're about to.
08:47:39.340 Okay.
08:47:40.460 My whole entire family knows, and
08:47:41.980 I'm not ashamed, and they're supporting me.
08:47:44.340 All right. T-Dog?
08:47:46.240 Tatum?
08:47:47.980 oh uh yes all my parents step-parents okay yeah your parents don't know what do you mean they
08:47:54.820 are i was incognito i i hid from the world i had a double life i'd work at the brothel and then i
08:48:01.600 would go home to my life but i hit a point where i was like i'm not doing this anymore so i'm on
08:48:06.620 the podcast and i just created a reddit ama that got three million views in like a week and then
08:48:12.640 i just at the same time created an instagram and a tiktok so i'm basically public now i'm on the
08:48:17.320 whatever podcast and yeah i'm out so whoever finds out finds out and i'm probably not going
08:48:22.780 to be able to ever go home um or you know my childhood friends kids i went to school like
08:48:28.300 all gone how many pieces are in there tiffany is like did you
08:48:34.720 is it you full power
08:48:39.880 okay um all right uh sure you know what you're doing tiffany tiffany you know what you're doing
08:48:53.820 uh do you think you'll tell your parents or are you gonna wait for them to find out
08:48:59.340 they find out they find out i'm not are you are you uh i don't really talk to them anyway you 0.75
08:49:04.300 don't talk to them okay um do your parents know that you do of they're gonna kill me if they know 0.83
08:49:09.260 they don't know yeah asian parents are not okay with this they are not no i'm done like they find 0.79
08:49:15.140 out it's okay i will say um it was just um really hard for me to stomach lying to my family and they
08:49:21.500 kept they were like why are you so happy um so it was it was why are you glowing why do you look
08:49:27.560 ageless why are you like so happy and i couldn't keep lying to these people i couldn't sit with
08:49:32.900 that so now they know and they don't they really they couldn't care less i'm very grateful all
08:49:38.940 Elise, you dropped out of dental school right before the brothels.
08:49:47.000 You were getting your doctorate. 0.72
08:49:47.840 Talked about that.
08:49:48.660 You were in Afghanistan in 2011 as a contractor.
08:49:51.600 Military contractor?
08:49:53.040 Private.
08:49:54.400 Private military contractor?
08:49:57.120 Or wait.
08:49:57.700 I was.
08:49:59.600 God, that gives my age away, though.
08:50:01.900 But I was refusing to say it.
08:50:04.780 Because Elise Winter is my stage name.
08:50:06.820 Right.
08:50:07.020 so obviously 27 is my stage age uh that's the age that i have on the website as well my working
08:50:15.080 this is all my like if you go to strip club they're not giving you their real names so it's
08:50:18.560 the same thing with the brothels we don't really give our real names and ages because people will
08:50:22.360 stalk you and they'll find you and they'll find you and they'll come home to your house and that's
08:50:26.400 why i said for safety reasons so it's it's policy it's company policy okay but uh but so you were
08:50:32.320 in Afghanistan in what capacity? So I was a, we call them interpreter managers. So I was a site
08:50:38.760 manager. Um, I was vetted through Fayetteville. I got basic secret clearance and I, this was before
08:50:45.400 my brothel. So I lived a whole normal life before I decided to go into this. And, um, basically
08:50:51.400 interpreters are mission essential personnel. And I was just working in an administrative capacity.
08:50:56.780 um yeah for the australian i'm an australian contract so okay uh but not you weren't in like
08:51:05.120 um you weren't a soldier no it was administrative yeah i was a pencil pusher i was but but you were
08:51:12.500 attached to military i was providing yeah i was providing basic yeah paperwork services but i
08:51:19.340 mean we were getting mortared all the time so i could have died pretty easily like fun got injured
08:51:23.240 fun fun it was fun it was a good time it's crazy now i recall from tatum's previous episode that
08:51:32.280 like you guys can't talk about prices that's illegal is it with the government considers us
08:51:38.160 doing solicitation so if we say numbers then we're soliciting the public and it's but might i ask this
08:51:44.720 if you were like say you were talking about your knowledge of the experience of other women
08:51:50.640 would that constitute solicitation? 0.96
08:51:54.180 Yeah, and we would lose our jobs, and we make a lot of money,
08:51:57.040 so we just don't risk it.
08:51:58.240 Because they'll come for us.
08:51:59.560 We'll get fired.
08:52:00.120 As an attorney, I believe there's a loophole here.
08:52:03.340 You see this cup?
08:52:04.580 I'm not going to risk it.
08:52:06.100 There might actually be a loophole, but until my boss tells me it's okay,
08:52:09.620 I'm not going to do it.
08:52:10.060 You see the cup?
08:52:10.800 Yeah.
08:52:11.740 Say I wanted to sell this cup.
08:52:13.280 Yeah.
08:52:14.880 How much might I be able to sell this cup to somebody?
08:52:18.360 yeah right what that's completely legitimate what you're trying to sell the jazz design
08:52:25.760 what no the you can say whatever you want to i'm not gonna say my my dna is on this because i've
08:52:31.880 been drinking from the cup and i can maybe sell it on ebay for a certain amount how much do you
08:52:36.860 think i might be able to sell the cup on ebay right right right in fortnight all right okay
08:52:44.560 that's fine I'm not gonna um that's a very legitimate loophole but I'm also just not
08:52:49.700 gonna risk my six-figure salary for a funny question you know that's fine yeah yep um can
08:52:55.620 you say like perhaps instead of um like an individual can you say like how much a woman
08:53:02.040 makes like in a year is that a more fair question you said you make six figures so I don't know if
08:53:06.760 is that I feel like I might even be I have no idea but I feel like I've actually said that in
08:53:11.260 front of my boss and they've not had an issue with it because it's not a specific number right
08:53:15.100 for a pricing it's just like here's how much i make an annual yes not confirming nor denying
08:53:20.520 all right um are you guys open to answering that like how much you can google it online you can
08:53:27.000 google it you can actually go on google and find previous clients and they're allowed to talk about
08:53:31.100 they're allowed to post the numbers what they paid and stuff like reddit as well please be on top of
08:53:35.220 so I've had
08:53:37.760 my boss be like that's fine
08:53:40.540 if they go on Google and they find it on their own
08:53:42.660 would you be able to say like if we're
08:53:44.500 looking at the average girl how much
08:53:46.380 she makes in a year is that
08:53:48.280 there's actually
08:53:50.220 quite a range
08:53:51.220 no there's not because in the 0.99
08:53:54.340 brothels there's such a range 1.00
08:53:56.160 there's because they're trying to catch 0.99
08:53:58.460 the whole market are there male brothels 1.00
08:54:00.480 we wish there were 0.99
08:54:02.040 we wish there were trans brothels actually
08:54:04.320 we were just talking about that last night if i was a offering my services in a wait hold on
08:54:11.600 i got cash but wait i was gonna say wait i got something on that um
08:54:16.760 it would just be like gay dudes so like i'm not gay for how do you know
08:54:21.620 in japan there's boyfriends for hire and it's all wealthy women well japan's it's very unique
08:54:29.060 like they have hosts it doesn't have to they have host clubs but they don't have to it doesn't
08:54:32.780 Open a host club in the U.S.
08:54:34.720 A host club would not work in the United States.
08:54:38.000 Why not?
08:54:38.940 It almost did.
08:54:39.880 I think it would.
08:54:40.880 It almost did.
08:54:41.680 I think these guys would make money.
08:54:43.560 I think these boys would make money.
08:54:44.620 No, I think Japan has a very unique culture.
08:54:47.940 I don't think some of the merchants in Japan would find success here with their business model.
08:54:58.620 um like host clubs like women don't pay like women at least in the u.s are not changing 0.88
08:55:05.780 there's a lot of older wealthy women who are absolutely i saw this i saw this great documentary 0.94
08:55:12.020 i believe it came out in 2006 called the oh fuck the great happiness space um and it was a
08:55:20.200 documentary about host clubs this is like mid 2000s japan i love it and uh it was stylish cafe
08:55:28.340 I cannot believe I even remember that
08:55:31.020 No, but I'm filing it away to watch
08:55:34.740 I'm excited to watch
08:55:35.980 It's actually a really 0.98
08:55:36.960 Paradise for men 0.99
08:55:39.320 But it's actually a really good documentary
08:55:41.940 It's called The Great Happiness Space
08:55:43.760 And they follow these male hosts
08:55:45.800 Who basically make like hundreds of thousands of dollars a year
08:55:48.940 Entertaining lonely women 1.00
08:55:51.920 Many of whom are actually sex workers themselves 0.98
08:55:54.580 That's what I'm saying 0.95
08:55:56.500 all my girlfriends we have money and we would pay for it yeah me too yeah yeah like i know too many 1.00
08:56:01.640 women that would pay for it well i i see the draw perhaps for women who are sex workers a little bit
08:56:08.140 but i feel like like there's not a draw for women really like i don't think it would be a good
08:56:13.360 business uh i don't know but how much would i make if i was uh oh my god how much what do you think
08:56:21.580 you just looks max but like with your riz alone because what they're really looking for is like
08:56:27.060 they want a guy they want the conversation you'd be a cute little pool boy you know
08:56:31.600 and like do you just like treat me like the way i want to be treated and you might have to fake
08:56:39.280 some of it and that's fine because i'm paying i'm not gonna make much of you come in you say
08:56:42.620 oh you're a four yeah but you gotta be like you are a 10 baby like yeah you would have to you'd
08:56:49.820 have to that's what the job yeah uh want two for uh so the the two pizzas are for her
08:56:56.980 smells nice right yeah uh so it was her i'm sorry i forgot who wanted what this side of the table
08:57:04.560 that's it is the temperature okay it's not like scorching hot it's perfect thank you oh my gosh
08:57:12.080 all right we got some pizza here for the gals we have we have more by the way if anybody else
08:57:17.380 One, two, three.
08:57:21.100 Oh, I think there's an extra plate. 0.98
08:57:23.540 Tiffany, just take that plate, and then she wanted two, I guess.
08:57:28.240 I'm hungry.
08:57:30.420 I hope it's properly microwaved.
08:57:34.260 Is it microwaved?
08:57:36.800 It's all right.
08:57:37.800 It's warm, also.
08:57:39.400 Okay, all right.
08:57:41.100 Thank you.
08:57:41.840 Thank you.
08:57:43.060 You're welcome.
08:57:44.380 um what was i going with this oh who here has cash on them anybody have cash at least
08:57:52.120 no because the way that we get paid is like a little like a payroll it's like
08:57:56.620 it's like we get paid every two weeks by a direct deposit through like but
08:58:01.360 right but do you have cash no do you have cash on you in your car do you have cash on you cash
08:58:08.420 you have cash cash cash on you why didn't you ask me oh well i don't know you were
08:58:15.980 picking something off off the ground uh for what like in your purse here oh no i do not carry 0.80
08:58:22.560 darn okay well i was gonna say you know look i'm if any women want to give me a little cash i'll
08:58:29.180 take i'll take a little bit cash if you know um what are you offering this is the entry point 0.92
08:58:38.220 I just need a $200 tribute to get started, and then we can...
08:58:42.480 A tribute?
08:58:43.440 A tribute? 1.00
08:58:44.400 Whoa, you think I'm a cheap bitch? 1.00
08:58:46.680 Bro, I'm expensive. 1.00
08:58:48.140 $200 for nothing?
08:58:48.980 I'm expensive.
08:58:50.100 Are you soliciting, Brian?
08:58:51.720 Yes.
08:58:52.220 No.
08:58:52.540 Yes, you?
08:58:53.180 Absolutely.
08:58:54.360 This is a voluntary gift.
08:58:56.920 No, I'm not offering sex.
08:58:58.760 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 1.00
08:58:59.860 You think I'm giving dick for $200? 1.00
08:59:03.060 You said that figure out of your mouth. 1.00
08:59:04.620 You think...
08:59:05.220 Bro, I ain't giving...
08:59:06.520 No, no.
08:59:08.100 Those are rookie numbers.
08:59:09.800 Pump those numbers up. 0.99
08:59:11.940 You think I'm giving dick for 200? 1.00
08:59:13.760 And then you get dumped by text. 1.00
08:59:15.940 I don't know. 0.98
08:59:16.580 How much to say, Nubian goddess, I love your tiny labia. 1.00
08:59:20.360 How much cash you got on your right hand? 1.00
08:59:21.880 That's a cool one.
08:59:22.460 I keep saying it over and over again for 30 minutes straight. 0.99
08:59:24.520 That's ridiculous. 0.98
08:59:25.780 And stare me directly in my arm. 1.00
08:59:27.920 Stare in your fake contact eyes.
08:59:29.400 Wait, can I pay to watch?
08:59:32.280 You're right into it.
08:59:33.780 Wait, pick a microphone.
08:59:36.060 you're like back and forth between
08:59:37.300 I know
08:59:37.840 I like double
08:59:41.540 my contacts are actually
08:59:44.260 real contacts they might not be my eye
08:59:46.240 color but they're not fake contacts like I use
08:59:48.180 them to see well fake color contact I guess
08:59:50.160 who else has
08:59:52.120 black eyes with a blue circle they're not
08:59:54.180 even made to mimic a real eye color
08:59:55.760 fake contacts
08:59:58.120 fake color
08:59:58.680 they're not made to mimic real eyes like they're made to stand out
09:00:02.220 I guess 1.00
09:00:02.740 Duchess who the fuck 1.00
09:00:05.460 That's me. 1.00
09:00:06.900 Oh, right.
09:00:09.060 You dated a deacon at a church that thought him and Alicia Keys were soulmates who telepathically communicated with each other.
09:00:16.140 Wow.
09:00:17.280 I was dating this guy from, I was dating a deacon from a church and he told me one day that he didn't think I was the one that he was going to end up with because he knew who he was going to end up with.
09:00:32.060 And I became obsessed.
09:00:32.980 I'm like clearly it's a woman at church that he thinks is better than me well he left this book
09:00:38.280 out one day and I opened it and it was all these letters to Alicia Keys telling him how he knows
09:00:43.920 that they share dreams together and they're meant to be together and how they communicate
09:00:47.380 and he she said something like an address in a song and he's like I'm gonna wait at that address
09:00:52.580 before you to show up and I was just like I didn't even know what to do it's actually worse
09:00:58.160 than finding out your man is cheating like I was being cheated on with an imagination it was really
09:01:02.940 weird okay all right um you know what i think my soulmate is also alicia keys so that's crazy that
09:01:11.200 that what a coincidence um it's almost like he's like into astrology or something yeah
09:01:16.280 you said you think you have a valuable perspective being 43 and looking about 10 to 15 years younger
09:01:24.160 than that yeah um 10 to 10 to 50 do you think that i look 25 i'll give you seven i'll give you
09:01:33.200 seven or eight years i'd place you 37 you know 37 black or crack so most people usually say that
09:01:39.580 they think i look like in my like 30 but about five years ago people used to say i look 25 so
09:01:45.920 i definitely have looked older but i think that i tend to attract younger people um i think because
09:01:52.100 you're looking for my age to be older that's why you're able to see that i am but generally if i
09:01:56.000 go places people do think i'm around like 27 28 years old um and i feel like it just it makes me
09:02:03.680 attract younger guys so you're a cougar and it also makes me attract some milf do you have kids
09:02:09.540 i have one i took some milf i also attract older men and when they sometimes the older men when
09:02:16.460 they find out my age they're less interested even though they thought i was younger once they hear
09:02:20.520 that i'm 43 their interest drops and that's when i realized that you know just my age makes me less
09:02:26.000 attractive even if i am more attractive like to certain people i'm not saying in general like my
09:02:31.080 value is different than they think so you said that uh you do not think body count matters even
09:02:38.700 though your body count is lower compared to most women your age did you say what it was or no no i
09:02:43.480 didn't say what it was i said that it was under 20 though and um for somebody who you know i i
09:02:48.320 first time i slept with anyone i was 15 years old so what is that now like 30 years right like i do
09:02:53.520 have a fairly low body count i don't even have a one per year number is it more than 10 or less
09:02:58.320 than 10 did you say that i'm trying to i'm just trying to remember it's it's more than less than
09:03:04.400 20 yes yes yes i'm a long-term relationship person okay uh let's see you like to talk about
09:03:14.360 dating over 40 you don't feel like you're less valuable because you're older but you do think
09:03:17.660 age alone can make another woman look more appealing on paper before someone even knows
09:03:21.580 either of us and also when old when men my age find out that i'm actually the same age as them
09:03:27.020 sometimes they seem less interested like it's like i say the age and they're like
09:03:30.780 um less valuable what would you be willing to say though that like say a guy who wants to have
09:03:44.880 kids, do you think as a woman ages, she would be deemed less valuable from like a mating perspective?
09:03:55.240 I think it depends on the man and what goes on in his family. Like I've had some men that were 0.59
09:04:02.480 like younger and maybe interested in having kids. They're like, well, you can have kids. I know
09:04:05.880 people in my family that have had children up until the age 50. But then I've also had other
09:04:11.400 men say like, wow, I wouldn't want to risk having a kid with an older woman because of the complications 0.96
09:04:16.280 that could come along with the child. So I've heard both. So I just think it's like what the 0.99
09:04:20.560 person experiences in their family. If you have a lot of women in your family that have children
09:04:24.580 at an older age, you're probably less worried about it. And of course, to be clear, women can 0.94
09:04:28.760 certainly be, uh, get pregnant into their forties. Um, the likelihood does decrease. There are some
09:04:35.260 higher increased risk of, uh, birth defects and look to be charitable. There is some reporting
09:04:39.880 that, you know, as a man ages, the sperm quality also decreases. So look, I'm not going to be
09:04:46.020 completely pick on women on that particular one. I would say though, that say, take a woman who's 0.97
09:04:52.220 50, for example, where the likelihood of pregnancy is exceptionally low. And here you may have a man
09:04:58.600 who does want to have children and it's like a hundred percent a necessity for him that he has
09:05:04.720 children you would have to agree with me that her value to him is essentially zero from a like
09:05:11.900 well hold on when we let me make something clear we're not talking about your in your value as a
09:05:19.580 human being we're not talking about your value inherently men and women whether they're 20
09:05:25.240 whether they're 40 whether they're 60 whether they're 70 at any age all people man women black
09:05:32.480 white everything we all have equal inherent value we have equal moral value when i use the term
09:05:39.820 value i'm using it from a dating lens so like i think all the women here would probably value
09:05:47.280 brad pitt at 25 more than me 0.99
09:05:53.740 Nah. 0.99
09:05:55.760 Elise, don't you fucking lie to me, Elise. 0.99
09:05:58.620 I'm not. 0.99
09:05:59.000 I do not like that.
09:06:01.140 Okay, fine.
09:06:01.760 45.
09:06:02.100 It's not my taste.
09:06:03.140 But Brad Pitt's not.
09:06:04.200 Oh, my God.
09:06:04.740 It's not.
09:06:05.280 I actually never liked Brad Pitt.
09:06:06.200 I'm straight, and I'm like, wait, what am I saying?
09:06:09.400 I'm not into Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth.
09:06:11.620 That's not my type.
09:06:12.520 Okay, but so whoever, I'm sure you could think, can you think of a guy who's more attractive
09:06:17.180 than me?
09:06:18.540 Yeah.
09:06:19.820 I thought you were going to be like, no, Brian, it's impossible.
09:06:21.860 You're the most attractive man I've ever seen.
09:06:24.220 It's just not my, I'm not into that look.
09:06:26.180 The Chris Hemsworth.
09:06:26.600 Okay, you like overweight podcasters, get it.
09:06:29.380 But I would say that I'm sure there's a guy that you could point to that is more attractive than me.
09:06:36.640 This man, in your eyes, would be more valuable to you than me.
09:06:41.600 Or a guy who has a better personality or is more wealthy or aligns with you better on values.
09:06:48.700 that man will be more valuable in that same way a guy who wants to have kids he's not going to
09:06:54.680 value a woman who's 50 totally fair if he wants to have like have kids with a woman that's not to 0.57
09:07:01.400 say that she's useless and she she has no value as a human it's just strictly about dating totally
09:07:08.440 then you just gotta date a guy who doesn't want kids yeah like for example big labia more value 0.99
09:07:14.660 Small labia less value 1.00
09:07:16.440 Big dick for some of you 1.00
09:07:18.700 Like appropriate 1.00
09:07:19.320 How about this
09:07:20.500 Appropriately
09:07:22.180 Well how about this 1.00
09:07:23.400 Appropriately sized penis over micro penis 1.00
09:07:26.220 Oh no micros 1.00
09:07:27.300 More valuable
09:07:28.420 The six incher is more valuable than the one incher
09:07:34.160 I mean
09:07:34.880 Is that a question
09:07:35.660 Is that a question or a statement
09:07:37.420 It's a fact 1.00
09:07:38.640 I don't know some women 1.00
09:07:42.920 maybe you might want the 1.00
09:07:44.920 one inch countdown. 1.00
09:07:47.200 They might like, they are girls 1.00
09:07:49.140 out there. I feel like you'd get down with a 1.00
09:07:50.840 never mind.
09:07:52.760 At some point we all have. 1.00
09:07:55.180 She wants seven inches.
09:07:56.740 For me I'm like between
09:07:57.940 five and six is fine.
09:08:02.500 Icklist.
09:08:05.380 Robin. Men who can't 1.00
09:08:07.000 drive. Men who do that little hand
09:08:09.060 wave shake. A man that goes like this?
09:08:11.000 Oh my god. Wait, do it again.
09:08:12.920 like for a greeting or goodbye to anybody like we argued about she and i argued about this like
09:08:20.840 the first minute we sat down wait uh scoot into the table a little bit we argued about this
09:08:25.400 because i was just like that don't matter come on it's very cringy if you see a guy do it if
09:08:30.960 you're on a date with some guy and like the waitress comes up and he goes wait you will want
09:08:34.840 to die like yeah i just didn't know what to do i was like oh my god i've never been embarrassed
09:08:38.680 and I like nerdy men I've never been so embarrassed by a guy and I just started looking at him and
09:08:43.300 doubting his manhood and he was like six seven and I was still like oh my god he shrunk he became
09:08:47.320 five two can I ask you two questions so okay I get the you're saying this wave here right
09:08:52.660 what about the um the like the the I don't know if there's a name for it the like
09:09:00.560 oh that's so it's not like a wave but it's like uh I like that that's appropriate that's okay
09:09:06.800 and what about like um in a car when like somebody lets you merge and you give them the like
09:09:13.740 i would like him more if he does that i think that's so sweet when you let somebody merge
09:09:17.960 and you do that yeah i think it's so cute it makes me happy oh okay all right so it's just the
09:09:23.180 it's really dorky it's like really dorky and i don't get embarrassed easily and i saw him do
09:09:28.060 and i was like oh my god like i feel given given your propensity for dating extremists you said 0.97
09:09:34.580 you dated like a black supremacist how would you feel if a guy threw up a roman
09:09:40.240 i'm sorry i'm so i don't know what that means what a roman salute 0.95
09:09:46.000 don't do it like don't do it oh my god absolutely not okay you dated an extremist before so yeah
09:09:55.660 yeah and it was it was really weird because it was um it was a whole different world
09:09:59.900 where I really got to see the racism towards Jewish people.
09:10:03.640 Like I had never been aware of it most of my life because, you know,
09:10:06.500 I'm black and I was aware of racism towards black and Spanish people,
09:10:10.140 but I wasn't really aware that Jewish people were treated badly.
09:10:14.020 And then when I got into that world, I was like, oh, my God.
09:10:17.100 Now I kind of understand what some of my Jewish friends are saying.
09:10:19.600 Chat, chat, knock it off, chat. 1.00
09:10:21.840 Sorry.
09:10:22.440 No, you're fine. 0.74
09:10:23.680 You say men who nag, men who are always negative. 0.80
09:10:27.740 That's an ick. 1.00
09:10:28.480 I think that's nagging, negative is fine. 0.85
09:10:30.960 Men who turn everything into a debate.
09:10:35.440 You, though.
09:10:39.420 I would never, like, I do this for work.
09:10:43.060 I'm a total sweetheart with my girlfriend.
09:10:45.380 I just want us to just lounge around and let me, I'm going to buy us food and we're going to watch Netflix and just have a nice time.
09:10:54.060 I don't want to have no heavy conversations.
09:10:56.000 i save my argumentation for whatever podcast you know so yeah well i mean it's different
09:11:03.400 because you're doing it on like a show on a platform but some men just like to argue with
09:11:07.600 women and sometimes i don't even know if they're even disagreeing because sometimes i'd be like
09:11:11.280 wait did you hear what i said and if it's a guy that i like i'll be like hey why don't we slow
09:11:15.580 down and then i'll repeat what i said if it's a guy i don't like that much i don't have patience
09:11:18.720 for it but yeah and so very often like i'll say hey slow down let's think about this and the guy
09:11:23.580 I'll be like, oh, that's what you said?
09:11:24.680 And I'm like, wow.
09:11:25.560 Like, why did you, you just wanted to argue with me.
09:11:27.300 I don't know what that was about.
09:11:28.360 So I think some men, that's like a version of flirting
09:11:31.240 where they're like, I'm just going to argue 0.99
09:11:32.640 with everything this woman says. 0.99
09:11:33.780 And I think it's weird. 0.82
09:11:34.680 Or childhood trauma, honestly.
09:11:37.540 Yeah, I mean, well, that's one facet
09:11:40.400 of why that could be.
09:11:41.640 Yeah, I just like to show off.
09:11:43.740 Also that.
09:11:44.520 Tilt your mic down if you can for me.
09:11:46.580 And maybe bring that microphone like directly center to you.
09:11:49.480 men who are performative about politics or social issues so like when you say performative do you
09:11:56.240 mean they're like fake they're not yeah yeah like if you if you have like a corporate job and you 0.98
09:12:01.360 say you hate capitalism because you're trying to sleep with like a liberal woman it's like shut up
09:12:05.660 no you don't like you work in finance like you don't hate capitalism no posters like they're oh 0.70
09:12:10.560 my god I hate stuff like that or like guys they'll be like oh I care so much about women's rights but
09:12:14.660 you found out they hit their girlfriend in the past got it like i feel like sometimes political
09:12:20.500 things are now way um what did the one comedian said he said uh political posts are men's version
09:12:26.020 of thirst traps so they put up these political posts to get interest of women and they don't
09:12:30.340 actually mean it okay got it uh there's this actually funny like always sunny in philadelphia
09:12:37.140 thing where i forgot his name but he's like sleeping with the liberal women and like just
09:12:42.260 agreeing with
09:12:44.040 I don't know if anybody
09:12:45.860 Brian from Family Guy
09:12:46.860 yeah men who care
09:12:50.160 more about looking like a good person
09:12:52.300 than actually being one valid
09:12:54.140 okay
09:12:54.740 sabby dabby oh I
09:12:57.760 I'm going to have to pull up your Instagram for some
09:13:00.240 reason I didn't copy everything here 0.97
09:13:01.480 oh I have a question for the two Christian 1.00
09:13:06.380 gals can women 1.00
09:13:08.180 be clergy
09:13:08.880 what do you mean by that
09:13:12.240 like priests can women be priests uh center your mic please did you want to go first yeah you go
09:13:19.380 first sabby dabby no no okay your thoughts um so just as i believe men should be a leader in a
09:13:32.100 relationship i do believe that they should also be leading a church a congregation um because
09:13:38.060 i believe that men have authority over a church and as a husband have authority over his wife
09:13:46.000 okay got it um okay going to sabreja you're talking one time a guy you were talking to
09:13:56.080 was also talking to three other women did you share this already you found out met up and then
09:14:01.000 surprised him now when you say though but like how long were you each talking to him for
09:14:06.360 mike mike mike mike mike mike for me i think i was talking to him for about a month
09:14:13.240 for the other girls longer uh well were you talking to um were you talking to
09:14:22.140 other men okay all right um your questions are do you sleep with someone on the first date
09:14:31.000 we sort of talked about that already but i mean you're waiting until marriage so i think i was
09:14:37.660 asking for the other people oh you want to you want a response from the women yeah first date
09:14:43.480 sleep with the guy no second date if he's chris hemsworth and chris hemsworth gets to have sex
09:14:50.300 right away i can't think of a worthy enough man to sleep on the first date i see okay um
09:14:57.120 got it got it got it you guys the rest of you the funny part is that in my job i do but outside
09:15:03.680 of my personal life no no way because i get paid so much that like it actually makes it impossible
09:15:10.280 for a guy to break that seal unless i really like you so okay it'll take a while i couldn't
09:15:15.280 have said it better myself i normally say no but be hypocritical because i did with my husband and 0.98
09:15:21.200 my boyfriend okay my vagina is reserved for true love what we'll get we'll come back to that we'll 0.97
09:15:33.500 come back to that okay thoughts robin um yes but i was planning on doing it for like six months it 0.96
09:15:39.300 was somebody i knew and i was like oh if we go out i'm gonna so i i feel like it was like kind of
09:15:45.320 something i wanted to happen it was maybe like a little fantasy because i had like a crush on this
09:15:49.340 person and i was like hoping that like it would happen and i was like i was about it i'm not
09:15:54.020 always about that life it did it did um it was a long time ago but it was it was like really
09:15:59.620 satisfying because sometimes like i have crushes secretly and i'll think about the person and never
09:16:04.560 turns out so this is like one of the times where i had a crush i don't like to make the first move
09:16:08.680 so it was one of the times where i had a crush and like the guy actually like came and initiated it
09:16:12.960 And it was awesome because I normally don't feel that free.
09:16:15.900 Okay.
09:16:17.840 Razel.
09:16:18.940 Oh, I'm waiting until marriage.
09:16:20.780 Waiting until marriage.
09:16:21.540 All right.
09:16:21.740 There it is, folks.
09:16:22.760 There it is.
09:16:23.680 Let's see.
09:16:24.520 Continuing on.
09:16:25.960 Razzie. 0.99
09:16:26.820 It's like Razel.
09:16:27.900 My name is Gazelle, but with an R.
09:16:30.240 Got it, got it, got it.
09:16:30.940 It's spelled the same way.
09:16:33.320 Gazebo?
09:16:34.380 Gazelle.
09:16:35.200 The animal. 0.77
09:16:35.660 Razeebo? 0.99
09:16:36.420 Never mind. 1.00
09:16:37.200 That's terrible.
09:16:39.300 Okay.
09:16:39.660 Does that make you feel like the relationship with them?
09:16:41.640 I have to.
09:16:42.060 i'm not going to be able to do all of these uh do you ever have moments where you wish you
09:16:45.460 weren't living the life you were living for the of women quick answer from any of you say that again
09:16:50.580 uh sabrasia sabrasia asks do you ever have moments where you wish you weren't living the
09:16:56.920 life you were living for the sex workers yeah yeah sometimes i do this podcast and i feel like
09:17:04.020 i shouldn't be living the life i'm living sometimes in some of these conversations you
09:17:09.500 You know, I sometimes think, you know what, let me just play video games on stream.
09:17:14.920 I'm sure you get tired of repeating the same tired tropes over and over.
09:17:19.980 I enjoy it.
09:17:20.760 Yeah, you do?
09:17:21.500 Well, I mean, I would say I enjoy it.
09:17:23.220 I enjoy the conversations, but sometimes people can sometimes be difficult.
09:17:27.140 Of course.
09:17:28.040 And sometimes I'm difficult.
09:17:29.020 Dealing with people, I mean, any kind of customer service.
09:17:31.840 Well, the other thing is I'm highly introverted.
09:17:35.140 Wow.
09:17:35.460 wow this is not the job honestly for a introverted person i would not have been able to tell i need
09:17:43.160 to like decompress for 24 hours after my podcast um okay let's see just because you have free time
09:17:49.860 doesn't mean you should try to be in a relationship uh people should work on inner healing um
09:17:56.380 let's see uh a lot of people just want sex or they just want to drink in chicago at least
09:18:03.540 and that's annoying because it wastes your time that's totally valid i'm uh dating frustration 0.94
09:18:09.580 man with the lack of ambition or purpose totally valid uh do you have an ick list saying you
09:18:23.720 believe in god but you don't read the bible or do anything i mean valid for a christian
09:18:27.420 uh a guy that always tries to show off always talks about the people he knows or says he has
09:18:32.880 all these things but he doesn't just to get you to like him so annoying like can we talk about
09:18:37.580 something interesting what do you want to talk about sabrasia sabrasia sabrasia the word asia
09:18:46.920 is in it so sub ah that's helpful sabray asia the brain i got it yeah yep sebring he's like
09:18:58.280 i can't remember that sebring asia okay uh okay what's an interesting that you wanted to talk
09:19:08.420 about um roman empire yeah how many times do you think about that a day uh you know my focus
09:19:16.380 typically isn't so much on the roman empire i primarily focus on more the greek empire think
09:19:22.660 of i think about the spartans a lot the athenians it occupies a lot of my time and so you're the
09:19:29.040 first you know i like the romans it's it's interesting but the greeks i find quite intriguing
09:19:34.220 now the romans had a bigger empire to be fair but um yeah nice yeah uh yeah anything else
09:19:45.420 I think I'm just curious about your line of work and does that have a toll on you do you ever have
09:19:54.340 fears or worries um maybe a guilt I know you said you're you don't have any shame and everything
09:20:01.680 like that but is there any negative feeling you feel or do you feel proud and all I mean
09:20:07.660 that all respectfully it's just you know just wondering um I actually don't have any shame in
09:20:15.100 my life I don't think I've ever felt a pang of it um but um my toll the like the toll that it does
09:20:21.620 take because it is a very intensive job emotionally and otherwise um you know you need to schedule
09:20:29.140 months off and so I just did that for myself and um that's like how to keep myself I'm just curious
09:20:35.820 What do you guys think about the fall of Byzantium?
09:20:39.380 Just curious.
09:20:40.400 Empires fall and rise.
09:20:41.540 Empires fall and rise.
09:20:42.220 Look at what we're going through now.
09:20:43.440 You think the United States is in the decline?
09:20:46.700 Well, yeah, I think we're going to.
09:20:49.000 You said it earlier.
09:20:50.840 The fall of the great American empire. 1.00
09:20:54.560 Fuck. 1.00
09:20:55.060 It's fucked up. 1.00
09:20:56.020 Okay, Rizal. 1.00
09:20:58.360 Here, you finish the finish. 0.81
09:21:01.560 I'll prompt it.
09:21:02.180 Before you were saved, you used to what?
09:21:09.000 I can't remember what I wrote.
09:21:10.500 Is it like my career?
09:21:12.680 Try again.
09:21:16.520 I honestly can't remember what I wrote.
09:21:19.120 You used to...
09:21:30.020 Sleep? 1.00
09:21:30.620 around a lot a lot that's what you wrote before you were saved yeah uh you heard every girl brag
09:21:41.720 about their sex life so you thought that's how you should live your life peer pressure uh after
09:21:46.880 finding jesus you don't want to date for fun you're dating to find your husband yeah amen you
09:21:52.780 also say why women shouldn't sleep with anyone and everyone and the importance of purity wait
09:21:58.020 Can I ask you two, how long have y'all been celibate? 0.88
09:22:03.000 Probably almost two years now.
09:22:08.580 About a year.
09:22:10.000 About a year.
09:22:10.740 Okay.
09:22:12.360 Icklist, men who lack chivalry.
09:22:14.540 Yep.
09:22:15.280 Okay.
09:22:15.880 Men who play too much video games, which you say, so you do full-time ministry.
09:22:21.120 And you said you use video games to tell people about Jesus.
09:22:25.600 Yeah.
09:22:25.740 and i used to be on a pro team um so that was my full-time career i was you know in
09:22:32.260 league i was or what what games um i was doing uh i was a part of juju smith schuster's team
09:22:38.720 um for what game for it was for numerous games so i was on their team as a creator
09:22:44.860 so like fortnight call of duty apex legends valerian variety variety yeah there you go 0.99
09:22:51.000 yeah uh okay um so men who play too much video games gives you the dick i think that's fine 0.99
09:22:56.640 stay-at-home dads who forced the mom to work ick yeah stay-at-home dads what if she's like 1.00
09:23:03.300 let me ask you a question let's say some beautiful billionaire woman with big labia dms me 1.00
09:23:09.660 oh my goodness and she's like look brian i'm so rich maybe billionaire is not fair let's say she
09:23:14.840 she she out earns me 10x right so she makes 10 million 20 wait hold on what would be let's just
09:23:22.620 say she makes 10 million i don't know if it's 10x or 5x or whatever but say she makes um 10 million
09:23:28.900 a year which is certainly much more than i make yeah i should just stay at home and take care of
09:23:34.080 the kids i mean i was giving the perspective of some the average person i don't know millionaires
09:23:41.320 or billionaires so like I think it is kind of valid let's say like I think that people have
09:23:46.960 a maximum potential yeah not look generally speaking like I think some people they're just
09:23:53.200 gonna probably like they're realistically speaking you know who knows sometimes you get lucky or
09:23:57.960 whatever yeah you look at a typical person like you're you're probably gonna be like okay your
09:24:02.300 maximum potential is like 80k a year 100k a year yeah I think if you happen to be involved with like
09:24:08.960 a woman where her maximum potential is like 20 20 mil a year 50 mil a year and like as a guy
09:24:16.580 realistically you're not going to make that much i do actually think there's a compelling argument
09:24:21.020 you stay home with the kids because that level of wealth generation is is so significant that
09:24:29.880 it's like okay go work for i mean if she wants she could retire early with that much i'd be like
09:24:34.480 I'm not going to slave away making a hundred thousand dollars when your, your ability is
09:24:39.740 20 mil and I'm say a hundred K. Right. I think it'd be stupid to be like, go make some money 0.97
09:24:45.340 for the family. I mean, at 20 mil. I definitely hear you on that. I just think that like a lot 0.98
09:24:53.120 of guys don't have that confidence and that sense of true, like secure masculinity that,
09:24:58.920 that they just can't handle that position because psychologically their ego can't handle it.
09:25:04.480 You have to be pretty confident in yourself to be like, you know what?
09:25:07.500 I see what I can do as a father and I feel like I'm going to do an incredible job and make these incredible human beings and raise them from birth and whatever.
09:25:14.780 And I'm also totally okay with my woman, like making a ton of money.
09:25:19.200 I feel like you're very strong so you can handle it.
09:25:22.460 But a lot of guys can't.
09:25:23.440 Right.
09:25:23.720 So I see how like there's definitely a man who would have an ego about it. 1.00
09:25:27.360 Now, to be clear, like I'm okay where the woman doesn't work at all and I take care of everything.
09:25:34.060 You're okay either way because you're confident in yourself. 0.97
09:25:36.960 You're secure.
09:25:37.760 So my perspective is mostly on the role naturally of men and women.
09:25:43.300 To me, it's not about money.
09:25:45.460 I want to naturally care for my children and be there for them.
09:25:49.700 Obviously, I don't have any children, but that's just what I imagine.
09:25:52.820 And that's what I feel encouraged to do.
09:25:54.860 Like us as women, and you guys may disagree with me or not, but like we are more caring naturally than a man is.
09:26:02.340 and I think either way, I think like I could be happy nurturing, raising children a hundred
09:26:07.600 percent. I meant full time nurturing is what I meant. I can take care of the kids, keep
09:26:10.940 the house clean. I'm not saying a man cannot do that. Cause my, I was raised by my dad
09:26:16.680 who, um, you know, yeah. So either way, either way. Yeah. But the perspective of it is, um,
09:26:23.700 just like the woman's role, I would feel more fulfilled, um, being a stay at home mom.
09:26:29.200 and to me, it's not about the money. If I had to step away from a million dollars a year and my
09:26:34.200 husband makes a hundred thousand, to me, I would appreciate more of the family dynamic, um, in
09:26:40.720 regard to raising the children and nurturing them. Um, so my, I guess my perspective is different
09:26:47.360 because to me, it's not about money. It's about, um, well, you're happiest. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't
09:26:54.260 necessarily. And I, I approach this from a purely pragmatic lens. So if the woman's earning
09:26:59.700 potential is 1 million and the man's earning potential is a hundred thousand, better she go 1.00
09:27:04.620 work for five years, make us five mil than me work for 50 years. Like that just makes way more sense
09:27:10.840 and she can continue working and we continue raking in generational wealth. But it's like, 0.98
09:27:16.320 I do think there's a pragmatic point where like, if you're say you're like the woman's in love with
09:27:22.760 you and you're going to make, you know, given what your expertise or whatever, 100K is your
09:27:30.060 cap and you're dating some like famous singer and she comes into like a fuck ton of money.
09:27:34.180 It's like, okay, go do that. Make a fuck ton of money for us. I'll put on the nipple thing 1.00
09:27:43.180 or whatever. And you know what I mean? And she can send me breast milk and shit. 0.71
09:27:47.600 Wait, what's the, who married Tay-Tay again? What's his name? The football player who 1.00
09:27:51.240 Married Tay-Tay? Tay-Tay who?
09:27:53.520 Taylor Swift.
09:27:54.820 Oh, Travis Kelsey. 0.99
09:27:57.520 Yeah, Travis Kelsey looks happy as fuck, bro. 0.99
09:28:00.180 Yeah. 0.99
09:28:00.840 But he's rich, too.
09:28:04.100 It's not about the money, then.
09:28:05.280 That's a bit different.
09:28:05.920 I mean, she's way richer than Travis.
09:28:08.940 But he's so rich that it kind of doesn't matter.
09:28:12.380 So, you know, law of diminishing returns, right?
09:28:15.180 Yeah.
09:28:15.880 Well, after a certain point, it's like...
09:28:17.460 It doesn't affect your lifestyle anymore.
09:28:19.220 believe it um also comes down to materialism i'm not a highly materialistic person so it's like
09:28:25.400 yeah if you want to have the lavish vacations and the nice cars and the nice house you generally
09:28:31.140 want to make more money um but for me i'm content with a good family home um that and then you know
09:28:38.980 i drive a honda crv 2012 and i've always said that even if i have money i really like my honda crv so
09:28:45.840 i'm probably gonna get another honda so yeah i think i respect your opinion and your perspective
09:28:50.800 and everyone else's i think just generally speaking for myself i would want to fall into that
09:28:55.760 role as a woman i would say it's like obvious it's probably more ideal like if it if it can
09:29:00.720 be the man who's making the mill and the woman's max earning capacity is a hundred thousand right
09:29:04.880 like that's probably better than the reverse right but i do think pragmatically speaking like
09:29:09.140 yeah if we were i do well but like it would be a different story i do well but if like some girl
09:29:14.060 who makes 50M a year.
09:29:16.860 And she's like,
09:29:17.880 I'm going to be like,
09:29:21.840 Daddy's home.
09:29:23.240 I'm retired.
09:29:25.920 Good times.
09:29:27.760 And I'll take care of the kids
09:29:29.140 and I'll take them to the beach 1.00
09:29:30.220 and surf and do all that shit. 0.99
09:29:31.820 So I'll be a good dad. 0.99
09:29:33.720 I can see that.
09:29:35.160 Yeah.
09:29:35.680 Strict, but fair.
09:29:37.440 Strict, but fair.
09:29:38.660 I think I'll be a good dad.
09:29:40.460 Let's see.
09:29:41.620 Kiana.
09:29:42.120 We got Kiana's notes here.
09:29:43.140 your first dating experience in college you were still a virgin at the time you once settled once
09:29:48.380 you were settled into your dorm you met up in person with a male classmate you chatted with
09:29:52.600 prior to starting the semester it stayed innocent cuddling kissing touching sleepover
09:29:56.820 you you got attached fast since he was the first person you liked after leaving home for school
09:30:02.940 then you got ghosted uh now can you clarify did you sleep with him or not not at all no i was 0.95
09:30:09.520 version at that point so i hadn't slept with him but you were basic kind of girlfriend boyfriend
09:30:14.140 maybe it felt like some kind of momentum going towards that okay uh you got ghosted you found
09:30:20.220 out through tagged facebook photos wow that he'd moved on to some popular wealthier girl 0.97
09:30:26.940 shit uh you were heartbroken uh and then you were petty about it tell us what you did 0.96
09:30:35.480 oh my lord so um yeah so my roommate and i we went to dollar tree and we were like what could 0.99
09:30:44.220 we possibly do to get back at this man for doing this to me and so we bought like some cheap wiring
09:30:50.040 it wasn't copper or anything just literally crappy wire and we got some hot dogs and we strung the
09:30:56.100 hot dogs and on the wire and we threw it across his windshield and um that was my revenge and
09:31:04.080 like all the raccoons and skunks ate off of it and was the car was the car damaged the car was
09:31:10.760 not damaged so wait wire on a hot dog hot dog on a wire it was dollar tree why not just like
09:31:19.920 i gotta get creative wait what what's the purpose of the wire though why not just because we were
09:31:28.200 i don't know we were 18 i don't know if we were to see the car there would be hot dogs on it with
09:31:35.940 wires sticking out you didn't scratch the car okay well they're attached to the car and it was
09:31:41.560 it was on the car's windshield oh would you like tie the wire up yeah oh okay um interesting
09:31:48.160 um now but so how long had you been seeing him oh it was like a month or two that we were talking
09:31:54.900 prior to schooling and then uh wait prior yeah so yeah i was i was given like a contact list of
09:32:03.320 local people to me before going off to this private two-year college and he was one of them
09:32:09.440 and so we talked for a few months before in person or was this it was all telephone text
09:32:16.260 facebook messenger but you said cuddling kissing touching oh no and then when we transitioned into
09:32:23.240 the dorms that's when we met up really in person and then so this in total you said a couple it was
09:32:29.960 like it felt like a couple months felt like a couple months one or two months i don't know
09:32:35.080 yeah something and when you say you got ghosted like he wouldn't return your texts or what what
09:32:39.780 did we like hi i'm approaching you at school you're not um responding to me things like that
09:32:46.020 did he try to have sex no never we never but so when you say ghosted like he like i felt he fell
09:32:53.040 off he fell off the face of the earth and then it was have you ever ghosted somebody of course yeah 0.74
09:32:58.180 okay um yeah yeah it sucks to be gusted yes it does not sure revenge is necessarily warranted
09:33:11.620 revenge with hot dogs but i mean think about the the level of revenge like that big
09:33:17.480 okay in your 20s you met someone platonically through okay cupid
09:33:25.100 uh who helped you move and eventually arranged for you to live in an upscale office
09:33:30.740 because they were commercial property men so you lived in like i lived in an office that's kind of
09:33:35.720 fun um uh one day while you were at yoga they texted that they left you a surprise
09:33:41.540 they had keys to the office so when you got back there was a carl lagerfeld
09:33:46.080 carl lagerfeld era chanel bucket bag i don't know like half those words yeah uh very creepy
09:33:53.100 but also very nice around that same time they leased a brand new sports car and told you it
09:33:57.820 was for you to use you never wanted or drove it and you continued driving a different brand of car 0.96
09:34:04.280 uh you kept the bag though damn where's all the girls trying to just here's a car here's a bag 1.00
09:34:12.780 Where's the girls, you know? 1.00
09:34:14.580 It would be so nice, so nice. 1.00
09:34:16.100 It was actually a female that gifted all of these things to me.
09:34:19.500 If you would believe it or not.
09:34:20.960 Oh, it was a woman?
09:34:21.760 It was a female, yes. 1.00
09:34:23.160 I've always wanted a sugar mama. 0.97
09:34:24.800 You know, it happens sometimes out of the blue, and you're like, whoa.
09:34:28.320 You've got to hit the right audience, hon.
09:34:30.280 Was she a bit older?
09:34:31.900 She was, yeah, probably five to ten years older.
09:34:35.240 I took some milk.
09:34:36.220 Oh, okay.
09:34:38.720 Let's see.
09:34:39.260 Your biggest complaint is that people aren't always straightforward about what they want.
09:34:42.780 You say dating works better when intentions are clear, clear communication.
09:34:50.120 Ooh, this is a question I have for you three.
09:34:53.300 Maybe a little bit, sorry, you're Kiana, you're Kaylee, sorry, sorry, sorry.
09:35:01.960 When it comes to dating, do you disclose, like how soon would you disclose
09:35:09.200 what you guys do for work?
09:35:11.920 Immediately.
09:35:12.280 date scooting to the table because because of what i learned on my episode last time remind me
09:35:20.320 because because um i didn't disclose it to that one guy and then you i gave you flack you gave
09:35:26.640 me a lot of flack and so then i went on a bunch of dates over the summer and i it was literally
09:35:31.480 first 10 minutes of every day that i told them oh okay and how how how many dates have you been on
09:35:38.720 would you say um like uh three the three for for the summer since i go since i went on the podcast
09:35:44.700 what was the reaction when you within the first 10 minutes you're like hey nice to meet you by
09:35:50.460 the way um the first guy had like a totally normal reaction as if i told him like i worked at the
09:35:55.600 post office or something but he ghosted me um the second guy um i included the story about what
09:36:02.980 happened in my show notes so i don't want to like spoil it i'll pull it up yeah um and then the
09:36:07.380 third guy also ghosted me um uh so that's what tatum thinks so you think you do disclose i just
09:36:14.920 disclosed now but but before you didn't but but in my in my story though yeah yeah i'll get to it
09:36:21.420 do you uh disclose immediately immediately no hesitation i don't care but you meet guys on
09:36:29.340 like dating apps yes i do yeah do you tell them before meeting though yes i do i say hey we really
09:36:34.020 have to talk about something before i even consider spending time with you yeah we have to
09:36:38.460 before meeting before even meeting up and then they're very actually pretty liberal they're
09:36:43.500 they've been pretty liberal and accepting of it okay if a woman before you even meet up says hey 1.00
09:36:49.660 we got to talk oh they love it she has a penis yes she is a brothel worker uh or she has herpes 0.99
09:36:59.380 or she wants money she wants to borrow she might want that as well oh by the way can you pay for 1.00
09:37:05.080 my kids take care or pay for the babysitter uh at least i don't date anymore i tried it in the
09:37:13.220 beginning because i was like let's see how it goes and it was terrible how about this when
09:37:17.920 you envision yourself one day dating though like you said you if some guys i think i'm gonna have
09:37:23.800 to see because the thing is that in our industry the guys who are interested in dating us either
09:37:29.540 want to smash for free because they want a professional experience or they want to steal
09:37:34.480 from us they're all our money or they want both and and they want they want to steal from you 1.00
09:37:39.220 they want to fuck you for free and they probably want to humiliate you and break you so it's better 0.99
09:37:43.700 just not to date that's why you get that's why you guys got some great prospects but it's really 0.99
09:37:50.400 yeah so when you ask me if i want to do something else like yeah i'd probably do wait that sounds
09:37:54.720 like all the women i know just kidding um just kidding just kidding uh i don't think i have it 1.00
09:37:59.720 quite as bad uh okay so they want to steal from you they want to break you or they want a free 0.99
09:38:05.540 fuck yeah well and all three sometimes oh my god all three well yeah they can um question i'm not 0.99
09:38:13.580 setting myself up let's say like a prey let's say you meet a great guy and i know you're not dating 0.99
09:38:20.200 now but you're like you know what i like this guy he likes me and you know we get along he's hot 0.98
09:38:27.640 yeah do you wait to have would you would you wait to have sex with him i mean i would i would have 0.98
09:38:39.220 to see how he felt about my job because i wouldn't have sex you know what i accepted 0.99
09:38:43.040 if he was being honest then i would wait to have sex with him because i liked him 0.97
09:38:48.460 the only time the only time i fuck a guy real fast is if i actually don't like him or he's paying me 0.99
09:38:53.460 a lot wait wait wait hold on because because i don't care i don't care if he hits and quits it 0.94
09:39:02.160 because i'm just bored and i'm having fun and goodbye you know wait i want to ask the other
09:39:07.240 women at the panel here and i know some of you maybe this is i don't know um once you're waiting 0.97
09:39:12.940 till marriage so i don't know if this is gonna apply maybe in the past in your past life before 0.94
09:39:17.680 jesus would you let the guy who's like cute but you don't see like a relationship with him but 0.91
09:39:27.180 he's like hot or whatever he's a fuck boy does he get um does he get to smash right away and then 0.97
09:39:35.160 the guy who you're like oh he'd be a good boyfriend do you make him wait in the past life 0.99
09:39:41.460 i get what you're saying has that ever been the case for you i've only dated two people
09:39:47.620 um did they have to wait yes they had to wait have you ever had you know a little casual encounter
09:39:54.480 with the little okay uh what about you uh not my case personally but i i get where she's coming 0.80
09:40:03.580 from like sometimes you just really want like the hookup you just really want to want to have sex
09:40:07.920 at that time you don't you don't actually like the guy so you don't worry about having your image 0.99
09:40:12.160 rude of having uh sex on the first day you just want to have the dick and just dip just like what 0.99
09:40:16.860 guys do all the time not my case personally but i know like i understand where she came from wait 0.99
09:40:21.700 so are you saying when you say not in your case you're saying i'm saying i don't have a few even
09:40:26.160 the boy you're saying you have had like one night stands or hooked up with a guy quick but of the 0.96
09:40:32.380 boyfriends you've had you also fucked them quick too no i didn't but that's because i don't need 1.00
09:40:37.880 i don't feel like i need the the dick don't need the dick yeah but wait hold on the boyfriends you 1.00
09:40:45.060 have had like the long term you they waited to have sex you waited to have sex is that correct 1.00
09:40:50.760 yes because i wanted to be in a relationship with them so i don't want to read my email oh okay so
09:40:54.620 well then this does apply um and then the you have also like met a guy out somewhere
09:41:00.940 and you've had sex quickly well i don't have that urge to have sex with a man but you but i can see 1.00
09:41:08.820 you don't have the urge i don't have you you have the urge to fuck women what about with women no 1.00
09:41:13.520 i'm saying like i don't have an urge to look at the man oh i really want to fuck but i don't want 1.00
09:41:17.460 to be in a relationship with them you know like i don't okay you know what i mean but 0.97
09:41:21.020 i don't see how people have it but um i think it's valid it's okay and so wait at least you
09:41:26.360 you were talking about this right this was your thing i did i tried it once i was like he's kind
09:41:29.920 of hot but i think he's kind of dumb so i'm not gonna date him let's see how it goes if i just
09:41:34.880 you know hit it and quit it and it was pretty mid overall you know seven six or six out of ten 0.92
09:41:41.360 can you remind me what you originally said there so it was like basically like for a boyfriend
09:41:45.660 If I really like a guy, I'm going to wait.
09:41:49.400 Brutal.
09:41:49.800 Okay.
09:41:50.400 Kiana, what about for you? 0.62
09:41:53.040 I'm a lady.
09:41:53.840 I would prefer much to wait. 0.98
09:41:56.520 But have you, civilian life, had sex with a man or some men quick? 0.96
09:42:03.500 Oh, yeah. 0.54
09:42:03.900 I was in my 20s at one point.
09:42:05.340 Yeah, definitely.
09:42:07.080 Tatum, what about you?
09:42:08.440 Well, obviously, that was like my main activity in my 20s. 0.98
09:42:12.660 But, okay, but in the summer, the summer, the whatever, I was like, oh, the whatever podcast said to, like, if you really like a guy, you should have sex with him, like, quickly. 0.95
09:42:23.220 Yep. 0.91
09:42:23.600 And so I was like, I was like, okay, I'm going to follow the advice.
09:42:27.060 And then, so I did that, and he was like, human being, such a nice boyfriend, I had sex with him on a second date, and he ghosted me.
09:42:34.740 Yeah, because you listened to him.
09:42:37.620 Don't follow the advice on those podcasts. 0.95
09:42:40.220 But he didn't ghost you because you had sex with him.
09:42:44.460 How do you know?
09:42:45.160 He just wasn't.
09:42:46.680 Hold on.
09:42:47.680 Look, here's my philosophy.
09:42:49.740 Most of them will.
09:42:51.640 I think if the guy likes the girl and then she has sex on the first, second, third date or whatever.
09:42:57.480 And then he doesn't see her again.
09:42:59.180 He was never that into you. 1.00
09:43:01.000 He just wanted pussy. 1.00
09:43:02.480 Whether you made him wait one date. 1.00
09:43:04.160 Why would you put yourself through that?
09:43:05.740 Five dates. 1.00
09:43:06.600 As a woman, why would you test that? 0.99
09:43:08.600 What do you mean test it? 0.52
09:43:09.480 Like, why would you allow yourself to, you know, hook up with a guy and then only for him to ghost you?
09:43:14.940 That's a bad experience.
09:43:15.940 It's better just not to do it at all. 0.99
09:43:17.080 Here's the contention is that if the woman's standard is I make all men I'm with wait this long, that's to some degree fair, right? 0.66
09:43:30.780 But when you tell the relationship-minded guy, you know what? 0.99
09:43:34.860 I think your boyfriend material material you don't get pussy even though your boyfriend material 1.00
09:43:41.920 now the guy who I don't who I claim to not care about who is a fuck boy a jerk an asshole who's 1.00
09:43:48.580 just cute hot whatever he gets pussy right away this is a really backwards incentive whereby 1.00
09:43:55.680 shouldn't you reward 0.99
09:43:59.180 the boyfriend quality guy
09:44:01.240 and not reward 1.00
09:44:02.840 the piece of shit 1.00
09:44:04.340 he was a jerk, he was an asshole 1.00
09:44:05.940 it's not about rewarding 1.00
09:44:08.140 it's about I'm getting something from this interaction
09:44:10.680 with this guy that I never want to see again
09:44:12.400 and his loss is that he doesn't get to know me better
09:44:14.660 whereas with the guy that I like
09:44:16.600 I'm going to sleep with him probably a lot
09:44:19.120 eventually
09:44:19.720 but the other guy still hit
09:44:22.040 I don't care what he got or what he didn't get
09:44:25.040 because i got what i wanted do you see my point so that situation is handled taking care of
09:44:29.140 appropriately but from the how about this let me let me perhaps uh can you open the door fully
09:44:34.700 tiffany open the door fully we're almost done i still got we still got your notes
09:44:41.180 jenene we got your tweets tiffany tell her about all the tweets we got from her yeah yeah uh we're
09:44:48.620 almost wrapped i think i can try to get through this in like 20 minutes hopefully i have a flight
09:44:52.480 same don't worry what what's that what 6 p.m 6 a.m oh you're good mine's at nine oh y'all good
09:44:59.300 y'all good no i'll wrap soon we're gonna wrap soon we're gonna wrap soon what time is it uh
09:45:03.940 it's like 9 p.m or some shit stop it's definitely it's definitely 9 p.m um wait so okay i'm gonna
09:45:12.480 try to blast through it as quick as possible just to wrap up on this i was gonna give this final 0.86
09:45:16.220 uh, component to the, the, say that, uh, say that, you know, say I tell you,
09:45:24.860 uh, you know what, Sabresia, I think you're the one. I want to marry you. I want to have kids
09:45:35.500 with you. I want you to be my long-term girlfriend. However, um, but then I say,
09:45:43.680 But because I view you in this way, because I want you to be my girlfriend, up until we're married, or up until we're more established in our relationship, I don't want to pay for dates.
09:45:58.080 We'll go 50-50.
09:45:59.260 I'm not going to get you gifts.
09:46:00.480 I'm not going to get you flowers.
09:46:01.680 I'm not going to take you on trips.
09:46:03.140 I'm not going to take you to dinner.
09:46:04.740 I'm not going to take you on picnics.
09:46:06.460 I'm not going to do any of these romantic overtures.
09:46:08.700 I'm not going to be chivalrous.
09:46:09.920 I'm not going to protect you.
09:46:11.100 i'm not going to any chivalry i'm not going to open the car door i'm not going to pick you up
09:46:17.440 you can take an uber i'm not going to do any of these things and you might be like well i like
09:46:22.880 this guy so maybe i'm okay with this but then you find out that the past 30 abg women i just 0.96
09:46:31.740 fucking ran through like ran through some abgs and some black nubian queens and i ran through 0.99
09:46:38.300 some hood rats too some hood rats i ran through some hood rats and i only had sex with them once 1.00
09:46:43.660 twice maybe three times all of those girls who i tell you they don't mean anything to me 1.00
09:46:49.240 bought them gifts bought them jewelry bought them flowers took them on dates paid for dinner paid 1.00
09:46:55.020 for everything paid for their rent took them on trips did i already say that boobs boobs you 0.93
09:47:01.520 bought them boobs is that what you also do i'm not a plastic sir i'm not a really big plastic 0.73
09:47:06.360 surgery fan sorry at least um but uh i'm sorry i'm autistic um 0.98
09:47:14.520 those heads lights are distracting which by the way that's those aren't your nips
09:47:23.220 those are those are not your nips they really are i've seen them i've seen them they're spectacular 0.96
09:47:29.480 i have like the most incredible like people are just like holy shit they're a little bit
09:47:33.820 come on that's that's not because it's because of the shirt like i can kind of adjust them 0.97
09:47:38.500 you can just they're perfect the nipples are real yeah they're very exquisite they're great
09:47:45.340 are plastic surgery yeah yeah okay because for maybe it was your shirt but they were a little
09:47:51.920 too i was like no it's because i was like squeezing them together and then just i was like no i
09:47:56.720 actually thought that they were like you put so they're real okay okay they're real they're real
09:48:00.700 oh my god why would i do that no i i don't know don't some women well you know some women will
09:48:06.200 wear um like a skim bra for it but like a fake nips oh yeah what what about you 1.00
09:48:12.180 that's a lot of effort to be weird you know that's a lot of effort to show up well some women 1.00
09:48:18.620 like you know but they wear the butt things and then they have also a lot of effort to show up 1.00
09:48:23.220 weird as fuck i guess i i don't know but okay thank you i i thought the entire time that you 0.99
09:48:28.220 had like fake nipple 0.99
09:48:30.160 that's just no I've got 0.81
09:48:31.440 that is a product though isn't it
09:48:33.620 like the fake it is a product but
09:48:36.120 where was I going with it
09:48:37.720 you were trying to propose to me
09:48:40.340 you're right 0.95
09:48:40.900 you're just saying that you gave all these girls
09:48:44.220 everything and you're
09:48:45.420 the whole point of it is
09:48:48.060 you take it slow
09:48:49.100 and I would be okay with that
09:48:52.120 if that was coming towards me if you 1.00
09:48:54.040 wanted to hit it and quit it with these girls and you spent 1.00
09:48:56.100 a ton of money on them and you didn't want to
09:48:58.080 spend money on me because you actually wanted to get to know me and you wanted to take it really
09:49:02.760 slow and like okay so we go on a date there's some hugging and kissing and like you know we
09:49:08.500 go have these on dinner fine and then the second date like um you know maybe there's a little bit
09:49:13.860 more intense making out and you know you buy me dessert or something that's fine I'm not asking
09:49:18.820 for a lot and I'm not trying to give a lot the whole point is to slow things down I've actually
09:49:23.340 had men say i want to take things slow like i was like kind of pushing it and they're like no i like
09:49:29.540 you i want to get to know you and if we start having sex it's gonna throw things into a momentum
09:49:35.280 they're intimidated by you a guy who who's like let's pump the brakes on sex he actually wants 0.99
09:49:41.400 you to get more invested either because the sex is is trash never been sorry i've had so many guys 0.98
09:49:49.940 I've had so many guys be like, I didn't know it was going to be the best I ever had. 0.99
09:49:53.220 You're saying the guys are trash and they're scared to do it. 0.95
09:49:55.860 It doesn't matter how bad they are in bed. 0.99
09:49:57.300 Well, she's so good.
09:49:58.280 She makes up for it. 0.90
09:49:58.980 Literally. 1.00
09:49:59.900 Literally.
09:50:00.620 I will fix everything.
09:50:02.120 I will carry both of us.
09:50:03.260 She carries.
09:50:03.580 I will carry both of us.
09:50:04.840 Don't worry.
09:50:05.220 She carries.
09:50:05.620 We got some tips.
09:50:07.720 You just got to, you know.
09:50:09.080 Anyways.
09:50:09.580 Well, let me ask you this, though. 0.69
09:50:10.800 The scenario I presented that I was describing where Sabresia here. 1.00
09:50:18.220 Right. 1.00
09:50:18.540 A lot of women won't be okay with it. 1.00
09:50:20.380 She's the one for me, but she doesn't get any of that. 1.00
09:50:23.000 But all the other girls that were just casual sex got all those benefits. 1.00
09:50:27.000 They say, you don't pay us to come, you pay us to leave. 1.00
09:50:29.820 So, yeah, you paid those girls to get out of your life.
09:50:34.440 Well, no, but you don't do chivalry. 0.99
09:50:36.000 For the girls, you're just fucking, you do the least effort. 1.00
09:50:38.360 You can do chivalry, too, because it'll make them better in bed. 0.99
09:50:41.600 No, you don't do effort.
09:50:42.560 No, it's completely backwards. 1.00
09:50:44.160 You don't do effort for the girl who's just sex. 0.98
09:50:46.960 I know a lot of guys who do because it makes the sex better, and then they discard you. 0.86
09:50:50.880 They lead you on.
09:50:51.800 They discard you because they want you to be in love because it makes the sex better.
09:50:54.680 But does that not sound somewhat backwards to you, what I was describing?
09:50:58.820 It's a bit complex, but you know what I mean?
09:51:01.920 Like, it doesn't make it non-functional, right?
09:51:04.940 Like, it can still work.
09:51:06.320 Yeah. 0.99
09:51:07.140 So, I guess, look, what I'm trying to say is I think when women say, you know what? 0.55
09:51:11.860 I see you as long-term potential.
09:51:13.680 I see you as husband material.
09:51:14.760 I see you boyfriend material.
09:51:16.960 uh you wait the other men could the other men just get to hit it's not about you wait it's like
09:51:22.800 let's take our time and get to know each other and develop a connection why not por qué no los dos
09:51:27.840 usually because a lot of guys i i've literally i don't i don't know i've just had guys be like i
09:51:35.240 want to get to know you i feel like it's more about your the girl's gonna be worried that her
09:51:40.760 she's gonna he's gonna think that she's easy uh as opposed to like the guy that he does she
09:51:46.720 doesn't give a shit about like he can think whatever he wants okay i just want to think 0.93
09:51:50.080 i think sorry go ahead yeah yeah well i think i think some men might think that but like let me 0.99
09:51:57.260 ask you this question like let's say the girl's a virgin i know this is crazy hypothetical and
09:52:01.880 she's so into you and you're so into her and you don't have reservations about like you don't have
09:52:07.160 reservations as the guy when it comes to waiting and you're like you know what i really like this 0.95
09:52:12.660 girl i think if a guy really likes a girl one he wants to have sex with her and then two if he
09:52:18.080 really likes her uh just because she has sex quickly isn't necessarily going to be a negative
09:52:24.080 that's not not necessarily he might think it well you don't sure he might think it
09:52:30.220 but i genuinely believe if the guy really likes you from the get-go 0.95
09:52:34.740 and you fuck quick like he he's gonna keep seeing you i've had i've had long relationships where we 0.96
09:52:44.340 hooked up the first time and we just stayed together because we both liked each other and 0.99
09:52:47.840 it worked out so it's possible but i think it's gotten really bad out there it is definitely
09:52:53.200 possible it's gotten bad i don't know that i could do that again i don't know even like let's
09:52:56.820 say i never had this job and i just stayed in my corporate jobs and i was like a normal girl that
09:53:00.980 never did sex work no only fans nothing i wouldn't risk it um i wouldn't risk losing a guy that i 0.99
09:53:07.640 liked because i hooked up with him and he judged me as a slut well how about this damned if you do 1.00
09:53:11.420 damned if you don't if i knew that a girl like previously had like a fuck buddy or casual sex 1.00
09:53:16.420 or one night stands or whatever and then she makes me wait for dates i'm actually like and we fuck 1.00
09:53:23.340 damned if you do damned if you don't i guess i'm less likely to want to continue seeing her if she 0.99
09:53:29.560 makes me wait i'm gonna be like you aren't giving me that same level that you gave to other men 0.99
09:53:36.460 and i feel like you you don't have that genuine desire for me like you had with other men and
09:53:43.240 i'm gonna think greater likelihood of infidelity she's she's not like she doesn't have that desire
09:53:49.460 for me in the same way that she had with other men so i don't know like but like in our line of
09:53:55.280 work we you know sometimes we do sleep with clients like immediately you know what i mean
09:54:00.620 and then it's like don't you want some semblance of like oh it's different with me i want to you
09:54:06.400 know it's going to be different with you because we're actually waiting with intention to do it
09:54:10.260 with you um i think you can develop like these things can develop concurrently so you can like 0.95
09:54:18.380 develop the the relationship and have sex with a woman early i would love to be able to sleep with
09:54:24.220 a guy where we both like each other i would love to be able to sleep with him right away i've just
09:54:28.280 learned through myself and all but so it's a manipulation you hold it back not because you
09:54:32.800 don't want to have sex because you actually like the guy that you want to preserve you want to
09:54:39.440 preserve create a connection but if a guy were to say for example like look here's my position
09:54:44.080 and he's honest and forthcoming he's like if i could believe him then yeah we'll smash the first
09:54:48.980 night if you believe him he's like listen i know every i'm not everything about you i know about
09:54:54.740 i know about you is like how do you know you can believe them do you see my sure because people
09:54:59.320 lie actually likes you is gonna beg you for not beg no no no not beg if she says no like it of
09:55:07.700 course it's no but it's not beg it's just like oh you don't want to have you you previously you 0.99
09:55:15.540 you fucked a guy three months ago first night oh to be fair i've done it once i did one night stand 0.86
09:55:22.120 once oh you want to wait three months with me it's like that's i like the yearning i like this 0.99
09:55:29.880 it's different because you're christian and you're waiting until marriage i wasn't always
09:55:34.160 like this it's crazy that i'm like this now and but i you're right it is crazy you need to become
09:55:40.800 a degenerate I'm just kidding no I mean I'm just like I think it's so good for me this path that
09:55:47.100 I'm on it's it's helped me and uh it's been good for me but I've been learning what slow love looks
09:55:53.440 like and yearning and I just can't wait for a man to actually cherish me and get to know me for me
09:56:00.460 and not just want to go straight to sleeping with you it's so rare finding someone who can look past
09:56:07.840 the physical intimacy um for like love and affection i feel like everyone just goes to
09:56:17.000 that first and when somebody really just cares about holding your hand or kissing your forehead
09:56:23.300 i mean i think that kind of love is just so precious yeah i think what we're trying to say 1.00
09:56:31.260 is so either you as a man you can either be the fuck buddy and fuck her once and then just leave 1.00
09:56:37.360 like get discarded or you can be the boyfriend and wait a little bit and get fucked 1.00
09:56:42.040 and then if you say that that's why you have no have boyfriend 0.99
09:56:48.680 you think the hookup is the reward and you can go that rude you can go like that's what i'm saying 0.98
09:56:57.260 why not both why not let's do away with the the games and all that shit it's all about games 0.98
09:57:04.700 because it's because the men don't play them yeah yeah you want you want you one day machiavelli 0.96
09:57:12.240 literally said don't not play games don't come into the arena okay i'm just saying that like
09:57:18.240 you can't come in and not play the game when everyone else is playing it because then you're
09:57:21.920 at a disadvantage yeah but ultimately though but hold on what y'all still get played anyways because
09:57:29.020 you wait till the third date oh my god i wait till the third date and then he cracks and then
09:57:33.020 he never calls you again anyway that never happened to me well you're special the funny
09:57:36.860 part is that i cracked the first time i met this one guy and we were together five years it worked
09:57:41.120 it worked all my long-term girlfriends it's like first second third but that's also because you're
09:57:46.460 the guy that you pick a girl that you're attracted to that you would also date because you can get
09:57:50.680 that level of girl a lot of guys can't get women so they will crack anything as fast as any 0.97
09:57:56.660 opportunity they get and they will run because they don't have the capacity to stick around
09:58:00.140 i mean that's fair but uh i don't know like and and like the scenarios where like the girl like
09:58:06.300 it's weights longer like those were it might not be necessary for someone like you but every guy
09:58:11.100 is different and it takes a little bit of time to figure out what's going on for us well regardless
09:58:14.960 of what's most effective i would still say from the male perspective it's a big l if you're dating
09:58:21.260 a girl and she's like your boyfriend material and then she makes you wait one month two months
09:58:25.360 three months or three dates four dates five days however long but then like she's done been cracked
09:58:30.120 out first time with like the last three dudes she was with i'm gonna think i'm just not doing it for
09:58:37.660 her don't you want me but what if it's like in my entire life which i'm you know a little bit older
09:58:42.800 than 27 but yeah no you're 27 for sure you got braces you know I got I tried it once I tried
09:58:51.980 a one-night stand once with a guy who was kind of hot and like I told you it was very mid because
09:58:56.760 I didn't have that connection with him and I was like I'm probably not going to do this again
09:59:00.240 because it felt like very okay you know I mean like it wasn't worth really going through all
09:59:04.660 that trouble yeah so after that I was like I'll just get to know them but then I got caught up
09:59:10.100 in this job and that was to add on to that i think one other component is it sort of doubly confuses
09:59:17.440 that the male mind when when it comes to your guys's line of work where there's absolutely 0.76
09:59:24.940 no qualms whatsoever about quick sex i actually legit wanted to date me not to get free sex and
09:59:32.520 use my body not to humble me and build his ego and not to steal my money but he actually wanted
09:59:38.560 to get to know me and like date me and care about me we can crack right away i just gotta know that
09:59:44.300 i'm not getting used and ghosted because she got used and ghosted do you see my point yeah yeah
09:59:48.380 it happens no it does happen and it obviously sucks um but i think tatum is saying you know
09:59:56.140 she despite her civilian life despite the pro-life she's what did you say waiting until 0.97
10:00:01.740 something love of your life no i actually don't work as a prostitute anymore after that experience
10:00:09.220 wait i don't know you work at the ranch don't you up until that experience a month ago i actually
10:00:14.980 made a decision to to stop i'm so proud of you i don't want to like make it like
10:00:21.420 what do you do you do of now is that correct i do it's all it's all solo you know nudity and
10:00:28.980 dancing and got it um sleeping around baby steps we'll get her baby steps
10:00:34.600 wait i have a question um what do you do when you meet a girl that has all the qualities that
10:00:50.120 you're looking for how do you treat her yeah how do what do you mean how do i you see somebody that
10:00:55.840 that is just wife material how do you pursue her what does that look like for you 1.00
10:01:01.040 how do you treat her
10:01:03.720 how do you i mean you treat her well i don't know have you ever met somebody like that or
10:01:11.420 have you just met girls that you'd be willing to date so okay you're making a differentiation
10:01:16.560 between like a girl you'd be willing to date for a period of time for more fun or like whoa this is
10:01:22.260 like, who is this person in love? Amazing. And maybe she's not your wife, but you know,
10:01:28.520 she's wife material. Do you deal with her differently? Um, you make her do chores and 0.98
10:01:35.140 ignore her for the most part. Yeah. I'm so romantic. I'm a romantic guy. So you make 0.98
10:01:41.420 them answer a hundred questions in order to get to that point. You make them do chores
10:01:48.960 and you ignore them and you make sure they come
10:01:50.940 like 10 times if you can but
10:01:52.580 that's pretty much it. That's what you do as a guy.
10:01:55.540 That's so hard.
10:01:56.460 It's a lot of effort.
10:01:58.340 That's very sad.
10:02:01.820 She's coming
10:02:02.540 10 times.
10:02:04.560 She's coming 10 times.
10:02:06.320 If all your intention for a relationship
10:02:08.520 is sex then maybe that might
10:02:10.500 be a perk. I can just get a toy 0.99
10:02:12.240 for 10 times. What do I need a man 0.99
10:02:14.500 and I have to do your chores? 1.00
10:02:16.360 Why don't you just make me come and do chores
10:02:18.100 ignore me come pay me at the ranch and i'll do it yeah i'm obviously rage baiting a little bit here
10:02:25.400 but um you're doing it very nicely thank you
10:02:28.220 me too yeah well it's all the girls got red carded out of here well she's still here but
10:02:37.360 she's she's been fair she's been fun um uh okay i want to try to blast through everything else
10:02:43.100 as quick as possible um there was the uh wait wait wait oh do you disclose right i want to
10:02:51.540 finish up that really quick um so okay you disclose right away disclose right away now
10:02:56.180 now but i don't know if it was you or um you you said you do it on the date or sorry who was that
10:03:03.560 i do it in advance of choosing to even meet up with you do it on on the date in person i feel
10:03:12.400 like tatum just to save yourself time just do it before going out because like say it's a like say
10:03:18.800 it's it is a deal breaker for a guy and i do think it is a deal it is going to be a deal breaker for
10:03:23.640 a lot of a lot of guys i do think just send the tag like send it as a text let them know soon
10:03:29.580 because do you want to get all dolled up and drive out to the date and then but can i say
10:03:36.440 so don't waste your time tatum no no so i text so i told this guy i met at the gym that oh i just
10:03:43.200 retired from you know prostitution a lovely three years of prostitution um and he was like i was he
10:03:50.800 was like overly enthusiastic and he was like oh my god like uh my last relationship ended because i
10:03:59.220 wasn't sexually satisfied this is perfect like you're gonna be the perfect person on the first
10:04:04.960 interaction he said yeah oh my god no we go to the same time and i was like that is not the right
10:04:09.140 vibe at all like glad you knew that i was turned off yeah from but he smokes a lot of weed and i
10:04:19.100 don't want to be in a relationship with someone who does any drugs or alcohol so that's why it
10:04:24.640 actually didn't work out but i was willing to kind of like work with them on that weird vibe
10:04:28.980 yeah
10:04:30.440 it's hard for me
10:04:43.520 it's dangerous for me to date
10:04:44.880 because of my podcast
10:04:46.780 yes of course
10:04:47.960 girls hey I got ops 1.00
10:04:50.420 some girl could be trying to do some crazy 1.00
10:04:52.620 she's infiltrating 1.00
10:04:54.820 some nice liberal girl 1.00
10:04:56.340 trying to infiltrate her 1.00
10:04:57.580 poisoning or some shit oh my gosh that's what they you really do they send assassins and shit 1.00
10:05:02.880 you know fuck i'm giving people ideas oh fuck okay be careful um all right i don't think any 1.00
10:05:07.740 of us are kiana your final note uh you believe in separate togetherness you like having your 1.00
10:05:13.040 own space um sleeping separately occasionally sleeping separately bed arrested people generally
10:05:18.320 communicate better you don't think discomfort automatically equals intimacy either uh if two
10:05:23.880 people want to sleep together great if one person needs their own bed that shouldn't automatically
10:05:30.680 be interpreted as rejection or lack of affection i actually agree with you uh i prefer i need my
10:05:37.020 alone time but even when it comes to the bedroom situation separate bedrooms i love my own space
10:05:43.940 are you kidding me 100 100 now i've encountered someone who are not particularly pleased with
10:05:49.880 this though i'm sure maybe you've encountered men too i mean it hasn't gotten to that point
10:05:54.940 where it's like a serious dating thing and it's like oh we're gonna not sleep together tonight
10:06:00.320 and i have my own bed and i'm on wing of the house or whatever have you but question for all 1.00
10:06:04.760 the women here would it be a deal breaker for you if a guy wanted to do separate bedrooms 1.00
10:06:12.000 or like um say he had a guest room and you're over and he's like he's like go sleep in the 1.00
10:06:19.340 says it better than that sleep in the he wants you to sleep in the bedroom guest room sorry
10:06:24.340 every night uh just when needed like all the time let's start with all the time i need a cuddle buddy
10:06:33.220 but you cuddle you cuddle and it's like oh okay we're getting sleepy separate yeah i need a cuddle
10:06:39.800 buddy but i think it would be nice to have my own room as well for when i want it thoughts i would
10:06:46.380 prefer a separate bedroom so myself too okay yeah yeah my my long-term relationship was like that
10:06:52.840 was great okay anyone else anyone else um sometimes if my man is wearing a big hoodie i want to get
10:06:59.060 into the hoodie with him i put my arms in the sleeves and my head out of the same part so i
10:07:03.220 absolutely do not want a separate bedroom like i do you like to be in his same clothes with him
10:07:07.860 do you date rappers from like the 2000s are people still wearing like giant oversized
10:07:14.420 no well i mean i'm like 112 pounds but like i can usually get in most people's hoodies like
10:07:19.360 some guys think it's weird like not everybody thinks it's funny somebody might laugh um okay
10:07:24.900 i appreciate the intimacy um that's something i would want in my partner but i would also want a
10:07:29.420 big enough bed for if we get too hot you know a little bit on the sides yeah i mean my philosophy
10:07:35.140 is i totally agree with you like the good sleep or whatever like you said discomfort on that you
10:07:40.340 don't think discomfort automatically equals intimacy and it's like i think that say say
10:07:46.700 one of the say the girl the woman she wants to sleep in the same bed right um and then the guy
10:07:56.200 he doesn't want to sleep in the same bed because he's like look sleeping and she sleeps fine next
10:08:01.380 to somebody the man does not sleep well sleeping next to somebody like if slight things wake him
10:08:08.220 up if he gets bumped or she snores or you know i mean snoring is one thing but even just sleeping
10:08:13.680 next to that person i think that the person i think sleep quality supersedes like two percent
10:08:21.720 extra supposed intimacy so i think the final say should go to the person who is like hey this
10:08:30.240 fucks my sleep up i think sleep more valuable than feels like little percent extra good you know
10:08:40.080 yeah and i think that it's like a matter of like um i like i wouldn't sacrifice my sleep for 0.55
10:08:45.420 anybody i'm sorry i don't care if i love you i just want that extra boost and energy to my day
10:08:52.000 and i can be a better partner for you got it okay we got tatum we got one uh one other print i think
10:08:58.240 we're done uh okay t-dog tatum uh you're super single you're celibate in your personal life
10:09:04.900 until further notice until you find your true love once you find true love you will officially
10:09:10.320 retire from prostitution yeah i but this was a while ago you said like a couple weeks ago
10:09:16.220 yeah now i change that low-key you preemptively feel like a born-again virgin low-key yeah
10:09:22.300 for your future husbands it's the spirit what was the body count again 300 yeah 330
10:09:30.160 it's like the spirit of it though the spirit of virginity yeah um you don't mean it literally
10:09:38.460 your husband your husband will be the meaning your husband will be the best you've ever had
10:09:43.120 yeah and i'll make that known to him wait hold on but be real you've had some experience civilian
10:09:49.340 and pro yeah because i think that's the insecurity what if what if a guy you date you like everything
10:09:56.760 else is good but he's not the best sex that's not my man but hold on it's plausible after you 0.98
10:10:05.100 fucked 300 plus men no that one of those dudes was really good that was my ex-husband 0.98
10:10:12.160 but like i wouldn't hold it against a woman like i wouldn't that wouldn't be my standard like well 0.99
10:10:19.140 you know if I had sex say I had sex hypothetically as a virgin with 300 women I wouldn't be like well 0.98
10:10:25.720 shit 301 gotta be the best I'd be like I'd give her a bit of leeway no it's it's really important 0.99
10:10:35.080 to me and I know that what if he's not the best though you'd break up yeah it's also something 1.00
10:10:41.080 that grows between you learn okay yeah uh you're a legal prostitute or so you when did you quit 0.91
10:10:47.300 a week ago uh i last time you saw a client last time i saw a client it was actually june and i 0.96
10:10:54.660 went back for my august tour or like it's called a tour when we go to the ranch and i was like oh
10:11:01.500 my god no i can't so you haven't done pro work since june yeah because i took july off to okay
10:11:08.240 yeah but you gave it up like a month ago basically yeah um okay now okay you write 1.00
10:11:15.020 you're a legal prostitute at a ranch however outside of work your vagina is what served for 1.00
10:11:23.960 true love i said that outside of so but it's at work wait question if you're dating a guy 0.99
10:11:30.440 i'm not working at the ranch anymore i thought i know the wording is kind of messed up no i 0.99
10:11:34.400 understand now but like when you originally said yeah yeah so your vagina is reserved for true love 1.00
10:11:38.800 Yeah. 1.00
10:11:39.500 Or 400 bucks.
10:11:41.580 No.
10:11:42.400 Well, however much it is, I don't know.
10:11:43.920 You didn't tell me.
10:11:44.660 No, but I'm not working in that industry.
10:11:47.620 No, but when you wrote this, I mean.
10:11:49.920 Oh.
10:11:50.220 Okay.
10:11:50.980 Yeah.
10:11:51.940 Okay.
10:11:52.980 July, a man you met on Bumble texted you romantic things every day for two weeks before you met.
10:11:57.020 He lived out of town.
10:11:58.340 First date, he told you he was excited to introduce you to friends.
10:12:01.060 And as his girlfriend, invited you to Italy with him.
10:12:05.240 You thought, wowee.
10:12:07.160 This guy must really like you.
10:12:08.520 10 minutes after he finally convinced you to have sex with him date number two he asked you to leave 0.99
10:12:14.200 and then quickly unmatched you on the app damn that's brutal in these days 0.99
10:12:20.400 maybe it was a labia thing though maybe he had maybe maybe these guys can be so not even that 0.99
10:12:27.380 bad no no yeah that's i'm gonna look that's pretty scumbag you know it's like there's so much 0.99
10:12:33.560 And he bread crumbed, he bread crumbed you with Italy. 1.00
10:12:36.360 What a bastard. 1.00
10:12:37.580 Yeah. 1.00
10:12:38.200 My go-to is Hawaii.
10:12:39.520 Yeah, that's cool too.
10:12:40.940 Italy.
10:12:41.680 I'm just kidding. 1.00
10:12:43.120 Yeah, keep it down saying you can.
10:12:47.300 You said, wait, you have a question for me.
10:12:50.840 Wouldn't it have saved him time to just see a sex worker? 0.97
10:12:54.060 He did two weeks of romantic admin for just a few minutes of sex. 0.98
10:12:59.200 Yeah. 0.83
10:12:59.480 A few minutes.
10:13:00.080 It was really bad, poor quality.
10:13:02.000 I kept saying, I'm not even into this.
10:13:04.680 And he was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:13:11.900 And you said this experience is why you're now fully celibate until you find true love.
10:13:16.280 Yeah.
10:13:17.120 Yeah, it really changed me.
10:13:18.960 True love. 0.98
10:13:21.360 If you come back on the show in six months and I find out you fucked a guy on the second date, we're going to have beef. 0.98
10:13:27.440 We're going to have beef, Tatum. 0.98
10:13:28.940 look uh yeah i think what he did we're gonna fish sauce tatum uh yes i mean i don't really
10:13:36.800 know you all that well tatum besides like you coming on the show you do seem like you know
10:13:40.540 besides the whole prostitution thing you do seem like a genuine sweet person um and so
10:13:45.940 my perspective would simply be from as you described it um this guy led you on he kind
10:13:54.100 of lied about his intentions that's wrong it's wrong to do um now was there anything like was
10:14:01.720 the because look i think i don't know if this is like benefit the doubt a little bit
10:14:07.380 maybe sometimes there's post not clarity i don't know i think he changed his whole personality
10:14:16.060 as soon as he came
10:14:18.200 he became mean
10:14:19.560 well not that
10:14:21.640 that's not right
10:14:23.700 like I feel like you gotta
10:14:25.700 only sleep with and deal 1.00
10:14:28.500 with women where when you nut 0.98
10:14:30.520 you still want to 0.98
10:14:32.500 be with her like you can't 1.00
10:14:34.460 deal you can't be dealing with women 1.00
10:14:36.580 where you're like oh no 1.00
10:14:38.620 what have I done
10:14:39.420 like you gotta 0.56
10:14:40.660 that's bad like so I don't know
10:14:43.920 I try, it's complicated, I don't know.
10:14:47.160 But can I take ownership for something in it?
10:14:51.120 You gave him a toothy BJ? 0.99
10:14:53.520 No, I didn't even give him a blowjob. 1.00
10:14:57.080 But when I saw his penis for the first time, I was like, he's circumcised, it's not going to work out. 1.00
10:15:04.420 But I still proceeded to... 0.99
10:15:07.760 Which gets us to our next point.
10:15:09.500 You say you have very strong opinions about male circumcision that you're happy to discuss.
10:15:13.580 so you prefer uncircumcised intact you prefer yes with the hood on you prefer yes uncircumcised
10:15:23.620 peen yes so when a client come do they get a discount no clients it's not the same no discount
10:15:30.500 you don't offer like a coupon they all wear condoms you you got well still i mean it's still
10:15:35.560 it's not it doesn't give me that uncircumcised experience well if i had to wear condom during 0.98
10:15:39.880 sex and like it would still be better if she had the big labia sorry okay anyway i don't know 0.99
10:15:47.300 whatever not that okay um you uh well there's more okay so just really quick why i don't i don't 0.99
10:15:56.760 think it matters why you prefer that but you well it sounds like you were checked out yourself
10:16:03.540 check because he had a he was circumcised i know but he did the op he was like oh you make
10:16:10.280 sense a nice boyfriend he says he loves me he said we had a was he from the middle east or
10:16:15.880 something he actually was oh okay uh you also we'll come back to that you say full service 0.98
10:16:21.880 s workers are god's little angels yeah god's angels yeah prostitutes the full service pro
10:16:31.320 yeah we are confronting humanity at their loneliest and and often like you know you
10:16:41.400 wrote uh the the full service sector workers you're carrying the weight of humanity and
10:16:46.920 healing people's hearts men are so lonely out there i think you would agree no lonely
10:16:56.120 i would definitely disagree well you know i almost feel maybe you guys if you know
10:17:04.580 maybe there should be some occasional pro bono work maybe some charity i'm just saying
10:17:09.780 what i'm just saying in some cases it might be considered charity with what we do yeah
10:17:17.740 well you you do it for free we're not we're not escorts okay so the guys who come to us
10:17:23.620 the guys who come to us they have a lot to lose they're scared they're not going to go risk
10:17:29.220 themselves so they're coming through the door they show their driver's license their security
10:17:32.940 cameras and their security guards and so why would they risk going into that environment because
10:17:37.540 they're more scared of the girls than we are of them so they're coming to us be and they're not 0.96
10:17:42.040 spending small money that a little bit this amount that's for sex what they spend on us is for
10:17:47.860 therapy because they got cheated on their wife passed away they're a virgin and they can't lose 0.63
10:17:53.020 of virginity no matter what they do like we're doing heavy therapy like they have schizophrenia
10:17:57.620 and they're scared and you have to hold them and tell them everything's going to be okay for hours 1.00
10:18:02.060 or you know they're disabled they're missing a limb and nobody wants to sleep with them or 1.00
10:18:06.520 that's literally what we're dealing with yes yes it's not like we're sleeping with all married 0.97
10:18:11.600 men all day long species than the streetwalker version but but she's saying that that full
10:18:17.420 service sex workers are god's little angels now i disagree i don't think you're you're god's angels
10:18:23.520 i didn't make that statement i didn't make that statement but we're kind of trying to back it
10:18:30.000 you are agents of satan also yes yeah well i would say tatum i would say to you god does not
10:18:40.660 want you doing sex work anymore i think i had three years of like i was led god doesn't want 0.95
10:18:49.540 any woman doing sex work you were not led don't believe that yeah that wasn't from god it says 0.94
10:18:54.740 that the devil's the greatest deceiver so you're a beautiful girl lovely but that wasn't from god 0.62
10:19:00.000 and he has a better purpose for you it's okay if you disagree is it still sex work if somebody 0.98
10:19:04.980 wants to like drink your urine but you don't get nude or sleep with them like it like what makes
10:19:09.840 there's sex work and then there's sex volunteers so that'd be yeah if you're being paid but like 0.99
10:19:16.540 if somebody paid you like a thousand dollars to drink like a cup of your page or is that sex
10:19:21.300 even if you don't get dressed like can you do it you don't have you don't have to be there's
10:19:26.240 no dress code well are they doing it for purposes of sexual gratification if yes and there's a 0.72
10:19:31.860 transaction of money sex work i would say that now like you could be like a prankster and like 0.98
10:19:39.200 go out go up to somebody and be like drink this urine and i'll give you 50 bucks that wouldn't be 0.71
10:19:45.580 sex work because i feel like the intention there is not for their sexual gratification but to do 0.99
10:19:50.180 like like fear factor right when they had to like eat horse balls or some shit like that's not yeah 0.99
10:19:58.300 that's not sex work what you saw on the beach also was not sex work by the way 0.98
10:20:03.720 just true true uh we do so we do change people's lives for the better we leave them better than
10:20:14.520 we found them the brothel workers are such a unique animal we really are it's so weird what 0.69
10:20:19.700 we do i know it sounds crazy and asinine but tatum your your of is popping off how much money
10:20:25.820 you're making that's fine random fun fact from tatum you'd never given the hand job before you 0.86
10:20:31.880 started working at the brothel three years ago can i be honest as a guy though yeah if like say 0.99
10:20:37.800 i'm dating a girl and she's just like oh um i'll she's like not down for anything else but she's 0.98
10:20:44.220 like i'll give you a hand job i would just be like nah bitch i'm good i'd be like i'd just be like 1.00
10:20:52.080 and i say bitch in like an endearing way you know um i wouldn't say bitch i never i don't 1.00
10:20:57.400 call women bitches I'm saying it I'm saying it as a joke but no I would say I'd be like can we 0.99
10:21:05.700 just not actually unappealing I'd rather not you know respectfully decline 0.99
10:21:12.700 I can do that I can well I can do that and it's just like 0.95
10:21:24.900 you know i want the i want the whole enchilada i don't want like just some fucking pico de gallo
10:21:34.420 on its own you know where's the rest of the taco yeah i don't know i just would if she's like if 0.95
10:21:43.280 that's it i'd just be like i've got somewhat some discipline here let's just let's just watch 0.82
10:21:49.060 breaking bad or some shit i'd be like nah just a hand a hand job a lot of you guys aren't even 0.99
10:21:56.040 good at the hand job i mean even you know you're going over the head like fucking hurting okay 0.99
10:22:01.540 what the fuck i'm sorry earmuffs earmuffs everybody earmuffs okay ick list four we're 1.00
10:22:09.960 almost at the end for you uh ick list oh no watches porn is an ick you make you make porn 1.00
10:22:19.040 No, I'm talking about like the man on woman. 1.00
10:22:23.660 Watching the sex. 0.60
10:22:25.440 So if a guy watches solo female content, okay. 0.96
10:22:30.740 Not if he's interested in... 0.82
10:22:33.040 But you said porn is when it's like hardcore porn.
10:22:36.320 When you're watching like hardcore porn. 1.00
10:22:38.260 No, but what if the guy is watching just like a girl spreading her giant pussy lips? 1.00
10:22:42.380 I think that's an education on female anatomy. 1.00
10:22:45.340 No, that's porn. 1.00
10:22:46.960 You're jerking me. 0.99
10:22:47.840 I'm, like, that's my own, like, different definition. 0.99
10:22:52.320 Okay, so you're fine with a guy who's watching solo porn content?
10:22:56.340 Ideally, they would be just into me.
10:22:59.280 Wait, but hold on.
10:23:00.560 Okay, it gives you an ache.
10:23:02.120 You're allowed to want that.
10:23:03.380 Yeah, thank you.
10:23:04.300 No, look, I agree with you.
10:23:06.420 I think it's okay for a girl to not want to date a guy who watches porn.
10:23:09.140 Totally think that's fine. 0.98
10:23:09.900 um you my confusion is you what literally are at least were a prostitute 0.99
10:23:18.780 but i feel like how are you gonna pearl clutch over a man who watches porn that's like it's not 0.99
10:23:26.760 that's like a heroin dealer someone who's shooting heroin being like you know what
10:23:31.380 i don't like people who smoke that's absolutely not what comparable how are you gonna how are
10:23:37.640 going to be shooting heroin telling me sorry it's not comparable like do you i've had so many
10:23:44.240 clients come and see me at the ranch who are addicted to porn yeah and can and are like trying 0.73
10:23:49.800 to not be and so i'm very like kind of anti but you're well you produce pornographic content
10:23:56.460 solo content though it may be you're somewhat contributing to the problem that you hope to
10:24:03.280 not encounter in a man. Can I ask the table here? What do you think it would be a bigger problem
10:24:09.560 in a relationship? And I'm granting that it is a problem for men to be watching porn,
10:24:14.900 or at least I think they shouldn't anyways. What is worse? What is a bigger problem in
10:24:20.220 a relationship? A man watching porn or a woman being a prostitute? Let's start with the pros. 0.99
10:24:28.520 um the thing is i i in my relationships i kind of like having porn parties where we watch porn 0.95
10:24:36.300 we watch porn together we have sex we do all the stuff and we have a great time you don't care 0.98
10:24:40.720 got it um what do you think into the mic yes that's right well how about this um i get that 0.99
10:24:46.400 you're fine like with watching porn or whatever but what do you think is or could be a bigger 0.95
10:24:53.200 problem that someone being a prostitute the reason i don't even date is because i don't want to put 0.95
10:24:58.040 a dude through that i don't want to put a guy through the fact that he has to date uh me that
10:25:02.780 i'm doing sex work i feel like that might be an issue for it's very altruistic of you at least
10:25:07.900 it's not altruism it's just i'm swerving some fair enough uh what's a bigger deal porn consumption
10:25:13.920 or being a prostitute i think they're both not the healthiest and that's my answer so but hold on
10:25:21.180 Sabresia 1.00
10:25:23.040 I agree with you that they're both bad
10:25:26.640 which one's worse
10:25:29.160 I think they're both 0.95
10:25:32.540 wicked 0.93
10:25:33.420 okay yes they're both wicked 0.99
10:25:36.280 which one's more wicked
10:25:37.500 I think they're just
10:25:39.460 I don't think God wants either of them
10:25:41.640 and I can't
10:25:42.920 they're just not good both
10:25:44.040 both are not going to bring it closer to
10:25:48.420 okay I'll come back to you
10:25:49.180 what do you think 1.00
10:25:49.800 woman being prostitute what do you think woman being prostitute there we go we got it we got 0.92
10:25:56.300 something there what's worse so i mean what's a bigger problem i think you're comparing apples 0.99
10:26:00.840 to oranges here it's like so like yeah they're different a woman literally being a prostitute 0.69
10:26:06.280 and then a man passively watching porn is what you're comparing yes a man watching porn that's
10:26:12.220 two different like you're right it is two different things which one's worse worse to the
10:26:17.600 Like, for example, I think that stabbing someone once isn't as bad as stabbing somebody 30 times. 0.77
10:26:29.940 I think it was more difficult for my ex-husband to deal with the fact that I was a prostitute rather than if he just watched a single porn video. 0.84
10:26:40.520 Yeah, I mean, then you're putting yourself in the action of sleeping with people.
10:26:46.480 so prostitution is worse what do you think i'm losing using i'm using the law as my basis and
10:26:52.160 because prostitution is illegal in most states i'm going to say that that's worse
10:26:55.580 so you genuinely can't make like a prostitution but i don't like either well that's fine that's
10:27:02.820 fine to not like either but turn away from the sun but question for for the pros here um do you
10:27:10.060 so for you you say watches porn ick but would you be willing to acknowledge that like for a lot of 0.88
10:27:16.140 guys a woman who is or was a prostitute like that is going to be a deal breaker for a lot of them 0.92
10:27:21.760 or like otherwise i assume it i assume it i think it's so it's so difficult to accept and i don't
10:27:27.820 expect anyone to do it exactly i have this podcast that probably gives them some women
10:27:32.820 well certainly especially with some of my political takes but um hard out here in california you can't
10:27:41.300 be conservative okay you you know what i'm a can't be conservative you relate to us i am a 0.97
10:27:47.980 i'm a maverick i have forsaken like 80 of california pussy by being conservative it's 0.99
10:27:56.680 true it's so true like the liberal women like like like we're here like 1.00
10:28:01.660 no it's hard you know you can't be it's hard to be a conservative man who wants pussy 1.00
10:28:10.540 in california you know what i mean it's hard to be a a prostitute who wants like love like 1.00
10:28:15.760 they hate us because they ain't us yeah also true uh okay uh he circum if he circumcised 0.97
10:28:31.960 gives you the ick it's not their fault uh prefer you prefer circumcised men just like brian 0.92
10:28:39.360 prefers women with big labia hey fair's fair uh a circumcised man would have to really make up for 0.75
10:28:46.180 it in other ways in order to win you over which is what i say about any women yeah they got to 0.95
10:28:52.640 make up for it yeah yeah yeah of men american men the majority of american men are circumcised
10:29:01.340 so then are you typically like trying to find people that are not from this country or is it
10:29:05.060 hard no two of my three long-term relationships were with uncircumcised do you ask ahead of time
10:29:11.500 no i have to find out you just wait if it's a big deal to you you just got to be like
10:29:16.620 hey um are you are you um snip snapped or wait that's not it uh i don't know
10:29:22.900 says mean things um wait oh if he says mean thing uh whatever um wait does it give you the
10:29:32.960 don't worry we're almost done uh says mean things then is misgendering mean
10:29:37.580 misgendering yeah uh if it's intentional that would be like weird and uncool got it okay we
10:29:47.620 got j jj can you dab for do a dab nice you describe yourself as a baddie oh somewhere i
10:29:59.560 You also write in your bio 1.00
10:30:02.340 I'll rip your head off and eat it 1.00
10:30:04.000 and then there's a knife emoji and blood 1.00
10:30:06.000 emoji
10:30:06.680 You've been pretty nice tonight
10:30:10.060 I mean
10:30:10.380 I guess be aware
10:30:13.940 Is that a threat?
10:30:16.360 No
10:30:16.840 Okay, but what does that mean though?
10:30:20.960 It's just my toxic side
10:30:22.200 coming through in my Instagram bio
10:30:23.580 Okay, we already talked
10:30:26.180 about you being legally married with a boyfriend 0.99
10:30:28.140 but you're separated from him your husband watched porn in bed with you because you weren't putting
10:30:33.320 out you're over the 50 50 relationship considering he couldn't take you on dates or buy you flowers
10:30:39.260 so you didn't want to give him sex and he started watching more porn at his parents house and one
10:30:45.160 morning you woke up and he was watching it while you were in bed next to him yeah so i stopped 0.55
10:30:50.860 sleeping and you stopped sleeping next to him after that that's awful 50 50 relationships in
10:30:56.980 your marriage you wanted to be in a 50 50 you wanted to be in a 50 50 relationship so no one
10:31:01.780 had control over you and then 50 50 financially is only half the battle you're still cooking and
10:31:07.260 cleaning more even though you're supplying 50 of finances you add a lot of resentment once you
10:31:12.920 bought a house together knowing you're providing way more you think men need to provide more even
10:31:17.400 when a woman can be providing more on her own but so hold on you're the one who pushed for 50 50
10:31:22.700 or wanted 50 50 um okay question in the early stages of dating was he paying for dates or was
10:31:31.220 it even 50 50 from the get-go 50 50 oh wow okay um all right um you're the biggest disagreement
10:31:38.700 is you see yourself as an alpha female who doesn't want kids yes but now it's a little
10:31:45.080 difficult now you want i'm with the traditional man wait so now you want kids or now you're not
10:31:50.480 not that i'm still an alpha female what's an alpha female am i an alpha female
10:31:56.740 are you do you identify as a female yes oh gosh i think that was the last trans lesbian i think
10:32:04.640 that was the last podcast african-american
10:32:07.780 you know about my african-american roots oh yeah i heard your smoke detector going off
10:32:15.960 your smoke alarm
10:32:16.740 or that beat
10:32:19.020 oh
10:32:20.840 it's a button
10:32:23.560 oh my gosh
10:32:25.720 I'm so used to it 1.00
10:32:27.340 so what is an alpha female
10:32:29.140 I specifically said that because of my 50-50
10:32:32.100 relationship besides the whole being a
10:32:33.820 brand winner I was providing him a lot of
10:32:35.900 peace making decisions for him bettering
10:32:37.840 his career so that's why I came
10:32:39.940 to that decision
10:32:41.020 you also write that
10:32:44.080 You're able to take care of yourself
10:32:47.880 Better without a man
10:32:48.860 You don't need a man 1.00
10:32:49.880 You just want one 1.00
10:32:51.880 Okay sure 1.00
10:32:53.940 You say women shouldn't feel the need to shave 1.00
10:32:56.860 Now do you mean 1.00
10:32:58.640 Body hair
10:33:00.020 Do you mean pubic area
10:33:01.340 All of the above
10:33:02.800 Okay so like you're fine
10:33:05.320 You don't have like a
10:33:07.080 Critique or issue with like underarms and legs
10:33:10.760 I don't care either way 1.00
10:33:12.520 But for the punani, you think women shouldn't feel the need to shave. 1.00
10:33:19.980 Now, do you still do it? 1.00
10:33:22.140 No, I don't do it.
10:33:22.860 You don't do it.
10:33:23.600 So you got a jungle right now. 1.00
10:33:25.440 That's why you're in leopard print or fucking animal print. 0.99
10:33:31.540 There's a jungle coming out. 0.99
10:33:34.300 Yeah, I just think health-wise, obviously, it's protection against bacteria.
10:33:37.660 but also dating wise i feel that men are more primal when women don't shave men are
10:33:44.240 that's um okay that's interesting the guys are like more i find it to be
10:33:51.440 you know um how do you get there sometimes sometimes it can block a little bit 0.99
10:33:58.740 and the man the penis just wants to go home the penis wants to go home it doesn't want to 1.00
10:34:05.520 tread through the jungle with a 1.00
10:34:07.740 fucking machete and... 1.00
10:34:09.600 Maybe yours does. 1.00
10:34:11.540 Who here 1.00
10:34:14.600 shaves 0.99
10:34:15.440 their nether
10:34:17.700 regions? 1.00
10:34:20.220 Bald 0.95
10:34:21.100 from... 0.99
10:34:23.180 Naturally. 1.00
10:34:24.560 The perks of being an Asian woman. 1.00
10:34:28.800 Alright. 0.83
10:34:29.120 I look like a 12-year-old...
10:34:30.800 Wait, are those good? 0.85
10:34:33.800 she's eating my banana question for you on this um do you think men that prefer a woman to shave 0.98
10:34:43.900 down there do you think so i've heard some women argue this is pdf file pdf file well the argument
10:34:55.120 is basically like okay guys who um guys who like it bear who who want a woman who's like shaves
10:35:04.440 down there they're gonna be like well that's what a child looks like is that your position
10:35:09.260 oh no i of course i don't think women i don't think women who do that i i and i certainly don't
10:35:15.060 fault men who have a like preference when it comes to pubic hair but oh i see what you're saying
10:35:20.340 where do you land people will say that's more of like a youthful look and then that's why they
10:35:25.360 would prefer a shape look but i mean i don't necessarily see it as that i've just particularly
10:35:30.940 seen especially like men my age or older prefer like something that's just more jungle in my
10:35:37.720 experience the bush they they don't admit it at first until they see it and then they're just like
10:35:44.140 yes this is what i prefer i'm not a fan to be honest i've never been a fan of the bush
10:35:48.840 even going back some guys don't even going back to when i um
10:35:54.020 barack obama 2008 did i have sex during the bush administration i did
10:36:03.160 even during the bush even during the bush administration was never a fan of the bush
10:36:09.140 but i feel like the bush was like during the era of the bush i feel like i wasn't alive well i was
10:36:14.700 live but i wasn't i think the bush went away in the 90s i think you know 80s slow decline
10:36:23.340 but you don't just to be clear you don't think like guys who prefer
10:36:27.060 shaved trimmed whatever waxed whatever you don't think that that's like
10:36:32.700 indicative of predatoriness no okay that's fair um
10:36:37.320 what you you get the ick from alpha males yeah i mean alpha males don't get along
10:36:44.340 but we're trying to figure it out right now with my but you call yourself an alpha female
10:36:48.560 yeah but that's why i'm saying we don't get along like so you want like a submissive guy
10:36:54.160 um i mean my husband was very submissive and that didn't really necessarily work out and now
10:36:58.660 i'm with an alpha male and we're trying to balance it out a little bit better i'm just
10:37:01.840 confused because you're using the same descriptor alpha which gives you the ick to describe yourself
10:37:08.700 yeah i get what you're saying you're an alpha female i'm just saying we don't get along we're
10:37:13.020 very toxic to each other okay so you're you butt heads essentially um another dating perspective 0.96
10:37:19.160 your man can't have girls who are friends right that's can you can you have male friends no not
10:37:26.200 in my current relationship okay so you don't have a double standard no you can't have it okay that
10:37:31.320 i mean i guess that's fine um let's see we did did we do your notes
10:37:37.760 kaylee i think she was the beginning of it yeah she was like the first one of the first
10:37:43.920 yeah i think i did we we did your yeah yeah yeah we did some of it okay so we have your tweets and
10:37:50.640 then we're wrapped um we're gonna blast through these as quick as possible tiffany quick i already
10:37:56.040 saw one and i don't 2020 i was going rampant okay i'm ready to read wait who's down to take
10:38:02.140 our makeup off you down i need to take it on for a two dollar bill will you do it two dollar bill
10:38:08.440 do you know how much you do you know how much a two dollar bill is worth do you know how much
10:38:12.400 a two dollar bill is worth i'm wearing right now that's right that's the right answer you can't
10:38:17.820 like sell the makeup you're currently wearing so yeah but i put on my face it's worth it who's down
10:38:22.500 to take makeup anybody elise kiana you wish t-dog our dog everyone who follows me robin knows what
10:38:29.800 I look like without it.
10:38:31.000 You can just look
10:38:31.580 at the episode from me
10:38:32.620 if I wasn't wearing
10:38:33.320 any makeup.
10:38:34.380 I probably have
10:38:35.700 some Instagrams.
10:38:36.560 I'm not really
10:38:37.480 wearing anything,
10:38:38.420 but I don't want
10:38:39.840 those.
10:38:40.880 I just got lashes too.
10:38:42.100 You don't want
10:38:42.640 these on your face?
10:38:43.380 I intentionally bought
10:38:44.900 four different brands
10:38:46.000 of makeup removal 0.89
10:38:46.880 to overcome
10:38:48.200 this objection.
10:38:49.320 Thank you.
10:38:49.660 I look like a little kid
10:38:51.360 without makeup on.
10:38:53.720 I'm only wearing
10:38:54.580 a tinted...
10:38:55.700 I'm just kidding.
10:38:58.260 Our dirty jokes
10:38:59.260 are so dark.
10:38:59.800 are so bad. Let's read the 1.00
10:39:01.780 tweets. Okay, let me see my rampant
10:39:03.940 tweets. I love when my guy friend
10:39:05.820 tells me men are trash 0.98
10:39:07.760 in front of the guy who 1.00
10:39:09.660 likes him. So there's a gay dude who likes
10:39:11.840 him? What was I even saying?
10:39:13.980 I don't know. That's
10:39:14.980 I don't even remember
10:39:17.760 this. That's like deep in COVID. During COVID times?
10:39:20.060 Yeah, everyone lost their mind.
10:39:22.120 It's okay.
10:39:22.920 We don't fault you for it.
10:39:24.660 Smooth brain era. 0.82
10:39:27.280 Sneaky.
10:39:27.800 I want to see all your beautiful
10:39:30.920 bare faces
10:39:32.040 I think the majority of us are fours
10:39:34.660 I'm Asian, I'm going to turn 17
10:39:36.480 I literally look like a child 0.99
10:39:38.580 it's weird
10:39:39.040 I'm going to get acne
10:39:42.640 if I don't do it 1.00
10:39:43.180 Do you think men are trash? 1.00
10:39:45.080 No 1.00
10:39:45.560 You don't think men are trash? 1.00
10:39:48.140 Wait, question for all the women 1.00
10:39:49.640 going around the table 1.00
10:39:51.040 If you could snap your fingers
10:39:52.540 and all men disappeared 0.96
10:39:55.060 and assume you could reproduce 1.00
10:39:56.920 asexually like you laid eggs and shit like literal like eggs and like it didn't completely 0.99
10:40:05.000 collapse the entire infrastructure of you know the world um if you could snap your fingers and 1.00
10:40:10.840 get rid of all men would you do it whoa why the pause from the christian what the fuck 0.99
10:40:19.000 yikes okay who's gonna pay my bills oh okay that's a good answer you know what i was telling 1.00
10:40:25.080 heard the other day is that I wish I was a 0.89
10:40:27.000 gay, a man so I could be gay, because
10:40:28.960 I would like men in any gender. 0.91
10:40:31.640 Alright, that's all good.
10:40:32.840 Wait, can you, are you done with it?
10:40:35.020 Hold it up and spread it.
10:40:36.980 Let's see the damage. I already have on my Instagram bio
10:40:38.960 that I look like Chewbacca without makeup.
10:40:41.100 No, you don't.
10:40:41.560 You look the same.
10:40:43.580 Hey, JJ, Janayne.
10:40:46.020 Janayne, look,
10:40:47.440 we had our disagreements, we had our 1.00
10:40:49.280 disagreements, I might have called you retard 1.00
10:40:51.080 once or twice. Did I? 1.00
10:40:52.940 Wait, I just called her it now?
10:40:56.640 Yeah, for the first time.
10:40:58.320 Only in your
10:40:59.980 internal head voice.
10:41:03.000 Don't, as a toxic
10:41:04.520 I'm going to mansplain, don't
10:41:06.400 be so harsh on yourself.
10:41:08.620 Don't call yourself Chewbacca.
10:41:10.460 Look at his soft, cuddly sign.
10:41:12.500 Just because he's hanging out with a big teddy bear.
10:41:14.700 Look at that.
10:41:16.360 You are an 1.00
10:41:18.320 Aztec, Afro 1.00
10:41:20.680 Aztecian 0.99
10:41:21.920 warrior princess Chewbacca what the fuck come on step you know come on Chewbacca come on so that's 0.99
10:41:29.580 my new bio oh is it because of the bush okay never mind uh okay uh the tweets more to it 0.99
10:41:37.100 oh last of the tweets oh goodness tab over tab I hope these were all during COVID because I don't
10:41:43.440 even remember saying that read it okay I hate when men think they are a slick giving women a free pass
10:41:50.540 on other women you better be glad i'm straight because we don't even like your is ha okay um 0.92
10:41:58.380 all right i don't know what i was saying next just a soccer girlie about to slay these men on the
10:42:04.680 field oh yeah i i play um that's you what i play soccer against men so those are contact lenses
10:42:11.700 yeah scroll back up i normally used to wear contacts uh wait but beef so for real though 0.80
10:42:18.040 y'all got fucking demolished by the men just be honest not in soccer would you like to see my 0.91
10:42:24.200 clips go back to my instagram well what i have scored were you playing against 12 year old boys 0.99
10:42:28.760 or no she's a she's a taller she's a taller built woman like i'm very aggressive on the
10:42:34.320 compared to a dude that's probably shorter than her you know what i mean yeah i live in san 1.00
10:42:37.360 antonio yeah women like kids smoked when competing against men no because statistically women actually 1.00
10:42:45.000 have a closer uh lower body um strength than men they've they put the professional like olympic 0.99
10:42:53.100 level female squads up against 15 year old boys and the 15 year old boys smoke the women
10:43:01.360 in field hockey and water polo or like in soccer but i mean you would see this also in like other
10:43:10.520 sports too i mean i'm not surprised it's just physical oh i'm not surprised it's just physical 1.00
10:43:16.120 it's the build look it's women should have their own league and compete against other women but
10:43:22.520 for being honest those female soccer players do not do well against men who still crack well my 1.00
10:43:30.860 voice still cracks sometimes i was gonna say they don't do so great against kind of their voice are
10:43:34.680 still cracking okay whatever next oh i have more read it oh i was told by oh when is that 2022
10:43:43.860 i was told by an old white man that me being vegan is going to make my brain very small
10:43:48.740 that's real science y'all i've been cured of my veganism i don't know why okay old white man maybe
10:43:56.100 add that okay next okay if another man tells my man to not let me wear the pants i'm gonna chew
10:44:04.840 someone's peach out he loves a strong woman so f off i bring a lot to the table motivation
10:44:11.880 loyalty hardworking financial independence wisdom and shall i go on black queen the loyalty
10:44:17.780 yes you can bring that to the table motivation if you're like career motivated no hardworking
10:44:24.740 career nope financial independence nope wisdom could be some could be good but
10:44:34.460 okay whatever next i gotta blast through these uh read it 2013 i don't need a man to make me
10:44:43.040 i did a deep dive i thought twitter deleted this stuff i don't need a man to make me happy i just
10:44:50.400 look check out and move on no boyfriend needed hashtag miss independent i was single i was
10:44:55.400 single six years before i met my husband that's why now this is funny read this one now oh
10:45:01.060 i was wild when i was a teenager man i miss my relationship so freaking but don't lie
10:45:08.380 single life can be hard a little contradictory the two different tweets uh next i was a wild 1.00
10:45:14.020 teenager but it's hard both ways it's real read this one okay don't forget white feminists that 0.98
10:45:19.900 black and latino women often get left behind when it comes to feminism support feminism for all i 1.00
10:45:24.360 still actually kind of agree with that um intersectional feminism okay next oh uh okay
10:45:32.720 that's back to her okay close all that out we're gonna do our final segment which is the ai gender 0.85
10:45:37.480 swap you're just gonna tell me if you date the male version of you then we're wrapped this was
10:45:41.560 a long show i appreciate oh do you want to hold it up i do the male version of you she's holding
10:45:46.680 I appreciate you guys making until the end
10:45:51.240 this was a I don't know if this is our
10:45:53.340 longest episode ever
10:45:54.560 it's the best episode ever
10:45:57.540 it was long
10:45:59.340 please be nice in the clips
10:46:00.980 they'll be nice
10:46:01.880 Tiffany do you
10:46:05.380 have all those okay
10:46:07.260 so the question is you can
10:46:09.360 just give a quick yes or no answer
10:46:10.740 would you date the male version of you
10:46:13.180 oh
10:46:15.440 oh i would date let's go all right would you date date him cute girl
10:46:25.460 but what's his number though well let's assume he's just cute the right one is too hairy i would 0.98
10:46:32.160 date the right one if he shaved and then the middle one looks just gay i don't know it's the 0.95
10:46:36.100 hair okay all right wow okay i don't like the highlights that looks cute you don't like the 0.82
10:46:41.880 highlights i like the highlights he looks i'll do all three of them oh all three podcast the right 0.53
10:46:47.760 one uh next oh wow no no no he mogs he mogs i do not like it i do not like it that's
10:46:58.940 she does look pretty there he looks really pretty oh my god i like the girl version i'm not so much 0.74
10:47:03.860 like a beard i don't i don't like the two boys no all right i think he mogs her to be honest next
10:47:10.020 my cherry top's funny 0.94
10:47:12.380 you became a white guy 0.94
10:47:21.980 somehow
10:47:22.800 that's a white dude
10:47:25.940 who's like a softer
10:47:27.180 let's go
10:47:27.960 alright
10:47:29.480 so would you date him
10:47:31.280 okay next
10:47:33.280 I can arrange a little rendezvous
10:47:35.360 well
10:47:36.440 Very generous here
10:47:40.300 The AI was
10:47:41.340 The third incarnation
10:47:43.900 Is like actually kind of fine 1.00
10:47:45.600 He mogs
10:47:46.360 He's great, he's wonderful
10:47:47.860 Wait, wait, wait
10:47:52.080 Go back, Ed Sheeran
10:47:54.340 What, like who is that
10:47:55.800 I like being a ginger
10:47:58.420 I like being a ginger, that guy on the right
10:48:00.280 Is pretty cute
10:48:01.100 He's swine, he's cool
10:48:03.120 He can get it 0.64
10:48:04.900 Yeah, the dad vibe.
10:48:07.360 Dad vibes.
10:48:08.760 Portland dad vibe.
10:48:10.860 Let's do this.
10:48:13.520 Whoa.
10:48:14.200 What?
10:48:15.880 That is a white man. 0.54
10:48:16.500 I think we had a baby.
10:48:18.120 Our boys had babies, and there they are. 0.98
10:48:22.080 That is not even my race. 1.00
10:48:25.020 Well, there's white Mexicans. 0.96
10:48:27.960 Yes, but not, well, you're black, so Afro. 1.00
10:48:31.460 I think the beard is occluding a big portion of, you know, you can't see it. 1.00
10:48:35.260 Would you date them, though?
10:48:35.800 This is not my type.
10:48:37.160 Not your type?
10:48:37.720 Okay. 0.97
10:48:38.040 I would date all your men. 0.99
10:48:38.800 Black guys? 1.00
10:48:39.760 Oh.
10:48:40.640 Oh, I like Hispanics and Asians, specifically Filipinos. 1.00
10:48:45.520 Oh, okay.
10:48:46.880 Maybe she's got a brother.
10:48:49.200 Next.
10:48:51.540 Wow.
10:48:52.520 Tato.
10:48:53.840 Wow.
10:48:54.640 Okay.
10:48:55.340 Wait.
10:48:55.860 Oh, wait.
10:48:56.980 Wait. 1.00
10:48:58.200 Holy shit. 1.00
10:48:58.760 Wait. 1.00
10:48:59.560 I don't.
10:48:59.960 does that does that mean that yeah yeah the middle one's kind of cute
10:49:04.160 taking my breath away
10:49:07.200 i wouldn't date him tatum he's not your type it's okay
10:49:14.340 what if he's he just looks too much like your brother huh what if he's intact 0.50
10:49:20.080 um wait uh let me just actually if he was like super like nice and uncircumcised wait
10:49:27.400 that looks like um captain america yeah i was too critical of him at first i'm sorry 0.98
10:49:36.400 he looks like a tech girl next oh no oh dang okay fuck yeah i feel like my the male version 0.99
10:49:46.780 of me is a little gay i don't think he likes women but it's like a little not sex or something 0.99
10:49:52.540 I see what you're saying, but he is fine. 0.55
10:49:55.060 He is fine, though.
10:49:55.840 I feel like I would have a crush on him, and then I could be his beard, and then he'd be
10:50:00.660 like, I'm sorry, I'm actually really gay, and then I'd help him come out, and we'd be
10:50:03.340 best friends.
10:50:04.000 Wow, romantic.
10:50:05.620 Lavender love.
10:50:06.600 Lavender love. 0.96
10:50:08.560 Oh, I became white. 0.53
10:50:11.620 Would you date him? 0.68
10:50:13.020 Yeah, I would.
10:50:14.000 Okay. 1.00
10:50:14.540 He looks so Filipino in the middle. 1.00
10:50:16.020 I know. 1.00
10:50:16.460 He really does.
10:50:16.900 Yes, he really does. 1.00
10:50:17.160 Transitioning races here. 0.89
10:50:18.500 There you go. 0.98
10:50:19.500 Definitely race jumped at the end.
10:50:21.380 Oh, boy.
10:50:21.780 Here we go.
10:50:22.180 next oh oh is that good yeah yes and that looks like my ex
10:50:29.480 wow hi tyler he's gorgeous i like that's actually a pretty good gender swap yeah that's yeah that's
10:50:37.520 accurate that's the most accurate and you're all beautiful yeah look at that most accurate
10:50:41.540 yes you're very welcome would you date him yeah it looks like tyler i don't know
10:50:48.840 feels weird it's yeah she's like looking into your own eyes yeah uh all right next oh boy
10:50:56.980 oh boy my brother or something oh wow
10:51:01.340 brianna
10:51:04.360 brianna she's kind of brianna of tarthi though 1.00
10:51:11.060 that middle one got a shadow she likes burritos yeah that's always a plus look you know what i
10:51:17.680 can do better you probably can I think I can do better um all right uh we're gonna wrap this up
10:51:25.800 any final thoughts from anybody before I wrap this up um yeah I don't really know how to word
10:51:31.540 it I just know for you ladies and sex work I just think you guys have beautiful hearts and
10:51:37.740 it was really nice meeting each and every one of you thank you Brian for having us on
10:51:42.260 you're welcome um if you know if you ever struggle with feeling lonely or if you feel like there's
10:51:48.500 something else for you i just want to encourage you that you can find love and purpose in jesus
10:51:53.880 despite where you're at and what you're doing and even if you feel like you can't leave that yet
10:51:59.000 just know you can still turn to him and he can meet every one of your needs i know he's met mine
10:52:04.400 and he saved me from so much and i just wanted to share that and encourage y'all so thank you
10:52:10.800 thank you you have such a beautiful heart yes you're like yeah a really bright light yes i was
10:52:17.420 about to say the exact same thing yeah i wasn't even sure if you were real until until we got
10:52:22.920 into some of these conversations and you were standing up and saying what you really felt and
10:52:26.680 i was like she's she's not afraid to get into conflict and like contradict herself so that
10:52:31.780 means she's pretty authentic yes and you're you handle you handled everything really gracefully
10:52:35.900 so thank you yeah you're a very sweet soul this has been such a great experience thank you
10:52:40.920 her name is um kim jong eel okay thank you yeah thank you all right great and thanks chat
10:52:54.940 you guys have been great i was just gonna say thank you for creating a platform because i
10:52:58.800 what i see online is like there's always pushback against everybody's opinions and
10:53:03.620 what i appreciate even though like i don't agree with you know your guys's line of work but what
10:53:07.940 i appreciate is that we can sit around a table and talk about our opinions yeah well that's not
10:53:13.000 always like that so yeah yeah yeah so i think this is pretty healing too yes god's work brian
10:53:18.840 yes doing god's work and last week's panel was really phenomenal like i must say i've gained a
10:53:25.340 massive amount of respect for you and all those all those beautiful people on it so has anyone
10:53:30.240 ever prayed at your table oh my god can i can i set a prayer i would even love i'm not opposed
10:53:37.240 to it but how long would it take i can do a 10 second one that's fine yes okay father god i just
10:53:43.120 want to say thank you for this opportunity for us to just gather and talk about various topics i
10:53:49.140 just ask that you just continue to bless this platform and use it for your glory somehow
10:53:55.580 um you're able to do anything and just keep everyone safe that comes on and um yeah you
10:54:02.020 will be done even in this crazy topic table thank you for brian and for just for all of us and
10:54:09.540 yeah i don't know how to do this i'm sorry but amen amen
10:54:13.340 all right brother um let's go i want to say i want to say gg well played yeah to the panel
10:54:24.960 thank you guys for coming and it was a late show
10:54:26.980 I appreciate you guys making it very late show
10:54:28.840 appreciate you guys making it until the end here
10:54:31.200 you guys did make it
10:54:32.460 please leave a nice comment once the live
10:54:35.240 ends I read them positivity is nice
10:54:36.960 helps the algorithm thank you for tuning in tonight
10:54:39.100 to the viewers you could have been anywhere in the world
10:54:41.300 but you're here with me I appreciate that
10:54:43.160 thank you to everyone who super chats
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10:54:48.620 any girls who want to be on the show DM at whatever on Instagram
10:54:51.180 if you can make it to Santa Barbara and I do
10:54:53.120 want to do another thank you to the panel there's some heated moments uh tonight as is typically
10:54:58.580 usual i want to let all of you know um i don't hold any grudges i don't hold any um
10:55:05.700 there's no hard feelings on my part it's part of the show we have disagreements we have
10:55:11.320 uh sort of difficult oftentimes difficult conversations controversial conversations
10:55:17.720 whether i agreed with you or disagreed with you i appreciate all of you for taking the time
10:55:22.560 to be here with me tonight and um there's absolutely no bad blood or bad feelings towards
10:55:29.160 anybody again whether disagreed or not so thank you guys for coming you guys were very fun i thought
10:55:33.900 there's a bit of a quite a bit of tenseness at the beginning but i think it kind of got
10:55:39.360 there's a lot of levity there's a lot of levity and fun too so i appreciate y'all
10:55:44.540 for uh making a fun fun podcast can we shake on it shake on what that we're there's no animosity
10:55:51.700 we're good of course beautiful no yeah i don't i never have any bad like unless somebody really
10:55:58.980 does something and like try to fuck the show up or something um like if that girl flat she didn't
10:56:03.600 flash but if she did flash i'd probably feel the type of way about it but like just because i 0.98
10:56:09.200 disagree with someone on something i'm not i'm not like fuck that person i hope that like actually i 0.53
10:56:14.140 want to say this one thing uh i don't want to say who but last episode uh nah one of the the trans 0.98
10:56:24.880 women sent a nasty message to one of the other trans women and i just thought that was completely
10:56:30.500 inappropriate it's like yo you can disagree and but i don't know i never it's never i was gonna
10:56:37.360 say it's not that deep but that's kind of cringe but i don't know sorry i should
10:56:42.040 I genuinely don't have any hate
10:56:46.460 In my heart for anybody
10:56:47.600 Whether they're a sex worker 0.85
10:56:48.780 Whether they are feminist
10:56:51.020 Whether they're liberal
10:56:51.840 Or anything like that
10:56:53.060 Like I do want the best for everybody
10:56:54.440 So 07's in the chat guys
10:56:57.040 Good night guys
10:56:57.800 Long stream
10:56:58.740 Hope you guys enjoyed it
10:56:59.740 Next Sunday
10:57:00.640 Big show next Sunday
10:57:02.160 Good guests coming next Sunday
10:57:03.360 So I hope you guys have a good night
10:57:05.480 And we will see you next time
10:57:07.980 Good night guys
10:57:08.840 One sec
10:57:09.380 Let me
10:57:09.640 Toodles
10:57:11.060 Good night guys
10:57:11.980 It is.