Plus Size Model ONLY Dates Men Who Make $1,000,000+?! Andrew Wilson! Rachel Wilson CRASHES SHOW?! | Dating Talk #189
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In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we're joined by Lindsay and Shannon, two 20-somethings in their mid-twenties who are trying to figure out what it means to be a millennial in the 21st century.
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With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves,
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so please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation. Go ahead.
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Hello. My name is Shannon, and my age is 28. I'm originally from Los Angeles, California,
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and I currently live there now, and my occupation is that I'm self-employed. I run an influencer
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marketing agency along with a pet-sitting business, and I resell clothes. Got it. Yeah.
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And you, did you used to do adult content? In the past. In the past. Okay. And your agency,
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does it work with, is it like an OF agency or just content? No. They can have an, they can be OF
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creators, but it's not exclusively OF. No, it's for brand deals, actually. Okay. Yeah. Very cool.
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Very cool. Welcome. Welcome. What about you? I'm Lindsay. I am 20. I live in, uh, Venice. I'm from
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Manhattan Beach, and I'm a DJ, producer, and my parents give me money, so. Nice. What's your,
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what's your allowance then? That's the occupation. Uh, they pay my rent, plus send me whatever for
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whatever podcast name. Are they going to send a TTS in? They're sending. Paying my gas to get here,
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I'll tell you that. Um, so you're a DJ. Yes. Do you, uh. I'm learning. Learning. How to mix in things
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right now, but. Can you, like, air DJ? Show us a little air DJing. You know how there's, like,
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a little bit of that. Air guitar. So that's how you, like. Show us your air DJing. You scratch,
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you do a little, a little this, a little that, you know. Yeah. Mess around on the,
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the little controller. Okay. Yeah. Rock and roll. Nice. Yes. What about you? Hi, my name is Azaira.
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I am 20 years old. I am originally from LA and Louisiana, so I'm really the real LA. Right now,
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I live in Hollywood, California, and my occupation that I am working on is being a model, hopefully
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a runway model. All right. Welcome. What about you? Hi, I'm Abby. Um, I just moved here from
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Kansas a few months ago, and I now live in Ventura, California. Um, did have a job when
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I came out here. Now I'm currently seeking employment. Um, yeah. And so I'm really just
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having fun. Age? Um, I'm 27. 27. You said you had a job, but you no longer have a job.
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Yeah. I came out here, and, um, the employers were not very nice, and so I decided I needed to leave.
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Oh, so you, you were in Kansas, and you moved here because of the job? Yeah. What, what was the job?
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Um, you don't have to say the company, just what were you doing? It was just, uh, managing. I managed
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a store. Okay. Yeah, but my roommate also, uh, she's my best friend from high school, and so she
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already lived in Ventura, so I had, like, a nice, like, apartment already for me when I got out here.
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So you quit or you got? I quit. Fire. Um, I quit. Yeah. Okay. Uh, any school? Yeah. Um, I graduated
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in 2019 from Kansas University, KU. Where were you majoring? Uh, I was a photography major. Okay.
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Sorority? I didn't do sorority. Okay. Uh, any college for you? Yes. I went to Columbia College
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in Chicago. Shout out to Columbia College alumni, if you're watching. Shout out Columbia College
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alumni. Um, the two of you that might be watching. Uh, what did you study? I studied comedy writing
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in performance. Is that, that's a major? There it is. Yeah. It's very rare. More people have
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actually been on the show Survivor as contestants than have my degree. Wow. Yeah. Damn. That,
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you should put that on your resume. I, I'm self-employed. There you go. Uh, any school?
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Oh. Yeah. College. I, I did community college. Yeah? Yeah. College. Um, I attend University
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of the West. It's a private Buddhist university. Private Buddhist? Yes. Are you, are you Buddhist?
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No. Oh, okay. Uh, what are you studying there? Uh, I'm studying business administration of accounting.
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Okay. What about you? No, I didn't go to school. Oh, just your whole intro name, age, occupation,
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location. Hi, my name is. So I, I jumped around there a little bit, so I kind of threw you off.
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My name is Star. I'm 26. Um, born and raised in the Valley in LA and I'm a TikToker, YouTuber,
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Reseida? No, Silmar. Oh, okay. Um. Sorry, TikToker, singer? YouTuber, social media. Rock and roll.
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And how long have you been singing for? Um, my whole life. Whole life? Okay. Are you a soprano or?
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Or? I'm an alto. Alto. Can we, uh, hear something? I don't know. Not right now. No? Okay. On the spot.
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On the spot. Okay. All right. Uh, do you have like a new album coming out or anything like that? Or?
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Just a new song coming out next week. Okay. It's called NPC. NPC. Okay. Uh, is it about NPCs?
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Kind of. Okay. Cool. Very cool. What about you?
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Okay. My name is Mia Huffman. Um, I'm 22. I'm from LA. Content creator and student, so.
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Always from LA? I'm originally from Orange County, but I just say LA because this is where I live now.
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Gotcha. Gotcha. Morgan. Hi. I'm Morgan. I'm 18. I go to Santa Barbara City College,
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majoring in political science, and I'm from the Bay Area. All right.
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Hi. I'm Ava. I'm 24. Um, born and raised in Santa Barbara, and I graduated from UCSB this year.
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I know. Okay. Uh, cool, cool. So we're going to go around the table once more. What is everybody's
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current relationship status? So are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits,
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relationship, married, polycule, sex, cult, harem, whatever it may be? Uh, if you're single,
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how long have you been single? And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with
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you? I'm taken. I am in a committed relationship. All right. How long have you guys been dating?
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We've been dating almost six months. Okay. Longest relationship? About a year and a half,
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two years. Okay. I'll just say two years. And how did you meet this current, uh, person?
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Off of Bumble. Bumble. Okay. What? So on Bumble, the, at least I'm assuming when you met anyways,
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the woman has to send the first message. What was your opening line? So the woman, I don't,
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it's complicated on Bumble because I think that guys can message first based off something on your
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profile. So I don't remember messaging first. I don't remember something about it being Easter,
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but we're both Jewish. So, but he was still doing something for Easter, something like that.
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Oh yeah. I haven't been on that in two years or something. So maybe they changed it, but it was
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right before they kind of got low key canceled. Yeah. They changed it recently. Now they just opened
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it up. Anybody can message anybody basically. But apparently it was, it was too much of a burden
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for the women to message first, to send the first message. So they had to change it. They had to
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change it. That's what they reported. It was too much of a, it was too hard, too difficult for the
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ladies to send the first message. So I have sent a first message before, but I usually don't
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probably why they changed that shit. I guess. Um, so you guys met on the, on Bumble, been dating for
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six, six months. Very cool. What about you? I'm in the talking stage with like a few people.
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Okay. Um, my last actual relationship was maybe like broke up like eight months ago,
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nine. I don't remember. So you've been, I've been single for a minute. Yeah. And how long was the
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one that ended nine months ago? Like a year ish. And is that your longest relationship? No, I dated
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someone when I was like super young, like 14 for like four years on and off. Does that count?
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Panel? No, it was like four years though. It was like high school count. It was a lot of,
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it was a lot of cheating and this and that. So I, but it was like four years. So I was like,
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I guess. How many times did you cheat? It was 12. It started actually. Well, he cheated first.
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Oh, okay. So, so me cheating second doesn't really count as me cheating. How many times did he cheat on
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you first? Just once? A couple times? Uncountable. Uncountable. Uncountable. So like how many times
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did you cheat back? It was so nonchalant that I don't remember. You know, it like, it's so,
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I don't know. Oh, okay. Like a few times, like a few times, like nothing crazy. I was like 14,
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you know, I wasn't like. People are like cheating on each other at 14. Damn, that's crazy. It was a
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really bad relationship besides that. So you said it was, uh, that was the longest one. You said the
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four year one, but on and off, how many times was it, uh, on and off? Like four or five. Okay. And
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you went to treatment. He went to wilderness therapy, wilderness therapy. Yeah. So it was
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like a year break. Where did you go? Where did I go? I wasn't gone during that time. I went to rehab
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later on. Wait, how old were you when you went to rehab? 14. The first time, the first time. What the
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first, how many times have you been to rehab? Twice. No, no. Three, four, three times. I, well,
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I went to an intake for a fourth one, but I didn't end up going. I got out of it. Like
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I, I told, I'm like, I don't do any, I'm like, I didn't do anything like wrong. And, uh, it
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was school. The school told me I had to know that my school, so it wasn't on my record. Huh?
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Okay. And so, um, it was off, off and on for four years. How long were the, who, oh, who
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would end it? It would, it would be me, but it would also be like, I hate you. And
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like the texts, the calls, but the, I didn't know, I didn't know he was going to treatment
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the first time. It was just like a week later. I was, it was like, oh, he's in, he's in
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wilderness. And then I got a call a year later. Like I got a call a year later when he was
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leaving. He's like, I'm at the airport. I'm calling you on a pay phone.
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Hmm. Crazy. Um, and then when you guys were trying to get like back together, who would
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initiate that? You, him, I wanted drugs. So I'd go back to him. He had like, he had like
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drug, he was like friends with like all these, like, you know, crazy, like Compton people
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just like, like, like hood, like, like, um, gang members. So, so I was like, I want
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drugs. Excuse me. Okay. Yeah. No, no, it's, um, so you said you're currently in a couple
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talking stages. Yeah. Like talking is a little too far, but like, you know, like the, like,
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Hey, you up type of relationships. What do you mean by the hit you up type relationship?
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No, like the you up relationships. It's like 1am. I'm not doing anything.
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Oh, the you up, excuse me. Okay. Yes. Uh, who sends the you up message you or the guys
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or both? Me. You do it? It's girls and guys. Oh, you date both. Okay. You're, so you're bi.
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Yes. Okay. I suppose I should add orientation for you then. Um, I'm, I would say queer, but,
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but mostly just like bisexual. Pan or bi? I don't really take on pansexual. Okay. Are
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you bi or pan? Bi. Bi. Sorry. No, I didn't mean that. No, no, I didn't mean that shit either.
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I didn't mean it like that. Make the, you got your tongue tied and I was. Of course. That's
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why. Copying the tongue. Okay. Um, canceled. Uh, so. I'm done. Uh, uh, multiple. How many,
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so how many girls right now are in the picture for you? Three. People are watching this.
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So what? Oh, is it more than three or what? Is it more than three? No, I just don't want
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them to know that there's three. Oh yeah. Nobody watches the show. They're, they're probably.
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Well, that's how I met Lucy on hinge. So. And she said she's watching. So. Oh, okay. Um,
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so, and then how many guys? None really. There's one guy that, um, me and my friend were hooking
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up with and I met him from like a three, like this guy, like this girl, she's like, oh, I'm
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friends with this porn star. And then we had him over like, just like to hang out basically. Sure.
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He ended up like moving in with me and my roommate for a bit. He's at my house right now, but
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he does porn. He like, Oh, what? Yeah. He's a porn star. And he moved in. So he moved
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in with us and he was like hooking up with me and my friend, whatever. Like threesome?
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No, no, no, no. Separate. Wait, your friend lives, your friend lives with you. Yeah. So
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this guy is living rent free with you and fucking both of the housemates. He, he like, he yells
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at our scary neighbor, but now we're like super close friends to the point where we're not
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hooking up. I'm sorry. My neighbor threatened, because my neighbor threatened us and he's
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like the protector. Cause we live in, we live in Venice, but there's always like homeless
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and stuff. And I have like a tendency to move people in. I'm about to move by myself and
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I already have my ex moving in with me. I'm complicated. Sorry. No, it's okay. I'm taking
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up a lot of time. Oh no, it's, it's all good. We, we give people as much time as necessary.
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Uh, so, um, so porn star moves in with you. He's hooking up with you and your housemate
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separately. Yes. Okay. And then, so he's the only guy you're sort of dealing with right
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now. Yeah. But we're like, he's like one of my best friends. You guys are friends, right?
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Yeah. And then he has an apartment now. I see. But he's staying with me because I like
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him there. Yeah. And you guys have, uh, you're dating three women. I'm not dating. Yeah.
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Well, you're hooking up with three, right? So four currently, um, what's the biggest,
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your, your hypothetically, are these like side pieces or hypothetically? Yeah. In the
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video game. Hmm. Huh? Video game. It's like streamer, streamer lingo. Oh, like you're
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not actually doing it. It's in a video game. Okay. Like you want to like hurt somebody in
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a video game. Sure. You know, I don't know what that means, but yes, probably if you said
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it, it's correct. You can say either. Uh, wait. So in the three girls you're seeing, do you
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consider them, are they side hoes? There's no, is there, is there a main, there's no main
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ho. There's no main ho. I like some of them, but it's a secret who start watching. Is it
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Lucy? No, I, maybe. What you don't like, Lucy's watching right now. How are you going
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to throw her under the butt? You just said no. How are you going to throw Lucy under the
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butt? Lucy, you need to apologize to Lucy right now and to this camera. No, we're dating.
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Yeah, exactly. Um, so what's the biggest, what is the biggest the roster has ever been?
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The roster gets big, but the actual hanging out off dating apps is small. Does that make
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sense? No, no one else relates. Got it. Does that mean like you'll hook up infrequently?
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No, like we never actually met up cause I just like got, I get it. I get overwhelmed. Like
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the ADHD kicks in. But so like right now you have four on the roster. Three, four. Are you
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not counting the guy? Not really. No. But you guys are hooking up, right? Not as often.
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We hang out. He lives with you, right? We skateboard. Well, we, yeah, we. When's the
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last time you guys hooked up? Two weeks ago? Three weeks ago? We're not like, we're not
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like that, you know? It's like a friend thing. It's literally a friends with benefit thing.
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Like we'll kiss and stuff, but that's it. When's the last time you guys kissed? Like three
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days ago. Oh, okay. Uh, what's the biggest the roster's ever been then?
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Four, three. But the actual hangout, my body count's not that big. Oh, I wasn't asking
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that, but. No, I mean. If you want. What is it? No, I mean like if the roster was nine,
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like my body count didn't go up nine, if that makes sense. Oh. I'm like a one and done
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two type of person. Wait. Like we met at a club or this or that. Wait, you're, when
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you, you. Like a one night stand. One and done. Like a one night stand. Yeah, yeah. No,
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I know. But you said that if your roster is this much, it doesn't increase your body
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count, but you only hit it. Because I didn't, because I didn't like follow through. Like
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the, like the Instagram DMs are popping, but like the actual like execution is not there.
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Okay. That's fair. Yes, exactly. Okay. Uh, so you mentioned that you're mostly do one
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and dones, like one night stands. Yeah. I'll kick people out if it's weird though, too. I
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had to kick someone. Yeah. Any, yeah. Is it mostly like girls that you're hooking up
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with or? Yeah. Like which do you prefer, guys or girls? Girls. Okay. Guys are just
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for fun. And girls are for what? For fun, I guess, too. But like, I just get bored. Yeah,
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I get bored. She's funny. I get bored. I get bored. You get bored? Mm-hmm. What does that
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mean? Because I'm like, just like sitting around, I'm like, guys are so easy. You get,
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wait, uh, you get bored? Like I get, I just get bored. I'll be like, oh, I kind of want
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to hook up with a guy. Oh, I see. Because guys are so easy. Like they'll like, they're
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like, oh, I'll be there in 10 minutes. Like girls, they're like, oh, let me get my makeup
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up on all this bullshit. Yeah. Damn. It's true. Hmm. Interesting. And so, hmm. So I'm just
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processing. There's a lot of information coming at me. I'm trying to process. Uh, so, okay.
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Mostly. So what you said, guys are just for fun. Like, but like fun. Like I'm bored. Like
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they'll, but they're rare. They're rare. I'll put it that way. But like for a long-term
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serious relationship, it would have to be a girl. I don't think I'd date a guy as of
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right now. It would be a girl. I see. As of right now, I wouldn't date a guy, if that
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makes sense. Like no feelings. Okay. Yeah. We can definitely jump into more of that later
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on in the show. What about you? Right now, I am currently single. I wish I had a boyfriend.
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That would be so great. And, um, yeah. Okay. Longest relationship? Two to three years.
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How long have you been single? About two years. Now, last time you were on the show,
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you said that you were involved, sort of involved with this guy. You want to get back with him,
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but you kind of don't. And it's kind of toxic. Uh, have you been in contact with him since
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the last time you were on the show? No, I haven't. I've actually been doing really good. I think
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it's nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Question mark. None of that. But I think that
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since his birthday is coming up, I've been like really trying not to. Like I have to try hard
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to keep my self to myself. Interesting. Okay. Uh, so you said you've been, are you on dating
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apps at all? No, they're scary. You said you've been single for two years,
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but, uh, when is the last time you did see the toxic ex? Well, I don't know if he's the toxic
00:23:48.740
one, but when's the last time you saw the toxic relationship that is mostly 99% your fault,
00:23:55.080
but just kidding. Okay. Okay. Just kidding. But seriously. That was, yeah, it was, now I think
00:24:01.480
it's been two months. Two months. Nice. So in that time period, have there been any guys in the
00:24:05.600
picture? Um, recently an old guy tried to come back into my life. Like he's old as in his age
00:24:15.140
or like old as in you dated him a while ago. I actually met him on BLK. What was that? It's
00:24:24.340
a black dating app. You on that Desmond? Do you think I would do good on there? Can I join? Am I
00:24:33.460
allowed to join? Yeah. Low key. I seen a couple of people who wasn't black and I was like, okay,
00:24:38.220
you know what I'm saying? It's like the plus size one where like anyone can join, like looking for
00:24:45.120
like somebody plus size. They're just trying to promote black love, like so that we could kind
00:24:51.760
of feel like we can find someone that's the same race as us, but we still have the option for other
00:24:58.200
people. Would it be offensive if, if what, why did you say yeah before I even finish? You just know
00:25:06.800
what I'm going to say. Um, so would it be wrong, like to consider myself African American?
00:25:15.120
No, let me, let me explain. Hold on. Let me explain. So my dad was born in North Africa
00:25:22.540
and my mom was born in America. So if my dad was born in Africa and my mom was born in America,
00:25:29.600
technically I'm African American. I agree. Right? I agree. I agree. Technically. Right, Desmond?
00:25:36.940
Yeah. You're not black though. Of course. Yeah. But you can say. But I can say, can I say I'm African
00:25:43.340
American? If that's the case. I'm 0.3% African. Okay. I don't want to tell you yes and then
00:25:51.140
you go somewhere and then like. Where would I go? Where would I go? Don't you speak French?
00:25:57.460
Was it a Francophone country? Possibly. So then, yeah, I think you can say that you're African.
00:26:02.840
He was born in Africa. My dad was born in Africa. Yeah, and you can say it. Okay. Anyways. Uh, so
00:26:09.840
what about you? Relationship status? Um, I'm single. I've been single for four years now.
00:26:18.160
All right. Longest relationship? Year and a half. All right. Was that the one that ended
00:26:24.320
four years ago? No. The one that lasted a year and a half was in college. And then the one that
00:26:30.120
happened during COVID, that lasted like eight months. Gotcha. Uh, so in the four-year period,
00:26:35.380
have you been dating at all? Um, I've tried and then, um, I get into situationships and I didn't
00:26:43.220
like see them coming. I'm like, no, I don't want that. And then it just ends up being a situationship.
00:26:48.700
So what does that look like? Um, it looks like all the benefits of a relationship with none of the
00:26:56.940
like commitment or actual like labels. So like guys will like, they would like make me dinner
00:27:05.360
or something and I'd be like, oh, they really want to date me. Like they're doing like being
00:27:08.540
proactive and like planning things. And then, uh, they just be like, oh, like, I don't know if I'm
00:27:14.560
really ready to like take this anywhere. They just wanted to like keep it very surface level
00:27:19.540
and I never see it coming. Okay. And when's their most recent, uh, situationship? Um, that was like
00:27:28.660
a month ago, but that ended very quickly. So when did you move to California again? Uh, three months
00:27:35.240
ago. Okay. So you've been dating somewhat in like, I guess I can't even say it was dating. I was like
00:27:41.000
two dates and then I got, and then I was like, nevermind. Did you meet on a dating app?
00:27:45.120
No, we met in person. I prefer to meet in person. I deleted all my dating apps. Where did you guys
00:27:49.180
meet? Um, we met, uh, a bar. Okay. Gotcha. Is a bar, I wonder if like meeting at a bar,
00:27:57.200
is it better than a dating app or is it about the same? I prefer in person because I'm mostly like,
00:28:06.300
it needs to be like, I need to be like physically attracted to you. And then I need to like,
00:28:10.980
really kind of like know your, your vibe, um, off the bat. I feel like every time I look through
00:28:17.920
photos and, um, I just really like, I I'll X more than I ever like, like, so in person,
00:28:26.000
it's just a lot easier. Okay. And so you're not on dating apps. No, not any, any guys currently in
00:28:35.000
the picture right now? No, nothing. No, I'm honestly just going dormant at the moment. Like I'm looking
00:28:40.860
for love and then I'm like looking for it and just really odd ways. And then, um, yeah, I'm going
00:28:48.720
on like dating shows or stuff like that, but I'm honestly just like wanting to meet someone in
00:28:54.960
person. You said you were on Jubilee? Yeah. I recently did a video. What was the topic or
00:29:01.040
whatever? It hasn't come out yet. Um, it was two best friends, um, swiping on 50 women. And so like,
00:29:07.640
they swipe for each other and then it was like mini speed dates. Got it. Okay. Uh, so single for
00:29:13.440
four years, situationships, longest relationship, 1.5 years. Um, any differences when it comes to
00:29:21.180
dating here in California versus in Kansas or about the same? Um, I honestly left Kansas. Um,
00:29:28.460
I lived in, um, Kansas city for a while and I left, I'd been there for like years and hadn't found
00:29:35.000
anyone. And it's really hard to meet someone. Um, I don't know who actually wants a relationship
00:29:40.940
there. And I kind of am feeling like I moved here and it's the same. So it's okay though.
00:29:46.880
Is, uh, Kansas the South or is that? No, it's the Midwest. Midwest. Yeah. That's okay. I don't
00:29:54.560
know. Geography is not my strong suit. What about you? I'm single. All right. Single. How long
00:30:02.400
you've been single for? Um, technically a year, over a year, but I did fall in love a month ago,
00:30:10.180
a month ago or two months. Yeah. Longest relationship. Um, four years. Three and a half.
00:30:20.500
Oh, sorry. Okay. And you said you fell in love a month ago. What happened there?
00:30:25.580
Well, we didn't make it out the talking stage, but we fell in love. Um, he was a virgin and he was
00:30:32.800
super Christian and very sweet. And, but he wanted to marry a virgin because he made that
00:30:39.940
pact with him when he was a kid. So he couldn't get past that. Cause he made the pact with who?
00:30:44.200
Oh, with himself. Oh, okay. That he would stay a virgin and marry a virgin. And, um, I'm not a
00:30:50.580
virgin. So we love each other, but I respect that. That's what he wants to marry. Wait. So how long
00:30:58.220
were you guys, I guess, talking or dating? Um, like a month, but we were friends for a month and then
00:31:04.980
we were talking for a month and fell in love. Oh, you were friends first. Yeah. I see. Okay.
00:31:12.060
But I mean, like romantic love or like a friendship love? Romantic, but no sex.
00:31:22.340
But I mean, this whole virgin thing, Tim sounds like it was a pretty big deal, right?
00:31:26.400
Yeah. He couldn't get past it. Like he wanted to, but he was like, I, I just really, he was also 20.
00:31:31.340
So maybe it was like kind of an age thing that maybe he'll get over it.
00:31:35.060
And I'm kidding. Uh, so you're 26. He was 20. Yeah. Um, uh, of the guys you're interested
00:31:45.400
in, do you, do you like young guys or this kind of more of a fluke situation? Um, I used
00:31:51.620
to like older guys or guys my age, but recently they've been like 21, 20, and I don't know
00:31:56.920
why, but that's just what's been coming my way. And I'm like, okay, that's the vibe now.
00:32:02.680
There you go. So, uh, he wanted, I'm just confused why, if he was so set on this whole
00:32:10.040
virgin thing, it seems like he kind of perhaps led you on a little bit, a little bit like
00:32:16.700
unintentionally. He was like confused. Like it was like, it was complicated. Um, but it
00:32:24.300
was meant to happen. He got me closer to God. So. You said he's Christian. Do you know
00:32:30.320
what denomination he is? Protestant. I don't know. Just normal. Catholic. Okay. Christian.
00:32:37.180
Okay. Um, were you upset when he told you, he's like, I'm in love with you. And then, well,
00:32:43.740
you loved him too. And he's like, yeah, but you're not a virgin. Sorry. Sorry. Like was,
00:32:50.580
is that upsetting to hear? No, because he didn't want to say it. Like it was, he was
00:32:55.460
like crying saying it cause he didn't want to hurt my feelings. He's like, I don't want
00:32:59.080
to like, but I'm like, just say it. Like, just be honest. Like, it's not going to hurt
00:33:01.880
my feelings. I just want you to be honest. So that was just coming from his heart and
00:33:05.320
I was like sad, but he said it in such a gentle way that I knew it was just authentically how
00:33:11.900
he felt. Did you try to get him to have sex with you? Like when you guys were talking?
00:33:16.200
Oh no, I wouldn't. You didn't try. Yeah. I was just curious. No, no. Um, he was crying.
00:33:23.900
Yeah. Like we were crying. Like it was really sad. Who started crying first? I think he did.
00:33:30.820
And then he, so he started crying and then you started crying. Yeah. How, what was the
00:33:35.760
period of time you guys were both crying at the same time? We, we like, it was like 12 hours
00:33:42.300
in a car of us crying and making out and getting dinner and going to like a beautiful, like
00:33:48.660
scenery. Like we couldn't leave each other. So we were like crying, kissing, and then it's
00:33:54.120
like, Oh, it has to end. It was a whole thing. Is he gay? Am I wrong for asking that? But
00:34:03.300
like a 12 hour talking cry session? Sounds very feminine. There's not, if he's gay, that's
00:34:11.420
totally cool. I just feel like that guy on the bachelor that didn't have sex, the football
00:34:17.000
player. He's not, he's definitely not gay. He's just, he's an emotional young man. I don't
00:34:22.760
know if that's out of the pocket, but I'm not, it's not bad if he's gay. It's not bad if he's
00:34:27.860
gay. I'm just asking, like, I think he could be, could be, he could be gay? No. Maybe?
00:34:35.360
Nah. He had a lot of emotional intelligence for a young guy. Like you, I like, I like guys
00:34:40.900
like that. He's not gay. Did he know that you weren't a virgin before you guys were friends
00:34:47.920
or while you guys were friends? Yeah. So then why did he engage in a relationship with you
00:34:52.520
romantically if he knew that you weren't a virgin? Because he said he was trying to get
00:34:58.160
past it, but he couldn't. And I think that might have to do with his age. Like maybe it
00:35:03.140
is like a maturity thing that you can't get past. I've had sex before. I don't know. He
00:35:09.340
was a complicated person. I'm curious, was he, was it, he's allowed to kiss you? Did you
00:35:15.060
ever say that? Oh yeah, we would kiss. You were allowed to kiss. Okay. I'm not familiar
00:35:18.600
with Christianity. Like you're allowed to kiss. You just can't have sex. Well, it wasn't
00:35:23.540
even his faith. It was the fact that he made it as a commitment to himself. Because of his
00:35:28.440
faith. Yeah. Oh, because of his faith. That's, yeah, that's why I ask. I kind of get it because
00:35:33.180
I have an ex who, um, I don't think had ever slept with anyone, uh, before me. And it was
00:35:43.240
a big deal to him that I wasn't a virgin as well. Oh really? Yeah. But he was?
00:35:48.600
I mean, not after we had started dating, but afterwards he felt like it was, he, I feel
00:35:55.460
like he thought he was too inexperienced. Oh, okay. Yeah. But he was a virgin when I
00:36:00.860
met him. Oh, okay. Yeah. He cried for 12 hours? No, but I get the crying. I get the being
00:36:11.360
upset because he's like upset that I, I feel like the reason is cause like he wishes that
00:36:18.520
maybe you weren't avert or maybe he wishes that you were a virgin, but you weren't. And
00:36:22.460
he's like conflicted about his religious beliefs, but he like, if they're claiming they love each
00:36:28.420
other, they love each other. So if he's like in love with star, he's got a lot of conflicting
00:36:33.220
emotions with his faith and, and things like that. So I get it. Yeah. And he doesn't date
00:36:39.380
to date. He dates to marry. So he's like, if I were to date to date, I would love to date
00:36:43.320
you, but I just know like marriage wise, it's not what I'm looking for. And I think that's,
00:36:47.580
that's actually really responsible to cut it off there instead of going in it and being
00:36:52.120
like, oh wait, we're not going to get married probably. You know, I don't know.
00:36:56.800
Were you guys the same faith? Well, he got me, he got me closer to God. I was like, all
00:37:05.020
right. And then we had like a spiritual like whole thing. I'm not laughing at you. I just
00:37:12.220
feel like the pendulum, I don't know if the pendulum needs to swing back and I'm going to
00:37:16.980
probably get accused of toxic masculinity, but we need to teach men to like, you got to
00:37:23.140
fucking stifle that shit. First off, I wouldn't be inclined. Yeah. You got to push that shit.
00:37:30.480
You got to keep that shit bottled in. So like 10 years down the road, you have a massive aneurysm.
00:37:35.360
That's what being a man is on the brink of aneurysm. I like masculinity. There you go.
00:37:42.260
As somebody who's bi, if I want a guy, they have to be a guy. Otherwise I'd go with a girl. There
00:37:50.020
was this one guy. He was like a girl. I want a guy. Does that make sense? Bro. I like
00:37:59.760
masculinity. Like open the door for me. Bro, you can't cry. No, I'm saying I don't want the
00:38:05.540
crying. I don't want the crying. I bet someone will cry. I don't want it. I'm not just saying
00:38:08.280
the crying. I just think it's strange that like you knew, he knew for a month who you
00:38:13.480
were as a person, like you didn't meet that criteria. He engaged with you for another month
00:38:18.500
in addition to the friendship, knowing that maybe he was developing feelings from the
00:38:22.600
friendship, develop that for a further month as a romantic thing. You guys continued with
00:38:27.260
kissing and then he's against the virginity issue. It's just strange. It's just like,
00:38:31.640
you already knew this. Why did you engage? You knew that both feelings were going to get
00:38:34.300
involved. It's just weird. And she said he's dating to marry.
00:38:37.280
And he's dating to marry. It's like you purposefully knew that you weren't going to marry this person
00:38:41.960
and you wasted, not wasted, obviously the love and everything. I don't doubt that you
00:38:46.500
guys fell in love, but it's just kind of like, you knew the checklist was not going to get
00:38:50.320
checked off. So why did he do it? Not, not your fault. Just he knew that. It's kind of,
00:38:55.280
it's kind of a West side story. Yeah. I mean, I know why, like I understand it's because he
00:39:01.000
was trying to get past it, but couldn't. So he just had these conflicting feelings.
00:39:06.480
And was like, Oh, I can't. Sure. And it's, it's a little immature, but I respect if that's how he
00:39:14.680
feels. Okay. We'll come back to that in just a bit. Mia, we'll get your relationship status.
00:39:20.600
I'm single. All right. How long you've been single for? I've been single since January. I did a long
00:39:26.860
term relationship. So eight months, nine months? Eight, nine months. Yeah. All right. Longest relationship?
00:39:33.960
That was three years. Was that the one that ended eight months ago? Yeah. That was the longest and
00:39:39.140
yeah. So wait, weren't you on the show in like late 2023? No, I think I was on the show right
00:39:47.520
after the break. Well, no, you've been, no, you were on the show in 2023. Was I? I'm pretty sure.
00:39:53.560
I think. I think we communicated. But you said you were single.
00:39:58.280
We might've broken up at that time. Guys, find, find the clip. Find the clip. I mean,
00:40:03.420
we did. Was she actually in the, whatever. Um, I think we probably were on a breakup by that point.
00:40:08.660
Okay. Yeah. Uh, and then we've heard it from these two before. Uh, so going back to your thing,
00:40:14.100
uh, star, you said in your pre-show notes, last day to the Virgin that showed me the presence of God
00:40:19.120
while I was having paranormal slash supernatural experiences. Now I'm super spiritual religious
00:40:24.280
after that and celibate waiting for marriage. Yeah. And so, uh, you were having a paranormal
00:40:36.720
supernatural experience. What was that? Well, I moved into this, um, very beautiful house,
00:40:43.380
but it's just really old. And I was having paranormal activity there and like, it was really scary. Um,
00:40:53.940
but yeah, so he would come over and we would like pray away the demons and, uh, wait, I'm sorry.
00:41:04.100
It was like a haunted house. It's okay. Um, yeah, I moved into like a creator house and it's like
00:41:11.080
old, like French European. And like, I was having paranormal activity. No, keep going. And, um,
00:41:19.480
and yeah, like that night that him and I were together, we were having like, my monitor was
00:41:23.420
going off super loud and he was like praying away the demons, but also like praying the Holy
00:41:28.040
Spirit into me. And I felt God's presence for the first time ever. And it just felt like,
00:41:33.200
like happiness and love and just like, I've never felt that before. And then the, like,
00:41:39.860
the paranormal activity stopped and I got delivered by a pastor too. Delivered? Yeah. What does that
00:41:46.600
mean? So I had like, from all my trauma and a lot of negative stuff in my life, I had like bad spirits
00:41:53.180
in me. I just believe everything's spiritual. So he's like rebuked the spirit of Jezebel, like,
00:41:59.100
like the lust spirit, the anger. And then I've been a lot happier. Was it an exorcism?
00:42:06.120
Kind of. You, you went through an exorcism? Deliverance. Wait, you were exercised?
00:42:12.860
Not like in the movies, but like, yes, I had like fasting and prayer and I felt so much better.
00:42:20.320
And was the guy there, the crying for 12 hours guy? Um, he was only there when he was like praying
00:42:27.100
the spirits away and praying like God's presence into me, which I felt, but he wasn't there for the
00:42:31.460
deliverance. And sorry, wait, the deliverance is the, after the exorcism? Is that the, is that
00:42:38.720
another term? Deliverance is the exorcism. Okay. Oh, okay. Huh. Yeah. Interesting. Um, and then now you
00:42:46.780
said after that you're now spiritual, religious, are you Christian? Oh yeah. Okay. What denomination
00:42:53.900
or? I don't know what that is. Do you go to, do you go to a church or? Yeah. Like a Christian
00:42:59.000
church. Do you know the denomination of the church? No. Do you know what it's like when
00:43:03.980
it says church, whatever saint or non-saint that it says, does it say evangelical, Protestant,
00:43:10.540
Presbyterian? Presbyterian. I think it's just normal Christian. It's called Evergreen. It's
00:43:15.300
in Venice area. Okay. I don't know. Uh, you said that you, and now though you're now celibate
00:43:23.000
slash waiting for marriage. Yeah. Okay. And you're going to, you think you're going to hold firm,
00:43:27.880
hold steadfast? I think so. Yeah. When I get engaged, that'll be hard, but, um, when you get
00:43:36.860
engaged? Yeah. Like when I get engaged, I'll probably want to have sex with the person I'm
00:43:40.660
going to marry, but till then I don't want to have sex. There's just so much that comes
00:43:45.160
with it. Like you can get STDs, you can get pregnant. True. It's a lot of suffering. Super
00:43:51.180
true. Okay. Um, and, uh, I going back to the whole, like 12 hours in the car, talking, crying
00:44:00.820
thing. Uh, ladies, would that be, would that make you more or less attracted to a guy if
00:44:10.160
he started, like you've only known that you knew him for a month, right? Two months, two
00:44:14.180
months, like two months is two months too soon for a guy to start crying a little bit, a little
00:44:23.940
soon. I'd appreciate that they can show their emotions, but for 12 hours, it's a long day.
00:44:32.860
That's long. It's a lot. For someone who didn't know for two months. It wasn't crying for 12
00:44:37.420
hours. It's half a day. I've cried, but by myself, I'll go in the car and cry. Like I'm
00:44:43.120
not showing you that I care. Otherwise, like you see that I care. I'm like, it's not, it's
00:44:48.520
not mature. It's just like, I don't want to come off as that. Like, I don't want you telling
00:44:52.640
anyone I cried. I think if it's like the 12 hours of processing together for a relationship
00:44:58.020
that's going to be moving forward, I think that's good that like, you're putting the
00:45:02.560
time and effort into communicating that much and being that open. But if he knew at like
00:45:07.680
hour one, like we're done for good, but I'm still going to continue on for the next like
00:45:12.320
day, then that's where it's like, what are you doing? Was, was it like you guys, the meeting
00:45:18.880
was we are going to end this or that was his plan? Or was it like we hung out, we went
00:45:23.920
on a date, six hours in, then he finds out and he's like, or he figures it out at that
00:45:27.740
moment. He's like, you know what? It's really like weighing in on me. Like I can't do it.
00:45:31.160
And that's when like the other six hours came on.
00:45:33.680
We had a week break and he was like thinking about it and we're like thinking about it of
00:45:38.800
how to go about it. And that meeting, his intention was to end it.
00:45:45.880
Yeah. But I was coming in to just fight it away.
00:45:49.420
Not. He didn't want to end it. I didn't know what his decision was.
00:45:53.380
Wait, if, if, uh, so if he changed, if he had a change up and he was like, uh, I'm actually
00:46:06.520
Because I've come to realization throughout this experience that I'm not going to date
00:46:18.920
Uh, just like where I want to be in my career and mentally and everything.
00:46:25.960
How did he ask you if you were a virgin or not?
00:46:31.920
Yeah. Well, let's assume when you are ready to be in a relationship, he comes back into
00:46:41.380
If he seems like he like is mature and I've seen his growth and yeah.
00:46:53.540
If he came around, I don't know if this parses now that you've answered the question
00:47:01.360
the way you have, but assuming you were ready to like date somebody, if he came around and
00:47:05.320
he's like, yeah, that whole waiting till marriage celibacy thing, I'm actually just
00:47:09.200
throwing that out the window. Are you DTF? Would you, would you smash?
00:47:16.700
Okay. That's fine. I was just curious because maybe he has like a, he changes up or something.
00:47:22.260
Um, by the way, I wasn't trying to like, I mean, I don't, I wasn't trying to like bully
00:47:30.560
the guy over the crying, but, uh, I don't think it's a, I don't think it's like a great
00:47:39.520
idea to be crying in front of people. You know what I mean?
00:47:48.940
You were more attracted to him when he started crying?
00:47:59.000
I, I honestly think when, at least when it comes to men, the only time you should cry is
00:48:05.460
when you have a loss or like some sort of, you either have like maybe catastrophic health
00:48:11.640
problem, family member, catastrophic health problem.
00:48:14.440
Somebody dies, loss of an, like a loved, a well-loved pet, like a dog.
00:48:26.500
Like if you'd been talking to a girl for two months, I'm sorry.
00:48:42.960
Anyways, we need, we have some reacts we have to get to.
00:49:17.380
Feminist man, I think the toxic masculinity is so destructive for our culture.
00:49:27.080
How dare you assume that because I'm a man that I'm going to be paying for this whole dinner.
00:49:30.280
Women are fully capable of paying for themselves.
00:49:32.720
Do you want me to split the bill between you two, then?
00:49:33.900
Actually, why don't we do this so we can really drive this point home for you because
00:49:39.500
Leave the entire bill and she will pay for the entire thing because she is a strong, independent
00:49:45.420
As a feminist woman, wouldn't you agree with that?
00:50:03.160
As a feminist man, I don't want to imply that you can't defend yourself just because you're
00:50:16.760
So going around the table, your reaction to that.
00:50:25.420
Um, so then I, I guess, uh, well, I'll go around the table and I'll ask some more follow-up
00:50:36.140
If a guy's not like, I'm going to take you to lunch, I don't want it.
00:50:39.660
Like I said, I, if I'm going out with a guy, I want him to be a full, I like conservative
00:50:49.660
I like an assertive, like confident guy that like can prove himself.
00:50:53.900
Because if I want to marry a guy, I want him, I want to be a housewife type, type thing.
00:51:00.240
The video, honestly, I think he played her because he knew he didn't have no money.
00:51:07.100
So he was like, all right, this is how you get him.
00:51:12.940
He just wanted to like flip the script to show her how it would feel if he were, yeah.
00:51:39.480
But I like guys that are providers, but also care about women.
00:51:44.520
I like a guy that cares about women, but also definitely a provider.
00:51:47.940
I think it's kind of funny like meeting men that are like, oh, I'm feminist and like kind
00:51:56.620
And it's like, you clearly, like you're just fucking with it.
00:52:00.140
Like you're just using that as like a play with it to like, I'm going to like amp that
00:52:09.560
Like it's not funny, especially when you're dating.
00:52:19.340
But also I think he's kind of like showing the other side, I guess, like showing flipping
00:52:27.940
So then kind of related to that, who do you think should pay on a first date, men or women?
00:52:59.020
Um, either men or the person who asked, because I'm not asking nobody on a date if I don't have
00:53:12.480
Um, I know sometimes there'll be a tendency to agree with somebody before you, uh, says,
00:53:25.600
Oh, um, I mean, I offer to pay, but they don't let me.
00:53:36.380
I'll offer on occasion, but asking out, et cetera, like men.
00:53:41.020
Uh, I would say men, but I would split if they would ask, I guess.
00:53:49.100
Um, men, but I'm also in a relationship, and we switch off, and I'm fine doing that.
00:53:57.300
Um, by the way, guys, I forgot to mention this.
00:53:59.640
Andrew Wilson's going to be doing a call-in a little bit later on the show.
00:54:04.380
I'm not sure exactly when he's going to be doing the call-in, but maybe an hour or two,
00:54:10.400
Uh, so going around the table once more, um, are you a feminist, starting with you?
00:54:18.660
I would say that yes, I am a feminist, because I want women to have the same, like, opportunities
00:54:28.460
I think that some of the classic, like, modern feminist tropes have taken it a bit too far,
00:54:37.980
and, um, I don't agree with certain things in regards to feminism that I think a lot of
00:54:46.700
Um, I guess I would consider myself to be more old-fashioned, uh, thinking.
00:54:54.440
I used to be more liberal, uh, and leftist when I was in Chicago, and I still hold on
00:55:02.100
to a lot of those beliefs, but I think I've become more, like, in the middle and moderate
00:55:23.980
Yeah, and the lights, and, like, the, just sitting down.
00:55:33.220
The conversation about who pays is what pushed you over the edge?
00:55:39.980
We have some Gatorade, and do you want some Gatorade?
00:55:42.480
You want to sit for a bit, see if you feel a bit better?
00:55:56.520
Somebody back there want to show a little accommodation?
00:56:09.480
I used to be more, like, liberal, and I guess we'd consider, like, an angry feminist type.
00:56:17.900
But I've kind of found myself, as I age and grow and meet more people and open my mind
00:56:24.180
to certain things, and I think moving has changed a lot of my opinions, because I used
00:56:28.440
to live in Chicago, and I moved back to L.A., and just, I think, a lot of my beliefs
00:56:36.380
So I wouldn't consider myself not a feminist, but I would say I used to be leaning even more
00:56:42.800
towards the left, and now I've kind of come to a good middle ground.
00:56:50.840
Probably, like, two and a half, three years ago.
00:57:04.920
I think, I like the feminist movement, but I think the new wave feminism is, like, I agree,
00:57:15.400
I think that people who are still protesting for, like, there's no rights for women here.
00:57:20.380
I don't think that there's an opportunity that women can't have here.
00:57:23.820
Like, I think in America, everyone can, like, do what they want, whether it's that.
00:57:31.020
Like, if you're protesting for other countries where women don't have rights, I agree with
00:57:36.820
But here, I think that I have as much rights as you do, you know?
00:57:40.880
I, I, there's not one thing that you can do that I can't.
00:57:46.620
I think, yeah, I think, like, if you're protesting saying, you have more opportunities as a male,
00:57:56.360
As far as feminism goes, I'm not really a feminist, say per se, but women independence
00:58:08.700
I know that I have been independent all of my life, and I really try to make sure that
00:58:14.620
everyone around me is very independent as far as the women.
00:58:19.260
So, I think that as far as feminism, I care about women being independent, but I don't really,
00:58:29.680
I think feminism is bigger than just women being independent.
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I wouldn't label myself a feminist, because I don't really know what that comes with, because
00:58:43.820
Like, I, I do think that women biologically have these traits, and men have these traits,
00:58:59.000
I do empower women to be independent and seek opportunity and everything, but I think
00:59:03.500
it's already equal at this point, especially in these states.
00:59:05.860
I agree, and I recognize that in other places, obviously, there's not nearly as much equality,
00:59:10.940
but not a new wave or anything feminist, by any means.
00:59:14.940
So, I guess going back to you, you seemed like, and especially, I'll get into the notes here
00:59:22.540
You said pretty strongly that you think men should pay.
00:59:28.580
You said men and women should have the same opportunities.
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However, I feel like I kind of relate to the clip that I saw, where I think that, yeah,
00:59:53.180
because I do identify as bi or queer, so it's like, I'm open to dating women, but I think
01:00:01.160
that a good thing about dating a man is, like, they're going to, like, be able to maybe provide
01:00:07.300
I know some women are the providers in their relationships, but that's just not the kind
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of relationship that I'm looking for, but like some of the other ladies here at the table
01:00:15.480
said, I am willing and offering to pay, but I think that if a guy asks a girl out, then
01:00:28.080
Well, so that kind of goes into the whole, like, well, whoever asks should pay thing,
01:00:36.540
If a girl is asking a guy out, I think that's already an issue.
01:00:47.140
I think that that's where it kind of gets, like, harder into, like, being, like, a certain
01:00:53.840
side feminist, I guess, where, like, you want to chase men, but I think that men naturally
01:00:59.720
want to be the pursuers, and they want to chase.
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Well, I don't know if it's actually the case that a majority of men want to be pursuers,
01:01:18.340
insofar as a majority of men are never pursued, so they would actually have no perspective
01:01:31.560
So what percentage of men do you think have been pursued by women?
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I mean, I guess if we're talking about, like, the levels of attractiveness, then probably,
01:01:41.820
like, the top, like, 10, 9, 8, 7s would be getting pursued by women who are, like, a lower
01:01:52.800
So, like, the 4s, the 3s, the 2s, if that's, like, a thing we want to base dating off of,
01:02:04.980
There is some data that's related to the dating apps, but...
01:02:08.900
I know it's not great for men on dating apps, majority of men.
01:02:13.440
Well, it's definitely worse on dating apps, but I would say the sort of experience that
01:02:17.860
men have on dating apps is probably fairly similar to the experience they would otherwise
01:02:22.780
have in the, I guess, quote-unquote, normal dating world, so outside of dating apps.
01:02:27.920
And so, guys who never get messages on dating apps never get approached in person.
01:02:33.860
You're actually probably more likely to get initiated on by a woman on a dating app than
01:02:41.720
Most men never have the experience of ever being hit on, ever being approached.
01:02:45.580
And so, I don't actually believe, I think the majority of men, I think it's really only
01:02:54.800
the top percent of men would be able to say firmly, I prefer to do the initiating.
01:03:05.060
Probably one because they tend to have a good success rate, but I would wager most men, most
01:03:12.140
men would actually welcome women initiating because they struggle...
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But that's because most men are invisible to most women.
01:03:27.700
So, for them to get positive attention, even if they're not the initiator, I'm fairly confident
01:03:33.660
that they would welcome a woman initiating like that.
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It doesn't mean that the woman has to do so in a masculine way or be too forward, but
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I don't think initiation necessarily has to be this dominant masculine thing.
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A woman can initiate in a very sort of gentle, feminine way that I don't think would be
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off-putting to the vast majority of men, even men who have a lot of options, who might
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I'm not convinced that guys actually like this so-called chase.
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I think it's just some trope that we've been told that men like to chase and they want
01:04:29.060
They don't want someone who's running away from them.
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I don't think they want someone who's actively running away from them chase, but I think they
01:04:41.980
I think they want to know that you have options and that they should put some effort towards
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I think that people like to act like they don't like the chase, but like, it's a psychological
01:05:04.640
Like, there's always someone above you like, oh, they have a Rolex.
01:05:08.300
Like, you're chasing something that you can't have.
01:05:12.900
It's not like you're like looking like, oh, I want this person to hate me.
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It's like you are chasing something that, you know, you can't have.
01:05:26.880
Or you're like trying to win over their affection, like courting.
01:05:34.560
But I guess I'm still confused about the whole...
01:05:43.080
And I'm assuming that even, that's not even just legally.
01:05:46.980
You also want women to be viewed equally socially, correct?
01:05:54.200
Because like women and men in society usually play different roles in society.
01:05:59.420
So it's just, I don't think that they'll be seen socially the same, but opportunity wise,
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yeah, I would like for women to have the same opportunities legally, for sure.
01:06:10.780
Like, you say you don't think women will be equal socially?
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No, I just think they play different roles in our society.
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But like, I think they still can have the same opportunities.
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I just don't think as a society they're going to see them as the same.
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Do you think that it's a woman's job to be a stay-at-home wife and get pregnant and raise children?
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I think physically they're the ones that typically do the childbearing and caring for.
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Well, they're the only ones that can get pregnant.
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I mean, you could have like gay men who raise a child together.
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But typically speaking here in a heterosexual all terms, then yeah, I think that I would prefer for women to stay at home with their children and take care of them.
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Or I've been a nanny before, so I kind of know that side of things.
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But I mean, do you object to the statement that that's a woman's job to do that?
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I mean, I think women should have the opportunity to have other jobs.
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But I think that if a woman wants to stay at home and raise their children, they should have equal opportunity to do that along with pursuing whatever other sort of actual business endeavors.
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Like working at a company or starting their own company.
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Well, I guess the angle I'm coming from here is there seems to be a push from feminists to say, like, that isn't really a woman's job.
01:08:08.960
I don't know who else would be doing it if it wasn't a woman's job.
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Like, if there's a section of women who that's what they want to do for their job and their work, and that is labor, it's just a different form than the...
01:08:29.760
I think it's crazy that a woman could give birth to a baby and then also go, like, work a nine-to-five.
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Like, doing that at the same time, I don't think is ideal.
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Do you think that there should be a societal pressure to push women away from more traditional gender roles on the woman's part?
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Like, women who want to raise children and be homesteaders and do all of the things for the childbearing and, like, raising a family.
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Because we do need, like, family to be important in society.
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But also, I know that being a sort of trad wife comes along with a lot of responsibilities and a lot of different things that a lot of women don't want to do.
01:09:29.700
And would rather pursue a corporate type of career or just a career for themselves.
01:09:37.960
Because I think in society, at least from feminists, there does seem to be a bit of demonization when it comes to women's traditional roles.
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So, for example, there's a really big push in society to say, hey, women, go pursue your career.
01:10:00.200
They're saying there's a bigger push in society, especially from feminists, of disregard, not disregard relationship, but, like, disregard traditional gender roles.
01:10:23.620
I mean, there's hardcore feminists that's, like, totally reject family and children.
01:10:27.720
But I definitely think there's a bigger push for women to prioritize career over family.
01:10:35.280
I wouldn't object to it as much if it sort of said either path is okay.
01:10:43.940
And you want to just stay home, let the man be the breadwinner, whatever, raise kids.
01:10:48.120
And that's the extent of your ambitions, which I think are fantastic ambitions.
01:10:54.440
If both of them were elevated to the same degree, I think that would be okay.
01:10:58.500
But, like I said, there's a push to elevate the go be a boss babe, pursue your career, get married in your late 20s, 30s, then have kids.
01:11:06.660
So, I guess my confusion here is essentially we're doing this push to say, well, either one is okay.
01:11:17.060
But it's okay for a woman to do all that, be sort of more progressive when it comes to her career ambitions.
01:11:28.580
Men should still hold to their traditional gender roles.
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I think she's just anxious and she just wasn't going to come back.
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I should have told her, too, that we should have gotten through her notes.
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Let me see if there's anything even interesting in there.
01:12:14.720
So, yeah, guys, I don't know if that was a rage quit or was she crying?
01:12:23.900
12 hours of crying, but she's keeping it to herself, masculine, you know.
01:12:46.740
Well, so she said she got her blood drawn today for the first time ever, and then she
01:12:51.600
said this whole experience just kind of freaked her out.
01:13:03.280
She can't hang with the Daily Wire crew, I'll tell you that.
01:13:06.700
This has been the most milquetoast fucking show so far.
01:13:13.520
Was it the, like, crying, and I asked if the guy was gay?
01:13:28.980
She was, I'm pretty, Austin, be honest, she was, like, fucking crying back there, right?
01:13:58.140
Women are getting sick of situationships, she says, and may stop dating altogether.
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Oh, and also fun dating things I've been in the back.
01:14:13.040
I think with the situationships, like I was saying before, when a woman is pursuing, I
01:14:19.360
think that's when the situationship happens, because the guy is like, this happened too
01:14:25.460
Honestly, I'm not going to commit now, I'm not going to commit now, because what if another baddie comes in, and I'm not available anymore.
01:14:33.980
Honestly, though, in the history of forever, I don't think a woman withholding sex on its own was ever enough to get commitment from a guy.
01:14:50.800
Let me actually think that through a little more.
01:14:53.440
The framing there isn't good, because historically, yes.
01:14:56.140
When women collectively, when the status quo was, we don't have sex until marriage, and that was the societal expectation, then women were able to leverage commitment in exchange for sex.
01:15:46.180
Long term to begin with, with you, you making him wait for sex, I don't think is going to be what it takes.
01:16:01.520
I think it's withholding the label of the relationship and not doing the pursuing, because that's at least what I've noticed when women come on too strong.
01:16:10.920
It kind of makes men take a step back a bit, whereas if you're letting the man pursue you and kind of letting him be like a man, then I think it works out better.
01:16:31.320
I'm dealing with some bullshit behind the scenes here.
01:16:34.340
We were going around the table on something, right?
01:16:40.920
We stopped at me, and then we didn't say it for us.
01:17:01.140
I feel like you guys were going around with something else.
01:17:25.360
Somebody pointed out that she was laughing right before she left.
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Or right before you said, like, state your own opinion.
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Like, she laughed, then you said, state your own opinion,
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She second my motion, and then you were like, oh, no, no,
01:17:44.900
Well, no, he just said something like, we're going to need it.
01:17:55.400
And when I was just like, oh, hey, just make sure you.
01:18:17.300
instead of, like, just saying, oh, whatever she said,
01:18:39.340
No, that's why she was like, I'm 100% not a feminist.
01:18:43.200
She's not a feminist because she can't, like, handle the work.
01:18:45.640
Wait, did we even get to the feminist question?
01:19:03.580
You asked, and then she got up right after you asked, I think.
01:19:53.200
I asked, I said, do you want to split the bill?
01:20:00.540
You should always treat the girl if you're a guy and pay for the full date.
01:20:24.640
She's going to be like, he made me drive all the way to the restaurant and he made me split
01:20:28.620
And then her friends are going to be like, oh, I think he's cute.
01:20:33.060
And she'll be like, oh, no, he's a bill splitter.
01:20:38.640
I wouldn't let my daughter date a bill splitter.
01:20:41.680
I wouldn't let my daughter date a bill splitter either.
01:20:56.720
Okay, as a guy, if you want the most success, you should pay for the bill.
01:21:01.040
But what I think is fair, what I think is fair and what should be during the current
01:21:10.120
dating climate, I think y'all should pay for your food.
01:21:22.920
You should pay if you want the most success when it comes to your dating.
01:21:26.720
Uh, but if we're talking about, like, what ought to be, yeah, you guys should pay for
01:21:41.880
You just want no one to succeed in your relationship.
01:21:43.180
If the girl likes you, honestly, if the girl likes you enough, she'll be cool with it.
01:21:50.220
And if they say yes, then I'm like, oh, screw this guy.
01:21:58.760
If the girl really likes you, which is what you want as a guy, she won't care.
01:22:09.220
Even if she does really like you, she's going to take it as, like, oh, he doesn't really
01:22:15.000
Yeah, but she'll know that you really like her when you're like, let's meet up again,
01:22:33.900
Like, he obviously is going to want to go out with me again because it's, like, half-off.
01:22:39.660
Yeah, wouldn't the guy want to go on a date more because he gets to save money?
01:22:56.180
Well, the last guy I did that was crying a lot and not masculine, I never had to even offer.
01:23:09.340
And then it made me come into my feminine, and I was, like, I was never the type to be, like, I want to cook for a guy.
01:23:14.220
And I never got to the point of it, but I was, like, I would love to make him breakfast because he buys me food.
01:23:19.220
And it just comes to a place where he goes in his masculine, you go in your feminine, and you just want to take care of each other.
01:23:31.560
Normally, I don't read much of the normal chat.
01:23:41.560
Is it men that make relationship a business, or is it women?
01:23:50.280
If you object to the statement, oh, we should just pay for our own thing, is it the man who has the standard, or is it the woman who has the standard and the expectation that men should pay?
01:24:04.380
My friend's friend, super successful, like millionaires, my age, like 20, he has a friend, he has autism.
01:24:11.580
So he calculates how much he spends on a girl, and if he spends more than a prostitute cause, he'll break up with her, which is crazy.
01:24:22.560
Which I'm saying, like, he makes it a business.
01:24:28.040
I'm actually prepared to, I mean, Lauren's not here, so I can't argue with her.
01:24:32.760
If you can be here within 30 minutes, we'll put you on the panel, because the fucking snowflake left.
01:24:39.920
So, I can just, I'm pretty, I'll just make the argument that women view it as a business.
01:24:48.720
Because women initiate divorces, women are more likely to seek child support, whereas men, we had a woman on the panel on Sunday, where she was out earning the guy for a period of time, and the guy could have gone after child support, but the guy just didn't.
01:25:07.200
So, even in instances, for example, where there could be a child support dispute, and the guy could actually receive child support from the woman, men are far less likely to seek child support when it's, like, split custody, shared custody.
01:25:22.940
And then, secondly, when it comes to divorce, also same with divorce, men are much more likely, whoever is initiating the divorce, if the woman's the breadwinner, men are much less likely to be as aggressive when it comes to getting equitable distribution of what's been made during the relationship, anything, any alimony.
01:25:46.040
Men are much more likely to forego seeking alimony and distribution.
01:25:50.620
They might just kind of go, like, okay, let's just get divorced.
01:25:53.180
Some men do, of course, but men are less likely to do it, and in any case, women are 80%, women initiate 80% divorces, and they are far more likely to go after a man financially in the event of a divorce than the reverse.
01:26:08.020
So, Lauren, I say to you, who is it really who sees relationships as business, men or women?
01:26:24.220
You can come on the show, and we can debate it if you want.
01:26:29.200
Let's do one more react, and then I'll get into some of the pre-show notes.
01:26:38.300
Oh, this might be related to what we were talking about.
01:26:41.540
I think I destroyed our relationship trying to compliment my boyfriend.
01:26:45.160
My boyfriend and I are both 28 years old and together for 2.5 years.
01:26:49.920
Yesterday night, we were drinking, and one thing led to another.
01:26:53.720
And I tried to compliment him by saying he is not someone who I would hook up or be a friend with benefits with, but marry.
01:27:00.420
I thought everything was fine, but he seemed extremely distraught after that.
01:27:04.500
I realized how he understood it and tried to clarify it, but he is still the same this morning.
01:27:09.100
He told me he needs space to think for a while and left the house.
01:27:11.880
All my friends tell me I messed it up, and guys tell me it's not a compliment, and most men will understand it differently.
01:27:17.660
I think I destroyed our relationship, and I am panicking right now.
01:27:36.440
Well, I guess we'll just get the reaction then.
01:27:39.100
I meant to do a different one, my bad, but we'll react to it.
01:27:43.600
Okay, so they've been together two and a half years, and she said she wouldn't be a hook-up or friends with benefits, but she would marry.
01:27:52.520
I have felt that way about a guy in the past, and I feel like he would also be kind of hurt by it, because I feel like for someone to say that, that means that maybe they're not that, I guess, sexually attracted to them or find them attractive enough to do a friends with benefits or one-night stand.
01:28:09.780
But I would take it, if I were the guy, as a compliment, because it's like marriage is usually what the long-term goal is for dating, relationships.
01:28:22.460
Not always, but I would take it as a compliment if I were the guy.
01:28:35.100
Honestly, I think that she didn't have a wrong point, because at the end of the day, there's certain types of things you want from people, and she let him know that she wanted the most from him.
01:28:55.600
I think what she was trying to deliver, she kind of, yeah, it was just worded wrong.
01:29:03.180
I mean, I like Christian guys that want to get married, so if you didn't like that, I'd be like, red flag.
01:29:11.380
I feel like she worded it wrong, too, but at the same time, I think it depends on the person.
01:29:16.260
So if I know, like, if I was in his shoes, and I knew that my girlfriend of two and a half years was that type of chick beforehand, to be like constant F buddies, all these things, and so if she said that to me, and I knew that from beforehand, I wouldn't take it offensively.
01:29:30.540
I'd say, okay, she actually wanted to convince me I'm attractive.
01:29:35.260
But if she's somebody who's, like, any other side.
01:29:45.940
Cook, clean, grocery shop, and maintain house W slash half-acre yard weekend.
01:29:51.440
I clean and maintain my grandma house W slash three-plus-acre property.
01:30:07.080
Are you, like, asking if any of the girls would date you?
01:30:13.920
I think a submissive woman would cook and clean, though.
01:30:22.280
Wouldn't a submissive girl, like, wouldn't that include, you know, cooking and cleaning?
01:30:38.440
She's, like, obedient to whatever he says and decides.
01:31:01.500
I think, essentially, like, the male perspective here is, like, this is the second, third, fourth,
01:31:14.780
Because she's basically admitting, I have fucked guys really quickly.
01:31:22.380
I wouldn't have done it with you because you're not attractive enough.
01:31:33.120
After I've had my fun in my college days, in my early 20s, fucked a bunch of dudes, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
01:31:39.720
Now, we're in a cozy, comfortable relationship.
01:31:45.220
And I still fantasize about those, like, really exciting, hot sexual experiences I had with men in my youth.
01:32:05.140
But I didn't say that because I feel like that's disrespectful and also manipulative in the sense of, like, oh, one day, one day, one day, let's just keep fucking.
01:32:13.760
I've been, like, in my head, I've been, like, okay, I like you, but I want you to mature a little bit.
01:32:19.740
Like, I want you to mature, but I could see myself being with somebody like you.
01:32:29.240
Because a lot of girls that date girls are also, like, super PC and feminist and all that, which I'm not.
01:32:43.480
I agree, but I don't think that's what she was trying to say.
01:32:46.460
Like, I don't think she was trying to say I'm not attracted to you and I don't want to have sex with you.
01:32:57.860
You just follow up with her and make sure she's, like, okay.
01:33:19.440
She's going back to the dark room of her bedroom.
01:33:36.020
She was going to come with her friend initially.
01:33:41.820
I reveal the details of, like, people who cancel.
01:33:46.580
But, like, you got to realize every time we have a panel.
01:33:53.880
So if we have, like, the past three shows, we had ten flakes every single show.
01:34:05.080
The excuses are, like, the pretty much the biggest amount of bullshit ever.
01:34:15.160
So, I mean, props to all of you who actually made it and showed up and stuff.
01:34:20.500
But I'm trying to actually find, oh, her friend.
01:34:31.340
And then she says, I'm not in, this is yesterday at 5 p.m.
01:34:49.780
I so badly want to, the wage gap doesn't exist.
01:34:53.060
But I so badly want to actually argue that it's 100% justified.
01:34:57.800
I don't know if that, it's so fucking justified.
01:35:07.220
And then, like, when, like, they're like, oh, it'll be a funny idea.
01:35:10.340
And then when it actually comes, they're like, wait, that was kind of, like, a drunken or stupid decision I made to be on a podcast.
01:35:19.480
Like, in the moment, like, you're laughing with your friends.
01:35:24.860
And then, like, and then the time comes and you're like, wait, I've never been on camera.
01:35:32.820
I mean, when it comes to the entertainment industry, it's kind of normal.
01:35:46.220
Like, don't, like, why waste, you're wasting your time.
01:35:53.200
Oh, I mean, honestly, the people kind of ask about, like, oh, man, it must be so stressful
01:36:02.760
It's, like, the talent coordination that's the most stressful thing.
01:36:11.000
We had one girl today who no showed, who we had her booked, like, months out.
01:36:15.980
And people just don't even have the courtesy to just be, like, even if it, I mean, obviously,
01:36:34.780
I'd rather somebody just say, like, hey, I'm not coming.
01:36:36.780
But most people have, like, zero, like, the biggest red pill is probably, like, trying
01:36:43.260
to book 20 girls every single week to, like, be here a certain time, on time.
01:37:04.400
We have, going to some of your notes here, you said you dated a girl long distance and
01:37:13.880
Me and my ex-boyfriend of five years had a toxic, drug-filled relationship.
01:37:22.160
Well, we dated last summer and then she was going to college.
01:37:26.380
So we went on a road trip to drop her off in Boston, which was, like, an eight-day road
01:37:30.580
It was actually, we were on the road trip now last year.
01:37:34.400
Um, and then I was in school at the time, so I would just ditch class, tell no one, and
01:37:53.980
It was the one where we broke up, like, nine months ago.
01:38:02.940
I don't remember what I was going with that, but I guess, yeah.
01:38:06.760
I mean, I think hooking up young, I think hooking up young is fine.
01:38:10.800
You know, I, I watch, I actually watch some of the Daily Wire people and I think I disagree
01:38:18.100
with, I think hookup culture, you find out what you want in a relationship, like what
01:38:25.180
I respect people that wait, but when I hook up with people, I'm like, I feel that connect.
01:38:31.560
I feel like I feel connected to that person more than just, like, talking sometimes, because
01:38:36.800
if I hook up with someone, usually I'm like, oh my God, I really like this person.
01:38:44.300
Because I think hookup culture of just, like, I want to hook up with you just to, like, feel
01:38:53.300
I want to feel connected to that person when I hook up with someone.
01:38:56.200
And if I don't feel that, I'm not going to hit you back up.
01:38:58.320
Well, I, I don't disagree with the, with the part where you said sex is important in
01:39:08.320
I would say though, my disagreement when it comes to hookup culture, I think, so when
01:39:13.540
I think of hookup culture, I think people who are just having casual sex without the
01:39:17.620
intention of pursuing something long-term with a given individual.
01:39:22.420
I forgot who said it, but someone said they want to date for marriage.
01:39:25.900
Like, I won't get in a relationship unless it's for marriage.
01:39:31.640
But, so hooking up to me, I feel comfortable in my sexuality and things to be able to hook
01:39:39.380
Like, who knows if I would date men and women if I didn't hook up with either of them.
01:39:45.060
And then you get in the position where, you know, a Christian guy, I'm not saying him,
01:39:49.840
gets in a relationship with a woman, they marry, he realizes he's gay.
01:39:54.220
And I feel like sex, you feel, like, what you want.
01:40:00.140
If you vibe during sex, I feel like you could vibe outside of sex.
01:40:07.820
Wait, when you get married, do you want to get married to a man or a woman?
01:40:13.360
Honestly, I've thought about that a lot, and I'm not sure.
01:40:16.080
In a relationship with women, I'm more of, like, the masculine one.
01:40:18.740
But with a guy, I want the complete opposite, like, wife me kind of thing.
01:40:24.640
So when you date women, you're dominant, but when you're with a guy, you want to be more submissive?
01:40:47.460
But, I mean, does that have any impact on who you want to get married to then?
01:40:51.440
Actually, jokingly, when I was dating my ex-girlfriend, we met this guy that's so attractive.
01:41:02.700
And he said, hit me up one day, and I'll be your sperm donor.
01:41:15.620
So, the genes on that one and me would not be cute.
01:41:25.300
What's more important, them being tall or them not being a former drug addict?
01:41:30.740
A lot of people I know are former drug addicts, because I'm sober.
01:41:36.440
Like, a lot of my friends are drug addicts, because I'm an ex-drug addict.
01:41:40.320
I was in sober living for a year with, like, 30-year-olds.
01:41:43.500
You know, that's, like, kind of my friend group.
01:42:00.760
Like, obviously, if you got, like, one on your hoo-ha, we can't see that.
01:42:33.580
Because I write music still, but I kept the name because I had to.
01:42:42.760
My parents say it says Home Bitch and make fun of me all the time for it.
01:42:48.000
This is for Aspen, Colorado, because my grandma has a house up there and we go every year.
01:42:52.080
This one says Relieve Me of the Bondage of Self and it's a girl tattoo or it's a girl
01:43:03.000
It says Relieve Me of the Bondage of Self and it's a girl tied up.
01:43:14.600
I do have tattoos, but they're not in places to show.
01:43:20.320
Okay, so you know I got the a real brat because I am a real brat.
01:43:38.580
It's like, honestly, everyone that does my tattoos are people who are becoming a tattoo artist.
01:43:45.120
I like people like that because they're doing it for something.
01:44:02.980
And then my first tattoo was this little stick and poke.
01:44:07.440
My friend's mom found us drunk in her bed, like, literally, like, just with ink and, like, markers and pens.
01:44:17.000
Just stabbing yourself with the needle trying to get the ink in.
01:44:20.060
I got an infection because it was, like, straight out of a ballpoint pen.
01:44:27.280
I don't know if that's a normal thing because people are giving looks.
01:44:49.260
I have other tattoos, but I don't really, like, um...
01:45:07.640
I don't like to talk about it because I'm my dad.
01:45:18.380
You might see this because this is, like, Red Line Pipeline or whatever it's called.
01:45:28.140
He doesn't look at my Instagram, but he watches, like, Red Pipeline stuff.
01:45:36.400
She was like, oh, like, he just watches Red Pipeline stuff.
01:45:48.980
Um, it's half Filipino, half Italian, Native American, or quarter.
01:46:08.200
He's probably one of our, like, major TTSers, like, Low Paladins or some shit.
01:46:21.120
My parents sent me a long paragraph before this and said,
01:46:23.680
Just so you know, anything you put on the internet's there forever.
01:46:54.980
No, I mean, I appreciate when people come on and they're, like, super open about stuff.
01:47:00.100
Bro, guys, you know, look, it's getting hard, boys.
01:47:03.340
We might have to, who knows how long the show, enjoy it while the last, boys.
01:47:06.480
And then, who knows, maybe we have to go down to only one show a week, and then maybe we'll
01:47:12.860
eventually have to take it to the streets because it's, like, progressively harder and
01:47:17.760
harder to do the whole talent coordination shit.
01:47:48.300
I have a lot more tattoos, but I can't show them, you know.
01:47:54.240
Wait, do you have one, like, right above your...
01:48:14.800
One time I was, like, about to hook up with a girl, but, like, right above her...
01:48:37.860
I'll just get the neon sign that says open on it.
01:48:41.380
I was like, oh, maybe we can watch Netflix instead.
01:48:58.020
Like, even if the opportunity's there, if there's something like that...
01:49:02.040
Tell her you have a blindfold kink and just don't look at it.
01:49:10.620
You just, like, picture Megan Fox or something.
01:49:21.980
If you have a tattoo that says YOLO on your vagina, you know...
01:49:26.240
It doesn't necessarily mean that the vagina's dirty.
01:49:32.420
Like, what's the likelihood of, like, that means it's dirty?
01:49:40.580
How do you go from, like, about to have sex, and then you're just, like, no?
01:49:48.180
As a girl, like, I would have just left immediately.
01:49:52.840
You're about to have sex, and the guy's like, let's just watch Netflix.
01:50:05.020
And then you're like, oh, let's just kick it, you know?
01:50:19.380
Either they won't sleep with you, and then there's really no need to ever call them again.
01:50:24.720
And then there's really no need to ever call them again.
01:50:41.240
I feel like you found it, thought it was really good, and then you were like, I gotta use this.
01:50:51.720
The execution was not good, I'll tell you that.
01:50:54.900
I have like 50 buttons on here I've never pressed.
01:50:58.380
And then another 50, I've pressed like one time.
01:51:02.020
Okay, I'll find one that I've never done before.
01:51:08.040
When does fucking somebody else mean that I'm not faithful to you?
01:51:14.900
I only did it with her because I'm in love with you.
01:51:21.800
So those two are from one of my favorite movies.
01:51:25.440
It's called The Rules of Attraction, based on the Brett Easton Ellis novel of the same name.
01:51:37.360
So he wrote the book, which the movie's based on with Patrick Bateman.
01:51:43.760
But The Rules of Attraction is set in the same universe as American Psycho.
01:51:47.940
And I actually think The Rules of Attraction, in some ways, it's not...
01:51:54.360
I think it's actually darker than American Psycho.
01:52:02.340
I think he lives sort of in the area I've been trying to get him...
01:52:06.700
We might try to get him on the show for, like, a one-on-one interview.
01:52:09.160
Because this is one of my favorite movies, so...
01:52:25.340
I feel like you guys are too young to know about that.
01:53:10.820
I said, Goals, you go, I was doing film, and now I'm doing this.
01:54:11.840
I don't even know what the, what was the topic?
01:54:16.520
It was on, well, I can't even, I don't even want to get into the topic on YouTube.
01:54:22.680
When you say it was bad, did you, did you lose?
01:54:41.020
So we had a literally shaking quit for the first time ever on the show.
01:55:11.140
Drop us a follow on the Prime sub if you have one.
01:55:19.900
It's been 36 minutes since we last had a Prime.
01:55:25.000
If you guys can drop a follow and a Prime sub, it would be super helpful, guys.
01:55:41.680
We're going to get him going here in just a sec.
01:55:52.320
I don't mean to cut in, but this is really lagging really hard on this end of the broadcast.
01:55:58.500
You want to try to restart your computer or restart the call?
01:56:07.600
So, Shannon, you said that your plus size, you only date six to seven-figure earning men, and you'd love to discuss your experiences.
01:56:16.920
So you said only date six to seven-figure earning men.
01:56:19.280
They don't have to be earning seven-figures or anything like that, but I do want a man who has a comfortable lifestyle that they're going to be providing.
01:56:33.040
But so in your pre-show notes, and I know you might have sent these in a while ago, you did say you only date six to seven-figure earning men.
01:56:41.300
I try to date men who are around that range, and I'm not going to date a guy who doesn't have any money or any future, but I'm currently dating someone who I'm pretty sure they don't make six figures,
01:56:57.760
but I know they have a comfortable lifestyle, hopefully, set up for the two of us.
01:57:04.840
Doesn't that oppose the feminine thing, though?
01:57:08.600
No, I think that in feminism, women should have choices.
01:57:12.840
But what if he said that, that you have to make a certain amount?
01:57:29.060
Because in your pre-show notes, you said you only date six to seven-figure earning men.
01:57:34.240
I think that was a couple months ago when I sent that, but it's true.
01:57:38.100
I do try to date men who have nice lifestyles to provide.
01:57:43.400
Does that not make me a feminist, or it just makes me smart?
01:57:46.500
You said that, I'm trying to remember exactly how you framed it.
01:57:53.500
Because I was on Gavin's podcast and talking about dating high-earning men.
01:58:00.160
You said that feminism is about women having choices.
01:58:08.860
They can choose to date a woman who is going to be a provider.
01:58:14.100
You know, it depends on their own, I guess, situation with dating, right?
01:58:22.880
Like, I've gotten comments from people online saying that my, what I'm asking for is, like,
01:58:31.540
to, I guess, like, they say that I have to reach a certain level to get to that certain
01:58:39.860
level of success for a man, and I think it's kind of true for men as well.
01:58:43.520
Like, if, like, let's say if I were to lose weight and, like, be a quote-unquote 10,
01:58:52.840
then I would be able to get more of a guy who's, like, a higher provider, if that makes sense.
01:59:01.580
Like, maybe if they're not somewhere in regards to their looks or social skills,
01:59:07.400
maybe they would get a higher-paying job to accommodate that or something along those lines.
01:59:12.760
Maybe they don't make that much, but they're really, really attractive,
01:59:15.240
and then they have to kind of work their way up to making a certain amount of money
01:59:19.900
if they want to get a certain amount, or if they want to get a certain type of woman.
01:59:28.360
I think it's the same thing of if you want, like, people say it's wrong for men to say,
01:59:33.920
I want this type of body or I want this kind of girl.
01:59:42.140
But then, you know, women could be like, oh, I want this guy to make this much money
01:59:48.720
Like, if a girl says, you have to make this amount of money,
01:59:51.980
and the guy says, well, I want the girl to look like this or have this quality about her,
01:59:55.840
like, that's where the feminist movement kind of gets screwed up.
02:00:02.600
If, like, a girl's like, I want a guy with a big dick,
02:00:05.420
then a guy could say, well, I want a girl that's skinny and has a fat ass.
02:00:11.700
Or if a girl says she wants a guy with a big dick,
02:00:21.460
I only date women who have large labias, by the way.
02:00:35.360
And you have that choice of, to, like, your type.
02:00:41.900
Like, write out a list of, like, what you want qualities in somebody.
02:01:04.500
No, I mean, like, I don't want a girl with a big labia.
02:01:13.180
You've got to manifest that shit like you already have it.
02:01:15.660
You've got to be so delusional that it comes true.
02:01:31.180
Andrew is also, you know, look, I know we're joking.
02:01:33.740
I know we're joking around here a little bit, but I'm serious.
02:01:39.920
I have a nonprofit organization, and this is actually, this is the serious thing.
02:02:14.680
Is there something wrong with Big Labia Matter?
02:02:23.260
You know Black Lives Matter, so I was automatically thinking, like, hold on.
02:02:51.680
You want to change it because there's so many like that.
02:02:55.320
You've got Blue Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter, now Big Labia Matters.
02:02:58.520
Now everyone gets the protest fight of what BLM stands for.
02:03:14.360
You have to get BLM tatted on your forehead now.
02:03:21.560
You know, it would be smart to collide the two.
02:03:30.780
Hey, but they do talk about the BBC, so I feel like it would be fair.
02:04:04.020
This is off the rails, off the rails, and I blame it all on Andrew Wilson.
02:04:19.080
So, have you ever turned down the guy in the past because he didn't make seven figures?
02:04:27.440
It's not because he didn't make seven figures, but it's because I didn't see us having a lifestyle that I would be comfortable in.
02:04:41.380
I want to be, that's a big thing for me is that I really want to be financially comfortable.
02:04:47.420
Do you want to be stay-at-home, stay-at-home wife?
02:04:52.320
I don't, my current relationship I'm in, we are pretty much on the same page about not wanting to have kids.
02:04:59.760
So, I would still keep on having a career and having my own money, but I would like for him to be providing for the most part.
02:05:10.620
But I think if I were to be having kids, then of course I'd want someone who's going to be providing 100%.
02:05:18.340
How old, just curious, how old is your current boyfriend?
02:05:28.900
He, his income is an interesting situation because he owns a home where he is a landlord on the property for different tenants that are living there.
02:05:41.700
While he pursues his own, like, creative endeavors.
02:05:45.420
And if you're watching this, hun, you are a little bit of a Nepo baby.
02:05:53.560
So, you said in the previous message you were in the top 2% of OnlyFans in 2021.
02:06:02.880
You've also run some of the top accounts in the 0.01%.
02:06:08.140
So, I was doing, are we allowed to say the full name or should we say OF?
02:06:16.660
So, yeah, I was on OF for about a year and a half during the pandemic.
02:06:21.740
And then I got into a relationship and stopped being active.
02:06:30.400
And the agency had a few different branches to it.
02:06:36.200
So, I was basically helping with the running of certain people's accounts.
02:06:51.800
But I saw on your Instagram, you're like, you're trying to lose weight currently, right?
02:07:17.160
Me and Andrew, we're joining Weight Watchers any week now.
02:07:21.340
Yeah, I think Weight Watchers probably isn't the best for, I don't know, for, they're, they're
02:07:31.940
I lost 20 pounds and got lean muscle when I quit seed oils.
02:07:35.500
Me and Andrew are actually going to do Thai Bo classes together.
02:07:42.380
Andrew, do you want to do like Thai Bo classes?
02:07:45.560
We got to wear like leggings though if we do it.
02:07:57.860
I thought we were going to keep each other accountable, Andrew.
02:08:04.500
I'm not, I'm flying over there and we're not going to do content.
02:08:25.160
Uh, so, uh, uh, what was I, oh, um, do you think I, I have a shot as a plus size model?
02:08:45.840
So plus size women fashion doesn't really have that.
02:08:48.560
I mean, they have a good amount of options compared to the early two thousands, but in regards
02:08:52.680
to men's plus size fashion, they don't have like hardly any options, but DXL is a store
02:08:59.780
that they can physically go in person, at least mostly in Southern California.
02:09:04.360
And, um, yeah, it's like one of the only in-person plus size male retailers.
02:09:19.220
Oh, uh, like XL right now, but I should probably like try to get back down to an L.
02:09:30.740
Um, it's like, it's like you're a midsize at that point, I guess.
02:09:35.820
Is that real, is that your real height or do you like to?
02:09:40.460
Cause like the chat keeps telling me that I have like a fatty.
02:09:49.200
Wait, what's a fat, what's a fatty in the front?
02:10:01.160
But no, they like keep telling me I have like a, like a dumpy or whatever, but so I might
02:10:17.860
You're shaped like a pear if you've got a big top.
02:10:27.160
I think, honestly, I think Calvin Klein should hire me.
02:10:35.780
Like, I think it's time for plus size male representation.
02:11:16.240
In your notes, you said your entire dating history is wild.
02:11:18.900
Loads of stories dated and traveled the United States for hours.
02:11:21.820
For eight months, I can tell you about my experience dating in Chicago, New York City, Vegas, and L.A.
02:11:28.680
I've also dated guys who took me to McDonald's and to walk in the park on the first date.
02:11:35.440
So now that I have what I would consider higher standards for dating, I did not have the standards that you see here today at 28 when I was younger.
02:11:48.060
And I feel like being part of, like, the OF world kind of opened me up to having these experiences with, like, dating men who had, like, more resources, I guess, to offer.
02:12:02.040
So your standards have increased since your youth?
02:12:28.120
Um, I guess, I don't really know if I would consider them that, but I guess guys online would send me money, so.
02:12:37.880
Any girl here, just show of hands, had a sugar daddy?
02:12:51.400
May want to think about retracting that statement.
02:13:04.700
Because I got into a relationship with a guy who was willing to provide me a certain lifestyle.
02:13:13.920
So I left and, um, just didn't feel like it was right for me to get back into.
02:13:20.560
I kind of realized that I was interested in talking to just one guy and not talking to a bunch of people on the site.
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No billionaire, but one of my exes was making, like, $300K a year.
02:13:54.560
Kind of like what I was saying before with, you asked me, oh, do, something about, like, the scale from, like, because I know you guys rate each other through one through ten.
02:14:13.900
Oh, so desirability politics, essentially, just where you land in the dating marketplace in terms of your desirability.
02:14:24.780
I guess just, like, how people feel about, like, where certain people stand.
02:14:36.160
Stifler asked everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
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Um, I've been working on my body and, like, going to the gym every day, eating healthy.
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So, I'd say a 9, 10, because I want to get there.
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So, I'm, like, I feel confident in myself and, like, where my body's at and everything.
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Where before, I would have looked in the mirror instead of zero.
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9, because I want to, I'm still working on getting exactly where I want.
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Also, I want to have the chat rate you on something.
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Because I think a lot of guys kind of like the more raspy voice.
02:16:13.840
And it kind of, you know, like that, uh, the Elvis movie where he just, like, kept that voice.
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I've seen, I've had, like, some videos and shows where girls will have a bit more of a raspy voice.
02:16:35.180
Um, I rate myself a 10 always because I look better and better every single day, regardless
02:16:51.200
Um, I don't want to come off vain, but I also don't want to feed into that question
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because I feel like he likes to just see women, like, to either degrade themselves or look
02:17:15.720
Yeah, but I think I'm beautiful inside and out.
02:17:24.700
But I'm not going to rate myself because I don't like that question.
02:17:35.860
If you did like the question, though, what would you, oh my God, I'm such a goblin.
02:17:42.220
Do you have a number in your head that you know is an answer?
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Is it a 10, but you don't want to sound arrogant?
02:17:58.160
Well, she's saying she doesn't want to sound vague.
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I really just don't know the purpose of asking that question.
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I'm sorry I wasn't able to catch everybody's name because I'm a little late to the broadcast.
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The gal with the pink hair, what did you say your name was?
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I understand why you don't want to rate yourself because you find it to be like a trick question.
02:19:23.160
I feel like if I can explain to you why this question is asked, you'll be far more likely
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So, the reason that this question is asked is because it's our belief that many, many women
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actually judge each other the second they sit down at the table.
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The second they sit down at the table with other women.
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And if we can get a full camera view of the room real quick, can you raise your hand if
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this is correct that you have either experienced this or done it yourself, which is okay.
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You've gotten in a room with other women and you immediately, yeah, rate their looks.
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So, because we know that this is true, because that is the number one most common answer,
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we feel like when we ask this question to you guys, you don't actually want to hurt any
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of the other gals' feelings who might be there.
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And so, you answer perhaps dishonestly, even though we know the chances are pretty good that
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you've already been comparing yourself to probably every other woman who's sitting at
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So, that's what the purpose of the question is.
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It's just to kind of assess which gals are going to be honest with us and which ones are
02:20:38.600
I think that's your point, but I don't think that was Stifler's point.
02:20:43.200
I think that a lot of guys that watch this have an animosity towards women and they want
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us to rate ourselves to look like a fool or something, either to look arrogant or to
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How can you look like a fool if you tell the truth?
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I just don't think rating myself is something I owe Stifler.
02:21:05.460
Well, you don't owe it to him, no, but you can understand that it seems like kind of foolish
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to me to say, well, me telling the truth is going to make me look foolish.
02:21:15.360
I mean, that's not going to make you look foolish, right?
02:21:17.100
The more honest you are with your answer, the less foolish you're going to look.
02:21:20.120
In fact, you can even play it against Stifler and give yourself a rating, which is more of
02:21:28.280
And that'll probably actually, the joke's on him then, right?
02:21:32.960
Well, just doing social media, I just don't respond to comments that I don't want to.
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And I don't want to respond to his comment because he seems weird.
02:21:42.360
Okay, well, let me ask you a different question.
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Who would you say, from your own personal opinion, is the prettiest girl sitting at
02:21:57.280
I don't know what's the point of you asking that because I think inner beauty is more important.
02:22:00.880
Okay, well, then let me ask you a different question then.
02:22:04.180
Between myself and Brian, which one do you think is better looking?
02:22:13.500
I mean, none of you guys are my type, so I don't really see it that way.
02:22:22.800
I do like white guys, but just 21-year-olds, maybe, Christian.
02:22:31.040
Yeah, but the point of the question is just to assess, you know, like, from your own subjective
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Even that comment there just gave me, like, bad vibes.
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I know the energy behind it, and I don't feed into negative energy like that.
02:23:07.740
It's trying to be argumentative for something I don't think is good for my spirit.
02:23:13.860
I think if you answer the question, it would have been easier, and it wouldn't, but as
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argumentative, I think it's more argumentative that you keep on dragging it along and saying,
02:23:28.760
When he asked who's the prettiest, I saw you look around first.
02:23:34.440
It's like, you looked around, so I was like, and then you said you don't want to answer.
02:23:43.280
I just don't understand why I can't not answer.
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You can not answer, and you don't owe anything.
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The reason that we're wondering why you won't is just simple.
02:24:00.080
Is it just because you don't want to hurt anybody's feelings?
02:24:05.420
I don't know, because answering the question wouldn't hurt anyone's feelings.
02:24:12.840
That would be the one sitting directly across from Brian.
02:24:15.240
I'm not going to say if I'm prettier than anybody.
02:24:16.180
It's simply because I just think that the reason he asked it is because.
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Like, I'm not over here, like, sizing everyone up.
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If any guy asked me that, I wouldn't answer it.
02:25:06.740
Well, if it comes to me, I'll try to remember it.
02:25:09.240
Well, kind of related to this going around the table, we asked this kind of as a follow-up question.
02:25:13.480
And just to give a bit of context, because you're asking, like, why do people ask these kind of questions?
02:25:20.400
I definitely think, like, how you self-evaluate yourself is really important when it comes to dating.
02:25:27.860
So that's – and obviously, looks is really important when it comes to dating.
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That's going to dictate what you think you deserve in the dating marketplace.
02:25:39.100
It's going to dictate what kind of partner you can get, what kind of, you know, things you can ask for, your standards, those sort of things.
02:25:46.880
So that's kind of one of the reasons why I think Stifler and Definitely Not the Whatever podcast asks it.
02:25:53.400
That's definitely why Stifler definitely asks it.
02:25:59.980
But going around the table, do you think you will be better looking in 10 years' time as compared to now, starting with you?
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And I hope just keep getting better and better.
02:26:23.040
Like, I've seen some women online and in person who I know.
02:26:28.780
I think they just get better and better looking.
02:26:43.400
In 30 years, it depends on, I guess, what you value in regards to, like, dating and beauty.
02:26:49.760
Because by the time I'm, like, 60, it's going to be an interesting dating pool and dating market, I guess.
02:26:59.420
So who – I think I want to try to frame this a little differently tonight.
02:27:03.800
And so when it comes to a – the heterosexual dating marketplace, who are the appraisers of physical attraction?
02:27:21.100
Do you think that looks are important when it comes to dating?
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And do you think men care a lot, a little, medium amount, about looks?
02:27:33.660
I think they care about looks generally pretty high.
02:27:40.420
I think there's other factors that come into play besides just looks.
02:27:45.740
And so the question reframed is then, at what age do you think of the entire population of men, do you think you will have the most amount of men attracted to you?
02:28:05.060
Because you said you would be better looking at 58, so then would it stand to reason that the vast majority – the majority of men would find you at your most attractive at 58?
02:28:17.880
I would say majority probably wouldn't because I guess the majority of men we're thinking about are looking maybe to get married and have children.
02:28:27.060
And at that age, I wouldn't be seen as desirable to men who are interested in doing that.
02:28:34.380
But maybe to people who, like your sound, gilfs, they would be into it.
02:28:44.500
And then – because just one other point of clarification.
02:28:48.540
So when we're asking this question, we're not saying that women can't be attractive at 38, 48, beyond, et cetera.
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We're just asking, compared to now, like yourself, will you be more attractive 10 years' time, 20 years' time, 30 years' time, et cetera?
02:29:07.580
So far, I feel like I've gotten more attractive as I age.
02:29:12.260
So maybe not my peak at 38, but I think maybe like 32 I'll probably be the most attractive in my own opinion.
02:29:20.700
And then are you more attractive now at 28 than you were at 18?
02:29:35.020
Do you think you'll be more attractive at 30 than you are now?
02:29:38.660
My mom is the most beautiful person I know, and she aged like fine wine.
02:29:55.240
Wait, your like 20-year-old male friends are hitting on your mom?
02:29:59.000
My actual porn star friend, he's hitting on my grandma who's 90s – 86.
02:30:21.500
She goes, yeah, it just keeps popping up on my phone now.
02:30:35.540
Basically, my whole family is beautiful, so I feel like I'm going to age good.
02:31:03.600
The buildup is just like I know I'm going to be hot like for the rest of my life,
02:31:10.100
Yeah, because the question is just will you be better looking in 10 years' time?
02:31:14.080
You'll still be attractive, but you're saying now is like the peak.
02:31:32.120
Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
02:31:42.120
Because, yeah, you're 20, so better looking at 30, better looking at 40.
02:31:59.340
It's just because my family, they age, like, fat and, like, like.
02:32:08.940
No, like, what I mean is that, like, my family, they start to get all, like, depressed and,
02:32:16.040
Like, they let go of themselves in a way of not even just physical appearance, but mental,
02:32:23.480
Well, skip Madison, because we've heard her answer a million times.
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Do you think you'll be better looking at 36 than you are now at 26?
02:32:46.460
Possibly, because maybe I'll be more fit and work out more, because I don't really work out a lot right now.
02:32:50.840
What about in 10 years' time, another 10 years' time, so 20 years, 46, as compared to now at 26?
02:33:00.500
And then do you think you're better looking at 18 as compared to now?
02:33:09.340
I think I will definitely look very attractive when I'm older, but I think, as of right now, this is my peak.
02:33:20.260
I think I'll age well, but I don't think I'll be better looking at 32.
02:33:27.100
So I think it was just you and you that said better looking in 10, 20, 30 years' time.
02:33:55.720
Actually, I mean, there can be arguments that can be made.
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I don't fully buy into, like, the whole, like, across the board, men age like, that whole men age like fine wine.
02:34:05.480
I think there's differences between men and women.
02:34:07.940
There's definitely differences when you look at actual, they've done studies, and they'll have, like, women across all ages appraise men of various ages.
02:34:16.440
And you have men of all ages appraise women of all ages.
02:34:19.100
Women do have a tendency to, like, find men around their age a little bit older as the most attractive as they get older, whereas men, it tends to stay pretty static throughout their entire lives.
02:34:33.280
In terms of what they find most physically attractive, I think they typically put it between, like, 20 and 22.
02:34:38.800
I like older men, so I think guys just get more attractive.
02:34:45.680
But, I mean, there's plenty of guys who also don't.
02:34:49.120
People do let themselves go, but, like, if you're a fit, like, you know, Equinox, like, 48-year-old, you're my type.
02:34:55.620
Like, I think I was better looking when I'm 35.
02:34:58.480
I was better looking when I was 25, to be honest.
02:35:01.640
Even if I was, like, the exact same weight, I'm pretty confident I was better looking at 25.
02:35:06.660
I think you can make yourself as attractive as you want, like, your goals.
02:35:14.700
I think if somebody works out and gets the type of body they want, their confidence goes with their style.
02:35:26.680
I think everyone's attractive, but they just have to put the effort in.
02:35:32.860
I don't really feel like arguing that, but I think there's just some people that are kind of doomed.
02:35:43.100
Anyways, it's not really worth arguing that one, but did you have more of any more inquiry, Andrew?
02:35:50.240
I mean, I think that that is worth arguing a little bit, right?
02:35:59.540
I'm saying if you put in the work to be attractive, you can't be, like, the grossest looking person and have confidence.
02:36:05.880
I think confidence and effort go together hand in hand to get that attractiveness.
02:36:11.040
Like, if anyone here, like, I'm not saying anyone's bad.
02:36:14.020
I'm saying if anyone here wanted to, like, completely get just, like, ripped at the gym and, like, dress better, like, you could get there.
02:36:52.040
I don't even disagree, but I think that it is mitigated by your physical characteristics more than anything else.
02:36:59.180
So, I think that your attractiveness is going to be your physical characteristics.
02:37:03.880
But then other kind of, like, subsets, like maybe a good sense of humor, confidence level, things like that, I think that those matter, but to a way lesser degree.
02:37:18.020
I think confidence is attractive, and I like, you know, different features than you might like and everyone else likes.
02:37:28.240
I'm not disputing that everybody's going to have different tastes.
02:37:31.720
They're all going to have different preferences, this kind of thing.
02:37:33.880
Some men like brunettes, some men like blondes, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
02:37:38.620
However, there are beauty standards and characteristics.
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Which we can all agree we all pretty much want.
02:37:48.060
Raise your hand at the table if you would like to increase your weight.
02:38:04.140
So, clearly, you must think that thinner is more attractive, right?
02:38:12.720
And if these are universals, then there has to be some things that we're all basically agreeing on when it comes to physical characteristics.
02:38:19.000
I think it depends on who you're asking because there is, like, that little subgroup online that's interested in larger women.
02:38:30.420
So, I'm not disputing that there's going to be outliers to this.
02:38:33.400
I'm not disputing that there's not going to be like...
02:38:35.940
There's some guy out there who wants a double burn victim who has her tongue hanging out through her teeth and a hunch on her back.
02:38:43.860
I'm sure that that guy exists somewhere on this planet, okay?
02:38:51.380
I'm speaking to just kind of generally what people find attractive in other people.
02:38:56.200
So, while I can say I think that men definitely prefer blondes or brunettes, I think that they still prefer them to be on the thinner side.
02:39:07.840
I think that there's, like, going to be some universals there, right?
02:39:13.320
Like, not all the time, but most of the time you can work out and get that skinny body.
02:39:17.760
Like, you earn those things is what I'm getting at.
02:39:20.420
Like, you're not born and you're not destined to have these things.
02:39:25.680
If you want to have brown hair, you dye your hair brown.
02:39:32.180
That's what I'm getting at is you could change your scale.
02:39:35.100
I'm just saying how much of that does confidence play into?
02:39:37.920
And I'm not confident that it plays into a lot.
02:39:40.260
So I would say that a person, for instance, on the woman, hang on, hang on, let me finish my point.
02:39:45.480
I would say on the person's side where, let's say that they're not very confident, a man is not very confident, but he has very chiseled features, he's tall, and he makes a lot of money,
02:39:55.700
that women will still find him more attractive than they will a short, bald guy who's fat.
02:40:00.360
I was hanging out with a guy that was perfectly my type, but he was so, he was, like, also a crier.
02:40:08.820
He was also, like, oh, my God, I'm fat, I need to lose weight, and he was so unattractive to me.
02:40:15.940
Yeah, I know, but you were hanging out with him, right?
02:40:18.460
We stopped hanging out because he got too much.
02:40:20.060
Yeah, but you were hanging out with him, right?
02:40:24.420
Yeah, but you were hanging out with him, which means the physical characteristics trumped, at least for a time, the personality.
02:40:32.520
Yeah, but it was unattractive to me how he acted.
02:40:35.200
Sure, I'm not saying that it couldn't, that there couldn't be things very attractive people do, which are so annoying that it'll drive you away from them.
02:40:41.720
I'm just saying that the key quality that we're looking for, seemingly, is there has to be some sort of attraction.
02:40:48.100
So even if this guy was super annoying and you ditched him, you were still with him, right?
02:40:52.380
You were still with him for at least some length of time based on the fact that, like you said, he was totally your type, right?
02:41:00.680
I mean, but, yeah, I'm saying the confidence would have made him more attractive.
02:41:04.900
Yeah, I'm sure it would have, but to what degree, right, to what degree, because the thing, the reason you were with him is because of these other characteristics besides that thing, right?
02:41:18.660
Yeah, I think the way you talk, the way you walk, if you go around thinking you're the baddest in the room, I think that's attractive.
02:41:27.400
And I think that being confident in yourselves gives you this, like, more outgoing vibe to you that, like, changes your perspective.
02:41:37.580
And I'm saying that goes along with how you look.
02:41:41.860
I think it goes along with looks because if you're confident, you stand up.
02:41:46.720
If you're confident, you go outside more and dress, like, in more flattering clothes, like, that fit you better rather than a big hoodie that hides your body.
02:41:54.760
If you're confident, that means you probably have better mental health and you're actively working on how you look.
02:42:00.600
Well, I mean, the confidence can be described in many different ways.
02:42:03.360
Like, there's very ugly men who are very, very confident, right?
02:42:07.020
Perhaps they have some skill set or something like this, which drives the ego up and the confidence up.
02:42:13.560
But ultimately, I'm not disagreeing that confidence is not or an attribute that women would want.
02:42:20.420
I'm just saying that initially, there still has to be the physical attractiveness for you to even give him a shot to even learn what his personality is to know if he's confident.
02:42:32.020
So, I'm thinking, so I think on the category scale here then, we're still looking for physical attractiveness first.
02:42:39.380
I think in regards to, like, dating apps and men dating in general, on both ends with the confidence part, I think that you would have to have enough confidence in yourself to even get on the app or to go out and try to date.
02:42:55.180
So, I think that confidence plays a factor in just your availability on the market in general.
02:43:00.600
Because if you're constantly thinking, oh, I'm not good enough or, oh, I'm not going to even try to date, then you're kind of limiting yourself to the opportunity to get out there and date.
02:43:12.920
So, while I think, like, even for myself, you can better your looks, I think you do have to have some sort of internal confidence to even get to the point of dating.
02:43:25.340
So, the thing is, let me give you an example of what I mean.
02:43:28.920
Let's assume for a second that you could only pick between two guys.
02:43:51.120
Like, and, oh, by the way, first guy, short, bald, fat guy, super confident.
02:43:58.320
I would need to know more about them than their physical appearance and if they're shy.
02:44:03.940
If we're stranded on a desert, I just want to get with the attractive guy.
02:44:11.280
And I think that that's an honest answer, right?
02:44:15.780
I think the honest answer is, hey, look, I'd much rather be with the attractive, shy guy.
02:44:22.760
I would still physically prefer him and that needs to be present, right?
02:44:28.300
I think what I'm getting at is confidence plays a factor and it's not the full thing.
02:44:33.780
I just think it does play a huge factor in how you value yourself and who you go for.
02:44:38.620
I wonder how much it plays because I think it does play a factor.
02:44:44.760
But let's say this is the other reason we use this kind of, like, point scale system,
02:44:49.860
So I think if you're a five as a guy and you're super confident and you do a lot of work on
02:44:55.840
your body to make it physically attractive, you can maybe bump that up two points, you know,
02:45:05.980
I think that for women, going from a four to, you know, a six or a seven, that's really
02:45:15.440
And that's really, it doesn't take much more than that, right?
02:45:19.420
So I still think that physically attractive men, the pool of them is much smaller from what
02:45:25.380
women consider to be physically attractive than the other way around, meaning what women
02:45:59.660
Time takes a toll on us all, an objective reality of how biology works.
02:46:04.500
You've seen those time-lapsed videos of decomposing roadkill, right?
02:46:07.920
Would you rather eat a rotten apple or a fresh one?
02:46:22.500
In my experience, the more money you make, the less a man's looks matter to a woman.
02:46:33.240
Yeah, but then this brings up the question of, is she there for you?
02:46:43.760
That's where the kind of decisive conversation comes in.
02:46:49.780
Like, I don't think it, I think it makes you more attractive because your wallet's attractive,
02:47:00.660
Do you think that's maybe why, like, you also like older guys?
02:47:03.860
Is there, is there actually, but hold on, is there actually anything wrong with women
02:47:19.040
Okay, if you ask the same question of the bald guy and the tall guy, the bald guy has $6 million.
02:47:25.380
The bald guy, or the attractive guy that he said has, like, $10.
02:47:29.140
I'm still going to go for the more attractive guy.
02:47:32.920
Especially if you're stranded on an island, just you three, that money means nothing.
02:47:40.980
So let's assume, like, women are attracted to the money.
02:47:47.680
I don't know if there's actually anything wrong with that.
02:47:51.520
I think there's something wrong with it if it's not packaged together well.
02:47:56.240
Like, if you are an 18-year-old woman, and you're going to date a 70-year-old man because
02:48:01.560
he has millions of dollars, I think that that's a little messy.
02:48:05.180
However, in my experience of dating men who do have comfortable incomes, it's not just
02:48:14.320
That just plays one factor in the entire, like, pie chart of attractiveness.
02:48:20.940
Now, just to be clear, I would hope women care about more than just the money.
02:48:25.700
But, I mean, it would seem like, in the same way that a lot of men are going to see, like,
02:48:30.380
a really stunning, beautiful woman, and, like, that will be the basis of their entire attraction.
02:48:49.640
This is why I would say, if you're a man, I was thinking about this the other night.
02:48:53.340
If you're a man out there, and you really wanted to test this, you just want to see,
02:48:57.200
is she with me because of my money, or is she with me because she actually likes me?
02:49:01.080
I would pull the coming to America thing, and I would go get, like, a ratty apartment,
02:49:06.360
beat-up apartment, and I would present myself as not...
02:49:09.140
You can still present yourself as looking sharp, this kind of thing, but I present myself
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Are you with me for the money, or are you not with me for the money?
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That's why I think guys who make bank, like, millionaires, should take a chick to, like,
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But, like, I guess going back to my statement, I don't think, like, if women become more attracted
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to a guy because he's wealthy and ambitious and successful and has a great career, I don't
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know if, like, what's actually wrong with that?
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Certainly, I hope that she will care about more things than just purely that, but I don't
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see anything wrong with it in terms of it actually being an attraction trigger for women.
02:50:07.640
I think you should definitely like them for their insides, but seeing if a guy has...
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But, like, if that brings up his value, like, yeah.
02:50:33.560
Anyways, what's the next thing, the next react we have to do?
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You were kind of looking at me funny when I said that, like, you thought I was way off
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Well, the rationale is the most successful married couples that I know started off poor together.
02:51:00.400
And when the dude ended up with money later on in life, he knew for sure that the woman
02:51:08.400
And he knew that because he didn't have shit, and she was with him when he didn't have shit.
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So, I just think it seems like a pretty good test.
02:51:24.560
But, guys, apparently Joe Biden, Joseph Biden, is in Santa Barbara.
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I think that's the Santa Barbara Airport, Air Force One.
02:51:36.260
So, we were trying to get him on the show to replace the Daily Wire guy, but unfortunately,
02:51:44.540
Like, I tried to reach out to Camelot to see if we could get Uncle Biden on, but, like,
02:51:51.360
Joe was already sleeping on the beach by then, huh?
02:52:05.860
I don't know if you guys have heard any of the airplanes.
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So, last night, I ended things with a guy that, in one of my previous videos, I had referred
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to as the most intentional man I've ever spoken to.
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It really does suck because he truly is amazing, has a lot of the things I'm looking for in a
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person, but we hung out, like, six or seven times, and I just wasn't feeling it.
02:53:27.900
And it's just really a shame because he really is a great guy.
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If he had asked me for more details, I really don't know that I would have been able to give
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him any besides that shame, but there's really nothing you can do.
02:53:37.980
Yeah, let this be a lesson that being a good guy, nice guy, chivalrous, romantic, green flag,
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you know, emotionally available, intentional with your communications, showing her what a great
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boyfriend you would be, what a great dad you would be, these things don't necessarily
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build attraction, even though women say it does.
02:53:56.000
So, going around the table, have any of you ever had that experience where, on paper,
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the guy had everything, could have been good looking, treated you well, good person, funny,
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confident, good personality, all the things you want, but there just wasn't the click.
02:54:21.640
There wasn't the lightning, the thunder, the electricity, whatever sort of bullshit other
02:54:31.280
Yeah, I think that everyone's gone out with someone who initially the conversation was
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going well, but then in person, you just, like, don't vibe the same.
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I don't think I, I don't think I, just one point for clarification.
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I don't think she said that the conversation was bad.
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I think she just said there wasn't, it just wasn't the, there wasn't.
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She just wasn't attracted to his personality, I guess.
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She said, in fact, that if she had to describe a reason, she couldn't tell you what it was.
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He, she had all the qualities he was looking for, or she was looking for.
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And she did, she just, she just wasn't feeling it.
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You see someone, it's like in a, it's an attractive thing.
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Somebody has been attractive to me, everything, hang out.
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And I think it's because I have a tendency to compare people to exes.
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I think when I want to get in a relationship, it's a pheromones thing.
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And if it's not, it's just me comparing it to my ex and they're not that.
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Just like the comparing women at a table, I compare people all the time.
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My brain is just very judgy, I think, which I'm working on.
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You've been the most honest person at the table tonight.
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I don't think most of the women who are sitting at the table really, I don't think their brains
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function too much differently than yours do when it comes to this.
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I think that they're probably often making comparisons to previous partners that they've had.
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I think that they're often judging the attractiveness of men and women who are sitting next to them.
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I don't think that that's unreasonable to think that that's the assessment.
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People mostly are pattern recognition machines, so why wouldn't they make comparisons, right?
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What is it that some of these guys were lacking that your ex had?
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I miss the time I wasted in the memories, if that makes sense.
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So I think I compare it to the memories we have.
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Like, it was the perfect, like, cookie-cutter movie night.
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We met on Hinge, and we had sex, and got dinner.
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So the history behind it, like, where you compare each moment to the next.
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Andrew, I have done the hiding my success test back when I dated.
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I'm just talking about what it is that you value.
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So I think there's probably plenty of guys who, they don't give a shit.
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They're just like, okay, if you're attracting me based on my money,
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I'm just talking specifically about men who want to have something more
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Can the chat make up a nickname for her that has to do with Avril Lavigne?
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I'm going to cross this down and get Adderall Levine right there.
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Guy's perfect, good-looking, funny, treats you well, good personality, but you just didn't
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In those instances where I didn't feel it, it was only because I was really focused on
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myself and I wasn't ready to try to focus on someone else.
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Like, that has genuinely happened to me before when I was, like, doing really good personally
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and I was like, dang, like, they would be perfect, but I'm, like, still happy with myself.
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So I, like, avoided that to keep my own happiness.
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Yeah, that was, like, my first boyfriend and then it turned out terribly because I went
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But I heard some people have that because they're used to toxic-ness, so when a green
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Or maybe it's just God didn't, it's not meant for them, so...
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Well, I've been told, maybe you can give me your take on this, speaking of the, like,
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Uh, it's been pointed out to me before that women often, when they are presented with a
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man who meets all the green flags for the traits they do want, actually reject him because
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I don't know because I just heard men and women don't like green flags sometimes because
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I'm, I don't know about exactly women doing that.
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Um, I think I definitely have had that type of moment where it's like I'm attracted to
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somebody, they have everything, and then there's something missing, and it took me a little longer to
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realize that it wasn't that something was missing, it was more so that I was trying to avoid the
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perfection or avoid that, like, that fit, and then when I finally allowed it, it was perfect,
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In that sense of, like, I tried to avoid it, and then I let myself actually enjoy it.
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Yeah, it's happened, but, like, I think I can usually, like...
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End up, like, realizing, like, something was off.
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I feel like a lot of girls get scared to get themselves into those type of situations because
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nobody's ever too perfect, and if you're too perfect and you come off like that, like, up
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front, you obviously, like, know that there's something, there's something wrong that he's
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Like, what she was saying, it seems like kind of, like, fake at first, I guess.
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I think that what it really is, is we have a lot of expectations in what we think we
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want in a man, and then when it's presented in front of us, we don't really know what
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to do with it because our perception of what we think we want isn't what we actually want.
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For everyone, what are your takes on love at first sight?
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I think you can be super attracted to someone at first sight and want to get to know them
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more, but full-blown love, I think, might take more time.
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I wouldn't say the one at first sight is real because I fell in love at first sight.
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Yeah, I think attraction at first sight, like, a strong attraction is real, but love is something
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I think your take is possible, but some people get it confused with attraction, so it's hard
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I think not necessarily love at first sight, but the opportunity to love at first sight is
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so that attraction can definitely build into love.
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Yeah, I don't think love at first sight is really a thing.
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Well, I think when it comes to the reason he's perhaps asking this is if you object to this
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idea of love at first sight, then how can you also, like, if that's preposterous, absurd,
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then so too should, like, if you were, if you didn't date somebody because you didn't immediately
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love them, if that was your standard, like, in order for me to date this person, I need to have
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love at first sight. He's trying to make, I think, a comparison of if you refuse to, like,
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pursue something or date somebody because you either don't feel or don't yet feel the so-called
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click, vibe, chemistry, et cetera. Because I'm sure all of you here have dated a guy who you had,
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like, insane chemistry with, insane click, insane vibe. Where are they now? Did it work out? Like,
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was that necessarily a good indicator for this person's going to be a good partner and treat me
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well? I'm sure you all have stories of somebody you had great chemistry with, great vibe, and they
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actually ended up being not, I'm not saying, like, in every instance that you have chemistry or vibe
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or click, that there's going to be, like, abuse or toxicity. But I'm sure you all have experiences
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where you did have the vibe, chemistry, click, but they ended up being terrible for you because it
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possibly treated you terribly. So I don't think it's a fantastic indicator to go off of, of, like,
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I'm going to date this person because of the click or I'm not going to date somebody because they don't
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have the click. I just think how many people date somebody like that and then it just invariably
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doesn't work out anyway, so. I agree that's very likely. I don't deny that that's completely
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likely. If anything, it's just, like, that arousal of feelings and that heightened sensation of,
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this is perfect, love at first sight, and then we fall for these things and it trickles over and
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hides the fact of many minor red flags that we probably just wanted to ignore because of it.
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But I think it depends on also, is that a sensation that you recognize with those
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imperfections that you hope for? If your list includes the perfection of not having, I don't know,
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lying tendencies, then, I don't know, that loving at first sight may be more likely,
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may be successful, but sometimes we allow that to override. Sure. We have a chat here from Jack B.
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Nimble. Girls, if a man is physically fit, eight out of ten looks, six-figure income,
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owns his own house, no mortgage, but is a functional drug user, i.e. uses recreationally,
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off and on. Do you think he's undateable? Yes. What drug is it? I love ten looks, six-figure income,
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owns his own house. Is that wrong? Like, if he's smoking weed, like, shrooms, or are we talking about
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fentanyl? What drug is it? Cocaine. Let's say it's cocaine. Cocaine. Oh, that's fine. No? As long as you
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don't race me, I'm cool. Wait, on and off or routinely? He uses recreationally, off and on.
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Is he undateable? Meaning, like, coke on weekends. Is he undateable? Uh-huh. Recreationally,
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off and on. He's asking for himself, maybe. I don't know. How about heroin? He, like,
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off and on does heroin. Oh, that's a no-go. I've dealt with that before. Yeah? Well, fentanyl,
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not heroin, but yeah. So, I'm just putting it together. Of course. I think it's the level of use
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and what they're using. Like, I think if it's weed and something, like, very light
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like that, or maybe, like, mushrooms every once in a while, something natural, then I
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wouldn't be as opposed. But I think if it's, like, heroin, then no. It's a deal-breaker.
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Well, I mean, I would say, like, I'm talking more about, like, casually, casually shooting
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up heroin once. That's not casual. Once or twice a week. Once or twice is bad. Then that's
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a deal-breaker, at least for myself. Okay. Just checking. If you switch that to coke, I
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think it's fine. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, okay. Preferably not, though. Meth in that, no. Let's see.
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Once or twice is actually hard. How many more reacts do we have, Nick? We have, like, more
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with retweets, and then... Wait, tweets. Oh, let's do dating app. Who, is it just for,
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uh, low cap over here? Just her? Yeah, she has two, I think. Yeah, it's safe. Did you, you
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checked? Yeah, I checked. Okay. Pull it up. It's hinged. Okay. Whoa. Okay. Uh, Lindsay,
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see, together we could, here, you read the prompt. Together we could gaslight and manipulate
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each other for a few months. Heart emoji. Whoa. Nice. Okay. Next. Uh, okay. It says
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I'm 20, 5'4". Next. Next. Wait, is that, do you use, uh... That's just my Instagram. Wait,
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go back. Are you using Pro Tools, or are you, like, an amateur on, like, what's that fruit
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one? I use Logic Pro and Serato Pro. You don't use Pro Tools? Psh. I use Serato. Psh. Psh.
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What? Okay, I'm just fucking... Okay, next. The role of... Next. The best way to ask me out
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this is by threatening me. Is that the last hinge one? Uh... Or is there, there's maybe
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one more? Next. It's just a, it's just a gym pic. Confidence is key, remember? Is there
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another one? Hinge one? Okay. That's my... Yeah. So, wait, there's the threatening me. The
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best way to ask you out is to threaten you. So, like... It's a joke. Would it go something
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like this? Pulls out a gun. You fucking better go on a date with me, bitch. Like... No,
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it's like, I want, I'm trying to get it so it's interactive so I can see if someone matches
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my humor. Like, they respond with something like, tell me a time. Like, okay, we're going
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to dinner at this time. I don't know. It's just to start, like, a conversation. So, would
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it be... It's not, like, actually threaten me. It's, like, if you get the joke, you get
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the joke and we're together, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Of course. So, would it be something
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like, like, if you don't go on a date with me? I will rain down on a godly fucking firestorm
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upon you. You're going to have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding
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resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you. I am talking scorched earth, motherfucker.
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I will massacre you. I will fuck you up. Like, is that the kind of threat that you're
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talking about? No. It's not. I don't want to be threatened. It's a joke. She's looking
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cutesy. It's cute. It's, like, threaten me, you know? It's demure. It's demure. Oh, that
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thing. It's threatening. Wait, can somebody explain the demure thing to me? I don't get
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it either. What is the... It's this creator named Jules on TikTok and she just made, like,
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a funny video, kind of making fun of her own life experience where she got, like, a job
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at, like, a restaurant or a retail store or something and she's just making fun of
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herself going, like, see how I come to work, ladies. And it's just... It's funny.
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Brett Cooper on the Daily Wire talked about it. She said, Brad, summer's over. Demure season.
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Demure fall. Yes. I love her. All right. I love her. And what was the first one? Gaslight
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each other for a couple... Gaslight and manipulate each other for a few months. Because people
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on dating apps sometimes are, like, weird, you know? So it's just, like, together we could
03:12:13.660
do this. Like, have a toxic relationship, basically. Have you ever manipulated the
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guy? Mm-hmm. How? And a girl. How? More. What? More the girls? You manipulate the girls
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more? I don't try to... I'm so sweet. I'm so sweet. Like, I'm, like, a pay-for-dinner.
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Like, let's go on, like, a fun... Stop the cat. That's my last name. She's a certified
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lover girl. I'm literally, though. I love Drake. But...
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unconfident when I did so. Like, you just hit it and quit it? Did you hit it and quit
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it with the chicks? Somebody went to my roommate's room and goes,
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is she actually going to text me in the morning? And then my roommate goes,
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don't count on it. Brutal. Yeah. But I'm so sweet.
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Can you read this, Maddie? Exactly. Thank you, Brian.
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And seems like love, a facade on the surface. True colors are shown in the most unlikely
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of instances. Lusting after others instead of truly loving one. Flesh instead of heart.
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That was beautiful. Killa of Serial. Thank you. Serial Killa. Are you on the Discord Killa?
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Let me get... I need to get you a special role on the Discord. Send me a DM on Discord if you
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are. If you already are, sorry, I'm, like, I have hundreds of DMs on IG, hundreds of DMs
03:13:33.560
on Discord, so it's hard to keep track of everybody.
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We'll go through it. We'll see how degenerate it is.
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How strumpet... How strumpet... I haven't been saying strumpet...
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I need to reintroduce strumpet again. Strumpet, boys.
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I feel like 10 on the, like, authenticity scale.
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You're going to get, like, an e-boy who paints his nails black and...
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If I get boys, I do that in person when I go out to, like, clubs and stuff.
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Oh, you only date the girls on the dating apps?
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Only on dating apps, but I'll go for guys in person.
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Let's do one more react, then I'll get back to pre-show notes.
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So, do you guys think that, here's the content, maybe a bit of context here.
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Do you guys think that it would be nice if, because I've heard this complaint from a lot of women, if guys like came up to you in person.
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Like, not sliding into the DMs, not on dating apps.
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Like, you want a guy to come up to you at Trader Joe's.
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Because I've heard a complaint from a lot of women, especially some older women who have had the experience of, like, pre-dating app, pre-social media a little bit.
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Where it's like, yeah, guys used to come up to me way more.
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So, would you guys like that, for guys to, like, approach you in person?
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I've had people do it, and I'm just not really a fan.
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You want them to, like, slide into the DMs, be like, how many fancy seafood dinners for you to be my bedroom acrobat for years?
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My thing is that I'm usually in a relationship, so I would just like to have a ring and not have anyone talk to me in person.
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I still don't want people coming up to me in person.
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Going around the table, though, do you want a guy, you'd prefer a guy to come up to you in person?
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Or you prefer a guy to slide into the DMs and say something like,
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I would drag my balls through 1,000 miles of broken glass shards just to hear you fart through a walkie-talkie.
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The cute ones in person, because the other ones have more confidence, and they always come up to me in person.
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I'm like, I'm sorry, and I feel bad, but the cute ones are in the DMs.
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And meeting in person is better, because it's organic.
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And then this is the, I have not done this since the Obama, no.
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I have not done a clean and jerk since the Bush administration.
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Okay, well, you were talking about wanting to lose weight.
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That's part of how I've lost weight is weightlifting.
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A lot of girls say, I'd like guys to start approaching in person.
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I wonder if there's a way to find the original video and see, like, the big version of it.
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So, like, they didn't say, like, get the fuck out of here.
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But, like, girls are not super warm if you approach them.
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Isn't that how you are supposed to act when you do have a boyfriend, though?
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No, but girls got that shit in the pocket, even if they don't have a boyfriend.
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Like, they're, like, one step away from just, like, pushing your face away.
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Just, like, get the fuck out of my business, son.
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Like, obviously, they're just not warm in general.
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But, like, he's also going to a group of girls.
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Yeah, a guy hit on me and my friend next to each other.
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And then my friend right next to you, he goes, can I get yours?
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I don't think there's anything wrong to, like, do the switch.
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If you go up to a girl and she's with her friend and you shoot your shot and she turns
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I'd be, like, if they're, like, yes, then it's, like, in the back of their head.
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Yeah, it's confidence, but you don't like it, right?
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Ava, could you, or Maddie, could you read this one?
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Just stack you all up on a pallet and give a, get a warm-up in.
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My pecs would be, yeah, because there's, like, nine people at the table, you know?
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It was a little, I thought we said we were going to re-evaluate it.
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It was just, my pecs would be so taught, you could bounce a silver dollar off them.
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I don't know, but we know Star, Star, you're a Christian, right?
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He said he was really curious what your denomination is.
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I'm a Christian, too, and I do want to let you know, okay, all right?
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I was never taught that there are other kinds of Christian, or, like, whatever they're talking about.
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It was always just, oh, like, you are a Christian, so I feel what you feel.
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I mean, there's also just churches that are non-denominational.
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There's distinctions in theology between Christians.
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So, for instance, some Christians believe, well, almost all Christians believe in the Trinity,
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but there are sects that call themselves Christians who are Unitarians.
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They don't believe that Jesus Christ is God, but just think he was the Son of God, et cetera, et cetera.
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There's Mormons who believe that Joseph Smith came and was a prophet.
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There's Jehovah's Witnesses who have a completely different doctrine.
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Though I wouldn't even call those Christian sects, but even within kind of mainstream Christianity,
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you have Calvinists who believe in predetermination.
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And, yeah, so there's distinctions in theology.
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Well, Jewish wouldn't be Christian definitionally.
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I'm talking about just people who identify as being Christians.
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It seems like you're open-minded, though, when it comes to Christianity.
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Well, you've, there's a distinction between how Orthodox Christianity and Catholic Christianity,
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which is the original, we fight amongst ourselves about which was the original, right?
03:25:13.220
But there's a distinct way in which worship occurs there that is completely different than probably what you're used to.
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I'm guessing you go into a building, you sing some songs and flap your hands around,
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and then a guy comes up and he preaches for a while,
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then you flap your hands around a little bit more, and then you leave, right?
03:25:33.380
Yeah, that's totally, so that's totally different, 100% different than how Christians actually worship.
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It's a whole, whole different, different form of it.
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Well, well, no, God wants to be worshipped a certain way.
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Like, for instance, you have to acknowledge he's God.
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So if he acknowledges God, then you would already be worshipping him a certain way, right?
03:26:07.560
Yeah, well, in Psalm it says to sing to God, too.
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Sure, but are there distinct ways that God asks you to pray to him,
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and how God asks you to conduct yourself in church, and how God asks you to do things?
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Like, for instance, inside Protestant churches, there's often female preachers.
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Female preachers are not allowed inside of traditional Christianity, period.
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So there's lots of distinctions that are like this.
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Like, we didn't hear about any of the different ones.
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I was just raised Christian, but I didn't feel, like, faith or the presence of God until, like, two months ago.
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Andrew, do you think she should explore, like, just cut through the BS and just, like, explore Orthodox Christianity?
03:27:21.740
Do you think she should just, like, rip off the Band-Aid, jump into the pool, like, cut out all the kind of, like, heresy churches and go straight to Orthodox?
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If you want to experience what real Christianity always was, yeah, I would go check that out for sure.
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It'll open up a whole different window in your spiritual journey.
03:27:52.320
Well, yeah, we would have different definitions and different ways in which we would describe what that means, though.
03:27:58.320
When you say fruit of the Spirit, this is not, we can't look at these as being kind of subjective metrics, right?
03:28:07.240
There's objective ways to determine what are fruits of the Spirit.
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So you can't just be like, well, you have the Holy Spirit.
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If you read the Bible and you think it says one thing and somebody else reads the Bible and thinks it says another thing, how do you know you're right?
03:28:25.840
Yeah, but if they say they have the Holy Spirit and you say you have the Holy Spirit, who's right?
03:28:44.760
I read the Bible myself and I also interpret it the way I, you know, understand it.
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So exegesis is you read the Bible and you have the Holy Spirit.
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The Holy Spirit is speaking through you as you interpret what the passage means.
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And somebody else who's next to you, he also has the Holy Spirit and he interprets it to mean something else.
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How do you determine which one of you is correct?
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How do you know that you're not wrong and he's not right?
03:29:18.740
But I just feel like if you were to, if your religion, I mean, kept you in God's presence, why do you practice variance every day?
03:29:33.480
It seems like a fleshly thing rather than living in the spirit, which is, you know, trying to live with love, joy, happiness, self-control and all those things and being nice to people.
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There's a time and a place for passions, but you're not supposed to live inside of passions.
03:29:55.340
That's antithetical to Christian ethics is to live inside your passions.
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It's about living in the spirit and not in flesh.
03:30:10.640
There's a whole thing about living in the spirit.
03:30:12.880
Like, how would you instruct somebody to do that?
03:30:14.940
Well, you would see the part where it says that is the flesh, which is sexual impurity, wrath, variance, like all the...
03:30:26.440
Yeah, but 500 different people read that and come away with 500 different interpretations.
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Because I'm not saying that I'm completely correct.
03:30:40.660
I'm saying that I'm still learning, but you act like you know everything.
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We have what's called apostolic succession, which goes all the way back to the original apostles of Jesus Christ from the church with an unchanging tradition.
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And by the way, my church were the ones who put the Bible together.
03:31:34.860
I think being loving is important, and I don't feel a lot of love in your spirit, Andrew.
03:31:53.560
By what capacity can you judge somebody's spirit?
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If you don't know that in your heart, I can't explain it to you.
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So you know my spirit, and you can judge it through a screen based on a couple of minutes of exchange?
03:32:38.020
The everything is spirit energy, and then I can learn how to judge it.
03:32:48.600
I feel variance, and I refuse to argue with you anymore.
03:32:50.560
But I listen to the determination of somebody who doesn't feel the Holy Spirit coming off of me
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when they just got done explaining to me a heresy.
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A literal heresy that you judge people based on energy that's coming off of them.
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By the way, does your church have a female pastor?
03:33:27.200
But I don't care to argue with you much longer.
03:33:33.640
You just said that I have no Holy Spirit, right?
03:33:36.420
So, and I don't know what you're judging this metric by.
03:33:39.660
Can you tell me, though, now that you know that there's a female pastor there,
03:33:45.560
Because, I mean, clearly that's a heresy at least, right?
03:33:52.820
I'd have to figure that out and judge it myself.
03:33:58.760
Yeah, even Protestants don't believe that there's supposed to be female pastors.
03:34:02.280
But I also, I mean, it also says that women should be submissive.
03:34:06.240
And another pastor said that that was written back in a time where people were more misogynistic.
03:34:13.000
And people weren't treating women way worse back then.
03:34:15.260
And he believes that men and women should put each other first and submit to each other.
03:34:19.840
And I think that's true love is putting the other person first.
03:34:27.560
So, then how do we judge what is real Christianity?
03:34:31.700
Like, can I worship the devil and be a real Christian?
03:34:34.120
Can I worship the devil and be a real Christian?
03:34:36.200
What would make me not a real Christian if I said, I worship the devil, but I'm also a Christian?
03:34:50.700
My question is, if a person told you they worship the devil, but they're a Christian, what criteria would you apply that they're not?
03:34:57.900
As a Catholic, I would say, well, that doesn't align to what that was.
03:35:08.300
What criteria would I judge if someone's Christian or not?
03:35:13.240
I mean, I can't judge people because people say they're Christian, but then they have premarital sex, or they do a lot of sins, and they don't actually follow the Bible, but at the end of the day.
03:35:28.420
You're saying, you're doing things which Christians aren't supposed to do, right?
03:35:38.540
All the time I judge what people are doing, whether or not it's part of Christian ethics or not, and I think all Christians are supposed to do that.
03:35:46.560
We're supposed to judge based on Christian ethics.
03:35:49.020
That's how we know what we should do, what we shouldn't do, and if people are doing what they should be doing or not doing, right?
03:35:55.740
I'm just asking, what is the standard for which you would even use to apply to tell a person who said that they worshiped the devil and were a Christian?
03:36:06.160
You can't worship the devil and be, would you even say that to them?
03:36:24.520
Is that in the first book of Nice, chapter four?
03:36:27.780
And I find that, is that in between Corinthians and Timothy?
03:36:37.460
I have nothing but love for you, and I don't wish to proceed on this conversation.
03:36:40.020
You sound like you have nothing but love for me.
03:36:44.340
You should probably end this the best Protestant way and just say, I'll pray for you.
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I mean, we know that that actually means fuck you, but you could say, I'll pray for you.
03:36:59.440
And just like curious, like, I know you have, you feel your way or whatever about Andrew,
03:37:08.960
As a former Mormon, Joseph Smith was the first prophet since the apostles, but first and
03:37:14.800
foremost, the Lord Jesus is our Savior and Redeemer.
03:37:26.320
That's how you know that the Mormon church is a great heresy.
03:37:32.900
The stoic Roman, like what you had your, like you've, you didn't feel, what did you not feel
03:37:41.220
Like you said, like, she said, you got bad vibes from Andrew.
03:37:44.840
He doesn't give off the loving energy I'm used to.
03:37:53.260
Like, am I kind of like giving off that like dark, sinister, toxic vibe that Andrew's giving
03:38:00.900
Can I just, can I just ask two, two quick follow-up questions?
03:38:06.560
Do you think that it's okay to be LGBTQ and Christian?
03:38:10.960
Do you think that these are okay to, to, to put together that it's okay to be LGBTQ and
03:38:17.440
I don't think I have to answer that because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, so
03:38:29.040
And everybody said, okay, and I said I'm not answering your question.
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Aren't you supposed to defend all arguments and defend your faith against all people who
03:38:38.640
oppose anything that has to do with, that's your job, right?
03:38:42.540
You can't, you can't speak the truth of your faith?
03:38:54.560
I'd like her to answer the question, is it compatible with Christianity or isn't it?
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I know it's hard for men to take no for an answer.
03:39:01.760
I know it's hard for women to answer questions so they evade constantly, but I'd like for
03:39:07.000
Well, you're not going to get an answer because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
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So I'm not answering further than that, Andrew.
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I mean, I don't know why suddenly you can't make a judgment.
03:39:23.880
Bet Pinky would accuse John the Baptist of not having a loving energy if she read anything
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But the thing is, okay, then I just have one more then.
03:39:46.700
If that's compatible with Christianity, what if a person does not believe that Jesus Christ
03:39:57.080
That's not what we believe at our church and what I understand of the Bible, no.
03:40:08.900
Okay, but don't you think that that's going to hurt the feelings of the people who don't
03:40:19.060
Well, I even think Jehovah's Witnesses might even be Trinitarians.
03:40:23.380
I'm not sure, but the people who are Unitarians, who don't believe in the Trinity,
03:40:27.440
isn't that going to hurt their feelings that you just said that?
03:40:30.400
It's not my intention to hurt anyone's feelings.
03:40:33.260
But now that we've established that you can answer those questions, what about LGBTQ?
03:40:40.280
I think that would hurt people's feelings more, so I'm not going to answer it.
03:40:45.520
Oh, by the way, guys, by the way, moving on to a different topic.
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Don't mean this to be rude, but Christianity absent the Eucharist is like it whatever without
03:41:28.060
Well, they didn't correct me because I said I didn't know for sure, but yeah, that's my
03:41:33.000
understanding, too, is that they're Unitarians or something, some variant thereof.
03:41:43.460
Oh, so the literally shaking rage quit from earlier, we're going to make that available
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for your viewing pleasure either tonight or tomorrow, discord.gg slash whatever.
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And Nick, if you're able to get the BTS tab pulled up over there on our Discord.
03:42:06.820
So this is our Discord, discord.gg slash whatever.
03:42:14.680
So I'm going to post it in the behind-the-scenes portion, and then the most recent one that
03:42:21.660
I've got a backlog of some BTS kickouts or whatever.
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I don't know if you guys haven't heard of that, haven't seen it.
03:42:36.160
Andrew actually told me he's never done therapy before, but he actually has gone to therapy.
03:42:41.440
to seek coping strategies for the assault, the attack.
03:42:47.720
So best wishes and prayers to Andrew's recovery from the...
03:43:15.920
Whenever you're in an argument with a Christian, right?
03:43:19.460
Or somebody who's identifying as a Christian, you're just usually Protestants.
03:43:22.320
And they say, when you're arguing and they're wrong or something like this, I'll pray for you.
03:43:32.680
Does he have any info about like deliverance like she had discussed earlier?
03:43:45.320
Guys, it's been two hours since we last got a Prime.
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Thank you, Whack Attack, for clearing up the bug there.
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Drop us a follow on the Prime sub over there on Twitch.
03:44:08.880
So let's get through the rest of the notes here.
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Dating apps complicate but also help current dating.
03:44:22.700
Having a dating roster, talking to multiple men at once
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I think that a lot of men date multiple women at once
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and that women should also probably be dating multiple men at once.
03:44:40.680
I think having a roster that you're not sleeping with
03:44:46.860
just to kind of have different options, I guess.
03:44:50.480
And just kind of like see who you're a best fit with
03:45:00.520
Who do you think has the ability to be dating multiple people?
03:45:06.240
Like who has a better ability to do that, men or women?
03:45:11.440
Ergo, women should do it too because men do it.
03:45:19.080
I mean, in the talking stages, in the dating world,
03:45:23.800
I think that some people only talk to one person at a time
03:45:28.040
but I think majority of people who are looking for a long-term relationship,
03:45:32.220
they go on dates with multiple people at the same time to kind of feel it out.
03:45:49.440
If a woman wants to pay for herself on a date, she can
03:45:56.620
Because of what I said before, there's chivalry.
03:45:59.100
Men, a lot of men still want to, at least for the first couple dates,
03:46:08.160
No, none of them anymore want to pay for dates anymore.
03:46:12.200
Well, then they're probably not getting second or third dates.
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I'm doing this big favor to them by allowing them to embrace
03:46:33.280
But as it turns out, that's not really the case.
03:46:36.340
The case is that you just want to pay for the date, right?
03:46:45.240
if a man doesn't pay for the first or second date,
03:46:47.760
they think, oh, maybe this guy is just interested in being friends,
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oh, we're going to be going 50-50 on everything
03:47:02.800
then what makes me think this man's not gold digging after me?
03:47:08.140
Yeah, but I mean, if he's going 50-50 with you,
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I don't understand what's the actual problem with that.
03:47:14.360
On the first couple dates, I think a lot of women,
03:47:20.120
like, oh, I don't want to spend all this money on this girl,
03:47:22.600
but you know that if they were with their dream woman,
03:47:25.640
then they would have usually no problem paying the entire thing,
03:47:31.340
Well, couldn't you just reverse the logic there and say,
03:47:38.720
Personally, my dream man would not have me paying for everything.
03:47:46.900
but couldn't the logic itself be applied the same way?
03:48:13.360
So how is the idea that you want them to pay for the meal
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I think it's somebody who would never had a chance
04:51:55.460
I'd ask somebody I'd be like what do you do for work and then you'd say what he does for work and you'd be like oh I do this and then you're like oh cool like what brought you into that and like
04:52:03.500
black shirt rocked and burped that's all for 90 minutes green flag chair one has crazy demands but admitted to renting her nepa boyfriend's parents house and doing porn stop Ryan relinquish or wait relinquish I think
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wave you're yeah can't the hate Hee and Elawhaabik OK
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leave you're right wave you're right wave your right wave your right is perfect thank you for highlighting my green flag
04:52:44.820
i don't know when the last time she wore this hair and dress but i do like her music
04:52:51.000
thank you next okay appreciate it psycho appreciate it so look all i'm just saying
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yeah you can still get the treatment plenty of guys will still do the treatment
04:53:05.620
but uh i'm trying to introduce a new paradigm what's that wait oh anybody remember those like
04:53:13.680
90s oh wait the nine i'm sorry this is totally unrelated i'm just like autism attacking
04:53:20.360
cynodyne a new paradigm and anybody know what i'm talking about andrew wilson
04:53:27.500
the only paradigm i know is the rehab i went cynodyne a new paradigm wait how's it go hold on
04:53:36.220
god damn wait it's cynodyne a new paradigm oh it goes cynodyne a new paradigm in cinema
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you're alone on this one i don't know where that came i hate to leave you hanging but i just never
04:53:52.820
heard that like movies when you see a movie someone in the chat will relate i bet you know that thx
04:53:57.900
sound yeah yeah the audience is now deaf yeah yeah that's not how it goes sorry that's not how
04:54:04.760
it goes i don't know how it's like the film stuff coming yeah wait do it do it yeah wait do it it's
04:54:10.540
it starts with like a low a low v and then it wait do it just kind of pitches up can you do it
04:54:15.980
i can't really do it you were just about to do it yeah but i can't really do it andrew don't leave
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me hanging bro i can't i can't do it with you i'll do it with you i'll do it with you i'll do
04:54:27.240
it with you i'll do it with you i'll do it with you let's go it's good it's good but it's just okay
04:54:33.940
hang on hang on i'll just pull up the sound i have no idea what you guys can you find the thx
04:54:41.740
yeah the thx wait is this gonna be like copyright are we gonna get a fucking for the thx thing
04:54:48.080
yeah oh yeah i better not do that actually dang it yeah dang it oh dang it i did the avril song
04:54:55.420
oh dang it i can't do it whatever it's like hey can you do the disney one disney yeah can you do
04:55:04.900
the disney it does it go something like we ruined all our intellectual property yeah basically it goes
04:55:11.260
something like that but you know when like the castle comes on and it has the disney like the disney
04:55:15.300
intro music oh that's mcdonald's that's mcdonald's
04:55:20.640
yeah oh my what is going on okay you gotta wait i feel like i know you are now watching disney well
04:55:28.580
there's a there's actually an old mental exercise right watch this watch this okay so indiana jones
04:55:35.560
star wars right same composer brian you'll be able to hum one but you won't be able to hum the other
04:55:46.900
wait star wars indiana jones same same conductor okay you'll be able to do one but you won't be able
04:55:58.140
to do the other so whichever one you do first you won't be able to do the other one
04:56:02.340
i don't know how it goes i don't know how either of them go but i'm i'm more of like a trekkie to
04:56:11.960
be honest just kidding oh man fail just kidding just kidding i don't watch that shit sorry trekkies
04:56:17.800
wait i think here hold on maybe i can do it like
04:56:19.800
psycho donated 100 dollars rude lindsay you look like you would ruin my life that being said when
04:56:34.700
can the destruction begin i've become too complacent and need some excitement the best way to ask me out
04:56:42.000
is by threatening me so yeah yeah like this though i will rain down on a godly fucking firestorm upon
04:56:49.900
you you're gonna have to call the fucking united nations and get a fucking binding resolution to
04:56:54.320
keep me from fucking destroying you i am talking scorched earth motherfucker i will massacre you
04:57:00.300
i will fuck you up just did it also take you two years to play that one
04:57:05.640
what is this is justin bieber oh like my friends they go
04:57:13.040
can they hear it that's like et or no it's justin bieber it's justin bieber
04:57:20.760
and then wait let me find it's like the the little light bulb
04:57:26.460
the pixar sorry guys this is like wait is this it
04:57:31.320
oh that was good i don't know wait no there's a deeper i don't know if that's it okay whatever
04:57:45.200
i don't know sounds like ai's saying it cynodyne i thought it was way deeper voice
04:57:50.760
the world where the whatever podcast loses all objectivity and starts going off on a derailment
04:57:57.440
which have nothing to do with the show wait andrew can you say can you do in a deep voice
04:58:03.400
cynodyne a new paradigm in cinema cynodyne a new paradigm in cinema you should be it was okay
04:58:12.560
yeah you should do audiobooks i give it a b minus audiobooks like you know the guy that reads the
04:58:18.860
i should do video books you should do the audio audio audio audio audio audio we could have you do
04:58:26.080
that ebooks oh going back to killer of cereal he said most embarrassing date short if you can
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i can't really think of one right now okay what about you girl was gross i went to the bathroom
04:58:42.200
texted my friend to call me in five minutes to say that he needed something i had to drive her
04:58:47.640
back home and she lived 20 minutes from me and i blasted the music so we couldn't talk peace out
04:58:53.900
oh whoops you when you say gross what do you mean like she smelled bad or something all of it
04:59:01.240
everything everything everything photoshopped pictures gross looking and catfish is the word
04:59:08.440
didn't have a car i drove i picked her up i'm a simp for that i drove 20 minutes
04:59:12.620
damn big loser on that what about you embarrassing date as far as embarrassing i think it just depends on
04:59:23.020
the person but i think what was embarrassing is that we both didn't have no money
04:59:29.740
broke yeah no that was embarrassing most embarrassing date um i don't think i've ever
04:59:36.940
had an embarrassing day what about the date where the guy cried for like 12 hours
04:59:41.020
that was beautiful oh so sorry not 12 hours like like that you guys had like a deep 12 hour talk
04:59:48.400
a deep talk that involved crying sounds like a fun time to me okay i loved it
04:59:57.440
it was like a let's go out with the bang 12 hours mia except there was no bang i remember this one
05:00:07.280
randomly the other day um i thought i was talking to the same person i thought they just had two
05:00:12.960
different instagram accounts and then i realized while i was on the date with one of them that they're
05:00:17.300
twins and they look identical and they have the same almost name i thought it was just like a fix
05:00:23.960
on like the username only to find out they're the same almost identical and i only found out because
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the other one texted me while i was out with the brother oh you sent this in the notes right i did
05:00:34.320
yeah i just remembered it recently i was like this is i don't know how i forgot this i feel like
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you're gonna be a great abuela thank you in the future thank you like you have abuela vibes
05:00:46.880
abuela vibes thank you you give me abuela vibes thank you what a compliment is that i think it's a
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compliment i think she gives more mom vibes than abuela vibes chill out madison bro she gotta be a mom
05:00:58.320
first to become that i know but i thought you meant mom in like a kind of sus way mommy way yeah like
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a mommy way mother thank you there's milk mommy and mom i'm abuela let's see okay perfect going to start
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here scatological underscore studies donated one hundred dollars brian would you rather sit through
05:01:21.260
the dnc convention or rock gallock's underwear as your new face mask excuse me i would go to the dnc
05:01:30.240
convention there's no way i'm putting that wait wait you're doing both for free huh he's wearing
05:01:39.320
the face mask to the convention that's right i'm wearing it to the convention this is an unanswerable
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hypothetical it is it is it is unanswerable because yeah you can't pick which one you want you want
05:01:52.120
both it's very difficult very difficult all right thank you scatological studies was it star
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how do you say your last name by the way abelar abelar okay oh you have a beavis and butthead tattoo
05:02:06.780
yeah is it it's like on your leg or something um no it's on my butt oh okay and it's a friendship
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tattoo with my friend from kindergarten oh i thought that was cool but i hate it oh yeah okay
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uh let's see oh did you wait do oh man all i have here in my notes that um maddie gave to
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me apparently there's because she does just um there's one in the pubic area why were you
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looking at that maddie she told me that in the notes yeah is there one you have one in the pubic
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area i didn't tell anybody that you have a tattoo and you're not just what is it what's the design
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oh um i just thought it was funny again i was i was 18 and i was stupid it's a cat
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because it's pussy on pussy and i love cats and now at 26 i don't think it's funny okay but i still
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love cats that's how i look in the mirror every day i'm like that's not as funny as i remember
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forgetting it and matching tattoos are the worst i agree with that i have a matching tattoo so you
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said last guy i dated well or i'll just repeat it really quick last guy i dated was a virgin and he
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helped me feel god's presence while i was dealing with paranormal demonic activity he got me closer
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to god but he didn't work out because he well we talked to he wants to marry a virgin the guy before
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him was also christian but didn't get me as close to god he helped me make me tiktok famous
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and we would make a viral couple videos together okay so you did you not have a tiktok before you
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met that guy no how and how many following uh how many followers do you have on tiktok 11 million
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daniel did he uh did did he have a following on tiktok before you met him uh yeah he had one million
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what was the demonic activity yeah i wanted to ask like the lights accidentally got shut up
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it was just like when i moved into the house i would stay up to like 3 a.m and everyone else
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go to bed early and i would hear like people walking around or banging and i would ask people the next
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day like was that you and they'd be like no and it happened again i'd be like was that any of you
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they're like no and then some of them even heard it too and they thought it was me um and then the
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guy was seeing like he saw we had paranormal activity at his house too miles donated 100
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yeah thank you first time donating been a long time whatever fan thank you w brian w andrew and
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rachel because of the mimicured feminist to the girl in first seat i've sent my hubs roses and beer
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on valentine's day that's like the fucking most awesome thing that i've ever that's the best
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super chat that has ever come in to the whatever podcast on valentine's day roses and beer to the
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like what else could he ever want that's pretty epic brian that's why he's doing me that's why he's
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the goat the goat i'd prefer the recreational cocaine the like every other week one yeah that's better
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than the huh okay you oh the you prefer the super chat uh the the tts about the the coke the
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recreational drug use that was your favorite super chat that came in yeah that's what she's saying
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yeah that's like her favorite one of the funny ones no i meant instead of the beer i'd want never
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oh no oh she's saying she'd prefer that boyfriend that one what's that new synthetic
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which one cocaine pink cocaine oh yeah i saw some news story about that
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or there's some girl went crazy yeah it's pink cocaine it's just like laced with like
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every drug what was the story i read about that what the fudge some girl like took it and just
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absolutely went bonkers wasn't it 2cb or something like that there's a bath there's so much but it was
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like called something like that which is weird i watched a vice on it yeah i watched the vast
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documentary and then i did some pink cocaine okay uh always so demonic demonic activity anything else
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scoot can you scoot into the table just a little bit you can scoot the chair too maybe maddie can be a
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gentleman and help you root okay go ahead oh okay yeah so it was just that and then we had some noises
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at his house so i brought it there and then um i was very intuitive that week and i knew when things
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were off so i called him like i was like is something the matter and in that moment his roommates freaked
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out because that was like the moment they saw a dark figure at their house and they were talking about
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the stuff going on at my house like what do you mean by dark figure like a shadow like a shadow person
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it sounds like me in psychosis oh yeah i was gonna say like though what the fuck it wasn't their own
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shadow wait so you did you saw it with your own eyes no they all saw it i felt that something was
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off and i called when it happened and they freaked out do you have neighbors that could have been doing
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the like the footsteps the no stepping no but um bad spirits huh yeah i mean this happened also to my
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music manager and he's not even spiritual religious so things just happen i had to have a pastor like
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kind of deliver me and things don't happen anymore wait that's what that's what i wanted to ask and
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oh was andrew not here oh yes wait andrew she got an exorcism well it's not like that it's basically
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just prayer and like i had to like face my own demons and deliver out like the spirit of jezebel and
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like like like like the lustful spirit the wrathful spirit i've dealt with mental health a lot so
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i didn't understand there was a spiritual side to it and nothing helps me more than like i went to
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therapy i went to rehab nothing's really helped me more than like we have spiritually praying and
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fasting it out and stuff like that so what was the process for the exorcism it wasn't like a crazy
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process it was just praying and fasting so i just had to fast 12 hours for two days and um we would
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just get on a phone call and then we would just pray no ghostbusters no it wasn't anything like crazy
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just prayer and fasting it's not really an exorcism to be honest well i mean church church going church
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going is is exorcism in a way right i mean i i fully believe the demonic is real i'm a very logical
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person and i usually ground all of my arguments and everything else between logic and the scientific
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method but i still think that the demonic is quite real and i'm glad that you're receiving some
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assistance for any demonic oppression you have but may i recommend you check out an orthodox church
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as the exorcisms there as part of your actual baptism are the real deal i mean i'm just saying
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maybe i can feel too bad i mean yeah yeah i just don't like when people are like forcefully like
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it's just kind of like well nobody nobody's trying to force you to do do anything i'm just engaging in
05:09:48.280
dialogue with you i mean i don't even understand why you're so upset anyway i like we barely said
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three words to each other i don't even know what you're so mad about all the time what are you so
05:09:58.220
angry about i just think you're not very kind to be honest well hang on i'm very kind i'm not
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particularly nice but the thing is is no they're not the same thing kindness is telling the truth
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niceness is lying and that's why they're not the same thing because you said in order to be nice
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that you wouldn't represent the faith properly and you wouldn't claim that lgbtq does not belong
05:10:22.620
christianity in order to be nice that is that is the opposite of kindness kindness is to tell the
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truth on behalf of christ you know they don't belong in christ's church if they do it's in a
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repentant way only leaving that pathway behind but if they're practicing and they claim that
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practicing this uh and being christian at the same time are compatible you know that that's not true
05:10:48.300
but you're unwilling to say it in order to be nice and i believe that that is the opposite of kindness
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so i think i'm a very kind man i think that that's the opposite of kindness what you're doing
05:11:00.140
what did i miss what did i miss i don't like arguing kindness we're trying yeah he's teaching kindness
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versus i go away i go away for like 10 seconds and y'all talking about like he made a suggestion
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that she check out an orthodox church that's all okay um cool so did like your bad spirits go away
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right away after your delivery i mean i'm still in the process of praying and fasting because
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they're still there it's not that they're still there it's just certain like sin that i'm dealing
05:11:44.800
with that i'm trying to like not think so lustfully and stuff like that i feel you i feel you on that
05:11:52.540
it's hard out here to not be lusting make a mockery brian it the deep the demonic is real whether
05:12:01.940
you think so or not i'm telling you it's real no i was just she she said that she's trying not to lust
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and i you know how it is you feel it you know how it is you know how it is um but uh andrew
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do they do exorcisms in in uh orthodox christianity yeah it's not the same as as roman catholicism
05:12:24.680
where you have uh exorcists in this in this type of way so the orthodox church is a continuous lifelong
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exorcism the idea is that sin itself is a sickness so even in your baptism you were exercised
05:12:38.520
this is uh this is what the point of exorcism is this is a lifelong process to um kind of rebut what
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is called the legismi which is the idea of demonic influence which creeps into your thoughts and sin
05:12:54.380
which makes you more susceptible to it so the it's a it's a lifelong exorcism it's not it's not even a
05:13:00.800
one time and done it's every single time you're at liturgy you are exercised that's what taking the
05:13:06.080
eucharist the blood of christ is for amen yo andrew really quick totally not dating related
05:13:17.980
christopher hitchens said that he thinks the most compelling argument
05:13:26.820
for god is the fine-tuning argument yes this is the argument which is stating that if anything
05:13:36.280
is off by any degree anywhere in the universe the universe does not work and that it's almost a
05:13:43.460
mathematical well it is it's just a mathematical impossibility that could spontaneously happen
05:13:48.960
that is the fine-tuning argument there's actually uh it's called the god equation and this there's
05:13:57.320
actual mathematical proofs for this though i usually don't use them because they're very heady
05:14:02.080
and i don't actually understand them all myself and so i i feel like it would be disingenuous
05:14:06.980
argumentation to dive into something that i only have kind of a fleeting grasp of okay uh star last
05:14:15.040
notes from you here you said i think modern dating is cooked i feel like people should date to marry
05:14:19.600
but most people don't even i don't sometimes i feel like both guys and girls should wait till
05:14:24.960
marriage for sex even though i didn't but i regret it i feel if people valued having a soul connection
05:14:30.860
and genuine love before anything else there would be less fighting about gender roles and just two
05:14:37.240
people wanting love and care for each other oh i thought you wanted maybe elaborate or something but
05:14:44.080
it's okay i'm i can move it on a lot i mean like elaborate yeah i guess like um i i do think
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modern dating sucks and like i feel like people should date to marry and sometimes i entertain guys
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because i'm lonely and i know it's hard even though i'm not ready for a relationship but i don't
05:15:05.480
actually date um so i get it it's hard but i think like that should be the intention do you um
05:15:11.100
are your parents still together yeah okay they've been together for like 30 years good times good
05:15:17.880
time going around the table i'm just always curious about this uh just parents still together no yes
05:15:27.440
what about you oh yes yeah still together andrew what about you
05:15:35.840
my uh my parents is that what you asked yes i'm sorry still together my my parents are still
05:15:44.600
happily together nice wait really quick to you this just popped into my mind yes um do you want
05:15:51.780
to get married one day yes will you take your husband's last name sure yeah my last name is very
05:15:58.980
boring and generic so i'm open to taking okay like pretty much any other last name i feel like this
05:16:05.560
was a cop-out hang on i i do i feel like the the answer here is a cop-out so you don't like your last
05:16:13.140
name so that's why you're open to it changing i understand that part uh but if you did like your
05:16:19.040
last name would you then be open to changing it
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yeah i really i don't think it matters that much to me okay what if you had a dope last name and it
05:16:34.140
shannon silver i think my future husband and i would have to talk about which last name we think
05:16:43.880
is better and and then the guy you're dating who you love and adore his last name is
05:16:52.220
i don't think it really matters you take you're taking rumpelstiltskin if he had a preference
05:17:00.120
for his last name then i would take it i don't care either way i don't really like my last
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chris underscore hitchens donated one hundred dollars
05:17:15.100
the universe's fine-tuned constants precise for life suggest intentional design over random chance
05:17:22.760
pointing to a higher power god as the ultimate cause designer and sustainer the only
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my okay so my only concern with this argument is that if you use an argument which is relying on
05:17:38.940
complexity itself it is a fallacious argument so yes it's compelling yes it's hard to refute
05:17:46.040
but i'm not confident that it's actually a really good argument to make this is just my my take on
05:17:53.440
that damn imagine a christopher hitchens andrew wilson debate be one for the ages i would do it and i
05:18:04.520
think it would be fun to do he's he's dead andrew you know i would still do it from beyond if the
05:18:11.880
roman catholics can dig up a pope we can dig up christopher hitchens i see you want to debate him
05:18:17.680
from that i was just making a shot at the catholic i was making a shot at the cat anyway we're all good
05:18:22.180
going to back to shannon you said uh let's see marrying oh uh okay marrying a man who is not able
05:18:32.700
to financially provide it can cause you to live a very unhappy life it can cause sickness and early
05:18:38.680
death in women i have a question for you is there anything else that can cause sickness and early
05:18:45.700
death in women yes there's definitely more than just financial stressors that can cause that in women
05:18:56.060
anything else probably like smoking anything else yeah there's a lot of different things
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anything else yeah like you're taking a shot at smokers there rude that's just it just caught my eye
05:19:10.540
that you were smoking hang on pink hair that wasn't very nice of her to take a shot at a smoker like
05:19:16.020
that was it i don't think you're what you're doing very nice to yourself you know it wasn't you know
05:19:22.400
i think it wasn't really respectful of his identity i think as a smoker he identifies as a smoker i think
05:19:29.900
you owe him an apology i am so sorry that you're a smoker and his pronouns are black i'm really sorry
05:19:35.560
that you work out in her really buff i am working out yeah i've got the video super buff i'm getting
05:19:43.160
there uh so i'm just so sickness and early death in women to marry men who's not able to financially
05:19:53.880
provide yeah it happens but like what about these isn't the life expectancy pretty high for people who
05:20:05.540
don't have a lot of wealth wait hold on i don't even know what i'm arguing here
05:20:10.820
i don't know like some some fucking you got these really old people in like these
05:20:15.560
villages i would say just like just to combat this like there's a higher or there's a greater
05:20:24.300
likelihood of people that are in love that nurture a relationship emotionally in addition to that of
05:20:30.120
the nurturing of finances would outlive those of financial comfort so if you're if you're debating
05:20:37.160
that somebody with financial comfort in a relationship like that a woman that's being
05:20:40.280
supported by a man that she is happier and so she's going to be healthy and she's not going to
05:20:44.480
endure whatever early death it's not one it's not guaranteed at all but two it's just somebody that's
05:20:50.480
actually supported and emotionally involved with somebody else in a real marriage in a real
05:20:53.400
matrimony or relationship long term they're most likely going to be healthier really quick i have to
05:20:58.760
interrupt this task star question star what are your thoughts on the like the geopolitical uh
05:21:04.320
conflict between like the the state of georgia the country of georgia and like russia like the border
05:21:13.000
i wasn't really aware of yeah that like what's going on in georgia georgia
05:21:27.140
what do you mean he's screwing with you i'm confused i have friends i'm sorry i'm confused
05:21:34.320
but they don't talk about it i live with russian girls and i'll talk about it so i'm confused
05:21:39.660
thank you next i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry star i'm sorry star
05:21:46.540
morgan put me up to it it was morgan's fault morgan whispered in my ear she's like brian make a joke
05:22:10.060
so uh also to add i think modern feminine this is from you
05:22:15.760
modern feminism has too much black and white thinking which in my opinion has aided in the
05:22:20.740
male loneliness loneliness epidemic do you think that we need like a little more like latino thinking
05:22:25.840
or like you know native american you're right like i do think it's really like first it was just white
05:22:33.300
and then they introduced like the intersectional black thinking but i think we need to broaden our
05:22:38.480
horizons with feminism and like get some like like half italian like half filipina yeah why not
05:22:48.300
do you speak tagalog by the way um a little bit not a lot did somebody just fart morgan
05:23:01.000
brian you act like you've like never farted in your life no i have farted yeah i know
05:23:08.400
just now no not not just now okay i'm sorry um do you speak can you speak a little
05:23:15.740
if like a white guy step to you i kind of understand a little too are you
05:23:33.680
are you okay i'm good what's going on sorry that caffeine's finally fucking kicking in i've been tired
05:23:41.280
i've been tired the whole show and now right before the end i'm tripping okay would it be hot
05:23:47.140
star if a guy stepped to you like a white dude the most white dude you've ever seen and he just starts
05:23:53.000
like fluently dropping like some tagalog my dad would you be like damn what's up yeah actually
05:24:01.080
well that's crazy because andrew's actually a fluent he's a polyglot he's fluent in tagalog go ahead andrew
05:24:07.720
my dad did that to my mom let's see i'm trying to figure out how to remember pig latin i can't even
05:24:19.840
i thought i could just bounce some pig latin off i thought it would be good but um yeah i'm drawing
05:24:27.040
a blank here brian shit okay yeah well he has to be like early 20s we forgot that part
05:24:36.480
cricket noises cougar oh yeah do you only prefer younger um recently i've been liking younger guys
05:24:48.700
or guys my age i don't know i used to like older guys nick's like 22
05:24:52.520
who's that you think nick is cute nick's a virgin too by the way
05:24:57.480
like funny what do you think can i set you up with nick this is so awkward do you think he's
05:25:08.500
i'm sorry do you think he's handsome i don't want to answer that that's just so weird look nick
05:25:15.920
asked me like he's he's a virgin and he like asked me for help so i'm just trying to help him out i feel
05:25:22.520
like really doubt he's a virgin he doesn't look like a virgin really oh that's not an insult
05:25:27.560
that's judgment that's not an insult boy donated one hundred dollars lindsey you better show up to
05:25:33.540
bouchon on w victoria westy at 8 p.m tomorrow or i will eat the meal i order you then order desert
05:25:40.200
and eat the two boom threatened boom threatened oh and he's skater boy i feel threatened he it's skater
05:25:47.580
boy too like avril levine yeah he's buff he's buff he's buff yeah he's buff leave him alone i'll be
05:25:54.460
there yeah you should go i'll meet you there slap into a slim jim what is that is that their catchphrase
05:26:02.600
are you what's up with those cookies bro whose cookies are those they're like cool right yeah
05:26:08.820
they're not like you think they're late they're good i don't know they're edible it's got the pink
05:26:16.140
cocaine in them for sure two cookies bro and i'm tripping that's not sugar-free good to me where did
05:26:22.900
you get those cookies madison trader joe's tarjay oh target okay okay i've never heard someone refer
05:26:32.100
to trader joe's uh let's see here what do we have to do uh what do we have to do we had a couple more
05:26:37.460
things would you rather be alone in the forest with a random man or random bear
05:26:48.020
i know most people say bear um i'm not sure i guess bear
05:27:03.860
you chose bear last time i didn't make it to this last time oh
05:27:14.420
like a guy with the bear oh i i think a gay guy huh like he got about that joke
05:27:24.980
no like no i'm like an actual animal yeah no a random guy maybe he's sweet maybe we're gonna fall
05:27:31.460
in love huh i said maybe me and the random guy i'll fall in love yeah of course story what do you pick
05:27:37.060
it's gotta be a bear gotta be into them into the mic so that it's gotta be the bear maddie m dog s dog
05:27:44.820
i don't know a bear you can like stand still and pretend you're not there but a man he might be
05:27:52.260
nice so maybe a man yeah isn't it if you stand still with the bear it'll more
05:27:58.660
it depends a polar bear you're done for i like animals so i'm just gonna assume it's a small little
05:28:03.540
bear a little cub animal girl other m dog man okay so wait bear bear i said man no i was pointing
05:28:13.940
oh okay okay yeah i don't know bear we don't have to go crazy we don't have to kill the bear then
05:28:25.380
carve his skin then wear his skin as a jacket you know what i'm saying like
05:28:29.380
then we'll survive that's like a free fur coat cook them up you eat them just why do you pick the bear
05:28:35.220
go crazy um i picked the bear because i've just seen a lot of posts online talking about
05:28:41.380
the horrors of potentially picking a man in the middle of the woods and i just feel like a bear
05:28:55.460
why do you pick bear nick we'll pull up that bear video we have
05:29:00.180
i chose a bear because i kind of know the ways i could die when it comes to a bear but i feel like
05:29:07.620
with a man like there's way more ways that i could die and have to avoid i feel like i would do better
05:29:15.380
with a bear yeah so you like see the online horrors too like the horror stories i've seen them yeah i
05:29:24.820
don't do that i don't do it sounds both that sounds horrible to me nick uh pull up the bear video but
05:29:31.700
like skip it to the point where you see the other bear walking if you know what i'm talking about the one in
05:29:36.580
the cars or the cars do you know what i'm talking about is it gory because i don't like that no
05:29:40.900
it's not gory yeah i don't do that oh yeah you can just play like a few seconds of it so
05:29:47.700
just play a few seconds okay bear walking you see the cars they're kind of moving slowly it's like
05:29:54.740
i don't know if it's it's a i don't know if that's a zoo or probably not a zoo but
05:29:59.220
now i have a question for you would you be more likely to exit the vehicle
05:30:08.100
in that situation or if you just saw like a random man in the the same position as that bear just a
05:30:14.900
random man just kind of crossing the road which scenario would you be more likely to exit your
05:30:20.900
your vehicle a bullet donated sixty nine dollars yes if seat one across from brian came across a
05:30:27.220
bear i think the bear would either run away or fall in love with her
05:30:39.380
um your question was would i rather have a man or a bear at that place near the car so the video
05:30:45.700
yeah the video we just watched in which scenario would you be more likely to exit your vehicle
05:30:51.780
with that bear crossing right there or if it was just like put a man in position of that bear
05:30:59.220
i'm just like why would i be getting out though
05:31:02.580
just would you rather just like just i guess i guess a man why is that well like i could just
05:31:09.780
get back into my car and drive off i guess but with a bear i i don't know i feel like they're
05:31:16.500
more easily able to attack if they're like that close up
05:31:24.020
okay um that's interesting that's an interesting one but i thought the men were more dangerous
05:31:31.220
if i'm like alone in the woods without like a vehicle and i'm like on foot then i think that's
05:31:37.300
a bit scarier to come across like a random guy because in the woods they could have like a gun
05:31:41.860
or something but if you're like close up to them i feel like you can see what they've got going on
05:31:49.620
but a bear is like that close to you i feel like they could attack wait just really quick show of
05:31:53.700
hands who who said bear just show of hands did you say bear star bear star um i i was leaning towards
05:32:01.380
man but i think i think both are scary like i'm scared to be in an elevator with a man sometimes
05:32:07.860
would you be would you be more scared in an elevator with a man or a bear with a bear but i i understand
05:32:14.500
like it's scary i just i don't understand what's the chances like why pick the bear like what what if
05:32:22.340
you're like in like most men aren't just gonna attack you if you're in the woods with them a bear
05:32:27.300
doesn't know not to i just want a bear story see that's valid i want a bear story yeah but if you
05:32:34.420
if it's between the two of them like the chances of a man actually hurting you in the woods or whatever
05:32:40.580
that percent is a bear is gonna kill you like i don't know why men are just as scary as bears it
05:32:49.380
uh would what what do you think the rate rate like the chance of you being attacked by a man is
05:33:02.900
in the middle of the woods or just like day to day so well so here the scenario is it's a totally
05:33:08.820
random man so like you spawn in the forest the man spawns in the forest or if you pick the bear the
05:33:14.740
bear spawns in the forest you guys cross paths what percentage of like because you're obviously doing a
05:33:19.060
risk assessment i think like here's my risk of this potentially happening if it's a man so what is
05:33:25.940
the actual risk assessment what if you put a number to it how many men do you think would be inclined in
05:33:31.060
this situation to uh attack you hurt say you victimize you in some way what percent of men um i would
05:33:44.980
say if we're doing like one out of ten probably like percent percent's better i'd say like probably
05:33:50.580
like twenty percent twenty percent of men what about you bear what do you think wait what is the
05:33:57.700
question chances a man will attack like a chance is a man will victimize you in some way what percentage
05:34:04.100
of men do you think compared to a bear or just a man in general man in general
05:34:20.500
mia what about you out in the wild with a random man 22
05:34:24.980
22 percent actually 18 22 percent 22 repeating like 0.22 repeating no just 18 to 22 percent of
05:34:38.740
damn y'all crazy because it depends on like what you're quantifying as an attack
05:34:47.700
okay but like in general we do have a higher chance of being attacked by men like just an
05:34:52.820
everything well actually a bear well like it is scary all of them i'm scared as a girl i'm gonna
05:34:58.980
take self-defense i'd say there's less than 10 chance a guy will hurt you you carry a what pepper
05:35:04.980
spray oh i was like did we check bags today my dad agrees he thinks i should take self-defense
05:35:11.060
carry pepper spray and a pocket knife so he knows would you get a gun
05:35:14.020
uh oh cannot wait would you date it would you date a guy who owns a gun yeah i don't care okay all
05:35:22.100
right interesting very interesting yeah that's right and you should absolutely carry a gun with you
05:35:34.740
anyways i don't really want to we don't have to get into the bear conversation but we all know that you guys
05:35:45.620
y'all crazy crazy mia's crazy you're crazy absolutely nothing like crazy
05:35:52.980
okay i'll just do my stack then uh let's see tts is 69 by the way if you guys want to get one in
05:35:59.140
pretty sure it should have been swamped so shannon going to you shannon okay
05:36:07.380
do you think it's wrong for a guy to not want to date
05:36:24.420
starting with morgan do you think it's wrong for a guy to not want to date hold on never mind i can't
05:36:30.500
do that say it say a very very buff woman a very what woman buff buff buff woman yeah buff
05:36:46.420
so he doesn't want to date a woman who's really buff
05:36:49.460
a real buff like muscles and fully yeah yeah big body yeah okay oh wait hold on i'm sorry i totally
05:37:05.620
what do you think about this first time ever a girl goes to a dude's house should she do his laundry
05:37:13.140
the first time first time ever going to his house should she do his laundry no
05:37:19.220
bruh okay what about you i don't know the scenario like am i did i get a stain on my shirt hey i'm
05:37:24.340
throwing in a load you want some laundry i'm not just gonna be like he's not you only get to focus
05:37:28.900
on his load your load doesn't matter that's the wrong load for the first day i want to take care of
05:37:35.300
the other road let's take care of the other load leave exactly behind you should always take care of
05:37:40.500
a man's love exactly exactly i want to take care of not not the laundry load though that's not what i'm
05:37:45.540
talking about i get get your mind get your mind out of the gutter get your mind out of the laundry
05:37:53.300
get your mind out of the freaking gutter get your mind out of the dirty laundry is what it is so
05:37:58.500
first time going over the guy's house i don't care if it's your first time second time third time
05:38:01.860
hanging out should you just do his laundry yeah that people do that for me like just do my laundry
05:38:09.300
yes what do you think wait wait people have just done that for you just yeah have men just have men
05:38:14.500
just done your laundry yeah like people like will come over i'll be cooking or something did you peg
05:38:20.020
them after what did you peg them after yeah exactly i took the strap on and everything it was it was good
05:38:25.460
i believe that they help with the load exactly load for load is what we call that honestly if a guy
05:38:31.860
goes over to a girl's house and does her laundry he kind of deserves he deserves a little strap he's
05:38:38.260
probably a feminist if you know what i mean he's definitely a feminist
05:38:50.980
uh what about you should first time going to a guy's house should you be down to do his laundry
05:38:55.780
yes and say yes sir yes sir okay good maddie what about you
05:39:01.860
uh if i really liked him yeah if i thought he was really cute i would do it well you're going
05:39:06.180
over to his house so i'm assuming you'd like him at least okay yeah i would do it yeah first time
05:39:09.940
going there yeah would you do his laundry um if i was like really liked him sure but it just depends
05:39:17.220
how it comes across like if he's like do my laundry i'd be like none no sweet guy i've ever talked to
05:39:22.820
what he's like okay here wouldn't even let me do it here's the scenario here's the scenario it works
05:39:28.820
every time you're like i'd love to i want to show you take you on a tour to my house you don't
05:39:34.900
actually take her on a tour to your house you go straight to the laundry room and you're like
05:39:39.700
here you're nice because you already like it's already been in the wash it just needs to be folded
05:39:45.140
i'm a gentleman i'm a nice guy you take her into the laundry room and you just kind of like
05:39:49.540
look at it and walk out that's honestly not the worst what about like a we both do it together type
05:39:59.380
of vibe let's let's knock this thing out oh no let's get to folding let's do it no you you just walk
05:40:08.580
in there no and then you look at her there and then you walk out of the laundry room
05:40:14.180
what does that mean you what do you mean i don't i don't oh babe i want to take you on a tour of my
05:40:21.300
house like boom boom boom but the first place you take her is the laundry room and then like
05:40:26.340
lo and behold there's it i'm a nice guy i already what put it in the wash it's been in the dryer it's
05:40:33.700
dry needs to be folded he walks out hello we'll do the bow we'll do the bow so oh my gosh you just
05:40:43.300
you just look at her you look here you do it like this you look at you look at her that's her you
05:40:57.300
and then i see that's what you do that's kind of rude he should be like what do you mean that's
05:41:02.500
that's i'm so sorry that's like the gentleman i i i pre-washed i washed it it's already dry i don't
05:41:08.420
know i could have made you i could have been like here's the hamper full of dirty clothes
05:41:17.380
put it in the wash that's such a funny story though this guy had me over and i just folded
05:41:21.860
his laundry and he left me in the room that's like my go-to yeah what a good date it shows if he paid
05:41:28.660
for dinner that's wifey material like is that like the 50 50 like yeah she does the laundry you did half
05:41:34.900
the wash that's what i was thinking about that like i was gonna say like the dinner part but
05:41:40.900
honestly like you already did some of the work do i get a steal yeah i'm a gentleman you're done
05:41:45.220
i'm a gentleman do i get to steal a hoodie no yes out of the you gotta earn that you can't just
05:41:49.940
exactly you gotta earn it if i get to go through his clothes i get the hoodie y'all crazy
05:41:55.620
y'all are crazy wait so would you do it i forgot where we left off the laundry did we get everybody's
05:42:00.820
answer star who where maddie we did star laundry mia would you do the laundry absolutely morgan
05:42:10.420
no morgan bro haven't you learned anything you have to be like oh like i'm so sorry it's such
05:42:15.780
a mess i haven't i've been so busy like i haven't folded my laundry yet that's how i know i would do
05:42:20.020
it maybe you have to like i feel like i would seem desperate if a guy does that i'll get back to you on
05:42:25.780
it i also make girls water my trees i'd probably kill it do you water their trees though no they
05:42:34.900
don't have trees they're bushes what you don't water the bush
05:42:44.260
okay um water the tree where were we what were we
05:42:50.900
wait so you would do it you would do the laundry or no for a first date no i also honestly truth
05:43:01.380
be told like i do think like first time a girl goes to a guy's house she like probably should
05:43:10.260
do a full deep clean of the entire house and i'll have cleaning supplies ready for her
05:43:14.420
gloves i'm very considerate i'll have the cleaning supplies ready the gloves ready new gloves too
05:43:20.820
not like the used gloves they'll give you a rash new gloves you know fancy i i i give her the the
05:43:30.100
star treatment is that a joke have you actually like done that that's really weird energy like
05:43:39.220
i think people should just want to care and love for each other and no i really care and love when
05:43:43.700
they clean my house and do my laundry it sounds so on the first day 100 no it's not transaction it's
05:43:49.300
not it's not no it's not transactional it's not transactional they just do it and they get
05:43:53.860
nothing in return if you clean the sheets after sex what's wrong what it what's wrong with that no
05:43:58.820
i'm they just do it there's no transaction they just do it and i'm like moderately pleased you've
05:44:06.340
like actually had women come to your house on a first date yeah that's a red flag on my part or
05:44:14.820
theirs kind of both what about the yolo girl netflix and no chill netflix and no chill that doesn't sound
05:44:22.100
like a lady to me oh i didn't i didn't hit she had yolo on her vagina it wasn't really lady like
05:44:28.900
i mean you like entertain her he saw that tattoo and he said goodbye okay he said you only live
05:44:34.260
once i'm not doing this i'll just say a lot of these a lot of women are unassuming you don't know
05:44:40.020
look you said you did of you don't disclose to these guys that you did of right away sometimes
05:44:47.060
you don't know you don't know all the details about a girl in this case i
05:44:54.180
you know want to show you're a slob no i want to show i want to show that oh i almost want to frame
05:45:02.900
it the same way you framed it that i am uh i i am uh allowing her to be in her feminine traditional
05:45:17.140
i'm allowing her to be like wouldn't she want to do that like to you're talking about like a
05:45:22.500
hypothetical woman or do you actually have a woman no but it's her privilege to do it but has a woman
05:45:27.220
ever because you didn't you say has a woman ever done it all the time for you yes all the time and
05:45:33.780
where where did that get them i'll look i'll give you gentlemen latina women and asian women
05:45:40.340
i'm just gonna and there's some white ladies don't sleep don't sleep on the white women okay
05:45:45.380
sorry but you invited those women over to do your laundry are you always isn't that a really
05:45:51.380
romantic yeah always clean i'm ocd and like very always cleaning so it's really funny when things
05:45:56.420
are dirty you don't think i think it's really i think you get second dates with them yes all right
05:46:01.540
see the framing the kitchen the framing hold on the framing is completely wrong do they get second
05:46:07.940
dates with me like if they didn't do the toilet probably not do you make them rake the leaves like
05:46:13.860
clean your pool like oh yeah they get to mow the lawn too if the trees die they're gone goggles
05:46:18.900
though right they have to do everything they do everything i just feel like you should make enough
05:46:22.100
money with the podcast to like hire someone and not just like dates no for that but here's the
05:46:26.340
interesting thing free 99 i want a woman who even if i have the money to pay for everything and all
05:46:33.700
that stuff she still does it for free amen okay that's nurturing for you you are allowed to
05:46:41.700
want those two coffees she has to make me two coffees i only drink one i toss the other coffee
05:46:47.540
she does it a little wasteful but okay she does it because it's what you want and she's trying to
05:46:57.060
honestly i feel like a girl who really wants the guy will do it no questions i think i would do almost
05:47:04.660
everything you mentioned except for like mow the yard like i think all that i'm joking about
05:47:09.860
the that's like except mowing the yard but honestly but the cleaning and the laundry and yeah that's
05:47:14.740
all that that's that's the toilet needs to be scrubbed ladies i think i would marry not just
05:47:20.340
kidding i wouldn't do that not if the kitchen's not clean i would deeply like someone who did that
05:47:26.260
she would have you ever had shira seven on the podcast who's that you don't know who shira is
05:47:36.740
i have not had her oh my god i think that you two would really
05:47:40.260
debate well oh she would i don't think she would
05:47:47.300
i think honestly like the biggest thing i look for in a girl is like her
05:47:57.860
that's a really interesting thing to be looking for i think it's a red flag if a guy doesn't have a
05:48:02.660
laundry room in his apartment slash house so it's kind of a flex in california it's a flex
05:48:09.300
i have me too like if you gotta go because i'm not going downstairs peasants yeah exactly
05:48:15.060
that don't have that go to a laundromat for real that shows and if i will do your laundry if you got
05:48:20.340
it in the unit i i had to like carry that like santa yes i'm not doing it like you know what and
05:48:27.700
since i'm a traditionalist i actually i'm actually thinking of getting rid of my laundry machine and
05:48:33.540
washing machine i want her to like washboard that shit and then put them on the uh the hanger things
05:48:39.860
outside she's got a wash yes clothes pins yes that's what i need right andrew
05:48:47.620
absolutely correct thank you only if they pay for the first day has my back
05:48:56.580
always has my back well here's the thing right he's right he's right in a way isn't he um again
05:49:03.140
if you're looking for a traditional relationship and you're going to test a man by asking him if
05:49:07.780
you'll pay for your meal because that's traditional then shouldn't you do as
05:49:11.140
fucking laundry because that's traditional the underscore yellow underscore tattoo donated 69
05:49:16.660
dollars you missed out brian i would have done your laundry and fold your thongs neatly and hit
05:49:22.740
the boat you woo you woo you woo uh thank you yellow tattoo appreciate it yeah i missed out
05:49:31.220
really missed out on you really don't know who shira seven is no oh my god i feel like that's who the
05:49:38.980
fuck is that guy like your biggest op yo yeah yeah all right she can come on you know her not
05:49:46.420
personally but i love her work is she folding his laundry oh absolutely not oh okay no she can't
05:49:53.620
come then sprinkle yeah your your followers are the drizzle drizzle boys yeah no and hers are the
05:49:59.380
sprinkle your drizzle drizzle drizzle she's sprinkle sprinkle that's cool that's cool look all i'm saying
05:50:07.700
is that i do think a woman should be able to come over and churn butter on the first day
05:50:16.100
if she doesn't know how to do that if she doesn't know how to churn butter she ain't the one
05:50:22.500
if she won't find someone who will she needs to find somebody who will knit my clothes make those
05:50:29.220
little dolls without the faces for the kids make me a freaking quilt bitch yes dead ass quilt me
05:50:36.260
bitch don't are you single this chick sounds like an ultra feminist um it would be great to have her
05:50:44.900
on the show tell you know that i'll uh i'll fly out i feel like shira probably has a very high uh
05:50:52.500
body count right no she's married with two kids so that does nothing to disprove i don't think you need
05:50:59.780
to pull up one video yeah all you need is pull up one sprinkle sprinkle just one sprinkle the only
05:51:06.580
place i sprinkle wait never mind oh is that bush get your mind on the spring no wait i'm still stuck
05:51:13.860
on water the trees i thought that was crazy and the flowers listen bro have you seen the karate kid
05:51:22.420
i'm fucking mr miyagi with these bitches bro you gotta come off fucking sand the floor wax on wax off
05:51:29.140
paint the fence with the toothbrush draw the drapes sorry jacket on jacket off are you in a relationship
05:51:36.980
are you single what are you talking about are you in a relationship are you single look man i'm just
05:51:45.540
saying every time i date a new girl my floors are my floors are sanded my fences are painted my cars
05:51:53.940
are waxed okay and my house is painted but you're like alone afterwards so she like wants to hang out
05:52:00.180
with you after no she's really invested now okay and it's sort of like cleaning the house or you
05:52:05.700
do i do my own cleaning oh so you this myself i don't i don't trust okay well i prefer a cleaning
05:52:16.340
assistant so oh my god you didn't answer that's why i have a wife but cleaning assistant i ask for a
05:52:24.820
lot but in return in the case in the case like she gets beat up by some like 80s bullies i will come and
05:52:32.900
defend her framework engineer donated 69 dollars no how is adderall trailer vineyard based wifey in
05:52:40.100
training and free willy so entitled glad adderall will have five to six kids and reproduce her
05:52:46.260
based values and free willy is skipping kids hash breed based kids what that's an awesome hashtag
05:52:55.620
breed based kids yo framework thank you thank you for the uh tts man good to see you in the chat
05:53:01.460
appreciate it brother what were we talking about well you were you were on the topic of uh discussing
05:53:10.740
how you in a very uh karate miyagi like way are going to be protecting your future ex-wife or
05:53:18.180
girlfriend from whatever threats might come her way in exchange for wax on wax off which seems totally
05:53:26.980
the bullies the 80s bullies yes and i will also train her in the art of karate krav maga
05:53:36.260
no karate but like you're are you single are you in a relationship we had we've had women on here
05:53:42.500
who know brazilian jiu-jitsu who can break men's legs not one leg four they can break all of their
05:53:48.660
legs all the legs and all three they're not using no krav maga okay they're using brazilian jiu-jitsu
05:53:55.140
bjj bjj what oh brazilian jiu-jitsu yes that's that's two jays two jays
05:54:07.220
also i also expect if a girl's coming over to my place for the first time
05:54:10.900
that she actually i'm she just brings like a steak already cooked
05:54:19.620
no almost cooked she just throws it on the pan i don't want her pre-making my stuff she got it from
05:54:25.140
the store it's cold and grows by the time like get it all seasoned and prepared just toss it on the
05:54:30.180
grill yeah cooks a nice and then it's good but you got to bring like the plate all set great that's
05:54:35.060
listen that's what i think i deserve because i are you single or are you in a relationship
05:54:43.860
i am not disclosing that because i have security concerns and stalkers so please respect my boundaries
05:54:55.940
hang on somebody said that you were dating desiré cray cray desiré doomsday yeah that's been a meme
05:55:05.380
that's been a meme in the chats brian do you wanna do you wanna address the allegations
05:55:10.820
okay finally i'll come out i will come out and say this
05:55:17.620
you cannot pay me enough money to have sexual intercourse with this woman
05:55:21.380
i we are not dating there's been no carnal knowledge i wish her the best prayers and wishes
05:55:30.820
wishes and prayers we pray over we will pray for her desiré maybe we'll have her back on the show
05:55:38.020
just she look she can come back on the show maybe there's been no carnal knowledge there's been no dating
05:55:44.980
well okay but there's a lot of speculation about this drama that you passed up the last show you
05:55:54.180
didn't talk about there brian a lot of speculation about that drama uh oh maybe towards the end of
05:56:03.860
the show i'll get into the drama but no uh to dispel any and all uh rumors and what what have you
05:56:10.500
no me and desiré are not dating the girl that left at the beginning of this show
05:56:18.740
no no snowflake i wouldn't date her either absolutely absolutely not honestly it's a no-go for sure
05:56:28.660
yeah like she wouldn't do your laundry i know that girl yeah the girl that just left or not just
05:56:34.260
left like at the beginning she couldn't hang with the the questions i would not i would not date her
05:56:40.500
she has a weak weak constitution giovanni jade he donated 69 dollars okay ask which of the women
05:56:47.700
are pro-choice poor favor giovanni jurist doctor thank you bro thank you for the tts who's uh show
05:56:54.420
of hands who's pro-choice what does that mean abortion right no no no catholic catholic girl you can't
05:57:02.260
be pro-choice we've already discussed you can't be pro-choice i know we've already discussed this i'm
05:57:07.300
catholic by my mom and i'm confirmed and everything but i don't necessarily practice all authentically i
05:57:12.820
still have my own personal beliefs i aligned to pro-choice and i think that in any case with pro-choice
05:57:17.940
i think that man and woman those that are involved the couple or not should also be able to make that
05:57:23.700
justified decision themselves both together not necessarily just the woman i think and i honor
05:57:28.420
women as well to also make that choice but i think it should be a joint decision
05:57:31.220
okay hang on i need you to stop real quick say say women and then say woman
05:57:39.940
the woman and the women okay okay women i'm california
05:57:44.820
i'm from california and i can say women answer this how many nudes has desiris sent you brixen
05:57:53.540
whatever your answer i guarantee it's more than anyone else has received
05:58:00.260
she bro she's been messaging me during the show i don't respond to her it's literally walls of text
05:58:07.060
i just don't i don't even read it at this point
05:58:15.460
okay all right well i gotta ask though how can you make the claim that you're a catholic
05:58:21.780
and be pro-choice don't wouldn't you have to either make one claim or the other you couldn't you
05:58:26.660
couldn't say both are true well we've spoken about this plenty of times um i was raised catholic by my
05:58:33.700
mom i was raised agnostic by my dad so i just have a different world view on my you have to pick a
05:58:41.140
you have to pick a lane here right i've picked to not align myself entirely with catholicism
05:58:46.900
as an adult i don't necessarily practice i don't attend church i don't attend mass
05:58:50.900
i very rarely go to church by any means unless there is a certain need do you do porn too i do not film
05:58:57.300
porn now i film i film solo content now but i do not film porn whoa wait you do you do OF2
05:59:04.900
wait you didn't know wait just her and andrew have talked before yeah yeah yeah i do have to move it on
05:59:11.460
from the i can't remember i look i can't remember every gal i've ever talked to on the show no that's
05:59:17.460
okay i don't now that's not a knock against you i just i talked to a lot of various people
05:59:24.020
not just on this show but on my own show um so it's not a knock against you but you can't make the
05:59:30.980
pro-catholic claim and be an OF abortion supporter you can't you can't do it no there's no there's no
05:59:37.460
it's just no no but no i'm not in yang and the whole interaction with everybody else as well
05:59:42.820
in realm of the catholicism and the christian beliefs and everything i only know so much
05:59:47.060
information because i attended catholic school from fourth grade till the end of high school so
05:59:51.780
that's why i had so much knowledge and that's why i was extending into the explanation of certain
05:59:55.700
things and then oh you mean yeah okay well that's fair if you're just critiquing their world
05:59:59.220
view yeah like i'm just so if you're just if you're just critiquing the world view because you
06:00:03.540
understand it yeah that's totally fine that's why i'm just saying so you're not actually making
06:00:07.620
the claim that you're catholic by no means no i just state that i was all right oh yeah that's
06:00:12.740
fair wait quick question for you uh you used to do only fans what kind of content were you
06:00:17.780
making on OF um i was making content of myself were you doing bg content uh yeah bbg um different
06:00:29.220
kinds but but very short lived two bees two bees one girl i don't think i did any of those scenes
06:00:39.220
but you did do content with guys like set stuff i have in the past did you do any traditional porn at all
06:00:47.780
uh no oh okay did you only have like one scene partner or um i mean i've like collaborated with
06:00:56.820
people uh when i was doing it but i i don't know exactly what you mean oh like men you shot scenes
06:01:04.980
with was there one two three like just curious how many different how many different scenes did you do
06:01:09.940
and with how many different scene partners um i leave that stuff in the past i don't really want
06:01:16.660
to talk about stuff like that yeah but i did i ran my OF for about a year and a half so not too long
06:01:25.380
okay um i'm just curious like if is yours because you stopped right yeah i deleted my account but like
06:01:34.420
do you have is your stuff still out there i don't think so i mean probably somewhere on the internet
06:01:39.540
but i'm not uh putting it out there question for the whole panel going around the table do you think
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that i haven't we haven't done this one in a while uh do you think men should be willing to take a bullet
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if it's your wife then yes but a girlfriend i don't think so if you have kids
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yes i would take a bullet for my friends friends yes
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yeah like i mean is that deep oh i i see what you're saying okay yes
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yes i don't have a strong opinion on it but i know my dad would for me and my mom so i'd like the
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same okay yeah morgan yeah yeah can i uh can i start by asking for you who said if you have kids
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why would that be the qualifier for taking the bullet um i don't think anyone's in i think that
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it's equal like mentioned i don't i wouldn't take a bullet for a husband i don't think they need to do
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it for me i mean if you could say both obviously but that's not the question if you have kids
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like let's say she's pregnant or you have kids i think that it's important
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i don't know i just to protect your kids i think that it's more important for the child
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well let me give you an argument this one comes straight from a gentleman named ho math
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very compelling argument that i want to map on to the bullet taking argument when it comes to kids
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okay so this compelling argument goes like this women can only have as many children as they can
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get impregnated by one man at a time right so they can only have as many as men can impregnate them
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which is only going to be one man at a time who can't actually impregnate them you can sleep with
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many men at a time but only one can impregnate them however a man can impregnate as many women
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as he can make arrangements to sleep with so if that is the case if the protection of the kids is
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the priority then shouldn't the woman self-sacrifice as she can only have so many kids whereas he can
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continuously have more children no i mean if you even look at the titanic they've saved women and
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children i think that it's the same thing yeah no but but but that was that whole chivalry thing
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where there was an expectation because women were fulfilling their end of whatever this bizarre
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social construct i agree with that i think that i i think that that's i i'm still on that i think that
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a man should protect his men are protectors i think that a man should protect his
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wife and kids to show like the strong i don't know i but if it's in the best interest of the
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children the man is the provider inside of your logic then he's going to be the better provider
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for the children and he can continuously make far more children than the woman can so shouldn't she
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sacrifice herself for him no i think it's like i'm looking for the word i think the what was the word you
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used before uh chivalry yeah i think that i think that a man should protect his wife why
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i guess i don't have an explanation it just feels right okay fair enough like i you know maybe that's
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not wrong uh i'm not like set on that i just i would hope whoever i marry would take a bullet for me
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so i'm gonna go with that answer fair enough all right thank you
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yeah so it's not necessarily because she's a mom but more because you just love that person
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i think if you're deep in the relationship and you have kids that a mother because the kid's gonna
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grow up being like my dad was a hero he saved my mom rather than like oh my dad like this might be
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sexist but oh my my mom took a uh took a bullet for my dad like it just one of them sounds right to me
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i think i think the woman should take the bullet i was just as a traditional man the woman should take
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the bullet yeah i'm on the other i'm on the see i'm on the opposing side of that i would if it was my
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parents i would rather be i would rather know my dad died protecting my mom and having my mom
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raise me nothing against my dad i just like i wouldn't want to be like oh my mom took a bullet
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for my dad i think i personally just like maybe it's because i'm romantic or like that's just the way
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i see life is i would prefer it just be one and or the other would do that so if i'm in danger and
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my husband is drawn to save my life and do so then may he jump for the bullet if i see them in danger
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and i'm in love with him and that's what i'd hope to have that relationship dynamic then may i jump in
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front of them not because my children of any format i think is just an honor of just because i love you
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regardless of children or whatever it may be i like your answer i like your answer thank you well
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spoken thank you mine the woman should definitely take the bullet and then there's that why do you
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hate women i don't think it's wait wait wait hold on hold on sorry what's that what do you what do
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you have against women so much because my dad would never say something like that and he's conservative
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and he would never let my mom take a bullet because he loves us yeah i don't understand i'm sorry so
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your mom doesn't love him she does but it's just the way why wouldn't she take the bullet she probably
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would but i know he wouldn't let that happen yeah why would she let him let him that happen
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why do you hate women so much oh why do you hate men so much i don't i'm just saying why do you have
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sex with dogs wait what like why do you have sex with dogs what are you talking about oh why do you
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have sexual intercourse with canines why why do you have carnal knowledge with golden yeah why do you
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have sex with canines he means he's not sexist you don't have sex with dogs why do you allow a dog's
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penis inside of you oh i'm sorry you don't like pre-loaded questions where you make the inference
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of why so it's pre-loaded which assumes truth oh you don't like that maybe you shouldn't
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fucking do it to other people then why are you so triggered by my question why are you so triggered
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you're the one who said why do you hate women that sounds triggered you why do you have sex
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with dogs towards women and so you have sex with dogs whoa i don't have an animosity towards men but
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you guys have an animosity you have sex with dogs that's the question yeah i have an animosity tell
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you we got an animo me and andrew have an animosity hold on let's be honest first off i was it your
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mom or an ex-girlfriend what's the trauma i just want to know like psychologically you gotta watch
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don't bring in the mother i'm just being like psychologically trying to understand where is
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this coming from is well let's psychologically i'm happy to i love psychology it's my favorite
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it's all bullshit but i still like it anyway just because it's interesting to study is it your so
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let's uh let's move into it psychologically perhaps it's a freudian slip perhaps it's because
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of my relationship with my mother's freud would say or perhaps it's a entirely different psychological
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phenomenon altogether perhaps it's youngian and the fact is i haven't found myself yet perhaps
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it's many of these things or perhaps you're just full of fucking shit and can't make a single argument
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and so you defer to play do you hate women like a dumb trash feminist it could be it could be that
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too have you perhaps thought that psychologically you could just be full of fucking dog shit have you
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thought of that he's just pandering it's okay to who i don't see the audience that you want to rage
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bait and what well you look like you're pandering to a kfc so anyway back to where i was at before i
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was so rudely interrupted by mrs jowls over there can we get back to our conversation really good
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the wrath is so slow to anger for sure it's the smoker thing he's got to have another pack
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well you'll have another cheeseburger so anyway back to where i was at before i was so rudely
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interrupted there's no possible way for you to insult me about my health habits you look like you're
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i literally feel bad for the chair the chair looks like it's an agony hold on calm down
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while we finish our discussion everybody be nice everybody be nice okay go why do we hate women
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why do we why do you think we hate women i mean i used to have an animosity towards men when i was
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dating someone who was treating me badly but then i stopped dating him and some a guy treated me right
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and now like i just see like my dad is yeah he caused me some trauma but i forgive him and he's
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actually a very loving man and i don't feel like this animosity anymore i i like wait what does that
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have to do with the claims that you made i just see this like anger like that i used to have i don't
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have it really anymore but i just see it in you guys and i'm like do you think what is what unfulfilled
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trauma have you guys i'm happily i'm happily married with children what unfulfilled trauma
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do you think my wife sees in me i don't what unfulfilled trauma do you think a happily married
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man with many children including female children can you point to what you think this trauma is by
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the way are you married no i'm not married maybe that's because of all of your unfulfilled trauma
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you just couldn't can't get can't get a husband huh they just can't see past the unfulfilled trauma
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i'm not ready for a husband i know that and god knows that wait do you think me and andrew
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that doesn't strike a chord for me i'm really not ready hold on do you think that uh me and andrew
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are misogynists a little bit yeah okay do you andrew's a misogynist uh i think he has an animosity
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towards women yeah i think so do you think i'm a misogynist a little bit how do you define
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misogyny just somebody who has like a a dislike or hatred towards so i don't know the exact
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dictionary i don't want to say hatred but it's definitely a dislike and the and the like the
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definition of hatred is a great dislike and it's actually one of the like sins of of living in the
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flesh wait what if what if it's possible that i just i don't dislike women i just dislike stupid
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people and it doesn't matter if they're men or women and you just happen to be a stupid person
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and that's why i dislike you and also happen to be a woman at the same time so you happen to be
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stupid and happen to be a woman but i don't hate you because you're a woman i dislike you because
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you're stupid well could that be possible well why don't you ever talk about men you always talk
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about you talk about how much you hate women every day with men non-stop when do you when do you
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debate with anybody ever about any world view you can't even denounce the lgbtq in your own faith
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how could you ever talk to me about anything i debate it professionally for a living against men
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and women you go on uh a tick tock after you got with a guy who had a million tick tock followers so
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you could piggyback on that to fame i would not bullshit me here sweetheart it ain't gonna work well
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wait andrew check your check your text check your text on but um it's okay i'd be curious does he
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his wife come on and talk yeah she has oh she has yeah she has would you like to debate with her
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i'll bring her down right now let's do it oh yes let's do it if you want to bring her down
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oh rachel oh my god let's get rachel wilson okay because if we're saying gonna get that we're
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getting misogynistic vibes uh framework engineer donated 69 dollars
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women should take the first bullet try not to die to enable the man to fight bullet free for
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the kids sorry these came in if the man gets shot who fights the shooter logic logic yo engineer thank
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you for the uh 69 tts hashtag watching mucho gusto thank you giovanni jd donated 69 dollars
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thank you bro she rocks and burps that dolbert would just as quickly dismember it
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keep it away from her brian oh shame oh my god no yo giovanni thank you for the uh tts man i really
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appreciate it you can hide here too just temporarily uh yo giovanni appreciate it brother appreciate it
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i really hope rachel comes has anybody seen alien romu wait oh my god alien
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gmd jim donated 69 so the pro-choice catholic not only wants children gone she wants the husband to
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take a bullet also wow wow stop calling yourself a catholic she stopped
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she's back there she heard it uh jim she already did she stopped yeah she stopped she already
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denounced her she unclaimed she denounced she was raised catholic and she was raised this way
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she was born this way hillary epstein donated 69 dollars imagine not being able to see the viewpoint that
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men get the terrible end of the deal in the dating perspective there is no hate but modern sex culture
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isn't fair for men gotta see both sides thank you next thank you hillary epstein appreciate it
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lol paladin's donated 69 dollars you don't look happy says the woman who looks happy on the
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outside but is deeply troubled on the inside just keep smiling for the camera sweetie keep hiding who you
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really are you sociopath so i'm not actually an empath so i'm short a what like i'm the opposite of
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rachel's coming is she wearing her pink uh her pink sweater pink sweater it's a good i think it's
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a good look for rachel the pink it's a good look so just curious though uh oh wait now i can hear them
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rachel oh my goodness there she is wait you're i can't i'm not even in frame what the heck can we can we
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raise her seat up can we get her booster seat look at that i have a marriage can we get rachel a booster
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seat can we oh there's andrew with the cigarette she needs that we need it we need andrew we need
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a rachel this way oh can we literally got dragged out of bed for this this better be good
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i i hear my husband is a woman hating misogynist and i'm and i'm here to uh show proof of life he
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unchained me from the stove just long enough to to be here so she's out of the dog cage how can i
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so have you watched your husband talk to women on the podcast yeah i listen to every single podcast he does
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i've also been on the podcast and i debate women all the time myself okay
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in fact i was listening to you earlier describe how you think that men should pay for dates with
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women who want to be equal don't want to give them children and also want to have their own careers and
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that absolutely blew my mind you don't think that men should pay on the first date oh i think they
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should pay on the first date for women who are going to be wives not for women like you i wouldn't
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be a wife not if you're going to refuse to give a man children have to have your own career working
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outside the home it's not refusing to give a man no you're a roommate why would a man pay for you if
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you're just a roommate do you want to be equal or no well i have a conversation with my partner and
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we've discussed having children i'm not taking away from them having children we've decided together
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that having children is probably not the best idea if you're equal partners why should he pay for your
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stuff because a man want a man at the beginning of the relationship should want to prove that they
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are invested in the relationship so what are you proving like well there was a man i'd be like hell to
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the no to the no no no if it's not equal i'd be like no thank you ma'am uh you can pay for your own
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super seismic value meal and i will uh go find a woman who actually wants to be a wife if i'm going
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to pay for you said you're makes no sense you said you're equal 50 is just being there so what is
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does that mean he's doing 70 because he's paying in there too you're both there no but i think how
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is that showing the investment women show investment with time because if you do want to have children
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there's limited time but i think that um women they value different things like they value when a man
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provides for them especially on a first date a first meeting and men men so you you providing
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your glorious presence is what he's investing in if he values my presence yes i don't really
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well i mean simps are gonna simp there's a simp out there you know for everyone so i don't think that's
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that's the right way to go with simping that's the worst simping ever i'm gonna let you live at my
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house for like practically free and split the chores and pay for all your that's simping that's
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that's like a guy who genuinely likes you do you pay any bills with your husband no but i'm a stay at
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home mom i raise the children i cook all the meals andrew has never done a house chore ever in 17 years
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i do all of that i bring him his food i bring him his drinks i keep track of his schedule basically do
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anything he he needs me to do to help him because that's my duty in the relationship so
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yeah i mean if you want to talk about investment i'm pretty invested so he feels like you know if i
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want this traditional wife role and i actually do all those things then he feels like it's worth it to
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provide but if i were to come in here and be like well i want my own career and you have to do your own
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laundry and we're gonna split the chores 50 50 and i want to be equal he'd be like okay
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bitch then you can be equal and pay for all your shit you know like why would he pay for my stuff
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this makes no sense you guys have to choose do you want to be strong independent equal women
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or do you want chivalry and protection and provision you want the best of both you want
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all of the rights and all of the privileges and you want none of the duties and none of the
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responsibilities and that's bullshit it's like you didn't have a mom to tell you that this isn't how
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the world works or something like my my daughters don't get that nonsense for me i'm like uh no
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that's not how that works so if your daughter why are you so entitled that's what i want if your
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daughters went on a first date you want them to split the bill what's that if your daughters went on
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a first date would you want them to split the bill only if they're going to be feminists which
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they're not because i didn't raise them to be that way okay that's how my parents relationship is
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it's like my mom does the same stuff that you described and i think it's perfect like my mom
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might not be contributing to rent my dad makes the money but she's contributing something else she's
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doing a job that's just as equal as his job but she's not getting paid because it's she's being
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she's doing the household duties that returning somebody she's doing the same thing whether or not it's
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being paid like my parents are fortunate enough where my my parents are fortunate enough or my
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dad makes enough money where she does enough to work and she's able to provide those things
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therefore it's the same thing as money in my opinion like spending time and working around the house
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yeah i mean it even goes beyond division of labor it's more than right about division of labor like
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i have tremendous amount of respect for andrew he is the head of the household he's the person that
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has the major burden of most of the responsibility we've had a home invasion he was the person who
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had to go deal with that and risk his life you know he's worked 60 70 hour weeks for years so that
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i could stay home and our kids didn't have to be raised by strangers in daycare i mean there's a
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massive amount of responsibility on this man and he's extremely competent he is a really loving honorable
06:22:47.220
man who has like very firm boundaries and stands by them and takes very good care of his family so
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he gets the big piece of chicken he gets the respect he gets the love and the admiration and
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because i'm loyal and i'm doing all those things then he he provides for me and protects me and the
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kids and yeah i mean this is how it works now if you don't want that and you want this egalitarian
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stuff where we're we're equal partners he's my partner then you gotta pay for your own
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shit and you gotta do your own work and you better like you know take care of all your own stuff and
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don't expect the man to go answer the bump in the night because you're strong you're equal right if
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you're equal you can go take care of that you can go deal with the man that breaks in in the middle
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of the night you can change the tire in the rain uh if the basement floods and there's sewage backing
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up into it i guess you can go deal with that right so you just have to choose don't do this
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bullshit where you're like we're equal partners except for when there's anything dirty dangerous
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difficult that's all his job i just sit here and and grace him with my glorious presence that's
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entitlement that's narcissism it's terrible behavior it's ruining society and then on top of it you feel
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no obligation to produce future generations you want him to just let his lineage die with you know
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die with him and you feel super entitled to that too it's like i don't understand why you can't
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get the concept that i've talked to my partner i'm not taking away his ability to have children we've
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both agreed we don't want to have children if he doesn't want to have children i'm not taking that
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away from him to be fair i did say he's a pathetic simp so i mean that's right in line with being a
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pathetic simp you just i think you would just respect women's choices until i die it's just
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you guys are selfish materialists is what i'm getting life is about me and my comfort and what
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i want and and my you know uh just i live for me every day i wake up with no thought of the future
06:24:49.780
or any duties or responsibilities i have to anyone other than myself and and that's great so it's like
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if you want to live that way i guess but i just i'm just looking at you and i'm listening to you
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and i'm wondering where this entitlement and this sense of uh confidence is coming from because i'm
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entitled because i don't want to have children and i like when men pay on first dates that's entitlement
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what what are you useful for um i would say that women have intrinsic value just no you
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what are you well i'm a woman so i have intrinsic value sad that you don't see that how because i'm
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a person and everyone has val everyone has value it depends on who's looking at you do men have
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intrinsic value yeah they do but i said that it's different it's a different type of value but feminism is
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about equality so if it's different then how is that equal no they can they can be equal in the
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sense of they can both work you can be a stay-at-home mom and not pursue a career that's fine but women
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should have the opportunity and the choice so do you think women should work too women should be allowed
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to work no i mean like in your relationship if you're not raising kids should you both in your
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marriage let's say you get married have a job both of you yeah but i think that a woman's job could be a
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little less harsh i guess like women shouldn't have to go work some nine to five and and uh do this
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climbing of a corporate ladder but like for myself i found a job that allows me to stay home
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and is not super strenuous and i think that a lot of women should be able to have the option
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to either stay at home or work what would you do lol paladins donated 69 w to rachel elta fat
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for prostitute feminists who have no value and tiktok he who also hate men and provide no value to
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society the problem is they had mothers but their mothers are bad people my mother's amazing and i love
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her very much b i'm just it's wild to me because you asked do i hear how my husband talks to women
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i actually donated 69 dollars don't forget there's two first chair did of as well thank you jim
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including bg and said she couldn't remember if she ever did b slash b slash g pretty sure anyone that's
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got gang banged and posted it would remember i have not gotten gang banged and bbg is not the
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same thing as a gang bang but okay have you done not two guys gmd jim donated 69
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you called him your partner partners split expenses two more he is not your husband
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he could just hire a cleaner and a prostitute with a nice body you are just too ungrateful leech
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i don't think he would agree with that but okay
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there's another one coming in random bear random underscore bear donated 69
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rachel be like i got out of bed for this and look this good i will bring the heat
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we must look terrible i look terrible but thank you it's fine it's fine you're shaking your head
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a star that's not very judgment also love your rachel looks very dapper rachel looks very dapper
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i literally just like put on face cream and was like tucking myself into bed and andrew comes upstairs so
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rachel is titus 245 what's that uh that's the titus the titus two wife um it's like a description of
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like what an honorable woman is and how she acts and operates in the world so thank you that's a
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lovely compliment i certainly have my flaws it's not like i'm over here being a perfect wife or
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anything but the the point is i try and i care about you know ryan's lint roller donated 69
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rachel is out of the kitchen but she's still thugging cooking
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okay uh now since rachel also came down she wanted to address i guess your criticism
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um uh you said andrew he has animosity towards women and that he hates women
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and so does she captain donated 69 dollars i definitely take a bullet for the girl in the
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white crop top this girl is based and hot the world needs more of that she'd be a great woman for any man
06:29:24.820
um or girl i want to address the the gal with the pink hair real quick because i did hear her say that
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um it is not hatred to criticize women it is in no way hateful to notice when women are acting like
06:29:42.820
entitled narcissists and to call them out on that like i said all the women at this table could tell
06:29:49.140
me all night long about what they think they deserve and what their rights are and what they should have
06:29:55.380
and what they ought be able to do but none of you can tell me what duties responsibilities or obligations
06:30:01.620
you have outside of yourself to society to the people around you you would say things like i'm smart
06:30:07.940
and i'm funny and i'm just a really great person and i'm a good friend and you know all these worthless
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platitudes but there's no like sacrifice you don't ever feel you need to sacrifice anything for
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anyone outside yourself you're not willing to have sleepless nights so that you can raise babies and
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produce human beings that are going to go out into the world and and have a legacy and have an effect
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right you're not really willing to do much of anything unless it benefits you and then if someone
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questions if andrew comes on here and says let me poke around and see why you think these things let me see if
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there's any logic behind your beliefs let me see if you even understand why you believe the things
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you believe you think that's hateful you think that's misogynistic you think he's mean no it's just
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that you're used to be being treated like a child princess and being carried around on a cushy little pillow
06:30:59.940
in life with absolutely no opposition with nobody ever going hey wait what are you doing what are
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what are you providing in life what are you doing for anyone else outside yourself you you haven't
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ever been challenged on anything because you're a pretty girl right i'm young and i'm cute why are
06:31:17.620
you questioning me why are you so hateful where's all the trauma no i'm just a 44 year old woman who's
06:31:23.380
actually lived raised five children worked really hard in my life for everything i have i take care of you
06:31:30.180
know other family members a help at my church i do things that aren't just for me so when i see
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girls that behave this way and have this mentality you're damn right i'm gonna come on here and say
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some shit especially if i get dragged out of bed to defend you know this little girl that's saying my
06:31:47.460
husband must be traumatized and hates women it's just garbage you're full of shit you have no idea what
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you're talking about these are the orthodox church you guys seem lovely i would love to go to the
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orthodox church i think you're upset okay coming from someone who i know personally i'm not a 10 i
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am very self-aware in that regard i think that there might be animosity coming from you because
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you're maybe not as good looking oh i'm definitely not i've been on the show i've rated myself but i grew
06:32:19.860
up in an era where we didn't all think we were models when you were growing up in the 80s and 90s
06:32:25.460
everyone didn't think they were a 10 like all of us girls who were not going to have modeling careers
06:32:31.220
or be the hot cheerleader we all knew that and we were fine with it and we didn't think we deserve
06:32:36.900
six foot six pack six figure man you know we were just like happy to meet a nice boy
06:32:42.100
who liked us back this was before you're calling those boys narcissistic insanity huh you're calling
06:32:49.220
those boys simps no i'm calling your boy a simp he's a simp that's simply a nice boy who likes you
06:32:56.900
isn't the same thing as some absolute goober who's gonna pay for all your crap he's not
06:33:02.580
not expecting anything i'm just saying at the beginning of the relationship on the first couple
06:33:07.380
dates a man should take the investment and pay for the first couple dates she's not paying for
06:33:13.620
everything she said that his family's paying for some yeah and i think it's only fair that i pay a
06:33:18.980
portion of rent for a girlfriend you're not even married like why would his family pay for your
06:33:25.300
stuff you're not they're not this guy they're not there's something they all they all own a home
06:33:31.620
and i help with she pays the water bill she pays some of the mortgage i pay some of the mortgage
06:33:38.260
my question is it's not even fitting to the dynamic that you're expressing so much interest in
06:33:44.260
you're expressing so much interest in not only the first dates but that you also want to be
06:33:47.860
supported by this person and i don't think that means not paying any bills or doing any sort of
06:33:53.780
housework or like helping in the relationship like i don't think that it's entitled i just think that
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it's a better dynamic long term for a man who has the financial stability to be with them
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rather than a man who doesn't have any sort of future plan to provide for you
06:34:10.980
do you think the woman needs a future plan though i think that women should and this might be
06:34:16.180
controversial to is she gone she's here she's still here okay i think it might be controversial
06:34:21.220
but i think women um even if they're not working a traditional nine to five should have some sort of
06:34:28.740
money saved up separate from their husbands in case there's domestic violence or there's divorce or
06:34:34.340
things like that like you should have some of your own income you need a keepsake of like if there's
06:34:39.380
domestic violence i think like you're contributing yeah like you should feel safe in your relationship
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and like pick something if you want a job just that's equal or you can do the equal housework or
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and have kids like there's an equality thing that's different feminists believe that there's equality but
06:34:57.860
you're talking about things not being equal i think it is equal like i'm gonna jump off here because
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andrew's gonna come back and i do i am actually gonna go to bed but is anybody does anybody have
06:35:10.260
any like final questions or phones to pick i think star back there had like a thing she wanted to
06:35:16.020
come back and say i'm just curious if anyone on the sorry what
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i really don't have anything to say i'm just curious if anyone else on the show has brought
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up like internalized misogyny to you uh yeah i get it every day of my life so you don't know my
06:35:32.340
background but i'm an uh i wrote a book about the history of feminism and how almost everything that
06:35:37.300
the normal person thinks about it is actually wrong the way that the feminist liberation movements
06:35:42.740
unfolded is garbage that was rewritten history by women's studies departments um and i debate feminists
06:35:49.700
all the time so this is normal for me of course i've heard absolute garbage
06:35:53.860
bullshit like internalized misogyny it's not a thing it doesn't exist it's pure coke okay
06:35:58.740
um i love women but i do think that women have proper roles and i think that the biggest problem
06:36:06.340
the problem with you and most of the other girls that have a problem with me is that you don't
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understand that this modern world and all this beautiful technology around you that you're sitting in
06:36:15.780
right now if it weren't for men building that and maintaining that you would have no illusion of
06:36:21.620
being able to be a strong independent woman and have all these choices and do what why do men do all of
06:36:27.700
that they do it because they're benevolent and they are good isn't that crazy they're actually really
06:36:34.340
nice and they care about us even though they don't have but they're getting something out of men were as
06:36:40.020
bad and misogynistic as you think they would put us in cages and we'd be you know baby farms there
06:36:45.540
would be baby farms i think you might be a little bit of a baby farm because they could no they could
06:36:50.740
you're a bit of a baby farm haven't you popped out five children yeah i'm a baby farm oh i think that's
06:36:58.500
the ultimate form of sex work actually what's that i think that i think that you popping out five
06:37:04.980
children is the ultimate form of sex work because without those children what would your husband
06:37:09.700
provide for you language wait a minute wait a minute why are you using degrading language popping
06:37:14.820
out babies uh popping out babies this is so you're against if you didn't people having babies if you
06:37:21.620
didn't provide children would your husband marry you no exactly why should he exactly so you're a baby
06:37:28.180
farm to him a bit marrying someone is also about starting a family yeah a family these are my
06:37:34.340
baby farm you should be so lucky because you're gonna die alone okay early thank you so much on top
06:37:42.020
of that so thank you so much i mean if you would you like me to go wake up my children and get them
06:37:46.980
down here too so you can tell them that they're like no little i don't think it's appropriate that
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i think it's really appropriate them out that they're the result of baby from i mean take your
06:37:56.020
little snarky little insults and shove them up your ass because do you think your parents did
06:38:01.140
that it's women like me my parents only had one child my parents are useless you are a useless
06:38:08.100
heifer who has never done anything except you're a great woman you're a very godly woman aren't you
06:38:14.900
be nice ah you started it hey you can dish it out but you can't i started it didn't you come on
06:38:20.020
you're talking about mcflurries or something you called me a baby farm and now you're going to
06:38:24.740
pretend to be offended get the fuck i said you're the ultimate sex worker actually
06:38:29.620
uh okay yeah me being devoted to one man for 17 years and giving him you're the ultimate
06:38:36.900
you're the ultimate so your parents are also part of a baby farm because you were born
06:38:41.060
my mom had one child and she also worked so but i know that my parents would have gotten married
06:38:47.460
without having to have children if i milk a cow the cow's still providing milk though even if i only
06:38:54.180
milk him once so you're going oh my we don't believe that marriage is only for the purpose
06:39:00.340
of children had we gotten married and for some reason biologically i couldn't i had a medical
06:39:04.820
issue and could not give andrew children he would not have divorced me and he would not have left me
06:39:08.820
that's not what we believe in we believe that marriage is also a sacrament of our church you don't
06:39:13.700
get divorced for a reason like that however why would a man marry a woman who's giving him
06:39:19.460
nothing like you are you you don't bring so you just don't value the man except you don't value
06:39:25.380
women for just being us like you just don't i value people but that's different than what a man would
06:39:32.900
want to get married for why do you not understand these basic distinctions a man could want to get
06:39:37.860
married without wanting to have children but that's not what your husband did with you honey
06:39:41.460
no man does that except for a simp or some guy who's just men some men just don't want to have
06:39:48.180
children doesn't want a family sweetie sweetie honey yeah i love these feminists always sweetie honey
06:39:55.780
they get so sassy but this is going to be you're very sassy yeah well listen i was dragged out of bed
06:40:03.700
because you're sitting here insulting my husband and saying uh oh your wife must be some victim or there
06:40:10.820
must be trauma maybe your wife is bad you're saying all kinds of personal garbage and then when i come
06:40:16.260
on here and tell you what's what you're like how dare she she's so mean she's not a good christian
06:40:22.180
it's like well then don't say this stupid shit lady don't come on here and talk a bunch of smack and
06:40:27.380
then when i come down here and set you straight you're like i'm shocked and offended you definitely
06:40:32.580
didn't set anyone straight oh well the chat disagrees with you and it's okay great not straight
06:40:40.820
what what do you have this i think the thing where they say you're just pandering i think it shows i
06:40:46.740
think it shows the type of woman you are the fact that you got out of bed and came down here
06:40:52.340
to not only defend your husband but to defend women at the right instinct that they should be in so
06:41:00.580
i hell the main reason i do the stuff i do is because i was really shamed for not going down
06:41:06.980
a career path i had a full college scholarship that i declined because i wanted to be a mom instead and
06:41:13.460
everyone around me thought it was some massive tragedy that i was going down the wrong path i was
06:41:18.420
going to regret not being a career babe uh everybody said oh it's such a shame you're just a mom and turns
06:41:25.780
out there's nothing i could have done with my life that's more meaningful than having five children
06:41:31.460
raising them well and you know being a good mom there's nothing i could do in the career world
06:41:36.740
that's going to last the way that that will have a lasting impact in this world and i was shamed for
06:41:42.100
it and i was made to feel like oh i was losing somehow in life so yeah i don't want other women to
06:41:47.220
feel that way i want to stick up for women who do want to be good wives who do want to be good mothers
06:41:52.660
who think that that's a worthwhile thing to do with their lives and not have them be subject to
06:41:58.020
being called baby factories by disrespectful chunky heifers with attitude problems who can't
06:42:04.740
even properly articulate a single thought in their head so with that i'm gonna go to bed and you guys
06:42:10.580
can talk to the nice wilson instead maybe you'll feel better now when he comes back continue pandering
06:42:16.260
rachel uh shoot good night rachel i was gonna let the i'll let the tts's come through uh
06:42:24.580
i had to pause them temporarily just so we could allow rachel to have the back and forth
06:42:28.660
so a couple tts's are gonna go through we're gonna try to wrap up here pretty soon uh practicing
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gentlemen donated 69 dollars to all the women how often do you receive an honest opinion about anything
06:42:42.500
from an adult straight male that is neither related to you nor wants any kind of romantic
06:42:48.180
carnal relationship with you how often do you receive an honest opinion from an adult straight
06:42:55.460
male that is neither related to you nor mike davis donated 69 dollars just tuning in wait this blue whale
06:43:04.180
only dates one million dollars plus earners to cover the food bill when her fatter gets in the car
06:43:10.500
the tire sensors pop on bro oh my gosh warlord 69 you donated 69 dollars baby farm you are the
06:43:20.980
ultimate farm when you're eating for more than two ppa do better bro you guys only fuel the weight loss
06:43:28.660
like do you not realize i've already lost can you guys start fat shaming me boys i need to lose some
06:43:33.620
weight yeah i got a dad bod getting on him get on me guys fucking roast me giovanni this is the
06:43:40.500
roast session it's the roast session thank you giovanni growing a family with your loving husband is a baby
06:43:45.620
farm farming produces commodities people with children don't see them as commodities exposed
06:43:52.660
yourself and your view on children i'm just saying by the way you were totally
06:43:58.100
anti-natalist i just want to point that out totally anti-natalist anti-natalist anti like
06:44:04.100
people who need help babies getting pregnant you called my wife a breeder and said that she was a
06:44:08.740
sex worker because she had my children i mean that's kind of what it comes down to to a certain
06:44:13.860
point like you would not marry and provide for her if she could not have your children you should
06:44:17.860
probably i don't think you understand the distinction in faith they talked about that
06:44:21.940
within the within the confines of our faith it's not even committed he would not divorce her if she
06:44:26.340
couldn't have children but the beginning stages of their relationship were that they decided they
06:44:31.300
were going to have children if she said she didn't want to he would not have married her and provided
06:44:35.460
for her if there was how do you how do you even know that we talked to her no we talked to her
06:44:40.660
you're just kind of making these broad assumptions but the thing is is that she she asked this fantastic
06:44:45.700
question so what why what would be the problem with a man having a preference of a woman who
06:44:51.380
promises him children so his lineage can live on how would that make her a prostitute that's
06:44:56.900
insanity that's not what i'm calling a prostitute i'm saying that it's the ultimate form of sex work
06:45:02.900
then that would be the ultimate form of prostitution what they're not the same thing
06:45:08.180
she had to have sex with you in order to make the children to say that one dating
06:45:14.660
is too generous for coming it's anti-life men the martial they provide and women are their
06:45:20.260
dignity in exchange death for men humiliation for women whatever it's anti-life men the material
06:45:30.100
marshal they provide are their death thank you gmd jim donated 69 dollars holy shite did the beluga
06:45:40.020
say that rachel is not attractive rachel is the most attractive woman currently on this show
06:45:45.940
hey chrisco hey chrisco you will never be worth one percent of rachel wilson i was saying i didn't
06:45:52.820
say that she was unattractive i said there might be animosity towards star because star is more
06:45:58.340
attractive war seepoo donated 69 dollars god she's awesome right what you what you're doing is you're
06:46:06.900
making this kind of argument which says the only reason rachel thinks is because she's jealous of
06:46:11.780
acts it's a non-argument right i can say the same thing the only reason you make an anti-natalist
06:46:16.580
argument is because you're jealous you don't have children i wouldn't make such an argument because
06:46:20.500
it's absurd it's an absurd argument it's not the thing is that she has internalized misogyny
06:46:26.500
because a more attractive woman is trying to say that you are basically all you're saying is that
06:46:33.140
all that you're saying here with your argument is it's not absurd if it were true that's not an
06:46:38.260
argument that's not demonstrating it's true it's just asserting that it's true demonstrate rachel
06:46:43.860
wilson is jealous of fucking any of you go ahead i'll wait i'm sure deep down she might be okay are
06:46:51.860
you gonna demonstrate it or are you just gonna assert it excuse me sorry guys it might be just an
06:46:58.100
internal thing that uh happens when someone has internalized misogyny no logic no nothing you just
06:47:04.020
made it up because you have no argument okay andrew you're the one who said that every woman sitting
06:47:09.300
here is making judgments in their head about who's more attractive so your wife doesn't do that
06:47:16.260
no i didn't say that she wouldn't make a judgment as to who's more attractive or less attractive but
06:47:20.420
that wouldn't make her jealous or not yes it would yes it would wait i'm sorry are you saying that i could
06:47:28.340
claim that another man is better looking than me and that would mean i was jealous of him or a woman
06:47:32.980
could claim another woman is better looking than her and you're jealous of them does that even make
06:47:36.980
fucking sense to you yes it could cause some animosity no no stop inserting the word could
06:47:43.300
that's very sneaky with the language anything could do anything does it entail if you understand a
06:47:50.180
person next to you is more attractive than you that that means you're jealous of them does it
06:47:54.420
actually mean that or not i think your wife might be jealous of my question answer the question don't
06:48:01.460
divert again answer the question i think your wife could potentially be jealous could potentially
06:48:07.700
i think no demonstration no evidence just wild assertions that you have no argument hold on
06:48:17.700
really quick um we'll get right back to it uh nick you gotta leave soon right so why don't we
06:48:25.220
before you leave let's pull up twitch discord and debate university
06:48:31.860
so guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow and a prime sub if
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you've been enjoying the stream if you're watching on youtube open up another tab twitch.tv slash whatever
06:48:44.900
drops a follow if you're watching uh if you have a prime sub available maybe you guys can check
06:48:49.540
uh it would mean the world to me if you guys do have a prime sub available it's been one hour since
06:48:53.780
our last prime you know what that means it could be bugged drop those prime subs on twitch or whatever
06:48:58.660
i mean we have to yeah those are the rules are you guys watching on the crucible those of you who are
06:49:03.540
watching on the crucible just drop us a follow if you guys liked seeing rachel just come in there
06:49:09.620
all randomly we need to see you spamming the follow button just to follow don't worry if you want to
06:49:14.900
join if you got a prime if you got a prime you can drop one uh virtual self think for the prime
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scatterman thing for the prime shobs thing for the tier one uh tube 1980 thing for the prime guys
06:49:25.700
drop us a follow over there on twitch you can probably move us over uh yeah oh yeah it's uh
06:49:32.340
debate university.com oh uh i'll do discord after i guess uh yeah debate university.com if you want to
06:49:40.660
learn how to become a master debater like andrew wilson you want to learn how to debate like andrew wilson
06:49:46.660
you got to go to debate university.com get his course verbal combat over 80 plus hours or sorry
06:49:54.260
sorry not 80 plus excuse me 80 plus videos there's about six hours of uh content guys listen it's that
06:50:01.380
time of year uh thanksgiving and christmas is around the corner so if you want to dominate your liberal
06:50:06.980
family members at dinner uh go to debate university.com you got to get the course debate university.com it
06:50:13.620
really is a fantastic course but as you can see in the difference in erratic thinking versus logical
06:50:19.860
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06:50:26.020
structure thoughts in a correct way without making completely fallacious and erratic and stupid
06:50:30.740
arguments that would be the place to go yes university hold on wait wait verbal combat and verbal abuse
06:50:37.940
oh boy okay hold on let me just say let me let me just get through the discord really quick go
06:50:45.220
go to your fake phony preacher and tell him the ortho the mean ortho bros told us that we're
06:50:50.100
fucking stupid and can't make arguments for our positions go cry to him and tell him that you don't
06:50:55.220
feel the spirit of christ go tell him that go tell him i hope you and then have this female
06:51:00.420
preacher come out pat you on the head if i lose 100 pounds will you stop smoking oh my gosh absolutely
06:51:08.500
not okay wait so okay really quick since nick's got to go um guys we had a literally shaking quit it's
06:51:16.180
the first in the whatever history i will be posting the bts security camera footage to our discord it's
06:51:25.940
discord if you can put us just on the other side discord.gg slash whatever i will post it probably
06:51:32.180
tomorrow discord.gg slash whatever you sign up through patreon patreon.com slash whatever uh
06:51:37.700
guys guys discord.gg slash whatever we'll post in the bts behind the scenes section over there on
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discord.gg slash whatever if you want to see the first ever literally shaking quit and if you want to
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learn again verbal abuse go to verbal combat go you can pick up verbal combat from debate
06:52:00.020
university you can learn all of the verbal abuse which is actually just logical argumentation which
06:52:04.980
offends people because they have no positions and uh they don't even know how to articulate what
06:52:09.140
they're saying makes no sense and they spew verbal diarrhea make sure you get all the verbal
06:52:13.940
abuse over there i would certainly appreciate i feel like you are demons speaking through you you
06:52:19.300
verbally abused me oh demons are speaking i feel verbally abused you can't even you can't even
06:52:25.700
a certain sect of that and say that they don't belong to christianity but i'm the one who has
06:52:30.580
demons speaking through me why don't you go uh parade your rainbow flag through your church next
06:52:36.740
lol paladins donated 69 dollars welcome back pinky you're safe again now that rachel is gone
06:52:43.940
you can fake being happy again feminist whore is just a brainwashed death cultists who believes that
06:52:49.780
humans should go extinct see this is how like rachel's pandering she's just pandering there's a few more
06:52:56.340
coming in she completely obliterated your entire world view in 15 seconds it wasn't even different
06:53:02.340
catholics but donated 69 dollars she's pandering to a male audience
06:53:06.660
misogyny is lunacy and buzzwords maybe educate yourself fully with actual research instead of bs
06:53:12.980
from comic cult worships thank god feminists seem to not want kids dying ideology
06:53:21.940
uh trad catholic thank you for the uh tts man really appreciate it thank you brother thank you
06:53:27.620
brother uh we got a few more that are coming through uh guys we're just going to do the roast section
06:53:32.180
the roast session and then we'll wrap up the show here pretty soon tts has been lowered so if you
06:53:40.260
want to get it in if you want to wait what the hell happened here hold on andrew you remember me
06:53:47.700
question mark i do remember you yeah thank you all right cool because you look a lot like my black ex-wife
06:53:55.620
you know what we'll bring her on and and we'll see what she's been in the chat most of the night
06:54:01.140
she's uh she's sending a ton of gifted subs i guess i must have left an impression on my black
06:54:06.500
ex-wife okay well make sure you leave an impression on brian because he he dis including
06:54:12.020
my people wait what what he he he he do to be the big the big libya that blm but he won't do
06:54:20.260
he won't do a black girlfriend how about that right i would do the black girl
06:54:25.060
i would do the black girl you said a boy donated 69
06:54:35.940
what lindsey memory check what time and where oh and brian you're not uh you're not going for the
06:54:40.580
sisters he was a skater boy i said see you later i did black i've i've dated a uh a black woman one
06:54:48.020
this looks like some coke brian i dated black you're african-american i'm african-american i
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date african americans yeah oh wait did i she she no he told me he didn't he said it earlier he was
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like when you were talking about all your little girlfriends you'd be cleaning up your house
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giovanni jd donated 69 dollars pink andrew only emphasized the lgbt issue because you were commanded
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by christ to defend his law to be christian is to expect persecution and hatred stand strong do not
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cover evil peter that's not that's not niceness or i mean it is niceness it's not kindness kindness
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kindness is termiotops for donated 30 dollars w rachel andrew you have a heck of a wife god bless you
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both pink princess needs some life lessons and christ crop top second chair well-based stay sober
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and awesome cheers to brian madison and morgan hey thank you man appreciate it guys 30 tts we'll do
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it for a bit and then we'll uh we'll wrap the show here church underscore of underscore thiantology
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donated 30 dollars one being the lead singer of ob slash cd is now the least of your unattractive
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qualities chair two avril latrine three female michelle obama four strawberry should take five
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too generic to insult brian stay dumpy stay dumpy stay dumpy so if you guys want to get your uh 30 30
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tts in everything should have been swapped over uh body count are you pointing at me yeah
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24 how many men how many women mostly women like what's the breakdown give us the breakdown six
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men and i regret part of my body count i got kicked out of treatment at 14 because i hosted a sex party
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i got kicked out because they were all in darya donated 30 dollars w andrew w brixton w rachel
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good show tonight are we up for watching the bow video also we'll do it to the panel would you bow
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for your man show of hands would you bow for wait actually we'll show the video first um wait hold on
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really quick you had a sex party yeah i got kicked out how old brian i'm sorry i have an appointment in
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the morning i have to get to oh okay about a little bit early tonight 3 a.m here uh thank you guys thank
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you to the entire panel just so you know i hold no ill will and i never hold grudges never have
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i consider these to be spirited uh back and forth when we do have them but i hold no grudges to any
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of you and it was very nice to meet all of you uh with exception to nobody i really appreciate it you
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guys have a great night hey uh andrew thank you for joining us man appreciate it wait can i say
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something before you leave sure okay i watched some of your debates and with men as well and i
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think that you hold your ground very well with both aspects of genders when you debate i don't treat
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anybody any differently it doesn't matter if they're men or women i'm just going to uh hold the ground
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not only from my world view but from my political perspective as well i treat everybody the same uh it's
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it's just that men seem to take it far less personal than women because women are pampered
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princesses who like to have their asses kissed so anyway i appreciate it very much you guys have a
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wonderful no hey thank you thank you thank you andrew we'll pray for you i'm sure your wife would
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like to be pampered like a princess uh so austin in the sources tab over there to hide this you're gonna
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you see the sources tab no sources tab yeah no turn off it's it's okay hold on hold on just just listen
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to my voice okay so there's oh yes yeah so scroll down a little bit there yeah hide the discord one
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perfect and then on center zoom here i'm gonna have you hide the discord there too and then also we're
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gonna change split let me see yeah hide the discord one on split and we'll keep it there okay cool cool
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cool uh so oh hold on let me see oh i gotta let them come through okay we're gonna have some come
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through guys got some tts is coming through guys like the video please please like the video uh if you
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you enjoyed the stream like the video well paladins donated 30 dollars or something feminists didn't
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create the anti-baby belief they only parrot what they were taught as young children sesame street
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globalist millionaires who want an empty world for their own children to control
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right-wing king donated 29.99 brian has a fat tum-tum and andrew has big tatatas pinky has no brain
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sorry whale kfc is closed tonight after rachel cooked all the chicken brian do 30 push-ups a day okay
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i gotta lose weight brian's twitch prime bug donated 30 dollars oops sorry it's my fault there's a bunch
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of cobwebs in here and a laughing spider the likes of which sounds like carmala harris also it looks like
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r.i.p you guys are so funny word um oh body count oh hillary epstein donated 30 dollars
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w maddie not in simp way w stream w discord w w w w w
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thanks hillary epstein discord.gg slash whatever i'm going to post the literally shaking bts
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security camera footage tomorrow probably like the video 30 tts get it in last call last call guys
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uh rate really quick before you get up uh so wait you said body count 24 right yeah how many guys how
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many girls six guys i believe i got the list on notes but bro you had a blank party at 14.
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it was framework engineer donated 30 dollars adderall levine isn't going to make dinner tomorrow
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sorry she's going to be busy ruining her mascara and getting a sore throat if she knows what's good
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for her otherwise it's back in the cage oh what thank you engineer appreciate it he's threatening you
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basically okay cool uh going around the table with you body count um i plead the fifth do you want to
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give us a range no do you think the passion matter um i think it matters to a certain partner i've
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definitely had partners who i had a higher body count then and it made them feel insecure um so i just
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unless unless my partner is asking me to bring it up then i think out of courtesy i probably wouldn't
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bring it up on my own sure and wait did you uh do you think body count matters though i genuinely i don't
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think so body count um i don't want to say i can't be the only one yeah don't leave your girl hanging
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no but like the thing is i don't want to have to like put it together because i have been with girls
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before so it's like probably a bigger list than i what's the guy list what's the girl list single
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digit double digit or two give the range somewhere with under 20 under 10 i mean well somewhere like
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mixed and it's just i don't know you can give me like maybe a couple minutes and i'm going around the
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the table don't want to answer no yeah 11 11 great fuck me morgan one who no okay
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all right did you get us idiot donated 30 dollars in dating men's only value is external things they
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bring in exchange women give their dignity for those external things yes this is reflected in the men and
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women on the podcast no to baby farmer donated 30 dollars w chair one you held your own you know
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what if you're down to come back maybe we'll have you and rachel do a 1v1 debate i don't know if i want
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to see her in person she's harmless mike maffia donated 30 dollars i see a lot of great qualities in
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the women on this panel compared to most i have seen well except the cookie monster bro please don't
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talk to talk about me that way i'm very sensitive about my weight okay i don't appreciate happy
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donated 30 dollars i don't appreciate that brian please remove the phrase it's not clear to me i do
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say that from your vocabulary i do say that it sounds so unsure and lame a f be more assertive should it
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be like it's clear to me waffledon donated 30 dollars hey brian have you heard of patrice o'neill's
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30 point system for rating looks he talks about it in black philip show i think it's much better
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he calls uma thurman a 10 a beautiful ugly woman lol i actually saw that yesterday he donated 30
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l panel first chair was awful true religion was decent ww sex isn't real so bc is six black shirt
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made the one true church look bad that's evil pink loves christ so better pink hat greater than maddie
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love you russ fox donated 30 dollars hey bree chat show i've got some show ideas hit my dm
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question slash challenge for the whole panel claim accountability for a mistake you've made
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and learned from in a relationship which has made you grow claim accountability are they asking if
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we've ever claim accountability for a mistake you've made and learned from in a relationship
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was made you grow yes so what is it a mistake that has made you grow have you made madison uh probably
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like leading someone on like knowing i wasn't i guess the only mistake i've ever made is never having
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made the mistake no being perfect you can't learn from those you know like it's it's not fun for
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the girl if you're just too perfect and amazing you're so real for that it's it's not fun for her
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i mean that's true but i was just too perfect and amazing i think i shouldn't trust so easily
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because i genuinely believe that people would feel like oh the bowel video oh uh
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i don't know austin you think you can figure it out or not yes
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be careful yeah okay hold on let me hide that i'll hide this okay go ahead and uh hit the play yeah
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uh oh no we don't need no volume just boom huge huge bow huge bow huge bow anyways uh started from
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the beginning we'll just see the bow again if you can just like drag the little thing part two he's
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got it he's got it there we go boom huge uh so going around the table would you bow for your man
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i've seen you guys talk about this on the podcast before yeah if it was something in our culture or
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something that my uh boyfriend or future husband would really want me to do then i would do it
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i don't really feel like it's okay i've seen people have strong opinions on this i don't get it
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yeah what about what about you would you hit the bow for your every morning every night after i tuck
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him into bed and read him a bedtime story that's beautiful based beautiful every morning would you
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hit a bow i'm only bowing for a man if i'm doing one thing like what there's only one thing i bow for
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stop it wait no wait because i actually go to a buddhist university and i have to deal with
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bowing to people all the time so i only bow to people when i feel like they'll understand that
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i'm trying to show them respect so if i'm doing that with a man everyone at the buddhist church no no no
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no no no if i'm doing something with a man i'm like i'm like okay well i actually like to do that
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so i might just do that but that's the only time i'll bow i only get on my knees for god never
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would you bow for a man we would just bow to god okay yeah i would bow morgan oh
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is that that no oh no okay i thought oh that's lawyer david tozekiak donated 30 dollars thank you
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david serious respect to all the people who debated on the panel what is the shaking quits was busy
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watching dnc earlier make brian pay for deleter in and out for you all brian please go back to wait
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what how are you trying to say brian good in and out but brian will get there so wait austin what
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what was she saying to you because she basically said that she like just got her blood drawn before
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she came and was like shaking because of it and then also she just couldn't take the whole
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did did she donate blood or did she just get a blood draw for she didn't specify i don't know
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i highly doubt she donated blood to be fair i am like i'm shaky right now my blood sugar is low which
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is why i ate a sandwich and like but i didn't leave uh gmd jim donated 30 dollars
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w's in the chat for star she ate a sandwich and didn't leave low blood sugar find a man to give
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you half a dozen brian your dumpy doesn't need work pinky you really do need a legit exorcism
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max k donated thirty dollars bricks and try the carnivore diet you'll lose weight eat delicious
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steaks and trigger more feminist live tarts um oh you know what date offer donated thirty dollars
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i'll answer the car lindsay would coordinating a fake kidnapping that brought you to a red carpet
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five-star restaurant be the threatening request you need yes 100 only the red carpet five-star michelin
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yo uh max k i actually did the carnivore diet for 30 days it was really hard i lost a decent amount
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of weight but the problem was it was so difficult to adhere to it maybe i needed like i mean 30 days
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was pretty solid commitment it was just uh all i had was salt meat eggs butter uh water that's it i was
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gonna try coffee i was gonna try i'm on a different diet though i shouldn't have led with
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salt i should have it should have been steak eggs salt salt water no pepper no veggies no cart none of
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that it was hard weight from that yeah i lost like i lost like 10 pounds but then like i was so i gained
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it all back within like a month you have to adjust to it because you're but it's like ketosis that's
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what i was on it for 30 days that shit was hard man i'll do it again eventually giovanni jade you
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donated 30 dollars it's brian you promised explanation of the after show drama from last
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episode i'm sorry don't honeydick me i'm sorry i'm sorry giovanni uh i i'll have to maybe do it next
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show i gotta do next show because it's already late all right guys last call if you want to get a
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a little tts in in the chat uh just remember boys big labia matter like the video 29 30 30 30
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dollar tts uh let's see gg uh well played to the panel last call hit the like button please on your
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way out thank you for tuning in tonight to commit anyone in the world but you were here with me i
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really appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats donates and supports the show your uh
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generosity is uh greatly appreciated um couldn't do the show without you guys so thank you so much
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everybody who uh sent in a chat really appreciate it we will be live again sunday we might be doing
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maybe we'll have to see maybe something friday saturday gotta see but we will certainly be live
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again sunday with our dating talk 5 p.m pacific any girls who want to be on the show dm out whatever
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on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara um let me just see i'll do twitch try to get twitch
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raid going for somebody let's see one sec boys one sec uh any final thoughts before i wrap up the show
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speak now forever hold your peace i do want to say something one of the tts it said something about
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being able to recommend your mistake whatever something yes i have a mistake when it comes to
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dating is i always try to make sure that people see me as trustworthy instead of me making sure that
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they are trustworthy so i really wanted to say that but yeah amen lord of donated 40 the big one the
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coat hanger survivor that big one is demonic and it hates andrew and rachel because they speak a truth
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that cannot be known by it i've never had a coat hanger ripped rich and rare donated 30
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fat boy andrew should be the last one talking shit about someone's weight he has bigger tits than
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all the girls on panels combined fat boy jiggled them big old titties jiggly m big tits he's he's gone
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he's gone thank you for the uh the tts there bro um appreciate it thank you thank you who are we
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rating on twitch we'll do uh uh while i'm figuring that out who's the primary victim of war men or women
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everyone involved in war it's pretty awful but if you have to pick one
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um i would say men physically die more in war so i'd say men what about you men
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men men men babies and baby animals men into the into the mic babies and baby animals all right guys
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uh guys i just want to do a quick shout out um get ariana grande's new album thank you next thank you
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next we should honestly or god is a woman god is a woman that is the one uh we should have really
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leaned in every time star talked we should have just as soon as she finished thank you next yeah
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every single time every single time to be extra extra who i don't know if anybody's uh i don't know
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this guy's playing wukong i don't know if i want to raid i guess i'll just do i whoa grandma we can't
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even pull it up there's uh peshero but uh i'll just fucking throw it to whoa grandma uh okay let's see
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hold on let me see if there's any more did i pause it let me check guys um one sec boys just want to make
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sure everything's good uh oh call to action who does anyone here do of oh yeah okay uh final call
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to action uh are you willing to uh stop being a strumpet no i i said i wouldn't accept the job offer
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but i appreciate it okay i tried thank you i tried i'm doing more things though that's good that's
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big things out here i am she does big things big things pop in small straight stop it she's
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gardening the bush oh god watering the bush all right i think that's it for all the chats guys uh
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let's see let me just uh okay i is that everything are we forgetting anything i feel like we're forgetting
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something i'm i'm i think we're set blm wait did i raid her oh wait let me just do the raid okay
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those of you who watch on twitch thank you guys for watching on twitch i can't pull it we're not
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going to pull it up but will grandma's rating on twitch i'm going to send you over there doing a
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raid hope you guys be nice to her she's uh 82 she plays world of warcraft be nice um thank you for
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watching on twitch i'm going to send that in 10 seconds but oh before you leave twitch.tv slash whatever
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drop us a follow drop us a prime sub if you guys have one and what else i want to play a sound i've
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never played i haven't played in a while oh god i used to do drugs i still do but i used to too
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all right w wait wait used a what you want me to play it again it's mitch headberg i used to do drugs
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i still do but i used to too boom boom boom boom thank you next all right guys like the video on
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your way out please oh sevens in the chat oh sevens in the chat i hope you guys have a really good night
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we'll be back with the dating talk on sunday good night guys