Rachel Wilson DEBATES Feminists! GOTH GIRL! Fake VlRGlN？! E-GIRLS! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ｜ Dating Talk #165
Episode Stats
Length
6 hours and 56 minutes
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191.48347
Hate Speech Sentences
545
Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have our first guest, a Twitch streamer and actress named Celeste, join us to talk about the BTS girl who attacked Nick and how she plans to fix her chat problems.
Transcript
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating
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hellscape. I'm your host, Brian Atlas. Thanks for tuning in tonight. You could be anywhere
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movement, Big Labia Matter, or BLM for short. It's really the pressing issue of our time. If
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you can't catch the full shows, we have a clips channel. Speaking of. Lol Paladins donated
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$69. Don't even need the introductions. I can fix her chat. You can fix her. There you
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go. Which one though? Okay. We have clips channels, guys. Three clips channels. Two of
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those links are in the description. You can find that, find it on like our main channel
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page also. We have a private Patreon members only. Discord, discord.gg slash whatever link
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is in the description. We posted the BTS of the girl who attacked Nick the other
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day. You can check it out on there. And we're going to be posting more like BTS stuff. Disclaimer,
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the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel.
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With that said, and without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation. Go ahead.
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Hi, I'm Celeste. I go by CelesteXXX online. I just turned 22 years old. I'm from Portland,
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Oregon, but currently I am staying in LA. And my main job is OnlyFans, but I also tattoo.
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I make clothes. I do photography and videography. I'm an artist, but OnlyFans is my main job.
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I'm Mackenzie. I'm 19 years old. I'm originally from Minnesota, but I moved to LA a couple months
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ago. My occupation, I'm a model and actress and Twitch streamer. I also do social media.
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And yeah, also, heads up, chat. This is so awkward to say. I have a disorder. Huh? Close
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the mic. I have a disorder where I do weird faces and noises and stuff. Just ignore it.
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So there's like Tourette's and like anxiety tics and things like that. So, yeah.
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Okay. Good to know. Good to know. And you do, you said you do content creation?
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No. So, uh, can I like go into something? Um, I have something called fan fix. It's like
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Okay. Bear in the woods. If you can't do windows, cook or clean, stay the F out of the woods.
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The streets want you, not the bear in the woods. Thank you. Have a good stream. Okay.
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Thank you. Bear in the woods. Appreciate it. Maybe we'll talk about the whole bear thing
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a little later on in the show. By the way, $69 TTS for the first 30 minutes of the stream.
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My name is Carly. I'm 23 and I am a UCSB student and a barista. That's about it.
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I noticed you're wearing a cross. You've been on the show twice before. I thought you were
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I'm not an atheist. I'm not Christian. I just wanted to, I wanted to fit in. I thought it would
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fit the vibe tonight. And I think it, I think I was right. So.
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I, just from the pre-show conversations I've heard, I think.
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Extending an olive branch. It's like, uh, finding common ground.
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Poor Hopper underscore outdoors donated $69. Bevo the cuck will let you shack his missus
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Uh, yeah. We'll get into, I'll, I'll get into the whole drama of whatever, like, all that
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at the end of the stream. So, uh, yeah. So, wait, so you're not Christian, but you're wearing
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I am not Christian. I was raised Christian, so I have a lot of just, like, cross jewelry
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So, like, how do you consider, how do you identify religiously? Agnostic?
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Yeah, I would say, like, agnostic. I, I do believe there's a higher power, but I, as a
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child, sort of stopped believing. I went to, like, Bible camp and everything, like, youth
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Well, who here is actually religious? I mean, one, two, three, four. So, it's, like, mixed
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Yeah. It's just these two, we're getting into it. Orthodox, Christian. What's your denomination?
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I'm non-denominational, non-denomination Protestant. Okay, yeah, so.
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My name is Julia. I am 29. I am a technology consultant, and I live in Washington, D.C.
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My name is Leonardo. I'm 33. I'm originally from New York, and I am a stand-up comedian.
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I also have a disorder that just makes me sound like a bitch.
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Okay, my name is Riley Mae Lewis. I am 20 years old. I live in Los Angeles, California,
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Okay. My name is Gianna. I am 18 years old, and I originally live in L.A., but right now
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My name is Rekha. I'm a third-year UCSB student, and I study communications. I'm 19.
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I actually just took a gap term in New York, so I'm back visiting for a week and got lucky
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Yeah, right now, and then I'm coming back to UCSB next school year.
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So you did sprint. Is it quarter or semester at UCSB?
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It's quarter. I honestly don't know. It might be semester. I honestly don't know.
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So you were going to – did you do – wait, because you said you're a third-year at UCSB.
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You're going into your third-year, or you're currently a third-year?
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Ladies, what is the largest peen you've ever had?
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For Brian, what are the largest breasts you've ever experienced sexually?
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All right. We're going to have to save that for a little later, okay?
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But I will make a note to let you know – by the way, we can only do one question per chat, so okay.
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I just took, like, a little gap term. Take a break.
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So you're originally from – you said that you spent the time in New York?
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Yeah, because you've got a bit of a southern accent.
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So wait, what were you doing in New York? Like a sugar daddy there or something?
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I was just a hostess and taking some classes at NYU.
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And wait, so you're – and then you're going to go – you're here for a week, go back
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to New York, and then in the – you're coming back for the fall.
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I'm from Southern California, outside of L.A., and I go to school in Washington, D.C., and
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Been watching all your videos on – love your work.
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But, yo, thank you for tuning in from Australia, man.
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What branch of the military are you in over there in Australia?
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And where – are you, like, stationed somewhere, or are you still in Australia?
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I'm 43 years old, stay-at-home mom, wife, homemaker, researcher, author, and the patriarchy gave me a day pass to be here via Andrew.
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I'll be right back to – chained to the stove tomorrow.
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So, we're going to go around the table once more.
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What is everybody's current relationship status?
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So, are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex, cult, harem, whatever it may be?
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If you're single, how long have you been single?
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And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in, starting with you?
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I'm currently single, and I've been single for, like, six months now.
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And was that the one that ended six months ago?
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So, I don't care what you got in between your legs.
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Well, what do you – how do you consider yourself?
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If I were to introduce myself, I would go by she, her.
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And the person that you dated six months ago, was that?
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So, you know, I was doing my part for the community.
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And then your one-year relationship, was that a man or a woman?
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Rachel, I bet that fat boy grabs your bras in the morning.
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You settled for attending Charm Simp with big tits.
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Pull up his shirt and tell me you're fucking proud of that shit.
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Andrew, if you're watching – if you're watching, shave your arms.
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There's this – I think that's probably a fan who's just kind of like –
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Her husband was on this live show, and then there's this like other guy who's like this
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And, like, Andrew is – me and him, like, we're going to be joining Weight Watchers
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You know, we're both a little on the chunky side.
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My buddy was arrested in Houston by a SWAT team.
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Their underscore in underscore the underscore was donated $69.
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The fish I cooked an hour ago was also pansexual.
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So, the one-year relationship, that was also a man?
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I've been single for about, I don't know, like a year and a half now.
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My longest relationship and, like, only real relationship was about two years.
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Could we have you scoot into the table just a tad?
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Um, I mean, I'm kind of just, like, going on dates, but I'm not, like, dating anyone.
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Was it the first date, second date, third date?
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What do you guys think of black pancake peoples?
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Bro, y'all got, y'all are out of pocket tonight.
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You can't ask fucking ridiculous questions like that.
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Okay, yeah, let's hear, yeah, we'll give it to you.
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Black pancake nipples are a little disappointing, because they never taste as sweet as they look,
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And you know what they say, once you go black nipples.
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It's good that someone has experience on that topic.
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Brickson looking forward to another great show.
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If he asked you on a date, would you accept, remember to bow as his girlfriend?
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They, they, they, they are, they are on their own.
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I'm not, uh, I don't consider myself an alpha male, but thank you for the, uh, for the endorsement
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Well, I'll ask the girls the question in addition to the large peen one that I already have loaded
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I'll, we'll, we'll, we'll ask that after we get through the relationship status, would
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So is there going to be a second date with this, this guy or no?
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So you went on the first date last week and there's going to be a second date soon.
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Well, we had the second date because I was going out of town.
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You think it's going to go the distance or what do you think?
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What do you think the people that have got it, like, got?
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I've never got, I can't, I can't, I can't get a boob job.
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I mean, it's a new relationship, I guess, but it's the same person, so.
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I think, I think last time I was on, I said I'd been single for like six months or so.
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Uh, what, what time of night did you reach back out to him?
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I think it, I think it was after class actually.
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So you might be onto something with the midterms.
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In Western Europe, legal prostitution is cheap.
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No hustle brothels with endless super hot tens.
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So people way overpay only fans slash strippers slash sugar babies.
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I, I was in, uh, Amsterdam in the red light district, like for a long time, not for, for
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No, we did like a, this is great, a prank video, but the integrated life channel donated $69.
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Ask the women to name three of Shakespeare's plays.
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Othello, Midsummer's Night Dream, Romeo and Juliet.
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The last time I, I was dating someone, um, about two months ago.
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And, um, my longest relationship was three years.
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How long were you dating the guy two months ago?
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Um, probably cause he was six years younger than me.
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And so there was just, you know, there was what?
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Um, I think that we were just in different places in our life.
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We have been in the same church and like for the past two years.
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And then it was kind of like we were at this party and it was kind of like the skills came
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off our eyes and we were like, Oh, you're interesting.
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And now before the show, I heard you saying something about
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Aussie infantry donated $69, not in the military just yet going in on the fourth to basic training
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for infantry, going to retread the female personnel, hashtag occult famism, going to the
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Wait, so there, I'm assuming like, is there the army, the Navy, um, just curious which
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I also shitpost on the internet and super chat on the whatever podcast.
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I'll have you know that everybody who super chats and donates and sends in TTSs, they're
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all giga chat, six foot five, big keen alpha males.
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To know about y'all, but I see pancake nipples and be like a...
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Uh, I think my longest relationship, I was married for four years that ended because he
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was a malcontent person who could not go without starting a fight for no reason.
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So you, uh, you guys got a divorce, I'm assuming.
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How long have you been seeing your current, uh, partner?
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I am in a fully committed, one-sided, open relationship.
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I'm in a fully, I'm in a fully committed, one-sided, open relationship on his side.
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So you're monogamous and he's sleeping with other women.
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I'm organizing a private charter plane abroad for men to meet beautiful
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traditional women who will treat you like a king.
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Western women are so screwed up and there's no reset button dot one in chat for a seat.
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What do these people think the women in your, I'm from Europe, by the way, I was born in
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Montenegro and, uh, you're going to get a handful, buddy.
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We thank Brian for the autographed blue-white cup.
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I feel like we need to, you know, get some, some, um, you know, they could get damaged.
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You want to maybe get some insurance on the cup, just saying, when you go back.
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Yeah, so how long have you been in the relationship for?
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Um, I've been in that relationship for a little bit over a year now.
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So do you guys have, like, threesomes or not even that?
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Um, if, if that possibility were to arise, um, which it could have.
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Didn't you know if you're having threesomes or not?
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Yes, I am in a fully committed, one-sided, open relationship on his side.
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So he fucks other women, she, she can't fuck men.
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He is allowed to get with anyone, and I am not allowed to get with anyone.
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He checks every single box that a girl could possibly want, and every girl goes for a man
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that's in the top 1%, and there's not that much to go around.
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But, like, what is the benefit of him being rich if you have to be doing OnlyFans?
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But, like, what benefits, like, does he pay for shit?
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What are you doing with the rest of your money?
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I'm going to go double team some girls tonight.
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Like, if he goes out and smashes other girls, like, you're going to wait 24 hours
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I'm pretty understanding to it, as long as there's, like, not too much of an emotional
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Do you feel, like, when he goes out with a girl, do you feel some type of way about it?
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Like, do you feel kind of like, damn, I wish he didn't?
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Even though you've accepted it, you're cool with it.
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And, I mean, there's a reason why he's doing it.
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I mean, of course, like, you're always going to be, like, you know, there's always going
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But, like, it's not, it's, you have to understand, like, why he is able to do that.
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But I just don't, I just don't want to put that information out there.
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I was just reading a message that Rachel sent me.
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So, how frequently is he getting involved with other women?
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But in the past, I actually, I probably shouldn't be saying this.
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I don't know anything about their private lives.
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Wait, are you guys, like, roommates, housemates?
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I'm currently in a relationship, and my longest relationship is two years.
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How long has your current situation been going on?
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We've been dating for almost about five months.
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Well, I've known him since I was, like, much younger.
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Mike Davis donated $69 to the mid girl who spoke out of turn.
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Planes going to countries with beautiful African queens and Russia, Ukraine, where the ratio is good.
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Well, are you going to a cannibal African country?
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Is the brunette one of the girls he's getting with.
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So, Nick, can you pull up quick a photo of Mike Davis?
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Oh, is that why she's like, I don't know anything?
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By the way, just FYI for TTS is if there's, like, any cursing, it won't trigger the robot voice.
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Well, Slaying Erect, meaning I make people, make men lose their boners.
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If any of you in the chat want to go with him on his airplane, one in the chat, any passport pros out there, one in the chat.
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He owns, like, 200 Burger Kings on the East Coast.
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I think I was asking how you met your boyfriend.
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Oh, you said, like, you guys knew each other, like, from school or whatever.
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Yeah, well, we didn't go to the same school, but, like, same soccer team.
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So, I got out of a relationship about two weeks ago.
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And before, that relationship was, like, two months.
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And before that, I was in, like, a one-year situationship that, of course, ended really
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badly because he didn't want to date me, and I did.
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And, you know, I tried to move on quick and date this new guy, but honestly, I just didn't
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And after two months, I just ended it because it was not working out.
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Two weeks ago, you ended it with a guy you were seeing for about two months, correct?
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But during that two-month period with that guy, you were still hung up on the one-year
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And do you think there were issues in your most recent situation because you were hung up
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Well, and the fact that he was, like, really into social media, like, more so than me.
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And was this guy, you're in New York right now, right?
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So, you're dating, he's really into social media.
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Wait, does he do, like, what's the term for, like, print?
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Well, there's, like, the guy, Instagram guys, but he actually, like, there's the models
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He's, like, a not famous model, which is, like, even worse.
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Guys, if you want two more minutes on the 69, then I'm going to bump it.
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And when you say situationship, so at no point in the relationship did you refer to each other
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I mean, I would call him my boyfriend sometimes.
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Okay, but you guys never had an overt conversation about, like, a title, or are we exclusive?
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We had the conversation, and he told me that he doesn't believe in titles, and he didn't
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want to be exclusive because he wanted to be with multiple women.
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How soon into the situationship did you guys have that conversation?
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Okay, so two months into it, he overtly states he doesn't want a title, and he doesn't want
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And then you proceeded to stay with him for ten months?
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Her partner is FTM Trans, whose numerous Mexican children are crisis actors, just like the Obamas.
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Yeah, 100% a troll, but I do like female to male trans, you know, because...
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Yeah, and I try to get some Mexican children so that I can...
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This guy wants to troll, I'll troll him right back.
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Imagine spending $69 and writing a loser troll like that.
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So, when you first had the conversation of, I want a title, I want to be exclusive, he said no.
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I was like, well, I can't keep doing this anymore if you're going to do that.
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Orders from the Grand Inquisitor to the lady wearing the Led Zeppelin t-shirt.
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You are not authorized to wear a t-shirt with that band name.
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Please change into one with music appropriate for your age.
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I'm not going to lie because I knew you were going to ask that.
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This is one of my ex-boyfriends, so he was like really into guitar.
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I feel like it's a sentimental piece I have and it was like fitting for today.
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I love how you knew they were going to ask that question and you didn't come prepared with one.
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You broke up with him and then, so, but then you got back together how soon thereafter?
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So, you dumped him, but then, oh man, you got, you got dick whipped.
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So, you, and then, because, let me ask, in your mind, it was better to have him in your
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life, even if without commitment, than to be without him.
00:37:13.160
Because he was also my best friend and we were, like, living in my car together.
00:37:23.820
I was in, like, living in the dorms and we had been kicked out of the dorms.
00:37:33.520
Wait, what, how did, why did you get kicked out of the dorms?
00:37:36.260
My roommate reported me for, like, 13 different things.
00:37:39.760
And after the 13th thing, they were, like, get the fuck out of here.
00:38:08.700
How did you, like, what was, like, the main reasons you got kicked out of the dorm?
00:38:26.800
Like, drug-related, fire-related, pyro-related.
00:39:04.280
And I put up a bookshelf so I wouldn't have to see it.
00:39:07.380
And then sometimes I'd have to go to the bathroom.
00:39:15.660
Sometimes I would just walk by and slam the door.
00:39:27.840
I feel like it takes a lot to get kicked out of the dorms.
00:39:41.660
Like, I had to sit out on the lawn for a little bit.
00:40:05.700
You didn't try to find, like, a local apartment here in Santa Barbara or something?
00:40:12.540
That would have, like, costed money that I didn't have at the moment.
00:40:39.080
How many times was it on again, off again with the guy?
00:40:42.820
And were you both living in the car during an off period?
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Lead underscore Zeppelin's underscore nasal underscore cavity donated $69.
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Was there an off again period while you guys were living in the car together?
00:41:08.320
It was really awkward because I came back one night and found, like, we had, you know,
00:41:13.420
kept all of our, like, bottles of alcohol and stuff and I came back and all of my stuff,
00:41:17.660
all of my alcohol and drugs at the time were gone.
00:41:21.120
And he had dirty condoms laying all over the car.
00:42:02.540
Because there's, like, different dorm buildings at UCSB.
00:42:06.560
Like, not the same room as you, but, like, the same dorm?
00:42:25.720
But, so, you got kicked out because of stuff you were doing in your room.
00:42:36.480
He didn't officially get, like, kicked out until the end of the year.
00:42:42.480
Let Zeppelin really be talking like she's the main character-it girl.
00:42:46.780
Fellas, this is your fault for validating fours like that.
00:42:50.560
I'm about to leave you all on the runway if you'll keep enabling this.
00:43:06.860
I actually do want to commend you for being, like, totally forthcoming.
00:43:09.200
Being honest with all this stuff because, uh, that's interesting.
00:43:12.540
So, just getting back to the relationship dynamic type stuff.
00:43:15.820
So, how many times would you say it was on again, off again?
00:43:27.080
Like, there were many times where he would be like,
00:43:28.900
we shouldn't do this anymore because I obviously don't want anything serious with you.
00:43:34.440
And this is, like, not going to keep working out.
00:43:36.040
And then I just kept going back being, like, I want to fuck because I like you.
00:43:48.820
But was it more often than not, even if he would end it, you would be the one going back?
00:43:58.540
Like, I'm saying all this because I would never do that now.
00:44:00.600
And so, like, how would that work, like, during the homeless period?
00:44:02.920
Would you, like, drive by the homeless encampment to try to find him or, like...
00:44:10.800
Like, just, like, chilling in the car most of the time.
00:44:17.480
What did your parents think of you getting kicked out of the dorms?
00:44:22.980
I have a very tough relationship with my parents.
00:44:36.120
I just want to get a few more clarifying questions in.
00:45:03.700
Are you planning to meet up with him while you're here?
00:45:44.060
So, but he never was willing to give you commitment or a title, correct?
00:46:05.380
I just got into a relationship not that long ago.
00:46:08.120
And my longest relationship was nine months in high school, so...
00:46:38.360
I've been in a relationship for 17 years with the legend, Andrew.
00:46:44.500
And since I already see my haters, my very dedicated and committed haters, sending super
00:46:49.400
chats, yes, let's just address the elephant in the room.
00:46:53.000
I have children with my two previous relationships.
00:47:00.600
I have crazy trolls who've made all kinds of videos saying wild, nutty things.
00:47:11.900
I've been in three long-term committed relationships, two marriages.
00:47:23.060
Andrew was not married and cheating on some person with me.
00:47:30.120
But we can get into that if people just have to know about what happened in my life 23 years ago.
00:47:38.940
By the way, guys, we have just boosted the read and TTS triggers back up to the normal.
00:47:48.500
We got everybody's current relationship status.
00:47:51.780
So, I want to see if there's anything I wanted to – wait.
00:48:13.180
And I wanted to come, let's see, to – actually, let me just get into my pre-show notes here.
00:48:35.680
I don't – no, I just – I'm a hardcore conspiracy theorist.
00:48:40.180
And I realize the truth about a lot of propaganda that's being fed both – both to feminists
00:48:45.500
and the red pill male community, which is the male version of feminism.
00:48:51.120
And then I see the repercussions of that on women, even here, right, because they teach
00:49:04.800
Well, I think communists have taken over our whole system.
00:49:08.260
I think they've taken over the university system.
00:49:13.080
They put – they push promiscuity, degeneracy as liberation.
00:49:18.200
And the only ones who benefit off of women freely giving away sex are deadbeat guys who
00:49:26.740
So, your guy in the car is a verifiable loser who will probably never do anything with
00:49:35.560
He was hanging around because he had a free ride with you, and he gave you just enough
00:49:43.780
And I try to do my best to tell young women that they're under the thumb of oppression,
00:49:49.680
even though it's being presented to them as liberation.
00:50:06.820
I would agree with everything you said about this guy, although you are 19 years old, and
00:50:11.740
I feel like that's just a classic 19-year-old experience.
00:50:15.140
I don't know what that has to do with feminism at all.
00:50:16.640
It's a classic – well, I'll tell you right now.
00:50:22.620
Mrs. Wilson, F the haters, you owe no one any explanations, and your haters will never
00:50:30.240
Your actions speak louder than any words they can scream.
00:50:40.740
So what that has to do with feminism – first of all, it's not a common 19-year-old experience.
00:50:45.160
It's presented as a common 19-year-old experience, and it's relatively new in our modern age,
00:50:49.840
and you really want to say probably since the mid-'90s, early 2000s, and that's really
00:50:54.280
when this whole promiscuity with women's been pushed.
00:50:57.380
Second of all, the reason it has to do with feminism is because feminism teaches women
00:51:01.200
that having casual sex with a man is within their scope of being equal and on par with men,
00:51:08.180
and by being that way, they are liberated and empowered, which is total BS, whereas women
00:51:13.340
have known for centuries that their sex was of huge value and would demand something in
00:51:19.560
return for that that would actually show them their worth.
00:51:23.400
So that's exactly what it has to do with feminism.
00:51:26.060
I don't think that I have ever heard that from – when did you graduate college?
00:51:36.040
Okay, so it's been a while since you've been in college, so I'm not sure.
00:51:40.340
I didn't have this in my college education, by the way.
00:51:42.760
I went to a Jesuit university that was pretty fantastic and did not give me this BS.
00:51:48.540
I was going to say, I mean, I'm currently in college for a little bit too long, and I
00:51:52.840
have never heard any of this from any professors.
00:52:07.080
You don't hear Cardi B and what's-her-face being like my wet-ass pussy.
00:52:10.200
I'll give you Cardi B, maybe music, maybe, like, rap music.
00:52:15.000
The fact that that's in the mainstream means it's been accepted by people.
00:52:18.340
They could have never put that on TV 40 years ago.
00:52:20.080
I mean, women were accepting pretty brutal treatment from men pre-feminism.
00:52:31.960
I know what was happening in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s.
00:52:36.580
From the perspective of your two parents, you're going to generalize to the whole population?
00:52:42.760
I mean, are you going to generalize the population from her experience with a bum?
00:52:50.320
And I am currently in college, and I'm telling you that no one I know who's a SOCH major,
00:52:55.760
I don't know any feminist studies majors, but none of them are hearing this.
00:53:05.820
But are women on campus engaging in casual hookups?
00:53:09.180
And they were also doing that in the 90s, 80s, 70s, even the 60s and the 50s.
00:53:13.480
You're talking about the sexual revolution, right?
00:53:17.420
Yeah, well, I mean, that is when the sexual revolution was happening, right?
00:53:24.580
Do I know, like, there is no set point that feminism started.
00:53:25.920
No, you don't have to know the day that feminism started.
00:53:33.000
I was going to say, like, I would say, like, as an actual political movement, probably,
00:53:36.980
like, the early 1900s, late 1800s, but I think...
00:53:42.560
No, not just that, but I mean, like, having a sort of, like, political...
00:53:46.460
Political consciousness that women are lacking something politically and, like, trying to
00:53:51.920
think, what was it, like, John Adams' wife, and don't forget the ladies, like, that kind
00:53:55.140
of stuff has been around for a long, long time.
00:53:57.540
And this sexual push to make women be more promiscuous, do you know when that really
00:54:03.820
I mean, if we're talking about, like, the sexual revolution, I would say probably late
00:54:08.360
So that would be the whole time period that you were saying that women were engaging in
00:54:11.920
Well, no, women were engaging in casual sex before the sexual revolution.
00:54:15.220
I think that the push was more to normalize it.
00:54:18.900
And I'm not saying that I think that it's a good thing.
00:54:22.420
You don't see the connection to feminism with that.
00:54:24.720
No, obviously, the sexual revolution is connected to feminism.
00:54:27.400
I'm saying that casual sex was happening before that.
00:54:31.520
You don't see the push between casual sex and women.
00:54:35.360
I mean, there is a low consciousness among women these days about what they can command
00:54:46.060
I think that women accept subpar treatment constantly, but I don't think it's feminism's
00:54:50.320
I think it's 100% the consequence of feminism, which is ironic.
00:54:53.460
But again, I think we live in a satanic world that presents everything upside down from
00:54:59.340
So they present to you feminism as your liberation and your empowerment, and it ends up doing
00:55:08.480
Do you think every woman looks to Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion for their guiding morals?
00:55:22.200
You put on rap music, they're talking about it.
00:55:28.080
The white people music where they're like playing...
00:55:35.420
They're talking about the same stuff, you know?
00:55:39.000
Like when you are swimming in the water, you cannot see it.
00:55:43.240
Once you start to see it, you see it everywhere and it's pretty disgusting.
00:55:48.680
My question is what would be an effective counter movement?
00:55:51.300
Because it seems like you're saying that women are being oppressed.
00:55:55.260
So wouldn't a movement for women's actual liberation...
00:56:01.400
See, that's the best thing a demon can do is get you to hurt yourself and harm yourself.
00:56:07.140
So wouldn't we want to elevate women's conscious about that?
00:56:14.040
In my opinion, I think, you know, feminism has changed over time.
00:56:18.680
And I think it would be a really effective movement to take back feminism because I feel
00:56:25.020
like you guys agree on a lot of the stuff about casual sex isn't beneficial for women.
00:56:30.320
And an effective way to communicate that to women is to say, I'm a feminist.
00:56:43.400
Feminism as it is was constructed by the CIA with Gloria Steinem.
00:56:58.100
I don't ascribe to being a Democrat or a Republican.
00:57:01.260
I think they're both pieces of shit most of the time.
00:57:04.260
But I think the more effective thing would be, I think you need to approach women with
00:57:19.160
I don't really think they're thinking most of the time.
00:57:21.900
Well, if they don't respond to feminism, then how are they getting these messages that feminism
00:57:25.660
And how are they implementing that in their lives?
00:57:31.760
I said I don't think they're thinking about it.
00:57:34.140
A lot of times, when things are advanced on many levels, we accept it without conscious
00:57:42.080
Like, for example, everybody thinks we should drink eight glasses of water a day.
00:57:45.440
We weren't doing that when we were in the wild.
00:57:50.600
Well, I think it's because they put fluoride in the water, and they want everybody getting
00:57:57.080
Because I'll always tie something back to fluoride, dude.
00:57:59.680
I think fluoride makes people passive, and it makes you passive.
00:58:04.000
It lowers your IQ, and it makes you unresistant to propaganda.
00:58:08.100
And now, you said in your pre-show notes that you think that you kind of already touched
00:58:19.040
I think they did it to the men first with James Bond and presenting this guy as, like,
00:58:26.520
Yeah, if you know who wrote the James Bond novels, he was actually an intelligence officer.
00:58:31.260
It's to make the intelligence agencies seem cool, and like they're protecting you, and
00:58:35.900
And then, in addition to that, they threw in a sexual promiscuity angle for men, so that
00:58:43.660
Now, there always have been men within the population, it's a small percentage, who were
00:58:53.920
However, that was not the preponderance of men who acted that way.
00:58:57.440
Most men wanted to find a woman, wanted to cherish her, wanted to have children, wanted
00:59:03.540
Well, I still feel like that doesn't really answer what would be an effective way to combat
00:59:09.240
My thing that I think the effective way to combat that is, number one, to raise awareness
00:59:13.200
so that women can understand what they're being presented with.
00:59:15.880
Well, would that be effective through feminism?
00:59:22.020
Well, I'm saying you hijack the movement and you change it.
00:59:24.460
The movement has changed so much through time that you can just say-
00:59:28.740
What should the new messaging of the new feminist movement be?
00:59:32.040
Well, I mean, I think that we understand that the sexual revolution and women having casual
00:59:37.820
sex, it's been painted as, you know, as beneficial.
00:59:47.780
You cannot think that that is what most women are thinking.
00:59:53.540
That's why I'm saying it would be more effective to communicate that through saying, I'm on your
00:59:59.260
You know, I feel like it's just not really very effective to communicate that through
01:00:03.720
saying, you know, just feminism gives a really good framework for saying, I support women's
01:00:21.980
When you ask a woman what's feminism liberating you from, she'll say the evil patriarchy.
01:00:27.380
And I mean, would you say that it's sort of a patriarchy that women are under, that men
01:00:33.080
are using women for just, you know, sex and no marriage or anything?
01:00:37.060
I think women are, there's some women that are complicit in that.
01:00:39.300
Like, for example, Gloria Steinem was part of that.
01:00:41.460
Frankly, I think it's because she was ugly and nobody liked her.
01:00:44.000
And then she wanted to go ahead and reduce other women to her competitive level because
01:00:47.540
she could never compete with a truly beautiful and intelligent woman.
01:00:50.900
And so she's decided to reduce everybody's worth by doing this.
01:00:55.920
And I know older women who go through the feminist thing realize they're miserable.
01:01:04.100
Which I'm not saying every woman needs to do that.
01:01:06.180
But a lot of women will realize that they've missed something.
01:01:08.820
And then instead of owning to their mistakes and teaching younger girls to not go that way,
01:01:20.980
And I think taking it out of an ideology of like, oh, it has to be feminism.
01:01:25.800
Because I think if you really focus more on like an overall morality, and that can be
01:01:34.420
Like this, there's been a wave of, we don't want a religion, right?
01:01:39.960
Like America is getting increasingly secularized.
01:01:43.560
And so then when we want to create morals, we have to then hide behind a political ideology
01:01:50.080
or like, like feminism or communism or an ism, because we can't align our, to get our
01:01:56.060
morals, because we can't align with a religious, a religion.
01:02:04.040
And so that's why it's like, oh, but now if I'm not a feminist, I'm anti-woman.
01:02:07.260
And there's all, there's all this kind of weight behind either being a feminist or not
01:02:13.260
And, and, and that's where, so now like politics has trying to take the role of what religion
01:02:20.860
And I think that's where it's getting so detrimental.
01:02:29.820
Can we talk about Disney and the princess effect?
01:02:32.200
How about Rockefeller and the public school system?
01:02:35.860
So many control mechanisms, so little patriarchy.
01:02:40.600
I'm not familiar with Disney and the princess effect, but I am familiar with Rockefeller,
01:02:45.180
the public school system and the way they took over the medical system and pretty much just,
01:02:51.300
they are advancing a lot of control mechanisms that way because they put people in schools
01:02:55.260
and indoctrinate them from a young age with these thoughts.
01:02:57.660
But I don't, the reason I don't think that it presents well to say I'm a feminist is
01:03:02.940
because number one, feminism already has such a clear meaning and definition for people.
01:03:08.940
Based on what you guys say about feminism, it doesn't because you say things that are completely
01:03:13.740
at odds with what I hear, actual people my age who are in college, what they think about
01:03:18.540
It doesn't seem like you're really in tune with-
01:03:19.840
What do people your age think about it, about feminism?
01:03:21.940
They don't think that it's a conspiracy being, you know, like an antinatalist satanic conspiracy.
01:03:26.140
No, I think, I think you might have a little something going on, but I think that, I think
01:03:32.720
You got to qualify that statement a little bit.
01:03:34.900
She's calling me crazy, even though it's well documented that Gloria Steinem was a CIA agent.
01:03:40.560
I think you have a little conspiracy minded thing going on where you're looking for a conspiracy
01:03:45.620
No, I just am informed and educated and I'm not arrogant enough to assume that my ignorance
01:03:51.480
I mean, I can also say I'm informed and educated and I've, you know, like we can go back and
01:03:57.500
Well, so do you know then that what she's saying about Gloria Steinem is not only correct, but
01:04:02.140
that through the Congress for Cultural Freedom in the 60s and 70s, the CIA was pushing feminism
01:04:07.200
through like 40 different publications around the world.
01:04:12.600
I mean, so what sort of Gloria Steinem was like a CIA operative.
01:04:16.580
There's, Gloria Steinem is not the only feminist in the world.
01:04:19.260
It's not just her, I'm saying the Congress for Cultural Freedom, which was a widespread
01:04:23.320
CIA program that went around the world in dozens of countries and had hundreds of magazines,
01:04:34.460
This was like a broad effort during the Cold War to kind of differentiate Western liberal
01:04:42.700
So they pushed feminism in the sexual revolution.
01:04:44.820
I mean, are you anti like classical liberalism and Western liberal values?
01:04:51.180
I'm very curious what, I mean, maybe that's off topic, but-
01:04:55.180
You can be against communism and against Western liberalism.
01:04:58.180
I don't mean liberalism and like liberal versus conservative.
01:05:01.180
Classical liberalism, which is the American founding.
01:05:09.180
I was just going to say that, you know, I believe that you guys can be completely correct.
01:05:21.180
I think you're, I just disagree that that would be the best way.
01:05:26.180
To see a better route because I have personally, I mean, I have the same experience.
01:05:30.180
I've never had any friends who are genuine like feminists who read literature, um, say
01:05:34.180
that they're pro, um, casual sex and that it's really healthy for women to do that.
01:05:40.180
Well, here's what you guys need to understand is that feminism is anything that pushes back
01:05:46.180
against patriarchy and moves toward egalitarianism.
01:05:49.180
So if you think the sexes are equal, we should all have equal rights so we can get into rights
01:05:56.180
But, uh, anybody who is saying patriarchy is bad is feminist, whether they identify or
01:06:03.180
So if you think that just like, oh, we have to push for women to be equal with men and
01:06:11.180
That's all feminism, whether you think it is or not.
01:06:14.180
Well, I, you know, um, for like egalitarianism and stuff, um, from my understanding, uh, you believe
01:06:22.180
that egalitarianism means that men and women are just on equal planes or?
01:06:26.180
It means that they should have like equal rights and equality, equality of, some people
01:06:43.180
I just don't think that you guys will ever successfully convince or whatever movement
01:06:46.180
or not movement you want to be a part of will ever successfully convince the female population
01:07:02.180
What is it that women don't have now that men have?
01:07:03.180
I'm not saying that there is an imbalance currently or is or isn't.
01:07:08.180
We'll never be able to convince women to not fight for something that they already have.
01:07:13.180
If they already have it, then what about this problem you're talking about where women are
01:07:23.180
There's a direct correlation with levels of unhappiness of women documented.
01:07:28.180
So it sounds like women have something that men don't have, which you're claiming is
01:07:35.180
First of all, you said that women there that you'll never be able to stop.
01:07:39.180
You'll never be able to convince women to stop fighting for equal rights.
01:07:43.180
And I said, what is it that we don't have that men have in that department?
01:07:46.180
Now, what she's pointing out is a consequence of that very fight because the supposed.
01:07:56.180
Because it correlates directly with the rise of the movement.
01:07:59.180
But it also correlates with like, it correlates with crime passing.
01:08:04.180
You could blame it on a bunch of random things.
01:08:09.180
I'm saying you could literally point to any random event that happened throughout history
01:08:13.180
and say, well, this is why women started becoming unhappy.
01:08:18.180
However, there is strong connection between these things that we see women who continue along
01:08:24.180
the path that, quote unquote, feminism would get you to.
01:08:28.180
By the way, the extreme of feminism, because I did study feminism, is a lesbian separatist
01:08:33.180
feminism in which they want to live on an island away from men, use them for their semen,
01:08:44.180
My issue is, number one, I don't think men and women should be at each other's throats.
01:08:47.180
And this goes for the right-wing movement, too, which is a little bit of your podcast,
01:08:51.180
where they set men up to see women as these evil, manipulative creatures.
01:09:01.180
And then women are set up to see men as these evil, tyrannical, power-hungry creatures.
01:09:06.180
There are both of these things within the population.
01:09:11.180
But, however, to have a movement that continually tells women this is what they want from you sets us up to be unhappy
01:09:18.180
because I believe we are made to be in partnership with the other sex and not at war with them.
01:09:24.180
I think my problem with just what you're saying in general is I think we're diagnosing the same issue.
01:09:36.180
Please redirect the conversation to the left-hand corner of the table.
01:09:40.180
I have a really high run on the number of likes for this show.
01:09:51.180
I think that we have the same, like, we're diagnosing the same problem.
01:09:57.180
I'm, okay, I'm saying that my problem is that...
01:09:59.180
I think that men are taking advantage of women via casual sex and the sexual revolution.
01:10:07.180
I also think men themselves are a victim of this propaganda.
01:10:11.180
But I'm just saying I don't see an effective solution for it other than what I've proposed and I don't see you giving one.
01:10:19.180
I said I, I, I believe that we should approach women with compassion, raise their consciousness so they can truly understand the problem.
01:10:27.180
I could read my book and find out the truth about how all of this went down and that it wasn't this grassroots movement where women looked around in the 1800s and went,
01:10:36.180
We have to march in the streets until we have voting rights and bank accounts.
01:10:40.180
And that it was just this thing that's time had come because it's complete bullshit.
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It was an astroturf movement from the beginning, from, from the 1700s or even further back if you want to go there.
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Um, so this idea that there is even such a thing as like, Oh, we can have women's rights and egalitarianism only at the behest of the men who are going to enforce it for you anyway.
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Well, I think if you, if you just get through to women about some of these things, it will help.
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But also do we really want to like, depend on turning the opinion of women toward how things ought to be?
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I mean, I'm just, I'm only referring to the sexual revolution.
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Like I'm not talking necessarily about egalitarianism or anything.
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Um, I, I mean, you say we approach women with compassion.
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And I mean, I think the women who are reading your book are probably already, already agree with you.
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And yeah, I get messages every single day from women around the world who thought they were picking it up to debunk it.
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And then they read and they go, shit, they check the source material and they're like, damn, she's right.
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Well, I'm sure people can be, I, I'm sure that, um, a lot of people will read it and agree with you and change their minds.
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I'm just saying that wouldn't the most effective way to change people's minds who are already feminists be telling women you are being oppressed because of this same thing that we're all agreeing on.
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We can tell them it's bad for them, but that doesn't mean they're going to listen, especially when they're young in the entire culture.
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My prescription is by, um, basically psyoping feminism because I mean, she wants to hijack feminism and hijack feminism.
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Feminism, gender theory, and CRT are intertwined with Marxism.
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Victim mentality makes people fail and be unhappy.
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That's of the connection to women's unhappiness.
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We have another one coming in, so I'm just going to preempt it here just in a sec.
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We have, your shirt is arguing with the wrong person.
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The only smart woman other than Miss Wilson I've seen on this podcast in the past year, she should direct her rage elsewhere.
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We do have David Treziak who says, let's dance.
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Ironic shirt meaning for debate or double entange for dating show.
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Julia Child was in CIA and she could make a great pie too.
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You seem, you've been scowling for the past 20 minutes.
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Oh, no, I've just been like honestly like watching, sorry, watching back and forth.
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I just like, I kind of honestly got a little lost in the sauce on what they were talking
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about because I couldn't tell whether or not, at first I thought they were saying
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like, oh, they're feminists, but then I realized that they were saying they're not
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Do you think it's possible for women to be equal with men?
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I think that both genders definitely like bring different things to the table, you know?
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If they have the same jobs and everything, like equal pay, you know?
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And then if women have equal rights with men and they have the same opportunities, does
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that mean they should have the same responsibility?
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Should you have the same responsibility and authority to go with your rights?
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Well, I mean, I think any adult should, you know?
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Like I don't think it's whether you're a man or like a woman.
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I think if you're an adult, you should have responsibility for yourself in general as a
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Nick, are we at risk of getting a nip slip from this chick?
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Do you have pasties or anything you can put on?
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Nick, pull up the chat because they've been probably paying more attention than me.
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This TV show, it's hard for me, TV, it's hard for me to tell.
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Are we at risk of getting a fucking nip slip from this chick?
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Because otherwise we're going to have to, you're going to have to put on your jacket
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It's been getting, I've been looking, it's way too fucking close.
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Hey, would you stop oppressing her with your toxic masculinity, please?
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See, if these guys were smart, they would say no way.
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I know, I know what comes with the troubles of a nip slip.
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So if, if you guys were in danger, I wouldn't risk the biscuit.
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I mean, you have a jacket if you, if you get too.
01:16:38.180
I'm like in between being hot, cold, but like, no, I think I pulled up my shirt even
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Maybe just, can you put your shirt on a little bit just so we're not.
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So what I wanted to ask is, so you just outlined some rights that you think women should have.
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What, what would be an example of women's duties to society?
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Well, I mean, if they choose to be a mother, that's one of their duties, but like, you know,
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So is there a duty that women as a, because we know men have duties.
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And who else is going to build the infrastructure if men don't do it?
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Oh, I mean, I just think that men and women could do it.
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You know, I think there's, there's women in the force.
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Well, I'm pronouncing it, I guess, differently than you said, but I'm saying women.
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I can't hear the difference with a lot of these like younger girls.
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If, if men aren't out keeping the electrical grid up, there's going to be problems, right?
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I know it's more of a man's job, but like women can do that job too.
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Do you know what it entails to, to create, make, and lay concrete?
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That's impossible for women to go do an electrical.
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But there, I mean, but that, the thing is there are plenty of men who aren't doing
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So you could say it's a man's duty, but you can't generalize and say it's all men's
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Just like you can't generalize and say all women's duty is to have children.
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It's the duty of men to provide, protect, and build the nation.
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There are some, but that doesn't mean that we can't generalize.
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I see a lot of men who I don't think would last very long.
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I don't see any women that would be able to do it.
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But it doesn't, we can, we can talk about generalizations and outliers, but I'm asking,
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do women have any duties to society or is it just, she needs to do what makes her
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Because if you can't say that, cause if you say that, the birth rates are lower.
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Even Mexicans are below replacement now, but like lower, but that's not simulated saying
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I agree that there's a, there's a decline in terms of the value of motherhood.
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And I personally think that that should be something that is valued again.
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It's a very important role and there should be no shame in, in wanting to be a mother.
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And I think a lot of, you know, as a young woman, you get this, you're kind of torn where
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you're, you're definitely led on a path of education and that's important.
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I mean, education is great and we're, we are a more privileged generation.
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So our parents in general had enough money to like, at least want us to get an education.
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And then now, now you're in the crowd world and you, well, let me finish what I'm saying.
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So you, then you have a job, you get your job and then all of a sudden you're 29.
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Now you need, you have like a short time span to get into this relationship, to get married.
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If you've been on birth control, that's going to make it hard to actually conceive because
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that's going to, and that impacts your fertility for, you have to wait for that stuff to wear
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So I think that the age of responsibility of motherhood has been pushed out.
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But the problem is that because of like the biological restrictions and limitations of
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on a woman's body, we can't, we can't, uh, we feel that pressure.
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And so it's, it's this catch 22 and you want to.
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Well, but it's either you, you pursue education and get a career or you'd be a mom and that's
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That's why, because why are we telling young women to take your most fertile years when
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you should be having babies and spend that entire decade of your twenties chasing an
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education, which the average woman goes $40,000 into debt to get.
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And she makes an average of $40,000 a year, which is terrible deal.
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So we tell them to go to all this college, get into debt to get your degree and then do
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Like you just said, and then all of a sudden at 30 flip a switch and try to get at least
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I mean, and I don't think, I think 95% of y'all don't have any business being in a university
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I mean, it would be great if you could pause, if you could pause and like, and like, yeah,
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But like, that's no, you don't need to go to school.
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Have you ever taken a look at what they major in?
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Who's going to, who's going to do this anti-feminist movement?
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If there aren't learned, learned women in the world.
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I had my first baby at 20, the way the Lord intended.
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And you're obviously, you're obviously very intelligent and can speak for yourself.
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So I don't need a bullshit university degree and a bunch of debt.
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But I will say what like a realistic, just a reality is it's so expensive now.
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If you want to be a homeowner, if you want to do it.
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Who entered the workforce in mass in the 1970s?
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I wouldn't be able to have a triple digit body count and no kids.
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So does he want, does he not want your daughters to go to college?
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They've done, they've been homeschooled and then they were able to do a little bit of
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Like one of them does dental assisting, the other one does culinary arts.
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It's free education, no debt, something so they have a little job they can do until
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they get married because the world is the way it is.
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I'm not saying I don't understand the situation we're in, but I think it's a horrible idea.
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95% of women, they go to college, they get bullshit degrees and shit like interior designs
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Because they are mentally, well I can't say the word, but they're not well.
01:24:08.180
But what, so the issue I think that she was bringing up when you, when she was asking
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you about the rights is people don't understand that the minute there's a right, there's also
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a corresponding duty on somebody to enforce and allow that right.
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And so actually I think most rights are total BS, male and female, right?
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And I don't, I'm not, and I think you might have the idea that I'm in a prescription that
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somehow women should go back to being a second tier citizen or something, which I don't know
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I wasn't around in that time to say that we were.
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I don't necessarily agree that women shouldn't be educated because if women are going to raise
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children they should be intelligent enough to know how to raise those children and shouldn't
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But I do think that there is a push on all fronts for everybody to go to college as if
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I think intelligence and education are completely separate from college and university.
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I was just going to mention like they were talking about how like people aren't having
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kids or are raising families and someone already mentioned the cost of living and I
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Men do not want to assume duty because they are getting free sex.
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But that's because women are making it so easy.
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Women are posting bikini pictures on Instagram.
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I think men have this idea that they have to rack up.
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Men, they're freely telling you I have triple digit body counts like he's bragging instead
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of looking at the fact that he's lost all his morality and has subjected women to nothing
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Because you're just using another human being for your own sexual satisfaction.
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Sexual satisfaction is much different for men and women.
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Please tell us, Dr. Ruth, what is the difference?
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Having sexual relations as women, as women, sorry, having sexual relationships as women is
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Seriously, having sex as a woman is much different than having sex as a man.
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It's purely their evolutionary descent, you know.
01:26:41.180
But I think it takes a certain, like, moral, like, to be a man and to choose not to.
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And don't you think that there's probably a reason for that?
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Don't you think there's probably a reason for that?
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Isn't there probably a reason that we want to kill people when they piss us off?
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It's your most basic, carnal, physical, what's that brain called?
01:27:20.180
But that's still, yeah, but that doesn't, that doesn't change the point.
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It's a lot harder to actually control yourself.
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Isn't there a reason why they have those instincts?
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The societies where the men just follow their impulse to breed indiscriminately do not produce
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I know you have to justify why your boyfriend's cheating on you.
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That man will always be a man even if he cuts off his penis.
01:28:03.180
Now, the fact of the matter is if we follow these base instincts to just reproduce indiscriminately,
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it actually does not produce for the best societies and the best raised children.
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That's why you don't follow it indiscriminately.
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There's a reason that Western Europeans, which have the highest correlation for morality,
01:28:21.180
Can you explain what highest correlation for morality means?
01:28:25.180
If you want to take a look at who actually has moral prescriptions, like you don't cheat
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It is the highest in Western European civilization.
01:28:35.180
Yeah, but who says those are the correct morals?
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If somebody just brutally kills somebody you love, are you going to say, oh, that was part
01:28:50.180
So there is an internal instinct about what is moral and what isn't.
01:28:52.180
We can get into the communist, moralist, relativistic position that says, oh, every culture has
01:28:59.180
But then when you actually apply it practically, we all agree that children shouldn't be made
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to be child brides or get married or have sex, right?
01:29:08.180
Well, where do you find, like how do you find out about that moral system?
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Because clearly people aren't following that moral system.
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That's a very deep and theological question as well.
01:29:17.180
But there's been a lot of writing on how you find out about the moral thing.
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I think some of the things that we can start with is a lot of people do actually have
01:29:28.180
And that's one of the key indications that actually morality is innate as opposed to taught.
01:29:33.180
But I mean, people still go against it and people still.
01:29:41.180
So how can we live in a society that doesn't justify immoral behavior?
01:29:51.180
Why can't women comprehend men created the civilized world, electricity, paved roads,
01:29:56.180
governance, plumbing, healthcare, and women think they are equal since they feel entitled
01:30:04.180
Well, also, a lot of those men made that for women before when they had to actually work
01:30:13.180
So I'm just saying, like, how do you say we need to have moral leaders?
01:30:18.180
If you think men have to work for sex, it is so much easier for a woman to have sex
01:30:24.180
with a man than it is for a man to have sex with a woman.
01:30:30.180
Well, because you just said to her that men actually had to work to have sex.
01:30:37.180
There's a difference between you have to buy a girl, drink, take her out to dinner, woo
01:30:42.180
It's extremely hard for a man to have sex with a woman.
01:30:46.180
All that a woman has to do is go on the street and open her legs, and there it is.
01:30:52.180
But it has never been easier for men to have sex than this current period of time.
01:31:11.180
I mean, listen, I think that women are making it worse for the men.
01:31:16.180
I think that by posting stuff for free on the internet...
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Do you just accept that you're contributing to the problem, or...?
01:31:26.180
Well, I actually think that with the content that I create, I'm actually helping the problem.
01:31:32.180
I try to support these men, and I actually have relationships with all of these men that are in my DMs.
01:31:45.180
Are you talking about the girlfriend experience, or giving your OF subs the girlfriend experience?
01:31:50.180
And I am being there for them in all of their problems, all of their needs.
01:31:55.180
And I try to get them to achieve for something higher.
01:31:59.180
But aren't they just paying you to, like, give them that?
01:32:13.180
Like, let's say you attract guys that are eight and above.
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So, if there's a four, he's never gonna have a chance with you.
01:32:30.180
He's a great guy, but then there's an eight, and he makes the same amount of money, same
01:32:36.180
So, if there's a four, and he could find another woman who's a four or a five, and she could
01:32:43.180
provide that emotional support that you believe you're providing him, and the physical intimacy
01:32:49.180
Isn't that better to let their relationship rather than...
01:32:52.180
I mean, in some ways, it's kind of self-serving to be, oh, I'm the man that...
01:32:56.180
I'm the woman that's supporting this man, and I'm giving him what he needs, and I...
01:33:22.180
I was gonna say, I think in the past, it was more common for women to date up.
01:33:23.180
I think now, people, at least in my age range, even from my own personal experience, date
01:33:27.180
men who are just such bums who are not deserving of them, because I did it for two years.
01:33:32.180
I think we're talking about sexual market value, so like, hotness.
01:33:37.180
Like, the guy who's a total scrub and wants to live in your car, but he'll give you some
01:33:43.180
But I think what you're trying to say, I'll just say it in a more blunt way, is that we're kind
01:33:47.180
of sick of the bullshit that these OnlyFans girls are like, your friend, and they're doing charity
01:33:52.180
work, and I'm helping the lonely men out there.
01:34:00.180
If it was helping them, you wouldn't be charging them money.
01:34:06.180
I think that women posting inappropriate pictures online is making it easy for these
01:34:11.180
They don't have to work to achieve these women anymore.
01:34:16.180
But the content that I produce on a daily basis, I am very strongly opinionated on all of these
01:34:26.180
And I really want to make sure that men are striving to be the best that they can be.
01:34:38.180
And you'd be St. Riley, the OnlyFriends girl who's going to help you.
01:34:43.180
Out of all of the OnlyFans girls, I am the best one because I genuinely care about the
01:34:52.180
No, because all of the content that I produce is for the men.
01:34:57.180
You care about the quality of their jerk off sessions?
01:35:05.180
So what is it that you're doing that's charitable and helping them?
01:35:08.180
I put out content that shows that feminism is not the way to go.
01:35:15.180
I think that what would solve all of our problems is if we stopped oppressing people like
01:35:33.180
I think that if women just stayed at home and did their jobs, cook, clean, suck, fuck,
01:35:39.180
Do you realize you would be burned at the stake for everything you're doing right now if
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They would call you a witch and they would burn you at the stake.
01:36:58.180
So, personally, I don't necessarily think that would mean manipulation.
01:37:03.180
Because, like I said, feminism doesn't really mean anything anymore.
01:37:09.180
Because there's so many different veins of feminism.
01:37:11.180
There's veins of feminism that say, you know, we should live on an island away from
01:37:17.180
And there's veins of feminism that say you should go on OnlyFans and, you know, do that
01:37:24.180
I'm just saying the most effective way to approach this issue that we both see is to
01:38:17.180
He actually saved me from a bear once, believe it or not.
01:38:23.180
Maybe not him, but there's a lot of these guys who are like, be a submissive wife.
01:38:27.180
We don't need to waste money on a stake in fire.
01:38:41.180
So you're saying we need to like, take control over feminism?
01:38:47.180
Should it be the men or the women who take control of feminism?
01:38:51.180
How much manpower are you going to need for women to take back feminism?
01:38:57.180
That sounds like a lot of manpower you're going to need.
01:39:00.180
We got a lot of male beta simps already in the feminist movement.
01:39:05.180
I mean, I'm not saying that men are, um, as powerful as women or that women have more
01:39:12.180
I'm just saying that feminism is obviously very influential as you guys have, you know,
01:39:18.180
Because it's, it's basically selling something that appeals to our kind of, uh, the things
01:39:24.180
that give us pleasure right away, our, uh, instant gratification.
01:39:28.180
I, I just don't think it would work because first of all, like you said, there's so many divisions
01:39:36.180
So all you're going to do is create another ineffective chapter.
01:39:38.180
I mean, I'm just saying my, in my, um, experience...
01:39:41.180
What, what, what's your opposition to calling it something else?
01:39:45.180
Wait, Rachel, don't you think what ought to take over feminism is, it's not a replacement
01:39:55.180
It is just the re, I don't know if it's the reintroduction, but patriarchy.
01:40:03.180
It's, we're still under a patriarchy, but there were a few beta cuck simps that convinced
01:40:08.180
everybody that this women's liberation stuff was a good idea.
01:40:11.180
And those people happen to be powerful industrial.
01:40:13.180
It's like always like a Bill Gates or a Rockefeller, right?
01:40:20.180
They get a lot of money and they're like, I'm going to push this destructive, you know,
01:40:26.180
And it opens up the way for those beta type of guys to be able to get some.
01:40:30.180
But that might be the only place that you and I would disagree is that I am pro patriarchy.
01:40:38.180
I'm not sure that I'm anti patriarchy, but I do think is here's something that people
01:40:45.180
Right now, I think we're actually living under a female dominated society.
01:40:50.180
And you see this because of the way that women are kind of, you know, shrieking about not
01:40:55.180
being able to kill their own children, which is a whole other thing.
01:41:10.180
You degenerates need to wake up and see reality for the first time.
01:41:16.180
You know, it's interesting with grid one grid one, dude, for some reason, they always
01:41:29.180
I will say this really quick before we move on, which is that you're right that it's
01:41:46.180
You have to have one of the children slaves do it.
01:41:54.180
He's going to have to rely on child labor since I'm not there right now is all I'm saying.
01:42:03.180
And then they put all the like the Rockefellers are literally the ones that helped create women's
01:42:08.180
studies and the Ford Foundation and put these like man hating lesbian separatists in charge
01:42:13.180
of all of the university women's studies departments, giving them institutional power,
01:42:20.180
How do you know who's in charge of the women's studies departments?
01:42:30.180
Do you know that there's black people in Africa?
01:42:32.180
I actually go to school and I've actually interacted with professors and been in many
01:42:38.180
You had your personal experiences of your interactions with professors.
01:42:40.180
And I have never ever met a communist professor, like genuinely a poli-sci department.
01:42:44.180
Well, they're not going to say I'm a communist, but they'll have.
01:43:00.180
Also, I don't think there's anything wrong with Marxism.
01:43:16.180
I was going to say, I have met one communist professor actually, but it was not in the
01:43:22.180
It was in the comparative literature department.
01:43:23.180
I do got to read a couple chats here, then we'll come back to things.
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We have a couple chats and then a couple super chats.
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I don't know if I'm going to be able to read it.
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Most of them quit by getting pregnant or faking injuries.
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Follow Allie Drummond because she has a lot to say about that.
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Men have to be exceptional to potentially sleep with an average woman.
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Average woman can sleep with exceptional men like breathing.
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Her story is an exact example of a below average man sleeping with, I believe you're
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Well, are we talking like looks wise or inside?
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So I mean, like, are we expecting a 18, 19, 20 year old man to be making six figures?
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I don't expect him to be living in the same car as the girl he's sleeping with.
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And if you can't, if you cannot have a place where you can sleep with her, you shouldn't
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And the amount of money you make doesn't correlate to whether or not you're a high value man.
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I think that you have any high value qualities.
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If you make a lot of money, you have to, you have to have.
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So I think being a provider, does that correlate with being a hard worker?
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But I think it's much more admirable and much more difficult to be a man of character.
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What do you think is like the most admiral characteristics a man can have?
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Because I think that's the, that's the highest calling a human can be.
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Someone that wants to emulate the life of Jesus Christ is the hardest and most challenging
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And it leads to a person who is like, it will, is righteous.
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Men of character create good societies for people.
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Men who pursue money at the expense of everything, basically, you know, I mean, that's what we
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Cause there's some words we can't say here, but, um, you know, if you take a look there,
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the men that are ruling our society have pursued money at all lengths.
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And in that span, they have used and brutalized tons of people, which I don't know if you guys
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are into this conspiracy particularly, but we do have, um, our CIA and Israel, Israel CIA.
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I don't, we're not going to get into fucking Israel, Palestine.
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I'm getting into the secret agencies, CIA, Mossad and MI6, which is Britain's.
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I'm talking about these three major intelligence world powers who work together to get black
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male information on people who are not a character.
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There's a little thing we're missing about patriarchy, which is that feminism destroyed
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the hierarchy within patriarchy, which results in what you're talking about.
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I dare you to go to Versailles in Miami and say that.
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Can you tell us how many people have died under Marxism and all its failed iterations?
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I think they're talking about a Cuban neighborhood.
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All the people who are Cuban refugees of communism.
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All the rich, like, slave-owning Cubans who fled.
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But if they were fleeing Cuba, then they were probably...
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Well, did you know that more people have died because of communism and Marxism than all of
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She's from Eastern Europe, and those people could tell you a thing or two about what
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So what's the number of people that have died in religious wars, and what's the number
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I don't know, but I know for a fact that it's not true.
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I'm familiar with the black book of communism, and like, oh, all these people have died
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under communism, including people who just died natural deaths.
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I mean, how many people have died under capitalism in wars induced by capitalist interests?
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Do you know about the Bolshevik revolution having killed 20 million people?
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I mean, I'm sure there's plenty of other revolutions that have killed other people
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The Chinese communist revolution, the revolution under Pinochet.
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And every single one of those systems have resulted in a lower standard of living.
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Brickson, I know you're still hung up on that flannel, and although they don't have
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the same scheme, legendary white hall, they have some really nice color blends.
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This is from a couple of shows ago where I was trying to buy a, like a red, gray, black
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flannel off of a lesbian, and she refused to sell it to me.
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And, bro, you guys, literally 100 people sent me, here's the flannel, and you sent me
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I don't know if y'all are colorblind or some shit.
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When I say I want a specific flannel, I don't want any flannel.
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Maybe it's just because you wear the green one so often.
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They just thought you might need an extra one to cycle in.
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Sorry, bro, I can't get super chat through on Streamlabs.
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She knows nothing, prattles for an hour, then begrudgingly agrees.
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We already established this when she got cooked in the one-on-one.
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Also, if you don't believe in Jesus, take off the cross.
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I might have gotten cooked, but also Andrew is a 40-year-old man who debates for a living,
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Well, you're doing pretty good, even though I disagree with you.
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Brian, this has to be the most based episode you've ever had.
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These modern women are the reason I prefer to stay single.
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Y'all need to take in, wholeheartedly take in what Rachel and your raven-haired elder are
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I'm not trying to walk back, but you said that patriarchy would be a good prescription
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Because I thought that the problem was that men have power over women when it comes to
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It could be that like a hundred years ago, upwards of 97% of women were virgins on their wedding
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And even if you don't believe that and you think a lot of them were lying, let's just
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That still gives men a great incentive to wife you up if they expect sex.
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When half or more of the women are giving away the milk for free, why buy the cow and
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They found out it's a bad deal because now they're all stuck in family court dealing
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Well, there's that and also they're not living up to their purpose so they have no sense of
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Wouldn't we want to talk to the men about that?
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That's kind of what this podcast is about really.
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That's why I'm saying if everyone just listened to Andrew Tate, everything would be
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All of the beliefs that, you know, he tries to push to the public.
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Women should stay home, cook, clean, have kids, be a good mom.
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Andrew Tate is the reason women should have their own bank accounts.
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But if you've never been in a relationship with an Andrew Tate type, you have no idea what
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Those people do not know how to, how to maintain their healthy boundaries in a way where they don't
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I don't, I don't think they do use their power against women.
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First of all, if they wanted a traditional wife, they would be a monogamous with the wife,
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I'm pretty sure, pretty sure Andrew Tate's got.
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On top of that, why do you glorify someone that would literally look down on you so much?
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But why are you, why are you, why are you being a higher value men that believe that?
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Why are you being an OnlyFans girl who's counseling the lost young men?
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Well, you don't even know what I post on OnlyFans.
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But I know that you're not married and having children.
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You don't know that that's not in the workings.
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All that I want is to be married and is to have kids and take care of them.
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You think that's probably not going to happen with this guy.
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I love to hear that, but why, how does having the OnlyFans get you there?
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Well, you don't even know what I post on my OnlyFans.
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I don't know if I want to see it, but you could.
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I think you guys are just asking to see it at this point.
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It's not looking down at a woman to want her to take care of her kids, be a good wife,
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I read Ted Kaczynski's books and tell everybody what a simp they are.
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So why don't you support somebody like Andrew Tate?
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Because you seem to have very similar values to what he supports.
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And the reason is because Orthodox Christianity, in my opinion, is the thing that gives women
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And when we talk about equality, I don't like the word, but if you want women in a high position
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where they are venerated as mothers and wives, Orthodox Christianity, the Christianity of
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Christianity is the first thing that introduced that.
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The views expressed by the whatever panelists, podcast panelists, do not necessarily reflect
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And this whole, like, having, you know, all these sister wives in a harem and all this
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sort of thing, putting women in burqas is actually not great.
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That's what everybody, everybody throws around this term.
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Wait, and so that's your objection with Andrew Tate?
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Well, I don't even know if I buy that he's religious, but his worldview, I think the reason
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he picked Islam is because he likes that worldview.
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So he says, even though he's doing a bunch of wrong shit.
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Anyways, I'm not really interested in talking about Andrew Tate, to be honest.
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No, I'm just saying that, like, if we all listened to him, everything would be fine.
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That if we listened to Andrew Tate, that everything, that if we listened to Andrew Tate,
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Like, you don't even, it's just, it doesn't make sense coming from someone like you, especially.
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Even though he made our money out of the kitchen.
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He actually says that he doesn't look down at the kitchen.
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We're all just saying, get in the kitchen and stuff like that, you need to get the
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Like, honestly, you got the dick in your mouth.
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But would your boyfriend give you a pass to smash Andrew Tate?
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I don't want to talk about that because that's disrespectful to him.
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Would you give your boyfriend a pass to smash Andrew Tate?
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This is just an extended advertisement for her OnlyFans.
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Men who are great in all departments all like multiple women.
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They settle down with one, but they will always want a variety for sex.
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I mean, if he gets herpes, it would affect him.
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Because men don't have emotional sex unless it's-
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If a guy fucks enough women, you're familiar with the term alpha widow, right?
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Once a girl lands on a guy who's exceptional in some metric or in many metrics, so he could
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just be super attractive, really good in bed, really high status, rich personality-wise,
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it's going to be very hard for her to go back in that dimension.
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So if she dates a guy who has his own place, it's going to be hard to go back to the guy
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Once you have that experience, it's hard to move back.
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But guys can have that same shit we were talking about in the last show.
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For example, if you're a dude and you get with the girl who like, gonna get a little
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If she just like can come super quick and just like has multiples, bro, you're fucked.
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If men can be promiscuous but women can't, who are they sleeping with?
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Do you think that your relationship is viable for long term?
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Because I think that a man will settle down for one girl, but it's true.
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They're always going to want to have sex with other women because it's a natural instinct
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Humans can be stronger than our natural instincts.
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We should all go around randomly indiscriminately fucking each other and stabbing everybody
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So you see the relationship dynamic here, how she's closed, but the boyfriend is open.
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But like, would you have that same kind of scenario, having seen your friend in it?
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So you would demand monogamy from your male partner?
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Right now, right now I go to a non-denominational church, but I'm still kind of figuring it
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It's kind of, for me, it's more of like a personal relationship with God.
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I think we should shame her until she becomes Orthodox.
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Yeah, it was a really, me and three of my friends all got baptized together.
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Wait, and you have like an exclusive lingerie site or something?
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It's based, I would consider it more like a Patreon.
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At the, the most I've ever done is like, I did like behind the scenes of like a beach
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No, like I don't post anything with like my button knit, nothing that's like reeling up here.
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It's basically my Instagram, but it's like, I would say it's more-
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Well, I think it's smarter than posting your Instagram pictures for free.
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I'm not saying that you should post your Instagram pictures for free.
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It's smarter for her to make people pay for her Instagram pictures than post them for free.
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If I could find a way to make money off of it, I'm going to.
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I actually said that I don't think it's right for women to be posting their pictures for
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I said you literally said the same thing I just said.
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You said that I agreed with that I should post things for free.
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That she's being smart by not posting her selfies on Instagram for free.
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Because you said, how do you know I'm not moving towards motherhood and all that?
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So, how is this open relationship going to work when you have this man's child?
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Is he still going to be out with other strumpets?
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Is that I think with this type of relationship, there should be one main girl.
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I don't mind if he's, you know, succumbing to these sexual desires that he wants to have
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If you don't know about it, they're probably going to do it anyways.
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No, but I mean like what are you going to do when the children-
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Like what if the children find out that oops daddy got his side girl pregnant or-
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I would like to hear what you're talking about exactly.
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So, women in general, they have a higher tendency towards morality even though we've
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And what happens is women are the ones who hold men to a higher moral standard that they
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If you say, hey, it's okay for you to just follow whatever sexual instincts you want.
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You are failing your duty to inspire your man to actually try and control his lust.
02:03:52.180
If he did that, if he actually aspired to those higher values and actually tried
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to fight against his lust, he would actually find a bigger respect for himself and for
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But why should he try to fight against this lust?
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Can I answer why he should try to fight against this lust?
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Because it actually leads to a deeper fulfillment and a more expansive sense of your own humanity
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You realize you are more than just your animal-based instincts.
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And that is a wonderful, worthy goal that actually we are missing in our society.
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But I think that if a man is high value enough and he's educated enough and has all of these
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characteristics to where he can be in that top 1% of man-
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Okay, Andrew Tay, it's ready for you to come out of this woman's body.
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That he should be able to reproduce with many women.
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Is it because you've maintained a certain like-
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No, it's, it's, it's the qualities, it's the qualities that you have referring to like
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motherhood, nurturing, being there for your husband.
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So, so, so tell me what the, please list the qualities.
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First of all, I really want to hear what she has to say.
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The, the characteristics, being a good mother, being nurturing, taking care of your
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husband, making sure that you're supporting him in his endeavors.
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And if that involves letting him, you know, succumb to these sexual desires, I think that
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A woman's only value comes from her tits and her ass.
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Do you care about the men who like, let's call them, I'm, they're not clients.
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I mean, I, I don't know what I would call them.
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But don't you think there could be negative repercussions of the, and you say not promiscuous.
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Promiscuous, posting things online, being in a bikini.
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You're listing all these things like you have it on your Instagram.
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You will not, you will not find, you will not find one bikini picture on my Instagram.
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I don't know how you managed to do this, but you alienated more of the women on this panel
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What do you do on your, are you promiscuous on your OnlyFans?
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I've never seen fake tits in my life, so I want to see it.
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Is the content to make men feel valued, but also to make them aroused?
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Because I think I'm hearing you say that you want men to feel valued.
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I think you can showcase these qualities in ways that could be potentially more productive
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and even more powerful, and even using your beauty and your nurture and your kindness
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and your concern for men, and that doesn't have to be through this venue of arousal.
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Have you seen any of my content on any of my social media platforms?
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Let me just kind of like, you know, this could be like a 20-minute conversation.
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What else has he done to you to make you think this way?
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For the first time, I'm generally concerned for a woman on the show.
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Okay, final thing, but I want to talk about your weird situation for too long.
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If a man is able to be successful in the top 1%, he obviously has some very important qualities
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that, you know, would make it- wouldn't you want your DNA to be passed on to future generations
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Wait, but is he impregnating the other women he's sleeping with?
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The minute he impregnates another one of those women, you are no longer top chick.
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Well, let me get into some other notes here, but that was-
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I hope she never gets pregnant because, God damn.
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Going back to my notes for Leonardo, you were married to a sociopath.
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He was a- this was the malcontent person who was very manipulative.
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He was a non-violent sociopath, so you have different kinds.
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Very feminine in terms of his lack of control over his own emotions.
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I actually came from a very conservative family and I did not even date anybody until
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So, he would do things like out of nowhere just- okay, I'll give you an example.
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And so, I did plays, nothing involving any kind of nudity or whatever.
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And then one day he just goes, hey, if you get a- if you get a movie deal and they ask
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And I said, well, are they going to see everything?
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Oh, I knew you were a slut and just firing off.
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Now, it was his concern that I was actually going to do this?
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He was doing a very manipulative game where you attack someone and you make them feel
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So, the minute that we kind of- we went on this huge fight for absolutely no reason.
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And then at the end of it, I was apologizing to him.
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So, this is one of those, you know, and I wonder about your guy, but it doesn't- I haven't
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But a lot of guys will control a woman's mind this way where they'll implant certain thoughts
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to allow for behavior they want to do and then say that that's just the natural order
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So, was he like diagnosed as a sociopath or is this a bit of hyperbole?
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And he made up the stories that had nothing to do with reality.
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He made up some story how he almost got into the Olympics and then accidentally hurt
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And then when we- when I was divorcing him, he was like, I- that wasn't true.
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And then he tried to go to couples counseling with me and the therapist told me he's a con
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And so, Rachel, you have something on sociopath, don't you?
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Well, like how a lot of women will overestimate-
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No, like I- of the three people I've ever been with, one of them kind of was this way.
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But most girls, when you talk to them, if they've been with like 20 dudes and they
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say 19 of them were narcissists, you can pretty much bet that it's her that's actually
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Or if you have- so I had a tendency of being attracted to not great guys and that was my
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my own sense of low self-esteem and not really knowing that you could command for- to be-
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once I got to the place where I was like, you know what, if it's this or being alone,
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I'm totally comfortable being alone, then I was able to screen these guys out and get
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Um, by that logic, women should date short, broke, fat men, even though women like athletic,
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The traditional con women are undercover feminists.
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Also, just rip stock, FYI, just the read is 100, TTS is 200, just FYI.
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You said that with the show, I think the way you handle women is neglecting your duties
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as men to lead and protect women even when they stray.
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I mean, you're not doing it today, so I can't really-
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I think that you have a tendency to kind of shame some of these women.
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Just based on some clips that I've seen, right?
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And I've seen with you and some of these red pill guys, they'll bring on these girls with
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I think there's a lot of this happening on social media where we're trying to- I get
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It's exciting to do this, but I think that this happens a lot.
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And I guess if they're going to be resistant or whatever, but I don't think that that's the
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way because she was asking like, how do we stop this?
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And I don't think that is the way because it just confirms their already existing bias
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And so with a lot of this stuff, a lot of it, I think, you know, should really be discussed
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in a different way where you kind of like show them, hey, this is actually not to your benefit.
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And actually try to, you know, bring them out of that mentality.
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But I don't think the kind of like exposes that happen are the best way to do it.
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And I have friends, female friends who feel this way because my husband's on the show frequently
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and some of the stuff I say will kind of trigger them.
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And I think everyone's instinct is to protect women.
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And like what you said in the pre-show notes was even when they've gone astray, we should still protect them.
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I just don't necessarily know that kind of, you know, stripping them naked and issuing lashes is the way to do it, metaphorically.
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My opinion on it is that right now we don't have a problem of too much woman shaming in general.
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So like how I ended up in two previous bad relationships that-
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Well, I can't even say they were bad because like my first two children I had with my high school boyfriend,
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He just went through some really intense personal stuff, left.
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I intended to be with one guy and stay with one guy forever.
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Put me in a vulnerable position where guy number two comes along.
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Have a baby with him like I'm supposed to as his wife and he turns out to actually have some very serious issues I didn't know about that he didn't tell me about.
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So I understand what you're saying where like women can be vulnerable and there can be bad guys.
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However, when that one left and I'm alone now with three kids and two ex-husbands and I knew everybody everyone forever for the rest of my life is just going to say, oh, she has three kids with two guys and they're going to assume they're going to assume you're a high value woman that I was like promiscuous or that I was sleeping around with randos, which I never ever did.
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And I'm sitting there at 26 trying to figure out what the fuck do I do now.
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I could look at them and all the things they did wrong to me.
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Either I'm attracting this type of guy or I'm attracting certain be hit something.
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I'm the common denominator because they were total opposites.
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And this is the only way I will say that I think I could be an example to women out there in every other way.
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But in this one way, I think I can be an example, which is that I took a super hard look at myself at 26, which is hard to do.
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We don't like to do that as women, be introspective and look at where all our flaws are and where our weaknesses are.
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And I went, okay, I see a pattern of what I'm doing.
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I didn't think I was a feminist and I didn't think I was doing anything particularly immoral or wrong or bad.
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But I did have like the modern woman attitude to an extent.
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And that led me to pick people based on wrong factors.
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You have to look at like, you know, your childhood stuff and all that.
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But all I'm trying to say is I think that we have an issue where we tell women that they are perfect.
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Every man should want you at your best and put up with you at your worst and all this kind of stuff.
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Women are the ones being told we're already perfect.
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And my experience with a lot of women is they are incredibly self-critical.
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I think this is true for men and women is that you can't really do anything to change the person that you were with.
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So if something's not going right, whether it was one time or multiple times, I think the answer is always to look inside yourself and see what you can do to fix that.
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I have a totally different upbringing where you guys are brought up and told you're wonderful, special and all that stuff.
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But generally, like when I watch the show and you ask women what went wrong with the previous relationships, they usually will say, oh, he was this and he was that and he did this wrong.
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And every single time it was the guy and it was never them.
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And I'm just like, and I think this is a symptom of us telling women, you're amazing.
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So she can write multiple albums about all her breakups.
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But it was, and she wrote a funny tongue in cheek song called I'm the Problem It's Me
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because everybody was telling her, hey Taylor, maybe, perhaps you could be the issue here
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if every single guy you've ever dated is a total piece of shit.
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Even though the trolls are constantly like, what about your exes?
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I'm not going to give their business because they're private people.
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And I have the respect for them to not tell you all their business.
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Women will constantly argue that when women cheat, the man wasn't meeting some sort of expectation.
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Where if a man doesn't want you to keep the baby, he's an asshole.
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And if a woman wants to give it, it's her body.
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None of you are giving examples of where, except you gave Taylor Swift, which I'm not
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Oh, every pop star, every singer, every actress.
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All you guys are saying is they're saying this, they're saying that.
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Okay, how about the narrative of abortions where a woman-
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So, basically, the narrative with abortion on the left side-
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The narrative with abortion on the left side is that if you are a woman, it is 100% your
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The man you're with, it doesn't matter what he thinks.
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If you give him an opinion, then you're brainwashed.
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Like, we all of a sudden want to get really scientific when we talk about abortion because
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But then, I mean, there are other left arguments that science doesn't even matter.
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But you're still saying what the narrative is, not who specifically is pushing these
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Let me help on the abortion thing here a little bit.
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You know, you go to UCSB, people hooking up, people aren't always using protection.
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Let's say a guy knocks up his 20-year-old girlfriend and she wants to keep it.
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What do you say to the man who says, I don't want, I'm not financially ready to be a father.
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But, but, let's say she's, she's steadfast, good word, steadfast, and she wants to keep,
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I mean, I know this is the answer you're looking for.
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Because, I mean, you can't, you can't really force, you can't violate someone else's bodily
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You shoulda, you shoulda kept your legs closed.
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You shouldn't have had sex with her if you didn't want to do that, correct?
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You shoulda thought about it before you came in her raw.
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You might be asking the wrong person because I would not say that, but I'm sure that there
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I do believe there are people who would say that.
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Okay, so then you're, would you be in favor of, it's called legal paternal surrender?
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Like if you say, I don't, yeah, I think I actually would be in favor of that.
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So like, let's say the woman wants to keep it, the man doesn't, would you be totally
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He could make some sort of opt-in decision where he's like, okay, I don't want to be
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financially responsible for the child, I don't want custody, and he could opt out.
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If he, yeah, if it's like legal and informed and like, you know, both sides know what they're
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No, the other side, the woman doesn't have to agree to that.
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In any state where a woman has a right to get an abortion, I think a man ought to have
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a corresponding right to what I like to call, some people call it a paper abortion, what
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A man could say, well, if you have a right to an abortion, but you're opting to keep the
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child, I have a corresponding right to say, well, I don't want to be custodally responsible,
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I don't want to be financially responsible for the child.
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What I mean is the woman should know if he is doing that.
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Lips with their backwards slash gorilla logic can't agree on when life starts.
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Shouldn't the logical answer be to default back to conception to eliminate potential murder?
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I disagree with you because a woman could opt to get an abortion without having to make
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Ergo, I think a man in a state where this, and frankly, this will never be, this will
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never pass anywhere, even in super progressive liberal states where this would be at least
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some form of equality on the reproductive rights thing, at least for men.
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But frankly, liberals and progressives don't give a fuck about men.
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At least they give, it's a very, liberals and progressives don't give a fuck about men
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Conservatives, it's like token, it's a very token support for men.
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But this will never happen, so it's just kind of a fool's errand.
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I don't think there should be a disclosure on the man's part.
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Even worse for society, encouraging men to blow loads in 304s and then it makes even more
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In any state where abortion is legal, it occurs to me that if we're like living in this
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egalitarian, equal, you know, which we don't, but, well in terms of like, we have equality
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for women, not really for men though, especially on the reproductive front.
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There is no, men have absolutely zero reproductive rights, while women have-
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So you're saying just what's good for the goose should be good for the gander.
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Like if you have the right to unilateral abortion, you have the right to unilateral divorce,
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Dave Chappelle put it very eloquently, if you have the right to murder a child, I at
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And actually I think that logic would promote, I mean, like if that were a thing, it would
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promote, it would, it would force people to have to take responsibility for, for sex, for
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It would force them to have conversations because all of a sudden there's a lot more at
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Whereas right now there's just not a lot at stake.
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Why do you think men should have to, in this hypothetical scenario where there's a paper abortion,
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why should a man have to disclose to a woman that he's opting out?
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I would, I would say to reconsider because if you know, you think you're going to have
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two incomes to support a child, you're going to be getting child support, whatever.
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And then after the child is born, you don't receive that.
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I think that could really negatively impact the child's life.
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So I think a woman should know what, at least have a good idea about what is going to
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Well, I mean, what if it was, I mean, even in the scenario where it was like a casual
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encounter where she would have no reasonable expectation that this man intended like consent
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This is kind of consent to sex is not consent to fatherhood.
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I think, or if it is, then consent to sex should also be consent to motherhood on the
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I don't think your logic is very consistent, but I think that, I think he is consistent.
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If a male consents to sex, is that him consenting to fatherhood?
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And I'm saying, I agree that if, if a woman is going to go forth with a pregnancy that a
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woman does not want to provide for, I mean, that's her choice to have the child.
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I agree that he should have the choice to not be supportive.
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I just think that I'm, I'm thinking about the child here after it's born.
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I think that you should know what you're getting into.
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And that's part of the reason I'm pro choice is because I don't think that children being
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born in certain situations are having very good lives.
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Poor people are the only ones having babies by the way, right now.
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And the only, so, so you'd be fine with, uh, just, you know, the human race dying out.
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The problem is that just goes down such an evil.
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We're like eight for eight now when I've asked this question to a feminist.
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But she's not under, she's not under any propaganda or brainwashing.
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Not the death cult that's pushing the end of the human race.
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I would not be fine with it ending in my lifetime.
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Cause I personally try to avoid like suffering.
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I think most people try to avoid suffering and pain.
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Do you think that men should pay child support before the child is even born?
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I think they should pay before they even have sex with the woman.
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I think if, if it's a situation, I think like in your situation where they can opt out.
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If they're like, I don't consent to being a father.
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If they're providing child support, then yeah, I think they should also support through the pregnancy.
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I don't believe children should be born out of wedlock.
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How early on, like should, could it, for example, if the woman finds out, like when
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Let's say like, should it, should the retroactive child support, pre birth child support be retroactive
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I think that would be a difficult legal thing to work out.
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What point in the pregnancy, like four weeks in, if she finds out, let's say she finds
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Women have been brainwashed to believe that humans that reproduce are bad and it's better
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So the woman finds out four weeks in, she's pregnant.
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So is that at the point the man should pay child support?
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Well, the point I think would be whatever going forward.
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I think it should just be whatever point the pregnancy is known.
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So you are though in favor that the man should pay child support prior to birth.
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So you are acknowledging that it is a child at four weeks.
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I went into the whole, you can watch my one-on-one debate with Andrew Wilson.
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Cause she's saying he should, and he should be forced to, and he should be made to.
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So what we have done is we have created this nanny state where instead of people taking
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responsibility and accountability for their lives, because this is what women used to
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They used to screen men and say, are you going to take care of me and your children?
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And if you're not, I'm not going to have sex with you.
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And if I make the wrong decision, the responsibility of that decision falls upon my shoulders.
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We have now abdicated that responsibility and said, I don't want to be responsible for anything.
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Let's use the power of the state to enforce my will because I didn't have the self-control
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wherewithal or insight to make that decision in the right time.
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So if, for example, if we were to get rid of child support, do you think women would
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be a bit more responsible when it comes to who they have sex with?
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All of a sudden those legs would be closing up.
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I mean, if you would like to prevent these births, you want to take away safety nets
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I said, first of all, something totally different will shift in the way that men behave.
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You will still have a proportion of men who are going to be trying to sleep with women
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and they're going to be doing it, but it's not going to be the majority of men.
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Most men are going to be looking to get married because they want to have sex, which
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You think people should be getting married just because they want to have sex?
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Children are the blossom of the love that you have.
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It's like a flower blooming out of something beautiful.
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All of that is washed away because it's not even your responsibility.
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It's the state's responsibility and somebody should do it instead of you looking at your
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If you want to be treated as an equal, as an equal adult, as a man, then you must behave
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You must share the same responsibilities, the same accountability and not leave it to be somebody
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else's problem to clean up the mess that you didn't have the thought process to go through.
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It's not meant to beat you down because you've made a mistake.
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But we are now living in a society that encourages this and encourages absolutely no accountability
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on behalf of women and pretty soon on behalf of men.
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It's actually provably true what she's saying because in my book, I point out that if you
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look from 1960 to now and you plot out on a graph out of wedlock births and the growth
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of the welfare state on a mat or like on a graph, they go up exactly in tandem like this,
02:36:09.180
So we basically just replaced marriage and paternity fathers with the state and welfare.
02:36:20.180
The welfare state is rising with the birth rates?
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First of all, I know you, I don't know about your, your debate so much, but I know Andrew's
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debates, he relies a lot on like sociological studies are unreproducible.
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So, I mean, how can you say that that, if there's such a replication crisis, how can
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That's not a sociological study because you just look at the actual dollars of welfare money
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Did the data of like, however they're measuring welfare and how are they measuring out of wedlock
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Welfare, you measure by literal federal welfare dollars spent.
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How are they, how are they accounting for confounding variables when they're comparing
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How are you accounting for confounding variables?
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So if you look at out of wedlock births, that's something that when you go to have the baby,
02:37:27.180
And if you don't put married to the dad on the birth certificate, it's an out of wedlock
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birth or you're not, you know, taking the same last name like they did back in the day.
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I'm just saying, I'm not saying it's causative.
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There are times where even if it's just a correlation, if they are in exact lockstep
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with each other, if it was like this, that might be one thing.
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But when they go like this together, exactly the same, it's highly indicative of the fact
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It's highly indicative of the fact that we are.
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But I bet if that stuff was about climate control, you'd be all over it.
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It's highly indicative of the fact that we are incentivizing out of wedlock births
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by rewarding people with financial support from the state rather than from the father.
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You are making a causal claim that you can't really make.
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That logic thing where you can see that obviously as soon as we start incentivizing the state
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She's going to say that she believes those statistics and those correlations, but these correlations
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I actually, my father is an Exxon Mobil executive.
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Well, now we're going to attack you because you don't believe it.
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Let me read a couple chats, then we'll get into our next thing.
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Stop being so judgmental and stop ranking human beings and picking their partners on their
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With love and respect, the rest will fall in place in lasting relationships.
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I mean, not her, but most women do feel that way.
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I'm not saying that you should pick a man because of his net worth.
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I'm just saying most women all go for the same 1% of men.
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Andrew and I were broke as fuck when we started dating.
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He's a high value man, but he was never like a wealthy man.
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He had to work incredibly hard for me to be able to stay home with the kids and all
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You don't have to be wealthy to be a high value man.
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The things that he had going for him was incredible charisma.
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I don't know if you've ever watched the crucible book.
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And he's very handsome, but he was really emotionally stable.
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He's got big time masculine energy, things like that.
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You don't have to be high status to be high value.
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You're talking about going for the same top 1%.
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Why are we shaming Blondie for securing a high value man when Rachel has two divorces
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I mean, I don't think she's securing anything like this.
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Hey, can we say the same thing about your fake titties though?
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Cause you're, you're putting, you know, God made you to have small titties and you destroyed
02:41:17.180
You know, somewhere there's a man who was dreaming of you and wanted a cups and now you've ruined
02:41:40.180
Your husband said you're obese because of a disease.
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Did you get diagnosed at the Orthodox church or MD?
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There's like three people with like 30 sock accounts that follow me everywhere I go just
02:42:09.180
Uh, scarcity is needed for the balance of the sexes to work properly.
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When we lose scarcity, we get, uh, mouse utopia.
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Uh, that's a guy who made, he made a, he made a thing called mouse utopia, which shows
02:42:30.180
they, they did this experiment with mice and they repeated it over and over again.
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And what they did is they put mice living in kind of a utopia society where they're given
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everything, including access to mates and everything.
02:42:41.180
And there's a pod mice, they're supposed to go up to a certain level of population, but
02:43:07.180
Uh, Brian, after watching your show for nine months, I feel the assets should not be
02:43:20.180
Uh, I mean, it's, it's complicated though, because I mean, the typical argument that you'll
02:43:26.180
hear from the other side, which does have some merit is that for example, if a woman, you
02:43:31.180
know, marries young and she disregards, for example, going to, uh, college and disregards
02:43:40.180
And then if in the event of a divorce, especially if the man is the initiator of the divorce,
02:43:46.180
although that's pretty overwhelmingly rare, women tend to, uh, initiate divorces somewhere
02:43:51.180
between 70 to 80%, uh, there, there is a decent argument to be made that, uh, you know, if,
02:43:58.180
especially if you've have then gone on and have kids, but that's for child support, but
02:44:03.180
specifically on the alimony component, uh, is she going to be able to provide for herself
02:44:08.180
after she's given 10, 20 years to the household and not in pursuit of a career?
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I don't know if Rachel, you have any thoughts there, but I I'm not a hundred percent against
02:44:22.180
Sometimes you, you'll hear these kinds of crazy alimony numbers.
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And, um, well, I would just do away with unilateral and no fault divorce altogether.
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Re-institute sacramental marriage, not make it some cheapened bullshit certificate that
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you get from your County that nobody gives a shit about.
02:44:40.180
And people would be serious again about marriage.
02:44:42.180
And then this would be an outlier situation that in my opinion should be dealt with through
02:44:49.180
Meaning if you get married, you get married through your church.
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If there's a divorce for whatever reason, the church handles that situation.
02:44:58.180
So we had a chat that came in very early on in the show.
02:45:05.180
So the question was something along the lines of, would you date me starting with you?
02:45:16.180
So no, you know, you don't even want to know the answer to the question.
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That was me being sarcastic that you, you're not interested in this question at all.
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By the way, I'm not, I, if it's a no, I'm not going to be offended.
02:45:28.180
I mean, I think on both ends, it would be a no like you and me.
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I obviously, I don't look like I'd be your type.
02:45:42.180
Very minimal makeup, very natural, uh, young or not younger than me, hopefully.
02:45:58.180
I mean, you shouldn't be dating like an 18 year old at 34 or something, but.
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If she's a consenting adult, strong woman and that's her choice.
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If she's 18 and she can sign a lease and she can drive a car and she can hold a job and
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she can go to college, she can do all these things, but she can't decide who she wants
02:46:22.180
Are 18 year old women full women or are they not?
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People have the choice, you know, they can or can't, but me, I just view it as like a
02:46:35.180
It's just icky because I'm like, this person was literally living with their parents four
02:46:42.180
Well, let's also not, just to be clear, let's not straw man my dating preferences.
02:46:50.180
I don't know your dating preferences or anything, but I'm just saying.
02:46:52.180
I mean, I actually, in terms of the range of age I would date, I'll date a woman who's
02:47:05.180
But I'm not like, for example, would I date like a 20 year old?
02:47:12.180
There's plenty of cool, attractive women, even in their forties.
02:47:27.180
So, but it's also like, okay, I would conceivably date a woman who's 20, but I'm also not like
02:47:34.180
going to college parties in pursuit of dating a 20 year old.
02:47:37.180
Like if it would have to be the scenario for me to date a 20 year old.
02:47:40.180
She would have to either DM, like she would have to contact me.
02:47:51.180
Well, you're supposed to plug your ad so they can find you.
02:47:55.180
But what I'm saying is, I'll play along there, but yeah.
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I'm not hanging out at college parties and shit trying to get.
02:48:11.180
Like obviously looks are a factor, but personality is like huge for me.
02:48:16.180
Wait, can you just zip that up a little bit more?
02:48:44.180
Like I was saying, it really depends on like personality.
02:48:50.180
No, I've literally talked about this with so many people.
02:48:57.180
I was like, I'd rather have a guy see my butthole than my forehead.
02:49:06.180
You'd rather, you'd rather a guy see your butthole over your forehead.
02:49:42.180
But you also, and it's on your lower body, those two, correct?
02:49:50.180
Interestingly enough, you have a, I think it's a passion cross, a cross.
02:49:57.180
On your lower back, you have a cross tramp stamp.
02:50:07.180
Is this just edge lording or are you serious about it?
02:50:09.180
No, I so seriously do have an upside down cross on my crack.
02:50:15.180
But is it because you like actually hate Christianity and you think Satanism is awesome?
02:50:35.180
Like I grew up Christian, like my mom's Christian, my whole family.
02:50:39.180
It's just like me personally, when, whenever I went to church and stuff, like I know the
02:50:49.180
You'd like come to the club and do lines and shit.
02:50:52.180
Like, I just know that like, most religion to me is just like brainwashing, like to just
02:51:02.180
So I'm, I don't hate Christianity or anything like that.
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I mean, if you're tattooing an upside down cross on your ass crack.
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During the time, during the time when I got those tattoos, I was in a darker place.
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I would say I did, I was also not in a very good place with my family.
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You keep saying this girl, but you keep, I mean, your boyfriend probably loves the tattoos.
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You think that, you think that religion is brainwashing?
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I, well, to me personally, when I was in, um, Christianity and stuff, like I felt like I
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Like they try to have you emotionally trauma bond.
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Uh, I've been to like church camps and stuff where they would have you like share your traumas
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I feel like the most judgmental people I've met in my life have been like Christians and
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I mean, it's just like, I just, I, I don't have any hate.
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I feel like Jesus Christ would be a cool fucking dude.
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So like, I feel like if that is true, he would be a cool dude.
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When people say he hung out with everyone, what did he tell them?
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But at the same time, he didn't really judge them for it.
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He did say, he did judge the action, but still held the value of the person.
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But he always said, stop sinning, repent and come to me.
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And he also told the sinners that wanted to stone that adulterous woman.
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And also, he would strongly endorse a whatever blur effect to prevent nip slips or just hide the demonic degenerate women.
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Cause I don't know you as a person, but if from right now, I would say no.
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Cause it sounded like you said you think I wouldn't date you.
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So it's kind of like, I'm going to reject you first.
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I think it would be like, I think you wouldn't date me.
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Cause I know I've seen your, you know, show and I've seen your type of, I've seen your type of views.
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And I don't think we have the same views and I don't think we would, you know, be on the same note with things.
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And so I just like, for me personally, with my partners, I like to at least be on somewhat the same page.
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But I am, I am intrigued about your personal life.
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I would not date you, but I would like go, I'd have a drink with you to hear stories about your personal life.
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When I came here in October, I was super interested.
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But, but, but I don't, I don't know where I stand as much now, but.
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Well, while you do have some very nice Aryan features and.
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People will send me like AI generated versions of me, but like as a certain fascist leader.
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No, like they're like, Brian, you kind of, if you changed a few things, you kind of look a little bit like.
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At first you kind of struck me as a little bit of an insecure man.
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You've sort of proven yourself to be a little bit different.
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And you're not going to sleep with other women no matter what she does.
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That's the only thing she said the whole show, by the way.
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Wait, does my Instagram show that I'm dating a woman?
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No, I don't remember what it was, but like there was a photo.
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Who the fuck cares about if there should be a child support or not?
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Like you all, all forgot what it's about the child.
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You forced that kid into existence and they deserve the best pay up.
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Force that kid into existence so that you are the crux of the problem.
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Cause you literally have swallowed the brainwashing.
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No, I love being alive, but that's definitely burdensome.
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A lot of gnostic-y kind of presuppositions about like, I'm trapped in my flesh.
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I mean, we all, we all face burdens and I, you guys are lying.
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If you say you've never felt a burden in my life.
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If any of us really believed that it was a burden, we wouldn't be here.
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We would have taken ourselves out a long time ago.
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You're going to lose to half your fans either way.
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He's paged for many, but he was paged for many.
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Well, I mean, look, I've kind of already talked about it on the show.
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Frankly, there's certain political things I don't like to get into in terms of my views on it.
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However, I do see the, these sort of current status quo, like practically speaking, pretty much any woman in honestly any state, because I believe it's the case, even though some states have, I think they've outlawed practitioners, like women can get like the pill or whatever.
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Even the states it's like banned, you can just order it.
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And I don't think on the federal, because I think the mail is on the federal level.
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Practically speaking, any woman in this country can get an abortion.
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And truth be told, I kind of put men's rights advocacy above any sort of conservative values.
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Not to say, I'm not even sure if I'm really even conservative, but it occurs to me that when it comes to reproductive rights, the current status quo is women have a monopoly on reproductive rights in this country, regardless of the state you're in.
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And then, for example, especially here in California, women have pretty much unlimited unfettered access to abortion.
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So it does occur to me that it would be equal for men to be able to have what I call legal paternal surrender.
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If y'all can murder the kid, we should at least be able to abandon it.
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So are you saying that like, because banning abortion is not realistic, it's better to go for, you know,
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take a men's rights approach to the current like reproductive laws?
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And since, you know, the whole Roe v. Wade thing, that wasn't about banning abortion.
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There are going to be some states that are going to make moves to limit women's access to abortion.
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There's going to be some states, for example, California.
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I can't imagine any scenario unless at the federal level there's a ban, which I'm not clear if that's going to ever happen.
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But any woman could get an abortion in California.
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Ergo, I think that any man in California who gets a woman pregnant, I'm not saying he ought, he should do this, but he should have the option to forego responsibility in the same way that women have that option.
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Because we have a gynocentric, as you said, a gynocentric society.
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Women have all these rights without any corresponding duties or responsibilities.
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It occurs to me if we're going to be on this equality, egalitarian thing, men should also have reproductive rights on this front.
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So, just essentially, like, you are against abortion, but because abortion is legal, you're for men's rights, like, I guess, equality.
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Pro-life arguments are incredibly compelling. Incredibly compelling and are not so easily dismissed.
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But on a practical level, on a practical level, that's what I'm talking about.
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If it was completely illegal, then would you feel differently? Like, if we did outlaw abortion across the board, or would you still want the men to be able to opt out?
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If abortion was outlawed completely, then no. It would not be mentioned not have the legal paternal surrender.
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So, it occurs to me that this would be equality for the feminists, although feminism has never really been about equality, really.
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Okay, so you said women have the monopoly on reproductive rights.
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I mean, women are the ones who reproduce, so doesn't it make sense that they would have the monopoly on reproductive rights?
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Can a woman choose to get an abortion because she doesn't want to be financially responsible for the child?
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Let's say, but let's say, she's willing to go through with the actual physical childbirth process, but she determines, I'm kind of young, I'm not financially ready.
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So, is that justification enough, from your worldview, for a woman to get an abortion?
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No, I was gonna ask, do you consider, so you think that, like, the legal surrender, whatever, that, you would consider that a reproductive right?
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Okay, I was just, I was curious what you were saying by reproductive rights.
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So, if a woman, let's say she's willing to go through the physical difficulty of being pregnant and through childbirth, but she's keen to get an abortion because, for financial reasons, do you think that that is pretext enough for a woman to get an abortion?
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Yeah, but you already know I agree with the whole, like, financial surrender thing.
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Well, I have a couple chats here, so let me pull these up.
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American land of free, loud Slavic milf, lives on an hominens, let's dance girl is hottest on panel.
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Oh, dude, you're getting a lot of compliments tonight.
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Rachel, against America's founding fathers, shame, moral authoritarian, Putin worshiper,
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I'm not a Putin worshiper, but the American founding was incredibly flawed, and if you want
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to get into that, I suppose we could, but I don't think Brian wants to.
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Once again, why is the discussion on pro not even happening?
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When man forces her to do his bidding, then that's ownership.
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You said that you wanted to, you had a hot take on dating, serial dating and crazy relationship
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story as a guy I was talking to who is two timing you and this girl who also appeared
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You were dating a guy who was, or sleeping with a guy who was also fucking a chick who
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I don't out of respect for her because just, I don't know if she still dislikes me.
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If I say exactly what she said, then I feel like you would have an idea, but I don't want
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I just don't cause I don't want her to hate me even more than she probably already does.
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Didn't you, you said that she blocked you on social media?
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The whole thing, cause I've known her since I think we were like children, like in elementary
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And I've also known the guy, same, he went to the same school overall.
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Um, I was talking to him, I have like a whole timeline and everything, like Thanksgiving
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And we were talking and everything was going, like I thought it was going well.
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I was hanging out with his friends, he was hanging out with my friends.
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And I think a month after that, so it was like December, uh, I found out about her.
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I, uh, not let her know, but I told her what was going on.
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Like that he was getting with me and then that he was also getting with her and then
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comes to find out he was also getting with many more girls that I didn't know.
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No, he goes to like a whole different college and everything.
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Cause we had a guy on the show a long time ago.
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Who's like smashed like five girls who've been on the show.
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Oh, he told me his body count was like 20 something plus.
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Maybe I'll give you a little hint, but she said that her, like on the podcast, you asked
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if her relation relationship was monogamous and she said, like she paused and she was
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So basically you were dating a guy and he was sleeping with another chick.
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But she went out of her way to, so when I joined SBCC, we had, there's like that little
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ad page where you could basically like just let people know like who you are.
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Her and her roommate both made rude comments to me and like was basically just like bullying
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Because I guess like a whole, a whole rumor that had gone on around in our high school,
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like about that with a guy that I didn't even do anything with.
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Threw that around and they did that in the comment section.
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And it's very tempting to believe them cause they start with such confidence, but.
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Mackenzie, you said you have somewhat limited dating experience.
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But it sounds like a guy was cheating on you, got ditched on Valentine's Day.
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When I first moved out here and it was going really well.
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Initially he didn't want any relationship, but I did.
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But at that point I was kind of like three months in.
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If you don't want to date me, then like I'm moving on at that point.
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You should know if you want to be in a relationship with me at that point.
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And then we kind of just kept it going because I was like,
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So I do want to like, maybe like give us this another chance and see if it's
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Um, next, you know, like Valentine's Day is rolling up and I'm like,
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Oh my God, I'm actually gonna have like a Valentine's Day like thing going on.
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I was like, maybe even like, you know, my birthday's coming up.
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Like maybe he'll ask me be his girlfriend or something.
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The day before Valentine's Day, he doesn't like text me like at all.
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Then a week later he's like, Oh, what'd you end up doing on Valentine's Day?
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And I was like, Ooh, I thought we were supposed to do something.
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And then he's like, Okay, well I'll make it up to you.
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Doesn't do anything for my birthday and completely forgets about it.
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And his birthday is literally the day after mine too.
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This guy sounds like a legend, to be honest, right?
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I mean, not to mention, he was like, he's like a couple years old.
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So I was kind of like, you should grow up a little bit here.
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So one of my most viral tweets that had like 5 million impressions or something,
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was just me saying that since I've been with my husband, he has not done any housework.
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If they're cohabitating, they're married, whatever, sharing the housework.
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Um, well, I'm a, do you, do you work like a job besides her?
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I mean, then I think it's like, if he works a job full time, then I think it's fair that
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you're doing a job at home while he's doing a job there.
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And if both people work, do you think they should split it then?
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I think obviously if you guys are both working like nine to five jobs, you can't expect
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for like the woman to just come home and just clean up after you all the time
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So I think if you're both working, you should, it should be split.
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If you're a stay at home mom and like, you're just at home with the kids all day, then it
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Now I had a lot of women who were stay at home moms and they were like, but I get exhausted
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So when he gets home from work, I need a break.
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So I'm like, wait, so the man has to work all day.
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And then when he gets home, he also has to work.
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What about if the woman is really tired and the man comes home from working like a 10 hour shift?
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I mean, if you're home all day, like obviously like, okay, like you've been with the kids
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Like obviously you should spend time with his children and maybe do something like that.
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Like he shouldn't be expected to like go mow the lawn right after work.
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I think it should be proportional to how much you work outside the home.
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But I would disagree that if a woman is at home, she should be doing a hundred percent.
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Because I mean, you say he's working all day and he comes on, he has to do chores, then
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But if a woman is with the kids all day and then doing chores, she's the one working all
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So it's like either way, someone's working 24 hours, basically.
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I think there needs to be a little bit of slack.
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Do you really think that being a stay at home mom, so like I have five, with five kids,
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do you think that as a stay at home mom with five kids, I'm actually working the whole
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Like let's say when it was the hardest, when they were zero and three and seven and nine
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I was going to say, when I come home from work, I am doing like nothing.
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But if I was to come home from work and then I have to take care of children, I mean like
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Like my mom was a stay at home mom and I was, I was on her house all day.
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Like she was definitely working for me all day.
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Cause see, to me, that's the difference when you just have one or two, they are all on top
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By the time you got four or five, you have your own little ecosystem and the kids are all
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kind of like helping each other and taking care of things.
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And the older ones have a lot of responsibilities and can help and things like that.
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So if they have good examples though, like if you have to, you have to teach them that
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of course, but it's, we're talking over the course of 20 something years.
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I think you just, it just kind of happens if you have a big family, which that's why
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I'll often tell people if we were having bigger families, I think women would actually have
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It was like my mom worked, my sister worked, my friends were, everybody worked.
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Whereas if it was a hundred years ago, all of us are staying home.
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All of us have our kids, your cousins come over, your sister comes over, your church
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group gets together and there's like more help.
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What do you think about men and women splitting housework?
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So my dad is top provider, like, like, and my mom has a part-time job that she does like
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But, um, he, but he also, she cooks and then he'll usually do the dishes.
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Um, like he kind of likes doing it, I guess it's for him.
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Like he was, I guess when he was a kid telling his mom not to fold his laundry.
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Cause he wanted to fold it a certain type of way.
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And so, so, so I come from a family where it wasn't uncommon for men to see, to do the
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housework, but it wasn't from a place of like, my mom is domineering or my dad is being some
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And it was, it was like, he seems to be, he likes to do that.
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And so it's almost like, I think he can be a workaholic and it's like, Hey, you have to
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But I think, you know, so that when I look at it, I'm, I think that, you know, it is tiring
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So I think there, there, there is a give and take, I think also, but it's tiring if you're
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I, I, I don't think that some of the more masculine jobs, like taking out the trash yard
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I would expect him to do also stuff like dealing with, if there's a leak, that's what I need
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I would be, I'm, I'm happy to, to take on that responsibility.
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And then I think if we're both working, then I think then that's when you start.
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So now we have to find a, we have to pay for my, we have to pay for like help.
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My, my, my best friend, she always says, she's like, I am super excited to help my assistant
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I think that if a man has to go out and work and provide and give all of his energy to
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his job, he should at least be able to come home to a happy wife with dinner on the table.
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I honestly can't believe Andrew Tate hasn't married you already.
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I think, well, cause for me, I want to work when I'm older.
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And then obviously I want my husband to work or whoever, but I do believe in split
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Like, but with me, when it comes to like dishes or anything, I was raised, if you'd like,
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if your plate's dirty, you have to wash your own dish.
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Since you said you want to work, do you also want to be a mom?
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So, but when I do think about kids, maybe like, maybe like later down the line, I don't
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If you had kids, would you still want to be at work all day?
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Or I would, I would eventually want to go back to it.
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Cause I have two twin siblings and, um, well, she had, she had to quit her job because
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But, um, she wants to get a job now that my siblings are growing older.
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Cause she feels like she's just at home all day and it's just like, like there's, they're
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Um, the question was, do you think that we should like both do equal chores?
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Like if you're, if you're either living with your boyfriend, you're married, are you guys
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I mean, it, it depends if he's like working all day, I'm happy to stay home and do the
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chores if I'm not working, but if I am working, I think we should split it evenly.
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So for all of you who said, if we're both working, we should split the chores.
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Does that mean, cause this is how I see it playing out in the real world.
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That means he has to take care of the plumbing leak.
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If you can't do it yourself with the plunger, he's got to like fix stuff, mow the lawn, do
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the trimming, take out the trash, take the car to get the oil changed, all that kind of
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Do you feel like it would be, what would be the chores?
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Just things that people usually consider like housework that like a 1950s housewife would
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So like dishes, laundry, mopping, sweeping, dusting, organizing.
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I mean, I'm sure you could find an even split with that.
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Maybe if he does that, like the car work and the piping and whatever, then you could do
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the dishes and the kitchen work and then clean the rest of the house would be, um, I don't
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So, but then don't you get into this thing where we're keeping track and we've got like
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That's what I always see is like the woman will be like, well, but I did the laundry
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And then when you didn't do the laundry on Tuesday, I had to do it.
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And he's like, but I had to mow the lawn and you don't mow the lawn.
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And then you get into this like points keeping score.
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I, you know, idealistically and none of it's real practical.
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I mean, anybody who's ever been with a man realizes that you tend to see things messy
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Cause you tend to be bothered by things not being organized or clean way before he does,
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unless you're dating somebody who's really got.
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Like I have kind of a type A dad who likes to do that, but in general.
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I was going to say like, I feel like in a healthy relationship though, like obviously
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that could be an issue, but like with my parents, for example, like my dad would like
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offer to wash the dishes or offer to mow the lawn because he wanted to take something
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off my mother's back and it was cause he loved her.
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So it's like, if you love each other and care about each other in a relationship, I feel
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like you'll want to take on certain chores for them or want to do certain things for
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I think whatever you should work out, whatever split doesn't make one partner feel especially
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And like, if you feel like your children are helping to take care of each other in a sense,
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and you don't feel especially burdened by the housework, then that sounds healthy.
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But there might be some women who maybe the child has a disorder or something is different
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that she's going to feel especially burdened and she's not going to be happy.
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She's going to be resentful if the man isn't doing laundry once a week.
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Guys, guys, why aren't we all just hiring Mexicans?
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I mean, they could do the the fix the leak and clean the house.
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When they do surveys among divorced couples and the woman initiates the divorce, one of the
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top reasons she always gives is she feels like I feel like right.
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They never say I think they say I feel like he didn't do enough for me.
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And I think that we give women like a totally like overblown expectation that men are supposed
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He wasn't emotionally taking care of me usually means like I wanted him to anticipate that
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I want him to do a bunch of shit that he would never think about that.
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So if we see that women are just generally always dissatisfied, they don't think their
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I don't do the partnership thing, but they always say my partner isn't supporting me.
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Just do your woman right and she'll clean the dishes, dude.
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I mean, that's kind of how it works in the Wilson house.
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I mean, I'm hearing a lot of like, you know, women initiate divorces.
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I'm just curious because you've gotten divorced.
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You would have to agree that sometimes men can be the problem, whether they initiate
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So why do you assume that in all these cases, it's women sing life feel this way and she's
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I did not have to make babies with either of those guys.
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And then when I got what I ordered, it didn't turn out to be what I thought it was.
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But what I am saying is that women think that we're going to be the gatekeepers of sex.
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We think that it's going to be Disney princess like grid one motorsports is saying at least
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They have expectations that don't match reality.
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That's what everyone says men are supposed to do.
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But then when he does that, they're like, oh, he's controlling.
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Because biblically, the man has the higher calling.
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This is not an argument for a woman to just, I mean, oh, whatever.
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But I'm interested to know what you think about that because it's harder to be like Christ
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And while the church is supposed to submit, just like the wife submits to the husband,
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And so more responsibility, it shouldn't necessarily be tit for tat.
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I think the male actually has the higher calling and the more responsibility.
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But where I went wrong when I was young was I had a very normie.
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I was Christian, but I was like a cultural Protestant Christian.
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I thought, like, if you'd asked me at the time, I was serious about it.
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But I also had this, like, we were talking about the libertarian American idea.
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And when I was young, I had this, I bought into the stupid shit that a lot of us buy into.
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You know, we're, we're gonna get married eventually.
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I made all these little excuses for things I thought were fine.
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And it was like, well, I'm a really capable person and I can do it myself.
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I just had like the whole wrong view of the world and relationships and how that works.
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Part of that is had a Marxist feminist mother who was deeply indoctrinated.
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And she would, you know, kind of share this stuff with me and divorce my dad, kicked him out of the house.
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And so it was like, comparatively, I thought I was pretty conservative.
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But I was basically just like a normie girl who was like, I'll just live with my boyfriend because it's practical and we'll split the bills.
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And then when that didn't work out, I was like devastated.
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And now, of course, 43 year old me would look back and be like, oh, honey, you were so silly thinking like, oh, we're just going to live together and that'll work out.
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Did you convert after you married your husband now?
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We both converted at the same time like three and a half years ago to orthodoxy.
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We went from being like normie, non-denominational Protestants to being like more conservative Protestants and then realizing there's a whole batch of problems that comes with that.
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And then looking for answers in church history, do a little digging on the history of the church and you find the Orthodox Church and there's kind of no turning back after that, at least for us.
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So I'm just saying, like, I think this whole modern idea of we're going to have an egalitarian relationship where I work and he works and we're going to raise the kids together and we're going to be partners and we're going to share the chores.
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It doesn't really work very well for most people in reality.
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And we can see that in the extremely low rates of marriage and the really high rates of divorce and just the general dissatisfaction.
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This whole podcast exists because people can't figure out what the hell is going on with male-female relationships.
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Because, I mean, a lot of people, both parties have to work because of our economy at this time.
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True, but the reason they have to work is because women joined the workforce in huge numbers in the 70s and wages for men have been stagnant ever since then, have not kept up with inflation.
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So, yeah, now we're in a position where a lot of moms have to work.
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Well, they made the women have to join the workforce because the economy was already doing what it was doing.
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And the whole point, like, one of the big purposes.
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My oldest daughter, when she started working, she, like, graduated high school and started working.
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She called me and she's like, Mom, why do we do this?
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Why do we pretend that working a job is awesome and that we love it?
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Listen, there's a there's a small percentage of women who have a real purpose.
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They have real talent that should not be wasted.
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But it's the same way that we push everybody into college and not everybody belongs in college.
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If you have a real intellect, you have a real passion for something you're studying.
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I feel like that didn't really answer my question because I don't really mind.
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Like, I mean, if I could control it, then I guess.
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And here's my answer to that, because people ask me this.
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You would just have to make a lot of choices you don't want to make.
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You'd have to make a lot of compromises you don't want to.
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You might have to move to a cheap area in the rural Midwest where you can afford to stay home.
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You might have to work part time remotely from home so that you can prioritize the kids.
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We might have to have a financial revolution and overthrow the existing oppression.
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I was going to say, it sounds like a financial collapse will have to happen because if women exit the workforce en masse, then you're just going to run into a bunch of different problems.
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If everyone moves to the Midwest en masse, property costs, cost of living is just going to go up.
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Well, there's a difference between if you're asking me for my prescription.
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There's a difference between what I would prescribe for an individual person right now dealing with the system we're in versus what I would prescribe for the system long term.
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Long term, I think feminism will be looked backed upon as like this awful disaster that we tried and it failed and it was horrible and we're going to not.
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We're going to be ruled by feminist gargoyles for a while.
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We are, but the problem with it is that it's literally not sustainable.
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South Korea, the most westernized Asian country, has a birth rate of 0.78.
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Japan and Canada are now euthanizing the elderly because there's more elderly people in diapers than there are babies in diapers.
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The supply chain problems that we've been dealing with since the cough, cough stuff has never gone away because we actually can't import enough illegal immigrants
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to keep up with the supply and demand of what we need in the country, so.
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Rachel, before you get further into this, do you want to ask everyone who identifies as a feminist?
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Oh yeah, let's go around the table. Who's a feminist? You are?
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I identify as a feminist and in my beliefs that feminism to me is just equality. I believe in equality for men and women.
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Okay, how do we have equality if the men have to enforce women's rights on their behalf? If the men have to allow us, if the men go, we bestow upon you and gift you this equality, is that equal?
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Okay. Sorry Brian, I can't run your show. I can't be Brian, only one person can be Brian.
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Are you just going around, I guess, what about one? Are you a feminist?
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I would say, based off the definition of it, okay, I honestly don't know the textbook definition, so don't quote me on anything,
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but I think the way that it is now, and based off a lot of feminists that I've met, I would say no,
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just because I don't agree with what a lot of they agree with, but I think baseline, I think everyone believes in equality as a general thing.
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I don't think that's a crazy thing to want, but I wouldn't consider myself a feminist.
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I am a first wave feminist. I believe that women should have the right to vote.
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Those principles that came with that, and then the second wave in the 70s, I think that has been more detrimental.
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My name is Leonarda, and I'm recovering from feminism.
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It's been four years, seven months, and 32 days since I've taken a drink of equality.
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I would consider myself not, just because I agree and disagree with a couple of things, but I don't have much knowledge on that topic.
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Yeah, I think what you said was perfect. I feel that exact way.
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I like to call myself a feminist, but a lot of the things that feminists believe, I mean, again, there are so many different people call themselves feminists.
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There's not really a one thing where someone says, I'm a feminist, and they all agree.
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What if my definition was anything that is oppositional to patriarchy?
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It means the father's the head of the household.
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Would anyone change their answer if I defined it that way?
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Anybody here against patriarchy, for patriarchy?
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Well, it sounds like patriarchy led us into this, because if men are bestowing rights upon women, men at any time could take it back.
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Men are, we live under a natural patriarchy, and yet this is the situation we're in that, according to you, we're not at replacement birth rates.
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But it sounds like men did not do a very good job leading us into a beneficial situation.
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It sounds like they allowed a lot of pretty shitty things to happen.
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And I don't know if giving them the power is really such a good idea then.
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So do you think that when I say patriarchy, that means all men have all the same amount of power?
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That Brian has the same amount of power as like Donald Trump or, you know, or is there hierarchy within the male sphere of patriarchy where there are certain people who have certain men who have more power than others?
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Well, yeah, I think there's always going to be a hierarchy of power.
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So if you think there's always going to be a hierarchy of power, how are you a Marxist?
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I'm not really like a prescriptive Marxist, but I am a Marx, I mean, I think a lot of people don't really know what Marxism is.
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I'm a Marxist in the sense that I'm like a historical materialist.
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And like, when I think about things philosophically, I tend to think about them dialectically.
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But like, in terms of what I think the world should look like, I wouldn't really say I'm like, I don't, I don't want like a, no, I'm not a, I'm not a Hegelian.
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But if you, if you're doing historical materialism and dialectics, then you would be Hegelian, like by definition.
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No, Marx and Hegel did not have the same definition of like what the dialectic is necessarily.
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I think there's some, I don't, we don't really need to get into like a Hegelian dialectic.
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I don't know if that might be a little much for the podcast.
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But I think that I don't necessarily think I want to live in like a classless, stateless, moneyless society.
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So I wouldn't say I'm like a, like, but you would say you think patriarchy is not valid.
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You think there should be like women in positions of leadership or?
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Well, I mean, I'm saying that from your perspective, it sounds like patriarchy has failed.
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Men have failed to utilize their power effectively and bring us into a, birth rates are falling.
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So maybe their time has, time has come to get out of power.
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They kind of have to because this whole thing is kind of like a short term illusion to me.
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Like women don't have actual like natural rights in the way that we define them in the West.
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Now we talked a little bit about which men and why.
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It was generally like the really wealthy elites who wanted, why did they want this, right?
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They wanted it because there were the same folks who went to the Jekyll Island Club and
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There were the same people who had these giant factories and needed tons of cheap labor and
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couldn't import enough Chinese and, and, you know, poor European immigrants at the time to fill the factories.
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So it would be really nice if you could get a bunch of women in there and some good cheap labor.
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Uh, and it also gave them the opportunity to institute the public education system, which
03:36:10.180
For them to, them, for the federal government to be able to.
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That's why everybody's got to read Anne Frank's diary in third grade.
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So you're just saying the wrong men have been in power.
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The patriarchy has enabled the wrong men to come into power and lead us astray.
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I think, I think psychopaths kind of almost always rise to the top.
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History is basically just a story of a bunch of different psychopathic criminal gangs vying
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And right now the criminal gang that's been in power wants women's liberation because
03:36:38.180
So then I would say, I don't see how, I think that because patriarchy is inevitable, that's
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There needs to be like a force of women pushing back in whatever way they can against men's
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And I think that if you have women that aren't pushing back, then men are going to lead us
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But see, I feel like you're, that's, that's anti-Christian.
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Because obviously, Jesus highly, I mean, the first person he appears to after the resurrection
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And, and, and, and the fact that the, the gospels place such a high value on women for,
03:37:26.180
for that day and age is, I mean, it was groundbreaking.
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So they've, there is a high value for women within Christianity.
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I think you can be, I think Christianity is in and of itself pro woman.
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I don't think I can align Christianity with a ideology, another ideology.
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I don't think that, I think that Christianity is above and beyond it.
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But do you, you know what Paul said about women being in the church, right?
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Paul talks about a woman should not instruct men.
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He doesn't say that women should not instruct, like there is leverage for a woman counseling
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And there in the Bible, it's very clear that like a woman is only under the authority of
03:38:27.180
her husband, not all, not all husband, not all men.
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And I think, I think there's, and, and here's another thing.
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Like what's interesting is that the Bible acts in Luke and they are in all of his epistles.
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Paul frequently said, you know, like Priscilla, Lydia, he's, he's noting, he, he actually went
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So he went out and they had, they were having a discussion, an intellectual discussion.
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And she became a huge supporter of his ministry.
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But were women in any place in the Bible, were they rulers of men?
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Can you go around the table and ask who is more oppressed, men or women?
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No female priests and Christian, Christianity is a patriarchy.
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There, we literally have patriarchs just saying, but go ahead.
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She literally told, she told them to go into battle.
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Do you think that Deborah told the priests what to do?
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And she said, just so you know, people are going to laugh at you because you have a woman
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with you leading, like going out and leading before.
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So you think that Christian women can rule men?
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You think that Christian women should be in charge of the church?
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How is that inferred from an example of Deborah?
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Because you do a lot of prattling, but you don't ever get around to the damn point.
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I mean, you, so, so, so yes, I think there is, there are, you asked if there was a biblical
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I actually, I do think, I think that there is room for it.
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Christ came to establish his church, not leave you a book that is open to your interpretation
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where you can go, actually, I can be a lady preacher.
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First of all, just the fact that you've referred to the Bible, which is the inspired word of God
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It is, but can you interpret it individually on your own?
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No, you need the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
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Oh, and if you think the Holy Spirit says this, and I think the Holy Spirit says something else.
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So this is, for everybody who's watching at home and doesn't understand what's happening right now,
03:42:03.180
The Protestants believe in sola scriptura, only the Bible,
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and the Orthodox believe in the apostolic succession
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that what's been handed down from the time of Jesus to the apostles is king over the Bible.
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How you know they're wrong is they have gay flags hanging off their churches,
03:42:19.180
and they have lady preachers and women's Bible studies.
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Okay, this is from the woman who thought, okay, just saying,
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she thought that judges came during the time of kings.
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So she obviously doesn't know her church history that well.
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There were kings in the world at the time of judges in the Old Testament.
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So, do you guys use dating apps or what's happening?
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Yeah, I don't think that Nick and Brian want to say on this.
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I've never been on a dating app ever in my life.
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Well, I think the problem in Christian Mingle is the Protestants are going to go to war with the Orthodox.
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I'm just saying I think that you need to have room for leverage.
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And I'm not saying leverage as in like I want to interpret it as I want to interpret it.
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I'm just saying that like I think it's like Deborah obviously was a leader and she was a woman.
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So the fact that that example is in the Bible, which is the inspired word of God, means that obviously there is room for female leadership within the church.
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You should cover your head and you should be quiet and you should not ever have a role of leadership.
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Now if you have a limited situation where like maybe you need this woman to go over here and minister to some children because there isn't a deacon or something and it's a certain situation.
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But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use their poor authority over the man, but to be in silence.
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Brixen, get your big tumper back in your chair.
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Women can be important, but they're not authoritative.
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There are examples of women who are in leadership.
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Stop saying that I'm saying that because I'm not saying that.
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I would just like to point out that she showed everybody her butt so they know what they're getting on OnlyFans.
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I was trying to figure out how to show my butt without making it obvious and I wish I'd thought of that.
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Because everybody on the internet wants to see my butt.
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I would like to apologize because that was rude.
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You see what happens when a man leaves the table?
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First off, put your swords away for a second here, okay?
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Apparently, I was gone while you said this, Leonardo.
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I just saw the chat was like, whoa, she's racist.
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The views expressed by the panelists and by panelists, I mean Leonardo.
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I mean, if anybody took five minutes to look at my Twitter, you would know I was racist.
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You're literally listening to a woman on the internet?
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But because we're not going to do that, let's let them work.
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You ever been to, what's it called, White Plains?
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I think every girl's blood sugar at the table is dropping at the moment.
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And so we've got, hey, you have Reese's peanut butter cups, which every girl in here
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is not going to eat in front of another girl because we don't want to be accused
03:47:04.180
I got accused of being fat by the super chatters.
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I'm just saying, look, we got chocolate back there.
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You have, you lure her in with a steak and then she doesn't know what's happening.
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They seem like a trap to get men to spend hundreds of dollars.
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I don't necessarily think it means you're high value or not.
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If you are on one, but I've met some high value men on a dating app.
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You can find good people on there, but it's like, honestly, it's a waste of time and it's
03:48:20.180
Cause if it's, if you're a girl and you're scrolling on Tinder, you're not going to see
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a guy that's under, you know, a certain height.
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I'll tell you why it's a W for women because if men are seeking sex and women are seeking
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attention and validation at no other point in human history have mid average women been
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If, if y'all want attention and validation, social media, Instagram, dating apps.
03:48:57.180
If you're a girl scrolling on Tinder, you're not going to see a guy that's under a certain
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height, you know, but guys are going to see a bunch of plus size girls.
03:49:06.180
You read as if you're reading or you speak as if you're reading from a teleprompter.
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Like, it's kind of like you have a script in your head.
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No, she's got an earpiece and she's being fed by Andrew Tate.
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Is Andrew, are you on the, are you on the phone with Andrew Tate right now?
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No, I'm just, I'm trying to prove a point here.
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Andrew Tate, if you're listening, blink twice and we'll let you breathe.
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I'm trying to prove a point that dating apps are not made for men.
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If you're a girl scrolling on Tinder, you're not going to see a guy under a certain height.
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But if you're a guy, you're going to see a ton of plus size girls.
03:49:40.180
But if you're a guy, you're going to see a ton of plus size girls.
03:49:45.180
You know, like 60% of women say that they want a guy that's over six feet.
03:49:49.180
But you know, 78% of men also want a girl who isn't obese.
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But why aren't there weight preferences on dating apps?
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Why aren't there weight preferences on dating apps?
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It's because half of the women that use dating apps know that they would not.
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Is that half of the women that use dating apps know that if they put their actual weight
03:50:25.180
So dating apps are not made for men and no high value men probably are not on there
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You said you believe in equal rights for women.
03:50:48.180
The reality of dating as a sex worker, especially if you're dating a non-sex worker, have you
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Um, I've dated, majority of the men I've dated have not been sex workers.
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Like I've, I've never really honestly dated another guy that does.
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Um, no, because going into it, they know what I do.
03:51:23.180
Like I'm like, I don't force anyone into making content with me.
03:51:29.180
You know, if you want to do with me, you can, but like, you know, so it's never like really
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an issue because I don't, you know, like no one's forced in anything.
03:51:43.180
Well, has it become a problem like down the road in your relationships?
03:51:53.180
Yes, because, um, financially, a lot of the guys don't like how much I make compared to
03:52:08.180
It's a very personal question, but I make a very good amount of money.
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I'm not going to exclude what I make, but I make, I'm blessed.
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I'm very blessed, but I'm also, I've been, I've worked a long time on what I do and stuff.
03:52:45.180
And I didn't recently start making very, very good money until like two years.
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You said that you disagree greatly that people shouldn't, wait, wait, so that's a double
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You disagree greatly that people shouldn't be looked down upon for, wait, so then you do
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think people should be looked down upon for doing sex work.
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I disagree greatly that people shouldn't be looked down upon for doing sex work.
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That's because if you, but you, you disagree greatly that, so you disagree that people
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So then, so, so you, people should be looked down upon for doing sex work.
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They shouldn't is what I'm saying, but I meant to say was shouldn't.
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And also saying that I can completely understand from, from people who don't do it.
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I can understand the judgment and stuff, and it's a very taboo thing still.
03:54:06.180
Would you, uh, date somebody who works at McDonald's?
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Honestly, I would if they had, like, goals in their life and stuff.
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If they don't have goals in their life, then probably not.
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Cause that's a thing that I expect in my partner to have goals and aspirations.
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Is it looking down on a girl to refuse to date her because she does OnlyFans?
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I mean, I don't think you should look down on them, but I think if you don't want to date someone
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because they do OnlyFans, I think that's valid.
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What if somebody has an OnlyFans, but they're, um, I don't know if I want to throw y'all under the bus.
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What if they're like in furtherance of making money, they're lying to their customer base to fleece and siphon more money from them.
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Would that be justified reason for like a normie to look down on a sex worker?
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Because they're essentially committing a fraud on their audience.
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Like, are you saying like if they said that they weren't with someone and then they were?
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Well, for example, a lot of girls offer what they call a girlfriend experience.
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I don't know if I want to like, cause he's talking about you.
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I think the men who were paying for it know that it's not real though.
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I was originally going to say, but I will say like some girls will not make it clear
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that they're offering the, like it's just a girlfriend experience, but the dude's never
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The girls will actually lead the guys on into thinking that they have, the girl has some
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desire for the man when it couldn't be anything further, further from the truth.
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They in all probability actually have a boyfriend, which they keep private from their OnlyFans customers
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and clients because that would hurt them, their bottom line.
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And they're, they are basically will fleece their customers, uh, under the guise of like,
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Oh, I want to have a relationship with you, but that will never ever happen.
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Uh, would that be pretext and justification for a man to look down on the sex worker and
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be like, you're preying on these men who are desirous of having a relationship with you,
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but you're really just using them for their money.
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Or do you think that's justified behavior from sex workers?
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Like, could you put it to the base or something?
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Basically, I think he's trying to say like, there tends to be a lot of manipulation and deception
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There was that, uh, South Park episode with raisins.
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Like you pretend like you really care and you, you'd like, you're, you're helping.
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If men are dumb enough to fall for that though, I don't think, I don't think the
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What do you think about these fuck boy player guys who will tell girls about their romantic,
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romantic interest in them in furtherance of fucking them and never talking to them again.
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Well, if she's just dumb enough to fall for the fuck boy who's saying, babe, I love you.
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And then he fucks her and never talks to her again.
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But is there some culpability on the guy's part for doing that?
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I'm saying if you are paying a woman for attention and you're not smart enough to realize that
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you are a paying customer for a service, you're not that bright.
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A man who is giving a woman affection for free and leading her on in the sense that he
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I think some women are incredibly dumb and let men lead them on for way too long.
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Some of these guys are very good at being deceptive.
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When I go to Target and I buy something, I don't think that the cashier is my friend.
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Like, I realize, well, that's a bad example because you're not really paying the cashier.
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You're dumb if you think that you're paying for something.
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But don't women do the same thing when some guy is like, oh, baby, I really love you.
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We all know that what men are trying to do is fuck.
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And I think that's the problem is that some men are genuine and some aren't.
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What's that thing called when you, like, as soon as the guy, what's that thing called when they?
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So maybe the guy is serious or being honest and then that happens and then he loses interest.
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Well, from the guy's perspective, a guy might look and go, well, okay, look, the average
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We've all seen these videos of women demanding like a five star restaurant for the first date,
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So they're thinking, okay, the average woman wants me to pay to get her time and attention.
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And like the OnlyFans girl, the stripper only wants 20 bucks.
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Like, well, then that's fine if you want to opt for that, but you should be smart enough
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to realize that it's not genuine and that you're a paying customer.
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I think for a lot of men, they basically look at women and go, okay, you see me as a wallet
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Like, and it is transactional now in the current situation.
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But then in that case, we're looking down on the woman for participating.
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You said you wouldn't date a guy who worked at McDonald's and had no ambitions.
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The question that I have though, cause you see, this is where we have a problem.
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Uh, women who go on OnlyFans, they make a ton of money, right?
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And then all of a sudden they start rating themselves value wise with men this way.
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And you don't realize what's happening is you're literally getting paid for your vagina.
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It doesn't, it doesn't really involve a whole lot of skill.
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You don't even have to be that good looking cause men actually have a lower standard of
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Like they find more women attractive than women to find men attractive.
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You can put some makeup on, do some stuff, do some lighting, all that.
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So there's a kind of inflated sense of what you would actually be matched with because
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the guy at McDonald's might actually have an equal level of skills.
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I mean, I guess, but I'm like, if the guy at McDonald's doesn't at least have something
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he wants to do past that, like I have other things I want to do past my OnlyFans, then
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How are we going to transition from the OnlyFans to the...
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And I also, like, I also have a clothing brand.
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And I have, and I also like, I'm smart with my money.
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So if I wanted to go to school and, which I've thought about it recently, but if I
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want to go to school, I can easily go to school and I'm set.
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Do you think that the neck tattoos and the face stuff and the piercings and the OnlyFans
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I think, um, it depends on what occupation, but also I think as time goes on, people are
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more accepting and find it like kids nowadays, um, find it relatable and stuff like tattoos
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Like, so I don't think it's going to be as judged as the old generation does, you know?
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And all the tattoos that are up here start to be down here.
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Like you want to live into your forties and fifties, right?
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Emirati's girl wears a real Madrid shirt, but probably doesn't know where Madrid is.
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Go around and ask everyone to name three countries.
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And I can't even think of one because they took all of them.
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You said that you had a dude that lied about his age completely after sleeping together
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So when I met him, he said he was 25 years old.
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And after we like went on a couple of dates and I like, we ended up like sleeping together.
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And he did some weird things like, uh, just like, you know how usually you would like
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tell things, tell people if you're like into like weird things and stuff.
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Well, like he kind of just, um, like in the beginning, in the initiation of like, I guess,
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uh, sex, he like put my armpits up, arms up and smelt my armpits.
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And I was just like, he smelled, he was like, he was just into that.
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It was just very, I didn't know he was into that either.
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They like, of course they're, they want to smell your womanly.
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So wait, would he like, did you hook up with him multiple times?
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You guys are like practically gay if he doesn't want to smell you.
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Would you, uh, have you had the experience of he would like tell you not to shower?
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You, uh, it's, you, he said he was 25, but he was actually 35.
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But he just like, you know, he was actually 35.
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Um, he like looked young for his age, but the more I looked at him after he told me,
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Cause I mean, even for like, yeah, even for men, there's pretty big difference between like 35 and 25.
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I just, I just thought he, you know, didn't have the best hair or something.
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You said, you also said men shouldn't be allowed to tell their girlfriends if they can or can't
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Same for the opposite side of the coin, of course.
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Like if you are going to get into a relationship with a significant other, whether it be your
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boyfriend or your girlfriend, I don't think you should be allowed to tell them if they
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You know, you can just like break up with them.
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Kind of like how, like if there was a robber breaking into the house or something, I don't
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think my girlfriend should tell me that I should deal with it.
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I should use her as a meat shield and she can take care of the home intruder.
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If she's a strong, independent woman, I agree with you.
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All the feminists should have to be meat shields.
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I don't think either of the people should have to fight the robber.
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So we had a home invasion some years back, maybe.
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Is this the one where like they stole Andrew's firearms?
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And my dogs were barking like crazy at my window.
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And I was like, wait, why are they at my window?
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We're both like trained firearms instructors, but he took a shotgun, went to the top of the
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We had kids in the back bedroom and Andrew had previously like instructed us.
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And we had practiced this and everybody out there with kids, you should do this.
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If something like this happens so that at 4 in the morning, when you're not even with
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But I'm, you know, in the back bedroom, you have to get through me to get to the kids.
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Kind of like that whole Christ man, wife, child thing.
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And Andrew went to the top of the steps and pumped a shotgun and yelled out a warning
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to the people that were in our basement and they fled.
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He didn't end up having to, you know, do anything, but he scared them with the pump
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of the shotgun and his loud masculine voice and they ran off and we were all fine.
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But all that just to say, like, do you really want to be, you want a man who's like, sweetie,
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sweetie, get the shotgun and go, go scare away the intruders.
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I mean, honestly, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to put the, the love of my life in danger
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Nobody wants to, but the whole family's in danger when you've got crazy.
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You've got crazy meth heads that are trying to rob you in the middle of the night.
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I remember one time I was on a date with this guy.
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I was on a date with this guy and we were walking down the street.
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In my, in my feminist days and, uh, we were walking down the street and some crazy looking
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And I kind of like leaned into him a little bit and he was like, he was British.
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Just wanted to say this is one of the best panels you've had in a while, Brian.
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Woman in the center in black is hilarious and sassy.
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So, so I leaned into him when I saw this guy coming at us and then he goes, Hey, well,
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you know, you could probably defend us better than I could.
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And I was like, even though I was a feminist, I felt something in my gut sink.
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And then my feminist brain was like, you shouldn't need a man to protect you.
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And then, but still I, I didn't go on another date.
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So I'm going to get to my, we have two questions.
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So I'll try to get through it as quickly as possible.
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Uh, Nicole, you said that you consider yourself more moderate.
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You're probably leaning a bit more conservative, but you subscribe to a lot more liberal sociological
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So, um, basically that just means that I've seen a lot of discussion on what a woman is
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and I subscribe to the theory that gender is, um, performance.
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So that means that, um, basically when you perceive people, you'd, hold on.
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Let's dance girl in blue is Bay wood simp, but seriously have Rachel on more.
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Andrew causes things to be way too combative and it throws the whole show off emo.
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Essentially because, um, you know, we, we, I hear a lot of people talk about biology and
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But the fact of the matter is that we don't check each other's chromosomes when we see each
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other, but we know if you're a man or a woman when you see them.
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And also I really don't like the biological like reductive ism kind of because anyways,
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Because I'm, um, I'm Catholic and I do believe that gender roles are important, but the thing
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I think that society should enforce gender roles and a lot of conservatives just boil
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it down to, well, like, it's just what you have in your pants.
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Um, well, let me, let me just ask you then what is a woman?
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So a woman in the gender sense in the sociological sense is someone that does the duties that,
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So you think a woman is someone who acts like a woman?
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Um, I think that, you know, it does become kind of a, um, difficult question, but in the
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same way that I think race is a social construct because race is just what someone looks like.
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They're going to be so mad when you say the word social construct.
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Just because something is social construct doesn't mean it's not real.
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You don't understand the meaning of your words.
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Language has rules in the same way that gender has rules.
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I think that people should align with the roles that are with their sex, but that doesn't
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Let me have everybody's answer to the question.
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Between your legs because people are going to come at me for that.
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Like, I, I think like, you know, based on what genitalia you have, like that's the gender
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Your grandmother and her grandmother, going back through all human history, never struggled
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Do you honestly think this generation is more enlightened than your ancestors?
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Well, let's get everybody's answer to this question.
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I think a woman is someone with breasts and a vagina.
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But there's no, by the way, this shows you that there is absolutely no Marxist training
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in schools, that there are two responses there.
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I think it describes what, I'm trying to say this in a way that's concise, I'm sorry.
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It describes what is expected of someone who is born with female chromosomes and female
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It describes what we expect of them, what their role is in society.
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It's better to just actually state your position than just say, I agree with this person, just
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Well, a human adult with two X chromosomes that is also born with the parts of a woman.
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A human that presents themselves as a woman, you know?
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Like if you present yourself as a woman and that's what you go by, then you're a woman.
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Yeah, so the person that did the chat, they said that, you know, people aren't confused,
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or people back in the day weren't confused about their gender or anything.
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I think that people are using biology because I don't think that men should, or people who
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are born with XY chromosomes should take on the role that women have.
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But that's, you know, if you just reduce it to biology, then it doesn't matter because
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I wanted to kind of try, since it's a dating podcast, let me frame it a bit from a dating
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Let me ask, I'll try to ask this fairly simple question here for you.
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Would you object to a man not wanting to date a transgender woman?
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I think that, see, that's where it gets tough because, like I was trying to say before,
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But I think it's inappropriate for a person to try and change what their race looks like.
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Like someone might take on the race, like change their appearance so they look like
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But if it's a social construct, why can't they just fit into another social construct?
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Well, I guess they could, but I don't think it's right.
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Well, then that means you're pointing out to an objective reality.
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So my point is that I don't support this change in the social construct.
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I know, but that's circular there because it's a social construct that comes from society.
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That's what a social construct is, something that's socially.
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So where does it, where does society, what is society made of?
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And where do these people get this idea of a social construct from?
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It's the same way that culture is a social idea.
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Are people just pulling things out of the air and then saying, this is a man and this
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I mean, I know we're doing that now, but is this what people have done from the beginning
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Well, I mean, I, a lot of the social role of women comes from biology.
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The social role of women was going to be separate for this discussion from what a woman
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It's going to be the, the social role of let's say, you know, a different, uh, race
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is also going to be separate from what a race is.
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So if you're going to say that this is why the social construct argument doesn't make
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any sense because a social construct has to be created by someone.
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An arbitrary standard or did they look at objective things in reality and define it accordingly?
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Well, you agree that women have a social role, right?
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Like, you know, women are typically supposed to.
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Because when you say supposed to, that means it's been enforced upon them from the outside,
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Society is creating this to oppress women, to oppress different races, as opposed to an
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inclination that comes from the biology towards these things.
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I think that people can be like, people can use their biology and that, you know, ties
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I don't think they're divorced from each other.
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I don't think being a woman and being female, because, um, the thing is, when I say woman,
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You redefine terms to fit your argument and then we can't.
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Again, bringing it back to dating, is it straight for a man to date a trans woman?
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Wait, is it straight for a man to date a trans woman?
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Would it be straight for a, say a biological male to date a trans woman?
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It's straight for the man to continually date and see the trans woman.
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But I don't see how it's gay for the, for a person to be attracted to a person who is
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But so is, would it be, would it be straight for a man to date a trans woman?
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I'm just saying if someone is attracted to someone who looks like a woman, I
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What she often does is she changes the question into an easier question to answer
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I said it's not straight to date a trans woman.
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The definition, okay, well, I don't know if this really makes, so straight is like short
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So when we, how could it, if, if it, so would your argument then shift to be a transgender
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Again, I think that I'm talking about, okay, when we talk about biology and we talk about
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One question is a transgender woman, male or female?
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I actually, I don't want to linger too long on this specific topic.
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I mean, you're kind of right when you say it's just fashion because when men pretend
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to be women, they think it's just a dress up costume.
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What do you think about, but why should we honor that?
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Why should we, why should we affirm or respect that?
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Most of the time, these men are dressing up as the woman that they would want to bang
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or their fantasy of what that woman would do with them.
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Margaret Fuller was writing in the 1800s about gender as a spectrum and everybody being
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somewhere on the spectrum and gender abolition.
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When they get mad about like men and women's sports, I just laugh because I'm like, you
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Stifler asked everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10.
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I've never seen someone break down the circular logic of society so quickly.
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I should have put that on the table so everybody.
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Getting into some of the other notes here from Nicole.
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You said you like to call yourself a feminist, but I think I'm more traditional in the way
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So, like I said in the beginning, I kind of like the approach of psyoping feminism.
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I think it's the most effective approach because I actually do really care about women a lot.
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And I think that women are playing themselves when they just have casual sex and stuff like that.
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So, that's why, I don't know, that's my approach.
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And it seems to work with the people that I've talked to and my friends just anecdotally.
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And I don't really see, so far I haven't seen a more effective solution.
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Yeah, I just mean I like to twist feminism into basically just being, you know, I say
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I'm a feminist and I quote feminists, but I go off of, because I'm Catholic and that,
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like, informs a lot of my worldview, I'm still very Catholic.
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So, I just like to refer to feminists that follow my Catholic worldview.
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It's been hours of you saying this and I want to understand, but I'm still super confused.
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No, I think that your foundational worldview is based on your faith.
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And then the level above that is based on these certain ideologies.
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And so you are only inclined towards the ones which already can be aligned with your faith.
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You can't transition into something you're not.
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Why have women dropped the argument against appropriation?
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But my point about feminism, I think that just anecdotally, like on a one-to-one level, when
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it comes to girls that I talk to that are like, you know, they're sleeping around and
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When I say, I want this for you because I'm Catholic and I believe this because of I'm
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But when I say I am a feminist too and I believe that this isn't, you know, helpful for you
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Like, I do support women and I want you to be in a more healthy mindset or a more healthy
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I'm not an expert in the Catholic faith, but isn't it the case that under Catholicism,
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But that's just because the priests don't want to molest them.
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So wouldn't your feminist, so feminism, equality, how do you reconcile the Catholic faith of
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barring women from positions of authority in the church with being a feminist?
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Well, I don't think that feminism, at least in the way that I'm using it, means that women
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I think that it means that women are happier when they, or women tend to be happier when
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they do, I guess, the things that they ought to do within the Catholic faith.
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Interesting the way the social construct lines up with their own inclinations towards happiness.
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I don't understand how you're a feminist, then.
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You have to understand, the term feminism does not mean the same thing to her as what
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Because, like, I think I've asked that, like, three, four, five times, and I don't understand
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In your, like, if you don't want patriarchy, and you're a feminist, what's the difference?
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I'm using the word feminist to mean that I am pro-woman when I talk to other women.
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Wouldn't it be pro-women to allow women to be bishops and cardinals within the Catholic
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I think it's pro-women to do things that are beneficial to women, and I don't think it's
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beneficial to women to have them take positions of power like that.
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Should women be able to participate in the workforce?
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So why shouldn't women be able to participate in the hierarchy of the church?
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Because work and the church and the church authority is a lot different.
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The church, the priest takes on the persona of Jesus in the mass, and women cannot do
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And women have their own role in the church, and it's not that.
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Women can be, I mean, obviously very nurturing, and women...
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Well, I mean, I guess, what does patriarchy mean?
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Okay, so you are a patriarchist, but you're just saying you're a feminist in order to
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When we go into her world, it's the bizarro universe, and the words flip.
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I don't totally agree, because I'm not a Catholic.
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I don't necessarily agree with you on what the gender roles should be, or what people ought
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to do, but I understand that your personal views under Catholicism about the church, you're
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You're talking about using feminism to promote the general well-being of women.
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It doesn't necessarily align with how you live your own life.
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You think that's the best way to promote the general well-being of women and their welfare?
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That sounds like a bunch of woman prattle bullshit to me.
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When I say feminism, I actually mean patriarchy.
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She's talking about using feminism, meeting women where they are.
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I don't actually disagree with what your little proposal was.
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Women are more inclined to listen to a feminist perspective.
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Because you're talking about on a one-in-one perspective.
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Like, I really do want to understand other people.
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And if people are using the word feminism to describe things, like, I feel oppressed...
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The best way to meet people where they are is to do that.
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The patriarchy's got to come in and smash feminism.
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What I'm realizing listening to this is that I long for a time when we didn't have to convince
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I long for a time when we didn't have to be like...
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Let's figure out how to pull them in and make them agree.
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Yeah, I mean, let's tell the men, too, because they're not stepping up.
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I just don't think that's a very effective way to drop people in.
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I think it's extremely effective because men have the monopoly on force.
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And if they just say no tomorrow, if the men just say, eh, you know what?
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Your feminism stuff, your women making the choices and doing what you want, just no.
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It will be a never-ending torture chamber of, but what about the men, though?
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Ever since I became red-pilled base conspiracy woman, my marriage proposals have gone through
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So if you ladies are trying to lock in a man, just say something racist and you're good
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Like, I do think it's actually a big red flag for a lot of men.
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If you were saying the same thing at my age, oh, it would be over for you.
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Also, they're not going to tell you, but I'm telling you this.
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They all have this thought in the back of their mind.
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As soon as you say you're a feminist, unless he's like really saying...
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I got to see what his testosterone levels are at.
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But most of the time, these dudes with high T and that really have ambition in the
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As soon as you say feminist, they go, oh, this is going to be a problem.
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And that keeps them from being like, let's go full throttle and marry this chick and
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Nicole, you said your extremely religious ex showed up to your house to tell your parents
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that you were a lesbian because he was trying to save you?
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In a state of limerence, you wrote a 20-page document within two weeks all about the guy
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who tried to say you were a lesbian that you liked, that I had known only online for a
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while previously, and then he drove out to see you in DC and I immediately stopped liking
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him and you ceased all contact with him after we were good friends for a good three years?
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Like, we weren't that close, but then he's, I don't know.
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I just, I was like obsessed with him and then I only knew him online because he was
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friends with my friend's cousin who I would play video games with.
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A couple more notes here, then we're going to get to Julia.
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Going to you, you said hookup culture is bad for women.
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You had some disagreements though with myself or the show.
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You said that you disagree that there's nothing suspect about age gap relationships and that
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Actually, I was doing a lot of, you know, reflection before the show to make sure I could, you know,
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like really articulate my points if I disagreed.
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I don't think that age gap relationships are a big deal.
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But I think when people have an ick about something, they should really figure out why.
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And I realized it was just because it often comes with the power imbalance.
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But just in the same way, I would feel that way if someone who's really rich was dating someone who's really poor.
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Well, I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with it.
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I just think it's really easy for someone to abuse their power in that situation.
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So I guess the threat of someone abusing their power is what makes me uncomfortable.
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Because I think people can have completely genuine, real age gap relationships.
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Couldn't you make the argument that actually when it comes to abusive behavior, the person who's poor,
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who's seeking out the rich person is much more likely to be the one who's trying to get something out of it as composed to the rich person?
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Like it seemed like the rich person is going to abuse...
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You don't really even have to be rich to perpetuate financial abuse.
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And I realized that I was uncomfortable with the thought that someone could very easily abuse their power in that situation.
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I think there's a knee-jerk reaction when people think the woman is being manipulated.
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Everyone's innate reaction is protect the woman.
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And when the man's being manipulated, it's like, well, he just shouldn't be so stupid.
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So nobody cares if it's a 40-year-old woman with an 18-year-old guy.
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They're like, well, he just wants to bang and it's fine.
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But if it's a 40-year-old man with an 18-year-old girl, suddenly the 18-year-old woman who we consider a strong, independent woman in every other sense is a helpless, innocent victim.
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You also said that, well, you've changed your position on it, so there's really not much to discuss there, really.
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You said optics and tone policing are important.
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Was this about Andrew Wilson or was this about me?
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He brings up tone policing sometimes when people say, well, I agree with you, but I don't like the way you said it.
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I think it's just because he doesn't meet people where they're at.
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Do you want the vision that you see for the world or not?
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Yeah, and the vision I see for the world is not going to be met through convincing a bunch of emotional, irrational women that what is reality is non-negotiable.
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You can just say this is that is just being emotional.
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This whole I agree with what you said, but not how you said it.
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And this is the problem with giving women power because now suddenly everyone's an HR manager.
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I just don't understand why you have to say woman in front of it because it's a woman problem.
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Men don't constantly go, actually, I agree with you.
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I just don't like to deliver what you think are weaknesses with men in society today.
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If you truly are telling me that you have an objective view, I would like you to share what you think are some weak areas of men in our society.
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Because I want to see if you can actually be objective or if you're just a mouthpiece for your husband.
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Well, clearly I can't think with my woman brain, but if you'll be quiet long enough to let me talk, I'll tell you, I'll explain this to you.
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It's because men generally, there's a male hierarchy, right?
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If you're a man and you act like a little bitch like that, you get beat up.
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Women are the only people who run around going, you know, I know that you're correct, but I just don't like the delivery.
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I'm in my feelings and I don't like the way that you said it.
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Right, and then men who act that way are being feminine.
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They're being beta feminine bitches and they get put in their place.
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Which is why, when you're parsing out the truth, female aggression is different.
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When you are parsing out the truth, you don't cater to women's stupid fucking feelings about it.
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I value femininity and femininity means you sit down and you be quiet when people are parsing out the truth and telling you what's what.
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None of my wisdom as an older woman to let all of you know that you're full of shit and you're being ridiculous.
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But why are you at home being quiet and fulfilling your feminine role?
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And the reason I ask it is because I want to see if you are able to view male and female strengths and weaknesses objectively.
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Because right, this podcast, and I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume because it is this podcast.
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I would like to see where you think are areas of men, men in society that are, that are weaker points.
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I would say that where men tend to go wrong is by being so desirous of women and putting them on a pedestal that they kind of go along and they, you know, fluff them up and go along with their nonsense because they want pussy.
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And I think that's probably the biggest weakness that a lot of men.
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Can you, is there any weakness that you can list that doesn't have anything to do with women?
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Do you feel better just hating on your own gender?
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Single fathers have a better turnout rate than single mothers.
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Single fathers have a better turnout rate than single mothers.
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So the problem right now is that we have an inverted social order.
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The social order is not meant to be that we must cater to women's feelings and that women have to be okay with how things are said and they have to approve.
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And we have to convince them and we have to pull them over to our side.
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The way it's supposed to be is that the order is men, then women, then children.
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The women can have their opinions all day, but it doesn't mean that anybody has to give a shit about them.
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Do you think men in our society struggle with being passive?
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Because I would argue that that's something that's a problem.
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The ones that end up at the top running things do not pay any attention to the passive bitches at the bottom and they get stuffed in lockers.
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So historically, every one of us sitting here has twice as many female ancestors as we have male ancestors.
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The reason for that is that men have to compete to be worthy of reproduction.
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Someone's going to come along and inseminate you.
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You don't have to do anything wonderful or unique.
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Now you can compete for higher quality as a woman, but to reproduce as a woman, all you have to do is be fertile.
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As a man, historically, you have to compete for the women.
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So the betas, the cucks, the feminine men, they get used as cannon fodder, ditch diggers.
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As a woman of God, I would assume that you would put value in women.
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And that's what I don't hear in any of the arguments.
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I put value in women as mothers, as wives, as caretakers.
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They don't belong in college with a few very minor exceptions.
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We used to have women that, like me, would spend their early years raising kids.
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As they get older and their kids start to leave the nest, they're helping the younger generations raise their kids.
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They're helping their sisters, their nieces, their daughters raise children.
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We don't have that anymore because women are all in cubicles working for corporations and paying taxes.
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Getting sexually harassed by their bosses instead of their husbands at home where they should be.
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And my message to all of you women out there who don't like my tone is I don't fucking care.
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If you didn't get past your own feelings to hear what I'm saying, then you're going to doom yourself to a life of music.
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No, I think Christianity is being, I think kindness is being soft.
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But you know what God is called, the first, when God describes himself in the old, in Exodus,
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the first adjective that he uses in Exodus 34, he says, I am a God of compassion.
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I think you're filtering everything through your woman feelings.
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I think that you're in your feelings right now.
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So every argument that I've just provided for you is scripture.
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You are filtering your perception of Exodus through your woman feelings.
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You could look up Exodus 34 and it will say, I am a God of compassion.
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So I have to meet your standard for compassion for you to accept my message.
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You're here to make sure that I speak the way that you think I should speak.
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You know, I have a husband and I have a priest, right?
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And if they think that the way I'm talking is not correct, they will correct me.
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No, but technically we are supposed to be part of the same family, like sisters in Christ.
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And what we need is women who will boldly speak the truth and not mince words and not
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be subject to the HR management department and the hall monitors-
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Who are going to sit and be at home and be quiet.
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When I'm at home, sweetheart, I am quiet and I am submissive to my husband.
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But I'm here in a panel full of feminists and a panel full of modern women.
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And so I'm here to tell you all that you're full of shit and that I don't care what you
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Don't tone police me and say, well, you're right, Rachel.
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I just don't like the way you delivered it because I don't care.
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Well, tell that to the Amazon bestseller list, which disagrees.
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But you've sold a lot of books, but have you changed anything?
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I was just going to say like selling books doesn't mean you've changed anything.
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Maybe the hundreds of messages, letters and DMs from women around the world saying that
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they've decided to not go to work, stay home with this kid.
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I think it's a shame because you obviously have a big platform and I think it's unfortunate.
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You talk about how you don't, we always think I feel.
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I said, I think it's a shame because you have a large platform and you're representing
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And unfortunately, I don't think you're representing true Christian values very well.
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And I'm not saying, I did not do a perfect example.
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I will do something light soon that will get you all involved.
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So before, actually, before we get to your notes-
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Do you have any final things you want me to say before I-
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Can you tell us about any problematic groups that require flash?
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I have a masculine man who is picking me up, and he said 10 p.m. sharp.
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Now he knows I'm a lady, and I'm going to be late, and I have to respect his time.
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So before anybody starts with me, I'm being a good woman.
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In the hierarchy of things, he's higher T than you, so you would be submissive to him,
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And I know he's higher T because he's lost more hair than you, so let's-
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First of all, I don't have sex outside of marriage.
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Wait, there was the Reddit thing we were going to do?
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So this is, what is the worst thing someone has said to you during sex?
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And before you give your answers, I'm going to have you read.
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Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
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Not me, but an old friend of mine, really quiet, soft-spoken, polite guy, a total gentleman,
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and a graduate student in the liberal arts, also pretty inexperienced, tentative, and vanilla
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He's dating this really cool girl for maybe two months.
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She floats the idea of dirty talk and apparently likes to be objectified from time to time.
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She's hesitant but wants to please her and doesn't dismiss the idea outright, changes
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the subject, and figures that they'll revisit the idea another time anyway.
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Um, for the first time since the conversation, really going at it doggy style, and she tells
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He says that he can't think of anything to say, so he says nothing.
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But the second time, she is not fucking requesting, but demanding it.
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He has never struck me as one for embellishment, so I believe him.
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He said that he was- he said that was it for sex that night, although they are together
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So what's the- what was the- uh, what is the worst thing someone has said to you during
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It's kind of hard to- can you start on that side?
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I don't think I've had anyone say anything like, crazy, weird, or bad.
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Uh, so the question is, what is the worst or funniest thing that someone has said to
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Like, any- anything anyone says makes me- I don't like talking at all.
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I think we can maybe, like, uh, I think we have you, uh, you scoot that way, I think.
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He's just with you because he likes to hear you chitter chatter.
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She's a virgin OnlyFans girl who lets her boyfriend fuck other women.
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Is the blonde chick next to Brian Andrews' twin sister or something?
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They have the same emotionally immature, aggressive, and arrogant communication style.
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I'm, like, really, like, I'm being, like, 100% serious.
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I'll have intercourse with him when we're married.
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Because high-value men don't date celibate girls.
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I'm, if anybody who's watching the show right now knows you,
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I invite them to absolutely spill any details about you.
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Is that part of the reason why you let him sleep with other girls?
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Like, I don't- I don't believe a word she fucking says at this point.
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Um, it wasn't like when we were fucking, but when we were like intimate, he asked me if
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And like, we're still friends now and like, every once in a while he'll like, pull his
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wrist up and be like, I remember what you did to me.
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I did, on like, I guess my friend's behalf, like one of my best friends, she-
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On my friend's behalf, I do remember them telling me like, they had a guy who they dated
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He would prefer for her to be on her stomach, and he'd spread her ass and he'd say, fart for
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Rachel, oh, Rachel mopping the floor with these-
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Ladies, pay attention to what she's saying, not how she's saying it.
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Would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods, starting with
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Okay, so in the same way that it's a random man, it's a random bear that you would find
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Regular adult size and an adult man and an adult bear.
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I would say, based off my life experience, yeah, I would say probably bear.
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Panda and the rest of the panel, I'd just like to say from all of us here at the Crucible,
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continue to seethe and cope because based Rachel just destroyed you.
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I would be so scared if I saw a bear in the forest.
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Have you ever heard the saying online like, well, a bear wouldn't take off your pants
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How many men do you guys think just randomly S-A a lot?
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So what proportion, so when I say random man, that would just essentially be plucking
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So what percentage of men in the U.S. do you think if presented with some opportunity
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Like around, I'd say probably like five to 10%.
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So if you, I, here's another, here's another question.
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Uh, if, if you were in the bathroom, would you rather a man or a bear wanders in?
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Well, a bear can't fucking undo the door really.
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Let's say it's one of those like high ceiling bathrooms.
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Cause I'll leave the window and I'll, I'll keep the bear in there.
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A high ceiling, which means that the, the divider doesn't go all the way to the top.
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Do you think this is like a scene or a problem?
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Because in that case I would change my answer to a bear.
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I'm not saying the bear might not do that, but it could in the same way the man might
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So it might just be a man accidentally wandering into the bathroom.
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He's not, he's not like following me into the bathroom.
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Cause in that case I'd pick the bear because the bear could be just lost.
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Why don't the bear and the man, yeah, have the same, like.
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But if a man's following you into the bathroom, it's kind of like a red flag.
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It's like a gender neutral bathroom and he's just in there chilling.
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Cause the man probably is up to some nefarious.
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Well, in that case she probably just wants to go to the bathroom.
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It's more likely that that person is going to be predatory.
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Because they're going into the bathroom because it is a fetish.
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You're like generalizing all trans saying that it's a fetish.
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And mentally ill people are more likely to, you know, I'm mentally ill and I'm not going
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But I do want to ask a question for those of you who answered bear.
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If we replace man with black person, does this question become racist?
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I mean, I would, I would still choose the bear because a man, man either way, you know?
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Black person, like meaning like female or male?
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But he's asking if changing the proposition of the question makes the question racist.
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Like changing the race of the person, like if it's racist.
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How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
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It's just, it kind of tests your ability to entertain a hypothetical situation.
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But in that case, it's not a hypothetical situation because she didn't have breakfast.
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How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast?
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Here's the, so if the question is, would you rather come across a random black person
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I mean, so you said it's like, it could be a man or a woman or it doesn't matter.
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If I'm in the woods and a random person comes up to me, it's going to scare me regardless.
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The original question is, would you rather, you're going to come across either a random
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But I'm asking if we like change it to race, does it then become a racist?
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If you're, if you answer bear, is it a racist answer?
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Now, what if the same justifications that you used for picking a bear over a man, the
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risk of SA, you use those same exact justification and pretext for picking the bear?
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I'd rather pick a bear because this racial group.
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Well, I mean, I think it, it doesn't make sense because if you were to say, if you were
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to change it to like a black man, but if you're saying if it was like a black person in general,
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like a woman or like a black child, like I'm pretty, I would choose, I would choose them.
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But if you're saying men in general, whether it's black, Asian, whatever, man, I would choose the bear.
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Well, there's a 50% chance you get a man, a 50% chance you get a woman.
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Well, is there a 50% like I get a bear and a 50%?
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So I get either a good bear or a bad bear or like a man or a woman?
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And I'm just like, and I'm just flipping a coin on whether I get a man or a woman walking
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I'm like, I guess, I guess, yeah, no, I would still choose the man or the woman.
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Cause I guess at least I have the probability of it being a woman.
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The point I'm trying to make here, if the original, if the question of, if you change it to
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like a race based question, if it's racist, then it must, it must of course then be sexist
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If you were to say where you, if you were to choose a man or a bear and someone chose
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And if you were to change it to black man and they chose the bear, then it would be racist.
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I think like, I think the reason this question is causing so much kerfuffle online is because
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it kind of shows how much women think men are inherently abusive, violent, risky, dangerous.
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When in actuality, this is super irrational to choose the bear over the man.
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And so it shows that women are easily propagandized emotional in their decision-making and that
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They're going to go based off of like emotional impulse.
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I said life experience for me because like I, my first relationship, my only relationship
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was the worst I've ever been through my entire life.
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So for me, based off what I've been through, like.
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The Grand Inquisitor and the Inquisition patriarchy supports Mrs. Rachel and enjoyed the roasting
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And then we do have one chat here really quick from, thank you, Boulay.
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Uh, has any guy called you more than one girl's name during sex?
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Ever been called a different girl's name during?
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Yeah, so like obviously like why I said I wanted to like try to be unbiased in my answer
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is because obviously I know my experience was not the experience of every person.
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Like you have a great relationship and you've also had bad ones and obviously you can't base
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But to an extent, I don't think my like answer is not necessarily emotional, but it's more
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just like I've just happened to have really bad experiences with a lot of men.
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I'm just like confused though because a bear is like instant death.
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Like you're saying you would rather just choose death than to be put in the same room
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Because unless you've never had interactions with wildlife, if you've ever had interactions
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But I think this explains how women, this is a difference between men and women that's
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By if you go, if you make a generalization, you say women tend to, women tend to be shorter
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There will always be some woman that pipes up and goes, but I'm actually five foot
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How many guys, like let's say you've had interactions with a thousand random men over
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How do you think it would go for you if you had interactions with a thousand random bears
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So like you're picking the bear because you don't have experience with bears and probably
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you grew up watching Disney movies where bears were cute and cuddly and they sang songs.
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So like the, the reason this question is important is because it just demonstrates all of the biases
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You know, Brian, you said something in a previous show that I really liked.
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You said that women say bear because it's social signaling.
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And I think it is social signaling, but again, most of the time, whenever women social signal
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And I don't know if that's, it's probably, it's unfounded, but, um, I don't know.
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I guess there should just be a push for more, um, moral men.
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I don't know how there could be, because I know there's a big issue with essay.
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Like a lot of people know people that have been essayed and it's just, it seems like it's
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So depends on the definition of essay, because there's a lot of women who think that when they
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they regret an encounter the next day, that that counts, uh, that a smack on the bum might
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Or when I was with this guy and I loved him, it wasn't essay.
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But now that I broke up with him and he's a jerk, now it is essay.
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The statistics are based on self report, which is really important.
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We're not going based off of cases with evidence.
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And it doesn't change my argument that the statistics of like, when you hear this one
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in three women have been essayed, that is based off of self report and the woman's perception
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And we just saw with the bear question that women's perceptions of reality are personalized
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and biased and filtered through a bunch of emotion and things like that.
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Well, I mean, so like 30% of your sample size, cause you asked how many of us, two, four,
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So you asked eight of us and three of them answered bear.
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So it's, it's, I, that's a bit of a generalization to say women say this, you could say that.
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Well, no, that it's pretty consistent with the statistics, right?
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Because if one out of every three women would say they've been essayed, then three out of
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the nine of us saying bear, you know, and I'm not saying that it does not counter your
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My whole point was just to say that it's not necessarily objective when women say these
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things, it's based off of a perception, emotional filters, and all these other things that if
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you ask a guy, they don't necessarily, they just don't view things that way.
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They don't do everything based off of pure, like emotional, personal experience, anecdote.
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They don't start sentences with, I feel like as often as women do.
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And this is why having men in leadership positions and stuff makes more sense.
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I think that's why it's more effective to communicate with women.
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Sorry, I won't go back to it, but that's, I understand that women are different.
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There's a six year age gap there because you are.
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You said, but looks like these young men are lacking their older women.
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Your most recent relationship was with a guy six years younger than me, which developed
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I ended, uh, the communication and devoted myself to like focusing on my faith, prayer,
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How soon into the 70 days did you know, like anything, no, uh, set self, like everything
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You said how soon into your 70 day singleness fast 40, uh, 32.
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So, so we kind of like started tilt your mic down a little bit, please.
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And, um, and I realized it, it works both ways technically.
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Um, and, and so, but I told him, I said, I'd have to wait.
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I said, you have to wait a month until I'm, until this fast is over.
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And so he was like, I guess I have something to look forward to.
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So, uh, he asked me out and I said, you have to wait a month.
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And so then he, I didn't let him text me or talk to me.
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We only saw each other at church or Bible study and that sort of thing.
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So you, did you actually go through with the waiting for.
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He had to wait until I was done with my fast to go on a date with me.
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So I would only, I said we could only see each other in group.
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So I was like, you can talk to me then, but we can't.
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No, he's literally, he's the most manly guy I've ever dated.
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The internalized feminism is overwhelming right now.
05:19:02.180
So like, I'm, I'm like, clearly you, like, we both have the same goal.
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And so he saw enough value in me after getting to know me for 18 months in a totally non-romantic context that we're, he was like, it's, it's worth it to wait.
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I think that takes, I think that's incredibly admirable.
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Um, I think personality differences, you didn't find him attractive, huh?
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Why did he say like, yeah, what was his reason?
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I, I, but he, he's quoted personality differences.
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What prompted you to go on a 70 day singleness fast?
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I'm assuming there was some sort of dating related thing that must have precipitated that.
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Well, the Holy Spirit, um, as Andrew would say, the Holy Spirit, amen.
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So I, shortly after returning from California in October, I went on a date with a guy who
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was, um, a few years older than me and he lived in Miami and he was really great, like
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successful and, um, handsome and good charisma and all this stuff.
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Um, and so he basically offered to, um, he wanted to hang out with me more.
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So, so, so we hung out while he was in DC and then he went back to Miami.
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And so he was like, can I fly you out to Miami?
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He likes, uh, white Christian women apparently.
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So I, I was like convicted because I was like, uh, if I have friends in Miami.
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So I was like, okay, I can stay at their houses and stuff.
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But if I go, what if I, um, cross boundaries and I don't want to do that.
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And so I knew I was putting myself in a potentially like tempting situation that could compromise
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And so I was praying and I was like, Lord, I just need you to intervene.
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Um, because I'm going to go, which is not the right spirit.
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But, um, I did it and I was just like, Lord, I surrender this to you.
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I get, he, you know, like he had an Uber pick me up.
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And he's been texting me the whole time, how excited he is.
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And then literally one minute into hanging out, he just like looks at me and his whole face
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And he just like, I, the best way I can describe it, like the look of just total disgust and
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And I don't know what it was, but it was like, he just hated me.
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And he was like, he started saying things like, I can't believe I invited a stranger
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And I was just like, you invite, I was like, I have text messages.
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He, he, he's, he's just like, we can't, he's like, we're not, we can't go out.
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So I literally like couldn't leave the apartment cause it was so flooded.
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And so it was, I was, I was just like staying in this apartment with this guy trying to make
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him feel better because he was so like, Hmm, this is so bad.
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We'd already met in DC and hung out and everything.
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I think cause I prayed and I was like, Lord, I need help.
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Like I need you to help me to not somehow cross these boundaries.
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Even though I'm putting myself in a totally tempting situation where like, I'm obviously
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And I literally show up at this guy's apartment and he is just, he hates me.
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And he was texting me for like two weeks leading up to the trip being like, I can't
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Like he, and, and you know, like we, this doesn't, I'm sorry.
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Like, so you stepped through the door instantly.
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And he's like, and we kind of like walk into his place.
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He goes and sits on his couch and I'm, I'm like, no, he goes, do you need anything?
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And I said, I need to find my wallet because I realized that in the Uber that I couldn't,
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So I started like, kind of like, I opened my suitcase and I'm like, I grabbed my wallet
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And then, and then I brought this game, which was like called, it was a little card game.
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And it's like a card game with like cute little fun, like sassy questions.
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And so I sit, like, I find the wallet, I find the cards.
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And so like, I go and I sit next to him on the couch and you know, he like has his arm
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around me and is, and like, is all like obviously interested.
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And then I was like, well, wait, first let's play this little game.
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Cause I was nervous and I didn't, you know, and so we start playing the card game and then
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he's like, oh my gosh, you're going to fall in love with me.
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I had a text message from him where he said, like, as soon as I got back to DC, he literally
05:25:18.180
He was like, I should, I like, I know I was really mean.
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It was basically like, Hey, like I, you know, I'm honestly like, I hope you got back.
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I'm, I'm really, cause he had been, he was like, did you get home?
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I just want to say like, you know, I know I was kind of in a funk while you were here
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And he was just like, I hope like you're good and, and all that.
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So it was just literally like something came over him.
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I don't think he, like, I don't think he was bipolar.
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Well, like we had made out and we had, we had cuddled, but that was it.
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No, we slept in the same bed, which was so uncomfortable.
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I was like, like we were just, and he was, he was, did this in that.
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And he was just like, I can't believe I let it.
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I mean, sometimes it's best to just kind of go your own way.
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So that at that, well, that was that first night.
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So then I'd go and I call up my friend and I'm trying to like, see her.
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And so basically I ended up, I changed my flight so that I could leave out the next day.
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Um, I have a question and I don't, I honestly don't mean to be mean, but you're a very chatty
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Like, did you come in the house and just go, I definitely was nervous.
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So I probably was bubbly, but he had this as a chatty person myself.
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Cause on a, for on the first date, I was also a little nervous.
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So, so a bit, a bit that made me realize that someone that would actually tolerate
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the way that he treated me, I must like have a lot of like self loathing.
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And I was like, I need to figure out this like self loathing.
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Cause only like a, someone that doesn't care about themselves would, would allow that.
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Cause otherwise they'd just be like, Hey, screw you.
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And so then I went to, um, this retreat and then I had a like encounter with Jesus and
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he, we like went back and he healed me of three core memories.
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That's what precipitated your 70 days, sing singleness fast.
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And then you dated a guy who is six years, your junior.
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Which is interesting because you've been on the show before almost a year ago.
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And you, you provided, no, I think it's longer than that.
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And you said that, why do men seek to date and marry girls way younger than them?
05:28:47.180
It's like proven that after a girl sleeps with five guys, their chance at a happy marriage
05:28:53.180
So you want to know the best, the best line of when I dated this, this guy, I told,
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I tell her and she's like, good, get them while they're young.
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So I guess she would, I thought that was funny because she's like a mom and she was anyways.
05:29:08.180
He was, he's been like the, my favorite guy that I've dated.
05:29:13.180
Here, let's do the bumble segment to get everybody involved in the conversation.
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Uh, age range of guy you'd like to date into the mic, please.
05:29:28.180
Um, I'd say minimum, uh, I prefer someone that's like my age or I'd say max would be
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We're going to pull up some, uh, male profiles on bumble.
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Yeah, you get a bonus 10 if you say no to everybody.
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Do I have to like say yes to one eventually for it to end?
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One of them did kind of actually look like my boyfriend.
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And this is just to match with them or to go on a date?
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That was, what, five, six? That was a decent amount. Anyone keeping track? I don't know.
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Like, yes, but no, because he's in the military.
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You guys, twitch.tv slash whatever drops a follow drops a prime sub.
05:37:51.600
I, like, I guess, um, 20 to 30, but I'm going to say no to everyone.
05:38:59.280
That was the, I think that's the most we've ever had someone say yes to.
05:39:10.800
I couldn't even see what half of them looked like.
05:39:14.780
There were some good looking dudes that you passed on.
05:39:19.700
Just, I mean, it was like, not, not like in that way, you guys, but.
05:39:22.620
Well, no, I know, but they, like, they sort of have, like, features that he has, so that's
05:39:28.060
I mean, you did say three, so I mean, that's better than.
05:39:30.420
I feel bad for all the men out there on dating apps.
05:39:37.940
I think it's also different when you're on camera.
05:39:39.780
Got average girl rejecting, like, seven, eight, and nine, ten, like, seven, eight dudes.
05:39:44.900
So, anyways, back to Julia here for a little bit, and then we're gonna, oh, I've totally
05:39:51.780
Guys, we lowered the, if you want, we lowered the TTS to 69 if you want to get a TTS in.
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Streaming quality is better over there on Twitch, and Madison's gonna be doing gaming streams.
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05:40:21.520
You wanted to, I mixed up your notes from last time, this time, but you wanted to talk
05:40:28.800
about, if guys want girls to be virtuous, then they need to hold themselves to the same
05:40:40.640
But, I'm more focused on the beginning part, so if guys want girls to be virtuous, then
05:40:44.480
they need to hold themselves to the same standard.
05:40:52.580
I think that in terms of something like celibacy, especially in today's day and age, there's
05:41:05.960
So, like, obviously for me, it's because of my faith, and so I'm going to want my, the
05:41:15.080
men that I'm dating to have that same focus, because it doesn't work when you're, otherwise
05:41:33.440
These dusty, busted as bitches think they are a bunch of tens.
05:41:39.240
There's a guy named Abdul that would play this game with you.
05:41:49.740
Well, so, there's the micro level on the individual level, but I think you're talking a bit more
05:41:56.660
But it occurs to me that it's not like an equal one-to-one proportion of, like, so you
05:42:03.980
I would argue that there's more women engaging in promiscuity than there are men.
05:42:08.680
What I think is happening is you'll have, for example, there'll be, like, say, the top
05:42:15.640
And those guys will have, say, body counts of, I don't know, over 100.
05:42:21.700
And then you'll have a larger proportion of women that have, for example, 30, 40, 50 body
05:42:29.100
These aren't exact numbers, but just to articulate a point.
05:42:32.160
And then you'll have a huge subset of men that have zero access or minimal access to hookup
05:42:39.760
Typically, these men are not going to be able to get sex outside of, perhaps, the very rare
05:42:46.360
Or it's going to have to be through a relationship.
05:42:49.420
But almost any woman, if she was so inclined, could be a slut.
05:42:57.380
And so if it's, say, 50% of women that are engaging in this promiscuity and it's 10% of
05:43:04.900
men that are enabling it, wouldn't the blame be on the larger cohort of people that is sort
05:43:34.720
I'm just talking more so about there's this, like, men are promiscuous, women are promiscuous.
05:43:40.460
But it seems like it's a small portion of men that have that level of sexual access.
05:43:49.480
So if it's 10% of men and 50% of women, it seems like the onus is a little bit more on
05:43:57.820
Like, there's more women who are participating in this than there are men.
05:44:01.360
The problem is, like, with the experiment that we just did with the dating apps, is that
05:44:12.940
Like, even as a Christian woman, and Julie's a Christian woman, we still, as Christian women,
05:44:19.080
do not tend to be attracted to the men who are virgins.
05:44:23.620
Because the men who are virgins tend to be involuntarily virgins, right?
05:44:30.180
And the reason is because we look at men who are sexually successful with other women,
05:44:35.140
and we see that they have value because other women want them.
05:44:43.780
Didn't you say your dating range was, like, 30 to 40-something?
05:44:47.480
Yeah, although, obviously, I'm willing to play outside the playground.
05:44:50.200
But, like, so you're probably not going to find a guy in his 30s or 40s who's a virgin,
05:45:00.600
If you're scared of SA, why are you doing OnlyFans?
05:45:03.980
Wouldn't you be more likely to be SA by men that pay for a body?
05:45:19.040
I do OnlyFans because it's safe and it's from your house and it's in the protection of your own space.
05:45:27.180
Actually, I did a little study on OnlyFans and I found that there's actually a pretty high rate of men
05:45:34.380
who will track down women who do OnlyFans and find them and stalk them and, yeah.
05:45:43.440
So, like, you think this is behind a paywall, but it gets leaked a lot.
05:45:50.100
Big Brain Brian doing the Lord's work having Rachel flex on these ignorant feminazis.
05:45:55.880
I especially enjoyed her destroying the fake Christian redshirt lady who's eternally angry because of her.
05:46:05.080
I don't see anything that I said that would make you...
05:46:07.640
Unless you're like, oh, she's Protestant, so that's not real.
05:46:22.020
You said that you disagree with Brian regarding his views on marriage, body count, premarital sex.
05:46:54.760
I'd call it, like, we're surviving, but, you know, the way that I would like...
05:47:05.380
He needs to put his blank down or society crumbles.
05:47:13.080
Women are bigger sleuths than virtually any males.
05:47:24.160
It does occur to me that one of the problems going on is because we have this sort of very
05:47:29.300
kind of, well, especially with dating apps, women have access to men that they previously
05:47:38.860
I mean, there's, look, still, before even dating apps and social media, you could go to
05:47:43.780
a bar or a nightclub, but now it makes it extremely convenient and also extremely, oh,
05:47:54.460
What's the term for keeping something kind of private?
05:48:00.440
So you could, like, match with somebody on the dating app, go to their place, they go
05:48:08.820
So, I mean, there's a lot of discretion here, which is kind of to the benefit of people who
05:48:13.140
are desirous of engaging in promiscuity, but I think what ends up happening is we all
05:48:21.700
We all want the most attractive person, physically attractive.
05:48:28.760
However, what other ways that attractiveness can manifest itself?
05:48:39.680
I think the big difference is, and I've talked about this ad nauseum, is that men get rejected
05:48:49.000
So, a guy will, what will end up happening, for example, if I were to step to a woman
05:48:58.020
who is just, let's just, if we look at it objectively, who's just, she's just more attractive
05:49:06.700
If I step to a girl who's more physically attractive than I am, I'm getting an instant
05:49:16.760
I don't even get a date with a girl who's like out of my league.
05:49:21.480
Certainly won't even get any sort of sexual access or romantic access.
05:49:27.120
She wouldn't want to pursue me for short-term sex or long-term romantic relationship.
05:49:36.120
Men will sleep with a woman who they would just, on the basis of her physical attractiveness,
05:49:47.820
It's not like if I step to a girl who's like a nine, who's just objectively more attractive
05:49:53.040
than I am, and she might have more standards than just purely physical looks, but, you know,
05:50:09.940
But if a girl who's like a six steps to a dude who's an eight or a nine, offering, like,
05:50:19.320
who's simping for the guy and is like, demonstrates a high degree of desire and interest and sexual
05:50:36.660
I disagree with the premise that women are never, that if you were to, like, any guy
05:50:44.180
is going to hit on a woman more attractive than him, it's instant rejection.
05:50:47.820
I see women dating down constantly and having sex down constantly, like, in my real life.
05:50:56.420
First, I think that men can offer things beyond just their physical appearance, so I can't
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speak to the specifics of the instances that you've seen.
05:51:07.580
Perhaps he's offering something when it comes to financially.
05:51:14.620
Women find a wide variety of things in terms of being an attraction trigger.
05:51:23.560
I know plenty of men who are attractive, high-status, doctors, lawyers, and well-adjusted that struggle
05:51:37.600
Women tend to have an over-inflated sense of their own physical attractiveness and the
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So your assessment of your friend who you think is dating a mid-guy.
05:51:54.500
Men tend to rate women on a bell curve in terms of physical attractiveness.
05:52:09.140
It's damaging all women and the social structure.
05:52:18.800
So what ends up happening is women are able to get sexual access to men who are just,
05:52:30.060
An average girl could get access to an NFL player, NBA player.
05:52:37.680
You could be a 19-year-old girl in college dating a rich guy locally.
05:52:41.260
He might be a little bit older, but she has sexual access to that guy.
05:52:46.240
And so it makes them look at the men in their league, and they're like...
05:52:53.780
But in actuality, that's the guy in your league.
05:52:57.760
Women's league is the men who will give you commitment and a relationship and marriage.
05:53:18.620
It kind of sounds like in this situation, though, I'm not sure that I really agree with what
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you're saying, but it sounds like if that's true, then the problem is with men.
05:53:27.340
No, the problem is that when the sexual revolution happened and everybody decided we're just going
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to fuck everybody instead of women deciding, okay, like this is...
05:53:38.260
My grandma's 98, and her mother taught her and her sister, look, you're going to have
05:53:43.320
the best chance for getting a husband between 18 and 24.
05:53:47.640
So, nail down the best guy that you can in those years and lock it down.
05:53:53.520
Except for me, because I had a glow up, and it was confirmed on this podcast.
05:53:59.920
But in general, it was like there wasn't this idea that they were going to fuck a bunch
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of hot chads that were never going to marry them, and then they were going to have to
05:54:11.360
So, like, back in the day, you only had to choose from your local circle of guys that
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were in your town or your area unless you had an arranged marriage or something like
05:54:25.240
Like, women who are a four or a five at the bar will, you know, some guy who's just biding
05:54:31.280
his time will take her home, and they think that's the guy that they should be with, and
05:54:36.700
they hold every other guy they're with to that standard that throws everything off.
05:54:40.300
Well, okay, well, then it sounds like these men should stop using mid-women for sex.
05:54:52.680
Well, then the men should stop fucking whoever they want to fuck.
05:54:55.220
Well, that's nice to say, but that's not going to happen.
05:54:56.020
But that's a small proportion of men compared to the behavior-
05:54:59.820
Compared to the behavior of a large swath of women.
05:55:02.240
Okay, but if this small group of attractive men stops fucking mid-women, it's not what
05:55:08.880
Men are supposed to be the leaders, these great leaders who are going to lead us into
05:55:11.380
this beautiful patriarchal utopia, and yet they're fucking fives and sixes.
05:55:15.340
No, there's not a patriarchal utopia, but let's think about this for a second.
05:55:22.120
If you're a dude who's one of these top 1%, and every woman you come across is spreading
05:55:28.220
her legs and begging for it, are you not going to, you know, on a slow day, go for it?
05:55:39.940
Okay, so you as a woman, whether you like it or not, the responsibility is on women.
05:56:01.220
I mean, jumping off that, yeah, it takes two people to have sex.
05:56:05.600
If there's a responsibility on women to stop batting out of their league, the men who are
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out of their league have a responsibility to turn them down.
05:56:14.380
Before birth control, before hormonal birth control and abortion, that's what women did.
05:56:22.060
We were very careful about who we let in the gate because the repercussions were really,
05:56:28.040
really important and extreme and you couldn't just go get a fetus deletus or whatever, right?
05:56:33.120
So, like, there was a, women were very serious about who they picked.
05:56:38.080
Like, if I interviewed my grandma on my channel about how she chose her husband and she said,
05:56:43.420
well, I thought about, like, you know, can he support me and a bunch of kids?
05:56:53.040
Now, if you ask a girl, like, these girls, right, they're like, whoever's going to plow me
05:56:57.800
hardest in the back of a car is who I'm going to go for.
05:57:02.500
I think you have a really pessimistic worldview.
05:57:07.720
None of the people I know in real life think that way.
05:57:16.580
Literally, statistically, you girls are banging Chad.
05:57:22.920
It comes back down to having mutual respect for each other and everything else falls in place.
05:57:39.440
He would be genuinely upset if he saw me see a guy's picture and say yes.
05:57:52.240
I can be objective and say that, yeah, I can look at someone else and find him attractive.
05:58:00.400
It's not like none of those men fit my physical standard.
05:58:03.200
I know you're trying to be respectful to your boyfriend, but, like, the whole point of it was, like, if you were single.
05:58:28.400
And then she was the only one who was kind of reasonable at 10 out of 20.
05:58:32.580
So, of the girls who did one or two, so two of 20, that would mean, like, 10%.
05:58:43.200
So, that means they find only 5% of the men attractive.
05:58:49.120
In order for, if you only find 10% of the men attractive, essentially what you're saying is, I'm a 9.
05:58:55.720
If only 10% of men are attractive, you're basically saying, I'm a 9.
05:59:09.660
I'm telling you that real people that I interact with in real life, and no one, I literally, no one I know thinks this way.
05:59:20.900
I've seen my friends meet incredibly big men online.
05:59:23.320
If you ask most women, most of them say, yeah, like, I only find 10% of the men on dating apps attractive.
05:59:35.040
Most women will say, I find most men unattractive.
05:59:41.100
I think it's something like 95% of the women, like, all choose the 1% of the men.
05:59:47.780
Well, and let's just cut the shit, too, because it's like, are you really going to sit here and tell me that you guys are, like, you guys are messing around with the dudes who are, like, fives or sixes?
06:00:00.020
Well, you know, I should normalize meeting in person rather than on apps.
06:00:04.520
So when it comes to relationships, that's when women will settle a little bit.
06:00:15.760
At 60 years old is now ready to settle down with a nice guy at 60.
06:00:20.760
After you've already been ran through for your entire life.
06:00:33.860
And also, men don't expire as fast as females do.
06:00:44.660
There's a bit of a difference when it comes to peak and whatever, but hold on.
06:00:51.740
Oh, the differential is, is that, for example, for a woman to consider for having a one-night
06:01:04.000
Like, for example, she will, how do I frame this?
06:01:11.520
Since the dawn of time, men will fuck anything they can.
06:01:20.740
Take accountability for who you let in, you're the hard day.
06:01:25.180
Yeah, we just talked about how genetic studies reveal that 80% of women who've ever made
06:01:30.460
it to reproductive age have been able to have kids, and only 40% of men have.
06:01:39.060
Women swipe right approximately on 2% of men for Tinder and Hinge statistics.
06:01:48.880
There's definitely been a lot of data out there.
06:01:50.860
Just really quick, though, when it comes to, like, more casual sex.
06:01:54.400
So women, if they're otherwise looking for a relationship, they will break their rule if
06:02:03.360
So, okay, normally I wouldn't do this, but he's really fucking hot.
06:02:09.200
Whereas men, it's typically the opposite direction.
06:02:13.280
They're not holding out, I'll only have a one-night stand if she's super fucking hot.
06:02:18.100
No, it's like, I'll have a one-night stand when the opportunity presents itself.
06:02:22.060
It's also, like, the false sense of, like, ego, too.
06:02:25.220
Like, you know, like, women, like, perceive themselves so highly, so they're like,
06:02:28.320
oh, like, I'll do it for this one really attractive guy, because he'll definitely date me.
06:02:35.720
It's not even about being hyper-attractive conventionally.
06:02:54.620
So, as guys, if we can sleep with a girl, we can probably get that girl in a relationship.
06:03:00.880
It's not clear to me, as women, just because you can sleep with a guy does not necessarily mean you can get him into a relationship.
06:03:10.960
If you can get him in a relationship, you can probably sleep with him.
06:03:14.920
So, you said for men, it's that if they can get a girl in a relationship, they can probably sleep with her.
06:03:24.060
There's a good chance we can get her in a relationship.
06:03:25.940
Right, so for a girl, if she can get him in a relationship, she can probably sleep with him.
06:03:34.020
Like, lots of people don't have sex in relationships.
06:03:37.460
Wait, if she can get him into a relationship...
06:03:42.560
But no, but not if he's saving himself from marriage.
06:03:45.000
We have had girls that are 300 pounds sit on that side of the table and tell us about how they did 20 dudes in like a week or something.
06:03:59.240
I don't know why you would have sex with, like, a really obese person.
06:04:02.000
Because all of the, like, really undesirable people have...
06:04:05.780
Some of the really undesirable guys, that's all they're getting.
06:04:28.860
When I was younger and a rugby player built like a brick SH1 teahouse and woman would throw themselves at me.
06:04:38.320
Now 47 and earning SH1 clothes, but way more picky.
06:04:53.580
Is there a discount for the Crucible crew to mute the lazy-eyed fake Christian in the red shirt?
06:05:09.180
Wait, is there a discount for the Crucible crew to mute the lazy-eyed fake Christian in the red shirt?
06:05:18.120
I'm sleeping with four women currently, and two of them have actively asked for a relationship with me in the past month.
06:05:35.140
I think it is true that women can sleep with men who are more attractive out of their league that they couldn't necessarily get to date them.
06:05:45.080
What I'm saying is I don't see how that fact relieves men of the responsibility in this situation.
06:05:50.140
I mean, I'm not saying women don't have any responsibility to stop doing it, but I think that...
06:05:59.320
They're saying there's no responsibility on men to not sleep with, you know, women below their lead.
06:06:06.900
Okay, but women never take accountability for their actions.
06:06:09.420
If they're not Christian men, why would they give a shit?
06:06:12.400
Like, honestly, if they're not Christian, why would they care?
06:06:21.680
So, from, like, a secular worldview, why not spread your seed for a lot?
06:06:27.520
Ancient Greece and Rome had harsh penalties for homemakers, plus had modern equivalents to birth control, as well as adulterers, the men.
06:06:48.460
I'm just saying, it sounds like from your perspective, men are only hurting themselves by doing this.
06:06:52.440
So, if men are really just uncontrollable animals that can't stop their urges, it brings me back to this whole.
06:06:57.980
You're talking about men like they're a monolith.
06:07:00.300
You're talking about women like they're a monolith.
06:07:03.860
I've been trying to tell you, women don't really have a hierarchy.
06:07:08.900
So, there's always, like, these top alpha guys that are miles ahead of everybody else, and there's a large proportion at the bottom.
06:07:16.060
So, you can't just throw men together and say, why do men do this?
06:07:19.300
Well, the top guys are going to do what they can and do what they want.
06:07:24.140
And nobody, who's going to do anything about it?
06:07:26.440
In terms of women competing for men, that's just crazy.
06:07:29.140
There is absolutely, there is a hierarchy of women competing for men.
06:07:32.880
Yeah, I said there, the only hierarchy females have is our competition for the best man.
06:07:42.960
The male hierarchy is this alpha competition, similar to wolves, similar to apes, where men compete to be at the top.
06:07:53.000
The top of the hierarchy, the power, that's a little circular, I feel.
06:08:04.320
So, like, who gets to the top of the power structure?
06:08:26.480
How does a male get to be the head of the gang?
06:08:32.820
He's, you know, the one who has beaten out all the other men to be on top.
06:08:44.840
Oh, was it the same gang that, with the capital, that they charged the capital?
06:08:52.340
Anyways, guys, we're going to do a brief, the TTS has been lowered to 25, brief chaos roast
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Wait, did you say your last name when you introduced yourself, or?
06:09:36.880
Hey, girl in the Let's Dance shirt with a thousand yards there, you are a perfect example
06:09:45.600
You spent thousands of dollars to become dumber.
06:09:53.500
We are replacing men with gov, and it's evident in voting.
06:10:05.680
This country was founded on limited governed women are destroying it.
06:10:17.300
I'm a seven, but I sleep with the twos and threes that the real top 1% men ignore.
06:10:47.620
I'd consider, I don't know, whatever anyone thinks.
06:11:10.800
Brian, I thought you didn't allow guys on the podcast.
06:11:28.700
The men who are able to sleep with the most women.
06:11:31.180
They are the ones sleeping around, not the average guy.
06:11:42.440
Brian, the girl in the red sweater looks like the villain bomb Voyage from that movie The Incredibles with that big fucking chin.
06:11:59.800
Brian, let's please find a holy Bible for her to swear on to show she's truly a virgin.
06:12:13.000
Rachel Wilson, may all of your two children and three bastards die in your hands in terrible suffering.
06:12:22.380
You and Andrew are the most disgusting family I ever saw in my life.
06:12:31.480
From the Grand Inquisitor's Whatever Podcast Communication Liaison.
06:12:47.840
Nickelodeon donated $25 for the chicken communications.
06:12:52.360
I'll teach you the only thing you need to know.
06:13:24.240
To the strumpet telling Rachel to be more Christ-like.
06:13:28.020
Weak Christians try that shite all the time to shut down strong Christians.
06:13:33.080
Christ chased out the money changers with a whip.
06:13:45.680
The male hierarchy is like the Elks that battle for breeding rights.
06:14:03.420
High value men don't let fear women go on non-livans.
06:14:45.900
Shout out to that comedian that had to keep reminding us that she was telling jokes.
06:15:47.960
Trailer Swift won't pick a bumble date, but will bang lost Joe.
06:16:04.380
To the middle linebacker, Debra Stan, a charteo reppin' red.
06:16:13.920
Politely arguing the exceptions will really work to move society forward.
06:16:21.980
Let's Dance Shirt Girl is disingenuous, obviously manipulating language against anyone not aligned
06:16:29.220
with her beliefs, so she thinks she's always right.
06:16:32.400
She's an extreme tribalist and cultural Marxist.
06:16:35.760
There is a three-minute delay at this point, guys, on the messages you sent in.
06:16:40.500
I said loads and judged loads, but I do appreciate you all stepping up and discussing these issues
06:16:56.860
Rachel was in a gangbang with her four baby daddies.
06:17:01.040
I bet you and that Pillsburrito boy stand in front of a mirror and compare each other to
06:17:17.100
A Gen Z-led Zeppelin tribute band singing their greatest hits with Nassalee inflection.
06:17:30.100
The previous show, Rachel, do you do blowjobs to your husband?
06:17:35.080
Rachel, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck,
06:17:39.020
gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck, gluck.
06:17:49.320
Seven, six, six, six, six, nine, six, ten, seven, six.
06:18:04.980
Led Zeppelin t-shirt girl is a baddie for sure.
06:18:10.400
To the tattooed girl, I wish my lawn was an emo like you and cut itself.
06:18:19.220
Chick in the red shirt is what men have to look forward to when they say look in the church.
06:18:24.860
No wonder why men are running to a throdoxy for foundation.
06:18:35.000
Rachel Wilson was flipped more than an apartment in Fort Lauderdale,
06:18:54.360
Wish you heard more from Penelope Cruz's daughter and Marion Manson's daughter did good.
06:19:11.500
He was more loyal and reliable than the girls on the panel minus Mrs. Wilson.
06:19:26.200
You helping guys with your OF is like a meth dealer saying they are helping their customers.
06:19:33.520
If you legitimately didn't know, now you do quit OF.
06:19:46.360
My wife raised me to a higher moral standard and I'm happier because of it.
06:20:22.520
Brian, why didn't you address the Quasimodo and Chief Bevo drama?
06:20:28.120
Led Zeppelin, I've got more cough drops for you if needed.
06:20:41.140
Riley, you are nothing more than the hot version of just grifty things.
06:20:48.320
My only criticism is that you didn't talk shit about the, you know?
06:20:56.920
Rachel Jennings, you claim women shouldn't have bank accounts.
06:21:00.540
Then why you're receiving the money from subscriptions of your husband's website,
06:21:09.080
We have joint, the only bank accounts we have are joint, so.
06:21:19.440
You let Andrew throw me away like Daisy threw away fresh baby.
06:21:30.700
Mate, not sure if you're lucky or in the hot pot, but a single man surrounded by beautiful
06:21:38.880
I did enjoy this, but I found myself frustrated, just like that dream.
06:21:45.940
Andrew reminds me of Kevin O'Leary fakes being a asshole to bring in more views.
06:21:55.320
No, he just, he's an asshole to people who deserve it.
06:22:03.820
I missed the entire stream, but I love your face.
06:22:22.560
But, uh, killer of cereal, where you been, dude?
06:22:33.960
Because every time you talk, it sounds like I'm getting a response from a smart speaker.
06:22:38.980
So many canned responses, it's hard believe you're not a grifter.
06:23:39.880
Riley, has anyone ever told you you look like Katie Cush?
06:23:57.900
The one and only reason historically men have reproduced less than women is because men have
06:24:02.520
died young in the wars before even get a chance to reproduce.
06:24:22.980
I wanna thank Wes Watson for being my biggest fan and the biggest donator to the show, though.
06:24:37.520
Listening to Riley lie about being a virgin or other blondes stumble through arguments
06:24:42.180
like she still has a concussion from when Andrew backhanded after her last debate.
06:24:55.180
Thanks to you, no one can afford a house, groceries, gas, or anything else.
06:25:00.260
America deserves an apology from dum-dums like you.
06:25:12.580
Only girl that deserves a compliment is Celeste.
06:25:16.260
Only girl that deserves a compliment is Celeste.
06:25:28.440
Can't believe people are simping over Down syndrome Jennifer Gunner.
06:25:35.200
Can't believe people are simping over Down syndrome Jennifer Gunner.
06:25:46.060
I'll take the Jennifer Gunner side of it, yeah.
06:25:58.420
It does all the, if you want the TTS to trigger, it can't be through YouTube.
06:26:18.760
You didn't say nothing about my actual statement.
06:26:26.540
Brian, I've been exploring the last known frontier in search of that bear in the forest.
06:26:32.180
I guess me and the others I was with would be the men.
06:26:34.980
Would you rather run into a bear or tour group in woods?
06:26:51.480
I'm trying to think of something related to the men or the bear thing.
06:27:01.760
Raven hair, men don't want to assume duty because they're getting free sex.
06:27:06.740
Some, but others don't want to assume duty because women are giving free sex.
06:27:19.020
Mediocre body with a cute face versus hot body with a may face.
06:27:44.380
Plus, like, you know, that'll be your genetic legacy, too.
06:27:49.520
Like, you know, the kids might not turn out, you know, that way.
06:28:05.520
Do you want us to hire her as second helmet girl?
06:28:25.700
There's nothing cool about jeopardizing future marriages for short-term selfish fun.
06:28:52.220
Red Dress, here's your compliment more of a tip.
06:28:55.540
Christians don't get flown out for a blown out do better.
06:29:12.920
What I meant was, would you rather run into a tour group made up of bears or a single man with a freshly decapitated bear head on as a helmet?
06:29:30.560
I get shit on by how many times I get told you get the agitated $250 plus probably £400 patient.
06:29:40.280
At least I know who doesn't bow, but will suck my dick.
06:29:50.400
Would you like to date a man who owns an HVAC company in Nevada?
06:30:05.140
For dance shirt girl that was talking gender theory, can that be applied to animals?
06:30:10.400
Why is it difficult for your people to not know who a woman is, but can tell if a dog is a male or female easily?
06:30:27.060
I'm into men, so she gives me that masculine vibe, and I could try it, but her comments were annoying.
06:30:40.200
Wes Watson seems like he's really familiar with gargling nuts.
06:31:05.240
So, it's a World War I military helmet, so World War II was like the bad Germans or whatever.
06:31:13.640
We're not getting you into trouble or anything.
06:32:30.180
Should I start rocking the fucking backwards hat, boys?
06:32:35.980
Brian's entering his F-boy era with the backwards hat.
06:32:46.040
Yeah, I was going to say, that's sort of old-fashioned.
06:32:54.920
I think we're going to, I'll try to get through the wrap-up here.
06:32:57.200
Probably a few more will trickle in, but let's see here.
06:33:00.260
I'm going to talk about the Bevo drama really quick.
06:33:07.760
Before I get into it, I want to thank the entire panel.
06:33:10.000
You guys were honestly one of the best panels we've had in a really long time.
06:33:13.920
I know there were disagreements and heated moments, but I thought it was a fantastic panel.
06:33:22.420
I had a green card for the USA IT, but so Fuert King glad I did not make it there.
06:33:33.860
These girls are picky on dating apps because most men are unattractive, including you, Brian, you fat ass.
06:33:41.620
Yeah, I got to, I got to, you know, lose a bit of weight, you know.
06:33:46.160
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06:34:18.580
He made a video because he got, I mean, he didn't have a great performance on the show.
06:34:23.540
Apparently, I don't know the whole details of it.
06:34:30.600
He made a video trying to do damage control and in an egregious, malicious.
06:34:37.600
Brian, Hitler did fight in World War II, so technically it is his helmet done.
06:34:43.260
I think she's the hottest girl you've had on the show.
06:34:53.860
Hottest girl we've had on the show, according to him.
06:35:16.040
I just, guys, before I get into the Bevo shit, Bevo, challenge you to a boxing fight.
06:35:53.160
Um, I'm sitting next to you and you're not fat.
06:36:08.080
So, he made this video, attempts to throw me under the bus by falsely accusing me of staging
06:36:19.560
Majuna, this reminds me of a magic trick I know when I was a nine priest, asked me if
06:36:27.600
He showed me jazz hands and said, that's magic.
06:36:34.400
New helmet girl is the most attractive girl on the show.
06:36:49.660
Falsely accuses me of staging the whole him being a cuck thing.
06:36:57.320
We had his girlfriend on the schedule, but he shows up anyways.
06:37:01.060
On the reel, though, I've been following this podcast for the past one plus years since
06:37:36.840
I got a degree that would be better if males nominated the field.
06:37:45.360
I'm going to pause it for three minutes just so I can get through the thing.
06:37:47.840
If you have any come through, they'll come through as soon as I'm done with this.
06:37:54.860
His girlfriend was scheduled to be on the show, but he shows up anyways.
06:37:58.360
And we specifically tell people, like, hey, we don't let people behind the scenes or anything like that.
06:38:03.480
Uh, after she asked multiple times if he could come on, like, we had one no-show or something.
06:38:11.340
And so, we finally accommodated it and agreed to let him on.
06:38:14.240
We have security cameras throughout the entire studio.
06:38:17.500
He claims that I went up to him and had a conversation and was like, yo, you should pretend to be a cuck.
06:38:24.320
At no point, and we have security camera proof.
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I don't know if I'm going to, I'm not going to distribute this tonight, but if he pushes it, I'll distribute it.
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But at no point do I ever even have a conversation with him before the show.
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Did I have a conversation with any of you before the show?
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I'm getting cameras ready, getting the stream ready.
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Also, in addition to that, we have multiple witnesses from that show who can attest that I had no private conversation with Bevo before the show.
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As he was leaving, he admits he was trolling us, as in the show.
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It occurs to me that if I put him up to it, he would have said that I was somehow in on it, which he never said.
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After the show, he begs us to put his Instagram in the description, which I refuse because his girl tried to get us on some TOS shit by playing with her titties,
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even though we specifically told her not to, and that he came on to troll and waste our time.
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Furthermore, I had Instagram messages with him.
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He deleted all the messages that he sent me, where he apologized for trolling us, because I refuse to include his IG in the description,
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and that he said he intentionally did it for content, because that's what they do in the UK.
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By the way, he deleted all his DMs with me, so I can't show you proof that he was lying.
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Bevo, I hope that nobody ever falsely accuses you of something.
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You're a pathetic sloth for being a liar and falsely accusing someone.
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I don't care if you talk shit, but it really irks me when people lie.
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Don't falsely accuse somebody and lie, because it's really damaging when people lie and make false accusations.
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I hope nobody ever falsely accuses you of anything, but I don't know, man.
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So, anyways, that's pretty much it for the Bevo thing.
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I'm going to let these chats that came through.
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Sorry, guys, I had to pause it temporarily so I could get through it.
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A MAGA hat would look way better on the entire panel.
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Throwing a ball in your cereal here before close.
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A few more chats, then we're going to wrap up the show.
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If I'm too much of a coward to tell my girl to stop fucking other people...
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What makes you think I'm man enough to fight you?
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I've got a few Porsches if you want to upgrade from that Cadillac.
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The only thing Wes Watson knows for sure is what is Sally's spit what felt like her teen
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his back while faking orgasm, as Wes was bent over the crepitarchy knit, trading his vore
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Her neck is longer than my peen, and I like it.
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I'd love to make some risotto and enjoy a nice evening.
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Would you rather be in the forest with Simp or Bear?
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Brian is rocking that wow classic physique around all these stumpets with no FKs given.
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So that Brit's teeth looked like Jim Carrey's in the Mask movie.
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Bevo underscore the underscore cup donated $25.
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Unlike most of y'all, I'm okay with my woman taking dick from other men because I'm a truly secure, masculine man.
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I was also serious about the 100 plus body count.
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You all saw her eyes light up as soon as she saw that message.
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You Americans are silly sometimes, idiots, saying then Second Amendment can't be changed.
06:43:40.920
Brian, don't ever bring that neo-Nazi trash Lennardo back on your show.
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Tell her to keep her Nazi scum confined to an anime profile in the chat or she will get dealt with in Los Angeles.
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I would take you on but her boyfriend won't let me.
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He said he will bend me over and spank me if I do.
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There might be a few more that trickle in, but it's about that time.
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So we're going to do a Twitch raid, and then we have it set up.
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Cable and all other haters in the chat, I BET you all on illegal boxing matches to see if you will dare to talk to me like that in my face.
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The next super chats you send, give me your date, time and place.
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Wow, he's really owning you by sending all this money.
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The girl with glasses saying girls with tattoos look trashy.
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Well, the tattoo girl is so much more desirable than you.
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Do you guys want to debate that really quick, the tattoo thing?
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I've never seen a girl this attractive on the show before.
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A standing prison joke is, how do you tell if your celly fakes orgasm?
06:45:38.120
By the way, Nick, for Twitch, we'll do Whoa Grandma tonight.
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Now, it's like there's a fight between the TTSers.
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I don't want to disclose it, but I will say that it's over 50.
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Yeah, I mean, it's kind of hard to know what my, I don't really know what my body count
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By the way, I'm pausing the TTS for just a moment, guys.
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No, I mean, I was sex trafficked at, like, 18 and 19, so...
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So that's why I'm saying it's kind of hard to, like, dive into.
06:47:06.200
Wait, like, you were, uh, if you don't mind me asking, can you...
06:47:12.340
Uh, I was trafficked by older men that they would try to put me...
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Well, um, the last time I did, the last time was voluntary, but it was also a weird situation.
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I thought, um, I was going onto, like, Sexy Jobs' website to go into porn, but actually
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this guy who said he was a manager for, like, porn and stuff wasn't actually a manager and
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stuff, but that one, I would say, was more voluntarily, because I knew I was getting myself into.
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The other times, it was not involuntarily, it was by, not, not by choice.
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Do you want to do range, if you don't want to give exact range?
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I mean, we actually have known each other since we were 12, so...
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No, no, no, I won't even, no, no, no, that like scares me for real.
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I'm also a married lady, so I don't disclose my body, yeah.
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So we're going to do a quick raid, then we're going to wrap up the show.
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Those of you watching on Twitch, very much appreciate it.
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Oh my, guys, it's been 33 minutes since the last Prime.
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I'll just shout out a couple of you just here at the end.
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Okay, DaBaby Wolf, thank you for the Primes, guys.
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Oh, Esgerd, thank you for helping us test this out.
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Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out.
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Because of that, I got my handgun carry permit at 18-year-old.
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To the White African, the Second Amendment is what has kept the U.S. from descending into total tyranny.
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Yes, we're on the brink, thanks to woke lefties fucking up the world.
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The Let's Dance chick is your typical feminist NPC bot.
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Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out.
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Could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
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Thank you to everyone who superchats, donates, and supports the show.
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Couldn't do the show without your guys' support and patronage.
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We will be live again Sunday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
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Be on the lookout for that in these next coming shows.
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Any girls who want to be on the show, DM, at whatever on Instagram.
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You and Andrew are the most fake wannabe pretending Christians I ever saw in my entire
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Hiding behind I'm a man of God shows her insecurity as a virgin.
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My fart box is mega loose from getting my cheeks ran so much.
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I want to really meet up because I'm desperately seeking a zaddy.
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I do try to raid smaller streamers after the show.
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I'm going to send the raid over in just a moment.
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But guys, tell her we got to get her on the podcast.
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So guys, I'm going to send a chat in just a sec.
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Oh, she's checking out some amount or something.
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And she is playing World of Warcraft retail, the retail version of the game.
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And then we are going to raid Andrew Wilson, those of you who are watching on YouTube.
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Make sure it is going to send over to Andrew's stream here, guys.
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We'll see you again on Sunday with another Dating Talk.