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00:03:21.160 Go ahead. Hi, guys. I'm Jess Peachy. I'm 25. I currently live in Las Vegas, Nevada, and I'm

00:03:28.020 a full-time content creator, streamer, and I do OnlyFans. All right. Welcome. And the

00:03:35.240 tattoos. You got a couple cool tattoos. Yeah. I've got, you know, the OG3, Squirtle, Bulbasaur,

00:03:44.200 Charmander. And then you've got a Warcraft. I do. I get a lot of heat for this because I

00:03:50.520 have Alliance and Horn. I played both. We all played both. Are you a classic Andy or you play

00:03:55.740 Retail? I never got into it with classic. I think I started around, like, Lich King,

00:04:02.120 Cataclysm. Okay. And then the upper chest, what is that? What does it read? It says

00:04:10.100 presque vous. It's French. It means almost seen. Presque vous. Presque vous, yeah. Almost

00:04:16.960 seen. Almost seen. What's the meaning there? It's like on a deeper level when you're about

00:04:22.140 to realize something, like, really big, this, like, epiphany. And just as you're wrapping

00:04:26.800 up the thought, you lose it and you forget it. Almost. Wait, and so that's what that means

00:04:33.140 or that's the explanation behind the tattoo? That's the explanation. Okay. Well, it's the

00:04:37.100 definition. It's what it... I mean, does it have any practical meaning for you, though?

00:04:40.960 I got that feeling a lot when I got the tattoo. Like, you have an idea and then you just forget

00:04:46.840 it? Like, just... How do you say Alzheimer's in French? You should have just got that put

00:04:51.880 on your chest. Alzheimer's, yeah. Isn't that the same thing, right? You come up with an

00:04:55.560 idea, but then you forget that shit? It was sharp. Yeah. We're going to... Okay. All right.

00:05:00.640 Okay. Cool. Cool. What about you? Hi. My name is Isis. I'm from New York. I... What's

00:05:08.860 another thing I need to answer? I'm 27. I do TikTok. My username is Isis Hong. I-S-I-S-H-O-N-G.

00:05:16.440 I'm also a software engineer. Yeah. Software engineer. Okay. So you got a degree in computer

00:05:22.980 science? I got a degree in biochemistry and computer science. I did, too. And then are

00:05:27.000 you also... You're also a ballerina. Is that correct? Yeah. I do dance. Okay. But I wouldn't

00:05:31.420 call myself a ballerina because they put so many years of actual hard work into that. Yeah.

00:05:35.740 Okay. So are you going to, like, show us a plie or... I can do a split, but I don't

00:05:41.000 think... You can't do plie? What about a pirouette? It's just, like, when I'm nervous, I feel like

00:05:45.980 it's not good to do those. Okay. That's fair. And you said you're from New York City, right?

00:05:51.560 I'm originally from China. My parents are Korean, and I moved to Seattle when I was 15. Now

00:05:56.680 I live in New York. Yeah. Well, how did you end up in China? So my mom is North Korean.

00:06:02.880 And my dad is South Korean. They met in China because my grandparents came from North Korea

00:06:08.720 and South Korea. Okay. And I was born in China. That's why I was in China. Gotcha. And then

00:06:13.100 you said you're from China. You moved to the U.S., was it? Yeah, when I was 15. 15. So

00:06:17.920 you went to high school, and you moved straight to New York, or where were you? No, I didn't

00:06:21.220 go to high school. I went straight to college when I was 16, and I did five years of college.

00:06:26.120 That's why two degrees. Okay. Then I started working for five years in Seattle. Then I

00:06:31.500 moved to New York two years ago. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Okay, cool. Welcome. Yeah. What

00:06:36.160 about you? Hi, my name is Tamara, better known as the Dutch Jessica Rabbit. I'm from the Netherlands

00:06:41.260 for the people that do not know what the Netherlands is. Amsterdam, drugs, stuff like that. Hold

00:06:46.860 on. There's more to the Netherlands than Amsterdam. A lot of people do not know. I say I'm from

00:06:52.120 the Netherlands. They're like, what? And then I say, oh, Holland. They're like, what? And

00:06:55.720 then I say, Amsterdam. They're like, oh, you do drugs? And I'm like, no, but do you want

00:07:00.180 to buy some? You know, I'm very open. There you go. I'm 28. I'm an adult industry content

00:07:05.200 creator, and I'm also a student. I'm studying legal administration employer. Okay. I think

00:07:13.720 that's the name for it. Got it. And you're born in the Netherlands. Yes. Okay. Have

00:07:20.560 you said you were involved in the adult industry? Yes. I mean, Netherlands has a pretty robust

00:07:26.480 like escorting prostitution. Not like that. Have you been in the red light district at

00:07:32.940 all? Oh, no. We do. Oh, that's so weird. When you are going to school in the Netherlands where

00:07:38.320 you're very young, like 12, 13 years old, you have school trips. I don't know if that's

00:07:42.140 a thing here, school trips. They take you to the red light district just to watch and see

00:07:46.780 it. Like, oh my God, this culture, just for fun. Wait, so at how old? Like young. It's

00:07:52.980 not like, here, you're going to work here or something. No, it's just like. Is it cautionary?

00:07:57.780 No. I have to, the Netherlands are very like open-minded people. We do, we are roasting

00:08:06.700 people just for fun. We do not have that kind of feeling. So I'm like, oh my God, that's

00:08:11.060 offensive. We do not have that. We will just like roast you. But they like take kids to the

00:08:15.100 red light district. No, they will see it, right? They will see it on the television

00:08:18.020 and stuff. So we're just like, we're going to Amsterdam. It's a part of Amsterdam. We're

00:08:23.060 going to walk through it, laugh at that people, and then they get out, get an ice cream or

00:08:26.940 something. I've been to Amsterdam like three times for work trips a long time ago. And

00:08:32.020 I mean, it's actually really easy. It's pretty much right near the city center. You can just

00:08:35.240 stumble into the red light district. It's just a normal street. And the women are beautiful

00:08:38.740 mostly as well. I don't know, they're a lot from Russia and stuff, I think. They're very

00:08:42.580 beautiful, actually. But it's just in the street. You have to like just shopping street

00:08:46.540 and it's just in the back of it. Just like naked. Yeah. But a lot of people are very open

00:08:53.680 in the Netherlands. You can walk naked in the Netherlands. They were like, oh, yeah, it's

00:08:56.260 fine. Just another Tuesday. It's fine. Sweet. Cool, cool. Is this your first time in the

00:09:01.260 U.S.? It is actually. Oh, wow. Okay. Welcome. So if you have any recommendations, let me know.

00:09:06.280 I want to see everything. I want to see the people at Walmart. I want to see like everything.

00:09:09.840 What a burger. Yeah, those are the most important American things. I want to see fat people. I

00:09:13.160 want to see everything. I want to see everything. Have you ever been to Zaken Burger? No, we

00:09:17.900 do not have a lot of fast food restaurants at all. We just have a burger in KFC, like a

00:09:22.240 little subway. We're not like the menus you have. No, well, when I was in Amsterdam, there's

00:09:25.860 this good burger place called Zaken Burger, like right by the city center. Then you suck

00:09:30.220 your burger or something. What do you do? Zaken. Zaken. Z-A-K-E-N.

00:09:35.160 No, I never heard of it. But as a Dutch person, we do not even go to Amsterdam a lot because

00:09:41.420 there's a lot of tourists there. It's not really Dutch anymore. So the Dutch people are

00:09:46.220 more like Amsterdam. It's nice for one day. No, we just go there if we want to be a tourist

00:09:52.580 in our own country. It's very weird actually. Okay. We do that here too. Really? Yeah. People

00:09:58.780 go to New York. Americans don't leave America. Yeah. But I have... We go on vacation in our

00:10:04.040 own country because we're poor. I had such a different view of America. I just saw America

00:10:07.620 like on Netflix and I just romanticized everything. And I just arrived here. I saw people screaming.

00:10:13.820 Yeah, don't see that. And I saw people sleeping on the street. And I was like, what the fuck

00:10:17.080 is going on here? And it's like, yeah. I don't know. I love it. I love it. Cool. What about

00:10:21.760 you? I'm Vivian. I'm 18. I'm from San Francisco originally, but I moved across the bay.

00:10:32.140 Oakland? Yeah. Next to Oakland, Orinda. It's like a suburb of Oakland. Okay. What do

00:10:40.300 you do for work or school? Well, I have like an internship with like a private or like a

00:10:50.440 small like record label, Firebird Sound. And I would like to do music, but it's more of

00:11:00.420 like a hobby. Like, so I will be working at Pete's probably. What? What's that? Pete's

00:11:07.540 Coffee. Oh, okay. Nice. On your Instagram, it says you're a member of the deep state.

00:11:14.360 What does that mean? Oh, well, that just means like, I'm just recognizing that I'm...

00:11:24.420 Yeah, thank you, Curtis. Appreciate that.

00:11:27.540 Curtis, I appreciate that. It's almost the first anniversary since Layla confessed her

00:11:33.380 love to you. BTW, if Layla and Bree asked you to join that work team and you'd make $1 million

00:11:39.920 yearly, would you do it? Happy anniversary.

00:11:43.300 Curtis, you and your like, would you questions. Yeah, it is. Is it the anniversary? Yes, sure. I

00:11:52.900 will join the twerk team for $1 million. There you go. Actually, no, I'll negotiate it.

00:12:01.140 The deep state thing. So is it just like Gen Z edgelord stuff?

00:12:07.380 No, it's just like a small recognition of the, of Alex Jones. Just a small homage, like just...

00:12:20.900 It's an Alex Jones homage? Yes. About the things that he turned out to be right about. Are you,

00:12:26.740 are you a big Alex Jones fan? No, because... Oh. So it's a homage, but you don't like him.

00:12:32.260 I think that he's like, well, I, I like him as like a character, you know. Okay. To watch, but...

00:12:43.780 So the homage is what exactly? Oh, the homage is just to the things he was right about. Like,

00:12:49.380 because he like kind of predicted 9-11 and I don't know if I can say the other one that he predicted.

00:12:57.300 Okay. All right. Cool. Because it's like... What about you?

00:13:02.260 Me. Um, hi, I'm Lucy. I'm 19. I'm from Los Angeles and I'm a student.

00:13:09.460 All right. What do you, uh, study? I'm still kind of figuring that out. Um,

00:13:16.020 I've been in the arts since I started school. I started, I wanted to get a bachelor's in visual

00:13:21.940 art, but I'm more interested in film now. Are you at a city college or four year university?

00:13:27.380 I'm doing community for now. Okay. You're just doing some credits. Yeah.

00:13:31.300 Undeclared major. Okay. What about you? Oh wait, actually Lucy, uh, on your Instagram,

00:13:36.980 it says we'll have her revenge. What does that mean? Okay. So yeah, that's some definitely like

00:13:44.020 teenage edginess type. I don't know. I kept it up for a while. I probably did that a few years ago,

00:13:50.260 but it's from the, um, Nirvana song. Francis will have her revenge on Seattle or Francis

00:13:58.340 Farmer will have her revenge in Seattle. And I don't know, I had like a spiritual connection

00:14:03.380 with that song or something when I was like 16. Yeah. But I still, yeah, I love grunge.

00:14:09.460 All right. Um, and, uh, you have an interesting sternum tattoo. We can't really show it, but what's

00:14:15.860 the story there? Not much of a story. I just thought it was sick. Just thought it looks cool.

00:14:19.620 Yeah. Got paid and wanted to get a tattoo. Okay. What about you? My name's Alexa and I'm from

00:14:26.260 Baltimore, Maryland. I'm 21 years old and I do OnlyFans and content creation and I'm also a student.

00:14:33.060 So I study, um, advertising and PR and I also do marketing. So you said 21? Yes. Okay. As of like

00:14:40.500 two weeks ago. What about you? I'm Maddie. I'm 27. I'm from Dallas, Texas, and I run a thrift store

00:14:47.780 for the deaf community. And as we know, as I think it's the only deaf thrift store, like the,

00:14:53.060 we're the only one that does that. Okay. And I'm Lauren Cofie. I'm a singer, songwriter,

00:15:00.820 model, and actress, all of them creative things. Um, I'm from Nottingham, but I live in London.

00:15:06.900 Age? 30. All right. And were you recently on like a reality TV show or? Yes. Might have been.

00:15:14.100 I was on Blue Therapy. Yeah. Okay. And you said you're a singer. What kind of, uh, what genre of

00:15:19.540 music? Um, so I sing mostly R and B, but with the songwriter, it will be like with rappers or

00:15:24.020 house music. I've got some house songs out there. Bit of everything. Can we hear a little sample,

00:15:28.660 a couple of bars? Someone give me a song. Cause I'm so indecisive. Alicia Keys. Which one? Fallen.

00:15:35.220 If I Ain't Got You. Oh. Oh. Beautiful song. Wait, wait, wait. Give me the lyrics. Wait.

00:15:40.180 Some people live for the fortune. Some people live just for the fame. There you go. Wow.

00:15:54.180 Thank you. Cool. Next. Amazing. Uh, I'm Shane Smith. I'm 37. I'm from Utah and I'm a comedian.

00:16:04.820 All right. Welcome. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome Shane. And, uh, you always lived from in Utah or?

00:16:11.060 Yeah. Yeah. I pretty much grew up in Utah exclusively. I lived in like Mount Arrowhead

00:16:14.820 here in California for a little bit, but. Okay. And, uh, I'm sure people might be curious.

00:16:19.140 So what's the genesis of all the tattoos? Um, yeah, I get my family is white trash. I grew

00:16:25.300 up in the middle of nowhere. My stepfather was in a motorcycle club. And so me and my brothers

00:16:30.100 kind of went that route in our lives. And so, yeah, I, I had full sleeves in my neck

00:16:35.520 and stuff when I was 18. So. Wow. Were you affiliated with the motorcycle club? Yeah. Okay.

00:16:41.240 Are you still? No, no, I am not. I am out good. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Cool.

00:16:48.340 Um, do you still have the, um, I, I saw Sons of Anarchy 10 years ago. I've never seen it jacket

00:16:55.100 or? No, no, you don't keep your cut if you leave. Okay. Got it. Cool. Cool. What about

00:16:59.820 you? I'm Dominica. I'm 22. Um, right now I'm just at school, cosmetology school. Um, I used

00:17:10.840 to be a gymnastics coach though. That was like really fun. Um, so yeah, life is just

00:17:17.400 mid right now. Life is mid. Oh no. I live right now. Uh, and where are you from? California.

00:17:24.320 California. So LA area, I guess. All right. And you're in cosmetology school. You want

00:17:29.940 to do hair, makeup. What do you want to do? Uh, yeah, I enjoy doing hair and makeup, I guess

00:17:35.100 like events, like weddings, proms, things like that. Okay, cool. Well, we're going to go around

00:17:39.980 the table once more. What is everybody's current relationship status? So are you single, talking

00:17:44.440 stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex, cult

00:17:48.540 harem, whatever it may be. If you're single, how long have you been single and what's the

00:17:53.500 longest relationship you've ever been in? Go ahead. I am single. Um, I've been single for

00:18:00.580 about two and a half years now. Um, my longest relationship was five years. Was that the one

00:18:09.540 that ended two and a half years ago? Yes. So that was from like 18 to 23 kind of or? Yeah.

00:18:17.000 Um, end of 2017, December. Um, and then July of 20, gosh, 2022. Were you guys both like

00:18:30.360 last year of high school or? I got married at 18 out of high school. Yes. Okay. So you

00:18:36.440 guys were married for five years? Yes. And the divorce is official or still in the works? It's

00:18:43.260 waiting on a signature. Okay. Who initiated the divorce? Uh, it was me. Why? Um, there's a lot if

00:18:55.040 you go all the way back, but, um, essentially it boiled down to, he didn't want to be married. Um,

00:19:03.400 he said he didn't love me while we were married, but then every time I would say, well, let's stop

00:19:09.180 wasting each other's time. He would kind of like pull back and be like, no, don't leave me. Um,

00:19:14.420 and there was infidelity. And so it just got to a point where I had to leave. It was not,

00:19:22.800 I was trying so hard to make it work and it just, how long had you guys been seeing each other before

00:19:27.340 you got married? About a little under a year. Okay. And you said he enlisted in the military?

00:19:35.980 Yes. He was a Marine. When you met or? He was training to, um, ROTC. He didn't do ROTC,

00:19:45.540 but he was working out with them. He knew he wanted to join. Um, so I was aware of that.

00:19:49.620 Okay. Yeah. And, uh, any relationships? Well, wait, so you've been single for 2.5 years and

00:19:57.200 that's since the divorce? Yes. There's been no other guys in the picture? No. Nothing? Zero?

00:20:03.460 Come on. Not a short-term thing, friends with benefits? No, I haven't really seen anybody.

00:20:09.900 Since the divorce? What about during the proceedings, during the divorce? During the relationship?

00:20:18.040 Any infidelity on your part? Um, yeah, they're, so, it's a long story. Um, he,

00:20:29.460 he cheated on me with my best friend. Ooh. And. What? It's about to get juicy.

00:20:40.020 Best friend, eh? Yeah. Okay. And, um. How long, how long were you best friends with the best friend?

00:20:46.060 Friends with the best friend? We, we were friends for a couple months, but she was my best friend that

00:20:51.440 I had made in my adulthood. Okay. So, and, you know, it's military. You move away from everybody you

00:20:57.460 know, and you're kind of like in your own separate bubble. You're not with your family and, you know.

00:21:03.840 Right. So, yeah. And then, so, and I cheated on you and so you were like getting revenge or who

00:21:11.600 cheated first? Yeah. Uh, he cheated first for sure, but I, um. Did you fuck his dad or something?

00:21:17.740 God, no. That would be so great. I know she, her, her boyfriend fucked the best friend. I don't know.

00:21:22.560 That would be great. I, um, there was another guy who kind of was like, you know, he's not treating

00:21:29.400 you right. You deserve better. You know, all that. And, um, was he your friend? No, he, he was one of

00:21:38.240 his friends actually. Yeah. That's messy. That's always how that goes out. And he tried to get me to

00:21:46.580 leave the relationship and be with him, but I saw him like break down when I told him I was leaving

00:21:51.960 and I had never actually seen him like fight for me at that point. Um, and I thought like what kind

00:21:59.480 of wife would I be if I didn't try to stay and make it work? And he said, you're going to last like

00:22:06.940 another two years, his friend. And he was right. So. And so let's see here. You, were there multiple

00:22:17.800 different partners when it comes to the cheating or just this one guy? No, it was just that guy.

00:22:23.940 And then did you end up dating that guy or? No. So it was a couple short term thing. Yeah.

00:22:29.620 And then you've been celibate for 2.5 years about or? I, I have been with one person, um, but

00:22:38.240 not for a while. You haven't seen him for a while. Yeah. How long, uh, how long were you seeing him?

00:22:46.020 Are you still seeing him? Probably like, probably like a couple months.

00:22:52.100 Are you still seeing him? No, I'm not. So you guys broke up or fizzled? It wasn't really a

00:22:58.660 relationship ever. Okay. So you've been single while it wasn't a relationship, but okay. Yeah. No

00:23:05.500 serious relationship for 2.5 years. Yeah. Um, you said you do adult content. Do you shoot scenes with

00:23:11.300 men? Uh, I have in the past. I don't currently do that. You have shot scenes and was this through

00:23:19.700 your OnlyFans or you've done traditional porn? No, I've haven't done traditional porn. It was

00:23:24.000 through OF. Okay. And you've, you said with a couple men or just one man or one guy? Was

00:23:29.260 it the guy who for a couple months that you were? Yes. Okay. Got it. Can I ask you a question?

00:23:35.380 Ask me a question. Uh-huh. Oh, okay. If that's okay. Yeah. You said, um, what kind of wife

00:23:42.460 would I be if I do not fight for a relationship? Yeah. If you, if you do not fight for a relationship,

00:23:48.680 if you look back at the time that you cheated, do you regret it? Because that's not really fighting

00:23:54.620 for your relationships, right? I do. Yeah. Did he know? He did. So, so he's not going to find

00:24:02.080 out from this podcast. This is such a weird situation. Like he was trying to get us into

00:24:11.780 like polyamory at some point because he couldn't be monogamous. The last gasp of a guy in marriage.

00:24:19.200 But with your best friend. And so he, I say I cheated, but he knew that I was with him. Like

00:24:27.200 it's, but I consider it, it was cheating, you know? So. All right. What about you? So currently,

00:24:37.500 um, I just started dating someone, but I think it's getting serious. I don't know. We should have

00:24:43.280 a conversation, a check-in, uh, whether my longest relationship is five years. Um, from when I was

00:24:51.120 18 to like 18 plus five. What's the other question? There, that's it. Uh, how long have you been,

00:24:56.880 if you're single, how long have you been single? Oh, I'm not single. Yeah. I just started seeing

00:25:01.320 someone. How long have you been seeing this guy? Um, like two, three months, but we don't really

00:25:06.800 see each other very often because he's really busy. I've been really busy and traveling. So I'd be

00:25:11.180 like, we don't see each other sometimes even like two weeks. Yeah. So it's hard. Yeah. So it's a bit

00:25:17.640 slow. When you say it's starting maybe to get serious. Yeah. What, what does that mean?

00:25:24.140 Like I'm ready to have sex with him. That's so cute. That's so cute. Hold on. Wait, you're

00:25:29.960 ready to have sex with him? Yeah. You guys haven't had sex? No, but next time I'm thinking about it.

00:25:35.920 Wait, how many, how many times have you seen each other in person? I, more than a dozen, but I don't

00:25:40.660 know, like every week we try to every week, but there are times that's like two, three weeks we don't see

00:25:45.400 each other. So you've seen him about a dozen times? More than, yeah, I guess. Why are you so

00:25:50.720 surprised? Well, there's things that I'm, okay. Well, so hold on. Why, why are you surprised by

00:25:58.760 my surprise? Because you look like, why didn't you have sex yet? Three months? Well, I mean, I know

00:26:05.380 you're a man, right? And I get it. I feel like that's kind of normal. Don't you do porn? Yeah, that's what I was

00:26:11.520 thinking. But I do not suck dick for a living. That's not what I do. But that's another story

00:26:15.520 we've come to. Why do you look so surprised? Well, if he wanted to wait, maybe sees like a

00:26:20.960 wife. I don't know. It's so cute, right? Okay, so anyways. Very romantic. I think it's so romantic.

00:26:25.340 He's a man of whimsy. Well, it's enjoying himself and absorbing the information. It's just men

00:26:29.960 always disappoint me. It's like, I have my vibrator. I can't guarantee I have orgasm every day.

00:26:34.700 Why would I have to go out to meet a guy to pretend to enjoy it? You do not want a real

00:26:40.760 dick. When I don't feel love yet, you know? Like when I truly feel like, okay, you know

00:26:45.640 what? When I cuddle you, I still feel satisfied. Okay, let's do that, you know? But otherwise,

00:26:51.540 it's just a waste of my emotion, my makeup and my hair, you know? And then you could get

00:26:57.260 attached too. Yeah, exactly. We biologically get, we release oxytocin to get attached with them.

00:27:03.800 And that's just unfair. Yeah, but I understand. But are you not scared if you're so in love

00:27:08.460 with him and everything and you finally have sex and he has like a small dick? No, I touched

00:27:12.600 him the first date. Oh, you touched him the first date, but now you're waiting. It's like...

00:27:18.200 That's torture. That's torture. That's torture. Can you tilt your mic down a little bit?

00:27:22.540 She's done everything. Tilt it down. So, and has this, does he want to have sex? Yeah,

00:27:29.780 yeah. I think so. Like he's on me all the time. But you're like, let's wait. Yeah. Till

00:27:35.140 I'm ready. He's very respectful. Yeah. But he's interesting. Like he's made moves and you're

00:27:39.620 like, no, let's wait. Yeah. Have you had sex with a man quicker than 12 dates? Yeah,

00:27:44.340 of course. Have you had sex with a man on the first date? I've had one night stand before.

00:27:48.440 Yes. A couple of one night stands? Yeah. Second date? Second date. Yeah. I think so. Third

00:27:56.580 date? Probably. Yeah. Fourth date? I mean, if you keep going, we can... How many? I don't

00:28:02.580 know. Fourth date? I don't know because I can't tell you like... If you keep going, it'd be like

00:28:08.500 20, 30, 40. So... I don't remember. You touched his dick and then you were like, no, not today.

00:28:14.320 No, like when you make out, you do the test, you know? Like, is it big? You gave him like

00:28:19.180 a handjob? Blue balls. You can give a handjob. I don't have to give a handjob. Can I ask you

00:28:23.940 a question, dude? Yeah. Shane, if let's say you're like hooking up with a girl but she doesn't

00:28:29.460 want to like do anything like too far and but handjobs on the table. I don't know about

00:28:35.340 you, dude. I'd rather just not get the handjob. You're not... No, that's not my experience,

00:28:41.100 you're not a fan. Are you old fashioned? Yeah. I'd rather just not... Like if a handjob

00:28:47.100 is all that's on the table, I'd rather just not. You know what I... No, you're just lazy.

00:28:52.100 I mean, I get where you're coming from. You know what I get? But I feel like most guys are

00:28:56.280 so desperate. They're like, anything, just anything you have, I'll dry hump you. Please

00:29:00.100 let me... Oh, they literally dry hump you. Me. Yeah. They dry hump all the time. Oh.

00:29:04.860 Like, that's not one person. I'm like, I've had... Like, I don't want to have sex. Have

00:29:10.860 you ever dry humped somebody? I'm from Utah, brother. I have dry humped a lot. I guarantee

00:29:17.860 you, every man has dry humped. There's one day you will dry hump, but you'll regret this

00:29:21.860 moment. What is dry humping? Can somebody film it? Is it like... It's when you make

00:29:25.860 your clothes on. Robert Tanner, thank you. And you're having... Thank you, Robert. You're

00:29:28.860 essentially having sex, but your clothes are still on. So you're looking like a little

00:29:31.860 strange... Looking against you, yeah. Yeah. Gyration.

00:29:34.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever... Oh, what's it called? Like, grinding.

00:29:37.860 Are you gonna ask about soaking? Yeah. Have you ever soaked? I have not soaked, but that

00:29:40.860 is a real thing that does happen. Wait, are you Mormon? I'm not Mormon. I'm Catholic.

00:29:44.860 Okay. Okay. Have you ever been, like, so horny, you just, like, rub your jeans against

00:29:48.860 something? Like, that's... No. I have. So that's the feeling of dry humping, yeah. No. I...

00:29:53.860 I want to go home. Me too. I never done that. No, actually, no. She would actually have

00:30:00.860 sex. But so I'm curious, so... Maybe, yeah. And are you religious? Yeah. Are you religious?

00:30:03.860 No, I'm not. So, and then, the guy that you saw before... Like, have you been seeing other

00:30:11.860 guys during this time period? Actually, not. Actually, I haven't. It's not because I haven't

00:30:15.860 tried, but just because I haven't... Tell them the truth. Isis, you tell them the truth?

00:30:20.860 Okay, yeah, I have. There's... You've been seeing other guys, right? Well, no, I have

00:30:24.860 been. I've gone on, like, first dates. You've gone on dates? Yeah, I've gone on dates with

00:30:27.860 other men. Did you hook up with any of them? No. Isis? Isis? No. You're not doing the

00:30:30.860 test? Tell them the truth. Huh? You're not doing the test on any of these guys? Oh, I am doing

00:30:33.860 the test on them. Oh. But I made out with them, but I didn't have sex. But do you also feel

00:30:39.860 their dick? What? Well, yeah, if they're small, it depends. I mean, if it's, like, three,

00:30:46.860 I might not see them. But it also depends. Like, maybe they're not hard at that moment.

00:30:51.860 So, it just... I need more data to prove. But what if... Wait. So, I need to go on more

00:30:56.860 dates. Wait. Did you actually even say that the size matters? Is that...? Size matters. Okay.

00:31:01.860 But so, if you, like, you go for that immediate grab, and it's not, like, up to par, do you

00:31:06.860 just leave, or do you, like, kick it for a bit? I would say, um, it's not that big. And

00:31:11.860 then see how he reacts. You will say it in his face. No fucking way. You can tell him that.

00:31:16.860 I've done that once at a bar. There's a guy who's really cocky. So, he was really cocky.

00:31:20.860 He was like, oh, you know what? Come home with me. I have this, this, that. And he was, like,

00:31:24.860 gesturing down there. And I was like, okay, then let me see. Let me see. If you're gesturing,

00:31:28.860 let me see. Okay. And then he scooted over a little bit. It was like,

00:31:31.860 at the bar. So, underneath the table, I just grabbed it. I was like, I don't know what I'm

00:31:35.860 seeing. Like, I don't have seen anything. But what is a normal size for you? Like,

00:31:38.860 if you held it, like, one or two hands? Maybe two. Two, yeah. I love this story

00:31:43.860 about how this guy, you're like, oh, I totally dunked on him, and he tricked you into grabbing

00:31:47.860 his dick. That's what happens. Yes. That's his move right there. He's like,

00:31:51.860 I did it. What an awesome night for me. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah.

00:31:55.860 Well, I didn't grab his dick from the inside, just on the outside. It doesn't, it's still

00:31:59.860 a win for the boys. I'm telling you. No guy cares about that distinction.

00:32:03.860 Well, then, I'm very generous. You are, yeah. Good for them.

00:32:06.860 You are a very open person, literally. Yeah. I love that for you.

00:32:10.860 Wait, so while you've been, so while this guy who you've been seeing for three months,

00:32:13.860 it's getting serious, you have been going on other dates during this time period.

00:32:17.860 Yeah. When's the last time you were on a date with somebody else?

00:32:21.860 Like, two weeks ago? Or at least, yeah, two weeks ago.

00:32:28.860 Is it really that serious if you dated another guy two weeks ago?

00:32:32.860 You mean, like, another date with a different guy? That was more than two weeks ago.

00:32:37.860 It was like three weeks. With the same guy, it was two weeks ago.

00:32:40.860 With the guy who you're interested in, that was two weeks ago.

00:32:43.860 Two weeks ago, yes.

00:32:44.860 Okay, no, I was asking, when's the last time you were on a date with, like, a different guy?

00:32:47.860 Oh, that's at least, like, four weeks, three weeks?

00:32:49.860 Four weeks, yeah.

00:32:50.860 Okay, all right. And then?

00:32:52.860 End of July, I remember the date, yeah.

00:32:55.860 Okay, so, I guess, so to answer your question why I'm a little surprised here.

00:33:01.860 So, she's not had sex with this guy, and she's waited, it's been 12 days.

00:33:06.860 But you have actually no actual objections to sleeping with people quickly.

00:33:10.860 Yes.

00:33:11.860 That's where my surprise is.

00:33:12.860 Yes, I get you now.

00:33:13.860 So, it seems rather arbitrary that this guy who you actually like, he has to wait for sex,

00:33:18.860 but all the other men who are not worthy of a relationship, you gave them the pussy right away.

00:33:22.860 Because I was...

00:33:23.860 How do you reconcile that?

00:33:24.860 I was at a different place back then. I used to be a serial dater.

00:33:28.860 I had a lot more insecurities. I just wanted validation.

00:33:32.860 So, if I can get men's attention, even if they're ugly, sometimes I'm happy.

00:33:37.860 But now, I'm at an age where I feel pretty good about myself.

00:33:41.860 I want to build a life, and I feel like my next person is going to be my husband.

00:33:45.860 So, like, this has been... I've been doing this for a while now.

00:33:49.860 So, I don't feel like I can't want to waste my time anymore.

00:33:52.860 And it's not like, oh, I decided to be a good girl. It's not that.

00:33:55.860 It's just I had enough trashy experience with men, and I got enough attention that I'm like, I'm done.

00:34:01.860 Like, that's over.

00:34:02.860 So, what's the dating while you're with him? Does he know about that?

00:34:06.860 I don't think he objects to that because I think we never, like, talked about it.

00:34:10.860 But I'm looking for a husband.

00:34:12.860 Yeah.

00:34:13.860 Yeah.

00:34:14.860 If he's not good enough, if he's not good enough for me, then I can pick someone else.

00:34:18.860 Before I'm committed in a relationship, everybody is fair game.

00:34:22.860 It's the bachelorette for myself.

00:34:24.860 It's fair.

00:34:25.860 What is good enough?

00:34:26.860 Yeah.

00:34:27.860 Good enough is...

00:34:28.860 It's very hard to describe, right?

00:34:30.860 First, you have to have chemistry.

00:34:31.860 Oh, no.

00:34:32.860 Then you have to have money.

00:34:33.860 Then you have to have good personality.

00:34:35.860 But do you find yourself good enough for a relationship?

00:34:37.860 Hold on.

00:34:38.860 Hold on.

00:34:39.860 You got to let her finish answering the question.

00:34:40.860 Go ahead.

00:34:41.860 Yeah.

00:34:42.860 You're listing the things.

00:34:43.860 So, chemistry, money.

00:34:44.860 Chemistry, money.

00:34:45.860 Personality.

00:34:46.860 Moral.

00:34:47.860 Personality.

00:34:48.860 Family values.

00:34:49.860 Yeah.

00:34:50.860 Those things.

00:34:51.860 So, the things that...

00:34:52.860 The family values...

00:34:53.860 What are family values to you?

00:34:55.860 Yeah.

00:34:56.860 Like, are...

00:34:57.860 Do they...

00:34:58.860 What are their parents like?

00:34:59.860 Do they believe in monogamy?

00:35:00.860 Are they...

00:35:01.860 Like, or...

00:35:02.860 What's their experience?

00:35:03.860 Have they cheated before?

00:35:04.860 Or, like, are they seeing therapy?

00:35:07.860 Like, are they open to family therapy?

00:35:09.860 Sure.

00:35:10.860 If he's sleeping with other people right now, would that bum you out?

00:35:13.860 Yes.

00:35:14.860 Interesting.

00:35:15.860 Mm-hmm.

00:35:16.860 But you're grabbing people's penises on dates to see if they're bigger than three inches.

00:35:19.860 Yes.

00:35:20.860 Was that before?

00:35:21.860 Okay.

00:35:22.860 Before you were dating?

00:35:23.860 It's only...

00:35:24.860 It's not that, oh, I'm gonna do that every time on a first date.

00:35:25.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:35:26.860 It's like, if we are making out, and my hands just happen to be near his pocket, I mean,

00:35:30.860 I might just grab a little bit, you know, measure.

00:35:32.860 Yeah.

00:35:33.860 So, there's no fault in that.

00:35:34.860 He likes it, like you said.

00:35:35.860 Like you said.

00:35:36.860 Do you ask before?

00:35:37.860 You just...

00:35:38.860 Why would I ask, like you said, and then love it, right?

00:35:40.860 I mean, like, sexual battery, but, I mean...

00:35:44.860 We're going off body language and intent.

00:35:46.860 You would rather be asking.

00:35:47.860 But I don't want to bum you out, but I'm gonna be honest.

00:35:50.860 That guy, I don't think making out is that big of a distinction from sleeping with someone.

00:35:54.860 If I was, like, going on a lot of dates with a girl, and we were really intimate,

00:35:57.860 and we were waiting to sleep together because, like, it was really fulfilling to be with her,

00:36:01.860 and I found out she was making out with other people, I would immediately never talk to that

00:36:06.860 person for the rest of my life.

00:36:08.860 Am I the only one who finds kissing more intimate than...

00:36:11.860 No, it's very...

00:36:12.860 It sets the mood, right?

00:36:13.860 Yeah.

00:36:14.860 So I would find it more difficult if a man would say to me, I cheat because I kiss someone

00:36:19.860 that would hurt me more than he sticks his dick in somebody, I think.

00:36:22.860 I do, like, the adult industry thing like you, and a lot of, like, creators, like,

00:36:26.860 if you're doing a collab with someone, I feel like...

00:36:27.860 You do not kiss.

00:36:28.860 Well, yeah, they don't kiss.

00:36:29.860 So you can go meet up with this person, and then you do the collab with whatever, like,

00:36:34.860 corn star or whatever you want to call it, but they, a lot of them do not kiss.

00:36:38.860 Like, they...

00:36:39.860 I mean, that's something I reserve more for somebody I'm actually interested in.

00:36:42.860 Like, in a relationship, because it's, like, something that's more special for them.

00:36:47.860 You know?

00:36:48.860 Exactly.

00:36:49.860 Well, we'll come back to some of those topics.

00:36:50.860 We'll get everybody's relationship status first, though.

00:36:53.860 What about you?

00:36:54.860 I've been single for a few months.

00:36:57.860 I had a very short relationship from one and a half months, two months.

00:37:01.860 He was a personal trainer.

00:37:03.860 He cheated on me with one of his clients.

00:37:05.860 Like, the classic story.

00:37:06.860 Classic.

00:37:07.860 Very classic.

00:37:08.860 Classic.

00:37:09.860 They say it is, right?

00:37:12.860 And before...

00:37:13.860 Was he Dutch?

00:37:14.860 No, he was from Belgium.

00:37:16.860 I didn't even understand him, because we had a different language.

00:37:19.860 It's very funny, though.

00:37:20.860 Was it German-speaking or French-speaking?

00:37:22.860 More French.

00:37:23.860 Because don't they speak some parts German?

00:37:25.860 Yeah, dialect, French-ish.

00:37:28.860 Yeah.

00:37:29.860 Okay.

00:37:30.860 I was single for years, actually.

00:37:32.860 I do not do one-night stands.

00:37:34.860 I do not do anything like that.

00:37:37.860 So I was just totally single without any interaction or anything.

00:37:40.860 So...

00:37:41.860 Okay.

00:37:42.860 All right.

00:37:43.860 And...

00:37:44.860 Longest relationship?

00:37:45.860 Nine months.

00:37:46.860 Nine months.

00:37:47.860 Okay.

00:37:48.860 You make content with men?

00:37:50.860 I have one...

00:37:52.860 No.

00:37:53.860 I have one movie with a person.

00:37:56.860 Yeah.

00:37:57.860 The rest, I just post, like, lingerie pictures, stuff like that.

00:38:00.860 Solo content, a lot.

00:38:02.860 Personal videos, video calling, and stuff like that.

00:38:06.860 I do not do a lot of collaborations.

00:38:09.860 Mostly because I want to see the earning of the other person as well.

00:38:12.860 It has to be a little bit equal, you may understand.

00:38:15.860 Like a business thing.

00:38:17.860 And I think it's hard to do a collaboration.

00:38:20.860 I'm always a little bit scared that somebody will, like, fuck me over a little bit.

00:38:25.860 Did you set a price?

00:38:26.860 And they will just post it earlier just to, like, get more money out of it.

00:38:29.860 I don't know.

00:38:30.860 I'm just a little bit reserved on that.

00:38:32.860 I do not have an agency.

00:38:33.860 I do everything by myself.

00:38:35.860 So I'm very conscious about it.

00:38:38.860 Your relationship status?

00:38:40.860 I am single.

00:38:43.860 My longest relationship was, like, four months.

00:38:47.860 And I've been single for, like, also four months or maybe three.

00:38:53.860 Like, since summer.

00:38:55.860 What were the other questions?

00:38:59.860 The one that ended three months ago, was that the four month one?

00:39:02.860 Yes.

00:39:03.860 Is this the only guy you've ever dated?

00:39:05.860 Dated, yeah.

00:39:06.860 Okay.

00:39:07.860 But you've had, like, situationships or shorter term casual stuff with other guys?

00:39:12.860 Sure.

00:39:13.860 Yeah.

00:39:14.860 Orientation?

00:39:15.860 I mean, that's unsure.

00:39:18.860 So you date women, too, then?

00:39:20.860 No.

00:39:21.860 Oh.

00:39:22.860 I don't know if I would date a woman or not.

00:39:25.860 Straight?

00:39:26.860 I don't know if I would date a woman or not.

00:39:28.860 So you're curious?

00:39:29.860 Yeah.

00:39:30.860 By curious?

00:39:31.860 Have you, like, made out with a girl?

00:39:33.860 Yeah.

00:39:34.860 Okay.

00:39:35.860 What about you?

00:39:36.860 I'm single.

00:39:37.860 All right.

00:39:38.860 As of, I guess, like, the beginning of this year, my longest relationship was, I don't

00:39:45.860 know if you could officially say, like, a year, but on and off, about a year.

00:39:51.860 Mm-hmm.

00:39:52.860 Finally just kind of cut ties with him, actually, very recently, like, for good.

00:39:57.860 But...

00:39:58.860 Well, you said you've been single for nine months.

00:39:59.860 So when you say very recently, you mean nine months ago?

00:40:02.860 No, because I was, I kept in contact, but...

00:40:05.860 After you guys split up?

00:40:07.860 Yeah.

00:40:08.860 And you were on and off for one year?

00:40:10.860 What?

00:40:11.860 How many times were you on and off?

00:40:12.860 This year.

00:40:13.860 Um, we were only officially together, I guess, a total of, like, seven months, you could say,

00:40:22.860 in between then, like, hooking up a little bit, but...

00:40:27.860 So how many times, you said it was on and off, how many times was it...?

00:40:31.860 Was it on?

00:40:32.860 Was it on and off?

00:40:34.860 Within a year, like, three times.

00:40:37.860 Who would end it?

00:40:38.860 Me, eventually.

00:40:40.860 Who would go back to who?

00:40:41.860 Me, but not anymore.

00:40:43.860 You would end it, but then you'd go back to him.

00:40:45.860 Why would you end things?

00:40:47.860 I'd get fed up.

00:40:48.860 About, with what?

00:40:50.860 Other women?

00:40:51.860 He's a serial cheater, and a narcissist, and a master manipulator, but I wasn't strong enough

00:40:56.860 to call it quits for good at the time.

00:40:58.860 When you say, uh, narcissist and master manipulator, let's start with narcissist.

00:41:04.860 So what, what did he do, or what was his conduct that made you believe he's a narcissist?

00:41:11.860 Well, um, pretty much as soon as we got together, he moved in with me.

00:41:16.860 I took care of him.

00:41:17.860 I paid for everything, pretty much.

00:41:20.860 Um, and I found out that entire time he had been, literally since day one, serial cheating on me,

00:41:28.860 with everyone and their mother.

00:41:31.860 I found hundreds of DMs, videos, pictures, everything you could possibly imagine.

00:41:40.860 Can I ask you a question?

00:41:41.860 Uh-huh.

00:41:42.860 I was just, I've always been curious about that.

00:41:44.860 Um, what did you have to tell yourself to be okay with paying for everything for him?

00:41:49.860 Or, like, taking care of him?

00:41:52.860 I did the same question.

00:41:53.860 I just folded for him every time.

00:41:55.860 Yeah.

00:41:56.860 I'm a little curious though.

00:41:57.860 It's sad.

00:41:58.860 It's, it's pathetic.

00:41:59.860 Well, you're, you're quite young.

00:42:00.860 You're 19.

00:42:01.860 I assume when you guys were dating, you must've been 18.

00:42:02.860 Yeah.

00:42:03.860 I was 17, 18.

00:42:04.860 Were you living with your parents?

00:42:05.860 I was, yeah.

00:42:06.860 So he moved into your parents' house?

00:42:07.860 Mm-hmm.

00:42:08.860 Wow.

00:42:09.860 Was he, like, homeless?

00:42:10.860 Yeah, kind of.

00:42:11.860 Um, I mean, it's sad.

00:42:12.860 I mean, I'm assuming your parents had to agree to this arrangement.

00:42:15.860 They did.

00:42:16.860 They didn't like him, but, you know.

00:42:18.860 You just met him, and so how soon after meeting him did he move into your house?

00:42:23.860 We didn't, like, fully move in.

00:42:25.860 He had a place with his aunt that he was kind of, like, in and out of.

00:42:29.860 Or, or no, he did have a place, but he ended up getting kicked out, and that's when he started living with me.

00:42:34.860 When you, so, but, when you say he was living with you, he was there every day, spending the night?

00:42:39.860 Most of it, yeah.

00:42:40.860 Was he in your bedroom?

00:42:41.860 Yes.

00:42:42.860 Hold on.

00:42:43.860 This is your parents' house?

00:42:44.860 No, my bedroom.

00:42:45.860 Yes, but my parents' house, but.

00:42:46.860 Are your parents still together?

00:42:47.860 Yes.

00:42:48.860 Wow.

00:42:49.860 And both your mom and your father live in this house?

00:42:52.860 Yeah.

00:42:53.860 And, wait, so, okay, how long after meeting him did he, like, kind of start moving in?

00:42:58.860 Like a month.

00:43:00.860 I mean, this is a failure on, no offense to your parents, this is an absolute failure on your parents.

00:43:04.860 No, none taken.

00:43:05.860 I'm, I'm well aware.

00:43:06.860 Like, there's no scenario if I had, like, a, if I had a young adult daughter living with me, that I'm letting her boyfriend move into my house.

00:43:15.860 Listen, they've been through a lot with me at this point, like.

00:43:18.860 Oh, yeah, tell us.

00:43:19.860 They should protect you a little bit more.

00:43:21.860 Do I, do I want to tell you?

00:43:22.860 Tell us about that.

00:43:24.860 I'm not so sure.

00:43:25.860 I don't want to take up so much time, anyway.

00:43:27.860 Give us the plot synopsis, reader's digest.

00:43:29.860 Of my life.

00:43:30.860 Sparks notes.

00:43:31.860 Of my problems.

00:43:32.860 Sparks notes.

00:43:33.860 How I've, all the ways I've traumatized my parents in my adolescence.

00:43:36.860 Yes, please.

00:43:37.860 The best parts.

00:43:38.860 All right.

00:43:40.860 Let's go, Netherlands.

00:43:41.860 Um, we can start with, uh, I got kicked out of school for doing cocaine when I was 16.

00:43:46.860 And sent to the wilderness therapy, which is actually where I met this lovely lady.

00:43:51.860 Oh, right.

00:43:52.860 Did you guys go to Utah?

00:43:53.860 Well, we went to the same one.

00:43:54.860 We went to the same one, but then we ended up getting sent to a therapeutic boarding school

00:43:58.860 in Montana, like, 10 miles south of the Canadian border, like, literally butt-fuck nowhere.

00:44:05.860 Nice.

00:44:06.860 Wait, so you went, you guys met at boarding school.

00:44:09.860 Yeah, we were roommates.

00:44:10.860 And you were, you guys were both, like, 17 at the time?

00:44:13.860 I, yeah.

00:44:14.860 I was 16 turned 17.

00:44:15.860 And you both did cocaine, or?

00:44:17.860 What?

00:44:18.860 No, no, no.

00:44:19.860 That's just me.

00:44:20.860 She didn't meth.

00:44:21.860 Oh.

00:44:23.860 So, hold on.

00:44:24.860 Let's go back to you real quick.

00:44:25.860 Heroine's more of her jam.

00:44:26.860 What?

00:44:27.860 What?

00:44:28.860 Wow.

00:44:29.860 No, I'm kidding.

00:44:30.860 I promise.

00:44:31.860 She's not a joke.

00:44:32.860 What was it that got you landed in boarding school?

00:44:34.860 Well.

00:44:35.860 Into the mic.

00:44:36.860 Into the mic.

00:44:37.860 Oh, sorry.

00:44:38.860 I had a very bad, very sad, bad attempt to run away from home.

00:44:44.860 And I, the reason it didn't work is because I brought, like, four garbage bags of, like,

00:44:52.860 items, because I, like, really wanted to make it work, but in the end I was too prepared.

00:44:59.860 Like, like, took me 45 minutes to walk, like, it should have taken me, like, 10.

00:45:05.860 The bags were just heavy.

00:45:06.860 They were so heavy.

00:45:07.860 So you got down the street, is what you're saying.

00:45:08.860 You tried to run away, and you were, like, a block away.

00:45:10.860 Yeah, you run away.

00:45:11.860 You were, like, get back here.

00:45:12.860 What are you doing?

00:45:13.860 It took 45 minutes to do that.

00:45:14.860 Like, no, I do not want to come home.

00:45:15.860 That's why homeless people have a bindle.

00:45:16.860 Yeah.

00:45:17.860 They can move fast with a stick in the bag on it.

00:45:19.860 Still a sharp heart.

00:45:20.860 I'm running away.

00:45:21.860 Give me a second.

00:45:22.860 I'm trying to be dramatic here.

00:45:23.860 Yeah.

00:45:24.860 You got caught trying to run away, and then that's it?

00:45:28.860 That's why they sent you to boarding school, or was there other stuff?

00:45:30.860 Oh, well, there was stuff leading up to that, like, generally, like, risky behavior.

00:45:38.860 Okay.

00:45:39.860 Like?

00:45:40.860 Like, just, I would just, like, want to, like, go to San Francisco at night.

00:45:45.860 Like, not even doing anything super devious.

00:45:48.860 I just, like, liked to go, but it was, like...

00:45:51.860 With friends?

00:45:52.860 Like, go out with friends?

00:45:53.860 No.

00:45:54.860 Just alone?

00:45:55.860 Yeah.

00:45:56.860 In the streets of San Francisco?

00:45:57.860 Yeah.

00:45:58.860 As, like, a 14, 15-year-old.

00:45:59.860 Oh, that's it.

00:46:00.860 Yikes.

00:46:01.860 Why do you hate your home so much?

00:46:02.860 Well, at the time, I just had some, like, personal issues that I probably wouldn't go into.

00:46:11.860 Okay.

00:46:12.860 Huh.

00:46:13.860 Okay.

00:46:14.860 I, not to interrupt everybody, but I want to know more about this guy.

00:46:17.860 Zero money.

00:46:18.860 Yeah.

00:46:19.860 Zero money.

00:46:20.860 Complete loser.

00:46:21.860 No house.

00:46:22.860 And is somehow so cool that you're like, get into my parents' house and let me buy you

00:46:25.860 things.

00:46:26.860 That's crazy.

00:46:27.860 And hundreds of DMs.

00:46:28.860 Yeah.

00:46:29.860 I was on one for sure.

00:46:30.860 So he has no house, no money, and he's hooking up with a hundred girls.

00:46:32.860 Usually those.

00:46:33.860 He sounds awesome.

00:46:34.860 Good for him.

00:46:35.860 Yeah.

00:46:36.860 I know.

00:46:37.860 He was a gentleman.

00:46:38.860 Yeah.

00:46:39.860 Usually it goes bad.

00:46:40.860 But he's a narcissist gentleman.

00:46:41.860 So he's, like, the WG narcissist.

00:46:43.860 You guys ask me.

00:46:44.860 I'm telling you.

00:46:45.860 Yeah.

00:46:46.860 Great.

00:46:47.860 Yeah.

00:46:48.860 But I'm glad to say it's in the past.

00:46:50.860 And fuck him.

00:46:51.860 Yeah.

00:46:52.860 But did your parents like him?

00:46:53.860 No.

00:46:54.860 No.

00:46:55.860 But they still took him in.

00:46:56.860 He was like, yeah, bro, come live with me.

00:46:58.860 Yeah.

00:46:59.860 I kind of.

00:47:00.860 Did he, like, fuck your mom as well?

00:47:02.860 No.

00:47:03.860 What?

00:47:04.860 No, we didn't go that far.

00:47:05.860 No.

00:47:06.860 Because if your parents don't like him.

00:47:07.860 He cheated on me with her, his dad's bridesmaid.

00:47:10.860 See?

00:47:11.860 And then bragged to me about it.

00:47:13.860 Told you.

00:47:14.860 For fucking a MILF.

00:47:15.860 So.

00:47:16.860 As she should.

00:47:17.860 That was nice.

00:47:18.860 Um.

00:47:19.860 Tried to slide in with a dwarf.

00:47:22.860 Hey, there's nothing wrong with that.

00:47:24.860 That's kind of hot, actually.

00:47:25.860 But she rejected him.

00:47:27.860 Really?

00:47:28.860 Yeah.

00:47:29.860 Nice.

00:47:30.860 Good for her.

00:47:31.860 Yeah.

00:47:32.860 Little victory.

00:47:33.860 He probably has a small house.

00:47:34.860 He doesn't want any.

00:47:35.860 Little victory.

00:47:36.860 Yeah.

00:47:37.860 Yeah.

00:47:38.860 He was a little man, too.

00:47:39.860 Oh, he was a little man as well.

00:47:40.860 Yeah.

00:47:41.860 Oh, they would have awesome children.

00:47:42.860 But I mean, had you guys had conversations, you'd only been dating a month, were there any

00:47:47.860 actually overt conversations about being monogamous?

00:47:51.860 Yes.

00:47:52.860 Or did you just assume?

00:47:53.860 No.

00:47:54.860 No, no, no, no.

00:47:55.860 No.

00:47:56.860 So it was like, hey, we're exclusive.

00:47:58.860 You are my boyfriend.

00:47:59.860 I am your girlfriend.

00:48:00.860 Okay.

00:48:01.860 Relationship.

00:48:02.860 An exclusive relationship.

00:48:03.860 Okay.

00:48:04.860 You're saying I love you?

00:48:05.860 Oh, yeah.

00:48:06.860 Immediately?

00:48:07.860 Not immediately, but...

00:48:08.860 Within a month is pretty immediately.

00:48:10.860 It's fast.

00:48:11.860 I don't know if it was within a month.

00:48:12.860 We started dating pretty fast.

00:48:14.860 So we moved in before the I love you.

00:48:15.860 Yeah.

00:48:16.860 Okay.

00:48:17.860 But I mean, I don't know.

00:48:18.860 Like, I'll take anyone, not anyone in, but I've taken friends in before.

00:48:22.860 Maybe you should wait a few months next time.

00:48:23.860 You know, it's not super serious in my mind.

00:48:26.860 Okay.

00:48:27.860 And he didn't have anywhere to go, was the thing.

00:48:29.860 You know, it wasn't like, oh, we're so locked in.

00:48:32.860 Let's move in together.

00:48:33.860 It was like, you're struggling and I want to help you.

00:48:35.860 And I love you.

00:48:36.860 So...

00:48:37.860 That's sweet, actually.

00:48:38.860 He didn't love him.

00:48:39.860 Was he your source of comfort at times?

00:48:41.860 At times, but...

00:48:42.860 Yeah.

00:48:43.860 ...then he became quite the opposite.

00:48:46.860 You have quite a good heart, I think you do.

00:48:48.860 Thank you.

00:48:49.860 I'm just shocked that the parents allowed this.

00:48:52.860 Yeah.

00:48:53.860 Maybe you should do what she's doing.

00:48:54.860 Yeah.

00:48:55.860 Just touch somebody's dick and let him wait three months.

00:48:57.860 Gosh.

00:48:58.860 It would be great.

00:48:59.860 Dating advice.

00:49:00.860 Yeah.

00:49:01.860 Oh, I had a question, but it slipped my mind.

00:49:03.860 So, okay.

00:49:04.860 He moved into your house.

00:49:06.860 And so you guys were...

00:49:09.860 This is the on again, off again one for like seven months or whatever.

00:49:13.860 And how he was living...

00:49:15.860 Oh, did your parents have to evict him?

00:49:18.860 No.

00:49:19.860 Or...

00:49:20.860 How did this go down?

00:49:22.860 Well, after he cheated, I was like, get the fuck out.

00:49:26.860 So, no.

00:49:27.860 My parents didn't really have any involvement in that, but...

00:49:30.860 He just dipped?

00:49:31.860 Yeah.

00:49:32.860 Well...

00:49:33.860 Okay.

00:49:34.860 That could have gone way worse.

00:49:35.860 Actually...

00:49:36.860 The funny thing is...

00:49:37.860 The funny thing is...

00:49:38.860 Technically, he legally had renter's rights and shit.

00:49:40.860 He broke up with me first.

00:49:41.860 And then I found out he cheated on me.

00:49:43.860 Oh, he broke up with you?

00:49:44.860 He left...

00:49:45.860 He broke up with me in his car.

00:49:47.860 No.

00:49:48.860 In my car.

00:49:49.860 And he left his phone in my car.

00:49:50.860 After he left.

00:49:51.860 Like...

00:49:52.860 Hey, albino.

00:49:53.860 That's right.

00:49:54.860 We're through.

00:49:55.860 Albino?

00:49:56.860 Sorry?

00:49:57.860 Albino.

00:49:58.860 Oh, I thought he called you albino.

00:49:59.860 No.

00:50:00.860 No, no, no.

00:50:01.860 Albino.

00:50:02.860 That's rude.

00:50:03.860 Yeah.

00:50:04.860 He's albino.

00:50:05.860 But then I got curious.

00:50:06.860 I'm like, what is this about?

00:50:07.860 This is out of nowhere.

00:50:08.860 And I had the password to his phone.

00:50:10.860 I'd actually never gone through it before.

00:50:12.860 And I...

00:50:13.860 Wow.

00:50:14.860 Did you ask him for that password to get it?

00:50:17.860 At one point, yeah.

00:50:19.860 But I'd never gone through it before.

00:50:22.860 What?

00:50:23.860 Did you think he was cheating then?

00:50:24.860 Is that why you wanted it in the first place?

00:50:26.860 I mean, you always suspected a little...

00:50:28.860 Do you?

00:50:29.860 You can tell when you can't trust in a relationship.

00:50:31.860 You feel it.

00:50:32.860 You feel it.

00:50:33.860 Everyone has trust issues.

00:50:34.860 Everyone's going to be a little paranoid.

00:50:36.860 And I was at times, but I tried not to snoop because I wanted to trust him.

00:50:40.860 And that's nice.

00:50:41.860 But it was like after...

00:50:42.860 How did that work happen?

00:50:43.860 It is.

00:50:44.860 It is nice to want to trust.

00:50:45.860 I guess we're broken up now, so who cares?

00:50:47.860 And...

00:50:48.860 Mike Davis donated $200.

00:50:50.860 Yo, thank you, Mike Davis.

00:50:51.860 Appreciate it.

00:50:52.860 Oh.

00:50:53.860 She always knew he was a narcissist tough boy, but she liked the bad boy and it was okay

00:50:58.860 until she became the victim.

00:51:00.860 But watch, she'll still go back to the midget if he slides in.

00:51:03.860 Dude.

00:51:04.860 You're entitled to your opinion, Mike Davis.

00:51:06.860 Wait, no.

00:51:07.860 He wasn't the midget.

00:51:08.860 It was...

00:51:09.860 No.

00:51:10.860 He was a bit of a midget as well.

00:51:11.860 He tried to...

00:51:12.860 How tall was he?

00:51:13.860 I think he said he was tall as well.

00:51:14.860 He was 5'5".

00:51:15.860 So that's what maybe you could consider within the realm of midget.

00:51:18.860 Dude, this guy is no money.

00:51:20.860 No house.

00:51:21.860 No house.

00:51:22.860 5'5".

00:51:23.860 And crushing it in the DMs.

00:51:25.860 What is going on?

00:51:27.860 At this point...

00:51:28.860 Can we see a photo of him?

00:51:29.860 Maybe he's funny.

00:51:30.860 Maybe he's funny.

00:51:31.860 He did have a face card.

00:51:32.860 He had a good face card.

00:51:33.860 Is he like Tom Cruise?

00:51:34.860 No.

00:51:35.860 Is he like funny?

00:51:36.860 Does he make you laugh?

00:51:37.860 He's charming.

00:51:38.860 Really?

00:51:39.860 No.

00:51:40.860 Maybe he's like very funny.

00:51:41.860 Wait, so was he also like...

00:51:43.860 Did you meet him at the boarding school too?

00:51:44.860 Was he kind of troubled you?

00:51:45.860 No.

00:51:46.860 No, no, no.

00:51:47.860 He's straight from Tinder.

00:51:48.860 Into the mic.

00:51:49.860 Oh, straight from Tinder.

00:51:50.860 Okay.

00:51:51.860 Is he drugs as well?

00:51:52.860 Oh, yeah.

00:51:53.860 Oh, yeah.

00:51:54.860 Was he a dealer?

00:51:55.860 Oh.

00:51:56.860 Hold on.

00:51:57.860 Going back to this.

00:51:58.860 You said that one of the things that landed you in boarding school was the use of certain

00:52:04.860 illicit powder.

00:52:06.860 Was there other drug use too?

00:52:08.860 Or...

00:52:09.860 At the time, for me...

00:52:10.860 Closer to the mic.

00:52:11.860 Into the mic.

00:52:12.860 Yeah.

00:52:13.860 At the time...

00:52:14.860 I don't...

00:52:15.860 Do I really want to go into this?

00:52:16.860 Yeah, go ahead.

00:52:17.860 All right.

00:52:18.860 Safe space.

00:52:19.860 I wasn't like hooked on anything, but I was doing stuff here and there.

00:52:23.860 Zans, cocaine, which was my downfall.

00:52:27.860 Downfall.

00:52:28.860 And I'm just curious, like you said your parents are still together.

00:52:31.860 Yeah.

00:52:32.860 They live in the same household.

00:52:33.860 Was the home life good?

00:52:35.860 Or you just got...

00:52:36.860 It's been rocky, but I actually have a really great relationship with both my parents now.

00:52:40.860 Yeah.

00:52:41.860 Because some people have good parents, but they get in with the wrong crowd.

00:52:43.860 No.

00:52:44.860 You know?

00:52:45.860 Yeah.

00:52:46.860 It was, I think, a lot of different things.

00:52:49.860 But...

00:52:50.860 Okay.

00:52:51.860 My household hasn't always been perfectly stable and healthy.

00:52:54.860 Sure.

00:52:55.860 Okay.

00:52:56.860 No.

00:52:57.860 So, in any case, you've been single for nine months?

00:53:00.860 Yes.

00:53:01.860 But have there been any guys in the picture during that nine-month period?

00:53:03.860 I did guys and girls.

00:53:05.860 Okay.

00:53:06.860 And...

00:53:07.860 Are you bi?

00:53:08.860 Yeah.

00:53:09.860 But I've had some, like, flings, hookups, situation kind of things.

00:53:13.860 Is there anybody in the picture?

00:53:14.860 But I haven't been serious with anyone.

00:53:15.860 Right now?

00:53:16.860 Right now?

00:53:17.860 A guy, a girl, a couple?

00:53:19.860 No.

00:53:20.860 Maybe.

00:53:21.860 Do you have a roster?

00:53:22.860 Not really.

00:53:23.860 Do you have a single person on the roster?

00:53:26.860 Kind of.

00:53:27.860 I kind of like to stick to one person.

00:53:30.860 Guy or girl?

00:53:31.860 Like, at the moment?

00:53:32.860 Yeah.

00:53:33.860 Yeah.

00:53:35.860 A transgender.

00:53:37.860 No.

00:53:38.860 What in the world?

00:53:39.860 What in the world?

00:53:40.860 It took so long to answer.

00:53:41.860 I was like, maybe it's transgender.

00:53:43.860 Is it a secret third thing?

00:53:45.860 I'm just...

00:53:46.860 You do not know who's a boy of a good life right now.

00:53:47.860 But you're currently talking to this person.

00:53:49.860 I don't even, like, have one specific person in mind.

00:53:52.860 I just...

00:53:53.860 Oh, there's multiple people then.

00:53:54.860 No.

00:53:55.860 Oh, my God.

00:53:56.860 Does he have, like, a personal disorder?

00:53:58.860 I don't know who's watching this.

00:53:59.860 I'm sorry.

00:54:00.860 What's that?

00:54:01.860 I don't know who's watching this right now.

00:54:02.860 So, I'm just trying to be careful with what I say.

00:54:04.860 You just amused.

00:54:05.860 I mean, you're...

00:54:06.860 So, I'm sorry if I'm being vague, but...

00:54:07.860 If you say you're being careful, anyone who's dating you watching this is saying, uh-oh.

00:54:09.860 I don't care about my ex.

00:54:11.860 He can hear all of this.

00:54:13.860 Oh, he's also a he.

00:54:14.860 He's also a man.

00:54:15.860 He's a man.

00:54:16.860 No, no, no.

00:54:17.860 I'm talking about the one I'm, like, through with.

00:54:19.860 Not the...

00:54:20.860 But you're dating one right now, right?

00:54:22.860 I'm not dating anyone right now.

00:54:24.860 I...

00:54:25.860 So, you've had carnal knowledge recently.

00:54:27.860 I've had what?

00:54:28.860 Carnal knowledge.

00:54:29.860 Carnal knowledge.

00:54:30.860 Carnal knowledge.

00:54:31.860 You've known someone biblically.

00:54:32.860 Biblically.

00:54:33.860 Carnal knowledge.

00:54:36.860 Smashing.

00:54:37.860 Okay.

00:54:38.860 P in the V.

00:54:39.860 Doing the huck two on his dick and stuff.

00:54:41.860 okay i'll say more of v in the v not p in the v oh v in the v wouldn't be more like well i guess

00:54:50.380 and v on the v yeah i'll work out as well as it does it should in theory all right that's cool

00:54:57.760 and um completely honestly but you get the point and then just going back to you really quickly

00:55:02.780 is there anybody currently in the picture at all somebody you're talking to

00:55:06.720 um i i actually did download hinge so like i'm on there um okay so there's a guy you're

00:55:19.540 going out on dates with or no one or anything like that no one in particular like i'm kind of

00:55:25.780 looking ish but like not okay seriously so there is a guy that you're seeing and there's not and

00:55:34.080 doing drugs no i'm kidding all right what about you oh i'm single right now and i think i've been

00:55:40.180 single for like a year and a half probably okay um and the longest relationship because i am pretty

00:55:44.720 young i feel like if you consider like my adult like serious relationships probably like six months ish

00:55:50.240 um which was like the one that ended like a year ago and he i found he was cheating on me with boys

00:55:56.340 um and transsexual women or yeah women and i'm fine with that i told him like i told him like

00:56:04.100 because i'm a i'm bisexual and i'm an open person and i'm down with that you can experiment as much

00:56:08.340 as you want and it's just you have to tell me right and i and i made that very clear and i i was not

00:56:14.260 expecting it at all but one night it was it was like the night after his birthday and i was looking i was

00:56:19.040 going to go send the pictures to myself but then i opened the phone to go um send the pictures to

00:56:24.600 myself and i see in the like recent apps grinder and so i'm like opening it and it's like an anonymous

00:56:29.740 profile and he's like texting all these people it's he he gets he gets a lot of people in there

00:56:35.460 there was like bing bing bing bing bing like so many but it i don't know how long it had gone on for

00:56:39.360 but he was like cheating with me with his exes too and i did not suspect it like i am we both trusted

00:56:45.260 each other a lot and i was like so into this man and this man was so like i don't know so

00:56:51.940 more fan donated two hundred dollars hot panel tonight all right jay more fan thank you man

00:56:57.940 appreciate it they're talking about you brian yeah i think so too okay sure but he was like so

00:57:04.640 into me and i would never expect like i was like we were from the day we met we would see each other

00:57:10.320 like every single day he's we were so clingy with each other because i'm a very clingy person even

00:57:14.940 though i do adult content and stuff i'm a super clingy person i'm a lover girl i'm not going to hook

00:57:19.820 up with somebody if i'm filming with somebody that's a little bit different i'm more looking

00:57:23.780 for someone in the adult industry so that we can both like be mutual because i'm not do you know

00:57:27.920 how many uh people he cheated on you with uh i know that he's met his ex-girlfriend because she sent

00:57:34.060 me pictures of him in like i bought him like this solid gold chain for his birthday yeah and there's

00:57:40.740 pictures of him in it in the picture so it's like i know that that's pretty good times and i was also

00:57:47.380 like the same thing you spending a lot of money on this man i'm like a sugar mama for all the men i

00:57:51.100 date did you get a chain back no i just let him keep it i just let him keep it i don't and you like

00:57:56.180 it a little bit too like what like spending yes i'm i like spending a mom i like submissive men i

00:58:01.680 like spending money on men oh my god can i date you can you be my sugar mommy i'm open to dating like

00:58:09.300 i guess i'm not i'm not the kind of girl that's like oh i want a big macho man i'm like

00:58:13.200 if you're just normal and natural and comfortable and it doesn't feel forced i'm not opposed to

00:58:18.440 anything like you can be one of those like men it's like oh i work with my hands i can like fix

00:58:22.780 cars all that i'm not opposed to that at all it's just that i don't want those guys it's like if you

00:58:27.700 have to tell me you're this like alpha bro it doesn't it's not natural it just you're telling me

00:58:32.660 i don't want the energy or you have it or you don't this tracks by the way that you're like i don't

00:58:38.080 like masculine men anyway my boyfriend had sex with like nine guys

00:58:42.140 wait yeah because you said you said you like i like i like submissive men i like whatever like

00:58:50.900 but did he ever like did you peg him no i have pegged men but i but not um not him not him wait

00:58:57.420 is he a top or a bottom he's the only one he was always a bottom like with the dudes with dudes

00:59:03.080 wait did you know he was bi no he he still won't admit it he tried yeah was he there what is a

00:59:08.560 bottom for a woman uh he just sits there and doesn't do anything it's kind of awesome that's

00:59:14.980 how i like it all these guys if the men when you were doing videos was he there as well when you

00:59:19.720 are backing other men was he there in the room as well like oh my god i want to have some of that

00:59:23.440 so i've been doing like i guess more professional stuff like this was a content trip for me um i've

00:59:27.960 been doing content trips because i'm in college i do it when i'm on school break but um back

00:59:32.860 then i was just filming with boyfriends girlfriend or yeah so i was just filming with him at the time

00:59:37.420 and he was fine with that he i didn't i took down all the videos with like prior uh partners and

00:59:42.680 stuff but it's new for me to film with like content creators and i am looking for like a partner that's

00:59:47.940 also in the industry because it creates a lot of issues i'll meet a guy i'll be like oh i really like

00:59:52.240 this guy but then it's like it comes down to it's like i'm not gonna break like stop my job for you

00:59:56.480 because it's like realistically i'm gonna date you for like six months because we're i'm 21 like

01:00:01.000 you know what i mean so it's not that big that deep for me to stop it and it's like i feel like

01:00:06.200 you shouldn't have to change yourself for a relationship you're coming into because i already

01:00:10.520 do adult content it's like i it's it's not that different but sure what what do you want out of

01:00:15.980 a committed relationship then if it's only six months like what's the what's your like goal

01:00:21.320 the goal for me is not to end at six months but it's like realistically speaking when you're 21

01:00:26.160 how long do your relationships last like i'm probably not going to marry the people i'm getting right

01:00:29.500 if you are going to run a 5k and you tell yourself i'm not going to win this you're probably not going

01:00:36.260 to win well i mean i go into it obviously being like i'm so crazy i mean i gotta be like i'm obsessed

01:00:41.740 with this man i love this man and i the intention of course is to date them for like a longer period

01:00:48.100 of time but like i really like this man i was spending so much money on him of course i was

01:00:52.040 intending on dating him and the night i went through his phone and i saw the grinder on there it's like

01:00:57.240 i did not expect that like my whole world was just like rocked because i was like devastated i did not

01:01:03.200 see him cheating sure i didn't expect that at all do you think your desire or your like mindset of

01:01:08.340 being like well realistically it's just a way to protect yourself because you fall deeply in love

01:01:12.640 with people and you desire intimacy and connection and you're like well they're going to leave me in

01:01:16.760 six months and i'll say that to myself and then it won't hurt as bad i feel like most of the

01:01:21.240 relationships i'm in i'm the one that leaves but it's because they did something like cheat on me or

01:01:25.820 something and it's like i can't like i can't stay with you and i honestly if he was if he just was

01:01:30.740 going if i just saw the grinder in his phone i would have stayed with him because i he has a lot

01:01:36.600 of i think some like sexual trauma where it's like i he still won't accept that he's bisexual

01:01:42.640 and i'm fine with that i'm fine with him being bisexual exploring that but i'm not okay with you

01:01:48.340 one not telling me and two like cheating on me with your ex that was the that was the extra thing

01:01:53.320 because i was finish up please but oh i was like oh like um it's okay like we can explore it but

01:02:00.100 then i saw the other girlfriend i she she sent me the pictures so quick question for the panel the

01:02:05.200 entire panel if you were to be cheated on would you prefer your boyfriend cheat on you with a woman

01:02:10.200 or with a man starting with you neither you got no you gotta have to choose you gotta pick um

01:02:18.240 probably a man also let me double let me uh double dare i don't know uh if he cheats with a woman

01:02:29.120 would you prefer that she's more attractive or less attractive than you if he cheats with a woman

01:02:35.820 yeah so would i prefer that she's more or less attractive yeah

01:02:39.340 i think everyone would prefer that she's less attractive right who knows what about you less

01:02:48.100 attractive preferably a man okay i prefer a woman and she can be prettier to me it's fine you'd prefer

01:02:55.680 that yes okay unattractive if it's a woman and a man if between the two because i'm very jealous

01:03:05.720 so you'd prefer the man okay what about you definitely less attractive woman but

01:03:15.140 also been cheated on with like everyone in the world what the other question what was the other

01:03:21.980 question you'd prefer if they cheat on you with a man or a woman oh honestly i a woman okay i'm less

01:03:31.120 attractive and then probably a man because then i feel like it's not something i did wrong they

01:03:34.840 they're not getting what they need from me because they want a man i would hope he cheated on me with

01:03:39.420 a man but i don't think i care if it's a more attractive woman i kind of hope that i walk in on

01:03:45.060 it and i get to see it yeah i saw that yeah i saw that i definitely prefer him to cheat on me with a

01:03:52.040 man because i'm very jealous and yeah that would destroy me and then she definitely can't be prettier

01:03:56.880 than me uh in the reverse i guess this is for the ladies but obviously i don't know in a world where

01:04:05.380 i'm a i'm a lady dating a man i would probably want him to cheat on me with a man i guess but if i was

01:04:10.420 dating a woman and she cheated on me uh it would be horrifically devastating either way but i guess

01:04:15.460 another woman sure because then i don't have to go to jail

01:04:18.480 nice um and then uh if she if uh she were to cheat on you with another man you prefer better

01:04:30.300 looking than you or worse looking um i would prefer better looking for sure because if she's slumming it

01:04:35.820 and then cheating on me with someone who's worse than like what what does that say about me but then

01:04:40.940 at least you have to be like she's nothing on me like at least that's not how it works you're

01:04:45.240 still taking there's nothing you're making the l feel better because i have to make myself feel

01:04:49.560 better my mind just cheated on me i need to be like at least you know but darling why though

01:04:53.400 why do you have to make an excuse for yourself to feel because i'm already gonna feel shit now

01:04:57.280 but who are you to judge about somebody else's appearance that's shitty as well i'm gonna feel

01:05:02.040 better that she's why why would you make an excuse for yourself just go to therapy get a drink

01:05:06.960 i i would feel better all right uh what about you um i would say a woman and more attractive

01:05:15.880 even though i am the jealous type just because if he if it's a man then there's a lot that he's

01:05:23.340 hiding from me that i didn't even know about in the relationship on top of him cheating

01:05:26.420 so yeah all right i just feel like he'd probably have been in denial so i'd understand more like

01:05:31.060 you were trying to just you know do what you were supposed to do and you can't hide it

01:05:35.560 relationship status i'm in a relationship i've been with my boyfriend for a year and two months

01:05:41.260 but it's not my longest relationship my longest relationship was two and a half years

01:05:45.140 all right cool what about you i am single at the moment um i feel like i'm really bad with

01:05:52.120 time stamps everyone's like one year and two months it's like over it yeah i'm like oh i don't

01:05:56.680 know what day it is today but yeah i've been single for like um a year over a year but um i was

01:06:02.500 like seeing someone not too long ago i feel like i'm always in situations whether it's just dating

01:06:06.920 or even just talking and i feel like it's a phone relationship like so intense um yeah so i feel

01:06:12.660 like i'm always like longest relationship i feel like my relationships are always like one year two

01:06:18.420 year so the longest was two years two years yeah okay shane what about you um my longest relationship

01:06:25.380 is three years i was married once uh yeah uh not a good idea on my part and i did not understand

01:06:31.880 what marriage was when i did it but um and then i am taken and i'm going to be kind of intentionally

01:06:37.120 vague about this because i have not one but several stalkers right now who are pretty wild

01:06:41.980 sure yeah that's fine it's unfortunate but it is what it is sure what about you i am married

01:06:49.300 and the longest relationship i've been in was six years was is well yeah so you're current that

01:06:59.300 yeah current husband yeah got it and uh when did you get married last october so you guys been married

01:07:06.800 like about a year yeah yeah yeah congrats all right and you were 21 when you got married um

01:07:13.080 i think so no 22 i think oh no no yes 21 21 21 okay 21 all right what about you brian yeah are you

01:07:22.700 single are you seeing anybody well much like shane because of uh stalker and threats to my

01:07:29.720 life i'm not disclosing right okay uh any sort of relationship details so um so it's hard out here

01:07:39.160 having a dating dude yeah i don't know people are crazy and by people i mean women on the internet

01:07:44.480 oh it's not just women for me but oh dude heck there's some weird but do you prefer men or women

01:07:50.260 oh i'm straight oh it's just a question no but when i was talking about men i was like there's male

01:07:56.780 stalkers yeah yeah they're they're all although it's mostly women yeah isn't that interesting how

01:08:01.700 you get the 100 dms a day type thing yes anyways um so uh let's see we got everybody's relationship

01:08:10.200 status i'm gonna read we have a one chat we got to read oh hold on bucky larson other than paying

01:08:17.040 less taxes i don't see any other benefits to marriage as a man ladies what do you bring to

01:08:21.400 the table to convince me and brian to get married we'll get into that in just a sec thank you bucky

01:08:25.780 larson for the message and i'm just gonna read this other one that just came through and then

01:08:29.680 we'll get back to bucky's question uh appreciate it man uh way off base the headline reads local man

01:08:36.480 robbed wendy's with an alligator i stopped and said out loud what did you just say to me

01:08:40.980 shane smith is funny as hell thank you oh by the way i've seen your stuff uh i've seen your stuff

01:08:46.760 before it's very funny man thank you i appreciate that and uh are you uh doing any shows here in

01:08:51.760 california while you're out here no i came out here as an excuse to surf and so i saw i was like i'm

01:08:59.160 gonna come to santa barbara and do some stuff yeah nice nice well salt lake uh i'm not from

01:09:05.660 salt lake but yeah i'm in utah we'll say that okay cool cool so by the way robert tanner thank

01:09:12.260 you for the gifted memberships i think you sent in 50 a little bit earlier man really appreciate it

01:09:17.140 back to bucky's question so he asked he doesn't see any benefits to marriage as a man ladies what

01:09:23.580 you bring to the table to convince me and brian to get married well one question before we get into

01:09:27.400 that uh just show of hands who here wants to get married show of hands so that's yes yes yes yes

01:09:34.740 that's everybody except you well you were already married so maybe you had a bad experience

01:09:39.260 uh and then who here wants to have kids one day no kids

01:09:45.380 okay all right was that a kind of no no i'm just putting it down in a weird way okay so um

01:09:53.820 and you you said you want to get married right yeah okay got it uh so bucky larson asks uh i guess

01:10:00.720 i'm kind of the soul man out here besides uh peachy peachy peachy uh don't want to get married

01:10:08.740 you guys do want to get married i'm ready for you guys to try to convince me

01:10:14.600 why i or other men should get married like any takers first of all i don't know why do i we have to

01:10:22.080 convince you to get married right if we have to convince you have to convince me then it's not

01:10:26.780 gonna work we're gonna get a divorce that's 100 the case you cannot be convinced to do something

01:10:31.980 you don't want to do you convince him to get married then he's committed to the idea now he

01:10:36.820 commits to so he changed his mind because i changed his mind permanently and then the relationship with

01:10:42.400 the woman and he commits to her so you're not convincing him to like walk down the aisle tonight

01:10:46.920 you're convincing him to acquire the mindset in order to get married and have a successful

01:10:52.200 marriage the only way i can see a hundred percent guaranteed commitment of a guy with a girl is if

01:10:58.080 i pay you a certain amount of money we have a legal document say if you cheat on me you're gonna lose

01:11:02.600 a toll or something then i think you're never gonna cheat and you're gonna be committed a hundred

01:11:06.740 percent i don't think that's how that works there are spies there are people who risk their lives to

01:11:12.680 betray the people who pay them money to like like there's men aren't motivated that way it's more

01:11:17.280 likely that a man cheat out of commitment than like some man like trying to like hunt him down in that

01:11:22.280 in your situation if that makes sense i'm so sorry i don't i don't know sorry i guess it never mind

01:11:26.780 yeah i just feel like that's the only way you can guarantee a man doesn't cheat that's the most

01:11:31.120 likely way how do you guarantee it physical bodily harm no no no no threatening him with signing a

01:11:37.580 contract contract legal binding and like monetary value because you cannot convince love i cannot

01:11:44.200 convince anybody to be committed to me but i can have a legal document say you cannot say this shit

01:11:49.080 you cannot do this shit you cannot touch another woman that is more bounding and more likely to

01:11:53.480 find a good person that's true but they want me to convince them i don't know if they're a good

01:11:59.320 person or not your plan has flaws i for the first entire half of my life i broke the law for a living

01:12:06.380 like no one a contract isn't going to make a guy obey the prison is full of people right now they do

01:12:12.180 not care about contracts let me ask you a question if you don't want to marry this girl and she wants

01:12:16.900 to convince you to marry her is it more likely that you cheat on her or is it more likely that you you

01:12:23.100 betray the contract in this scenario where you you just proposed i agree that man shouldn't you should

01:12:29.620 just not be together yeah exactly so but there's a question phrase that we need to convince these two

01:12:34.520 people then these two people are not in love with oh oh no no the question isn't to convince them to

01:12:39.000 marry each other or for bucky to marry brian which would be awesome but uh it's it's to convince brian

01:12:45.100 of the cons that the concept of marriage is good and he should be open to it that it's about more

01:12:51.220 than just taxes like yeah why would he be open to marriage why is it such a wonderful idea to get

01:12:56.680 like peachy why don't you want to get married yeah i am not so cynical that i say i will never get

01:13:03.580 married again i have been burned i will go into it with a lot more thought so when next time around

01:13:13.580 do you there are you open to a relationship question whatsoever am i i yeah i want to find like

01:13:22.040 my soulmate sure so you are looking for the man you want to marry you're just saying that it's like

01:13:27.760 that you have incredibly high i would be very hesitant i would need to like just wholeheartedly

01:13:33.400 believe that this is the one this is like meant to be yeah but that's but you desire to me that you

01:13:40.520 want to have yes so you do want to get married you just you just want prince charming to do it which

01:13:45.300 is fair that's fair i wouldn't be able to like convince someone because i don't even understand all

01:13:50.660 the rules and what everything would mean and that but i just think it would be so nice to meet

01:13:54.220 someone we adore each other so much we just want to do everything that's possible have kids get

01:13:58.440 married like my mom and dad have been married for like 36 years and i think it's the best thing in

01:14:02.600 the world and i think you just have to naturally want that with me i can't tell you oh no because

01:14:06.840 if you marry me then this and that i don't even know yeah that's my point like you can have

01:14:10.840 convictions yeah why don't you want to get married i'm just curious yo robert tanner thank you for the

01:14:17.360 gifted 50 memberships man really appreciate it good to see you in the chat uh so why don't i want to

01:14:22.580 get married well i guess let me lay it out like this so my view is absent some both partners having

01:14:31.180 a religious worldview be it christian or muslim or jewish or whatever it is i actually don't see

01:14:38.760 from the secular viewpoint actually any reasons at least from the male perspective and i suppose it's

01:14:46.780 not even so much the male perspective as it is the breadwinner perspective i can't i don't actually

01:14:52.280 see any reason to get married like if anybody can make an actual secular argument and i don't i'm

01:15:00.080 not sure this is a super christian panel to begin with but i can't think of any actual benefits to the

01:15:05.860 man or to the breadwinner when it comes to getting married at least that outweigh the risks so for me

01:15:13.720 personally there's nothing that i can get in a marriage from a woman that i can't get in a monogamous

01:15:20.640 long-term relationship yeah i have a hot take i think might change wait hold on let's let her

01:15:25.320 answer then i'll let you go sorry i'm just gonna say so have it's follow-up question actually have

01:15:30.760 you ever been in love before sure yeah okay yeah let's say everything was fine and dandy with that

01:15:37.860 relationship you wouldn't want to be married with that person even though you were in love with them

01:15:41.320 until this day well i'm not sure that's really uh i don't know if that's really an argument like

01:15:48.740 you love them thus you must marry them but if she wants to be good enough compared to like because i

01:15:54.680 mean something that i think about is if you're not committing to marriage you're open to other

01:15:58.700 options right well aren't you open to other options even if you're married of course yeah okay

01:16:05.040 so i mean marriage does not preclude one from infidelity no what about uh ritual marriage your

01:16:12.140 issue is legal marriage what if you were with a woman you loved and she said no papers but let's

01:16:16.600 go have a priest or like a guy or someone marry us well i would have to actually investigate what

01:16:26.200 the law actually says to that would there even though it's not through the state are there any legal

01:16:31.140 implications to even getting a purely ritual marriage if not it's perhaps a little more enticing

01:16:37.180 but then i um i still don't really see the point yeah there's data that shows men who are married like

01:16:48.240 live longer have better outcomes long term and are healthier but i don't i can't like say that that

01:16:54.360 doesn't also apply to a long-term very committed monogamous secular relationship why is everybody so

01:16:59.640 kind of the cheating stuff i hear everybody say you know we have to have a contract you have to do

01:17:04.820 this and this isn't marriage about a wonderful loving commitment like the man is the man like

01:17:10.800 typical speaking you are the man of the household it's like what you're saying very manly the woman

01:17:15.900 is in her feminine state together you get married you have such a wonderful pact together such a

01:17:20.740 wonderful lovely powerful thing you can give that on to your children you can be the woman you can be

01:17:27.660 the man you can still be the breadwinner but just like out of love why is everybody here so afraid

01:17:31.700 oh no yes i have a contract for cheating and stuff if a person wants to cheat he's going to cheat

01:17:36.540 sure yes but i think marriage should be about love and everything that's wonderful what's your point

01:17:41.420 your argument usually is you can get most of what you can get in a marriage outside of a marriage

01:17:45.560 correct i want to bring this to the table and it's probably a crazy thought but i think men

01:17:51.020 in a marriage should have reproductive rights if you if you actually get married legally you should

01:17:57.260 be able to have a say on whether or not your wife can get an abortion or not i don't think it should

01:18:01.360 be like you can just decree she can't or not again but you should it should be more of a conversation

01:18:06.260 you should have rights well i mean i so in this hypothetical scenario where but i mean that's not

01:18:15.220 an argument that really doesn't pertain to the well no no hold on that doesn't pertain to the

01:18:20.320 conversation at all because that's not the law as it's fair so in a marriage a woman should just be

01:18:25.260 my slave legally but that's not the case i'm not that's not what i'm advocating for but that's not

01:18:31.560 how it is can i don't see how it pertains but i do believe what you're saying i believe that a man

01:18:38.240 should lead in a marriage i don't know but i i'm more so making a criticism of yeah she's saying

01:18:44.580 well men should have this right in a marriage but they don't and quite frankly they never will have

01:18:51.520 that so it's kind of like yeah wishful thinking but if it wasn't can i convince you for me well but

01:18:58.260 okay so you're saying the the wife she wants to get an abortion but i don't want her to yeah you'd

01:19:04.940 have more of a right to be able to wouldn't that be such a mismatch of values that that would not

01:19:09.460 be the type of woman for me to yeah i guess i just think of the scenario of when a woman's like

01:19:13.460 yeah i'm ready to have a kid and then they get scared after getting pregnant and they freak out and

01:19:17.960 make a rash judgment so if you're as a man if you're pro-life and the woman is pro-choice that's

01:19:24.240 just an immediate mismatch of that's of values so i don't think that it would even work in the

01:19:29.780 i appreciate what you're saying but i think that in practice it is kind of like inter i don't think

01:19:35.100 that would be it'd be a whole ordeal for sure yeah but uh go ahead so um you said that you can get all

01:19:42.120 the benefits without the marriage it may be true and if it's true what essentially you're saying is

01:19:47.700 you're selfish you're not willing to give out any part of you for a woman because you can get all the

01:19:52.360 benefit but marriage might be a financial security and legal security for this woman so this is exactly

01:19:59.140 why i say you cannot convince you we can never convince you because fundamentally if you're

01:20:04.300 selfish i can't convince you to do something unless there's a value i'm providing you with which is

01:20:09.060 some kind of contract or money or let's say i'm a billionaire and you really want to be

01:20:13.900 like a 500 this is a hypothetical situation then i'm like oh we're dating and i'm like okay you have

01:20:21.000 to marry me in order to get certain things then i think i could convince you but if you just if you

01:20:26.640 can get all the benefits without marriage why would you do it that it's against human nature and it's

01:20:30.640 not possible why do you think it's selfish if a man doesn't want to get married why is that self

01:20:35.920 no i don't think he's protecting himself maybe he's just still a very good provider he will still take

01:20:41.440 care of your children he will still be there he will take care of everything why is that selfish if

01:20:46.120 the girl wants to and he doesn't want to isn't that selfish from the girl because he's pressing him

01:20:51.180 if he's still a good provider for the children at home isn't that selfish of the woman to pressure

01:20:57.180 him you say it's selfish of the man if he doesn't want to but isn't that selfish of a woman to say

01:21:01.820 i want it otherwise i will leave you it's like a threat right it's not not fair it's also a little

01:21:06.120 bit selfish it is but we're trying to convince him right like the question is how to convince him

01:21:12.920 you have to be fair you have to be fair i'll actually and i'll get you in just a sec i'll

01:21:17.620 actually say would i marry a female billionaire without a uh what's it called that's the scenario

01:21:25.280 in which i'll get married that's like a way to convince you right if someone wants that she's a

01:21:31.020 billionaire i will marry her yeah to address your concern it's okay to be selfish i'm not saying like

01:21:35.700 oh you're selfish and it's wrong i'm we're i'm talking about the topic of convincing right i'm just

01:21:40.700 saying this is the way to convince someone who think of his own interests and there's no good or

01:21:45.360 bad there's no judgment on that but do you not think it's a little dangerous because you say i

01:21:50.420 want to have a contract when i have everything i want to have like a prenup thing if i married a

01:21:54.380 billionaire where's the love then because you will only get married if there's a contract thing why is

01:21:59.580 it not the beautiful way why it's always i have to provide you this and this and that and that's

01:22:04.580 why i want to get married because i'm saying this is the way i will use to convince him to get

01:22:08.880 married not that i'm saying this is the best way i'm not saying it's good to convince someone to

01:22:13.560 get married but the question is how would you convince someone do you understand my point but

01:22:17.440 why do you want to right like i think i might have something that before i have you go you had

01:22:22.960 something go ahead yeah so um the way you're framing this question almost is like why should i get

01:22:30.080 married if it doesn't serve me in any way and ultimately like it doesn't change anything about

01:22:35.520 my relationship to this person i've been seeing long term or feel in love with my question would

01:22:41.440 be what's the harm if you're saying it doesn't really change anything anyway why are you scared

01:22:47.520 to get married how is that is that a money thing well that's not what i'm saying i there are risks when

01:22:53.740 it comes to getting married yes there are and so that's my objection to it but i'm asking you i guess

01:22:59.020 what are those risks that you perceive so there's a couple so there's uh one untangling a marriage is

01:23:08.420 complicated so from the financial aspect uh not just what the the woman ends up getting out but

01:23:14.880 the legal costs in and in and of themselves are going to be fairly substantial uh attorneys charge quite

01:23:22.720 a bit if you're the breadwinner you're going to actually have to probably go ahead and pay for her

01:23:27.500 reasonable man donated my chinese wife says the value in marriages the strength and security i

01:23:35.100 provide money and the rest is meaningless lot of broken thoughts on this panel be better

01:23:41.880 okay thank you appreciate it appreciate it unreasonable wait is this grid one is this grid one

01:23:50.900 how do you have security without money you said that money is meaningless how can like that's that's

01:23:58.800 a very stupid point that's a question for you unreasonable man so the financial risks you have to pay for

01:24:04.240 the attorney uh you might have to even pay for your wife or soon-to-be ex-wife's attorney if you know

01:24:10.240 there's a mismatch in your her financial resources and yours uh there's the time the stress of

01:24:17.260 untangling all that and then there's going to be what she's owed right so uh anything even with

01:24:24.400 prenuptial agreement often these prenuptial agreement uh agreements tend to get challenged

01:24:29.260 by the person uh typically the woman who's initiated who's typically also initiating the divorce funnily

01:24:35.560 enough um so for example kevin costner uh he actually his divorce proceedings were here in santa barbara

01:24:41.600 he had a prenuptial agreement with his wife and in the prenuptial agreement it said if you challenge

01:24:47.760 the prenuptial agreement you lose xyz and then she went ahead and challenged it anyways uh so even with

01:24:54.000 like uh potential risks of challenging the prenuptial the lawyers will still do it because they can maybe

01:24:59.220 try to weasel out of it whatever uh even with a prenuptial agreement it typically only has to do with

01:25:04.220 assets or money that you got before the marriage but everything you got during the marriage really can't be

01:25:10.140 as far as i know i could be wrong not an attorney this is just from my research prenuptial agreements

01:25:16.500 can't really do much when it comes to what's earned during the course of the marriage so if you've been

01:25:21.100 married 5 10 20 years for example uh everything that's earned in the marriage is commute community

01:25:26.660 property so then she's just going to get half of everything earned throughout the course of the

01:25:32.140 marriage uh i think that this actually will lead to a marriage can actually lead to a greater

01:25:38.880 likelihood of the breakdown of the relationship because if she's just dating you and she breaks

01:25:44.880 up then she potentially loses any of those benefits that she has from dating you but if she breaks up

01:25:50.340 with you and she's like oh now there's a financial incentive to break up with you i'm gonna get x amount

01:25:54.860 of money then it's actually like pushing her towards ending and ending the relationship so uh for those

01:26:04.320 sorry that's pretty much i really i really agree with you i want to say that i watched this soft white

01:26:09.360 underbelly interview with this divorce lawyer about all the advice he's giving and it is true that

01:26:13.900 getting married is an event that is most likely to cause distraught and harm in the relationship

01:26:19.120 and the benefit and uh no one motorsports donated two hundred dollars yes that was me sorry streamlapse

01:26:28.040 got me men provide security be a incapable and competent even when i was not well off my wife was

01:26:35.160 not concerned because she had faith in my ability to provide yeah great one thank you man appreciate it

01:26:41.400 this is exactly what i was saying if you have a man who still take care of your children provide in

01:26:46.280 every way is marriage not really necessary sorry uh security isn't him having money it's him not leaving

01:26:52.520 you when you both have no money yeah comment meant emotional security yeah just to kind of continue

01:26:58.920 with the point i was making for the so i think i agree with you because like i think half the marriage

01:27:04.360 and in divorce and among the half that's not divorced most of them are unhappy so it's like actually it's

01:27:11.480 better off if we don't get married that's true but i do want to get married i think it's just like a

01:27:16.120 personal thing sure i did have one thing to say sorry i'm so sorry just one last thing that's why

01:27:21.160 i was addressing to you i'm like i also have the selfish desire to not get married also so i'm not

01:27:26.680 saying it's good or bad to be selfish in like we want yeah yeah yeah yeah what's your thing i um

01:27:34.600 i have been through this um experiencing times where like being married especially in the military you

01:27:42.440 can't live with them unless you're married um and there's a lot of like

01:27:48.760 legal issues with that like if you are not in a legal marriage the government doesn't see them as

01:27:56.280 like an extension of you you can have trouble with like power of attorney stuff and like you know

01:28:03.320 finances like i wouldn't be able to if i was not married to my ex-husband i would not be able to call

01:28:09.160 his bank and say hey i need so-and-so unless i'm married legally is he still in the marines no oh

01:28:18.200 okay i was like you talking about his infidelity it's illegal isn't it can't he be court-martialed

01:28:23.400 they they can yeah but yeah okay it's illegal to cheat if you're in the military yeah you have to be

01:28:28.520 really yeah that's great isn't it the chain of command usually tries to

01:28:33.960 yeah okay back them uh wrath psa says to the first lady the marriage that didn't work out he was

01:28:39.480 alliance wasn't he probably a gnome mage oh gosh no mage that's funny um i don't think he was cool

01:28:47.640 enough to play well oh okay we have a chat here from bilium the mars hey thank you man for the soup

01:28:53.880 chat the bible tells men to only get married to a woman if they are struggling with sexual immorality

01:29:01.000 read one corinthians seven one nine i don't think that's real at all i don't think that's real

01:29:12.680 uh bilium the mars thank you giovanni is that shane smith finally some catholic representation

01:29:17.080 purge the heretics brother nice that's funny all right giovanni appreciate it man um oh we got the

01:29:23.240 oh loose energy donated two hundred dollars brian walmart adam 32 is embarrassing himself

01:29:31.240 marriage is a total l 304s initiate 80 percent of divorces and most guys lose all their

01:29:37.880 shit i ain't i ain't fucking losing mine kiss my ass fuck y'all bishes

01:29:47.480 where you been bro lp where you been shoot me a dm on instagram or discord lp shoot me a dm on

01:29:53.240 instagram or discord we have another chat coming in here real quick we've got grid one grid one

01:29:57.800 motorsports donated two hundred dollars and one cent thank you man give me a call when you get a chance

01:30:03.560 tomorrow okay and just because it seems relative how many of the panelists are feminist do not be

01:30:09.800 shy the patriarchy is here to help yeah we'll ask that really quick actually last thing on the marriage

01:30:15.400 thing then we'll move it on to this uh and some other topics going around the table if uh when you

01:30:20.760 do get married are you going to take your uh husband's last name are you going to hyphenate it

01:30:25.960 it doesn't matter to me yes no you'll take you'll take his last name well it depends on the name

01:30:33.640 that makes sense let's say it's a terrible last name but he's like i want you i don't know but

01:30:39.000 he's like i want you to take my last name no ifs ands or buts how's it sadistic because like what if

01:30:45.800 your name is like doofenshmirtz what's wrong with that take my name even though it sounds just

01:30:51.800 like stupid yeah so what would your solution be well if it's a bad name he takes yours create

01:30:57.880 our own hyphen some people are mixing it should be the superior last name

01:31:05.400 that's fairly subjective the coolest sounding last name i see how they could descend into some

01:31:10.200 kind of like racist thing okay okay um what about you i'm keeping mine you're keeping yours my mom

01:31:21.240 kept hers i'll keep mine okay what about you same with my family i mean i'm not opposed to taking

01:31:25.400 the last name if it's really bad i have kind of a weird like my real name is kind of weird so if it

01:31:29.720 if it didn't go well i might keep it and most of the women in my family do keep their last names but

01:31:35.160 if it's a man that's telling me like i'm not gonna marry you if you're not taking my last name then i'm

01:31:39.400 not gonna be with you like that if it's that big of a deal i think that like i should be able to keep

01:31:44.200 it if i want to okay i love my initials but i'm gonna take his last name

01:31:48.600 i love my name so much i've literally got it i've got it tattooed on me

01:31:53.480 kofi and my family are the best family in the world i would definitely want to put both of our

01:31:58.120 names and anyone i've ever dated they would be proud to be a kofi okay we'll have both of our

01:32:02.920 names shane what about you i will be keeping my own last name thank you very much but that's so

01:32:07.800 like no i wouldn't i wouldn't marry someone who wouldn't take my name yeah there's no way uh you're

01:32:12.520 married what was the um definitely me taking his name you took his last name and can i say a couple

01:32:18.040 of things before we move on to the next topic or do you just is it related to the last name thing

01:32:21.560 or more to about the whole marriage in general okay hold it for now but i'll let you okay i'm just

01:32:28.520 confused with this whole last name thing so marriage is sort of i mean it's changed a bit

01:32:34.680 but it's a traditional thing so i'm like do you guys for example those of you who said you want to

01:32:40.360 like if the last name's not great or you're like for sure gonna keep your last name whatever

01:32:45.160 or you have hesitations about taking his do you want him to get down on one knee to propose

01:32:52.760 do you want him to propose period i'm i don't know let's start over here um

01:32:58.520 do i want him to propose if i don't want his last name no just in general do i want do i want a guy to

01:33:06.600 propose you want him to propose as opposed to you proposing well i would prefer if like i had the

01:33:13.160 kind of option but like i feel like well of course you have no no yeah no of course i just feel like

01:33:21.320 um it's like traditionally you know so i mean but i don't really care yeah what what else is

01:33:29.480 traditional about marriage that it's usually involved with the church no but you said traditionally

01:33:36.040 the man will like be the one who proposes right yeah yeah like in the culture okay yeah what else

01:33:42.680 is traditional when it comes to marriage um i would say having kids it's traditional what else is

01:33:51.000 traditional um the dress going taking the name yeah yeah so okay what about you do you want a guy to do

01:34:01.000 be i say f the norms i could get down on my knee he could get down on his knee she could get down on

01:34:06.760 her knee i don't care but um yeah your argument is that you know i'm saying i'm a proponent for

01:34:13.640 marriage i want to get marriage and that's a traditional practice in itself yeah well i kind

01:34:19.320 of don't view it that way which we don't have to get into but you don't view marriage as a traditional

01:34:24.680 thing well no i do but like in my mind i'd marry somebody because it's a it's me showing my

01:34:34.520 commitment to them you know like without all the financial stuff and all of that like it's

01:34:43.640 i view it kind of as a gesture what is what are you what is what are you bringing in order to show

01:34:51.080 the commitment because you don't take their last name and and you're not like into the the traditions

01:34:56.360 or whatever so what is it exactly that you're well you talk about how there's all these risks in

01:35:01.800 marriage with losing money and different things if there's divorce well not necessarily for men you

01:35:07.160 said the breadwinner that would be the woman whoever it is there's still risks on both sides both people

01:35:13.080 can get hurt both people can lose material things and by willing to take those risks that's showing

01:35:20.920 your commitment to each other and i i just want to be able to call somebody my partner one day

01:35:26.600 you can call your non-married person your partner wife or husband and not be lying you can still

01:35:32.920 call them that can i though yeah sure yeah okay well you could if you think so but um that's my opinion

01:35:41.240 but what is it i mean couldn't you just make the reverse argument that a woman who's willing to stay

01:35:46.440 with a guy despite her uh her desire to get married but she's willing to commit to him despite his

01:35:54.600 unwillingness to get married isn't you can just make the same argument she's showing a greater commitment

01:35:59.480 to him i'm willing to commit to you i'm willing to commit to you despite this thing that i want

01:36:08.440 because i want to be with you enough that i don't need that isn't that a commitment

01:36:12.920 i yeah that's yeah you had something and then i'm going to move it on from the marriage stuff go

01:36:18.040 ahead um i was just going to say that i think just the general marriage topic of in general um

01:36:26.920 i think it is a really big deal um i don't think that it's not just a like oh you can just you know

01:36:32.920 be with people and not be married when you are choosing to be married you're choosing to get the

01:36:37.560 family involved you're choosing to get legal with this stuff you know you're saying you're supposed to be

01:36:42.360 submissive to each other and i think taking that leap kind of shows hey men wait men are supposed

01:36:46.760 to be submissive to their lives like each other like you both are like humble with each other you

01:36:51.560 both listen to another you respect each other you believe that i don't even know if that biblically

01:36:56.600 that's correct are you religious not really men are supposed to self-sacrifice you want to be equal

01:37:02.920 i don't think men are supposed to be it's not submissiveness it's it's a willingness

01:37:06.840 i'll say that a willingness um it's a willingness on both sides and it's just a huge leap to say hey

01:37:18.040 i'm serious about this because if you're if you think about it if you're with somebody boyfriend

01:37:22.200 girlfriend you've been together for let's say 10 years living together everything you're involved

01:37:25.240 with the family you can just get up and leave like you can just be like um okay and that i don't

01:37:32.280 know to me it's kind of a red flag when someone says they don't want marriage because they're not

01:37:35.400 willing to take that extra leap to actually determine well but here's the thing so you said

01:37:39.960 that if you've been dating for 10 years the person can just get up and leave well hold on you can do

01:37:46.200 that exact same thing if you're married you have to go through and i mean so basically it's we are

01:37:52.200 staying together under threat of lawsuit isn't that a terrible reason to stay together with somebody

01:37:58.120 yeah but when you're getting sorry no go ahead yeah no you can i was just gonna say when you are

01:38:02.920 choosing to marry somebody you go in with that idea already that you know what you're getting

01:38:06.440 yourself into you know what i mean well i think a lot of people are actually naive and they don't know

01:38:11.160 the financial ramifications they don't it's very it's actually very easy to get married it's much more

01:38:18.680 complicated to get divorced yes that's true you can go to the courthouse i think i don't know if you need

01:38:25.640 witnesses or signatures you can do that instantly to unwind that is a much more lengthy and expensive

01:38:32.760 process right but who wants a marriage that's just like oh let's go over there sure i mean it's

01:38:37.960 probably there's a little more thought that's put into it but the actual process is a bit more

01:38:42.440 simplified uh but i mean getting a divorce is very easy all in the sense that i mean it's it's

01:38:48.520 complicated but like it's easy in the sense that you can just go do it yeah just nothing's stopping you

01:38:57.640 from doing it there's just extra steps i would say that you really have to come well i would rather

01:39:03.640 like if my girlfriend wants to break up with me and she wants to break up with me i'd rather just

01:39:09.800 later yeah i don't want you to like oh man i gotta do extra work to break up with them i guess i'll stay

01:39:15.960 with them nah if you're not about me that's why like if a girl ever threatens a breakup to try to get

01:39:21.240 like some like uh if there's something a problem in the relationship we can have a conversation about

01:39:27.080 it the minute a girl starts threatening breakups and that it's over yeah i don't play that where

01:39:32.600 we're gonna be like on and off again you're gonna threaten that person well we can have a conversation

01:39:38.600 about the issue but if you're using a breakup as leverage yeah later imagine this you married a

01:39:44.760 girl you got her pregnant she had a baby and then you cheated on her with another woman three months

01:39:49.880 let's let's do the ariana case you don't know what happened and then this man is a piece of

01:39:54.840 shit doesn't want to give any child support can just leave without any legal document so those women

01:40:00.840 have a baby because she is in during her like uh leave so she doesn't have any pay and then she

01:40:06.840 loses his job her she lose her job and then she's just all alone this man is giving her not no security

01:40:11.880 but if they're married the things will be different no well it's okay hold on you're bringing the

01:40:15.800 children thing into this so whether you're married or not the amount of child support a woman can

01:40:20.760 receive is irrelevant to whether they're married or not so for example if a man's income is a certain

01:40:26.040 amount or whatever and they're married okay or they're not married oh it's the same she'll get

01:40:31.160 the same amount of child support okay exact same yeah so but what's different though like the money that

01:40:37.240 you made during the marriage well if they were married and the relationship ends depending on the

01:40:42.040 the length of the marriage she could be she could get uh community property you know earnings that

01:40:48.440 were accrued during the marriage and then potentially alimony depending on how long they were married

01:40:53.080 oh okay so if you're a dad it's like your job to pay yeah i didn't know that child support child

01:40:58.920 support you don't need to be married for the woman yeah the government will garnish your wages they'll just

01:41:04.120 take the money from you and give it to her yeah i see okay that's good that's one more thing yeah

01:41:08.360 sure um when you get married you don't have an end in mind when you're just dating somebody it's

01:41:13.240 a possible 50 50 that you have an end in mind do you know what i'm talking about

01:41:18.600 nah you can still get out of the marriage there's always yeah i think if you're in the right

01:41:23.560 relationship you don't have that in mind you just don't no matter what situation you're in married or

01:41:28.200 not i think that there's an intangible quality to marriage where it deepens intimacy the same way

01:41:33.880 where you're like oh hey don't sleep with other people we're official and that person becomes your

01:41:38.360 girlfriend or whatever and then there's a sort of strengthening of your bond i think

01:41:42.120 maybe women feel that in marriage more and that's why men are so like hesitant to it but

01:41:47.320 i mean that would be my argument it's not money or any of these other things it's like an intangible

01:41:51.960 sort of intimacy that deepens the relationship further that you're looking for but maybe you're

01:41:56.200 not looking for that but it when you're talking about that is that it deepens it further for the

01:42:01.880 more so for the woman as compared to the man it's in the relationship as a whole

01:42:07.160 i almost wonder because don't don't you also shane don't you also hear these stories of

01:42:11.800 guys who do get married and then things start to change yeah worse yeah yeah one motorsports donated

01:42:18.120 two hundred dollars and one cent imagine being married for ten years and just deciding to leave

01:42:24.200 and abandon your relationship which is a sin and the wages of sin are eternal damnation to hell

01:42:30.200 seems a legit trade-off i don't believe in that wait you don't believe in no i don't oh i do

01:42:38.280 well you're cat yeah yeah you can't get divorced right no we can't get divorced and even my first

01:42:43.640 marriage which was when i was a secular prometheus 73 donated two hundred dollars yeah thank you

01:42:49.560 for me if you want your man to get down on one knee will you bow for your man i'll show the video

01:42:54.680 brian show the video okay hashtag don't get married i'll pull it up in a sec thank you man

01:42:59.960 appreciate it uh go ahead oh oh yeah i mean in uh when i first got married i was like a secular person

01:43:06.040 and same thing to you i was like i don't understand the benefits of this i don't care about religion i

01:43:10.680 don't believe in god and at the time i just did it to make her happy which was the worst thing i could

01:43:15.160 do obviously that's you know been annulled and whatever the catholic church handles that in a certain

01:43:20.680 way but yes i believe when you get married you can never get divorced which is you know raises the

01:43:26.120 stakes and makes it a much more intimate act between you god your community and your families

01:43:30.680 i think it's crazy that you can get married at 18 yeah you can get married before 18 actually stop

01:43:36.920 yeah yeah parent permission what yeah not do that in the netland so

01:43:42.920 you could join the army when you're 17 baby who all right what are we doing you know we got robert

01:43:47.160 tanner here hey thank you for the message man appreciate it and thank you uh grid one and

01:43:50.680 prometheus too thank you guys discord gives a seven out of ten right now also someone mentioned turn

01:43:55.960 your stove off lol wait what also taking a last name was part of coverture it was a protection for men

01:44:04.280 and women protection interesting uh thank you robert tanner really appreciate it man um

01:44:11.720 um oh the bow video uh nick can we get the bow video going okay is this gonna be a bummer no

01:44:22.040 this is kind of like what i think like this first part here is would make for a good relationship

01:44:28.680 boom huge bow i think i think i think i think the the lady the woman should uh hit the man with the

01:44:35.720 bow with uh you know i prefer a curtsy we need wait hold on we need isis for this segment she's gonna

01:44:43.240 have thoughts on this she's gonna have strong thoughts we'll we'll wait for isis is she just

01:44:48.840 weren't she it's interesting oh no she is wait are you watching it isis no okay we'll play the bow one

01:44:54.840 more time and then uh okay i don't like that she's gonna watch him eat that's a bit intense that's

01:45:03.160 right it's just like does it taste it's like when someone watches you open a present you're like

01:45:08.200 don't look at me i actually love this though i actually love this here nick just the bow segment

01:45:13.000 so this is uh it's for isis so go ahead play it yeah you're gonna you missed it oh boom huge bow let

01:45:20.760 it play for a few sex huge okay cool um what about it yeah so uh of somebody sent in the super chat

01:45:30.200 asking uh if you would bow for your man going around the table would you would you bow for your

01:45:35.960 man i would bow for my man okay how much would you pay nothing then no no no you wouldn't bow for

01:45:44.760 this guy you've been dating for three months no if i'm not getting anything i don't want to do it

01:45:49.240 then what do you need to get for something i want like money yeah money is one jewelry is one

01:45:54.600 one orgasm is one whatever we want you know okay wait i'm a little confused because actually we'll

01:46:00.600 pull this up a little bit we'll pull it up later go yeah yes i will do that i will also do a courtesy

01:46:06.680 i will be on my knees for this man if he's providing he's like the man in the house protective

01:46:11.960 safe take care of the children yes okay yes if he deserves it and also i have an argument for

01:46:19.400 or or against what was the question before what's your tattoo saying again press gaibu almost see

01:46:30.200 there it is we're press gaibu-ing all over the place yes uh you have an argument

01:46:34.920 oh sorry the marriage what is it okay so well it's not really for men like it's for women and um

01:46:46.520 um i feel like women have more of a risk or in in not in marriage but in regular dating because

01:46:57.320 like we were talking about actually i don't know if the live started when we were talking about this

01:47:02.760 but we were talking about women and estrogen or not estrogen sorry testosterone and um

01:47:09.640 um uh what's the love drug called oxytocin so if women release more oxytocin then like that's also a

01:47:20.200 argument that's used to say that women um like get more attached so they should so it's like morally

01:47:28.200 worse if they have higher body counts which i disagree with but i i would say if you think that

01:47:33.800 then women are at more of a risk just dating so it's kind of i think it kind of levels the playing

01:47:43.160 field and i mean we have we have the child so it's wait so you're are you kind of saying when it comes

01:47:49.320 to dating or marriage because women tend to love stronger or be more like emotionally invested invested

01:47:58.040 that that that is the one the the risk that's on the woman's side yeah i mean and thus men should

01:48:06.440 face financial ruin no not ruin it's just evening like women are risking like dating you wasting their

01:48:15.960 time well women women feel more because often not always because we have some examples but often

01:48:23.000 they value feelings over like money and these other things and so for you that's like a bigger risk but

01:48:27.800 for men they often value their work and what they've gained and so for them that's a bigger deal

01:48:34.200 so you're just doing the like men are for mars women are for venus thing where you both have a very

01:48:38.840 serious thing that you care about but neither of you are understanding the other one's position

01:48:43.080 yeah i would say that it's even though i would say it's not predominantly i would say it's not predominantly

01:48:49.320 like men are just ruined by marriage they're just ravaged by it and it like you know

01:48:57.800 i just think it's like more equal like it's what about when there's a guy who's cheated on how

01:49:03.000 so how's it more equal because in the beginning if a woman is dating it's she's at more of a risk

01:49:10.120 how so because of because she has the baby she carries the baby so the men the the a man can have

01:49:17.640 children without actually having children so women if you're to commit like how could you avoid that

01:49:27.320 problem childbirth is really the leading cause of death so i agree with you on that but wait so but

01:49:33.720 i'm hearing two different arguments here so there's the risk to the woman if she has a child with this

01:49:40.360 man but the man leaves her um but then no not not like the like afterwards if you get divorced you'll

01:49:47.960 be taken care of as a woman but if you're not dating okay but so removing the child component from

01:49:53.640 this what is the argument oh well the argument is also that if women are biologically have like

01:50:02.680 more attachment and so yeah well i have a bit of a rebuttal to this so there's a couple things so

01:50:08.920 when it comes to women being more attached um to men or whatever so women overwhelmingly initiate

01:50:16.520 divorces eighty percent of divorces are initiated by women because you guys suck well you cannot say

01:50:22.760 that you cannot say hold on well let she can say her whatever it's fine she can say it i mean

01:50:30.200 disavow disavow i mean it's misandrist but she can say it yeah of course she can okay so hold on so

01:50:36.200 okay uh secondly when it comes to like just breakups in general i don't actually know if it's the case

01:50:43.720 that women like women fare worse i mean maybe we can go around the table on this who do you think

01:50:51.960 like uh when it comes to breakups who goes through it worse can i say something very quick on that

01:50:58.120 very very very quick okay go ahead because i hear every woman here on the table like oh we are afraid

01:51:03.160 of cheating men suck la la la we are more afraid we are more attached but what about a man and man

01:51:08.440 needs to work and man needs to provide that's a lot of pressure on a man that's a big risk for the

01:51:13.640 men as well i hate men are cheated men are this and that yeah what about i only hear about that argument

01:51:18.440 when men every month bleed every month and then go through period pain every month and have to take

01:51:24.440 contraceptives and have to go through all these if men does that let's talk about all these

01:51:29.080 other men work like 80 hours a week a man works 80 hours i work 80 hours okay so i do have to engage

01:51:35.640 with her on her thing that's a separate conversation so okay so i guess question for the panel do you

01:51:42.200 think who fares worse in breakups men or women i hear that women get over a lot quicker than the guy

01:51:52.040 actually do you guys and the other female panelists do you guys agree women get over breakups quicker

01:51:57.640 it varies i think that they really get in their emotions but they get over it quicker i'm upset

01:52:03.720 because the questions keep not getting run i keep i still want to tell you that i still want to really

01:52:07.720 tell you that i would love to bow to my man anyway proceed it's so hard for me to not interrupt and i'm

01:52:15.000 like so being so patient i'm doing very well you know and i'm like so next time i might just have

01:52:19.880 to interrupt president we'll come back to that but so i need to wrap this up with her so go ahead

01:52:27.880 the the question that i posed what's the question is everybody oh we're doing that all right

01:52:34.440 sorry i didn't think you were going to go back to us like this

01:52:37.480 but um i yeah i already answered actually but so okay let me ask you guys a question um just to

01:52:44.680 get through this as quick as possible so uh of all the people that you've dated short term or long

01:52:51.560 term more often than not are you ending things or is the guy ending things starting with you

01:52:58.200 it's actually 50 50. okay i would say the same 50 50. yeah okay 50 50. this is cap but okay uh it's

01:53:06.600 i have yeah 50 50. are you guys just gonna be sheep or you guys historically it's been the other

01:53:13.000 person but ending things okay me i think it leans more towards me relationships me situationships

01:53:19.240 them shane what about you more often you ending it's me you ending yeah it's me okay so i mean

01:53:24.280 we've asked this question tons of times on the show women overwhelmingly end relationships so this idea

01:53:29.320 that like women get more attached well how could that actually be true once it's not clear to me if

01:53:36.760 men are actually commitment phobic once women do get commitment women overwhelmingly end yeah

01:53:43.000 said yeah exactly robert tanner donated two hundred dollars women are always more at risk in the

01:53:50.440 relationship you bring life into the world you are the gatekeepers the modern laws are now skewed

01:53:56.680 against men for women to become equal relationships destroy yeah thank you robert tanner appreciate it

01:54:05.480 as far as men and women and how they handle breakups i think that men it's a sliding scale as

01:54:11.640 as age happens so young men handle breakups way worse which is why we become insane and then we have

01:54:17.960 positions that are anti-marriage and stuff and then as we get into our 30s women take those breakups

01:54:23.720 much harder yeah because we were ready for the long run yeah yeah and you're running out of time

01:54:28.120 you know yeah this kind of thing that's fair yeah uh anyways um the bow video i guess going back to

01:54:35.800 that would you bow for your man let us bow is that like a normal thing that people do in relationships

01:54:43.240 i've never bowed to anybody in my life so would you though let's say he asked you to do it he showed

01:54:48.520 you the video in a completely serious way yeah super serious he was he saw that video on my podcast he's

01:54:54.920 like oh i kind of like that i'd like my girlfriend to do that would you do it like a submissive uh

01:55:00.360 however she did that because i'm not into that you're not no into that okay all right fair um maybe

01:55:07.160 ironically but i mean like i said i'm all these men i'm like you're oh sorry but um a lot of these like

01:55:14.520 men i'm dating i mean i'm open to dating a guy that is does make more money than me and all these like

01:55:19.160 breadwinner things and stuff but it's like why am i being super like submissive to you like seriously

01:55:24.760 sure when i mean a lot of these men i'm dating they're not they're they're bowing but their

01:55:30.280 boyfriend is behind them yeah i mean i don't want them to bow i don't i don't expect my man to bow to

01:55:35.400 me i don't i'm you can just be a normal person i want to be equal to my partner or okay yeah absolutely

01:55:42.600 i think i already answered absolutely i think it's so hot

01:55:46.680 yeah i get that well this is for the ladies i would say yes because i also expect him to if he

01:55:54.280 wouldn't do it then i wouldn't do it that's fair would you want your girl to bow to you

01:55:58.760 would i want my girl um wait wait oh go ahead go ahead yeah sure yeah i mean if that was how

01:56:04.680 she was expressing like some sort of like excitement or love or whatever i think that's

01:56:09.400 cute i like it i mean i like to be greeted like if you get off i travel a lot if i come home to

01:56:17.560 someone i'm with and they like open the door before i get there and jump on my arms and give me a

01:56:22.200 kiss that's like the american equivalent i like that yeah yeah so you would expect you're married

01:56:27.080 you'd want your husband to bow to you bow back yeah i mean not right then and there but i would

01:56:33.160 expect him because i when i think about i think like oh only the woman is bowing i'm like yeah

01:56:38.760 what's wrong with that i mean if he it depends the situation like if he's like hey bow right now

01:56:45.560 because i'm telling you to what's wrong with that um i don't i don't actually see anything wrong with

01:56:50.840 that no because what is wrong with that right away

01:56:54.120 there's nothing wrong with that she's just saying i don't anything i don't actually think there's

01:56:58.600 anything yeah there's nothing wrong i would just say yes sir and that will be on my knees

01:57:02.760 i guess whatever you say daddy if it's more like on a like a deeper level i would think of it that

01:57:11.000 way but if it's just like a what's up bow sure if you're both bowing to each other it's like you're

01:57:16.520 about to duel in a movie like what are you doing then just get your swords out and go well was it

01:57:23.640 this is like with the intention of like you are my inferior yeah so like there shouldn't be a power

01:57:30.360 dynamic no if you if you're in a what if you're your partner i'm so horny right now i would do

01:57:38.920 i said what would you do if you're if your partner your wife over there your wife or girlfriend asked

01:57:43.480 you to bow to her oh would i do yeah no of course no of course not but you expect her to bow for you

01:57:50.680 men and women are different i don't think i want a man who'd bow to me we're like i wouldn't want the

01:57:54.360 man to bow to me yeah i would i would it's like just the dynamic yeah it's the dynamic i

01:58:00.280 no i would not bow to her would you ask a man to build something for you that's a good one

01:58:07.080 if i needed help maybe if they had extra hands and knew how to do what they were doing but here's

01:58:13.080 a question here's a question for you so do it myself then yeah so here's a question why is it that when

01:58:19.400 men will have expectations of women those things have to be reciprocated but when women have expectations

01:58:26.520 of men it's very rare that there's an expectation that women also reciprocate that behavior

01:58:34.680 because the expectation we have on you is pretty small wait so but about

01:58:42.200 basic but what's the wait hold on women's expectations are small like pretty normal we

01:58:48.680 want compare i don't know earlier you were like he has to make money he has to be funny he has a

01:58:52.680 good personality he has to be bigger than three inches like i had a brain fart i had a brain

01:58:57.080 fart can you like repeat the question again uh so well it's more it was more so of a statement

01:59:02.920 uh-huh can you say that well so okay i was saying that she was saying when i was like oh i would want

01:59:07.800 my girlfriend to do a little bow or something when she greets me yeah she was like well would you do that

01:59:12.680 back because there's an expectation there when men want things men also have or excuse me when

01:59:18.840 hold on how's the framing here if a man wants something he has to be willing to reciprocate that

01:59:24.440 to the woman if he wants it but if women want things it's not clear to me if there's an expectation

01:59:30.280 that the woman has the woman has to reciprocate that for example if a woman wants a man to pay for

01:59:35.720 first dates well or will you pay for first dates yeah that's really a rare uh reciprocal expectation

01:59:43.320 i think your statement it's a one directional expectation your statement is saying always i

01:59:48.200 don't think that's true i think women want certain things and men want certain things it's not like

01:59:54.200 it's not like oh you i you have to reciprocate and no but she's saying her those kinds of things you

02:00:02.280 preach tradition that sounds like tradition i don't really preach i do but i

02:00:07.000 i feel like i feel like i preach it a bit i think it's very telling the people who would bow and and

02:00:16.440 the idea that if you wouldn't because you think it's demeaning says a lot about how you're interacting

02:00:21.880 with the other sex and how you feel about them and how you allow them to feel about you because the

02:00:27.240 fact that you instantly think of you bowing to someone as being somehow disrespectful or demeaning is

02:00:33.160 like that never entered my mind for a second i thought it was like a sweet sign of respect

02:00:38.760 as opposed to like a demeaning thing to submit yourself to someone is not to demean them that

02:00:45.320 would be like if i was like oh i have plans today but my girlfriend needs me to help her move or

02:00:50.440 something and then i cancel my plans that's technically a submissive act but yeah it's i'm not being demeaned

02:00:56.040 because i love this person and i respect them and i'm giving them their due okay i guess i just think

02:01:01.000 that's somewhat of a strange comparison like bowing if somebody asked me to bow to them it would just

02:01:06.760 kind of throw me off a little bit i don't know that's not you're not dating a japanese man

02:01:11.960 that's exactly where i was going oh okay cool i saw a comment it said bowing is a sign of respect

02:01:17.880 in asian culture that's probably very true that's not something i've been exposed to it's not super

02:01:23.320 normalized in america this fucking giga chad robert tanner donated one thousand and one dollars

02:01:31.240 champagne yo you're a legend robert tanner appreciate it man question if we have no tradition

02:01:37.000 what objective truth are our relationships based on anything relative of the current time

02:01:42.360 it seems very dangerous donated a thousand and one dollars robert tanner you are amazing actually

02:01:49.240 you donate a lot it seems very dangerous you are an amazing man like a paper towel or something

02:01:54.120 you are an amazing man thank you all right uh robert tanner uh uh you're you're a hold on let me play

02:02:02.200 this shit to robert tanner he's a brave and a decent man he's a pioneer appreciate it dude appreciate it um

02:02:09.640 um and also hold on let me play one more i'm a fucking legend you sir you sir you're a legend

02:02:17.240 uh oh last just to move things on a little bit here i do have to move things on from the

02:02:22.360 bow thing but i guess here's my argument right is when it comes to this whole bowing thing and

02:02:28.200 i'll actually grant to you it's like it might seem a little surprising because at least in the western

02:02:34.120 culture it's out of the norm yeah but in terms of the actual ask it actually takes really no effort

02:02:41.560 from yeah woman but i guess what confuses me so like a guy could ask his girlfriend to do this

02:02:48.760 or even a girl you just start seeing and she might object to it for feminist reasons and by the way grid

02:02:53.560 one i will ask your question here in a moment she might object to it for feminist reasons or uh i don't

02:02:58.200 wanna what is that but like the same woman that will object to a otherwise benign innocent bow

02:03:07.400 within 30 minutes of meeting a man will suck his dick and let let her fuck him um so i just thought

02:03:13.080 that's i'm not saying that about you i'm just saying that thanks i'm not i'm just saying like the girl

02:03:20.120 like girls who object to the bow will fuck a dude within 30 minutes of meeting them you'll literally let

02:03:25.400 the man inside you with his peepee with his penis but you won't just penis well i think it's weird

02:03:31.720 that you sorry that you um that you don't want to bow but you'll pay for his life like you're doing so

02:03:36.600 much more for him i'm not proud of it either like i think that kind of like the way i said

02:03:50.920 you hold on

02:03:51.800 thank you robert please i said the same thing kind of like with the i mean i'm not opposed to the

02:04:04.520 bow i guess maybe in a rare case i'm actually a bow advocate you are as well oh my god we're gonna

02:04:09.640 start a page about women i was gonna say it's everybody will be enforced i don't i'm so bad

02:04:16.280 with the authority but my man i'm gonna do whatever he says anything else i will be so submissive for

02:04:21.720 a man that provides i will do everything for that man i will lick the floor if he asks me to i will do

02:04:27.480 that i don't listen to anyone else i guess we will start like an only fans for i'm not gonna do an

02:04:33.320 only fans girl no no i'm not gonna do it just an instagram page wait what instagram page what will

02:04:39.160 you do what will you do we're advocates for the bow yeah we are advocates for the power we will make

02:04:46.520 an instagram with just women bowing no but what you said you would do something for a guy i will do

02:04:52.520 everything for a man yeah if he's providing if he's protecting just really being a man marriage or not

02:04:58.360 just providing no but what i'm sorry i didn't hear it so what would you do i will lick the floor

02:05:04.360 if he asked me to yeah i would i would do everything he's the man of the household darling

02:05:09.800 i'm your wife i will do everything for you oh yeah what no no no these two no oh my gosh

02:05:18.200 babe i feel like i'm with a man because i respect him i love everything about him so of course

02:05:22.600 i'm gonna do like anything to make him happy yeah otherwise i'm not probably with them we're not

02:05:27.400 relationship in a relationship yes the bowing thing it's like you were saying like oh why would

02:05:34.280 you not bow if you're saying for him i already think that that's like kind of like so if the

02:05:39.000 man's not bound because he's like oh i'm providing for this woman and he expects and i have to bow if

02:05:43.480 you're being like the masculine role you're being the one that's the provider then it would also be

02:05:48.520 kind of expected that you wouldn't want to bow either because you're kind of supporting that man

02:05:52.600 you know what i mean i think we have a little problem in today's society that women not every

02:05:57.240 woman but women in generally want to like be very manly so like why would i have to do they're very

02:06:03.720 like yeah yeah i'm aggressive about it because if i have to do it you have to do it why is it not just

02:06:08.440 out of love you will have sees the pagan donated two hundred dollars yeah thank you example of women

02:06:13.800 not reciprocating is in relationship the woman that day is not in the mood for sex hands off and

02:06:19.240 rightfully so but if the woman is in few mood and the man isn't they get salty this sounds personal

02:06:27.400 who hurt you what you guys are thinking of bowing who hurt you the pagan uh the who who got salty

02:06:38.200 there must be this sounds like a very personal experience no what's he saying basically i feel

02:06:43.240 like women can't take an l though if you reject them sexually really yeah that's probably true they're

02:06:47.800 not used to it i feel like women are not i think they haven't handled i have been rejected sexually

02:06:52.840 yeah they are not i just feel like i can read the room i don't think i'd put myself on someone

02:06:56.760 randomly and they're like no like what what's going on over here what's going on over here

02:07:02.440 just asking if she's okay if she's what we're just checking in if she's okay are you okay yeah i'm

02:07:08.200 perfectly fine oh okay don't worry about uh let's do a little cheers to oh robert tanner yes thank you

02:07:15.800 robert robert tanner salute yeah yeah

02:07:19.160 let's launch it all right cool um let me read two chats two chats we have curtis leone

02:07:30.280 i love dependas those wonderful pill popping wives are crazy i used to watch them first fight at base

02:07:35.960 housing dependa tell us about the sleazy underworld of dependa life blue porch light

02:07:41.160 united states marine corps oh man thank you curtis i haven't heard that word in a long time

02:07:49.400 um i i didn't really have a whole ton of friends um when i was a dependa so i wasn't really like out

02:08:02.360 partying the parties that i went to we would host at our house on base and his friends would come

02:08:07.560 over and everyone would drink they'd bring their wives so pill popping i don't know anything about

02:08:12.760 that but i have heard some crazy stories about girls who chase guys in the military for the benefits

02:08:17.640 all right we have kill of cereal here question for the panel what is the most embarrassing moment

02:08:21.480 you've experienced on a date or while sharing carnal knowledge got a gun drawn on us by a gate guard

02:08:28.040 because i went too far before turning around kill of cereal hey really good to see you in the chat man

02:08:33.560 by the way uh wait have you sent me a dm on discord i don't know send me a dm on discord and uh i need

02:08:39.560 to get you a role on our discord man appreciate it kill of cereal we need to we also need to do grid

02:08:43.880 one's question about feminism um so i need really quick answers on this just to move things along but

02:08:50.280 most embarrassing uh moment you've experienced on the date quick 10 second 15 second answer haven't

02:08:59.640 been on a lot of dates but um my ex used to beat off in bed right next to me right word

02:09:10.600 when i was sleeping at like 3 a.m every morning were you guys living together yeah it was my

02:09:16.440 is that weird i mean at least wake me up it was like aggressively like aggressively and i i had

02:09:23.640 had talks with him like grudging jack-off session probably i'm gonna be real i just i i had had

02:09:30.200 conversations like go can you like go to the shower there's three bedrooms in this house you could

02:09:35.720 literally go somewhere else because it's waking me up at 3 a.m okay so he's a he's kind of a violent

02:09:45.000 masturbator yeah like it was a it was he was moving the bed this is a full body masturbation

02:09:51.000 what is happening the bed would shake that's that's you've got to get one of those sleep

02:09:55.160 number beds so that the wine doesn't spill you guys having sex um we were but i will say it was

02:10:01.800 it was not a lot and there was a lot of reasons for that like i didn't feel loved i didn't feel

02:10:06.760 you know it's a red flag in my books okay yeah you should date someone who doesn't masturbate

02:10:12.280 then you don't have that problem i don't want to get into the details of this but sex with him

02:10:16.520 was uh not good not and i'm not saying he wasn't good at it he liked

02:10:27.400 to get pegged no go ahead no he just was just very like like just rough you know like not

02:10:35.640 that's fantastic it sounds like my ideal man but you gotta have a little like a little mixture

02:10:42.760 you know like it shouldn't just be that all the time we have the same type so

02:10:48.120 it sounds like he has an unhealthy relationship with sex i yeah fair enough it sounds like a marine

02:10:55.320 yeah yeah okay um oh embarrassing date quick answers if you can yeah so quick first date finish the

02:11:03.240 date make out in the hallway before i leave he summer time thin clothes he came on me oh in two

02:11:09.960 minutes were you doing the check no i wasn't even i wasn't even you didn't even get chance i didn't

02:11:14.600 even maybe i checked when it happened that's how you found it that's how you found it yeah it was

02:11:22.520 the cramped in my cock what the fuck that was nick um good the weirdest thing i ever had he came

02:11:31.560 on my face and he didn't told me so i went down the stairs to my parents to get something to drink

02:11:39.800 for myself but he didn't say anything my father was like

02:11:42.520 oh wait is this a date story no i was like and he came on your face i don't know we were just there

02:11:49.960 i don't know and my father was like what's on your face i was like yeah what's on my face so i

02:11:54.280 got to the hallway and he was just sitting on the staircase laughing his ass off he's like ah

02:11:58.760 this is so funny and i looked into the mirror and i was like oh damn it's kind of funny though but

02:12:02.920 it's weird no so were you asleep what how is this humanly possible because i thought i had

02:12:08.840 everything in my mouth but i wasn't and he just kept on going and i was like oh i finished right

02:12:14.680 i already swallowed it and i just looked away for a second like all right swallow it down it's just

02:12:19.160 in my hair whoa you got to do the mirror check so that that's what happens all right that's wild

02:12:28.040 what about you i wouldn't do it at my parents well i don't want to like i don't want the guy to watch

02:12:32.360 this and like be sad but actually it's for the better like good um yeah just a guy growled while

02:12:40.920 we were having sex like an animal growl which animal yeah chicken reenact there we create can you

02:12:50.360 reenact it's like oh my what is hey it's more like an anime kid growl than like an animal growl

02:12:59.000 maybe he's just really into it you know you know uh okay yeah free yourself b i i had a similar

02:13:05.640 story this one time this chick wanted to be like a cat really that happens was it cute or was it

02:13:11.800 weird did she want to like meow for you like a full latex suit the way she went about it was weird

02:13:17.560 like i actually wouldn't like if a girl that was her thing or whatever like if it for me anyways like

02:13:22.200 if it turns her on like fine whatever yeah i'm cool with it i'll get into it or whatever yeah but

02:13:27.720 like she just went about it the wrong way that she was trying to like be a cat and

02:13:31.720 shit did she wear like a latex cat woman suit sexy with new boots on the red and oh my god

02:13:38.840 actually that wasn't the weird part it was just like she was weird and then anyways whatever but

02:13:42.840 so i i feel you like a furry yeah no it was just she's like act like i'm your cat what are you gonna

02:13:48.600 do to me like that's weird anyways what about you is it supposed to be embarrassing for me or for them

02:13:56.760 either sure either i guess okay well after i lost my virginity i got kicked out of the house

02:14:03.880 at 5 a.m in the pouring rain with no ride so it's more just a little sad and humbling but wait

02:14:10.840 oh my god you got kicked out of the house yeah because i'd like snuck it this was when i was

02:14:15.800 younger and it was his parents house and his parents like woke up or something the parents

02:14:20.200 kicked you out no they didn't but he thought he was like scared they woke up and so he made me

02:14:25.080 leave so this is evil it's just sad a little bit oh good but i mean i don't think it's that bad

02:14:32.120 like it was embarrassing for me i don't think he was being i just felt like kind of pathetic and used

02:14:37.400 and embarrassed yeah but i don't think he's being a dick he's probably just concerned of like

02:14:40.520 repercussions no he was a dick yeah take my word for it but i mean he's at his parents house he

02:14:45.480 probably doesn't want to get caught so it's not like if it's not that big if it wasn't it didn't

02:14:50.120 like traumatize me so question how long had you been seeing this guy this was like a one night stand

02:14:55.640 you lost your virginity in the one night stand wow

02:14:58.680 that's okay hey you know what it happens to the best of us yeah it happens it happens how

02:15:03.800 out were you oh god that's okay girl 14 i should have lied wait did he know that you were a virgin

02:15:15.880 yeah well it happened i was 13. how old i think he liked that a little bit no he don't worry he was

02:15:20.760 only 16 he wasn't like oh was he though embarrassing story embarrassing catfished many a times like the guy

02:15:27.240 will be like 30 but then the pictures of them when they were like 22 and then they're like

02:15:31.160 way chunkier and their hair's bad and they look really bad yeah happens a lot so you don't like

02:15:36.520 send videos or facetime um i i'm not no i mean i'm not like a snapchat person i think snapchat's a red

02:15:42.520 flag but usually that's how they would send live photos i feel like and maybe not really in text messages

02:15:47.960 okay weird that's that's wild so kind of like how all women wear makeup i mean

02:15:56.040 looking like we're all just like human beings so sorry my like lashes are not naturally this long

02:16:01.640 but i'm not insecure without my makeup i'll i'll take my makeup off i do i film content i shoot a

02:16:06.360 lot of time with no makeup because i don't really care okay what about you my now boyfriend and i were

02:16:11.640 headed home after a date and i was you know how you know making him feel good and i threw up on him

02:16:19.320 on him oh no what what type what type into his lap like everything like he literally was just stuck

02:16:26.600 with it this is just like 30 minutes just driving yeah it's very important wait it was in the car

02:16:31.480 yeah that's too much to drink and he stayed with you right he's a keeper you should ask him to marry

02:16:42.600 very much in love with my wife however if i turn her down for sex she gets salty just like she talks

02:16:49.560 through something i'm watching but if i do the same i get the castration stare honestly i get it i

02:16:56.200 i used to be that wife i love your wife yes i'm like that too keep her but now i'm better okay

02:17:03.640 all right i can't think of an embarrassing day i feel like i go on dates all the time

02:17:07.960 but um oh let me think of one ah i think i might need to come back to me no okay one time i went on

02:17:13.880 a date and the guy like i had the script in my head it was the first time we was going to meet each

02:17:18.200 of us i thought it was going to be all romantic and then i go to the place and he's like outside

02:17:21.880 talking to some girl in the smoking area like i was like what like we're supposed to have you're

02:17:26.200 supposed to see me for the first time and be all fantastic and then so to take the piss like when

02:17:30.920 he went to the bar or something and came back i like started talking to a guy like missing about

02:17:36.440 uh shane what about you um i was incredibly unavailable in my 20s was a woman i used to

02:17:40.520 work with and we would like lightly flirt nothing crazy and that happened for months and months and

02:17:44.440 finally she asked me out and i agreed to it so she's very excited we're gonna go on a date and

02:17:48.520 she's sick and i'm like we can cancel and she goes no i'm not gonna cancel because then you're not

02:17:51.720 going to go on the date so she shows up to my house to pick me up to take me to some surprise

02:17:56.200 and uh she's like oh i don't feel well we got to stop at like cvs or whatever so i can get some

02:18:00.760 i don't know medicine ibuprofen and then as she's driving she just started crying and then she pulled

02:18:05.320 into a gas station and put her head on the steering wheel and began to weep incredibly hard like ugly

02:18:10.520 crying and that's when i began to smell it that she had completely and utterly uh she had defecated

02:18:17.400 herself uh so fucking disgusting yeah so hard that i was in the car like and then so she gets out of

02:18:24.680 the car to go into 7-eleven to handle it and then i just opened the door and left the car running and

02:18:29.160 escaped into the night i just ran home i was like oh my god and then i did work with her again and i

02:18:36.760 we never mentioned it we just pretend it didn't happen what about you i don't have one she told you

02:18:41.480 again okay uh oh two things really quick then next topic i was just curious about your tattoo

02:18:48.600 that you have yeah this one so what's the story there it's not across it's a plus sign for positive

02:18:53.720 vibes i think good vibes is literally everything it's like you turn your head that way so this

02:18:57.640 camera can see me yeah oh there it is oh you look so beautiful thank you so much but yeah good energy

02:19:04.200 you can literally like add to someone i thought you like killed somebody or something i catch myself

02:19:10.760 even when i'm angry i'm like no come on be nice give them a good you know and wait question for

02:19:14.760 isis here um about your name so um because i know a lot of uh people who um weren't born here for

02:19:25.400 example typically from asian countries they'll just like adopt a name that's not their legal name

02:19:30.840 do you have a different like a legal name that's not isis yeah i do have a legal name so what's your

02:19:35.960 original name or um like it me it's on my tiktok so if you want to know go see that i don't want to

02:19:42.520 announce it here the reason why yeah oh well sorry the reason why i have isis because before i came to

02:19:49.560 u.s i was taking uh english lesson from a american guy from new york and he told me i was 15 at the time

02:19:57.480 he told me when you come to us you need a name that people can easily pronounce so like let me

02:20:02.760 give you a name let me just emphasize this is 20 2012 okay beginning of 2012 before i

02:20:10.280 i checked i googled when you now go back to like that's your name by choice when you now go back

02:20:16.440 to your real name but that's the thing like he he like he just called me one day randomly he never calls

02:20:21.880 me he just called me one and be like your name is isis and i was like why why not or something if

02:20:26.600 you're choosing something i don't know he just chose it for me it's like meant to be he said it's

02:20:30.600 meant to be and then when i as i as was a thing um i actually called him i was like should i change

02:20:36.280 my name because people have been making fun of me and he was like do you want the world to remember

02:20:40.760 isis as a terrorist group or you oh so because positivity i want to bring the positivity to the

02:20:46.680 world right okay okay i hear you so you're like the cheerleader of isis the happy vibe of isis

02:20:55.000 no how do i have to see it like 200 years later when people read about the name or people think

02:20:59.880 of isis if you look at history do you think they'll think of so you will be making his celebrity who

02:21:05.080 maybe tell some jokes that make people laugh or a terrorist group so i'd probably just change it

02:21:12.600 now yeah i think like do you think you would rather people remember the terrorist group but darling

02:21:18.760 but it's a bit bigger than do you think they will remember you will you go into the history box yes i

02:21:23.640 will because i have plenty yes i'm planning to build orphanages and i'm going to use my name as

02:21:28.840 the name of the orphanage and that's going to continue and that's what greenpeace and everything

02:21:33.240 is so that's my dream that's why i want to manifest it into reality is any problem with that but people

02:21:39.240 might associate it with something else like you you know i see that you want to do good to change the

02:21:45.000 narrative like it's not like oh i'm gonna change i'm just telling you why i don't want to change

02:21:49.080 my name are going to be on the website of the true isis like oh my god it's gonna be difficult

02:21:54.040 yeah isis wikipedia yeah is pretty robust yeah when it comes to you know what i mean my goal in life

02:22:03.000 isn't to change people's perception of isis my goal in life is to be myself and then like my name and

02:22:10.680 let the name represent me and everybody if i know you and you never knew a person named isis before i wish

02:22:17.240 that after i met you in the future when you read the word isis you think of me instead of first

02:22:21.080 start think of a terrorist group that's what i'm trying to say i feel like if it was my name i'd

02:22:25.160 write till i die but like that's my but if i chose it i'd probably step back yeah you could

02:22:28.600 have like on all your legal documents is it your other name it's preferred name usually they have

02:22:34.200 in legal document they have a preferred name and a legal name on my legal name it's my legal name

02:22:38.520 so it's like your artist's name yeah it's like my tiktok name it's like what people call

02:22:43.800 have it ever crossed your mind like change it to like eyes or anything nice and spicy

02:22:50.760 isis is also a band and an egyptian god i was gonna say

02:22:57.160 it's basically the most powerful goddess um in egypt so that is what i'm named after i wasn't

02:23:02.600 named myself after like the terrorist group yeah the name sounds nice it's like when people say did

02:23:08.040 you see when people say oh wouldn't chlamydia be a nice name if it wasn't what it meant like

02:23:11.720 isis just sounds beautiful i'd love to call my daughter but considering now it's like okay

02:23:16.040 maybe we can't but it does sound lovely well it's tough to outdo a bad name though yeah there was a

02:23:20.840 soldier that fought in world war ii with distinction very well and he did a great job and people loved

02:23:27.080 him and he had the same name as a certain guy who was in charge of the third reich but we never talk

02:23:32.520 about that soldier we just talk about that other guy so you're you're up against it i was just curious

02:23:40.440 giovanni jd donated 200 islamic terrorist organization or demonic pagan god lovely british

02:23:49.080 girl turn your tattoo into a cross or nozzle only acceptable face tattoos pink dress low-key gorgeous

02:23:57.640 brian's a fake wall wait so what do they want me to do turn my face they want you they want you

02:24:06.840 to have a cross or the tattoo i have on my face and they're being racist at brian well no thank you

02:24:11.560 very much it's my face so obviously i'll do what i want yeah that's an italian it stands for without

02:24:16.200 papers oh yeah why oh i was doing an italian like uh okay excuse me all right okay all right um oh

02:24:27.080 grid one's question going around the table are you a wait let me just double check that was his

02:24:32.360 question where is it grid one uh oh how many of the panelists are feminist going around the table

02:24:38.440 do you consider yourself a feminist i believe yeah in the direct definition of it i believe in cerebral

02:24:45.320 equality with men and women what is cerebral like mentally we have the same ability to work

02:24:57.000 as a ceo for a company right um physically i don't necessarily believe that okay i think it

02:25:06.520 depends on the definition of feminism i refuse to answer this question unless you give me a definition

02:25:11.880 so here i'll i'll give i'll give one so move the movement towards equality or egalitarianism

02:25:20.760 with an emphasis on uh or or no a rejection of patriarchy so movement towards equality with a

02:25:29.320 rejection of patriarchy patriarchy is is is bad right it doesn't mean like it's like i need a

02:25:35.960 definition for that too i'm so sorry english is not my first language patriarchy is when men are leading

02:25:41.560 society generally oh yeah that's bad definitely that's why there's so many wars you see like

02:25:46.040 like if a woman are in charge there would just be peace talks i don't know you think so

02:25:54.840 no the most infamous pirate who killed the most people in the world was a chinese

02:25:58.440 woman a lot of granddaughter killed like millions of people like the most outlandish example but they

02:26:05.320 do happen a lot of vikings were women as well a lot of things women are very emotionally happen we

02:26:11.320 will fight i didn't know that a rejection of patriarchy was in yeah i thought it was just

02:26:18.600 rights equality for well i mean that but that's a really a core i think that the far like really

02:26:24.360 hard liberals push a rejection of patriarchy mainstream feminism is a rejection of patriarchy

02:26:29.640 i actually think it goes far beyond that but but so going back to so many thousands of years and

02:26:36.680 our world isn't that much better i mean it's time to change it a little bit actually as the patriarchy

02:26:41.560 has been weakening the world's actually gotten worse yeah because it only gets worse because

02:26:46.920 before it gets better you know

02:26:52.360 i'm telling you really quick but so your claim that if uh i think you're saying well if women were

02:26:59.160 more in charge there would be less wars yeah they actually did a study they looked at um female rulers

02:27:04.520 and they did a per capita analysis they actually found that women rulers monarchs for example female

02:27:11.320 queens were more likely to wage war exactly and that makes extremely perfect sense because in a world

02:27:19.480 full of men when men are in charge in order to be a woman in charge you need to be all the men so you

02:27:24.840 have to be more aggressive than all the men so basically you are acting like a man in because you're

02:27:30.680 competing with all the men you know so you have to you have to win somehow but if in a world where

02:27:35.880 i have equal opportunity where every position men and women are equally considered then that's if that's

02:27:41.720 the definition so i'm not sure i'm prepared to grant that presupposition but um i mean isn't there

02:27:48.760 substantial like for example in workforces that are predominantly female there there actually tends to be

02:27:55.240 quite a lot of conflict in those environments where it's like mostly women in the uh workplace

02:28:01.800 yeah you know there's a lot of like you know because men are in the world right now that has

02:28:06.600 but no no but when women have all the power yeah if there's a company that's like predominantly women

02:28:11.160 or all women there's like clicking up and like all this sort of like um what's that movie mean girls

02:28:18.360 like they click up and there's like backstab i mean there's backstabbing in all kinds of corporations but

02:28:23.720 there's a greater proclivity towards like backstabbing reputation destruction this sort of

02:28:28.440 thing i mean you've been to a hair salon right can i say i don't know what do you all talk about at the

02:28:33.720 hair yes yes it doesn't matter what you this point let me say this because what you're describing where

02:28:39.720 oh all these women are all in charge what you're describing is ecosystem a small micro ecosystem that

02:28:46.120 exists under the current society which is patriarchy patriarchy cause girls to be mean girls

02:28:51.640 a lot of jealousy for us is caused by men they're inconsideration women i mean are women raised by

02:29:01.400 other women more often this is the greatest episode of dr phil i've ever been on the idea that women

02:29:08.600 have to cause more wars because they're competing with men doesn't seem like it's inherent to what

02:29:13.400 men do it seems like that's inherently what statecraft is like war and competing for resources is just the

02:29:19.560 human condition has nothing to do with gender you can't compute resources in a civil way donated

02:29:23.800 two hundred dollars and but apparently i am the patriarchy and you know nothing of my work

02:29:29.880 men built this world all the things you enjoy were built by men with the support of women who love

02:29:35.480 them sure feminism seeks to destroy all of it if right now every woman died this race is gone there's

02:29:43.640 gonna be no offspring whatsoever if all men died we're gonna be fine can we just stop why why does

02:29:54.360 it always has to come back on the baby thing don't he asked like men build the world that's true right

02:30:00.760 the world wouldn't even exist if there's no woman is what i'm saying we need each other this is the chicken

02:30:05.880 in the egg yeah we need each other we need we need each other and we need to like fill each other up

02:30:13.000 about it yeah proper also it's not the chicken because men came first i think as a woman religiously

02:30:20.200 men came first because adam and then he was taken from his ribs so not his foot so that she would be

02:30:26.200 below him not his head so that she would be smarter than him but his ribs so that she would collaborate

02:30:30.760 right that doesn't make sense because men have x y chromosome women have x x chromosome right like

02:30:35.560 it looks like you guys are lacking something now we're lacking something you are the rib that we

02:30:39.400 took out all right should we just like continue yeah do you believe in feminism not believe

02:30:48.200 are you a feminist yeah i think in the world we are living now no i still believe that men

02:30:56.280 build the world and we as a women are different and i think we are great at being different i think

02:31:04.040 that as a woman we have to look at ourself and think you know what as a woman we are great we do not have

02:31:09.240 to compete with men we are great as a woman we do things different than men and we are great at doing

02:31:16.120 things different why do i always have to compete with a man because we are different yeah we are made

02:31:21.000 differently and we can be so great and so powerful at being different stop comparing yourself to men

02:31:28.120 because we are not men we will never will be men just be strong as a woman and use your strength as a

02:31:34.600 woman to build the things up as a woman stop comparing yourself to men you you're not a man and

02:31:39.880 stop doing it stop saying hey i bring the babies chill down the men do their thing we are women we can be

02:31:46.360 strong as a woman we can be seductive we can be beautiful we can do everything and as a woman if

02:31:51.480 you support other women a little bit more not in like the aggressive feminist state just like could

02:31:58.760 being a woman let the men be men let women be women women and just be strong as a women embrace your

02:32:06.120 womanhood stop comparing yourself as a man and fight against when we have to do this we have to do that

02:32:11.000 as a man let the men be men let you be a woman be strong as a woman first yeah chill down don't

02:32:17.080 stop fighting men all the time i think women should just i think we have a problem comparing ourselves

02:32:21.960 to everything like yeah but that's where the problem starts we as a woman if you truly that's

02:32:31.240 if you look yourself in the mirror can you say like i'm very strong as a woman right now are you

02:32:36.360 looking in the mirror like oh my god maybe i want to change this about myself i need to go to the gym i

02:32:40.280 need to go this and this be strong as your own women first and leave the men being men yeah so

02:32:46.600 let's get answers to the question though so are you a feminist did you you are a feminist

02:32:53.720 a movement towards equality with a rejection of patriarchy equality of opportunity that's my

02:33:00.040 modification because like i said you are i agree with you physically you know there's a lot of

02:33:04.840 difference between emotionally too brain structure men and women are different so i would say equal

02:33:09.560 opportunity and then destruction of patriarchy yes okay so you're a feminist if that's the

02:33:15.880 definition i think i already answered it in a good way so was it a yes or in this society no i'm not a

02:33:23.000 feminist yes yes i'm a feminist i'm a girl boss slave feminist i i can't be a feminist because

02:33:30.760 feminists they say they want equality and then there's like so many things they pick and choose they

02:33:34.440 don't want to be equal on so no that's what i meant in the way i'm saying yeah you know that

02:33:39.880 that's what i was saying as well be strong first wait you said equal opportunity yeah like the equal

02:33:45.560 opportunity to be drafted into the military exactly equality we keep finding equality is really hard

02:33:51.320 because at the workforce i think women should have more rights at work for us and more leave it because

02:33:56.200 we have to give birth so we have more vacation i i would suggest period paying vacation as well but

02:34:02.760 like but that's not it's not equal yeah like i guess i guess i wish it's not it's not a man's fault

02:34:09.560 you want to be rich one day right yeah so it's not his fault will you think perhaps one day you'll

02:34:14.280 start a business yeah i will and you'll have employees okay so i mean if you're in the business your

02:34:20.440 purpose for your business is to make money right i mean you said well women should have

02:34:25.240 more time off and if they have their period then they should have time off for their period well i

02:34:31.000 mean wouldn't this be like if if you're an employer how is this just not a liability for your business it

02:34:37.880 is i think it is a liability i think in order for like can i ask you a question if you're having to

02:34:43.000 pick an employee let's just remove uh gender from it entirely if you know that one employee is more

02:34:48.920 likely to be reliable and be there whereas this other person they're more they they're going to

02:34:53.400 be sick more often they're going to be less likely they're more likely to ask for time off wouldn't you

02:34:58.520 as the business owner have a strong preference for regardless of gender hiring the person who's going

02:35:04.600 to be there they're not going to call out all the time they're going to show up on time they're not

02:35:08.760 going to be constantly oh i got to take a day off blah blah blah who would you prefer to hire as an

02:35:13.480 employer now that you say it this way i realize i'm not a feminist i'm someone i want to give

02:35:20.440 someone who i want to be someone who give more rights to women because what your question well

02:35:24.760 that's wait wait no right so no let me explain something the way you said it if it's two employee

02:35:29.400 i don't know if it's their gender then definitely i would pick the one with less reliability if i know

02:35:35.400 their gender and the this woman requires more leave because of pregnancy or period then as a woman i'm

02:35:42.360 willing to give her that leeway because i want like i said i want to be rich the reason why i want

02:35:47.080 to be rich isn't it's so that i can provide the the love and care i want to provide to the people i

02:35:53.880 care about can i ask you a very fast question you want equality so you want to give the woman an

02:35:59.160 opportunity wait a second you want to give a woman the opportunity to get her days off when she's

02:36:05.880 pregnant and everything else so if you go to the workplace and a man has like 20 vacation days you want

02:36:11.320 the same right so if a man says hey listen this mom he cannot do anything about it that he cannot

02:36:16.920 have children this guy god's way right so if this man is saying like she's getting like 20 days off

02:36:22.840 in a year you're only giving me five i want to have 20 because that's equality right he wants to have

02:36:27.800 the same so are you going to give that to a man the same thing that you are no because i literally just

02:36:34.040 said i don't want anything about you just said you want equality of opportunity yeah so that's why

02:36:39.960 i said uh robert tanner donated 200 thank you robert look in the mirror it exists outcome of

02:36:47.880 opportunity you want equality of outcome separate but dangerous outcomes you are not understanding what

02:36:55.400 you advocating for more individuals will be hurt i think this one thank you robert tanner appreciate

02:37:01.320 it uh okay yeah thank you robert appreciate it man thank you for the tts uh let's get answers from

02:37:07.240 the whole panel uh feminist where did we leave off mine i said no okay um just with the job thing

02:37:13.480 quickly um i don't think it's about just who's more available just because the woman's going to be

02:37:17.400 up for a period you know it's about who brings more yeah just because she's going to need a few days

02:37:21.240 off she still might be smashing exactly yeah exactly that's not sorry it's not about oh who's

02:37:25.960 available and needy you want the best person yeah but as for feminists i don't think i can say a

02:37:30.280 feminist i don't know all the exact rules but i think i love that there's men and women i don't

02:37:34.840 think we all need to be the exact same everyone someone might have more male energy feminine energy

02:37:39.160 two different people bring out different things but i like the fact that the man is the man and the

02:37:43.000 woman is the woman i like that so that means i'm not a feminist right not a full one all my employees

02:37:47.720 are women i really don't have a problem at all but they they're deaf no they're not oh okay

02:37:57.960 no they're not sorry sorry i had to do it i had to do it everybody

02:38:07.320 yeah yeah yeah the comedian um i'm not a feminist if i was i would say feminism should refocus on

02:38:14.840 equality and all these are the things that are incredibly intangible and difficult to define

02:38:19.160 and sort of hard to do in society feminism should be about women finding what makes them more fulfilled

02:38:24.200 and happy not yeah what i was saying right what i was saying but fulfillment and happiness has nothing

02:38:29.320 to do with all that other crap what i was saying like being uh danica what about you yeah

02:38:33.320 danica dominica oh dominica sorry it's okay it's a long one um i would say in this day and age no i mean

02:38:39.960 what are we don't have to fight for anything right now i can do whatever you can do well can you though

02:38:46.200 you know what i mean i have the right to the physical limitations yeah yeah yeah i have the rights here

02:38:51.960 yes yes i'm not depressed all right we have curtis leone dependas used to hit on me they would tell

02:38:57.800 me their husband was deployed one chick told me the relationship was open so i went to her house

02:39:03.640 husband was mounting the neighbor yes i did it shaking my head okay sweet thank you

02:39:10.280 curtis leone for that appreciate it my ex never deployed so uh really quick on the feminism thing

02:39:16.760 so those of you who are feminists um oh can you say for just are you taking i just have i'll actually do

02:39:23.720 your question really quick first then uh so where is it we have lauren uh you said guys pretending to be

02:39:32.040 taller than they are what was your thing on that oh yeah no so i met someone on tinder my ex-boyfriend

02:39:37.480 and he pretended to be like i can't remember if he said 5'11 and he was like shorter than me

02:39:41.800 and i'm one of them girls i don't mind i'm 5'7 5'8 like i've dated guys shorter than me i think it

02:39:47.640 like i actually sometimes prefer like the underdog because someone who's just big amazing they can get

02:39:52.360 all the options they just being like you know on the surface i actually prefer just a random like just

02:39:57.720 any guy like just a real humble guy so i actually don't mind if you're short about me what i do mind

02:40:02.360 is that you lie to me so i'm on the first date looking for you in the sky and you're literally

02:40:06.520 on the floor that's what i got a problem with but that's wild like i'm not gonna actually meet you

02:40:12.040 do you know what i mean yeah like that's crazy yeah i'm going to see you yeah like i'm actually

02:40:16.040 going to see you is it wrong for lying about his height of course

02:40:20.040 yes imagine i pretend i'm skinny and i'm fat in their defense there is such a stigma towards men

02:40:26.840 and like male height short guys get such a bad rap and like guys are fantastic amazing i've met such

02:40:33.880 handsome fit like amazing short guys but there are there's just with the internet too you see all these

02:40:39.800 like street podcast interviews and all girls are like he has to be six foot he has to make six figures

02:40:46.360 like yeah that's wild how tall someone is is nothing to do with the 50 000 things i need from

02:40:51.400 a guy yeah and that's just the simple thing this is the 21st century if you want to close my eyes i

02:40:55.880 can't even see yeah but no lying like i'm a very honest person lying is morals yeah i don't care what

02:41:02.440 you are what you do but you need to be honest otherwise we might as well not start if we're going

02:41:05.880 to lie i'm going to pretend so it's a strategy that works for men though they lie until you're invested

02:41:11.640 and then it's too late and then you forgive them for the lie that's a strategy people use in dating

02:41:16.200 generally it's bad it's gross but it works i think as a woman you will fall in love with the

02:41:22.920 things you hear that's why men lie and i think men fall in love with things they see that's why women

02:41:27.560 wear makeup oh i've also heard a uh a man's face is his autobiography a woman's face is her work of

02:41:38.040 fiction exactly you got me that's another one that's why men lie and women wear makeup right yeah or

02:41:44.600 yeah women uh men lie by visual and women or sorry men love women fall in love with the things they

02:41:54.680 hear that's why men lie men fall in love with the things they see that's why we wear makeup um i'll

02:42:00.440 have a question for the panel about the height thing but before you go we have stifler ask everyone

02:42:05.080 to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten you can't pick seven starting with isis six six okay

02:42:14.360 then coming to you then we'll go this way i think i'm a five in the us two in the european countries

02:42:21.000 okay i think i'm a six five six in my eyes i'm a ten closer to the mic if you can i would say in texas

02:42:31.160 i'm an eight but in california i feel like i'm a six okay i'm like a model so sometimes i'll think

02:42:37.560 i'm a ten like i can look fantastic but then i can definitely feel like a eight and a half i'm

02:42:43.720 a two to most people but i'm an eight to the people who like what i have going on yes yes yes okay i would

02:42:50.120 say i'm a five okay you don't need to have some more like you're not a six did you say six you're

02:42:56.840 gorgeous oh thank you okay thank you stifler appreciate it uh so you're the only ten at the

02:43:02.440 table i mean no didn't i say ten oh but yeah obviously but you have bad day you don't always

02:43:07.640 feel fantastic you're an oscillating ken if i'm at the you have a bad day gross like but when i'm like

02:43:12.920 dressed up i still and i'm i'm like fine like i feel like people like i don't know i'm not that crazy

02:43:18.760 about the looks like i'm not one of those girls i don't need to wear makeup all the time same but

02:43:21.960 even when i don't look my best i'm still like i love myself you know what i mean like i don't

02:43:26.840 have to always be wearing makeup i don't really care okay um

02:43:32.760 i think i look like pocahontas people always tell me i look like i've literally got it tattooed

02:43:37.240 wait let me show you i literally got it tattooed oh only getting away with it because you're saying

02:43:43.480 it with that accent pocahontas when people say that i'm like are you kidding me i think she's

02:43:47.960 the best thing in the world so i mean i'll take it okay so yeah i'm happy around the table on this

02:43:52.680 question related to the looks one do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time no okay

02:43:59.480 yes i said so isis you are 27 yeah or 28 27 27 so you'll be better looking at uh 37 yes and

02:44:07.720 do you think you're better looking now at 27 than you were at 18

02:44:10.600 yes okay what about 47 as compared to now

02:44:19.000 that's hard because i don't want to be 47 look at this clip and be like oh i thought i was ugly

02:44:24.200 so yes i'll be more beautiful at 47 as compared to yes what about 57 yes 67 because by the time

02:44:32.600 i'm 67 like my beauty will be oozing out of in my inside so i'll be really really beautiful yes i have

02:44:39.080 to answer it this way it will always be a yes chiamina cascade 77 87 yes 97 yes yes yes yes you're

02:44:47.000 not making it 200 yeah i'm definitely not making it 200 i'm drinking smoking everything all right um

02:44:52.520 what about you yes i also think so yeah so you're 28 you'll be better looking at 38 than you are now

02:44:58.760 48 yeah every 58 yes i think so let me just uh kind of re-ask the question a little bit here so

02:45:06.760 the question isn't will you still be attractive when you're older that's not the question uh the

02:45:14.120 question is compared to now will you be more attractive in 10 years yes i think so yeah i think

02:45:24.280 about 48 maybe yes and then after that no okay 58 no no okay and you're 28 are you better looking now

02:45:33.320 at 28 than you were at 18 absolutely yeah absolutely yeah i was obese when i was growing

02:45:40.200 up i lost like 40 kilos as well okay and i worked very hard for it i didn't have any operations do i

02:45:46.120 do that a bit very hard working and stuff like that so yeah well assuming and mentally i feel prettier

02:45:53.000 well all else being equal assuming you hadn't been obese at 18 would you do you think you would

02:45:57.640 have been more attractive at 18 than you are now no okay uh you are 18 do you think you'll be better

02:46:03.000 looking at 28 than you are now um well like to who men in general i guess men in general yeah no no

02:46:14.440 okay most attractive now then what about you you're 19 do you think you'll be better looking at 29 than

02:46:18.520 than you are now i hope so okay what about 30 genes to like through you're asking to men

02:46:27.640 or even your own self-assessment sorry i thought you said that but i did but people sometimes i think

02:46:34.680 men just like it younger so sure it through the eyes of a man these are probably my peak years but

02:46:42.040 mm-hmm i hope i still like myself when i'm 29 but do you think you'll be better looking attractive

02:46:49.800 do you think you'll be better looking at 29

02:46:55.320 yeah okay 39 let's go with that um no hold on 39 no okay so peak yeah late 20s okay what about you

02:47:05.720 yeah i think men probably they say now because like even in the industry like even in the industry

02:47:11.080 already i feel like people they're like creepy about it so they want to cast me as like a little

02:47:15.560 like college girl because i'm a college girl but um wait why is that why would that be creepy

02:47:20.760 because they like the younger ones even if they're like 60 what well why would that be creepy because

02:47:25.960 you're closer to being a minor well no you're but you're not but i mean i've been doing content since

02:47:31.000 i've been barely over 18 so i mean they've always been like that and even as i've gotten older i'm 21 i'm

02:47:37.880 not old at all still people will be like oh yeah exactly still people are like oh like you're

02:47:43.000 getting old and it's because men are creepy and they want you to be barely the men who buy that kind

02:47:48.200 of content exactly are interested in that are creepy for sure not all men but i think isn't there like

02:47:52.680 a graph that shows like men as they get older they still prefer the same i think emotionally mature

02:47:57.000 men wouldn't prefer small like younger i think emotionally mature men will find two young younger

02:48:04.040 women kind of like immature yeah and they would be wouldn't have the sexual attraction like imagine

02:48:11.080 something in my opinion so much younger when i'm when i'm 31 i think i'll probably look better in my

02:48:17.160 eyes though just because like i feel like i'm always improving like i get lipo done soon i am like

02:48:23.000 always improving myself i'm getting stomach lipo i'm getting my boobs done soon oh that's so that's

02:48:29.400 so nice yes i'm getting everything done if you want to know anything i've done 80 of myself

02:48:36.520 i love it i'm still one they're great yeah they're wonderful oh my gosh i didn't yeah i wish i have

02:48:41.800 those i understand so if you want to know anything about it i've done like 80 of my body top to toe

02:48:48.040 i want to upgrade so if you want to know anything about it i'm just going to people uh what about

02:48:52.440 you uh i do think i'll be more attractive and you're 27 right yes so more attractive at 37 yeah

02:48:58.600 based off of how i've been going so better better looking at 47 no okay and then were you better

02:49:03.400 looking 18 as compared to how you look uh now no i'm better looking now okay what about you um i've

02:49:09.480 always been fantastic i'm joking um i think i'm probably probably better looking now ish probably the

02:49:17.240 same i feel like as i got like a bit older the same and i'll probably start going a bit downhill

02:49:22.280 in about five years okay so you're 30 not better looking at 40 then no a few more wrinkles and a bit

02:49:29.160 and then were you better looking at 20 as compared to now at 30 no probably the same or maybe a bit

02:49:34.680 more like womanly now so okay yeah and then uh dominica you're 22 better looking at 32 or i think

02:49:41.000 i'll be better looking because i'll have my life in my hands more because right now i'm like a slave to

02:49:46.440 school i can't really be a gym rat if you want to have kids though right yeah aren't you going to be

02:49:51.560 a slave to kids that's true yeah so i don't know i mean i hope i can find a balance i guess okay what

02:49:58.440 about 42 better looking at 42 um not better looking probably the same as you look now as i was as a 32

02:50:07.000 year old so you'll be so so better looking at 32 as compared to 22 but then you'll be the same at 42

02:50:16.280 and still better looking than at 22 what about 52 no okay brian what do you rate yourself out of 10 i

02:50:23.160 give myself a five do you think you've got better looking now or you i was better looking when i was

02:50:27.720 younger really i want to see pictures rude you didn't ask me i'm just kidding i'm just kidding

02:50:34.440 it doesn't matter you might be a silver fox it's like no i'm a man of course i'm going to be better

02:50:38.680 looking when i'm yeah i think that'll be the limit at 47 will be then i'll start to be and you'll have

02:50:44.920 like 10 more years of like comedic practice sorry i can't talk and you'll be funnier so you're like

02:50:50.920 even more or more annoying so all the women at this table so every woman here do you also agree

02:50:56.920 like men age like fine wine i think that women prefer a mature man and i think there's a lot of

02:51:04.920 reasons for that but men age so beautifully they get a men look for younger women i think women

02:51:13.640 has been pretty bad like the the king's the king's son william no no like george clooney

02:51:20.200 and so look they are really good but like men age like fine he is good fine men are great men are

02:51:27.400 grain uh we're gonna play musical chairs here a little bit so i'm gonna have you four just move

02:51:33.800 over chairs and then we're gonna actually wait hold on is that gonna work uh is that gonna work

02:51:41.640 hold on i'm gonna try to kind of figure out how i want to do this

02:51:44.520 she's already kind of get up uh actually honestly is she going away then yeah she had to leave

02:51:53.240 actually i think we just remove this chair remove this mic what yeah is this number four nick yeah

02:51:58.200 sorry guys we're just fixing the chairs here uh is maddie strong enough to yeah she's an independent

02:52:05.720 woman woman all right and then um shane what yeah you could scoot over a little bit maybe and then

02:52:16.120 just put it on the ground thank you man you want me to unplug it or anything you want me to just no

02:52:19.480 just leave it we'll mute it on our soundboard sorry guys we're just uh readjusting a couple things

02:52:23.480 here do you think we could all tiny bit scoot over that a little bit so it's easier for me to go to the

02:52:27.720 the bathroom maybe then she's yeah i'm just more into the picture we can have you guys move let me

02:52:32.200 just look at the picture as well yeah it's maybe yeah we'll be able to move over a little bit so

02:52:37.560 maybe just move over a teeny bit more into the picture musical chairs here guys thank you for your

02:52:42.440 patience here while we're getting this figured out here in just a sec i'm going to get into some of

02:52:48.920 the pre-show notes finally here uh there's a lot to get through so we'll try to do it as quick as

02:52:54.760 possible um okay she just walked in on her in the bathroom oh no good times good times so let's

02:53:08.520 get through some of the uh show notes here uh actually really quick just on the whole height

02:53:13.400 thing going around the table just how tall are you and is there been excuse me bare minimum height

02:53:18.600 for a guy you would date i am five foot two um i think bare minimum height would probably be like

02:53:26.760 four eleven for the guy yeah that's like i don't mind dating like shorter than me but like you know

02:53:34.840 there's there i'm pretty short so it gets into the realm of like you don't have a preference at all

02:53:39.960 or no okay what about you isis um mine i always used to say like six feet minimum but then the guy

02:53:48.280 i'm currently dating whom i really like is below that i used to say like guess what i call guys

02:53:54.920 below 60 tall manly friends yeah they're my friends so but now i'm dating someone i really

02:54:01.320 like so it's like i ate my words it's a curse how tall are you how tall is he i'm five three i don't

02:54:05.960 know how tall he is but i know if i wear is he gonna watch this i don't know i i forbid him anybody

02:54:12.280 from watching my stuff i hope he doesn't yeah wait you forbid men from looking at your tick tock

02:54:17.880 yeah interesting like the guy i date that's gonna make them want to do it so much more it's crazy

02:54:23.320 how much more he's gonna want to do that if they want to do that they do that but then they can't

02:54:26.920 come to me and be like i can't believe you said abc because i told them not to and they agreed

02:54:30.920 so it's like they just have to hide that inside of them honestly though like they just absorb it and

02:54:37.160 die inside a little bit yeah as somebody who did a uh a decent dive into your uh tick tock

02:54:47.480 they should probably watch that uh oh they should watch that a meme for what

02:54:52.360 for the height oh uh yeah we'll pull it up i'm five seven sorry i don't

02:55:03.240 it's true yo chart i just want to say thank for the gifted 50 subs go ahead i just want to say one

02:55:09.160 thing i'm not afraid if he watches it like not at all if he really loves me and obsessed with me

02:55:16.280 even if i tell him not to peek and he peeked and then still decided to be with me that's the one you

02:55:21.960 know like if you can't accept me for me then that's not the one so then why waste your time

02:55:26.760 yeah just be like hey yeah give him all of you right away no psychologically that's kind of bad

02:55:32.920 because humans tend to like look for the negative in a person at the beginning so at the beginning

02:55:38.360 it's better to ease into it be friends that's why i don't do physical things remember earlier when i

02:55:42.680 was like you can lie and slow drip the truth and then they'll want to date you even though you

02:55:47.960 weren't remember over time yeah that's the same exact process there's a difference between lying

02:55:53.640 and you know just you're lying by omission no that's not true because they i'm not handcuffing

02:55:59.400 them be like no if you watch my tiktok i'm gonna something you but like i'm just they can watch it

02:56:05.720 you know a relationship is learning about somebody i'm literally being open with him being like right

02:56:10.440 now i don't want you to see that side of me so let's take it slow yeah so when i'm ready you can

02:56:15.400 check but if they chose to check it it's not like i'm gonna sue them but this would be like

02:56:19.320 if a woman had like i don't know it's you know she had done something wrong and she's like hey i don't

02:56:24.760 want to tell you this because you're probably not going to want to be with me yeah if you see it well

02:56:28.520 then just break up with her on the spot and trust that you wouldn't want to be with her if you saw

02:56:32.440 those things you said if you're the guy you would break up yeah yeah if you said that then do it i know

02:56:37.560 that's it's just so interesting that yeah so what was his reaction when you told him that okay i respect

02:56:42.760 that interesting yeah there's a very healthy boundary between us yeah and that's what i've

02:56:47.400 been practicing and inside that boundary exists the men's penises who you're trying to see how long

02:56:53.000 they are definitely because that's my boundary i would love to touch their penis and they would

02:56:58.760 love to be touched by me they do they do you're right so why is that a problem so going around the

02:57:04.040 table on this what's your height bare minimum height for a guy for you to date i do not know what a

02:57:09.560 feet thing is what you guys do i'm 175 centimeters and what do you want to have an answer on how what's

02:57:18.520 the minimum height of a man you would date actually i do not judge on heights i always wear heels and

02:57:24.040 if he's fine with that i'm fine as well if he has like a natural manly dominant era above him i'm totally

02:57:30.680 down with you i'm fine based yeah okay yeah um five five and i would just have like a preference like

02:57:39.880 it increases my attraction to you if you're taller

02:57:44.920 i'm five three i'd say the same thing obviously it's not like a deal breaker if someone's short i

02:57:50.840 dated a guy that was five five but uh five six is actually the male standard average on like a global

02:57:58.440 scale i i think united states i'm not sure but five six is the average male height i think in the

02:58:04.120 u.s it's like in the u.s it's five nine or five ten yeah really yeah we're eating beef girls are good

02:58:09.240 lucky darling in the netherlands we are tall the men are 193 two meters everybody is tall as

02:58:16.360 fuck i'm small the dutch are super tall i'm very small i'm very little in the netherlands

02:58:21.480 actually that's greatly interesting we are tall uh i'm five two my minimum would probably be like

02:58:27.720 five six ish but i usually date like a five nine like that's probably my preference like five nine

02:58:32.680 five eight so because i like i like closer to my height okay i i've never been tested on this but i

02:58:41.640 think i don't care i'm like really incredibly attracted to really intelligent men and kind of

02:58:47.640 the way they look falls by the wayside but i've never been tested so i don't know

02:58:54.120 i i don't care i've dated a woman who's taller than me so i don't think guys care no no there's

02:59:00.120 no way why would that matter yeah i'm five one and i would say probably like five five okay minimum

02:59:07.880 yeah okay how tall is your husband he's five nine five ten okay cool rock and roll rock and roll we

02:59:15.720 got a cut we got a chat here from curtis leone the the excuse me the dependa using base housing

02:59:22.760 standards is an eight if she would have stayed she would have had two to three kids gained 200 pounds

02:59:28.360 and driven her fat cart around the commissary to stock up on potato chips that's hilarious

02:59:34.200 um i don't know i i got to a point believe it or not i actually um when i was leaving my ex

02:59:41.480 um i was overweight and i i lost 60 pounds over two years since i've been away from him

02:59:48.120 um okay i liked it i looked at myself in the mirror and like didn't like how i looked so i

02:59:52.760 think i'd have the uh nick we're gonna go to twitch really quick guys go to twitch.tv

02:59:57.160 slash whatever drops a follow and a prime sub if you have one twitch.tv

03:00:03.000 slash whatever and uh chart i do want to thank you for the gifted 50 subs man thank you so much

03:00:09.800 man i really appreciate it you're a legend and uh oh uh i also think the primes might be bugged

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03:00:24.600 just open up another tab drops a little sub in the chat okay so let's get into some of the uh pre-show

03:00:31.880 notes here we have who do we have here where do we start where do we start there's a lot of notes uh

03:00:38.120 okay why don't we do isis isis you had some interesting i was just gonna pee but too bad

03:00:49.000 okay uh so in your instagram it says tell netflix i need my own reality show yeah

03:00:56.920 why why i think what do you mean what like you don't think i deserve one

03:01:01.880 um i mean but what what would the show be about like your life it would be my life i would love to

03:01:10.600 be sponsored by all kinds of brand to make a documentary or kind of reality show of me learning

03:01:16.440 different things and document my progress to show people that no matter what age you are

03:01:22.520 the beginning of learning is clumsy is stupid and i because i'm not afraid to make a fault myself i would

03:01:27.160 like to show people that in the process i can work with different like like maybe athlete athletes

03:01:33.400 in their field or musician in their field to learn things like that on your instagram you made a post

03:01:38.520 that you've decided in 2024 you'll become the most unhinged version of yourself yeah has that been true

03:01:45.880 that has been absolutely true and i have paid heavy heavy price for it but definitely reaped great

03:01:51.560 rewards as well okay yeah and there was a clip on your instagram uh there we have a couple clips from

03:02:01.160 you actually before we get into some of those though uh you had some crazy unique dating stories you went

03:02:06.440 on a second date with a guy and he you asked for a tiffany gold bracelet in order to go on the date

03:02:13.080 and he complied yeah whoa i want his number so um

03:02:23.640 the way it happened is like there's one time i was at the mark which is a pretty fancy bar in new

03:02:28.120 york city and i met this guy and guy and this his friend and i didn't realize at the time but turns

03:02:35.240 out they are dating but they're also open so we afterwards we went to the box to see a show and so

03:02:42.440 that's how i got to meet this guy and the second day i was in mexico at the time i got a one-way ticket

03:02:48.760 to mexico no return trip but this guy was only in new york for two days so i was like okay in order

03:02:54.760 for me to get back like it's a lot like i have so you know like there's a lot of hassle i don't want

03:02:59.960 to leave yet so he paid for the tickets he paid for the gold bracelet because that was like in order

03:03:06.520 to see i'm gonna do that did you hook up with him not on that date but later actually did that was the

03:03:11.400 first threesome i ever did was with him and his girlfriend like later yeah is that the bracelet

03:03:17.160 oh no this is not that one i just wanted to know she's wearing it yeah how much is a tiffany gold

03:03:22.600 bracelet it's about twenty five hundred dollars and wait but you asked for it right yeah so i said

03:03:29.720 um buy me something then and he said what designer do you like i said i like tiffany but i don't like

03:03:34.840 silver and he he was like okay give me some examples so all the examples i so i remember

03:03:41.400 the price

03:03:45.480 and i'm sorry everything so

03:03:48.920 what uh not you but the guy's pathetic no i don't think he's pathetic because i definitely think

03:03:56.200 what's the difference between sex work and what you did i didn't have sex with him

03:04:00.280 because then but you did no that was like way later but he know he would get something out of

03:04:05.560 you but obviously bro i'd be a fucking poor broke man for free okay who doesn't give me

03:04:11.800 shit so what is the difference between an escort getting paid and you getting like a sugar daddy

03:04:16.520 what is the difference between you your boyfriend giving you something because you asked for it

03:04:21.800 so right now in new york city it's hard to claim someone as boyfriend because everybody is

03:04:26.120 dating modes like it's like looking around a lot so it sounds like you have a guy who wants to be

03:04:30.360 your boyfriend he does want to be my boyfriend but i don't want to be his girlfriend it sounds

03:04:34.520 like that other guy put you on layaway what is a layaway layaway is when you start paying for

03:04:39.080 something but you don't have enough money to get it right now so you just pay a little bit every

03:04:43.400 month so you can get that tv for later oh am i the tv you're the tv yeah but he's not getting the tv he

03:04:50.040 got the tv him and his boyfriend got the tv he got a two-for-one or girlfriend i'm so sorry i'm

03:04:55.320 because i wanted to have a threesome for a first time is that wrong like you guys know what you

03:04:59.960 did isn't wrong i mean against me because have you thought that i want to just find you very

03:05:05.000 interesting we are not against you no no no not against no not against me but against this opinion

03:05:08.920 like why is it that it's why is it are you compare that to sex work because why can i be the one

03:05:14.920 deciding i want to do the threesome and gift is a completely different thing why is it that in your

03:05:19.480 mind you would you have had a threesome with him if you didn't buy him the bracelet you said that he

03:05:23.640 bought you the ticket and the bracelet so you could go see him so in a way that is a transaction

03:05:28.440 a transaction yeah but everything in the world is a transaction there's nothing wrong with it

03:05:35.160 it's nothing was this was say i i got a sugar daddy that's fine was this that's not a sugar daddy like

03:05:41.160 i only had sex with him once and that's the threesome i wanted to have for the first time in

03:05:45.480 my life on my birthday why is that wrong was it really your first threesome yes i guarantee you i swear

03:05:50.680 to god i swear to god that's my one and only threesome that's why i'm so proud to announce it

03:05:55.720 guys that's like the truth and you guys are like oh shoot like literally that was a glorious moment

03:06:00.680 of my life and i wanted it wait i haven't made any negative assumptions by the way i just asked you

03:06:06.040 what the difference between yeah what you did was yeah it's very different because one is that these two

03:06:12.360 things are different getting a gift because i want him to get me again you sound like a prostitute

03:06:16.840 explaining to the police why she shouldn't be arrested because she was receiving gifts for

03:06:21.880 her time not her body she didn't sleep with him because he gave her the bracelet would you have

03:06:27.160 slept with him we know each other for a year but she went on a date with him for literally we know each

03:06:32.760 other for a year and you guys are saying that if he not not bought you the ticket if he not

03:06:37.720 bought you the bracelet to go see him i wouldn't i wouldn't go travel to mexico is freaking far from

03:06:43.720 new york you think i'm gonna go see him if he doesn't give me something no one is putting any

03:06:48.920 negative light no yeah i know i'm just saying if he wasn't buying you the bracelet would you still

03:06:54.680 suck his dick or not i never sucked his dick no yeah for the tree summer we want to call it i'm

03:06:59.640 dutch i don't care if he would you even saw him again yeah if he didn't buy you the bracelet i gotta

03:07:05.960 interrupt a little bit we'll come back to it really quick going back to you so you gave yourself a rating of

03:07:11.640 10 um so do you consider yourself the most attractive girl at the table um i mean in i'm

03:07:18.120 like myself i don't everybody's beautiful in their own unique way i'm not gonna

03:07:21.800 women get scared to say that women get scared to say that well that's messed up to say you're the

03:07:27.080 only girl myself and i you're the only girl who said you were 10 so are you if but but you you have

03:07:33.960 you gave yourself the highest rating at the table do you think you're the most beautiful girl at the

03:07:37.720 table no i think they're all beautiful in different ways than me like i have black hair

03:07:41.720 like you got the beautiful red hair you got that there's everybody just looks very different

03:07:46.680 oh everybody just looks very they're on your level then i think they're all i think they've rated

03:07:51.480 themselves very low compared to what they should be none of them are more attractive than you though

03:07:56.840 no i think that they're more attractive in different ways more attractive in different ways yeah like

03:08:02.200 like we got a blonde we got like we got everybody different you know yeah but being blonde in and of

03:08:08.200 itself is typically not going to be sufficient no well they they all look good it's just that we all

03:08:15.160 are different people and beauty is subjective so me saying i i get like lots of hate i get told i look

03:08:21.800 ugly all the time but i'm so used to it i've been doing social media since i was 14 okay like i'm very

03:08:27.560 used to it and i understand you get told you're ugly all the time yes and i get called fat i get

03:08:32.680 called ugly and i mean i'm not mad i don't listen to it i don't really care if people want to hate

03:08:38.040 on the way i mean it seems like you're actually receiving uh albeit insulting feedback on your looks

03:08:46.600 so the 10 rating let me ask you a question if you were to be rated by say a group of a thousand men

03:08:53.320 what do you think the average rating would be for you so i think that i have some features that are

03:08:59.640 considered conventionally attractive and some features that are not like i'm more hourglass

03:09:03.240 but then obviously some men prefer like thinner women some men don't like i have a big nose i have

03:09:08.440 a very big polish nose and like some people don't like that like that's that's something i get hate on

03:09:14.120 a lot and i mean i'm not gonna i just it's all subjective i think probably they would say yes but i i'm

03:09:21.240 not gonna lie like i do feel like i get hit on a lot i feel like i would get rated okay like i think

03:09:27.160 i'm more attractive than are we arriving at an answer soon or like an eight maybe

03:09:33.720 okay but i think that many why do you think there's a difference between what you think

03:09:39.080 so you think you're a 10 but yes the average of what a thousand men would rate you as an eight

03:09:43.800 why do you think there's a difference there um because not everybody likes the same thing

03:09:47.960 right but this would be the average so in this cohort of a thousand men there could be some men

03:09:53.080 that yeah you attend and some people are like oh i only date blondes so you're a two like everybody

03:09:58.120 likes different things you know does that really exist yes i mean it's well hold on but so do you

03:10:05.720 let me ask you a question a guy who only dates blondes do you think he would prefer to date a woman who's

03:10:11.720 facially beautiful but is a brunette versus an ugly blonde woman which do you think he would rather

03:10:18.520 choose or date the um attractive one the brunette one well then it's i mean based on this it's clear

03:10:28.120 to me that being blonde is not enough to shift the needle yes but i'm saying like i mean it's not real

03:10:35.240 like it's not like we're all ranked there's no like objective number that all of us are

03:10:40.040 it's all subjective i listen i like really ugly men like i love an ugly man with a big messed up

03:10:46.040 nose i love big yes a big messed up nose and all my friends are like ew why are you doing that ugly

03:10:50.840 man i'm like well he's a 10 to me like it's all there's no objective well hold on but you said he's

03:10:56.280 ugly yes but like i like ugly men no but how are you able to come to the determination he's

03:11:03.080 ugly because people want to call him ugly people like all of the boys i've dated ever people are

03:11:09.160 like oh why would you date him but you get a lot of negative comments as well telling you you're ugly

03:11:13.320 so why aren't you ugly then i'm ugly to some people but you call another man ugly because other people

03:11:19.800 telling he's ugly and you say a lot of people calling me ugly so why aren't you then like a five or

03:11:25.960 six instead of a ten why are women delusional what what is attractive what what is uh what are

03:11:32.760 ugly qualities to you as compared to attractive qualities like when you date an ugly man what is

03:11:37.720 ugly about him that's like undesirable but you get over that it's not undesirable it's just that i

03:11:42.920 when i think of the word ugly i think of because it's all subjective for example i have a big uh hump

03:11:48.440 nose some people don't like that but i figure that makes a man a 10 to me i like a big nose and so like

03:11:54.280 it's all just like i'm not gonna lie beauty is subjective and a lot of the ideas of where we

03:11:58.600 get beauty like the ideas of beauty are like at least we're in america it's like american standards

03:12:04.360 you know what i mean yeah like the blue eyes the blonde hair the the standards are i don't think

03:12:09.160 that's a lot of people find the same thing attractive right standards are being made because a lot of

03:12:15.240 people find the same person attractive the same features right different country you're right in

03:12:20.440 different country the beauty standard can be so drastically different you can rate someone a

03:12:25.480 one and in china it will be a 10 to seriously it so i said i'm a european too and like wait hold on

03:12:32.600 you're saying like a woman who's a 10 in china is going to be a one in the u.s i mean that could

03:12:38.520 happen yes even though wait hold on but hold on so you you aren't aware of the phenomenon that white men

03:12:47.400 and western countries tend to lean towards being white white men actually tend to assess uh asian

03:12:54.120 women as very attractive they do yeah well that's true but what i'm saying is that there exists like

03:13:01.480 the beauty standards are different a lot of women are really popular here in america you guys treat as

03:13:08.200 actresses in in our country when we were growing up we're like what we would never like even pick her out

03:13:14.120 of the street that's our perception so when i come to us i realize oh my god like the big ass is in

03:13:20.760 like in china if you're big ass you'll get lipo like if you beat like a stick the skinnier it looks

03:13:25.800 like this little like chopsticks so it's like so different drastically different and it changes by

03:13:30.600 decades too he's so different yeah if you look at the portrait of the ming dynasty like women are

03:13:36.520 beautiful like very curvy and they have like no chin because it was such a very wealthy looking

03:13:42.520 you know that's beauty and it's different because they were natural back then now we go to the plastic

03:13:47.080 surgery because it's because the standards are different now it changes so much everything changes

03:13:52.120 like that and like i mean i think it's kind of um a little bit disrespectful to call me delusional

03:13:56.360 because i'm addressing the fact that most men not everybody thinks i'm a 10 because listen i think i'm

03:14:01.320 a 10 and you asked me what i thought you didn't ask me what everybody else thinks and so you're not

03:14:06.360 going to change my opinion of myself by being disrespectful to me and well i don't think it's

03:14:11.480 disrespectful if you're actually delusional you literally is a 10 to a lot of chinese men why because

03:14:17.800 first of all your nose is really tall you know in china people would put so much stuff to make their

03:14:22.680 nose tall and the reason i realized that is when i was younger i watched a tv show this actress has

03:14:26.840 really tall nose and then like and then i was just thinking yeah sorry i'm interrupting i just

03:14:32.280 think it's you're a 10 and i think is a 10 a person who has no room for improvement no i do have room

03:14:37.400 for improvement but i but regardless i still love myself at all times that's great i think wait did

03:14:42.520 you say you were going to be better looking in 10 years time yeah but i mean 20 years time um i mean

03:14:48.120 or i forgot your answer just you didn't ask me the 20 years i mean maybe probably i would look older but

03:14:53.640 like i think i'll probably look good for like a old but so will you be better looking no probably

03:14:58.200 not no 38 as compared sorry you're 21 excuse me 20 will you be better looking at 31 as compared to

03:15:03.160 now at 21 um i think yes because i probably i like for i'm starting my career out i'm making more money

03:15:09.880 i'm able to get more cosmetic procedures in the next month i get like my whole body done um for the

03:15:15.720 most part not a bbl but well one thing though so if you're going to be better looking in 10 years time

03:15:21.320 how can you be pot how can you possibly be a 10 now if you'll be better looking because 10 is

03:15:27.800 the top you can go you can't be better looking than a 10 i i love myself right now and i would

03:15:33.560 be completely fine like if i just stayed like this the rest of my life i'm a very confident person

03:15:38.200 um but it's like i can still i'm always and also society is always changing so like for example like

03:15:44.760 you look at the beauty trends of what women look like however many years ago the little thin eyebrows

03:15:48.760 all that stuff it's like it's constantly changing like you might like like the clothing and all the

03:15:54.360 everything changes and in 10 years it could be completely different and i think i'll look good

03:15:59.400 for that time well i have another question then uh you said you're going to be getting

03:16:04.120 how many plastic surgery procedures are you getting i'm getting lipo in my arms and i'm

03:16:08.760 getting 360 lipo which is your waist and i already have a very small waist why because i want to

03:16:14.680 i feel like you know like when you play video games and you have like the character in the skin you

03:16:17.880 save up you get the skin you like upgrade i'm like oh like this will be like i don't know and

03:16:22.360 also have to think i'd probably make more money like i mean maybe not so so you're getting like i

03:16:28.040 do you're getting lipo in the arms yes lipo in the belly and i'm getting a small implant

03:16:31.800 and then hold on hold on yes hold on well in addition to my other question again how can you

03:16:40.360 possibly be a 10 now if you need to get these cosmetic surgeries no one said i needed them it's

03:16:47.800 just well you're getting them regardless well i am in the adult industry and i probably would make

03:16:52.520 more money if i was like a lot of that's a kind of a big thing and i'm so what will you be okay so but

03:16:58.520 these procedures are going to improve your looks yes so then what number will you be after the

03:17:05.240 procedures i will always consider myself a 10 i always i do what i want with the way i

03:17:09.800 look but how can if it's increasing your physical attractiveness bro you can all down these specifics

03:17:15.080 you want me to say i'm like a not i don't i don't care what you say i really don't care what you think

03:17:18.680 about how i look that's fine i think the question i don't care that your self-perception it's more

03:17:23.240 about like the free market doesn't think you're a 10 is what he's saying and i think that's wrong i

03:17:28.360 think you're not delusional i think he's wrong because he's not thinking about other markets

03:17:31.960 there's american market there's chinese she lives in the united states so she's the public figure

03:17:37.560 only fan is everywhere right you think just to be clear you think she's a 10 in korea she can be a

03:17:43.000 10 to some moment yeah you're beautiful yes i'm fat in korea i'm fat in a lot of why are we just like

03:17:49.240 debating her looks yeah it's kind of like why like you really like you can like listen you can think

03:17:54.440 i'm not a 10 i don't care listen i i don't care and i really don't care what you think about but i

03:17:58.200 i think it's so crazy to get on a podcast and debate how a woman looks i don't well i'll tell

03:18:03.720 you why it's important and let me also just why don't we spend 20 minutes like 15 minutes yeah

03:18:11.240 oh girls i think you're feuding the wrong way to be no no no no not the wrong way you're saying or

03:18:16.840 her answer or anything don't like come after me jesus christ you're saying why are you feuding the

03:18:22.440 point of view la la la la la etc etc are you all right well it's kind of like stressful you're

03:18:27.880 getting me on a podcast to debate how i look and i've already said i don't care we we talked about

03:18:33.000 like can you stop talking and it's a little bit stressful and i'm not gonna lie you're kind of

03:18:36.600 being a dickhead right now can you give her some tissue paper please yeah go get it then

03:18:42.040 i'm good but it's a little bit overwhelming i have a full table of people you do social media and i do

03:18:47.000 social media i'm on live every day doing all my social media but it's overwhelming it is overwhelming

03:18:51.880 and you're kind of being a dickhead because what did i do well i thought you didn't care i mean

03:18:56.120 hell i don't care but it's overwhelming that's badgering it's not badgering and you just want

03:18:59.880 to keep talking about it over and over again for god knows how long how much longer you want to go

03:19:03.400 on about it i don't give a fuck call me at eight i don't give a fuck i don't care what the

03:19:06.360 fuck you want to call me i already said that i think i'm a 10 and this discussion is really pointless

03:19:10.680 well it does have a point so um okay well i guess i'm ugly then i don't care what he was trying to

03:19:15.800 say well how about you let me make yeah okay go ahead go ahead i've been interrupted i've been

03:19:22.840 interrupted like three times in a row i'm trying to make my point but go ahead go ahead i'm gonna

03:19:26.840 let you speak for yourself go ahead let the man speak i just think that he was trying to say if

03:19:32.200 you think you're a 10 now that if you're getting work done then isn't there room for improvement

03:19:40.040 he's not saying that you're not beautiful you are beautiful no i already i i get the point he's

03:19:44.840 trying to make but it's like but it's like i don't know like kylie jenner all these beautiful women

03:19:49.480 they can they can they even say they're a ton and they can still go get stuff done kylie regrets

03:19:53.880 it though yeah that's i don't think they're beautiful i don't know it's so subjective like

03:19:59.080 exactly can we let him make this point okay so uh you you take issue with me using the word

03:20:06.840 delusional so let me just provide a definition characterized by or holding false beliefs or

03:20:12.280 judgments about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary

03:20:19.880 so or having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions so i think the reality is there's a

03:20:28.040 lot of women who come on the show by the way we ask this question every single show aware and you

03:20:32.440 always do this no don't always do it i mean if a girl gives herself a seven or even if she gives

03:20:38.040 herself seven but she's not seven i don't really push it but to say you're a 10 is to say that you are

03:20:42.840 on par with the most beautiful women in the world and i'm not sure i'm prepared to like

03:20:48.440 i'm sure i'm not really sure i'm prepared to accept that some men will think she's more

03:20:54.280 beautiful than the most beautiful person like i said i like ugly men i don't care what some men

03:20:59.880 think who's some of the most attractive men you would ever see i would turn them down immediately

03:21:05.000 over like some like mid white boy like that's just how it is and it's subjective well it's not

03:21:11.000 subjective because you've just made a categorization uh categorization so you said there's beautiful

03:21:16.680 men and there's mid men why are you able to make a an objective determination about someone's physical

03:21:22.600 appearance but you can't do that to yourself um she didn't make objective judgment it was subjective

03:21:30.440 right you think someone she said there's beautiful men and there's mid men that's a categorization

03:21:36.360 yeah she categorized it in her mind she thinks he's ugly and someone thinks she's beautiful

03:21:41.960 it's in his mind it's a but she's saying she's saying she likes to date those men who she's made

03:21:48.040 a judgment and a determination on that they are less physically attractive by some sort of objective

03:21:55.480 metric that's not conventionally right you might be attracted to men but for other reasons like maybe he's

03:22:01.480 he's got a good personality i'm not in it for like like literally like i'm so not it's just it is

03:22:08.040 bad at the personality and i don't care like just because i say they're ugly doesn't like maybe

03:22:12.440 conventionally speaking they're they're considered ugly but not to me okay so and i literally it's so

03:22:18.520 like dude like you're literally on a podcast debating a 21 how old are you 21 i'm 21 you're debating

03:22:24.120 how is that relevant because it's your grown-ass man what and you asked to be on the show

03:22:29.960 yeah this is a show about dating relationships and how women and men perceive each other and

03:22:35.960 themselves we've been talking about this very long time the podcast is six hours or whatever we're

03:22:41.160 just filling time here having a discussion okay well i'm over it i'm done i think it's just a matter

03:22:47.320 of opinion that's what i've said the whole time and you're going to say i don't think you should let

03:22:50.920 it get to you yeah you're doing great no no no you're literally pretty for a living yeah

03:22:57.400 that's the good point well yeah but but you might not be a 10 for a living but you're doing great you

03:23:01.720 shouldn't be emotional you're doing all right no i'm not it's i'm upset because listen i'm an emotional

03:23:06.360 person and it's just a little bit overwhelming i think beauty is in the eyes of the beholder

03:23:10.920 obviously i've got honestly if you are making categories about men what you are saying you are

03:23:17.240 right you have to be honest to yourself as a woman in what category do i fail bro it's crazy to me

03:23:22.600 because like women are super picky and you guys literally have laundry lists of like what a guy has

03:23:29.160 to meet physically personality wise you you guys have lists of what a guy has to bring to the table

03:23:35.720 but when guys start talking about like okay here's what we want and whenever it gets into the realm of

03:23:40.680 physical appearance which by the way women care way more than men about this i guarantee you you go

03:23:46.920 on a dating app y'all are swiping no on 90 of the dudes without reading their profile instantly you

03:23:53.960 look at the first photo mid mid don't like it y'all are way pickier y'all are way pickier about looks

03:24:00.760 than men so i'm not going to take this like oh this is like misogyny men or like well why they care so

03:24:06.200 much about looks y'all care way fucking more about looks it's okay that you care about looks

03:24:10.520 y'all care way fucking more about that i definitely agree with that and so i'll tell you exactly why

03:24:17.080 it matters and why i push back on what i view as women having an overinflated sense of their own

03:24:25.480 physical attractiveness so let me let me start by asking a question do you think that there are men

03:24:33.320 out there who think that they're more attractive than they actually are yes do you think there are

03:24:38.440 men who think they're hot shit yes but they're not 90 for sure so that's you

03:24:44.280 womp womp but but so you i'm sure you object to men who think they're who's super fucking cocky

03:24:50.520 and who think they're hot shit and think they can you know get all these girls but they don't

03:24:55.160 right yeah but somebody thinks you're that much and more so yes exactly you know who they i'm not saying

03:25:01.560 look there's gonna be guys that are attracted to you that's not what i'm trying to argue here but

03:25:05.720 like if you can say that there are men out there who think that they're hot shit but they ain't

03:25:11.160 nothing but guess what i'm not mad about them saying that you like but you might say they're delusional

03:25:17.080 um i mean maybe but i mean i don't know if they it depends because a lot of the a lot of them like

03:25:25.320 maybe i don't like them but like there are other women that do there's a reason they're like that

03:25:29.240 actually i would say that so like listen i'm in college do you know how many boys that i like i

03:25:36.680 have to deal with that actually i gotta push back on this specific thing too so i would actually argue

03:25:42.120 that in terms of what men will find attractive men have uh in terms of what they deem physically

03:25:49.400 attractive men have a much wider uh margin of like women they'll find attractive like i would say

03:25:56.920 most men find most women attractive most women definitely don't find most men attractive and

03:26:03.080 this is why you have average women who think they deserve the fucking world they're mid chicks who

03:26:08.680 deserve like a top tier dude you don't and what's average women deserve average men average men deserve

03:26:14.920 average women and what's going on hold on what's going on in the dating marketplace especially on dating

03:26:19.880 apps you got average women who can get sexual access to really attractive men they'll never get

03:26:25.320 commitment but they'll spend their 20s fucking the attractive dudes never getting commitment

03:26:30.200 getting passed around by fuck boys and then when it's time to settle when they're in their late 20s or

03:26:35.000 30s they're going to feel entitled to a certain caliber of guy that'll never give them commitment

03:26:40.200 they're going to settle for a guy who's actually in their league that guy's not going to get good

03:26:44.520 treatment it's going to be terrible for the relationship but a lot of women because it's a global

03:26:49.080 sexual marketplace you can hop on instagram you can hop on a dating app and get average chicks can

03:26:55.320 get dicked down like three times a day if they want to yeah they can that's not like men are just more

03:27:00.920 sexual yeah they don't actually like but here's the thing so so here's the thing so for a guy our league

03:27:08.360 our league is the women that we can sleep with y'all league is the men you can get commitment and

03:27:15.000 marriage from because as a girl you can sleep with a guy it's not immediately clear if if you can sleep

03:27:23.000 with a guy you can always get him in or with near certainty get him into a relationship but as a guy

03:27:29.560 if i can sleep with a girl there's a very strong chance i can get her into a relationship that's so

03:27:34.840 false what is the that's so false what's the basically 80 90 of the men i date i don't want

03:27:40.680 a relationship with that well hold on there's strumpets there's obviously strumpets that are

03:27:45.240 fine engaging in casual sex the the i don't think the saying is that when women are nice to men men

03:27:53.160 feel entitled to sex when men are nice to women women feel entitled to commitment no no i don't feel

03:27:59.480 entitled i don't want to commit to most of the men i see that's an l for you yeah because they're

03:28:05.000 really losers they are losers yeah that's what i'm saying i fucked losers that's broke yeah that's

03:28:11.880 an l because i need to get off man sometimes you said you don't even get off and you said you don't

03:28:17.080 you have your vibrator i always bring my tiny vibrator with me it's like this big okay if he can't get

03:28:22.440 me off i have my ways sometimes you need a warm body using a good cuddle what's wrong with that

03:28:27.480 i separate business with stds cuddle you get stds from cuddle do you know how many guys are my

03:28:33.720 cuddle buddies but it's not sex then you're not having sex with them and then you don't want

03:28:36.920 you don't want condoms but what is your ideal men do you think that stops an std oh so you're

03:28:43.560 saying i shouldn't have sex when i want to have sex with someone because i want to scratch and itch

03:28:49.080 like that's so like well yeah it's called sexual discipline what do you have sexual discipline you

03:28:54.280 never ever have sex with a girl without a condom or like you're just wait okay we're talking about

03:28:58.280 two totally different things here okay so i just don't know i understand why you're like thinking

03:29:02.840 what i did have is unreasonable it's like very you're an adult you can do what you want yeah exactly

03:29:07.880 i don't know what i'm actually against like uh promiscuity culture i'm not promiscuous i just

03:29:14.280 want to cuddle someone sometimes i want to fuck someone's yeah you're promiscuous no you are

03:29:19.320 promiscuous oh wait wait but how is your ideal man what does he looks like or is he just your

03:29:24.840 ideal man like a sex doll or something because i don't know it's like at different stage of my

03:29:29.320 life i have different ideal for example with my five-year relationship i was with the same guy

03:29:33.400 for five years if you are married phase where that's when i actually did one night stand and

03:29:37.960 i regretted it and then there are times where i'm like seriously want to face someone it's like

03:29:42.280 people change throughout their years and they want different things so i don't understand what's like

03:29:46.600 so if you ever met it then would you say that like if you could go back would you still have

03:29:51.560 one night stand i would have because at that time if i didn't have one night stand i wouldn't have no

03:29:55.560 i regret it you know what i mean here we'll get to that in a sec to wrap up on the whole 10 thing

03:29:59.880 here's what i see going on in the dating marketplace you have and we've i've spoken to over a thousand

03:30:05.720 women on the show it's not all women but uh i don't know if it's a majority or who knows the exact

03:30:10.760 number but there's enough women who are totally average totally average they don't want to date

03:30:17.480 average men that's a problem for average men not for them no well it's also a problem for the women

03:30:23.960 because then they end up getting into relation well relationships with men who will never commit

03:30:29.000 to them i will believe it if a woman said it that you've read yeah where did you read that what's the

03:30:33.480 source i mean or do women say that to you the dating apps are proof enough so if you have

03:30:39.400 what dating app tinder tinder all these all these dating apps have really uh not all of the dating

03:30:46.280 apps but they've released data on this women swipe no on 90 that's true yo chart dude thank you for

03:30:52.600 the big gifted 50 subs man really appreciate it thank you chart 166 um yeah i mean this is a thing but

03:30:59.320 why do you think women it's not 90 it's 95 i think what he's meaning okay but why do you think

03:31:05.320 women are unhappy maybe women let me let me look at this because of their choices thank you for

03:31:09.560 getting this different hold on hold on hold on hold on stop they have a different few okay the

03:31:14.280 experiences of men and women on tinder women match with 36 of those they like while men match with less

03:31:19.480 than two percent uh like and match like but no match pass so women are super picky when it comes to looks

03:31:28.520 okay and and just in general they're super picky and so if women are overlooking men that are actually

03:31:37.000 in their league because they think for example if you think that you're a 10 and you genuinely believe

03:31:46.120 it certainly you must be deserving of a man who's a 10 and so what is that going to look like a man who

03:31:53.320 thinks is a 10 who she thinks is a 10 that's important to add yeah yeah she thinks it's a 10

03:31:59.800 not in the world most people say all these women they want to date men are more attractive yeah i

03:32:03.640 already said i like the men that are not considered attractive i like the little shorties yeah what

03:32:08.600 she thinks is a 10 maybe she likes broke guys maybe that's a no i i mean someone likes homeless

03:32:13.160 people

03:32:19.080 i'm not saying you so it's like in her eyes so yeah if she thinks a 10 she will find someone who

03:32:23.880 she thinks is a 10 that doesn't mean you will think he's a 10 well i think look again the big

03:32:28.360 issue here is that i see going on in the dating marketplace is average women don't want to date

03:32:34.120 average men true and then but here's the problem if i'm an average guy yeah and i want to get sexual

03:32:40.040 access to above average women i can't exactly and that sounds like your problem no no no hold on

03:32:46.040 i don't have i don't object to that yeah here's the problem average women yeah can get sexual access

03:32:52.840 to above average men yeah that's nice i don't well uh but here's the thing here's the thing this is

03:32:59.880 is what who's letting them in who's letting them have that access well hold on who's more to blame

03:33:04.680 like two percent of men or the fifty percent of women who are engaged in the hookup culture

03:33:10.280 they're like more selective women are more selective sorry women are more right but so

03:33:15.560 i'll grant to you that there are hyper promiscuous super attractive men that sleep with a

03:33:20.760 fuck ton of women but it's not clear to me if a if it's a small proportion of men versus like let's

03:33:26.600 say here's the thing also i would say that almost almost any woman if she wants to has access to

03:33:34.920 hookup culture can't say the same thing about men that's true most men don't have access to hookup

03:33:41.000 culture because they aren't attractive enough to be able to be sleeping with that many women

03:33:45.960 consistently whereas an average girl hold on an average girl a lot lizard okay an average girl if she

03:33:54.680 wanted to could fuck three new guys a day and what's the problem here the problem is the problem

03:34:03.400 the problem is is you have average women chasing after men that are out of their league yes and then

03:34:10.440 they think they're entitled to those men they'll never get commitment and then when they finally have

03:34:15.080 to settle down in their late 20s or 30s they're gonna like have all these experiences with all these men

03:34:21.560 who are more attractive than their partner and they're gonna think like i'm settling but actually

03:34:25.880 they're not they're actually not two points to that one why do you think she they're unhappy maybe

03:34:31.800 they settle and they're happy and they live their 20s you know dating hot men and then in their 30s

03:34:36.280 they can settle with the average men and that's great for them cheer for them so what's wrong with

03:34:40.520 that i don't see a problem so there's this thing so um can i ask you a question i want you to think right

03:34:47.080 now the most attractive guy you've ever dated and been with can you there's a few okay it depends like

03:34:55.240 do you want the european style or like more scrawny doctor smart style it depends so what can you think

03:35:01.080 of one man in particular who was like leaps and bounds above them all no i can't because everybody

03:35:06.440 have their pros and cons that's why you cannot objectively rate a person like someone might be

03:35:10.520 really tall and handsome and strong and have a small dick some other guy would be a very fat dick but

03:35:15.240 it's like kind of short so it's like you can never ever what's your subjective opinion about

03:35:20.200 the most because i can't because when you're with them it's a different feeling sometimes it make you

03:35:24.280 feel calm sometimes it make you feel passionate how can you decide that that's crazy have you ever

03:35:29.320 been in love before i've been in love every time i i i i date i believe you yeah yeah if there's no

03:35:36.760 more question i really need to pee yeah i'm shocked okay go pee i'm so shocked giovanni jady donated two

03:35:42.440 hundred dollars brian's telling the truth when i was a dgen i slept with tons of women that were

03:35:49.160 mid because i was bored drunk etc but only wifed the nines shameful behavior but it applies to all dgen

03:35:57.240 men yo giovanni appreciate it man look i mean there's a lot of guys that will i think one of the big

03:36:03.160 things and i've brought this up in previous shows is that when it comes to like more casual flings or

03:36:08.440 whatever a guy will sleep down whereas like if a girl's inclined to have like a one night stand or

03:36:13.880 casual thing she'll typically prioritize like going for the most attractive guy she can get whereas

03:36:20.360 when a man's trying to get like casual sex he'll lower his standards for looks so when it comes to a

03:36:26.360 guy will sleep with a girl that just on looks alone he will never be in a relationship with her

03:36:33.960 however i would argue typically that for a woman even to have like casual sex one night stand or

03:36:40.360 whatever in order to have a one night stand or casual sex with a guy he typically has to be at least

03:36:47.560 attractive enough for her to be in a relationship with him it's also dangerous if you're a woman and

03:36:56.040 you don't understand that men will lower their standards and be disgusting and sleep with people

03:37:01.400 who are less than because then you feel special because this guy who you perceive is so hot is

03:37:07.080 choosing you and you're like oh that's crazy but you're you're not special he's he's using you you

03:37:12.440 get a lot of heartbreak after yeah exactly and that's going older you want to settle down you have

03:37:16.680 this fish in your head like oh my god i deserve a minute looks like that well the idea is that he

03:37:22.040 makes you feel so special eventually you're going to meet a normal guy who is in your league he will not

03:37:26.680 make you feel special and now you're like what am i missing here what's going on because you have

03:37:31.160 that version in your head that you deserve some kind yeah you're doing yourself a disservice i i feel

03:37:35.880 like it's a lot those numbers are the way they are because men are just desirous in general more so

03:37:42.200 than women are their sexual desires up here ours is like right here and so that's why i feel personally

03:37:48.600 i think that the numbers are that way so they're just going to settle for whatever they can you know

03:37:54.680 they can do the deed with so well yeah women sleep with who they want and men sleep with who

03:37:58.760 they can exactly let me see if there's any other chats here then we're going to move on to a new

03:38:03.800 topic oh we have quite a few coming in here um peachy can i have you read some of these sure thank

03:38:12.360 you negative 100 girls in the right corner look perpetually offended isis you may not realize it but

03:38:18.280 you seem like a god level gold digger i hope you change otherwise i pity your future signatory don't

03:38:24.280 sue me signatory or science okay what is that word negative 100 appreciate it uh right go ahead

03:38:33.160 didn't know pink dress was a prostitute rescind my last tts shame fine christ isis dating mindset is

03:38:39.800 i'll hide how foul i am until you're in too deep deaf ccp plant she's dated eric salwell i'm not did you

03:38:47.560 date eric swallow swallow who's eric i've never dated eric okay and eric also i am a certified gold

03:38:56.040 digger i am not that's negative 100 she is a certified gold digger she she was uh behind the

03:39:01.080 scenes but she heard it curtis leone oh thank you hold on go ahead red dress is right i myself prefer

03:39:09.160 curvy women because they remind me of dependence i had one i called bluebird she lived in my barracks

03:39:14.760 room for two weeks i had to kick her out to avoid an njp okay thank you curtis leone appreciate it

03:39:21.240 man thank you for the message we have robert tanner coming in oh this is a chart 166 thank you robert

03:39:27.880 appreciate it hey i am chart 166 on twitch just fyi good show one last contribution for tonight any one

03:39:34.360 of us to give ourselves a 10 out of 10 have self-esteem issues coming from a millionaire you have

03:39:39.240 selfie team issues robert do you want to marry me like no you deserve a billionaire

03:39:47.160 does she yes no i do not okay then she does do you deserve a billionaire uh it depends i don't

03:39:53.320 think i think there's a better chance i get to a billion than my husband get to a billion so

03:39:58.840 so i have either way i do not deserve a billionaire i just deserve a home working man

03:40:03.080 andrews lighter donated two hundred dollars asian girl prattled for 10 minutes then told brian to get

03:40:10.680 to the point chef's kiss a lot of prattle uh thank you andrews lighter appreciate it man thank you

03:40:17.560 what does prattle mean tts prattle is like when you speak without a point for a certain amount of

03:40:23.640 time oh so it's like a bad comment yeah you're like prattling oh i'm sorry inconsequential talk that

03:40:30.120 yeah doesn't really further the conversation uh anyways going back to isis here oh the tiffany gold

03:40:36.840 bracelets uh oh so you were saying like so you asked for it it wasn't just like a gift like you

03:40:46.760 asked for it for the second date no i said buy me a gift he said he said i'm in new york for two days

03:40:54.360 um and i said it's too much for me it's too much trouble for me to get back then buy me a gift if

03:40:59.720 you want to see me and then he said what designer no you said in your pre-show notes i asked for a

03:41:05.000 tiffany gold bracelet in order to go on the date and he complied yeah literally pre-show note i spent

03:41:10.600 like two minutes typing because i don't really want to type in my tiny phone so like what i literally

03:41:14.760 just said was what happened i texted he texted me i'm coming to new york for two days come hang out

03:41:20.760 with me i said no i'm in mexico i don't want to go back he's like uh but it's too much trouble and

03:41:26.360 he begged a little bit i was like okay then uh give me a gift for it you asked for it yeah i've asked

03:41:32.040 that's what happened so wait and but so he paid for your flight back and then he also had to was it

03:41:37.560 a round trip did he send you back to tulum i assume you were in tulum mexico city oh nice that's okay

03:41:43.240 um now going around the table on this do you if you wanted to go on a second date with a guy

03:41:53.240 and he said well you have to buy me a 2500 item would you not just laugh in his face starting with

03:42:03.480 you i would laugh in his face and i would not talk to him i would too but why because he's a man and

03:42:10.120 you're the woman because no it has nothing to do with men and women everybody it has everything to

03:42:14.760 do with what i wanted but what if he wants it it's the same it doesn't matter what he wants

03:42:20.840 it matters what i want so if a guy did that though like let's say you went on the first day with a guy

03:42:25.640 and you want to go on a second date with him yeah and he's like well i it's kind of trouble for me i

03:42:31.240 guess i can go on the second date with you if you spend 2500 on me okay how how would you react i

03:42:37.320 just wouldn't go on a date with him would you laugh i don't know if i would laugh or not maybe

03:42:42.120 would you would you think that's a ridiculous ask yeah i would think maybe he doesn't want to go on

03:42:46.120 a second date that's why he asked for such a thing you would be such an amazing amazing dominatrix or

03:42:51.080 something just embarrassing what about you no i will not do that because you wouldn't do that

03:42:55.880 maybe if i had the money not that way if you had the money you would do it okay maybe i think that's

03:43:02.040 crazy after meeting somebody for only once sure um no but listen like i said i like to spend money

03:43:10.280 on my men but not after a second date uh-uh spend it on my boyfriend not on a second date

03:43:19.160 would you do that it's if a girl straight up mental illness there's no possible way i i can't imagine a

03:43:25.960 scenario where i would even kind of entertain that your man card has to be revoked if you do some

03:43:31.320 shit like that yeah that's insane that's crazy even if you were a millionaire the idea that you

03:43:36.120 would let so because that's actually demeaning the bow is like respect but to ask someone for

03:43:41.400 a monetary gift in order for their time when you have little and you give little you think that's a

03:43:46.040 lot when you have a lot you give a little that's very little so it's like it's about how big you are

03:43:51.640 inside even if a woman asked for a 20 bracelet to go on a date with me i would be like no it's just

03:43:57.880 it's the requirement yeah i would say no because it seems like he's depending on me to i guess

03:44:06.840 be fine be financially ready for everything else okay um let's see you already talked about how you

03:44:14.280 had a threesome with him you said a guy you just started seeing brought me to their dental school

03:44:19.240 graduation party and i made a complete full of yourself right so it's um during covid and because

03:44:28.360 of covid there's no sorry there's no um there are a couple years there's no uh graduation party for his

03:44:37.800 dental school so he finally had one so he didn't have one for three years and then he decided to bring me

03:44:44.200 on a second day or third day maybe i'm cursed on a second day or something yeah and then um i got

03:44:52.360 so at first i wore a red dress he came into my room and asked me to change the dress because he said it

03:44:57.800 would look too too much and then i changed the dress to black and then we went to the party and his friend

03:45:05.720 got drunk and accidentally accidentally spilled wine on my shoes on my dress can you tilt your mic down oh

03:45:13.240 on my shoes just from the from the back here from the back oh my god no no no down there you go

03:45:20.120 oh sorry go ahead on my shoes and on my dress and um and i just broke out crying and i couldn't stop

03:45:26.520 crying because i feel like i was just triggered by something and i just cried all night with him and

03:45:32.040 then he never saw me again you said you groped a guy at the bar because you were bored can we long to

03:45:39.240 the other person for a bit well i got to get through all your notes here okay sure um was this

03:45:45.160 the thing you already told us about i don't think so so there's one time i was at a bar and my friend

03:45:51.800 was hit on by australian dude and she's really interested so i was being a good friend trying to

03:45:56.440 make conversation with the neighboring and then this guy has pretty good big arms really into arms so i

03:46:02.440 started like you know chatting with him talking to him about his arms i was like can i touch it and i

03:46:07.160 started touching his arms and like you know i just started you can tell when a guy likes it so i

03:46:11.800 started you know groping him touching him he really liked me and we left contacts the next day he asked

03:46:17.320 me out but at the time i was like my therapist was like don't date so i decided not to date i said no

03:46:23.080 i'm not dating at the moment two weeks later i was filming a tiktok that's when i had two thousand

03:46:27.400 followers a little less than so i was like i was willing to do anything to increase my views i was

03:46:31.880 catcalling men on the street that was one only time i was catcalling men on the street and that

03:46:36.360 me and my friend were setting up a camera and then we did that for two hours and the last five minutes

03:46:42.120 i was like okay just one last guy and then i'm gonna go home and then this guy walks past two guys

03:46:48.360 walk past in suits i can't call them and then they're like oh my god i know you turns out he recognized

03:46:54.760 me from uh two weeks ago and then that's how we met again do you still have therapy yeah that's great

03:47:03.240 what um what can you give me an example of a catcall for a man like what were you doing it's not really

03:47:08.360 catcall like i was really just complimenting them it's really corny it's not moving it on okay you said uh

03:47:15.320 you were brought to you were brought to a and when you say at least the groping you were just like

03:47:20.680 touching his biceps is that it oh sorry what are you actually okay sorry i was reading a negative

03:47:27.880 comment okay about me just ignore it okay repeat the question no please don't play okay

03:47:35.880 so the groping thing yeah it was just like his arms you're just like grabbing no i kind of moved

03:47:40.280 it down to the chest and the belly and then down a little bit you touch his penis

03:47:44.600 it's hurting at the moment okay um you said you were brought to a surprise date at a michelin star

03:47:51.960 restaurant he prepared a surprise with a diamond ring and champagne yeah how much was the diamond ring

03:47:59.400 five thousand dollars from tiffany's and this was a first date second date third date no we we were

03:48:04.760 dating for half a year oh half a year okay and we were serious very serious like talking about

03:48:10.680 was it a proposal or just a here's a gift i don't know if i can say that i don't want to say that

03:48:16.440 here actually so proposal i don't want to say that yeah yeah so a proposal we'll say it for you don't

03:48:21.800 worry what would be wrong if that was if he proposed to you that's no it's just for privacy reasons

03:48:27.320 because some people might know like that i don't know i don't want to say all right um let's see

03:48:34.120 are these men rich i'm sorry brian oh it's okay i just have to are these men rich or are they like

03:48:38.920 are they like doing the most to get you these things i no most of them are my colleagues they're

03:48:44.440 pretty wealthy and but i have dated poor person before like people who make less no like people

03:48:50.760 who make like less no sure you can talk about poor people i grew up poor it's fine no i my parents yeah

03:48:57.640 okay so when you so they're your colleagues so then you have the same amount of money or close to it

03:49:04.680 personally yeah but i spend a lot of it on myself like i spend so much money on myself that's so

03:49:09.240 tough i don't keep anything yeah i have a shopping addiction it's really hard it's so difficult to be

03:49:16.280 a woman but do you like because you take so much care of yourself like you call it is it like that

03:49:22.920 you expect a man to take care of you in the same way you do for yourself like financially with the

03:49:29.080 gifts and stuff like that that would be nice does your father take care of your mother right you

03:49:34.040 expect the gifts financially that's where i learned it from he was the breadwinner um we had a lot of

03:49:39.960 bad things happen to my family but one thing that was really consistent was that he's really a big gift

03:49:44.360 giver and i think that's where i got it from every time he go on business trip he always asked me what

03:49:48.760 i want and i think that's also it's bad it's terrible but he used it as a way to apologize are you an

03:49:55.720 only child no i have a younger brother so he expresses his love with gifts giving isn't that

03:50:02.440 a little bit lonely as well uh i think among my dad's side of family we're not very close but mom's

03:50:08.920 side gave me like a lot of love so like i feel like that filled but if you look like that's your

03:50:14.760 relationship with your daddy only giving you gifts and gifts isn't it a little bit lonely i definitely

03:50:20.680 lack a certain like secure bond with men that's why i was a serious you think but either way is it

03:50:27.240 like when you get gifts is that reminding you of your dad a little bit the bond that you're having

03:50:31.960 yeah because you so you have a little bit of daddy issues i have a lot of daddy issues that's sexy

03:50:37.800 thank you okay uh so let's see here uh you went back to the hotel with a tiffany suitcase and the

03:50:45.400 bag of clothes i put into shopping bag during our trip that he noticed and purchased this is the

03:50:50.600 diamond we went to so that trip we went to chicago that's where i got the diamond ring and after i got

03:50:57.800 that on the diamond ring happened on the third or fourth day of the trip the first day i put some

03:51:02.520 clothes in the shopping bag and when i was napping he actually bought it and got it delivered to the

03:51:07.320 hotel room he was proposing all the way down days in nervous as fuck and then so when i got back after

03:51:15.000 the diamond ring i see a suitcase and the clothes i bought was inside it was the best date i've ever

03:51:24.120 had since we're like ruining dating for like everybody do you think do you think you were

03:51:29.160 nice to him like do you think he had like you were kind to him and gentle i'm also a very generous

03:51:34.600 person i got him a very expensive watch also um like for example i took this person on a date before

03:51:41.560 where i it's a surprise broadway ticket wait can you scoot your mic to the edge of the table

03:51:46.280 sorry it was the best seat it was a surprise and it cost a lot of money too okay i don't think about

03:51:51.240 it that way yeah uh so sorry anyways you also said you got too drunk during a date and you were taken

03:51:57.560 by ambulance yeah like you so short version please and leave the sorry at the edge of the

03:52:06.760 table sorry just have um it's just because it was a party and it was like i was really nervous

03:52:14.920 because he's one of the most attractive guys i've dated so i just kept on drinking and then i was like

03:52:20.040 oh i want to take a nap so i leaned against the chair and then i just couldn't wake up they say but

03:52:25.800 i don't remember a quick date nap people take them and then they call the ambulance because they don't

03:52:30.360 know me well enough okay all right just a powerful 10 minutes in the middle of your dinner the asian

03:52:35.000 girl doesn't look anything special if i was hammered damn bro what the fuck i'd give her a 4.2 you're

03:52:39.720 a gold digger i want my money back she wants his 200 back do you want a response or do you have a

03:52:45.560 response to jj matt here no i definitely think some people might think i'm 4.2 okay but that's okay

03:52:53.320 that's why we're friends okay let's see yeah you said that oh all right you guys can bond after the

03:53:00.520 show uh you said that you like to promote healthy female sexual pleasures parentheses orgasms

03:53:08.840 yes okay cool i like female orgasms i think guys do too like other people's or no no no i like i want

03:53:16.200 every woman to know how to pleasure themselves to completion as many times as possible okay um you

03:53:22.360 said you like to encourage girls to do more and date more to gain more experience yeah more data points

03:53:27.960 otherwise your data will be skewed it's not complete okay so like you think women should

03:53:33.320 be dating multiple men at the same time no that's not true i think right now no i i don't think so i

03:53:39.480 think at this point in my life i actually do want to date one person at a time uh now you do yeah now i

03:53:44.280 do but i didn't before like i said i just started getting serious right so let's talk about before you

03:53:50.360 were dating multiple people at the same yeah we're uh would you ever like sleep with multiple people at

03:53:55.000 the same time no because i would be too scared of std okay i get checked like every other week

03:54:03.240 i'm paranoid and anxious if you can tell abstinence too okay yeah but you would be dating then multiple

03:54:12.040 people yeah going on dates like what was the most amount of i i hear this term roster right what was

03:54:18.760 the biggest your roster ever was like i don't think i ever had if so there's one week i had a date

03:54:24.760 every single date with different men um but they're all first dates and i didn't have for second dates

03:54:32.040 with any of the men and there were days where it was so there were one time on tuesday a guy was like

03:54:37.080 can i take you out tomorrow i said i'm booked up tomorrow can you do breakfast so he actually came to

03:54:41.880 my work we had breakfast as a breakfast date and there's a lunch date also so it's like like i

03:54:47.400 squeeze in but they never got a second date it's not no nothing physical so you went on one date

03:54:53.320 every single day of the week there's there was a period of my time i did that for for more than one

03:54:58.200 week i don't know like maybe a couple months i don't know the specifics i don't know you find that

03:55:04.280 many guys that you like enough to put on why do you find where do you find those men what like are

03:55:13.000 they really valuable like she lives in new york yeah she's in new york it's true if you go out

03:55:18.840 you can get like four or five number if you're actually dancing with people and chatting with

03:55:22.760 people do you do you have a brother just curious younger brother what how old is he six years younger

03:55:28.040 than age so he's 21 okay um i'm just curious do you think he has like equivalent like if he wanted

03:55:36.600 to do you think he could get a date with a girl every single day of the week no why is that does he

03:55:42.120 does he ever do you ever talk to him about dating yeah do you think does he struggle first of all i

03:55:46.600 want to just announce this he's a very very private person and if i say anything we don't have to do

03:55:53.160 details tony please forgive your sister but i want to do this we can't say anything about tony

03:56:00.360 you guys everyone be cool you call him by his name his address is uh okay name and everything

03:56:08.840 so what about so he um he likes boys and he's a little feminine yeah ever growing up i always thought

03:56:16.360 that way is he bi or is he gay i think he's gay okay well i can't really go this route then but

03:56:22.120 um if he was straight though do you think he would based on i think like he's a little on the short

03:56:27.720 side and i'm kind of glad he's gay because i think as a woman i i like taller men so i would feel kind

03:56:33.080 of like you know wait hold on he's your brother yeah yeah wait no like what i mean for him because

03:56:39.640 like if he's a guy like i feel like a lot of women would think oh he's short i wouldn't want to date

03:56:45.560 him so like because he's gay i feel like it's less maybe i might be wrong but i feel like they're

03:56:51.160 more lenient to what i think this i mean one of the points i was going to make with this is i feel

03:56:55.560 like it's not that i feel like i know so i women definitely have dating on easy mode compared to

03:57:01.640 men like i mean did you ever go on multiple dates in one day like two dates in one day three dates

03:57:07.480 three dates i don't remember three but two okay you've had two two dates i mean like i would say

03:57:14.120 very few men are able to line up like a date with a different woman every single day of the week i

03:57:20.760 don't know what the percentage is but um and i was asking about your brother because i like to think

03:57:26.680 about like okay well if a woman of you know based on how she looks or whatever this this is her sexual

03:57:34.040 optionality and if you look at like her brother which would be pretty close to her like what would be

03:57:39.880 her looks equivalent uh i often get reports from women that they can get laid super well i mean

03:57:47.400 that's a given with women get laid super easily go on date super easily but then you ask about their

03:57:52.760 brothers and their brothers are significantly struggling to date which uh is just an interesting

03:58:00.920 like your looks equivalent like somebody who shares your genetics yeah is struggling to date like

03:58:07.720 it is interesting so y'all have that on easy mode son um let me read this from fpv flight airborne

03:58:13.960 please do an episode with and with all of the most destructive women asian girl uh desiree the

03:58:19.400 blonde is super hot send me a message who's the oh there you go okay fpv flight airborne there's

03:58:25.480 your husband there you go oh no he's in the military yeah yeah yeah tracks yo thank you fpv appreciate

03:58:32.360 it man uh okay we have let's see you wanted to touch on daddy issues and trauma uh we don't have to

03:58:38.600 go there yeah let's not talk but you have been in therapy for six years yeah yes still right you're still

03:58:46.520 has it helped yeah that's it yeah okay i haven't really just question woman that's a fashionable thing

03:58:55.480 to do i haven't heard anybody who's like gone to therapy and actually like gotten better you know

03:59:04.280 you are the average of the five people around you right so it doesn't surprise me people around you

03:59:08.600 didn't get better because it seemed like well the average for him would be the hundreds of women

03:59:13.720 no we're not around him okay we're not around him i'm not gonna be around him after this

03:59:19.000 but you are currently i am unfortunately unfortunately why is that nothing bro i wouldn't

03:59:28.360 you would have even if you offered to pay me to date you i wouldn't do that i don't want to date

03:59:32.760 i don't want to date you either bro you're fucking crazy i know i know i know there would be murder

03:59:38.120 you've dated a fuck ton of dudes i ain't about that you don't you know nothing about anything you're

03:59:43.400 just making assumptions oh it's all over everybody that you date a lot of it's all over your tick

03:59:47.800 talk oh really everything you see online is real it sounds like something no you're just saying

03:59:51.960 that you are on tiktok telling about your real life so that's not an assumption you're telling

03:59:56.680 about your real life just because i tell stories about different men that means i had sex with

04:00:01.240 many men i didn't say that he didn't say you had sex he didn't say you were what's many but you

04:00:05.560 probably were having sex with them okay make another assumption what else do you assume about me

04:00:10.680 don't get how about you talk about it that's the extent of it okay cool but i mean yeah move on

04:00:16.040 you're trying to be like oh brian really wants to fuck me but gross i don't think you want to

04:00:19.960 fuck me i think no i don't i know that like i accept that fact and i actually have that prediction

04:00:25.800 you know i literally assumed that as soon as i saw you i was like we literally cannot be in the

04:00:30.280 same room but i have to because i said yes why don't you want to be in the same room because of the

04:00:35.720 way he treats women but you i don't think i don't think you said yes i think he said yes you

04:00:40.920 want me oh okay okay he saw your tiktok and thought this this is awesome i gotta get this

04:00:47.560 girl on here pretty much and he was correct because this is entertaining that's true uh wait so sorry uh

04:00:54.760 the objection here is the way that i treat women yeah i just think that how do i treat women i don't

04:01:00.760 know i just think what do you mean you just said it go ahead no i'm fine you can air your criticism i

04:01:06.760 just said it i said that the way you treat women like you make her cry and you really focus on the

04:01:12.840 body thing hold on i'm sorry hold on i made her cry or she cried and you see well i don't really

04:01:21.560 think that you're being a very nice person like yeah i'm not gonna that's just my opinion but i

04:01:26.200 mean i don't care if you think i'm ugly i don't care hold on did i call you ugly no but you called me

04:01:30.360 delusional for thinking that i'm attractive no not for thinking you're attractive you said you were a

04:01:35.720 10 out of 10 okay then nine whatever you want me to say so it doesn't matter i don't care i didn't

04:01:40.600 make i didn't say you were unattractive i didn't say any of that all i simply said because i don't i

04:01:45.640 don't make it a habit to actually give somebody a rating but if somebody does say they're a 10 or

04:01:50.840 they're nine and it's like no offense clearly not the case i'm not just going to pamper you

04:01:58.120 hundred donated two hundred dollars on everything you said brian desiré plus isis episode now now

04:02:04.280 we need an isis we need an isis one-on-one deep dive into all her social media series just review

04:02:11.480 all her tiktoks that's how you're going to get a netflix deal by the way okay is we do a one-on-one

04:02:15.960 sit down we do we do a deep dive on all your tiktoks it'll take 50 hours but we'll do it

04:02:21.720 all right negative 200 appreciate it man we have another chat here from did the girls get pre-show

04:02:27.560 instructions this time about how to better answer the rate yourself question this is the first time

04:02:31.720 they didn't all answer 10 out of 10 that authenticity is refreshing well there's two things here one

04:02:37.800 a lot of the girls most of the girls actually don't say 10 like not just this panel but all the

04:02:43.080 other panels it's usually one two or three also there is a tendency if the first person this is not

04:02:49.720 just for this question but any question if the first person gives an answer it's going to

04:02:54.520 to say poison the well for all the like following people so you should put it on paper

04:03:01.560 that is a good idea we should name taken appreciate it man um but so

04:03:07.640 what i guess really quick so how do i treat women listen to them and don't question their answer

04:03:13.560 every time i say yes or no you question yeah yeah really i know are you telling the truth are you lying

04:03:18.840 it's like this is a this is literally a podcast about being confrontational about that's why i'm

04:03:24.920 being confrontational right now yeah it's it would be like if you showed up to a gym where they do

04:03:31.720 jujitsu and you're like all these people keep wrestling me this shit is crazy like you're you're

04:03:36.680 literally here to to confront your opinions and ideas and bounce them i got off of other people and brian

04:03:43.400 is well known for his opinions yeah it's crazy that you're surprised right now i am surprised

04:03:48.680 this is my first time i ever watched the podcast you didn't look it up before i did watch a few

04:03:54.360 clips but it doesn't represent the entirety of his certain wording so you think hold on i called her

04:04:01.240 delusional that's it and i was very very prepared for you to say some shit because obviously you do this

04:04:06.680 every single time and i mean i've seen the clips and i don't really i mean the thing is like a lot

04:04:12.760 of these women i think they're all very attractive women and i always said rate them higher and i'm

04:04:16.920 prepared to um to get that like because i basically knew that's why honestly a lot of these women

04:04:23.640 probably think they're more attractive than they said that they were because they knew you were going

04:04:26.920 to attack them all right but we are on his podcast he has his opinion damn the audacity of this man

04:04:33.000 i'm so sorry if i apologize if i apologize then we will move on from this point

04:04:37.480 because it's horrible the audacity of this man i know oh my god it's like uh the point of the

04:04:43.640 question of asking someone if they're 10 of 10 and when you say women are like oh i'm i'm answering

04:04:47.720 less than because i believe i'm more but i don't want to get confronted that's the point of the question

04:04:51.720 is to is to be confronted about your possible delusion regarding your place in society or how it

04:04:58.440 perceives you and he asks the question every podcast because this is a podcast about women

04:05:04.200 and dating yeah and women have a problem with how they perceive reality and he thinks it's

04:05:09.240 interesting to reveal that that's why the question is so illuminating and entertaining for people who

04:05:14.440 are watching it is interesting it is interesting to reveal all right next one it is not good to

04:05:22.280 advertise it is interesting to reveal but it's not good to advertise because it spreads the wrong

04:05:27.240 message so it is if i'm to be on your podcast i want to spread my message what i believe in that's

04:05:33.240 why regardless of question or who he is or what type of podcaster he is that's my opinion yeah

04:05:38.840 yeah and he gave you a platform to voice it yeah and i've voiced it yeah but i don't think it is

04:05:45.080 i don't think it's mistreatment or like treating a woman badly to uh disagree with them on their own

04:05:52.680 assessment here like i'm not here i'm not gonna kiss your ass i'm not here to just co-sign and agree

04:05:58.120 with everything that you say because i think for women delulu is the so so so we must be not

04:06:05.480 it's not it's not in my case it is be honest to yourself it's not i am honest to myself you

04:06:10.520 cannot call brian a dick because it's his podcast he's still in his chair no you can call me a dick

04:06:14.760 that's fine but you have your own reality go ahead go ahead sorry i was just gonna say brian is

04:06:20.680 gonna have his own opinions you're gonna have his own opinions and or you're gonna have your own

04:06:24.360 opinions and i think it's just interesting because i'm sorry i just think it's interesting

04:06:33.640 how i mean i i disagree with how you guys are saying oh like you're making girls cry like things

04:06:39.240 like that but it's your choice it's your choice to be offended and let it get to you yeah i'm

04:06:43.800 overwhelmed i'm not offended i get called ugly every single day yeah but it's not i'm not calling you

04:06:48.440 ugly though right i'm not calling you ugly when i'm address the fact that i know not everybody

04:06:54.120 thinks i'm attractive and i know that as a fact i said that i said i said that i think that if i was

04:06:59.240 but i do think that the average american person is not the most attractive let's go to walmart

04:07:03.800 let's go to walmart let's look at the walmart customers but that's not the point speak for yourself

04:07:08.600 i love a woman in spongebob pajama pants he just said you're a little delusional

04:07:11.720 baby bird like yeah but he just said you're a little delusional he said delusional is the

04:07:17.000 solution so there's nothing going on he didn't say anything wrong all right next topic yourself

04:07:23.480 you said what'd you say i said i was a five yeah and you do you know how you make your money by being

04:07:28.040 hot so who like i'm not gonna lie like by desperate men that's how we make money i'm in the industry as

04:07:33.720 well yeah and you're more attractive that's not because we are hot because we have desperate men

04:07:38.360 paying us on our platform that's how we make money i think of a 10 and i think of like megan

04:07:43.640 foxx in her prime and i'm like how do i compare to me but i didn't say that everyone thinks i'm a

04:07:49.080 time we have to be honest we're getting paid for i didn't say everyone thinks i'm a 10 i said

04:07:55.080 moving it moving it on more more isis stuff though we can move on it's been a long time on me

04:08:02.440 do we have time for other people so i'll get through a few more notes with you then i'll get to

04:08:07.400 other people's notes here so uh let's see uh would love to share the changes i had when dating from

04:08:12.840 super clingy codependency poor uh poor emotional control and outburst to mature ways to man whatever

04:08:18.680 skip skip uh you said uh remember that man said that his wife gets salty i've done that before

04:08:25.720 mike davis donated two hundred dollars when did this show become a therapy session i don't blame women

04:08:32.760 they know not what they do i blame you sucker simps for blowing up mitts a real man works on his

04:08:39.160 game to earn a high level female that is what i'm talking about true there that's mike davis by the

04:08:45.000 way yo mike dude join our discord mike i'll get you a role can you bring me some food i'm a little

04:08:50.360 hungry he does own a bunch of burger things good to see you in the chat mike davis hope you're having a

04:08:54.440 good night uh over there on the east coast so isis you said more is more always date more not less

04:09:01.400 each interaction is a data point that will enrich you as a woman yeah like i said more experience

04:09:06.520 is good you will figure out what you want is it yeah yeah what about all the like trauma though

04:09:12.840 yeah it is hard but trauma yeah it's true trauma that doesn't transform transmits so you will keep

04:09:18.760 transmitting the trauma but if you heal you'll get stronger and that's what i hope everybody does is

04:09:23.880 heal okay uh you said you've uh how and you said you wait hold on where's this thing about serial

04:09:31.560 dater oh you used to be a serial dater you've had a lot of turmoil and heartbreak might seem like i'm

04:09:37.240 always struggling all these heartaches gave me exposure therapy and experience i would go through them

04:09:41.320 all over again uh how long were you serial dating roster rotation whatever it's not

04:09:48.440 how long like i dated my ex-boyfriend and since 18 no since 16 it's always like i already look for

04:09:56.120 the next uh boyfriend already have feelings for the next person before breaking up with the current

04:10:01.160 one so it was maybe like three guys back to back i didn't give any break why do you not fight to say

04:10:08.680 with one man if you are really in love because i was not in love is about right maybe i continue because

04:10:15.960 i didn't love myself fully i couldn't love other people even though they are really loving to me i

04:10:20.680 couldn't see the value but that is probably why men do not marry you yet no it's because i didn't want

04:10:26.360 to marry them because i don't love like i don't think i'm fully myself yet well do you think that you

04:10:32.760 were sad and didn't love yourself in relation to your behaviors because you're saying so when you say

04:10:39.800 like oh i need all these data points i should date a lot but then when i was doing that i felt worthless and i

04:10:45.080 did not love myself that's wouldn't that be the opposite of what that exposed the problem you

04:10:49.480 know i was suffering i was like why am i suffering and i realized i always because the problem was

04:10:54.200 exposed to you when like a person says hey don't just date around because it's going to be unfulfilling

04:10:59.880 and ultimately hurt you you should decide what you want from an intimate relationship and just

04:11:05.160 don't settle for anything less than that and are you not a little bit if someone talked to me like

04:11:09.560 that do you think i would listen of course not i make the same mistake all the time again and again are you

04:11:14.360 not a little bit scared because maybe you are always looking for some kind of trigger and if

04:11:20.040 you do not have that trigger anymore you will find it somewhere else and else and else are you not a

04:11:24.600 little bit scared you will never find that fulfilling triggering no i think i believe in myself

04:11:30.920 all right okay good for you all right and then let's see you said monogamy isn't human nature

04:11:37.640 marriage has always been an exchange of power money we need to be more realistic don't marry potential

04:11:43.800 yeah so what do you what do you mean by don't marry i think that until this guy has proven that

04:11:48.200 he can financially support me and my future children and our lifestyle i won't marry them

04:11:54.200 okay even if they have the potential to earn down the road yeah potential isn't real you're

04:11:58.920 underestimating the power of like what a couple can achieve i agree i agree with you and if you pass

04:12:05.400 up on a guy before he has reached or prior to him reaching that point you could be passing up on a

04:12:12.840 millionaire but at the same time there could be a lot of people that match what i like and then

04:12:19.160 fits all the criteria why do i have to say potential is not real but you believe in your

04:12:23.800 own potential to be a billionaire so why is that man always so wrong in your eyes but you believe in

04:12:30.840 your own potential you probably go home light a candle thank god for this podcast and your

04:12:35.000 potential but you say a man doesn't have potential men have potential but you do not believe in

04:12:39.720 potential i didn't say men don't have potential i'm saying i want the men who already got their

04:12:45.000 back that's what i'm saying matter you could be missing out on an amazing god

04:12:52.200 but why would he want you because you're not there yet because you can find someone who's compatible to

04:12:57.640 you that you might think is trash you know like but the kind of man who would listen to you say

04:13:03.000 this on a podcast and be like i'm gonna marry that girl do you think he would treat you very well or

04:13:07.480 that's of himself well that's your opinion because you have that's from your perspective it is my

04:13:12.520 perspective that's why i'm yeah exactly so i think there are guys who i think are compatible to me

04:13:21.320 and watch this podcast will be okay because this is me i can't change what i am even if i don't

04:13:26.040 use these or pretend giovanni jd donated two hundred dollars yo thank you giovanni any man that would

04:13:32.200 marry any of the prostitutes on here absent complete repentance is a zero not everybody in the world is

04:13:38.840 wealthier than someone that wife's a proud prostitute not everybody is a prostitute yo giovanni merci

04:13:46.280 beaucoup thank you for the uh tts there man really appreciate it good to see you in the chat and now

04:13:50.920 i'm glad we fixed the whole uh giovanni tts robot naming thing uh okay and so you also uh monogamy

04:13:59.640 isn't human nature i think it's hard it takes discipline for you for everybody it's just against

04:14:08.760 nature i think for men for women i think they're both hard i think a lot of people are tempted you

04:14:14.440 ever not been monogamous no i've always been monogamous but there's been hardship like there were dry

04:14:20.440 times we don't have passion anymore and i don't know what to do and but if you really are in love

04:14:24.840 as a woman if i'm in love i only see one person there's one person in my head my eyes that my body

04:14:31.400 is attracted to there's nobody if you're really enough there's just one man one feeling like

04:14:36.760 that's a woman's thing right so how does that work to have multiple men in your life then i don't

04:14:43.480 if you're really in love if you talk about love i don't i don't fall in love with them i go on

04:14:48.440 first date with different men i don't understand what you're talking about no if you're like really

04:14:52.360 in love you want to have like a little bit monogamous relationship i just think monogamy is

04:14:56.200 hard and i think people have to put hard works into monogamy that's what i'm saying it's against

04:15:00.440 nature that's why there's a lot of divorce rate and it take that's why i want the perfect man because i

04:15:05.400 don't want to when they want to divorce him for some dumb reason you know because i dated someone for

04:15:11.000 five years he's wonderful and and i don't know why this passion was lost so sometimes love is

04:15:17.480 gone you don't know why that's all relationships hard yeah passion ebbs and exactly so that's why

04:15:23.720 the commitment is so ability you know i think it's not compatibility it's commitment but both right

04:15:29.800 you have to have the same value well you have to have the same values for sure but you have to commit

04:15:34.440 it you know it's not about compatibility the right person no the right person is the person you choose

04:15:39.880 yes you know but you should be there's nothing else needed if you choose them they're the right

04:15:44.600 perfect man for her i don't know you know who you should be dating you know no johnny sins because he

04:15:51.240 can do everything every job every everything you should be dating him would be perfect oh my god

04:15:57.960 the man can do everything uh last thing we do have a few more notes from isis but we're gonna come

04:16:03.480 back to them a little bit later nick can you pull up uh isis isis instagram because uh this is it's

04:16:13.080 kind of i'm not trying to throw shade isis but it's like two different worlds like your tick tock

04:16:19.560 and then your instagram it's it's crazy it's crazy let me know when you got it pulled up i'm so excited

04:16:27.560 right now so it's like instagram no idea what's about reality but not like appearance it's it's not

04:16:33.000 a bad appearance it's like like you look at pull it up anything like scroll down she could be

04:16:37.800 hunting people on here i would believe it yeah so like scroll down like you look at your instagram

04:16:44.120 and like i kind of think like you look at it and it's it's kind of like very nice yeah it's like

04:16:53.640 who takes these photos they're great i i kind of look i'm like oh it's kind of she looks sweet and

04:16:58.760 wholesome and nice good photos like kind of nice good pictures like nice girl family girl yeah i mean

04:17:07.080 there's a couple that are a bit questionable but like look oh here's you with some very good page

04:17:12.040 actually there's you with some sunflowers keep going yeah keep going beautiful page though look

04:17:17.400 look at all this floral the floral photos you know look oh here's you with some photos look uh

04:17:22.360 eating a hamburger look at the photo pictures big very wholesome it would be very unassuming if i

04:17:28.600 saw this i'm like is that the red dress you weren't allowed to wear no okay okay okay there you go

04:17:36.200 oh wait it is the bowl yes it is and uh oh sex is okay she lost me at the sex is back uh but pretty

04:17:45.000 wholesome overall yeah you know you would unassuming and then it's like i look at your

04:17:50.920 you know like you'd think maybe like cute not a thought i'm sorry i'm sorry um but bro then you

04:17:59.080 see the tick tock i'm sorry isis i'm sorry no don't i'm just saying it's a cold world out there

04:18:03.960 gentlemen you gotta be careful even unassuming women they got some stories i don't understand

04:18:09.880 what's the difference between my tiktok and my instagram we must stay focused brothers we must

04:18:14.520 stay focused well because like then you start talking about like the dating stories because

04:18:20.040 those pictures actually were taken years ago it was when i was in college it was way so i posted way

04:18:25.640 later because i always wanted to be a content creator so i was in la for a while staying there

04:18:30.600 for at least eight months and got a photo shoot and did a lot of things and i never posted them because

04:18:36.760 i wanted my grit to be perfect and i always was like oh it has to be red it has to be red i just

04:18:41.400 could never figure it out and years later i had this heartbreak with this guy i was dating and i was

04:18:45.720 like what am i doing wasting my time crying over boy like let me do something just for myself and i

04:18:50.360 decided to post them all at once and tip you cannot post more than 300 instagram photo in an hour like

04:18:56.280 they'll block you so i did that for like several days and i posted everything at once that's why it's

04:19:02.600 old but on tiktok it's my new journey because i so you got hurt by a man and then you decided to

04:19:09.080 hurt men back that's an interesting that's not the point and i don't understand what you're saying so

04:19:13.640 we can move on okay let me get all right let me get into some of the uh other notes here uh let's see

04:19:21.880 but we will pull up some of her she's got some pretty interesting and entertaining entertaining

04:19:26.600 excuse me um what's it called uh stories and videos and stuff we do have alexa we already

04:19:35.480 talked about your boyfriend who yeah i honestly there's not much more to say uh oh so you do

04:19:42.280 traditional corn content um no i actually don't i'm i when i graduate i probably will but for right

04:19:49.080 now i'm not able to fly all the time because i'm in college but you will eventually have you but

04:19:53.400 you've done scenes with guys right yes how many different men have you done scenes with

04:19:57.480 well so when i first started i would do content only with boyfriends like obviously like men are

04:20:01.800 not usually really opposed to that because they're if they're they're fine with only fans in general

04:20:05.560 then they're fine with that usually but um no i started moving more towards like filming with

04:20:11.480 content creators uh probably around uh january and now i do it every single at least for my summer

04:20:17.800 break i've been going every month to vegas miami to vegas miami la all these places um doing collabs

04:20:25.400 and yeah how many so how many different men have you done scenes with um probably like 10 maybe 10

04:20:33.640 different guys how many total scenes have you done because you can shoot multiple scenes with uh

04:20:38.520 i don't think i've shot with people more than once oh okay uh in your notes here you said men hook up

04:20:43.960 with date women to receive validation from other men and care more about how their peers see them

04:20:49.400 than the woman women than the woman i might have just missed there with did i send that yesterday or

04:20:55.000 two days ago because i might it might have been older like it probably was really old so do you no

04:20:59.960 longer um no i i agree i think that a lot of the time in college especially like guys like i'm like

04:21:05.560 bro like y'all are no way y'all are into the the cooch this much like i swear y'all like just do it

04:21:12.600 like cooch like they don't want you know what i mean wait you think guys really aren't about the

04:21:18.280 they just want to look cool to their friends both i'll be like a lot i think a lot of you would be

04:21:24.440 surprised how many men have been with you and told zero people ever not out of embarrassment not

04:21:29.400 out of anything just because they're it why would it matter why would they tell because their bros are

04:21:33.400 like yeah bro yeah nice that's actually not how dudes are at all don't you think this is actually

04:21:40.360 like this is what women do and they actually project it dude firstly if you've ever had a

04:21:45.240 girlfriend or whatever and you look in her girl group chat it's if one of them sleeps with a guy

04:21:49.560 his photos in there they're all talking about to ask about it if a guy did that in my chat i'd be

04:21:54.360 like gay get that out of here oh sorry i did a tos i did a tos but that's very true if a dude tried

04:22:03.880 to post a girl he hooked up with in the boys group chat i'd be like lame let's talk about something

04:22:09.000 cool what are you doing yeah i mean i mean it'd be embarrassing so shane i'll ask you i mean i'll know

04:22:14.840 about you but i've it's definitely the case like if a girl just one time sleeps with a guy the whole

04:22:21.640 friend group knows 100 here's photos here's his dick size here's all these details that's true

04:22:26.600 whereas like i it's true i could be boyfriend girlfriend with a girl yeah and nobody i don't

04:22:34.360 want any of my guy friends to know about my girl ever even if i'm just hooking up with her i mean

04:22:39.400 that's that's mine don't get away like uh if a girl like sends you nudes i would never share that

04:22:45.080 ever and i would never show it in a million years like check out this no way that's for me i don't

04:22:50.280 even like knowing if she took them before and sent me an old one those are just for me forever

04:22:56.280 that's not the only way to show off because for example if i'm a guy and i date you and you're

04:23:01.240 beautiful you're a 10 i would want to show you off to a friend just by being with you you know

04:23:05.080 i think you could be ugly and they'd still do it like yeah exactly like that you don't have to send

04:23:10.040 each other you can just no dude you never want to show off here's the difference right you're also a

04:23:14.280 lot older than me i'm in college like these college boys i've dated frat guys and i've seen their group

04:23:19.320 chats well sure there's black guys yeah they have a specific reputation okay well i was in college

04:23:27.240 once and even when i was in college i think it's a woman's thing i definitely i do because i think

04:23:32.920 we are insecure so we are like oh my god yourself yeah there's no i don't think we are a little bit

04:23:41.480 insecure so we tell our friends hey what do you like this guy talks about this and this and oh my

04:23:45.880 god he doesn't post me on instagram i want to be seen i want to show off so i feel safe that he's

04:23:49.880 not have any secrets about me and stuff like that so i just think i have had i have had contentious

04:23:56.440 arguments in relationships because girls are in group chats sending each other photos of dudes

04:24:02.520 they've been with and bragging and asking questions and i think it's wildly inappropriate i want to date

04:24:07.480 someone who would do that if your best friend is like who did you hook up with let me see him and

04:24:12.840 also like that sucks i don't want to date someone like that's gross i mean this is all our personal

04:24:16.920 experiences i just like because think about you know men are so they're so horny all the time and

04:24:21.960 i'm like damn no way y'all's like y'all are this thirsty compared to women like i think it's a lot of

04:24:27.320 validation we are men are men are touching themselves while they're driving do you understand like there's

04:24:33.640 no we it's so it's so dramatic it's so extra it is because they want validation well uh going back

04:24:40.840 to this shane so um i'll know about you but like let's say you went on a date with a girl and your

04:24:47.480 buddy happens to know that you went out with a girl or something like i'll know about you but my

04:24:53.160 conversation with a male friend would be like he might be like oh hey brian how to go with tiffany

04:24:57.800 i'd be like good yeah we could have hooked up we could whatever that's it oh yeah it was good man

04:25:03.240 that's it i'm not gonna say like get into details and talk about the sex with the dude that's the

04:25:08.600 last thing i'm gonna share i don't know if i'm an outlier if i'm just discreet i would never share

04:25:14.360 any of that info i am with a girl look at me or sorry with a male friend look at me i am friends

04:25:19.800 with a lot of degenerate disgusting men like dudes who are up to horrible things we do not talk about

04:25:26.760 that stuff it's it's weird it would be embarrassing to me if a male friend tried to be like dude i was

04:25:32.920 with her this is what it was like i'd be like what are you doing right now wait a second let me ask

04:25:37.720 you this question you guys keep talking about but first you said that your experience is you're not

04:25:42.200 that type of guy i agree with you but you bring up an interesting point you said you know scumbags

04:25:46.600 and even they wouldn't do that okay that's wrong have you heard of the burning sun incident

04:25:51.160 you want the burning sun incident burning sun incident it's famous people group of guys

04:25:58.120 do you know big bang k-pop are you gonna bring it up are you discussing revenge porn right no i'm

04:26:04.280 not revenge for this group of guys celebrities they actually have a secret chat room where they sign

04:26:09.720 each news girls they drugged girls they volunteer involuntary or voluntary into the chat room and this is

04:26:16.360 hundreds of people and this has happened all kinds of countries this burning sun incident is a bbc

04:26:21.560 documentary you should all check it out okay but so aren't you the one who talks the men in the club

04:26:26.920 let me finish she's talking about her experience so it's valid there are guys who do that to show

04:26:31.320 off to text with each other you gotta understand me and shane are not making the argument that no men

04:26:37.000 do that there's obviously guys that are gross but i'm just saying please acknowledge the scumbags of

04:26:45.160 the world okay oh there's evil people doing bad stuff but i would say generally speaking sure there's

04:26:50.600 men who do this i think it actually manifests itself much more in women i mean no there is i think

04:26:59.480 they've actually studied that i don't know if there's studies well but it is how many how many times have

04:27:05.080 you guys been on a date and before you went on the date you sent a photo of the guy to a girlfriend

04:27:10.440 no never you don't want to oh i got one i have a good one i have a good one okay how many of you

04:27:17.800 have disclosed to either a female friend or even a female acquaintance the size of a guy's penis who you

04:27:24.680 hooked up with raise your hands no no no be honest be honest memorable be honest shane have you ever

04:27:32.040 disclosed the fucking pussy size the labia size of a girl you fucked up with to a male friend

04:27:39.400 because that doesn't matter because penis size matters no no no pussy matter no no it matters

04:27:44.440 hashtag i only date women with large bra size bra size bra size um i got my libya off

04:27:53.560 i think if a girl had something i had an operation they might say something to them what's that i said i

04:27:58.600 think the same way that a girl if if the guys if it's real memorable maybe they'll say something

04:28:03.320 i would never say something about his normal penis but i think if a girl had something really memorable

04:28:07.800 or something really crazy happened the guy would be just as likely to say i mean if she had like

04:28:12.200 if she got naked and you're like dude she didn't have one of her legs like that would be like something

04:28:16.920 she had an extra i mean i i've encountered like interesting sexual things like if she bit you or like

04:28:25.080 barked at you you'd probably say like the cat story like yeah but most people like a lot of men are

04:28:30.600 going to feel like a type of way like if you're talking about his genitals that's way different

04:28:34.840 than like an anecdote that any like anybody could bite you right so i don't think anybody would like

04:28:40.200 if he bit you and you told somebody like it's not discreet but it's not like super intimate information

04:28:47.160 necessarily although there are yeah i could i still think i still think it's but like maybe they got

04:28:51.480 a fetish i've encountered i've encountered women who are like crazily multi-orgasmic who come

04:28:57.560 instantly i would never tell a male friend that but you're also a lot older than me and how is that

04:29:03.800 okay cool because a lot of these it is an immature thing definitely and that's why i mean i'm a college

04:29:09.640 girl i deal with the college boys and that's what they do well i don't know if like younger guys are

04:29:13.400 more getting more like feminine or whatever but like at least for me i've always been discreet with

04:29:19.080 the girls i date like it's for me it's just a respect thing i ain't gonna tell i think yeah

04:29:24.760 but don't care women do that shit all the time it's disrespectful when they do it too i just never

04:29:29.240 i haven't experienced yeah but it's not i don't think it's viewed like when y'all are with your

04:29:33.320 girlfriends and you're like sharing all these intimate details about like some new guy you hooked

04:29:37.560 up with but you don't none of none of the women in the group are like whoa this is kind of like

04:29:42.680 sharing really intimate details but guess what women experience shame people shame women for having

04:29:47.560 sex people do not shame men for having sex oh they do i think they do but i would also like to point

04:29:52.680 out that you are a um an adult worker yeah and so when men sleep with you i think a lot of the time

04:30:00.280 it's a conquest when but you've been doing you've been doing that before since you were 18 um yes but

04:30:05.800 i'm not gonna lie i didn't really do that when but like i that's a recent thing collaborating with

04:30:10.040 people but still if you are if you if you do if you're an sw or whatever and and someone hooks up with

04:30:16.200 you then you're more likely by virtue of the line of work and stuff to attract the type of scumbag man

04:30:21.800 who would be like yo check this girl's instagram she does this and i just hooked up with her i see

04:30:26.600 them do it with other girls too like my friends all these other i think it's i don't think it's

04:30:30.440 necessarily just me you know what i mean just slip them in their face when they do it i guess to go

04:30:35.160 back really quick and then we'll move it on to a new topic you said that men hook up with date women

04:30:39.400 to receive validation from other men and care more about how their peers see them than the women they're with

04:30:44.440 um and i think i sent that a long time sure that's fine but so i mean maybe this is true but i i do

04:30:49.640 think i mean well at least i think maybe the panel agrees disagrees i do think it's a far more

04:30:54.440 frequent occurrence in women for example i think women are much more likely to seek out the cosign

04:30:59.800 from their friends on the guy than the reverse but like i said like i like women or like you you

04:31:05.240 come on here and i've seen you ask girls what's your body count it's a it's shameful it's people you're

04:31:09.400 you're it's it's it's meant to be like oh your body count is higher wait don't you hold on it's

04:31:14.280 okay sorry i gotta interrupt you here let me engage you precisely on this so you object to me

04:31:22.280 shaming women for their body count which i don't really think i do well it's meant to be asked because

04:31:27.720 you say like oh like i think pretty sure you ask like oh like or i don't know it doesn't matter

04:31:32.040 you ask if it matters or something like that sure we talk about body count the point is it's

04:31:37.160 you would never ask a man and then shame them for it actually well actually i'm i've said this

04:31:43.400 multiple times on the podcast nobody cares about a man's body count well hold on i've said this

04:31:47.320 multiple multiple times on the podcast i'm actually not in favor of male promiscuity either i don't do

04:31:52.600 hookup i just do it for my job right but so hold on so are you do you have trouble with me shaming

04:31:57.160 women or do you have trouble with you think there's a double standard i think that there is a double

04:32:01.560 standard and it may not necessarily be from you but from everyone i've just stated though that i

04:32:05.560 object to male promiscuity too do you know another podcast that ask men their body count hosted by a

04:32:10.760 woman if you want to yeah guys we guys call her daddy i'm good friends call her daddy bring out both

04:32:20.120 men eat men and women equally but you guys bring out only girls you guys we thought is it first

04:32:26.280 thing my friend corinne fisher runs that podcast i'm close friends with her we dated

04:32:31.400 she literally it's a podcast about people she fucks and people who are promiscuous it's the

04:32:36.440 anti-slut shaming podcast she literally has men on there to talk about how slutty they are that's

04:32:42.760 the whole premise of the show they also bring women on and equally i mean they talk to women about

04:32:48.360 not sex they talk about a lot of gossip a lot of women a lot of female female go on those podcasts

04:32:53.560 but they have about targeting we're also men but this is about targeting women this is a

04:32:58.120 dating podcast but why is it i'm on here i'm a man

04:33:03.640 do you not see proportions darling but why is it wrong for a man to ask about body count but it's

04:33:09.960 okay for a woman to ask about a man's bank account i'm not a bank account or anything

04:33:16.040 that's not everybody i don't know i always ask bank account information oh okay you don't want to

04:33:20.120 so that's not you got my point right um yeah that's a w for uh yeah um wait hold on so

04:33:29.320 where where where did this come from um

04:33:33.080 so you're like well you shame the women blah blah blah well i'm not in favor of male

04:33:36.680 promiscuity either i think it's different but i think they're both i mean i think well we can get

04:33:41.080 into that but you said you said hookup culture ruins dating i think it does annoying because

04:33:47.480 no one wants to commit anymore so if hookup culture is bad hookup culture would be proxy for

04:33:52.760 promiscuity promiscuity is proxy for having a high body count so how are we going if you object to

04:33:59.400 hookup culture uh there we're not gonna hold on hold on well most people will say they object to hook

04:34:05.720 hookup culture but if you start shaming female sexuality and promiscuity all of a sudden there's

04:34:10.920 a problem where there's no way we're going to be able to legislate women to not fuck a bunch of

04:34:15.800 dudes so the only solution to hookup culture is by shaming female sexuality and promiscuity i think

04:34:23.560 adults can do what they want to do and personally but okay then if you can just do whatever you want

04:34:28.440 to do but hookup culture bad how do you solve hookup culture i don't like hookup culture i don't

04:34:32.520 partake in it i do it for my i guess i do so you don't want to see the world improve i mean so i

04:34:37.560 think that it ruins dating because personally like i am even before i did adult content it was very

04:34:42.920 frustrating because it's like bro like i'll like every nobody i feel like nobody's in relationships

04:34:47.560 i feel like it's all just hook up hook up hook up hook up easy sex okay so why don't we shame men

04:34:51.480 and women who engage in promiscuous behavior because i mean i don't know i feel like what would be wrong

04:34:55.960 with that i feel like if they're they're gonna do it if they're gonna do it and they're like i mean if

04:35:00.040 they okay people are gonna sell drugs and commit all sorts of crimes okay but like i i'm not we

04:35:04.600 should try to like if they want to create a social prep and i am and adults are allowed to make those

04:35:09.640 decisions for themselves no i don't want to do it can i say something or let's let shame go then i'll

04:35:15.000 have you come shame is shame is something that is a power you give to someone else to give to you

04:35:20.600 like if i'm mormon and i drink coffee and someone sees it i will feel shame but if you drink coffee do you

04:35:26.680 care at all no and so when he says what's your body count and you feel like you're being shamed i'll

04:35:32.360 tell you right now i mean i don't know you don't have to i don't know she can tell oh yeah i mean

04:35:35.880 yeah actually what am i talking about it's the whole show my bad i really genuinely don't know but but

04:35:40.760 but if he asked women who come on this podcast what's your body count and you think that he is

04:35:45.560 shaming them why if the body count doesn't matter then they should just powerfully say it's a good point

04:35:50.760 this and then whatever and then just move on because their sexuality is theirs it doesn't

04:35:55.400 belong to brian brian's opinion doesn't affect them but everyone seems to feel really weird and

04:36:00.920 awkward about it because it's almost like sex is really intimate and beautiful and essential to

04:36:05.400 the human experience it's done to i think try to like embarrass women and like i said i don't really

04:36:09.640 care about body count personally i am i do adult content and so it doesn't really matter to me as much

04:36:16.120 but um i don't know i actually um if a girl reveals her body count on the show and it's high

04:36:21.800 i have absolutely typically like no reaction i don't know even if it's high i'm pretty much just

04:36:27.000 like okay i mean okay i mean it doesn't really matter i think it's not about embarrassing them

04:36:31.960 when you're like when you're like an adult especially the older you get i feel like the

04:36:35.720 less it matters it's more of like an immature thing i think what do you mean an immature thing

04:36:39.400 because it's like i don't know like think about like i mean you mean immature to care about

04:36:43.560 body count yeah i think it is kind of because i mean the more the older you get the more experience

04:36:48.120 you get and it's like the more like i think that if you care about it it's because like i mean it's

04:36:54.200 i think it's immature i think that it's immature yeah it gets convoluted i don't think it's that

04:36:58.920 we care about body count i think it's it's the what happens to you because of the high body count

04:37:04.840 right like you have all these i think some people may view it as a loyalty issue sometimes it's terrible

04:37:10.280 and you're messed up because of it yeah go ahead go ahead all right it's going to sound a little

04:37:15.000 bit harsh but i do not mean it that way we are both porn stars right we work you do do you do content

04:37:20.760 with other people though i did one movie the guy that told you but i think as a porn star if we look

04:37:28.120 honestly at ourselves we cannot say we are against hookup culture if that's literally our job i don't do

04:37:36.440 any kind of stuff outside of content though i i've never but you hook up with men and which you do

04:37:41.800 not want to be judged by it i do not judge you at all i don't care if people judge me first my job

04:37:46.120 but you cannot say i do not like it when you do it for a living but it's like different i like

04:37:51.000 because i'm a relationship person like i do not like it and do it for a living it's very like i'm

04:37:55.720 a relationship person that we have to be honest ourselves we're doing porn we cannot say i do not

04:38:00.120 like it and do it i mean i don't want it i don't do it i've never done it outside of content i don't

04:38:04.840 really like it but it's still i mean not all car mechanics like being car mechanics right i'm some

04:38:11.000 people i'm i'm not saying that there are people in the industry who don't like it i'm just saying

04:38:15.560 you could do it and not like if you do it for a living hooking up for a living and making a movie

04:38:20.040 you cannot say i do not like it i feel like the point is less that and more that you can't be a car

04:38:24.920 mechanic and then be like dang all these cars on the road all this time i hate it here you got my point

04:38:31.240 about the atmosphere because i do think a lot of shame are put upon women by men and it's societal

04:38:36.520 and it's caused by patriarchy that's what i think and to your point you think shame is you giving your

04:38:41.240 power away to someone else i don't think that's true because as human being we unconsciously care

04:38:45.960 about what other people think so in order to fit into society unconsciously we feel shame because

04:38:50.280 everybody's opinion affect us so when you call us permissive permiscuous and when you use a negative term

04:38:57.240 to describe someone who you perceive like like for instance short a lot like for instance the word

04:39:02.680 short yeah yeah like if i'm so i just think that that's not okay i don't know you interrupted my

04:39:09.960 thought and then i just like farted go ahead my my brain just farted if we would have women ruining

04:39:15.800 the world we were just but shame is put upon us by men a lot of times and women who couldn't you know

04:39:22.840 what's actually what's actually wrong with shame shame like what does that make progress shame and

04:39:27.720 guilt actually stall your progress i think what do you mean positive bullying your progress your progress

04:39:33.160 but but so for example like if negative negative uh if actions contribute to uh negative world outcomes

04:39:43.720 or like starts breaking down society like how do you actually start defending against that without like

04:39:51.800 passing laws the only way you have is social pressure and shame like so unless we're prepared to legislate

04:39:58.840 like okay enforced monogamy which is never going to happen really the only way that you're going to be able to

04:40:04.520 combat promiscuity in both men and women is to shame promiscuity and be honest

04:40:10.040 technically we have forced monogamy because polygamy is illegal yeah maybe we shouldn't have monogamy that's

04:40:16.120 what i'm saying yeah more so like um but that proves your point yeah so yeah all right you have to shame

04:40:23.800 people out of the bad thing polygamy which is a practice that destroys communities and you know drives

04:40:30.120 men to commit suicide and it has all kinds of other problems but like anyway i grew up in utah so

04:40:35.240 polygamists are all over the place but um yeah it's bad so the shame is makes sense uh chart one six

04:40:42.600 six sorry i didn't get to this immediately this came in about six minutes ago yo uh robert tanner

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04:41:21.880 prime appreciate it guys thank you thank you all right uh so where were we questions yeah uh about

04:41:29.960 instagrams and stuff um that's what you want i don't know if you have any more going to we i think

04:41:35.400 i have a bit more um let's see you said you date submissive men we already talked about that hookup

04:41:41.560 culture bad yeah you said you likely disagree with the host on most things yeah i mean i don't know

04:41:47.000 but i feel like that's been pretty obvious but you both agree that hookup culture is bad i mean i

04:41:51.320 personally for me i don't like it i'm i'm such a love lover girl so i just want like a boyfriend and

04:41:57.720 obviously that doing my job makes that difficult but there's someone for everyone so sure there will

04:42:02.680 be someone for me are there any specific things that you disagree on that i can engage with on

04:42:07.880 quickly or no i think we've already been talking about all okay uh question do you make guys wait for

04:42:14.200 sex um well i'm not gonna lie i haven't dated any guys in a long time but i do okay so say a guy who

04:42:22.760 wants to date you and you like him would you make him wait for sex not like really not the 12 the 12

04:42:33.000 dates but like maybe like a second or a third second or third okay so not too long i feel like

04:42:38.440 you can read the room and tell like this is going to go somewhere versus what they are looking for if

04:42:43.240 they just want to hook up you can usually read them and you said that you're a good girlfriend

04:42:46.520 and and you like spoiling men oh i guess i did i don't know in your voice note that you sent like

04:42:52.120 yesterday yeah yeah i definitely i definitely do do that i love that i love giving gifts and i love

04:42:59.880 like spending time would you uh continue to do like if you're dating a guy would you be doing scenes with

04:43:06.840 men so it depends if i was to date somebody that also does content i would say they don't they're

04:43:11.720 then i would it maybe i would stop but the thing is it's like how serious is it like how like you

04:43:17.720 know what i mean like are there guys that i'll like and i'm like oh i like this guy but i'm like

04:43:21.800 realistically i don't think this would work out okay um so i wouldn't stop it for them but i feel

04:43:25.640 like maybe if there was somebody that was really serious with it like they they were expressing like

04:43:29.320 oh like yeah like i think there's like like like i like you a lot but like maybe like but um

04:43:35.720 like i would you'd have to stop maybe i would but or maybe just do content with them like i don't

04:43:39.880 think i would stop content outright but okay unless they were really rich and just could prove

04:43:45.400 like not because i like being a very independent person i have i like having my own money i like

04:43:50.120 supporting myself so if they were able to do that but then it would also put me in a position where i

04:43:55.080 feel vulnerable because i don't have my own stream of income okay what was your question um i was gonna

04:44:01.160 say so what is hookup culture to you um kind of like how people just like go on the the tinder late

04:44:08.040 at night they're like come over baby girl and then they're like yeah mama i'm coming over like

04:44:14.120 that's like like that stuff so i mean i don't know there's a lot of hookup culture isn't just

04:44:19.560 it's like the next level where like you don't even know their name and you're doing it i mean it could

04:44:24.200 be less than that it could be it could just be like like i don't know like the one night stands is

04:44:29.160 a hookup culture i'm just wondering how that's any different from what i do job is well to me it's very

04:44:35.400 professional i think you show up you sign the paperwork you have to do paperwork you have to take

04:44:39.240 pictures of ids it's very disgust like we're doing this we're doing this then um if there's

04:44:43.880 a camera guy they have to go over all of that there's it's very set up it's not like i'm not gonna

04:44:48.920 lie a lot of the time girls they you can just lube up your your coach and you're good like it's not

04:44:53.400 even really intimate sometimes i don't think though the hookup culture is intimate either um

04:44:58.760 um i mean i think that like sometimes i feel like girls that do uh corn they're not always even

04:45:06.280 aroused like sometimes it's just i think girls doing hookup culture aren't always aroused well

04:45:11.800 why are they doing it that's a great question that's what we're trying to answer giovanni j you donated

04:45:17.640 two hundred dollars hookup culture is bad i'm a relationship girl but i prostitute myself i don't

04:45:25.320 think you're lying but not facing that inherent conflict in your stated values is pathetic

04:45:30.440 virtuously bankrupt do you think the money is worth do you have a response to giovanni um i mean i

04:45:38.680 think you can be a relationship person i and also do what i do which i'm not a prostitute really quick

04:45:43.800 before i have uh dominica dominica okay i got it yes you got it uh because you said in a voice note

04:45:54.040 i'm a good girlfriend yes i'd be spoiling i okay but if you but if you're signing up to date me you

04:46:01.080 already know what you're getting into whether it's filming with me or me filming with other people and i

04:46:05.240 probably wouldn't expect a man that's a normal man like not doing content to let me go film with other

04:46:11.160 people i wouldn't expect that isn't he like isn't any guy who's willing to date a woman who

04:46:15.880 does porn isn't he like a cuck i mean i'll i'm a cuck i'll cuck my boyfriend i don't care

04:46:21.320 it's mutual and if they're into that they're into that they're not always into that but i guess it's

04:46:25.480 like i'm a good girlfriend yes you fuck other men on camera but i'm a very loving person i like

04:46:31.800 give all the gifts i like i feel like i'm a good girlfriend it's so central but to you i mean look

04:46:37.480 i know there's different someone for everyone and it's not like cheating and whatnot if you're

04:46:41.800 if he's agreeing with it there's different it's not their fault he's agreeing with it it's kind of

04:46:47.480 like ladies the boyfriend's you signed up for it you signed up for the boyfriend's great he spoils

04:46:52.520 you he treats you perfectly you get along great but i'm not cheating on no one but he cheats on you

04:46:57.400 but i'm not cheating an open relationship is with consent and they know that and yeah but here's the

04:47:03.320 here's the difference here's the difference i'm open to an open hold on here's the difference so

04:47:06.680 a girl who does porn she'll date a civilian guy who doesn't do porn she'll be fucking other men for

04:47:13.080 her i would maybe stop uh hold on she'll be fucking other men for her work if he were to go out and

04:47:18.760 just fuck a chick another civilian that would be cheating on his end no that he can steal he can do

04:47:25.800 it if he wants it's just that i would want him to be safe about it because that can put my job

04:47:30.360 up culture um i mean essentially what it is okay but like i don't i'm not like with the people i

04:47:38.440 don't know i'm i like i like the commitment i don't i don't have really an issue with people doing what

04:47:42.920 they want if he has if he wants to go do that while like you know it's it adults can do what they want

04:47:49.480 what is commitment to in your opinion like you know relationship like you but what a relationship to

04:47:56.120 me is like a commitment and then they're like very specific stated boundaries and their self-denial

04:48:02.520 because the person i'm with has to deny themselves all these other types of things how they spend

04:48:07.080 their time who they spend their time with who they share their body with because i feel special and

04:48:11.800 i want them to feel special and i want our bond to be unique to us and so when you're like oh it's

04:48:17.880 commitment it's like well but that's just friendship you're describing friendship um i wouldn't consider

04:48:23.880 that friendship because i feel like if you're like with that partner you're like living with them

04:48:27.400 you're doing it's like they're your partner but then you guys and it's also if it's for work i would

04:48:31.640 not i'm not the type of person to have open relationship outside of my job i'm not really into

04:48:36.120 that i don't get pleasure from going and being with a bunch of people it's just like my job so yeah and

04:48:43.160 i think that's fine but do you think the type of men who would do who would be with you are going to

04:48:50.600 have the values you want like what if a guy will let you do all that stuff what kind of values do

04:48:55.480 you think he values in a woman himself well i wouldn't expect like like you like he said most

04:49:01.000 of them are cucks if they if they are okay with that but if i was to date a civilian which i might but

04:49:06.440 i would probably just film with them or something because i think that if he doesn't want that yeah if

04:49:10.760 he doesn't want that what you do film with them but if he doesn't want to be filmed then i wouldn't

04:49:15.800 include him okay yeah interesting yeah i have to that's like my job and i also like you know what

04:49:23.480 i mean sure i have one can i ask one more question sure i was just wondering would you be comfortable

04:49:28.840 if you had kids right now to be doing your job well i don't know when i'll have kids and if i had kids

04:49:34.120 right now i would have be they'd be very like i'm 21 i'd have to be having babies at like 18 but um

04:49:40.120 i mean most i would be comfortable with that it's just that most almost every single content

04:49:45.240 creator i know has kids i go hang out with like the other people i know they're like they got a

04:49:49.320 six-year-old they got a six-year-old some of the guys i know they have 20 year olds they have like

04:49:53.080 so many kids depending on how old they are everybody has a baby mom like most sws have a kid and but

04:49:59.240 they're not married and they some of them are married some of them are married some of them are in

04:50:03.800 relationships a lot of the time i'm not gonna lie like i filmed with like i filmed with four people this

04:50:09.080 week and i think two of them are in one of them's married and one of them is in a like a committed

04:50:15.160 relationship carnal knowledge with four people this week i have no idea what sex but i do agree

04:50:21.320 with what she's saying i'm like a portion yeah a lot of people that i know that are very big content

04:50:26.440 creator like in london and stuff and melons are married or having children the man is just a house

04:50:31.880 man he just lays down get the money he doesn't care you keep you keep so i think men are getting very

04:50:37.640 feminine and women getting very manly at this point i do got to move things on a little bit

04:50:42.040 they're not public about it but most of them are married going to yeah agree going to peachy here uh

04:50:47.880 you said that you love that brian advocates for big labia women i do hashtag big

04:50:54.760 labia matter i think it's and i i think on that on the other flip side of that foreskins matter too i

04:51:02.200 think that like judging a person on their genitals i got mine removed it's just ridiculous especially

04:51:08.840 when i have a picture of it as well you got labioplasty and i got a picture of that i i wanted to take it

04:51:14.120 home on strong water as well oh my god i got pictures of that so i wanted to take them home as

04:51:20.600 well in strong water yes it would be so funny i have pictures of that as well i can send it to you

04:51:26.600 later you can pop it in later no they were so big it was hurting me what as well you know if

04:51:33.560 i wear like a g-string like that lace top they got stuck in between so when the inseam on denim

04:51:40.360 shorts is your biggest enemy and when i was just wearing like a bikini it would look like a dick

04:51:45.080 between my legs that is how big they were you know when a chihuahua gets really old and its tongue

04:51:49.400 hangs out it's mouth i swear to god that's what you guys are looking like is that what's going on

04:51:53.320 a whole new road that's an overstatement they were just like really really really big really big you

04:51:59.800 can make a whole new highway with that they were too big you were darling they are you have to do

04:52:04.440 like nope and you're perfect like see some open now now how you call it over your gates you have to

04:52:09.960 like pull them apart i've been i've been catfished by girls they're like hey brian i've got a big i'm

04:52:14.920 gonna show you pictures after that you will be like oh damn bro no you will be like oh damn okay

04:52:19.480 i just appreciate that you advocate for all these girls claiming you cannot no you cannot

04:52:23.720 even have normal sex they've got a midi no wait when he puts his dick in the lady will also go in

04:52:30.120 i would like it hurts he's up it hurts he was up yes and it looks like a dick when i

04:52:38.840 oh stop you're fine they were dead big they removed on each side like this sort of part it

04:52:44.360 it probably wasn't even i have picture you will you will be sorry for this one is that big if

04:52:49.080 you're a woman and you're listening to this you're perfect just stay as you are are you also on the

04:52:54.520 dude i hit him straight up who just whatever she's got going on she's just like yeah this is

04:53:00.760 what it's about if you are a woman and you are in pain please do something about it don't get a

04:53:05.800 labiaplasty don't do it please do if you are in pain it's your body don't do it don't do it don't do it

04:53:11.240 yeah look some girls they can have discomfort or whatever exactly but i think a lot of girls they

04:53:16.440 just feel insecure about it to be honest yeah but if you are in pain sure it's a weird thing to be

04:53:21.000 insecure about too i don't think god i can't imagine a guy looking at it nope that's like a guy with a

04:53:26.360 big dick and he's like oh it's kind of uncomfortable shrink down my dick like yeah yeah i got dick

04:53:34.360 even if it's uncomfortable keep the big

04:53:36.280 pussy okay keep it the only guy i've ever heard talk crap about big labias was that

04:53:41.400 comedian guy right yeah oh oh i love i love that i will debate him on labia for hell yeah

04:53:51.480 bring him in here for the blm team i want to be here as well show him all the pictures oh my god

04:53:59.000 yes i will i would take them with me on strong water oh my god it would be so funny

04:54:03.000 big big big labia yeah i only i only date women with big labia so oh that goes my chance rip

04:54:14.840 hopefully she can undo her labiaplasty with her good personality

04:54:19.560 stretching them out every night yeah you're gonna have to um you said that you play world of warcraft

04:54:24.200 but we need you need to talk to payo you yeah you are you down for him i could listen no listen hold

04:54:30.200 on we're buddies because i was but you were you were like bringing him up to the girls and like

04:54:35.320 none of them could appreciate you know like and then and then you showed the keyboard oh yeah and

04:54:43.720 yeah that was bad that was bad that was really bad really bad red black that's why he needs a woman

04:54:52.040 in his life though to help out with the household i guess yeah you should date him i could listen i used

04:54:57.800 to heal i used to heal and i hear he's a tank so oh wait he's a tank he said he was a he was a tank

04:55:05.320 he mostly plays rogue and hunter oh who was i thinking about them oh i don't know anyways um

04:55:11.720 i can get you linked up with payo he's oh my god you should i don't know that keyboard was uh let's

04:55:16.840 see what about asmund gold do you know asmund gold i yeah yeah i actually watch him a lot he's

04:55:21.560 he's pretty funny okay uh let's see who else the notes do we have oh vivian okay uh vivian

04:55:30.360 dating topics if a young woman dates an older man for money is that prostitution yeah you like said it

04:55:35.720 earlier which is funny you like brought that extinct like the same question so what do you think

04:55:43.640 um is it prostitution i kind of well no no i would i would say it isn't but like i'm pretty open

04:55:54.680 minded like i genuinely kind of don't know so that's why i'm asking people okay uh

04:56:02.360 if you exchange goods or services for access to your body in a situation where you wouldn't they

04:56:07.800 would not have access to you sans goods and services then you are doing sex work yeah so

04:56:13.480 like when people say oh i i like i have a sugar daddy and then they act like they're sugaring

04:56:18.920 sugaring is a different word for prostitution just modern you're just a you're just a

04:56:25.000 work you're a prostitute with a regular client yeah but then how do like

04:56:30.840 but it's just the same thing as saying i'm a content creator no we are just horse on the internet

04:56:36.440 yeah yeah i'm actually like covering up a name yeah so it's just like modern prostitution so and

04:56:41.400 i can't say that because i'm on sugar daddy side as well it's just modern so but what about i mean

04:56:45.320 like i i don't like if it is of the nature of women to be attracted to successful men

04:56:53.800 because they have money is that like i don't think there's anything wrong if a woman's attracted to

04:57:00.040 a guy because he's successful it's not that we fall in love i think i think what i think good

04:57:06.440 women are attracted to success i think bad women are attracted to money success doesn't necessarily

04:57:11.720 correlate to money you you know a guy could be let's say an olympic gold medalist sprinter

04:57:17.880 and there's not a lot of money in that he's just he makes like you know a middle class income and

04:57:23.000 there could be thousands of women that are like this super athlete is so hot i want to date him he's

04:57:27.960 well respected yada yada but he doesn't have money whereas there could be a guy who just like

04:57:32.600 inherited millions of dollars and they're like you're successful you're hot he's not successful

04:57:37.640 they're attracted to to money material and well met oh lol paladins donated two hundred dollars

04:57:43.720 and two cents i don't think she should date pay yo she's too old for what he prefers like game

04:57:50.680 of thrones too old if you know what i mean yikes wait like game of thrones i don't too

04:57:57.800 old uh i think he's saying wait what

04:58:04.520 payo you're gonna let him talk about you like that all right thank you uh lol paladins appreciate it

04:58:09.720 man uh okay so i guess i do have a question for you though sure am i yeah why is everything nowadays

04:58:17.320 sugar-coated like i'm a portion i'm very open about it honestly i'm on sugar daddy's side as well

04:58:23.000 but like i just said why is everything nowadays so offensive why do i have to say like i'm a content

04:58:29.320 creator no we are porn stars why do is everything in life has a different name i'm not a person no

04:58:34.920 in the world i mean in the world to calm down a little bit but why is it everything is are you

04:58:40.520 gonna let isis are you gonna let her talk yeah i'm so sorry please good girl very good girl

04:58:47.400 either way dominated either way why is everything so sugar-coated like this yeah daddy arrangement it's

04:58:55.400 like a modern day of x-course thing obviously i see it that way maybe because i'm dodging very direct

04:59:03.320 but why is everything has is it because of social media you cannot say porn star well so why is it

04:59:08.760 called a little bit she is a content creator by all means because he makes videos for fun and

04:59:14.520 entertainment like not in a porn star way i see that more as a content creator influencer that i am i'm just

04:59:21.160 a porn star why am i a content creator in the name if i am a porn star and i also create content even if

04:59:26.840 my content is related to my body or luring men in if i see myself as a creative as an artist i should

04:59:34.920 be able to put that on my bio and that's not sugar coating it's just presenting it the way i want to

04:59:40.200 be perceived it would be like saying i'm not an assassin i'm a cleaner no that's totally different why

04:59:46.920 i clean up people's messes like but i asked him the question but you're trying to sugarcoat it yeah

04:59:53.160 yeah i asked him the question you want the non-negative connotation for the thing you're

04:59:56.920 doing maybe because i'm dutch and we are very direct why do you think that why is everything so

05:00:03.160 oh my god i cannot offend other people when i say that we have to come up with a different name

05:00:07.160 why well i don't know if this is answering your question but you're talking like there's the sugar

05:00:11.720 sugar baby sugar daddy escorting so i mean there's this idea of the euphemism treadmill

05:00:16.520 so a term will be deemed defensive then a new term will replace it but after enough use that term

05:00:23.080 will now be deemed defensive so for example it probably started out as like whoring prostitution

05:00:28.520 then it went into escorting and now it's sugar like being a sugar baby they're essentially the

05:00:33.720 same things that's what basically why is there a different name every time well i think escorting

05:00:38.680 has a stigma now and prostitution had a stigma now escorting has a stigma now it's like i'm a sugar baby

05:00:45.640 which has conceivably less stigma but you're still essentially a whore yeah and i do not disagree

05:00:52.520 with that or judge woman on it i'm on sugar daddy side i don't care but we are more direct with it i

05:00:58.040 do not understand why this has to be a different name every time why are you so ashamed for what

05:01:02.280 you're doing if you're doing girl do it get that money we don't care but why do you have to like

05:01:07.000 sugarcoat it like oh my god no no no i'm not escorting it's like sugar why if you want sugar go to the

05:01:13.640 supermarket i don't get it yeah probably just maybe because i'm dutch i do not it's probably

05:01:17.400 it's probably uh just has to do with the uh whole stigma thing well a question for you would you oops

05:01:22.920 because you're dutch what the fuck would you date geert wilders who's that do you have a picture you

05:01:27.880 don't know geert do you have a picture nick could you here please tell me a picture i'll put i'll put

05:01:32.760 in the private chat um once he has a private chat as well oh my god he's dutch really you don't know

05:01:39.080 gear to wall oh oh my god it's not geared it's geared but do you know cherry baudet i know he

05:01:48.680 followed me right cherry baudet dutch politician who has led the right wing no no wait wait wait

05:01:54.040 put it put us on the other side no no look up cherry baudet look up cherry baudet he follows me on

05:01:59.800 instagram as well well he's hot as fuck is he a politician yeah we should have been doing a

05:02:05.000 podcast together with the tape brothers as well but he's hot but geert is selected as well to become

05:02:11.720 the president of the netherlands but now he doesn't because it's weird but he's very right

05:02:16.680 he's very people label him as a racist stuff but we are dutch so we have very racist humor as well we

05:02:23.560 roast people for a living but we do not have that sort of feelings like oh my god you have my feelings we

05:02:27.640 do not have that so i don't know i think he will never what is the there's a specific thing with

05:02:33.720 the way that dutch have like worded insults it's like canker or wait uh conquer soy tearing liar

05:02:41.720 yeah we we we will curse you out with the worst illnesses you can imagine i will wish death upon you

05:02:49.480 i will wish you cancer your mother cancer that your children die and we will just laugh about it we

05:02:54.840 were like haha that's so funny oh my god i'm gonna read when i hit my elbow to someone i was like

05:03:01.000 cancer and that's weird i'm gonna read three chats and we'll get to the next notes we have blah fest

05:03:05.960 i'm a traditional trusting and loving man i love my wife and my two girlfriends so much i don't think

05:03:11.160 i have in my heart to cheat on them do you need another girlfriend i can be your third that was worth

05:03:16.200 the hundred dollars yeah do you need another girlfriend banger joke all right we have old

05:03:21.400 man marine thanks we have old man marine oh can i have you read this uh peachy polygamy is illegal

05:03:29.000 but there are many men and women out there with multiple marriages children with different people

05:03:33.000 and fucking anyone not much of a difference basically a polygamous society old man marine

05:03:38.840 good to see you back in the chat man thank you for the uh message really appreciate it thank you

05:03:43.080 you then we have warlord 69 doing only fans is oh i'll have you read it go ahead oh sorry doing

05:03:52.680 only fans is prostitution by definition ladies i will only accept a woman that will bow i will not

05:03:57.480 help you in the woods unless you are ready for the woods i will be on our oh wait nobody's choosing

05:04:02.600 the men everybody's choosing the bears so you're not going to be in the no i choose the man well okay

05:04:06.920 i know hello came up i'll ask the question oh starting with isis so here's the scenario you are

05:04:14.360 magically transported into the woods now you can choose to either have a random man also magically

05:04:21.640 transported to the woods or a random bear magically transport into the woods and in this scenario you

05:04:26.680 are going to cross paths with either the man or the bear i think can you strain your mic a little

05:04:32.360 bit is there more is that all the conditions and so there's no motivation why is the man in the

05:04:37.960 woods it's just like you random man random man transported into the woods the bear i would choose

05:04:44.440 to pick the bear what about you the man okay what about you the man you will die if you fight a bear

05:04:49.240 have you seen those things i don't want to fight which do you pick the man man man you can scoot

05:04:55.720 into the table a little bit sorry i'm an average man but i've been in the woods with bears because

05:04:59.800 i go hiking a lot and you just go and make a noise and they're like oh that's big and scary okay so

05:05:05.800 you pick the man or the bear i guess the average man like from random man off the street if i don't

05:05:10.920 have to have to deal with it i have to deal with them it's random you don't know maybe i mean likely

05:05:15.560 i don't think they're gonna hurt me what about you the man what do you pick shane well yeah dude i

05:05:21.720 hike i see if we if you all go hiking right now the scenario plays out you'll walk by many random

05:05:27.320 men and everything's fine let's be honest you men really with this question in the back of your

05:05:33.960 mind as a man i think every man thinks like i can take on a bear oh for sure yeah just in the back

05:05:40.200 of their mind it will be like i think i can take down a bear i would try yeah exactly

05:05:44.600 maybe a black bear a man for sure okay why do you pick a bear be loud because at least with the

05:05:52.040 bear they'll just kill me uh okay i get the point but so so the question then um i don't want to

05:06:00.920 face the consequence of the men but so you're doing a risk assessment so you're saying well yeah not

05:06:07.080 all men would attack me but the risk is high enough by picking a man that i think i'm more likely

05:06:13.160 to be attacked by the man as compared to the bear not not so much i think there's a higher likelihood

05:06:17.880 and probably like probability that there the man won't hurt me and it's safer than the bear however

05:06:26.600 in the case that the man is a worst man and a bad man a man like i mentioned in the past

05:06:32.600 he will be afraid of you that man will be so afraid of you oh my god the worst he can do is a

05:06:39.480 thousand times worse than what a bear could do to me so i for me personally of course some people

05:06:45.800 this is gambling problem right some people want to do with go with the higher probability i want to go

05:06:50.280 with the better death so bears eat you while you're still alive but you know what i think like i will

05:06:57.880 kill myself you know i can kill myself and i but if you are tied up by a man and you know i don't

05:07:04.680 want to violate anything i you cannot you cannot you know the man in the woods with you is snidely

05:07:10.040 whiplash he's gonna tie you up and put you on the train tracks that's all i'm saying probability

05:07:15.320 game okay so that's my choice well so then what percentage of men do you think would be inclined to

05:07:21.560 uh attack you or victimize you in some way i don't know but that's what we're asking so you're

05:07:26.840 doing a risk assessment i don't know 50 the question is meant to make a point i think like

05:07:33.400 realistically like he said you go hiking in the woods i go hiking a lot um like you cross a lot

05:07:39.240 of random men and you're just like you're you're good i'm i'm not dead but the thing is like it's

05:07:44.440 meant to make a point that like even a cruel animal that will eat you while you're alive will still not

05:07:49.240 like do some of the assault type things that like men yes kind of subject so if i even if i'll just

05:07:56.600 go ahead and grant that yeah there are there are very few monstrous men out there uh but the the

05:08:03.560 question is then um given this you're willing to you'd rather be with a bear then in all likelihood

05:08:13.720 if you just select a random man out of the population totally harmless would never hurt you

05:08:20.200 would probably even help you in some sort of forest survival situation there's a woman that tied

05:08:25.800 herself to the top of tree for three months and that's after it was everybody was after her there's

05:08:31.800 police men and everything so in this scenario if there's a bear i can just live on the trees and

05:08:37.080 i can survive that but if but there's a man next to me and i'm on a tree that man can get me

05:08:43.080 how do you tie yourself are so good at climbing by the way i just want to say that real quick

05:08:47.400 they've super climbed so much i've been in a tree stand and had a bear come up i never hike so i do

05:08:53.160 not know how do you do that i do not hike so i do not know that like bear climb the tree but i feel

05:08:58.200 like in a forest you could find like a safe spot but when you have a human intelligence to trace your

05:09:03.400 steps it's a higher likelihood especially bad very wishing vicious man can be very smart too you know

05:09:09.400 what about what about like you hang out with a what if you hang out with a random man and then

05:09:21.080 take him home would you rather take the random man home at night or a bear

05:09:25.800 like what's more likely to happen because he's a stranger you're having a one night stand

05:09:30.440 how are you any safer than everything exists in the context it's very like sensationalized it's just meant

05:09:35.640 to kind of like i mean it the question is not like i feel like literal almost do you know what

05:09:40.040 i mean yeah most people i think most people like it's like well realistically yeah but i get the point

05:09:45.160 that they're trying to make when they ask they are just afraid of sexual assault yes exactly

05:09:51.320 please don't be naive a bear will not do that to you like there's a lot more than sexual assault

05:09:56.520 i was talking further right so you'd rather be your tips a little bit well they could kill you at the end

05:10:02.760 i think you're all of your ex you're so right human beings are so much more cruel than any animal

05:10:08.920 could be we're capable of wild horrible things every one of us went to school we've read history we

05:10:14.200 know how bad people can be the con the idea is that women very smugly want to say that they feel

05:10:21.240 safer in the forest with a bear which just seems intellectually inconsistent because almost all women

05:10:27.480 are alone with men very often and if i put you in a room with a bear like jackass style you would

05:10:33.480 lose your mind like i said it exists in the context if i'm going out partying i'm conversing with this

05:10:39.320 person i as this person has friends i assume he's a functioning social member but in the woods when

05:10:45.400 there's a likelihood of you running into a psychopath you don't know and you're trapped together so it's like

05:10:51.400 you know you have serial killers in the club from the bottom of my heart i truly believe that the

05:10:56.760 chances of a man hiking being more normal than a guy at like a party or a bar is so much i'm not

05:11:02.600 talking about hiking people what his question is he's dropping a random man so like anybody on this

05:11:08.840 world have equal probability however in a bar it's more likely that people who are not psychopaths

05:11:14.520 have friends and talking to you like a normal person this is about you know a lot of psycho killers and

05:11:19.400 stuff are just the most friendly nice neighbors good in a neighborhood had a lot of friends don't

05:11:25.640 you think there would be more dangerous men in a party setting rather than going on a hike though

05:11:30.760 but that's what i'm saying i think hiking men there would be danger and partying men have danger to what

05:11:36.040 you said is correct but i'm saying that the question didn't ask you hiking and you ran into a hiking

05:11:41.400 man and rest you are dropping a random man you're lost in the woods too a random man so like

05:11:47.800 you you are a bad person or a good good man or bad man it's equal likely you know but if you get

05:11:53.400 lost in the woods it is a random man that rescues you that's true so i mean he is random you don't

05:11:59.800 know him he's a stranger not always i mean i guess it's different it's like you're trapped in an island

05:12:04.840 there's nobody rescue or whatever okay situation it's not hiking okay all right i feel like it gets

05:12:12.120 kind of misinterpreted like i don't think it's it's very much like not literal because of course like

05:12:20.200 a random man is you know a bear is probably more likely to kill you um just based on

05:12:29.960 what yeah it happened a couple months ago here in california right yeah so it's more yeah it's more i

05:12:36.200 feel about like there are genuinely women that that feel that way like because they've just had

05:12:46.280 awful personal experiences and it's usually just like it's not like usually a bunch of men it's

05:12:52.760 usually like one man can make you answer it that way it's interesting that the question is framed

05:12:59.880 in such a way that like kind of tries to belittle men or make us feel like we're bad

05:13:04.360 when you're reaching out to like express how you've been hurt and how scary men are to you

05:13:11.400 and you're doing it in a way that antagonizes men instead of a way that like makes men understand you

05:13:17.400 and want to be better yeah that's the whole problem with the internet discourse around men and women

05:13:22.600 it's like you don't have to try and dunk on us over a bear you could just say hey a lot of men really

05:13:27.640 scare me and i wouldn't want to be alone with one and i want you to be better all the time

05:13:31.640 we say that you guys don't listen it's not i just think it's sexist to be honest yeah

05:13:37.880 i think it's inflammatory every single person i know in their life a lot of people didn't give

05:13:44.120 their first time away consensually and it's always pushed and the line is really blurry because you

05:13:49.320 don't know what's true what's not because when you say no they keep you know aren't you the one

05:13:54.680 hopping men in clubs huh i don't hop on men in clubs speak for yourself you're dancing i mean

05:14:01.160 you didn't describe earlier like kissing someone and you're like and so i inferred that he was into

05:14:05.560 it i started groping all over him yeah i see that's a sexual assault as well yeah i thought you said hop

05:14:11.480 on that no i'm telling you like we're making out it makes sense that's the next logical step because

05:14:16.840 you so in your mind you made it into something dirty you just said we were making out it was the

05:14:22.600 next logical step that i grabbed his so you accept so couldn't the guy say the same thing we're making

05:14:27.240 out and he froze you were scared she's like she's grabbing my dick because when i move my hand next

05:14:32.280 to his thigh he put his hand on me to move closer to the penis and when someone when i don't want

05:14:38.840 someone when they touch my shoulder it's obvious these signs are obvious and you guys don't listen i don't

05:14:44.040 think consent always has to be like hey let's check the yes or no box like i think that it's kind of

05:14:48.920 like um i mean there's like a nuance to it yeah exactly and you're just saying like black and white

05:14:54.600 so okay so anyways um i do think though it is interesting because i'll grant you that plenty

05:15:01.320 of women have had poor experiences with some men yeah but like the overwhelming majority of men are

05:15:08.120 totally safe it's not you're allowing one bad experience from somebody to soil a whole group

05:15:17.240 of people which sounds you know like sexism racism like any of that you know women talk about like

05:15:25.320 their issues with men and like assault they're usually not targeting the men that are not doing

05:15:29.720 it but men always feel attacked can i ask you a question if you put the question in the other way

05:15:34.280 around you're dropped in the forest with a bear and another woman you do not know because a lot

05:15:40.840 of women are also psychopathical killers narcissists and everything would you still choose the bear

05:15:46.440 or is that sexist i mean because you will probably go to the women right because a woman is not that

05:15:51.640 dangerous as a man you can answer that god if you want i think that like like i said like logically

05:15:56.600 like i would pick the the man because it's a random lady she's probably not going to do that but

05:16:00.360 like the question the point of question is to make a like like make a point and i think that you

05:16:05.080 switch it to a woman i still would say the same thing but so instead of just saying like because okay

05:16:10.600 if for example uh 90 of men i don't know the actual number probably more than 90 percent 95 who

05:16:18.760 knows the number let's just say it's 90 of men totally harmless would never hurt a woman whatever i

05:16:24.520 don't think that i feel like you think it's more i think more i think a lot of men like i don't i also

05:16:29.800 like i mean a lot of women are victims and a lot of men are victims but like i most of the women i

05:16:35.080 know have been a victim to some kind of thing i don't know many men that would say that but i think

05:16:39.960 as a woman we talk about it because we want to help other women and i think a lot of men get assaulted

05:16:44.280 as well her or an abusive relationship the killing rate of men are much higher than women so i think men

05:16:51.400 do not speak about it so we do not know the exact numbers of how bad women can be i think we as a

05:16:58.280 a woman can be horrible yeah yes but why do your men are afraid to talk about it because of the

05:17:03.320 patriarchy because it's not i don't think it's the patriarch it is it's because men are who is

05:17:09.640 shaming these men saying oh you should have liked it you should have it's the a lot of men get raped

05:17:14.680 assaults they the numbers that men are killing us are so much higher than women why do you think that

05:17:19.800 is men i just i don't understand like so you think that there's like men broadly speaking are like kind

05:17:26.680 of fine with i've heard this term there's that there's a grape culture is that what you're talking

05:17:31.640 about um not really but i mean i do i do think misunderstanding no i don't i don't i don't know

05:17:37.320 i don't think it's i think that it happens a lot like very often like people do experience things like

05:17:42.680 that um i would say like if it's brought to the attention people usually like average person is

05:17:48.920 probably like hey that's not okay but like it i feel like it does happen a lot and people are likely to

05:17:54.440 try to silence a woman say oh she wants like like i don't know like epstein or like any kind of

05:17:59.240 famous person or like all these different cases you know what i mean like they are likely to say oh

05:18:03.800 the woman just wants attention the woman like is trying like shut her down yeah they they say she

05:18:09.000 wanted to get something out of this like that's what the yeah i think that but i do think that a

05:18:14.760 lot of the time men do experience the same issues as women they're less likely to talk about it

05:18:20.040 because people will shame them and that's why they don't talk about it but i think there's a lot

05:18:24.920 more women yes i definitely for sure think it's a lot more women um that that experience it but

05:18:31.640 statistically like that doesn't make and there's yeah and there's plenty of of men who get falsely

05:18:36.840 accused of these sort of things and it absolutely ruins their life it's insane but i don't really

05:18:42.840 think that i don't think more women's lives are ruined by men in terms of this the men's lives i don't

05:18:49.080 more proportionally like i i mean i really don't think false accusations like i mean look at the

05:18:55.560 news you really don't think what i don't think they're that that often they're don't it's super

05:18:59.800 common no false accusations it's pretty common it also affects minority communities much more than

05:19:05.240 white communities so when people are like uh do you know patrice o'neill yeah i do so patrice o'neill

05:19:11.240 super famous comedian one of the funniest comedians r.i.p patrice o'neill so he um he dated a

05:19:18.760 white woman or hooked up with a white white woman and there was like some component of judgment from

05:19:25.400 her peer group this was probably back in the 80s or 90s that she hooked up with a black guy

05:19:31.480 and instead of just dealing with the regret she falsely accused him of essay and he i think he went

05:19:39.960 to jail and how do they know it's false how do you know that these men actually essayed you say

05:19:46.360 why would i lie about you why would hold on why would you lie about this yes why there's a lot

05:19:52.120 yeah yeah people lie about all kinds of women murder people has a girl ever lied about you has a girl

05:19:58.920 ever made up some about you yes but this is a serious accusation this is not this is

05:20:02.600 people lie i agree women lie all the time about this women lie about who got them pregnant do lie

05:20:10.120 but please tell me why someone would what are you do you know how much you have to do you know how

05:20:15.240 much you stand to gain from a lie they get so much hate and these women they get pressured with like

05:20:20.680 lawsuits and all this insane what do you mean they get victim points they get victim points

05:20:25.080 this is not you're assuming a woman wants to be victim they get to people who get to indulge in

05:20:29.560 their victim identity it's literally like why like they get silenced so quickly and people hate

05:20:34.600 one no they literally don't that's your perspective as a giovanni jade he donated

05:20:39.080 so real you're one of those like uh man literally admitted and bragged about essay on camera 90 minutes

05:20:44.920 ago and is now backing off it straight to jail they're not sending their best folks also chick next to

05:20:52.760 pink has a tummy ache oh oh also i was gonna say is that like calling me fat no no no no no

05:21:00.840 maybe he's talking about like a face you're making or something i don't know rbf um yeah giovanni

05:21:07.000 thank you for the tts okay so you're about to call me a men's rights activist what would actually be

05:21:11.880 wrong with being a men's right there's nothing wrong with that but the thing is a lot of these men

05:21:15.880 yeah so yeah i stand up for men who are falsely accused you should too as a woman because women

05:21:21.320 right now hold on but women who make false accusations discredit women who actually are

05:21:26.680 victims of these things it makes it harder for it makes it harder for them to get justice

05:21:31.960 so i think uh essay is a fucking terrible crime awful crime they should be prosecuted to the full

05:21:41.480 fullest extent of the law but also women will make false accusations too and that this is an issue for

05:21:49.080 men that needs to be addressed but you know what is it is like really ridiculous whenever a woman

05:21:53.400 brings up any kind of sexual assault or any kind of anything like that men immediately go instead

05:21:57.480 of being like oh that's really bad they go what about men what about men shut up exactly what about

05:22:01.160 men are you talking about twitter or real life portion real life i do kind of second that in my

05:22:06.360 experience men kind of really really defensive they do big sass energy donated two hundred dollars

05:22:12.520 trevor bauer the baseball player falsely accused of essay major recent case got kicked out of the mlb

05:22:21.720 woman absolutely do this stuff all don't say all the time okay then you list five assault right now

05:22:27.720 five sexual assault men that were wrongly accused i can i can say 10 i can say 12 i can say 20 right now

05:22:34.360 uh trevor bauer patrice o'neal there was um i think kobe was falsely accused the jackson five

05:22:42.920 um or the central park five weren't they sent falsely accused oh oh here's a friend here's a good

05:22:53.000 one uh who is that um wait wait hold on uh oh man this was like in the like she's been trying to talk

05:23:01.640 wait wait um it like essentially started the civil rights uh huh no what it was this emmett till

05:23:12.360 emmett till this was a 14 year old boy and i guess he was going to a gas station or something

05:23:18.680 and he made a comment towards a white woman this is in the deep south she goes and tells her family

05:23:25.560 that this 14 year old boy said something kind of whatever hit on her whatever spoke to her didn't

05:23:33.080 didn't touch her didn't say her just spoke said something that uh uh i guess there's a race there's

05:23:40.280 racism component to this too so she tells this lie who knows why and then her family lynches him kills him

05:23:49.160 and beats him to a pulp 14 year old boy gets lynched and then on her death bed confesses that it was

05:23:57.720 all a lie that is a very sad story i'm i'm it's very unfortunate it happened it shouldn't happen but you

05:24:03.560 keep listing individual cases where men were wrongly accused and then women women women were you asked me to

05:24:12.360 give you you asked me to give you and then and then like the thing is but i can list hundreds of

05:24:17.640 women who are sexually assaulted so if we're weighing the women are hurt so much more there's a few cases

05:24:22.680 of men getting like that but we also in both of the examples i mean i'm not trying to like here

05:24:26.920 do a tit for tat comparison hold on i'm not trying to do a tit for tat comparison here but like i have

05:24:33.240 not committed to memory like every single i've heard of hundreds of instances of men who've been

05:24:38.760 falsely accused hundreds of instances i don't commit them to memory but like yeah go ahead oh

05:24:46.200 well i was gonna say i just feel like there's a difference when you're talking about essay you're

05:24:53.880 saying it's such a small amount of men and it's just like irrational that women would be choosing the

05:25:00.840 bear um or like making that point but but you're so quick to say false accusations happen all the

05:25:08.600 time they do yeah well i would just say like the numbers they're either comparable or rape must be

05:25:17.640 higher because it's yeah it's a more common crime and like like it's it's still in sorry well they've

05:25:26.760 done there's been various analysis and studies on this they typically put the rate of false accusations

05:25:34.600 anywhere from eight percent to forty five percent in some studies i don't really i don't know fine

05:25:40.280 you don't have to believe it but those are some of the studies that have been done but like an agreed

05:25:44.280 upon number is eight percent okay well listen so i've experienced a lot of really bad stuff in my

05:25:49.480 lifetime okay and the man scot-free nothing happened to him he's had a whole girlfriend did you go to the

05:25:55.640 police no but i was a child and these men get away with it that's okay well i mean i obviously object

05:26:01.960 to child abuse but like i'm not saying that this stuff doesn't happen but we're talking this is all

05:26:08.520 within the context of the bear conversation and you guys are saying well the the risk is so so

05:26:14.280 significant no it's not of essay what do you mean it's not significant like we've all pretty much like

05:26:22.040 the the statistics like we know it's not it's not likely to happen it's not as likely it's the

05:26:30.200 women have an emotional you know emotional damage from men okay so here i have to wrap up on the bear

05:26:37.000 thing did you have something on this i don't even remember anymore well hold on so i'm i gotta move on

05:26:43.640 from this but so i guess where i'm going with all this is my view is to say bear it's essentially you're

05:26:51.720 just being sexist towards men because if i were to give you a scenario if we just change it to

05:26:58.440 would you rather be in the forest with a pale and well met lol paladins donated two hundred dollars

05:27:04.200 and two cents prove that women like constantly go ahead was was you just said you could name

05:27:11.000 one hundreds of women go ahead we are waiting you've currently named zero lie some more you just lied to

05:27:18.840 win an argument she's behind the scenes she heard it while paladins um one sec so uh anyways it's not

05:27:26.920 really like i'm not trying to do like a competition she asked me to name some i named a couple i have

05:27:31.800 this is not like my primary talking point here um in fact it rarely comes up on the show but it came up

05:27:37.880 tonight um i've heard from i've heard so many stories especially in college this is crazy how they handle it in

05:27:46.200 college title nine these men are absolutely just like losing their college careers over like dubious

05:27:51.720 accusations um in any case uh look if genuinely happens i think these men ought to be prosecuted

05:27:59.160 to the fullest extent of the law but i also believe in innocent until proven guilty and uh it very much

05:28:04.280 seems when it comes to these specific kinds of accusations innocent until proven guilty is totally thrown out

05:28:10.280 the window so i do just have to say on this bear thing so you i'll grant that you've had bad

05:28:18.360 experiences with men but to then go ahead and just have this sort of general bias against men is like

05:28:23.960 well as long as you just say you're sexist okay you'll have to also say for example if we put a black

05:28:31.880 man in this situation would you rather be in the forest with a black man or a bear and you pick bear

05:28:38.600 you're gonna have to be racist if no if that was actually true that that people like had a reason

05:28:45.800 to be threatened by another race of people then it would be true but women are physically so let me ask

05:28:52.360 you a lot of reasons let me ask you a question so let's say i had a bad experience with a black man

05:28:57.960 and then from there on out i held a bias against all black men i was fearful of them i was scared

05:29:05.160 they're gonna attack me i would like get away from them i wouldn't associate with them wouldn't be

05:29:09.640 friends with them wouldn't do business with them whatever it is would that be racist um if i had

05:29:17.000 you hate if you hate another race of people if you think they're inferior then that is racist so if

05:29:21.960 that's if that's what you're describing then yeah is it what i'm describing what uh you said like you

05:29:29.160 avoid okay i'll make it really simple if somebody has one negative experience with a black person

05:29:36.360 and because of that one negative experience they then um they're scared of black people in general

05:29:43.880 is that racist um yeah i would say that okay so then it's sexist for women who have had one bad

05:29:49.800 experience with men not one okay fine three it's like no but i don't think you understand that women

05:29:56.600 experience like like small cuts like like you know death by a thousand cuts it's like always

05:30:03.720 something that yeah there's men who are annoying men can just never understand like

05:30:10.360 men can never understand how women like yeah you get a lot of creepy attention from men we get it

05:30:15.640 no you actually don't because you're not a woman and you haven't grown up as like as a girl and like

05:30:20.600 the amount of like men that will like look at you and your child like yes it's genuinely true

05:30:27.720 wait no no no hold on actually actually if you look at what's going on in the school system you have

05:30:32.840 a bunch of women who are essaying underage children male children but there's a lot more

05:30:39.400 male predators oh no there's way more female teachers there's way more female teachers there's

05:30:46.040 way more female teachers who are essaying children can i still say something all right can i say

05:30:53.160 something because it's quite a fiery topic at the moment first i want to start it's horrible what

05:30:59.000 happened to you i hope later in life they still get them i think the system loss system will get

05:31:04.920 there eventually so i hope you get the closure you need some eventually to start off uh i'm studying

05:31:11.640 law and i see a lot of twisted stories and a lot of those stories in the courtroom are about falsely

05:31:19.720 accused men women that go out with fake ideas fake everything i don't do not say that every woman does

05:31:27.720 i just say it happens uh i think that's wrong i think that's very wrong as well i think a lot of

05:31:34.600 men do not speak out because of shame i think if as a woman we have something happening to us

05:31:41.320 we do not always speak out right away that's why you have stories like a year later or two years later

05:31:46.120 that you finally have the courage to speak about what happened to you and you are very brave if you

05:31:50.760 finally do with men it's the same thing men are not monsters they have feelings sometimes as well

05:31:56.200 takes time for men to speak out i think that's why the numbers aren't there yet and i think also we

05:32:02.280 live in a time it's very hard to be a man sometimes because if you give a compliment in this time of age

05:32:07.960 to one like hey you smell very nice it's like oh my god don't talk to me i have a boyfriend that's

05:32:13.480 sexual assault i think the time we are living in is very confusing for both parts we want to have

05:32:20.280 boundaries want to be respectful to ourselves but in the same time it's very hard to be human and talk

05:32:28.040 like hey girl you look nice today it's like oh my god why you talk to me like do you like sexualize

05:32:32.520 me no girl just being honest you look great today you know it's very hard sometimes to be a man as well

05:32:39.000 so i think we have to look at both made ways men are not all monsters i see grown-ass men cry about

05:32:47.720 everything and stuff so and the same as woman calm down i think the numbers aren't there yet because

05:32:55.480 men are so ashamed so so ashamed i think a man looks at himself and thinks of himself as less of a man

05:33:04.760 for something like that to happen and there's a very as a woman we do as well right we are so ashamed

05:33:09.640 when something happens to us our womanhood is taking away we do not feel as a woman anymore

05:33:14.200 think about it in your head a man would feel probably the same like damn i just froze we we

05:33:20.120 froze when something some people freeze when something happens to you like why would i let

05:33:24.280 that happen to me i just laid there and didn't do because you froze you're scared it's like

05:33:29.640 people react that way some men have the same response that's what i see in the courtroom

05:33:34.520 just freeze they just freeze old man marine donated two hundred dollars where's the video of the man

05:33:41.160 saving the women from drowning would you rather swim with sharks or be picked up by a random man in a

05:33:47.160 boat okay who picks shark who would rather be in the ocean with a shark than a random man in a boat

05:33:53.720 okay uh the sharks are so scary they just defeated the whole question

05:34:00.040 old uh old man marine thank you for the message we have another one coming in here and then we have

05:34:05.080 two more chats stinky da magic poo it's known fact is social sociology circles that women abuse

05:34:11.400 the elder and children more frequently than men it's just never talked about because it's faux pas

05:34:15.560 to present anything female in poor light and then there is something kind of related to the bear thing

05:34:21.640 here um for example like women commit the vast majority of uh neo naticide so if we use the

05:34:29.160 same logic in the man versus bear thing could we conclude that it's safer to entrust a baby with a

05:34:35.880 bear than the baby's own mother anyways i don't know that came to mind we have two chats we have oh there's

05:34:44.840 another one can you read this one drop your diocese number no eucharist i'll read it because it's about

05:34:52.360 me shane talking about receiving nudes and hooking up drop your diocese number no eucharist for you

05:34:57.240 see you at confession or your exorcist 300 hail mary's please firstly i genuinely need to go to

05:35:02.440 confession i am not a perfect catholic and i'm a new catholic and it's very hard to meet the

05:35:06.840 expectations and i will try for the rest of my life and fail probably a lot secondly um i'm talking

05:35:12.120 about the past i was secular for 36 years man give me a break here and we have uh lol paladins

05:35:19.720 was was needs to stay away from casinos random man does not mean equality likely to hurt you has not

05:35:25.400 hurt you that isn't what random means unless you think 50 of men are grapers

05:35:32.280 random man does not mean equally likely to hurt you who's who's that i think her

05:35:37.800 maybe thank you lol paladins for that uh peachy can have you read these sure 25 to 30 percent of dna

05:35:45.880 tests and family court turn out to be the father is not the husband that's also very true i see this

05:35:52.200 a lot in the courtroom i also see this a lot it's very sad because if it gets to family court something

05:35:57.320 must have happened if they took a dna test something there must be like suspicion so in that

05:36:02.120 like denominator it's just a larger group of people that are you know have a hard chance of adultery so

05:36:08.760 it's like that's not an accurate representation of the world but if a man cheats on his wife he's

05:36:14.600 horrible but if a woman that's not my point all right uh we have jj mad can you read this one

05:36:23.080 sorry adhd the woman versus bear question is literally the smoking

05:36:29.080 i can't say that for why women should never have the right to vote damn okay all right there you go

05:36:36.840 thank you jj mad um appreciate it bro appreciate it thank you for the soup chat i think women should

05:36:42.840 be allowed to vote but they should also be drafted so um so there you have it uh back to the notes

05:36:49.640 i wanted to say about that back to the notes here uh going back to vivian you said you had hosts you

05:36:56.600 had disagreements uh on abortion i thought you were i thought andrew was going to be here and he is

05:37:02.840 like a lot more political so okay well i'll i don't know what you're like oh okay okay so sure andrew's

05:37:09.640 pro-life yeah okay what's your uh pro-choice position then so my position is if the baby could be um

05:37:19.000 um or fetus whatever you want to call it could be removed from the woman's body and still survive

05:37:27.560 then i think you should not have an abortion but otherwise i think if you if the baby if the fetus

05:37:36.360 baby needs to like be in this in here to survive sorry i would to survive i would say that that is

05:37:48.680 bodily autonomy sure well so if it's sorry right if it's incubating in a woman then it doesn't deserve

05:37:56.360 to live if it's incubating in a machine it does deserve to live i don't think that it's at a i

05:38:05.000 think i do like kind of compare like a very early stage fetus to like a bug like it probably has the

05:38:13.160 same amount of brain cells and ability to like survive like we don't we don't prosecute for killing

05:38:19.960 bugs yeah i just don't okay well um just before we get into it and we won't linger too long on the

05:38:26.200 abortion topic but just shove hands who's pro-choice pro-choice pro-life

05:38:36.120 wait but you also raised yeah it's because like yeah in a perfect world it'd be great if we could be

05:38:41.160 pro-life you know what i mean but we don't live in a perfect world so if you illegalize it people just

05:38:45.880 do stupid stuff like hurt themselves so they don't have to have a baby it's ridiculous i get her

05:38:49.800 point because i think if you're like sexually assaulted and you're under age and everything

05:38:54.360 like that and you're also going to have a baby with that it's oh that's hard and but i'm also very

05:39:01.160 pro-life okay the baby doesn't know i do have because it was rape but sure i think if it's like

05:39:08.280 under age and you're raped and everything and you're not careful guys that's true but you get my

05:39:14.920 point of view like it's hard i think it's the woman's choice then what you wanted to do

05:39:19.480 this is what i mean but in the same way i'm very pro-life it's not her so i'm like in between at

05:39:24.760 the moment but so i mean who shove hands who's pro-choice again i don't know okay well i guess

05:39:29.960 on that thing really quick um the thing is with i guess the pro-choice thing i would suspect that

05:39:37.400 if people who are pro-life actually allow to cut out for well okay most of them are fine with like

05:39:43.880 mother's life is at risk you can get an abortion um but then if they were like okay in the case of

05:39:49.720 like incest or essay yeah under those circumstances then you can i don't think they would make that

05:39:55.880 compromise though like because they would still want abortion rights for women who just

05:40:01.720 don't really feel like that as a man if you are very very pro-life um and there's nothing wrong

05:40:05.960 with that i do not disagree would you also play child support when it's still an infant because

05:40:11.560 it's alive right would you also pay that nine months of child support already because it's already

05:40:17.480 alive right just there is curiosity i mean that that is that is an argument that gets brought up but

05:40:23.560 uh i mean i would more more so be interested in asking the pro-choice women uh should men pay child

05:40:29.480 support before the baby's born assuming the mother wants to keep the child and you don't

05:40:37.720 i'm asking the question to the pro-choice um before the baby is born yeah should the man have

05:40:42.360 to pay child support no like medical you gotta you you gotta be into the microphone then for medical

05:40:48.120 expenses like during the pregnancy um honestly i haven't really thought about that but

05:40:56.120 do you think yeah you think men should so child support mean means what

05:41:05.720 well it's child i mean you could definitely how soon into the pregnancy should men pay child support

05:41:12.360 hold on hold on how soon into the pregnancy because as a woman you can find out you're pregnant

05:41:17.320 you can find out you're pregnant at six weeks right once you're what's once the baby is born

05:41:22.200 well okay that's the standard though but should men pay child support prior to the birth i mean i

05:41:30.760 don't think that's like a pressing issue you only carry a baby for nine months

05:41:36.440 do you think they should it's a should question it's such a small thing yeah yeah sure no

05:41:42.520 like if you have a loving supporting partner so just to be but so at what point okay so at what

05:41:48.360 point along the pregnancy should a man start paying child support as soon as she finds out at say six

05:41:54.040 weeks no when it's hold on okay but these two have different opinions when should the guy start paying

05:42:00.920 child support in a world where men are required to pay child support before the baby is born i guess

05:42:06.760 like inappropriate time would be um when she finds out she's pregnant no like

05:42:14.680 maybe it's like six months i don't know like when she is to start preparing i don't know it's stupid

05:42:20.360 it's like how much money is in that like just answer the question i don't know whatever yes no

05:42:26.520 it's such a stupid question so another question i don't think it's a stupid question but okay i believe

05:42:33.160 you believe you believe that okay um do you think or would you

05:42:42.040 show of hens again who's pro-choice just curious okay so those of you who are pro-choice

05:42:50.920 if you could if it meant that women would always have the right to an abortion uh would you be in

05:43:00.200 favor of disallowing men from being able to vote on abortion related matters

05:43:11.640 so if it's just women determining it right because i mean there this is a common thing they say well

05:43:16.440 this is a woman's issue i don't think that do you think men should be precluded from being allowed to

05:43:21.640 vote on abortion issues i mean i think that i think that like they should be able to vote on stuff but

05:43:27.320 i feel like maybe it's like i feel like they're not really a lot of them are not educated on it and

05:43:31.240 stuff okay but i i yeah i guess i guess because i think that if it's just women voting i think that

05:43:36.840 it would probably be it would be in favor of pro-choice okay so you would take away men's

05:43:42.760 right to vote on this issue i mean i think everyone should be able to vote so but but but if it guaranteed

05:43:50.520 and i think it would if you removed men's right to vote on this issue i think it would likely guarantee

05:43:57.160 women's ability to have women can determine their own like so then would you be in favor of walking

05:44:04.360 bet walking back men's right to vote on this issue i don't know i mean okay i need answers from other

05:44:10.680 people then no just get onto the mic okay simple answer no i think everybody should have the right to

05:44:18.600 vote on anything in our country okay what about you no they should be even okay i think they should

05:44:25.320 have right equal rights like both should be able to vote on all issues but so even if as somebody

05:44:32.200 who's pro-choice even if you could secure women's right to abortion forever by preventing men from

05:44:39.080 voting on this issue that's not fair like i don't think that's fair because if i do that to you guys you

05:44:43.960 guys can turn around like oh i'm gonna do that to you too and then this is like a war that never ends

05:44:48.680 so it should be equal and like equal competition i think it's dangerous as well because as a woman we

05:44:53.240 have sometimes the ick to have a child right that feeling is very strong and i think men would like

05:44:59.160 to have children as well at some point and if a woman can take away a man's passion to have a child

05:45:05.080 like we women have for like the ick to have a child i think it's very damaging to a man as well okay um

05:45:12.920 but yeah andrew's not here you did want to talk about abortion but i think you have

05:45:17.320 are you dominica did i say right yeah you uh you're pro life right so why don't you guys have a brief

05:45:25.080 conversation on this then well um i mean i have i have my position pretty much so

05:45:31.560 i definitely think that the man should have a say because without the man there's there's nothing

05:45:41.160 in there you know um they're both in it together um so i think that's just fair

05:45:47.960 well not about the whole voting thing so just going back to abortion rights in general

05:45:52.280 so you don't think you're pro-life right right so then i'm assuming you're not in favor of uh

05:45:59.080 even early on in the pregnancy you're not in favor of women being allowed to have abortions correct

05:46:03.320 correct okay yeah she says 20 20 weeks what what's your cutoff oh um viability for for having an

05:46:13.800 abortion yeah is it viability uh it's if you can deliver then you should deliver like if the baby

05:46:19.800 can survive outside the womb so viability okay so my understanding dominica uh life begins at

05:46:28.680 conception for you yeah okay so for sure go on um i i mean i i disagree with you because i mean

05:46:40.920 you're literally taking a life out of out of someone you know you're you're telling them no you cannot

05:46:46.520 live and i just think that's that's kind of sad to like just take that right from from someone from a

05:46:51.720 baby who hasn't been entirely processed yet so yeah um i would say what everyone has a different

05:47:02.280 different definition of life and so that is why it's like a pretty hard topic but um i do feel like

05:47:11.240 aside from that i feel like we have bodily autonomy so i would bring up the point of like an organ donor

05:47:19.400 would you would you do you think it's okay to give up an organ that wouldn't affect you to save

05:47:25.080 someone's life do i think say that again sorry i'm like aren't like kidneys like you can lose one

05:47:33.240 it doesn't matter like donate it right but this is a whole life it's not just yeah but just lose the

05:47:39.080 child it doesn't matter just throw it in a bin and we don't care but it's someone else's life if they

05:47:45.480 have a yeah so does one life like do you do you really have the authority to say

05:47:53.800 like i i think there's accountability like if you got pregnant you got pregnant there's birth control

05:47:59.000 and all that so yeah yeah but i think like if you don't want to have a kid you you kind of shouldn't

05:48:04.680 because you're not going to be a good parent in my opinion it could change there's a put it for

05:48:10.360 adoption yeah but if there's a difference between using your bodily autonomy to save a life and using

05:48:15.560 your bodily autonomy to end a life yeah but should you be forced to go through with something for

05:48:21.000 another person's life but if you do want to have children if you are not careful even if you don't

05:48:28.360 believe it's a life in the womb yeah it will be a life but after a period of time right now it's not

05:48:34.840 alive and if you kill it you're taking away any chance of that there are not studies that it's

05:48:40.200 not a life yet it will be okay sperm could be a life so when you yes and it's sacred and you

05:48:47.080 shouldn't do it outside of a woman if you do not want to have children use protection everybody so

05:48:53.160 everybody watching this every time a guy masturbates he kills so many babies all these

05:48:57.880 sperm could be so many so many babies potential though that is literally you guys have seen that

05:49:05.720 like i'm saying sperm is a lie you guys are so brutal really really extreme christians like don't even

05:49:11.080 believe in uh like contraception yeah contraception yeah for sure no okay but it's like the same i

05:49:18.920 don't know you can you're the right to religion for sure super far from the microphone you should

05:49:23.880 make whatever podcast condoms would be so funny as much that would be hilarious oh my god it would

05:49:29.080 be so funny as here well here's a question oh my so those of you uh those of you women who are who

05:49:35.000 are pro-choice um do you think men should be able to escape the responsibility of child support

05:49:44.760 no i mean pro-choice you're i'm both okay you're both so you're you're fine with like women getting

05:49:51.160 abortion are you fine with a woman getting an abortion because she's just not financially

05:49:55.160 ready to have a child no i think that's so stupid but we live in a world where you just kind of like

05:50:00.760 it's okay you think it's stupid but but okay so you can allow it yeah for she's not financially ready

05:50:05.480 to have a child stupid though okay very so should a man be able to escape uh financial responsibility

05:50:13.560 i mean if i'm going to stick to what i'm saying yeah i guess okay pro-choice should men not have

05:50:18.440 to pay child support if they don't want to pro-choice should men have to not be you're pro-choice i'll

05:50:24.600 just yeah i'm pro-choice i think men should always pay child support okay if there's a why

05:50:32.760 because you brought the child to the world but wait so but what if he wanted you to have so

05:50:38.760 and you didn't wait so just so i'm clear well he he didn't use protection so so you opened your legs

05:50:46.280 say that a girl not hold on let me get the answer from everybody uh pro-choice pro-choice pro-choice

05:50:53.400 should men let's say a guy hooks up the girl she gets pregnant he doesn't want the kid she does

05:51:00.440 should he have to pay child support no um no i believe that child support is different from

05:51:08.200 an like abortion rights if that's what you're it's getting to i don't know what like if there's a

05:51:14.120 connection yeah there's no there's absolutely hold on there absolutely is a connection why don't you

05:51:18.280 just answer the question oh i literally thought you were like trying to make a point about it i

05:51:22.440 didn't i'm about to make a point but you can answer the question i said i said uh yes yes men should

05:51:29.320 have to pay child support okay what about you i feel like you gotta you gotta speak into the mic okay

05:51:36.920 okay i think i know where you're going with this and i actually do believe that um i mean i don't

05:51:44.520 exactly know how we'd be able to make this work out but abortion should be somewhat of a collective

05:51:50.280 decision i am pro-choice but i think in a world where men or the baby daddy or whoever does have

05:51:56.280 somewhat of a say and whether this fetus is going to be terminated or not then yes child support should

05:52:04.440 be required do you understand what i'm saying with that um because i know you're trying to say

05:52:10.600 women have the choice to just get rid of their child if they want to whereas men don't and if they

05:52:16.360 walk away from it they're shamed and they're um they can be taken to court they are not always ashamed

05:52:22.920 i think some men can also not pay for their child i did not say that they're ashamed that they are

05:52:28.760 shamed by society for being deadbeat i'll come back to your point what do you think um i mean i think that

05:52:33.640 it's like kind of um i guess i don't know like because think like so what if the man is is he

05:52:40.280 wants her to get an abortion he's not doesn't value that but what if the woman even though like so say

05:52:44.680 like like you want you're pro uh pro-life so if you were got knocked up by a dude that was like he

05:52:51.720 wants you to have the abortion but you didn't now you're not receiving funding for that you're not

05:52:56.120 getting no child support and you have to deal with that alone so it's like you like you know what i

05:53:00.760 mean like you still have the choice but would you do it you would just suffer probably you know what

05:53:04.040 i mean you wouldn't have money so do you want to answer the question as well um you sassy but um

05:53:12.360 but yes i think they should okay because in her situation but what about the situation

05:53:19.480 well in general it would make sense that yeah obviously like if they had the choice

05:53:22.840 always be the situation that the woman kept that opted to keep the child because there could be no

05:53:27.960 child support absent a child being born so the situation would always be he didn't want the

05:53:34.360 child and she did there's no other scenario yeah that's what i'm saying like she wants because she's

05:53:40.120 like religious or are you religious that's why so like you wanted to keep it but then so you're going

05:53:44.760 to keep it but he doesn't want you to keep it and so you keep it because you're religious but then

05:53:48.840 now you don't have any funding and you're i mean you can make secular anti-abortion arguments

05:53:53.400 i think they're not all non-religious people don't want to get abortions because it makes

05:53:58.520 them feel horrible exactly and i hold on hold on hold on i gotta make my argument here so those of

05:54:05.720 you i think all of you said that uh yes men should have to pay child support no i said no well you're

05:54:12.600 you're on the fence on pro-life pro-choice but so going back to your thing so you're saying well yes

05:54:18.200 i think this is what you said you said in a world you think that both men and women

05:54:22.600 honestly like too far from the mic i don't have an answer for you a clear answer for you about that

05:54:29.720 but i'm saying in a perfect world where i don't know well we don't like i said it's more of a current

05:54:37.240 world should men pay always be required to pay child support no okay so that's your question yeah sure

05:54:47.640 um no not necessarily i say no yeah actually no if that's oh no i didn't know as always i thought it

05:54:58.760 was like i i i it can be debated but like that's the default in my opinion

05:55:04.360 like you should have the right to go to court and say i don't want to pay child but if the man

05:55:10.680 doesn't acknowledge the child he isn't and a lot of times in these cases it's like a guy that stays

05:55:15.960 with this woman and with the promise of like helping raise this child and then ends up leaving

05:55:21.400 so the woman's just gonna suffer financially yes and so it's like what the

05:55:25.640 like where did you go see open your legs right what you opened your legs so it's action reaction

05:55:31.160 right you made a choice stick up with that choice it's action reaction like consequences and i also

05:55:37.720 think if a man doesn't acknowledge the child he shouldn't be paying child support and i think a

05:55:42.200 lot of women also get pregnant in hopes of getting money out of a man as a scheme as well and i think

05:55:49.320 there should be consideration i don't think that's a lot of women oh girl it is no it is so do you

05:55:56.280 think do you think there are men out there there's there's literally an entire legal and court system

05:56:03.800 that will force and compel men to pay child support that they don't want to in the netlands you do not

05:56:10.840 have that if men were just willing to pay child support for unwanted children they would but there's

05:56:17.320 an enforcement arm of the government that forces men it's actually we've totally done away with

05:56:23.880 debtors prisons so we've we deemed it like uh unethical essentially to send people to prison

05:56:30.360 for financial debts except when it comes to uh unpaid child support as a man you can go to prison for

05:56:37.640 that in the netlands you do not have that if you are pregnant as a woman and you just say i do not

05:56:44.040 acknowledge this man as a father you will not sign him on the birth certificate he will not pay

05:56:49.240 shit and he's not entitled to the child as well hold on but in the netherlands could a woman say

05:56:55.400 that this is the father and i want him to pay child support it would be a fairy can he be legally

05:57:00.440 compelled to pay child support it would be very hard because if he isn't on the papers and everything

05:57:06.120 would be very hard port netherlands it's possible but it will be hard because he didn't put his name

05:57:13.000 on the paper the government of the netherlands the parents is obliged to pay child maintenance until

05:57:16.920 the child turns 21 if he acknowledged the child yeah is he acknowledged if he doesn't acknowledge the

05:57:22.840 child it's a different story because he isn't entitled to that child as well so she can just say

05:57:29.800 he's not the father he he will not be on the birth certificate whatsoever jivani jd donated 200

05:57:37.080 the level of understanding on this issue is zero when does the child establish value that it can't

05:57:43.160 be killed now justify why you drew the line there you can't draw a coherent line post conception

05:57:52.200 well she's saying viability so once the the baby is capable of surviving outside the womb

05:58:00.360 that's her that's her line um but uh back to this i i got it sorry giovanni i do have to move it

05:58:08.520 back to the jobs board thing so i don't know how it is in the netherlands i'm not privy to that speaking

05:58:15.640 about uh the u.s system and the system in a lot of other countries so uh yeah the man can be forced

05:58:22.520 and compelled to pay child support that's crazy even if he didn't want to he could here's a scenario

05:58:26.840 a guy could have a one-night stand with a girl with the she could say i'm on birth control boom

05:58:31.560 boom boom i don't want to have a kid she lied about it whatever and then she gets pregnant he

05:58:36.600 just wanted to have fun one night stand he could be on the hook for 18 years of uh child support so

05:58:42.360 if i get pregnant on purpose by some billionaire for example just because i want to have like the

05:58:47.160 money and i know he's rich i can do that and sue him in america for child support you can yeah you can

05:58:52.120 try to get that's dangerous it's dangerous to be a man you see my point it's dangerous to be a man

05:58:57.160 out there it's dangerous but so um i guess going back to this so you you guys kind of flip-flopped

05:59:05.000 on your answer here a little bit because i was asking do you think men should be like required to

05:59:09.720 pay child support and you guys said yes you said yes yes yes yes so so i didn't understand the

05:59:18.280 question i thought you were at i thought you were asking generally should we default to men

05:59:23.320 like not every single man has to pay child support of course they're like it should be debatable in

05:59:29.240 court but it's not i disagree with that well hold on okay so the current state of affairs in this

05:59:37.560 country in every single state in this country if a man has a child with a woman wanted or unwanted

05:59:45.960 doesn't matter any single woman can go to the court go to uh i depends on the state child services

05:59:54.040 whatever it is and she can go after him for child support the man in no instance can say go to the

06:00:02.520 court and his defense can never be i don't want to pay child support the court will be like

06:00:08.920 you're gonna pay child support so you disagree like what do you mean you just like that is the

06:00:16.840 law so i don't know what debate we're supposed to have you asked me if i believe in that that is that

06:00:23.720 that should be and i'm saying if i made the rules that would not be the case so but so you're saying

06:00:30.520 in some cases the man should not yeah so in some cases if the man is like super broke and can't support

06:00:37.160 himself there's no let's say he's wealthy he just yeah but i'm saying there are cases where

06:00:42.200 you don't have to pay child support no you okay well i mean if the man's making no money actually

06:00:48.600 well that's not even true if the man is no making is not making any money and the woman presses it

06:00:53.880 enough brings it to court the court is going to still um the court is still going to attempt

06:01:00.520 to start charging him child support he might not be able to pay it but he's gonna owe it and if he

06:01:05.880 doesn't start paying it he's going to end up with uh in california they cancel your license there's

06:01:11.480 going to be interest yeah you'll get your license canceled and eventually you'll probably end up in

06:01:15.400 prison or jail her answer is no basically i disagree that that i think that's wrong yeah what do you

06:01:21.960 mean i'm you think i'm wrong about the law i don't think you're wrong i think the law is i wouldn't do

06:01:29.320 the law if i was like a lawmaker like okay so you so you're fine for example then with men just not

06:01:36.360 paying child support i think it should default to men paying child support i think as a man you have

06:01:42.040 a right to go to court you should have the right to go to court and say i should not pay child support

06:01:47.640 for this reason you should be able to escape that so then bringing it back to abortion does a woman need

06:01:55.240 to go to court and give her reasons for why she wants an abortion or can she get an abortion for

06:02:01.800 any fucking reason without any judicial oversight um i think that it's actually that's probably the

06:02:09.240 best case scenario is that you are actually looking at the situations i don't because i don't think you

06:02:16.120 should get an abortion for no reason but can a woman get an abortion for any reason um like do i

06:02:26.040 believe that that should be a right no i'm just asking you what is oh well i think there are states

06:02:32.920 that that's that that's legal yeah abortion right abortion rights have been limited in some states but

06:02:39.800 many states women can get abortions for any reason they don't need justification i would also

06:02:45.720 say that in abortion like the reason to get an abortion there can't be no reason so like

06:02:52.520 the i would say there's like a better reason and a worse reason i would say that

06:02:57.800 like a a worse reason is is like you can support the child and you like

06:03:08.360 like like like like if you can support the child and you want a kid like eventually

06:03:19.000 and it's just not the right time i think not the right time is kind of like

06:03:23.640 not as good of a reason as if you were like you know essayed there's like a variety of

06:03:30.040 reasons you could get i would argue most women getting abortions is just because they were

06:03:36.840 irresponsible why would you argue that the men are irresponsible they are sure

06:03:43.240 men were irresponsible too but you opened your legs so yeah most most abortions are just for like

06:03:49.400 convenience it's not still like so what i think i want it i wouldn't say it's used as like birth

06:03:55.240 control like i know that's an argument but like i would say like so what even if they were

06:04:00.440 irresponsible i think they should be allowed to do that it's our body like you are you a woman you

06:04:06.440 know what it's like to be a woman you have a uterus you have periods you know nothing about being a

06:04:10.520 woman you're like oh get rid of your baby don't get out of your baby like what who are you to make

06:04:15.800 that decision there should be no government if i want to i should be able to if i'm depressed

06:04:20.760 because i'm depressed i'm just sad i don't want to have baby this in nine months i should be able

06:04:25.560 to no what do you mean you are entitled to your opinion but i'm entitled to mine that's just my

06:04:31.000 opinion wait so i mean no uterus no opinion is that your argument no opinion about women's uterus

06:04:38.760 okay well it seems to assume that men are incapable of having understanding but i mean the entire

06:04:45.960 premise it's basically all the woman's organs yes what about if you're getting an abortion

06:04:51.320 and you know the gender of the baby and it's a woman what does that have to do with anything because

06:04:57.400 you're talking about women's rights but what about that woman's right to survive that's inside i don't

06:05:01.720 see as a woman when i don't consider a life a nine month whatever month i don't know the science

06:05:07.000 is alive and i don't think i killed anybody okay so i mean the whole like no uterus no opinion i mean

06:05:14.280 it's your it's a logical fallacy

06:05:20.920 so okay neither males nor females have a monopoly on what is right or wrong true or false while the

06:05:28.040 ramifications of the debate might have more of immediate effect on a pregnant woman's body

06:05:36.360 i don't think that alone that alone does not disqualify men from forming well-reasoned beliefs

06:05:42.520 on the topic but they don't really have beliefs that's why you can vote it doesn't mean you can

06:05:48.600 ban our rights about our body our organs do you know any law that bans anything related to your

06:05:55.160 organs male's organs absolutely like what absolutely there is there any ban there are so give me give me

06:06:01.000 one ban federally federally so i'll give you something that is is legal so something that's

06:06:07.000 legal so uh circumcision no i'm saying something that's not legal or not yes female genital mutilation

06:06:13.400 is illegal male gen genital mutilation is widely practiced among 99 of the males

06:06:21.960 born in this country two hundred dollars i should be able to murder because i'm depressed what a

06:06:27.320 fucking ghoul if men can't have a position on abortion then you can have no opinion on war since you

06:06:33.160 don't register this leads me to my next bodily autonomy argument giovanni thank you so yeah men

06:06:40.600 have forced military conscription in this country okay so that's something the government actually this is

06:06:46.600 this is a bigger infringement on bodily autonomy by the government because nobody is forcing women

06:06:53.000 to have sex huh nobody is forcing women to have sex i don't know about nobody and stuff like that

06:06:59.480 okay fine i'll just literally all the calls all the organization all the corruption jesus open your eyes

06:07:05.800 and read the news okay 90 probably 95 percent stop okay sorry 95 percent of abortions probably result

06:07:14.280 from consensual sex i'll just grant you that some abortions are due to incest and essay i'll just

06:07:20.680 grant it the vast majority of abortions arise out of consensual sex do you agree or disagree

06:07:28.040 i don't know the stats but i think majority is yeah i agree consensual sex okay so it's not wrong for

06:07:32.520 me to state that so the government is not compelling anybody to go and have consensual sex you're not

06:07:38.760 compelled yeah and most abortions are a result from consensual sex yeah however the government has

06:07:46.360 a direct and clear path to forced military conscription which is has to do with male only bodily autonomy

06:07:53.720 because only men in this country are forced to register for the selective service and the event of

06:07:58.440 uh uh in the event of a draft only men can be drafted um going to a war is to help the society right

06:08:07.240 you guys are fighting war so you're helping america to be america really the woman when you're doing

06:08:12.120 abortion is literally harming our body so it's literally not the same thing sending a man off

06:08:17.240 to war to get himself killed is not you want to go to harming his body you can go to war if you want

06:08:22.280 to go to war if you want to go to war that's okay women are men are forced to go to war because that's

06:08:27.560 different there are different concepts going to war and it's way worse than abortion yeah it's way

06:08:33.960 worse than abortion it's different but it's a bodily autonomy issue several hundred thousand

06:08:39.000 young men in ukraine are like at all blown to pieces i did i did a minute against their yeah

06:08:45.240 against their will i don't know just say so a woman not being allowed to get an abortion

06:08:50.680 is worse than war say it wait let me think about this you just wait i don't think that is okay say

06:08:57.960 i'm not gonna say that you're gonna make a sound bite like that's literally your position say it

06:09:03.080 no i'm not saying that i'm saying two different situations there's no comparison between the two

06:09:08.840 why am i saying you're the one making the comparison i'm saying you're like right name

06:09:12.920 a way that men don't have bodily autonomy i literally know bodily like body like in your

06:09:17.880 organs yes my body you know what they shoot your organs it's different you're not going to a hospital

06:09:25.800 to get something taken out right i mean if you get something during the war yeah shot off it's great

06:09:32.120 in my opinion it's different i would love to hear your opinion on transgenders though you know

06:09:36.920 what forced military conscription is way worse than women's lack of abortion access in some states

06:09:45.000 100 agree with you way worse i think men should go to war women should have abortion that's my opinion

06:09:50.440 why is it if you are a woman you can

06:09:55.960 how about how about men are not forced and women are not exactly that's what i'm going to say yeah

06:10:01.000 that's okay why is it as a woman we can always say oh no i'm a woman it will hurt my feelings i

06:10:06.440 cannot do that and a man be like fuck i have to do this we want as a woman we want a strong man

06:10:11.560 who's manly but if he gives us a compliment his sexual assault if he helps makes choices

06:10:16.200 is horrible it's a horrible organizing over generalizing can i speak thank you you're great

06:10:22.600 thank you you're amazing good girl either way why is it always like

06:10:28.680 that you know what i mean yeah great can i say something if you're pro-choice why aren't you letting

06:10:33.240 your baby be pro-choice to grow and like i said i don't consider it a baby i consider it like

06:10:39.080 not a life before a fetus yeah if you're taking a choice if you cannot take it out you're taking

06:10:45.240 out their natural choice to live though so like i said like you guys are also you men are also

06:10:50.840 taking a natural choice of so many sperm to live when you masturbate it's like what at what point

06:10:55.400 do you draw the line you can you can draw any line arbitrarily you know you can draw your line

06:11:00.440 i draw my line what's wrong with that let me ask you a question what do you think was worse let's

06:11:04.520 say and it's not let's say abortion was just a hundred percent ban in this country what do you

06:11:12.120 think is worse a ban on abortion or the current state of affairs when it comes to forced military

06:11:17.640 conscription and men like i said everything exists in a context no just tell me it's worse tell me it's

06:11:23.560 worse why why are you forcing me to tell you something i don't believe in that's what you

06:11:27.080 literally were arguing do not scream at each other i'm saying i'm saying these two are different so

06:11:31.400 you're not answering my like there's not a single organ we are we're like forcing you to take out

06:11:36.680 oh if you get dropped into the military they shoot your organs it's like law order you got to you

06:11:42.040 do not have a choice they shoot you what do you think they're shooting your hair extensions yeah

06:11:47.880 calm down yeah don't how about just don't force the men like then you can like yeah it goes the other

06:11:55.000 way around as well i know not wants to but i still think we would die as a country though yeah i know

06:11:59.720 and that sucks and that's why they make them how about that should women be drafted um i mean if

06:12:05.400 they're like able to like fight i guess like i mean like listen like i'm like i'm a little girl

06:12:11.000 like i can i work out but i don't really think i could do that many push-ups and do the same do as

06:12:14.920 good as a man probably or the average man but sure but you want to be quick the same estimate you want

06:12:21.960 the same rights but when the war breaks out you want to stand in the kitchen um no i'm saying until war

06:12:27.080 comes yeah you want to be in the kitchen like oh no i'm tiny don't you think i think all female

06:12:32.520 units would be an interesting thing because you you talk about wartime right and a 200 pound man and

06:12:39.000 a 100 pound girl deployed is she going to be able to drag him who cares all female women be able to

06:12:44.680 volunteer for the military and get the same exact fucking pay as their male counterparts who are

06:12:50.840 putting in more physical work in the net women get paid the same amount of money donated 200

06:12:57.480 brian if you can you should have your assistant pull up the bill burke cake batter comparison to

06:13:03.240 abortion it's on youtube uh the i don't know if it's a if it's a net netflix will like copyright

06:13:09.080 anything because it's probably a netflix stand-up so we can't do it but big sass energy i really

06:13:13.400 appreciate that man uh but all of you are probably fine with women volunteering for the no for the

06:13:19.320 military women should be bought okay women should be in the netherlands if you are 16 volunteering

06:13:25.160 i mean if you want to i mean if you want to say like that um you're you're saying like women should

06:13:30.360 be like have to sign up for the draft and stuff no no so okay so currently women can volunteer

06:13:36.200 to be part of the military can't anyone volunteer well yeah men and women can volunteer only men can be

06:13:41.320 forced well then the draft then if that you know if if women are allowed to get abortions and you

06:13:45.080 force the women to also sign up then sure in the netherlands when you're 16 years old men and women

06:13:51.160 you get a letter at home that you have to go to war if the war breaks out men and women there's no

06:13:57.800 choice you want to be equal as a woman better you fight as a man then shut up you cannot stand in

06:14:03.880 the kitchen and be stupid you know you fight if they want to stop complaining about the abortion stuff

06:14:08.680 and you just gotta sign up for the draft sure i think women should be allowed to have abortions

06:14:12.600 though okay um but i'm just a little confused because you said well i wouldn't like oh aren't

06:14:21.480 men stronger and like yeah i mean don't they disqualify people for like certain things like

06:14:25.880 if you're like no they allow women to volunteer they lower the standards for them so i guess they

06:14:30.920 lower the standards yeah they actually have smaller lower fitness but they get paid the exact same

06:14:35.640 i guess if they get i'm well that's not my fault i'm not six feet tall unfair i mean it sucks that

06:14:41.880 i'm not a six foot tall buff like muscle mommy but like maybe i can't change that it's just

06:14:47.640 interesting women should be allowed to volunteer for the military and they should be paid just the

06:14:52.440 same as men but also men make for better soldiers but they shouldn't be paid the same and also i don't

06:14:58.280 think i should be drafted if they're being forced be in the draft either then what's that weaker men

06:15:03.640 shouldn't be paid as much either and what makes a man weaker like well we're saying that about

06:15:08.280 women like right now like labor uh but he's still a man like a little bit you can like force me to

06:15:14.280 sign up but they have the advantage of just being a man yes like you can force me to sign up if you

06:15:19.080 want but like it's not my fault i'm not a six foot tall buff mommy i just think last thing on the

06:15:25.800 whole like child support thing bringing it back a little bit here i just think it's crazy that

06:15:30.440 the same arguments like for example let's say let me frame it like this for those of you said

06:15:36.520 mentioned uh paid child support whatever uh a guy comes to you and he's like uh yeah i um

06:15:44.920 don't want to pay child support didn't want to have a kid um what would you but hey with the current

06:15:50.520 state of affairs so you could say well it should be this way but the current state of affairs is if a guy

06:15:55.240 hooks up the girl she has a kid she decides to keep the kid she can she can and most often will

06:16:01.720 force him to pay child support through the court system so we can talk about what should be what you

06:16:07.240 know future down the road but that's how it is right now so if a guy were to come to you and like your

06:16:12.440 brother your male friend and he's like man i hate paying these child supports i hate paying this child

06:16:17.560 support it really sucks what would you say to him i would tough shouldn't have done that no i have no

06:16:25.960 reason to like i don't like think that men i'm not like yeah you better pay buddy like i think

06:16:36.040 i mean i would comfort like my brother if he's like upset about something so yeah but i mean you can't

06:16:46.040 really offer him anything aside from just what like oh you shouldn't have done that like offer

06:16:53.080 advice what to do so there's nothing he can do about it yeah he can't escape his responsibility

06:16:59.800 so you would you really the only thing you can say is you shouldn't have done that well if i were to

06:17:06.680 give advice i mean yeah but like there's kind of no point in saying that it's already done

06:17:11.720 right but it's interesting the same arguments if a woman was like wanting to get an abortion and we

06:17:18.520 said yeah well tough you shouldn't have done that you're gonna have to deal with the ramifications

06:17:23.720 women can always escape in most states in this country women can just you know look you can go

06:17:28.840 to a different state get abortion different state women can always escape their responsibility when it

06:17:33.720 comes to this topic men can never escape their responsibility i disagree that's equivalent

06:17:41.720 that's a fact though that's a fact no i don't think that paying child support is like the same

06:17:50.200 is not it's not my body my choice yeah because it's literally carrying a baby no my body my

06:17:56.680 choice but so what about these men who are going to have for 18 years a lower standard of life let's

06:18:03.800 say they have to physically labor most men are a lot of men are in construction work what if a man in an

06:18:10.440 effort to uh not have his life financially fucked works an extra 10 hours a week and then it just

06:18:16.840 further breaks down his body over the 20 years that he's doing some construction job i that's his body

06:18:23.480 i said before i don't i wouldn't you just don't value i wouldn't oh my god i wouldn't make that

06:18:29.320 rule that's not my but that's how it is so we're okay i disagree with it if you take away child support

06:18:35.400 there's no there's no ramifications

06:18:41.240 i don't hold that value so you can't make the the you can't like say that because the law exists that

06:18:47.160 that that's my logic it's not my logic that's the thing i'm just saying then this you're like

06:18:52.680 downplaying downplaying the serious impact that it could have on a man's life you don't think

06:18:59.000 there's an impact it could have on a man's life because you're saying well it's uh the woman has to

06:19:04.280 you know carry the child for nine months well i'm not saying that about child support i'm saying that

06:19:10.440 about abortion i think what you are saying is like if a woman cannot pay for it she can abort the child

06:19:16.680 because he will be in a horrible situation she cannot pay for it it will be horrible horrible for the

06:19:22.040 child but if the man cannot pay for it it's the same thing yeah so you want to be equal but only

06:19:27.800 for a woman again that's kind of no i agree with you that men shouldn't have to pay child support if

06:19:33.640 they can't afford it but can he then make the decision for her to lose the child because nobody

06:19:39.800 can pay for it then uh so are you really pro-life if nobody can pay for the child you're am i

06:19:48.600 really i don't understand if the man cannot pay for the child the woman cannot pay for the child

06:19:55.880 would you keep the child then because you're pro-life well if no one wants to abort the child

06:20:01.400 like how about this let me ask you a question i think this will make things a little easier

06:20:05.720 a really rich woman gets pregnant and her only objection is she just doesn't want to have the kid

06:20:12.920 can she get an abortion i personally think that that's not a good reason but i oh because

06:20:23.560 i wouldn't i wouldn't do it myself just because i don't want to like i personally no she she doesn't

06:20:29.560 feel like she's ready she she's financially fine she just has a general feeling like she doesn't want to

06:20:36.520 have the kid yeah i think that the result of that would be the i mean would you bar women who have

06:20:44.680 that view from getting abortions uh no i i would i think you should have the right to do that um

06:20:52.680 okay so then a rich man who can afford to support pay child support but he just doesn't want to

06:21:01.160 should he be able to escape his duty and responsibility of having to pay child support

06:21:10.280 if he has a genuine reason like the woman he just doesn't want to then he can nope nope if he wants

06:21:16.040 to go to court and debate it then that's fine i think what do you mean if he okay but so

06:21:24.920 you're saying if he wants to go to court and debate it what should the court do the court should just

06:21:30.680 make a just decision and say you have to pay child support or not so what should the court do in

06:21:37.400 that situation should the literally an imaginary court you introduced i'm saying i disagree that

06:21:45.000 men should have to pay child support so what should the court do i think you're saying how would they

06:21:52.120 evaluate whether a man should or no no no hold on let's rewind let's rewind you said

06:21:57.480 a scenario in which it would be okay for a guy to escape his responsibility of having to pay child

06:22:04.200 support would be if he doesn't have money that would be one example yeah right okay but then i said well

06:22:11.880 okay let's talk about if it's a rich woman you said that's not justification that a rich woman who just

06:22:19.640 doesn't want to have a kid that's not justification for her being allowed to have an abortion now we're

06:22:24.760 giving the counter example of a rich man he can he can pay child support he just doesn't think it's

06:22:31.480 fair and he doesn't want to i think he should have the right to go to a courthouse and like what should

06:22:40.440 the i think he has the right to like sue and say i don't want to pay child support no but that's not how

06:22:46.440 it works the woman okay here's how it would work the woman wants child support from him she goes to

06:22:52.760 the court and says i want child support are you following here can i say something hold on let me

06:23:02.040 try to oh my god please uh so men don't like proactively go to a court and say i don't want

06:23:12.120 that never happens yeah because it's the law like you said i'm saying if i made the law because i

06:23:18.360 fundamentally disagree that so what would be the law okay the law that would determine like if you

06:23:26.600 should or should not pay child yes what would be the circumstances is if it is not feasible for the

06:23:33.320 man to pay it if it's like if the woman can if the woman doesn't need it basically or if the man can't

06:23:40.760 pay it then you shouldn't go into let's let's let's assume that the woman does need it okay let's

06:23:47.080 assume the woman needs it and the man is rich but he just doesn't want he had a one night stand with

06:23:54.200 her he had no intention of having a kid she decided to keep the baby he has the uh i don't think i think

06:24:01.560 but she there's now a kid that exists that conceivably it takes money to take care of a kid she

06:24:09.080 doesn't have the money so what's your question you know next subject because this will hold on i

06:24:16.200 feel like we're almost there i feel like we're almost there we're almost there i believe you're

06:24:21.080 not i think she is uh hold on hold on hold on hold on so should what would be you're the judge you

06:24:28.760 passed the law should the man have to pay child support um if he's rich it should doesn't want to

06:24:36.760 as i've like said many times it should default to you pay child support otherwise if you don't want

06:24:44.120 to pay child support i believe that you should legally be able to as a man like sue the woman and

06:24:53.000 and make your case that you don't you shouldn't have to pay child support i think it should be

06:24:57.800 like in that in that system they would discriminate against poor people only rich men would be able to

06:25:04.120 i think what she's saying that a man should also have a choice you guys like you're making a

06:25:09.880 counterpoint paying no i i think what we're getting at here is that in a world where women have the right

06:25:17.960 to an abortion for any reason men should have a corresponding right to have a uh legal paternal

06:25:25.880 surrender where they don't have to pay child support okay i i will i will actually say um that i i don't

06:25:35.160 really like i don't really feel like men i don't genuinely feel like men should have to like pay child

06:25:44.360 support i don't have strong feelings about that so so i'm gonna say if that's what it takes for like

06:25:51.240 abortion rights to be um legal like more like and have a even playing field i i'm fine like i will

06:26:01.240 agree that you that men don't have to pay child support can i say something okay so you will acknowledge

06:26:08.920 though that there are that women are able to get abortions but in every single state in this country

06:26:15.800 men are forced to pay child support do you do you think that that's wrong um the law as it currently

06:26:22.360 is not what should be yeah what is you think it's wrong that men should pay child support yes and have

06:26:27.880 no escape from it yeah i think that's wrong okay all right what's like crazy about okay should we like

06:26:33.960 go to her for a second i'm okay with us moving from the topic i'm oh i'm ready to move we do have

06:26:39.400 one other note man we have i should move okay you're a comedian right get get we ain't nothing

06:26:45.320 funny about this sweetheart do we get no no do we get like free tickets to your next show because you're

06:26:50.600 probably gonna talk about this oh no do we get free tickets no i don't want to talk about this

06:26:55.480 um so you said uh what you said this was a disagreement women's rights being made up that was

06:27:02.920 something that i saw andrew speak on so i don't oh no okay do you think he is he referencing the

06:27:10.520 idea that women's rights are fake because they're only given by men yes because of the physical thing

06:27:16.120 yeah yeah because in in in the world you know the strongest people make all the rules and so if the

06:27:22.440 strong people make the rules that women have rights and then they enforce them legally through

06:27:26.440 violence then the only reason women have rights is because men use violence to make sure women have

06:27:31.080 rights yeah so i hear that and but no yeah and i disagree i what i what i disagree on is um women

06:27:42.040 make every human being so when you eternally owe you need sperm for that right i mean i i i can't you

06:27:51.720 can't like we do not make sure you need sperm for that right you know that you're saying you need a man

06:27:56.520 because men can physically dominate women but women don't naturally have rights men also dominate

06:28:02.360 each other we don't naturally have a lot of women are dominatrix as well right we like well so i think

06:28:08.440 that most men have love for their mothers but i don't think that actually addresses the argument if

06:28:13.720 like for example let's say a group of men decided that tomorrow and this played out recently in afghanistan

06:28:23.560 essentially uh they decide tomorrow we don't believe we don't like feminism we don't believe

06:28:29.080 that women should have rights what would actually stop them from doing that um like nothing would stop

06:28:36.520 them from doing it so you agree with andrew then i don't agree that women's rights are made up well

06:28:43.960 they're not he doesn't even believe in rights because if they can be taken away from you are they

06:28:50.360 actually rights he's much better at arguing this than i am though i'm just kind of playing out the

06:28:56.200 idea the idea isn't that like it's some smarmy like oh women wouldn't have anything if it wasn't for

06:29:02.360 men because our society is a collaboration and women are in in inseparable part of that like you're so

06:29:08.840 important literally what what's the point of life if there are no women for me i don't know but like the

06:29:14.680 idea is that you have rights in a western society because western men with rifles make sure you do

06:29:22.280 if we go to saudi arabia and we want women to have rights who do we ask to give those rights to women

06:29:27.480 thank you mens yeah you have to ask the men to give them the rights if we go to afghanistan we say

06:29:32.440 taliban please can women start going to school who are the people that are going to make sure women

06:29:37.480 get to go to school um the government which is mostly made up of men there you go and governments

06:29:43.640 only exist because rough men with rifles decide they do um women can there can be you know women

06:29:50.200 led societies it's possible it's not what it is i would love to i mean women can lead societies but

06:29:57.240 even the women who are the most powerful are incredibly rough and warlike like margaret thatcher

06:30:03.400 one of the most famous female politicians of all time she what was the prime minister of england

06:30:07.800 didn't she attack a south american country argentina that's right like full on like so anyway all of

06:30:15.800 our rights mine too i only get my rights because someone with a rifle told someone else i will kill

06:30:22.200 you if you don't let this guy drive a car and that's my point when it comes to the point we need a man to

06:30:27.560 protect us right you guys are saying the lies because the the like in china the only woman empire

06:30:33.560 that was the most prosperous dynasty among like many dynasties so it's like but wait wait wait but

06:30:40.600 but who enforced her laws and rules she did yeah and who executed her so her queen's guard was a

06:30:50.200 bunch of women or was it men protecting her well men are doing some hard labor sure they're but the

06:30:56.120 men got out on the street forcing her laws right if people do not obeying her laws who fixed that for

06:31:02.520 yeah i think men fixed it for her they're the little soldiers yeah they're like the men fixed it for

06:31:09.560 her but she only has the power because the men back her that's because at that dynasty you have to

06:31:16.680 but that's the same way you still need men you still need men dynasty okay but it doesn't matter like

06:31:24.280 that's world history that's like you try to make so many three that the man did that for her okay

06:31:31.800 she probably had to she would always have to appeal to men to enforce men are the enforcement arm of

06:31:41.320 society and government that's only because men were enforcing at the beginning men are

06:31:47.320 or mine are still the enforcement arm of society it's about power it's about physical strength

06:31:53.640 that's how it works okay hold on quick question going around hold on going around the table who's

06:31:57.720 physically stronger men or women i think on average men yeah men men obviously nothing to do with

06:32:03.960 anything i don't think anybody disagrees with that i know what's a single person sitting at this table

06:32:08.360 i think no but so look you you brought up the the disagreement you said women's rights being made

06:32:15.960 up so i think andrea actually says that all rights are made up yeah i mean he's he's right he it's just

06:32:24.120 like i don't even know like if if he's not like making a jab at like specifically women's rights and

06:32:33.480 women like thinking they should have rights like if it's not that i don't i have no idea what it's

06:32:39.400 absolutely not a jab at women it just seems like it is because it's an icky thing to think about the

06:32:45.560 idea is that if women want rights and women resent men but women only have rights because of men so

06:32:52.200 your fallacy when you're like ah i hate men it's like well you only get to hate men because we let you

06:32:57.400 and it's not like a we thing i obviously don't enforce any of this and most men aren't thinking

06:33:01.640 about it in those ways but the people who enforce the laws use violence and violence is the tool of

06:33:08.600 of the government and men and use it it's the same with the war right the men should go to war

06:33:12.920 because they are men yeah but we want to have rights and who executes the right men so we should be

06:33:18.360 tanking on our knees thank you man thank you oh i don't know about that

06:33:25.960 so next thing you said men's body count and women's body count uh don't have different value

06:33:31.000 otherwise that's a double standard yeah do you want to elaborate a little more so um

06:33:39.880 so i think if a man has a body count of 50 it's not morally better than if a woman has a body count

06:33:50.600 of 50 uh it's not morally better so you're saying society doesn't judge a man the same way that they

06:34:01.960 would a woman uh no i'm saying like i don't know if like you actually disagree with this i but in

06:34:09.800 terms of morality i would say yes it's equally immoral yeah yeah that's what i would say it's immoral but the

06:34:15.640 the consequences of a man sleeping with a lot of women is different from a woman sleeping with a

06:34:20.520 lot of men because if she prefers men and wants to date them then men on average have certain

06:34:26.440 preferences on how they would like their women to have behaved in the past so they can make educated

06:34:32.200 decisions on if they want to be with them or not it's that like what's that thing people everyone says

06:34:37.560 is sexist if you're gonna hire someone for a job do you want someone who's had 200 jobs for one

06:34:42.440 month each or a person who had two jobs for five years each right i will look at their talent and

06:34:48.520 how they answer questions their previous work experience well so i would i would look at their

06:34:54.920 actual talent and how they answer the interview question instead of look at how many jobs they

06:34:59.320 had in the past like are you interviewing a woman fucks 500 men she has a better talent at making

06:35:05.320 children oh i'm not talking about that like it's not related i don't know what just happened i think

06:35:12.200 it's a question of loyalty right i i don't really think that this conversation really has so much to

06:35:17.960 do about morals really i think it has to do with kind of more the dating dynamics here yeah so i think

06:35:24.920 maybe more so what you're getting at is well men are it's impressive if a man sleeps with a lot of women

06:35:31.560 but women are shamed if they sleep with a lot of men is that kind of your angle here well i think

06:35:37.400 that's true yeah i mean maybe but that's because if you prefer men men on average prefer women who

06:35:46.600 have not behaved in that way because that's just a preference most men have the same way women have

06:35:51.560 a preference for taller men yeah it's like an innate thing that just is like uh something you're attracted

06:35:57.960 to or a red flag you naturally look out for yeah i actually don't like have like i actually don't

06:36:04.840 believe that your body count like it's good to have like a body count of like a hundred i just think that

06:36:13.960 like men and women should be equally judged like i don't think it's different between men and women

06:36:21.080 i disagree with you there okay uh i kind of disagree well i mean look i don't think promiscuity

06:36:27.160 in men is a good thing but it's definitely different and it's actually women's own the way women will

06:36:35.800 select men is way different here so like it's not clear to me for example if like a really successful

06:36:46.440 guy if a girl knows like high status could be a celebrity athlete rapper whatever a girl will

06:36:54.200 even know that he's a fucking slut and still want him but if a guy knows that the chick's a slut

06:37:03.080 it's gonna men are more likely to have a disgust response by that yeah i think men have a different like

06:37:11.480 kind of bought like maybe biological even like response to yeah yes i agree i also think i agree

06:37:19.000 that if you're if i think most women do excuse a high body count most of you simply don't care and

06:37:25.880 so it's incredibly frustrating when you give men grace and you're like well i like you anyway and he's

06:37:31.240 like oh well this really bothers me but it's not a conscious decision very few men are like i'm going to

06:37:37.320 choose specifically to dislike women who have been with lots of men because how many well maybe yeah

06:37:42.920 i don't it's just an innate thing in me where i feel i feel grossed out by it and i can't really

06:37:48.600 explain it i don't know and maybe it's it's bad and i should whatever it doesn't i listen a woman who

06:37:55.160 has a high body count can be an excellent partner it could not affect her her worth in in the totality of

06:38:02.520 her life uh people can change uh people can be redeemed i believe this wholeheartedly but also

06:38:08.840 if you're a man and you can be with a woman who hasn't been with 50 people or slept with some of

06:38:13.800 your friends or you can be with someone who's been only been with a couple people of course you're

06:38:18.600 going to choose the other person sure i have no objection to like men having those preferences i just

06:38:25.320 think like if you're going to talk about it morally that's when i think it should be talking like

06:38:31.640 i would agree with you but i don't think most people are talking about it morally because most

06:38:34.920 people are totally okay with hookup culture so i would talk about it morally because i'm religious

06:38:40.680 but i don't think brian would talk about it morally i think brian's worried about the specific things

06:38:46.920 that are innate in a woman who would sleep with lots of people or the character traits or maybe you

06:38:52.440 know it's embarrassing it's humiliating it's scary because she might have problems she might cheat on you

06:38:58.920 you know there's a bunch of reasons you wouldn't want to she might sleep with people you know now

06:39:03.640 you have to see them all the time you don't want to have a baby with someone like it's hard you know

06:39:08.520 as a guy that's a frustration i think it's a little bit of an insecurity thing i'm not gonna lie i think

06:39:15.480 that personally i like men that have a high body count i do not they're experienced i do not care and

06:39:21.720 honestly i like i like that and so to me a lot of the time i feel like men when they say like i think

06:39:27.560 it's because they are fear that oh this girl's been with maybe she's been with one guy okay so i'm

06:39:33.080 more likely to be the best she's had she's not experienced she knows she does not know anything

06:39:37.640 different so if like they could be subpar and seem like the best thing ever because they are the best

06:39:43.640 thing they've experienced and i think a lot of the time men sometimes that have they don't like

06:39:48.040 the one with the high body counts because they feel inadequate do you i mean yeah sure do you if

06:39:54.040 someone if something someone did made you feel inadequate naturally then you wouldn't want to be

06:39:59.560 with them yes but i think that many to work on their own insecurities because or women should just

06:40:04.200 not be sluts i listen i'm i do i do content creation and i'm very objectifying terms i'm a very

06:40:11.800 loyal person that has a negative connotation yeah it's it's a bad thing to fuck a hundred men i'm a

06:40:18.440 ride or die girl oh is that i'm sorry that's offensive you cannot say that i can't no you go

06:40:25.400 girl you go fuck a hundred no no i'm not i was kidding actually yes you do you literally do listen

06:40:31.880 you can call me i encourage people to date but i don't encourage people to have sex very quickly

06:40:38.760 that's my proposal that's from my experience like i said i have negative experience going into things

06:40:44.520 too fast so i'm always advocating women less physical sex wouldn't it be more just grabbing

06:40:50.520 dick yeah like more like other physical stuff right yeah just measuring his dick yes with his

06:40:56.680 pants on that's normal you don't fuck the guy but you get a hundred men djs that's still promiscuity

06:41:01.560 you have to be like a hundred men you should just let women explore to the extent they want

06:41:06.360 no yeah when women say when women say explore and find themselves and go on journeys and adventures

06:41:12.760 yeah it trend literally translates to get run through by a bunch of dudes why do you say that

06:41:18.040 that's literally what that means when i go do things all the things you listed has nothing to do with

06:41:23.640 men all the activity i do 90 of them you literally said explore in the dating context yeah exactly

06:41:31.400 yeah i don't cool go fucking to fucking paraguay don't give a fuck and i didn't say like it has

06:41:36.360 to be blowjob you can like i have so many times i dated men for like three months i didn't have

06:41:40.840 anything with them we had kids that made out like so what and you grab that just because that's not

06:41:45.480 your reality what was your i think it's so hilarious it's okay total code so okay it's insecure if a man

06:41:54.440 doesn't want to date a girl with a high body count uh yes i mean i think that like it makes them feel

06:41:59.640 less special because it's like she's been with more people what's wrong with that yeah what is

06:42:04.120 actually wrong i mean it's like it's that's in the past though you know what i mean like if they're

06:42:08.520 just with you and they're committing to you then that's all that should matter i just don't understand

06:42:12.920 so then you're not the person i'm so sorry to cut you off i didn't mean to do that that's rude but

06:42:17.160 if you if you're saying that you're changed then not changed i like i'm the thing is i'm not

06:42:23.160 interested in that i i mean maybe if i'm committing to somebody that does also does content then like

06:42:27.560 it's different for me because i could also still do that but um if i'm dating somebody that is like

06:42:33.240 a normal person and i'm um stopping it's like i'm not a cheater like just because i have a lot of

06:42:38.440 partners does not mean i'm a cheater and i'm a very loyal person i'm a ride or die girl they've

06:42:43.080 literally done studies like okay well that does not apply to me and it does not apply to everyone

06:42:48.200 well but it might not apply to everyone but it's still a factor that factors in well i think the

06:42:53.880 reason like i said it makes them feel a lot special there is i think that's a little bit

06:42:57.240 like you need to look inside yourself uh also like i mean there's a whole bunch of negative

06:43:01.800 ramifications there there's the increased risk of stds there's i get tested every two weeks

06:43:07.000 maybe yeah that's good they don't test for herpes in the porn industry yeah but like most people have

06:43:12.040 it no most people don't well well most people in the porn industry do have okay that's really

06:43:16.760 there's a lot of there's uh there's two types of herpes there's like genital herpes and

06:43:21.960 then there's the one the cold sores on your lips those are different yes yeah most people i don't

06:43:27.240 want to have genital herpes sorry but if you are in the porn industry just like me so i can talk about

06:43:32.440 it and you're very loyal and giovanni jade you donated 200 exclusivity is inherently valuable

06:43:41.080 if 10 people got first place at the olympics it would be less prestigious this is inherent no different

06:43:47.480 when it comes to who you let in you or put yourself in i've never i'm not dating everyone

06:43:52.680 i've ever had sex with true so it's kind of different but your quick thing yeah because we

06:43:57.960 work in the porn industry say i'm a right or die i'm very loyal you have like one person in your mind

06:44:03.160 obviously and that's a good thing but if you are going to have like sex with another man isn't that

06:44:08.280 still cheating even if it's work or not well if it's consensual then it's not like people have

06:44:13.000 polyamorous relationships like an open relationship then we're open so will you tell your guy like i i

06:44:18.200 would like an open relationship because of my work or how would you go with it because i'm curious for

06:44:23.000 myself in the future i don't know how to go about it if i was to date somebody that does not do the

06:44:27.400 content it probably the only way it would work is if i was to stop it and just film with them because

06:44:32.760 i don't think it's safe for them to continuously because it would be fair for them to be able to go do

06:44:37.240 stuff with other people will you stop making content with men if the other man doesn't want

06:44:41.960 you to and he doesn't want to make content with you as well no he will say do yourself do your own

06:44:47.480 thing on the movies that's fine but he finds it cheating if you do that with another man would you

06:44:51.560 like do that well with another man if i i would no videos at all with another man and yeah i'm sorry

06:44:57.560 i have to move it on i do have to move it on that's very interesting i do think though i mean so

06:45:03.320 you're saying body count doesn't matter men are insecure for it uh if body count doesn't matter

06:45:08.200 what's your body count um i don't exactly know the exact number um so probably like i think like 30

06:45:15.960 ish which is very low for somebody in that does porn considering four of those are from this week

06:45:23.640 you think it's 30 it's around there i think between 30 to 40 sure okay isis what about you you

06:45:31.960 seem to agree with her that body count doesn't matter what's your body count i don't want to

06:45:37.080 answer that how about you give us a range how about that instead of an actual number um less than

06:45:44.120 10. oh

06:45:48.840 you're a liar okay go find every single guy i told in my story ever i can tell you at which stage we

06:45:58.360 date it till and just because in your mind you will think i can't you have that perception you

06:46:03.320 just like you're thinking i'm a liar that's exactly what i'm saying like you don't believe when women

06:46:07.240 tell you the truth because you can't understand there's a different perspective you said your

06:46:13.720 main priority is getting followers and orgasms yes and you believe in like rotational dating you've

06:46:20.520 had multiple like you've had rosters of men that doesn't mean that's what i'm currently believing in

06:46:26.360 right i'm saying currently i only care about followers and orgasms so like i'm not really

06:46:30.760 thinking about rotation no guy like i'm thinking about going on dates that can find a husband as

06:46:35.880 well as creating there's no way to verify uh what the truth is but yeah because you can you will

06:46:41.560 always believe what you want to believe so yeah i just think i mean there's enough conduct on your

06:46:47.960 socials and like your own your judgment because plenty of people don't think the way that you do

06:46:53.480 what do you want people to think about your content i don't care what people think about

06:47:01.000 my content my goal has always always been not to influence but be authentically myself just to be

06:47:06.840 clear she she grabs dudes cocks within minutes of meeting them but she claims to have a low body

06:47:12.440 count it doesn't really add up you know a lot of things don't add up because a person is very complex

06:47:18.440 that's just because you're simple doesn't mean other people are simple so don't project on me okay

06:47:23.560 you get mad at me when i say grabbing dicks but not at him why

06:47:27.960 jesus are you i i just don't understand what the point of your so you make content you don't care

06:47:34.760 about how people perceive it no i don't you have no stated goal when you when you post it you don't

06:47:39.720 you don't have a way you want people to feel or think i want people to feel what do you want them to feel

06:47:44.440 authenticity truth my experience my opinion and your authentic truth is is catcalling men and

06:47:51.880 grabbing their penis that was the story that was the thing that happened i told the story online i

06:47:57.080 and you put a subjective emotion on it i only told you what happened so i don't understand

06:48:03.240 it's every story you tell on your tiktok is that the truth i'm not gonna tell you that you don't deserve

06:48:08.840 for me to tell you no no but i think if you're making it's all true it's about being authentic

06:48:13.720 no no no no no stop wait but i think some people just tell stories because they are writing books

06:48:19.960 and stuff maybe you are like yeah making a beautiful story because you're going to write a book because

06:48:24.200 you want to get famous right it didn't attack you or anything so it's like every story you tell

06:48:28.520 on the internet the truth um body count it's a single digit less than 10

06:48:34.680 three uh less than 10. into the mic like less than 10. 11.

06:48:47.880 oh yeah oh i won't i won't be saying at all oh come on tell me it's my house of ranks as well

06:48:53.720 full disclosure i i spent most of my life being incredibly promiscuous donated 200 you get judged by

06:49:02.120 society because you live with society if your partner loved to shit on the floor but they

06:49:07.560 always cleaned it up after would you not judge them gross is gross hash gives me the ick

06:49:14.280 ick uh thank you framework engineer appreciate the tts thank you thank you anyway i was way into

06:49:20.520 trying to be sex positive and also other stuff when i was younger and it was destroying my life and

06:49:25.720 over time i became a different person and now i deeply want to be that different person it's

06:49:30.840 difficult i don't make the mark all the time but yeah again earlier i said your body count doesn't

06:49:37.320 affect your worth but it does affect how people want to date you and that's fair so anyway high

06:49:44.280 body count sorry everybody not going to talk about it oh my god that's fine it's in the past no i am

06:49:49.800 ashamed though no no it's bad what about you no it's okay one one that's great let's go dog that's

06:49:56.200 great yeah big dog raise the roof okay all right the roof is on fire um

06:50:04.760 um i do think one difference to shane's point that he made earlier um i think a lot of women

06:50:12.120 don't really care like some women might have a preference for lack of promiscuity or low body count

06:50:18.440 in men but i think most women like don't really care when it comes to like males

06:50:25.560 right but so there's asymmetry in what men and women like men tend to prefer women with a low body

06:50:33.720 count and i would honestly question like if a dude's like if a dude looked at his girl and she like had a

06:50:39.960 low body count he's like man i really i don't think any guy absent cucks have ever thought this i really

06:50:47.400 wish she had slept with more men before she met me thought no dude ever yeah that's kind of yeah

06:50:56.760 there's this perception there's this perception that men want like porn star crazy sex and stuff

06:51:03.160 and it's like a man just wants someone who makes him feel safe that's the reality of the situation and

06:51:10.120 feeling safe correlates to low body count well that's because you're insecure oh my goodness

06:51:18.200 i agree you know next topic next topic it's so funny though i mean like we're just gonna talk

06:51:24.600 in circles on this yeah that's why next topic yeah sex is not this complicated procedure

06:51:31.720 and this is actually another differential between men and women because men typically tend to lead

06:51:37.160 in the bedroom so as a guy if you're experienced and you know what you're doing that's what we like

06:51:41.640 we like to be right but if you're a guy a little if you're a guy and you know what you're doing you

06:51:46.360 can have amazing sex with a sexually inexperienced woman it's not so clear to me if the opposite is

06:51:53.160 always going to be true also i would say like most men i don't think would have any problem like if a

06:51:58.440 woman's sexually inexperienced like guiding her or like kind of leading her in the bedroom i think a

06:52:03.400 lot of women would be turned off by like having to teach a guy how to fuck her

06:52:08.360 so i mean yeah women are having the worst sex ever statistically right they're not finishing

06:52:16.680 they're miserable they're feeling awful they dislike it and it's because they don't want to coach men

06:52:22.200 no but also again a lot of pressure on the man again right because he cannot confess he has to do

06:52:27.560 this he has to do that he has to lead us to the bedroom he has to be the man again that's a lot of

06:52:31.560 pressure sure again for the man okay can i just say something go ahead um i think that like a lot of

06:52:41.080 issues like something that's been brought up here is like women's declining mental health like

06:52:47.000 at a faster rate than men and um that's something that andrew said sorry um but uh i think like

06:52:55.400 fertility as well has been on the decline and i think it's not necessarily because i think like the

06:53:04.440 mental health is um largely because of like pesticides and the water and sure okay i think that it's not

06:53:13.880 feminism because that's what i think a lot of i think that birth control has to do with a lot of

06:53:18.600 it sure yeah a lot of overtaking of hormonal birth control is just incredibly bad damaging a woman yes

06:53:26.920 uh okay so i'm gonna try to blast through the notes there's a lot i'll try to be quick uh let's see

06:53:34.120 dominica let's see um

06:53:37.800 um did you isis did you say you were like kind of against marriage no oh i said that it's like

06:53:49.880 it's most likely that marriage doesn't work but i still want marriage and you said like monogamy isn't

06:53:55.960 the natural order yeah it's hard you gotta just go to the table for me it's all right it's going to

06:54:00.600 the table it's hard to school yeah because it's really hard so i mean dominica um you got married

06:54:08.280 to your high school sweetheart you got married at 21. uh do you feel like a lot of women judge you

06:54:13.400 for getting married so young oh for sure always family too yeah but there's also people judging us

06:54:21.320 for like not spinster you know not marrying marrying or not want to get married sometimes

06:54:29.800 no one have kids dominica in your pre-show notes you said porn turns you into a serial killer you

06:54:35.560 wanted to talk about abortion religion conservatism acceptance liberal activism in schools spirituality

06:54:41.560 uh can't talk about that one can't talk about that one not all men suck christianity acceptance what

06:54:47.000 makes you liberal republican what is freedom of speech so why don't we talk about porn turns you into

06:54:50.920 a serial killer oh my god go ahead talk about it okay i remember i was listening actually to

06:54:58.440 this i guess podcast you could say and i don't remember the guy's name he's like the most well-known

06:55:04.440 serial killer his name's just the t i'm ted bundy yes from utah solid city represent yes that guy

06:55:13.880 i don't know i'm sorry that's hilarious you're a comedian i'm a porn star may i ask are you

06:55:20.680 what kind of christian are you are you mormon i'm yeah that's what i am okay nice what does that mean

06:55:25.480 mormon what's i love the ballerina farm i really love them you love what the ballerina farm they're

06:55:31.080 mormon family oh i oh the trad wave girl what is a mormon can somebody explain okay i'll get to that in a

06:55:40.280 second but basically so i was listening to like this podcast thing and there was like this study

06:55:47.320 done with these serial killers and most of all not most of all of them but a good amount of them

06:55:53.720 said that their leading thing was porn so they started there they started consuming it and they

06:55:59.320 just wanted more and more and more of it and so the screen wasn't enough and so they needed more kinky

06:56:06.040 kinky wasn't enough they needed something darker and so i just think that's kind of crazy to me to

06:56:10.760 hear that because that's just like i can answer that thing i think because i'm a porn star uh a lot

06:56:18.120 of kings come around because it's like a trigger yeah if you have a long-term partner like my ex-partner

06:56:23.960 he has a lot of violently triggers as well we use knives tiding up everything and i just got into a

06:56:29.640 relationship with him in the first week he was like i'm gonna fucking knife you up but it was

06:56:35.960 never it sounds crazy i know but it's like a trigger and it's like it's never enough if you

06:56:42.280 do not get that trigger you will look for the trigger again and look for it and that's why it's

06:56:47.400 dangerous if you want can we talk science here um i really i'm really glad you brought up ted bundy

06:56:53.000 because i watched so many documentaries on him podcasts and movie interpretations you know uh during the

06:56:58.920 trial people thought that he was uh watching looking at the porn magazine with grape that's

06:57:05.480 belonged to his grandfather and people had a misconception he grew up in a nice home and

06:57:10.680 people assume that you know they argue the lawyer argue yes the porn and ted bundy also said that

06:57:16.280 himself that's might be reason why he you know did all those things to women however i watched this

06:57:21.240 documentary uh dr louis is on hbo dr louis actually did experiments with all the front

06:57:28.760 front front um death row inmates in the uh maximum security prison and what they have found in

06:57:36.280 common is there's similar dark spots in their mri in their frontal lobe so there's actually physical

06:57:43.400 damage to their brain that's what made them think crazy things so the things i say they may say oh porn

06:57:49.720 made me this way they couldn't even think clearly they don't they're brain damaged and yeah so it's like

06:57:56.520 you don't know what is the reason uh for that i think what she's meaning at the trigger points

06:58:02.600 with some people that you get from watching porn it's like never enough that's why you have so many

06:58:08.360 kings so many more kings join i'm a porn star she's a porn star we know about the kings and it's like

06:58:13.240 it's going more more more it's getting progressively more violent over time like literally every kid who

06:58:19.400 is exposed to porn is almost we are in the industry we see that to women being choked hit spit on i

06:58:25.960 think i also don't like porn i don't want men to watch porn honestly but i just want to disagree with

06:58:31.000 the killer thing because i feel like and also there's one thing that dr louis also said that's

06:58:35.720 really interesting actually he was aborted so basically his mom actually physically tried to

06:58:40.680 abort him that's why but then it was unsuccessful so he had brain damage from that and that's one

06:58:45.960 suspicion that his frontal lobe isn't and that's why you shouldn't be aborting children

06:58:49.640 that's why you should successfully abort children you know even if the law bans it even even if the

06:58:56.360 law bans it there's gonna be women because they get pregnant unexpectedly they would do it themselves

06:59:01.240 at home that causes a lot of danger so yeah i i'm for abortion do it correctly don't do half-ass job

06:59:08.840 don't scream i'm sorry all right so we're gonna review some of the girls dating app profiles starting

06:59:19.080 off with

06:59:22.280 hey it's me oh what what happens this oh this is seeking arrangement it's like a sugar daddy's side

06:59:29.320 are there prompts to it also no not really not a lot yeah

06:59:32.600 okay i do not do free dates or free get to know what does that mean i have to tell a little content

06:59:43.960 about it because you just asked for dating site it's the one i have when i was underage i don't know

06:59:48.520 if i can say that i went on a sugar daddy's side because we didn't have money and i was very hungry

06:59:53.480 and i saw about it on social media and i was like yeah let's go on a paid date and get some food on

06:59:59.640 the table sounds horrible but that's just the way i did it uh i'm not very active on the site

07:00:05.080 anymore i just have it because my social media grow my media presence in the netherlands people

07:00:12.200 will just pay like 200 euros but i never agreed with that uh i would say like 750 euros and above only to

07:00:21.480 have dinner with me what's the amount of money like the average guy makes an hour in the netherlands

07:00:26.680 uh if you work like a full-time job like 40 hours a week yeah in a month you will get like 750 to 200

07:00:36.600 two and a half thousand 2500 euros is that the only thing we had to read it's not a lot next we have

07:00:43.720 lucy should we have her read this or give me travel tips for siberian wilderness retreat obviously a

07:00:52.600 joke i was gonna say the trans-siberian railway rocks i would be interested though

07:00:59.640 yes would you guys swipe on bisexual queen

07:01:07.880 oh yeah that's my friend gorgeous friend though and we're being baddies in vegas

07:01:13.320 uh i said hope you like spicy brunettes lol i have unconventional job you'll either love it or hate

07:01:20.360 it at least you're up front i don't want to say that um because if you say that you do

07:01:27.240 any kind of sw they ban you so you have to like but i obviously like you're i'm not like

07:01:33.000 i don't want to like lie to them i don't even want to talk to somebody that's not interested in

07:01:35.800 that so if you're on like dating apps you are like willing to date civilians right yeah but

07:01:41.240 you would obviously disclose your job right away wait a non-negotiable something casual yeah i don't

07:01:47.240 do hookups you don't have brown hair either dude oh well whatever

07:01:54.600 it may be it's been a little while since i updated it

07:01:56.680 i'm gonna have to wait until now i'm gonna come back okay good pictures though thank you

07:02:03.560 go to dreamland.com

07:02:07.800 is there any more i don't really use dating apps though i just have it just all right guys would you

07:02:12.600 guys swipe right or left what's for who what's yes or no i don't even know all of them i've never

07:02:20.920 for which woman for which woman oh oh jesus you you're not really the wait what's your name

07:02:27.880 uh tomorrow tomorrow you're not really my type i like uh more like like you give in bisexual queen

07:02:33.320 right here that's all right i would swipe for you but not for you you look like you would kill me

07:02:39.480 do i i don't know you would look like you would just stab me in my sleep i don't know you're scary

07:02:44.120 a little bit too straight for me but i am straight i'm pretty straight i'm not the first time i've heard

07:02:49.640 that i'm not gonna lie i do have a pretty nasty you said you wouldn't like you you wouldn't wait

07:02:53.960 for sex though no i would if it's like somebody normal i mean honestly like if i meet somebody

07:03:00.360 okay you meet a guy on bumble oh no i would yeah i wouldn't but if obviously you wouldn't what i

07:03:05.160 wouldn't do that on the first date second date sure if i like if i get to know them like and i feel

07:03:11.160 like it could maybe go somewhere sure okay i don't want to just get used though i'm not really down

07:03:16.120 with the i don't really get anything out of casual sex okay but you you're not like hey i want to

07:03:20.920 wait 10 dates no all right i don't really have an argument i can sense it out i would have an

07:03:26.600 argument if you're like well yeah i want to wait 10 days but like you also do porn i feel like that

07:03:31.560 would be kind of arbitrary like i'm interested in dating like people who also do content but the

07:03:36.360 thing is it is kind of weird because your first interaction a lot of the time when you meet is

07:03:39.960 like you're filming with them so it but like you can still get a sense of their personality and if you

07:03:44.520 vibe with each other all right uh and then tomorrow i have you are you do i saw something

07:03:53.080 fifteen hundred dollar meet and greet what so like if a guy asks you when can we meet you'll say

07:03:59.160 fifteen hundred dollar you mean a quote i reposted on my instagram yeah i read that yeah it's not

07:04:04.120 written by me it's just a quote i thought it was funny okay but if anybody wants to i'm the dutch

07:04:09.000 jessica rabbit on instagram hit me up i'm here no no kidding but it's uh you know what when i

07:04:15.160 didn't have money i was hungry i did that but i never really had sex with one of my dad just at

07:04:20.280 one time it was just lonely man wanted to have dinner and i'm always a little bit scared of

07:04:26.360 men as well i don't know i'm in the porn industry but i'm also a little bit scared of men i don't know

07:04:29.800 why you said you do not really date you also never had a one night stand or anything

07:04:33.320 no no never had a one night stand never and that's maybe i get her point a little bit you

07:04:39.160 make an assumption because of the job and everything yeah but um maybe i got into porn a

07:04:47.320 little bit because i have a little bit of sexual problems myself you hate it a lot right people

07:04:51.000 getting in the industry because sometimes almost no offense they get exalted and they want to feel

07:04:56.520 their power back so they get in the industry and like not to harm you with yourself or anything i

07:05:01.480 didn't mean that but um like my how do you take that it's mental you're when somebody takes your

07:05:08.040 virginity how you call that um i don't just take what it's called yeah i don't think there's a

07:05:14.200 specific term for it it was a very funny way of doing that and every time i had some comments when

07:05:19.400 he did that he was uh like oh you're too wet you have to go to the toilet so i went to the toilet

07:05:23.960 every time then i had to what you know all right when i got my virginity taken away from me i left

07:05:31.240 that guy and he walked away that was the first experience then i had the second guy and you

07:05:36.040 know i was like okay now i'm really ready like yeah let's go okay and you get wet down there i

07:05:42.040 know i was quite older when i got my virginity such thing at least from the guy yeah but like you're

07:05:47.400 too wet i didn't know that's good yeah that would be a good thing i think there's not enough friction

07:05:52.200 sometimes like it's just too like feels like nothing it's just now i know that but i was like 18 19

07:05:57.880 years old i was a little bit older when they took my virginity for the rest but he also said oh you

07:06:03.240 have to go to the toilet you have to wipe it away before we do sex so you get before you get to bed

07:06:08.360 with him you would just think oh gosh i need to wipe it away and you go to think normally when you

07:06:12.920 have sex with somebody your brain goes off you go into the tunnel fishing oh my god i love you so

07:06:16.920 much let's do this it was and then i had the next guy and there was something else he was like

07:06:21.800 oh your nipple gets too hard oh do not talk do not speak all your eyes are rolling back a little bit so

07:06:25.880 every time no but you get to think so i never had an orgasm i never had anything like that so

07:06:32.360 then i got like a normal relationship he didn't care it was like well that's

07:06:35.720 i love you i don't care what you do but then you think too much because you think oh my god i need

07:06:39.640 to go to the toilet i need to do everything so i didn't feel one with my own i've never asked a girl

07:06:45.560 to like you're too wet that's so crazy if you're dating someone and you're going to be intimate with

07:06:51.240 them and you're in your head i'm stop doing what you're doing that is why i never have a one i'd

07:06:55.560 send i've never been on riddle tinder i just started tinder this year um maybe i'm a little bit not

07:07:00.680 scared it's not a good word it's not like i'm scared of my mind i'm just scared sometimes like

07:07:05.240 what if i do anything wrong and if i make my own movies i'm like in control i do not have an orgasm at

07:07:09.800 all when i make my own movies i'm still like if i have an orgasm i lose control that's like a normal

07:07:14.840 thing right you're losing you shut your brain up but i get scared because everything in my mind is going

07:07:20.040 like oh my god what if i make a sound what if my eyes turning what if i i just get this real scary

07:07:25.000 feeling and i just need a man to be like i'm gonna push you through they're gonna hold you down and

07:07:29.560 just like maybe like raping is not a good word but we dominate about it so i get over that feeling

07:07:35.320 and that's hard to explain i'm gonna read a chat here i do not feel one with my i don't know if i have

07:07:41.880 a man who's like i i'm sorry i have to read this uh i i guide bangs a guy bangs a chick has entered a

07:07:47.400 contract to possibly pay for the child he's equally liable for the kid and yes a woman can get an

07:07:52.920 abortion for any reason and a guy has no safe period her choice all right wait are you like

07:07:59.240 saying that's how it is or that it that is how it is um but are you saying like that's how it that

07:08:07.320 that's good is that a statement of support i can't tell yeah yeah that's a good that's a good framing on

07:08:11.640 that how about we not start this again yeah never well it came in like took me a while so

07:08:17.160 either way to get back i had my last action he was very dominant and i didn't want to hurt his feelings

07:08:21.960 and i said oh my god i had my first orgasm but i did not because i was still in my mind like oh my

07:08:26.840 god what if i do anything wrong so for me making the content and the videos was getting a little bit

07:08:34.200 control back in my mind and my body very wrong way maybe but it's my way and that's why i do not make

07:08:41.480 movies with people because i'm like it's good i just want to say i'm so sorry for your experience

07:08:45.240 oh i'm not and i'm i'm okay with it it was quite funny i love about it yeah i'm i do not feel i do

07:08:50.360 not need to agree so you said uh what can we do as women to stop men from getting in their woman era

07:08:59.240 what these are your notes what can we do as women to stop men getting in their women era yes uh

07:09:06.600 that's maybe a netherlands thing i don't know how it is here like the sassy man apocalypse

07:09:10.920 yes is that what you call it a lot of men are wearing like makeup doing their nails and it's

07:09:16.280 not like that i do not care if a man wants to take care of himself look good smell good i don't know

07:09:22.120 anything but i think as a man they still want a woman and as a woman we still in the back of our minds

07:09:28.200 want a man that we can run to for safety and all the discussion we had

07:09:33.080 and a lot of men are in their feminine era how can i find a manly man if every man i meet is like

07:09:43.640 oh my god girl how are you i'm like dude and he's like a very bodybuilder man i think oh my god it's

07:09:49.720 the man he's tattooed he's everything and he's like girl are you let's go to the nail salon together

07:09:54.360 i'm like dude yeah it's like the main equinox they're all like kind of like that and i do not really

07:09:59.400 like that it's nothing i do not have anything against being gay or anything but it's like

07:10:03.800 i want a man where do i find this age where do i find a man correlate to your lifestyle and the

07:10:10.360 people you spend time with in the places you go no i i'm not introvert i'm always at home i do not go

07:10:15.560 out i do not go to festivals i do not i'm at home eating pickles with my are the effeminate men showing

07:10:22.200 up to eat pickles with you how are you meeting them no i never meet i just probably need a man just

07:10:26.760 be on the doorstep with a box of pickles i don't know but i i don't every time i meet a man that's

07:10:32.680 why i'm first on cinder for this year it's very scary for me as well i meet a man i'm meeting them

07:10:38.840 or seeing them walking in the supermarket i'm like are you really like straight or are you gay because

07:10:43.560 and then they are straight but dressing so gay and i'm like okay there's nothing wrong with it but i

07:10:48.840 just want to i want a man i want a man with hair on his legs and it would fight that bear for me in the

07:10:54.440 forest this is a common problem modern women are having where everyone's like oh i really like

07:10:59.160 this and then they get older and then they're like where's an actual man to date me but and you're

07:11:03.800 like well but the women are giving giving themselves away to like the hassan piker types with their

07:11:09.960 nails when they're goofy that's everybody's do you have beef with hassan i don't know i just think he's

07:11:16.200 goofy you know like i get your point of view it's not for everybody but for me i just want a man and

07:11:21.320 i cannot blame the man if you i'm very honest if you look at my instagram you know i make content

07:11:28.280 i cannot blame a man for not taking me seriously like oh my god this woman is probably one i'd stand

07:11:33.480 and then they meet me and they're like oh you're quite reserved you also go to church i don't know

07:11:37.080 what the fuck is this i understand you go to church i just started as you with christian

07:11:41.800 i don't know how you call it okay well good for you keep going i just started that as well and i

07:11:53.480 know the content thing is not really part of it i'm working on it but uh i'm learning a lot just

07:11:59.000 like yeah yeah keep learning and in the netherlands yeah faith is not really a big thing anymore it's

07:12:04.040 very muslim country at the moment um but that's not the point but where do i find a real man and i

07:12:10.600 cannot blame the man for looking at my instagram content page for thinking you know i cannot take

07:12:14.920 this lady seriously because she makes contacts not in the city they are not i do not live in the

07:12:20.040 city i live in the village i live in the hood well you need to not be in the netherlands apparently

07:12:25.240 yeah i've been to a medium as well they say oh he lives not in the netherlands but where do i find

07:12:30.040 wyoming go to wyoming go to wyoming you'll find them they're there are you there no i'm in utah but

07:12:37.240 utah wyoming montana it's all the same place but either way where i cannot blame the man

07:12:41.720 for looking at my page and everything i cannot blame them right but where do i find a man that's

07:12:46.840 like you know what i'm still a man well so you want to go to the places that those manly men would

07:12:53.080 usually like be manly at yeah you know and so i feel like church is one of those things um typically

07:13:00.600 not always but church bass pro shops they're outdoors they live in the car meetings yeah yeah

07:13:09.880 the thing is that in the city women prefer men who paint their nails and do all that kind of stuff

07:13:15.240 and that's what gets you laid and so all the men are trying to do that and then you're like well

07:13:20.840 where are the manly men and they're in a place where women don't prefer that so you need to go find

07:13:26.920 women who don't like that and hang out with them my friends do have that sort of men but i cannot i

07:13:32.440 just want to be like a woman i want to be at home cooking for you get you a fresh meal take care of

07:13:36.840 the house and man doesn't have to leave a finger in my household it's not his job in my opinion well

07:13:41.560 i think you have you're probably gonna get some dms

07:13:46.280 you have a double problem here so the first thing is yes there's probably a decrease in the amount of

07:13:52.280 of these men that you would deem to be a bit more like traditionally masculine but the other problem

07:13:57.320 is even if you do find this sort of men the traditionally masculine men are probably going

07:14:00.920 to have an issue i'm not saying this to attack you but they are probably going to have an issue with the

07:14:06.520 concept and i do not blame them lifestyle being a sex worker i do not blame that's why i cannot

07:14:11.960 blame them because i was a lingerie model first and they already judged you i didn't do anything

07:14:15.720 and then i started my pay i cannot blame them for it but you still i mean as a woman you still find

07:14:21.400 those kind of men attractive so that's kind of but there are not many men left that are just going

07:14:26.280 to the gym have black hair you know oh my god come to the netherlands what do you mean there's a bunch

07:14:33.800 i go to the gym like six days a week i see them all over the place but are they faithful are they

07:14:39.160 true they're like fucked up bodybuilders that's something you have to find out by learning about them

07:14:43.400 um i do i do got to move things on but good luck i'm sure a bunch of men will dm you uh we have

07:14:49.240 giovanni jd can i have you read this uh uh not in your mind but out loud if possible i'm so sorry i

07:14:58.680 didn't even know you said my name um you meet eff effeminate men because you're a prostitute masculine

07:15:05.640 men don't want you and she'll say lots of masculine men want me they're not masculine if they'd entertain

07:15:11.800 a prostitute i didn't say it i i i yeah in your defense you definitely didn't say that i didn't

07:15:17.720 say that is this question for me or for everybody no it's a statement not so much a question but do

07:15:23.400 do you want to date me are you muscular and just are you ready he's a lawyer oh my god i'm a student

07:15:30.760 i'm a lawyer student we can start our own practice i have money okay yeah we have psycho to the dutch lady

07:15:36.760 claiming to be dutch if you want a real man go to the south of the united states claiming to be

07:15:41.880 dutch what does that even mean that is my parents my grandparents everybody is dutch who the fuck are

07:15:49.240 you it's all the rules but if you're spending money just go to my only fan so thank you psycho

07:15:53.080 appreciate it appreciate it thank you man uh let's see uh we need to get to maddie's notes maddie

07:15:59.080 give me just a sec to get that pulled up here you said you're secretly dating your boss whoa

07:16:06.360 not not anymore yeah i was gonna say that surprise not anymore right because you're the good girl here

07:16:13.000 what do you mean no i'm still dating him what do you mean wait i'm still dating him yeah

07:16:17.720 i thought you had a boyfriend oh man oh that's your boyfriend that's my boyfriend oh i thought it was

07:16:23.640 another guy wait she's still dating the throat yeah yeah no we ended up together yeah i'm a detective

07:16:28.440 nice you have a good memory okay uh you said that you may have groomed a 19 year old kid when you

07:16:37.080 were 25 26 yeah okay so i wanted to bring that up because everybody always talks about whether it's

07:16:41.400 good to have um an age gap relationship and this is why i think it's wrong just because of my experience

07:16:48.520 i had gotten out of a really bad traumatic relationship and then i was like 25 26 he was

07:16:54.120 maybe 19 and we became so attached at the hip that it got to the point where he was freaking

07:17:01.800 out even though i told him i didn't want to date him that he that he was like i'm never going to

07:17:05.960 find anybody else i love you why don't you love me what are you doing to the it was like traumatic

07:17:10.680 for me and i felt so bad because it had to have been my fault to have done that to somebody younger

07:17:18.280 you know does that make sense that's why that's what i mean by grooming is 19 young here what are

07:17:23.480 the rules in america he was so young what is it and then it's like 18 what did you do wrong though

07:17:28.760 like you what happened i guess i i feel like i i took advantage of him like he was almost a rebound

07:17:34.680 from the ex and i told him from the get i was not going to be in a relationship but he kept begging

07:17:39.160 he kept begging he was real in love and he's like i love you i love you i love you and he would not stop

07:17:44.120 so i got to the point where i had said i love you once and i mean i did but i was not not i'm not

07:17:49.240 on a i'm gonna wait how long did you see him for under a year okay but i mean so you hurt someone's

07:17:57.720 feelings yeah he's a full-grown man i guess maybe i feel guilty for no reason how is it grooming for

07:18:03.960 like you said you're 25 he was 19 like how would that be you grooming maybe i used the wrong word for

07:18:08.920 sure i just you heard young men take heartbreak incredibly hard that's what i mean all of them

07:18:16.760 they have feelings yeah okay you said that you stayed in an insanely toxic relationship with a

07:18:22.760 drug dealer for three years yeah he was insanely addicted to cocaine and did lean oh my god is this

07:18:29.000 the guy that preceded your grooming incident no that was the one that was right before it that's what i'm

07:18:34.520 saying yeah yeah he's the bad relationship yeah do you think it was your karma for that boy absolutely

07:18:40.040 like god gave you like the terrible man after this like haha punishment yeah no yeah he went to jail

07:18:46.440 like several times really during yeah like we went to we went to cancun and uh i got completely black

07:18:53.880 out drunk i don't drink anymore by the way it kind of kind of still do but uh i got so drunk i wake up

07:19:02.280 and there's all this yelling outside of our apartment or uh like hotel room and all these

07:19:07.640 girls are screaming at him because everybody in the vicinity had thought he was trying to take

07:19:12.440 advantage of me because we were like fighting screaming i didn't i'm just standing there literally

07:19:18.040 i'm just standing there and they're like what why why were you screaming why were you screaming

07:19:21.880 and yeah we brought the worst out of each other and i'm the only one who didn't expect this i was like

07:19:26.760 oh my god you're a good girl helping no i learned in a thrift store and just like totally

07:19:31.640 dated a drug dealer and doing bad girl shit i yeah that's amazing i had a very terrible upbringing

07:19:37.880 i yeah all right you said uh let's see we'll get into you said what you wanted to ask the panel what

07:19:44.600 everyone's definition of high value actually is especially based off modern day society i like that

07:19:52.040 yeah well you guys always talk about high value so do we well kind of think you're thinking like fresh

07:19:57.560 and fit or like yeah i just what is what is a modern day achievable high value woman achievable high

07:20:05.720 value woman yeah shane do you wanna i mean i guess a high value woman would be someone who makes you feel

07:20:14.200 safe who doesn't embarrass you who is loyal but not just in terms of sex someone who will uh who doesn't

07:20:25.480 care about like what you have or where you're going but cares about the content of your character

07:20:30.280 a high value woman respects and loves you as a man despite what you have or where you're going in

07:20:35.720 life she just wants to go there with you would you date a woman that's like richer than you and achieves

07:20:41.320 more than you yeah most so until so i'm 37 until i was about 33 i worked two jobs in the paycheck to

07:20:48.440 paycheck and so most of the women i had dated were doing better than me so i i grew up very poor so only

07:20:55.160 recently have i come into money and so yes i would i've dated women who make more than me for sure

07:21:00.520 yeah so i mean when and i wrote this down uh but uh so i when i think it hold on i gotta fix this uh

07:21:07.800 when i think it comes to uh being high value it's an amalgamation of things so for example i think

07:21:16.120 a woman having a low body count or being a virgin can make a woman high value but say she's a virgin

07:21:23.960 or has a low body count but is heroin addicted and has a bunch of other vices and has a terrible

07:21:30.680 personality um i wouldn't consider this person high value yeah uh so i think it's an amalgamation of

07:21:37.160 things i don't think it's just simply one thing but so i guess i wrote down a list of what i think

07:21:43.960 not they don't need to have all of these necessarily but if they have them then i think overall this would

07:21:49.880 make a woman high value so uh this includes but it's not limited to beauty femininity submissiveness

07:21:57.080 peaceful so not quarrelsome doesn't nag pleasant modest low body count or virgin minimal or no current

07:22:05.400 vice drinking drugs smoking vaping etc minimal or no past vice drinking drugs smoking vaping etc

07:22:12.200 uh an immediate undivided exclusive romantic and sexual attention so i think there's there's more

07:22:21.960 things i could list but to break it down i think those are probably the most important things okay

07:22:27.640 yeah so and on that last one i think it is amazing that i even need to state this but uh i guess

07:22:34.840 prescriptive advice for men i think at bare minimum i don't think it under any circumstance

07:22:40.280 i don't think men should consider or be sexually involved with a woman who is sleeping with another

07:22:48.120 man or even worse multiple other men uh so and other guys for example other guys who will say

07:22:56.440 shit like well she's not relationship material but i'd still smash or recreational use only i say no use

07:23:06.040 only so even if you're a guy and if you're inclined to have like casual hookups one night stands

07:23:11.400 or friends with benefits i still think it's an l for you to sleep with a girl who is or has recently

07:23:16.360 been sexually active with another man yeah okay valid yeah i agree with most of those except for you said

07:23:25.240 past issues with alcoholism or drugs why that one if it's in the past it's the same reason

07:23:31.960 his body count look i mean some people have different if it's some people don't have objections

07:23:36.680 to things in your past um i i do think it's a potential red flag i think people can redeem

07:23:42.840 themselves i think people can have made mistakes in their past and absolutely go on and be great

07:23:48.760 partners be good people um i just think if you can you can always optimize for like the best potentiality

07:23:58.440 so i would say that someone who has no past advice or minimal past advice is likely to be a more optimal

07:24:07.800 choice yeah now nobody's perfect yeah people are gonna have make mistakes but when it comes to dating

07:24:14.280 both men and women are always going to want to try to get the most optimum partner partner they can

07:24:19.400 so um yeah me personally i'm not a big drinker don't do drugs smoking whatever so uh rarely drink so

07:24:28.440 you should try it no no there's nothing to be gained yes why why should i try it silly

07:24:37.800 but when it tears your family apart yeah we're put you in dangerous yeah destroy homes yeah i'm

07:24:43.880 impervious to peer pressure i'm not really interested in drinking but no i don't yeah i just never

07:24:50.600 not addicted to it on the same card previous vice is bad but sometimes it is like if you have a five-year

07:24:56.680 chip that is like an indicator that you've changed and you can do the work and that's actually a

07:25:02.840 positive for a lot of people so there is that also if you are doing the work in redeeming yourself and

07:25:09.320 changing and it's like i can see it that's a huge green flag right so if she's got the five-year chip

07:25:15.240 then she yeah she's putting in work but if you're like and that's the same thing with the body count if

07:25:20.280 you're like hey i've been so good for this long this is how i behave this is what i'm up to these

07:25:25.160 are my boundaries but if you were like i'm in a relationship with you now but last month yeah

07:25:30.760 you're like okay well what am i doing here so yep uh i'm trying to see what else though um

07:25:40.920 i'll actually even take it a step further than like when i'm moving on off from the vice but when it

07:25:47.080 comes to like the recreational use only um all that stuff um and how some men will like sleep with

07:25:54.440 a girl who's sexually active with other men uh i think that should be the bare minimum but i actually

07:26:00.280 take it a step further and i say if a girl is dating other men i'm not interested i really don't think

07:26:07.480 there's anything wrong with that is that controversial i think it is well it's controversial insofar as

07:26:14.600 the way a lot of people move into the dating landscape they're like they're they're involved

07:26:20.360 with other people you know like a lot of girls they're dating some other dude most women aren't

07:26:24.920 ever really single a lot of them are never truly there's some dude in the picture some guy they're

07:26:31.320 fucking they're hooking up with whatever it is and so um but even if they're not hooking up with a

07:26:37.480 guy but they're just like going on three like this girl right here no fan sizes uh she said she went on

07:26:43.160 like seven dates a week if i if i was like date number two and then she's like yeah i got five

07:26:47.720 more dates lined up or even if she didn't tell me but i knew about it i would just lose interest

07:26:52.840 like i would lose interest that's okay like i think that's totally valid because i want to be the next

07:26:57.240 bachelorette but you probably don't want to be someone who want to be the next bachelorette

07:27:03.160 that totally makes sense you're entitled to your opinion and you'll find a girl that's perfect for you

07:27:07.640 just like i'll find a guy that's proven for me brian you're gonna find love yeah

07:27:11.240 it's okay you don't have to prove prove that to me i agree with you okay cool uh and then you wanted

07:27:18.280 to talk about what a woman brings to a relationship because i think the podcast has really changed my

07:27:23.160 opinion on that yeah no so i started watching a couple months ago i'm a big fan now but uh it really

07:27:30.040 made me think you know we talk about how men bring all this to the table right they're the providers

07:27:35.240 they'll build the house right but in modern day because it kind of goes along with what's

07:27:39.160 a modern day woman what does a woman bring to the table nowadays i had to have this conversation with

07:27:43.800 my boyfriend because i was really really interested because prior to being married i'm not necessarily

07:27:49.560 cleaning cooking and doing all these things having his kid right um so i i guess i just wanted to

07:27:56.680 see everybody else's opinion on that besides your body because to me i don't understand why people's

07:28:01.240 bodies on both sides even matter i think this is a problem again we are facing and women becomes

07:28:07.400 more men nowadays we have to work we have to do this we have to do that so how i'm going to take care of

07:28:12.440 a house if i have to do everything the same as a man what is a modern version of what do you want to be a

07:28:20.200 modern version of a woman no i think you have to ask yourself that do i want to be

07:28:24.520 a half of a man in a relationship if you do not want to be be powerful as a woman and act like a

07:28:32.360 woman and let the man be the man that's fair stop comparing yourself to men because you're not yeah

07:28:37.720 if a man builds a house a woman's job is to fill it with love she makes it a home you are the heart

07:28:42.280 of the house a man makes a house and you are the heart of it what men want is peace so you need to

07:28:47.240 bring peace love and gentleness into the life of someone who doesn't experience that on the daily if

07:28:52.840 you're a man you're not experiencing gentleness you're not experiencing kindness and you're very

07:28:57.160 rarely experiencing love even the love of your brothers is not the same as the love of a woman so

07:29:01.560 it's your job to bring love gentleness and you know these sorts of things into in peace most

07:29:07.800 importantly peace that's why when he says no nagging no quarrelsome it's like my whole life is conflict

07:29:14.520 as a man at any time like there's so many times when you're like i'm about to fight this guy right

07:29:18.280 now like all the time your whole life is just you're hyper aware of the

07:29:22.520 violence around you and how competitive other men are and yada yada yada and when you come home

07:29:27.800 you want a woman to bring peace gentleness and love into your life and that's exactly my point

07:29:33.880 a lot of women saying oh men do not understand how it is to be a moment we do not understand what it is

07:29:38.760 to be a man now to be tough and how to defend your home and everything else and not be able to speak

07:29:46.040 about some things i think if you want to be like the heart of the house and be like feminine don't

07:29:51.320 be the man actively gently be so proud of being a woman and be strong at being a woman you can't

07:29:57.400 exist in the space so you have to be proactive with it you have to be proactively gentle proactively

07:30:02.840 loving yourself as a woman just be proud i have a question why are you expecting women to provide you

07:30:09.000 provide you the peace why don't you go see a therapist and find peace within yourself or like

07:30:13.880 your god oh i have tons of p like personal peace in my life but in terms of a relationship where i'm

07:30:22.200 sharing a space with another person and we're building a life or a home or a situation together

07:30:28.840 then what i have to offer isn't so much that i think that a woman is better equipped to bring

07:30:35.960 love gentleness and peace into my life shane if i if i can jump in please so i think so you have peace

07:30:45.080 when you're single yes and so when we say we want peace from a woman it's not like our life is chaotic

07:30:53.480 oh excuse me uh sorry i'm on i'm on the switchboard here too now i'm not in hosting so if your life is

07:31:01.160 uh hold on how do i want to frame this here so if your life is not chaotic as a guy like we're not

07:31:08.840 looking or no if your life is chaotic as a guy we're not looking for women to like be a cure to the chaos

07:31:16.520 in our lives we just don't want you to add more to it that's there you like we don't want you to like

07:31:23.320 be a liability we don't want arguing and drama and conflict we want you to like

07:31:32.360 you said comfort earlier yes we want you to be our peace and comfort yeah not a burden yeah yeah

07:31:38.840 yeah you know how like if you have a problem and you tell a man he tries to give you the solution and

07:31:43.240 that's annoying right you don't you don't you don't want a solution oriented man you want a listening

07:31:47.800 supportive man men want that but it needs it's it's not just in terms of listening a man needs

07:31:54.280 a physical space full of that like i want you to proactively love me bring gentleness and kindness

07:32:01.320 into my life i want to be in the space and be so thankful that you're sharing that space with me

07:32:07.960 because together we have created a place where i feel safe and good because i could do that without

07:32:14.120 you but it's more rewarding with you but only if you're playing ball you know and then i'll provide

07:32:20.120 you with security safety possibly money and these sorts of things yeah i would always

07:32:27.480 can you tilt your mic down i would always prefer tilt it down like this yeah go ahead i always prefer

07:32:33.480 peace and harmony over chaos of course i agree with that but so i i'm a little curious by your

07:32:38.680 questioning here because like do you think are you trying to say that men should have an expectation

07:32:47.480 that women come into a relationship like coming into a relationship are gonna create chaos no that's

07:32:54.600 not my expectation or that we should like tolerate your nagging and quarreling no i don't think that's

07:33:01.240 the case either but so then why the objection to the claim of men no i was just more curious in

07:33:07.160 his personal experience if he is depending on woman to give her him peace or has he found peace

07:33:16.200 i'm depending on the woman to bring me the the peace that only feminine energy the gentleness that

07:33:23.000 only feminine energy can bring me i cannot replicate that and so i need a woman to fill my life with that

07:33:29.720 and the only way to but you have to be proactive in it and a lot of people aren't so that's what a

07:33:34.280 woman can bring she doesn't need to provide she doesn't need to be sexy she doesn't need to do

07:33:39.880 all these crazy porn star things or whatever she just needs to make me feel safe loved and peaceful

07:33:49.000 all right and then uh i think your last thing here uh or you have two things you think your crazy

07:33:55.880 stories are more partying stories than actual people i dated your senior year i did the guy who

07:34:00.520 purposely drove 100 miles in pouring rain to scare me to death then threatened me with bds and toys

07:34:05.960 i'm so dead serious yes what yeah like i said bad childhood great adult but uh no senior year i

07:34:13.560 dated a guy that was much much older than me and i was drinking at a party and i called him because i

07:34:18.520 needed to ride out of there because there were people showing up that i didn't want to be around

07:34:22.120 he got so unbelievably mad at me because he had to come and pick me up and it was down torrential down

07:34:27.800 port rain he's driving a hundred miles down the road and uh told me when we got to his place that

07:34:35.800 he purposely did that to scare me and then this weirdo puts he goes out he goes into another room

07:34:42.280 comes back and just starts laying out bdsm toys like these are going to be your punishment for

07:34:46.840 needing me to come pick you up that's so i dated that guy for one week and he said he had never loved

07:34:52.920 someone more in his life and he i broke up with him because of that experience and he shows up at

07:34:58.360 my mom's apartment door banging on the door because he could not understand why i broke up with him

07:35:04.360 it's kind of sexy how did how does he know your mom's i don't know actually i don't remember but i

07:35:10.680 think he might have picked me up from how old was he and how old were you he was like he was driving

07:35:15.080 28 maybe and how old were you 19. still sexy though it was terrifying you were in the car while he was

07:35:23.320 driving really fast yeah ever since then anytime i'm in a car with a guy and he gets mad and starts

07:35:29.000 driving faster it gives me anxiety you know that's ptsd you know just give him a blowjob in the car when

07:35:35.960 he's mad he will not be mad anymore that is that is abuse that is not right uh we have a message

07:35:44.600 from psycho the fact that you only noticed me spending money and suggested your of might want to

07:35:50.040 commit more to the christian lifestyle and shut down your of this is to the lady claiming to be dutch

07:35:55.480 lol you know i read this before you pull it up what is your thing with claiming to be dutch do you

07:36:00.440 want to see my passport do you want to go out and eat strobe waffles and croquette with me it's

07:36:04.920 fine i will take you out and we can have some dutch food you can come over with me and be a dutch

07:36:10.120 here with me i'm totally dutch you can stay at my house as well for free you do not have to pay me

07:36:15.720 that's fine yeah i'm dutch what do you want uh the twitch

07:36:24.680 go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a phone a prime sub if you have one uh we haven't had a prime

07:36:33.400 in 12 minutes guys i think it's bugged help all right and then we are going to last things here

07:36:42.200 we have a few clips to react to from isis we're reacting to some isis tick tocks

07:36:47.480 finally getting to them um we there's so many but um okay you pick we have the highlight reels

07:36:58.280 oh this is so guys i think i'm going to go actually really oh all right i want to say thank

07:37:05.720 you anyway so all right isis read this currently i only care about two things orgasms and follower

07:37:12.680 count fair point you forgot money no i care more about follower come right this moment okay sorry one

07:37:25.880 sec guys the distance between you realize that that man is about to kiss you till he actually kisses

07:37:34.680 you that length dictates how douchey he is all the finance bros before i realize it they already over

07:37:42.200 here and finish kissing me when there's this one guy he was like very slowly but i i know he's got no

07:37:48.360 game but that makes me feel safe it makes me feel like he's authentic it made me know who he is not

07:37:53.800 all those finance girls bros that just like in and i can't like that's too smooth something is off

07:38:02.920 that's an interesting choice

07:38:07.800 do you live in manhattan yeah okay yeah i'ma i'ma come busy like it yeah please do if you tip under 20

07:38:16.520 do not go on a date with me okay that's embarrassing for me oh that's kind of that's harsh yeah i tip

07:38:23.720 20 usually but i think it depends right like if you're not making a lot of money i don't think

07:38:29.960 first of all i will go on a date with you so there because i i know that i don't want you to spend the

07:38:34.840 money that you don't have so because of my standard i say 20 i just don't want to be embarrassed how

07:38:39.800 much that's the type of person if he would take you out on a picnic that wouldn't cost a thing would

07:38:44.360 you like go yeah of course i love picnics just a guy i have to make for you to yeah be to go on a date

07:38:51.480 with him yeah i think at least 200k a year at least how do you find out i kind of think about

07:38:59.000 their job just context clues context clues all right so you don't ask oh yeah okay you ask how

07:39:05.080 much they make yeah i stayed before taking you out how tall does a guy have to be for you today in the

07:39:12.520 past i said six feet but now i said like i'm flexible yeah you got another video i'm gonna delete

07:39:19.640 this tomorrow same thing as the story though there are only two things i care about right now in my

07:39:25.240 life one is orgasms two is my followers count but this is the same as my story but you did not delete

07:39:35.160 this video this is part of her 2024 era sorry stop dming me i'm not going to respond to any of you

07:39:45.720 like i'm sorry but with all due respect who do you think you are how do you think you're adding to my

07:39:52.440 life first of all i will become a billionaire so if you're gonna give me money then sure you're adding

07:39:58.200 to my life that's worth maybe three seconds of conversation other than that first of all you

07:40:02.840 cannot give me orgasm not as good as the ones i gave myself second of all men traumatizes me when

07:40:07.960 i see you right now i want to throw up that doesn't mean i hate you i don't hate you at all i just don't

07:40:13.320 want anything to do with you and if you could you didn't do five years of therapy and if you couldn't do

07:40:19.240 all the hobbies i could do then just shut up i just you you're not worth it i'm sorry make yourself

07:40:25.720 worth more or give me money but if a billionaire slips slides in your dm you would right i will go on a

07:40:32.120 date with him but you say do not dm me so you scared them scared them off a little bit that's

07:40:37.320 okay were they being mean to you is that why you posted that you're just getting were you just

07:40:41.000 getting crazy dms from people being yeah i was getting a lot of dms at the time because i was

07:40:46.120 so i had this like incident with equinox because a lot of men go to equinox so i was getting a lot of

07:40:50.840 bad dms from men and also that was about the time i was blowing up a little so there's a lot of opinion

07:40:56.600 from men that is pretty bad but those are not the tiktoks i think are the best representation

07:41:06.200 of my life but i don't think they're the funniest wait so okay really quick so what you you keep

07:41:12.440 saying this stuff about the orgasms and that the men they're not pleasing you right but like isn't

07:41:17.640 this the complaint that women have about men that they have porn brain and they can no longer like get

07:41:23.000 erections or like they're not sexually pleased because they're like so demented by all the porn

07:41:28.360 they've watched but like do you watch porn i do watch porn but not very often and you just focus on

07:41:33.880 my vibrator it's just a vibrator you use yeah so like if i have vibrator or dildo then i don't need

07:41:41.080 porn because they're very strong but if i if i'm like for example right now i'm vacationing and i

07:41:45.800 don't i didn't bring my vibrator so like i might want some visual stimulation it's either or you know it

07:41:51.160 depends okay can you do without can you do like months without sexual stimulation like if it

07:41:58.120 depends on the situation if i was in when i was in a long-term relationship when i first broke up

07:42:02.760 it was like if i don't i would have wet dreams if i don't masturbate but then if there was right now

07:42:08.760 there's a long time i haven't had sex so now i'm like whatever okay wait how long have you been

07:42:14.040 celibate yeah i i because i don't know because i didn't keep track of the month the early the last time

07:42:20.600 i had sex was earlier this year with my ex like nine months ago did you almost say husband just

07:42:27.400 now yeah i think she said uh we were kind of sick and like x wait so you've been celibate for like

07:42:34.520 so you didn't marry him when he brought that ring in the champagne to you and then get a divorce and

07:42:40.280 you're hiding it i i didn't get a divorce now oh so you're still married no i'm not married oh

07:42:48.120 okay you were previously married no you proposed i never keep up okay that's not what i said yeah

07:42:54.840 wait so i'm just oh wait i'm just curious so like all the men that like can't make you come

07:43:00.200 now that you've like masturbated so much is it hard for you to climax no it's not it's easier

07:43:05.720 it's easier because i know what i like i know which angle i like and i know how to clinch more

07:43:10.600 but do you think a man can it's a practice i got better for you do you think a man would ever be

07:43:15.960 good enough and bad for you yeah of course i have men that are good for me but like i have to have

07:43:20.840 emotional connection there's a few more videos i'll get this pulled up maddie take it away

07:43:24.920 go maddie go maddie go maddie more tiktoks from isis okay i'm pulling it up right now

07:43:42.360 so i was sad so i tried to use my happy machine

07:43:45.640 but you know obviously all you can think about is him so he wasn't that happy but also the cord was

07:43:57.080 so short and then they just like unplugged right in the middle when i tried to plug it i plugged the

07:44:02.680 wrong thing i plugged in my charger the female orgasm is the only activity that lights up every

07:44:10.840 part of a female brain that's actually funny right now because i can't go in class

07:44:17.960 this actually is funny it is funny actually we've all been there that actually happened

07:44:23.160 we've all been there like you are horny your toy doesn't work divorce is hard oh shut up

07:44:31.240 i feel like i'm on to something here

07:44:32.920 should i read that the ccp plant is arguably the most despicable woman to ever be on the podcast

07:44:44.200 promotes promiscuity prostitution finndom essay against men abortion cuckoldry pornography and

07:44:50.120 she's r-worded demon about who is this uh i feel like you're talking about who is this about yeah

07:44:58.360 i think they are

07:45:02.600 speaking of the pin so like he has the largest i've ever ever since nine because i know it because i

07:45:09.800 always know this is six because i measure it because i don't want men to fool me so every time

07:45:14.680 before i do anything with them i'm like measure it so like i know it's one two three nine but you

07:45:20.760 know what for someone who's so handsome and so well endowed he's really not good at you know s-e-x

07:45:28.280 it's just there's just it's just you know it's how you use it you know there's such a thing going to too

07:45:33.640 big

07:45:36.760 okay you were really in crisis there

07:45:39.560 real raw emotions you're already going through it at that moment so you can never attack me again

07:45:45.400 for saying oh you measure it before you see it on tiktok it's out there

07:45:54.520 why are you always in bed because i love me ask me how old i am i met a woman yesterday she asked me

07:46:00.760 how old i am i said 27 almost 28 she was like oh my god so many women already married at your age

07:46:08.840 how come you're still single and i asked her how old are you she said also 20 something and i was

07:46:15.800 like there are so many women who are dead in their 20s why are you still alive

07:46:23.880 that was really funny actually play a laugh track

07:46:27.800 let me tell you about a moment when i wish i was white this is a long one i'm not saying it's right

07:46:41.320 but i'm saying that's how i felt at the time i had this crush on this person

07:46:46.440 at work it doesn't go away it doesn't i didn't like him i just wanted i can't i can give you a

07:46:53.480 story it's just i invited guys so naturally i hosted a

07:47:01.480 you hosted a whole party just to have a guy over yeah yeah and then he told me and he got drunk he

07:47:06.600 told me that i i know you like me i know you're pretty but you're just not it's not my type i only

07:47:11.000 like white girls that was it was a long time ago let me tell you about a moment when i wish i was

07:47:19.240 white i'm not sorry it's right but i'm saying that's how i felt at the time i had this crush on

07:47:25.640 this person at work i knew i didn't like him i just wanted him to like me for the validation

07:47:31.560 this is pre-therapy so naturally i hosted a party just so that i can invite him

07:47:35.880 this is the difference for me i want to hear the etiquette brought him like black

07:47:39.320 toley so maybe this of it is that?

07:47:42.360 She fully wanted him to make me laugh

07:47:57.720 i was the one i want to yeah i want to let you know

07:48:01.560 At a certain point of the conversation, I said to him,

07:48:10.640 You look pretty, but you're just not white, verbatim.

07:48:21.940 I'm pretty good being Asian right now.

07:48:24.780 Oh, you don't have to.

07:48:25.460 Can I ask a question about white and not white?

07:48:32.740 What is, like, I'm white, obviously.

07:48:35.120 But in my eyes, not racist, you are almost the same skin color.

07:48:41.120 It's like white features.

07:48:42.260 I do not get it.

07:48:43.340 I do not get it.

07:48:46.020 ISIS, do you date Asian guys?

07:48:49.060 Yeah, I do.

07:48:50.380 I dated a half, half last year.

07:48:54.400 All right.

07:48:55.460 Dude, TikTok is fucking cooked.

07:49:00.680 Age range is now, my dating age range is now 18 till death.

07:49:08.120 Because trust me, if you close your eyes, it's all the same.

07:49:12.300 That was crazy.

07:49:13.740 That is crazy.

07:49:14.920 All right, we got another one.

07:49:19.500 It's not that if he wanted to, he would.

07:49:22.380 It's that if you wanted to, you would.

07:49:24.680 If you wanted to find a man that treats you the way you want to be treated, you would.

07:49:29.820 Ooh, but you didn't, did you?

07:49:31.640 You're still staying with the same dipshit because you want him to change for you.

07:49:35.480 You want him to do better, be a better man.

07:49:38.080 And that's not because you're good woman.

07:49:40.460 It's because you're too scared to be alone so that you put the responsibility to change onto others.

07:49:46.040 You see, the problem was never them.

07:49:49.880 It has always been you.

07:49:51.760 Why are you ashamed right now?

07:49:54.140 That's a great video.

07:49:54.820 You're cooking right there.

07:49:56.220 That was the one.

07:49:57.100 That actually is like a big reason I say it in my past relationship for so long.

07:50:01.320 Yeah.

07:50:01.540 You were kind of spitting facts here.

07:50:02.460 Why are you looking ashamed?

07:50:03.600 You're killing it right there.

07:50:04.840 Yeah, thank you.

07:50:05.480 I was going to say that.

07:50:06.120 That was your most valid video.

07:50:07.940 Yeah.

07:50:08.320 You can all say that, Brian.

07:50:10.020 You can all say that.

07:50:11.320 Great comedic timing.

07:50:13.000 Yes.

07:50:13.180 Said something profound and correct.

07:50:15.240 Yes.

07:50:15.560 I'm with you.

07:50:16.260 It's actually the first thing I agree with you.

07:50:18.100 Yes, ISIS.

07:50:19.120 Round of applause for ISIS, everybody.

07:50:21.540 Woo!

07:50:22.320 Let's go.

07:50:23.580 Thank you, guys.

07:50:24.500 Thank you, guys.

07:50:25.080 We finally found something you said we all agree about.

07:50:27.740 We're making children.

07:50:29.540 I can't get anything.

07:50:31.240 So I guess you get to victory.

07:50:33.900 What?

07:50:34.560 What's an ISIS chant?

07:50:36.260 Oh.

07:50:37.520 Wait, wait, wait.

07:50:38.960 That sounds kind of bad, you know?

07:50:40.680 I kind of have a clue.

07:50:43.040 That's so cool.

07:50:44.080 The people outside just hear us chanting ISIS.

07:50:46.260 Oh, I hope not.

07:50:49.280 There's so many.

07:50:50.380 We already watched this.

07:50:51.160 The distance between when you realize that that man is about to kiss you, too.

07:50:53.820 Yeah, we watched this.

07:50:54.680 We got that one.

07:50:55.120 Oh, my bad, my bad.

07:50:56.360 Oh, we got...

07:50:57.720 What the?

07:50:59.160 Hold up.

07:51:00.680 Boom.

07:51:01.400 Boom.

07:51:02.660 I came to the mall.

07:51:06.160 This is very shameful for me to admit, but consciously, yeah, I came to the mall to buy things, but subconsciously...

07:51:16.260 Why do I keep looking out for him?

07:51:46.360 Like, I don't want to see him, but I want to see him.

07:51:49.820 Does that make sense?

07:51:50.760 Because running into him doesn't mean going back to him, so at least I can...

07:51:54.800 And that's so stupid.

07:51:55.720 And I know post-in-ness is dangerous because I have comments saying, oh, he must be laughing at you right now.

07:52:00.380 First of all, he doesn't follow me.

07:52:01.480 He probably doesn't...

07:52:02.440 He doesn't even know I have this TikTok, and I hope he doesn't see it.

07:52:06.300 But since I want my platform to be built on truth, I just want him to tell you guys that I'm not doing well all the time.

07:52:12.840 And I do secretly wish that I can run into him, but for what?

07:52:19.400 But that's just how I feel right now, so...

07:52:22.240 You had a heartbreak or something?

07:52:24.520 You should just, like, hit him up.

07:52:26.140 I do not get it.

07:52:26.920 Wait, so, like, who was that?

07:52:29.100 Was that the guy you dated for a while?

07:52:30.960 I dated a guy, and I caught him cheating with another woman.

07:52:35.160 I ran into them.

07:52:36.140 Do not say ex-fiancé.

07:52:37.760 I didn't.

07:52:38.140 I hear you're thinking.

07:52:39.320 No, this is a different one entirely.

07:52:41.060 I hope.

07:52:42.420 This one's just kind of great.

07:52:44.500 Yeah.

07:52:45.680 People are like, oh, why do you have food?

07:52:47.420 It's because I already ate, because I was like, I don't have to come anymore.

07:52:51.060 Did he show up?

07:52:52.200 No, I just was like, you don't have to come anymore anymore.

07:52:54.620 Because he had excuses about work, but it was kind of fishy, because he kept pushing it.

07:52:59.480 You can have a gut feeling, right?

07:53:01.100 Did he buy you a bracelet after that, because he was guilty?

07:53:04.040 No, I just didn't see him after that.

07:53:06.980 It was the first date.

07:53:09.020 Yeah, it was the first date.

07:53:10.060 And I know him through a friend, too.

07:53:11.740 What's the food?

07:53:12.160 It looked good.

07:53:13.360 Yeah.

07:53:13.920 Yeah, but I didn't have much appetite.

07:53:15.440 He said, oh, no matter what I say, remember that I'll always remember you fondly.

07:53:22.860 And I'm like, great, but I'll always remember this.

07:53:28.000 I'm always going to be traumatized by this while you remember me for all the great things

07:53:34.560 I've done for you.

07:53:37.740 But I am left with hurt.

07:53:41.640 But I am the one hurting, and you remember the good memories.

07:53:47.400 Oh, my God.

07:53:49.360 Are these?

07:53:49.700 Is this on your forehead?

07:53:50.820 Yeah, actually, yeah.

07:53:51.260 I was doing Muay Thai.

07:53:53.240 Oh, okay.

07:53:54.620 Is this why you traumatized men back, because you got hurt?

07:53:59.360 It's hard if you do that.

07:54:01.260 No.

07:54:01.700 I just want to know if other people feel the same way, that I just had a date.

07:54:09.420 It went great.

07:54:11.280 But sometimes, after a date, I just feel incredibly sad, even if everything went well.

07:54:19.620 Oh, my gosh.

07:54:22.220 What's going on?

07:54:23.040 Props to Nick.

07:54:28.520 There you go.

07:54:29.900 Again, a like, and a like, and a like.

07:54:32.060 Thank you for the engagement.

07:54:33.360 All right, but why did you feel bad?

07:54:35.320 He didn't send you money, he didn't buy you anything.

07:54:37.500 Why did you feel bad?

07:54:39.120 It's an intrinsic feeling of emptiness.

07:54:41.660 Yeah.

07:54:41.740 Nothing's worse than being close to someone and still feeling alone.

07:54:45.620 No, if you date so much.

07:54:46.580 And she feels alone, because you definitely shouldn't be dating as much as you are.

07:54:51.000 That's a good question.

07:54:51.620 Were you, like, thinking about someone else, or were you comparing him to someone else?

07:54:54.560 No, I think after I got home, I felt lonely.

07:54:58.200 Like, during the date, I feel like I had a tension, and I envision the future with this person.

07:55:06.600 So, I think I worried I might lose it.

07:55:08.760 And I also worry that by knowing him more, well, I get disappointed.

07:55:13.580 So, I think mostly it's fear.

07:55:16.320 Yeah.

07:55:16.480 Was this your first date?

07:55:17.040 I don't want it to end.

07:55:18.580 No, that was not first date.

07:55:20.620 It's someone I've been seeing.

07:55:21.900 So, you're just really looking for someone that spark?

07:55:23.360 Is that the person you currently really like?

07:55:26.200 Yeah.

07:55:26.900 Okay.

07:55:27.620 Okay.

07:55:28.320 Have you cried over him since?

07:55:31.280 No.

07:55:31.860 How was your last date with him?

07:55:33.020 It was pretty great.

07:55:33.980 All right.

07:55:34.300 Yeah.

07:55:35.040 And he feels the same way about you.

07:55:36.680 So, he mended up a little bit and took you out?

07:55:37.460 I think so, yeah.

07:55:38.540 I just...

07:55:39.220 That's good.

07:55:40.320 Yeah.

07:55:40.800 And he's the type of person that, like I said, I always had a height requirement.

07:55:46.340 But somehow for him, we have chemistry.

07:55:49.000 It made me realize, oh, maybe I have been wrong about people.

07:55:52.280 You have a weak spot.

07:55:53.680 You like him.

07:55:54.460 You have a weak spot.

07:55:55.200 I deeply feel that if we had you back on this podcast a year from now, you would be like,

07:55:59.440 all that stuff I said wasn't real.

07:56:01.260 I think so as well.

07:56:01.460 I'm in love with this person.

07:56:02.740 And, like, I don't care about any of this.

07:56:05.140 You're so calm right now.

07:56:06.540 It's so sweet.

07:56:07.740 Who knows?

07:56:08.340 It's different right now.

07:56:09.380 We don't know what's going to happen.

07:56:09.980 Yeah, true.

07:56:12.500 I'm very tired.

07:56:14.120 Two more things, kind of.

07:56:18.120 There's ISIS show season one.

07:56:21.320 Wait, what?

07:56:22.160 Season one.

07:56:23.300 The pilot?

07:56:24.220 Yeah.

07:56:24.720 The new Netflix show about ISIS.

07:56:27.540 Okay.

07:56:28.280 Oh, this is a nice story?

07:56:30.320 Should we read it?

07:56:31.280 So, um, not all things to use, but, um, hold on.

07:56:35.340 That's one second.

07:56:36.340 I'll never tell.

07:56:38.180 Uh, hold on.

07:56:38.980 Sorry.

07:56:39.220 Beautiful people.

07:56:40.240 The first episode of my dating life features a board of humor.

07:56:42.880 You love me.

07:56:44.380 Yeah.

07:56:44.620 Um, this will be a season of Gaslight.

07:56:47.980 Wait, what?

07:56:48.660 No.

07:56:49.740 And Gatekeep, or will this be season full of authentic love and affection only times

07:56:53.520 up?

07:56:54.200 Okay.

07:56:54.540 That was inspired by a song.

07:56:57.200 Let's see.

07:56:57.740 Uh, this is episode two.

07:56:59.060 You're a date with a guy named Simon.

07:57:00.600 Yeah.

07:57:00.920 You're dropping his name?

07:57:02.260 Uh, there's this stuff.

07:57:03.660 And Netflix, are you watching this?

07:57:06.220 Sebastian.

07:57:07.140 Daniel.

07:57:07.540 This is you on a date with Sebastian.

07:57:09.440 Is this you living out your bachelorette fantasy?

07:57:12.720 Mm, kind of.

07:57:13.660 Yeah.

07:57:13.940 Like, I want to create my own stories.

07:57:16.860 But wait, you just said you want to be happy alone.

07:57:18.640 Who would have thought a very spicy episode is coming soon?

07:57:21.440 Okay.

07:57:21.860 Mm-hmm.

07:57:22.460 Um, oh, this is the guy who bought you the 2,500 Tiffany bracelet or whatever?

07:57:28.680 Mm-hmm.

07:57:29.080 For the threesome, right?

07:57:30.840 That's the threesome guy.

07:57:33.140 Uh, okay.

07:57:35.100 This is you, right?

07:57:36.500 Mm-hmm.

07:57:36.860 Yeah.

07:57:37.420 That's you.

07:57:37.940 Some guy left flowers, but.

07:57:39.800 Unfortunately, they'll be dying alone while I'm, once again, on a plane.

07:57:43.620 Oh, I escaped again.

07:57:44.780 That's so sad.

07:57:45.980 Okay.

07:57:47.080 Um.

07:57:49.040 Okay.

07:57:50.000 Oh, critiquing hinge profile.

07:57:52.580 So, there's an interesting thing here that's coming up.

07:57:56.360 Uh, you say change.

07:57:59.640 Oh, wait.

07:58:00.020 Don't judge me.

07:58:01.300 Coming up.

07:58:03.180 Change my mind about men.

07:58:05.260 Rude.

07:58:06.340 Mm.

07:58:07.320 Yeah.

07:58:08.540 Rude.

07:58:09.280 Uh, I guess, eh, us girls never want to do it.

07:58:11.960 We want to come, child, with you, going out loud.

07:58:14.040 You know, okay.

07:58:14.780 Um.

07:58:15.980 Oh, no, man.

07:58:17.620 Okay, then there's a bunch of, like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

07:58:20.120 Yeah.

07:58:21.140 Blah, blah.

07:58:21.780 I rarely, hold on.

07:58:23.120 This one's from 26 weeks ago.

07:58:24.780 I rarely swipe right on men who say they're six feet on hinge.

07:58:27.920 Mm-hmm.

07:58:28.520 Because that could mean that anywhere from here.

07:58:30.260 Do you read it?

07:58:31.960 Because they could mean anywhere from five, nine point five to six.

07:58:36.820 And you know what I call men below six feet tall?

07:58:39.320 My friends.

07:58:40.480 But, yeah, you know this joke.

07:58:41.860 But, you know, I ate my words.

07:58:43.600 Now I'm being so weird.

07:58:45.460 That's cute for you to say.

07:58:47.360 Yeah.

07:58:48.300 You are in love a little.

07:58:49.420 The short kings of one you over.

07:58:50.980 I don't say that.

07:58:52.540 No, I'm afraid he's going to hear.

07:58:54.620 Is it a bad thing?

07:58:54.980 I'm not afraid of anything else.

07:58:56.280 No, but is it, like, a bad thing for you to say that you like him and you love him a little bit?

07:59:00.340 It's not a bad thing, right?

07:59:01.320 He said he had a math PhD and he told me all about time and space and how time is coming.

07:59:05.760 Oh, it's not interesting.

07:59:08.040 I think it's.

07:59:09.040 Oh, my God.

07:59:10.160 Here we go.

07:59:12.740 This is why I don't understand men.

07:59:14.300 I was at the senior.

07:59:15.300 I've been secretly working on a project.

07:59:19.600 Okay.

07:59:23.880 Guys, tonight turned into a shit show.

07:59:27.940 I'm not ready to show this.

07:59:29.080 And I've never felt so wrong in my life.

07:59:31.340 Because it's about exposing some men and I don't want, like, everybody to know him.

07:59:36.080 It's on your Instagram.

07:59:37.440 It's on your public.

07:59:38.460 They're going to love it.

07:59:38.960 Probably Instagram.

07:59:39.800 My friends see it, but not, like, a large.

07:59:42.160 But now they will.

07:59:43.440 They will lock up your Instagram and they will.

07:59:44.940 And if it's public, you're going to have to delete it after this if you want.

07:59:49.160 Oh, my God.

07:59:49.500 I forgot to tell you.

07:59:50.320 I literally stepped on shit.

07:59:51.920 Yeah.

07:59:54.240 Very disturbing.

07:59:57.520 I'm going in.

07:59:58.520 Okay.

07:59:59.440 I'm going in.

08:00:00.120 I'm going in.

08:00:00.720 Okay.

08:00:03.740 I'm going in.

08:00:04.660 I don't know.

08:00:05.640 I'll be the biggest star.

08:00:06.520 Can you read this?

08:00:07.420 One day I'll be the biggest star.

08:00:08.980 And those of you who are small.

08:00:10.640 Too bad.

08:00:11.440 I was going to say.

08:00:11.940 I'm still on super good terms with that ex.

08:00:25.300 And what you guys don't know was there's one time we were rooming together.

08:00:29.980 This is like a long story.

08:00:31.780 It's not that interesting.

08:00:32.680 You just.

08:00:33.340 Yeah.

08:00:33.700 So.

08:00:34.620 That was.

08:00:35.840 And this.

08:00:39.120 What the fuck?

08:00:41.360 Wait, what?

08:00:41.720 Another funny thing is every single one of my ex after our breakup just got jacked.

08:00:47.700 And they.

08:00:48.780 Yeah.

08:00:49.140 You broke their heart.

08:00:50.320 They went to the gym like, oh, my God.

08:00:51.820 Something wrong with me.

08:00:52.680 I need to go to the gym.

08:00:53.420 Only in my shallow era.

08:00:55.780 Life is not that deep.

08:01:01.320 You can read this, by the way.

08:01:02.840 Yeah.

08:01:03.000 You spend $1,000 a month working on your body?

08:01:05.160 What does that mean?

08:01:05.720 Working out and soft trainers.

08:01:07.200 Sometimes.

08:01:07.420 It depends.

08:01:07.820 My ramen is molding.

08:01:08.720 I have a lot of sports.

08:01:09.320 But if I just wait one more day, my cleaner will come.

08:01:12.740 I don't anymore.

08:01:13.640 That's what I'm doing.

08:01:15.220 $200 a month.

08:01:17.360 Is it the red dress from the.

08:01:18.980 Are getting.

08:01:19.780 Amy saw my.

08:01:21.240 Oh, and that's my best friend.

08:01:24.600 Why do you have.

08:01:25.620 Is that.

08:01:26.480 Good story.

08:01:29.180 Wait, is that.

08:01:30.320 Do you have a communist manifesto?

08:01:33.060 Yeah.

08:01:34.280 That's my target audience.

08:01:35.180 It's good reading.

08:01:35.960 That's crazy.

08:01:37.720 Oh, yeah.

08:01:38.900 Hey.

08:01:39.620 What does that mean?

08:01:42.220 Are you a fan of Marx, Mao, Stalin?

08:01:44.900 Who you got?

08:01:45.260 No, I just.

08:01:45.920 I'm a fan of everything.

08:01:47.280 I want to learn about it.

08:01:48.500 It's not that I'm like supportive of it.

08:01:50.480 You know.

08:01:50.720 I don't know much about it.

08:01:51.720 That's fair.

08:01:52.440 Okay.

08:01:53.200 You're not informed if you don't.

08:01:55.560 Know both sides.

08:01:56.300 Are you going to be informed on Dareback?

08:01:58.660 What?

08:01:59.620 What?

08:02:00.380 Hold on.

08:02:03.560 Oh.

08:02:03.920 Oh.

08:02:04.240 Oh.

08:02:04.360 Oh.

08:02:04.520 Oh.

08:02:05.400 Oh, are you good at Dareback?

08:02:07.520 Yeah.

08:02:08.020 Oh, of course, Ryan.

08:02:09.240 Can you read that?

08:02:10.440 CCP is a four out of ten.

08:02:11.840 The attention she's gotten on this podcast shows y'all are pathetic.

08:02:14.780 She's not attractive.

08:02:15.740 Most evil and stupidest on the panel.

08:02:18.080 How much did Winnie the Pooh pay, Brian?

08:02:20.600 Not my words.

08:02:21.520 Thank you.

08:02:22.080 Not my words.

08:02:22.900 We have one more.

08:02:24.320 One sec.

08:02:25.360 We have ISIS show season two.

08:02:28.620 Is it long?

08:02:29.800 Just a moment, boys.

08:02:32.980 How are you going to have a reality show if you don't want your business out there like

08:02:36.800 that, though?

08:02:38.120 Me?

08:02:38.920 Yeah.

08:02:39.440 I did.

08:02:40.260 My business is literally out there.

08:02:42.440 Wait.

08:02:42.680 ISIS, read this?

08:02:43.380 You sound like a psychotic narcissist.

08:02:46.540 No matter how disgusting you are, trust me, I can be more disgusting.

08:02:49.660 Oh, okay.

08:02:52.200 One, one, one, okay.

08:02:54.520 How many followers do you have on Instagram?

08:02:58.820 I don't have much on Instagram.

08:03:00.740 I just mostly post TikTok.

08:03:02.040 You just post a thousand?

08:03:02.880 Do you want to say that?

08:03:03.620 Yeah.

08:03:03.900 I don't have a very small one.

08:03:05.920 Is this dating?

08:03:08.700 I think it's just her life in general.

08:03:10.880 Yeah, it's just my life.

08:03:11.920 I'm sorry.

08:03:12.620 You should...

08:03:13.420 There's like dating stuff there.

08:03:14.940 Wait, I'm going to be rude, but did you write, I'm the bravest person I've ever met?

08:03:28.500 Yeah.

08:03:28.960 That's so funny.

08:03:30.300 It looks like...

08:03:31.180 I know.

08:03:31.700 I think it takes a certain type of narcissism to record a video of yourself talking, watch

08:03:37.860 it back, smile, and be like, yeah, that's right.

08:03:43.200 You tell them, queen.

08:03:45.800 Yeah, so people are like...

08:03:47.380 Okay.

08:03:48.060 So I was sad, so I tried to use my happy machine.

08:03:50.920 You are quite sad a lot of time.

08:03:53.020 Can you ever pause for a second and think, how can I just do such cringe?

08:03:56.540 Okay, you see these bruises here?

08:03:58.780 I think life is really not that deep.

08:04:01.000 It just consists of the things that you do.

08:04:05.060 And what...

08:04:08.320 You know, I think truly inspirational.

08:04:10.800 Men can stop DMing me.

08:04:12.940 I'm not going to respond.

08:04:14.260 Yeah.

08:04:15.120 Note to my future, the distance between...

08:04:19.840 Oh, no.

08:04:20.640 Okay.

08:04:21.140 Yeah, I think you misread the situation.

08:04:24.060 I'm sorry.

08:04:24.640 Those are not about dating.

08:04:27.100 What do you mean?

08:04:27.920 Those are not about dating.

08:04:29.320 I'm sorry.

08:04:29.820 The first one.

08:04:30.200 The first story was...

08:04:30.700 There's something about the dating.

08:04:33.180 I guess the season one had more dating.

08:04:35.080 Season two is more about self-discovery.

08:04:36.980 We need a season three about love.

08:04:41.360 Season three is where you jump the shark.

08:04:43.340 Anyway.

08:04:44.700 And be in love.

08:04:45.860 We get married.

08:04:46.200 Honestly, there's like so much more on the TikTok that...

08:04:49.500 Did we read these two, Madison, that came in?

08:04:52.780 All right.

08:04:53.620 If you guys want, get your...

08:04:55.580 Oh, wait.

08:04:56.320 Frick.

08:04:57.080 Oh, man.

08:04:57.420 We don't...

08:04:57.660 It's a good advertisement for your TikTok, though.

08:04:59.420 Yeah.

08:04:59.920 Thank you.

08:05:00.860 Okay.

08:05:01.720 Any final thoughts here before we wrap up the show?

08:05:05.320 Any final thoughts?

08:05:07.960 Speak now.

08:05:08.860 Forever hold your peace.

08:05:09.240 This is actually a pretty long podcast.

08:05:11.480 I just want to...

08:05:12.440 I wonder if like there's a break possible for future guests.

08:05:16.180 You know, my back kind of hurts.

08:05:17.740 I had to get up and walk around quite a few times.

08:05:19.860 Yeah.

08:05:20.500 Today's show is a little longer than normal, but...

08:05:23.580 For some entertainment where guests can rest a bit.

08:05:26.500 Something like that.

08:05:27.240 Yeah.

08:05:27.600 You know, this is a struggle.

08:05:28.680 Commercial.

08:05:29.140 This is a struggle session.

08:05:30.520 And then we're here to get to the bottom of all the crazy...

08:05:34.200 Eat some pizza or something.

08:05:34.760 Yeah.

08:05:34.960 Oh, man.

08:05:35.480 We didn't really...

08:05:36.520 Yeah.

08:05:36.960 I mean, it's been between like seven and eight hours.

08:05:38.980 We didn't get to touch on what I said.

08:05:40.240 What time is it right now?

08:05:41.380 It's like 9 p.m. or something.

08:05:43.380 Okay.

08:05:43.660 No fucking...

08:05:44.460 Just kidding.

08:05:45.300 I need to do like a three-hour drive back.

08:05:47.220 Brian, where do you need to go to?

08:05:48.480 Has anybody ever asked why you started doing all this?

08:05:50.100 Same.

08:05:50.680 Yeah.

08:05:51.040 People have asked.

08:05:52.600 By the way, guys, I'll just do...

08:05:53.880 We'll do a five, ten-minute row session, then we'll wrap the show.

08:05:56.520 TTS is 30.

08:05:57.800 TTS is 30 if you guys want.

08:05:59.500 I need to update everything in the thing.

08:06:01.760 Shane, what you got for us?

08:06:03.140 You got a...

08:06:04.240 You used to be...

08:06:05.280 I think in your notes, you said that you used to have kind of a crazy life, but now you're

08:06:11.440 a Catholic man.

08:06:14.120 And you're trying to change things up or what's up?

08:06:17.060 What were you just asking me generally?

08:06:18.860 Like what's going on with my life in general?

08:06:21.600 Like going from being a bad person to trying to be a good person?

08:06:25.020 Yeah, I was a degenerate idiot.

08:06:27.380 And then I did crime when I was young and was in a motorcycle club and, you know, beat

08:06:31.820 people up for money and robbed people and did all kinds of bad stuff.

08:06:34.940 And then I decided to stop doing that.

08:06:36.680 And then I lived like a very, I don't know, like sex-positive liberal lifestyle where I

08:06:43.300 was like, you know, trying to do comedy and go to New York, whatever.

08:06:46.300 And then that was destroying my life because those values are not conducive to having a

08:06:53.280 fulfilling good life in good relationships with people.

08:06:56.500 And I noticed that everyone around me who did porn or...

08:07:00.600 Rosetta Stone donated $30.

08:07:02.900 Brian, ever notice the general female infatuation with 666?

08:07:08.980 Six feet tall, six-figure income, six pack abs.

08:07:13.100 I like the Dutch gal, the Korean gal, get a cat.

08:07:17.520 Janit Van Uw, Bessikanda versus Nipo.

08:07:21.560 I love you as well.

08:07:23.100 I'll follow me on Instagram.

08:07:24.840 Would love that.

08:07:25.620 Appreciate it, man.

08:07:26.880 We got a couple more that are going to be coming through.

08:07:29.400 Loose Pussy Energy donated $30.

08:07:32.380 Chair 2 most delusional arse lowered 304 in all of whatever podcast history.

08:07:38.500 She dishonor her whole family.

08:07:40.060 Maddie, please smack the fuck out of this stupid, crazy bish.

08:07:44.840 I'll pay your bail.

08:07:46.880 Hashtag shut the fuck up.

08:07:49.160 Not worth it.

08:07:50.680 What the?

08:07:51.940 What the hell?

08:07:52.540 You didn't need to speak so much.

08:07:53.760 Oh, jeez.

08:07:55.680 All right.

08:07:56.260 Who's the directed tour?

08:07:57.060 Yeah.

08:07:57.440 I think her, yeah.

08:07:59.060 $30 TTS, roast section.

08:08:01.400 We'll do 10 minutes, then we got to wrap the show, guys.

08:08:03.400 It's been a long stream.

08:08:04.380 She's like, fuck her.

08:08:05.620 10 minutes.

08:08:07.400 Why?

08:08:07.840 Yeah.

08:08:08.960 Because people are stupid.

08:08:11.400 I don't know.

08:08:12.420 Isis wasn't that bad.

08:08:14.580 No, it was about her, right?

08:08:17.200 No, I thought it was about Isis.

08:08:18.280 Isis doesn't have Isis.

08:08:19.380 Chair number two.

08:08:20.300 She doesn't have tattoos.

08:08:21.700 Chair number two.

08:08:22.980 Oh, maybe he was talking shit about both of you then.

08:08:25.900 Huh?

08:08:26.660 Huh?

08:08:27.640 That's the correct response.

08:08:28.880 You didn't even speak so much, so how can he be mad?

08:08:32.100 Yeah.

08:08:33.700 Yeah, this is true.

08:08:35.720 Does he want to talk about his issues?

08:08:37.980 Do you want to talk about your issues, bud?

08:08:40.780 Do you want to talk about your issues?

08:08:42.540 $30 TTS, guys.

08:08:43.820 Get them in.

08:08:44.280 We're going to wrap up the show here in a few minutes.

08:08:46.620 Wait, is it not coming in?

08:08:48.360 No, they're coming in.

08:08:49.180 I want to eat pizza later on.

08:08:50.680 I'm hungry.

08:08:51.420 Jesus Christ.

08:08:52.200 I'm so hungry.

08:08:52.960 What's in In-N-Out?

08:08:54.300 It's closed.

08:08:55.080 In-N-Out?

08:08:56.040 Closed.

08:08:56.780 Yep.

08:08:57.700 But what is it?

08:08:58.700 It's burgers.

08:09:00.040 Curtis underscore Leon underscore donated $30.

08:09:03.480 What the fuck?

08:09:03.940 Brian is so fat you have to pack a lunch to walk around him.

08:09:07.460 It's true.

08:09:07.600 He's so fat to have sex.

08:09:09.940 Layla has to slap his thigh and ride the wave in.

08:09:12.540 It's true.

08:09:12.780 He's so fat his Newig profile pic is an aerial photograph.

08:09:16.700 It's true, bro.

08:09:17.740 That's very rude.

08:09:18.520 So I go donated $30.

08:09:20.560 Brian, how dare you skip my $100?

08:09:23.160 I took out a payday loan to do that.

08:09:26.340 Wait.

08:09:26.780 Typical BLM behavior.

08:09:28.380 Freak.

08:09:28.700 We didn't skip it.

08:09:31.540 Wait, Psycho, we didn't skip it.

08:09:33.180 Which one?

08:09:33.780 Psycho, send another one in.

08:09:34.900 Tell me what the message was.

08:09:36.580 You only sent in two, I'm pretty sure.

08:09:39.840 There was the fact.

08:09:42.600 Yeah, I'm pretty sure we read it, bro.

08:09:45.060 But clarify.

08:09:46.640 Does the limit change as it goes on?

08:09:49.420 Because now it's 30.

08:09:50.360 Oh, I just, we bump it down at the beginning, at the very end for like 10 minutes.

08:09:54.880 I see.

08:09:55.320 Like people want to send the last.

08:09:57.220 No, not retention.

08:09:57.940 Just if somebody wants to send in a kind of final message before we wrap the show.

08:10:02.820 I see.

08:10:03.880 Yeah.

08:10:05.120 I need to honestly access.

08:10:06.780 I feel like we got to, we got to do a deep dive on another episode.

08:10:11.120 Oh, God.

08:10:11.560 On your just entire TikTok.

08:10:12.820 I don't know if I'm mentally ready for this.

08:10:14.900 You want to have your own Netflix show?

08:10:17.440 Of course, do it.

08:10:18.620 Now it's your chance.

08:10:19.200 I don't have any media training.

08:10:20.860 I need some PR.

08:10:21.420 You did good.

08:10:22.160 You did great, Isis.

08:10:23.440 Thank you.

08:10:24.100 You weren't as bad as Desiree.

08:10:25.200 I want to meet Andrew, though.

08:10:26.280 The other guy that's always here.

08:10:27.460 I want to meet him.

08:10:28.360 Who's Andrew?

08:10:29.140 Who's Desiree?

08:10:30.660 Desiree is crazy.

08:10:33.360 Okay.

08:10:33.960 You're like Gorlock the Destroyer.

08:10:35.380 Oh, yeah.

08:10:35.860 Yeah, Gorlock's coming back.

08:10:37.540 No way.

08:10:38.720 Eventually.

08:10:39.500 Eventually.

08:10:39.900 We'll have her back.

08:10:42.120 Okay.

08:10:42.580 I'm going to start getting the raid going for Twitch.

08:10:46.700 And then if you want, you guys, last call.

08:10:48.540 Last call.

08:10:49.280 $30 TTS.

08:10:50.300 Get it in if you want to roast anybody.

08:10:52.060 Roast Maddie.

08:10:52.620 Roast Shane.

08:10:53.220 Roast me.

08:10:54.120 Roast Isis.

08:10:55.860 You can do it.

08:10:58.080 You can do it.

08:10:59.440 Be brave.

08:11:00.920 Goz.

08:11:01.840 Celebrate the brave.

08:11:03.860 Roast me.

08:11:04.920 I'm not going to raid anybody.

08:11:06.120 Giovanni Jade.

08:11:07.020 He donated $30.

08:11:08.420 Thank you, man.

08:11:08.760 Thank you.

08:11:09.220 Shane gave zero Catholic spitting.

08:11:11.480 I'm telling Matt Fradd.

08:11:13.200 Blonde Girl was based.

08:11:15.200 Isis was worse than Desiree and Findem Redhead.

08:11:18.540 Pink dress is cute, but she should quit prostitution.

08:11:23.220 I agree.

08:11:24.640 Well, I think you should go eat shit.

08:11:27.600 All right.

08:11:28.640 I'll be sure to proselytize harder next time I'm on the silly dating podcast.

08:11:33.080 I will watch my fat dog.

08:11:34.680 Yeah, we should give you back, man.

08:11:36.120 Hey, I'd love to.

08:11:37.020 We could discuss some other stuff.

08:11:39.220 Definitely.

08:11:39.960 I love that.

08:11:40.640 If you're religious, people are like, why weren't you more religious?

08:11:43.400 But if you're more religious, people are like, why aren't you less religious?

08:11:46.200 People are like, shut up.

08:11:46.760 Yeah, yeah.

08:11:47.540 I would love to talk more about the porn industry.

08:11:50.060 Like an unfair question that I'm always doing.

08:11:52.020 I would love to do that.

08:11:52.980 Like the video.

08:11:53.540 Matthew Harder, hey, Ned Flanders, I don't care how many tattoos you get, you will never

08:11:58.860 be black?

08:12:00.520 Apparently.

08:12:01.920 What?

08:12:02.380 Oh, no.

08:12:04.240 Damn.

08:12:04.560 It's because I have the blackout tattoos.

08:12:06.560 Oh, I see.

08:12:07.920 Damn.

08:12:08.860 I like the tattoos.

08:12:09.480 Ned Flanders.

08:12:09.980 I like the Ned Flanders, though.

08:12:11.780 That's good.

08:12:12.460 He has a great mustache.

08:12:13.680 That's a compliment, actually.

08:12:15.380 I see it a little bit.

08:12:16.760 Thank you.

08:12:17.320 I have one question going around the table.

08:12:19.480 Who do you think is the primary victim of war?

08:12:22.140 Who's?

08:12:23.200 Huh?

08:12:23.400 ISIS.

08:12:23.500 The primary victim of war?

08:12:25.340 Of war?

08:12:26.360 Can we get an ISIS chant?

08:12:27.320 What does this mean?

08:12:28.880 ISIS.

08:12:29.860 ISIS.

08:12:30.940 ISIS.

08:12:32.460 Okay.

08:12:33.080 All right.

08:12:33.360 That was cringe.

08:12:33.900 My bad.

08:12:34.200 Yeah.

08:12:34.520 That is a little bad.

08:12:35.640 A little cringe.

08:12:36.500 Who's the primary victim of war, men or women?

08:12:39.860 Men.

08:12:40.960 ISIS.

08:12:43.020 Men.

08:12:44.020 Men, obviously.

08:12:45.440 Men.

08:12:46.520 Men.

08:12:47.100 No, don't roll your eyes.

08:12:48.280 Give us to the real.

08:12:48.800 Oh, that's true.

08:12:49.240 Into the mic.

08:12:50.000 Into the mic.

08:12:50.760 You don't know.

08:12:51.760 Okay.

08:12:52.840 Statistically.

08:12:53.500 Not statistically.

08:12:54.920 Like, men.

08:12:57.120 Men.

08:12:57.920 Men.

08:12:59.160 Yeah, it's men.

08:13:00.400 Okay.

08:13:01.700 Okay.

08:13:02.860 All right.

08:13:03.820 That was an interesting show.

08:13:06.580 I think we'll get things wrapped up here.

08:13:08.780 Are we going to say our Instagrams again or anything?

08:13:10.860 No, you're going to delete your OnlyFans is what you're going to do.

08:13:13.680 No, I'm not.

08:13:14.880 I'm not.

08:13:15.920 My OnlyFans is for free at the moment, so no, I'm not deleting it.

08:13:19.280 No.

08:13:19.660 You want to find a good, masculine, traditional man?

08:13:22.600 Do you want to date me?

08:13:24.020 First, it's probably prom, but.

08:13:27.580 No, you got the labiaplasty.

08:13:29.020 I'm sorry.

08:13:29.380 Oh, no, but I will take the labias with me on the date.

08:13:34.720 You'll take it with you?

08:13:35.660 Yeah.

08:13:36.120 On strong water.

08:13:37.240 I will bring it.

08:13:38.440 You should donate those.

08:13:39.120 He didn't say no.

08:13:40.340 You should donate those to someone who wants to have a foreskin again.

08:13:43.160 But he didn't say no.

08:13:44.700 Bro, he didn't say no.

08:13:46.200 It's true.

08:13:47.140 So is there an opening for us to go on the date?

08:13:49.660 You didn't say no.

08:13:50.780 I'm sorry.

08:13:52.800 You're an attractive girl.

08:13:54.280 You're cool.

08:13:54.780 But, like, you do porn.

08:13:56.360 And I just, I can't do it.

08:13:58.360 GMD Jim donated $30.

08:14:00.920 The whatever podcast.

08:14:02.720 Dispelling the high Asian IQ myth.

08:14:05.320 Please never let her on the show again.

08:14:07.560 Brixton.

08:14:08.860 I agree.

08:14:10.140 I probably don't have that.

08:14:11.220 I like Dyson.

08:14:12.760 She was a good porn.

08:14:13.200 Curtis underscore Leon underscore donated $30.

08:14:17.000 Question for the panel.

08:14:18.440 What is the one country in Europe who surrendered their capital city without a fight?

08:14:23.080 Hint.

08:14:23.740 Brian is from there.

08:14:25.340 Ten years in the USMC, but I never sent in a draft card.

08:14:29.820 Ha, ha, ha.

08:14:32.060 Psycho donated $30.

08:14:34.580 Dutch lady, if you want a traditional man,

08:14:37.340 you will delete your event, actually commit.

08:14:40.320 Otherwise, you are a typical Netherlands heretic.

08:14:44.460 What is your problem with the Netherlands?

08:14:47.120 Why, why, we donated $30.

08:14:49.160 Why does Blondie's only scams say she is online if she isn't?

08:14:53.600 Also, PLST and me, BC, I love a scammer.

08:14:57.540 If you're logged in, it says you're active.

08:15:00.080 You know, if you're logged in.

08:15:01.940 Yeah.

08:15:02.060 Psycho donated $30.

08:15:04.220 Dutch lady, if you want a traditional man,

08:15:06.820 you will delete the year off and text your link commit.

08:15:09.680 Otherwise, you are atypical in the Netherlands heretic.

08:15:12.520 Is that in Dutch?

08:15:13.400 I made it a...

08:15:14.460 That's not Dutch at all.

08:15:16.180 I know.

08:15:16.620 He's saying it in English with a Dutch accent.

08:15:19.740 I couldn't understand.

08:15:20.420 That didn't work.

08:15:21.660 That didn't work.

08:15:22.320 I thought it was Dutch because Dutch is a very unserious language.

08:15:25.900 Hey, watch it.

08:15:27.460 Come here, man.

08:15:28.400 Watch it.

08:15:29.280 It sounds like the Swedish chef from the Muppets to me.

08:15:31.020 I will fight you.

08:15:32.140 Don't do that.

08:15:33.360 Don't talk about the Dutch people like that.

08:15:36.380 I'm very proud to be Dutch.

08:15:37.760 Don't do that.

08:15:38.180 Oldman Marine donated $30.

08:15:41.520 Chane was awesome.

08:15:42.940 Definitely come back.

08:15:44.320 This is more Dutch.

08:15:45.280 Blondiet with the shirt chest, see?

08:15:47.060 Looks nice from here.

08:15:49.060 This is more Dutch, actually.

08:15:50.600 It says Alzheimer's.

08:15:51.320 No.

08:15:51.760 It says, um, presque vous.

08:15:55.000 French.

08:15:55.600 Presque vous.

08:15:56.600 Presque vous.

08:15:58.040 Psycho donated $30.

08:15:59.740 My problem is you claim one thing, but then do another thing.

08:16:04.240 At some point in your life, you will realize the mistakes and wish you had taken my advice.

08:16:09.920 That's not very true because I told in the podcast, eventually I will stop, but you have

08:16:14.860 to reconsider.

08:16:15.960 It's not safe for me to stop yet because if you're making a sort of amount of money to

08:16:20.700 live off, like your rent and everything and everything is so expensive, if I stop immediately,

08:16:25.340 I cannot pay for things and I do not have a roof above my head, I cannot pay for food

08:16:28.920 anymore and I will have a big problem.

08:16:31.220 So, yeah, that's another story.

08:16:34.240 Giovanni J.D. donated $30.

08:16:37.740 Dutch said she's Christian.

08:16:39.940 No, she's not if she's a prostitute.

08:16:42.860 Faced tummy ache girl and her redhead friend.

08:16:46.340 Faced other are girls next to Shane.

08:16:49.500 ISIS sucks.

08:16:50.640 Don't bring her back.

08:16:52.540 Brian looking lean.

08:16:54.140 Brian looking lean?

08:16:55.500 What the?

08:16:55.960 That's the most crazy thing about that one.

08:16:58.680 Who's the other Christian here then?

08:17:00.640 I'm not Christian.

08:17:01.300 Were they just calling me bait?

08:17:02.460 Us?

08:17:03.100 I don't know.

08:17:03.420 I have no idea.

08:17:03.960 And I'm your redhead friend?

08:17:05.380 Damn, I love that.

08:17:06.900 I'm your friend.

08:17:09.480 Anything else you want to say about me anonymously?

08:17:11.660 If you guys want, get your last, you can get your last one in.

08:17:16.520 I'm going to wrap the show.

08:17:17.580 Here's the link, guys, if you want.

08:17:20.340 All right.

08:17:21.120 Let me do the outro here.

08:17:22.700 Oh.

08:17:23.200 Red Thunder score PSA donated $30.

08:17:26.480 You had a good exchange with Vivian, but lasted with hypotheticals.

08:17:32.540 Brave and decent man.

08:17:34.400 Maddie, you could have saved us from her TikTok, but didn't.

08:17:38.240 Tackle Brian, psycho donated $30 saying eventually is a scapegoat.

08:17:45.940 And deep down, you know that.

08:17:48.320 You could easily cut your expenses and live like millions of people do.

08:17:53.660 Don't assume you deserve a certain lifestyle.

08:17:56.160 Kyle.

08:17:57.240 That's not very true.

08:17:58.580 The rent is the rent, and it cannot go to my landlord and say, hey, I do not want to

08:18:03.500 pay that I owe some anymore.

08:18:05.000 Fuck you.

08:18:05.840 It's not how it works, right?

08:18:08.120 Indeed.

08:18:08.900 Indeed.

08:18:09.960 Okay, guys, before I wrap up, last chance, any final thoughts?

08:18:14.340 Yeah, that's a no.

08:18:15.060 Okay.

08:18:15.300 No, I love two guys.

08:18:15.880 It's never too late to change.

08:18:17.380 You could be a better person.

08:18:18.600 Do it.

08:18:19.900 I don't know.

08:18:20.100 Follow me on TikTok, Isis Hong.

08:18:22.240 Yeah.

08:18:22.700 Follow me on Instagram, the Dutch Jessica Rabbit.

08:18:25.220 Netflix, give Isis one season of a show and then cancel it.

08:18:31.300 That's okay.

08:18:31.840 God loves you no matter your past.

08:18:33.820 There you go.

08:18:34.620 Yes.

08:18:35.040 Amen.

08:18:35.480 Amen.

08:18:36.460 All right.

08:18:37.040 Newly single, Dilf donated $30.

08:18:41.100 30-year-old father of two, any advice for moving on after my wife of seven years cheated

08:18:46.860 on me?

08:18:47.480 Fuck her mom.

08:18:47.920 Hit the gym.

08:18:48.580 Fuck her mom.

08:18:49.600 Go on with your life.

08:18:50.840 Hit the gym.

08:18:52.340 Slow up.

08:18:53.340 Psycho donated $30.

08:18:55.620 It's called ending your lease agreement.

08:18:58.200 Nice try on the same thing.

08:18:59.360 Where do I live them?

08:19:00.380 At your place?

08:19:01.660 You stupid.

08:19:03.520 Call them a canker.

08:19:05.120 Call them a, what's it called?

08:19:06.080 A canker?

08:19:06.540 A canker lion.

08:19:08.220 Ram de Biel.

08:19:09.800 Achterlijke staatsmroll.

08:19:11.860 What do you want?

08:19:13.700 We should really go on a date.

08:19:15.380 I feel the sexual tension here, though.

08:19:16.920 I like the angry stuff.

08:19:18.200 I like angry men.

08:19:18.960 We should.

08:19:21.460 Excuse me.

08:19:22.320 Okay.

08:19:23.340 All right.

08:19:24.440 GG.

08:19:24.940 GG.

08:19:25.440 Well played to the panel.

08:19:26.540 Last call, guys.

08:19:27.560 Hit the like button on your way out.

08:19:31.600 We, oh, thank you guys for tuning in tonight.

08:19:35.240 You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.

08:19:36.780 I appreciate that.

08:19:37.400 Thank you to everyone who so generously super chats, donates, and supports the show.

08:19:41.060 We will be live again Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific with another dating talk.

08:19:46.540 Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.

08:19:51.260 Big thank you to the panel.

08:19:52.260 I know it was a long show, guys.

08:19:54.040 It was a good show.

08:19:54.980 Good panel.

08:19:55.580 Appreciate you guys.

08:19:56.200 Psycho donated $30.

08:19:58.620 As a Southern man, yes, you would live at my place.

08:20:01.860 Oh, I knew.

08:20:02.280 But only if you deleted your of.

08:20:04.400 I knew you would love me.

08:20:05.480 I knew it.

08:20:06.220 You're not like this angry man.

08:20:08.120 You're just a little frustrated liking redheads with big tits.

08:20:11.300 Oh, my God.

08:20:11.940 Okay.

08:20:12.400 DM me on Instagram.

08:20:13.780 There you go.

08:20:15.260 All right.

08:20:16.040 She's after a green card or something?

08:20:17.840 I don't know.

08:20:19.780 Okay.

08:20:20.220 Let me just double check that that's everything that came through.

08:20:24.440 I think it is.

08:20:25.260 I think it is.

08:20:26.200 Okay, guys.

08:20:27.940 Let me do this.

08:20:30.020 Sorry, guys.

08:20:30.500 I'm managing the stream here, too.

08:20:33.600 It's a good chat.

08:20:34.620 Good chat.

08:20:35.120 You guys were great.

08:20:35.800 Thank you again all for coming.

08:20:37.940 I'd love to have you guys back again for another show.

08:20:41.080 Great panel.

08:20:42.080 Thank you guys again for watching.

08:20:43.580 O7's in the chat.

08:20:45.120 Hope you guys have a good night.

08:20:46.200 Thank you guys for watching.

08:20:47.760 Good night, guys.

08:20:56.200 Good night.

08:20:57.140 Thank you.

08:20:57.540 Good night.

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Whatever Podcast - August 14, 2024

SHE CRIED？! Men INSECURE About Body Count？! NYC Gold Digger Has Roster Of SIMPS？! ｜ Dating Talk #187

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