SHE CRIED？! Men INSECURE About Body Count？! NYC Gold Digger Has Roster Of SIMPS？! ｜ Dating Talk #187
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On this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have our first guest, Jess Peachy. She's a full-time content creator, streamer, and Twitch streamer from Las Vegas, Nevada. We talk about how she got into Twitch, her love of video games, and how she became a streamer.
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Go ahead. Hi, guys. I'm Jess Peachy. I'm 25. I currently live in Las Vegas, Nevada, and I'm
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a full-time content creator, streamer, and I do OnlyFans. All right. Welcome. And the
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tattoos. You got a couple cool tattoos. Yeah. I've got, you know, the OG3, Squirtle, Bulbasaur,
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Charmander. And then you've got a Warcraft. I do. I get a lot of heat for this because I
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have Alliance and Horn. I played both. We all played both. Are you a classic Andy or you play
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Retail? I never got into it with classic. I think I started around, like, Lich King,
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Cataclysm. Okay. And then the upper chest, what is that? What does it read? It says
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presque vous. It's French. It means almost seen. Presque vous. Presque vous, yeah. Almost
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seen. Almost seen. What's the meaning there? It's like on a deeper level when you're about
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to realize something, like, really big, this, like, epiphany. And just as you're wrapping
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up the thought, you lose it and you forget it. Almost. Wait, and so that's what that means
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or that's the explanation behind the tattoo? That's the explanation. Okay. Well, it's the
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definition. It's what it... I mean, does it have any practical meaning for you, though?
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I got that feeling a lot when I got the tattoo. Like, you have an idea and then you just forget
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it? Like, just... How do you say Alzheimer's in French? You should have just got that put
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on your chest. Alzheimer's, yeah. Isn't that the same thing, right? You come up with an
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idea, but then you forget that shit? It was sharp. Yeah. We're going to... Okay. All right.
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Okay. Cool. Cool. What about you? Hi. My name is Isis. I'm from New York. I... What's
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another thing I need to answer? I'm 27. I do TikTok. My username is Isis Hong. I-S-I-S-H-O-N-G.
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I'm also a software engineer. Yeah. Software engineer. Okay. So you got a degree in computer
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science? I got a degree in biochemistry and computer science. I did, too. And then are
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you also... You're also a ballerina. Is that correct? Yeah. I do dance. Okay. But I wouldn't
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call myself a ballerina because they put so many years of actual hard work into that. Yeah.
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Okay. So are you going to, like, show us a plie or... I can do a split, but I don't
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think... You can't do plie? What about a pirouette? It's just, like, when I'm nervous, I feel like
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it's not good to do those. Okay. That's fair. And you said you're from New York City, right?
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I'm originally from China. My parents are Korean, and I moved to Seattle when I was 15. Now
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I live in New York. Yeah. Well, how did you end up in China? So my mom is North Korean.
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And my dad is South Korean. They met in China because my grandparents came from North Korea
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and South Korea. Okay. And I was born in China. That's why I was in China. Gotcha. And then
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you said you're from China. You moved to the U.S., was it? Yeah, when I was 15. 15. So
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you went to high school, and you moved straight to New York, or where were you? No, I didn't
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go to high school. I went straight to college when I was 16, and I did five years of college.
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That's why two degrees. Okay. Then I started working for five years in Seattle. Then I
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moved to New York two years ago. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Okay, cool. Welcome. Yeah. What
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about you? Hi, my name is Tamara, better known as the Dutch Jessica Rabbit. I'm from the Netherlands
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for the people that do not know what the Netherlands is. Amsterdam, drugs, stuff like that. Hold
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on. There's more to the Netherlands than Amsterdam. A lot of people do not know. I say I'm from
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the Netherlands. They're like, what? And then I say, oh, Holland. They're like, what? And
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then I say, Amsterdam. They're like, oh, you do drugs? And I'm like, no, but do you want
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to buy some? You know, I'm very open. There you go. I'm 28. I'm an adult industry content
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creator, and I'm also a student. I'm studying legal administration employer. Okay. I think
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that's the name for it. Got it. And you're born in the Netherlands. Yes. Okay. Have
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you said you were involved in the adult industry? Yes. I mean, Netherlands has a pretty robust
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like escorting prostitution. Not like that. Have you been in the red light district at
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all? Oh, no. We do. Oh, that's so weird. When you are going to school in the Netherlands where
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you're very young, like 12, 13 years old, you have school trips. I don't know if that's
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a thing here, school trips. They take you to the red light district just to watch and see
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it. Like, oh my God, this culture, just for fun. Wait, so at how old? Like young. It's
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not like, here, you're going to work here or something. No, it's just like. Is it cautionary?
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No. I have to, the Netherlands are very like open-minded people. We do, we are roasting
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people just for fun. We do not have that kind of feeling. So I'm like, oh my God, that's
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offensive. We do not have that. We will just like roast you. But they like take kids to the
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red light district. No, they will see it, right? They will see it on the television
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and stuff. So we're just like, we're going to Amsterdam. It's a part of Amsterdam. We're
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going to walk through it, laugh at that people, and then they get out, get an ice cream or
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something. I've been to Amsterdam like three times for work trips a long time ago. And
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I mean, it's actually really easy. It's pretty much right near the city center. You can just
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stumble into the red light district. It's just a normal street. And the women are beautiful
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mostly as well. I don't know, they're a lot from Russia and stuff, I think. They're very
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beautiful, actually. But it's just in the street. You have to like just shopping street
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and it's just in the back of it. Just like naked. Yeah. But a lot of people are very open
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in the Netherlands. You can walk naked in the Netherlands. They were like, oh, yeah, it's
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fine. Just another Tuesday. It's fine. Sweet. Cool, cool. Is this your first time in the
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U.S.? It is actually. Oh, wow. Okay. Welcome. So if you have any recommendations, let me know.
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I want to see everything. I want to see the people at Walmart. I want to see like everything.
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What a burger. Yeah, those are the most important American things. I want to see fat people. I
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want to see everything. I want to see everything. Have you ever been to Zaken Burger? No, we
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do not have a lot of fast food restaurants at all. We just have a burger in KFC, like a
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little subway. We're not like the menus you have. No, well, when I was in Amsterdam, there's
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this good burger place called Zaken Burger, like right by the city center. Then you suck
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your burger or something. What do you do? Zaken. Zaken. Z-A-K-E-N.
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No, I never heard of it. But as a Dutch person, we do not even go to Amsterdam a lot because
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there's a lot of tourists there. It's not really Dutch anymore. So the Dutch people are
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more like Amsterdam. It's nice for one day. No, we just go there if we want to be a tourist
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in our own country. It's very weird actually. Okay. We do that here too. Really? Yeah. People
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go to New York. Americans don't leave America. Yeah. But I have... We go on vacation in our
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own country because we're poor. I had such a different view of America. I just saw America
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like on Netflix and I just romanticized everything. And I just arrived here. I saw people screaming.
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Yeah, don't see that. And I saw people sleeping on the street. And I was like, what the fuck
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is going on here? And it's like, yeah. I don't know. I love it. I love it. Cool. What about
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you? I'm Vivian. I'm 18. I'm from San Francisco originally, but I moved across the bay.
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Oakland? Yeah. Next to Oakland, Orinda. It's like a suburb of Oakland. Okay. What do
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you do for work or school? Well, I have like an internship with like a private or like a
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small like record label, Firebird Sound. And I would like to do music, but it's more of
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like a hobby. Like, so I will be working at Pete's probably. What? What's that? Pete's
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Coffee. Oh, okay. Nice. On your Instagram, it says you're a member of the deep state.
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What does that mean? Oh, well, that just means like, I'm just recognizing that I'm...
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Curtis, I appreciate that. It's almost the first anniversary since Layla confessed her
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love to you. BTW, if Layla and Bree asked you to join that work team and you'd make $1 million
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Curtis, you and your like, would you questions. Yeah, it is. Is it the anniversary? Yes, sure. I
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will join the twerk team for $1 million. There you go. Actually, no, I'll negotiate it.
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The deep state thing. So is it just like Gen Z edgelord stuff?
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No, it's just like a small recognition of the, of Alex Jones. Just a small homage, like just...
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It's an Alex Jones homage? Yes. About the things that he turned out to be right about. Are you,
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are you a big Alex Jones fan? No, because... Oh. So it's a homage, but you don't like him.
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I think that he's like, well, I, I like him as like a character, you know. Okay. To watch, but...
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So the homage is what exactly? Oh, the homage is just to the things he was right about. Like,
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because he like kind of predicted 9-11 and I don't know if I can say the other one that he predicted.
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Okay. All right. Cool. Because it's like... What about you?
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Me. Um, hi, I'm Lucy. I'm 19. I'm from Los Angeles and I'm a student.
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All right. What do you, uh, study? I'm still kind of figuring that out. Um,
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I've been in the arts since I started school. I started, I wanted to get a bachelor's in visual
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art, but I'm more interested in film now. Are you at a city college or four year university?
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I'm doing community for now. Okay. You're just doing some credits. Yeah.
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Undeclared major. Okay. What about you? Oh wait, actually Lucy, uh, on your Instagram,
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it says we'll have her revenge. What does that mean? Okay. So yeah, that's some definitely like
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teenage edginess type. I don't know. I kept it up for a while. I probably did that a few years ago,
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but it's from the, um, Nirvana song. Francis will have her revenge on Seattle or Francis
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Farmer will have her revenge in Seattle. And I don't know, I had like a spiritual connection
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with that song or something when I was like 16. Yeah. But I still, yeah, I love grunge.
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All right. Um, and, uh, you have an interesting sternum tattoo. We can't really show it, but what's
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the story there? Not much of a story. I just thought it was sick. Just thought it looks cool.
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Yeah. Got paid and wanted to get a tattoo. Okay. What about you? My name's Alexa and I'm from
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Baltimore, Maryland. I'm 21 years old and I do OnlyFans and content creation and I'm also a student.
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So I study, um, advertising and PR and I also do marketing. So you said 21? Yes. Okay. As of like
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two weeks ago. What about you? I'm Maddie. I'm 27. I'm from Dallas, Texas, and I run a thrift store
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for the deaf community. And as we know, as I think it's the only deaf thrift store, like the,
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we're the only one that does that. Okay. And I'm Lauren Cofie. I'm a singer, songwriter,
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model, and actress, all of them creative things. Um, I'm from Nottingham, but I live in London.
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Age? 30. All right. And were you recently on like a reality TV show or? Yes. Might have been.
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I was on Blue Therapy. Yeah. Okay. And you said you're a singer. What kind of, uh, what genre of
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music? Um, so I sing mostly R and B, but with the songwriter, it will be like with rappers or
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house music. I've got some house songs out there. Bit of everything. Can we hear a little sample,
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a couple of bars? Someone give me a song. Cause I'm so indecisive. Alicia Keys. Which one? Fallen.
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If I Ain't Got You. Oh. Oh. Beautiful song. Wait, wait, wait. Give me the lyrics. Wait.
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Some people live for the fortune. Some people live just for the fame. There you go. Wow.
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Thank you. Cool. Next. Amazing. Uh, I'm Shane Smith. I'm 37. I'm from Utah and I'm a comedian.
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All right. Welcome. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome Shane. And, uh, you always lived from in Utah or?
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Yeah. Yeah. I pretty much grew up in Utah exclusively. I lived in like Mount Arrowhead
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here in California for a little bit, but. Okay. And, uh, I'm sure people might be curious.
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So what's the genesis of all the tattoos? Um, yeah, I get my family is white trash. I grew
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up in the middle of nowhere. My stepfather was in a motorcycle club. And so me and my brothers
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kind of went that route in our lives. And so, yeah, I, I had full sleeves in my neck
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and stuff when I was 18. So. Wow. Were you affiliated with the motorcycle club? Yeah. Okay.
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Are you still? No, no, I am not. I am out good. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Cool.
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Um, do you still have the, um, I, I saw Sons of Anarchy 10 years ago. I've never seen it jacket
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or? No, no, you don't keep your cut if you leave. Okay. Got it. Cool. Cool. What about
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you? I'm Dominica. I'm 22. Um, right now I'm just at school, cosmetology school. Um, I used
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to be a gymnastics coach though. That was like really fun. Um, so yeah, life is just
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mid right now. Life is mid. Oh no. I live right now. Uh, and where are you from? California.
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California. So LA area, I guess. All right. And you're in cosmetology school. You want
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to do hair, makeup. What do you want to do? Uh, yeah, I enjoy doing hair and makeup, I guess
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like events, like weddings, proms, things like that. Okay, cool. Well, we're going to go around
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the table once more. What is everybody's current relationship status? So are you single, talking
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stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex, cult
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harem, whatever it may be. If you're single, how long have you been single and what's the
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longest relationship you've ever been in? Go ahead. I am single. Um, I've been single for
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about two and a half years now. Um, my longest relationship was five years. Was that the one
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that ended two and a half years ago? Yes. So that was from like 18 to 23 kind of or? Yeah.
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Um, end of 2017, December. Um, and then July of 20, gosh, 2022. Were you guys both like
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last year of high school or? I got married at 18 out of high school. Yes. Okay. So you
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guys were married for five years? Yes. And the divorce is official or still in the works? It's
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waiting on a signature. Okay. Who initiated the divorce? Uh, it was me. Why? Um, there's a lot if
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you go all the way back, but, um, essentially it boiled down to, he didn't want to be married. Um,
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he said he didn't love me while we were married, but then every time I would say, well, let's stop
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wasting each other's time. He would kind of like pull back and be like, no, don't leave me. Um,
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and there was infidelity. And so it just got to a point where I had to leave. It was not,
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I was trying so hard to make it work and it just, how long had you guys been seeing each other before
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you got married? About a little under a year. Okay. And you said he enlisted in the military?
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Yes. He was a Marine. When you met or? He was training to, um, ROTC. He didn't do ROTC,
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but he was working out with them. He knew he wanted to join. Um, so I was aware of that.
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Okay. Yeah. And, uh, any relationships? Well, wait, so you've been single for 2.5 years and
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that's since the divorce? Yes. There's been no other guys in the picture? No. Nothing? Zero?
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Come on. Not a short-term thing, friends with benefits? No, I haven't really seen anybody.
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Since the divorce? What about during the proceedings, during the divorce? During the relationship?
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Any infidelity on your part? Um, yeah, they're, so, it's a long story. Um, he,
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he cheated on me with my best friend. Ooh. And. What? It's about to get juicy.
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Best friend, eh? Yeah. Okay. And, um. How long, how long were you best friends with the best friend?
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Friends with the best friend? We, we were friends for a couple months, but she was my best friend that
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I had made in my adulthood. Okay. So, and, you know, it's military. You move away from everybody you
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know, and you're kind of like in your own separate bubble. You're not with your family and, you know.
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Right. So, yeah. And then, so, and I cheated on you and so you were like getting revenge or who
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cheated first? Yeah. Uh, he cheated first for sure, but I, um. Did you fuck his dad or something?
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God, no. That would be so great. I know she, her, her boyfriend fucked the best friend. I don't know.
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That would be great. I, um, there was another guy who kind of was like, you know, he's not treating
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you right. You deserve better. You know, all that. And, um, was he your friend? No, he, he was one of
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his friends actually. Yeah. That's messy. That's always how that goes out. And he tried to get me to
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leave the relationship and be with him, but I saw him like break down when I told him I was leaving
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and I had never actually seen him like fight for me at that point. Um, and I thought like what kind
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of wife would I be if I didn't try to stay and make it work? And he said, you're going to last like
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another two years, his friend. And he was right. So. And so let's see here. You, were there multiple
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different partners when it comes to the cheating or just this one guy? No, it was just that guy.
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And then did you end up dating that guy or? No. So it was a couple short term thing. Yeah.
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And then you've been celibate for 2.5 years about or? I, I have been with one person, um, but
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not for a while. You haven't seen him for a while. Yeah. How long, uh, how long were you seeing him?
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Are you still seeing him? Probably like, probably like a couple months.
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Are you still seeing him? No, I'm not. So you guys broke up or fizzled? It wasn't really a
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relationship ever. Okay. So you've been single while it wasn't a relationship, but okay. Yeah. No
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serious relationship for 2.5 years. Yeah. Um, you said you do adult content. Do you shoot scenes with
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men? Uh, I have in the past. I don't currently do that. You have shot scenes and was this through
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your OnlyFans or you've done traditional porn? No, I've haven't done traditional porn. It was
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through OF. Okay. And you've, you said with a couple men or just one man or one guy? Was
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it the guy who for a couple months that you were? Yes. Okay. Got it. Can I ask you a question?
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Ask me a question. Uh-huh. Oh, okay. If that's okay. Yeah. You said, um, what kind of wife
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would I be if I do not fight for a relationship? Yeah. If you, if you do not fight for a relationship,
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if you look back at the time that you cheated, do you regret it? Because that's not really fighting
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for your relationships, right? I do. Yeah. Did he know? He did. So, so he's not going to find
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out from this podcast. This is such a weird situation. Like he was trying to get us into
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like polyamory at some point because he couldn't be monogamous. The last gasp of a guy in marriage.
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But with your best friend. And so he, I say I cheated, but he knew that I was with him. Like
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it's, but I consider it, it was cheating, you know? So. All right. What about you? So currently,
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um, I just started dating someone, but I think it's getting serious. I don't know. We should have
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a conversation, a check-in, uh, whether my longest relationship is five years. Um, from when I was
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18 to like 18 plus five. What's the other question? There, that's it. Uh, how long have you been,
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if you're single, how long have you been single? Oh, I'm not single. Yeah. I just started seeing
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someone. How long have you been seeing this guy? Um, like two, three months, but we don't really
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see each other very often because he's really busy. I've been really busy and traveling. So I'd be
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like, we don't see each other sometimes even like two weeks. Yeah. So it's hard. Yeah. So it's a bit
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slow. When you say it's starting maybe to get serious. Yeah. What, what does that mean?
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Like I'm ready to have sex with him. That's so cute. That's so cute. Hold on. Wait, you're
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ready to have sex with him? Yeah. You guys haven't had sex? No, but next time I'm thinking about it.
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Wait, how many, how many times have you seen each other in person? I, more than a dozen, but I don't
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know, like every week we try to every week, but there are times that's like two, three weeks we don't see
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each other. So you've seen him about a dozen times? More than, yeah, I guess. Why are you so
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surprised? Well, there's things that I'm, okay. Well, so hold on. Why, why are you surprised by
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my surprise? Because you look like, why didn't you have sex yet? Three months? Well, I mean, I know
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you're a man, right? And I get it. I feel like that's kind of normal. Don't you do porn? Yeah, that's what I was
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thinking. But I do not suck dick for a living. That's not what I do. But that's another story
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we've come to. Why do you look so surprised? Well, if he wanted to wait, maybe sees like a
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wife. I don't know. It's so cute, right? Okay, so anyways. Very romantic. I think it's so romantic.
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He's a man of whimsy. Well, it's enjoying himself and absorbing the information. It's just men
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always disappoint me. It's like, I have my vibrator. I can't guarantee I have orgasm every day.
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Why would I have to go out to meet a guy to pretend to enjoy it? You do not want a real
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dick. When I don't feel love yet, you know? Like when I truly feel like, okay, you know
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what? When I cuddle you, I still feel satisfied. Okay, let's do that, you know? But otherwise,
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it's just a waste of my emotion, my makeup and my hair, you know? And then you could get
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attached too. Yeah, exactly. We biologically get, we release oxytocin to get attached with them.
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And that's just unfair. Yeah, but I understand. But are you not scared if you're so in love
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with him and everything and you finally have sex and he has like a small dick? No, I touched
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him the first date. Oh, you touched him the first date, but now you're waiting. It's like...
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That's torture. That's torture. That's torture. Can you tilt your mic down a little bit?
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She's done everything. Tilt it down. So, and has this, does he want to have sex? Yeah,
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yeah. I think so. Like he's on me all the time. But you're like, let's wait. Yeah. Till
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I'm ready. He's very respectful. Yeah. But he's interesting. Like he's made moves and you're
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like, no, let's wait. Yeah. Have you had sex with a man quicker than 12 dates? Yeah,
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of course. Have you had sex with a man on the first date? I've had one night stand before.
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Yes. A couple of one night stands? Yeah. Second date? Second date. Yeah. I think so. Third
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date? Probably. Yeah. Fourth date? I mean, if you keep going, we can... How many? I don't
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know. Fourth date? I don't know because I can't tell you like... If you keep going, it'd be like
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20, 30, 40. So... I don't remember. You touched his dick and then you were like, no, not today.
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No, like when you make out, you do the test, you know? Like, is it big? You gave him like
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a handjob? Blue balls. You can give a handjob. I don't have to give a handjob. Can I ask you
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a question, dude? Yeah. Shane, if let's say you're like hooking up with a girl but she doesn't
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want to like do anything like too far and but handjobs on the table. I don't know about
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you, dude. I'd rather just not get the handjob. You're not... No, that's not my experience,
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you're not a fan. Are you old fashioned? Yeah. I'd rather just not... Like if a handjob
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is all that's on the table, I'd rather just not. You know what I... No, you're just lazy.
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I mean, I get where you're coming from. You know what I get? But I feel like most guys are
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so desperate. They're like, anything, just anything you have, I'll dry hump you. Please
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let me... Oh, they literally dry hump you. Me. Yeah. They dry hump all the time. Oh.
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Like, that's not one person. I'm like, I've had... Like, I don't want to have sex. Have
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you ever dry humped somebody? I'm from Utah, brother. I have dry humped a lot. I guarantee
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you, every man has dry humped. There's one day you will dry hump, but you'll regret this
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moment. What is dry humping? Can somebody film it? Is it like... It's when you make
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your clothes on. Robert Tanner, thank you. And you're having... Thank you, Robert. You're
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essentially having sex, but your clothes are still on. So you're looking like a little
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strange... Looking against you, yeah. Yeah. Gyration.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever... Oh, what's it called? Like, grinding.
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Are you gonna ask about soaking? Yeah. Have you ever soaked? I have not soaked, but that
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is a real thing that does happen. Wait, are you Mormon? I'm not Mormon. I'm Catholic.
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Okay. Okay. Have you ever been, like, so horny, you just, like, rub your jeans against
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something? Like, that's... No. I have. So that's the feeling of dry humping, yeah. No. I...
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I want to go home. Me too. I never done that. No, actually, no. She would actually have
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sex. But so I'm curious, so... Maybe, yeah. And are you religious? Yeah. Are you religious?
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No, I'm not. So, and then, the guy that you saw before... Like, have you been seeing other
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guys during this time period? Actually, not. Actually, I haven't. It's not because I haven't
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tried, but just because I haven't... Tell them the truth. Isis, you tell them the truth?
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Okay, yeah, I have. There's... You've been seeing other guys, right? Well, no, I have
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been. I've gone on, like, first dates. You've gone on dates? Yeah, I've gone on dates with
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other men. Did you hook up with any of them? No. Isis? Isis? No. You're not doing the
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test? Tell them the truth. Huh? You're not doing the test on any of these guys? Oh, I am doing
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the test on them. Oh. But I made out with them, but I didn't have sex. But do you also feel
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their dick? What? Well, yeah, if they're small, it depends. I mean, if it's, like, three,
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I might not see them. But it also depends. Like, maybe they're not hard at that moment.
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So, it just... I need more data to prove. But what if... Wait. So, I need to go on more
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dates. Wait. Did you actually even say that the size matters? Is that...? Size matters. Okay.
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But so, if you, like, you go for that immediate grab, and it's not, like, up to par, do you
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just leave, or do you, like, kick it for a bit? I would say, um, it's not that big. And
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then see how he reacts. You will say it in his face. No fucking way. You can tell him that.
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I've done that once at a bar. There's a guy who's really cocky. So, he was really cocky.
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He was like, oh, you know what? Come home with me. I have this, this, that. And he was, like,
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gesturing down there. And I was like, okay, then let me see. Let me see. If you're gesturing,
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let me see. Okay. And then he scooted over a little bit. It was like,
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at the bar. So, underneath the table, I just grabbed it. I was like, I don't know what I'm
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seeing. Like, I don't have seen anything. But what is a normal size for you? Like,
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if you held it, like, one or two hands? Maybe two. Two, yeah. I love this story
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about how this guy, you're like, oh, I totally dunked on him, and he tricked you into grabbing
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his dick. That's what happens. Yes. That's his move right there. He's like,
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I did it. What an awesome night for me. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah.
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Well, I didn't grab his dick from the inside, just on the outside. It doesn't, it's still
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a win for the boys. I'm telling you. No guy cares about that distinction.
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Well, then, I'm very generous. You are, yeah. Good for them.
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You are a very open person, literally. Yeah. I love that for you.
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Wait, so while you've been, so while this guy who you've been seeing for three months,
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it's getting serious, you have been going on other dates during this time period.
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Yeah. When's the last time you were on a date with somebody else?
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Like, two weeks ago? Or at least, yeah, two weeks ago.
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Is it really that serious if you dated another guy two weeks ago?
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You mean, like, another date with a different guy? That was more than two weeks ago.
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It was like three weeks. With the same guy, it was two weeks ago.
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With the guy who you're interested in, that was two weeks ago.
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Okay, no, I was asking, when's the last time you were on a date with, like, a different guy?
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Oh, that's at least, like, four weeks, three weeks?
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Okay, so, I guess, so to answer your question why I'm a little surprised here.
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So, she's not had sex with this guy, and she's waited, it's been 12 days.
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But you have actually no actual objections to sleeping with people quickly.
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So, it seems rather arbitrary that this guy who you actually like, he has to wait for sex,
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but all the other men who are not worthy of a relationship, you gave them the pussy right away.
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I was at a different place back then. I used to be a serial dater.
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I had a lot more insecurities. I just wanted validation.
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So, if I can get men's attention, even if they're ugly, sometimes I'm happy.
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But now, I'm at an age where I feel pretty good about myself.
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I want to build a life, and I feel like my next person is going to be my husband.
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So, like, this has been... I've been doing this for a while now.
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So, I don't feel like I can't want to waste my time anymore.
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And it's not like, oh, I decided to be a good girl. It's not that.
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It's just I had enough trashy experience with men, and I got enough attention that I'm like, I'm done.
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So, what's the dating while you're with him? Does he know about that?
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I don't think he objects to that because I think we never, like, talked about it.
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If he's not good enough, if he's not good enough for me, then I can pick someone else.
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Before I'm committed in a relationship, everybody is fair game.
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But do you find yourself good enough for a relationship?
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You got to let her finish answering the question.
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If he's sleeping with other people right now, would that bum you out?
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But you're grabbing people's penises on dates to see if they're bigger than three inches.
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It's not that, oh, I'm gonna do that every time on a first date.
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It's like, if we are making out, and my hands just happen to be near his pocket, I mean,
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I might just grab a little bit, you know, measure.
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Why would I ask, like you said, and then love it, right?
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But I don't want to bum you out, but I'm gonna be honest.
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That guy, I don't think making out is that big of a distinction from sleeping with someone.
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If I was, like, going on a lot of dates with a girl, and we were really intimate,
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and we were waiting to sleep together because, like, it was really fulfilling to be with her,
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and I found out she was making out with other people, I would immediately never talk to that
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Am I the only one who finds kissing more intimate than...
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So I would find it more difficult if a man would say to me, I cheat because I kiss someone
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that would hurt me more than he sticks his dick in somebody, I think.
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I do, like, the adult industry thing like you, and a lot of, like, creators, like,
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if you're doing a collab with someone, I feel like...
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So you can go meet up with this person, and then you do the collab with whatever, like,
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corn star or whatever you want to call it, but they, a lot of them do not kiss.
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I mean, that's something I reserve more for somebody I'm actually interested in.
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Like, in a relationship, because it's, like, something that's more special for them.
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We'll get everybody's relationship status first, though.
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I had a very short relationship from one and a half months, two months.
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I didn't even understand him, because we had a different language.
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So I was just totally single without any interaction or anything.
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The rest, I just post, like, lingerie pictures, stuff like that.
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Personal videos, video calling, and stuff like that.
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Mostly because I want to see the earning of the other person as well.
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It has to be a little bit equal, you may understand.
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And I think it's hard to do a collaboration.
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I'm always a little bit scared that somebody will, like, fuck me over a little bit.
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And they will just post it earlier just to, like, get more money out of it.
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My longest relationship was, like, four months.
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And I've been single for, like, also four months or maybe three.
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The one that ended three months ago, was that the four month one?
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But you've had, like, situationships or shorter term casual stuff with other guys?
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I don't know if I would date a woman or not.
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I don't know if I would date a woman or not.
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As of, I guess, like, the beginning of this year, my longest relationship was, I don't
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know if you could officially say, like, a year, but on and off, about a year.
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Finally just kind of cut ties with him, actually, very recently, like, for good.
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Well, you said you've been single for nine months.
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So when you say very recently, you mean nine months ago?
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Um, we were only officially together, I guess, a total of, like, seven months, you could say,
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in between then, like, hooking up a little bit, but...
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So how many times, you said it was on and off, how many times was it...?
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You would end it, but then you'd go back to him.
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He's a serial cheater, and a narcissist, and a master manipulator, but I wasn't strong enough
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When you say, uh, narcissist and master manipulator, let's start with narcissist.
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So what, what did he do, or what was his conduct that made you believe he's a narcissist?
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Well, um, pretty much as soon as we got together, he moved in with me.
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Um, and I found out that entire time he had been, literally since day one, serial cheating on me,
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I found hundreds of DMs, videos, pictures, everything you could possibly imagine.
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I was just, I've always been curious about that.
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Um, what did you have to tell yourself to be okay with paying for everything for him?
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I assume when you guys were dating, you must've been 18.
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I mean, I'm assuming your parents had to agree to this arrangement.
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You just met him, and so how soon after meeting him did he move into your house?
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He had a place with his aunt that he was kind of, like, in and out of.
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Or, or no, he did have a place, but he ended up getting kicked out, and that's when he started living with me.
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When you, so, but, when you say he was living with you, he was there every day, spending the night?
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And both your mom and your father live in this house?
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And, wait, so, okay, how long after meeting him did he, like, kind of start moving in?
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I mean, this is a failure on, no offense to your parents, this is an absolute failure on your parents.
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Like, there's no scenario if I had, like, a, if I had a young adult daughter living with me, that I'm letting her boyfriend move into my house.
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Listen, they've been through a lot with me at this point, like.
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How I've, all the ways I've traumatized my parents in my adolescence.
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Um, we can start with, uh, I got kicked out of school for doing cocaine when I was 16.
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And sent to the wilderness therapy, which is actually where I met this lovely lady.
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We went to the same one, but then we ended up getting sent to a therapeutic boarding school
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in Montana, like, 10 miles south of the Canadian border, like, literally butt-fuck nowhere.
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Wait, so you went, you guys met at boarding school.
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And you were, you guys were both, like, 17 at the time?
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What was it that got you landed in boarding school?
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I had a very bad, very sad, bad attempt to run away from home.
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And I, the reason it didn't work is because I brought, like, four garbage bags of, like,
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items, because I, like, really wanted to make it work, but in the end I was too prepared.
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Like, like, took me 45 minutes to walk, like, it should have taken me, like, 10.
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So you got down the street, is what you're saying.
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You tried to run away, and you were, like, a block away.
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They can move fast with a stick in the bag on it.
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You got caught trying to run away, and then that's it?
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That's why they sent you to boarding school, or was there other stuff?
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Oh, well, there was stuff leading up to that, like, generally, like, risky behavior.
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Like, just, I would just, like, want to, like, go to San Francisco at night.
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Well, at the time, I just had some, like, personal issues that I probably wouldn't go into.
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I, not to interrupt everybody, but I want to know more about this guy.
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And is somehow so cool that you're like, get into my parents' house and let me buy you
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So he has no house, no money, and he's hooking up with a hundred girls.
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He cheated on me with her, his dad's bridesmaid.
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But I mean, had you guys had conversations, you'd only been dating a month, were there any
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actually overt conversations about being monogamous?
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Like, I'll take anyone, not anyone in, but I've taken friends in before.
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And he didn't have anywhere to go, was the thing.
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You know, it wasn't like, oh, we're so locked in.
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It was like, you're struggling and I want to help you.
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I'm just shocked that the parents allowed this.
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Just touch somebody's dick and let him wait three months.
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This is the on again, off again one for like seven months or whatever.
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Well, after he cheated, I was like, get the fuck out.
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My parents didn't really have any involvement in that, but...
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Technically, he legally had renter's rights and shit.
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You can tell when you can't trust in a relationship.
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And I was at times, but I tried not to snoop because I wanted to trust him.
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She always knew he was a narcissist tough boy, but she liked the bad boy and it was okay
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But watch, she'll still go back to the midget if he slides in.
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So that's what maybe you could consider within the realm of midget.
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You said that one of the things that landed you in boarding school was the use of certain
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I wasn't like hooked on anything, but I was doing stuff here and there.
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And I'm just curious, like you said your parents are still together.
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It's been rocky, but I actually have a really great relationship with both my parents now.
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Because some people have good parents, but they get in with the wrong crowd.
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My household hasn't always been perfectly stable and healthy.
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So, in any case, you've been single for nine months?
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But have there been any guys in the picture during that nine-month period?
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But I've had some, like, flings, hookups, situation kind of things.
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You do not know who's a boy of a good life right now.
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I don't even, like, have one specific person in mind.
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So, I'm just trying to be careful with what I say.
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If you say you're being careful, anyone who's dating you watching this is saying, uh-oh.
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I'm talking about the one I'm, like, through with.
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okay i'll say more of v in the v not p in the v oh v in the v wouldn't be more like well i guess
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and v on the v yeah i'll work out as well as it does it should in theory all right that's cool
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and um completely honestly but you get the point and then just going back to you really quickly
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is there anybody currently in the picture at all somebody you're talking to
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um i i actually did download hinge so like i'm on there um okay so there's a guy you're
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going out on dates with or no one or anything like that no one in particular like i'm kind of
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looking ish but like not okay seriously so there is a guy that you're seeing and there's not and
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doing drugs no i'm kidding all right what about you oh i'm single right now and i think i've been
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single for like a year and a half probably okay um and the longest relationship because i am pretty
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young i feel like if you consider like my adult like serious relationships probably like six months ish
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um which was like the one that ended like a year ago and he i found he was cheating on me with boys
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um and transsexual women or yeah women and i'm fine with that i told him like i told him like
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because i'm a i'm bisexual and i'm an open person and i'm down with that you can experiment as much
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as you want and it's just you have to tell me right and i and i made that very clear and i i was not
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expecting it at all but one night it was it was like the night after his birthday and i was looking i was
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going to go send the pictures to myself but then i opened the phone to go um send the pictures to
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myself and i see in the like recent apps grinder and so i'm like opening it and it's like an anonymous
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profile and he's like texting all these people it's he he gets he gets a lot of people in there
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there was like bing bing bing bing bing like so many but it i don't know how long it had gone on for
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but he was like cheating with me with his exes too and i did not suspect it like i am we both trusted
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each other a lot and i was like so into this man and this man was so like i don't know so
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more fan donated two hundred dollars hot panel tonight all right jay more fan thank you man
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appreciate it they're talking about you brian yeah i think so too okay sure but he was like so
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into me and i would never expect like i was like we were from the day we met we would see each other
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like every single day he's we were so clingy with each other because i'm a very clingy person even
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though i do adult content and stuff i'm a super clingy person i'm a lover girl i'm not going to hook
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up with somebody if i'm filming with somebody that's a little bit different i'm more looking
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for someone in the adult industry so that we can both like be mutual because i'm not do you know
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how many uh people he cheated on you with uh i know that he's met his ex-girlfriend because she sent
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me pictures of him in like i bought him like this solid gold chain for his birthday yeah and there's
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pictures of him in it in the picture so it's like i know that that's pretty good times and i was also
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like the same thing you spending a lot of money on this man i'm like a sugar mama for all the men i
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date did you get a chain back no i just let him keep it i just let him keep it i don't and you like
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it a little bit too like what like spending yes i'm i like spending a mom i like submissive men i
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like spending money on men oh my god can i date you can you be my sugar mommy i'm open to dating like
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i guess i'm not i'm not the kind of girl that's like oh i want a big macho man i'm like
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if you're just normal and natural and comfortable and it doesn't feel forced i'm not opposed to
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anything like you can be one of those like men it's like oh i work with my hands i can like fix
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cars all that i'm not opposed to that at all it's just that i don't want those guys it's like if you
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have to tell me you're this like alpha bro it doesn't it's not natural it just you're telling me
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i don't want the energy or you have it or you don't this tracks by the way that you're like i don't
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like masculine men anyway my boyfriend had sex with like nine guys
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wait yeah because you said you said you like i like i like submissive men i like whatever like
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but did he ever like did you peg him no i have pegged men but i but not um not him not him wait
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is he a top or a bottom he's the only one he was always a bottom like with the dudes with dudes
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wait did you know he was bi no he he still won't admit it he tried yeah was he there what is a
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bottom for a woman uh he just sits there and doesn't do anything it's kind of awesome that's
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how i like it all these guys if the men when you were doing videos was he there as well when you
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are backing other men was he there in the room as well like oh my god i want to have some of that
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so i've been doing like i guess more professional stuff like this was a content trip for me um i've
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been doing content trips because i'm in college i do it when i'm on school break but um back
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then i was just filming with boyfriends girlfriend or yeah so i was just filming with him at the time
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and he was fine with that he i didn't i took down all the videos with like prior uh partners and
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stuff but it's new for me to film with like content creators and i am looking for like a partner that's
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also in the industry because it creates a lot of issues i'll meet a guy i'll be like oh i really like
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this guy but then it's like it comes down to it's like i'm not gonna break like stop my job for you
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because it's like realistically i'm gonna date you for like six months because we're i'm 21 like
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you know what i mean so it's not that big that deep for me to stop it and it's like i feel like
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you shouldn't have to change yourself for a relationship you're coming into because i already
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do adult content it's like i it's it's not that different but sure what what do you want out of
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a committed relationship then if it's only six months like what's the what's your like goal
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the goal for me is not to end at six months but it's like realistically speaking when you're 21
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how long do your relationships last like i'm probably not going to marry the people i'm getting right
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if you are going to run a 5k and you tell yourself i'm not going to win this you're probably not going
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to win well i mean i go into it obviously being like i'm so crazy i mean i gotta be like i'm obsessed
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with this man i love this man and i the intention of course is to date them for like a longer period
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of time but like i really like this man i was spending so much money on him of course i was
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intending on dating him and the night i went through his phone and i saw the grinder on there it's like
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i did not expect that like my whole world was just like rocked because i was like devastated i did not
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see him cheating sure i didn't expect that at all do you think your desire or your like mindset of
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being like well realistically it's just a way to protect yourself because you fall deeply in love
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with people and you desire intimacy and connection and you're like well they're going to leave me in
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six months and i'll say that to myself and then it won't hurt as bad i feel like most of the
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relationships i'm in i'm the one that leaves but it's because they did something like cheat on me or
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something and it's like i can't like i can't stay with you and i honestly if he was if he just was
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going if i just saw the grinder in his phone i would have stayed with him because i he has a lot
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of i think some like sexual trauma where it's like i he still won't accept that he's bisexual
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and i'm fine with that i'm fine with him being bisexual exploring that but i'm not okay with you
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one not telling me and two like cheating on me with your ex that was the that was the extra thing
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because i was finish up please but oh i was like oh like um it's okay like we can explore it but
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then i saw the other girlfriend i she she sent me the pictures so quick question for the panel the
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entire panel if you were to be cheated on would you prefer your boyfriend cheat on you with a woman
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or with a man starting with you neither you got no you gotta have to choose you gotta pick um
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probably a man also let me double let me uh double dare i don't know uh if he cheats with a woman
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would you prefer that she's more attractive or less attractive than you if he cheats with a woman
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yeah so would i prefer that she's more or less attractive yeah
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i think everyone would prefer that she's less attractive right who knows what about you less
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attractive preferably a man okay i prefer a woman and she can be prettier to me it's fine you'd prefer
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that yes okay unattractive if it's a woman and a man if between the two because i'm very jealous
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so you'd prefer the man okay what about you definitely less attractive woman but
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also been cheated on with like everyone in the world what the other question what was the other
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question you'd prefer if they cheat on you with a man or a woman oh honestly i a woman okay i'm less
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attractive and then probably a man because then i feel like it's not something i did wrong they
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they're not getting what they need from me because they want a man i would hope he cheated on me with
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a man but i don't think i care if it's a more attractive woman i kind of hope that i walk in on
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it and i get to see it yeah i saw that yeah i saw that i definitely prefer him to cheat on me with a
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man because i'm very jealous and yeah that would destroy me and then she definitely can't be prettier
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than me uh in the reverse i guess this is for the ladies but obviously i don't know in a world where
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i'm a i'm a lady dating a man i would probably want him to cheat on me with a man i guess but if i was
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dating a woman and she cheated on me uh it would be horrifically devastating either way but i guess
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another woman sure because then i don't have to go to jail
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nice um and then uh if she if uh she were to cheat on you with another man you prefer better
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looking than you or worse looking um i would prefer better looking for sure because if she's slumming it
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and then cheating on me with someone who's worse than like what what does that say about me but then
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at least you have to be like she's nothing on me like at least that's not how it works you're
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still taking there's nothing you're making the l feel better because i have to make myself feel
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better my mind just cheated on me i need to be like at least you know but darling why though
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why do you have to make an excuse for yourself to feel because i'm already gonna feel shit now
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but who are you to judge about somebody else's appearance that's shitty as well i'm gonna feel
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better that she's why why would you make an excuse for yourself just go to therapy get a drink
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i i would feel better all right uh what about you um i would say a woman and more attractive
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even though i am the jealous type just because if he if it's a man then there's a lot that he's
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hiding from me that i didn't even know about in the relationship on top of him cheating
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so yeah all right i just feel like he'd probably have been in denial so i'd understand more like
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you were trying to just you know do what you were supposed to do and you can't hide it
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relationship status i'm in a relationship i've been with my boyfriend for a year and two months
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but it's not my longest relationship my longest relationship was two and a half years
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all right cool what about you i am single at the moment um i feel like i'm really bad with
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time stamps everyone's like one year and two months it's like over it yeah i'm like oh i don't
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know what day it is today but yeah i've been single for like um a year over a year but um i was
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like seeing someone not too long ago i feel like i'm always in situations whether it's just dating
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or even just talking and i feel like it's a phone relationship like so intense um yeah so i feel
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like i'm always like longest relationship i feel like my relationships are always like one year two
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year so the longest was two years two years yeah okay shane what about you um my longest relationship
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is three years i was married once uh yeah uh not a good idea on my part and i did not understand
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what marriage was when i did it but um and then i am taken and i'm going to be kind of intentionally
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vague about this because i have not one but several stalkers right now who are pretty wild
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sure yeah that's fine it's unfortunate but it is what it is sure what about you i am married
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and the longest relationship i've been in was six years was is well yeah so you're current that
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yeah current husband yeah got it and uh when did you get married last october so you guys been married
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like about a year yeah yeah yeah congrats all right and you were 21 when you got married um
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i think so no 22 i think oh no no yes 21 21 21 okay 21 all right what about you brian yeah are you
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single are you seeing anybody well much like shane because of uh stalker and threats to my
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life i'm not disclosing right okay uh any sort of relationship details so um so it's hard out here
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having a dating dude yeah i don't know people are crazy and by people i mean women on the internet
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oh it's not just women for me but oh dude heck there's some weird but do you prefer men or women
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oh i'm straight oh it's just a question no but when i was talking about men i was like there's male
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stalkers yeah yeah they're they're all although it's mostly women yeah isn't that interesting how
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you get the 100 dms a day type thing yes anyways um so uh let's see we got everybody's relationship
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status i'm gonna read we have a one chat we got to read oh hold on bucky larson other than paying
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less taxes i don't see any other benefits to marriage as a man ladies what do you bring to
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the table to convince me and brian to get married we'll get into that in just a sec thank you bucky
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larson for the message and i'm just gonna read this other one that just came through and then
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we'll get back to bucky's question uh appreciate it man uh way off base the headline reads local man
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robbed wendy's with an alligator i stopped and said out loud what did you just say to me
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shane smith is funny as hell thank you oh by the way i've seen your stuff uh i've seen your stuff
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before it's very funny man thank you i appreciate that and uh are you uh doing any shows here in
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california while you're out here no i came out here as an excuse to surf and so i saw i was like i'm
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gonna come to santa barbara and do some stuff yeah nice nice well salt lake uh i'm not from
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salt lake but yeah i'm in utah we'll say that okay cool cool so by the way robert tanner thank
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you for the gifted memberships i think you sent in 50 a little bit earlier man really appreciate it
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back to bucky's question so he asked he doesn't see any benefits to marriage as a man ladies what
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you bring to the table to convince me and brian to get married well one question before we get into
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that uh just show of hands who here wants to get married show of hands so that's yes yes yes yes
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that's everybody except you well you were already married so maybe you had a bad experience
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uh and then who here wants to have kids one day no kids
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okay all right was that a kind of no no i'm just putting it down in a weird way okay so um
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and you you said you want to get married right yeah okay got it uh so bucky larson asks uh i guess
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i'm kind of the soul man out here besides uh peachy peachy peachy uh don't want to get married
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you guys do want to get married i'm ready for you guys to try to convince me
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why i or other men should get married like any takers first of all i don't know why do i we have to
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convince you to get married right if we have to convince you have to convince me then it's not
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gonna work we're gonna get a divorce that's 100 the case you cannot be convinced to do something
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you don't want to do you convince him to get married then he's committed to the idea now he
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commits to so he changed his mind because i changed his mind permanently and then the relationship with
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the woman and he commits to her so you're not convincing him to like walk down the aisle tonight
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you're convincing him to acquire the mindset in order to get married and have a successful
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marriage the only way i can see a hundred percent guaranteed commitment of a guy with a girl is if
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i pay you a certain amount of money we have a legal document say if you cheat on me you're gonna lose
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a toll or something then i think you're never gonna cheat and you're gonna be committed a hundred
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percent i don't think that's how that works there are spies there are people who risk their lives to
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betray the people who pay them money to like like there's men aren't motivated that way it's more
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likely that a man cheat out of commitment than like some man like trying to like hunt him down in that
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in your situation if that makes sense i'm so sorry i don't i don't know sorry i guess it never mind
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yeah i just feel like that's the only way you can guarantee a man doesn't cheat that's the most
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likely way how do you guarantee it physical bodily harm no no no no threatening him with signing a
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contract contract legal binding and like monetary value because you cannot convince love i cannot
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convince anybody to be committed to me but i can have a legal document say you cannot say this shit
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you cannot do this shit you cannot touch another woman that is more bounding and more likely to
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find a good person that's true but they want me to convince them i don't know if they're a good
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person or not your plan has flaws i for the first entire half of my life i broke the law for a living
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like no one a contract isn't going to make a guy obey the prison is full of people right now they do
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not care about contracts let me ask you a question if you don't want to marry this girl and she wants
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to convince you to marry her is it more likely that you cheat on her or is it more likely that you you
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betray the contract in this scenario where you you just proposed i agree that man shouldn't you should
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just not be together yeah exactly so but there's a question phrase that we need to convince these two
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people then these two people are not in love with oh oh no no the question isn't to convince them to
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marry each other or for bucky to marry brian which would be awesome but uh it's it's to convince brian
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of the cons that the concept of marriage is good and he should be open to it that it's about more
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than just taxes like yeah why would he be open to marriage why is it such a wonderful idea to get
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like peachy why don't you want to get married yeah i am not so cynical that i say i will never get
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married again i have been burned i will go into it with a lot more thought so when next time around
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do you there are you open to a relationship question whatsoever am i i yeah i want to find like
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my soulmate sure so you are looking for the man you want to marry you're just saying that it's like
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that you have incredibly high i would be very hesitant i would need to like just wholeheartedly
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believe that this is the one this is like meant to be yeah but that's but you desire to me that you
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want to have yes so you do want to get married you just you just want prince charming to do it which
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is fair that's fair i wouldn't be able to like convince someone because i don't even understand all
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the rules and what everything would mean and that but i just think it would be so nice to meet
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someone we adore each other so much we just want to do everything that's possible have kids get
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married like my mom and dad have been married for like 36 years and i think it's the best thing in
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the world and i think you just have to naturally want that with me i can't tell you oh no because
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if you marry me then this and that i don't even know yeah that's my point like you can have
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convictions yeah why don't you want to get married i'm just curious yo robert tanner thank you for the
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gifted 50 memberships man really appreciate it good to see you in the chat uh so why don't i want to
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get married well i guess let me lay it out like this so my view is absent some both partners having
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a religious worldview be it christian or muslim or jewish or whatever it is i actually don't see
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from the secular viewpoint actually any reasons at least from the male perspective and i suppose it's
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not even so much the male perspective as it is the breadwinner perspective i can't i don't actually
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see any reason to get married like if anybody can make an actual secular argument and i don't i'm
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not sure this is a super christian panel to begin with but i can't think of any actual benefits to the
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man or to the breadwinner when it comes to getting married at least that outweigh the risks so for me
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personally there's nothing that i can get in a marriage from a woman that i can't get in a monogamous
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long-term relationship yeah i have a hot take i think might change wait hold on let's let her
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answer then i'll let you go sorry i'm just gonna say so have it's follow-up question actually have
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you ever been in love before sure yeah okay yeah let's say everything was fine and dandy with that
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relationship you wouldn't want to be married with that person even though you were in love with them
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until this day well i'm not sure that's really uh i don't know if that's really an argument like
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you love them thus you must marry them but if she wants to be good enough compared to like because i
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mean something that i think about is if you're not committing to marriage you're open to other
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options right well aren't you open to other options even if you're married of course yeah okay
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so i mean marriage does not preclude one from infidelity no what about uh ritual marriage your
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issue is legal marriage what if you were with a woman you loved and she said no papers but let's
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go have a priest or like a guy or someone marry us well i would have to actually investigate what
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the law actually says to that would there even though it's not through the state are there any legal
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implications to even getting a purely ritual marriage if not it's perhaps a little more enticing
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but then i um i still don't really see the point yeah there's data that shows men who are married like
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live longer have better outcomes long term and are healthier but i don't i can't like say that that
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doesn't also apply to a long-term very committed monogamous secular relationship why is everybody so
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kind of the cheating stuff i hear everybody say you know we have to have a contract you have to do
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this and this isn't marriage about a wonderful loving commitment like the man is the man like
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typical speaking you are the man of the household it's like what you're saying very manly the woman
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is in her feminine state together you get married you have such a wonderful pact together such a
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wonderful lovely powerful thing you can give that on to your children you can be the woman you can be
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the man you can still be the breadwinner but just like out of love why is everybody here so afraid
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oh no yes i have a contract for cheating and stuff if a person wants to cheat he's going to cheat
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sure yes but i think marriage should be about love and everything that's wonderful what's your point
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your argument usually is you can get most of what you can get in a marriage outside of a marriage
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correct i want to bring this to the table and it's probably a crazy thought but i think men
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in a marriage should have reproductive rights if you if you actually get married legally you should
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be able to have a say on whether or not your wife can get an abortion or not i don't think it should
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be like you can just decree she can't or not again but you should it should be more of a conversation
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you should have rights well i mean i so in this hypothetical scenario where but i mean that's not
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an argument that really doesn't pertain to the well no no hold on that doesn't pertain to the
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conversation at all because that's not the law as it's fair so in a marriage a woman should just be
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my slave legally but that's not the case i'm not that's not what i'm advocating for but that's not
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how it is can i don't see how it pertains but i do believe what you're saying i believe that a man
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should lead in a marriage i don't know but i i'm more so making a criticism of yeah she's saying
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well men should have this right in a marriage but they don't and quite frankly they never will have
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that so it's kind of like yeah wishful thinking but if it wasn't can i convince you for me well but
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okay so you're saying the the wife she wants to get an abortion but i don't want her to yeah you'd
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have more of a right to be able to wouldn't that be such a mismatch of values that that would not
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be the type of woman for me to yeah i guess i just think of the scenario of when a woman's like
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yeah i'm ready to have a kid and then they get scared after getting pregnant and they freak out and
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make a rash judgment so if you're as a man if you're pro-life and the woman is pro-choice that's
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just an immediate mismatch of that's of values so i don't think that it would even work in the
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i appreciate what you're saying but i think that in practice it is kind of like inter i don't think
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that would be it'd be a whole ordeal for sure yeah but uh go ahead so um you said that you can get all
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the benefits without the marriage it may be true and if it's true what essentially you're saying is
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you're selfish you're not willing to give out any part of you for a woman because you can get all the
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benefit but marriage might be a financial security and legal security for this woman so this is exactly
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why i say you cannot convince you we can never convince you because fundamentally if you're
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selfish i can't convince you to do something unless there's a value i'm providing you with which is
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some kind of contract or money or let's say i'm a billionaire and you really want to be
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like a 500 this is a hypothetical situation then i'm like oh we're dating and i'm like okay you have
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to marry me in order to get certain things then i think i could convince you but if you just if you
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can get all the benefits without marriage why would you do it that it's against human nature and it's
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not possible why do you think it's selfish if a man doesn't want to get married why is that self
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no i don't think he's protecting himself maybe he's just still a very good provider he will still take
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care of your children he will still be there he will take care of everything why is that selfish if
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the girl wants to and he doesn't want to isn't that selfish from the girl because he's pressing him
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if he's still a good provider for the children at home isn't that selfish of the woman to pressure
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him you say it's selfish of the man if he doesn't want to but isn't that selfish of a woman to say
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i want it otherwise i will leave you it's like a threat right it's not not fair it's also a little
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bit selfish it is but we're trying to convince him right like the question is how to convince him
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you have to be fair you have to be fair i'll actually and i'll get you in just a sec i'll
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actually say would i marry a female billionaire without a uh what's it called that's the scenario
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in which i'll get married that's like a way to convince you right if someone wants that she's a
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billionaire i will marry her yeah to address your concern it's okay to be selfish i'm not saying like
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oh you're selfish and it's wrong i'm we're i'm talking about the topic of convincing right i'm just
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saying this is the way to convince someone who think of his own interests and there's no good or
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bad there's no judgment on that but do you not think it's a little dangerous because you say i
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want to have a contract when i have everything i want to have like a prenup thing if i married a
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billionaire where's the love then because you will only get married if there's a contract thing why is
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it not the beautiful way why it's always i have to provide you this and this and that and that's
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why i want to get married because i'm saying this is the way i will use to convince him to get
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married not that i'm saying this is the best way i'm not saying it's good to convince someone to
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get married but the question is how would you convince someone do you understand my point but
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why do you want to right like i think i might have something that before i have you go you had
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something go ahead yeah so um the way you're framing this question almost is like why should i get
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married if it doesn't serve me in any way and ultimately like it doesn't change anything about
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my relationship to this person i've been seeing long term or feel in love with my question would
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be what's the harm if you're saying it doesn't really change anything anyway why are you scared
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to get married how is that is that a money thing well that's not what i'm saying i there are risks when
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it comes to getting married yes there are and so that's my objection to it but i'm asking you i guess
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what are those risks that you perceive so there's a couple so there's uh one untangling a marriage is
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complicated so from the financial aspect uh not just what the the woman ends up getting out but
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the legal costs in and in and of themselves are going to be fairly substantial uh attorneys charge quite
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a bit if you're the breadwinner you're going to actually have to probably go ahead and pay for her
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reasonable man donated my chinese wife says the value in marriages the strength and security i
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provide money and the rest is meaningless lot of broken thoughts on this panel be better
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okay thank you appreciate it appreciate it unreasonable wait is this grid one is this grid one
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how do you have security without money you said that money is meaningless how can like that's that's
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a very stupid point that's a question for you unreasonable man so the financial risks you have to pay for
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the attorney uh you might have to even pay for your wife or soon-to-be ex-wife's attorney if you know
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there's a mismatch in your her financial resources and yours uh there's the time the stress of
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untangling all that and then there's going to be what she's owed right so uh anything even with
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prenuptial agreement often these prenuptial agreement uh agreements tend to get challenged
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by the person uh typically the woman who's initiated who's typically also initiating the divorce funnily
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enough um so for example kevin costner uh he actually his divorce proceedings were here in santa barbara
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he had a prenuptial agreement with his wife and in the prenuptial agreement it said if you challenge
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the prenuptial agreement you lose xyz and then she went ahead and challenged it anyways uh so even with
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like uh potential risks of challenging the prenuptial the lawyers will still do it because they can maybe
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try to weasel out of it whatever uh even with a prenuptial agreement it typically only has to do with
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assets or money that you got before the marriage but everything you got during the marriage really can't be
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as far as i know i could be wrong not an attorney this is just from my research prenuptial agreements
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can't really do much when it comes to what's earned during the course of the marriage so if you've been
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married 5 10 20 years for example uh everything that's earned in the marriage is commute community
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property so then she's just going to get half of everything earned throughout the course of the
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marriage uh i think that this actually will lead to a marriage can actually lead to a greater
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likelihood of the breakdown of the relationship because if she's just dating you and she breaks
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up then she potentially loses any of those benefits that she has from dating you but if she breaks up
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with you and she's like oh now there's a financial incentive to break up with you i'm gonna get x amount
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of money then it's actually like pushing her towards ending and ending the relationship so uh for those
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sorry that's pretty much i really i really agree with you i want to say that i watched this soft white
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underbelly interview with this divorce lawyer about all the advice he's giving and it is true that
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getting married is an event that is most likely to cause distraught and harm in the relationship
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and the benefit and uh no one motorsports donated two hundred dollars yes that was me sorry streamlapse
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got me men provide security be a incapable and competent even when i was not well off my wife was
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not concerned because she had faith in my ability to provide yeah great one thank you man appreciate it
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this is exactly what i was saying if you have a man who still take care of your children provide in
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every way is marriage not really necessary sorry uh security isn't him having money it's him not leaving
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you when you both have no money yeah comment meant emotional security yeah just to kind of continue
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with the point i was making for the so i think i agree with you because like i think half the marriage
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and in divorce and among the half that's not divorced most of them are unhappy so it's like actually it's
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better off if we don't get married that's true but i do want to get married i think it's just like a
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personal thing sure i did have one thing to say sorry i'm so sorry just one last thing that's why
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i was addressing to you i'm like i also have the selfish desire to not get married also so i'm not
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saying it's good or bad to be selfish in like we want yeah yeah yeah yeah what's your thing i um
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i have been through this um experiencing times where like being married especially in the military you
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can't live with them unless you're married um and there's a lot of like
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legal issues with that like if you are not in a legal marriage the government doesn't see them as
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like an extension of you you can have trouble with like power of attorney stuff and like you know
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finances like i wouldn't be able to if i was not married to my ex-husband i would not be able to call
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his bank and say hey i need so-and-so unless i'm married legally is he still in the marines no oh
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okay i was like you talking about his infidelity it's illegal isn't it can't he be court-martialed
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they they can yeah but yeah okay it's illegal to cheat if you're in the military yeah you have to be
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really yeah that's great isn't it the chain of command usually tries to
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yeah okay back them uh wrath psa says to the first lady the marriage that didn't work out he was
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alliance wasn't he probably a gnome mage oh gosh no mage that's funny um i don't think he was cool
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enough to play well oh okay we have a chat here from bilium the mars hey thank you man for the soup
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chat the bible tells men to only get married to a woman if they are struggling with sexual immorality
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read one corinthians seven one nine i don't think that's real at all i don't think that's real
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uh bilium the mars thank you giovanni is that shane smith finally some catholic representation
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purge the heretics brother nice that's funny all right giovanni appreciate it man um oh we got the
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oh loose energy donated two hundred dollars brian walmart adam 32 is embarrassing himself
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marriage is a total l 304s initiate 80 percent of divorces and most guys lose all their
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shit i ain't i ain't fucking losing mine kiss my ass fuck y'all bishes
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where you been bro lp where you been shoot me a dm on instagram or discord lp shoot me a dm on
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instagram or discord we have another chat coming in here real quick we've got grid one grid one
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motorsports donated two hundred dollars and one cent thank you man give me a call when you get a chance
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tomorrow okay and just because it seems relative how many of the panelists are feminist do not be
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shy the patriarchy is here to help yeah we'll ask that really quick actually last thing on the marriage
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thing then we'll move it on to this uh and some other topics going around the table if uh when you
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do get married are you going to take your uh husband's last name are you going to hyphenate it
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it doesn't matter to me yes no you'll take you'll take his last name well it depends on the name
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that makes sense let's say it's a terrible last name but he's like i want you i don't know but
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he's like i want you to take my last name no ifs ands or buts how's it sadistic because like what if
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your name is like doofenshmirtz what's wrong with that take my name even though it sounds just
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like stupid yeah so what would your solution be well if it's a bad name he takes yours create
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our own hyphen some people are mixing it should be the superior last name
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that's fairly subjective the coolest sounding last name i see how they could descend into some
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kind of like racist thing okay okay um what about you i'm keeping mine you're keeping yours my mom
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kept hers i'll keep mine okay what about you same with my family i mean i'm not opposed to taking
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the last name if it's really bad i have kind of a weird like my real name is kind of weird so if it
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if it didn't go well i might keep it and most of the women in my family do keep their last names but
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if it's a man that's telling me like i'm not gonna marry you if you're not taking my last name then i'm
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not gonna be with you like that if it's that big of a deal i think that like i should be able to keep
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it if i want to okay i love my initials but i'm gonna take his last name
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i love my name so much i've literally got it i've got it tattooed on me
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kofi and my family are the best family in the world i would definitely want to put both of our
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names and anyone i've ever dated they would be proud to be a kofi okay we'll have both of our
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names shane what about you i will be keeping my own last name thank you very much but that's so
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like no i wouldn't i wouldn't marry someone who wouldn't take my name yeah there's no way uh you're
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married what was the um definitely me taking his name you took his last name and can i say a couple
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of things before we move on to the next topic or do you just is it related to the last name thing
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or more to about the whole marriage in general okay hold it for now but i'll let you okay i'm just
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confused with this whole last name thing so marriage is sort of i mean it's changed a bit
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but it's a traditional thing so i'm like do you guys for example those of you who said you want to
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like if the last name's not great or you're like for sure gonna keep your last name whatever
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or you have hesitations about taking his do you want him to get down on one knee to propose
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do you want him to propose period i'm i don't know let's start over here um
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do i want him to propose if i don't want his last name no just in general do i want do i want a guy to
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propose you want him to propose as opposed to you proposing well i would prefer if like i had the
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kind of option but like i feel like well of course you have no no yeah no of course i just feel like
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um it's like traditionally you know so i mean but i don't really care yeah what what else is
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traditional about marriage that it's usually involved with the church no but you said traditionally
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the man will like be the one who proposes right yeah yeah like in the culture okay yeah what else
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is traditional when it comes to marriage um i would say having kids it's traditional what else is
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traditional um the dress going taking the name yeah yeah so okay what about you do you want a guy to do
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be i say f the norms i could get down on my knee he could get down on his knee she could get down on
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her knee i don't care but um yeah your argument is that you know i'm saying i'm a proponent for
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marriage i want to get marriage and that's a traditional practice in itself yeah well i kind
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of don't view it that way which we don't have to get into but you don't view marriage as a traditional
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thing well no i do but like in my mind i'd marry somebody because it's a it's me showing my
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commitment to them you know like without all the financial stuff and all of that like it's
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i view it kind of as a gesture what is what are you what is what are you bringing in order to show
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the commitment because you don't take their last name and and you're not like into the the traditions
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or whatever so what is it exactly that you're well you talk about how there's all these risks in
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marriage with losing money and different things if there's divorce well not necessarily for men you
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said the breadwinner that would be the woman whoever it is there's still risks on both sides both people
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can get hurt both people can lose material things and by willing to take those risks that's showing
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your commitment to each other and i i just want to be able to call somebody my partner one day
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you can call your non-married person your partner wife or husband and not be lying you can still
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call them that can i though yeah sure yeah okay well you could if you think so but um that's my opinion
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but what is it i mean couldn't you just make the reverse argument that a woman who's willing to stay
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with a guy despite her uh her desire to get married but she's willing to commit to him despite his
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unwillingness to get married isn't you can just make the same argument she's showing a greater commitment
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to him i'm willing to commit to you i'm willing to commit to you despite this thing that i want
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because i want to be with you enough that i don't need that isn't that a commitment
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i yeah that's yeah you had something and then i'm going to move it on from the marriage stuff go
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ahead um i was just going to say that i think just the general marriage topic of in general um
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i think it is a really big deal um i don't think that it's not just a like oh you can just you know
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be with people and not be married when you are choosing to be married you're choosing to get the
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family involved you're choosing to get legal with this stuff you know you're saying you're supposed to be
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submissive to each other and i think taking that leap kind of shows hey men wait men are supposed
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to be submissive to their lives like each other like you both are like humble with each other you
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both listen to another you respect each other you believe that i don't even know if that biblically
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that's correct are you religious not really men are supposed to self-sacrifice you want to be equal
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i don't think men are supposed to be it's not submissiveness it's it's a willingness
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i'll say that a willingness um it's a willingness on both sides and it's just a huge leap to say hey
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i'm serious about this because if you're if you think about it if you're with somebody boyfriend
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girlfriend you've been together for let's say 10 years living together everything you're involved
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with the family you can just get up and leave like you can just be like um okay and that i don't
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know to me it's kind of a red flag when someone says they don't want marriage because they're not
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willing to take that extra leap to actually determine well but here's the thing so you said
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that if you've been dating for 10 years the person can just get up and leave well hold on you can do
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that exact same thing if you're married you have to go through and i mean so basically it's we are
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staying together under threat of lawsuit isn't that a terrible reason to stay together with somebody
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yeah but when you're getting sorry no go ahead yeah no you can i was just gonna say when you are
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choosing to marry somebody you go in with that idea already that you know what you're getting
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yourself into you know what i mean well i think a lot of people are actually naive and they don't know
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the financial ramifications they don't it's very it's actually very easy to get married it's much more
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complicated to get divorced yes that's true you can go to the courthouse i think i don't know if you need
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witnesses or signatures you can do that instantly to unwind that is a much more lengthy and expensive
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process right but who wants a marriage that's just like oh let's go over there sure i mean it's
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probably there's a little more thought that's put into it but the actual process is a bit more
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simplified uh but i mean getting a divorce is very easy all in the sense that i mean it's it's
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complicated but like it's easy in the sense that you can just go do it yeah just nothing's stopping you
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from doing it there's just extra steps i would say that you really have to come well i would rather
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like if my girlfriend wants to break up with me and she wants to break up with me i'd rather just
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later yeah i don't want you to like oh man i gotta do extra work to break up with them i guess i'll stay
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with them nah if you're not about me that's why like if a girl ever threatens a breakup to try to get
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like some like uh if there's something a problem in the relationship we can have a conversation about
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it the minute a girl starts threatening breakups and that it's over yeah i don't play that where
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we're gonna be like on and off again you're gonna threaten that person well we can have a conversation
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about the issue but if you're using a breakup as leverage yeah later imagine this you married a
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girl you got her pregnant she had a baby and then you cheated on her with another woman three months
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let's let's do the ariana case you don't know what happened and then this man is a piece of
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shit doesn't want to give any child support can just leave without any legal document so those women
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have a baby because she is in during her like uh leave so she doesn't have any pay and then she
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loses his job her she lose her job and then she's just all alone this man is giving her not no security
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but if they're married the things will be different no well it's okay hold on you're bringing the
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children thing into this so whether you're married or not the amount of child support a woman can
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receive is irrelevant to whether they're married or not so for example if a man's income is a certain
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amount or whatever and they're married okay or they're not married oh it's the same she'll get
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the same amount of child support okay exact same yeah so but what's different though like the money that
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you made during the marriage well if they were married and the relationship ends depending on the
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the length of the marriage she could be she could get uh community property you know earnings that
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were accrued during the marriage and then potentially alimony depending on how long they were married
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oh okay so if you're a dad it's like your job to pay yeah i didn't know that child support child
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support you don't need to be married for the woman yeah the government will garnish your wages they'll just
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take the money from you and give it to her yeah i see okay that's good that's one more thing yeah
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sure um when you get married you don't have an end in mind when you're just dating somebody it's
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a possible 50 50 that you have an end in mind do you know what i'm talking about
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nah you can still get out of the marriage there's always yeah i think if you're in the right
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relationship you don't have that in mind you just don't no matter what situation you're in married or
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not i think that there's an intangible quality to marriage where it deepens intimacy the same way
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where you're like oh hey don't sleep with other people we're official and that person becomes your
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girlfriend or whatever and then there's a sort of strengthening of your bond i think
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maybe women feel that in marriage more and that's why men are so like hesitant to it but
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i mean that would be my argument it's not money or any of these other things it's like an intangible
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sort of intimacy that deepens the relationship further that you're looking for but maybe you're
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not looking for that but it when you're talking about that is that it deepens it further for the
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more so for the woman as compared to the man it's in the relationship as a whole
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i almost wonder because don't don't you also shane don't you also hear these stories of
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guys who do get married and then things start to change yeah worse yeah yeah one motorsports donated
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two hundred dollars and one cent imagine being married for ten years and just deciding to leave
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and abandon your relationship which is a sin and the wages of sin are eternal damnation to hell
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seems a legit trade-off i don't believe in that wait you don't believe in no i don't oh i do
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well you're cat yeah yeah you can't get divorced right no we can't get divorced and even my first
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marriage which was when i was a secular prometheus 73 donated two hundred dollars yeah thank you
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for me if you want your man to get down on one knee will you bow for your man i'll show the video
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brian show the video okay hashtag don't get married i'll pull it up in a sec thank you man
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appreciate it uh go ahead oh oh yeah i mean in uh when i first got married i was like a secular person
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and same thing to you i was like i don't understand the benefits of this i don't care about religion i
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don't believe in god and at the time i just did it to make her happy which was the worst thing i could
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do obviously that's you know been annulled and whatever the catholic church handles that in a certain
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way but yes i believe when you get married you can never get divorced which is you know raises the
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stakes and makes it a much more intimate act between you god your community and your families
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i think it's crazy that you can get married at 18 yeah you can get married before 18 actually stop
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yeah yeah parent permission what yeah not do that in the netland so
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you could join the army when you're 17 baby who all right what are we doing you know we got robert
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tanner here hey thank you for the message man appreciate it and thank you uh grid one and
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prometheus too thank you guys discord gives a seven out of ten right now also someone mentioned turn
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your stove off lol wait what also taking a last name was part of coverture it was a protection for men
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and women protection interesting uh thank you robert tanner really appreciate it man um
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um oh the bow video uh nick can we get the bow video going okay is this gonna be a bummer no
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this is kind of like what i think like this first part here is would make for a good relationship
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boom huge bow i think i think i think i think the the lady the woman should uh hit the man with the
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bow with uh you know i prefer a curtsy we need wait hold on we need isis for this segment she's gonna
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have thoughts on this she's gonna have strong thoughts we'll we'll wait for isis is she just
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weren't she it's interesting oh no she is wait are you watching it isis no okay we'll play the bow one
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more time and then uh okay i don't like that she's gonna watch him eat that's a bit intense that's
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right it's just like does it taste it's like when someone watches you open a present you're like
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don't look at me i actually love this though i actually love this here nick just the bow segment
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so this is uh it's for isis so go ahead play it yeah you're gonna you missed it oh boom huge bow let
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it play for a few sex huge okay cool um what about it yeah so uh of somebody sent in the super chat
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asking uh if you would bow for your man going around the table would you would you bow for your
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man i would bow for my man okay how much would you pay nothing then no no no you wouldn't bow for
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this guy you've been dating for three months no if i'm not getting anything i don't want to do it
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then what do you need to get for something i want like money yeah money is one jewelry is one
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one orgasm is one whatever we want you know okay wait i'm a little confused because actually we'll
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pull this up a little bit we'll pull it up later go yeah yes i will do that i will also do a courtesy
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i will be on my knees for this man if he's providing he's like the man in the house protective
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safe take care of the children yes okay yes if he deserves it and also i have an argument for
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or or against what was the question before what's your tattoo saying again press gaibu almost see
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there it is we're press gaibu-ing all over the place yes uh you have an argument
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oh sorry the marriage what is it okay so well it's not really for men like it's for women and um
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um i feel like women have more of a risk or in in not in marriage but in regular dating because
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like we were talking about actually i don't know if the live started when we were talking about this
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but we were talking about women and estrogen or not estrogen sorry testosterone and um
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um uh what's the love drug called oxytocin so if women release more oxytocin then like that's also a
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argument that's used to say that women um like get more attached so they should so it's like morally
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worse if they have higher body counts which i disagree with but i i would say if you think that
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then women are at more of a risk just dating so it's kind of i think it kind of levels the playing
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field and i mean we have we have the child so it's wait so you're are you kind of saying when it comes
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to dating or marriage because women tend to love stronger or be more like emotionally invested invested
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that that that is the one the the risk that's on the woman's side yeah i mean and thus men should
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face financial ruin no not ruin it's just evening like women are risking like dating you wasting their
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time well women women feel more because often not always because we have some examples but often
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they value feelings over like money and these other things and so for you that's like a bigger risk but
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for men they often value their work and what they've gained and so for them that's a bigger deal
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so you're just doing the like men are for mars women are for venus thing where you both have a very
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serious thing that you care about but neither of you are understanding the other one's position
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yeah i would say that it's even though i would say it's not predominantly i would say it's not predominantly
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like men are just ruined by marriage they're just ravaged by it and it like you know
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i just think it's like more equal like it's what about when there's a guy who's cheated on how
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so how's it more equal because in the beginning if a woman is dating it's she's at more of a risk
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how so because of because she has the baby she carries the baby so the men the the a man can have
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children without actually having children so women if you're to commit like how could you avoid that
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problem childbirth is really the leading cause of death so i agree with you on that but wait so but
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i'm hearing two different arguments here so there's the risk to the woman if she has a child with this
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man but the man leaves her um but then no not not like the like afterwards if you get divorced you'll
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be taken care of as a woman but if you're not dating okay but so removing the child component from
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this what is the argument oh well the argument is also that if women are biologically have like
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more attachment and so yeah well i have a bit of a rebuttal to this so there's a couple things so
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when it comes to women being more attached um to men or whatever so women overwhelmingly initiate
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divorces eighty percent of divorces are initiated by women because you guys suck well you cannot say
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that you cannot say hold on well let she can say her whatever it's fine she can say it i mean
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disavow disavow i mean it's misandrist but she can say it yeah of course she can okay so hold on so
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okay uh secondly when it comes to like just breakups in general i don't actually know if it's the case
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that women like women fare worse i mean maybe we can go around the table on this who do you think
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like uh when it comes to breakups who goes through it worse can i say something very quick on that
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very very very quick okay go ahead because i hear every woman here on the table like oh we are afraid
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of cheating men suck la la la we are more afraid we are more attached but what about a man and man
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needs to work and man needs to provide that's a lot of pressure on a man that's a big risk for the
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men as well i hate men are cheated men are this and that yeah what about i only hear about that argument
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when men every month bleed every month and then go through period pain every month and have to take
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contraceptives and have to go through all these if men does that let's talk about all these
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other men work like 80 hours a week a man works 80 hours i work 80 hours okay so i do have to engage
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with her on her thing that's a separate conversation so okay so i guess question for the panel do you
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think who fares worse in breakups men or women i hear that women get over a lot quicker than the guy
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actually do you guys and the other female panelists do you guys agree women get over breakups quicker
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it varies i think that they really get in their emotions but they get over it quicker i'm upset
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because the questions keep not getting run i keep i still want to tell you that i still want to really
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tell you that i would love to bow to my man anyway proceed it's so hard for me to not interrupt and i'm
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like so being so patient i'm doing very well you know and i'm like so next time i might just have
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to interrupt president we'll come back to that but so i need to wrap this up with her so go ahead
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the the question that i posed what's the question is everybody oh we're doing that all right
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sorry i didn't think you were going to go back to us like this
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but um i yeah i already answered actually but so okay let me ask you guys a question um just to
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get through this as quick as possible so uh of all the people that you've dated short term or long
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term more often than not are you ending things or is the guy ending things starting with you
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it's actually 50 50. okay i would say the same 50 50. yeah okay 50 50. this is cap but okay uh it's
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i have yeah 50 50. are you guys just gonna be sheep or you guys historically it's been the other
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person but ending things okay me i think it leans more towards me relationships me situationships
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them shane what about you more often you ending it's me you ending yeah it's me okay so i mean
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we've asked this question tons of times on the show women overwhelmingly end relationships so this idea
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that like women get more attached well how could that actually be true once it's not clear to me if
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men are actually commitment phobic once women do get commitment women overwhelmingly end yeah
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said yeah exactly robert tanner donated two hundred dollars women are always more at risk in the
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relationship you bring life into the world you are the gatekeepers the modern laws are now skewed
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against men for women to become equal relationships destroy yeah thank you robert tanner appreciate it
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as far as men and women and how they handle breakups i think that men it's a sliding scale as
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as age happens so young men handle breakups way worse which is why we become insane and then we have
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positions that are anti-marriage and stuff and then as we get into our 30s women take those breakups
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much harder yeah because we were ready for the long run yeah yeah and you're running out of time
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you know yeah this kind of thing that's fair yeah uh anyways um the bow video i guess going back to
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that would you bow for your man let us bow is that like a normal thing that people do in relationships
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i've never bowed to anybody in my life so would you though let's say he asked you to do it he showed
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you the video in a completely serious way yeah super serious he was he saw that video on my podcast he's
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like oh i kind of like that i'd like my girlfriend to do that would you do it like a submissive uh
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however she did that because i'm not into that you're not no into that okay all right fair um maybe
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ironically but i mean like i said i'm all these men i'm like you're oh sorry but um a lot of these like
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men i'm dating i mean i'm open to dating a guy that is does make more money than me and all these like
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breadwinner things and stuff but it's like why am i being super like submissive to you like seriously
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sure when i mean a lot of these men i'm dating they're not they're they're bowing but their
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boyfriend is behind them yeah i mean i don't want them to bow i don't i don't expect my man to bow to
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me i don't i'm you can just be a normal person i want to be equal to my partner or okay yeah absolutely
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i think i already answered absolutely i think it's so hot
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yeah i get that well this is for the ladies i would say yes because i also expect him to if he
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wouldn't do it then i wouldn't do it that's fair would you want your girl to bow to you
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would i want my girl um wait wait oh go ahead go ahead yeah sure yeah i mean if that was how
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she was expressing like some sort of like excitement or love or whatever i think that's
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cute i like it i mean i like to be greeted like if you get off i travel a lot if i come home to
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someone i'm with and they like open the door before i get there and jump on my arms and give me a
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kiss that's like the american equivalent i like that yeah yeah so you would expect you're married
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you'd want your husband to bow to you bow back yeah i mean not right then and there but i would
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expect him because i when i think about i think like oh only the woman is bowing i'm like yeah
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what's wrong with that i mean if he it depends the situation like if he's like hey bow right now
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because i'm telling you to what's wrong with that um i don't i don't actually see anything wrong with
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that no because what is wrong with that right away
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there's nothing wrong with that she's just saying i don't anything i don't actually think there's
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anything yeah there's nothing wrong i would just say yes sir and that will be on my knees
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i guess whatever you say daddy if it's more like on a like a deeper level i would think of it that
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way but if it's just like a what's up bow sure if you're both bowing to each other it's like you're
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about to duel in a movie like what are you doing then just get your swords out and go well was it
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this is like with the intention of like you are my inferior yeah so like there shouldn't be a power
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dynamic no if you if you're in a what if you're your partner i'm so horny right now i would do
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i said what would you do if you're if your partner your wife over there your wife or girlfriend asked
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you to bow to her oh would i do yeah no of course no of course not but you expect her to bow for you
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men and women are different i don't think i want a man who'd bow to me we're like i wouldn't want the
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man to bow to me yeah i would i would it's like just the dynamic yeah it's the dynamic i
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no i would not bow to her would you ask a man to build something for you that's a good one
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if i needed help maybe if they had extra hands and knew how to do what they were doing but here's
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a question here's a question for you so do it myself then yeah so here's a question why is it that when
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men will have expectations of women those things have to be reciprocated but when women have expectations
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of men it's very rare that there's an expectation that women also reciprocate that behavior
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because the expectation we have on you is pretty small wait so but about
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basic but what's the wait hold on women's expectations are small like pretty normal we
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want compare i don't know earlier you were like he has to make money he has to be funny he has a
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good personality he has to be bigger than three inches like i had a brain fart i had a brain
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fart can you like repeat the question again uh so well it's more it was more so of a statement
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uh-huh can you say that well so okay i was saying that she was saying when i was like oh i would want
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my girlfriend to do a little bow or something when she greets me yeah she was like well would you do that
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back because there's an expectation there when men want things men also have or excuse me when
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hold on how's the framing here if a man wants something he has to be willing to reciprocate that
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to the woman if he wants it but if women want things it's not clear to me if there's an expectation
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that the woman has the woman has to reciprocate that for example if a woman wants a man to pay for
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first dates well or will you pay for first dates yeah that's really a rare uh reciprocal expectation
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i think your statement it's a one directional expectation your statement is saying always i
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don't think that's true i think women want certain things and men want certain things it's not like
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it's not like oh you i you have to reciprocate and no but she's saying her those kinds of things you
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preach tradition that sounds like tradition i don't really preach i do but i
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i feel like i feel like i preach it a bit i think it's very telling the people who would bow and and
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the idea that if you wouldn't because you think it's demeaning says a lot about how you're interacting
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with the other sex and how you feel about them and how you allow them to feel about you because the
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fact that you instantly think of you bowing to someone as being somehow disrespectful or demeaning is
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like that never entered my mind for a second i thought it was like a sweet sign of respect
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as opposed to like a demeaning thing to submit yourself to someone is not to demean them that
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would be like if i was like oh i have plans today but my girlfriend needs me to help her move or
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something and then i cancel my plans that's technically a submissive act but yeah it's i'm not being demeaned
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because i love this person and i respect them and i'm giving them their due okay i guess i just think
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that's somewhat of a strange comparison like bowing if somebody asked me to bow to them it would just
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kind of throw me off a little bit i don't know that's not you're not dating a japanese man
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that's exactly where i was going oh okay cool i saw a comment it said bowing is a sign of respect
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in asian culture that's probably very true that's not something i've been exposed to it's not super
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normalized in america this fucking giga chad robert tanner donated one thousand and one dollars
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champagne yo you're a legend robert tanner appreciate it man question if we have no tradition
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what objective truth are our relationships based on anything relative of the current time
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it seems very dangerous donated a thousand and one dollars robert tanner you are amazing actually
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you donate a lot it seems very dangerous you are an amazing man like a paper towel or something
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you are an amazing man thank you all right uh robert tanner uh uh you're you're a hold on let me play
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this shit to robert tanner he's a brave and a decent man he's a pioneer appreciate it dude appreciate it um
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um and also hold on let me play one more i'm a fucking legend you sir you sir you're a legend
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uh oh last just to move things on a little bit here i do have to move things on from the
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bow thing but i guess here's my argument right is when it comes to this whole bowing thing and
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i'll actually grant to you it's like it might seem a little surprising because at least in the western
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culture it's out of the norm yeah but in terms of the actual ask it actually takes really no effort
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from yeah woman but i guess what confuses me so like a guy could ask his girlfriend to do this
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or even a girl you just start seeing and she might object to it for feminist reasons and by the way grid
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one i will ask your question here in a moment she might object to it for feminist reasons or uh i don't
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wanna what is that but like the same woman that will object to a otherwise benign innocent bow
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within 30 minutes of meeting a man will suck his dick and let let her fuck him um so i just thought
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that's i'm not saying that about you i'm just saying that thanks i'm not i'm just saying like the girl
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like girls who object to the bow will fuck a dude within 30 minutes of meeting them you'll literally let
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the man inside you with his peepee with his penis but you won't just penis well i think it's weird
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that you sorry that you um that you don't want to bow but you'll pay for his life like you're doing so
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much more for him i'm not proud of it either like i think that kind of like the way i said
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thank you robert please i said the same thing kind of like with the i mean i'm not opposed to the
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bow i guess maybe in a rare case i'm actually a bow advocate you are as well oh my god we're gonna
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start a page about women i was gonna say it's everybody will be enforced i don't i'm so bad
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with the authority but my man i'm gonna do whatever he says anything else i will be so submissive for
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a man that provides i will do everything for that man i will lick the floor if he asks me to i will do
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that i don't listen to anyone else i guess we will start like an only fans for i'm not gonna do an
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only fans girl no no i'm not gonna do it just an instagram page wait what instagram page what will
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you do what will you do we're advocates for the bow yeah we are advocates for the power we will make
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an instagram with just women bowing no but what you said you would do something for a guy i will do
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everything for a man yeah if he's providing if he's protecting just really being a man marriage or not
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just providing no but what i'm sorry i didn't hear it so what would you do i will lick the floor
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if he asked me to yeah i would i would do everything he's the man of the household darling
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i'm your wife i will do everything for you oh yeah what no no no these two no oh my gosh
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babe i feel like i'm with a man because i respect him i love everything about him so of course
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i'm gonna do like anything to make him happy yeah otherwise i'm not probably with them we're not
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relationship in a relationship yes the bowing thing it's like you were saying like oh why would
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you not bow if you're saying for him i already think that that's like kind of like so if the
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man's not bound because he's like oh i'm providing for this woman and he expects and i have to bow if
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you're being like the masculine role you're being the one that's the provider then it would also be
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kind of expected that you wouldn't want to bow either because you're kind of supporting that man
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you know what i mean i think we have a little problem in today's society that women not every
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woman but women in generally want to like be very manly so like why would i have to do they're very
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like yeah yeah i'm aggressive about it because if i have to do it you have to do it why is it not just
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out of love you will have sees the pagan donated two hundred dollars yeah thank you example of women
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not reciprocating is in relationship the woman that day is not in the mood for sex hands off and
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rightfully so but if the woman is in few mood and the man isn't they get salty this sounds personal
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who hurt you what you guys are thinking of bowing who hurt you the pagan uh the who who got salty
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there must be this sounds like a very personal experience no what's he saying basically i feel
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like women can't take an l though if you reject them sexually really yeah that's probably true they're
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not used to it i feel like women are not i think they haven't handled i have been rejected sexually
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yeah they are not i just feel like i can read the room i don't think i'd put myself on someone
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randomly and they're like no like what what's going on over here what's going on over here
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just asking if she's okay if she's what we're just checking in if she's okay are you okay yeah i'm
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perfectly fine oh okay don't worry about uh let's do a little cheers to oh robert tanner yes thank you
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let's launch it all right cool um let me read two chats two chats we have curtis leone
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i love dependas those wonderful pill popping wives are crazy i used to watch them first fight at base
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housing dependa tell us about the sleazy underworld of dependa life blue porch light
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united states marine corps oh man thank you curtis i haven't heard that word in a long time
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um i i didn't really have a whole ton of friends um when i was a dependa so i wasn't really like out
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partying the parties that i went to we would host at our house on base and his friends would come
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over and everyone would drink they'd bring their wives so pill popping i don't know anything about
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that but i have heard some crazy stories about girls who chase guys in the military for the benefits
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all right we have kill of cereal here question for the panel what is the most embarrassing moment
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you've experienced on a date or while sharing carnal knowledge got a gun drawn on us by a gate guard
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because i went too far before turning around kill of cereal hey really good to see you in the chat man
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by the way uh wait have you sent me a dm on discord i don't know send me a dm on discord and uh i need
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to get you a role on our discord man appreciate it kill of cereal we need to we also need to do grid
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one's question about feminism um so i need really quick answers on this just to move things along but
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most embarrassing uh moment you've experienced on the date quick 10 second 15 second answer haven't
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been on a lot of dates but um my ex used to beat off in bed right next to me right word
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when i was sleeping at like 3 a.m every morning were you guys living together yeah it was my
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is that weird i mean at least wake me up it was like aggressively like aggressively and i i had
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had talks with him like grudging jack-off session probably i'm gonna be real i just i i had had
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conversations like go can you like go to the shower there's three bedrooms in this house you could
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literally go somewhere else because it's waking me up at 3 a.m okay so he's a he's kind of a violent
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masturbator yeah like it was a it was he was moving the bed this is a full body masturbation
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what is happening the bed would shake that's that's you've got to get one of those sleep
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number beds so that the wine doesn't spill you guys having sex um we were but i will say it was
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it was not a lot and there was a lot of reasons for that like i didn't feel loved i didn't feel
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you know it's a red flag in my books okay yeah you should date someone who doesn't masturbate
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then you don't have that problem i don't want to get into the details of this but sex with him
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was uh not good not and i'm not saying he wasn't good at it he liked
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to get pegged no go ahead no he just was just very like like just rough you know like not
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that's fantastic it sounds like my ideal man but you gotta have a little like a little mixture
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you know like it shouldn't just be that all the time we have the same type so
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it sounds like he has an unhealthy relationship with sex i yeah fair enough it sounds like a marine
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yeah yeah okay um oh embarrassing date quick answers if you can yeah so quick first date finish the
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date make out in the hallway before i leave he summer time thin clothes he came on me oh in two
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minutes were you doing the check no i wasn't even i wasn't even you didn't even get chance i didn't
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even maybe i checked when it happened that's how you found it that's how you found it yeah it was
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the cramped in my cock what the fuck that was nick um good the weirdest thing i ever had he came
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on my face and he didn't told me so i went down the stairs to my parents to get something to drink
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for myself but he didn't say anything my father was like
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oh wait is this a date story no i was like and he came on your face i don't know we were just there
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i don't know and my father was like what's on your face i was like yeah what's on my face so i
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got to the hallway and he was just sitting on the staircase laughing his ass off he's like ah
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this is so funny and i looked into the mirror and i was like oh damn it's kind of funny though but
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it's weird no so were you asleep what how is this humanly possible because i thought i had
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everything in my mouth but i wasn't and he just kept on going and i was like oh i finished right
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i already swallowed it and i just looked away for a second like all right swallow it down it's just
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in my hair whoa you got to do the mirror check so that that's what happens all right that's wild
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what about you i wouldn't do it at my parents well i don't want to like i don't want the guy to watch
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this and like be sad but actually it's for the better like good um yeah just a guy growled while
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we were having sex like an animal growl which animal yeah chicken reenact there we create can you
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reenact it's like oh my what is hey it's more like an anime kid growl than like an animal growl
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maybe he's just really into it you know you know uh okay yeah free yourself b i i had a similar
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story this one time this chick wanted to be like a cat really that happens was it cute or was it
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weird did she want to like meow for you like a full latex suit the way she went about it was weird
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like i actually wouldn't like if a girl that was her thing or whatever like if it for me anyways like
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if it turns her on like fine whatever yeah i'm cool with it i'll get into it or whatever yeah but
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like she just went about it the wrong way that she was trying to like be a cat and
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shit did she wear like a latex cat woman suit sexy with new boots on the red and oh my god
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actually that wasn't the weird part it was just like she was weird and then anyways whatever but
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so i i feel you like a furry yeah no it was just she's like act like i'm your cat what are you gonna
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do to me like that's weird anyways what about you is it supposed to be embarrassing for me or for them
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either sure either i guess okay well after i lost my virginity i got kicked out of the house
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at 5 a.m in the pouring rain with no ride so it's more just a little sad and humbling but wait
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oh my god you got kicked out of the house yeah because i'd like snuck it this was when i was
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younger and it was his parents house and his parents like woke up or something the parents
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kicked you out no they didn't but he thought he was like scared they woke up and so he made me
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leave so this is evil it's just sad a little bit oh good but i mean i don't think it's that bad
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like it was embarrassing for me i don't think he was being i just felt like kind of pathetic and used
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and embarrassed yeah but i don't think he's being a dick he's probably just concerned of like
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repercussions no he was a dick yeah take my word for it but i mean he's at his parents house he
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probably doesn't want to get caught so it's not like if it's not that big if it wasn't it didn't
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like traumatize me so question how long had you been seeing this guy this was like a one night stand
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you lost your virginity in the one night stand wow
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that's okay hey you know what it happens to the best of us yeah it happens it happens how
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out were you oh god that's okay girl 14 i should have lied wait did he know that you were a virgin
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yeah well it happened i was 13. how old i think he liked that a little bit no he don't worry he was
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only 16 he wasn't like oh was he though embarrassing story embarrassing catfished many a times like the guy
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will be like 30 but then the pictures of them when they were like 22 and then they're like
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way chunkier and their hair's bad and they look really bad yeah happens a lot so you don't like
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send videos or facetime um i i'm not no i mean i'm not like a snapchat person i think snapchat's a red
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flag but usually that's how they would send live photos i feel like and maybe not really in text messages
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okay weird that's that's wild so kind of like how all women wear makeup i mean
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looking like we're all just like human beings so sorry my like lashes are not naturally this long
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but i'm not insecure without my makeup i'll i'll take my makeup off i do i film content i shoot a
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lot of time with no makeup because i don't really care okay what about you my now boyfriend and i were
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headed home after a date and i was you know how you know making him feel good and i threw up on him
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on him oh no what what type what type into his lap like everything like he literally was just stuck
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with it this is just like 30 minutes just driving yeah it's very important wait it was in the car
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yeah that's too much to drink and he stayed with you right he's a keeper you should ask him to marry
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very much in love with my wife however if i turn her down for sex she gets salty just like she talks
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through something i'm watching but if i do the same i get the castration stare honestly i get it i
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i used to be that wife i love your wife yes i'm like that too keep her but now i'm better okay
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all right i can't think of an embarrassing day i feel like i go on dates all the time
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but um oh let me think of one ah i think i might need to come back to me no okay one time i went on
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a date and the guy like i had the script in my head it was the first time we was going to meet each
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of us i thought it was going to be all romantic and then i go to the place and he's like outside
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talking to some girl in the smoking area like i was like what like we're supposed to have you're
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supposed to see me for the first time and be all fantastic and then so to take the piss like when
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he went to the bar or something and came back i like started talking to a guy like missing about
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uh shane what about you um i was incredibly unavailable in my 20s was a woman i used to
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work with and we would like lightly flirt nothing crazy and that happened for months and months and
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finally she asked me out and i agreed to it so she's very excited we're gonna go on a date and
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she's sick and i'm like we can cancel and she goes no i'm not gonna cancel because then you're not
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going to go on the date so she shows up to my house to pick me up to take me to some surprise
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and uh she's like oh i don't feel well we got to stop at like cvs or whatever so i can get some
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i don't know medicine ibuprofen and then as she's driving she just started crying and then she pulled
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into a gas station and put her head on the steering wheel and began to weep incredibly hard like ugly
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crying and that's when i began to smell it that she had completely and utterly uh she had defecated
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herself uh so fucking disgusting yeah so hard that i was in the car like and then so she gets out of
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the car to go into 7-eleven to handle it and then i just opened the door and left the car running and
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escaped into the night i just ran home i was like oh my god and then i did work with her again and i
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we never mentioned it we just pretend it didn't happen what about you i don't have one she told you
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again okay uh oh two things really quick then next topic i was just curious about your tattoo
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that you have yeah this one so what's the story there it's not across it's a plus sign for positive
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vibes i think good vibes is literally everything it's like you turn your head that way so this
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camera can see me yeah oh there it is oh you look so beautiful thank you so much but yeah good energy
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you can literally like add to someone i thought you like killed somebody or something i catch myself
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even when i'm angry i'm like no come on be nice give them a good you know and wait question for
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isis here um about your name so um because i know a lot of uh people who um weren't born here for
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example typically from asian countries they'll just like adopt a name that's not their legal name
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do you have a different like a legal name that's not isis yeah i do have a legal name so what's your
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original name or um like it me it's on my tiktok so if you want to know go see that i don't want to
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announce it here the reason why yeah oh well sorry the reason why i have isis because before i came to
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u.s i was taking uh english lesson from a american guy from new york and he told me i was 15 at the time
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he told me when you come to us you need a name that people can easily pronounce so like let me
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give you a name let me just emphasize this is 20 2012 okay beginning of 2012 before i
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i checked i googled when you now go back to like that's your name by choice when you now go back
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to your real name but that's the thing like he he like he just called me one day randomly he never calls
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me he just called me one and be like your name is isis and i was like why why not or something if
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you're choosing something i don't know he just chose it for me it's like meant to be he said it's
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meant to be and then when i as i as was a thing um i actually called him i was like should i change
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my name because people have been making fun of me and he was like do you want the world to remember
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isis as a terrorist group or you oh so because positivity i want to bring the positivity to the
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world right okay okay i hear you so you're like the cheerleader of isis the happy vibe of isis
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no how do i have to see it like 200 years later when people read about the name or people think
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of isis if you look at history do you think they'll think of so you will be making his celebrity who
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maybe tell some jokes that make people laugh or a terrorist group so i'd probably just change it
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now yeah i think like do you think you would rather people remember the terrorist group but darling
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but it's a bit bigger than do you think they will remember you will you go into the history box yes i
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will because i have plenty yes i'm planning to build orphanages and i'm going to use my name as
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the name of the orphanage and that's going to continue and that's what greenpeace and everything
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is so that's my dream that's why i want to manifest it into reality is any problem with that but people
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might associate it with something else like you you know i see that you want to do good to change the
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narrative like it's not like oh i'm gonna change i'm just telling you why i don't want to change
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my name are going to be on the website of the true isis like oh my god it's gonna be difficult
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yeah isis wikipedia yeah is pretty robust yeah when it comes to you know what i mean my goal in life
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isn't to change people's perception of isis my goal in life is to be myself and then like my name and
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let the name represent me and everybody if i know you and you never knew a person named isis before i wish
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that after i met you in the future when you read the word isis you think of me instead of first
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start think of a terrorist group that's what i'm trying to say i feel like if it was my name i'd
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write till i die but like that's my but if i chose it i'd probably step back yeah you could
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have like on all your legal documents is it your other name it's preferred name usually they have
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in legal document they have a preferred name and a legal name on my legal name it's my legal name
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so it's like your artist's name yeah it's like my tiktok name it's like what people call
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have it ever crossed your mind like change it to like eyes or anything nice and spicy
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isis is also a band and an egyptian god i was gonna say
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it's basically the most powerful goddess um in egypt so that is what i'm named after i wasn't
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named myself after like the terrorist group yeah the name sounds nice it's like when people say did
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you see when people say oh wouldn't chlamydia be a nice name if it wasn't what it meant like
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isis just sounds beautiful i'd love to call my daughter but considering now it's like okay
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maybe we can't but it does sound lovely well it's tough to outdo a bad name though yeah there was a
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soldier that fought in world war ii with distinction very well and he did a great job and people loved
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him and he had the same name as a certain guy who was in charge of the third reich but we never talk
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about that soldier we just talk about that other guy so you're you're up against it i was just curious
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giovanni jd donated 200 islamic terrorist organization or demonic pagan god lovely british
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girl turn your tattoo into a cross or nozzle only acceptable face tattoos pink dress low-key gorgeous
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brian's a fake wall wait so what do they want me to do turn my face they want you they want you
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to have a cross or the tattoo i have on my face and they're being racist at brian well no thank you
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very much it's my face so obviously i'll do what i want yeah that's an italian it stands for without
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papers oh yeah why oh i was doing an italian like uh okay excuse me all right okay all right um oh
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grid one's question going around the table are you a wait let me just double check that was his
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question where is it grid one uh oh how many of the panelists are feminist going around the table
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do you consider yourself a feminist i believe yeah in the direct definition of it i believe in cerebral
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equality with men and women what is cerebral like mentally we have the same ability to work
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as a ceo for a company right um physically i don't necessarily believe that okay i think it
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depends on the definition of feminism i refuse to answer this question unless you give me a definition
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so here i'll i'll give i'll give one so move the movement towards equality or egalitarianism
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with an emphasis on uh or or no a rejection of patriarchy so movement towards equality with a
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rejection of patriarchy patriarchy is is is bad right it doesn't mean like it's like i need a
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definition for that too i'm so sorry english is not my first language patriarchy is when men are leading
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society generally oh yeah that's bad definitely that's why there's so many wars you see like
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like if a woman are in charge there would just be peace talks i don't know you think so
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no the most infamous pirate who killed the most people in the world was a chinese
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woman a lot of granddaughter killed like millions of people like the most outlandish example but they
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do happen a lot of vikings were women as well a lot of things women are very emotionally happen we
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will fight i didn't know that a rejection of patriarchy was in yeah i thought it was just
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rights equality for well i mean that but that's a really a core i think that the far like really
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hard liberals push a rejection of patriarchy mainstream feminism is a rejection of patriarchy
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i actually think it goes far beyond that but but so going back to so many thousands of years and
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our world isn't that much better i mean it's time to change it a little bit actually as the patriarchy
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has been weakening the world's actually gotten worse yeah because it only gets worse because
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i'm telling you really quick but so your claim that if uh i think you're saying well if women were
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more in charge there would be less wars yeah they actually did a study they looked at um female rulers
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and they did a per capita analysis they actually found that women rulers monarchs for example female
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queens were more likely to wage war exactly and that makes extremely perfect sense because in a world
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full of men when men are in charge in order to be a woman in charge you need to be all the men so you
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have to be more aggressive than all the men so basically you are acting like a man in because you're
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competing with all the men you know so you have to you have to win somehow but if in a world where
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i have equal opportunity where every position men and women are equally considered then that's if that's
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the definition so i'm not sure i'm prepared to grant that presupposition but um i mean isn't there
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substantial like for example in workforces that are predominantly female there there actually tends to be
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quite a lot of conflict in those environments where it's like mostly women in the uh workplace
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yeah you know there's a lot of like you know because men are in the world right now that has
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but no no but when women have all the power yeah if there's a company that's like predominantly women
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or all women there's like clicking up and like all this sort of like um what's that movie mean girls
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like they click up and there's like backstab i mean there's backstabbing in all kinds of corporations but
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there's a greater proclivity towards like backstabbing reputation destruction this sort of
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thing i mean you've been to a hair salon right can i say i don't know what do you all talk about at the
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hair yes yes it doesn't matter what you this point let me say this because what you're describing where
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oh all these women are all in charge what you're describing is ecosystem a small micro ecosystem that
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exists under the current society which is patriarchy patriarchy cause girls to be mean girls
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a lot of jealousy for us is caused by men they're inconsideration women i mean are women raised by
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other women more often this is the greatest episode of dr phil i've ever been on the idea that women
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have to cause more wars because they're competing with men doesn't seem like it's inherent to what
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men do it seems like that's inherently what statecraft is like war and competing for resources is just the
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human condition has nothing to do with gender you can't compute resources in a civil way donated
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two hundred dollars and but apparently i am the patriarchy and you know nothing of my work
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men built this world all the things you enjoy were built by men with the support of women who love
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them sure feminism seeks to destroy all of it if right now every woman died this race is gone there's
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gonna be no offspring whatsoever if all men died we're gonna be fine can we just stop why why does
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it always has to come back on the baby thing don't he asked like men build the world that's true right
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the world wouldn't even exist if there's no woman is what i'm saying we need each other this is the chicken
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in the egg yeah we need each other we need we need each other and we need to like fill each other up
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about it yeah proper also it's not the chicken because men came first i think as a woman religiously
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men came first because adam and then he was taken from his ribs so not his foot so that she would be
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below him not his head so that she would be smarter than him but his ribs so that she would collaborate
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right that doesn't make sense because men have x y chromosome women have x x chromosome right like
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it looks like you guys are lacking something now we're lacking something you are the rib that we
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took out all right should we just like continue yeah do you believe in feminism not believe
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are you a feminist yeah i think in the world we are living now no i still believe that men
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build the world and we as a women are different and i think we are great at being different i think
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that as a woman we have to look at ourself and think you know what as a woman we are great we do not have
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to compete with men we are great as a woman we do things different than men and we are great at doing
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things different why do i always have to compete with a man because we are different yeah we are made
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differently and we can be so great and so powerful at being different stop comparing yourself to men
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because we are not men we will never will be men just be strong as a woman and use your strength as a
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woman to build the things up as a woman stop comparing yourself to men you you're not a man and
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stop doing it stop saying hey i bring the babies chill down the men do their thing we are women we can be
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strong as a woman we can be seductive we can be beautiful we can do everything and as a woman if
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you support other women a little bit more not in like the aggressive feminist state just like could
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being a woman let the men be men let women be women women and just be strong as a women embrace your
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womanhood stop comparing yourself as a man and fight against when we have to do this we have to do that
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as a man let the men be men let you be a woman be strong as a woman first yeah chill down don't
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stop fighting men all the time i think women should just i think we have a problem comparing ourselves
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to everything like yeah but that's where the problem starts we as a woman if you truly that's
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if you look yourself in the mirror can you say like i'm very strong as a woman right now are you
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looking in the mirror like oh my god maybe i want to change this about myself i need to go to the gym i
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need to go this and this be strong as your own women first and leave the men being men yeah so
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let's get answers to the question though so are you a feminist did you you are a feminist
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a movement towards equality with a rejection of patriarchy equality of opportunity that's my
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modification because like i said you are i agree with you physically you know there's a lot of
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difference between emotionally too brain structure men and women are different so i would say equal
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opportunity and then destruction of patriarchy yes okay so you're a feminist if that's the
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definition i think i already answered it in a good way so was it a yes or in this society no i'm not a
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feminist yes yes i'm a feminist i'm a girl boss slave feminist i i can't be a feminist because
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feminists they say they want equality and then there's like so many things they pick and choose they
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don't want to be equal on so no that's what i meant in the way i'm saying yeah you know that
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that's what i was saying as well be strong first wait you said equal opportunity yeah like the equal
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opportunity to be drafted into the military exactly equality we keep finding equality is really hard
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because at the workforce i think women should have more rights at work for us and more leave it because
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we have to give birth so we have more vacation i i would suggest period paying vacation as well but
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like but that's not it's not equal yeah like i guess i guess i wish it's not it's not a man's fault
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you want to be rich one day right yeah so it's not his fault will you think perhaps one day you'll
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start a business yeah i will and you'll have employees okay so i mean if you're in the business your
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purpose for your business is to make money right i mean you said well women should have
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more time off and if they have their period then they should have time off for their period well i
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mean wouldn't this be like if if you're an employer how is this just not a liability for your business it
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is i think it is a liability i think in order for like can i ask you a question if you're having to
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pick an employee let's just remove uh gender from it entirely if you know that one employee is more
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likely to be reliable and be there whereas this other person they're more they they're going to
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be sick more often they're going to be less likely they're more likely to ask for time off wouldn't you
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as the business owner have a strong preference for regardless of gender hiring the person who's going
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to be there they're not going to call out all the time they're going to show up on time they're not
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going to be constantly oh i got to take a day off blah blah blah who would you prefer to hire as an
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employer now that you say it this way i realize i'm not a feminist i'm someone i want to give
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someone who i want to be someone who give more rights to women because what your question well
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that's wait wait no right so no let me explain something the way you said it if it's two employee
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i don't know if it's their gender then definitely i would pick the one with less reliability if i know
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their gender and the this woman requires more leave because of pregnancy or period then as a woman i'm
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willing to give her that leeway because i want like i said i want to be rich the reason why i want
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to be rich isn't it's so that i can provide the the love and care i want to provide to the people i
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care about can i ask you a very fast question you want equality so you want to give the woman an
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opportunity wait a second you want to give a woman the opportunity to get her days off when she's
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pregnant and everything else so if you go to the workplace and a man has like 20 vacation days you want
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the same right so if a man says hey listen this mom he cannot do anything about it that he cannot
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have children this guy god's way right so if this man is saying like she's getting like 20 days off
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in a year you're only giving me five i want to have 20 because that's equality right he wants to have
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the same so are you going to give that to a man the same thing that you are no because i literally just
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said i don't want anything about you just said you want equality of opportunity yeah so that's why
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i said uh robert tanner donated 200 thank you robert look in the mirror it exists outcome of
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opportunity you want equality of outcome separate but dangerous outcomes you are not understanding what
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you advocating for more individuals will be hurt i think this one thank you robert tanner appreciate
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it uh okay yeah thank you robert appreciate it man thank you for the tts uh let's get answers from
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the whole panel uh feminist where did we leave off mine i said no okay um just with the job thing
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quickly um i don't think it's about just who's more available just because the woman's going to be
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up for a period you know it's about who brings more yeah just because she's going to need a few days
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off she still might be smashing exactly yeah exactly that's not sorry it's not about oh who's
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available and needy you want the best person yeah but as for feminists i don't think i can say a
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feminist i don't know all the exact rules but i think i love that there's men and women i don't
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think we all need to be the exact same everyone someone might have more male energy feminine energy
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two different people bring out different things but i like the fact that the man is the man and the
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woman is the woman i like that so that means i'm not a feminist right not a full one all my employees
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are women i really don't have a problem at all but they they're deaf no they're not oh okay
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no they're not sorry sorry i had to do it i had to do it everybody
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yeah yeah yeah the comedian um i'm not a feminist if i was i would say feminism should refocus on
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equality and all these are the things that are incredibly intangible and difficult to define
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and sort of hard to do in society feminism should be about women finding what makes them more fulfilled
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and happy not yeah what i was saying right what i was saying but fulfillment and happiness has nothing
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to do with all that other crap what i was saying like being uh danica what about you yeah
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danica dominica oh dominica sorry it's okay it's a long one um i would say in this day and age no i mean
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what are we don't have to fight for anything right now i can do whatever you can do well can you though
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you know what i mean i have the right to the physical limitations yeah yeah yeah i have the rights here
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yes yes i'm not depressed all right we have curtis leone dependas used to hit on me they would tell
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me their husband was deployed one chick told me the relationship was open so i went to her house
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husband was mounting the neighbor yes i did it shaking my head okay sweet thank you
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curtis leone for that appreciate it my ex never deployed so uh really quick on the feminism thing
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so those of you who are feminists um oh can you say for just are you taking i just have i'll actually do
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your question really quick first then uh so where is it we have lauren uh you said guys pretending to be
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taller than they are what was your thing on that oh yeah no so i met someone on tinder my ex-boyfriend
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and he pretended to be like i can't remember if he said 5'11 and he was like shorter than me
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and i'm one of them girls i don't mind i'm 5'7 5'8 like i've dated guys shorter than me i think it
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like i actually sometimes prefer like the underdog because someone who's just big amazing they can get
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all the options they just being like you know on the surface i actually prefer just a random like just
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any guy like just a real humble guy so i actually don't mind if you're short about me what i do mind
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is that you lie to me so i'm on the first date looking for you in the sky and you're literally
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on the floor that's what i got a problem with but that's wild like i'm not gonna actually meet you
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do you know what i mean yeah like that's crazy yeah i'm going to see you yeah like i'm actually
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going to see you is it wrong for lying about his height of course
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yes imagine i pretend i'm skinny and i'm fat in their defense there is such a stigma towards men
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and like male height short guys get such a bad rap and like guys are fantastic amazing i've met such
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handsome fit like amazing short guys but there are there's just with the internet too you see all these
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like street podcast interviews and all girls are like he has to be six foot he has to make six figures
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like yeah that's wild how tall someone is is nothing to do with the 50 000 things i need from
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a guy yeah and that's just the simple thing this is the 21st century if you want to close my eyes i
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can't even see yeah but no lying like i'm a very honest person lying is morals yeah i don't care what
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you are what you do but you need to be honest otherwise we might as well not start if we're going
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to lie i'm going to pretend so it's a strategy that works for men though they lie until you're invested
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and then it's too late and then you forgive them for the lie that's a strategy people use in dating
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generally it's bad it's gross but it works i think as a woman you will fall in love with the
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things you hear that's why men lie and i think men fall in love with things they see that's why women
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wear makeup oh i've also heard a uh a man's face is his autobiography a woman's face is her work of
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fiction exactly you got me that's another one that's why men lie and women wear makeup right yeah or
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yeah women uh men lie by visual and women or sorry men love women fall in love with the things they
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hear that's why men lie men fall in love with the things they see that's why we wear makeup um i'll
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have a question for the panel about the height thing but before you go we have stifler ask everyone
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to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten you can't pick seven starting with isis six six okay
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then coming to you then we'll go this way i think i'm a five in the us two in the european countries
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okay i think i'm a six five six in my eyes i'm a ten closer to the mic if you can i would say in texas
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i'm an eight but in california i feel like i'm a six okay i'm like a model so sometimes i'll think
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i'm a ten like i can look fantastic but then i can definitely feel like a eight and a half i'm
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a two to most people but i'm an eight to the people who like what i have going on yes yes yes okay i would
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say i'm a five okay you don't need to have some more like you're not a six did you say six you're
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gorgeous oh thank you okay thank you stifler appreciate it uh so you're the only ten at the
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table i mean no didn't i say ten oh but yeah obviously but you have bad day you don't always
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feel fantastic you're an oscillating ken if i'm at the you have a bad day gross like but when i'm like
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dressed up i still and i'm i'm like fine like i feel like people like i don't know i'm not that crazy
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about the looks like i'm not one of those girls i don't need to wear makeup all the time same but
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even when i don't look my best i'm still like i love myself you know what i mean like i don't
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have to always be wearing makeup i don't really care okay um
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i think i look like pocahontas people always tell me i look like i've literally got it tattooed
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wait let me show you i literally got it tattooed oh only getting away with it because you're saying
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it with that accent pocahontas when people say that i'm like are you kidding me i think she's
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the best thing in the world so i mean i'll take it okay so yeah i'm happy around the table on this
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question related to the looks one do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time no okay
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yes i said so isis you are 27 yeah or 28 27 27 so you'll be better looking at uh 37 yes and
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do you think you're better looking now at 27 than you were at 18
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that's hard because i don't want to be 47 look at this clip and be like oh i thought i was ugly
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so yes i'll be more beautiful at 47 as compared to yes what about 57 yes 67 because by the time
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i'm 67 like my beauty will be oozing out of in my inside so i'll be really really beautiful yes i have
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to answer it this way it will always be a yes chiamina cascade 77 87 yes 97 yes yes yes yes you're
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not making it 200 yeah i'm definitely not making it 200 i'm drinking smoking everything all right um
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what about you yes i also think so yeah so you're 28 you'll be better looking at 38 than you are now
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48 yeah every 58 yes i think so let me just uh kind of re-ask the question a little bit here so
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the question isn't will you still be attractive when you're older that's not the question uh the
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question is compared to now will you be more attractive in 10 years yes i think so yeah i think
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about 48 maybe yes and then after that no okay 58 no no okay and you're 28 are you better looking now
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at 28 than you were at 18 absolutely yeah absolutely yeah i was obese when i was growing
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up i lost like 40 kilos as well okay and i worked very hard for it i didn't have any operations do i
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do that a bit very hard working and stuff like that so yeah well assuming and mentally i feel prettier
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well all else being equal assuming you hadn't been obese at 18 would you do you think you would
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have been more attractive at 18 than you are now no okay uh you are 18 do you think you'll be better
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looking at 28 than you are now um well like to who men in general i guess men in general yeah no no
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okay most attractive now then what about you you're 19 do you think you'll be better looking at 29 than
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than you are now i hope so okay what about 30 genes to like through you're asking to men
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or even your own self-assessment sorry i thought you said that but i did but people sometimes i think
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men just like it younger so sure it through the eyes of a man these are probably my peak years but
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mm-hmm i hope i still like myself when i'm 29 but do you think you'll be better looking attractive
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yeah okay 39 let's go with that um no hold on 39 no okay so peak yeah late 20s okay what about you
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yeah i think men probably they say now because like even in the industry like even in the industry
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already i feel like people they're like creepy about it so they want to cast me as like a little
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like college girl because i'm a college girl but um wait why is that why would that be creepy
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because they like the younger ones even if they're like 60 what well why would that be creepy because
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you're closer to being a minor well no you're but you're not but i mean i've been doing content since
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i've been barely over 18 so i mean they've always been like that and even as i've gotten older i'm 21 i'm
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not old at all still people will be like oh yeah exactly still people are like oh like you're
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getting old and it's because men are creepy and they want you to be barely the men who buy that kind
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of content exactly are interested in that are creepy for sure not all men but i think isn't there like
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a graph that shows like men as they get older they still prefer the same i think emotionally mature
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men wouldn't prefer small like younger i think emotionally mature men will find two young younger
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women kind of like immature yeah and they would be wouldn't have the sexual attraction like imagine
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something in my opinion so much younger when i'm when i'm 31 i think i'll probably look better in my
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eyes though just because like i feel like i'm always improving like i get lipo done soon i am like
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always improving myself i'm getting stomach lipo i'm getting my boobs done soon oh that's so that's
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so nice yes i'm getting everything done if you want to know anything i've done 80 of myself
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i love it i'm still one they're great yeah they're wonderful oh my gosh i didn't yeah i wish i have
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those i understand so if you want to know anything about it i've done like 80 of my body top to toe
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i want to upgrade so if you want to know anything about it i'm just going to people uh what about
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you uh i do think i'll be more attractive and you're 27 right yes so more attractive at 37 yeah
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based off of how i've been going so better better looking at 47 no okay and then were you better
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looking 18 as compared to how you look uh now no i'm better looking now okay what about you um i've
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always been fantastic i'm joking um i think i'm probably probably better looking now ish probably the
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same i feel like as i got like a bit older the same and i'll probably start going a bit downhill
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in about five years okay so you're 30 not better looking at 40 then no a few more wrinkles and a bit
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and then were you better looking at 20 as compared to now at 30 no probably the same or maybe a bit
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more like womanly now so okay yeah and then uh dominica you're 22 better looking at 32 or i think
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i'll be better looking because i'll have my life in my hands more because right now i'm like a slave to
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school i can't really be a gym rat if you want to have kids though right yeah aren't you going to be
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a slave to kids that's true yeah so i don't know i mean i hope i can find a balance i guess okay what
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about 42 better looking at 42 um not better looking probably the same as you look now as i was as a 32
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year old so you'll be so so better looking at 32 as compared to 22 but then you'll be the same at 42
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and still better looking than at 22 what about 52 no okay brian what do you rate yourself out of 10 i
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give myself a five do you think you've got better looking now or you i was better looking when i was
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younger really i want to see pictures rude you didn't ask me i'm just kidding i'm just kidding
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it doesn't matter you might be a silver fox it's like no i'm a man of course i'm going to be better
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looking when i'm yeah i think that'll be the limit at 47 will be then i'll start to be and you'll have
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like 10 more years of like comedic practice sorry i can't talk and you'll be funnier so you're like
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even more or more annoying so all the women at this table so every woman here do you also agree
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like men age like fine wine i think that women prefer a mature man and i think there's a lot of
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reasons for that but men age so beautifully they get a men look for younger women i think women
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has been pretty bad like the the king's the king's son william no no like george clooney
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and so look they are really good but like men age like fine he is good fine men are great men are
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grain uh we're gonna play musical chairs here a little bit so i'm gonna have you four just move
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over chairs and then we're gonna actually wait hold on is that gonna work uh is that gonna work
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hold on i'm gonna try to kind of figure out how i want to do this
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she's already kind of get up uh actually honestly is she going away then yeah she had to leave
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actually i think we just remove this chair remove this mic what yeah is this number four nick yeah
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sorry guys we're just fixing the chairs here uh is maddie strong enough to yeah she's an independent
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woman woman all right and then um shane what yeah you could scoot over a little bit maybe and then
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just put it on the ground thank you man you want me to unplug it or anything you want me to just no
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just leave it we'll mute it on our soundboard sorry guys we're just uh readjusting a couple things
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here do you think we could all tiny bit scoot over that a little bit so it's easier for me to go to the
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the bathroom maybe then she's yeah i'm just more into the picture we can have you guys move let me
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just look at the picture as well yeah it's maybe yeah we'll be able to move over a little bit so
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maybe just move over a teeny bit more into the picture musical chairs here guys thank you for your
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patience here while we're getting this figured out here in just a sec i'm going to get into some of
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the pre-show notes finally here uh there's a lot to get through so we'll try to do it as quick as
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possible um okay she just walked in on her in the bathroom oh no good times good times so let's
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get through some of the uh show notes here uh actually really quick just on the whole height
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thing going around the table just how tall are you and is there been excuse me bare minimum height
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for a guy you would date i am five foot two um i think bare minimum height would probably be like
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four eleven for the guy yeah that's like i don't mind dating like shorter than me but like you know
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there's there i'm pretty short so it gets into the realm of like you don't have a preference at all
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or no okay what about you isis um mine i always used to say like six feet minimum but then the guy
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i'm currently dating whom i really like is below that i used to say like guess what i call guys
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below 60 tall manly friends yeah they're my friends so but now i'm dating someone i really
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like so it's like i ate my words it's a curse how tall are you how tall is he i'm five three i don't
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know how tall he is but i know if i wear is he gonna watch this i don't know i i forbid him anybody
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from watching my stuff i hope he doesn't yeah wait you forbid men from looking at your tick tock
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yeah interesting like the guy i date that's gonna make them want to do it so much more it's crazy
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how much more he's gonna want to do that if they want to do that they do that but then they can't
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come to me and be like i can't believe you said abc because i told them not to and they agreed
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so it's like they just have to hide that inside of them honestly though like they just absorb it and
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die inside a little bit yeah as somebody who did a uh a decent dive into your uh tick tock
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they should probably watch that uh oh they should watch that a meme for what
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for the height oh uh yeah we'll pull it up i'm five seven sorry i don't
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it's true yo chart i just want to say thank for the gifted 50 subs go ahead i just want to say one
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thing i'm not afraid if he watches it like not at all if he really loves me and obsessed with me
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even if i tell him not to peek and he peeked and then still decided to be with me that's the one you
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know like if you can't accept me for me then that's not the one so then why waste your time
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yeah just be like hey yeah give him all of you right away no psychologically that's kind of bad
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because humans tend to like look for the negative in a person at the beginning so at the beginning
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it's better to ease into it be friends that's why i don't do physical things remember earlier when i
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was like you can lie and slow drip the truth and then they'll want to date you even though you
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weren't remember over time yeah that's the same exact process there's a difference between lying
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and you know just you're lying by omission no that's not true because they i'm not handcuffing
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them be like no if you watch my tiktok i'm gonna something you but like i'm just they can watch it
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you know a relationship is learning about somebody i'm literally being open with him being like right
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now i don't want you to see that side of me so let's take it slow yeah so when i'm ready you can
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check but if they chose to check it it's not like i'm gonna sue them but this would be like
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if a woman had like i don't know it's you know she had done something wrong and she's like hey i don't
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want to tell you this because you're probably not going to want to be with me yeah if you see it well
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then just break up with her on the spot and trust that you wouldn't want to be with her if you saw
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those things you said if you're the guy you would break up yeah yeah if you said that then do it i know
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that's it's just so interesting that yeah so what was his reaction when you told him that okay i respect
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that interesting yeah there's a very healthy boundary between us yeah and that's what i've
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been practicing and inside that boundary exists the men's penises who you're trying to see how long
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they are definitely because that's my boundary i would love to touch their penis and they would
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love to be touched by me they do they do you're right so why is that a problem so going around the
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table on this what's your height bare minimum height for a guy for you to date i do not know what a
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feet thing is what you guys do i'm 175 centimeters and what do you want to have an answer on how what's
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the minimum height of a man you would date actually i do not judge on heights i always wear heels and
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if he's fine with that i'm fine as well if he has like a natural manly dominant era above him i'm totally
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down with you i'm fine based yeah okay yeah um five five and i would just have like a preference like
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it increases my attraction to you if you're taller
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i'm five three i'd say the same thing obviously it's not like a deal breaker if someone's short i
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dated a guy that was five five but uh five six is actually the male standard average on like a global
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scale i i think united states i'm not sure but five six is the average male height i think in the
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u.s it's like in the u.s it's five nine or five ten yeah really yeah we're eating beef girls are good
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lucky darling in the netherlands we are tall the men are 193 two meters everybody is tall as
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fuck i'm small the dutch are super tall i'm very small i'm very little in the netherlands
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actually that's greatly interesting we are tall uh i'm five two my minimum would probably be like
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five six ish but i usually date like a five nine like that's probably my preference like five nine
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five eight so because i like i like closer to my height okay i i've never been tested on this but i
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think i don't care i'm like really incredibly attracted to really intelligent men and kind of
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the way they look falls by the wayside but i've never been tested so i don't know
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i i don't care i've dated a woman who's taller than me so i don't think guys care no no there's
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no way why would that matter yeah i'm five one and i would say probably like five five okay minimum
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yeah okay how tall is your husband he's five nine five ten okay cool rock and roll rock and roll we
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got a cut we got a chat here from curtis leone the the excuse me the dependa using base housing
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standards is an eight if she would have stayed she would have had two to three kids gained 200 pounds
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and driven her fat cart around the commissary to stock up on potato chips that's hilarious
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um i don't know i i got to a point believe it or not i actually um when i was leaving my ex
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um i was overweight and i i lost 60 pounds over two years since i've been away from him
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um okay i liked it i looked at myself in the mirror and like didn't like how i looked so i
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think i'd have the uh nick we're gonna go to twitch really quick guys go to twitch.tv
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slash whatever drops a follow and a prime sub if you have one twitch.tv
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slash whatever and uh chart i do want to thank you for the gifted 50 subs man thank you so much
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man i really appreciate it you're a legend and uh oh uh i also think the primes might be bugged
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because it's only been like a minute since we've last had a prime so maybe it's bugged so if you guys
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can drop us a follow and a prime sub if you're watching on twitch if you're watching on youtube
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just open up another tab drops a little sub in the chat okay so let's get into some of the uh pre-show
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notes here we have who do we have here where do we start where do we start there's a lot of notes uh
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okay why don't we do isis isis you had some interesting i was just gonna pee but too bad
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okay uh so in your instagram it says tell netflix i need my own reality show yeah
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why why i think what do you mean what like you don't think i deserve one
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um i mean but what what would the show be about like your life it would be my life i would love to
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be sponsored by all kinds of brand to make a documentary or kind of reality show of me learning
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different things and document my progress to show people that no matter what age you are
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the beginning of learning is clumsy is stupid and i because i'm not afraid to make a fault myself i would
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like to show people that in the process i can work with different like like maybe athlete athletes
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in their field or musician in their field to learn things like that on your instagram you made a post
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that you've decided in 2024 you'll become the most unhinged version of yourself yeah has that been true
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that has been absolutely true and i have paid heavy heavy price for it but definitely reaped great
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rewards as well okay yeah and there was a clip on your instagram uh there we have a couple clips from
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you actually before we get into some of those though uh you had some crazy unique dating stories you went
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on a second date with a guy and he you asked for a tiffany gold bracelet in order to go on the date
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and he complied yeah whoa i want his number so um
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the way it happened is like there's one time i was at the mark which is a pretty fancy bar in new
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york city and i met this guy and guy and this his friend and i didn't realize at the time but turns
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out they are dating but they're also open so we afterwards we went to the box to see a show and so
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that's how i got to meet this guy and the second day i was in mexico at the time i got a one-way ticket
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to mexico no return trip but this guy was only in new york for two days so i was like okay in order
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for me to get back like it's a lot like i have so you know like there's a lot of hassle i don't want
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to leave yet so he paid for the tickets he paid for the gold bracelet because that was like in order
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to see i'm gonna do that did you hook up with him not on that date but later actually did that was the
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first threesome i ever did was with him and his girlfriend like later yeah is that the bracelet
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oh no this is not that one i just wanted to know she's wearing it yeah how much is a tiffany gold
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bracelet it's about twenty five hundred dollars and wait but you asked for it right yeah so i said
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um buy me something then and he said what designer do you like i said i like tiffany but i don't like
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silver and he he was like okay give me some examples so all the examples i so i remember
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what uh not you but the guy's pathetic no i don't think he's pathetic because i definitely think
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what's the difference between sex work and what you did i didn't have sex with him
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because then but you did no that was like way later but he know he would get something out of
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you but obviously bro i'd be a fucking poor broke man for free okay who doesn't give me
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shit so what is the difference between an escort getting paid and you getting like a sugar daddy
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what is the difference between you your boyfriend giving you something because you asked for it
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so right now in new york city it's hard to claim someone as boyfriend because everybody is
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dating modes like it's like looking around a lot so it sounds like you have a guy who wants to be
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your boyfriend he does want to be my boyfriend but i don't want to be his girlfriend it sounds
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like that other guy put you on layaway what is a layaway layaway is when you start paying for
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something but you don't have enough money to get it right now so you just pay a little bit every
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month so you can get that tv for later oh am i the tv you're the tv yeah but he's not getting the tv he
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got the tv him and his boyfriend got the tv he got a two-for-one or girlfriend i'm so sorry i'm
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because i wanted to have a threesome for a first time is that wrong like you guys know what you
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did isn't wrong i mean against me because have you thought that i want to just find you very
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interesting we are not against you no no no not against no not against me but against this opinion
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like why is it that it's why is it are you compare that to sex work because why can i be the one
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deciding i want to do the threesome and gift is a completely different thing why is it that in your
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mind you would you have had a threesome with him if you didn't buy him the bracelet you said that he
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bought you the ticket and the bracelet so you could go see him so in a way that is a transaction
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a transaction yeah but everything in the world is a transaction there's nothing wrong with it
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it's nothing was this was say i i got a sugar daddy that's fine was this that's not a sugar daddy like
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i only had sex with him once and that's the threesome i wanted to have for the first time in
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my life on my birthday why is that wrong was it really your first threesome yes i guarantee you i swear
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to god i swear to god that's my one and only threesome that's why i'm so proud to announce it
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guys that's like the truth and you guys are like oh shoot like literally that was a glorious moment
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of my life and i wanted it wait i haven't made any negative assumptions by the way i just asked you
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what the difference between yeah what you did was yeah it's very different because one is that these two
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things are different getting a gift because i want him to get me again you sound like a prostitute
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explaining to the police why she shouldn't be arrested because she was receiving gifts for
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her time not her body she didn't sleep with him because he gave her the bracelet would you have
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slept with him we know each other for a year but she went on a date with him for literally we know each
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other for a year and you guys are saying that if he not not bought you the ticket if he not
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bought you the bracelet to go see him i wouldn't i wouldn't go travel to mexico is freaking far from
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new york you think i'm gonna go see him if he doesn't give me something no one is putting any
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negative light no yeah i know i'm just saying if he wasn't buying you the bracelet would you still
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suck his dick or not i never sucked his dick no yeah for the tree summer we want to call it i'm
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dutch i don't care if he would you even saw him again yeah if he didn't buy you the bracelet i gotta
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interrupt a little bit we'll come back to it really quick going back to you so you gave yourself a rating of
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10 um so do you consider yourself the most attractive girl at the table um i mean in i'm
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like myself i don't everybody's beautiful in their own unique way i'm not gonna
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women get scared to say that women get scared to say that well that's messed up to say you're the
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only girl myself and i you're the only girl who said you were 10 so are you if but but you you have
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you gave yourself the highest rating at the table do you think you're the most beautiful girl at the
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table no i think they're all beautiful in different ways than me like i have black hair
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like you got the beautiful red hair you got that there's everybody just looks very different
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oh everybody just looks very they're on your level then i think they're all i think they've rated
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themselves very low compared to what they should be none of them are more attractive than you though
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no i think that they're more attractive in different ways more attractive in different ways yeah like
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like we got a blonde we got like we got everybody different you know yeah but being blonde in and of
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itself is typically not going to be sufficient no well they they all look good it's just that we all
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are different people and beauty is subjective so me saying i i get like lots of hate i get told i look
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ugly all the time but i'm so used to it i've been doing social media since i was 14 okay like i'm very
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used to it and i understand you get told you're ugly all the time yes and i get called fat i get
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called ugly and i mean i'm not mad i don't listen to it i don't really care if people want to hate
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on the way i mean it seems like you're actually receiving uh albeit insulting feedback on your looks
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so the 10 rating let me ask you a question if you were to be rated by say a group of a thousand men
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what do you think the average rating would be for you so i think that i have some features that are
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considered conventionally attractive and some features that are not like i'm more hourglass
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but then obviously some men prefer like thinner women some men don't like i have a big nose i have
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a very big polish nose and like some people don't like that like that's that's something i get hate on
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a lot and i mean i'm not gonna i just it's all subjective i think probably they would say yes but i i'm
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not gonna lie like i do feel like i get hit on a lot i feel like i would get rated okay like i think
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i'm more attractive than are we arriving at an answer soon or like an eight maybe
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okay but i think that many why do you think there's a difference between what you think
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so you think you're a 10 but yes the average of what a thousand men would rate you as an eight
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why do you think there's a difference there um because not everybody likes the same thing
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right but this would be the average so in this cohort of a thousand men there could be some men
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that yeah you attend and some people are like oh i only date blondes so you're a two like everybody
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likes different things you know does that really exist yes i mean it's well hold on but so do you
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let me ask you a question a guy who only dates blondes do you think he would prefer to date a woman who's
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facially beautiful but is a brunette versus an ugly blonde woman which do you think he would rather
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choose or date the um attractive one the brunette one well then it's i mean based on this it's clear
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to me that being blonde is not enough to shift the needle yes but i'm saying like i mean it's not real
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like it's not like we're all ranked there's no like objective number that all of us are
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it's all subjective i listen i like really ugly men like i love an ugly man with a big messed up
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nose i love big yes a big messed up nose and all my friends are like ew why are you doing that ugly
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man i'm like well he's a 10 to me like it's all there's no objective well hold on but you said he's
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ugly yes but like i like ugly men no but how are you able to come to the determination he's
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ugly because people want to call him ugly people like all of the boys i've dated ever people are
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like oh why would you date him but you get a lot of negative comments as well telling you you're ugly
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so why aren't you ugly then i'm ugly to some people but you call another man ugly because other people
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telling he's ugly and you say a lot of people calling me ugly so why aren't you then like a five or
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six instead of a ten why are women delusional what what is attractive what what is uh what are
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ugly qualities to you as compared to attractive qualities like when you date an ugly man what is
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ugly about him that's like undesirable but you get over that it's not undesirable it's just that i
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when i think of the word ugly i think of because it's all subjective for example i have a big uh hump
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nose some people don't like that but i figure that makes a man a 10 to me i like a big nose and so like
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it's all just like i'm not gonna lie beauty is subjective and a lot of the ideas of where we
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get beauty like the ideas of beauty are like at least we're in america it's like american standards
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you know what i mean yeah like the blue eyes the blonde hair the the standards are i don't think
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that's a lot of people find the same thing attractive right standards are being made because a lot of
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people find the same person attractive the same features right different country you're right in
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different country the beauty standard can be so drastically different you can rate someone a
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one and in china it will be a 10 to seriously it so i said i'm a european too and like wait hold on
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you're saying like a woman who's a 10 in china is going to be a one in the u.s i mean that could
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happen yes even though wait hold on but hold on so you you aren't aware of the phenomenon that white men
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and western countries tend to lean towards being white white men actually tend to assess uh asian
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women as very attractive they do yeah well that's true but what i'm saying is that there exists like
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the beauty standards are different a lot of women are really popular here in america you guys treat as
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actresses in in our country when we were growing up we're like what we would never like even pick her out
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of the street that's our perception so when i come to us i realize oh my god like the big ass is in
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like in china if you're big ass you'll get lipo like if you beat like a stick the skinnier it looks
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like this little like chopsticks so it's like so different drastically different and it changes by
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decades too he's so different yeah if you look at the portrait of the ming dynasty like women are
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beautiful like very curvy and they have like no chin because it was such a very wealthy looking
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you know that's beauty and it's different because they were natural back then now we go to the plastic
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surgery because it's because the standards are different now it changes so much everything changes
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like that and like i mean i think it's kind of um a little bit disrespectful to call me delusional
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because i'm addressing the fact that most men not everybody thinks i'm a 10 because listen i think i'm
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a 10 and you asked me what i thought you didn't ask me what everybody else thinks and so you're not
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going to change my opinion of myself by being disrespectful to me and well i don't think it's
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disrespectful if you're actually delusional you literally is a 10 to a lot of chinese men why because
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first of all your nose is really tall you know in china people would put so much stuff to make their
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nose tall and the reason i realized that is when i was younger i watched a tv show this actress has
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really tall nose and then like and then i was just thinking yeah sorry i'm interrupting i just
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think it's you're a 10 and i think is a 10 a person who has no room for improvement no i do have room
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for improvement but i but regardless i still love myself at all times that's great i think wait did
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you say you were going to be better looking in 10 years time yeah but i mean 20 years time um i mean
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or i forgot your answer just you didn't ask me the 20 years i mean maybe probably i would look older but
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like i think i'll probably look good for like a old but so will you be better looking no probably
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not no 38 as compared sorry you're 21 excuse me 20 will you be better looking at 31 as compared to
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now at 21 um i think yes because i probably i like for i'm starting my career out i'm making more money
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i'm able to get more cosmetic procedures in the next month i get like my whole body done um for the
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most part not a bbl but well one thing though so if you're going to be better looking in 10 years time
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how can you be pot how can you possibly be a 10 now if you'll be better looking because 10 is
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the top you can go you can't be better looking than a 10 i i love myself right now and i would
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be completely fine like if i just stayed like this the rest of my life i'm a very confident person
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um but it's like i can still i'm always and also society is always changing so like for example like
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you look at the beauty trends of what women look like however many years ago the little thin eyebrows
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all that stuff it's like it's constantly changing like you might like like the clothing and all the
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everything changes and in 10 years it could be completely different and i think i'll look good
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for that time well i have another question then uh you said you're going to be getting
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how many plastic surgery procedures are you getting i'm getting lipo in my arms and i'm
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getting 360 lipo which is your waist and i already have a very small waist why because i want to
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i feel like you know like when you play video games and you have like the character in the skin you
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save up you get the skin you like upgrade i'm like oh like this will be like i don't know and
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also have to think i'd probably make more money like i mean maybe not so so you're getting like i
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do you're getting lipo in the arms yes lipo in the belly and i'm getting a small implant
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and then hold on hold on yes hold on well in addition to my other question again how can you
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possibly be a 10 now if you need to get these cosmetic surgeries no one said i needed them it's
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just well you're getting them regardless well i am in the adult industry and i probably would make
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more money if i was like a lot of that's a kind of a big thing and i'm so what will you be okay so but
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these procedures are going to improve your looks yes so then what number will you be after the
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procedures i will always consider myself a 10 i always i do what i want with the way i
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look but how can if it's increasing your physical attractiveness bro you can all down these specifics
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you want me to say i'm like a not i don't i don't care what you say i really don't care what you think
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about how i look that's fine i think the question i don't care that your self-perception it's more
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about like the free market doesn't think you're a 10 is what he's saying and i think that's wrong i
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think you're not delusional i think he's wrong because he's not thinking about other markets
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there's american market there's chinese she lives in the united states so she's the public figure
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only fan is everywhere right you think just to be clear you think she's a 10 in korea she can be a
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10 to some moment yeah you're beautiful yes i'm fat in korea i'm fat in a lot of why are we just like
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debating her looks yeah it's kind of like why like you really like you can like listen you can think
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i'm not a 10 i don't care listen i i don't care and i really don't care what you think about but i
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i think it's so crazy to get on a podcast and debate how a woman looks i don't well i'll tell
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you why it's important and let me also just why don't we spend 20 minutes like 15 minutes yeah
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oh girls i think you're feuding the wrong way to be no no no no not the wrong way you're saying or
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her answer or anything don't like come after me jesus christ you're saying why are you feuding the
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point of view la la la la la etc etc are you all right well it's kind of like stressful you're
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getting me on a podcast to debate how i look and i've already said i don't care we we talked about
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like can you stop talking and it's a little bit stressful and i'm not gonna lie you're kind of
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being a dickhead right now can you give her some tissue paper please yeah go get it then
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i'm good but it's a little bit overwhelming i have a full table of people you do social media and i do
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social media i'm on live every day doing all my social media but it's overwhelming it is overwhelming
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and you're kind of being a dickhead because what did i do well i thought you didn't care i mean
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hell i don't care but it's overwhelming that's badgering it's not badgering and you just want
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to keep talking about it over and over again for god knows how long how much longer you want to go
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on about it i don't give a fuck call me at eight i don't give a fuck i don't care what the
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fuck you want to call me i already said that i think i'm a 10 and this discussion is really pointless
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well it does have a point so um okay well i guess i'm ugly then i don't care what he was trying to
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say well how about you let me make yeah okay go ahead go ahead i've been interrupted i've been
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interrupted like three times in a row i'm trying to make my point but go ahead go ahead i'm gonna
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let you speak for yourself go ahead let the man speak i just think that he was trying to say if
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you think you're a 10 now that if you're getting work done then isn't there room for improvement
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he's not saying that you're not beautiful you are beautiful no i already i i get the point he's
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trying to make but it's like but it's like i don't know like kylie jenner all these beautiful women
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they can they can they even say they're a ton and they can still go get stuff done kylie regrets
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it though yeah that's i don't think they're beautiful i don't know it's so subjective like
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exactly can we let him make this point okay so uh you you take issue with me using the word
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delusional so let me just provide a definition characterized by or holding false beliefs or
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judgments about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary
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so or having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions so i think the reality is there's a
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lot of women who come on the show by the way we ask this question every single show aware and you
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always do this no don't always do it i mean if a girl gives herself a seven or even if she gives
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herself seven but she's not seven i don't really push it but to say you're a 10 is to say that you are
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on par with the most beautiful women in the world and i'm not sure i'm prepared to like
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i'm sure i'm not really sure i'm prepared to accept that some men will think she's more
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beautiful than the most beautiful person like i said i like ugly men i don't care what some men
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think who's some of the most attractive men you would ever see i would turn them down immediately
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over like some like mid white boy like that's just how it is and it's subjective well it's not
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subjective because you've just made a categorization uh categorization so you said there's beautiful
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men and there's mid men why are you able to make a an objective determination about someone's physical
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appearance but you can't do that to yourself um she didn't make objective judgment it was subjective
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right you think someone she said there's beautiful men and there's mid men that's a categorization
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yeah she categorized it in her mind she thinks he's ugly and someone thinks she's beautiful
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it's in his mind it's a but she's saying she's saying she likes to date those men who she's made
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a judgment and a determination on that they are less physically attractive by some sort of objective
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metric that's not conventionally right you might be attracted to men but for other reasons like maybe he's
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he's got a good personality i'm not in it for like like literally like i'm so not it's just it is
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bad at the personality and i don't care like just because i say they're ugly doesn't like maybe
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conventionally speaking they're they're considered ugly but not to me okay so and i literally it's so
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like dude like you're literally on a podcast debating a 21 how old are you 21 i'm 21 you're debating
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how is that relevant because it's your grown-ass man what and you asked to be on the show
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yeah this is a show about dating relationships and how women and men perceive each other and
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themselves we've been talking about this very long time the podcast is six hours or whatever we're
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just filling time here having a discussion okay well i'm over it i'm done i think it's just a matter
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of opinion that's what i've said the whole time and you're going to say i don't think you should let
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it get to you yeah you're doing great no no no you're literally pretty for a living yeah
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that's the good point well yeah but but you might not be a 10 for a living but you're doing great you
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shouldn't be emotional you're doing all right no i'm not it's i'm upset because listen i'm an emotional
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person and it's just a little bit overwhelming i think beauty is in the eyes of the beholder
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obviously i've got honestly if you are making categories about men what you are saying you are
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right you have to be honest to yourself as a woman in what category do i fail bro it's crazy to me
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because like women are super picky and you guys literally have laundry lists of like what a guy has
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to meet physically personality wise you you guys have lists of what a guy has to bring to the table
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but when guys start talking about like okay here's what we want and whenever it gets into the realm of
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physical appearance which by the way women care way more than men about this i guarantee you you go
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on a dating app y'all are swiping no on 90 of the dudes without reading their profile instantly you
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look at the first photo mid mid don't like it y'all are way pickier y'all are way pickier about looks
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than men so i'm not going to take this like oh this is like misogyny men or like well why they care so
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much about looks y'all care way fucking more about looks it's okay that you care about looks
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y'all care way fucking more about that i definitely agree with that and so i'll tell you exactly why
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it matters and why i push back on what i view as women having an overinflated sense of their own
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physical attractiveness so let me let me start by asking a question do you think that there are men
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out there who think that they're more attractive than they actually are yes do you think there are
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men who think they're hot shit yes but they're not 90 for sure so that's you
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womp womp but but so you i'm sure you object to men who think they're who's super fucking cocky
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and who think they're hot shit and think they can you know get all these girls but they don't
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right yeah but somebody thinks you're that much and more so yes exactly you know who they i'm not saying
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look there's gonna be guys that are attracted to you that's not what i'm trying to argue here but
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like if you can say that there are men out there who think that they're hot shit but they ain't
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nothing but guess what i'm not mad about them saying that you like but you might say they're delusional
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um i mean maybe but i mean i don't know if they it depends because a lot of the a lot of them like
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maybe i don't like them but like there are other women that do there's a reason they're like that
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actually i would say that so like listen i'm in college do you know how many boys that i like i
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have to deal with that actually i gotta push back on this specific thing too so i would actually argue
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that in terms of what men will find attractive men have uh in terms of what they deem physically
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attractive men have a much wider uh margin of like women they'll find attractive like i would say
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most men find most women attractive most women definitely don't find most men attractive and
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this is why you have average women who think they deserve the fucking world they're mid chicks who
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deserve like a top tier dude you don't and what's average women deserve average men average men deserve
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average women and what's going on hold on what's going on in the dating marketplace especially on dating
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apps you got average women who can get sexual access to really attractive men they'll never get
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commitment but they'll spend their 20s fucking the attractive dudes never getting commitment
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getting passed around by fuck boys and then when it's time to settle when they're in their late 20s or
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30s they're going to feel entitled to a certain caliber of guy that'll never give them commitment
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they're going to settle for a guy who's actually in their league that guy's not going to get good
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treatment it's going to be terrible for the relationship but a lot of women because it's a global
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sexual marketplace you can hop on instagram you can hop on a dating app and get average chicks can
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get dicked down like three times a day if they want to yeah they can that's not like men are just more
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sexual yeah they don't actually like but here's the thing so so here's the thing so for a guy our league
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our league is the women that we can sleep with y'all league is the men you can get commitment and
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marriage from because as a girl you can sleep with a guy it's not immediately clear if if you can sleep
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with a guy you can always get him in or with near certainty get him into a relationship but as a guy
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if i can sleep with a girl there's a very strong chance i can get her into a relationship that's so
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false what is the that's so false what's the basically 80 90 of the men i date i don't want
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a relationship with that well hold on there's strumpets there's obviously strumpets that are
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fine engaging in casual sex the the i don't think the saying is that when women are nice to men men
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feel entitled to sex when men are nice to women women feel entitled to commitment no no i don't feel
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entitled i don't want to commit to most of the men i see that's an l for you yeah because they're
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really losers they are losers yeah that's what i'm saying i fucked losers that's broke yeah that's
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an l because i need to get off man sometimes you said you don't even get off and you said you don't
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you have your vibrator i always bring my tiny vibrator with me it's like this big okay if he can't get
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me off i have my ways sometimes you need a warm body using a good cuddle what's wrong with that
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i separate business with stds cuddle you get stds from cuddle do you know how many guys are my
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cuddle buddies but it's not sex then you're not having sex with them and then you don't want
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you don't want condoms but what is your ideal men do you think that stops an std oh so you're
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saying i shouldn't have sex when i want to have sex with someone because i want to scratch and itch
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like that's so like well yeah it's called sexual discipline what do you have sexual discipline you
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never ever have sex with a girl without a condom or like you're just wait okay we're talking about
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two totally different things here okay so i just don't know i understand why you're like thinking
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what i did have is unreasonable it's like very you're an adult you can do what you want yeah exactly
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i don't know what i'm actually against like uh promiscuity culture i'm not promiscuous i just
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want to cuddle someone sometimes i want to fuck someone's yeah you're promiscuous no you are
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promiscuous oh wait wait but how is your ideal man what does he looks like or is he just your
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ideal man like a sex doll or something because i don't know it's like at different stage of my
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life i have different ideal for example with my five-year relationship i was with the same guy
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for five years if you are married phase where that's when i actually did one night stand and
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i regretted it and then there are times where i'm like seriously want to face someone it's like
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people change throughout their years and they want different things so i don't understand what's like
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so if you ever met it then would you say that like if you could go back would you still have
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one night stand i would have because at that time if i didn't have one night stand i wouldn't have no
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i regret it you know what i mean here we'll get to that in a sec to wrap up on the whole 10 thing
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here's what i see going on in the dating marketplace you have and we've i've spoken to over a thousand
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women on the show it's not all women but uh i don't know if it's a majority or who knows the exact
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number but there's enough women who are totally average totally average they don't want to date
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average men that's a problem for average men not for them no well it's also a problem for the women
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because then they end up getting into relation well relationships with men who will never commit
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to them i will believe it if a woman said it that you've read yeah where did you read that what's the
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source i mean or do women say that to you the dating apps are proof enough so if you have
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what dating app tinder tinder all these all these dating apps have really uh not all of the dating
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apps but they've released data on this women swipe no on 90 that's true yo chart dude thank you for
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the big gifted 50 subs man really appreciate it thank you chart 166 um yeah i mean this is a thing but
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why do you think women it's not 90 it's 95 i think what he's meaning okay but why do you think
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women are unhappy maybe women let me let me look at this because of their choices thank you for
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getting this different hold on hold on hold on hold on stop they have a different few okay the
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experiences of men and women on tinder women match with 36 of those they like while men match with less
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than two percent uh like and match like but no match pass so women are super picky when it comes to looks
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okay and and just in general they're super picky and so if women are overlooking men that are actually
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in their league because they think for example if you think that you're a 10 and you genuinely believe
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it certainly you must be deserving of a man who's a 10 and so what is that going to look like a man who
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thinks is a 10 who she thinks is a 10 that's important to add yeah yeah she thinks it's a 10
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not in the world most people say all these women they want to date men are more attractive yeah i
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already said i like the men that are not considered attractive i like the little shorties yeah what
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she thinks is a 10 maybe she likes broke guys maybe that's a no i i mean someone likes homeless
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i'm not saying you so it's like in her eyes so yeah if she thinks a 10 she will find someone who
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she thinks is a 10 that doesn't mean you will think he's a 10 well i think look again the big
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issue here is that i see going on in the dating marketplace is average women don't want to date
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average men true and then but here's the problem if i'm an average guy yeah and i want to get sexual
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access to above average women i can't exactly and that sounds like your problem no no no hold on
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i don't have i don't object to that yeah here's the problem average women yeah can get sexual access
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to above average men yeah that's nice i don't well uh but here's the thing here's the thing this is
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is what who's letting them in who's letting them have that access well hold on who's more to blame
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like two percent of men or the fifty percent of women who are engaged in the hookup culture
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they're like more selective women are more selective sorry women are more right but so
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i'll grant to you that there are hyper promiscuous super attractive men that sleep with a
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fuck ton of women but it's not clear to me if a if it's a small proportion of men versus like let's
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say here's the thing also i would say that almost almost any woman if she wants to has access to
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hookup culture can't say the same thing about men that's true most men don't have access to hookup
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culture because they aren't attractive enough to be able to be sleeping with that many women
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consistently whereas an average girl hold on an average girl a lot lizard okay an average girl if she
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wanted to could fuck three new guys a day and what's the problem here the problem is the problem
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the problem is is you have average women chasing after men that are out of their league yes and then
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they think they're entitled to those men they'll never get commitment and then when they finally have
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to settle down in their late 20s or 30s they're gonna like have all these experiences with all these men
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who are more attractive than their partner and they're gonna think like i'm settling but actually
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they're not they're actually not two points to that one why do you think she they're unhappy maybe
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they settle and they're happy and they live their 20s you know dating hot men and then in their 30s
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they can settle with the average men and that's great for them cheer for them so what's wrong with
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that i don't see a problem so there's this thing so um can i ask you a question i want you to think right
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now the most attractive guy you've ever dated and been with can you there's a few okay it depends like
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do you want the european style or like more scrawny doctor smart style it depends so what can you think
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of one man in particular who was like leaps and bounds above them all no i can't because everybody
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have their pros and cons that's why you cannot objectively rate a person like someone might be
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really tall and handsome and strong and have a small dick some other guy would be a very fat dick but
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it's like kind of short so it's like you can never ever what's your subjective opinion about
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the most because i can't because when you're with them it's a different feeling sometimes it make you
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feel calm sometimes it make you feel passionate how can you decide that that's crazy have you ever
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been in love before i've been in love every time i i i i date i believe you yeah yeah if there's no
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more question i really need to pee yeah i'm shocked okay go pee i'm so shocked giovanni jady donated two
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hundred dollars brian's telling the truth when i was a dgen i slept with tons of women that were
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mid because i was bored drunk etc but only wifed the nines shameful behavior but it applies to all dgen
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men yo giovanni appreciate it man look i mean there's a lot of guys that will i think one of the big
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things and i've brought this up in previous shows is that when it comes to like more casual flings or
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whatever a guy will sleep down whereas like if a girl's inclined to have like a one night stand or
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casual thing she'll typically prioritize like going for the most attractive guy she can get whereas
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when a man's trying to get like casual sex he'll lower his standards for looks so when it comes to a
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guy will sleep with a girl that just on looks alone he will never be in a relationship with her
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however i would argue typically that for a woman even to have like casual sex one night stand or
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whatever in order to have a one night stand or casual sex with a guy he typically has to be at least
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attractive enough for her to be in a relationship with him it's also dangerous if you're a woman and
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you don't understand that men will lower their standards and be disgusting and sleep with people
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who are less than because then you feel special because this guy who you perceive is so hot is
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choosing you and you're like oh that's crazy but you're you're not special he's he's using you you
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get a lot of heartbreak after yeah exactly and that's going older you want to settle down you have
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this fish in your head like oh my god i deserve a minute looks like that well the idea is that he
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makes you feel so special eventually you're going to meet a normal guy who is in your league he will not
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make you feel special and now you're like what am i missing here what's going on because you have
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that version in your head that you deserve some kind yeah you're doing yourself a disservice i i feel
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like it's a lot those numbers are the way they are because men are just desirous in general more so
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than women are their sexual desires up here ours is like right here and so that's why i feel personally
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i think that the numbers are that way so they're just going to settle for whatever they can you know
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they can do the deed with so well yeah women sleep with who they want and men sleep with who
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they can exactly let me see if there's any other chats here then we're going to move on to a new
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topic oh we have quite a few coming in here um peachy can i have you read some of these sure thank
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you negative 100 girls in the right corner look perpetually offended isis you may not realize it but
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you seem like a god level gold digger i hope you change otherwise i pity your future signatory don't
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sue me signatory or science okay what is that word negative 100 appreciate it uh right go ahead
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didn't know pink dress was a prostitute rescind my last tts shame fine christ isis dating mindset is
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i'll hide how foul i am until you're in too deep deaf ccp plant she's dated eric salwell i'm not did you
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date eric swallow swallow who's eric i've never dated eric okay and eric also i am a certified gold
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digger i am not that's negative 100 she is a certified gold digger she she was uh behind the
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scenes but she heard it curtis leone oh thank you hold on go ahead red dress is right i myself prefer
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curvy women because they remind me of dependence i had one i called bluebird she lived in my barracks
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room for two weeks i had to kick her out to avoid an njp okay thank you curtis leone appreciate it
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man thank you for the message we have robert tanner coming in oh this is a chart 166 thank you robert
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appreciate it hey i am chart 166 on twitch just fyi good show one last contribution for tonight any one
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of us to give ourselves a 10 out of 10 have self-esteem issues coming from a millionaire you have
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selfie team issues robert do you want to marry me like no you deserve a billionaire
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does she yes no i do not okay then she does do you deserve a billionaire uh it depends i don't
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think i think there's a better chance i get to a billion than my husband get to a billion so
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so i have either way i do not deserve a billionaire i just deserve a home working man
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andrews lighter donated two hundred dollars asian girl prattled for 10 minutes then told brian to get
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to the point chef's kiss a lot of prattle uh thank you andrews lighter appreciate it man thank you
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what does prattle mean tts prattle is like when you speak without a point for a certain amount of
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time oh so it's like a bad comment yeah you're like prattling oh i'm sorry inconsequential talk that
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yeah doesn't really further the conversation uh anyways going back to isis here oh the tiffany gold
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bracelets uh oh so you were saying like so you asked for it it wasn't just like a gift like you
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asked for it for the second date no i said buy me a gift he said he said i'm in new york for two days
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um and i said it's too much for me it's too much trouble for me to get back then buy me a gift if
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you want to see me and then he said what designer no you said in your pre-show notes i asked for a
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tiffany gold bracelet in order to go on the date and he complied yeah literally pre-show note i spent
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like two minutes typing because i don't really want to type in my tiny phone so like what i literally
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just said was what happened i texted he texted me i'm coming to new york for two days come hang out
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with me i said no i'm in mexico i don't want to go back he's like uh but it's too much trouble and
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he begged a little bit i was like okay then uh give me a gift for it you asked for it yeah i've asked
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that's what happened so wait and but so he paid for your flight back and then he also had to was it
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a round trip did he send you back to tulum i assume you were in tulum mexico city oh nice that's okay
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um now going around the table on this do you if you wanted to go on a second date with a guy
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and he said well you have to buy me a 2500 item would you not just laugh in his face starting with
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you i would laugh in his face and i would not talk to him i would too but why because he's a man and
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you're the woman because no it has nothing to do with men and women everybody it has everything to
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do with what i wanted but what if he wants it it's the same it doesn't matter what he wants
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it matters what i want so if a guy did that though like let's say you went on the first day with a guy
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and you want to go on a second date with him yeah and he's like well i it's kind of trouble for me i
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guess i can go on the second date with you if you spend 2500 on me okay how how would you react i
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just wouldn't go on a date with him would you laugh i don't know if i would laugh or not maybe
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would you would you think that's a ridiculous ask yeah i would think maybe he doesn't want to go on
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a second date that's why he asked for such a thing you would be such an amazing amazing dominatrix or
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something just embarrassing what about you no i will not do that because you wouldn't do that
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maybe if i had the money not that way if you had the money you would do it okay maybe i think that's
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crazy after meeting somebody for only once sure um no but listen like i said i like to spend money
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on my men but not after a second date uh-uh spend it on my boyfriend not on a second date
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would you do that it's if a girl straight up mental illness there's no possible way i i can't imagine a
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scenario where i would even kind of entertain that your man card has to be revoked if you do some
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shit like that yeah that's insane that's crazy even if you were a millionaire the idea that you
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would let so because that's actually demeaning the bow is like respect but to ask someone for
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a monetary gift in order for their time when you have little and you give little you think that's a
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lot when you have a lot you give a little that's very little so it's like it's about how big you are
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inside even if a woman asked for a 20 bracelet to go on a date with me i would be like no it's just
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it's the requirement yeah i would say no because it seems like he's depending on me to i guess
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be fine be financially ready for everything else okay um let's see you already talked about how you
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had a threesome with him you said a guy you just started seeing brought me to their dental school
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graduation party and i made a complete full of yourself right so it's um during covid and because
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of covid there's no sorry there's no um there are a couple years there's no uh graduation party for his
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dental school so he finally had one so he didn't have one for three years and then he decided to bring me
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on a second day or third day maybe i'm cursed on a second day or something yeah and then um i got
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so at first i wore a red dress he came into my room and asked me to change the dress because he said it
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would look too too much and then i changed the dress to black and then we went to the party and his friend
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got drunk and accidentally accidentally spilled wine on my shoes on my dress can you tilt your mic down oh
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on my shoes just from the from the back here from the back oh my god no no no down there you go
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oh sorry go ahead on my shoes and on my dress and um and i just broke out crying and i couldn't stop
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crying because i feel like i was just triggered by something and i just cried all night with him and
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then he never saw me again you said you groped a guy at the bar because you were bored can we long to
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the other person for a bit well i got to get through all your notes here okay sure um was this
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the thing you already told us about i don't think so so there's one time i was at a bar and my friend
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was hit on by australian dude and she's really interested so i was being a good friend trying to
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make conversation with the neighboring and then this guy has pretty good big arms really into arms so i
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started like you know chatting with him talking to him about his arms i was like can i touch it and i
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started touching his arms and like you know i just started you can tell when a guy likes it so i
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started you know groping him touching him he really liked me and we left contacts the next day he asked
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me out but at the time i was like my therapist was like don't date so i decided not to date i said no
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i'm not dating at the moment two weeks later i was filming a tiktok that's when i had two thousand
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followers a little less than so i was like i was willing to do anything to increase my views i was
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catcalling men on the street that was one only time i was catcalling men on the street and that
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me and my friend were setting up a camera and then we did that for two hours and the last five minutes
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i was like okay just one last guy and then i'm gonna go home and then this guy walks past two guys
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walk past in suits i can't call them and then they're like oh my god i know you turns out he recognized
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me from uh two weeks ago and then that's how we met again do you still have therapy yeah that's great
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what um what can you give me an example of a catcall for a man like what were you doing it's not really
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catcall like i was really just complimenting them it's really corny it's not moving it on okay you said uh
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you were brought to you were brought to a and when you say at least the groping you were just like
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touching his biceps is that it oh sorry what are you actually okay sorry i was reading a negative
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comment okay about me just ignore it okay repeat the question no please don't play okay
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so the groping thing yeah it was just like his arms you're just like grabbing no i kind of moved
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it down to the chest and the belly and then down a little bit you touch his penis
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it's hurting at the moment okay um you said you were brought to a surprise date at a michelin star
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restaurant he prepared a surprise with a diamond ring and champagne yeah how much was the diamond ring
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five thousand dollars from tiffany's and this was a first date second date third date no we we were
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dating for half a year oh half a year okay and we were serious very serious like talking about
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was it a proposal or just a here's a gift i don't know if i can say that i don't want to say that
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here actually so proposal i don't want to say that yeah yeah so a proposal we'll say it for you don't
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worry what would be wrong if that was if he proposed to you that's no it's just for privacy reasons
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because some people might know like that i don't know i don't want to say all right um let's see
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are these men rich i'm sorry brian oh it's okay i just have to are these men rich or are they like
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are they like doing the most to get you these things i no most of them are my colleagues they're
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pretty wealthy and but i have dated poor person before like people who make less no like people
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who make like less no sure you can talk about poor people i grew up poor it's fine no i my parents yeah
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okay so when you so they're your colleagues so then you have the same amount of money or close to it
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personally yeah but i spend a lot of it on myself like i spend so much money on myself that's so
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tough i don't keep anything yeah i have a shopping addiction it's really hard it's so difficult to be
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a woman but do you like because you take so much care of yourself like you call it is it like that
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you expect a man to take care of you in the same way you do for yourself like financially with the
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gifts and stuff like that that would be nice does your father take care of your mother right you
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expect the gifts financially that's where i learned it from he was the breadwinner um we had a lot of
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bad things happen to my family but one thing that was really consistent was that he's really a big gift
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giver and i think that's where i got it from every time he go on business trip he always asked me what
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i want and i think that's also it's bad it's terrible but he used it as a way to apologize are you an
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only child no i have a younger brother so he expresses his love with gifts giving isn't that
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a little bit lonely as well uh i think among my dad's side of family we're not very close but mom's
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side gave me like a lot of love so like i feel like that filled but if you look like that's your
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relationship with your daddy only giving you gifts and gifts isn't it a little bit lonely i definitely
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lack a certain like secure bond with men that's why i was a serious you think but either way is it
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like when you get gifts is that reminding you of your dad a little bit the bond that you're having
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yeah because you so you have a little bit of daddy issues i have a lot of daddy issues that's sexy
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thank you okay uh so let's see here uh you went back to the hotel with a tiffany suitcase and the
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bag of clothes i put into shopping bag during our trip that he noticed and purchased this is the
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diamond we went to so that trip we went to chicago that's where i got the diamond ring and after i got
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that on the diamond ring happened on the third or fourth day of the trip the first day i put some
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clothes in the shopping bag and when i was napping he actually bought it and got it delivered to the
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hotel room he was proposing all the way down days in nervous as fuck and then so when i got back after
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the diamond ring i see a suitcase and the clothes i bought was inside it was the best date i've ever
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had since we're like ruining dating for like everybody do you think do you think you were
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nice to him like do you think he had like you were kind to him and gentle i'm also a very generous
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person i got him a very expensive watch also um like for example i took this person on a date before
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where i it's a surprise broadway ticket wait can you scoot your mic to the edge of the table
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sorry it was the best seat it was a surprise and it cost a lot of money too okay i don't think about
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it that way yeah uh so sorry anyways you also said you got too drunk during a date and you were taken
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by ambulance yeah like you so short version please and leave the sorry at the edge of the
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table sorry just have um it's just because it was a party and it was like i was really nervous
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because he's one of the most attractive guys i've dated so i just kept on drinking and then i was like
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oh i want to take a nap so i leaned against the chair and then i just couldn't wake up they say but
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i don't remember a quick date nap people take them and then they call the ambulance because they don't
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know me well enough okay all right just a powerful 10 minutes in the middle of your dinner the asian
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girl doesn't look anything special if i was hammered damn bro what the fuck i'd give her a 4.2 you're
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a gold digger i want my money back she wants his 200 back do you want a response or do you have a
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response to jj matt here no i definitely think some people might think i'm 4.2 okay but that's okay
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that's why we're friends okay let's see yeah you said that oh all right you guys can bond after the
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show uh you said that you like to promote healthy female sexual pleasures parentheses orgasms
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yes okay cool i like female orgasms i think guys do too like other people's or no no no i like i want
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every woman to know how to pleasure themselves to completion as many times as possible okay um you
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said you like to encourage girls to do more and date more to gain more experience yeah more data points
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otherwise your data will be skewed it's not complete okay so like you think women should
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be dating multiple men at the same time no that's not true i think right now no i i don't think so i
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think at this point in my life i actually do want to date one person at a time uh now you do yeah now i
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do but i didn't before like i said i just started getting serious right so let's talk about before you
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were dating multiple people at the same yeah we're uh would you ever like sleep with multiple people at
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the same time no because i would be too scared of std okay i get checked like every other week
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i'm paranoid and anxious if you can tell abstinence too okay yeah but you would be dating then multiple
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people yeah going on dates like what was the most amount of i i hear this term roster right what was
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the biggest your roster ever was like i don't think i ever had if so there's one week i had a date
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every single date with different men um but they're all first dates and i didn't have for second dates
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with any of the men and there were days where it was so there were one time on tuesday a guy was like
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can i take you out tomorrow i said i'm booked up tomorrow can you do breakfast so he actually came to
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my work we had breakfast as a breakfast date and there's a lunch date also so it's like like i
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squeeze in but they never got a second date it's not no nothing physical so you went on one date
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every single day of the week there's there was a period of my time i did that for for more than one
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week i don't know like maybe a couple months i don't know the specifics i don't know you find that
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many guys that you like enough to put on why do you find where do you find those men what like are
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they really valuable like she lives in new york yeah she's in new york it's true if you go out
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you can get like four or five number if you're actually dancing with people and chatting with
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people do you do you have a brother just curious younger brother what how old is he six years younger
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than age so he's 21 okay um i'm just curious do you think he has like equivalent like if he wanted
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to do you think he could get a date with a girl every single day of the week no why is that does he
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does he ever do you ever talk to him about dating yeah do you think does he struggle first of all i
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want to just announce this he's a very very private person and if i say anything we don't have to do
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details tony please forgive your sister but i want to do this we can't say anything about tony
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you guys everyone be cool you call him by his name his address is uh okay name and everything
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so what about so he um he likes boys and he's a little feminine yeah ever growing up i always thought
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that way is he bi or is he gay i think he's gay okay well i can't really go this route then but
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um if he was straight though do you think he would based on i think like he's a little on the short
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side and i'm kind of glad he's gay because i think as a woman i i like taller men so i would feel kind
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of like you know wait hold on he's your brother yeah yeah wait no like what i mean for him because
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like if he's a guy like i feel like a lot of women would think oh he's short i wouldn't want to date
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him so like because he's gay i feel like it's less maybe i might be wrong but i feel like they're
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more lenient to what i think this i mean one of the points i was going to make with this is i feel
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like it's not that i feel like i know so i women definitely have dating on easy mode compared to
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men like i mean did you ever go on multiple dates in one day like two dates in one day three dates
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three dates i don't remember three but two okay you've had two two dates i mean like i would say
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very few men are able to line up like a date with a different woman every single day of the week i
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don't know what the percentage is but um and i was asking about your brother because i like to think
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about like okay well if a woman of you know based on how she looks or whatever this this is her sexual
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optionality and if you look at like her brother which would be pretty close to her like what would be
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her looks equivalent uh i often get reports from women that they can get laid super well i mean
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that's a given with women get laid super easily go on date super easily but then you ask about their
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brothers and their brothers are significantly struggling to date which uh is just an interesting
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like your looks equivalent like somebody who shares your genetics yeah is struggling to date like
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it is interesting so y'all have that on easy mode son um let me read this from fpv flight airborne
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please do an episode with and with all of the most destructive women asian girl uh desiree the
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blonde is super hot send me a message who's the oh there you go okay fpv flight airborne there's
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your husband there you go oh no he's in the military yeah yeah yeah tracks yo thank you fpv appreciate
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it man uh okay we have let's see you wanted to touch on daddy issues and trauma uh we don't have to
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go there yeah let's not talk but you have been in therapy for six years yeah yes still right you're still
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has it helped yeah that's it yeah okay i haven't really just question woman that's a fashionable thing
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to do i haven't heard anybody who's like gone to therapy and actually like gotten better you know
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you are the average of the five people around you right so it doesn't surprise me people around you
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didn't get better because it seemed like well the average for him would be the hundreds of women
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no we're not around him okay we're not around him i'm not gonna be around him after this
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but you are currently i am unfortunately unfortunately why is that nothing bro i wouldn't
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you would have even if you offered to pay me to date you i wouldn't do that i don't want to date
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i don't want to date you either bro you're fucking crazy i know i know i know there would be murder
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you've dated a fuck ton of dudes i ain't about that you don't you know nothing about anything you're
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just making assumptions oh it's all over everybody that you date a lot of it's all over your tick
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talk oh really everything you see online is real it sounds like something no you're just saying
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that you are on tiktok telling about your real life so that's not an assumption you're telling
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about your real life just because i tell stories about different men that means i had sex with
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many men i didn't say that he didn't say you had sex he didn't say you were what's many but you
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probably were having sex with them okay make another assumption what else do you assume about me
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don't get how about you talk about it that's the extent of it okay cool but i mean yeah move on
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you're trying to be like oh brian really wants to fuck me but gross i don't think you want to
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fuck me i think no i don't i know that like i accept that fact and i actually have that prediction
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you know i literally assumed that as soon as i saw you i was like we literally cannot be in the
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same room but i have to because i said yes why don't you want to be in the same room because of the
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way he treats women but you i don't think i don't think you said yes i think he said yes you
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want me oh okay okay he saw your tiktok and thought this this is awesome i gotta get this
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girl on here pretty much and he was correct because this is entertaining that's true uh wait so sorry uh
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the objection here is the way that i treat women yeah i just think that how do i treat women i don't
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know i just think what do you mean you just said it go ahead no i'm fine you can air your criticism i
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just said it i said that the way you treat women like you make her cry and you really focus on the
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body thing hold on i'm sorry hold on i made her cry or she cried and you see well i don't really
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think that you're being a very nice person like yeah i'm not gonna that's just my opinion but i
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mean i don't care if you think i'm ugly i don't care hold on did i call you ugly no but you called me
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delusional for thinking that i'm attractive no not for thinking you're attractive you said you were a
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10 out of 10 okay then nine whatever you want me to say so it doesn't matter i don't care i didn't
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make i didn't say you were unattractive i didn't say any of that all i simply said because i don't i
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don't make it a habit to actually give somebody a rating but if somebody does say they're a 10 or
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they're nine and it's like no offense clearly not the case i'm not just going to pamper you
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hundred donated two hundred dollars on everything you said brian desiré plus isis episode now now
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we need an isis we need an isis one-on-one deep dive into all her social media series just review
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all her tiktoks that's how you're going to get a netflix deal by the way okay is we do a one-on-one
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sit down we do we do a deep dive on all your tiktoks it'll take 50 hours but we'll do it
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all right negative 200 appreciate it man we have another chat here from did the girls get pre-show
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instructions this time about how to better answer the rate yourself question this is the first time
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they didn't all answer 10 out of 10 that authenticity is refreshing well there's two things here one
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a lot of the girls most of the girls actually don't say 10 like not just this panel but all the
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other panels it's usually one two or three also there is a tendency if the first person this is not
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just for this question but any question if the first person gives an answer it's going to
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to say poison the well for all the like following people so you should put it on paper
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that is a good idea we should name taken appreciate it man um but so
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what i guess really quick so how do i treat women listen to them and don't question their answer
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every time i say yes or no you question yeah yeah really i know are you telling the truth are you lying
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it's like this is a this is literally a podcast about being confrontational about that's why i'm
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being confrontational right now yeah it's it would be like if you showed up to a gym where they do
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jujitsu and you're like all these people keep wrestling me this shit is crazy like you're you're
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literally here to to confront your opinions and ideas and bounce them i got off of other people and brian
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is well known for his opinions yeah it's crazy that you're surprised right now i am surprised
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this is my first time i ever watched the podcast you didn't look it up before i did watch a few
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clips but it doesn't represent the entirety of his certain wording so you think hold on i called her
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delusional that's it and i was very very prepared for you to say some shit because obviously you do this
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every single time and i mean i've seen the clips and i don't really i mean the thing is like a lot
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of these women i think they're all very attractive women and i always said rate them higher and i'm
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prepared to um to get that like because i basically knew that's why honestly a lot of these women
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probably think they're more attractive than they said that they were because they knew you were going
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to attack them all right but we are on his podcast he has his opinion damn the audacity of this man
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i'm so sorry if i apologize if i apologize then we will move on from this point
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because it's horrible the audacity of this man i know oh my god it's like uh the point of the
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question of asking someone if they're 10 of 10 and when you say women are like oh i'm i'm answering
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less than because i believe i'm more but i don't want to get confronted that's the point of the question
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is to is to be confronted about your possible delusion regarding your place in society or how it
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perceives you and he asks the question every podcast because this is a podcast about women
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and dating yeah and women have a problem with how they perceive reality and he thinks it's
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interesting to reveal that that's why the question is so illuminating and entertaining for people who
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are watching it is interesting it is interesting to reveal all right next one it is not good to
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advertise it is interesting to reveal but it's not good to advertise because it spreads the wrong
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message so it is if i'm to be on your podcast i want to spread my message what i believe in that's
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why regardless of question or who he is or what type of podcaster he is that's my opinion yeah
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yeah and he gave you a platform to voice it yeah and i've voiced it yeah but i don't think it is
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i don't think it's mistreatment or like treating a woman badly to uh disagree with them on their own
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assessment here like i'm not here i'm not gonna kiss your ass i'm not here to just co-sign and agree
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with everything that you say because i think for women delulu is the so so so we must be not
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it's not it's not in my case it is be honest to yourself it's not i am honest to myself you
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cannot call brian a dick because it's his podcast he's still in his chair no you can call me a dick
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that's fine but you have your own reality go ahead go ahead sorry i was just gonna say brian is
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gonna have his own opinions you're gonna have his own opinions and or you're gonna have your own
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opinions and i think it's just interesting because i'm sorry i just think it's interesting
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how i mean i i disagree with how you guys are saying oh like you're making girls cry like things
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like that but it's your choice it's your choice to be offended and let it get to you yeah i'm
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overwhelmed i'm not offended i get called ugly every single day yeah but it's not i'm not calling you
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ugly though right i'm not calling you ugly when i'm address the fact that i know not everybody
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thinks i'm attractive and i know that as a fact i said that i said i said that i think that if i was
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but i do think that the average american person is not the most attractive let's go to walmart
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let's go to walmart let's look at the walmart customers but that's not the point speak for yourself
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i love a woman in spongebob pajama pants he just said you're a little delusional
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baby bird like yeah but he just said you're a little delusional he said delusional is the
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solution so there's nothing going on he didn't say anything wrong all right next topic yourself
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you said what'd you say i said i was a five yeah and you do you know how you make your money by being
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hot so who like i'm not gonna lie like by desperate men that's how we make money i'm in the industry as
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well yeah and you're more attractive that's not because we are hot because we have desperate men
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paying us on our platform that's how we make money i think of a 10 and i think of like megan
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foxx in her prime and i'm like how do i compare to me but i didn't say that everyone thinks i'm a
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time we have to be honest we're getting paid for i didn't say everyone thinks i'm a 10 i said
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moving it moving it on more more isis stuff though we can move on it's been a long time on me
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do we have time for other people so i'll get through a few more notes with you then i'll get to
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other people's notes here so uh let's see uh would love to share the changes i had when dating from
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super clingy codependency poor uh poor emotional control and outburst to mature ways to man whatever
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skip skip uh you said uh remember that man said that his wife gets salty i've done that before
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mike davis donated two hundred dollars when did this show become a therapy session i don't blame women
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they know not what they do i blame you sucker simps for blowing up mitts a real man works on his
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game to earn a high level female that is what i'm talking about true there that's mike davis by the
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way yo mike dude join our discord mike i'll get you a role can you bring me some food i'm a little
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hungry he does own a bunch of burger things good to see you in the chat mike davis hope you're having a
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good night uh over there on the east coast so isis you said more is more always date more not less
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each interaction is a data point that will enrich you as a woman yeah like i said more experience
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is good you will figure out what you want is it yeah yeah what about all the like trauma though
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yeah it is hard but trauma yeah it's true trauma that doesn't transform transmits so you will keep
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transmitting the trauma but if you heal you'll get stronger and that's what i hope everybody does is
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heal okay uh you said you've uh how and you said you wait hold on where's this thing about serial
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dater oh you used to be a serial dater you've had a lot of turmoil and heartbreak might seem like i'm
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always struggling all these heartaches gave me exposure therapy and experience i would go through them
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all over again uh how long were you serial dating roster rotation whatever it's not
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how long like i dated my ex-boyfriend and since 18 no since 16 it's always like i already look for
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the next uh boyfriend already have feelings for the next person before breaking up with the current
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one so it was maybe like three guys back to back i didn't give any break why do you not fight to say
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with one man if you are really in love because i was not in love is about right maybe i continue because
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i didn't love myself fully i couldn't love other people even though they are really loving to me i
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couldn't see the value but that is probably why men do not marry you yet no it's because i didn't want
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to marry them because i don't love like i don't think i'm fully myself yet well do you think that you
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were sad and didn't love yourself in relation to your behaviors because you're saying so when you say
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like oh i need all these data points i should date a lot but then when i was doing that i felt worthless and i
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did not love myself that's wouldn't that be the opposite of what that exposed the problem you
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know i was suffering i was like why am i suffering and i realized i always because the problem was
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exposed to you when like a person says hey don't just date around because it's going to be unfulfilling
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and ultimately hurt you you should decide what you want from an intimate relationship and just
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don't settle for anything less than that and are you not a little bit if someone talked to me like
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that do you think i would listen of course not i make the same mistake all the time again and again are you
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not a little bit scared because maybe you are always looking for some kind of trigger and if
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you do not have that trigger anymore you will find it somewhere else and else and else are you not a
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little bit scared you will never find that fulfilling triggering no i think i believe in myself
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all right okay good for you all right and then let's see you said monogamy isn't human nature
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marriage has always been an exchange of power money we need to be more realistic don't marry potential
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yeah so what do you what do you mean by don't marry i think that until this guy has proven that
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he can financially support me and my future children and our lifestyle i won't marry them
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okay even if they have the potential to earn down the road yeah potential isn't real you're
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underestimating the power of like what a couple can achieve i agree i agree with you and if you pass
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up on a guy before he has reached or prior to him reaching that point you could be passing up on a
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millionaire but at the same time there could be a lot of people that match what i like and then
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fits all the criteria why do i have to say potential is not real but you believe in your
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own potential to be a billionaire so why is that man always so wrong in your eyes but you believe in
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your own potential you probably go home light a candle thank god for this podcast and your
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potential but you say a man doesn't have potential men have potential but you do not believe in
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potential i didn't say men don't have potential i'm saying i want the men who already got their
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back that's what i'm saying matter you could be missing out on an amazing god
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but why would he want you because you're not there yet because you can find someone who's compatible to
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you that you might think is trash you know like but the kind of man who would listen to you say
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this on a podcast and be like i'm gonna marry that girl do you think he would treat you very well or
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that's of himself well that's your opinion because you have that's from your perspective it is my
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perspective that's why i'm yeah exactly so i think there are guys who i think are compatible to me
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and watch this podcast will be okay because this is me i can't change what i am even if i don't
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use these or pretend giovanni jd donated two hundred dollars yo thank you giovanni any man that would
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marry any of the prostitutes on here absent complete repentance is a zero not everybody in the world is
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wealthier than someone that wife's a proud prostitute not everybody is a prostitute yo giovanni merci
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beaucoup thank you for the uh tts there man really appreciate it good to see you in the chat and now
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i'm glad we fixed the whole uh giovanni tts robot naming thing uh okay and so you also uh monogamy
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isn't human nature i think it's hard it takes discipline for you for everybody it's just against
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nature i think for men for women i think they're both hard i think a lot of people are tempted you
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ever not been monogamous no i've always been monogamous but there's been hardship like there were dry
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times we don't have passion anymore and i don't know what to do and but if you really are in love
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as a woman if i'm in love i only see one person there's one person in my head my eyes that my body
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is attracted to there's nobody if you're really enough there's just one man one feeling like
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that's a woman's thing right so how does that work to have multiple men in your life then i don't
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if you're really in love if you talk about love i don't i don't fall in love with them i go on
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first date with different men i don't understand what you're talking about no if you're like really
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in love you want to have like a little bit monogamous relationship i just think monogamy is
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hard and i think people have to put hard works into monogamy that's what i'm saying it's against
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nature that's why there's a lot of divorce rate and it take that's why i want the perfect man because i
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don't want to when they want to divorce him for some dumb reason you know because i dated someone for
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five years he's wonderful and and i don't know why this passion was lost so sometimes love is
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gone you don't know why that's all relationships hard yeah passion ebbs and exactly so that's why
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the commitment is so ability you know i think it's not compatibility it's commitment but both right
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you have to have the same value well you have to have the same values for sure but you have to commit
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it you know it's not about compatibility the right person no the right person is the person you choose
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yes you know but you should be there's nothing else needed if you choose them they're the right
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perfect man for her i don't know you know who you should be dating you know no johnny sins because he
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can do everything every job every everything you should be dating him would be perfect oh my god
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the man can do everything uh last thing we do have a few more notes from isis but we're gonna come
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back to them a little bit later nick can you pull up uh isis isis instagram because uh this is it's
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kind of i'm not trying to throw shade isis but it's like two different worlds like your tick tock
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and then your instagram it's it's crazy it's crazy let me know when you got it pulled up i'm so excited
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right now so it's like instagram no idea what's about reality but not like appearance it's it's not
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a bad appearance it's like like you look at pull it up anything like scroll down she could be
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hunting people on here i would believe it yeah so like scroll down like you look at your instagram
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and like i kind of think like you look at it and it's it's kind of like very nice yeah it's like
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who takes these photos they're great i i kind of look i'm like oh it's kind of she looks sweet and
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wholesome and nice good photos like kind of nice good pictures like nice girl family girl yeah i mean
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there's a couple that are a bit questionable but like look oh here's you with some very good page
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actually there's you with some sunflowers keep going yeah keep going beautiful page though look
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look at all this floral the floral photos you know look oh here's you with some photos look uh
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eating a hamburger look at the photo pictures big very wholesome it would be very unassuming if i
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saw this i'm like is that the red dress you weren't allowed to wear no okay okay okay there you go
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oh wait it is the bowl yes it is and uh oh sex is okay she lost me at the sex is back uh but pretty
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wholesome overall yeah you know you would unassuming and then it's like i look at your
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you know like you'd think maybe like cute not a thought i'm sorry i'm sorry um but bro then you
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see the tick tock i'm sorry isis i'm sorry no don't i'm just saying it's a cold world out there
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gentlemen you gotta be careful even unassuming women they got some stories i don't understand
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what's the difference between my tiktok and my instagram we must stay focused brothers we must
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stay focused well because like then you start talking about like the dating stories because
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those pictures actually were taken years ago it was when i was in college it was way so i posted way
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later because i always wanted to be a content creator so i was in la for a while staying there
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for at least eight months and got a photo shoot and did a lot of things and i never posted them because
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i wanted my grit to be perfect and i always was like oh it has to be red it has to be red i just
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could never figure it out and years later i had this heartbreak with this guy i was dating and i was
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like what am i doing wasting my time crying over boy like let me do something just for myself and i
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decided to post them all at once and tip you cannot post more than 300 instagram photo in an hour like
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they'll block you so i did that for like several days and i posted everything at once that's why it's
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old but on tiktok it's my new journey because i so you got hurt by a man and then you decided to
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hurt men back that's an interesting that's not the point and i don't understand what you're saying so
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we can move on okay let me get all right let me get into some of the uh other notes here uh let's see
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but we will pull up some of her she's got some pretty interesting and entertaining entertaining
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excuse me um what's it called uh stories and videos and stuff we do have alexa we already
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talked about your boyfriend who yeah i honestly there's not much more to say uh oh so you do
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traditional corn content um no i actually don't i'm i when i graduate i probably will but for right
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now i'm not able to fly all the time because i'm in college but you will eventually have you but
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you've done scenes with guys right yes how many different men have you done scenes with
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well so when i first started i would do content only with boyfriends like obviously like men are
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not usually really opposed to that because they're if they're they're fine with only fans in general
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then they're fine with that usually but um no i started moving more towards like filming with
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content creators uh probably around uh january and now i do it every single at least for my summer
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break i've been going every month to vegas miami to vegas miami la all these places um doing collabs
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and yeah how many so how many different men have you done scenes with um probably like 10 maybe 10
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different guys how many total scenes have you done because you can shoot multiple scenes with uh
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i don't think i've shot with people more than once oh okay uh in your notes here you said men hook up
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with date women to receive validation from other men and care more about how their peers see them
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than the woman women than the woman i might have just missed there with did i send that yesterday or
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two days ago because i might it might have been older like it probably was really old so do you no
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longer um no i i agree i think that a lot of the time in college especially like guys like i'm like
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bro like y'all are no way y'all are into the the cooch this much like i swear y'all like just do it
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like cooch like they don't want you know what i mean wait you think guys really aren't about the
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they just want to look cool to their friends both i'll be like a lot i think a lot of you would be
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surprised how many men have been with you and told zero people ever not out of embarrassment not
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out of anything just because they're it why would it matter why would they tell because their bros are
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like yeah bro yeah nice that's actually not how dudes are at all don't you think this is actually
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like this is what women do and they actually project it dude firstly if you've ever had a
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girlfriend or whatever and you look in her girl group chat it's if one of them sleeps with a guy
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his photos in there they're all talking about to ask about it if a guy did that in my chat i'd be
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like gay get that out of here oh sorry i did a tos i did a tos but that's very true if a dude tried
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to post a girl he hooked up with in the boys group chat i'd be like lame let's talk about something
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cool what are you doing yeah i mean i mean it'd be embarrassing so shane i'll ask you i mean i'll know
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about you but i've it's definitely the case like if a girl just one time sleeps with a guy the whole
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friend group knows 100 here's photos here's his dick size here's all these details that's true
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whereas like i it's true i could be boyfriend girlfriend with a girl yeah and nobody i don't
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want any of my guy friends to know about my girl ever even if i'm just hooking up with her i mean
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that's that's mine don't get away like uh if a girl like sends you nudes i would never share that
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ever and i would never show it in a million years like check out this no way that's for me i don't
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even like knowing if she took them before and sent me an old one those are just for me forever
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that's not the only way to show off because for example if i'm a guy and i date you and you're
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beautiful you're a 10 i would want to show you off to a friend just by being with you you know
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i think you could be ugly and they'd still do it like yeah exactly like that you don't have to send
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each other you can just no dude you never want to show off here's the difference right you're also a
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lot older than me i'm in college like these college boys i've dated frat guys and i've seen their group
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chats well sure there's black guys yeah they have a specific reputation okay well i was in college
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once and even when i was in college i think it's a woman's thing i definitely i do because i think
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we are insecure so we are like oh my god yourself yeah there's no i don't think we are a little bit
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insecure so we tell our friends hey what do you like this guy talks about this and this and oh my
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god he doesn't post me on instagram i want to be seen i want to show off so i feel safe that he's
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not have any secrets about me and stuff like that so i just think i have had i have had contentious
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arguments in relationships because girls are in group chats sending each other photos of dudes
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they've been with and bragging and asking questions and i think it's wildly inappropriate i want to date
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someone who would do that if your best friend is like who did you hook up with let me see him and
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also like that sucks i don't want to date someone like that's gross i mean this is all our personal
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experiences i just like because think about you know men are so they're so horny all the time and
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i'm like damn no way y'all's like y'all are this thirsty compared to women like i think it's a lot of
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validation we are men are men are touching themselves while they're driving do you understand like there's
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no we it's so it's so dramatic it's so extra it is because they want validation well uh going back
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to this shane so um i'll know about you but like let's say you went on a date with a girl and your
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buddy happens to know that you went out with a girl or something like i'll know about you but my
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conversation with a male friend would be like he might be like oh hey brian how to go with tiffany
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i'd be like good yeah we could have hooked up we could whatever that's it oh yeah it was good man
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that's it i'm not gonna say like get into details and talk about the sex with the dude that's the
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last thing i'm gonna share i don't know if i'm an outlier if i'm just discreet i would never share
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any of that info i am with a girl look at me or sorry with a male friend look at me i am friends
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with a lot of degenerate disgusting men like dudes who are up to horrible things we do not talk about
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that stuff it's it's weird it would be embarrassing to me if a male friend tried to be like dude i was
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with her this is what it was like i'd be like what are you doing right now wait a second let me ask
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you this question you guys keep talking about but first you said that your experience is you're not
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that type of guy i agree with you but you bring up an interesting point you said you know scumbags
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and even they wouldn't do that okay that's wrong have you heard of the burning sun incident
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you want the burning sun incident burning sun incident it's famous people group of guys
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do you know big bang k-pop are you gonna bring it up are you discussing revenge porn right no i'm
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not revenge for this group of guys celebrities they actually have a secret chat room where they sign
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each news girls they drugged girls they volunteer involuntary or voluntary into the chat room and this is
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hundreds of people and this has happened all kinds of countries this burning sun incident is a bbc
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documentary you should all check it out okay but so aren't you the one who talks the men in the club
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let me finish she's talking about her experience so it's valid there are guys who do that to show
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off to text with each other you gotta understand me and shane are not making the argument that no men
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do that there's obviously guys that are gross but i'm just saying please acknowledge the scumbags of
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the world okay oh there's evil people doing bad stuff but i would say generally speaking sure there's
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men who do this i think it actually manifests itself much more in women i mean no there is i think
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they've actually studied that i don't know if there's studies well but it is how many how many times have
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you guys been on a date and before you went on the date you sent a photo of the guy to a girlfriend
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no never you don't want to oh i got one i have a good one i have a good one okay how many of you
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have disclosed to either a female friend or even a female acquaintance the size of a guy's penis who you
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hooked up with raise your hands no no no be honest be honest memorable be honest shane have you ever
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disclosed the fucking pussy size the labia size of a girl you fucked up with to a male friend
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because that doesn't matter because penis size matters no no no pussy matter no no it matters
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hashtag i only date women with large bra size bra size bra size um i got my libya off
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i think if a girl had something i had an operation they might say something to them what's that i said i
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think the same way that a girl if if the guys if it's real memorable maybe they'll say something
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i would never say something about his normal penis but i think if a girl had something really memorable
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or something really crazy happened the guy would be just as likely to say i mean if she had like
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if she got naked and you're like dude she didn't have one of her legs like that would be like something
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she had an extra i mean i i've encountered like interesting sexual things like if she bit you or like
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barked at you you'd probably say like the cat story like yeah but most people like a lot of men are
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going to feel like a type of way like if you're talking about his genitals that's way different
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than like an anecdote that any like anybody could bite you right so i don't think anybody would like
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if he bit you and you told somebody like it's not discreet but it's not like super intimate information
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necessarily although there are yeah i could i still think i still think it's but like maybe they got
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a fetish i've encountered i've encountered women who are like crazily multi-orgasmic who come
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instantly i would never tell a male friend that but you're also a lot older than me and how is that
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okay cool because a lot of these it is an immature thing definitely and that's why i mean i'm a college
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girl i deal with the college boys and that's what they do well i don't know if like younger guys are
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more getting more like feminine or whatever but like at least for me i've always been discreet with
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the girls i date like it's for me it's just a respect thing i ain't gonna tell i think yeah
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but don't care women do that shit all the time it's disrespectful when they do it too i just never
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i haven't experienced yeah but it's not i don't think it's viewed like when y'all are with your
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girlfriends and you're like sharing all these intimate details about like some new guy you hooked
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up with but you don't none of none of the women in the group are like whoa this is kind of like
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sharing really intimate details but guess what women experience shame people shame women for having
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sex people do not shame men for having sex oh they do i think they do but i would also like to point
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out that you are a um an adult worker yeah and so when men sleep with you i think a lot of the time
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it's a conquest when but you've been doing you've been doing that before since you were 18 um yes but
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i'm not gonna lie i didn't really do that when but like i that's a recent thing collaborating with
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people but still if you are if you if you do if you're an sw or whatever and and someone hooks up with
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you then you're more likely by virtue of the line of work and stuff to attract the type of scumbag man
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who would be like yo check this girl's instagram she does this and i just hooked up with her i see
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them do it with other girls too like my friends all these other i think it's i don't think it's
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necessarily just me you know what i mean just slip them in their face when they do it i guess to go
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back really quick and then we'll move it on to a new topic you said that men hook up with date women
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to receive validation from other men and care more about how their peers see them than the women they're with
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um and i think i sent that a long time sure that's fine but so i mean maybe this is true but i i do
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think i mean well at least i think maybe the panel agrees disagrees i do think it's a far more
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frequent occurrence in women for example i think women are much more likely to seek out the cosign
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from their friends on the guy than the reverse but like i said like i like women or like you you
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come on here and i've seen you ask girls what's your body count it's a it's shameful it's people you're
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you're it's it's it's meant to be like oh your body count is higher wait don't you hold on it's
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okay sorry i gotta interrupt you here let me engage you precisely on this so you object to me
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shaming women for their body count which i don't really think i do well it's meant to be asked because
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you say like oh like i think pretty sure you ask like oh like or i don't know it doesn't matter
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you ask if it matters or something like that sure we talk about body count the point is it's
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you would never ask a man and then shame them for it actually well actually i'm i've said this
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multiple times on the podcast nobody cares about a man's body count well hold on i've said this
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multiple multiple times on the podcast i'm actually not in favor of male promiscuity either i don't do
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hookup i just do it for my job right but so hold on so are you do you have trouble with me shaming
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women or do you have trouble with you think there's a double standard i think that there is a double
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standard and it may not necessarily be from you but from everyone i've just stated though that i
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object to male promiscuity too do you know another podcast that ask men their body count hosted by a
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woman if you want to yeah guys we guys call her daddy i'm good friends call her daddy bring out both
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men eat men and women equally but you guys bring out only girls you guys we thought is it first
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thing my friend corinne fisher runs that podcast i'm close friends with her we dated
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she literally it's a podcast about people she fucks and people who are promiscuous it's the
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anti-slut shaming podcast she literally has men on there to talk about how slutty they are that's
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the whole premise of the show they also bring women on and equally i mean they talk to women about
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not sex they talk about a lot of gossip a lot of women a lot of female female go on those podcasts
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but they have about targeting we're also men but this is about targeting women this is a
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dating podcast but why is it i'm on here i'm a man
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do you not see proportions darling but why is it wrong for a man to ask about body count but it's
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okay for a woman to ask about a man's bank account i'm not a bank account or anything
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that's not everybody i don't know i always ask bank account information oh okay you don't want to
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so that's not you got my point right um yeah that's a w for uh yeah um wait hold on so
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so you're like well you shame the women blah blah blah well i'm not in favor of male
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promiscuity either i think it's different but i think they're both i mean i think well we can get
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into that but you said you said hookup culture ruins dating i think it does annoying because
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no one wants to commit anymore so if hookup culture is bad hookup culture would be proxy for
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promiscuity promiscuity is proxy for having a high body count so how are we going if you object to
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hookup culture uh there we're not gonna hold on hold on well most people will say they object to hook
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hookup culture but if you start shaming female sexuality and promiscuity all of a sudden there's
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a problem where there's no way we're going to be able to legislate women to not fuck a bunch of
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dudes so the only solution to hookup culture is by shaming female sexuality and promiscuity i think
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adults can do what they want to do and personally but okay then if you can just do whatever you want
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to do but hookup culture bad how do you solve hookup culture i don't like hookup culture i don't
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partake in it i do it for my i guess i do so you don't want to see the world improve i mean so i
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think that it ruins dating because personally like i am even before i did adult content it was very
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frustrating because it's like bro like i'll like every nobody i feel like nobody's in relationships
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i feel like it's all just hook up hook up hook up hook up easy sex okay so why don't we shame men
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and women who engage in promiscuous behavior because i mean i don't know i feel like what would be wrong
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with that i feel like if they're they're gonna do it if they're gonna do it and they're like i mean if
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they okay people are gonna sell drugs and commit all sorts of crimes okay but like i i'm not we
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should try to like if they want to create a social prep and i am and adults are allowed to make those
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decisions for themselves no i don't want to do it can i say something or let's let shame go then i'll
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have you come shame is shame is something that is a power you give to someone else to give to you
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like if i'm mormon and i drink coffee and someone sees it i will feel shame but if you drink coffee do you
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care at all no and so when he says what's your body count and you feel like you're being shamed i'll
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tell you right now i mean i don't know you don't have to i don't know she can tell oh yeah i mean
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yeah actually what am i talking about it's the whole show my bad i really genuinely don't know but but
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but if he asked women who come on this podcast what's your body count and you think that he is
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shaming them why if the body count doesn't matter then they should just powerfully say it's a good point
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this and then whatever and then just move on because their sexuality is theirs it doesn't
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belong to brian brian's opinion doesn't affect them but everyone seems to feel really weird and
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awkward about it because it's almost like sex is really intimate and beautiful and essential to
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the human experience it's done to i think try to like embarrass women and like i said i don't really
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care about body count personally i am i do adult content and so it doesn't really matter to me as much
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but um i don't know i actually um if a girl reveals her body count on the show and it's high
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i have absolutely typically like no reaction i don't know even if it's high i'm pretty much just
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like okay i mean okay i mean it doesn't really matter i think it's not about embarrassing them
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when you're like when you're like an adult especially the older you get i feel like the
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less it matters it's more of like an immature thing i think what do you mean an immature thing
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because it's like i don't know like think about like i mean you mean immature to care about
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body count yeah i think it is kind of because i mean the more the older you get the more experience
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you get and it's like the more like i think that if you care about it it's because like i mean it's
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i think it's immature i think that it's immature yeah it gets convoluted i don't think it's that
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we care about body count i think it's it's the what happens to you because of the high body count
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right like you have all these i think some people may view it as a loyalty issue sometimes it's terrible
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and you're messed up because of it yeah go ahead go ahead all right it's going to sound a little
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bit harsh but i do not mean it that way we are both porn stars right we work you do do you do content
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with other people though i did one movie the guy that told you but i think as a porn star if we look
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honestly at ourselves we cannot say we are against hookup culture if that's literally our job i don't do
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any kind of stuff outside of content though i i've never but you hook up with men and which you do
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not want to be judged by it i do not judge you at all i don't care if people judge me first my job
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but you cannot say i do not like it when you do it for a living but it's like different i like
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because i'm a relationship person like i do not like it and do it for a living it's very like i'm
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a relationship person that we have to be honest ourselves we're doing porn we cannot say i do not
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like it and do it i mean i don't want it i don't do it i've never done it outside of content i don't
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really like it but it's still i mean not all car mechanics like being car mechanics right i'm some
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people i'm i'm not saying that there are people in the industry who don't like it i'm just saying
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you could do it and not like if you do it for a living hooking up for a living and making a movie
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you cannot say i do not like it i feel like the point is less that and more that you can't be a car
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mechanic and then be like dang all these cars on the road all this time i hate it here you got my point
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about the atmosphere because i do think a lot of shame are put upon women by men and it's societal
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and it's caused by patriarchy that's what i think and to your point you think shame is you giving your
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power away to someone else i don't think that's true because as human being we unconsciously care
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about what other people think so in order to fit into society unconsciously we feel shame because
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everybody's opinion affect us so when you call us permissive permiscuous and when you use a negative term
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to describe someone who you perceive like like for instance short a lot like for instance the word
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short yeah yeah like if i'm so i just think that that's not okay i don't know you interrupted my
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thought and then i just like farted go ahead my my brain just farted if we would have women ruining
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the world we were just but shame is put upon us by men a lot of times and women who couldn't you know
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what's actually what's actually wrong with shame shame like what does that make progress shame and
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guilt actually stall your progress i think what do you mean positive bullying your progress your progress
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but but so for example like if negative negative uh if actions contribute to uh negative world outcomes
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or like starts breaking down society like how do you actually start defending against that without like
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passing laws the only way you have is social pressure and shame like so unless we're prepared to legislate
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like okay enforced monogamy which is never going to happen really the only way that you're going to be able to
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combat promiscuity in both men and women is to shame promiscuity and be honest
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technically we have forced monogamy because polygamy is illegal yeah maybe we shouldn't have monogamy that's
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what i'm saying yeah more so like um but that proves your point yeah so yeah all right you have to shame
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people out of the bad thing polygamy which is a practice that destroys communities and you know drives
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men to commit suicide and it has all kinds of other problems but like anyway i grew up in utah so
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polygamists are all over the place but um yeah it's bad so the shame is makes sense uh chart one six
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six sorry i didn't get to this immediately this came in about six minutes ago yo uh robert tanner
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prime appreciate it guys thank you thank you all right uh so where were we questions yeah uh about
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instagrams and stuff um that's what you want i don't know if you have any more going to we i think
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i have a bit more um let's see you said you date submissive men we already talked about that hookup
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culture bad yeah you said you likely disagree with the host on most things yeah i mean i don't know
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but i feel like that's been pretty obvious but you both agree that hookup culture is bad i mean i
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personally for me i don't like it i'm i'm such a love lover girl so i just want like a boyfriend and
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obviously that doing my job makes that difficult but there's someone for everyone so sure there will
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be someone for me are there any specific things that you disagree on that i can engage with on
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quickly or no i think we've already been talking about all okay uh question do you make guys wait for
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sex um well i'm not gonna lie i haven't dated any guys in a long time but i do okay so say a guy who
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wants to date you and you like him would you make him wait for sex not like really not the 12 the 12
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dates but like maybe like a second or a third second or third okay so not too long i feel like
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you can read the room and tell like this is going to go somewhere versus what they are looking for if
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they just want to hook up you can usually read them and you said that you're a good girlfriend
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and and you like spoiling men oh i guess i did i don't know in your voice note that you sent like
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yesterday yeah yeah i definitely i definitely do do that i love that i love giving gifts and i love
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like spending time would you uh continue to do like if you're dating a guy would you be doing scenes with
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men so it depends if i was to date somebody that also does content i would say they don't they're
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then i would it maybe i would stop but the thing is it's like how serious is it like how like you
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know what i mean like are there guys that i'll like and i'm like oh i like this guy but i'm like
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realistically i don't think this would work out okay um so i wouldn't stop it for them but i feel
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like maybe if there was somebody that was really serious with it like they they were expressing like
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oh like yeah like i think there's like like like i like you a lot but like maybe like but um
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like i would you'd have to stop maybe i would but or maybe just do content with them like i don't
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think i would stop content outright but okay unless they were really rich and just could prove
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like not because i like being a very independent person i have i like having my own money i like
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supporting myself so if they were able to do that but then it would also put me in a position where i
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feel vulnerable because i don't have my own stream of income okay what was your question um i was gonna
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say so what is hookup culture to you um kind of like how people just like go on the the tinder late
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at night they're like come over baby girl and then they're like yeah mama i'm coming over like
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that's like like that stuff so i mean i don't know there's a lot of hookup culture isn't just
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it's like the next level where like you don't even know their name and you're doing it i mean it could
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be less than that it could be it could just be like like i don't know like the one night stands is
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a hookup culture i'm just wondering how that's any different from what i do job is well to me it's very
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professional i think you show up you sign the paperwork you have to do paperwork you have to take
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pictures of ids it's very disgust like we're doing this we're doing this then um if there's
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a camera guy they have to go over all of that there's it's very set up it's not like i'm not gonna
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lie a lot of the time girls they you can just lube up your your coach and you're good like it's not
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even really intimate sometimes i don't think though the hookup culture is intimate either um
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um i mean i think that like sometimes i feel like girls that do uh corn they're not always even
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aroused like sometimes it's just i think girls doing hookup culture aren't always aroused well
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why are they doing it that's a great question that's what we're trying to answer giovanni j you donated
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two hundred dollars hookup culture is bad i'm a relationship girl but i prostitute myself i don't
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think you're lying but not facing that inherent conflict in your stated values is pathetic
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virtuously bankrupt do you think the money is worth do you have a response to giovanni um i mean i
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think you can be a relationship person i and also do what i do which i'm not a prostitute really quick
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before i have uh dominica dominica okay i got it yes you got it uh because you said in a voice note
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i'm a good girlfriend yes i'd be spoiling i okay but if you but if you're signing up to date me you
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already know what you're getting into whether it's filming with me or me filming with other people and i
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probably wouldn't expect a man that's a normal man like not doing content to let me go film with other
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people i wouldn't expect that isn't he like isn't any guy who's willing to date a woman who
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does porn isn't he like a cuck i mean i'll i'm a cuck i'll cuck my boyfriend i don't care
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it's mutual and if they're into that they're into that they're not always into that but i guess it's
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like i'm a good girlfriend yes you fuck other men on camera but i'm a very loving person i like
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give all the gifts i like i feel like i'm a good girlfriend it's so central but to you i mean look
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i know there's different someone for everyone and it's not like cheating and whatnot if you're
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if he's agreeing with it there's different it's not their fault he's agreeing with it it's kind of
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like ladies the boyfriend's you signed up for it you signed up for the boyfriend's great he spoils
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you he treats you perfectly you get along great but i'm not cheating on no one but he cheats on you
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but i'm not cheating an open relationship is with consent and they know that and yeah but here's the
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here's the difference here's the difference i'm open to an open hold on here's the difference so
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a girl who does porn she'll date a civilian guy who doesn't do porn she'll be fucking other men for
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her i would maybe stop uh hold on she'll be fucking other men for her work if he were to go out and
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just fuck a chick another civilian that would be cheating on his end no that he can steal he can do
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it if he wants it's just that i would want him to be safe about it because that can put my job
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up culture um i mean essentially what it is okay but like i don't i'm not like with the people i
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don't know i'm i like i like the commitment i don't i don't have really an issue with people doing what
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they want if he has if he wants to go do that while like you know it's it adults can do what they want
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what is commitment to in your opinion like you know relationship like you but what a relationship to
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me is like a commitment and then they're like very specific stated boundaries and their self-denial
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because the person i'm with has to deny themselves all these other types of things how they spend
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their time who they spend their time with who they share their body with because i feel special and
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i want them to feel special and i want our bond to be unique to us and so when you're like oh it's
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commitment it's like well but that's just friendship you're describing friendship um i wouldn't consider
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that friendship because i feel like if you're like with that partner you're like living with them
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you're doing it's like they're your partner but then you guys and it's also if it's for work i would
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not i'm not the type of person to have open relationship outside of my job i'm not really into
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that i don't get pleasure from going and being with a bunch of people it's just like my job so yeah and
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i think that's fine but do you think the type of men who would do who would be with you are going to
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have the values you want like what if a guy will let you do all that stuff what kind of values do
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you think he values in a woman himself well i wouldn't expect like like you like he said most
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of them are cucks if they if they are okay with that but if i was to date a civilian which i might but
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i would probably just film with them or something because i think that if he doesn't want that yeah if
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he doesn't want that what you do film with them but if he doesn't want to be filmed then i wouldn't
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include him okay yeah interesting yeah i have to that's like my job and i also like you know what
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i mean sure i have one can i ask one more question sure i was just wondering would you be comfortable
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if you had kids right now to be doing your job well i don't know when i'll have kids and if i had kids
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right now i would have be they'd be very like i'm 21 i'd have to be having babies at like 18 but um
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i mean most i would be comfortable with that it's just that most almost every single content
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creator i know has kids i go hang out with like the other people i know they're like they got a
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six-year-old they got a six-year-old some of the guys i know they have 20 year olds they have like
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so many kids depending on how old they are everybody has a baby mom like most sws have a kid and but
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they're not married and they some of them are married some of them are married some of them are in
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relationships a lot of the time i'm not gonna lie like i filmed with like i filmed with four people this
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week and i think two of them are in one of them's married and one of them is in a like a committed
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relationship carnal knowledge with four people this week i have no idea what sex but i do agree
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with what she's saying i'm like a portion yeah a lot of people that i know that are very big content
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creator like in london and stuff and melons are married or having children the man is just a house
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man he just lays down get the money he doesn't care you keep you keep so i think men are getting very
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feminine and women getting very manly at this point i do got to move things on a little bit
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they're not public about it but most of them are married going to yeah agree going to peachy here uh
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you said that you love that brian advocates for big labia women i do hashtag big
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labia matter i think it's and i i think on that on the other flip side of that foreskins matter too i
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think that like judging a person on their genitals i got mine removed it's just ridiculous especially
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when i have a picture of it as well you got labioplasty and i got a picture of that i i wanted to take it
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home on strong water as well oh my god i got pictures of that so i wanted to take them home as
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well in strong water yes it would be so funny i have pictures of that as well i can send it to you
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later you can pop it in later no they were so big it was hurting me what as well you know if
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i wear like a g-string like that lace top they got stuck in between so when the inseam on denim
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shorts is your biggest enemy and when i was just wearing like a bikini it would look like a dick
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between my legs that is how big they were you know when a chihuahua gets really old and its tongue
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hangs out it's mouth i swear to god that's what you guys are looking like is that what's going on
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a whole new road that's an overstatement they were just like really really really big really big you
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can make a whole new highway with that they were too big you were darling they are you have to do
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like nope and you're perfect like see some open now now how you call it over your gates you have to
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like pull them apart i've been i've been catfished by girls they're like hey brian i've got a big i'm
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gonna show you pictures after that you will be like oh damn bro no you will be like oh damn okay
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i just appreciate that you advocate for all these girls claiming you cannot no you cannot
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even have normal sex they've got a midi no wait when he puts his dick in the lady will also go in
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i would like it hurts he's up it hurts he was up yes and it looks like a dick when i
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oh stop you're fine they were dead big they removed on each side like this sort of part it
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it probably wasn't even i have picture you will you will be sorry for this one is that big if
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you're a woman and you're listening to this you're perfect just stay as you are are you also on the
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dude i hit him straight up who just whatever she's got going on she's just like yeah this is
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what it's about if you are a woman and you are in pain please do something about it don't get a
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labiaplasty don't do it please do if you are in pain it's your body don't do it don't do it don't do it
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yeah look some girls they can have discomfort or whatever exactly but i think a lot of girls they
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just feel insecure about it to be honest yeah but if you are in pain sure it's a weird thing to be
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insecure about too i don't think god i can't imagine a guy looking at it nope that's like a guy with a
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big dick and he's like oh it's kind of uncomfortable shrink down my dick like yeah yeah i got dick
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pussy okay keep it the only guy i've ever heard talk crap about big labias was that
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comedian guy right yeah oh oh i love i love that i will debate him on labia for hell yeah
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bring him in here for the blm team i want to be here as well show him all the pictures oh my god
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yes i will i would take them with me on strong water oh my god it would be so funny
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big big big labia yeah i only i only date women with big labia so oh that goes my chance rip
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hopefully she can undo her labiaplasty with her good personality
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stretching them out every night yeah you're gonna have to um you said that you play world of warcraft
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but we need you need to talk to payo you yeah you are you down for him i could listen no listen hold
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on we're buddies because i was but you were you were like bringing him up to the girls and like
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none of them could appreciate you know like and then and then you showed the keyboard oh yeah and
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yeah that was bad that was bad that was really bad really bad red black that's why he needs a woman
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in his life though to help out with the household i guess yeah you should date him i could listen i used
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to heal i used to heal and i hear he's a tank so oh wait he's a tank he said he was a he was a tank
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he mostly plays rogue and hunter oh who was i thinking about them oh i don't know anyways um
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i can get you linked up with payo he's oh my god you should i don't know that keyboard was uh let's
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see what about asmund gold do you know asmund gold i yeah yeah i actually watch him a lot he's
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he's pretty funny okay uh let's see who else the notes do we have oh vivian okay uh vivian
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dating topics if a young woman dates an older man for money is that prostitution yeah you like said it
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earlier which is funny you like brought that extinct like the same question so what do you think
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um is it prostitution i kind of well no no i would i would say it isn't but like i'm pretty open
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minded like i genuinely kind of don't know so that's why i'm asking people okay uh
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if you exchange goods or services for access to your body in a situation where you wouldn't they
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would not have access to you sans goods and services then you are doing sex work yeah so
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like when people say oh i i like i have a sugar daddy and then they act like they're sugaring
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sugaring is a different word for prostitution just modern you're just a you're just a
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work you're a prostitute with a regular client yeah but then how do like
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but it's just the same thing as saying i'm a content creator no we are just horse on the internet
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yeah yeah i'm actually like covering up a name yeah so it's just like modern prostitution so and
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i can't say that because i'm on sugar daddy side as well it's just modern so but what about i mean
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like i i don't like if it is of the nature of women to be attracted to successful men
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because they have money is that like i don't think there's anything wrong if a woman's attracted to
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a guy because he's successful it's not that we fall in love i think i think what i think good
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women are attracted to success i think bad women are attracted to money success doesn't necessarily
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correlate to money you you know a guy could be let's say an olympic gold medalist sprinter
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and there's not a lot of money in that he's just he makes like you know a middle class income and
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there could be thousands of women that are like this super athlete is so hot i want to date him he's
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well respected yada yada but he doesn't have money whereas there could be a guy who just like
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inherited millions of dollars and they're like you're successful you're hot he's not successful
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they're attracted to to money material and well met oh lol paladins donated two hundred dollars
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and two cents i don't think she should date pay yo she's too old for what he prefers like game
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of thrones too old if you know what i mean yikes wait like game of thrones i don't too
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payo you're gonna let him talk about you like that all right thank you uh lol paladins appreciate it
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man uh okay so i guess i do have a question for you though sure am i yeah why is everything nowadays
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sugar-coated like i'm a portion i'm very open about it honestly i'm on sugar daddy's side as well
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but like i just said why is everything nowadays so offensive why do i have to say like i'm a content
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creator no we are porn stars why do is everything in life has a different name i'm not a person no
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in the world i mean in the world to calm down a little bit but why is it everything is are you
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gonna let isis are you gonna let her talk yeah i'm so sorry please good girl very good girl
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either way dominated either way why is everything so sugar-coated like this yeah daddy arrangement it's
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like a modern day of x-course thing obviously i see it that way maybe because i'm dodging very direct
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but why is everything has is it because of social media you cannot say porn star well so why is it
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called a little bit she is a content creator by all means because he makes videos for fun and
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entertainment like not in a porn star way i see that more as a content creator influencer that i am i'm just
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a porn star why am i a content creator in the name if i am a porn star and i also create content even if
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my content is related to my body or luring men in if i see myself as a creative as an artist i should
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be able to put that on my bio and that's not sugar coating it's just presenting it the way i want to
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be perceived it would be like saying i'm not an assassin i'm a cleaner no that's totally different why
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i clean up people's messes like but i asked him the question but you're trying to sugarcoat it yeah
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yeah i asked him the question you want the non-negative connotation for the thing you're
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doing maybe because i'm dutch and we are very direct why do you think that why is everything so
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oh my god i cannot offend other people when i say that we have to come up with a different name
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why well i don't know if this is answering your question but you're talking like there's the sugar
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sugar baby sugar daddy escorting so i mean there's this idea of the euphemism treadmill
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so a term will be deemed defensive then a new term will replace it but after enough use that term
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will now be deemed defensive so for example it probably started out as like whoring prostitution
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then it went into escorting and now it's sugar like being a sugar baby they're essentially the
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same things that's what basically why is there a different name every time well i think escorting
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has a stigma now and prostitution had a stigma now escorting has a stigma now it's like i'm a sugar baby
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which has conceivably less stigma but you're still essentially a whore yeah and i do not disagree
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with that or judge woman on it i'm on sugar daddy side i don't care but we are more direct with it i
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do not understand why this has to be a different name every time why are you so ashamed for what
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you're doing if you're doing girl do it get that money we don't care but why do you have to like
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sugarcoat it like oh my god no no no i'm not escorting it's like sugar why if you want sugar go to the
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supermarket i don't get it yeah probably just maybe because i'm dutch i do not it's probably
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it's probably uh just has to do with the uh whole stigma thing well a question for you would you oops
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because you're dutch what the fuck would you date geert wilders who's that do you have a picture you
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don't know geert do you have a picture nick could you here please tell me a picture i'll put i'll put
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in the private chat um once he has a private chat as well oh my god he's dutch really you don't know
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gear to wall oh oh my god it's not geared it's geared but do you know cherry baudet i know he
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followed me right cherry baudet dutch politician who has led the right wing no no wait wait wait
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put it put us on the other side no no look up cherry baudet look up cherry baudet he follows me on
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instagram as well well he's hot as fuck is he a politician yeah we should have been doing a
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podcast together with the tape brothers as well but he's hot but geert is selected as well to become
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the president of the netherlands but now he doesn't because it's weird but he's very right
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he's very people label him as a racist stuff but we are dutch so we have very racist humor as well we
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roast people for a living but we do not have that sort of feelings like oh my god you have my feelings we
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do not have that so i don't know i think he will never what is the there's a specific thing with
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the way that dutch have like worded insults it's like canker or wait uh conquer soy tearing liar
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yeah we we we will curse you out with the worst illnesses you can imagine i will wish death upon you
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i will wish you cancer your mother cancer that your children die and we will just laugh about it we
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were like haha that's so funny oh my god i'm gonna read when i hit my elbow to someone i was like
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cancer and that's weird i'm gonna read three chats and we'll get to the next notes we have blah fest
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i'm a traditional trusting and loving man i love my wife and my two girlfriends so much i don't think
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i have in my heart to cheat on them do you need another girlfriend i can be your third that was worth
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the hundred dollars yeah do you need another girlfriend banger joke all right we have old
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man marine thanks we have old man marine oh can i have you read this uh peachy polygamy is illegal
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but there are many men and women out there with multiple marriages children with different people
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and fucking anyone not much of a difference basically a polygamous society old man marine
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good to see you back in the chat man thank you for the uh message really appreciate it thank you
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you then we have warlord 69 doing only fans is oh i'll have you read it go ahead oh sorry doing
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only fans is prostitution by definition ladies i will only accept a woman that will bow i will not
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help you in the woods unless you are ready for the woods i will be on our oh wait nobody's choosing
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the men everybody's choosing the bears so you're not going to be in the no i choose the man well okay
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i know hello came up i'll ask the question oh starting with isis so here's the scenario you are
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magically transported into the woods now you can choose to either have a random man also magically
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transported to the woods or a random bear magically transport into the woods and in this scenario you
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are going to cross paths with either the man or the bear i think can you strain your mic a little
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bit is there more is that all the conditions and so there's no motivation why is the man in the
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woods it's just like you random man random man transported into the woods the bear i would choose
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to pick the bear what about you the man okay what about you the man you will die if you fight a bear
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have you seen those things i don't want to fight which do you pick the man man man you can scoot
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into the table a little bit sorry i'm an average man but i've been in the woods with bears because
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i go hiking a lot and you just go and make a noise and they're like oh that's big and scary okay so
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you pick the man or the bear i guess the average man like from random man off the street if i don't
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have to have to deal with it i have to deal with them it's random you don't know maybe i mean likely
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i don't think they're gonna hurt me what about you the man what do you pick shane well yeah dude i
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hike i see if we if you all go hiking right now the scenario plays out you'll walk by many random
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men and everything's fine let's be honest you men really with this question in the back of your
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mind as a man i think every man thinks like i can take on a bear oh for sure yeah just in the back
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of their mind it will be like i think i can take down a bear i would try yeah exactly
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maybe a black bear a man for sure okay why do you pick a bear be loud because at least with the
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bear they'll just kill me uh okay i get the point but so so the question then um i don't want to
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face the consequence of the men but so you're doing a risk assessment so you're saying well yeah not
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all men would attack me but the risk is high enough by picking a man that i think i'm more likely
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to be attacked by the man as compared to the bear not not so much i think there's a higher likelihood
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and probably like probability that there the man won't hurt me and it's safer than the bear however
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in the case that the man is a worst man and a bad man a man like i mentioned in the past
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he will be afraid of you that man will be so afraid of you oh my god the worst he can do is a
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thousand times worse than what a bear could do to me so i for me personally of course some people
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this is gambling problem right some people want to do with go with the higher probability i want to go
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with the better death so bears eat you while you're still alive but you know what i think like i will
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kill myself you know i can kill myself and i but if you are tied up by a man and you know i don't
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want to violate anything i you cannot you cannot you know the man in the woods with you is snidely
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whiplash he's gonna tie you up and put you on the train tracks that's all i'm saying probability
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game okay so that's my choice well so then what percentage of men do you think would be inclined to
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uh attack you or victimize you in some way i don't know but that's what we're asking so you're
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doing a risk assessment i don't know 50 the question is meant to make a point i think like
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realistically like he said you go hiking in the woods i go hiking a lot um like you cross a lot
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of random men and you're just like you're you're good i'm i'm not dead but the thing is like it's
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meant to make a point that like even a cruel animal that will eat you while you're alive will still not
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like do some of the assault type things that like men yes kind of subject so if i even if i'll just
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go ahead and grant that yeah there are there are very few monstrous men out there uh but the the
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question is then um given this you're willing to you'd rather be with a bear then in all likelihood
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if you just select a random man out of the population totally harmless would never hurt you
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would probably even help you in some sort of forest survival situation there's a woman that tied
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herself to the top of tree for three months and that's after it was everybody was after her there's
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police men and everything so in this scenario if there's a bear i can just live on the trees and
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i can survive that but if but there's a man next to me and i'm on a tree that man can get me
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how do you tie yourself are so good at climbing by the way i just want to say that real quick
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they've super climbed so much i've been in a tree stand and had a bear come up i never hike so i do
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not know how do you do that i do not hike so i do not know that like bear climb the tree but i feel
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like in a forest you could find like a safe spot but when you have a human intelligence to trace your
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steps it's a higher likelihood especially bad very wishing vicious man can be very smart too you know
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what about what about like you hang out with a what if you hang out with a random man and then
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take him home would you rather take the random man home at night or a bear
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like what's more likely to happen because he's a stranger you're having a one night stand
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how are you any safer than everything exists in the context it's very like sensationalized it's just meant
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to kind of like i mean it the question is not like i feel like literal almost do you know what
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i mean yeah most people i think most people like it's like well realistically yeah but i get the point
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that they're trying to make when they ask they are just afraid of sexual assault yes exactly
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please don't be naive a bear will not do that to you like there's a lot more than sexual assault
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i was talking further right so you'd rather be your tips a little bit well they could kill you at the end
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i think you're all of your ex you're so right human beings are so much more cruel than any animal
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could be we're capable of wild horrible things every one of us went to school we've read history we
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know how bad people can be the con the idea is that women very smugly want to say that they feel
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safer in the forest with a bear which just seems intellectually inconsistent because almost all women
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are alone with men very often and if i put you in a room with a bear like jackass style you would
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lose your mind like i said it exists in the context if i'm going out partying i'm conversing with this
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person i as this person has friends i assume he's a functioning social member but in the woods when
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there's a likelihood of you running into a psychopath you don't know and you're trapped together so it's like
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you know you have serial killers in the club from the bottom of my heart i truly believe that the
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chances of a man hiking being more normal than a guy at like a party or a bar is so much i'm not
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talking about hiking people what his question is he's dropping a random man so like anybody on this
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world have equal probability however in a bar it's more likely that people who are not psychopaths
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have friends and talking to you like a normal person this is about you know a lot of psycho killers and
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stuff are just the most friendly nice neighbors good in a neighborhood had a lot of friends don't
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you think there would be more dangerous men in a party setting rather than going on a hike though
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but that's what i'm saying i think hiking men there would be danger and partying men have danger to what
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you said is correct but i'm saying that the question didn't ask you hiking and you ran into a hiking
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man and rest you are dropping a random man you're lost in the woods too a random man so like
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you you are a bad person or a good good man or bad man it's equal likely you know but if you get
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lost in the woods it is a random man that rescues you that's true so i mean he is random you don't
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know him he's a stranger not always i mean i guess it's different it's like you're trapped in an island
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there's nobody rescue or whatever okay situation it's not hiking okay all right i feel like it gets
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kind of misinterpreted like i don't think it's it's very much like not literal because of course like
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a random man is you know a bear is probably more likely to kill you um just based on
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what yeah it happened a couple months ago here in california right yeah so it's more yeah it's more i
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feel about like there are genuinely women that that feel that way like because they've just had
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awful personal experiences and it's usually just like it's not like usually a bunch of men it's
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usually like one man can make you answer it that way it's interesting that the question is framed
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in such a way that like kind of tries to belittle men or make us feel like we're bad
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when you're reaching out to like express how you've been hurt and how scary men are to you
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and you're doing it in a way that antagonizes men instead of a way that like makes men understand you
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and want to be better yeah that's the whole problem with the internet discourse around men and women
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it's like you don't have to try and dunk on us over a bear you could just say hey a lot of men really
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scare me and i wouldn't want to be alone with one and i want you to be better all the time
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we say that you guys don't listen it's not i just think it's sexist to be honest yeah
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i think it's inflammatory every single person i know in their life a lot of people didn't give
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their first time away consensually and it's always pushed and the line is really blurry because you
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don't know what's true what's not because when you say no they keep you know aren't you the one
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hopping men in clubs huh i don't hop on men in clubs speak for yourself you're dancing i mean
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you didn't describe earlier like kissing someone and you're like and so i inferred that he was into
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it i started groping all over him yeah i see that's a sexual assault as well yeah i thought you said hop
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on that no i'm telling you like we're making out it makes sense that's the next logical step because
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you so in your mind you made it into something dirty you just said we were making out it was the
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next logical step that i grabbed his so you accept so couldn't the guy say the same thing we're making
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out and he froze you were scared she's like she's grabbing my dick because when i move my hand next
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to his thigh he put his hand on me to move closer to the penis and when someone when i don't want
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someone when they touch my shoulder it's obvious these signs are obvious and you guys don't listen i don't
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think consent always has to be like hey let's check the yes or no box like i think that it's kind of
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like um i mean there's like a nuance to it yeah exactly and you're just saying like black and white
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so okay so anyways um i do think though it is interesting because i'll grant you that plenty
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of women have had poor experiences with some men yeah but like the overwhelming majority of men are
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totally safe it's not you're allowing one bad experience from somebody to soil a whole group
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of people which sounds you know like sexism racism like any of that you know women talk about like
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their issues with men and like assault they're usually not targeting the men that are not doing
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it but men always feel attacked can i ask you a question if you put the question in the other way
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around you're dropped in the forest with a bear and another woman you do not know because a lot
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of women are also psychopathical killers narcissists and everything would you still choose the bear
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or is that sexist i mean because you will probably go to the women right because a woman is not that
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dangerous as a man you can answer that god if you want i think that like like i said like logically
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like i would pick the the man because it's a random lady she's probably not going to do that but
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like the question the point of question is to make a like like make a point and i think that you
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switch it to a woman i still would say the same thing but so instead of just saying like because okay
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if for example uh 90 of men i don't know the actual number probably more than 90 percent 95 who
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knows the number let's just say it's 90 of men totally harmless would never hurt a woman whatever i
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don't think that i feel like you think it's more i think more i think a lot of men like i don't i also
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like i mean a lot of women are victims and a lot of men are victims but like i most of the women i
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know have been a victim to some kind of thing i don't know many men that would say that but i think
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as a woman we talk about it because we want to help other women and i think a lot of men get assaulted
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as well her or an abusive relationship the killing rate of men are much higher than women so i think men
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do not speak about it so we do not know the exact numbers of how bad women can be i think we as a
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a woman can be horrible yeah yes but why do your men are afraid to talk about it because of the
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patriarchy because it's not i don't think it's the patriarch it is it's because men are who is
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shaming these men saying oh you should have liked it you should have it's the a lot of men get raped
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assaults they the numbers that men are killing us are so much higher than women why do you think that
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is men i just i don't understand like so you think that there's like men broadly speaking are like kind
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of fine with i've heard this term there's that there's a grape culture is that what you're talking
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about um not really but i mean i do i do think misunderstanding no i don't i don't i don't know
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i don't think it's i think that it happens a lot like very often like people do experience things like
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that um i would say like if it's brought to the attention people usually like average person is
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probably like hey that's not okay but like it i feel like it does happen a lot and people are likely to
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try to silence a woman say oh she wants like like i don't know like epstein or like any kind of
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famous person or like all these different cases you know what i mean like they are likely to say oh
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the woman just wants attention the woman like is trying like shut her down yeah they they say she
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wanted to get something out of this like that's what the yeah i think that but i do think that a
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lot of the time men do experience the same issues as women they're less likely to talk about it
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because people will shame them and that's why they don't talk about it but i think there's a lot
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more women yes i definitely for sure think it's a lot more women um that that experience it but
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statistically like that doesn't make and there's yeah and there's plenty of of men who get falsely
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accused of these sort of things and it absolutely ruins their life it's insane but i don't really
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think that i don't think more women's lives are ruined by men in terms of this the men's lives i don't
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more proportionally like i i mean i really don't think false accusations like i mean look at the
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news you really don't think what i don't think they're that that often they're don't it's super
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common no false accusations it's pretty common it also affects minority communities much more than
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white communities so when people are like uh do you know patrice o'neill yeah i do so patrice o'neill
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super famous comedian one of the funniest comedians r.i.p patrice o'neill so he um he dated a
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white woman or hooked up with a white white woman and there was like some component of judgment from
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her peer group this was probably back in the 80s or 90s that she hooked up with a black guy
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and instead of just dealing with the regret she falsely accused him of essay and he i think he went
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to jail and how do they know it's false how do you know that these men actually essayed you say
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why would i lie about you why would hold on why would you lie about this yes why there's a lot
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yeah yeah people lie about all kinds of women murder people has a girl ever lied about you has a girl
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ever made up some about you yes but this is a serious accusation this is not this is
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people lie i agree women lie all the time about this women lie about who got them pregnant do lie
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but please tell me why someone would what are you do you know how much you have to do you know how
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much you stand to gain from a lie they get so much hate and these women they get pressured with like
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lawsuits and all this insane what do you mean they get victim points they get victim points
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this is not you're assuming a woman wants to be victim they get to people who get to indulge in
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their victim identity it's literally like why like they get silenced so quickly and people hate
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one no they literally don't that's your perspective as a giovanni jade he donated
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so real you're one of those like uh man literally admitted and bragged about essay on camera 90 minutes
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ago and is now backing off it straight to jail they're not sending their best folks also chick next to
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pink has a tummy ache oh oh also i was gonna say is that like calling me fat no no no no no
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maybe he's talking about like a face you're making or something i don't know rbf um yeah giovanni
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thank you for the tts okay so you're about to call me a men's rights activist what would actually be
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wrong with being a men's right there's nothing wrong with that but the thing is a lot of these men
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yeah so yeah i stand up for men who are falsely accused you should too as a woman because women
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right now hold on but women who make false accusations discredit women who actually are
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victims of these things it makes it harder for it makes it harder for them to get justice
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so i think uh essay is a fucking terrible crime awful crime they should be prosecuted to the full
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fullest extent of the law but also women will make false accusations too and that this is an issue for
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men that needs to be addressed but you know what is it is like really ridiculous whenever a woman
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brings up any kind of sexual assault or any kind of anything like that men immediately go instead
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of being like oh that's really bad they go what about men what about men shut up exactly what about
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men are you talking about twitter or real life portion real life i do kind of second that in my
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experience men kind of really really defensive they do big sass energy donated two hundred dollars
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trevor bauer the baseball player falsely accused of essay major recent case got kicked out of the mlb
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woman absolutely do this stuff all don't say all the time okay then you list five assault right now
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five sexual assault men that were wrongly accused i can i can say 10 i can say 12 i can say 20 right now
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uh trevor bauer patrice o'neal there was um i think kobe was falsely accused the jackson five
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um or the central park five weren't they sent falsely accused oh oh here's a friend here's a good
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one uh who is that um wait wait hold on uh oh man this was like in the like she's been trying to talk
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wait wait um it like essentially started the civil rights uh huh no what it was this emmett till
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emmett till this was a 14 year old boy and i guess he was going to a gas station or something
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and he made a comment towards a white woman this is in the deep south she goes and tells her family
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that this 14 year old boy said something kind of whatever hit on her whatever spoke to her didn't
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didn't touch her didn't say her just spoke said something that uh uh i guess there's a race there's
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racism component to this too so she tells this lie who knows why and then her family lynches him kills him
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and beats him to a pulp 14 year old boy gets lynched and then on her death bed confesses that it was
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all a lie that is a very sad story i'm i'm it's very unfortunate it happened it shouldn't happen but you
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keep listing individual cases where men were wrongly accused and then women women women were you asked me to
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give you you asked me to give you and then and then like the thing is but i can list hundreds of
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women who are sexually assaulted so if we're weighing the women are hurt so much more there's a few cases
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of men getting like that but we also in both of the examples i mean i'm not trying to like here
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do a tit for tat comparison hold on i'm not trying to do a tit for tat comparison here but like i have
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not committed to memory like every single i've heard of hundreds of instances of men who've been
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falsely accused hundreds of instances i don't commit them to memory but like yeah go ahead oh
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well i was gonna say i just feel like there's a difference when you're talking about essay you're
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saying it's such a small amount of men and it's just like irrational that women would be choosing the
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bear um or like making that point but but you're so quick to say false accusations happen all the
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time they do yeah well i would just say like the numbers they're either comparable or rape must be
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higher because it's yeah it's a more common crime and like like it's it's still in sorry well they've
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done there's been various analysis and studies on this they typically put the rate of false accusations
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anywhere from eight percent to forty five percent in some studies i don't really i don't know fine
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you don't have to believe it but those are some of the studies that have been done but like an agreed
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upon number is eight percent okay well listen so i've experienced a lot of really bad stuff in my
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lifetime okay and the man scot-free nothing happened to him he's had a whole girlfriend did you go to the
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police no but i was a child and these men get away with it that's okay well i mean i obviously object
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to child abuse but like i'm not saying that this stuff doesn't happen but we're talking this is all
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within the context of the bear conversation and you guys are saying well the the risk is so so
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significant no it's not of essay what do you mean it's not significant like we've all pretty much like
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the the statistics like we know it's not it's not likely to happen it's not as likely it's the
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women have an emotional you know emotional damage from men okay so here i have to wrap up on the bear
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thing did you have something on this i don't even remember anymore well hold on so i'm i gotta move on
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from this but so i guess where i'm going with all this is my view is to say bear it's essentially you're
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just being sexist towards men because if i were to give you a scenario if we just change it to
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would you rather be in the forest with a pale and well met lol paladins donated two hundred dollars
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and two cents prove that women like constantly go ahead was was you just said you could name
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one hundreds of women go ahead we are waiting you've currently named zero lie some more you just lied to
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win an argument she's behind the scenes she heard it while paladins um one sec so uh anyways it's not
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really like i'm not trying to do like a competition she asked me to name some i named a couple i have
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this is not like my primary talking point here um in fact it rarely comes up on the show but it came up
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tonight um i've heard from i've heard so many stories especially in college this is crazy how they handle it in
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college title nine these men are absolutely just like losing their college careers over like dubious
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accusations um in any case uh look if genuinely happens i think these men ought to be prosecuted
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to the fullest extent of the law but i also believe in innocent until proven guilty and uh it very much
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seems when it comes to these specific kinds of accusations innocent until proven guilty is totally thrown out
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the window so i do just have to say on this bear thing so you i'll grant that you've had bad
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experiences with men but to then go ahead and just have this sort of general bias against men is like
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well as long as you just say you're sexist okay you'll have to also say for example if we put a black
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man in this situation would you rather be in the forest with a black man or a bear and you pick bear
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you're gonna have to be racist if no if that was actually true that that people like had a reason
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to be threatened by another race of people then it would be true but women are physically so let me ask
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you a lot of reasons let me ask you a question so let's say i had a bad experience with a black man
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and then from there on out i held a bias against all black men i was fearful of them i was scared
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they're gonna attack me i would like get away from them i wouldn't associate with them wouldn't be
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friends with them wouldn't do business with them whatever it is would that be racist um if i had
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you hate if you hate another race of people if you think they're inferior then that is racist so if
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that's if that's what you're describing then yeah is it what i'm describing what uh you said like you
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avoid okay i'll make it really simple if somebody has one negative experience with a black person
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and because of that one negative experience they then um they're scared of black people in general
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is that racist um yeah i would say that okay so then it's sexist for women who have had one bad
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experience with men not one okay fine three it's like no but i don't think you understand that women
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experience like like small cuts like like you know death by a thousand cuts it's like always
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something that yeah there's men who are annoying men can just never understand like
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men can never understand how women like yeah you get a lot of creepy attention from men we get it
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no you actually don't because you're not a woman and you haven't grown up as like as a girl and like
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the amount of like men that will like look at you and your child like yes it's genuinely true
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wait no no no hold on actually actually if you look at what's going on in the school system you have
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a bunch of women who are essaying underage children male children but there's a lot more
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male predators oh no there's way more female teachers there's way more female teachers there's
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way more female teachers who are essaying children can i still say something all right can i say
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something because it's quite a fiery topic at the moment first i want to start it's horrible what
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happened to you i hope later in life they still get them i think the system loss system will get
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there eventually so i hope you get the closure you need some eventually to start off uh i'm studying
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law and i see a lot of twisted stories and a lot of those stories in the courtroom are about falsely
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accused men women that go out with fake ideas fake everything i don't do not say that every woman does
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i just say it happens uh i think that's wrong i think that's very wrong as well i think a lot of
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men do not speak out because of shame i think if as a woman we have something happening to us
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we do not always speak out right away that's why you have stories like a year later or two years later
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that you finally have the courage to speak about what happened to you and you are very brave if you
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finally do with men it's the same thing men are not monsters they have feelings sometimes as well
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takes time for men to speak out i think that's why the numbers aren't there yet and i think also we
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live in a time it's very hard to be a man sometimes because if you give a compliment in this time of age
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to one like hey you smell very nice it's like oh my god don't talk to me i have a boyfriend that's
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sexual assault i think the time we are living in is very confusing for both parts we want to have
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boundaries want to be respectful to ourselves but in the same time it's very hard to be human and talk
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like hey girl you look nice today it's like oh my god why you talk to me like do you like sexualize
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me no girl just being honest you look great today you know it's very hard sometimes to be a man as well
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so i think we have to look at both made ways men are not all monsters i see grown-ass men cry about
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everything and stuff so and the same as woman calm down i think the numbers aren't there yet because
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men are so ashamed so so ashamed i think a man looks at himself and thinks of himself as less of a man
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for something like that to happen and there's a very as a woman we do as well right we are so ashamed
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when something happens to us our womanhood is taking away we do not feel as a woman anymore
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think about it in your head a man would feel probably the same like damn i just froze we we
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froze when something some people freeze when something happens to you like why would i let
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that happen to me i just laid there and didn't do because you froze you're scared it's like
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people react that way some men have the same response that's what i see in the courtroom
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just freeze they just freeze old man marine donated two hundred dollars where's the video of the man
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saving the women from drowning would you rather swim with sharks or be picked up by a random man in a
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boat okay who picks shark who would rather be in the ocean with a shark than a random man in a boat
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okay uh the sharks are so scary they just defeated the whole question
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old uh old man marine thank you for the message we have another one coming in here and then we have
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two more chats stinky da magic poo it's known fact is social sociology circles that women abuse
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the elder and children more frequently than men it's just never talked about because it's faux pas
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to present anything female in poor light and then there is something kind of related to the bear thing
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here um for example like women commit the vast majority of uh neo naticide so if we use the
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same logic in the man versus bear thing could we conclude that it's safer to entrust a baby with a
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bear than the baby's own mother anyways i don't know that came to mind we have two chats we have oh there's
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another one can you read this one drop your diocese number no eucharist i'll read it because it's about
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me shane talking about receiving nudes and hooking up drop your diocese number no eucharist for you
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see you at confession or your exorcist 300 hail mary's please firstly i genuinely need to go to
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confession i am not a perfect catholic and i'm a new catholic and it's very hard to meet the
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expectations and i will try for the rest of my life and fail probably a lot secondly um i'm talking
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about the past i was secular for 36 years man give me a break here and we have uh lol paladins
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was was needs to stay away from casinos random man does not mean equality likely to hurt you has not
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hurt you that isn't what random means unless you think 50 of men are grapers
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random man does not mean equally likely to hurt you who's who's that i think her
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maybe thank you lol paladins for that uh peachy can have you read these sure 25 to 30 percent of dna
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tests and family court turn out to be the father is not the husband that's also very true i see this
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a lot in the courtroom i also see this a lot it's very sad because if it gets to family court something
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must have happened if they took a dna test something there must be like suspicion so in that
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like denominator it's just a larger group of people that are you know have a hard chance of adultery so
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it's like that's not an accurate representation of the world but if a man cheats on his wife he's
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horrible but if a woman that's not my point all right uh we have jj mad can you read this one
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sorry adhd the woman versus bear question is literally the smoking
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i can't say that for why women should never have the right to vote damn okay all right there you go
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thank you jj mad um appreciate it bro appreciate it thank you for the soup chat i think women should
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be allowed to vote but they should also be drafted so um so there you have it uh back to the notes
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i wanted to say about that back to the notes here uh going back to vivian you said you had hosts you
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had disagreements uh on abortion i thought you were i thought andrew was going to be here and he is
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like a lot more political so okay well i'll i don't know what you're like oh okay okay so sure andrew's
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pro-life yeah okay what's your uh pro-choice position then so my position is if the baby could be um
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um or fetus whatever you want to call it could be removed from the woman's body and still survive
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then i think you should not have an abortion but otherwise i think if you if the baby if the fetus
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baby needs to like be in this in here to survive sorry i would to survive i would say that that is
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bodily autonomy sure well so if it's sorry right if it's incubating in a woman then it doesn't deserve
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to live if it's incubating in a machine it does deserve to live i don't think that it's at a i
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think i do like kind of compare like a very early stage fetus to like a bug like it probably has the
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same amount of brain cells and ability to like survive like we don't we don't prosecute for killing
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bugs yeah i just don't okay well um just before we get into it and we won't linger too long on the
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abortion topic but just shove hands who's pro-choice pro-choice pro-life
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wait but you also raised yeah it's because like yeah in a perfect world it'd be great if we could be
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pro-life you know what i mean but we don't live in a perfect world so if you illegalize it people just
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do stupid stuff like hurt themselves so they don't have to have a baby it's ridiculous i get her
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point because i think if you're like sexually assaulted and you're under age and everything
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like that and you're also going to have a baby with that it's oh that's hard and but i'm also very
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pro-life okay the baby doesn't know i do have because it was rape but sure i think if it's like
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under age and you're raped and everything and you're not careful guys that's true but you get my
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point of view like it's hard i think it's the woman's choice then what you wanted to do
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this is what i mean but in the same way i'm very pro-life it's not her so i'm like in between at
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the moment but so i mean who shove hands who's pro-choice again i don't know okay well i guess
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on that thing really quick um the thing is with i guess the pro-choice thing i would suspect that
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if people who are pro-life actually allow to cut out for well okay most of them are fine with like
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mother's life is at risk you can get an abortion um but then if they were like okay in the case of
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like incest or essay yeah under those circumstances then you can i don't think they would make that
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compromise though like because they would still want abortion rights for women who just
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don't really feel like that as a man if you are very very pro-life um and there's nothing wrong
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with that i do not disagree would you also play child support when it's still an infant because
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it's alive right would you also pay that nine months of child support already because it's already
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alive right just there is curiosity i mean that that is that is an argument that gets brought up but
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uh i mean i would more more so be interested in asking the pro-choice women uh should men pay child
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support before the baby's born assuming the mother wants to keep the child and you don't
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i'm asking the question to the pro-choice um before the baby is born yeah should the man have
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to pay child support no like medical you gotta you you gotta be into the microphone then for medical
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expenses like during the pregnancy um honestly i haven't really thought about that but
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do you think yeah you think men should so child support mean means what
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well it's child i mean you could definitely how soon into the pregnancy should men pay child support
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hold on hold on how soon into the pregnancy because as a woman you can find out you're pregnant
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you can find out you're pregnant at six weeks right once you're what's once the baby is born
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well okay that's the standard though but should men pay child support prior to the birth i mean i
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don't think that's like a pressing issue you only carry a baby for nine months
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do you think they should it's a should question it's such a small thing yeah yeah sure no
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like if you have a loving supporting partner so just to be but so at what point okay so at what
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point along the pregnancy should a man start paying child support as soon as she finds out at say six
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weeks no when it's hold on okay but these two have different opinions when should the guy start paying
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child support in a world where men are required to pay child support before the baby is born i guess
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like inappropriate time would be um when she finds out she's pregnant no like
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maybe it's like six months i don't know like when she is to start preparing i don't know it's stupid
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it's like how much money is in that like just answer the question i don't know whatever yes no
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it's such a stupid question so another question i don't think it's a stupid question but okay i believe
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you believe you believe that okay um do you think or would you
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show of hens again who's pro-choice just curious okay so those of you who are pro-choice
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if you could if it meant that women would always have the right to an abortion uh would you be in
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favor of disallowing men from being able to vote on abortion related matters
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so if it's just women determining it right because i mean there this is a common thing they say well
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this is a woman's issue i don't think that do you think men should be precluded from being allowed to
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vote on abortion issues i mean i think that i think that like they should be able to vote on stuff but
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i feel like maybe it's like i feel like they're not really a lot of them are not educated on it and
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stuff okay but i i yeah i guess i guess because i think that if it's just women voting i think that
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it would probably be it would be in favor of pro-choice okay so you would take away men's
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right to vote on this issue i mean i think everyone should be able to vote so but but but if it guaranteed
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and i think it would if you removed men's right to vote on this issue i think it would likely guarantee
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women's ability to have women can determine their own like so then would you be in favor of walking
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bet walking back men's right to vote on this issue i don't know i mean okay i need answers from other
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people then no just get onto the mic okay simple answer no i think everybody should have the right to
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vote on anything in our country okay what about you no they should be even okay i think they should
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have right equal rights like both should be able to vote on all issues but so even if as somebody
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who's pro-choice even if you could secure women's right to abortion forever by preventing men from
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voting on this issue that's not fair like i don't think that's fair because if i do that to you guys you
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guys can turn around like oh i'm gonna do that to you too and then this is like a war that never ends
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so it should be equal and like equal competition i think it's dangerous as well because as a woman we
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have sometimes the ick to have a child right that feeling is very strong and i think men would like
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to have children as well at some point and if a woman can take away a man's passion to have a child
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like we women have for like the ick to have a child i think it's very damaging to a man as well okay um
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but yeah andrew's not here you did want to talk about abortion but i think you have
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are you dominica did i say right yeah you uh you're pro life right so why don't you guys have a brief
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conversation on this then well um i mean i have i have my position pretty much so
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i definitely think that the man should have a say because without the man there's there's nothing
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in there you know um they're both in it together um so i think that's just fair
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well not about the whole voting thing so just going back to abortion rights in general
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so you don't think you're pro-life right right so then i'm assuming you're not in favor of uh
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even early on in the pregnancy you're not in favor of women being allowed to have abortions correct
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correct okay yeah she says 20 20 weeks what what's your cutoff oh um viability for for having an
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abortion yeah is it viability uh it's if you can deliver then you should deliver like if the baby
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can survive outside the womb so viability okay so my understanding dominica uh life begins at
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conception for you yeah okay so for sure go on um i i mean i i disagree with you because i mean
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you're literally taking a life out of out of someone you know you're you're telling them no you cannot
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live and i just think that's that's kind of sad to like just take that right from from someone from a
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baby who hasn't been entirely processed yet so yeah um i would say what everyone has a different
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different definition of life and so that is why it's like a pretty hard topic but um i do feel like
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aside from that i feel like we have bodily autonomy so i would bring up the point of like an organ donor
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would you would you do you think it's okay to give up an organ that wouldn't affect you to save
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someone's life do i think say that again sorry i'm like aren't like kidneys like you can lose one
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it doesn't matter like donate it right but this is a whole life it's not just yeah but just lose the
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child it doesn't matter just throw it in a bin and we don't care but it's someone else's life if they
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have a yeah so does one life like do you do you really have the authority to say
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like i i think there's accountability like if you got pregnant you got pregnant there's birth control
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and all that so yeah yeah but i think like if you don't want to have a kid you you kind of shouldn't
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because you're not going to be a good parent in my opinion it could change there's a put it for
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adoption yeah but if there's a difference between using your bodily autonomy to save a life and using
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your bodily autonomy to end a life yeah but should you be forced to go through with something for
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another person's life but if you do want to have children if you are not careful even if you don't
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believe it's a life in the womb yeah it will be a life but after a period of time right now it's not
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alive and if you kill it you're taking away any chance of that there are not studies that it's
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not a life yet it will be okay sperm could be a life so when you yes and it's sacred and you
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shouldn't do it outside of a woman if you do not want to have children use protection everybody so
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everybody watching this every time a guy masturbates he kills so many babies all these
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sperm could be so many so many babies potential though that is literally you guys have seen that
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like i'm saying sperm is a lie you guys are so brutal really really extreme christians like don't even
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believe in uh like contraception yeah contraception yeah for sure no okay but it's like the same i
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don't know you can you're the right to religion for sure super far from the microphone you should
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make whatever podcast condoms would be so funny as much that would be hilarious oh my god it would
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be so funny as here well here's a question oh my so those of you uh those of you women who are who
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are pro-choice um do you think men should be able to escape the responsibility of child support
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no i mean pro-choice you're i'm both okay you're both so you're you're fine with like women getting
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abortion are you fine with a woman getting an abortion because she's just not financially
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ready to have a child no i think that's so stupid but we live in a world where you just kind of like
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it's okay you think it's stupid but but okay so you can allow it yeah for she's not financially ready
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to have a child stupid though okay very so should a man be able to escape uh financial responsibility
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i mean if i'm going to stick to what i'm saying yeah i guess okay pro-choice should men not have
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to pay child support if they don't want to pro-choice should men have to not be you're pro-choice i'll
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just yeah i'm pro-choice i think men should always pay child support okay if there's a why
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because you brought the child to the world but wait so but what if he wanted you to have so
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and you didn't wait so just so i'm clear well he he didn't use protection so so you opened your legs
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say that a girl not hold on let me get the answer from everybody uh pro-choice pro-choice pro-choice
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should men let's say a guy hooks up the girl she gets pregnant he doesn't want the kid she does
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should he have to pay child support no um no i believe that child support is different from
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an like abortion rights if that's what you're it's getting to i don't know what like if there's a
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connection yeah there's no there's absolutely hold on there absolutely is a connection why don't you
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just answer the question oh i literally thought you were like trying to make a point about it i
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didn't i'm about to make a point but you can answer the question i said i said uh yes yes men should
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have to pay child support okay what about you i feel like you gotta you gotta speak into the mic okay
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okay i think i know where you're going with this and i actually do believe that um i mean i don't
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exactly know how we'd be able to make this work out but abortion should be somewhat of a collective
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decision i am pro-choice but i think in a world where men or the baby daddy or whoever does have
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somewhat of a say and whether this fetus is going to be terminated or not then yes child support should
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be required do you understand what i'm saying with that um because i know you're trying to say
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women have the choice to just get rid of their child if they want to whereas men don't and if they
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walk away from it they're shamed and they're um they can be taken to court they are not always ashamed
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i think some men can also not pay for their child i did not say that they're ashamed that they are
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shamed by society for being deadbeat i'll come back to your point what do you think um i mean i think that
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it's like kind of um i guess i don't know like because think like so what if the man is is he
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wants her to get an abortion he's not doesn't value that but what if the woman even though like so say
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like like you want you're pro uh pro-life so if you were got knocked up by a dude that was like he
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wants you to have the abortion but you didn't now you're not receiving funding for that you're not
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getting no child support and you have to deal with that alone so it's like you like you know what i
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mean like you still have the choice but would you do it you would just suffer probably you know what
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i mean you wouldn't have money so do you want to answer the question as well um you sassy but um
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but yes i think they should okay because in her situation but what about the situation
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well in general it would make sense that yeah obviously like if they had the choice
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always be the situation that the woman kept that opted to keep the child because there could be no
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child support absent a child being born so the situation would always be he didn't want the
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child and she did there's no other scenario yeah that's what i'm saying like she wants because she's
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like religious or are you religious that's why so like you wanted to keep it but then so you're going
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to keep it but he doesn't want you to keep it and so you keep it because you're religious but then
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now you don't have any funding and you're i mean you can make secular anti-abortion arguments
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i think they're not all non-religious people don't want to get abortions because it makes
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them feel horrible exactly and i hold on hold on hold on i gotta make my argument here so those of
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you i think all of you said that uh yes men should have to pay child support no i said no well you're
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you're on the fence on pro-life pro-choice but so going back to your thing so you're saying well yes
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i think this is what you said you said in a world you think that both men and women
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honestly like too far from the mic i don't have an answer for you a clear answer for you about that
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but i'm saying in a perfect world where i don't know well we don't like i said it's more of a current
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world should men pay always be required to pay child support no okay so that's your question yeah sure
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um no not necessarily i say no yeah actually no if that's oh no i didn't know as always i thought it
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was like i i i it can be debated but like that's the default in my opinion
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like you should have the right to go to court and say i don't want to pay child but if the man
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doesn't acknowledge the child he isn't and a lot of times in these cases it's like a guy that stays
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with this woman and with the promise of like helping raise this child and then ends up leaving
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so the woman's just gonna suffer financially yes and so it's like what the
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like where did you go see open your legs right what you opened your legs so it's action reaction
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right you made a choice stick up with that choice it's action reaction like consequences and i also
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think if a man doesn't acknowledge the child he shouldn't be paying child support and i think a
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lot of women also get pregnant in hopes of getting money out of a man as a scheme as well and i think
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there should be consideration i don't think that's a lot of women oh girl it is no it is so do you
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think do you think there are men out there there's there's literally an entire legal and court system
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that will force and compel men to pay child support that they don't want to in the netlands you do not
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have that if men were just willing to pay child support for unwanted children they would but there's
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an enforcement arm of the government that forces men it's actually we've totally done away with
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debtors prisons so we've we deemed it like uh unethical essentially to send people to prison
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for financial debts except when it comes to uh unpaid child support as a man you can go to prison for
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that in the netlands you do not have that if you are pregnant as a woman and you just say i do not
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acknowledge this man as a father you will not sign him on the birth certificate he will not pay
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shit and he's not entitled to the child as well hold on but in the netherlands could a woman say
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that this is the father and i want him to pay child support it would be a fairy can he be legally
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compelled to pay child support it would be very hard because if he isn't on the papers and everything
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would be very hard port netherlands it's possible but it will be hard because he didn't put his name
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on the paper the government of the netherlands the parents is obliged to pay child maintenance until
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the child turns 21 if he acknowledged the child yeah is he acknowledged if he doesn't acknowledge the
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child it's a different story because he isn't entitled to that child as well so she can just say
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he's not the father he he will not be on the birth certificate whatsoever jivani jd donated 200
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the level of understanding on this issue is zero when does the child establish value that it can't
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be killed now justify why you drew the line there you can't draw a coherent line post conception
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well she's saying viability so once the the baby is capable of surviving outside the womb
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that's her that's her line um but uh back to this i i got it sorry giovanni i do have to move it
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back to the jobs board thing so i don't know how it is in the netherlands i'm not privy to that speaking
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about uh the u.s system and the system in a lot of other countries so uh yeah the man can be forced
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and compelled to pay child support that's crazy even if he didn't want to he could here's a scenario
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a guy could have a one-night stand with a girl with the she could say i'm on birth control boom
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boom boom i don't want to have a kid she lied about it whatever and then she gets pregnant he
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just wanted to have fun one night stand he could be on the hook for 18 years of uh child support so
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if i get pregnant on purpose by some billionaire for example just because i want to have like the
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money and i know he's rich i can do that and sue him in america for child support you can yeah you can
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try to get that's dangerous it's dangerous to be a man you see my point it's dangerous to be a man
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out there it's dangerous but so um i guess going back to this so you you guys kind of flip-flopped
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on your answer here a little bit because i was asking do you think men should be like required to
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pay child support and you guys said yes you said yes yes yes yes so so i didn't understand the
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question i thought you were at i thought you were asking generally should we default to men
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like not every single man has to pay child support of course they're like it should be debatable in
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court but it's not i disagree with that well hold on okay so the current state of affairs in this
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country in every single state in this country if a man has a child with a woman wanted or unwanted
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doesn't matter any single woman can go to the court go to uh i depends on the state child services
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whatever it is and she can go after him for child support the man in no instance can say go to the
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court and his defense can never be i don't want to pay child support the court will be like
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you're gonna pay child support so you disagree like what do you mean you just like that is the
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law so i don't know what debate we're supposed to have you asked me if i believe in that that is that
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that should be and i'm saying if i made the rules that would not be the case so but so you're saying
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in some cases the man should not yeah so in some cases if the man is like super broke and can't support
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himself there's no let's say he's wealthy he just yeah but i'm saying there are cases where
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you don't have to pay child support no you okay well i mean if the man's making no money actually
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well that's not even true if the man is no making is not making any money and the woman presses it
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enough brings it to court the court is going to still um the court is still going to attempt
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to start charging him child support he might not be able to pay it but he's gonna owe it and if he
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doesn't start paying it he's going to end up with uh in california they cancel your license there's
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going to be interest yeah you'll get your license canceled and eventually you'll probably end up in
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prison or jail her answer is no basically i disagree that that i think that's wrong yeah what do you
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mean i'm you think i'm wrong about the law i don't think you're wrong i think the law is i wouldn't do
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the law if i was like a lawmaker like okay so you so you're fine for example then with men just not
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paying child support i think it should default to men paying child support i think as a man you have
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a right to go to court you should have the right to go to court and say i should not pay child support
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for this reason you should be able to escape that so then bringing it back to abortion does a woman need
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to go to court and give her reasons for why she wants an abortion or can she get an abortion for
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any fucking reason without any judicial oversight um i think that it's actually that's probably the
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best case scenario is that you are actually looking at the situations i don't because i don't think you
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should get an abortion for no reason but can a woman get an abortion for any reason um like do i
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believe that that should be a right no i'm just asking you what is oh well i think there are states
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that that's that that's legal yeah abortion right abortion rights have been limited in some states but
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many states women can get abortions for any reason they don't need justification i would also
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say that in abortion like the reason to get an abortion there can't be no reason so like
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the i would say there's like a better reason and a worse reason i would say that
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like a a worse reason is is like you can support the child and you like
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like like like like if you can support the child and you want a kid like eventually
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and it's just not the right time i think not the right time is kind of like
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not as good of a reason as if you were like you know essayed there's like a variety of
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reasons you could get i would argue most women getting abortions is just because they were
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irresponsible why would you argue that the men are irresponsible they are sure
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men were irresponsible too but you opened your legs so yeah most most abortions are just for like
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convenience it's not still like so what i think i want it i wouldn't say it's used as like birth
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control like i know that's an argument but like i would say like so what even if they were
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irresponsible i think they should be allowed to do that it's our body like you are you a woman you
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know what it's like to be a woman you have a uterus you have periods you know nothing about being a
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woman you're like oh get rid of your baby don't get out of your baby like what who are you to make
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that decision there should be no government if i want to i should be able to if i'm depressed
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because i'm depressed i'm just sad i don't want to have baby this in nine months i should be able
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to no what do you mean you are entitled to your opinion but i'm entitled to mine that's just my
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opinion wait so i mean no uterus no opinion is that your argument no opinion about women's uterus
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okay well it seems to assume that men are incapable of having understanding but i mean the entire
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premise it's basically all the woman's organs yes what about if you're getting an abortion
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and you know the gender of the baby and it's a woman what does that have to do with anything because
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you're talking about women's rights but what about that woman's right to survive that's inside i don't
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see as a woman when i don't consider a life a nine month whatever month i don't know the science
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is alive and i don't think i killed anybody okay so i mean the whole like no uterus no opinion i mean
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so okay neither males nor females have a monopoly on what is right or wrong true or false while the
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ramifications of the debate might have more of immediate effect on a pregnant woman's body
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i don't think that alone that alone does not disqualify men from forming well-reasoned beliefs
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on the topic but they don't really have beliefs that's why you can vote it doesn't mean you can
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ban our rights about our body our organs do you know any law that bans anything related to your
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organs male's organs absolutely like what absolutely there is there any ban there are so give me give me
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one ban federally federally so i'll give you something that is is legal so something that's
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legal so uh circumcision no i'm saying something that's not legal or not yes female genital mutilation
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is illegal male gen genital mutilation is widely practiced among 99 of the males
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born in this country two hundred dollars i should be able to murder because i'm depressed what a
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fucking ghoul if men can't have a position on abortion then you can have no opinion on war since you
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don't register this leads me to my next bodily autonomy argument giovanni thank you so yeah men
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have forced military conscription in this country okay so that's something the government actually this is
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this is a bigger infringement on bodily autonomy by the government because nobody is forcing women
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to have sex huh nobody is forcing women to have sex i don't know about nobody and stuff like that
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okay fine i'll just literally all the calls all the organization all the corruption jesus open your eyes
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and read the news okay 90 probably 95 percent stop okay sorry 95 percent of abortions probably result
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from consensual sex i'll just grant you that some abortions are due to incest and essay i'll just
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grant it the vast majority of abortions arise out of consensual sex do you agree or disagree
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i don't know the stats but i think majority is yeah i agree consensual sex okay so it's not wrong for
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me to state that so the government is not compelling anybody to go and have consensual sex you're not
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compelled yeah and most abortions are a result from consensual sex yeah however the government has
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a direct and clear path to forced military conscription which is has to do with male only bodily autonomy
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because only men in this country are forced to register for the selective service and the event of
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uh uh in the event of a draft only men can be drafted um going to a war is to help the society right
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you guys are fighting war so you're helping america to be america really the woman when you're doing
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abortion is literally harming our body so it's literally not the same thing sending a man off
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to war to get himself killed is not you want to go to harming his body you can go to war if you want
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to go to war if you want to go to war that's okay women are men are forced to go to war because that's
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different there are different concepts going to war and it's way worse than abortion yeah it's way
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worse than abortion it's different but it's a bodily autonomy issue several hundred thousand
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young men in ukraine are like at all blown to pieces i did i did a minute against their yeah
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against their will i don't know just say so a woman not being allowed to get an abortion
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is worse than war say it wait let me think about this you just wait i don't think that is okay say
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i'm not gonna say that you're gonna make a sound bite like that's literally your position say it
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no i'm not saying that i'm saying two different situations there's no comparison between the two
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why am i saying you're the one making the comparison i'm saying you're like right name
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a way that men don't have bodily autonomy i literally know bodily like body like in your
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organs yes my body you know what they shoot your organs it's different you're not going to a hospital
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to get something taken out right i mean if you get something during the war yeah shot off it's great
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in my opinion it's different i would love to hear your opinion on transgenders though you know
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what forced military conscription is way worse than women's lack of abortion access in some states
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100 agree with you way worse i think men should go to war women should have abortion that's my opinion
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how about how about men are not forced and women are not exactly that's what i'm going to say yeah
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that's okay why is it as a woman we can always say oh no i'm a woman it will hurt my feelings i
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cannot do that and a man be like fuck i have to do this we want as a woman we want a strong man
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who's manly but if he gives us a compliment his sexual assault if he helps makes choices
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is horrible it's a horrible organizing over generalizing can i speak thank you you're great
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thank you you're amazing good girl either way why is it always like
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that you know what i mean yeah great can i say something if you're pro-choice why aren't you letting
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your baby be pro-choice to grow and like i said i don't consider it a baby i consider it like
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not a life before a fetus yeah if you're taking a choice if you cannot take it out you're taking
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out their natural choice to live though so like i said like you guys are also you men are also
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taking a natural choice of so many sperm to live when you masturbate it's like what at what point
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do you draw the line you can you can draw any line arbitrarily you know you can draw your line
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i draw my line what's wrong with that let me ask you a question what do you think was worse let's
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say and it's not let's say abortion was just a hundred percent ban in this country what do you
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think is worse a ban on abortion or the current state of affairs when it comes to forced military
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conscription and men like i said everything exists in a context no just tell me it's worse tell me it's
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worse why why are you forcing me to tell you something i don't believe in that's what you
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literally were arguing do not scream at each other i'm saying i'm saying these two are different so
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you're not answering my like there's not a single organ we are we're like forcing you to take out
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oh if you get dropped into the military they shoot your organs it's like law order you got to you
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do not have a choice they shoot you what do you think they're shooting your hair extensions yeah
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calm down yeah don't how about just don't force the men like then you can like yeah it goes the other
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way around as well i know not wants to but i still think we would die as a country though yeah i know
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and that sucks and that's why they make them how about that should women be drafted um i mean if
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they're like able to like fight i guess like i mean like listen like i'm like i'm a little girl
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like i can i work out but i don't really think i could do that many push-ups and do the same do as
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good as a man probably or the average man but sure but you want to be quick the same estimate you want
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the same rights but when the war breaks out you want to stand in the kitchen um no i'm saying until war
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comes yeah you want to be in the kitchen like oh no i'm tiny don't you think i think all female
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units would be an interesting thing because you you talk about wartime right and a 200 pound man and
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a 100 pound girl deployed is she going to be able to drag him who cares all female women be able to
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volunteer for the military and get the same exact fucking pay as their male counterparts who are
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putting in more physical work in the net women get paid the same amount of money donated 200
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brian if you can you should have your assistant pull up the bill burke cake batter comparison to
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abortion it's on youtube uh the i don't know if it's a if it's a net netflix will like copyright
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anything because it's probably a netflix stand-up so we can't do it but big sass energy i really
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appreciate that man uh but all of you are probably fine with women volunteering for the no for the
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military women should be bought okay women should be in the netherlands if you are 16 volunteering
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i mean if you want to i mean if you want to say like that um you're you're saying like women should
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be like have to sign up for the draft and stuff no no so okay so currently women can volunteer
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to be part of the military can't anyone volunteer well yeah men and women can volunteer only men can be
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forced well then the draft then if that you know if if women are allowed to get abortions and you
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force the women to also sign up then sure in the netherlands when you're 16 years old men and women
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you get a letter at home that you have to go to war if the war breaks out men and women there's no
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choice you want to be equal as a woman better you fight as a man then shut up you cannot stand in
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the kitchen and be stupid you know you fight if they want to stop complaining about the abortion stuff
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and you just gotta sign up for the draft sure i think women should be allowed to have abortions
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though okay um but i'm just a little confused because you said well i wouldn't like oh aren't
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men stronger and like yeah i mean don't they disqualify people for like certain things like
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if you're like no they allow women to volunteer they lower the standards for them so i guess they
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lower the standards yeah they actually have smaller lower fitness but they get paid the exact same
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i guess if they get i'm well that's not my fault i'm not six feet tall unfair i mean it sucks that
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i'm not a six foot tall buff like muscle mommy but like maybe i can't change that it's just
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interesting women should be allowed to volunteer for the military and they should be paid just the
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same as men but also men make for better soldiers but they shouldn't be paid the same and also i don't
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think i should be drafted if they're being forced be in the draft either then what's that weaker men
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shouldn't be paid as much either and what makes a man weaker like well we're saying that about
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women like right now like labor uh but he's still a man like a little bit you can like force me to
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sign up but they have the advantage of just being a man yes like you can force me to sign up if you
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want but like it's not my fault i'm not a six foot tall buff mommy i just think last thing on the
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whole like child support thing bringing it back a little bit here i just think it's crazy that
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the same arguments like for example let's say let me frame it like this for those of you said
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mentioned uh paid child support whatever uh a guy comes to you and he's like uh yeah i um
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don't want to pay child support didn't want to have a kid um what would you but hey with the current
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state of affairs so you could say well it should be this way but the current state of affairs is if a guy
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hooks up the girl she has a kid she decides to keep the kid she can she can and most often will
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force him to pay child support through the court system so we can talk about what should be what you
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know future down the road but that's how it is right now so if a guy were to come to you and like your
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brother your male friend and he's like man i hate paying these child supports i hate paying this child
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support it really sucks what would you say to him i would tough shouldn't have done that no i have no
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reason to like i don't like think that men i'm not like yeah you better pay buddy like i think
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i mean i would comfort like my brother if he's like upset about something so yeah but i mean you can't
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really offer him anything aside from just what like oh you shouldn't have done that like offer
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advice what to do so there's nothing he can do about it yeah he can't escape his responsibility
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so you would you really the only thing you can say is you shouldn't have done that well if i were to
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give advice i mean yeah but like there's kind of no point in saying that it's already done
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right but it's interesting the same arguments if a woman was like wanting to get an abortion and we
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said yeah well tough you shouldn't have done that you're gonna have to deal with the ramifications
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women can always escape in most states in this country women can just you know look you can go
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to a different state get abortion different state women can always escape their responsibility when it
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comes to this topic men can never escape their responsibility i disagree that's equivalent
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that's a fact though that's a fact no i don't think that paying child support is like the same
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is not it's not my body my choice yeah because it's literally carrying a baby no my body my
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choice but so what about these men who are going to have for 18 years a lower standard of life let's
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say they have to physically labor most men are a lot of men are in construction work what if a man in an
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effort to uh not have his life financially fucked works an extra 10 hours a week and then it just
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further breaks down his body over the 20 years that he's doing some construction job i that's his body
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i said before i don't i wouldn't you just don't value i wouldn't oh my god i wouldn't make that
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rule that's not my but that's how it is so we're okay i disagree with it if you take away child support
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i don't hold that value so you can't make the the you can't like say that because the law exists that
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that that's my logic it's not my logic that's the thing i'm just saying then this you're like
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downplaying downplaying the serious impact that it could have on a man's life you don't think
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there's an impact it could have on a man's life because you're saying well it's uh the woman has to
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you know carry the child for nine months well i'm not saying that about child support i'm saying that
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about abortion i think what you are saying is like if a woman cannot pay for it she can abort the child
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because he will be in a horrible situation she cannot pay for it it will be horrible horrible for the
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child but if the man cannot pay for it it's the same thing yeah so you want to be equal but only
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for a woman again that's kind of no i agree with you that men shouldn't have to pay child support if
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they can't afford it but can he then make the decision for her to lose the child because nobody
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can pay for it then uh so are you really pro-life if nobody can pay for the child you're am i
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really i don't understand if the man cannot pay for the child the woman cannot pay for the child
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would you keep the child then because you're pro-life well if no one wants to abort the child
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like how about this let me ask you a question i think this will make things a little easier
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a really rich woman gets pregnant and her only objection is she just doesn't want to have the kid
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can she get an abortion i personally think that that's not a good reason but i oh because
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i wouldn't i wouldn't do it myself just because i don't want to like i personally no she she doesn't
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feel like she's ready she she's financially fine she just has a general feeling like she doesn't want to
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have the kid yeah i think that the result of that would be the i mean would you bar women who have
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that view from getting abortions uh no i i would i think you should have the right to do that um
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okay so then a rich man who can afford to support pay child support but he just doesn't want to
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should he be able to escape his duty and responsibility of having to pay child support
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if he has a genuine reason like the woman he just doesn't want to then he can nope nope if he wants
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to go to court and debate it then that's fine i think what do you mean if he okay but so
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you're saying if he wants to go to court and debate it what should the court do the court should just
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make a just decision and say you have to pay child support or not so what should the court do in
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that situation should the literally an imaginary court you introduced i'm saying i disagree that
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men should have to pay child support so what should the court do i think you're saying how would they
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evaluate whether a man should or no no no hold on let's rewind let's rewind you said
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a scenario in which it would be okay for a guy to escape his responsibility of having to pay child
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support would be if he doesn't have money that would be one example yeah right okay but then i said well
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okay let's talk about if it's a rich woman you said that's not justification that a rich woman who just
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doesn't want to have a kid that's not justification for her being allowed to have an abortion now we're
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giving the counter example of a rich man he can he can pay child support he just doesn't think it's
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fair and he doesn't want to i think he should have the right to go to a courthouse and like what should
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the i think he has the right to like sue and say i don't want to pay child support no but that's not how
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it works the woman okay here's how it would work the woman wants child support from him she goes to
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the court and says i want child support are you following here can i say something hold on let me
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try to oh my god please uh so men don't like proactively go to a court and say i don't want
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that never happens yeah because it's the law like you said i'm saying if i made the law because i
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fundamentally disagree that so what would be the law okay the law that would determine like if you
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should or should not pay child yes what would be the circumstances is if it is not feasible for the
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man to pay it if it's like if the woman can if the woman doesn't need it basically or if the man can't
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pay it then you shouldn't go into let's let's let's assume that the woman does need it okay let's
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assume the woman needs it and the man is rich but he just doesn't want he had a one night stand with
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her he had no intention of having a kid she decided to keep the baby he has the uh i don't think i think
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but she there's now a kid that exists that conceivably it takes money to take care of a kid she
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doesn't have the money so what's your question you know next subject because this will hold on i
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feel like we're almost there i feel like we're almost there we're almost there i believe you're
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not i think she is uh hold on hold on hold on hold on so should what would be you're the judge you
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passed the law should the man have to pay child support um if he's rich it should doesn't want to
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as i've like said many times it should default to you pay child support otherwise if you don't want
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to pay child support i believe that you should legally be able to as a man like sue the woman and
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and make your case that you don't you shouldn't have to pay child support i think it should be
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like in that in that system they would discriminate against poor people only rich men would be able to
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i think what she's saying that a man should also have a choice you guys like you're making a
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counterpoint paying no i i think what we're getting at here is that in a world where women have the right
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to an abortion for any reason men should have a corresponding right to have a uh legal paternal
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surrender where they don't have to pay child support okay i i will i will actually say um that i i don't
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really like i don't really feel like men i don't genuinely feel like men should have to like pay child
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support i don't have strong feelings about that so so i'm gonna say if that's what it takes for like
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abortion rights to be um legal like more like and have a even playing field i i'm fine like i will
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agree that you that men don't have to pay child support can i say something okay so you will acknowledge
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though that there are that women are able to get abortions but in every single state in this country
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men are forced to pay child support do you do you think that that's wrong um the law as it currently
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is not what should be yeah what is you think it's wrong that men should pay child support yes and have
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no escape from it yeah i think that's wrong okay all right what's like crazy about okay should we like
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go to her for a second i'm okay with us moving from the topic i'm oh i'm ready to move we do have
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one other note man we have i should move okay you're a comedian right get get we ain't nothing
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funny about this sweetheart do we get no no do we get like free tickets to your next show because you're
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probably gonna talk about this oh no do we get free tickets no i don't want to talk about this
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um so you said uh what you said this was a disagreement women's rights being made up that was
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something that i saw andrew speak on so i don't oh no okay do you think he is he referencing the
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idea that women's rights are fake because they're only given by men yes because of the physical thing
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yeah yeah because in in in the world you know the strongest people make all the rules and so if the
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strong people make the rules that women have rights and then they enforce them legally through
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violence then the only reason women have rights is because men use violence to make sure women have
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rights yeah so i hear that and but no yeah and i disagree i what i what i disagree on is um women
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make every human being so when you eternally owe you need sperm for that right i mean i i i can't you
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can't like we do not make sure you need sperm for that right you know that you're saying you need a man
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because men can physically dominate women but women don't naturally have rights men also dominate
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each other we don't naturally have a lot of women are dominatrix as well right we like well so i think
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that most men have love for their mothers but i don't think that actually addresses the argument if
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like for example let's say a group of men decided that tomorrow and this played out recently in afghanistan
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essentially uh they decide tomorrow we don't believe we don't like feminism we don't believe
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that women should have rights what would actually stop them from doing that um like nothing would stop
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them from doing it so you agree with andrew then i don't agree that women's rights are made up well
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they're not he doesn't even believe in rights because if they can be taken away from you are they
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actually rights he's much better at arguing this than i am though i'm just kind of playing out the
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idea the idea isn't that like it's some smarmy like oh women wouldn't have anything if it wasn't for
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men because our society is a collaboration and women are in in inseparable part of that like you're so
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important literally what what's the point of life if there are no women for me i don't know but like the
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idea is that you have rights in a western society because western men with rifles make sure you do
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if we go to saudi arabia and we want women to have rights who do we ask to give those rights to women
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thank you mens yeah you have to ask the men to give them the rights if we go to afghanistan we say
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taliban please can women start going to school who are the people that are going to make sure women
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get to go to school um the government which is mostly made up of men there you go and governments
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only exist because rough men with rifles decide they do um women can there can be you know women
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led societies it's possible it's not what it is i would love to i mean women can lead societies but
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even the women who are the most powerful are incredibly rough and warlike like margaret thatcher
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one of the most famous female politicians of all time she what was the prime minister of england
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didn't she attack a south american country argentina that's right like full on like so anyway all of
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our rights mine too i only get my rights because someone with a rifle told someone else i will kill
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you if you don't let this guy drive a car and that's my point when it comes to the point we need a man to
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protect us right you guys are saying the lies because the the like in china the only woman empire
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that was the most prosperous dynasty among like many dynasties so it's like but wait wait wait but
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but who enforced her laws and rules she did yeah and who executed her so her queen's guard was a
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bunch of women or was it men protecting her well men are doing some hard labor sure they're but the
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men got out on the street forcing her laws right if people do not obeying her laws who fixed that for
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yeah i think men fixed it for her they're the little soldiers yeah they're like the men fixed it for
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her but she only has the power because the men back her that's because at that dynasty you have to
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but that's the same way you still need men you still need men dynasty okay but it doesn't matter like
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that's world history that's like you try to make so many three that the man did that for her okay
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she probably had to she would always have to appeal to men to enforce men are the enforcement arm of
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society and government that's only because men were enforcing at the beginning men are
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or mine are still the enforcement arm of society it's about power it's about physical strength
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that's how it works okay hold on quick question going around hold on going around the table who's
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physically stronger men or women i think on average men yeah men men obviously nothing to do with
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anything i don't think anybody disagrees with that i know what's a single person sitting at this table
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i think no but so look you you brought up the the disagreement you said women's rights being made
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up so i think andrea actually says that all rights are made up yeah i mean he's he's right he it's just
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like i don't even know like if if he's not like making a jab at like specifically women's rights and
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women like thinking they should have rights like if it's not that i don't i have no idea what it's
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absolutely not a jab at women it just seems like it is because it's an icky thing to think about the
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idea is that if women want rights and women resent men but women only have rights because of men so
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your fallacy when you're like ah i hate men it's like well you only get to hate men because we let you
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and it's not like a we thing i obviously don't enforce any of this and most men aren't thinking
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about it in those ways but the people who enforce the laws use violence and violence is the tool of
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of the government and men and use it it's the same with the war right the men should go to war
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because they are men yeah but we want to have rights and who executes the right men so we should be
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tanking on our knees thank you man thank you oh i don't know about that
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so next thing you said men's body count and women's body count uh don't have different value
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otherwise that's a double standard yeah do you want to elaborate a little more so um
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so i think if a man has a body count of 50 it's not morally better than if a woman has a body count
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of 50 uh it's not morally better so you're saying society doesn't judge a man the same way that they
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would a woman uh no i'm saying like i don't know if like you actually disagree with this i but in
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terms of morality i would say yes it's equally immoral yeah yeah that's what i would say it's immoral but the
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the consequences of a man sleeping with a lot of women is different from a woman sleeping with a
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lot of men because if she prefers men and wants to date them then men on average have certain
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preferences on how they would like their women to have behaved in the past so they can make educated
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decisions on if they want to be with them or not it's that like what's that thing people everyone says
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is sexist if you're gonna hire someone for a job do you want someone who's had 200 jobs for one
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month each or a person who had two jobs for five years each right i will look at their talent and
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how they answer questions their previous work experience well so i would i would look at their
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actual talent and how they answer the interview question instead of look at how many jobs they
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had in the past like are you interviewing a woman fucks 500 men she has a better talent at making
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children oh i'm not talking about that like it's not related i don't know what just happened i think
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it's a question of loyalty right i i don't really think that this conversation really has so much to
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do about morals really i think it has to do with kind of more the dating dynamics here yeah so i think
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maybe more so what you're getting at is well men are it's impressive if a man sleeps with a lot of women
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but women are shamed if they sleep with a lot of men is that kind of your angle here well i think
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that's true yeah i mean maybe but that's because if you prefer men men on average prefer women who
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have not behaved in that way because that's just a preference most men have the same way women have
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a preference for taller men yeah it's like an innate thing that just is like uh something you're attracted
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to or a red flag you naturally look out for yeah i actually don't like have like i actually don't
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believe that your body count like it's good to have like a body count of like a hundred i just think that
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like men and women should be equally judged like i don't think it's different between men and women
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i disagree with you there okay uh i kind of disagree well i mean look i don't think promiscuity
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in men is a good thing but it's definitely different and it's actually women's own the way women will
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select men is way different here so like it's not clear to me for example if like a really successful
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guy if a girl knows like high status could be a celebrity athlete rapper whatever a girl will
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even know that he's a fucking slut and still want him but if a guy knows that the chick's a slut
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it's gonna men are more likely to have a disgust response by that yeah i think men have a different like
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kind of bought like maybe biological even like response to yeah yes i agree i also think i agree
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that if you're if i think most women do excuse a high body count most of you simply don't care and
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so it's incredibly frustrating when you give men grace and you're like well i like you anyway and he's
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like oh well this really bothers me but it's not a conscious decision very few men are like i'm going to
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choose specifically to dislike women who have been with lots of men because how many well maybe yeah
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i don't it's just an innate thing in me where i feel i feel grossed out by it and i can't really
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explain it i don't know and maybe it's it's bad and i should whatever it doesn't i listen a woman who
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has a high body count can be an excellent partner it could not affect her her worth in in the totality of
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her life uh people can change uh people can be redeemed i believe this wholeheartedly but also
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if you're a man and you can be with a woman who hasn't been with 50 people or slept with some of
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your friends or you can be with someone who's been only been with a couple people of course you're
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going to choose the other person sure i have no objection to like men having those preferences i just
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think like if you're going to talk about it morally that's when i think it should be talking like
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i would agree with you but i don't think most people are talking about it morally because most
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people are totally okay with hookup culture so i would talk about it morally because i'm religious
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but i don't think brian would talk about it morally i think brian's worried about the specific things
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that are innate in a woman who would sleep with lots of people or the character traits or maybe you
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know it's embarrassing it's humiliating it's scary because she might have problems she might cheat on you
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you know there's a bunch of reasons you wouldn't want to she might sleep with people you know now
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you have to see them all the time you don't want to have a baby with someone like it's hard you know
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as a guy that's a frustration i think it's a little bit of an insecurity thing i'm not gonna lie i think
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that personally i like men that have a high body count i do not they're experienced i do not care and
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honestly i like i like that and so to me a lot of the time i feel like men when they say like i think
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it's because they are fear that oh this girl's been with maybe she's been with one guy okay so i'm
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more likely to be the best she's had she's not experienced she knows she does not know anything
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different so if like they could be subpar and seem like the best thing ever because they are the best
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thing they've experienced and i think a lot of the time men sometimes that have they don't like
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the one with the high body counts because they feel inadequate do you i mean yeah sure do you if
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someone if something someone did made you feel inadequate naturally then you wouldn't want to be
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with them yes but i think that many to work on their own insecurities because or women should just
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not be sluts i listen i'm i do i do content creation and i'm very objectifying terms i'm a very
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loyal person that has a negative connotation yeah it's it's a bad thing to fuck a hundred men i'm a
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ride or die girl oh is that i'm sorry that's offensive you cannot say that i can't no you go
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girl you go fuck a hundred no no i'm not i was kidding actually yes you do you literally do listen
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you can call me i encourage people to date but i don't encourage people to have sex very quickly
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that's my proposal that's from my experience like i said i have negative experience going into things
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too fast so i'm always advocating women less physical sex wouldn't it be more just grabbing
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dick yeah like more like other physical stuff right yeah just measuring his dick yes with his
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pants on that's normal you don't fuck the guy but you get a hundred men djs that's still promiscuity
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you have to be like a hundred men you should just let women explore to the extent they want
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no yeah when women say when women say explore and find themselves and go on journeys and adventures
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yeah it trend literally translates to get run through by a bunch of dudes why do you say that
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that's literally what that means when i go do things all the things you listed has nothing to do with
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men all the activity i do 90 of them you literally said explore in the dating context yeah exactly
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yeah i don't cool go fucking to fucking paraguay don't give a fuck and i didn't say like it has
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to be blowjob you can like i have so many times i dated men for like three months i didn't have
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anything with them we had kids that made out like so what and you grab that just because that's not
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your reality what was your i think it's so hilarious it's okay total code so okay it's insecure if a man
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doesn't want to date a girl with a high body count uh yes i mean i think that like it makes them feel
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less special because it's like she's been with more people what's wrong with that yeah what is
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actually wrong i mean it's like it's that's in the past though you know what i mean like if they're
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just with you and they're committing to you then that's all that should matter i just don't understand
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so then you're not the person i'm so sorry to cut you off i didn't mean to do that that's rude but
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if you if you're saying that you're changed then not changed i like i'm the thing is i'm not
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interested in that i i mean maybe if i'm committing to somebody that does also does content then like
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it's different for me because i could also still do that but um if i'm dating somebody that is like
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a normal person and i'm um stopping it's like i'm not a cheater like just because i have a lot of
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partners does not mean i'm a cheater and i'm a very loyal person i'm a ride or die girl they've
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literally done studies like okay well that does not apply to me and it does not apply to everyone
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well but it might not apply to everyone but it's still a factor that factors in well i think the
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reason like i said it makes them feel a lot special there is i think that's a little bit
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like you need to look inside yourself uh also like i mean there's a whole bunch of negative
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ramifications there there's the increased risk of stds there's i get tested every two weeks
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maybe yeah that's good they don't test for herpes in the porn industry yeah but like most people have
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it no most people don't well well most people in the porn industry do have okay that's really
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there's a lot of there's uh there's two types of herpes there's like genital herpes and
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then there's the one the cold sores on your lips those are different yes yeah most people i don't
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want to have genital herpes sorry but if you are in the porn industry just like me so i can talk about
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it and you're very loyal and giovanni jade you donated 200 exclusivity is inherently valuable
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if 10 people got first place at the olympics it would be less prestigious this is inherent no different
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when it comes to who you let in you or put yourself in i've never i'm not dating everyone
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i've ever had sex with true so it's kind of different but your quick thing yeah because we
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work in the porn industry say i'm a right or die i'm very loyal you have like one person in your mind
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obviously and that's a good thing but if you are going to have like sex with another man isn't that
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still cheating even if it's work or not well if it's consensual then it's not like people have
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polyamorous relationships like an open relationship then we're open so will you tell your guy like i i
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would like an open relationship because of my work or how would you go with it because i'm curious for
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myself in the future i don't know how to go about it if i was to date somebody that does not do the
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content it probably the only way it would work is if i was to stop it and just film with them because
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i don't think it's safe for them to continuously because it would be fair for them to be able to go do
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stuff with other people will you stop making content with men if the other man doesn't want
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you to and he doesn't want to make content with you as well no he will say do yourself do your own
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thing on the movies that's fine but he finds it cheating if you do that with another man would you
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like do that well with another man if i i would no videos at all with another man and yeah i'm sorry
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i have to move it on i do have to move it on that's very interesting i do think though i mean so
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you're saying body count doesn't matter men are insecure for it uh if body count doesn't matter
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what's your body count um i don't exactly know the exact number um so probably like i think like 30
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ish which is very low for somebody in that does porn considering four of those are from this week
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you think it's 30 it's around there i think between 30 to 40 sure okay isis what about you you
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seem to agree with her that body count doesn't matter what's your body count i don't want to
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answer that how about you give us a range how about that instead of an actual number um less than
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you're a liar okay go find every single guy i told in my story ever i can tell you at which stage we
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date it till and just because in your mind you will think i can't you have that perception you
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just like you're thinking i'm a liar that's exactly what i'm saying like you don't believe when women
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tell you the truth because you can't understand there's a different perspective you said your
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main priority is getting followers and orgasms yes and you believe in like rotational dating you've
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had multiple like you've had rosters of men that doesn't mean that's what i'm currently believing in
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right i'm saying currently i only care about followers and orgasms so like i'm not really
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thinking about rotation no guy like i'm thinking about going on dates that can find a husband as
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well as creating there's no way to verify uh what the truth is but yeah because you can you will
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always believe what you want to believe so yeah i just think i mean there's enough conduct on your
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socials and like your own your judgment because plenty of people don't think the way that you do
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what do you want people to think about your content i don't care what people think about
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my content my goal has always always been not to influence but be authentically myself just to be
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clear she she grabs dudes cocks within minutes of meeting them but she claims to have a low body
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count it doesn't really add up you know a lot of things don't add up because a person is very complex
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that's just because you're simple doesn't mean other people are simple so don't project on me okay
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you get mad at me when i say grabbing dicks but not at him why
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jesus are you i i just don't understand what the point of your so you make content you don't care
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about how people perceive it no i don't you have no stated goal when you when you post it you don't
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you don't have a way you want people to feel or think i want people to feel what do you want them to feel
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authenticity truth my experience my opinion and your authentic truth is is catcalling men and
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grabbing their penis that was the story that was the thing that happened i told the story online i
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and you put a subjective emotion on it i only told you what happened so i don't understand
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it's every story you tell on your tiktok is that the truth i'm not gonna tell you that you don't deserve
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for me to tell you no no but i think if you're making it's all true it's about being authentic
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no no no no no stop wait but i think some people just tell stories because they are writing books
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and stuff maybe you are like yeah making a beautiful story because you're going to write a book because
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you want to get famous right it didn't attack you or anything so it's like every story you tell
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on the internet the truth um body count it's a single digit less than 10
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three uh less than 10. into the mic like less than 10. 11.
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oh yeah oh i won't i won't be saying at all oh come on tell me it's my house of ranks as well
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full disclosure i i spent most of my life being incredibly promiscuous donated 200 you get judged by
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society because you live with society if your partner loved to shit on the floor but they
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always cleaned it up after would you not judge them gross is gross hash gives me the ick
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ick uh thank you framework engineer appreciate the tts thank you thank you anyway i was way into
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trying to be sex positive and also other stuff when i was younger and it was destroying my life and
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over time i became a different person and now i deeply want to be that different person it's
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difficult i don't make the mark all the time but yeah again earlier i said your body count doesn't
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affect your worth but it does affect how people want to date you and that's fair so anyway high
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body count sorry everybody not going to talk about it oh my god that's fine it's in the past no i am
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ashamed though no no it's bad what about you no it's okay one one that's great let's go dog that's
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great yeah big dog raise the roof okay all right the roof is on fire um
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um i do think one difference to shane's point that he made earlier um i think a lot of women
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don't really care like some women might have a preference for lack of promiscuity or low body count
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in men but i think most women like don't really care when it comes to like males
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right but so there's asymmetry in what men and women like men tend to prefer women with a low body
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count and i would honestly question like if a dude's like if a dude looked at his girl and she like had a
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low body count he's like man i really i don't think any guy absent cucks have ever thought this i really
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wish she had slept with more men before she met me thought no dude ever yeah that's kind of yeah
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there's this perception there's this perception that men want like porn star crazy sex and stuff
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and it's like a man just wants someone who makes him feel safe that's the reality of the situation and
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feeling safe correlates to low body count well that's because you're insecure oh my goodness
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i agree you know next topic next topic it's so funny though i mean like we're just gonna talk
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in circles on this yeah that's why next topic yeah sex is not this complicated procedure
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and this is actually another differential between men and women because men typically tend to lead
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in the bedroom so as a guy if you're experienced and you know what you're doing that's what we like
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we like to be right but if you're a guy a little if you're a guy and you know what you're doing you
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can have amazing sex with a sexually inexperienced woman it's not so clear to me if the opposite is
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always going to be true also i would say like most men i don't think would have any problem like if a
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woman's sexually inexperienced like guiding her or like kind of leading her in the bedroom i think a
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lot of women would be turned off by like having to teach a guy how to fuck her
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so i mean yeah women are having the worst sex ever statistically right they're not finishing
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they're miserable they're feeling awful they dislike it and it's because they don't want to coach men
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no but also again a lot of pressure on the man again right because he cannot confess he has to do
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this he has to do that he has to lead us to the bedroom he has to be the man again that's a lot of
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pressure sure again for the man okay can i just say something go ahead um i think that like a lot of
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issues like something that's been brought up here is like women's declining mental health like
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at a faster rate than men and um that's something that andrew said sorry um but uh i think like
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fertility as well has been on the decline and i think it's not necessarily because i think like the
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mental health is um largely because of like pesticides and the water and sure okay i think that it's not
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feminism because that's what i think a lot of i think that birth control has to do with a lot of
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it sure yeah a lot of overtaking of hormonal birth control is just incredibly bad damaging a woman yes
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uh okay so i'm gonna try to blast through the notes there's a lot i'll try to be quick uh let's see
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um did you isis did you say you were like kind of against marriage no oh i said that it's like
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it's most likely that marriage doesn't work but i still want marriage and you said like monogamy isn't
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the natural order yeah it's hard you gotta just go to the table for me it's all right it's going to
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the table it's hard to school yeah because it's really hard so i mean dominica um you got married
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to your high school sweetheart you got married at 21. uh do you feel like a lot of women judge you
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for getting married so young oh for sure always family too yeah but there's also people judging us
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for like not spinster you know not marrying marrying or not want to get married sometimes
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no one have kids dominica in your pre-show notes you said porn turns you into a serial killer you
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wanted to talk about abortion religion conservatism acceptance liberal activism in schools spirituality
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uh can't talk about that one can't talk about that one not all men suck christianity acceptance what
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makes you liberal republican what is freedom of speech so why don't we talk about porn turns you into
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a serial killer oh my god go ahead talk about it okay i remember i was listening actually to
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this i guess podcast you could say and i don't remember the guy's name he's like the most well-known
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serial killer his name's just the t i'm ted bundy yes from utah solid city represent yes that guy
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i don't know i'm sorry that's hilarious you're a comedian i'm a porn star may i ask are you
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what kind of christian are you are you mormon i'm yeah that's what i am okay nice what does that mean
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mormon what's i love the ballerina farm i really love them you love what the ballerina farm they're
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mormon family oh i oh the trad wave girl what is a mormon can somebody explain okay i'll get to that in a
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second but basically so i was listening to like this podcast thing and there was like this study
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done with these serial killers and most of all not most of all of them but a good amount of them
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said that their leading thing was porn so they started there they started consuming it and they
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just wanted more and more and more of it and so the screen wasn't enough and so they needed more kinky
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kinky wasn't enough they needed something darker and so i just think that's kind of crazy to me to
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hear that because that's just like i can answer that thing i think because i'm a porn star uh a lot
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of kings come around because it's like a trigger yeah if you have a long-term partner like my ex-partner
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he has a lot of violently triggers as well we use knives tiding up everything and i just got into a
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relationship with him in the first week he was like i'm gonna fucking knife you up but it was
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never it sounds crazy i know but it's like a trigger and it's like it's never enough if you
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do not get that trigger you will look for the trigger again and look for it and that's why it's
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dangerous if you want can we talk science here um i really i'm really glad you brought up ted bundy
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because i watched so many documentaries on him podcasts and movie interpretations you know uh during the
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trial people thought that he was uh watching looking at the porn magazine with grape that's
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belonged to his grandfather and people had a misconception he grew up in a nice home and
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people assume that you know they argue the lawyer argue yes the porn and ted bundy also said that
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himself that's might be reason why he you know did all those things to women however i watched this
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documentary uh dr louis is on hbo dr louis actually did experiments with all the front
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front front um death row inmates in the uh maximum security prison and what they have found in
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common is there's similar dark spots in their mri in their frontal lobe so there's actually physical
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damage to their brain that's what made them think crazy things so the things i say they may say oh porn
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made me this way they couldn't even think clearly they don't they're brain damaged and yeah so it's like
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you don't know what is the reason uh for that i think what she's meaning at the trigger points
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with some people that you get from watching porn it's like never enough that's why you have so many
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kings so many more kings join i'm a porn star she's a porn star we know about the kings and it's like
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it's going more more more it's getting progressively more violent over time like literally every kid who
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is exposed to porn is almost we are in the industry we see that to women being choked hit spit on i
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think i also don't like porn i don't want men to watch porn honestly but i just want to disagree with
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the killer thing because i feel like and also there's one thing that dr louis also said that's
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really interesting actually he was aborted so basically his mom actually physically tried to
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abort him that's why but then it was unsuccessful so he had brain damage from that and that's one
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suspicion that his frontal lobe isn't and that's why you shouldn't be aborting children
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that's why you should successfully abort children you know even if the law bans it even even if the
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law bans it there's gonna be women because they get pregnant unexpectedly they would do it themselves
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at home that causes a lot of danger so yeah i i'm for abortion do it correctly don't do half-ass job
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don't scream i'm sorry all right so we're gonna review some of the girls dating app profiles starting
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hey it's me oh what what happens this oh this is seeking arrangement it's like a sugar daddy's side
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are there prompts to it also no not really not a lot yeah
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okay i do not do free dates or free get to know what does that mean i have to tell a little content
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about it because you just asked for dating site it's the one i have when i was underage i don't know
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if i can say that i went on a sugar daddy's side because we didn't have money and i was very hungry
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and i saw about it on social media and i was like yeah let's go on a paid date and get some food on
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the table sounds horrible but that's just the way i did it uh i'm not very active on the site
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anymore i just have it because my social media grow my media presence in the netherlands people
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will just pay like 200 euros but i never agreed with that uh i would say like 750 euros and above only to
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have dinner with me what's the amount of money like the average guy makes an hour in the netherlands
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uh if you work like a full-time job like 40 hours a week yeah in a month you will get like 750 to 200
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two and a half thousand 2500 euros is that the only thing we had to read it's not a lot next we have
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lucy should we have her read this or give me travel tips for siberian wilderness retreat obviously a
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joke i was gonna say the trans-siberian railway rocks i would be interested though
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yes would you guys swipe on bisexual queen
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oh yeah that's my friend gorgeous friend though and we're being baddies in vegas
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uh i said hope you like spicy brunettes lol i have unconventional job you'll either love it or hate
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it at least you're up front i don't want to say that um because if you say that you do
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any kind of sw they ban you so you have to like but i obviously like you're i'm not like
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i don't want to like lie to them i don't even want to talk to somebody that's not interested in
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that so if you're on like dating apps you are like willing to date civilians right yeah but
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you would obviously disclose your job right away wait a non-negotiable something casual yeah i don't
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do hookups you don't have brown hair either dude oh well whatever
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it may be it's been a little while since i updated it
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i'm gonna have to wait until now i'm gonna come back okay good pictures though thank you
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is there any more i don't really use dating apps though i just have it just all right guys would you
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guys swipe right or left what's for who what's yes or no i don't even know all of them i've never
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for which woman for which woman oh oh jesus you you're not really the wait what's your name
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uh tomorrow tomorrow you're not really my type i like uh more like like you give in bisexual queen
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right here that's all right i would swipe for you but not for you you look like you would kill me
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do i i don't know you would look like you would just stab me in my sleep i don't know you're scary
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a little bit too straight for me but i am straight i'm pretty straight i'm not the first time i've heard
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that i'm not gonna lie i do have a pretty nasty you said you wouldn't like you you wouldn't wait
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for sex though no i would if it's like somebody normal i mean honestly like if i meet somebody
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okay you meet a guy on bumble oh no i would yeah i wouldn't but if obviously you wouldn't what i
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wouldn't do that on the first date second date sure if i like if i get to know them like and i feel
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like it could maybe go somewhere sure okay i don't want to just get used though i'm not really down
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with the i don't really get anything out of casual sex okay but you you're not like hey i want to
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wait 10 dates no all right i don't really have an argument i can sense it out i would have an
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argument if you're like well yeah i want to wait 10 days but like you also do porn i feel like that
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would be kind of arbitrary like i'm interested in dating like people who also do content but the
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thing is it is kind of weird because your first interaction a lot of the time when you meet is
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like you're filming with them so it but like you can still get a sense of their personality and if you
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vibe with each other all right uh and then tomorrow i have you are you do i saw something
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fifteen hundred dollar meet and greet what so like if a guy asks you when can we meet you'll say
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fifteen hundred dollar you mean a quote i reposted on my instagram yeah i read that yeah it's not
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written by me it's just a quote i thought it was funny okay but if anybody wants to i'm the dutch
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jessica rabbit on instagram hit me up i'm here no no kidding but it's uh you know what when i
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didn't have money i was hungry i did that but i never really had sex with one of my dad just at
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one time it was just lonely man wanted to have dinner and i'm always a little bit scared of
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men as well i don't know i'm in the porn industry but i'm also a little bit scared of men i don't know
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why you said you do not really date you also never had a one night stand or anything
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no no never had a one night stand never and that's maybe i get her point a little bit you
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make an assumption because of the job and everything yeah but um maybe i got into porn a
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little bit because i have a little bit of sexual problems myself you hate it a lot right people
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getting in the industry because sometimes almost no offense they get exalted and they want to feel
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their power back so they get in the industry and like not to harm you with yourself or anything i
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didn't mean that but um like my how do you take that it's mental you're when somebody takes your
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virginity how you call that um i don't just take what it's called yeah i don't think there's a
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specific term for it it was a very funny way of doing that and every time i had some comments when
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he did that he was uh like oh you're too wet you have to go to the toilet so i went to the toilet
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every time then i had to what you know all right when i got my virginity taken away from me i left
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that guy and he walked away that was the first experience then i had the second guy and you
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know i was like okay now i'm really ready like yeah let's go okay and you get wet down there i
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know i was quite older when i got my virginity such thing at least from the guy yeah but like you're
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too wet i didn't know that's good yeah that would be a good thing i think there's not enough friction
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sometimes like it's just too like feels like nothing it's just now i know that but i was like 18 19
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years old i was a little bit older when they took my virginity for the rest but he also said oh you
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have to go to the toilet you have to wipe it away before we do sex so you get before you get to bed
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with him you would just think oh gosh i need to wipe it away and you go to think normally when you
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have sex with somebody your brain goes off you go into the tunnel fishing oh my god i love you so
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much let's do this it was and then i had the next guy and there was something else he was like
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oh your nipple gets too hard oh do not talk do not speak all your eyes are rolling back a little bit so
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every time no but you get to think so i never had an orgasm i never had anything like that so
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then i got like a normal relationship he didn't care it was like well that's
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i love you i don't care what you do but then you think too much because you think oh my god i need
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to go to the toilet i need to do everything so i didn't feel one with my own i've never asked a girl
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to like you're too wet that's so crazy if you're dating someone and you're going to be intimate with
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them and you're in your head i'm stop doing what you're doing that is why i never have a one i'd
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send i've never been on riddle tinder i just started tinder this year um maybe i'm a little bit not
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scared it's not a good word it's not like i'm scared of my mind i'm just scared sometimes like
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what if i do anything wrong and if i make my own movies i'm like in control i do not have an orgasm at
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all when i make my own movies i'm still like if i have an orgasm i lose control that's like a normal
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thing right you're losing you shut your brain up but i get scared because everything in my mind is going
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like oh my god what if i make a sound what if my eyes turning what if i i just get this real scary
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feeling and i just need a man to be like i'm gonna push you through they're gonna hold you down and
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just like maybe like raping is not a good word but we dominate about it so i get over that feeling
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and that's hard to explain i'm gonna read a chat here i do not feel one with my i don't know if i have
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a man who's like i i'm sorry i have to read this uh i i guide bangs a guy bangs a chick has entered a
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contract to possibly pay for the child he's equally liable for the kid and yes a woman can get an
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abortion for any reason and a guy has no safe period her choice all right wait are you like
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saying that's how it is or that it that is how it is um but are you saying like that's how it that
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that's good is that a statement of support i can't tell yeah yeah that's a good that's a good framing on
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that how about we not start this again yeah never well it came in like took me a while so
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either way to get back i had my last action he was very dominant and i didn't want to hurt his feelings
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and i said oh my god i had my first orgasm but i did not because i was still in my mind like oh my
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god what if i do anything wrong so for me making the content and the videos was getting a little bit
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control back in my mind and my body very wrong way maybe but it's my way and that's why i do not make
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movies with people because i'm like it's good i just want to say i'm so sorry for your experience
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oh i'm not and i'm i'm okay with it it was quite funny i love about it yeah i'm i do not feel i do
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not need to agree so you said uh what can we do as women to stop men from getting in their woman era
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what these are your notes what can we do as women to stop men getting in their women era yes uh
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that's maybe a netherlands thing i don't know how it is here like the sassy man apocalypse
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yes is that what you call it a lot of men are wearing like makeup doing their nails and it's
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not like that i do not care if a man wants to take care of himself look good smell good i don't know
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anything but i think as a man they still want a woman and as a woman we still in the back of our minds
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want a man that we can run to for safety and all the discussion we had
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and a lot of men are in their feminine era how can i find a manly man if every man i meet is like
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oh my god girl how are you i'm like dude and he's like a very bodybuilder man i think oh my god it's
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the man he's tattooed he's everything and he's like girl are you let's go to the nail salon together
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i'm like dude yeah it's like the main equinox they're all like kind of like that and i do not really
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like that it's nothing i do not have anything against being gay or anything but it's like
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i want a man where do i find this age where do i find a man correlate to your lifestyle and the
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people you spend time with in the places you go no i i'm not introvert i'm always at home i do not go
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out i do not go to festivals i do not i'm at home eating pickles with my are the effeminate men showing
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up to eat pickles with you how are you meeting them no i never meet i just probably need a man just
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be on the doorstep with a box of pickles i don't know but i i don't every time i meet a man that's
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why i'm first on cinder for this year it's very scary for me as well i meet a man i'm meeting them
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or seeing them walking in the supermarket i'm like are you really like straight or are you gay because
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and then they are straight but dressing so gay and i'm like okay there's nothing wrong with it but i
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just want to i want a man i want a man with hair on his legs and it would fight that bear for me in the
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forest this is a common problem modern women are having where everyone's like oh i really like
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this and then they get older and then they're like where's an actual man to date me but and you're
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like well but the women are giving giving themselves away to like the hassan piker types with their
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nails when they're goofy that's everybody's do you have beef with hassan i don't know i just think he's
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goofy you know like i get your point of view it's not for everybody but for me i just want a man and
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i cannot blame the man if you i'm very honest if you look at my instagram you know i make content
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i cannot blame a man for not taking me seriously like oh my god this woman is probably one i'd stand
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and then they meet me and they're like oh you're quite reserved you also go to church i don't know
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what the fuck is this i understand you go to church i just started as you with christian
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i don't know how you call it okay well good for you keep going i just started that as well and i
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know the content thing is not really part of it i'm working on it but uh i'm learning a lot just
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like yeah yeah keep learning and in the netherlands yeah faith is not really a big thing anymore it's
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very muslim country at the moment um but that's not the point but where do i find a real man and i
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cannot blame the man for looking at my instagram content page for thinking you know i cannot take
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this lady seriously because she makes contacts not in the city they are not i do not live in the
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city i live in the village i live in the hood well you need to not be in the netherlands apparently
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yeah i've been to a medium as well they say oh he lives not in the netherlands but where do i find
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wyoming go to wyoming go to wyoming you'll find them they're there are you there no i'm in utah but
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utah wyoming montana it's all the same place but either way where i cannot blame the man
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for looking at my page and everything i cannot blame them right but where do i find a man that's
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like you know what i'm still a man well so you want to go to the places that those manly men would
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usually like be manly at yeah you know and so i feel like church is one of those things um typically
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not always but church bass pro shops they're outdoors they live in the car meetings yeah yeah
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the thing is that in the city women prefer men who paint their nails and do all that kind of stuff
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and that's what gets you laid and so all the men are trying to do that and then you're like well
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where are the manly men and they're in a place where women don't prefer that so you need to go find
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women who don't like that and hang out with them my friends do have that sort of men but i cannot i
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just want to be like a woman i want to be at home cooking for you get you a fresh meal take care of
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the house and man doesn't have to leave a finger in my household it's not his job in my opinion well
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i think you have you're probably gonna get some dms
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you have a double problem here so the first thing is yes there's probably a decrease in the amount of
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of these men that you would deem to be a bit more like traditionally masculine but the other problem
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is even if you do find this sort of men the traditionally masculine men are probably going
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to have an issue i'm not saying this to attack you but they are probably going to have an issue with the
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concept and i do not blame them lifestyle being a sex worker i do not blame that's why i cannot
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blame them because i was a lingerie model first and they already judged you i didn't do anything
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and then i started my pay i cannot blame them for it but you still i mean as a woman you still find
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those kind of men attractive so that's kind of but there are not many men left that are just going
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to the gym have black hair you know oh my god come to the netherlands what do you mean there's a bunch
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i go to the gym like six days a week i see them all over the place but are they faithful are they
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true they're like fucked up bodybuilders that's something you have to find out by learning about them
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um i do i do got to move things on but good luck i'm sure a bunch of men will dm you uh we have
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giovanni jd can i have you read this uh uh not in your mind but out loud if possible i'm so sorry i
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didn't even know you said my name um you meet eff effeminate men because you're a prostitute masculine
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men don't want you and she'll say lots of masculine men want me they're not masculine if they'd entertain
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a prostitute i didn't say it i i i yeah in your defense you definitely didn't say that i didn't
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say that is this question for me or for everybody no it's a statement not so much a question but do
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do you want to date me are you muscular and just are you ready he's a lawyer oh my god i'm a student
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i'm a lawyer student we can start our own practice i have money okay yeah we have psycho to the dutch lady
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claiming to be dutch if you want a real man go to the south of the united states claiming to be
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dutch what does that even mean that is my parents my grandparents everybody is dutch who the fuck are
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you it's all the rules but if you're spending money just go to my only fan so thank you psycho
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appreciate it appreciate it thank you man uh let's see uh we need to get to maddie's notes maddie
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give me just a sec to get that pulled up here you said you're secretly dating your boss whoa
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not not anymore yeah i was gonna say that surprise not anymore right because you're the good girl here
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what do you mean no i'm still dating him what do you mean wait i'm still dating him yeah
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i thought you had a boyfriend oh man oh that's your boyfriend that's my boyfriend oh i thought it was
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another guy wait she's still dating the throat yeah yeah no we ended up together yeah i'm a detective
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nice you have a good memory okay uh you said that you may have groomed a 19 year old kid when you
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were 25 26 yeah okay so i wanted to bring that up because everybody always talks about whether it's
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good to have um an age gap relationship and this is why i think it's wrong just because of my experience
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i had gotten out of a really bad traumatic relationship and then i was like 25 26 he was
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maybe 19 and we became so attached at the hip that it got to the point where he was freaking
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out even though i told him i didn't want to date him that he that he was like i'm never going to
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find anybody else i love you why don't you love me what are you doing to the it was like traumatic
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for me and i felt so bad because it had to have been my fault to have done that to somebody younger
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you know does that make sense that's why that's what i mean by grooming is 19 young here what are
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the rules in america he was so young what is it and then it's like 18 what did you do wrong though
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like you what happened i guess i i feel like i i took advantage of him like he was almost a rebound
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from the ex and i told him from the get i was not going to be in a relationship but he kept begging
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he kept begging he was real in love and he's like i love you i love you i love you and he would not stop
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so i got to the point where i had said i love you once and i mean i did but i was not not i'm not
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on a i'm gonna wait how long did you see him for under a year okay but i mean so you hurt someone's
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feelings yeah he's a full-grown man i guess maybe i feel guilty for no reason how is it grooming for
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like you said you're 25 he was 19 like how would that be you grooming maybe i used the wrong word for
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sure i just you heard young men take heartbreak incredibly hard that's what i mean all of them
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they have feelings yeah okay you said that you stayed in an insanely toxic relationship with a
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drug dealer for three years yeah he was insanely addicted to cocaine and did lean oh my god is this
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the guy that preceded your grooming incident no that was the one that was right before it that's what i'm
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saying yeah yeah he's the bad relationship yeah do you think it was your karma for that boy absolutely
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like god gave you like the terrible man after this like haha punishment yeah no yeah he went to jail
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like several times really during yeah like we went to we went to cancun and uh i got completely black
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out drunk i don't drink anymore by the way it kind of kind of still do but uh i got so drunk i wake up
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and there's all this yelling outside of our apartment or uh like hotel room and all these
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girls are screaming at him because everybody in the vicinity had thought he was trying to take
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advantage of me because we were like fighting screaming i didn't i'm just standing there literally
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i'm just standing there and they're like what why why were you screaming why were you screaming
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and yeah we brought the worst out of each other and i'm the only one who didn't expect this i was like
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oh my god you're a good girl helping no i learned in a thrift store and just like totally
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dated a drug dealer and doing bad girl shit i yeah that's amazing i had a very terrible upbringing
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i yeah all right you said uh let's see we'll get into you said what you wanted to ask the panel what
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everyone's definition of high value actually is especially based off modern day society i like that
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yeah well you guys always talk about high value so do we well kind of think you're thinking like fresh
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and fit or like yeah i just what is what is a modern day achievable high value woman achievable high
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value woman yeah shane do you wanna i mean i guess a high value woman would be someone who makes you feel
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safe who doesn't embarrass you who is loyal but not just in terms of sex someone who will uh who doesn't
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care about like what you have or where you're going but cares about the content of your character
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a high value woman respects and loves you as a man despite what you have or where you're going in
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life she just wants to go there with you would you date a woman that's like richer than you and achieves
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more than you yeah most so until so i'm 37 until i was about 33 i worked two jobs in the paycheck to
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paycheck and so most of the women i had dated were doing better than me so i i grew up very poor so only
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recently have i come into money and so yes i would i've dated women who make more than me for sure
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yeah so i mean when and i wrote this down uh but uh so i when i think it hold on i gotta fix this uh
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when i think it comes to uh being high value it's an amalgamation of things so for example i think
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a woman having a low body count or being a virgin can make a woman high value but say she's a virgin
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or has a low body count but is heroin addicted and has a bunch of other vices and has a terrible
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personality um i wouldn't consider this person high value yeah uh so i think it's an amalgamation of
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things i don't think it's just simply one thing but so i guess i wrote down a list of what i think
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not they don't need to have all of these necessarily but if they have them then i think overall this would
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make a woman high value so uh this includes but it's not limited to beauty femininity submissiveness
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peaceful so not quarrelsome doesn't nag pleasant modest low body count or virgin minimal or no current
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vice drinking drugs smoking vaping etc minimal or no past vice drinking drugs smoking vaping etc
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uh an immediate undivided exclusive romantic and sexual attention so i think there's there's more
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things i could list but to break it down i think those are probably the most important things okay
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yeah so and on that last one i think it is amazing that i even need to state this but uh i guess
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prescriptive advice for men i think at bare minimum i don't think it under any circumstance
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i don't think men should consider or be sexually involved with a woman who is sleeping with another
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man or even worse multiple other men uh so and other guys for example other guys who will say
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shit like well she's not relationship material but i'd still smash or recreational use only i say no use
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only so even if you're a guy and if you're inclined to have like casual hookups one night stands
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or friends with benefits i still think it's an l for you to sleep with a girl who is or has recently
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been sexually active with another man yeah okay valid yeah i agree with most of those except for you said
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past issues with alcoholism or drugs why that one if it's in the past it's the same reason
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his body count look i mean some people have different if it's some people don't have objections
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to things in your past um i i do think it's a potential red flag i think people can redeem
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themselves i think people can have made mistakes in their past and absolutely go on and be great
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partners be good people um i just think if you can you can always optimize for like the best potentiality
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so i would say that someone who has no past advice or minimal past advice is likely to be a more optimal
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choice yeah now nobody's perfect yeah people are gonna have make mistakes but when it comes to dating
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both men and women are always going to want to try to get the most optimum partner partner they can
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so um yeah me personally i'm not a big drinker don't do drugs smoking whatever so uh rarely drink so
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you should try it no no there's nothing to be gained yes why why should i try it silly
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but when it tears your family apart yeah we're put you in dangerous yeah destroy homes yeah i'm
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impervious to peer pressure i'm not really interested in drinking but no i don't yeah i just never
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not addicted to it on the same card previous vice is bad but sometimes it is like if you have a five-year
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chip that is like an indicator that you've changed and you can do the work and that's actually a
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positive for a lot of people so there is that also if you are doing the work in redeeming yourself and
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changing and it's like i can see it that's a huge green flag right so if she's got the five-year chip
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then she yeah she's putting in work but if you're like and that's the same thing with the body count if
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you're like hey i've been so good for this long this is how i behave this is what i'm up to these
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are my boundaries but if you were like i'm in a relationship with you now but last month yeah
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you're like okay well what am i doing here so yep uh i'm trying to see what else though um
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i'll actually even take it a step further than like when i'm moving on off from the vice but when it
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comes to like the recreational use only um all that stuff um and how some men will like sleep with
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a girl who's sexually active with other men uh i think that should be the bare minimum but i actually
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take it a step further and i say if a girl is dating other men i'm not interested i really don't think
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there's anything wrong with that is that controversial i think it is well it's controversial insofar as
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the way a lot of people move into the dating landscape they're like they're they're involved
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with other people you know like a lot of girls they're dating some other dude most women aren't
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ever really single a lot of them are never truly there's some dude in the picture some guy they're
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fucking they're hooking up with whatever it is and so um but even if they're not hooking up with a
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guy but they're just like going on three like this girl right here no fan sizes uh she said she went on
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like seven dates a week if i if i was like date number two and then she's like yeah i got five
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more dates lined up or even if she didn't tell me but i knew about it i would just lose interest
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like i would lose interest that's okay like i think that's totally valid because i want to be the next
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bachelorette but you probably don't want to be someone who want to be the next bachelorette
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that totally makes sense you're entitled to your opinion and you'll find a girl that's perfect for you
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just like i'll find a guy that's proven for me brian you're gonna find love yeah
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it's okay you don't have to prove prove that to me i agree with you okay cool uh and then you wanted
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to talk about what a woman brings to a relationship because i think the podcast has really changed my
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opinion on that yeah no so i started watching a couple months ago i'm a big fan now but uh it really
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made me think you know we talk about how men bring all this to the table right they're the providers
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they'll build the house right but in modern day because it kind of goes along with what's
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a modern day woman what does a woman bring to the table nowadays i had to have this conversation with
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my boyfriend because i was really really interested because prior to being married i'm not necessarily
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cleaning cooking and doing all these things having his kid right um so i i guess i just wanted to
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see everybody else's opinion on that besides your body because to me i don't understand why people's
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bodies on both sides even matter i think this is a problem again we are facing and women becomes
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more men nowadays we have to work we have to do this we have to do that so how i'm going to take care of
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a house if i have to do everything the same as a man what is a modern version of what do you want to be a
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modern version of a woman no i think you have to ask yourself that do i want to be
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a half of a man in a relationship if you do not want to be be powerful as a woman and act like a
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woman and let the man be the man that's fair stop comparing yourself to men because you're not yeah
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if a man builds a house a woman's job is to fill it with love she makes it a home you are the heart
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of the house a man makes a house and you are the heart of it what men want is peace so you need to
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bring peace love and gentleness into the life of someone who doesn't experience that on the daily if
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you're a man you're not experiencing gentleness you're not experiencing kindness and you're very
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rarely experiencing love even the love of your brothers is not the same as the love of a woman so
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it's your job to bring love gentleness and you know these sorts of things into in peace most
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importantly peace that's why when he says no nagging no quarrelsome it's like my whole life is conflict
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as a man at any time like there's so many times when you're like i'm about to fight this guy right
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now like all the time your whole life is just you're hyper aware of the
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violence around you and how competitive other men are and yada yada yada and when you come home
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you want a woman to bring peace gentleness and love into your life and that's exactly my point
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a lot of women saying oh men do not understand how it is to be a moment we do not understand what it is
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to be a man now to be tough and how to defend your home and everything else and not be able to speak
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about some things i think if you want to be like the heart of the house and be like feminine don't
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be the man actively gently be so proud of being a woman and be strong at being a woman you can't
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exist in the space so you have to be proactive with it you have to be proactively gentle proactively
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loving yourself as a woman just be proud i have a question why are you expecting women to provide you
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provide you the peace why don't you go see a therapist and find peace within yourself or like
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your god oh i have tons of p like personal peace in my life but in terms of a relationship where i'm
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sharing a space with another person and we're building a life or a home or a situation together
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then what i have to offer isn't so much that i think that a woman is better equipped to bring
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love gentleness and peace into my life shane if i if i can jump in please so i think so you have peace
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when you're single yes and so when we say we want peace from a woman it's not like our life is chaotic
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oh excuse me uh sorry i'm on i'm on the switchboard here too now i'm not in hosting so if your life is
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uh hold on how do i want to frame this here so if your life is not chaotic as a guy like we're not
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looking or no if your life is chaotic as a guy we're not looking for women to like be a cure to the chaos
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in our lives we just don't want you to add more to it that's there you like we don't want you to like
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be a liability we don't want arguing and drama and conflict we want you to like
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you said comfort earlier yes we want you to be our peace and comfort yeah not a burden yeah yeah
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yeah you know how like if you have a problem and you tell a man he tries to give you the solution and
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that's annoying right you don't you don't you don't want a solution oriented man you want a listening
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supportive man men want that but it needs it's it's not just in terms of listening a man needs
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a physical space full of that like i want you to proactively love me bring gentleness and kindness
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into my life i want to be in the space and be so thankful that you're sharing that space with me
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because together we have created a place where i feel safe and good because i could do that without
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you but it's more rewarding with you but only if you're playing ball you know and then i'll provide
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you with security safety possibly money and these sorts of things yeah i would always
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can you tilt your mic down i would always prefer tilt it down like this yeah go ahead i always prefer
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peace and harmony over chaos of course i agree with that but so i i'm a little curious by your
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questioning here because like do you think are you trying to say that men should have an expectation
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that women come into a relationship like coming into a relationship are gonna create chaos no that's
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not my expectation or that we should like tolerate your nagging and quarreling no i don't think that's
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the case either but so then why the objection to the claim of men no i was just more curious in
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his personal experience if he is depending on woman to give her him peace or has he found peace
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i'm depending on the woman to bring me the the peace that only feminine energy the gentleness that
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only feminine energy can bring me i cannot replicate that and so i need a woman to fill my life with that
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and the only way to but you have to be proactive in it and a lot of people aren't so that's what a
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woman can bring she doesn't need to provide she doesn't need to be sexy she doesn't need to do
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all these crazy porn star things or whatever she just needs to make me feel safe loved and peaceful
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all right and then uh i think your last thing here uh or you have two things you think your crazy
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stories are more partying stories than actual people i dated your senior year i did the guy who
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purposely drove 100 miles in pouring rain to scare me to death then threatened me with bds and toys
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i'm so dead serious yes what yeah like i said bad childhood great adult but uh no senior year i
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dated a guy that was much much older than me and i was drinking at a party and i called him because i
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needed to ride out of there because there were people showing up that i didn't want to be around
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he got so unbelievably mad at me because he had to come and pick me up and it was down torrential down
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port rain he's driving a hundred miles down the road and uh told me when we got to his place that
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he purposely did that to scare me and then this weirdo puts he goes out he goes into another room
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comes back and just starts laying out bdsm toys like these are going to be your punishment for
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needing me to come pick you up that's so i dated that guy for one week and he said he had never loved
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someone more in his life and he i broke up with him because of that experience and he shows up at
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my mom's apartment door banging on the door because he could not understand why i broke up with him
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it's kind of sexy how did how does he know your mom's i don't know actually i don't remember but i
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think he might have picked me up from how old was he and how old were you he was like he was driving
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28 maybe and how old were you 19. still sexy though it was terrifying you were in the car while he was
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driving really fast yeah ever since then anytime i'm in a car with a guy and he gets mad and starts
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driving faster it gives me anxiety you know that's ptsd you know just give him a blowjob in the car when
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he's mad he will not be mad anymore that is that is abuse that is not right uh we have a message
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from psycho the fact that you only noticed me spending money and suggested your of might want to
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commit more to the christian lifestyle and shut down your of this is to the lady claiming to be dutch
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lol you know i read this before you pull it up what is your thing with claiming to be dutch do you
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want to see my passport do you want to go out and eat strobe waffles and croquette with me it's
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fine i will take you out and we can have some dutch food you can come over with me and be a dutch
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here with me i'm totally dutch you can stay at my house as well for free you do not have to pay me
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that's fine yeah i'm dutch what do you want uh the twitch
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go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a phone a prime sub if you have one uh we haven't had a prime
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in 12 minutes guys i think it's bugged help all right and then we are going to last things here
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we have a few clips to react to from isis we're reacting to some isis tick tocks
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finally getting to them um we there's so many but um okay you pick we have the highlight reels
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oh this is so guys i think i'm going to go actually really oh all right i want to say thank
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you anyway so all right isis read this currently i only care about two things orgasms and follower
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count fair point you forgot money no i care more about follower come right this moment okay sorry one
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sec guys the distance between you realize that that man is about to kiss you till he actually kisses
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you that length dictates how douchey he is all the finance bros before i realize it they already over
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here and finish kissing me when there's this one guy he was like very slowly but i i know he's got no
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game but that makes me feel safe it makes me feel like he's authentic it made me know who he is not
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all those finance girls bros that just like in and i can't like that's too smooth something is off
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do you live in manhattan yeah okay yeah i'ma i'ma come busy like it yeah please do if you tip under 20
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do not go on a date with me okay that's embarrassing for me oh that's kind of that's harsh yeah i tip
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20 usually but i think it depends right like if you're not making a lot of money i don't think
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first of all i will go on a date with you so there because i i know that i don't want you to spend the
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money that you don't have so because of my standard i say 20 i just don't want to be embarrassed how
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much that's the type of person if he would take you out on a picnic that wouldn't cost a thing would
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you like go yeah of course i love picnics just a guy i have to make for you to yeah be to go on a date
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with him yeah i think at least 200k a year at least how do you find out i kind of think about
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their job just context clues context clues all right so you don't ask oh yeah okay you ask how
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much they make yeah i stayed before taking you out how tall does a guy have to be for you today in the
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past i said six feet but now i said like i'm flexible yeah you got another video i'm gonna delete
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this tomorrow same thing as the story though there are only two things i care about right now in my
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life one is orgasms two is my followers count but this is the same as my story but you did not delete
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this video this is part of her 2024 era sorry stop dming me i'm not going to respond to any of you
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like i'm sorry but with all due respect who do you think you are how do you think you're adding to my
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life first of all i will become a billionaire so if you're gonna give me money then sure you're adding
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to my life that's worth maybe three seconds of conversation other than that first of all you
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cannot give me orgasm not as good as the ones i gave myself second of all men traumatizes me when
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i see you right now i want to throw up that doesn't mean i hate you i don't hate you at all i just don't
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want anything to do with you and if you could you didn't do five years of therapy and if you couldn't do
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all the hobbies i could do then just shut up i just you you're not worth it i'm sorry make yourself
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worth more or give me money but if a billionaire slips slides in your dm you would right i will go on a
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date with him but you say do not dm me so you scared them scared them off a little bit that's
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okay were they being mean to you is that why you posted that you're just getting were you just
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getting crazy dms from people being yeah i was getting a lot of dms at the time because i was
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so i had this like incident with equinox because a lot of men go to equinox so i was getting a lot of
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bad dms from men and also that was about the time i was blowing up a little so there's a lot of opinion
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from men that is pretty bad but those are not the tiktoks i think are the best representation
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of my life but i don't think they're the funniest wait so okay really quick so what you you keep
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saying this stuff about the orgasms and that the men they're not pleasing you right but like isn't
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this the complaint that women have about men that they have porn brain and they can no longer like get
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erections or like they're not sexually pleased because they're like so demented by all the porn
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they've watched but like do you watch porn i do watch porn but not very often and you just focus on
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my vibrator it's just a vibrator you use yeah so like if i have vibrator or dildo then i don't need
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porn because they're very strong but if i if i'm like for example right now i'm vacationing and i
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don't i didn't bring my vibrator so like i might want some visual stimulation it's either or you know it
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depends okay can you do without can you do like months without sexual stimulation like if it
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depends on the situation if i was in when i was in a long-term relationship when i first broke up
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it was like if i don't i would have wet dreams if i don't masturbate but then if there was right now
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there's a long time i haven't had sex so now i'm like whatever okay wait how long have you been
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celibate yeah i i because i don't know because i didn't keep track of the month the early the last time
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i had sex was earlier this year with my ex like nine months ago did you almost say husband just
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now yeah i think she said uh we were kind of sick and like x wait so you've been celibate for like
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so you didn't marry him when he brought that ring in the champagne to you and then get a divorce and
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you're hiding it i i didn't get a divorce now oh so you're still married no i'm not married oh
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okay you were previously married no you proposed i never keep up okay that's not what i said yeah
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wait so i'm just oh wait i'm just curious so like all the men that like can't make you come
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now that you've like masturbated so much is it hard for you to climax no it's not it's easier
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it's easier because i know what i like i know which angle i like and i know how to clinch more
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but do you think a man can it's a practice i got better for you do you think a man would ever be
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good enough and bad for you yeah of course i have men that are good for me but like i have to have
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emotional connection there's a few more videos i'll get this pulled up maddie take it away
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go maddie go maddie go maddie more tiktoks from isis okay i'm pulling it up right now
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so i was sad so i tried to use my happy machine
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but you know obviously all you can think about is him so he wasn't that happy but also the cord was
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so short and then they just like unplugged right in the middle when i tried to plug it i plugged the
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wrong thing i plugged in my charger the female orgasm is the only activity that lights up every
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part of a female brain that's actually funny right now because i can't go in class
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this actually is funny it is funny actually we've all been there that actually happened
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we've all been there like you are horny your toy doesn't work divorce is hard oh shut up
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should i read that the ccp plant is arguably the most despicable woman to ever be on the podcast
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promotes promiscuity prostitution finndom essay against men abortion cuckoldry pornography and
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she's r-worded demon about who is this uh i feel like you're talking about who is this about yeah
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speaking of the pin so like he has the largest i've ever ever since nine because i know it because i
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always know this is six because i measure it because i don't want men to fool me so every time
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before i do anything with them i'm like measure it so like i know it's one two three nine but you
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know what for someone who's so handsome and so well endowed he's really not good at you know s-e-x
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it's just there's just it's just you know it's how you use it you know there's such a thing going to too
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real raw emotions you're already going through it at that moment so you can never attack me again
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for saying oh you measure it before you see it on tiktok it's out there
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why are you always in bed because i love me ask me how old i am i met a woman yesterday she asked me
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how old i am i said 27 almost 28 she was like oh my god so many women already married at your age
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how come you're still single and i asked her how old are you she said also 20 something and i was
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like there are so many women who are dead in their 20s why are you still alive
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that was really funny actually play a laugh track
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let me tell you about a moment when i wish i was white this is a long one i'm not saying it's right
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but i'm saying that's how i felt at the time i had this crush on this person
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at work it doesn't go away it doesn't i didn't like him i just wanted i can't i can give you a
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story it's just i invited guys so naturally i hosted a
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you hosted a whole party just to have a guy over yeah yeah and then he told me and he got drunk he
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told me that i i know you like me i know you're pretty but you're just not it's not my type i only
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like white girls that was it was a long time ago let me tell you about a moment when i wish i was
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white i'm not sorry it's right but i'm saying that's how i felt at the time i had this crush on
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this person at work i knew i didn't like him i just wanted him to like me for the validation
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this is pre-therapy so naturally i hosted a party just so that i can invite him
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this is the difference for me i want to hear the etiquette brought him like black
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i was the one i want to yeah i want to let you know
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At a certain point of the conversation, I said to him,
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You look pretty, but you're just not white, verbatim.
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Can I ask a question about white and not white?
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But in my eyes, not racist, you are almost the same skin color.
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Age range is now, my dating age range is now 18 till death.
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Because trust me, if you close your eyes, it's all the same.
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If you wanted to find a man that treats you the way you want to be treated, you would.
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You're still staying with the same dipshit because you want him to change for you.
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You want him to do better, be a better man.
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It's because you're too scared to be alone so that you put the responsibility to change onto others.
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That actually is like a big reason I say it in my past relationship for so long.
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It's actually the first thing I agree with you.
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We finally found something you said we all agree about.
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The distance between when you realize that that man is about to kiss you, too.
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This is very shameful for me to admit, but consciously, yeah, I came to the mall to buy things, but subconsciously...
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Like, I don't want to see him, but I want to see him.
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Because running into him doesn't mean going back to him, so at least I can...
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And I know post-in-ness is dangerous because I have comments saying, oh, he must be laughing at you right now.
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He doesn't even know I have this TikTok, and I hope he doesn't see it.
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But since I want my platform to be built on truth, I just want him to tell you guys that I'm not doing well all the time.
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And I do secretly wish that I can run into him, but for what?
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I dated a guy, and I caught him cheating with another woman.
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It's because I already ate, because I was like, I don't have to come anymore.
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No, I just was like, you don't have to come anymore anymore.
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Because he had excuses about work, but it was kind of fishy, because he kept pushing it.
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Did he buy you a bracelet after that, because he was guilty?
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He said, oh, no matter what I say, remember that I'll always remember you fondly.
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And I'm like, great, but I'll always remember this.
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I'm always going to be traumatized by this while you remember me for all the great things
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But I am the one hurting, and you remember the good memories.
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Is this why you traumatized men back, because you got hurt?
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I just want to know if other people feel the same way, that I just had a date.
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But sometimes, after a date, I just feel incredibly sad, even if everything went well.
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He didn't send you money, he didn't buy you anything.
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Nothing's worse than being close to someone and still feeling alone.
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And she feels alone, because you definitely shouldn't be dating as much as you are.
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Were you, like, thinking about someone else, or were you comparing him to someone else?
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Like, during the date, I feel like I had a tension, and I envision the future with this person.
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And I also worry that by knowing him more, well, I get disappointed.
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So, you're just really looking for someone that spark?
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So, he mended up a little bit and took you out?
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And he's the type of person that, like I said, I always had a height requirement.
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It made me realize, oh, maybe I have been wrong about people.
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I deeply feel that if we had you back on this podcast a year from now, you would be like,
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So, um, not all things to use, but, um, hold on.
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The first episode of my dating life features a board of humor.
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And Gatekeep, or will this be season full of authentic love and affection only times
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Is this you living out your bachelorette fantasy?
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But wait, you just said you want to be happy alone.
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Who would have thought a very spicy episode is coming soon?
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Um, oh, this is the guy who bought you the 2,500 Tiffany bracelet or whatever?
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Unfortunately, they'll be dying alone while I'm, once again, on a plane.
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So, there's an interesting thing here that's coming up.
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Uh, I guess, eh, us girls never want to do it.
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We want to come, child, with you, going out loud.
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Okay, then there's a bunch of, like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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I rarely swipe right on men who say they're six feet on hinge.
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Because that could mean that anywhere from here.
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Because they could mean anywhere from five, nine point five to six.
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And you know what I call men below six feet tall?
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No, but is it, like, a bad thing for you to say that you like him and you love him a little bit?
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He said he had a math PhD and he told me all about time and space and how time is coming.
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Because it's about exposing some men and I don't want, like, everybody to know him.
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They will lock up your Instagram and they will.
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And if it's public, you're going to have to delete it after this if you want.
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And what you guys don't know was there's one time we were rooming together.
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Another funny thing is every single one of my ex after our breakup just got jacked.
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But if I just wait one more day, my cleaner will come.
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The attention she's gotten on this podcast shows y'all are pathetic.
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How are you going to have a reality show if you don't want your business out there like
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No matter how disgusting you are, trust me, I can be more disgusting.
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Wait, I'm going to be rude, but did you write, I'm the bravest person I've ever met?
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I think it takes a certain type of narcissism to record a video of yourself talking, watch
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it back, smile, and be like, yeah, that's right.
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So I was sad, so I tried to use my happy machine.
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Can you ever pause for a second and think, how can I just do such cringe?
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Honestly, there's like so much more on the TikTok that...
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It's a good advertisement for your TikTok, though.
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Any final thoughts here before we wrap up the show?
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I wonder if like there's a break possible for future guests.
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I had to get up and walk around quite a few times.
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Today's show is a little longer than normal, but...
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For some entertainment where guests can rest a bit.
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And then we're here to get to the bottom of all the crazy...
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I mean, it's been between like seven and eight hours.
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Has anybody ever asked why you started doing all this?
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We'll do a five, ten-minute row session, then we'll wrap the show.
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I think in your notes, you said that you used to have kind of a crazy life, but now you're
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And you're trying to change things up or what's up?
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Like going from being a bad person to trying to be a good person?
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And then I did crime when I was young and was in a motorcycle club and, you know, beat
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people up for money and robbed people and did all kinds of bad stuff.
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And then I lived like a very, I don't know, like sex-positive liberal lifestyle where I
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was like, you know, trying to do comedy and go to New York, whatever.
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And then that was destroying my life because those values are not conducive to having a
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fulfilling good life in good relationships with people.
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And I noticed that everyone around me who did porn or...
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Brian, ever notice the general female infatuation with 666?
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Six feet tall, six-figure income, six pack abs.
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I like the Dutch gal, the Korean gal, get a cat.
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We got a couple more that are going to be coming through.
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Chair 2 most delusional arse lowered 304 in all of whatever podcast history.
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Maddie, please smack the fuck out of this stupid, crazy bish.
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We'll do 10 minutes, then we got to wrap the show, guys.
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Oh, maybe he was talking shit about both of you then.
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You didn't even speak so much, so how can he be mad?
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We're going to wrap up the show here in a few minutes.
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Curtis underscore Leon underscore donated $30.
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Brian is so fat you have to pack a lunch to walk around him.
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Layla has to slap his thigh and ride the wave in.
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He's so fat his Newig profile pic is an aerial photograph.
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Oh, I just, we bump it down at the beginning, at the very end for like 10 minutes.
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Just if somebody wants to send in a kind of final message before we wrap the show.
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I feel like we got to, we got to do a deep dive on another episode.
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I'm going to start getting the raid going for Twitch.
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Isis was worse than Desiree and Findem Redhead.
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Pink dress is cute, but she should quit prostitution.
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I'll be sure to proselytize harder next time I'm on the silly dating podcast.
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If you're religious, people are like, why weren't you more religious?
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But if you're more religious, people are like, why aren't you less religious?
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I would love to talk more about the porn industry.
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Matthew Harder, hey, Ned Flanders, I don't care how many tattoos you get, you will never
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Are we going to say our Instagrams again or anything?
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No, you're going to delete your OnlyFans is what you're going to do.
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My OnlyFans is for free at the moment, so no, I'm not deleting it.
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You want to find a good, masculine, traditional man?
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Oh, no, but I will take the labias with me on the date.
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You should donate those to someone who wants to have a foreskin again.
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So is there an opening for us to go on the date?
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What is the one country in Europe who surrendered their capital city without a fight?
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Ten years in the USMC, but I never sent in a draft card.
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Dutch lady, if you want a traditional man,
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you will delete your event, actually commit.
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Otherwise, you are a typical Netherlands heretic.
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Why does Blondie's only scams say she is online if she isn't?
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Dutch lady, if you want a traditional man,
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you will delete the year off and text your link commit.
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Otherwise, you are atypical in the Netherlands heretic.
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I thought it was Dutch because Dutch is a very unserious language.
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It sounds like the Swedish chef from the Muppets to me.
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Don't talk about the Dutch people like that.
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My problem is you claim one thing, but then do another thing.
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At some point in your life, you will realize the mistakes and wish you had taken my advice.
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That's not very true because I told in the podcast, eventually I will stop, but you have
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It's not safe for me to stop yet because if you're making a sort of amount of money to
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live off, like your rent and everything and everything is so expensive, if I stop immediately,
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I cannot pay for things and I do not have a roof above my head, I cannot pay for food
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Faced tummy ache girl and her redhead friend.
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Anything else you want to say about me anonymously?
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If you guys want, get your last, you can get your last one in.
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You had a good exchange with Vivian, but lasted with hypotheticals.
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Maddie, you could have saved us from her TikTok, but didn't.
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Tackle Brian, psycho donated $30 saying eventually is a scapegoat.
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You could easily cut your expenses and live like millions of people do.
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The rent is the rent, and it cannot go to my landlord and say, hey, I do not want to
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Okay, guys, before I wrap up, last chance, any final thoughts?
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Follow me on Instagram, the Dutch Jessica Rabbit.
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Netflix, give Isis one season of a show and then cancel it.
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30-year-old father of two, any advice for moving on after my wife of seven years cheated
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You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
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Thank you to everyone who so generously super chats, donates, and supports the show.
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We will be live again Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific with another dating talk.
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Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
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As a Southern man, yes, you would live at my place.
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You're just a little frustrated liking redheads with big tits.
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Let me just double check that that's everything that came through.
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I'd love to have you guys back again for another show.