She Dated DRAKE?! Gold Digger?! $5,000,000⧸Year To Date Her?! Prison Dating?! | Dating Talk #259
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8 hours and 18 minutes
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180.44814
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483
Summary
On this week's episode of Whatever Dating Talk, Brian and Alex are joined by a very special guest to talk about their love for Kanye West. They also talk about the new show Isabelle Brown's new show at The Daily Wire.
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slash whatever. If you're my Caucasian, you will join the discord. Final thing, guys. Final thing.
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Isabel Brown. We've had her on the show, uh, twice. Very nice girl. Um, very cool girl. She's
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launching a, uh, brand new show at the daily wire. It's every weekday. Isabel takes on the tough
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fights, debates, and conversations that actually move culture forward. She's, she's a homie. She's
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been on the show twice. So show her some love. Uh, she's got millions of followers, big following
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on Instagram, and she's bringing bold Gen Z perspective on culture, politics, science,
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faith, and more. Don't miss it. You can watch the Isabel Brown show every weekday on daily
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wire plus or listen wherever you get your podcasts. Without further ado, we're going to have the
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guests introduce themselves. So please tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from
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in education. Go ahead. I am Alex. I'm 19 and I am from Riverside, California. Uh, so like
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an hour out of LA and I am a freelance photographer and like right now I'm not doing anything for
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school. So. You graduated high school? No, I actually haven't yet. I'm still working on that.
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You dropped out? Yeah. It's so like, that's, it's a really long story. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. Well,
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I think I looked at your Instagram a bit. You, you were in the troubled teen industry. Yeah. That's,
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that's actually why I'm not done. Cause it like. Do you have, are you trying to get your GED?
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Yeah. I'm getting my high set, which is like similar to the GED. So I'm like halfway done
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with that. What's it called? It's a high set. So it's like the California kind of like version of
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that. Okay. And you say you do photography for your occupation? Yes. And you're from California?
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Yes. Okay. Uh, what is the troubled teen industry? Give us like a brief plot synopsis.
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So it's like a system of like programs. They're not like really owned by the same people,
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but at some point they kind of were, which was like wasp. But basically it's like
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your parent is like having a hard time with you. Cause you're like depressed and you know,
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you're suicidal and you're having a hard time in school. And so they're like, Oh, my kid really
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needs help. Like dah, dah, dah. What do I do? And then like Google, like throw all these like
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different places at you. And that's kind of like how it happened. So my parents decided to send me
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there, but it's basically like, uh, what they call like a residential treatment center. But
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generally like it'll be in Utah and they're like really abusive. Like normally, like they don't
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actually do anything that they're supposed to do. And they'll just kind of like keep you in there and
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spend all your parents money. So it's like a prison kind of, sort of. Yeah. I mean like there are girls
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who have been to juvie that like go there and they're like, take me back. Like, please. Like it was
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better in juvie. Have you been to juvie? No, thank God. Okay. Yeah. Cause on your Instagram,
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there's like, what looks like a mugshot. So that's my picture from the program.
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Okay. Yeah. Like that's from my first day there. You're troubled. It's a camp. Yeah. It's right.
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Like I don't even know what to call it. They take a mugshot. But no, literally my therapist,
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when she sent it to me, she was like, how that looks like a mugshot. I was like, yeah, thanks.
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Oh, okay. And you're wearing like orange. It looks like a jumpsuit. They make you wear orange
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when you're on phase one. You like don't have, yeah, you don't have any of your clothes and you have
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all these phases. I'm telling you, it's such a long story. Well, what, I guess what got you sent
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to, have you been to multiple of these camps first off? So I went to that one, but like I've,
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I've been in like mental hospitals and like other like programs before, but I never like left the
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state for it until then. So like, it was like a year of me just being like in and out of the like
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psych ward, like out in LA and stuff. And then I went to like an IOP and like some other like short
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term program. What's IOP? Intensive outpatient. So it's like you spend like. What came first,
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the psych ward or the troubled teen camp? It was IOP. Then it was the psych ward like a couple times.
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And then the camp. And then yeah, like one place. And then I was good for like a couple months. And
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then they just like randomly decided to send me. And then how old were you when you first went to
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the psych ward? The first time I went to the like actual like psych ward, I was, I had just turned
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15. 15. Okay. And, but did your troubles start sooner than 15? Yeah, I was like 12. When what
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started? Um, I don't know. I got like really depressed, like out of nowhere. Okay. Um,
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were you like, uh, like causing trouble in school or were you doing drugs or? No, I was just like
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really sad. Like literally like, that's kind of why it like sucks is I was just like a sad kid.
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I don't know. Was there like problems until I was like, yeah. Was there a reason for like,
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was it clinical depression? Were there, I mean like now I've been like diagnosed and so has my
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brother. So we have autism that like was just something that got ignored. And funny thing,
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like when I got diagnosed, my family was like, yeah, we've been new. So why didn't you do anything
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like, hello? Do you have any other diagnoses? Yeah. I'm like off paper diagnosed with borderline
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because we don't want to, yeah, we don't want to put that on paper. That's something like kind of
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whatever, but, and then, uh, CPTSD. So from the camps, it's just from like a lifetime of, okay.
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How many times have you been in the psych ward? Uh, four times. And how many different camps did you
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go to? I went to like one short term and one long term. And was there any, uh, like in school,
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any behavioral issues? Um, no, like, yeah, like I never got like suspended or like in trouble,
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like with anything. Were you disruptive in classes or? I talked like that. You talked clearly. Like,
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yeah, I just talk a lot. And, uh, any like drug use? Uh, that was like after I started going to the,
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like psych ward and stuff, I started smoking weed when I was like 12, 13, which was like pretty
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young. So here's the thing where I live, like where I grew up, which is like Coachella Valley,
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Palm Springs area. It's like very, very normal out there. And like anyone who grows up out there
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for whatever reason, like everyone I knew started smoking at like 11. So I was like late to the party
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when I started doing late bloomer. In the silliest way possible. Is that junior high or is that still
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elementary school? It's like the beginning of middle school. Yeah. Like seventh grade? It's
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obnoxious. It's like, it's really bad. Cause like parent, like parents will let their kids do it and
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stuff. Good times. Okay. Um, any other diagnoses? You said CPT, CPTSD. Yeah. And then BPD and autism.
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Yeah. Are you Asperger's or? It's just like, like you play the flute or something really well?
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You know what? I, I wish that it like benefited me more. I just remember like,
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I don't, yeah, I don't know. I wish it benefited me more. I was going to say,
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I remember like random facts, but they're completely useless. I feel like it more just
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like impacts my ability to like learn. And, um, when's the last time you've been either to one of
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these camps or psych warden? Um, like the, when I graduated, so my program, uh, when I graduated
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my program. So it's been since 2023 of December. So like two years. Yeah. Okay. All right. Good
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times. Fun stuff, right? What about you? Hi, my name is Chloe. I'm 25 years old from San Jose. I'm,
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uh, working as a sales sales. Yeah. Okay. What kind of sales do you do? Uh, I sell Mercedes.
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Mercedes. Mercedes. And you work for a dealership or it's one, it's the biggest dealership in Bay Area,
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Mercedes dealership. Gotcha. Okay. Biggest dealership. Nice. And you get paid commission
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or how does that work? Yeah. Solely based on commission. I don't know if it's okay to say
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the pay plan, but yeah. Gotcha. You, so like if you sell, I don't know, tell, tell me a popular
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Mercedes car. Oh, well for me, average about over 20 cars a month, but I'm at the top, like the most
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top, top is sales. Okay. How much, what, uh, so if you sell one car, what do you make? Like a
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thousand? It very varies. Like depends on the growth on the car. Some car are losers. We call it lose
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money and some car will make huge growth in it and depends on the growth in a car. Okay. So,
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and you said you're from San Francisco where you currently live and you grew up there. Yeah.
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Yeah. I'm currently living in San Jose. Uh, Bay Area. Bay Area. Okay. And I detect an accent.
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Were you born? Oh yeah. I'm Chinese. Chinese? From mainland.
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Mainland China. Okay. Gotcha. And, uh, any education? Uh, yeah. I have a bachelor degree of Korean
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language. Korean language. Okay. From where? Uh, from China. From China. Okay. Did you, uh, go to
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school here? Um, not like degree. I didn't get a degree here, but I did, uh, participate some
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program here. Like. Okay. Did you, you didn't do any university here in the U.S.? Not at all.
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When did you move to the U.S.? Actually two and a half years ago. Two and a half years ago. Okay.
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I know. And you lived in, uh, South Korea for, uh, a bit? Uh, about one, one year. Are you fluent in
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Korean? I was, I'd say. You were? Not anymore. So you speak Mandarin and you speak English?
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Mm-hmm. Any other languages? Uh, just that. Three of them. Okay. And Korean. But not fluent? You're
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not super fluent? Well, I can understand though. You understand it. Okay. Gotcha. All right. Cool. Uh,
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if you guys, if you're in the Northern California, Nina Mercedes, she's your girl. Um,
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do you, have you sold any other kind of cars, exotic cars, anything like that? Uh, well,
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for new cars, we only have Mercedes, but we do have different brands of used cars, like
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all the brands used cars. Okay. Very cool. Very cool. What about you? Hi, my name is Kylie.
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Um, I'm originally from West Village, New York, but I moved to San Francisco about maybe 10 years
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old. Um, right now I don't have a job. Um, oh, I'm also 18. Uh, right now I'm also taking a gap
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year. So, yeah. Okay. How long you been in Santa Barbara? Uh, like two weeks. I'm here
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with a friend from now. Yeah. Okay. Are you, you're not going to the college or anything?
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No, I just kind of want to travel around for a bit. And since I've always been in the
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NorCal area, I just wanted to try SoCal for a bit. Gotcha. And you said you're from New
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York? Yeah. West Village, New York. Okay. That's Manhattan, right? Yeah. It's like, it's
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like really close to SoHo, if you know where that is. No idea. But it's Manhattan, right?
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Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Um, and you, you came with a friend or? Um, yeah, she's actually
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staying right down the street. Um, and it was perfect timing cause I was still living in
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San Francisco and I like, oh yeah, I'm moving to Santa Barbara. So why not? Yeah. All right.
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Cool. What about you? Hi, my name is Queen D. I just turned 24 two weeks ago and I'm from
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Orange County, California. Um, right now I don't have a job, but I was a medical assistant.
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Um, and I am a full time, full time student for business. Gotcha. Um, and you, uh, also do
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what or used to do what? I used to do a laugh. Okay. Um, but because of, uh, just personal
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reasons, I don't want to do it anymore. Were you, and were you doing boy girl content on
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there? No, it was just, it was just like lingerie, um, no, like full body, nothing like
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that. Got it. Okay. And so your name is what? It's Queen D. Queen D. Yes. Queen space D.
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No. Queen D's together. Q-U-E-E-N-D-Y. Queen D. Yeah. That's your government. Yes. My government
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name. Government name. Yes. Queen D. Yes. Okay. Queen, Queen D-Y. Yeah. Queen D-Y. Gotcha.
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Cause yeah, I wasn't sure. I just wanted to specify. Um, you also said that you're an, uh,
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in your notes, you're a unemployed sugar baby. What is, um, so you're nothing then? You
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used to be a sugar baby, I guess. I mean, I guess here and there, like I would, um, like I
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guess date people and then, you know, they would offer me things or whatever. I wouldn't
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consider it sugar baby if they're like offering me, I'm not asking. Um, but right now I'm more
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like focusing on myself and, um, like school. So you don't currently have a sugar daddy?
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I have, yes. Sort of. Sort of, yeah. Okay. All right. Uh, what about you?
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Okay. I'm a frotta. Um, I'm 18 years old and I'm currently in school, um, as a biology
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major. Um, yeah, I'm from Houston. Yeah. And bio majors. Do you want to be a doctor? Yeah.
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I want to go to school. Um, I want to go to med school to be an anesthesiologist. Okay.
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They make good money. Uh, you gotta be careful though. You gotta be, you know, they can kill
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people. Yeah, I know. OD them on the, yeah. Yeah. All right. Be careful. Not after a night
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of raving. Okay. Um, that's what you, do you know? Do you rave? Have you, I haven't been.
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Oh, no. All right. And you said you're from Texas. Yeah. And you go to UCSB. Is that correct?
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Um, I actually transferred. So I go to the CC now. Oh, you, um, you, wait, hold on. You,
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you were going to UCSB? Yeah. And now I'm going to the CC. Why is that? Um, so recently, no,
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no. Okay. So recently my parents, um, completely stopped financially supporting me. So now I have
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to like completely fund my own expenses. Okay. Um, yeah. So they kicked me out over the summer
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and yeah. Over the summer. Yeah. So, uh, what did something happen? Well, they're like, they've
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always been super strict. Um, it was like something, it was so stupid. It was like over first it was
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over dishes and then they found out I got a B in a class and they were like, no, you need to come
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home and go to school in Texas. And I was like, no, I'm not doing that. So yeah. So yeah. So now
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I'm funding myself completely. Wow. Yeah. You got a, you got a B. Yeah. It was a B plus or B minus
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or just a B? It was just a B right in the middle. What class was it? Um, it was biology, plant bio.
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Yeah. Plant biology. Yeah. I can't fuck up and plant biology. Yeah. It was pretty hard.
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So they get your report card or whatever. Yeah. They saw, they were like, let me see your grades
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and, oh, and they also saw my Instagram. They were like, no. Ah, okay. Now we're getting more
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details. Okay. What was on your Instagram? You've, you've seen my Instagram. It's normal.
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They're just like super strict. Well, your parents are, uh, are you, uh, orthodox Christian or what?
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Yeah. I'm orthodox. And you're, I'm trying to remember it's, uh, Ethiopian. Yeah. I'm
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Ethiopian. You're Ethiopian. Ethiopian Eritrean. Or so is there a subterm for that kind of orthodox
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Christianity? Um, yeah, it's Ethiopian Orthodox church. Orthodox. Yeah. Okay. So they're very
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strict and conservative. Yeah. Very. And then they see you in number one party school. Titties out.
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Okay. It was a bikini. They saw your Instagram, huh? They're just bikinis. And they were like,
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but they were not approving of that because they're conservative. That, yeah, that was a huge
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part. So do you think it was more so that versus the B and? Um, no, they asked for that first and
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then they were like, okay, let's see your grades. And obviously they expect like straight A's. So
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they saw that I got a B and they were like, no, we're not financially funding your whole life for
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you to like, just go out and like, you know, just be crazy. Damn. Okay. So you downgraded,
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I mean, Santa Barbara city college is nice. I'm okay. I'm thinking of transferring though to UCLA.
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Hopefully. Okay. So, I mean, you know, it's not the worst plan though. I mean, you save a bit of
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money going to the city college, you know, cause the university is more expensive. It was the
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bikini photos, wasn't it? Oh my gosh, Brian. They just couldn't, you know, your parents were,
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you know, I don't know. Yeah. Not, not cool with it. Okay. Anything else? No, that's all. So
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the dishes, the B and Instagram photos. Yeah. All right. All right. I feel like there's something
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else. Okay. Well, no, but no. Okay. What about you? Um, my name is Bailey Jane. I am 25, almost 26.
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And I'm an exotic dancer, entrepreneur, engineer, singer, rapper. And what else was I going to say?
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Okay. That's it for now. You're a rapper. Yes. Was she a rap? Were you a rapper last time you were
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on the show? No, but all right, let's hear something. Go ahead. You did ask me, you ask me every
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time, but you never want to like drop a beat or do a beat. Um, no, I can't do it on a beat box.
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Nick, go full screen on OBS. Although they did for, yeah. Yeah. I'm like B-Rabbit.
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Look, if, if M-M was here, he wouldn't need a beat. He would just acapella that shit. Oh yeah.
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You want me to roast you? In a rap? Yeah. I think you should roast yourself. Do it. No. Okay.
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Maybe later. Oh, maybe later. I'm a little too nervous right now to do it. Every time. Every
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time. Cause I need a shot. I need a shot. There's so many A&R people watching the stream
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right now and all these girls who come on and sing and never do. They just totally fumbling
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their chance to be discovered. You know, we got, I'm not fumbling. I'm already good. Don't
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worry. Don't worry about me. You're good on your rap career? Yeah. Been hanging out with
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some big rappers. Hold on. Hanging out with a rapper. But they're inspiring me and they're
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making me better. You hang around people you want to be like. So I've been hanging around
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Busta Rhymes and like Flo Rida. Flo Rida. Flo Rida. And I'm getting better. And I'm getting
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better at like. When's the last time you kicked it with Flo Rida? Let's not talk about that
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actually. Oh. I want to know. He blocked me. Why did he block you? Oh no. He didn't give me
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any reason. I think I was like blowing his mind too much and he's like, what? Who the
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fuck is this girl? Yeah. Like, and he probably was a little scared of me too, I think. He
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what? A little scared of me, blowing his mind and also I think I confused him a little
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bit. But it's okay. How did you confuse him? Yeah. How did you confuse him? I wasn't trying
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to bring this up. I don't even know why I did this. Next question. Next question. I don't
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know. He didn't tell me anything. He just, yeah. He just blocked me. Magical things
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happen. Really, it was beautiful. So I don't know why he blocked me, but it's okay. One
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day he probably will regret it. Did you like hook up with him or? No, but I thought he
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wanted to and it got strange. Did you hook up with Busta? No, there's a lot of stuff going
00:23:51.620
on, but I can't speak about any of this. Love stuff going on? No, we're just, it's just
00:23:55.200
a work thing, you know, just friends. So critically acclaimed rap artists, Flo Rida
00:24:03.040
and Busta Rhymes are, are, are working with you? No, I said, you said a lot of things
00:24:11.040
were hanging out. I said, I'm hanging around them and it's helping me get better at fast
00:24:14.900
rapping and rapping just by being around them. It's so crazy. Like watching them record.
00:24:18.880
If Flo Rida was here, he would be acapella. He would be dropping an acapella. No, he wouldn't.
00:24:23.040
No, he wouldn't. No, he wouldn't. No beat needed. No, he wouldn't. Obviously he hasn't
00:24:25.760
rubbed off on you too much. I don't even think he freestyles, but actually Busta does. Busta
00:24:29.200
used to with Jay-Z and everybody. And so he actually probably could. Wait, Busta Rhymes.
00:24:34.160
Is that the guy? He just got a star in the Walk of Fame. Break your neck? And he was just
00:24:38.480
in a new movie. Busta Rhymes? No, he was just in Naked Gun and he just got a star in the Walk
00:24:42.840
of Fame. What's his song? Um. And then you also. Can you start rapping it? And then you dated
00:24:48.880
Drake or something? No. Why did you have to say it like that? No. Okay. You fucked Drake.
00:24:54.160
I don't know. How would you prefer I say it? No. We're, okay. We're twin flames, but we don't
00:24:57.920
have to be together because that's something that it's like true for twin flames. Cause
00:25:02.360
if one of them does the work and the other one doesn't, the one that does the work, it's
00:25:06.200
up to them if they want to like be in a partnership and I don't want to be with him. So, but that
00:25:11.140
was kind of harsh, but that's only because I'm doing the work to like be my best self
00:25:15.060
and he isn't despite what it looks like. Cause it looks like he's like doing all this work
00:25:19.680
on himself, but he is physically doing all this work. Like he stays busy. He has a lot
00:25:23.780
of money. He's super, he works all the time. He works too much though. Actually. Wait,
00:25:27.940
did you actually fuck Drake? No, I didn't. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. No, I don't know why Brian
00:25:33.220
said that. He just trying to. No, I asked if you were dating Drake. No, I haven't even went
00:25:37.240
on a date with him. We've hung out a lot and I know his friends hung out a lot like a handful
00:25:42.540
of times, but a handful of times in the spiritual, in the dream world a lot and in the dream world
00:25:48.440
physically like three, four times, but really count the dream world. We didn't really like
00:25:52.560
hang out. I fucked a bunch of supermodels in the dream world. Doesn't mean I hung out with
00:25:56.260
them. No, but we didn't like really, I don't, I don't have sex dreams by the way. It's mostly
00:25:59.360
just me. He's scared of me. He's scared of me right now. So let's be honest. Drake is scared
00:26:04.660
of you. He couldn't even say like, I had to speak to him first because he was so scared,
00:26:10.160
but he came up to me, made sure everybody left the dance floor, came up to me and didn't say
00:26:15.280
anything. I actually had to talk to him first. Wow. I totally believe everything you've just
00:26:21.800
said. Well, I hope you do because it's true. Yeah. Do you have receipts? Do you have like
00:26:28.260
a photo, like a selfie with him? I don't know. Do you have a selfie with him? Wait, at this
00:26:33.200
party? Wait, do you have a selfie with him? Hell no. Do you have a selfie with any of these
00:26:38.320
famous people? No matter who I'm, yes, no, because I don't care about it. And most of them,
00:26:43.240
I just, I don't know if, if they wanted a picture with me, I would take one, but I'm
00:26:48.200
not going to go out of my way to ask them because I'm also famous. So I don't really, I'm not
00:26:52.060
a picture with you or anybody. I miss twin flame. She knows what she, I know who I am. Famous
00:26:59.040
people aren't like walking up to random people in the street being like, can I take a photo
00:27:03.380
with you person? I don't know. He does know me. Yeah. But you're like, you're like a normie
00:27:08.840
civilian to him. No, he knows exactly who I am. So that's why he was so nervous to talk
00:27:14.040
to me. I wonder if you're in like, you're mixed up in like a romance scam where some
00:27:17.600
dudes pretending to be Drake. No, but actually no, it's crazy. I dated one, a doppelganger
00:27:22.460
of hit like that looked just like him, which is actually insane. I don't know why I did
00:27:27.020
that. That was, it ended up being a karmic, but I literally, he lived closest to me at the
00:27:33.080
time. And I'm like, this is actually really insane. Cause he looks more like Drake than all
00:27:36.780
the other doppelgangers that you see online. It was really intense actually. Yeah. He's
00:27:43.280
cancer though. Who does? He was a cancer and he's a lifeguard. He was like Ken, he was a
00:27:48.520
lifeguard. And I was like, Oh, wow. That's a lot. Uh, thank you for all that. Also, we're
00:27:58.260
going to get into your past life stuff too. No. Um, didn't you, okay. So really quick recap
00:28:04.780
in past lives, either you've dated people in your past lives who were like dictators
00:28:12.840
and shit, but you've also dated men who in their past life was, so didn't somebody in
00:28:18.300
their past, what was the Abraham Lincoln thing? And it's funny cause there was a girl
00:28:22.100
that's actually related to him that was on the show last time, if you remember. And
00:28:25.960
like me and her kind of became friends after this, but, um, yeah. So Abraham Lincoln
00:28:30.380
reincarnated and so did Teddy Roosevelt. And I met them both in this life, help them find
00:28:37.200
out that that's who they were. And now they tell everybody cause they see it now too. And
00:28:42.020
they both wanted to date me and they both knew each other, but they didn't know that they
00:28:46.740
were Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt until like I pieced it all together. And they have
00:28:51.020
a mutual friend. They're main, like they're both of their main friends. I'm messing this up.
00:28:56.900
I'm sorry. I'm like, like they had the same mutual friend and they worked at the same
00:29:00.800
jobs and they still had no idea who they were until recently, but they worked together for
00:29:05.820
like 30 years and they didn't know that they're Abraham Lincoln and Teddy. So you met two different
00:29:09.900
guys and in their past lives, one of them was Abraham Lincoln and the other Teddy Roosevelt.
00:29:16.940
A hundred percent. And have you met any other heads of state? I know, but I know that, um,
00:29:21.820
Andrew Jackson was Epstein, but we can't talk about that, but too much, but they're all like
00:29:28.960
back. Almost all the presidents are back. I wonder if I'm going to find more. How do you know? How do
00:29:32.240
you know that Jeffrey was Andrew Jackson? Well, look at how he looks. He's almost the same. He
00:29:38.900
is pretty. Do you have to meet the person to not him in this case? Cause it was like pretty easy,
00:29:44.200
but usually I have to meet them in person. And then I figured, no, I didn't meet him. Thank
00:29:48.860
God. So how do you know who he was in his past life? Cause you could tell it's so easy, but
00:29:53.600
it's like a feeling, it's a feeling and then it's his looks and then it's his authority that
00:29:59.660
he also had in this life. And then it's just intuition. It's the same, but the way that I
00:30:04.600
found out about Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt, this was way more magical. It was way more
00:30:08.680
magical, but Andrew, I think it's him. I think it's him. Oh, sorry.
00:30:13.840
I think it's him. Epstein. I'm not a hundred percent. Marcus, Marcus Aurelius or who was
00:30:19.920
it? You dated a Caesar, Julius Caesar. Oh yeah. Then I found Caesar, uh, well, Emperor
00:30:25.880
Augustus and I actually dated him, but I found out that was his past life. So actually a lot
00:30:30.100
of people are reincarnated and either they won't find out until they die or someone like me could
00:30:35.920
possibly see that you were someone to like help you. And there's actually psychics you could
00:30:40.660
go to that will tell you these things that are specialized in this. I'm not, but I'm starting
00:30:45.540
to be at this point. Who was the guy? You met a guy who in, in his past life was Julius Caesar.
00:30:50.140
Emperor Augustus. So not Julius Caesar. That's his dad, right? That's his dad. He's little Caesar
00:30:55.600
pizza pizza. I dated little, little Caesar. Okay. You dated. Okay. Yeah. Who's the, so, okay.
00:31:06.360
Who's the guy who you hooked up with who was the most notable person in a past life?
00:31:14.640
Probably him. Probably. Oh, you hooked up with the, the Caesar. Emperor Augustus because he was like
00:31:18.980
the richest. He was the longest ruling, the one of the most popular. Yeah. That's why I dated him. He
00:31:25.760
was like my longest relationship too, I think. Would he do Roman salutes like during sex or? No,
00:31:32.480
but it was, it's so crazy because we went to a museum and he didn't say he liked any statue except
00:31:38.440
for the bust of Emperor Augustus. But at the time he didn't physically know that it was him. And he,
00:31:45.460
his soul told me right away, like, find out who I am. I'm not going to tell you. Have you met Jesus?
00:31:50.860
Not in this life. No. Wait, spiritually. He's not here. Physically. It's just Augustus.
00:31:57.540
Oh, you mean his dad. Oh, actually. No, I didn't. But you know, it's crazy. Wait, wait,
00:32:02.700
let me finish. Oh, go ahead. Good. So his wife, Emperor Augustus, his wife and his past life
00:32:10.140
poisoned him. And that's how he actually died. It's a speculation, but it does actually really
00:32:14.500
happen. And she also reincarnated. Wait, it gets even more magical. She reincarnated and it's Dua Lipa.
00:32:22.320
Who are you? Who were you in the past life? Anyone famous? Yes, but I don't think I was here
00:32:31.680
physically. And if I was, it doesn't matter. If I was here. I don't know. Were you like
00:32:38.620
a famous queen or something? Yes, I'm someone famous, but I can't say. Why? Because that's a story for
00:32:45.020
another time. Maybe next episode. Just say who it is. No, that's next episode. Come on. I have so
00:32:52.980
much other things to say in this one. But yes, I was someone well known. That's why I ended up being
00:32:58.100
with a lot of these people in these positions, because I can handle being with them, I guess,
00:33:02.020
more than other people. Yeah. Thank you for sharing that insightful
00:33:10.380
passage of information. What about you? Hey, what's up? I'm Kati. And before that,
00:33:17.600
girl, where are you getting your shrooms? Right? Anyways. Okay. So, yeah. So, I'm Kati. I'm 27
00:33:25.680
years old and I am a TikTok live stream girly. So, you see me selling like random shit on TikTok.
00:33:32.900
Um, and I am going to school right now, um, for acting and stuff like that, but I'm also taking
00:33:40.640
like random classes. I went to school before, but then I just decided, you know, why not go to school
00:33:45.820
again and just take some classes, learn something new and different. And other than that, I'm from
00:33:53.460
California. I moved around a lot, um, military brat. So, you know, was everywhere, but now, you know,
00:34:00.960
just here. Did you go to college or university? Uh, just college, community college. I don't
00:34:06.980
believe in university. You have your, uh, associate's degree then? Yes. In what? In liberal arts and
00:34:14.600
humanities. Okay. Got it. All right. What about you? My name's Erica. I am 24 and I'm from Oregon and
00:34:22.600
I'm currently a caregiver. All right. And, uh, you said, okay, you're from Oregon education,
00:34:30.320
uh, high school, high school. Got it. Okay. All right. That's everybody's intro. We're going to
00:34:37.000
go around the table in just a moment, get everybody's relationship status. But first we have
00:34:42.960
some messages coming through pasty George donated $200. Yeah. Six. What medications are you
00:34:51.080
currently on? Sativa to make myself, uh, high all the time to keep them off my mind. I'm just kidding.
00:34:59.640
Do you have any, have you been diagnosed with anything? I have autism, but low key autism and
00:35:05.400
ADD and yeah. Good times. Good times. Oh, we got it. Superpowers. Got an old friend here coming
00:35:18.120
through in just a moment. One sec here. Got grid one. Thank you. Grid one. Good to see you in the
00:35:24.120
chat, man. You're a fucking legend. Appreciate it. Grid one motorsports donated $200 and one cent.
00:35:33.760
Bruh. I dropped by to say, what's up? Brickson and stumble right into bat shit. Crazy chick.
00:35:39.720
I will be out in the area for next month. If I get a chance, I can maybe drop by.
00:35:45.540
Yeah. Great show. Yeah. Good one. Thank you, man. Do you want to respond to grid one? He said
00:35:50.100
you're bat shit crazy. Yeah, that's true. I am crazy. Well, she's self-aware, I guess. Thank you.
00:35:59.360
Grid one. Appreciate it. Stay tuned. Grid one. We got a good show. Be sure to stay
00:36:03.680
tuned. Okay. Cha says, Brian, chair one was once institutionalized, which is fair. She probably
00:36:13.020
needed it. Chair six needs to be an institution right this second. I applaud your monthly RTAR
00:36:19.560
charity streams though. Thank you, Cha. I appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. I'm too real for you. That's
00:36:26.360
why you want me to be in there because you don't want me to change the world. So, but it's already
00:36:30.380
happening no matter what. She's changing the world one strip dance at a time. One. Oh.
00:36:36.260
Strip. It's because you. Yeah. That's one way to spread love. Yeah. And I sing by singing,
00:36:43.040
taking all the souls back. You didn't, you didn't sing right now. Yeah. Rude. Got Pasty George
00:36:49.440
once again. Pasty George donated $200. Hey, Brian, in a past life, you were once an indigenous
00:36:56.560
person, but decided to be white this time around because you got bored, LOL. Why did they
00:37:02.980
work? This is true. In my past life, I was a, I was Chumash local, local tribe here in
00:37:09.400
San Barbara. I was Chumash past life. Before that I was, I was actually, it was more so a Latin
00:37:17.020
America. I was Aztec before that I was Inca or wait, you may actually be the fuck.
00:37:27.820
Oh, wait. No, someone else said that. Remember? No. Someone said that you're Hitler the last
00:37:39.800
time Bailey was on the show. I don't remember if it was Bailey. Yeah. I told you, but no,
00:37:42.780
it wasn't me that said it. Someone just brought it up. I'm like, maybe you were. Wow. That
00:37:48.800
is, that is interesting. That is, that's, that's an interesting. By the way, Hitler wasn't
00:37:57.120
as bad as probably people think, but he was bad. Don't worry, but.
00:38:03.800
Okay. Well, we're not going to go down that rabbit hole. Yeah. But, uh, what is your current
00:38:10.820
relationship status? How long have you been single if you're single and what's the longest
00:38:15.740
relationship you've been in? Um, currently I'm like not dating the person I'm seeing yet
00:38:23.020
because we just kind of started seeing each other recently, but I'm like exclusively seeing
00:38:29.020
someone. I wouldn't call it a situationship. So there's that. So you're not, you're not
00:38:33.840
single. No. Okay. So you're, but it's not a relationship. Like on all technicality. How
00:38:40.380
long have you been seeing the guy? Um, like seriously, like give or take like a month now.
00:38:46.160
How long have you known him? Uh, like a couple months, like half a year.
00:38:51.700
What's that on your neck? Is that from him? No. Okay. Uh, I'm just going to say dating,
00:38:57.600
I guess two months or whatever. Is it exclusive? Are you guys? Yeah. Yes. So it's monogamous.
00:39:06.160
Yes. Okay. Longest relationship? Um, it was on and off for a couple of years. It was like my
00:39:12.040
first love. Um, I don't know. It was literally just on and off for a couple of years. And then
00:39:17.900
like, while he's in prison. Yeah. That, yeah. Forever for, for doing like forever murder.
00:39:27.320
Oh yeah. That happened while I was in my program. Like, I guess like six months in he got like
00:39:31.760
locked up. And so like when I went on my home visit, my friend was like, Oh yeah, he's, he's,
00:39:35.780
uh, you wrote three felony charges awaiting trial. Yeah. So he's been like awaiting trial for
00:39:42.000
like two years now or something. And like. He murdered one person? Dude. Okay. I don't
00:39:47.740
even like, right. I don't know. I don't know. I wasn't, I was, I was, I was. What are his
00:39:54.140
charges? Um, it's, it's felony murder and, uh, smiling. No, this is okay. This is like
00:40:03.960
how I respond when I'm uncomfortable because it's like, were you, what was he doing? Were
00:40:08.440
you involved? No, no. Okay. So here's my thing is it's just really unfortunate because it's
00:40:14.300
not just him that was charged with it. It was like him, his uncles, this other kid I
00:40:18.940
went to like middle school with, and then like two other kids. So that's what I'm saying
00:40:22.260
when I say, I don't know. Cause it's like six of them charged with like the same thing
00:40:25.640
or whatever. And this was two years ago. Yeah. Like I was in Utah. And so I come back
00:40:30.700
and like, my friends are like, Oh yeah, that guy, he's gone. I was like, okay, that's
00:40:36.080
cool. That's really awesome. Actually. You were dating him for like what? Two years or
00:40:40.480
something? Uh, we started seeing each other when I was like 14, turning 15. And then
00:40:45.220
we were, how old was he? He was like 16, 17. Okay. Yeah. Um, but we were on and off
00:40:51.560
anyway, we were on and off until I was like almost dating him. Was he, while you were dating
00:40:55.360
him, was he engaged in any other kind of criminal activity? Dude. So when we started dating,
00:40:59.280
he was sober and like fine. Uh, and then he met you. Damn. Wow. That's a huge indictment.
00:41:06.180
Yeah. He was sober and then he met this girl. Okay. And now he, it sounds like he's a drug
00:41:12.480
addict. How old was I? Can we blame this on me? And in prison for multiple felonies, murder.
00:41:19.560
Okay. So it started with the murder and then like his, like, wait, it started with the murder.
00:41:24.260
Yeah. Well, and then his, while he's in there and like started moving stuff, I guess. Cause
00:41:27.980
when I went to check his charges, like, uh, like half a year ago or something, he had
00:41:32.360
two more. Oh, so now he has three felonies. Yeah. He's never getting out. Yeah. Why would
00:41:38.180
you do that? Cause he didn't even like, he hasn't been convicted of murder yet. So like
00:41:42.080
maybe he could have gotten off, but now he has two other felonies in there. So he's just
00:41:45.560
like done. Okay. He got charged while he was in prison or jail. Yeah. For drugs. For like
00:41:51.760
moving stuff. Yeah. It said like possession. Have you visited him in jail? No, I cut contact.
00:41:57.140
Like, uh, do you know any details about what happened? Um, I have like a, like a friend who
00:42:05.240
talks to like one of the guys who was also charged, like, cause we all, it was a small
00:42:10.880
like area we grew up in. We all like knew him. In Coachella? Yeah. Yeah. Um, I mean, I don't
00:42:16.520
know. I haven't heard anything or like checked. I mean, really other than the
00:42:19.960
felonies, right. That he got added. Was more than one person murdered? No, it was
00:42:25.200
just one person. One person murdered. Yeah. And then it was like, I don't know, his
00:42:29.780
like, like family like was there and then they got caught up and then they like
00:42:35.120
snitched him out, I guess. And then he got caught up like a week later. Was this
00:42:38.300
gang? And then they all started dropping like flies. Was he in a gang? No. Not gang
00:42:41.780
related? No. No. There's just like really bad, like gun violence where I'm from. Like
00:42:45.900
bad. In Coachella? Yeah. Isn't it like a nice place? See, that's, I feel like a lot
00:42:51.260
of people think that until you like live like out there. Live. Yeah. Like actually
00:42:55.500
like live out there. Cause it's not like really a vacation spot. Like, I don't know
00:42:59.220
if you've ever been to like Coachella Fest and you accidentally get stuck out there,
00:43:02.600
like anywhere out there. It's really not great. Good times. Yeah. Good times. Yeah.
00:43:08.080
All right. Um, but anyways, that's, that was your longest relationship. And, uh, you
00:43:15.420
said you have a lot more lore, but we'll come back to that. What about you? Uh, I'm
00:43:20.720
single. I've been single forever. Uh, just started dating after I moved here almost like
00:43:26.400
two years ago and I heavily dated. Like I, I exploring stage kind of. When you say you've
00:43:34.100
been single forever, what do you mean? Like I never, uh, be in any relationships. You've
00:43:39.260
never been in a relationship? Never. I'm 25. Um, you have you, did you date in China? Never
00:43:49.020
because my family was very strict, strict, strict. I have curfew and I didn't have any, like
00:43:56.240
I didn't have that much social media. Is your family in the government? They are not, but
00:44:04.320
they're in a national corporate, like the business, business people. Okay. Uh, did you
00:44:12.720
date in Korea at all? I wouldn't say dating, but what would you say? It wasn't a relationship,
00:44:19.680
but I was using Tinder, using Tinder. Yeah. That was the first time I was exposed to Tinder
00:44:25.640
because in China, I don't know, not many use Tinder where it was banned. I forgot. Okay.
00:44:32.780
And then nothing here. You've been here for two and a half years. Anything? Yeah. Heavily
00:44:39.740
dated, but heavily dated, dated, dated, but no boyfriend. Yeah. Okay. Um, I'll come back
00:44:46.860
to some of that, but in your notes, you say you were, uh, well, I'll come back to it. What
00:44:55.180
about you? Um, I've been single for about two weeks, uh, since yesterday and not kind of not
00:45:05.120
seen anyone seriously. Okay. Um, and my longest relationship, um, in my opinion would be two
00:45:12.280
years. Um, technically in your opinion, it's confusing. Would the guy disagree? Um, I think,
00:45:20.180
yeah, he would disagree, but I'm just, I, we see time differently. So it's like, we dated for a year
00:45:26.560
and then broke up for eight months and then dated for another year and then broke up two weeks ago.
00:45:31.600
So I kind of just added up the time from there. I see. Okay. Who broke up with who?
00:45:37.580
It was a very mutual decision since February. Um, and it was a good breakup. It only took about 15
00:45:44.120
minutes. Um, good, good breakup. Yeah. Short, um, to the point. Yeah. He only cried until I just
00:45:50.500
literally moved to Santa Barbara. He cried. He cried. I did cry, but not when we were breaking up.
00:45:56.800
It was when his mom started crying to me. The mom was there at the breakup. Yeah. She was like outside
00:46:02.880
the room. And so when I was like walking out, she started crying and I, yeah, then I just started
00:46:07.560
crying from there. But other, other than that, it was a good breakup. Um, we still, still kept in
00:46:13.200
contact on messages, but I recently blocked in cause I don't think it was good for us to keep
00:46:17.680
contact again. Um, but yeah, I see. And you said that you're sort of single. I sensed a little bit
00:46:28.840
of like, uh, maybe there's somebody in the picture. Um, I mean, I feel guilty for not guilty, but I feel
00:46:36.200
weird saying it because, uh, the first time me and my ex broke up for those eight months, I was just
00:46:42.100
going around with people. Um, when you say going around with people, what do you mean?
00:46:47.620
I mean, I mean like, like hooking up, just having fun. Yeah. Okay. Hooking up, having fun. Um,
00:46:52.940
I do and don't regret them, but like when we got and me and my ex got back together, like it felt
00:46:58.460
different cause I was older, probably more mature. And since now, since we broken up, um, I was sad for
00:47:06.480
like the first day, but I wasn't crying. I, you know, downloaded Tinder for a bit and then deleted
00:47:12.660
it a couple of days ago. But on Tinder, I met a guy for the second time and, um, went to his house
00:47:19.160
and we've only been hanging out for the last two weekends, but he's, he's done everything that I
00:47:27.240
wish my ex would have done. Which is what? Like maybe give me flowers, give me compliments a lot.
00:47:34.700
Oh, he got you flowers. Yeah. Like two times or just once? Uh, just once the first time. And then
00:47:40.400
the second time it was just, you know, the first time, that was the first time you met him. Yeah.
00:47:45.700
Okay. Got you flowers. Yeah. Did you, uh, what was it like you went over to his house on the first
00:47:51.480
time? Yeah. I went to his house on the first time cause I thought it was just going to be a hookup.
00:47:55.780
Um, and did not turn out that way. And so, yeah, now we're, I guess, kind of talking. Yeah.
00:48:03.760
Nice. Um, so, and that was what, a week ago? Like two weeks ago. Question. How soon after
00:48:12.280
the breakup conversation did you meet this new guy? Um, it was the day of our breakup. Um,
00:48:21.520
I wait, like the same day. Yeah. So the same day. Sorry. Uh, I don't know what's a Jake or
00:48:30.340
whatever, you know, sorry, uh, can't do it. Um, then you drove over right after. So it was like,
00:48:39.700
um, I moved to Santa Barbara maybe like two and a half weeks ago and I moved here the same day,
00:48:44.880
me and my ex broke up. And then the same day I downloaded Tinder. And then I think the next day
00:48:50.320
I went to the guy's house just because, um, I was just kind of sad for the first day. And I,
00:48:56.420
um, needed a warm body. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Okay. And cool. Um, I just thought it was going to be
00:49:05.140
hookup and that's it. So I wasn't like prepared for anything. So how did, how did the, that first
00:49:10.560
encounter go? Like you went over like expecting it to be like a fuck boy, but then here he's got you
00:49:17.840
flowers and stuff. It was pretty alarming. We're still a fuck boy, but also gave you flowers.
00:49:22.160
Maybe. Um, I mean, it was pretty alarming cause I didn't expect that. Um, that's never happened
00:49:27.840
before. Did you appreciate it or were you like too much? Both because I don't know when, like if
00:49:35.160
it's flowers for a special occasion, I get that. Um, but you don't know the guy usually no, I mean
00:49:40.680
actually, yeah, we've been hanging out actually a lot and talking on the phone, but the first time,
00:49:46.140
yeah, the first time you didn't know this guy, right? So it's like, no. And usually I never receive
00:49:50.760
flowers like on a first date or even a first hookup. So I was just like, Oh, okay. Okay.
00:49:55.920
And then as I got to know him, it was like six hours of just talking and it was pretty weird to
00:50:01.800
me cause that's never happened in a hookup before to me. And, um, so you guys, you go over, he gives
00:50:08.860
you flowers and you talk for six hours and then you hook up after the six hours of talking. Okay.
00:50:15.560
Got it. Kind of just, it kind of just felt like a date, but how do you said there were like other
00:50:20.880
hookups you've had in the past? How have those typically gone different for you? Um, it's
00:50:27.280
usually like straight off the bat, like saying, hi, how are you? And then immediately going into
00:50:31.160
flirting and then, you know, you get more comfortable and then it just happens. And then
00:50:34.380
after that, I just kind of leave and that's it. So you'll go to the guy's house. Like how soon
00:50:40.360
typically like, okay, you walk through the door and is it like immediately, is there
00:50:46.080
like 15 minutes of talk? It's more like 15 minutes. Yeah. 15 minutes and then they just
00:50:51.400
go for it. Yeah. Okay. What's the quickest ever? Quickest. Um, probably, I mean, it's probably
00:51:01.420
was around five minutes, five minutes front door straight to business. It was actually in
00:51:07.460
my car in a parking lot. Oh, it was in your car. Yeah. In the parking lot. Yeah. Of a
00:51:12.400
seven 11. Um, it was an ice cream store. Okay. That's better than seven 11 parking lot. Was
00:51:19.280
it a nice ice cream store? Yeah, I guess. Did you guys have ice cream or not really? Um,
00:51:23.960
he skipped the ice cream. No, he left. And then I actually got the ice cream cause I was
00:51:27.760
feeling pretty hungry. Oh, he left. Yeah. After we were done, like it was, that's it. Like
00:51:31.980
what was the, how long were you guys kicking it? 20 minutes, 20 minutes showed, wait, showed
00:51:38.240
up and then he just dips. Yeah. And so were you like already in the back seat or how does
00:51:46.960
that go? Um, like I, I was in my driver's seat and then I kind of just went to the passenger
00:51:52.920
seat that had like, you can just put it down all the way. So wait, so, okay. So he pulls
00:51:59.700
up in his car or did you pick him up or? Um, no, I met at the parking lot that was near
00:52:05.960
my house and then he met me. He met you at the parking lot. Yeah. And then he parked
00:52:09.840
next to me. And then he goes into your car? Yeah. Cause my car is really, no, it's really
00:52:14.240
big. It's a, what kind of? Toyota Sequoia. Is that, that's a truck, right? Or wait, Sequoia?
00:52:19.900
Like a van. Or is that a? It's a van. It's a really big van. Oh, you have a van. A minivan.
00:52:24.600
Not a minivan. It's just the size of the van. Is it your car or your parents' car? It's, it
00:52:28.120
was my mom's old car and she gave it to me. Oh, she gave it to you. Okay. Uh, so then
00:52:32.820
did, did you get out and like meet outside of the cars or did you just stay in the car
00:52:36.880
the whole time? Uh, just staying in the car, side of the car the whole time. He just like
00:52:40.440
came into my passenger seat and then we just, he came into the passenger seat. Yes. And then
00:52:48.620
you went to the passenger seat. No, like we talked for like maybe two minutes. Two minutes.
00:52:53.060
Um, how does that go? Like, how does it go? Like, do you, does he make the first move?
00:53:00.040
Yeah. Usually that's what I almost never make the first move. So he's like, hi, I'm, I'm, uh,
00:53:06.000
Brad. Nice to meet you. And he just like goes for it. Um, yeah, basically. Okay. Yeah.
00:53:15.560
Didn't last very long though. No, it didn't. I mean, to be fair, car sex is kind of
00:53:20.060
uncomfortable. It's a little, yeah. I mean, he wasn't like a big dude, so it wasn't like
00:53:25.100
uncomfortable in my car. He was like. A little taller than me and like build wise just normal.
00:53:37.780
was it, was it good? It was, um, a bit uncomfortable because actually that was the first time doing it
00:53:45.060
in my car. In your car. Yeah. Um, so it was a bit hard to maneuver, but other than that, it was,
00:53:51.160
it was okay. It wasn't the best, but it was okay. Okay. And you've, but you've, uh, sometimes you'll
00:53:56.300
go to the guy's place. Most of the time. Yeah. And usually the, it may be shocked you this most
00:54:04.040
recent guy because he talked to you for six hours beforehand, got your flowers. You've seen him again.
00:54:11.760
Uh, but I, can you go into detail on any of the other hookups you've had? Like that might've been
00:54:19.400
interesting or unique? Um, I mean, or is it pretty standard? Like you, it sounds like you just go to
00:54:26.040
their house and hook up pretty quickly. It's pretty like diff sometimes it's most of the time it's
00:54:31.240
different, um, with all guys because, um, I care a lot about people. So most of the time I'll try to
00:54:37.480
do more talking. Um, because I don't know. I just, I think it's just like talking to people
00:54:43.040
and then most of the time we'll stay friends and, um, do you, do any of them ever want to do like
00:54:48.920
round two or yeah, like friends with benefits. That's so you'll do that. So it's like just a
00:54:54.000
hookup, but then I'll keep talking to them and like, we'll keep texting, but not in like a talking
00:54:57.940
way. Like if we're in a friend's way. And so it then eventually just turns into friends with benefits.
00:55:01.800
Gotcha. Do you have a, you said that, okay, you were dating the guy for a year, then you guys were
00:55:07.100
on a break for eight months. Uh, during that eight month break, you, this is kind of when you're just
00:55:12.100
having some fun, uh, like hooking up with guys, keeping it, uh, casual. Did you have a roster of
00:55:18.460
guys? Cause I, you said that some of these guys you would continue seeing and friends with benefits.
00:55:24.600
Uh, I guess, did you have a roster then? Um, yeah, for a while it would like go up and down,
00:55:30.840
but then at one point, like they all came back at the same time, which all came back. It was like,
00:55:36.180
okay. Um, what was the biggest, the roster ever was? Uh, do I have to be honest? Like, yes,
00:55:46.060
no shame, no shame here. No shame. No, it's not that big. Um, like five or six, five or six on the
00:55:58.160
roster at the same time. Yeah. At the same time. Okay. And, um,
00:56:02.420
was there ever any that you were just like bad experience, only a one-time thing? Yeah.
00:56:10.580
Yeah. A couple of those or, um, like two or three, two or three. Okay. And did they,
00:56:15.920
did they want to still see you or were you, it was more so on your end? You're like, nah,
00:56:20.080
I'm not feeling it. Uh, yeah, it was more so on my end, but we still continued to be friends if,
00:56:24.920
uh, we were already friends with benefits. And most of these guys, you would meet them like on
00:56:28.600
Tinder or where were you? Um, actually, no, only one guy on Tinder. Um, well, two people now. Um,
00:56:35.580
most of them were coworkers or friends of friends. Okay. So. Gotcha. All right. Uh, so the,
00:56:43.560
the roster was at its biggest, you said five to six. Yeah. But then you said there was one moment,
00:56:49.220
one moment that will go down in history where they all just, they were just, I don't know.
00:56:54.960
They, they came back. They're like, damn, I need, I need more of you. That was, I think seven or eight,
00:57:02.140
but it wasn't like we were doing anything. It was my ex coming into my life again. Yeah. And, um,
00:57:09.760
one other person trying to have like a serious talking stage with me, but I just wasn't that
00:57:13.900
interested. Um, and then the other few were like, you know, friends with benefits still.
00:57:20.800
Gotcha. Okay. So like sometimes they'll disappear or I'll disappear and then just come back every
00:57:25.580
couple of weeks or something. And then, so the guy who you were seeing for two years collectively,
00:57:30.900
there was that break after about a year when you guys were together. Um, who, that first break,
00:57:36.940
who initiated it? It was confusing. Cause I did it first, got back with him. He did it
00:57:42.800
to me and then he was trying to get back with me for a week, but in my mindset, because he already
00:57:47.700
broke up with me, I, you know, don't want to get back with him. Um, and then something occurred and
00:57:53.880
then he like officially, officially was done with me and, and then I left. Yeah. Okay. For that, uh,
00:58:02.200
there's that initial breakup, I guess, where there's the break for the eight month period.
00:58:06.640
How soon into that break did you start doing some of the more hookup stuff?
00:58:12.020
Um, it's pretty embarrassing, but it was the same day we broke up the first time. Same day.
00:58:17.400
Yeah. And were these guys that you had like in the back pocket or you like break up and then you
00:58:23.640
meet them? The guy that I met the same day I hooked up with on the day of my first breakup was, um,
00:58:30.260
when me and my ex were still like, he was trying to still get back with me. I went to my friend's
00:58:34.320
house the night before and I greened out and there was this guy taking care of me and I really
00:58:39.140
appreciated that. And then, um, he asked me the next day if he wanted, if we could go thrifting
00:58:46.060
and then coincidentally the next day, you know, me and my ex were officially done and then we went
00:58:51.120
thrifting, went to this like hill spot and then it happened. Yeah. And what, was he one of the
00:58:58.580
friends with benefits guys that you saw for a little bit? Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. All right. And then,
00:59:04.820
so that was pretty quick after that breakup and then the most recent breakup, same guy
00:59:09.200
that happened two weeks ago to clarify, was it the next day or the same day that you got
00:59:16.000
on Tinder? Uh, and then met this current guy who you were seeing? The day of our breakup
00:59:20.860
was the same day I got Tinder, but it was the next day that I met the guy. Okay. So the
00:59:24.780
day after that's when you guys had hooked up and then you hooked up again. Do you like the
00:59:30.120
guy you think you're going to? Yeah. He's actually like probably the most respectful
00:59:34.560
guy I've ever met. Um, he just gives me way more confidence and reassurance and that any
00:59:41.680
guy has ever did. So what does he do? I mean, you said he got you flowers, but what else?
00:59:47.860
He, you know, buys me food. We go out. Um, I helped him decorate his room. Um, we went thrifting
00:59:54.400
a while and then, you know, we just actually like, we'd actually like go out and talk and
00:59:59.200
have fun like a normal relationship would be. So are you guys, well, okay. You've been single
01:00:05.780
for two weeks, but there's this one guy in the picture, uh, in this two week period, any
01:00:10.500
other guys in the picture? No, no other guys who haven't like gone out on a date or hook
01:00:15.240
up or anything. No, but where I live, like a few guys have hit on me, but, um, I didn't
01:00:21.380
really want to do that. Okay. And so what are you looking for right now? Are you thinking
01:00:26.420
maybe this guy, you could end up boyfriend, girlfriend, or are you trying to keep things
01:00:30.360
a little more casual? The guy I'm not sure with, because again, I've been single for two
01:00:36.440
weeks and so I feel kind of guilty moving on too fast. But again, I don't feel like super
01:00:42.400
sad about the breakup. Um, even though I was sad for a little bit, like, you know, I don't
01:00:47.920
know. I expected it to happen since February and, um, but I don't know. Uh, we have talked
01:00:54.280
about that. We'll, we just said, we'll see where it goes. Got it. Okay. What about you?
01:01:00.660
Um, I am currently single. Um, my longest relationship was probably two, almost three
01:01:08.580
years. Um, that was like during COVID. So I was like maybe turn, I was 19 turning 20 at
01:01:17.420
the time. Um, and then I had another relationship after, um, but then that one ended, I believe
01:01:27.560
beginning of March of this year. Got it. And so you've been single for two years you said
01:01:33.880
or? I, I was, well, I'm, I'm, I'm, I've been single officially for like six, seven months now.
01:01:45.400
Got it. Okay. Uh-huh. All right. Uh, what about you? Oh, um, I'm currently single right now. Um,
01:01:54.980
my longest relationship has been for about a year. Um, how long you've been single for?
01:02:00.620
So, uh, I kind of had a thing over the summer for like a month at the start of the summer.
01:02:07.960
Mm-hmm. Um, but I had to dump him low key. Why is that? So I feel like he just wasn't
01:02:16.580
stepping up enough, like financially wise. So I had to like, just, I couldn't. Yeah.
01:02:23.760
And so you were seeing him for how long? Just a month.
01:02:26.440
And so this was maybe what, two months ago that you, okay. So for two months, have you been dating
01:02:33.580
anybody else? No, I have not. Any other situations prior to him? Um, dates. I've gone on dates,
01:02:42.800
but I wasn't really interested in a lot of them. So you'd go on one date. That would be it. Um,
01:02:49.000
yeah. Okay. This guy you were seeing in the summer for one month, you said that
01:02:53.360
he wasn't stepping up financially. How old was he? Um, so he was 23.
01:03:02.040
23. Okay. And you're 18. Yeah. Uh, when you say he wasn't stepping up financially, what do you mean?
01:03:06.880
So I felt like, I don't know, previously my relationships, like they just stepped up more
01:03:12.680
financially. Um, especially since he's like 23, I expected him to like, you know, just buy me more
01:03:19.860
stuff, you know? Buy me more stuff. Well, um, would he pay for dates? Of course. Oh, of course. Okay. So
01:03:26.080
he would pay for dates. Yeah. Um, but you guys were only together for a month. So what were your
01:03:31.320
expectations in terms of what he should have been buying you? So like, I sent him a picture of the
01:03:40.180
Chanel bag that I wanted and he didn't like buy me it. So I just thought you're so full of shit.
01:03:47.780
You're so full of shit. Is this true? Yes. I don't, I don't know. I feel like you're just doing a bit,
01:03:55.420
but, um, no, like I, I feel like if a girl is sending you something like, oh, this is, this bag
01:04:02.600
is so cute. Like, why is it not at the front of my doorstep the next day? How long were you dating
01:04:08.820
again? You're so full shipper. I know you're trolling. I know you're trolling. It's like a Chanel bag. It's like
01:04:12.940
pretty expensive. No, no, it wasn't. It was like, probably, it was like 2000. He's 23, bro. Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:22.060
20, what, what did he do for work? What did he do for work? Um, he was like, it was something with
01:04:27.400
business. I don't know. Something with business. I don't know what he does. He does like, so
01:04:31.700
literally anything. I don't know. Something with business. I didn't really ask. He's either janitor
01:04:37.940
of a business or the CEO of a business. Uh, you don't, you didn't ask him the guy you did for a
01:04:43.060
month. You didn't know what he did for work. No, but you wanted him to buy you a $2,000. Yeah.
01:04:48.380
I feel like that's normal. That's expected. Besides the bag, what else should he have done?
01:04:52.960
Um, I mean, I would say he did a decent amount. I think just like the financial part, I feel
01:05:00.360
like. How much do you think he spent on you total? Total? Yeah. Um, I don't know. We went
01:05:07.240
on a, you know, went on a date like at least once a week. So maybe like 200 per date and
01:05:14.140
then. Yeah. Did you guys hook up? No. No? No. Is he also Ethiopian? No.
01:05:21.440
Orthodox Christian? No. He was white. I don't know what kind. Just white? Yeah. Okay.
01:05:28.800
Um, and you're, uh, okay. Um, what did the girls think on the panel? Like 23 year old
01:05:37.080
guy talking, dating this girl for a month. Were you guys like, should he be paying $2,000
01:05:43.140
for a bag? Yes. Labeled boyfriend, girlfriend? Mm-hmm. After a month? Yeah. After a week,
01:05:49.220
like, I'll know if I want to date you or not. Like, I'm not waiting a whole month. Like,
01:05:55.040
I'm not going to be in a talking stage for like three, four weeks. And then like, we've
01:06:00.440
already done all the boyfriend, girlfriend stuff. In a week? Early. Yeah. Well, I mean,
01:06:06.420
if you have a vibe with him, like, I understand. Like, there's like chemistry, you know? Cause
01:06:10.400
I've had times where I'm like, oh, I like, you know, I like him, you know? Yeah. Low key.
01:06:15.040
Obviously, like, if she wanted that, then it's okay to ask for it. Right? But, but there's
01:06:21.820
a difference from expecting him because now you see where he's coming from and it's like,
01:06:27.800
okay, he's obviously not able to do that. If that's something that you want from someone,
01:06:33.080
then look for someone that actually, you know, can do that for you. I mean, he would spend a lot
01:06:36.680
of his money on like sports betting and all of that. So if you can put your money.
01:06:43.460
Hold on. Sorry. Could you repeat the thing you said about how it's okay for her to ask for
01:06:48.740
a $2,000 bag? I mean, yeah, I, I think it's okay. Have you, have you done that? Have you
01:06:54.700
asked a guy? No, I, I haven't. You know what? Um, I've asked for things, but I don't think
01:07:00.460
I've asked for like a $2,000 bag, like straight up in like the first month. So that's why I
01:07:05.460
think, I think it's crazy that you did that, but I feel like if that's something you want
01:07:09.760
to, you like, then why not? You know? And then, you know, there's a guy out there that
01:07:14.040
will actually give it to you if he really likes you. I know, right? I've had situations
01:07:17.740
where they like, you know, they will give me a, because they really love me. I'd like
01:07:22.560
him to have like Wingstop. If you find Drake, he might give you one. There you go. You sent
01:07:27.460
him the text. And if they really like you. Yeah. He gives them right away. Yo, get her
01:07:31.100
phone. I don't believe this shit. Show me the text message. Oh, blocked, removed, everything.
01:07:36.540
Oh, she deleted the message. My parents looked through my phone. Like I cannot have anything
01:07:41.220
inappropriate in there. And I was at home at the time. Tell us what you wrote in the
01:07:45.300
message. So I was like, first I screenshotted the Chanel bag online and I sent him. I was
01:07:52.240
like, oh my gosh, this bag is so cute. I didn't ask him to get me the bag or anything, but
01:07:56.940
obviously like, like if I'm dating you, like, you know, I feel like you should understand
01:08:02.100
me, you know, you know, I want that back. That sounds more like a sugar daddy than a
01:08:06.320
boyfriend. No, it really does. And it's really hypocritical that you didn't even like care
01:08:11.000
to know what job he had, but you want his money. Like, I don't want his money. I just
01:08:15.520
feel like it's expected. It shouldn't be expected. I think she just has a, um, what
01:08:20.280
is it? Like the love language? Like you just like gift giving. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You need
01:08:24.940
a Leo. There you go. Like, I feel like it's just the type of person you ask, you know?
01:08:28.940
I agree. But like, I get it. The first month is like, what the fuck? You want a guy to spend
01:08:34.680
$2,000 on you within the first month, you got to bump way up the age you're willing to
01:08:41.220
date. I'm talking 40 plus. Oh. Nobody under, unless he's a major simp, nobody under 40 either
01:08:48.740
has the money to do that or would be willing to, is spending $2,000 on a girl they just met.
01:08:55.660
Okay. You got to, you got to pump those numbers up if you want to get that kind of treatment.
01:09:01.600
Are, were you like cleaning his house and doing his laundry and cooking him meals? Or are you just
01:09:05.560
being like, give me money. Cause I'm your girlfriend. Um, I didn't ask him for money,
01:09:10.200
but I wasn't doing any of that either, but you kind of were asking for him for money. Cause you're
01:09:14.180
like, give me this $2,000 purse. I didn't ask him to get me the bag. No, you were basically expecting
01:09:19.520
it. Yeah. You were expecting it, which is even worse than asking and being told no. You were like
01:09:24.720
basically trying to force that on him and be like, Oh, you're a jerk. If you don't buy
01:09:28.340
it for me, but I didn't explicitly ask for it. You like hinted it. Yeah. Yeah. That's
01:09:34.060
not really a hint. That's, you know, Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. That's holding
01:09:38.140
something over somebody's head. That's not a hint. You're, you're, you're punishing him
01:09:43.860
for not buying you something you want. So what do you think I should have said? Not punish
01:09:47.760
somebody for not wanting to buy you a $2,000 purse or get a job. I was going to say financially
01:09:57.100
wise, he wasn't stepping up enough. I feel like pizza. I was going to say like, I feel
01:10:09.160
like that probably just benefits both of them because if she wants to be with someone who
01:10:12.720
wants to get her a $2,000 bag, then them being broken up, like helps because if he doesn't
01:10:17.320
want to give it, then he's just not going to give it. Like it's just like solves the
01:10:21.200
problem. It's, I don't think it's a punishment to break up with someone over that. Cause I
01:10:25.000
feel like it just wasn't right for me. If I didn't want to give someone a $2,000 bag
01:10:29.880
because they expected it of me and they broke up with me, I'd probably be like, well, yeah.
01:10:34.060
Yeah. Oh, well, that's not my side. That's not my person. You know? And I feel like,
01:10:37.640
I think I understand where you're coming. Cause it's like, what the fuck? Like,
01:10:40.420
why would you even ask that? But like, I don't know. Like, I think at the same time,
01:10:44.740
like if he really liked it, he would do it. I agree. I don't think it's cute. I think
01:10:48.520
it's being materialistic and I think it's a red flag. I got a quick question. Do you
01:10:52.620
have Chanel yourself? Like, yes, I do. Without asking him. Yeah. So I make most of my money
01:11:00.080
reselling clothes. So I find like, um, like designer items, um, from thrifts, the bins everywhere.
01:11:09.360
I go to markets as well, sell clothes and I get a lot of my money from there. Yeah. So
01:11:15.060
I do have, yeah. At least he should have a inspiration, like impression of you. That's
01:11:20.980
at least he should supposed to be provide for you. Yeah. I agree. But what, so how many
01:11:28.240
times would you say you hung out with him? Um, we hung out a lot. Um, I would say, uh, three,
01:11:35.420
four times a week. I mean, I was ever go to his place. Um, yeah. For like dates. Did you
01:11:41.640
clean his house? No. Did you do his laundry? No. Did you cook for him? No. So, okay. Explain to me
01:11:48.260
if a guy's going to be, cause you're saying men should do this. Men should do that. The question
01:11:53.380
to the panel is what should women do? I feel like before marriage, I don't think a woman should like
01:12:03.360
do that much compared to the man. I mean, I feel like us just being there like is enough.
01:12:13.700
But why can't a guy say that? Okay. Well, prior to marriage, I shouldn't have to do X, Y, Z.
01:12:19.820
Oh, we go 50, 50 till we're married. I'm not going to buy you anything till we're married.
01:12:24.060
I'm not going to protect you until we're married. So explain to me, you're saying men should do this.
01:12:30.820
Men should do that. And no, women don't have an issue saying men should do X. But the moment men say
01:12:37.660
women should do this, women should do X, Y, Z, whatever it is. You guys kind of have a problem
01:12:44.720
with it. I'm asking you though, what should women do? Um, I think women should look cute. Um,
01:12:54.260
you know, be presentable for their man. Um, you know, just, I feel like us just being in their
01:13:02.360
presence is enough. Felicity, just give it to them. Don't make them pass it. Um, so, okay.
01:13:14.120
Okay. So women shouldn't clean their, their boyfriend's place. No, I mean, women shouldn't
01:13:22.040
do the laundry. Women shouldn't cook. I mean, do you know how to cook? Of course I do. So why didn't
01:13:26.540
you cook for him? I mean, I did have an experience where I did cook for one of my boyfriends, but
01:13:32.920
I feel like I shouldn't have to do that before marriage. Like it shouldn't be required. This has
01:13:37.120
to be a fucking troll. I'm not sure I believe it, but okay. Okay. Um, so I guess to the
01:13:44.640
other women on the panel, what should women do? I feel like fucking dot nothing. I think
01:13:56.380
nothing. Yeah. I think it's just a matter of like what you individually agree on, like
01:13:59.900
for the real pussy. Like she didn't even give him pussy. Well, okay. I'd like, I think that
01:14:04.900
it's just depends on like what you both want. Cause there's some men that are cool, like
01:14:08.420
being in relationships with like women who like don't do anything and like vice versa.
01:14:12.840
I know there's some women out there that are completely fine with their men, like not going
01:14:15.900
to work and just driving around their car all day. So I think it's really just a matter
01:14:19.600
of like, I don't think there's a should or a shouldn't. I think it's just like whatever
01:14:24.740
goes on in your relationship. So if that's what you agree on, then that's what you agree
01:14:29.740
on. Don't you think that you should act like a wife if you're asking for wife
01:14:33.720
treatment? I think if you and your partner agree on whatever you think that that should
01:14:39.820
be, then yeah. I mean, I think it's literally just an individual thing. Cause some men are
01:14:43.960
completely fine with their woman doing nothing. Like literally. And some men aren't, some men
01:14:48.340
want their like woman in the kitchen, like doing whatever, which is like cool. But that's
01:14:51.320
if you agree on that and that's the relationship that you consent to being in, then that's all
01:14:54.760
you. So how is she contributing to the relationship and how does that not make her just a sugar
01:14:58.380
baby? I mean, it depends on what label they decide to put on it. If they want to call
01:15:03.020
themselves like partners, then if there's an objective truth to that label, I think
01:15:08.280
that label is objective, objectively. Like if it's a matter of opinion, I don't know.
01:15:14.620
Like what, like, what do you think? I mean, yeah, like, I guess there's a like dictionary
01:15:18.480
definition of a sugar baby. But in my opinion, from like what I understand from like women
01:15:24.460
that I know that have been in relationships like that, it's like, like that's all they are.
01:15:30.480
Like they wouldn't call each other partners because they're not, you know, like going
01:15:33.840
home to each other every night. They're not like, you know, they don't have a ring on
01:15:37.480
their finger because that's not what they want for each other. But it's like if my husband
01:15:40.640
is paying for everything all the time and I don't have to do anything, I mean, that's
01:15:45.060
still my husband. It's not my sugar daddy because I'm married to him and I'm in love
01:15:50.860
Yeah, but that's marriage. That's not just dating. That's marriage. That's not just dating.
01:15:54.000
Well, same thing with dating. I mean, I've like, and my, for me at least, I don't know,
01:15:57.220
I date to like be with that person long-term. Some people don't. And again, it's all what
01:16:04.980
Yeah, I think sugar baby, sugar daddy relationships are usually strictly lust.
01:16:15.640
Versus like a relationship where the woman just does nothing. Just a relationship where
01:16:20.520
she does nothing. Not really sugar baby. What was the argument?
01:16:37.520
Well, about that, like, should women do stuff? I feel like if he's doing a lot for you, like,
01:16:45.620
yeah, why not? You know, take care of him. Like, you know, like a lot of men, they want
01:16:50.660
to talk. I mean, I feel like they're just like us, but just, you know, obviously they're
01:16:54.680
men. But I believe if you, if he's taking care of you, why not take care of him? You
01:17:00.320
know, like bring him food or, you know, give him a gift sometimes. Like, I feel like that's,
01:17:07.360
I like that because I think it's just like reciprocation and like reciprocation is good.
01:17:11.520
Like you always get like good karma, you know? So, um, it'd just be a healthier relationship.
01:17:16.900
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And like, honestly, I, yeah, I don't think it's good to just keep taking
01:17:22.700
from people. I don't think that that's like the necessary, but if that's what you want out of a
01:17:27.840
man, now it's like we were saying, it just shows exactly like, um, it just shows exactly what you
01:17:34.280
want out of him. And if he's not giving you that, then okay, then you can move on to the next and
01:17:38.240
find one that is willing to do that for you. Yeah. Yeah. Teach their own. Personally, I like
01:17:44.620
doing nice things for my partner. I like making sure they're taken care of and such.
01:17:49.440
Like for clarity, I don't feel that way. It's just more so of like, it's an individual thing. I feel
01:17:55.540
like, yeah, like I was saying, like you can't put a label on like someone is wrong for doing something
01:17:59.540
if both like partners are okay, like agreeing and consenting. I still, I feel like morally, like,
01:18:05.080
you know, I don't know. I think that it's important to like reciprocate love even like,
01:18:11.680
I mean, for example, like I feel like a lot of people get hurt or like cheated on in relationships
01:18:14.980
and like done really dirty over and over. And then they end up like projecting that onto other people
01:18:19.640
that they end up dating who aren't doing that. And like, that's problematic because that person
01:18:25.920
didn't do anything to you. I think like internal healing and stuff is important.
01:18:29.880
And that's, yeah, that's the thing that sucks because I think a lot of people don't have,
01:18:33.080
like, don't take the time to actually heal and like actually, you know, want to, you know,
01:18:38.840
think about what went on in the past because I know I've done things where I'm like, damn,
01:18:44.500
like I fucked up. But like, I had to take the time to be like, okay, I need to like, look at myself
01:18:51.060
in a way instead of like going on to the next guy and trying to like bring that on to him because,
01:18:56.680
you know, he doesn't deserve it, obviously. So, yeah.
01:18:59.780
Yeah. I just think it's really manipulative and deceptive to say that somebody needs to bring
01:19:04.580
this much money to a relationship, but you're bringing absolutely nothing of value except for
01:19:10.780
But what do you bring to the table, I guess? Question for everyone.
01:19:14.140
Although you are in school to become a physiologist.
01:19:17.280
But I guess maybe it's not that you're, I think you just need to like,
01:19:20.220
I make my own money too. And I make a good amount. Like for an 18 year old,
01:19:23.800
like that has no support from their parents, I make a decent amount. If I'm able to buy myself
01:19:28.300
these things, I also expect it from my partner.
01:19:30.780
That makes sense. And since you're into fashion a lot.
01:19:34.020
And that's like one of your love languages. Yeah. That makes sense.
01:19:37.120
I think it's going to make it, I think it's going to make it that much harder for you to find
01:19:40.120
somebody who meets your standards because you make so much money.
01:19:44.020
Well, not so much, but I mean, I would say for an 18 year old.
01:19:45.560
Right. But if you just look at like statistics around like the available men,
01:19:49.780
it's going to be really hard to find that guy. Yeah. Because why? Impossible.
01:19:54.840
It's really rare to find a guy who makes a lot of money, especially in that like age range.
01:20:00.400
I'd say a Leo or an older man. Just that's why. I don't know. A lot of Leos like to
01:20:04.640
gift a lot and then older men as well, but you are young. So yeah, just slow and steady. You have
01:20:09.980
time. You have plenty of time. Just go for some old guy. Just kidding. Or someone that really
01:20:15.380
likes you. Joke. True. I've had men that really like me and they just would say I'm sorry.
01:20:20.260
Oh, give me whatever. Exactly. You're right. You might find someone your age. Yeah.
01:20:24.500
Well, what age range do you typically go for? Wilson.
01:20:29.340
Over at least two years older than me. So you're 18. Yeah.
01:20:36.440
I'm Felicity's still. We're friends. We're friends.
01:20:38.480
Yeah. I agree. It would be pretty difficult to find someone who's loaded at 20 years old,
01:20:47.180
but you never know. I'll be rooting for you. I'll be rooting for you.
01:20:56.560
We are everyone. I feel like we are the table. Like they should bring everything to us.
01:21:02.300
No. Yeah. Are you being silly? No. Maybe bring like a little bit more like wanting to get to
01:21:10.720
know them. But other than that. Yeah. But I feel like it shouldn't be expected from a woman to be
01:21:15.360
the provider. Yeah. You know, they should provide the things to the table. We are the table. But
01:21:20.700
then you're not like contributing to his life like at all. And he's not benefiting from being with you
01:21:24.480
like at all. I'm sorry. Are you talking about my previous relationship? Yeah. So at that point,
01:21:28.960
couldn't he just like not date and like do whatever he wants and then benefit more? Of
01:21:33.940
course. That's why I broke up with him. Exactly. Yeah. So he's doing better now. Okay. You did him a
01:21:39.840
favor. Yeah. Yeah. I actually hate that question. What do you bring to the table? I think it's
01:21:45.680
strange to ask if you're like casually dating someone. It's different if you're like,
01:21:51.260
what do you bring to a serious relationship? But to be like, well, what are you bringing for me?
01:21:56.360
It's kind of feminine, I think, to expect to be provided for as I don't know. I think you can
01:22:05.220
expect certain things from a partner. Like what do you think you guys have to offer like certain
01:22:09.780
characteristics? I guess that's more like my question. Like what do you bring to the table?
01:22:14.420
Like what positive characteristics can you exclusively give to your partner or share with?
01:22:22.820
I feel like, I don't know. I don't know. Like I talk about this with my friends. I think
01:22:29.920
like, I don't know how to word it. There's like this one video I saw one time where this girl was
01:22:37.020
like, I breathe life into you, bro. Like I was just like, I'm not like these other bitches. Like
01:22:41.700
my, like my, you might not be as wet, but like, I swear, like I'll breathe, I'll breathe life into
01:22:46.980
you, whatever. And I was like, okay, like period, kind of straight away from the point. But like
01:22:52.120
that vibe of just, I feel like, like I'm going to love you to like my fullest extent, like regardless
01:22:57.420
of what I've been through, like what I've experienced, I'm always going to try and like, I mean, do the
01:23:01.440
like relationship things, but like to that fullest extent where like, I'm going to communicate with
01:23:04.880
you. Like, I know that sounds silly, but like legitimately, like when I'm having a hard time and
01:23:08.120
I'd rather shut down, I'm going to like make that effort to talk to you and like, be like,
01:23:12.900
hey, just letting you know, like, I'm really like feeling like shutting down right now. I'm feeling
01:23:16.260
like this or, you know, when I'm not feeling heard, communicating that, like doing the things that
01:23:21.080
make me uncomfortable so that we can both benefit from the relationship. Cause I think that's kind
01:23:25.640
of what you were talking about is like, you know, like when you're talking about, like, what are you
01:23:30.560
bringing to the table? That's more for a serious partnership. But like legitimately, when you're
01:23:34.160
talking about like being with someone longterm, I feel like that is something that's important to talk
01:23:37.580
about, like, you know, like, are you putting in the effort to communicate with me? Like when you're
01:23:42.160
having a hard day, are you just going to the room and like shutting the door? Are you like sitting
01:23:45.300
down and talking with me and let me know, like, hey, work was hard. Like, it's not about you. I just
01:23:50.020
need some space. Like things like that are super, super important. And those are like the little
01:23:53.960
things, you know what I mean? Like communication or like texting someone like that's such a little
01:23:59.220
thing that I feel like men are like, especially really bad about where they just like, like, I just
01:24:03.780
forgot or I was just busy or like, dude, takes five seconds. Hey, Siri, send a message. Hey,
01:24:10.320
just thinking of you. Is it like an ick if a guy's a bad texter? Yes. Really? Yes. And it's because
01:24:16.420
it's literally like that low effort of a thing. Cause I hate texting. Like that's part of why it's
01:24:20.100
like, I've, I hate texting. I suck at it. I'm better at picking up the phone to call. But yeah,
01:24:25.380
like if you can't just like, Hey Siri, me like, Hey, just thinking of you like once a day,
01:24:29.700
like if I'm getting like two messages from you, like, it's just such a minimal effort thing.
01:24:33.300
It's like part of why, or if you know, you're going to be like slammed that whole day. Like
01:24:37.560
if you have five seconds, just be like, Hey, I've been absolutely slammed. Like I'm probably not
01:24:40.980
going to be on my phone for a couple hours. Like, just let me know. You know what I mean? Like
01:24:44.000
it's such a little, little thing. And I feel like if you can't do that, then it's like, come on.
01:24:48.840
Is it an ick if a guy's bad at spelling? Like on text? Bad at spelling? Or if he uses too many emojis?
01:24:54.000
It's so it depends on like the context. I feel like, I don't know how y'all feel.
01:24:59.880
But if a guy's like, I miss you. I hate you. They use the wrong your.
01:25:03.900
That dude. The wrong there, there and theirs. And the wrong your and your. And the wrong two and two.
01:25:09.120
Those will get me. And if the word is like it, they spell it like without just one letter. Like
01:25:15.120
why, why, why not just spell it? But is it like a deal breaker? Like you're going to leave it.
01:25:20.320
It's not a deal breaker. It's just really annoying. Yeah. I don't like when like
01:25:23.620
someone's like, I love you. With like a you. Or like just love. Oh yeah. It has to be while you.
01:25:28.380
I don't. Because like how much longer. It's again, one of those like low effort things. Like
01:25:32.620
how much longer does it take to type out two letters? Like come on. Like. I guess I never
01:25:37.040
really thought too much into it. I'm not a good texter. Honestly. See like that's where I'll give
01:25:41.860
you like the pass is like whatever. Because it's like there's some people I know in my life that
01:25:45.460
legitimately just like can't text for the life of them. Like I don't know what it is. Like I'll see them
01:25:50.540
and like that I won't see them again for like four months because they just like go in my eye.
01:25:56.420
Yeah. I literally, I just don't like texting at all. That's why I'm like, I'm always, I always
01:26:00.660
tell the guys, I'm like, just call me. Call me. Like I don't care. Yes. I don't care. Call
01:26:04.460
me whatever. FaceTime me, whatever. Um, but the whole texting field, I'm like, I don't care
01:26:09.840
if you mess up on a word. I really don't care. But the emojis thing, sometimes they creep me
01:26:14.660
out. Okay. I'd be like, dude, why are you over excessively doing all these random ass
01:26:19.860
emojis like right off the bat? Like I think it's kind of weird. Yeah. If they use like
01:26:23.900
the, they use that like eggplant emoji, I'm like blocked. Oh, sometimes like, yeah. When
01:26:31.480
men start texting you all this weird shit, I'm like, yeah, I'm good. I don't know. All
01:26:35.200
right. So I was listening to all that bullshit behind the scenes. Um, I didn't really hear
01:26:40.540
compelling anything from anybody as to what women should do. It's literally silence. It's
01:26:51.440
crazy. It's different with everybody. Why is there such a differential between men and
01:26:55.860
women on this? Cause we're all different. So as a man, I can say what I think men should
01:26:59.500
bring and I can say what I think women should bring, but y'all can't seem to think outside
01:27:05.840
of what you want. You can probably say, Oh, women want this. Why can't you tell me what
01:27:13.960
men want? Or excuse me, I should reframe what women should do. You guys can say what men
01:27:24.560
should do, but you can't say what women should do. No, they can say it freedom of speech, but
01:27:29.540
um, I think we're all just different. Hey, but we're all different. So you have to think about
01:27:34.340
it like that. We're all, we all want different things. So you can't just be like, okay, guys
01:27:38.840
should do this. Girls should do this. It's all subjective. So you really can't, but you
01:27:42.600
can say it. It's freedom of speech. You could say it's freedom of speech, but we shouldn't
01:27:46.240
be generalizing it. And I feel like sometimes guys don't communicate that. Like I've had
01:27:55.440
literally, I've been in relations or just dates in general where I've never heard like a guy
01:28:00.460
be like, Oh yeah, I want you to do this. Like you don't say anything. I think like, it's like,
01:28:04.120
I agree. Do we have to have a conversation? Yeah. And I think they think that we're doing
01:28:08.780
the same thing, but wait, so hold on. If I have to pay on the first date, I need to wait for you
01:28:15.280
to tell me to do it. No, I need to wait for you to say, to tell me what you need or is the right
01:28:22.400
move as a guy to just get it. And we don't need you to remind us to pay for the date. We just,
01:28:29.340
that's what we do. Well, no, I think, or should we have a conversation? Well, I've had a conversation
01:28:36.340
with a guy, like the last guy I dated, I literally was like, is this a date? Like, because sometimes
01:28:40.960
they don't even tell you like, this is a date. Like they're like, Oh, let's hang out. Let's go out.
01:28:45.620
And then you end up finding out during the time when you're eating, it's like a day because
01:28:49.480
they're asking you all these questions about your past and your exes. And I'm like, bro,
01:28:53.000
you could have told me. If a guy's asking you to hang out, it's typically not under the purview
01:28:57.800
of being friends. You know, I, so if they don't say that, then it's not a date to me. Yeah.
01:29:02.940
Literally. Yeah. You need to say, or I'm going to assume we're just hanging out as friends.
01:29:07.000
You know what? This is a perfect time for the bow video. I know precisely what women should do.
01:29:11.100
I have very high expectations of women immediately, just like you. I expect quite a bit. Well,
01:29:16.480
you know, it's actually the bare minimum. What do you expect?
01:29:18.760
Bare minimum. Huh? What do you expect? I'm about to show you. I took a video so I could properly
01:29:24.320
put future girlfriends through a training course, the Brian Atlas training course. I actually took
01:29:31.280
a video of my ex-girlfriend. This is like a teaser trailer for all the long list of expectations
01:29:38.460
that I have of women. Nick, can I have you go ahead, pull up the bow video. So I took this
01:29:42.860
video of my ex-girlfriend. This was after a long podcast episode coming home from work. Go ahead,
01:29:47.840
play it. She has to, she has to greet me with a bow, bow once a day. She has to bow to show
01:29:56.180
respect and then laundry immediately. So, you know, my dinner has to be ready and she has
01:30:04.600
to time it too. It has to be, it can't be sitting there. It has to be like done with
01:30:08.200
as soon as I get there. Opens a beer for me, stirs my noodles. I dumped her because she
01:30:14.880
fucked up the tomatoes. Who the fuck eats tomatoes like that? Disgusting. So I broke
01:30:19.040
up with her right after. Well, I ate the food first and the beer, but then. So, oh, the bow.
01:30:24.660
Let's see the bow one more time. That's the most important part. Here's the expectation.
01:30:28.420
Step through the door. Deep bow. Do you see the submissive hand positioning too? That's my
01:30:33.860
expectation. Damn, you're strict. Oh, that's nothing. And that's fine. You might find her.
01:30:40.820
You might find her. That's not strict. That takes, that shit takes no effort. That's zero
01:30:46.060
effort. That's easy. Bare minimum. If she won't, find someone who will. Someone that wants a green
01:30:51.260
card will, might do that. There you go. Right there. Girl, I have the white, I can get the whitest
01:30:55.960
white girl to do that. I'm going to have difficulty having, black girls won't do that. I'm open
01:31:02.180
to it. They won't do that shit. Um, but you know, it's true. That's true. No, that's
01:31:08.520
not true. It's true. She's willing to do it. Huh? She's willing to do it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
01:31:14.340
Mm-hmm. I am. She, hold on. She didn't do shit for the fucking guy. You have to get the
01:31:18.140
bag first. She didn't do jack shit. No, that's not the right guy. If he asked me to, I would.
01:31:21.640
There's just a price to everything. What do you mean there's a price? Yeah, per bow, um,
01:31:26.300
1,000. Okay, you're retarded. That's, you're ridiculous. I mean, you, you're asking for a
01:31:31.060
bow, right? You are. So just pay up for it. There you go. It's reciprocation.
01:31:36.660
Yeah. She's giving you what you're giving her. In Korea, yeah, they bow at any older people. It's
01:31:42.220
not your, her husband or boyfriend. She was 40, so she was older than me. Just kidding.
01:31:47.500
If she respect you and they just bow at everyone, like everyone. It's a cultural
01:31:53.400
thing. Well, I expect Latinos, white women, Native Americans, all of the, you know, where
01:32:02.120
it wouldn't make cultural sense to do it, still expect them to do it. You might not
01:32:08.200
find her. Yeah. You might not find her. No, you don't. There is someone out there that
01:32:14.340
would, there is someone. Oh my God. You have a podcast. You guys have no idea. I think
01:32:18.920
a sensible woman wants to be taken care of and would act in a way that her husband would
01:32:25.160
approve of. I take care of it. I take care of it. Yeah. If she's my girlfriend, I'm taking
01:32:33.560
care of everything. She's never going to have to work another day in her life. I have very
01:32:37.520
simplistic expectations of my girl. Okay. That's fine. There's someone that will do that.
01:32:43.860
There's nothing wrong. So have you found someone like her so far? What do you mean? Like
01:32:47.980
bow. Who are willing to, yes, I've, I've dated, I have dated women who do all that. How much
01:32:54.000
did you pay them per bow? Nothing. Don't pay them anything. There's some women are humble
01:32:58.440
for free. No, there's some girls that if they really like you, like, cause I've had people
01:33:04.200
that I've done stuff for because I really do like, you know, and I care about them. Like
01:33:09.140
I bought ice cream for my ex. Yeah. $5 ice cream. No, it was $7. Wait, are you wearing
01:33:18.060
a wig? No. Somebody in the chat says you're wearing a wig. Well, I have extensions in right
01:33:22.160
now. Oh, somebody in the chat just said you were wearing a wig. Thank you. They said give
01:33:24.860
her 1k pickles, 1k to take that wig off. I guess you're not wearing a wig. Okay. Chair
01:33:29.620
six is a wig. Wait, that's me. Wait, is that me? No, that's her natural hair. Are you kidding?
01:33:36.040
I mean, my hair's really flat right now. Yeah. They just like to bully me as a guy. I was
01:33:40.920
prepared. Oh, we should play that Andrew Wilson clip where the other expectation too. That's
01:33:47.060
a good one. Nick, I don't know if you recall it. It's in the discord somewhere. I think
01:33:52.060
where is it? Hmm. Let me see if I can find it. It was about, okay. It's in the resources
01:34:01.520
media folder. It's a resources hashtag media. It's, um, like what he expects of his wife
01:34:09.900
basically, especially any like disputes or whatever. It's, uh, in the discord. You'll
01:34:15.900
be able to find it. Great clip from Andrew Wilson. Uh, we're going to play that. This
01:34:20.340
is another sort of expectation. Yeah. Expect the girl to be submissive. Okay. You guys want
01:34:25.400
a leader, but y'all, y'all don't want to be followers. No, I do. If you're paying for
01:34:31.340
everything, you'll find someone. We'll see about that. But a lot of women say they're
01:34:35.120
submissive. They want a man who's a leader, but we can't lead if you're not willing to
01:34:38.920
follow. If you're going to fight us on everything, if you're going to be quarrelsome, if you're
01:34:43.280
going to second guess and nitpick and nag about our decisions, then yeah, you're not
01:34:48.500
submissive. You're not a fall. You're, you want to, you want to be a backseat leader. Go
01:34:53.980
ahead, Nick. Pull that shit up. Pull it up. You got it. But there's levels to being
01:35:01.240
submissive too, though. You just want the extremist. No, not even extreme. All right.
01:35:05.460
Go ahead. Uh, play it. You show respect to your wife. Yeah. Oh, all sorts of ways. I
01:35:10.840
basically give her whatever the hell she wants. I adore her. But here's the thing. The reason
01:35:14.680
that I do this is because if I say this is what ultimately is going to happen, that's the
01:35:19.300
last word in it. And I don't even want to have the conversation. We don't. Now she may really
01:35:23.420
want to. And I can tell sometimes that she really does, but I don't fucking care because
01:35:28.220
it's my decision ultimately. So you don't care about how she feels? I don't know. I
01:35:31.700
didn't say I didn't care how she feels. I just don't care to have her question my authority
01:35:35.860
autonomy over the marriage. Was there initial conversation prior to that? Or is it just
01:35:39.380
like, we're doing this. Don't ask me about it. Depends on the context. I would say more
01:35:42.760
for like bigger decisions in life, not necessarily like little things. Even larger decisions if ultimately,
01:35:49.340
let's say I went home and I said, we're moving to Nevada in three weeks, get your bags
01:35:52.740
packed and I'm not going to have a thing. I don't want to hear a word about it. You're
01:35:56.380
doing it. And that's the way it's going. And you think that's respectful? I think that
01:36:00.080
ultimately it's my choice. And how she shows me respect. Yeah, that's how she shows me
01:36:04.160
respect. How do you show respect here? You can pause it. All right. Thoughts? I agree
01:36:09.200
with them. Okay. I mean, it's kind of just goes back to the point that I was saying
01:36:15.320
earlier. Like if that's what they agree on in their relationship, like morally, do I disagree
01:36:20.500
with that? Yeah. I feel like you should care about your partner's like wants, but
01:36:24.720
well, he didn't, that's not what he said. Well, he's like, I don't want to have a conversation
01:36:28.440
about it. Even if I can tell she wants to, I'm like, okay, like that's, if that's what
01:36:33.160
y'all agree on, then like, that's you. I don't agree with, like I said, I don't agree with
01:36:37.100
it morally, but if that's like their marriage and what they've agreed on and she's like doing
01:36:43.040
that, then like, I don't know, like that's them. Okay. So how would you like to see something
01:36:47.200
like that go? Like, what do you mean? A conversation? You said, yeah, you, you want
01:36:53.340
to have the conversation. You want to, the guy has to check. Well, I mean, like I would
01:36:59.320
hope you'd want to be like, Hey, if we're moving to Nevada in three weeks, I'd want my
01:37:03.280
partner's input. But if he doesn't care for her input and she's fine, not giving it, then
01:37:07.940
like, keep in mind also, here's the broader context of their relationship. He's the primary
01:37:13.280
breadwinner and they've been married for a very long time. It's plausible that this sort
01:37:18.660
of ask would obviously be unreasonable if you've been dating somebody for three months. But
01:37:24.500
in the context of a long-term marriage like this, I mean, I still think it just goes back
01:37:30.100
to like, whatever they agreed on for their marriage is like what they agreed on for their
01:37:35.620
marriage. Well, then you can just say that about any relationship. To an extent. I mean,
01:37:40.460
like, yes, I'd like what I'm saying is like, if that's what individually, like what works
01:37:44.060
for them and that's not like impacting anybody else's lives and like, you know, like that's
01:37:48.820
them. But morally, do I disagree with his stance on it and the way that he's saying it and like
01:37:55.180
making that point? Yeah. Cause I get like where you're coming from in the context of like, well,
01:37:59.880
he's making all of the money and they've been together for this amount of time. So technically
01:38:04.580
like, you know, wherever they move, whatever they do, like that's his, but there's some marriages
01:38:09.360
that do work like that. And the wife still has a say in it. You know what I mean? That's
01:38:13.100
just not how their marriage is working. Yeah, that is a dynamic. But I guess what I'm trying
01:38:17.460
to get to here is this goes back to what should women do? And again, I've posed the question
01:38:26.040
multiple times. You guys are very quick to say men should do this, but you don't even know
01:38:31.640
what you yourself should do as women. Your reaction to the clip.
01:38:38.880
So for me, I never struggled for this because there are always so many guys, they offer different
01:38:45.780
things. You've never had a boyfriend. Yes, but they keep offering. And I just go to the
01:38:50.480
guy, whoever offered the thing I like and I will do whatever he asks, but I will pick the
01:38:56.980
offer first. Like that's a very first start. But you, okay, you have these men who are willing
01:39:03.080
to do all this stuff, but what? Then if what I do first is I make my commitment, I give them
01:39:11.800
chance, then I will hear, listen them out, hear them out, like what they want. Okay.
01:39:18.800
Your thoughts on the clip? What do you think? Like what do I bring to the table or like what do
01:39:23.980
them? Uh, sure. You could answer that, but just your reaction to the, I guess also we
01:39:28.140
should do the bow video too. Well, how about this? The most recent one, give your reaction
01:39:32.880
to what he said, and then we can talk about the bow thing. Um, well, I kind of agree what
01:39:38.260
chair, the first chair said it, that's what you wanted to look for. And that's what you agreed
01:39:43.280
on to be committed into this relationship. Then that it should, that's what happens. You know,
01:39:49.620
like I don't, I really don't have any opinions on that. It's just what you agreed on. If you
01:39:54.720
want to be in a committed relationship. Okay. I'm going to have the rest of the panel come in.
01:40:00.180
I need to add Zills. I apologize for the delay on this. Uh, I was away from the computer. I'm very
01:40:08.440
sorry for the delay. My bad. Yo, Brian, big fan of the show from the UK. Quick alert. We need
01:40:16.540
Gustavo back after serving his duties. Yes, we do. When can we expect him back?
01:40:21.640
Great question. Uh, you know, I've been, I've been wanting to get another person in here to be
01:40:27.400
the, another background character. We do, if there's any men in Santa Barbara, you gotta be
01:40:32.960
in Santa Barbara. I don't want to nobody, no commuters. You want to be a background character.
01:40:37.920
You want to wear the military uniform. You can DM me out, whatever. Uh, so yeah, that would be good.
01:40:45.840
I, I reached out to him, you know, but I think he, I think he's dead. No, I'm just kidding. Um,
01:40:51.820
and I do put a ad you sent in to, there's been some delay on them.
01:40:57.320
Azills donated $250. Yeah. Thank you, man. Brian, big fan of the show. Much from the UK.
01:41:04.780
Quick alert. We need Gustavo back after serving his duties in Chile. When can we expect him back?
01:41:11.360
Sure. You guys got to reach out to him. See if he'll, he'll come back and, uh, and do the show.
01:41:16.100
But, uh, yeah, maybe we'll find somebody else to fill his, uh, fill his, uh, spot though. Thank you.
01:41:21.640
By the way, because of the delay adzills, if you want to send in like a 10, uh, I'll treat it as a,
01:41:30.400
a read, a TTS, just a $10 message. That's just our threshold for it to come through in my,
01:41:35.320
uh, on my laptop here. So sorry for the delay, man. Thank you though. We also have Kung Pao.
01:41:43.800
This show is great. Modern day Jerry Springer. I'm American, but been living overseas for over 10
01:41:48.340
years. Feel bad for my friends in the American dating landscape. I only miss my family, friends
01:41:53.780
and food when I gone for the prolonged periods. Kung Pao chicken. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
01:41:58.380
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, man. Also guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a
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follow. Drop us a prime sub. If you, if you have one twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow and
01:42:08.780
a prime sub if you have one. Okay. Uh, going around the table here. Oh wait, there's another
01:42:13.100
one. Pasty George snuck one in here. Good thing I caught it. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Thank
01:42:17.980
you. Thank you. It's coming up in just a moment. We're letting some of these, these come through.
01:42:23.140
We still need to finish up relationship status and getting people's reacts to Andrew's video and the
01:42:30.240
bow. Thank you. Pasty. Pasty George donated $200. Some years back, my friend was visiting
01:42:39.760
Indonesia and met a young woman from the rural areas. He eventually married her and she bows
01:42:45.860
to him each time he comes home from work. Yo, George. Thank you, man. Uh, some years back,
01:42:54.380
my friend was visiting Indonesia. Okay. She bows, she bows to him each time he comes home from work.
01:43:01.220
There you go. There's hope for you, Brian. Yeah, there's hope. You'll find someone.
01:43:05.900
Bro, you guys make it out to be like the bow thing is this big ask or doing laundry is this big.
01:43:12.000
It's really not. It's really not. Simple and easy. And I'll do that for my man. See,
01:43:16.680
there you go. There you go. If he gives you whatever I want. Well, exactly. No, no, not whatever.
01:43:23.400
Why Ryan? What? No, we don't believe. We don't believe in the princess treatment here. He has to
01:43:28.020
say no sometimes. Yeah, that's me. You know, why would he say no? That's not me. Yes. Wait,
01:43:34.940
do you think it's abusive to say your girl wants you to buy some shit and you say no? Is that like
01:43:39.840
abusive? Yes. That's mental. You can't afford it, but that's emotional. That's how you know
01:43:44.980
when to leave. How, how is it emotional abuse? It just is like hearing that word, hearing the word
01:43:52.000
no, like that already like triggers me. Well, that's financially abusive. Imagine if a man said
01:43:58.500
that hearing the word no triggers me. Yeah. You know what that sounds like? Sounds. I know the
01:44:04.080
context is different, but that's, that's a major fucking yikes. Uh, okay. Um, would you bow for
01:44:11.940
your man? I don't think so. Oh, wait, we were doing the Andrew Wilson react. My bad. Would you,
01:44:18.060
what did you think of that? I think I also agree with the first person. Like, okay. Just one thing.
01:44:25.300
Instead of saying, I agree with this person, just state your position. Like if you are,
01:44:31.820
if you're willing to be in a committed relationship, like, you know, I would. Okay. What about you?
01:44:39.280
I mean, of course I would bow down to my man. No, no, no. What Andrew was saying, the guy was saying.
01:44:45.180
Um, I mean, it depends on where it is, where the place is. I wouldn't go to Virginia.
01:44:51.000
I mean, if it's like Paris or something. So you're married? Yeah.
01:44:54.140
Okay. Depends on the place. So you, you, you get to pick basically. Yeah, basically. Okay. So
01:45:03.900
you're just conditionally submissive so long as it suits you. Yeah. Yeah. That's the perfect. You
01:45:11.540
do realize in relationships, there are going to be situationships or decisions where like not every
01:45:17.460
single outcome is always going to be the outcome you want. Like that's just part of life also.
01:45:25.380
Maybe just like not in my relationship. How would you know that? Well, if it comes to that,
01:45:32.500
then I'll just break up with them. So you've been married to a guy for two years and one of his
01:45:37.580
decisions, you like slightly. I mean, I wouldn't be married to someone like that in the first place.
01:45:43.300
You wouldn't be married to somebody who within the confines of that relationship, you might be
01:45:47.740
inconvenienced by something. It depends on how, um, how deep it is. So if it's not like that big of a
01:45:56.620
deal, then I don't really care. But if it's something that like changes where I live, then yeah, I'm going
01:46:01.780
to be definitely. Do you want to be a stay at home wife? Like not have to work? Um, like let's say he
01:46:09.260
makes a million dollars a year. You don't have to work. Yeah. Would you be fine? But in order for
01:46:14.600
that lifestyle to continue, he's like, we need to move here. And that location maybe is not, is not
01:46:19.760
as desirable as a location you're currently in, but he's like, we have to move there. Well, it's a good
01:46:25.180
thing that I'm, that I'll be an anesthesiologist. So I'll be able to make close enough to a million
01:46:30.400
dollars. So we don't have to rely on his money then. And I can move wherever I want. But you said
01:46:36.160
you'd, you'd be fine. Yeah. Not working. I mean, I'd be fine. So you'd end the relationship.
01:46:43.400
I wouldn't end the relationship. I just start working. So he doesn't have to work.
01:46:50.020
If we did have to move somewhere that was like inconvenient, like Nevada, I'm not moving to
01:46:54.660
Nevada. Even Vegas? I don't like Vegas. It's too, I just don't like it. So you're dating a guy who
01:47:01.280
makes a million dollars a year, everything taken care of. He's like, let's move to a major metropolitan
01:47:06.120
city that, okay, whatever. You don't like Vegas. Uh, you would, that's the end of the relationship.
01:47:13.380
If it's like somewhere like Southern Carolina or something, then no.
01:47:18.900
Well, I'm talking about Vegas. Well, I don't like Vegas. So yeah. Okay. So
01:47:22.780
well, I would start working and then I would provide for him.
01:47:34.440
So you would rather work a super stressful job. He just gets to kick it, lay back. He stops working
01:47:47.220
Vegas. Yeah. Like why would I want to live in Vegas? Why would you like all my work 10
01:47:52.200
hours a day? I don't know. It's not 10. I mean, for an anesthesiologist, you get to choose
01:47:55.920
your own times. Well, you said you're going to make a million dollars. You're going to
01:47:59.340
be having to work a fuck ton to make a million dollars as an anesthesiologist. It depends
01:48:03.620
on where it is. So California, you can probably work three to four days. Sometimes they have
01:48:07.680
call days. Nick, can you do anesthesiologists, Los Angeles, what's that website that is the
01:48:16.500
like salary thing? It's not a million dollars, but on the higher end, it can range up to like
01:48:22.860
800K, 900K. Yeah. But maybe after you've been doing it for maybe 10, 20 years, I don't think
01:48:28.860
immediately out of, look, I'm not an expert in the salaries of anesthesiologists right out. Is it
01:48:35.140
med school they go to? I don't know. Is it? I don't know. You can usually just. I think the
01:48:41.160
average, I mean, on the high end was, I think 400, 500K. I don't know about California, but just
01:48:46.280
anesthesiologists overall. Sure. Just Los Angeles is fine. While we're waiting for that, we have
01:48:53.940
Adzilla here. Let me hook it up. Hook it up. Thank you, Ad. Appreciate your patience there with the TTS.
01:49:01.580
Yes. He writes, appreciate it, bro. Here's 10. I agree. We have to try and get Gustavo back. Like
01:49:06.100
Andrew Wilson once said, he's the best. Yeah, we need to get him back. The offer's there, but
01:49:12.900
look, you know, there's a, it's really not a hard job. You just stand in the back. You don't say
01:49:17.160
anything. You look in the camera and you have to wear a military uniform. So anybody in Santa Barbara
01:49:21.920
who wants to basically be a male model for the whatever podcast, DM us. Jet Trooper, thank you, man.
01:49:38.600
Make it bigger? Okay. Median salary, just shy of 500,000. Yeah. Exile that. So I was right.
01:49:45.900
Well, initially you said a million. No, I said on the higher end. So there are people that make way
01:49:51.240
more than that. Well, it looks like, well, yeah, but like the top 90, the top 90% is 587,000. Yeah,
01:49:58.480
but I've spoken to some people that make 900, 800 K and it's a lot more than you think.
01:50:05.300
Okay. Well, I've spoken to billionaires. What? So no, I'm saying anesthesiologists. So I'm saying
01:50:11.140
the higher end is still like, it's not as rare as you would think. So I think those statistics are
01:50:17.580
you got to be in plant biology. Let's not assume. Oh, actually that's like my GPA is still pretty
01:50:24.260
good. Let's not assume that I would get into med school 100%. Like with those grades, if I keep
01:50:31.280
that up, one B is not going to ruin my life. All right. I mean, I don't know. It's on your
01:50:35.180
permanent record. It's on the permanent record. It's true. Fucking that shit's on the permanent
01:50:41.240
record forever. They're going to see that B and they'll be like, wait, why did she UCSB pretty good
01:50:46.460
school? But then she went down to Santa Barbara city college. They're going to be like, they're
01:50:49.920
going to be like, you know what? Yeah, but I could like be a nurse or something. I don't
01:50:57.380
know. That's not how it works. You know how many people go study biology in college with
01:51:04.260
the hopes of becoming a doctor and then, yeah, and then they don't become a doctor. Yeah.
01:51:09.140
It's super competitive. It is. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just a Debbie downer for you tonight. Yeah.
01:51:14.460
Yeah. Uh, and especially, especially anesthesiology. It's yeah. Either that or dermatology. Very
01:51:22.420
competitive, very competitive. Anyways. Uh, okay. So what about you? Your thoughts on
01:51:27.280
the video? Um, I personally don't want to be in a relationship like that, so I don't
01:51:33.160
agree, but I guess it's your twin flame. No, I actually wouldn't even do it for him
01:51:39.580
Girls won't do girls won't put in the bare minimum. No, because I, I see myself
01:51:44.400
billionaires. I see myself as more of like a leader than him. Anyway, I feel like he's
01:51:50.300
kind of toxic right now. You don't want to lead Drake. Okay. No, I mean mutual for us.
01:51:55.740
I'd say it would be, had to be mutual and I don't think he would want that. So I don't
01:51:59.040
know. Probably not. Um, what about you? What do you think? If I was just to stay home, chill
01:52:04.040
out, relax, you better believe I'm going with the hell. Uh, like you, I'm sorry. I can't
01:52:12.860
like, Oh yeah. Well, yeah. I just feel like if they're taking care of everything, why not?
01:52:20.860
I think that I would absolutely, I would obey my husband. I would be as submissive as I could
01:52:24.920
be. Good word. Obey. It's a good word. It's in my marriage vows. Oh, you're married,
01:52:31.200
right? Oh, we haven't gotten to that. Right. We're getting to the relationship status.
01:52:35.060
Uh, the bow video. Would you bow for, I don't want to say the perfect man. Would you bow
01:52:40.440
for a really good guy? If, if I really, really like, like them like a lot, then like, yeah,
01:52:49.180
like he's a good guy. So here's my thing is like, I feel like that's just like kind of
01:52:52.600
how I am. Unfortunately, like I'm very much like a girlfriend. So like, I don't know if
01:52:55.960
I was like really like down bad for a guy, then like, yeah, unfortunately I feel like
01:52:59.600
would you bow for a guy? For a billionaire. Yeah. For a, for a billionaire. Not a millionaire
01:53:05.440
though? Like a guy who made a million a year? No. You wouldn't bow? A millionaire, a million
01:53:11.500
cannot do that much in California. At least. I mean, a million is still in California. Very
01:53:17.720
good. Oh, it is. I don't think she doesn't. Okay. Uh, would you bow for a good guy that
01:53:25.580
you like? Um, yeah, I would bow for a guy I really liked and millionaires, billionaires,
01:53:30.920
like, you know, whatever to keep myself and them too happy. Guy who meets you in the ice
01:53:35.580
cream parking lot. No, not, it was like I had more feelings for him. Gotcha. What about
01:53:44.060
you? Would you bow for a good guy? A good man? Probably like, yeah, a billionaire, but
01:53:50.820
not like, like I could not, not like a, just like, what about a millionaire? I mean, like
01:53:59.200
how much? One million a year. He makes one million a year. One million a year. I know
01:54:03.880
it's not. Probably not. Probably not. No. Oh boy. Um, what, what's the threshold? Five
01:54:13.560
mil? Or like, ten? Ten mil a year. Ten mil. You'll, you'll do a bow? Yeah, I'd be submissive
01:54:24.100
and bow. But not for five mil? No. Seven mil? No. It's gotta be eight figures a year
01:54:31.080
for you. Yeah. Okay. Um, what about you? Would you bow for a good man? I would not. I feel
01:54:41.900
like, well, it depends. Um, if they pay me a lot, like per bow, then we can probably
01:54:53.440
Bruh. All right. Uh, what about you? Um, if he bows to me, then I'll bow to him. If
01:55:07.540
we bow together. Yes. Cause I already know that I'm going to have to be the main one making
01:55:14.260
decisions or at least it has to be equal in my personal relationship. I already know
01:55:17.700
this. So yeah. Okay. What about you? Um, so, uh, I would, um, yeah, I would. I think,
01:55:27.920
you know, I'm a lover girl. So like, honestly, like, you know, if you respect me, like that's
01:55:34.000
all that matters. If you respect me, you give me like whatever I want and you're just like
01:55:38.620
kind to me, then yeah. Like, you know, well, okay. A man's job is not to give you whatever
01:55:47.700
you want. Why not Brian? Exactly. Why not? It's not a man's job. Hey, look at them. They're
01:55:54.200
beautiful. They work hard. Someone might. What if a woman's want is unreasonable? It's never
01:56:00.800
unreasonable. The universal. What am I? I'm not. You're fucking troll. What is unreasonable
01:56:08.280
that is like, like for me, I would say like a pair of shoes, you know what I'm saying?
01:56:12.360
Something simple. It's not like too much. Yeah. What am I going to ask for? That's unreasonable
01:56:16.520
is my thing. Like I'm not going to ask for a mansion. She's been, she dated a guy for one
01:56:21.820
month. She asked for a $2,000 purse. Well, they broke up. Clearly it didn't work. Okay. Because
01:56:26.520
he didn't buy the purse. He was putting all of his money into sports betting. Like if
01:56:30.660
you can do all of that and you can't buy me one bag, like that's ridiculous. Well, some
01:56:34.860
people do that for entertainment, but some people make money off of that. Okay. And with
01:56:39.380
the money he made, what did he spend it on? I don't know if he made money. Exactly. Not
01:56:44.420
the girl he didn't take very seriously because you were only seeing each other for a month.
01:56:48.240
But that doesn't even make sense. Okay. The guy was spending money. The guy was spending
01:56:53.540
money on X, but he could have spent it on me. He could, he could have, therefore he
01:56:59.340
should have spent it on me. Is that the logic? Yeah. I mean, well, if it's for like gambling,
01:57:07.760
then I would say that maybe not anything, you know, like he can buy himself clothes or whatever.
01:57:12.720
It's his money. Have you bought anything for yourself recently? Um, yeah. That was pricey.
01:57:18.760
What was it? How much? Not recently, maybe months ago. Okay. Whenever. Um, I bought myself
01:57:24.000
a Dior bag. It was a pink and white one. $750. It was vintage. Okay. $750. You could have given
01:57:33.480
that $750 to charity. Why not? To what? To charity. Charity? What? I need a Dior bag more. I mean,
01:57:44.260
okay, wait, you need a Dior bag more than. Charities get a lot of money from like celebrities and famous
01:57:50.960
people. They get, yeah, like the hundreds of thousands of dollars and stuff. And honestly,
01:57:57.200
I'd rather give money to a homeless person than a corporation. Right. But you did have the money,
01:58:00.880
right? Yeah. So why didn't you just give it to charity? Because I, okay. I mean like to,
01:58:09.140
in whole, like, like to a homeless person. There are other charities besides those that do homeless
01:58:15.720
outreach. I don't trust. I don't know. I, they already get a lot of money from. There's plenty
01:58:20.200
of reputable charities. So your logic for dumping the guy was you don't care. You're an orthodox
01:58:24.680
Christian. You could have given it to the church as a tithe. Yeah. Do you tithe? Yeah. Every time I go.
01:58:31.120
When was the last time you went to church? Um, they don't have any here. So I wasn't able to go
01:58:36.700
last. Well, in Santa Barbara, they don't have any. They do have. They have multiple orthodox
01:58:42.560
churches in Santa Barbara. Not Ethiopian. Okay. Yes. Not Ethiopian. We go specifically to those
01:58:47.000
ones. Okay. Well, yeah, I guess you can't find that in Santa Barbara. Yeah. But there's other ways
01:58:52.660
to tithe. Okay. Like in what way? I'm sure churches accept money besides just like cash. You can send
01:59:02.540
them money. Well, I already do that when I go to church. Which was when? Like a year ago. Yeah.
01:59:10.700
Cause I've been here for a year. They don't have any here. No, I'm serious. Okay. Um, go ahead.
01:59:19.480
You had a point. Oh, um, so the whole point, right. So you dumped the guy cause he didn't care enough
01:59:24.380
about you to spend $2,000 on a purse. Well, why don't you care enough about charities who have,
01:59:28.860
you know, starving children, cancer kids, et cetera, to donate your money that, you know,
01:59:32.560
I do. And I do donate. Well, do you? I do. But just because, just because I want to spend my money
01:59:38.820
for myself, like treat myself, that doesn't mean that I don't donate to charities or homeless people.
01:59:44.020
I honestly give, like would rather give my money to homeless people. And I do that every time I see.
01:59:48.420
Would you spend $2,000 to buy a boyfriend a bag? To buy my boyfriend a bag? Yeah. Is he my
01:59:53.860
girlfriend? Why would I? Well, that's a double standard then, isn't it? You're being a hypocrite. Okay.
01:59:59.400
Brian, do you like bags? Do you like Dior, Chanel? No. What if he does? No? Okay. The average man
02:00:04.620
does not want that. I mean, I'm not dating, I'm dating a man, not a woman. Okay. I didn't sign up
02:00:11.280
to date a woman. If my man asked me to buy him a bag, then it's over. So you're just a financial
02:00:17.400
abuser. Okay. So how many men in your life are asking for a Chanel bag? Probably not as many as you.
02:00:24.740
Are you calling me a hoe? Maybe a little. Oh, yeah. That's not nice. I mean, you did
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dump a guy because he didn't buy you a $2,000 purse. Okay. That's kind of for the street
02:00:36.520
behavior. Oh, okay. Well, I don't know many men in my life. I don't really know any men
02:00:48.240
that want a $2,000 Chanel bag. We're exploring your logic of, okay, this guy you're seeing,
02:00:54.080
he's spending money on sports betting, but he could have spent that money the way you assessed
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it on something more worthwhile, which was buying you a very expensive bag. Right. So the logic
02:01:09.300
there is because he spent this money on that and I, in my opinion, deemed him spending that money on
02:01:18.240
that to be, uh, inappropriate or not the right thing he should be spending on, he should have
02:01:24.800
spent it on me. But then you could just apply this logic to almost anything. Okay. What's an example
02:01:31.060
then? Go ahead. When you bought your $750 Chanel bag or whatever, you could have spent that money
02:01:39.080
on perhaps something more worthy than a bag that probably costs $10 to make. And because you're a
02:01:45.840
consumer and, oh, it's got a brand name on it. When you can just buy some equivalent, you could buy a
02:01:52.680
bag of equivalent quality for like 20 bucks and he would achieve the same thing. It was a cute bag.
02:01:59.680
Yeah. And yeah, I always, like I donate to charity. I feel like I should be able to treat myself.
02:02:06.680
Okay, cool. And his sport betting was very cute for him. Like he enjoys it.
02:02:10.140
Oh, really? That's gambling. You support gambling? Was he good at it?
02:02:14.880
I don't gamble, but I don't see how that's relevant. But I mean, I don't really have any qualms with
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gambling. I mean, I personally don't do it, but unless you consider crypto gambling, maybe, I don't know.
02:02:28.020
Let's just say he was losing more than he made. So that was also another reason why I dumped him too.
02:02:35.520
Or it was part of the reason. So, so he just spends his money on gambling.
02:02:39.260
Yeah, but just because he takes losses in gambling doesn't mean that that money that he chooses to
02:02:44.520
spend ought to have gone to you. I feel like it would make more sense to do that.
02:02:51.020
Sure, it's possible it would make more sense, but he doesn't have to do it.
02:02:55.820
Well, I mean, if you're dating me, then I feel like you should.
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All right, I'm going to let George have some messages here. Thank you, George.
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Care five, don't count all of your chickens before they even hatch.
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Thank you. And thank you, man. You have another one coming through. So we're going to let that
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Shares one, two, three, four, five, six, and seven. You are all unworthy of a good man.
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But because there are millions of simps out there, you all stand a good chance of snagging
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Define poor. I said none of them were poor. Like poor thing or?
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I'm not sure, to be honest. I'm not sure. Okay. Here, we got a bit sidetracked here. Here,
02:04:15.520
I need to finish up the relationship status. Cam, that's two hours in the hour.
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More newly single. Last time I was on here, I was dating someone. We only dated about two
02:04:28.140
months because I found out that I was the rebound and I didn't know that he had just broken
02:04:32.240
up with her. I guess I should have asked, but I assumed it was longer because, yeah.
02:04:40.520
For about, I think, what? The last time I was on here, so three, four months, maybe?
02:04:46.000
A year and a half with, yeah. The Empiric Estus.
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So, I'm single. I've been single since April and my longest relationship would have been
02:05:03.580
No, no. That was when I was like younger. I was like 22 and then we lasted till.
02:05:16.980
He was not in a place stable, like a stable place where he didn't have like his own place. I actually
02:05:23.460
helped him out a lot. I did a lot for him. We kind of, but we kind of did a lot for each other
02:05:30.500
and like, you know, we, like he would help me out with like, like certain things like career wise
02:05:36.700
and stuff like that. And I was young too and I didn't really know much. I mean, I didn't really
02:05:40.780
grow up with my, both my parents. So, it was like, I kind of took care of myself. So, it was just like,
02:05:46.100
you know, I found a guy that I thought like was like amazing. Like he truly like, I would say he
02:05:52.540
loved, well, we loved each other, you know, but it just, it was just a brokey and like, yeah.
02:05:59.820
You said you've been single for five months. How long was that relationship?
02:06:03.540
That was five months. Yeah. Only lasted five months.
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But I realized that I was actually a brat. So, yeah.
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Definitely. I literally, um, I wanted a lot and I realized that he wasn't the type of guy
02:06:20.680
that was able to give me a lot, but he wanted to though.
02:06:23.880
And he was like definitely trying. And then after we got out of the relationship, I realized
02:06:29.180
that I was definitely in the wrong and I fucked up because I was like, damn, like he was treating
02:06:35.080
me so nice. Like he gave me everything. He always gave me flowers. He always gave me anything
02:06:39.840
I wanted. Every time I would send him like little TikToks, videos of like something that
02:06:45.080
was cute. He would just like provide that. And I just, yeah, when we broke up, it was
02:06:51.160
just like, I realized that I was nagging. I was a nagger. I was for real. I was like,
02:06:56.180
damn, I fucked up. But it's like, but it's honestly, yeah, I still, I, but I still realize
02:07:05.000
that like, even regardless of that, like, I still feel like, you know, whatever I wanted,
02:07:11.020
if he wasn't able to give me, it just showed me that he wasn't able to do that for me.
02:07:15.500
And that wasn't going to make me happy. So that wasn't going to make me happy. So yeah.
02:07:22.440
No, this one was mutual. This was the recent one that was mutual.
02:07:27.260
And you, you were self-aware. Well, after the relationship that you were being bratty.
02:07:32.940
So how would you be bratty? Can you give us like one or two examples?
02:07:35.340
Um, he bought me a pair of shoes for my birthday, but I actually, when we went to the store,
02:07:42.900
like a couple of weeks or maybe like a month before my birthday, I was like, oh,
02:07:47.380
these are the pair of shoes I want, like this, the color, the type, whatever. And when he gave
02:07:52.340
me the shoes, it wasn't exactly what I asked for. And I was just like, kind of like, in my head,
02:07:58.580
I'm like, so you're not listening to me, you know? And that was what made me think about like,
02:08:03.340
oh, are you really like listening to what I was talking about? And you're like, no,
02:08:09.340
because at least he got you the shoes. I know at least he got me the shoes, but that's what
02:08:12.360
I realized after, you know what I'm saying? But at the same time, I still think like if
02:08:17.540
someone really cares about you, they would listen to you. Cause I listened to shit he
02:08:23.500
liked, like I bought him some, something for his birthday and I knew exactly what he liked,
02:08:28.700
which, you know, he told me all the time. So, you know,
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It was like a cardio, like, how do you call it? I don't even know how to say it. It's
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like a specific type of, um, fabric. Cardigan? No, no. Cashmere. Cartier? Oh, it's like, um,
02:08:45.320
something like that. I don't know. But it was a specific type of fabric, like kind of
02:08:50.060
with clothing and stuff like that. And I bought it for him, you know? And I was just like, you
02:08:53.860
know, I just, I'm the type of person, like, if you give to me, like, I'll give to you. It's
02:08:57.460
reciprocation. Like, I feel like, yeah, I feel like it's, why not?
02:09:01.520
Yeah. So, yeah. Um, any other ways you were a bratty? You said you nagged him. How did
02:09:08.980
you nag him? Um, I was a bitch. I, like, I think I'm a bitch. Like, I could be a bitch.
02:09:16.120
I could be a real bitch sometimes. You were with him for five months, you said? Yeah. Here,
02:09:20.020
let's role play it. I'll be your. No, but I knew him. I've known him. No. Yeah. But I've known him
02:09:26.540
for a long time and we stopped being friends for a while. So, yeah. All right. We're going to role
02:09:32.480
play it. Okay. Pretend I'm your ex. Okay. Be bratty. Demonstrate the brattiness. Okay. I would
02:09:38.400
come in and be like, why is there no yellow flowers when I sent you that TikTok video of my flowers that
02:09:44.740
I wanted? Wait, actually? Yeah, Brian. What the fuck? Where are my flowers at? Uh, it was a rough
02:09:52.960
day at work. Okay. And? What does that got to do with me? We're over. I'm dumping you. But why?
02:10:08.340
And then I, I realized, I was like, wait, why would I do that? You know, it's just like, damn.
02:10:12.440
Um, yeah. Wait, so you'd walk through the door? Not immediately. Wait, did you guys live together?
02:10:17.620
We did for a little bit. Yeah. So you would walk through the door and what was the thing? Say it
02:10:22.680
again. The, the. My yellow flowers for my TikTok videos. God damn. For your TikTok videos? No. Cause
02:10:27.860
you know, it was like a, it was national flower day or whatever. And so he was supposed to get you
02:10:32.100
flowers? Yes. It was national girlfriend, something girlfriend. Wait, like, but you talked about it or
02:10:36.740
you were just expecting the flowers? No, we talked about it. We talked about it. Like I sent him a TikTok.
02:10:41.100
Every time I sent him a TikTok, he knows like, oh, this is, this is something. You send him a TikTok.
02:10:46.080
Yeah. And he's like an ATM machine and he pumps out the gift. No, not like that. I don't, I don't
02:10:51.640
really care. He's a vending machine. That's well, Hey, at least I realized he's Amazon. I want this.
02:10:58.160
Flowers are not that much. Yeah. Hey, flowers are not. I'm not asking for too much. I'm not asking for
02:11:02.720
bad. God damn. Here, give me another example. Give me another example. Put it, what you did
02:11:11.200
before was perfect. The same tone. Okay. Just how you said it to him in actuality. Give
02:11:17.160
me another example. Another example. Oh damn. I'm trying to think. Let's see. Cause when
02:11:22.200
I would do, honestly getting out of the relationship really may be like, he was a simp. Um, yeah,
02:11:32.460
he was definitely a simp, but give me, give me a role play. I'm trying to think, I'm trying
02:11:36.340
to think what, what else we, I would get mad at him. That you were being a brat about or nagging
02:11:40.460
him about. Uh, I was a brat. Yeah. You lived with him. Did he pay the rent? Yeah. He paid
02:11:46.000
for everything. Paid everything. Yeah. How old was he? Uh, 34. He was older. 34. Okay.
02:11:51.480
Yeah. He was a little bit older. Here, give me one. Role play it. Um, I'm trying to think.
02:11:59.240
I don't know. Oh, a bag of chips. I was like, damn, where's my bag of chips? He got me like
02:12:05.260
a different kind of bag of chips. Say it. Say it. How you said it though. Where the, what the,
02:12:09.800
oh wait, hold on. Okay. Let me. Breathe. Yes. Go for it.
02:12:16.000
Wait, what are these? Funyuns. No, this is, no, this is not what I asked for. Oh, what did you
02:12:23.780
ask for? I asked for Doritos. Why'd you give me Funyuns? They were all out. But I told you I wanted
02:12:30.920
to make this video and I needed Doritos. So why? Because you got to walk your ass to the fucking
02:12:35.680
supermarket. Well, I told you I wanted to go with you and you didn't let me go with you. It only takes
02:12:40.260
one person to get a bag of Doritos. Well, obviously, but that's why I asked you to go with you and you
02:12:45.540
don't want to go. First of all, I can. Second of all, I told you from the beginning, I was
02:12:51.280
like willing to go with you and you didn't let me go with you. You were like, oh no, it's
02:12:54.360
fine, babe. I'll go and I'll get you what you need. You didn't get me exactly what I wanted
02:12:58.280
and that's why I asked you. All you wanted was a bag of Doritos? Yeah, that's it. Why
02:13:02.460
is it so hard? Why the fuck am I going to the store just for a bag of Doritos? Why the fuck
02:13:05.660
are you not listening to me when I'm asking you for a specific item? If I, if I give you something
02:13:10.760
that you want exactly what you want, why wouldn't it be, why can't you reciprocate that? I don't
02:13:15.640
know why the, there shouldn't be any listening from both sides, right? I don't know. I kind
02:13:20.880
of think that you should just hop in the car and do it yourself. And I can. And I told you
02:13:27.460
I was going to. So fucking get your ass on down the road then. And I did. Oh, I was
02:13:36.700
still role playing. Oh, oh. Oh, um. Was he more of a baritone? He was a black guy too. Definitely,
02:13:42.440
yeah, definitely. Yeah, I like that. Very, um, simple. This might be like cultural preparation.
02:13:46.780
I probably shouldn't do it. Wait, do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.
02:13:51.580
Ryan, Ryan, you know, let your subconscious win. Let your subconscious win. No, I'm good.
02:13:57.380
I'm good. I'm crying. No, but yeah, I just feel like if, um, that just is a part of listening
02:14:03.400
and I feel like if you're not going to listen to me. Why is that wrong though? If I just talked
02:14:07.540
like a black guy, like other people can do like, like if a black person did like a, like
02:14:13.580
an accent from a European country or like a Southern white, like I wouldn't, that wouldn't bother
02:14:19.040
me, you know? Yeah. Did you, do you see Drewski's video or can we name it? Yeah. If you're
02:14:24.520
a comedian, that's okay. The comedians get a pass. That's it. Okay. No, comedians get
02:14:28.360
a pass, but I feel like, I feel like back in the day, this wasn't a thing where it was
02:14:32.680
like such an issue. Like people would call up like your mama shit. Like it was, it was
02:14:38.200
such like a chill vibe. Very sensitive. Yeah. Now it's like, everybody's like, everything's
02:14:43.000
an issue. I'm like, bro, shut the fuck up. Who cares? Can I do like a, can I do
02:14:46.960
like a Mexican? Is that allowed or not? I don't care. Just do a black one. Is anybody
02:14:53.460
here Mexican? I'm black. Do the black one. Are you Mexican? Are you Filipino? Sorry.
02:14:59.080
No, I'm white and Japanese. White and Japanese. Okay. No, I'm Mexican and Dominican. Oh, you're
02:15:05.420
Mexican Dominican. Okay. Yeah. I'm not going to do that shit. No, I really don't care. And
02:15:10.800
I think this nowadays, like everybody's so sensitive and it's just like, shut up. Like back in the
02:15:15.860
day, it was just like, bro, like everybody just said jokes all the time. It was always
02:15:20.120
fun. Shit. Back in the good times, man. It went from like one side of the pendulum to
02:15:24.900
the other where it's almost like everyone was like a little too carefree and now everyone's
02:15:28.620
like just super, super, like every little thing is like, has a different meaning to it.
02:15:33.500
A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. It was very, like 2017 to like
02:15:38.860
2024. 2020. I think 2020. 2020 was crazy. Like 2020 TikTok. That was the era. Okay. Relationship
02:15:50.140
status. Married. Married. How long? Been married for a month. Been together for four years. All right.
02:15:58.020
Is this your longest relationship? I had an on-off relationship for about six years as a teenager.
02:16:03.140
Okay. Got it. All right. Married for a month. Cool. All right. That's finally, that's maybe
02:16:10.620
the longest it ever took to get everybody's relationship status. We are going to get into
02:16:16.220
some of the notes from the panelists here. So we have starting with, let's go to Chloe.
02:16:26.460
Chloe, exotic car sales. You've traveled quite a bit, lots of traveling. Do I want to, you
02:16:36.940
said you've dated, this is why I got a bit confused when you gave your intro. You've, you've dated
02:16:41.340
genius type, elite type of guy, girlfriend, boyfriend relationship. But then when asked,
02:16:49.120
you said you haven't had a boyfriend. That was three months and he had a fiance. Like they are
02:16:57.660
long distance. His fiance was, uh, in UK and he's here and they both like know each other is doing
02:17:05.960
some other relationships. And we were like exclusive for three months. So maybe I'd call that boyfriend
02:17:12.800
girlfriend, girlfriend, girlfriend, but first it's very short, only three months, but we were exclusive.
02:17:18.780
I see. Yeah. But you didn't know if, tell me if I have this correct. You didn't know
02:17:25.780
that he had a fiance. Yeah, I didn't know. Okay. So that sucks. Um, but it was, that was the longest
02:17:33.780
period of time you dated guy three months. Uh, as boyfriend, girlfriend. Yes. What about
02:17:41.140
situationship? Have you dated guy, uh, for six months? For example, in the comments, they call
02:17:46.900
them sims. I don't know how I should call them. I call them guys. How about this? I mean, you call
02:17:51.560
them what? Just guys, boys, or sponsors. Sponsors. You've had a sponsor. Anybody else here, show of
02:18:00.180
hands, had a sponsor? Sugar daddy. Sugar daddy. Sponsor. Sure. Yeah. Sponsor. Kylie. No sponsors?
02:18:08.480
You don't want a sponsor. Do you want a sponsor? This close. Sponsor. Sugar daddy. Feet pics. Feet
02:18:16.020
pics. Kylie. No feet pics. All right. Feet pics. My husband says I should, but I don't. Don't do
02:18:23.280
that. It's just feet. I was this close to a sponsor. Okay. You said though, um, you dated
02:18:29.100
a 75 year old. Yes, I did. For how long? Uh, first it was three months. Then we took
02:18:40.720
a break and we caught up for another, like maybe five or six months. So like eight months
02:18:49.120
total. Okay. Was this in China? No, here. Korea? Here. Okay. Uh, you said all these men
02:18:56.480
though. You've had quite a few sponsorships. Sponsors. They all spent five to six figures
02:19:04.020
on you. Yes, they did. So how many total sponsors would you say you've had? 10, 20, 30?
02:19:14.700
In total? Yeah. Like in two years? About? Your whole life, I guess. I started here. Okay. So
02:19:21.940
yeah. Then two years. About 300,000. No, but how many, um, total men? In cash? Oh, men?
02:19:29.480
How many different sponsors? Well, first I kept them tracking, like I have a note, have
02:19:35.740
the names and when the number over 50, I just stopped tracking because it's getting a lot.
02:19:44.120
You've. Somewhere between probably 70? I'd say under 100.
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True. Different men? Yeah. Who have? Contributed.
02:19:53.420
Arrangement. Sponsored. Sugar daddies. Sugar daddies. Sugar daddies. Um, and all of them spent
02:19:59.380
between five to six figures on you? Uh, some at four digit point, but those people, I don't see
02:20:06.200
them regularly. Like if anyone, I see them over a month or two months, it will be definitely over
02:20:10.940
five figures. Uh, okay. And then you also wrote that one guy, he gave you two Porsche sports cars?
02:20:19.380
He didn't give me, uh, that many cars, but with his, uh, spawn, sponsorship, what should I say?
02:20:35.820
He didn't know the money go directly to the car.
02:20:38.320
Right. But he gave you money and then you ended up spending it on the car. I see. Okay.
02:20:42.740
Yeah. That's how much he gave. Uh, and then you have a brand new one. So you said that
02:20:46.320
the number, the total number that men spent on you in two years is $300,000. That's not
02:20:54.300
the same guy. Like. Yeah. All the men total. Is that correct? Almost. Yeah. 300,000 total
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in two years. Okay. And you said you dated over triple digit guys. So when you say triple
02:21:07.140
digit, you mean 100, over a hundred guys about, about a hundred. Okay. Um, lost track. Lost
02:21:13.900
track. How do you meet these guys? Uh, from seeking.
02:21:17.800
First time I, I learned about this site, I was only 18 years old and this site wasn't
02:21:25.600
even open, uh, at mainline China, but somehow they have ads and I saw those ads. I see.
02:21:33.140
And when I got here, I, uh, made a account, made a profile. Then the opportunities were just
02:21:40.080
there. And, and you said you only did this in the United States. Like you haven't done any
02:21:46.200
of this in China or elsewhere. Well, I'm only 25 years old and I spent like 18 years in mainland
02:21:53.320
China. Then I went to Korea for school and I didn't do that much in Korea. I'd say it very
02:21:59.560
depends because not everywhere people are, will be able to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but this
02:22:07.580
was all in the United States. Yes. And would it be people, cause you said you live in like
02:22:14.900
San Francisco area? San Jose. Yeah. Oh, like the Bay area. Yeah. Um, would it be people
02:22:21.260
in that area or would you get guys in different States, maybe even different countries contacting
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you? Well, the people in that area are the richest. Almost. The tech bros and all that
02:22:32.820
shit. Yeah. Yeah. So it was mostly in the Bay area. For sure. Yeah. Like is Silicon Valley.
02:22:40.980
Is that near the Bay? That's right. Is it like an hour away or something? Or I live in a
02:22:46.440
Silicon Valley. That's Silicon Valley. You live in Silicon Valley. Yeah. They call San Jose,
02:22:50.960
Santa Clara, uh, Mountain View, Sunnyville, all those places as Silicon Valley because we all
02:22:56.260
live in the Valley. I see. Okay. I, can we pull up a map of San Francisco? It's like,
02:23:03.820
all right, we've got Santa Barbara. Then there's like Santa Cruz and then San Francisco. I was
02:23:06.880
keeping a low key the whole time because. You were, sorry, low key what? I was keeping
02:23:11.180
a low key the whole time because they don't know about each other when I hang out with some
02:23:15.600
guy and they will assume they are the only one I'm seeing. Do they give you cash? Uh.
02:23:22.040
Uh. Like how they pay you? Checks. Yes. Checks? Mm-hmm. Transfers, checks. Cash ever?
02:23:28.960
What do you mean cash? Like paper cash? Yeah. Like dollar bill. Yeah. Sometimes. Okay. Would you also,
02:23:36.360
in addition to just, so they would just give you money, right? In addition to that, would they also
02:23:40.820
get you gifts? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sometimes. Like here is a purse. Mm-hmm. Here's, I don't know, what,
02:23:50.900
what do, what do guys buy women that are simps? What do they get? What do they get? Shoes, purse. Shoes?
02:23:59.340
Wallet on. Shoes. Jewelry? Jewelry. Oh, yeah. Is there anything, any jewelry on you that a guy paid for?
02:24:04.980
No. Okay. Because I don't want them to know I spent money on jewelries because no matter how much
02:24:11.320
they give me, they don't like the ideas. Girls spending their own money or whoever, girl spent
02:24:17.040
money on jewelries, on purse, and I know exactly what they think. I play along them. I don't play
02:24:23.220
against them. That's how I get it. What do they think? So I can buy jewelers myself. Like as long as I
02:24:28.280
got the jewelry, no matter they gifted me what I got it myself, the result is good. So how many
02:24:34.960
you said in total, anywhere from over a thousand to over six figures, over a hundred men, about
02:24:43.620
a hundred men have been your sugar daddy, spent money on you, whatever. How many have spent
02:24:50.240
over five figures? I figure we're talking about like 10,000, right? 10,000 and up. Yeah.
02:24:57.200
Maybe 10,000 to 15. How many have spent six figures or more? Six figure, we're talking
02:25:06.900
100,000. So 100,000 or more? No one. Oh, no one. Oh, okay. Yeah. The most, that guy, he gave
02:25:13.700
me about maybe 80 or 85K, the 75. We'll skip Nick. The guy who paid you the most, you said
02:25:20.840
80,000. It's the oldest one. The 75 year old. Yeah. And what was, how long did you see
02:25:27.460
him for? I was a little bit worried before getting here. Oh, you still see him? Because
02:25:32.540
he, yes. When's the last time, how, okay. So he's paid you multiple times. Like one day,
02:25:40.360
here's a thousand, here's 10,000, here's a whatever. When's the last time he sent you
02:25:45.140
money? Last month. Is it white guy? Yes. These white, white guys, man, fucking up, fucking shit
02:25:57.460
up. Um, and are you here on a, like a work visa or do you, what do you? Uh, no, I, I have
02:26:05.560
my status. Like I can legally work and live here. Is it like a visa though or? Uh, no,
02:26:12.020
it's like a valid status. What's that called? Um. I don't know. Citizenship? You're, how
02:26:19.280
would she? Yeah. Green card? Like on the way to getting the green card. Yeah. Because
02:26:27.440
I don't have to get a green card to stay, but on the way to get. Yeah. Do your parents
02:26:31.900
know what you do for work? My mom knows. Well, not, not the car sales, but the. Yes. My
02:26:37.220
mom. Arrangement. My mom knows about everything. Are your parents still together? Yes, they
02:26:41.740
are. And they live in China? Yes. They were married at 19 or 20 years old. They met at 19
02:26:47.380
years old. They were each other's first love. Okay. Then they've been married the whole
02:26:52.080
time, like about 30 years. Did you, uh, did you hook up with the 75 year old? What do you
02:26:56.600
mean hook up? Uh, sex. Did you have sex? Yes. It's very brief for him because giving
02:27:03.540
all the conditions. Yes. We did. You, it's brief. Like, uh, I'd say time is short. Maybe
02:27:15.520
30 seconds or one minute. Oh, the, the sex. Yeah. It's very, it doesn't last long. It's not
02:27:21.580
that frequent. He doesn't have that much, you know, strong. He doesn't have
02:27:25.460
libido. Yeah. I get it. How many times have you had sex? He for sure doesn't want
02:27:32.600
to hear this. It's okay. Uh, how many times have you guys hooked up? Maybe 10 times, 20
02:27:42.040
times. Maybe like 15 to 20, 15 to 20. Okay. Um, and then you said you've, you've done this
02:27:52.660
with about a hundred other men. Do you also sleep with them too? Yes. Most often. Most
02:27:59.480
often, not all the time, but yeah, not all the time. Okay. Good to know. Um, so how many
02:28:06.600
of the, about a hundred have you had sex with? More than half. So 50, 60. Well, first
02:28:15.060
is, it's not exactly 100, maybe somewhere at 70. Okay. Sure. 70 to 100. So maybe you've
02:28:23.100
slept with 40 of these guys. I say at least 50, at least 50 of them. Okay. I see. Okay.
02:28:32.920
Um, and do you? I'm surprised too. Imagine that. I'm not surprised. In two years. In two
02:28:41.020
years? Yes. I was a virgin before I. Wait, you were a virgin? Yes. You lost your money
02:28:46.040
as a sugar baby? Or wait, your virginity. Wait, so wait, question. Here's the, I guess
02:28:52.660
here's the clarifying question. The guy you lost your virginity to, was it a guy you met
02:28:58.720
on seeking? No, he's not. Was it for love? He's that boyfriend, girlfriend kind of situation.
02:29:05.220
The fiance, the guy who had the fiance, he was cheating. Yes. Um, but how, did he spend
02:29:12.580
money on you too? Yeah, he did. Okay. And that guy was younger than me. Oh, I'm cougar over
02:29:20.500
like I was 20. You're 23. I am 25 right now. You're 25. Yes. I was like 22 and a half
02:29:29.260
and he was 22. He's like nine months younger than me, but he, he for sure doesn't want to
02:29:34.140
hear this too, but he, uh, he's an engineer and at Google. Yeah. Oh, big tech, big Google,
02:29:43.060
big tech. Like AI? Is he, was he? Something like Google, but not Google. He's a tech bro
02:29:49.360
in Silicon Valley. No, Silicon Valley was in Austin. Where? Austin, Texas. Oh, okay.
02:29:56.200
That's the, I met him the first week I got in the States. First week you move here. Yeah.
02:30:02.460
By the way, did you learn English while you were here or had you already been learning English?
02:30:06.460
I've been learning English like in China? My whole life. Whole life. Okay. I had my English
02:30:10.140
teacher when I was three years old. I see. Okay. Uh, and by the way, are your parents, are
02:30:16.240
they wealthy? I don't know how, how wealthy is wealthy. Like if for Chinese standards? I
02:30:27.440
wouldn't say so. It's not that much. Okay. What city did you live in in China? It's a small
02:30:32.940
town. Okay. So I, I, I probably wouldn't have not like Shanghai or Beijing or anything like
02:30:38.320
this. No. Okay. Um, so you lost your virginity to not one of the men you, you, but shortly
02:30:49.680
after you lost your virginity very soon after. Like even when I'm seeing, I was seeing him
02:30:55.800
and I started seeking. Oh, while you were dating him, you were doing this. Oh, so you were cheating
02:31:01.880
on him too. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, I guess that's fair then. Uh, it balances out in the universe
02:31:10.660
or some shit. Um, okay. Oh, we have a message here. Um, you know what pasty, I, I'm going
02:31:18.080
to, I have to wait a little bit to let this come through, but I'll have it come through.
02:31:21.700
I do see it. Um, so, okay. Have you, besides the guy who was, had a fiance, tech bro, whatever,
02:31:33.520
have you dated anybody for, for genuine romantic love or anything like that?
02:31:40.680
I wanted to, they don't want to give commitment.
02:31:43.180
They just want what? They said, Oh, I want to chill. We are just hanging out. Um, I'm not
02:31:51.000
ready to get in a relationship. And he's, he even said something like, uh, whoever other
02:31:56.800
people are in relationship because they don't respect relationship that much. Like he's giving
02:32:02.300
me bullshit excuse, excuses. And you did not meet this guy on seeking. We met at work.
02:32:09.220
Meta work. Okay. Um, but during that time you were seeing that guy, were you also doing
02:32:21.360
It's very, very recent. Like right now it's still.
02:32:24.480
Oh, you're still talking to the guy? You're talking to this guy.
02:32:31.140
Oh yeah. But so you're doing seeking stuff also.
02:32:39.220
I wanted to take a break. I think it's becoming overwhelmed.
02:32:49.040
Overwhelmed because, and also I can't afford to take a break to maintain my, like to maintain
02:33:03.500
Um, have you ever been flown somewhere by a guy?
02:33:17.320
Um, but you said you have $300,000 in savings in just two years from all the money these men
02:33:26.240
I spent some of them and, uh, I say half of my savings from my dad.
02:33:32.020
But in total, in terms of what the men spent on you, you said $300,000?
02:33:43.140
Um, you said that the show seems legit and righteous.
02:33:50.300
You said you have your own ideas, maybe not aligned with majority opinion.
02:34:01.500
And in my opinion, what I brought, what I'm bringing to the table is giving them chance.
02:34:20.480
And the only thing, what things can separate them?
02:34:30.420
I think we're at a point in history, gentlemen, where men should do as little as possible
02:34:43.700
These women, they're getting fucking paid money and shit.
02:34:48.260
Got freaking Orthodox Christian girl over here asking for fucking $2,000 bags.
02:34:55.400
You just, I'm telling you guys, look, I'm not trying to be a doomer here.
02:35:00.760
I think it's time, us men, we got to get into, and I think one of you had a note on this,
02:35:11.540
We can't be doing all this shit for these women, bro.
02:35:18.460
Well, I don't like what she's doing, but I like what, okay, that's not making sense.
02:35:24.000
Guys, she's just, she's kind of going with the flow.
02:35:28.940
Ice cream parking lot, let's get in my car, boom.
02:35:48.060
She's wise beyond her ears, but not really, but she is.
02:35:52.560
I'm just saying, why, why us men got to do all this shit when we got gems?
02:36:10.500
Wait, you didn't even get the ice cream, right, Kylie?
02:36:28.380
Unless you, unless you both mutually agree beforehand that it's both just sex and you
02:36:32.620
both agree on that beforehand, we should all want offerings because we are temples.
02:36:41.120
So that's why, that's why we have to reciprocate it.
02:36:50.660
But, you know, I can, I can at least respect it.
02:36:55.120
You're saying I can respect, but you're not respecting it.
02:36:58.300
Like, these dudes spending thousands of dollars on fucking Missy the Yopi over here.
02:37:09.740
She's basically, no offense, you're basically a prostitute.
02:37:12.280
And you're looking for love in all the wrong places, like the song.
02:37:25.760
Once I can, you know, I feel comfortable standing on my own feet.
02:37:30.180
Once I can breathe, not, you know, struggle to live, to live a life.
02:37:37.360
I'm just going to say this as a guy, the goal, this might sound terrible, the goal should
02:37:44.640
be that the woman genuinely has desire for you, genuinely has desire for you, and isn't
02:37:52.340
going to make you jump through all these hoops for you to sleep with them.
02:37:59.820
But guys are not being that genuine, like, sincere at the same time.
02:38:06.100
Like, women and men, they are just wired differently.
02:38:11.040
Well, yeah, but you got to establish yourself as a man to the point where you don't have,
02:38:21.980
I mean, your situation is kind of, kind of unique.
02:38:27.240
Well, that's just very ideal because there are different girls out there and different
02:38:39.940
I mean, the longer I take, the more they will spend before getting something.
02:38:46.520
The longer I take to get to know them or to date them, the more they will spend.
02:39:01.160
Because those guys, I'm going to say they are dumb, they are all smart.
02:39:03.680
Look, the guys who sign up for that website seeking, they know what the deal is.
02:39:13.400
The girls make themselves available and the men pay them money.
02:39:18.920
But, if we're just talking about normal dating dynamics, shit, you're going to pay, I don't
02:39:29.540
I think the man's goal, you might hate this, the man needs to spend as little as possible
02:39:42.280
If you're paying for the pussy, she ain't going to respect you.
02:39:44.880
Now, if she's a prostitute, well, you shouldn't see prostitutes.
02:39:54.720
You guys are just calling yourselves prostitutes.
02:39:59.920
I have dated guys that literally, you give them that, and then they're like, alright,
02:40:07.560
Because they get used to it, and there's guys like that out there, and you can't tell
02:40:12.820
I personally believe, if I'm sleeping with a girl, it's not worth my time to sleep with
02:40:23.120
If I'm sleeping with a girl, I want there to be continuity.
02:40:30.240
You're one of one, but I'm telling you, there's a lot of guys right now that I'm like, bro...
02:40:42.500
But so there's the thing is, as opposed to what?
02:40:47.900
That's not me saying I go out and do that, but legitimately, I've heard that argument
02:40:55.880
Because why is it worse to sleep with someone for absolutely nothing versus someone doing
02:41:04.740
It would be the social stigma of the fact that you're basically engaging in prostitution.
02:41:12.660
There's a stigma around it no matter what, though, whether or not you're sleeping with
02:41:17.440
So, sure, I would agree that just like engaging in rampant promiscuous sex, like less than
02:41:32.980
You could argue from the female perspective, well, if you're just going to fuck a bunch
02:41:37.320
of guys anyways, okay, just make money doing it.
02:41:54.380
Most of the time, we give them spiritual knowledge.
02:41:56.680
And, like, help them spiritually on things that they don't have because...
02:42:03.720
If we fucked, you're going to tell me, oh, Brian, in a past life, you were fucking...
02:42:13.680
You'll start making more money if you do it the right way.
02:42:24.060
Yeah, because everybody else got to talk about this but me.
02:42:27.460
So, I was able to help him get a better job, more days at work, just by having sex with
02:42:35.440
And, like, intentionally doing it and he's literally working.
02:42:38.620
And he even said, I'm making more money with you than anybody else I've been with.
02:43:33.860
So if you're just getting a bunch of pussy from all over the place...
02:43:40.620
To either get in good shape or get your money right or whatever.
02:43:50.740
There's never been a situation where I'm like...
02:44:12.220
Well, you kind of are saying that because you're saying like...
02:44:24.380
All they crave is pussy and the undisciplined ones do just...
02:44:33.680
I'm just saying we got some girls at the table fucking wanting a guy to spend all this money
02:44:39.940
Yeah, if I'm helping him make doubled and tripled than what he was making before we met and
02:44:51.720
Emperor Augustus, because I loved him and his real love, I paid $4,000 for a rent and
02:44:56.120
he didn't help me and I bought groceries and I paid for gas.
02:44:59.440
I'm never doing that ever again, but I'm just saying like I'm the type of person where
02:45:04.040
That's why I broke up with all of them because they weren't doing enough.
02:45:30.180
But for me, I'm just so magical and like too beautiful for most of them and that's why
02:45:36.520
Yeah, magical, too beautiful, too loving and they don't reciprocate it enough.
02:45:40.860
That's why I've had to break up with every guy.
02:45:43.920
No, I never dated him because he was scared of me.
02:45:57.780
And it's actually really insensitive and we should probably start talking shit to you
02:46:03.600
We should all start talking shit to you guys more because it's really rude to people.
02:46:07.780
I do have the twin flame relationships because it's really hard.
02:46:10.060
It's harder than a normal soulmate relationship.
02:46:13.180
Are you feeling a bit upset about my criticisms?
02:46:15.120
Because you guys are insensitive and it's like, it's really rude.
02:46:19.320
You're insensitive and I should bully you more for it and we all should for each other
02:46:29.380
Whether you believe it or not, you don't have to be rude about it.
02:46:31.360
You don't have to all be rude about it like you do most of the time.
02:46:40.620
...your spiritual awakenings and how you fucking dated Abraham Lincoln or some bullshit.
02:46:58.400
How do you prove it that you dated fucking Abraham Lincoln or some shit?
02:47:01.640
The universe knows I don't have to prove anything and I'm not going to.
02:47:09.660
I've been able to talk to the dead since I was born.
02:47:13.620
I actually used to see them, but I told them not to come to me like that anymore.
02:47:16.200
Do we need a fucking Ouija board here right now?
02:47:27.860
So, I mean, there's some that could just tap into those dimensions where they can connect.
02:47:36.720
No, like genuinely, arguably, like we're all like energy.
02:47:42.920
This is moving at like science says like straight up that this is moving.
02:47:46.920
That this is moving at like a different rate of energy and motion than we are, which is
02:48:04.780
Like, I mean, a little bit, I guess you could say, but really, I just came from my first
02:48:14.060
So, technically, I am an alien, but like I am here as a human and I did lose all my memory.
02:48:18.760
Now, I'm like gaining it back, but that's why it's easier for me to do this than other
02:48:23.920
Have you got anybody seen that shit on Netflix?
02:48:30.320
That foot with fucking Kevin Spacey from like 2001?
02:48:39.500
I mean, it's not bad, but I just don't want to say.
02:48:44.780
I just don't know where I was exactly first, but I'm assuming.
02:48:48.860
It was the sun, and there's a dimension on the sun that I was on first.
02:49:00.060
Yeah, but on our dimension, yeah, but there's other dimensions spiritually.
02:49:03.500
That we can't really see in this one that's, I mean, you can if you're me, but some people
02:49:15.340
I mean, there's tons, there's like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of movies about
02:49:18.360
this, and they can't just pull it out of nothing.
02:49:26.100
Every work of art has to exist, because it has some basis in reality.
02:49:29.500
Not that all of it is 100% true, but in order for it to exist, it has to have.
02:49:35.360
Everything you see is based off a reality, and most of the time, it's my reality, so
02:49:38.980
that's just, that sucks, but I mean, it's fun too.
02:49:43.040
It sucks when they paint me out as someone I'm not.
02:49:49.280
So we're currently all being used as a really inefficient means of energy for like robots?
02:49:55.120
No, that's the, the reason why I don't like the movie the most is because it only
02:49:59.240
focuses on the negative side, and that's not realistic.
02:50:03.800
Like you have the negative, positive, like angels, demons, all helping us or taking our
02:50:11.240
It's not just one side, but The Matrix movie, since I think he took the red pill, that's
02:50:17.020
But if you would take the blue, then you would only see like the good, and if you take both,
02:50:31.180
I've been on here so many times, and we never talked about this.
02:50:34.680
Wait, so what happens if you take the red pill?
02:50:40.440
If you take, if you take the blue pill, you would just like see things more in a good
02:50:48.160
You wouldn't see as much good as there actually is happening in reality.
02:51:04.420
Women are supposed to be the primary gatekeepers to their temple.
02:51:14.360
More guys have higher body counts than women nowadays.
02:51:19.020
So we should have more because it's harder for guys to get it.
02:51:21.660
But most of the time when I meet one, they have more than me.
02:51:30.380
You saying that you can stop any time you want is the same thing that alcoholics and
02:51:44.020
I don't think he's living his good life because there's nothing else better for him to do
02:52:15.700
Going around the table, does a bowl of cereals and milk qualify as a dish of soup?
02:52:23.300
Brian, thank you for everything you do for men all around the world.
02:52:29.360
So is a bowl of cereal with milk, is that soup?
02:53:28.040
If it's like bread and meat and then it's a sandwich.
02:53:31.680
You could put mayo and mustard in it, so it's like, bro, it's the same thing.
02:53:35.560
So the only thing that makes it a sandwich is something between two pieces of bread.
02:53:41.820
It's like this close to being spam, though, isn't it?
02:53:46.480
Christopher, a real woman, wouldn't mind spending a whole day in the woods looking for the coolest
02:53:51.180
stick for their boyfriend husband, scratches back whenever he wanted, and pick at his
02:54:14.340
I'm just saying, I guess going back to my point about men need to be in their princess
02:54:19.300
prince treatment era is at no other point in human history, don't be offended, have women
02:54:28.840
brought less to the table and been less deserving of all the traditional treatment y'all want.
02:54:36.900
So I'm just saying, if you guys aren't going to hold up your end of the bargain, men shouldn't be doing all this shit.
02:54:57.940
And if the woman's not reciprocating what you want as a man, then that's when you walk away.
02:55:05.120
In a traditional, more relationship or where he has more masculine energy than her.
02:55:26.560
You know, most women don't come and they actually admitted this.
02:55:54.620
What I'm saying is not all women can come like 10 times or whatever.
02:56:04.200
But there are some women that come within 30 seconds.
02:56:10.640
That's as a, but 99, and I've encountered that a fair amount.
02:56:38.680
Your legs are fucking quivering and shaking and shit.
02:56:43.560
You deserve a little bit more than most guys because you could do that.
02:56:51.200
But y'all definitely, like if we're talking about who can enjoy sex more, by far women.
02:56:57.480
Who has the capacity to like, I mean, women, but who does?
02:57:01.160
How many different kinds of orgasms do women have?
02:57:14.900
Some of y'all just be coming fucking 10 seconds.
02:57:25.240
Like also for a guy to be good in bed, that's way harder.
02:57:29.300
It's very, it's not hard for a woman to be good in bed.
02:57:32.220
Honestly, most guys are just happy to get some pussy, but like, and here's, here's why
02:57:38.260
as a woman, like you could just, we could just put you in a position and you don't have
02:57:52.680
A guy could put you in doggy style and you just stay there.
02:57:58.160
And that's what most guys do, but they don't care about the woman coming.
02:58:06.900
We can put you in doggy style and we can, you don't have to move at all.
02:58:12.580
And we can make ourselves come just by you being there, but the reverse typically isn't
02:58:21.740
If a guy was just had a stiffy and you put him in whatever position you want him to be
02:58:26.820
in, but he can't move, whether it's doggy or you're on top, whatever it is.
02:58:31.960
Most women couldn't make themselves come just from that.
02:58:52.240
Like, what about, like, don't stop means stop doing what you're doing.
02:58:57.380
Well, see, the way men fuck it up, the woman indicates that whatever's happening, the woman
02:59:08.520
will indicate, okay, whatever the guy's doing is good, and then he'll, like, switch it up.
02:59:15.560
He'll speed it up, and he'll fuck the whole thing up.
02:59:24.240
But the point, I guess the point I was trying to make with the previous thing is, is it's
02:59:28.700
just, a woman can make herself calm, like, in that scenario I described, but it's way
02:59:33.940
more common for the guy to be able to reach climax than the reverse.
02:59:36.860
So it's just harder for, to be good in bed as a man.
02:59:39.660
And also, like, it's hard to be bad in bed if you're a woman.
02:59:52.800
Like, it, it, bad pizza, it's still, it's, it's pizza.
03:00:27.120
If they're paying, if they're paying you is what you're saying.
03:00:45.180
Roman, I don't know much about the Roman Empire.
03:01:22.680
How are you going to ask me these questions and you don't even know?
03:01:26.060
What do you think about the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact?
03:01:33.560
Because they are making topic, they want to make clips.
03:01:38.640
The only thing they know is asking for shit and they don't know anything about history.
03:01:48.600
Almost all First Nations women can still hunt, fish, and skin animals.
03:01:53.900
Most can survive in the wilderness and make a fire without matches or a lighter.
03:02:06.060
Luckily, I feel like if I threw a guy out in the woods and told them to, like, make a fire, they'd start crying.
03:02:15.220
Because Brian says that they need the princess treatment.
03:02:20.540
We need to be in, us men need to be in our princess era right now because.
03:02:29.720
Make a fire and fucking go in the woods and do shit.
03:02:35.580
If a man was like, do you want to learn how to hunt and fish?
03:02:42.760
Those are some pretty basic survival skills, I feel like.
03:02:45.100
You know, fishing, cooking, hunting, et cetera, skinning stuff.
03:02:49.380
I learned how to skin and fish and I was like, hey.
03:03:01.660
He didn't even give a context as to why he said that.
03:03:08.480
How is anything I'm saying narcissistic if it's just the truth and if it's just.
03:03:14.120
It's not like I'm manipulating people like a lot of you and actually use my ego, which is a real
03:03:25.160
Like sometimes I do know pretty fast, but it really takes a while.
03:03:27.900
Do you need to like hold his hands or some shit?
03:03:32.420
So my friend, she spent the night with me in the bed.
03:03:39.960
And who her twin flame is because apparently she also has one.
03:03:43.600
So, yeah, I could even just them sleeping near me, holding hands maybe one day if it
03:03:53.520
I don't know if I want to do all that, but maybe.
03:04:18.620
At least you didn't talk about it and it just was on there for a little bit and then it went
03:04:27.180
It was like she's the only one that deserves to be married.
03:04:36.520
Jet, you're going to have to send another one in.
03:04:39.420
Tell me what your name was that you sent the chat under and I'll take a look.
03:05:48.900
We have a message that, unfortunately, because our stream yard is not working, we can't pull
03:06:03.720
What do you rate your own looks on a scale of one to ten?
03:06:41.240
I always say ten because I look like how I wanted to look.
03:06:58.640
A very attractive panel that we have tonight then.
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To the tens at the table, you're going to draw my ire for a moment.
03:07:14.480
Someone would probably say I'm a six, but I think ten personally.
03:07:20.100
I want you to name a woman, like maybe a celebrity, who you think is a ten.
03:07:31.240
You know, what's her face that plays Fiona Gallagher from Shameless?
03:07:55.200
So just to be clear, those of you who said ten, and you gave us a ten of another woman who
03:08:01.540
you think is a ten, you guys are just saying you're just as good looking as Megan Fox,
03:08:07.020
I mean, she's trying to be like me, siphon off my energy, so sure.
03:08:09.940
Bro, Megan Fox doesn't know who the fuck you are.
03:08:15.120
And if you want, I can call out a lot more people if you want to get there.
03:08:21.440
All the Masons, all the Illuminati, every single one.
03:08:23.520
And I actually wrote that, so we can talk about that later.
03:08:35.020
If I ever met these people, if I met any of these women, and I was like, hey, do you
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Because why are they doing black magic on me when I love them?
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And it's like, they shouldn't be, they should just be my friends, but it is what it is.
03:08:55.460
So, okay, just as good looking as Megan Fox, just as good looking as Zendaya.
03:09:14.460
Wait, come back to me too, because I need a moment to think about it.
03:09:45.340
Like, I don't, like, the only, like, I don't know.
03:09:51.980
I feel like my type, I, like, I don't, I don't know.
03:09:57.940
Like, like, like, alt, like, Twinkie, like, very.
03:10:03.100
I, arguably, most of the time, date men that, like, probably, like, look, like, a little,
03:10:15.680
Wait, are you saying that because of her looks?
03:10:17.500
No, like, it was to the point where, like, anytime, like, my friends, like, we drive by someone skinny,
03:10:23.540
they'd be like, look, it's your man on the side of the road.
03:10:26.460
Because I said, like, if he looks like he's going to float away in the wind, it's probably
03:10:38.620
Because I, like, when I think of, like, woman, like, attractive woman, I can name you,
03:10:41.880
And, like, I'm sitting here, like, trying to think of men.
03:10:45.740
I think the first thing that comes to mind is probably Jason Momoa.
03:10:52.220
I think I just like more, like, feminine-appearing men.
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I can't get down with, like, a big nose, but, like, big eyelashes and, like, nice eyes.
03:11:05.200
I dated a guy who took better care of his hair than me, and I think it was a red flag.
03:11:13.640
I just, like, I say pan because it's, like, I'm open to anything.
03:11:16.500
Like, it's literally, I don't care if I'm attracted to you, then I'm attracted to you.
03:11:20.740
I just, like, if I'm attracted to you, it doesn't really matter what you have going
03:12:18.200
Everyone just, like, stopped talking about him.
03:12:22.860
Well, okay, like, hot take, but, like, I look, he don't think that he did it.
03:12:31.580
Like, he still hasn't been convicted or, like, face trial or anything, like, legitimately.
03:12:34.500
But it's just because, like, there's, like, inconsistencies that I've seen, like, coming up.
03:12:40.500
Like, I do weird, like, I like, like, looking into things like that.
03:12:43.500
And I don't mean, like, hot take, like, he definitely didn't do it.
03:12:46.220
But, like, there's low-key, like, a chance that he did it.
03:12:49.000
But I think that's why most women like him more, because they think that he did do it.
03:12:59.000
I haven't focused on it too much, but it could be some type of setup, because he's in, like, Diddy's cell.
03:13:06.300
Like, not his cell, but he's, like, it's the same lawyers and the same case, and it was, like, around the same time.
03:13:15.120
But if he did do it, I think that's why most women like him more.
03:13:22.100
I don't really, I didn't care about the situation.
03:13:24.160
But I think it may have been a, it may not have been him.
03:13:33.560
I've dreamt about a lot of other things that happened, but.
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Okay, this is all I have to say, is if he was being honest about, like, wanting to change, I don't think he's going to get convicted for that long.
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But if he wasn't being honest, I think he's going to face a lot of time.
03:13:51.980
So, I guess we'll see what happens, because, yeah, I can't say too much.
03:13:57.180
I feel like I wouldn't want to go to bed again.
03:14:13.360
Because if so, if he wanted help and he's being honest, I think he'll get out sooner.
03:14:17.760
Like, you mean, like, because all the shit he was doing, he wasn't, like.
03:14:23.820
He wasn't in total control of what even he was doing.
03:14:29.860
Some dark stuff that we don't need to talk about.
03:14:36.880
What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
03:14:51.080
I dated someone, like, fully, like, on Social Security and, like, unemployed.
03:15:07.320
My mom's, like, the primary breadwinner in my family.
03:15:13.780
Dude, I feel like, yo, if I really loved you and, like, McDonald's is, like, your shit,
03:15:22.060
I feel like everything I seem, like, really indifferent or, like, devil's advocate.
03:15:25.080
But it's literally just because I'm, like, like, at the end of the day, like, I feel
03:15:29.580
like I'm only here to, like, to live and to, like, love other people.
03:15:32.860
To, like, just experience life and to, like, be a good person.
03:15:40.640
We're going to come back to that in just a moment.
03:15:50.060
You said the guy that you think is a 10 is the guy who murdered the healthcare CEO?
03:15:58.680
And I just said my type of guy is, like, generally, like, more, like, feminine.
03:16:11.040
Well, because I said, like, I said, like, Twinkie men.
03:16:13.600
And she said, what do you think about Luigi Manchino?
03:16:18.100
Would any girl here, like, date him knowing what he did?
03:17:10.460
To be attracted to somebody who quite clearly assassinated somebody.
03:17:21.280
When is it ever the right reason to assassinate somebody?
03:17:27.220
I mean, personally, I would not physically take matters in that way.
03:17:30.700
I don't care what you would do, but you would date the guy who...
03:17:33.740
Isn't that because women now, or I feel like women in general want, like, the bad boy, quote-on-say?
03:17:42.820
But I feel like that's just more related to, like, probably trauma.
03:17:47.360
You know, like, just, like, people having dysfunctional things happen growing up and, like, reflect.
03:17:53.080
I feel like everyone acting out is a reflection of, like, something going wrong.
03:17:59.600
Trauma has a lot to do with, like, the type of guy you want to go for.
03:18:02.480
Well, it can be, but, I mean, there could also be, like, a, to some degree, a biological evolutionary explanation for why women are attracted to violent men or dangerous men.
03:18:14.880
I mean, I can see, like, theoretically how that would be beneficial in, like, a hunt-and-gather, like...
03:18:20.040
Well, but that would be the evolutionary biological basis.
03:18:24.140
Sure, this person's a monster, but if I'm aligned with him, he would protect me, conceivably.
03:18:30.300
That's what defines monster, because we used to, like, duel each other in, like, the 1700s.
03:18:38.100
Right, but, like, if one person still, like, dies...
03:18:41.680
I mean, like, yeah, that's what makes it murder, but if someone, like, is, like, please, like, kill me, and then you kill them, like, the law is still, like, well, it's still murder, dude.
03:18:56.540
So, I don't know, because I think murder is, like, subjective.
03:18:59.980
But, like, legitimately, like, there is no, like, murder bad, murder good, because, right, realistically, I mean, a lot of people would say, like, well, if you murder your rapist, or if you murder your child abuser, if, like, someone, like, abused, sexually abused your child, murdering them is, like, like, justified.
03:19:17.980
It's not legally justified, but a lot of people agree, like, morally justified, which is why, I mean, there's still a show of hands at the table when people are, like...
03:19:23.980
Or when you were, like, would you date Luigi even after you did that?
03:19:27.080
People are, like, yeah, because there is no, like, murder is just bad, or murder is just, like, not bad, because it's contextually.
03:19:35.940
Like, I think my opinion on that is, like, you can't play God.
03:19:39.520
You can't take someone else's life, no matter what you think your reasoning for that is.
03:19:43.520
But I think that everyone has different justifications and reasoning for, like, why they do things, whether or not it's valid or justified for you.
03:19:51.560
But so who here thinks the killing was justified?
03:20:00.820
I mean, Kylie, you said you would date him, so I assume you believe it's justified.
03:20:05.380
I'm not dating him because I'm attracted to criminals.
03:20:10.380
The whole assassination thing wouldn't be a red flag for you?
03:20:15.680
I didn't really get much into that, but I heard that the argument was that he was the CEO of UnitedHealthcare
03:20:21.460
and that they were taking money away from a lot of innocent people or something, or, like, charging them.
03:20:28.860
So, well, look, there's no doubt and no dispute that health insurance companies are the bane of corporate greed, right?
03:20:39.460
And it's despicable what they do, but there are mechanisms in place to, you know, changing laws or that would be the appropriate way.
03:20:51.340
For example, like, what would then stop conservatives from just murdering a bunch of, like, people who advocate for trans stuff?
03:20:59.840
Like, whoa, these trans people, these trans advocates are harming children.
03:21:05.680
We should murder them because of what we believe.
03:21:12.040
People, I mean, like, people do do things like that.
03:21:14.800
I think that it's just, like, not really an argument you can make.
03:21:17.980
Like, one, like, two bads doesn't make a good, like, just because someone, like, you know what I mean?
03:21:21.880
I feel like that's just always, like, not a good argument.
03:21:23.980
Well, like, if this person did something bad, what if I went and did this bad thing?
03:21:31.160
Related to this, it's like there's discussions of, okay, well, there shouldn't be billionaires.
03:21:38.160
What's all of us here at this table, by virtue of us living in the United States, maybe you guys, some of you aren't quite there yet, but once you guys start a job, you will all, everybody here will be in the global 1%.
03:21:54.620
So what is stopping the bottom 99% globally from saying, we don't like what Americans have, we're coming and taking it, and we're going to murder you so we can have the things that you have?
03:22:15.880
Because people don't actually realize how fucked up our government is, I feel like, first of all.
03:22:22.480
I'm not saying we should do that, but there's a movie about it that we won if we did that.
03:22:28.420
But what I'm trying to say is, is there's this, like, this sort of disdain.
03:22:32.380
I think we should punish them instead, not kill them.
03:22:39.640
And look, maybe perhaps some of that, this dislike could be, there could be issues with sort of the incoming, the inequality that exists in America.
03:22:47.980
However, this idea that we should, like, do away with billionaires and, like, essentially assassinate them is kind of ridiculous.
03:22:56.140
Because then that opens all of us up in the United States to then being subject to the same sort of treatment by the bottom global 50%.
03:23:06.120
If you live in America, you're in the top 1% of the world.
03:23:10.680
You make $50,000 a year, you're in the top 1% globally.
03:23:22.200
But I mean, legitimately, by what definition in the sense of, like, I feel like a lot of people would move outside of the U.S.
03:23:28.000
And be more comfortable, like, living third world and, like, not having as many things as we have here comparatively to living here with certain aspects.
03:23:39.040
Like, for me, for example, if I could get better health care somewhere else, oh, my God, I'd leave the U.S. in a heartbeat.
03:23:44.820
The United States has the – no, it does not have the worst.
03:23:49.580
The United States has some of the best doctors in the world.
03:23:53.360
Right, which is cool if you can get into them, if you can see them.
03:23:56.620
If it doesn't take, like, a year to see a primary, to be able to see – like, to get a referral, to see a specialist, to be able to see another specialist.
03:24:03.400
What you're describing happens in Canada, where they have universal health care.
03:24:07.460
Yeah, well, I'm not necessarily, like, talking about Canada.
03:24:09.380
But, like, I'm also saying, I said, if there's somewhere else that can provide that for me, then I would leave instantly.
03:24:21.140
I mean, dude, I don't – like, straight up, like –
03:24:23.040
All right, here, we're getting off topic, off of dating stuff.
03:24:32.420
Y'all women be dating criminals and murderers and shit?
03:24:40.520
And, look, maybe some men will disagree with me.
03:24:43.140
If a girl has murdered somebody – I'm not talking self-defense.
03:24:47.240
If a woman has murdered somebody, I don't care if she's the most beautiful woman in the world.
03:25:01.840
Never would ever consider dating somebody like that.
03:25:15.980
I think, like, when I was younger, I used to, like, get turned on by a man that was, like –
03:25:21.960
Because I thought that was masculine, you know?
03:25:24.460
I thought that was, like, what it meant to be masculine.
03:25:26.660
But then, as you get older, you start to realize, no, that was actually not okay of them to, like, touch them – touch me a certain way or whatever.
03:25:35.940
It's so masculine to have a wife and two children and then go away to prison for 20 years.
03:25:48.160
And then your children grow up without a father.
03:26:02.600
And it said something along the lines of maybe women are going after these toxic relationships because that's all they know is toxic relationships.
03:26:10.080
And that's the only form of consistency that they think they'll find.
03:26:16.540
But I think that there's so many things that contribute to you having your current perception and then your general lack of or your sense of awareness.
03:26:28.940
Because, like, when you go through a traumatic experience with a specific partner, I think that's where you, like, either learn from it and you want to, like, move on and do something different or stay the same.
03:26:42.100
And also, why is it, like, you hear all these women complaining about dating a guy who's abusive, but simultaneously you're like, yeah, I would date this criminal.
03:26:59.880
On the other hand, there are all these red flags that you were conveniently ignoring because he was exciting to you or he was attractive or whatever it is.
03:27:09.100
Because, like, I don't think anybody should be abused, but if you, like, if you intentionally go after, like, a walking red flag, should you be surprised when you're, like, you end up being abused?
03:27:26.760
But to the same token, I feel like men aren't generally, like, walking up to you being like, hey, like, I'm planning on beating on you when we start dating in three months.
03:27:36.380
Because I feel like that's, like, the situation that I've unfortunately ended up in before where I'm, like, it's all good.
03:27:48.760
And then all of a sudden it's just, like, not consistent.
03:27:52.160
And then when I'm, like, hey, this doesn't feel consistent, they're, like, what are you talking about?
03:27:58.740
And then it becomes, like, a back and forth of, like, but I did that even though they're not doing it.
03:28:03.880
It becomes, like, a manipulation thing where they, I feel like they get you into the relationship.
03:28:06.820
And then, like, yeah, like, when it's, like, bad, I mean, I'm, like, well, I mean, that's, like, bad and I, like, should probably leave.
03:28:14.940
And then I feel like when you're getting ready to leave, they, like, rope you back in.
03:28:19.880
Going back to the rating 10 out of 10 thing, I'm waiting for the girl to rejoin us.
03:28:41.940
We have a chat coming in from, whoops, one sec.
03:28:59.500
On the show Bear Grylls Survival Island, boys versus girls, the men won while the girls almost died.
03:29:19.440
Was that the same show where they, like, they gave them the pig and then they didn't kill the pig because it was cute?
03:29:28.700
All right, here, while we wait for her to come back, I'm going to just get into some of the pre-show notes.
03:29:33.260
Let's do, okay, Kylie, Kylie, you said your ex dated your best friend right after you guys broke up?
03:29:57.500
Yeah, it was a previous ex I didn't talk about.
03:30:12.800
And then right after you broke up, he dated your best friend.
03:30:22.840
So on, you know, the topic of my type is very twink and feminine men.
03:30:28.040
I don't really have a preference for men or women.
03:30:30.540
But specifically for men, I do like them to be a little bit more feminine to the point that they are, they turn out to be gay.
03:31:04.860
I just like it when men are just in touch with their feminine side.
03:31:13.920
You tell me if this is kind of the guy you go for.
03:31:28.760
Because that just sounds like you're a really feminine, feminine gay man.
03:32:04.440
Like, to the point where it's like, if you walked by them, like...
03:32:28.880
So, when women go on birth control, it psychologically changes the type of guy you're attracted to.
03:32:38.020
I have always been attracted to that type of guy.
03:32:41.880
My understanding is what it can do is when women are on hormonal birth control, they'll
03:32:52.860
When they're not on birth control, they're attracted to more masculine men.
03:33:14.720
Would you guys date a guy that presents himself pretty masculine but is a little bit feminine
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Well, actually, he didn't even say he's bisexual.
03:33:34.240
But he'll, like, dress up sexually, like, as a woman.
03:33:52.980
No, I was like, would they date someone like that?
03:33:56.180
So, tell us the story of how your ex, after you guys broke up, he started dating your best
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If there is, it's probably deleted, and it was probably my ex.
03:34:28.320
It's a joke between us that it's kind of like our lore that we have together, so...
03:34:36.980
No, no, because we only were talking for, like, two months, and then dated for one month,
03:34:41.980
and then I broke up with him, because from the start, and this was, like, maybe a year
03:34:47.420
or two ago, I shouldn't have, like, I shouldn't have let him on.
03:34:53.540
That was in, like, when I was just hooking up with people, and I didn't catch any feelings.
03:34:57.680
Um, and he, um, felt different, and he wanted a date, and so I agreed, and then I didn't want
03:35:07.660
And then I, after that, I called my best friend, telling him, you can go for him now, because
03:35:12.640
before we started talking or ever dating, um, him and, or my ex and my best friend used to
03:35:20.100
talk, but they didn't last long, and then it was, this is how me and my best friend became best
03:35:26.280
It was a competition of who would get him first, and then, uh, I eventually started dating him,
03:35:31.020
didn't like it, broke up with him, and the whole time we were together, I would always involve my
03:35:35.360
best friend with us, um, like, if, I don't, I don't know why, and then I, literally, after we
03:35:41.200
broke up, I told my best friend, you can go for him now, I don't care, and then, uh, he did keep it
03:35:46.000
a secret from me that they were talking, but that's only because, um, our ex didn't want me to know,
03:35:56.020
Oh, because, I don't know, you said you like feminine guys, so.
03:35:59.420
No, yeah, yeah, I mean, I like feminine guys, um, you know, I dated one masculine guy,
03:36:05.080
I didn't like it, and that was the masculine guy, the gay guy.
03:36:08.280
Okay, you also want, in your notes here, uh, you said the rules of dating that you, you wanted
03:36:17.380
From what I've heard is that if you don't like a certain thing, the other person will love it,
03:36:22.300
it's basically food, if you don't like tomatoes, the other person loves tomatoes, and vice versa.
03:36:27.000
Oh, so one person likes olives, the other doesn't.
03:36:29.300
It's just, like, I, the olive theory is just, you don't like something, they love something,
03:36:38.420
Um, I think, I think the three-month rule is real, but, like, you don't have to base it off
03:36:45.500
someone, how, like, how much you like them based on, like, the months you're talking to them.
03:36:49.680
Um, it's basically, you're talking to someone for three months, and then you'll know if you
03:36:55.220
Oh, okay, so three months is the, like, shit or get off the pot, or what?
03:37:04.420
I mean, it doesn't have to take three months if you know, you know, you know, if you really
03:37:09.580
But, like, three months in is when you think people get a sense of if they want something
03:37:14.740
It takes around three months from what I've experienced and what, from my friends' experience.
03:37:18.740
Um, but I don't think people should base three months, um, just to know if they want to be
03:37:24.760
Question, how long have you had the tongue piercing?
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That's why I didn't come last week, because I couldn't talk.
03:37:38.240
Oh, yeah, we had you on schedule for last week.
03:37:42.260
Um, and then your tattoo, what's your tattoo on your arm?
03:37:47.540
Um, it's my mom's favorite movie, and it's mine.
03:37:52.220
Um, the one that says Bliss, that's kind of just for me.
03:37:55.100
I have a pomegranate for my grandpa, my grandma's name in Japanese, and then my, um, like,
03:38:20.260
A day before I moved here, my grandpa, who, or my mom's dad, my dad lives with my mom's
03:38:26.680
parents, because otherwise, if he didn't, um, he would be homeless, and all of his family's
03:38:36.260
And my dad is, uh, 69 years old, and he has a bunch of issues where he can't properly
03:38:42.180
walk or talk or have any abilities to just live a normal life.
03:38:51.120
Uh, so your dad got your mom pregnant with you?
03:39:06.320
I also have three step-siblings, and, uh, like, my half-brother, who's, like, 30, maybe
03:39:14.180
Oh, does she have, with your dad, does she have other kids?
03:39:24.680
No, I, it's just my dad, and it's, like, me and my sister, like, fully related.
03:39:48.940
But she remarried, like, she remarried a guy, and that guy had kids?
03:39:58.820
The February theory, um, I, okay, forgot about the February theory.
03:40:09.640
That's, I feel like it has to do something with that.
03:40:14.800
You also wrote, modern dating has been ruined by social media.
03:40:19.720
When you love someone or something, you just know it.
03:40:23.720
Like, um, before social media, I looked up to how my mom and stepdad acted, and I thought
03:40:30.440
Like, they had a few disagreements, but it's not like they never yelled at each other.
03:40:34.540
Um, they talked everything out, and even if they disagreed on something, it's just like
03:40:41.100
Um, and they always did everything for each other.
03:40:44.540
It's not like, oh, I want this, and I'm not going to give you anything in return.
03:40:48.740
Um, and I just, I think, why not just love whoever you want to love without, you know.
03:40:56.700
Yeah, social media with all, like, the love theories and rules and stuff like that.
03:41:06.580
Canada had excellent, fast healthcare until the Canadian doctor exodus to the U.S. in the
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Now, the quality in wait times to see a doctor in Canada sucks due to cuts in social spending.
03:41:24.160
Oh, there was a bunch of doctors from Canada that moved to the U.S. in the 90s.
03:41:29.160
We welcome your doctors, your Canadian doctors.
03:41:35.440
He writes, with just 22,000 jobs added, unemployment at 4.3%, and grads facing 6% joblessness,
03:41:42.320
is dating for financial security realistic when even educated workers lack stability?
03:42:01.140
I guess I would just say, it's very hard to have feminism and then also have women wanting
03:42:11.080
Like the two, look, it's, it's possible, but the two kind of butt heads a little bit.
03:42:17.720
So I'm not saying that women shouldn't have the option or the choice to work, which by
03:42:23.720
It's just historically, most industries were rather, there wasn't like a hundred, 200 years
03:42:29.820
ago, there weren't air conditioned, comfortable office jobs for women.
03:42:33.480
Most work that was available to anyone, but to men, it was like physical labor and men are
03:42:50.780
It's total nonsense that they were, it was illegal for women to work.
03:42:54.240
There's just certain realistic, uh, practical reasons why many didn't or couldn't.
03:43:02.180
And then if we're talking about like how people used to live in more, you know, homesteading,
03:43:07.080
farmsteading, this sort of thing, women definitely worked, uh, not always for a paycheck, those
03:43:18.780
I want a man to provide, but also we should be paid 50, 50.
03:43:22.820
I think these two things are not particularly compatible.
03:43:35.060
Appreciate, appreciate the incisive, uh, contribution.
03:44:00.200
Alex, you said one thing you'd like to discuss, how social media is red pilling the thick out
03:44:06.760
And the greater issue in this area being that girls feel a pressure to engage in sexual promiscuity
03:44:14.660
Plus, and what men, boys having this expectation on girls does to the dating pools and older
03:44:22.460
Uh, well, actually it could be interesting going around the table, uh, talking about
03:45:07.700
You're going to went to the wrong place, didn't it?
03:45:09.360
I feel like that's a very fair place for it to go.
03:45:35.280
But what was the thing about you wanted, the red pill thing?
03:45:38.340
It was like, I was seriously rambling yesterday.
03:45:43.500
And I was like, I don't know if that's something that I will even have the time to divulge properly.
03:45:48.500
But it's more so, at least from my perspective, especially going through the troubled teen industry.
03:45:59.160
I mean, you have an age range of girls in there, like 13 to 18, give or take.
03:46:05.660
So a lot of people that I'm still mutuals with are like younger girls.
03:46:20.180
So it's like an older sister type relationship.
03:46:22.160
But my point being, like, I observe, right, these like high school age girls.
03:46:25.260
And I think that coupled with the lack of like what, in my opinion, is like proper sex education in America and also, at least in California, the ability to unenroll your children in sex education altogether creates a problem in general for like girls and their perception of like consent and what appropriate behavior is and all of these things.
03:46:49.960
But I think more specifically, the way that at least I've noticed the algorithm pushing like OnlyFans content and stuff like that is just really heavy.
03:47:01.320
And so it doesn't mean that necessarily that's like the majority of the content out there.
03:47:04.600
But whatever like OnlyFans and like type content there is out there, I feel like is being pushed to social media very heavily, which is cool when you're old enough to, you know, perceive that content accurately and view that content in a safe way.
03:47:20.180
And I feel like a lot of parents, I mean, don't really monitor their kids on social media very well.
03:47:24.460
But I think my issue is that these younger girls are being shown that I feel like not that that's what's normal.
03:47:38.140
But that's what's maybe expected of them is to put yourself out there more to, you know, dress a little bit skimpier to be perceived a certain way, which is completely fine if you know what that means.
03:47:48.300
If you're comfortable and confident in yourself and you feel comfortable wearing that clothing, you go do that.
03:47:54.500
But I feel like me growing up, I wasn't comfortable or confident doing that.
03:47:58.320
But I thought that that was the expectation of me.
03:48:00.160
And I feel like my bigger issue is that like these younger and younger teenage boys are thinking that this is like the norm and that it's like completely OK to expect certain things from women and that that's affecting younger and younger generations of girls.
03:48:14.180
I don't really know how to like condense that, but I think that that's just affecting.
03:48:20.760
It's either Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle sort of, I think, I don't know which one, has a joke on this.
03:48:26.820
You're not a prostitute, but you're wearing a prostitute's uniform.
03:48:31.480
So, I mean, I guess that's not necessarily what I'm saying.
03:48:41.180
Me and those 15-year-old boys that go to school with me, we're all on Instagram.
03:48:48.300
We're all getting pushed the same like content.
03:48:52.460
And I feel like perception-wise, because it's not being backed with like sexual education, that's affecting how young boys also view young girls and also how young girls view themselves.
03:49:07.320
So my main thing being that I think because there's like this sexual content being wrongfully pushed to minors who should not be seeing it to begin with, they're getting this content with no, like I said, sexual education backing that.
03:49:20.600
And like what is consent and what is this and what is that?
03:49:22.720
And like everyone has like different things going on, rambling.
03:49:25.900
But because it's not backed with that education, I feel like it is becoming problematic to where, sorry, I'm like really rambling, like young boys are like expecting like, I don't know, like girls at like 15, 16 to like be okay having sex, be okay like giving head, be okay engaging in like sexual activity, expecting them to, you know, like show up like wearing like thong instead of like normal underwear.
03:49:51.400
Like there are certain little things that, I mean, I experienced and I know like my friends experienced being on like the younger end of people in this group, but also I'm having like my 17 and like, you know, 16 year old friends from like my program come to me and be like, this is a new issue.
03:50:05.360
And hearing more and more girls talk on social media, like 12, 13, 14, like these boys that I go to school with expect this of me because this is what they're seeing.
03:50:14.400
And like, I don't know how to like hold boundaries properly.
03:50:17.620
And I also feel like it's just like messing it up for everyone because it's really voiding people of like having genuine connections and like learning about things like between people deeper than sex.
03:50:27.340
Cause I feel like a lot of high school relationships I saw, it was like, you know, these kids and it was like all about like sex and like them being intimate and not them like being friends or like going on dates.
03:50:37.960
And I feel like it's just voiding people of like, yeah, genuine connection and like not in the way that OnlyFans is bad or that prostitution or like anything like sex work related is inherently bad as far as like on the woman's end of things.
03:50:52.240
But it's more so that the content is being pushed to people that shouldn't be being pushed to and it's not having proper sexual education backing it.
03:50:59.140
It's not having proper education or like guidelines around it.
03:51:01.880
And it's affecting how people perceive, sorry, how people perceive and like view things.
03:51:05.780
But it's affecting younger generations than it really should, is my thing.
03:51:13.340
But I mean, even going back into the eighties, there's always been media that was consumed by high schoolers that depicted sex.
03:51:25.020
Fast times at Ridgemont High or American Pie or all these days being confused.
03:51:29.040
Or do you have to like walk into a movie theater, like record that shit on your DVR, you know what I mean?
03:51:32.940
Like genuinely, you had to like put a little more effort in than just opening up your Instagram.
03:51:39.780
Like you can get on that shit on like a vape now.
03:51:41.800
Like, like you could literally go on like a social media on a vape now.
03:51:45.160
Okay, so should we ban social media for people under 18?
03:51:47.900
And so there, that's not my, that's not what I'm saying.
03:51:53.160
But like being able to like talk about things like that.
03:51:54.880
Because I think that's part of it is like where you start like delving into that.
03:51:57.980
I feel like a lot of people hear OnlyFans bad, like you're against sex work.
03:52:03.220
I'm saying that there needs to be more regulation about how this content is being pushed to minors.
03:52:08.780
Like kids should not be like dealing with adult issues, especially when it comes to like sex and intimacy.
03:52:16.080
Honestly, at least my perspective, if I was raising, well, when I'm going to be raising kids, they're not getting a smartphone.
03:52:25.880
They're not, they're not getting access to it until.
03:52:28.000
I don't even want my kid to have any social media.
03:52:34.020
I mean, who knows how things are going to look in 10, 15, 20 years, whatever.
03:52:39.380
They're not, I'm not laying my daughter or my son on TikTok.
03:52:44.480
I think that that's where you also get into like, it's a rock and a hard place.
03:52:53.260
It's like, you know, like kids have phones at school.
03:52:55.160
Like, I don't know if you're doing public school or whatever.
03:52:58.600
But that's the other thing I feel like is it creates the curiosity.
03:53:02.420
Whereas I feel like the better way to go about it would be like transparency.
03:53:05.860
Like, hey, like we can start talking about you going on social media.
03:53:11.380
Like, when I was a kid, it was like the kitchen computer.
03:53:15.740
But, because I feel like that's also what I'm talking about is not necessarily.
03:53:20.560
I mean, obviously, if you're doing OF, your whole marketing is online.
03:53:23.540
So, you can't just expect people to not do that.
03:53:25.800
It's more so, like I said, like the regulation and like education behind it.
03:53:32.960
You said there's also probably a handful of things that we disagree on.
03:53:51.660
Oh, we didn't really finish up on the like 1 to 10 thing.
03:54:07.880
Um, with the like having all the 100, almost 100 men or whatever that you had seeking
03:54:14.500
They were paying you thousands or tens of thousands of dollars.
03:54:21.420
Like, 25, when you started doing this, you were like 22, 23, whatever.
03:54:28.820
Men have paid you six figures just for existing.
03:54:35.100
That's, most men don't have this fallback of, well, shit.
03:54:39.740
I could just sling some dick to some women for money.
03:54:55.780
For example, like you say, you have standards for your future girlfriend or wife, and you
03:55:01.900
have this and that for that, but people who ever fit in that criteria you give, probably
03:55:07.940
If you want to compromise for your requirements, or you want to go to the girl you really like,
03:55:13.300
or you don't really have a type, which is, you know, some people, they just go after
03:55:17.700
more fun life, and some people, they don't, they don't, you know, like, playing a little
03:55:33.800
Oh, yeah, and also from work, I'm making, currently making about $15,000 per month myself,
03:55:39.900
so if I can make that much, and I just got started, why can't I expect the guy, whoever
03:55:46.200
I'm seeing, to make more than that, or be better than me, or to mentor me?
03:55:51.420
I mean, that's fine, but, I mean, you do acknowledge that you, essentially what you've been doing
03:56:15.220
But, like, do you tell her, by the way, like, I fuck 75-year-old men for money?
03:56:20.280
She doesn't know the exact number, but almost every time I will tell her.
03:56:29.660
Oh, by the way, I grew up from a Christian family.
03:56:38.300
My mom is, like, really, really religious, but that also makes her forgiving.
03:56:44.440
You know, she is very understanding and forgiving.
03:57:07.240
So you tell your mom, I have had sex with approximately 50 men for money, and she's okay with it?
03:57:15.840
She's, she's definitely not okay with it, but she is very understanding, like, she understands.
03:57:22.980
I thought Chinese, I thought Asian parents, you know?
03:57:35.540
My whole family, the whole culture, like, even wearing lipstick will be looking at a whore in China, still.
03:57:43.320
Like, without doing anything, just wearing lipsticks, people will see you, that's a whore.
03:58:14.320
I mean, I have lip gloss, but I don't know if that's...
03:58:39.260
So do you want, like, a husband and kids, or...?
03:58:50.220
Yeah, when I meet the guy, when I get into the situation, I won't know.
03:58:58.820
Like, are you going to tell him that, like, hey, by the way, I used to be a prostitute?
03:59:08.620
It's plausible you will meet many men who never see the show, but, like, are you going to
03:59:15.720
tell a guy who you see a long-term future with, I should let you know, by the way, I've
03:59:24.380
Well, I do have some real experience, is I know guys, they don't want to know.
03:59:29.920
If they don't ask, I don't want to compel them.
03:59:33.880
If they don't want to know, okay, we will leave it.
03:59:48.280
Yeah, that's you, but some guy, they knew I may have a past, but they don't want to know
03:59:59.540
Look, I guess some guys are forgiving or whatever.
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97% of men are not going to be okay knowing that their girlfriend, future wife, future
04:00:20.360
A good thing is I don't need to marry that many guys.
04:00:25.900
My dating pool is already very, very, very small.
04:01:00.020
Oh, so you're going to try to marry a guy regardless of his wealth so you can get citizenship.
04:01:17.560
We'll get to the money stuff in a little bit here.
04:01:34.140
Why can't average women, average-looking women, just say they're average?
04:02:00.360
But, like, legitimately, because their heart, soul.
04:02:17.380
We're not going to do the Aboriginal girl, but we're going to do the second to last and the
04:02:29.820
Just met Sydney Sweeney and got to show her what a real woman looks like.
04:02:49.700
Like, just because my type happens to be Sydney Sweeney doesn't mean someone else's type isn't
04:02:55.220
I suppose I could agree with you that, like, there could be a guy who picks the woman on
04:03:00.720
I mean, genuinely, like, I know men that 100% would.
04:03:06.560
Just because, I mean, like, white women aren't their type.
04:03:12.520
I think type is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
04:03:17.460
Like, I'm saying, for example, a guy's type could be a Latina woman.
04:03:23.140
But if he had a pick between, like, a stunner white woman and a morbidly obese Latina woman,
04:03:31.520
he's probably going to, like, relinquish his type a little bit and get with the white woman.
04:03:38.480
It depends on what preferences outweigh what, like, is your preference for someone weighing
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less outweigh your preference for the person being Latina?
04:03:46.560
Because if that's the case, then, yeah, you'd probably pick the other person.
04:03:53.740
Like, that's actually something that you can argue.
04:04:09.300
For example, I would prefer a man with, like, no meat on his bones.
04:04:15.280
Like, but a lot of women would prefer, like, a man, like, muscular.
04:04:21.300
Me, personally, I genuinely find muscles, like, especially when someone gets to the point
04:04:25.400
where they're, like, working out, they're jacked.
04:04:28.880
Well, I actually don't have any disputes there.
04:04:32.000
I think a lot of women, when the men get too muscular, wear the, like, roided up insane.
04:04:40.120
Okay, so you're saying, like, even, like, athletic muscular development, where they're
04:04:44.680
not on steroids, but they're, like, athletic build, that is still.
04:04:48.820
Yeah, like, if they're, like, too, like, and I don't, yeah, I don't even mean steroids.
04:04:52.860
I mean, like, you hit the gym consistently for a year, and, like, by the end of that year,
04:04:58.380
Like, I would prefer a paper-thin man, which, like, a lot of people wouldn't.
04:05:02.920
Some men like thin women, some men like thick women, whatever it is.
04:05:10.140
But I agree with you that beauty is not strictly, beauty is not objective in the same sense
04:05:54.620
I would choose Sweeney, but someone would choose someone on the right.
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I mean, I also think that that varies depending on, like, what point in time it is.
04:06:55.860
At no time in human history has the woman on the left would be deemed more attractive, broadly speaking, than the woman on the right.
04:07:05.740
No, I'm 100% can guarantee that at some point in time.
04:07:17.460
She has bigger lips, which is, like, generally more attractive, like, currently right now.
04:07:23.840
Like, I'm not even arguing to, like, play devil's advocate.
04:07:26.320
It's just, like, for me, personally, I think that, like, I don't know.
04:07:37.160
It's at least partially grounded in objective, measurable traits.
04:07:45.540
Like, why is it the case that, for example, in cultures who have...
04:07:50.980
Historically, who have never met or anything like that, like, you look at, like, flowers, for example, universally deemed as something that's beautiful or a sunset.
04:08:03.140
Why is that universally deemed as, like, something that is aesthetically pleasing or beautiful?
04:08:13.700
But why is there consensus, such consensus on the beauty of a flower or a sunset?
04:08:20.460
Because it's a collective opinion and there's multiple people, right?
04:08:27.640
It's, like, when you're talking about flowers, we're talking about, like...
04:08:32.080
I mean, if I give you a bouquet of roses, all the roses are pretty much going to look uniform.
04:08:36.420
But if I stand you in front of, like, ten different women, every woman's going to look...
04:08:39.940
I mean, like, even, like, ten different European white women from the exact same town and the exact same family, they're all still going to look different.
04:08:45.540
And there's one that you may find more or less attractive where someone else might find...
04:08:49.380
But I think, for example, something that you could do, and this could apply to both men and women, if you had 100,000 women, maybe we reduce the number, say 1,000 women, rank ordering 1,000 men, most attractive, least attractive.
04:09:04.520
Yeah, this guy, for this girl, might be above here, he might be down here, but this girl really likes him.
04:09:11.200
But if you have that sort of amount of people making an assessment, you're going to eventually see that there are patterns.
04:09:21.220
And, like, this guy, this guy in particular, he overwhelmingly gets ranked really high.
04:09:26.340
Or this woman overwhelmingly gets ranked really high.
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So, the reason I bring up, like, sunsets and flowers as it relates to this consensus on beauty is that I believe there's an innate human response to visual harmony.
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These are kind of, I don't know, there's certain traits, like the health indicators, proportionality.
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They're consistently preferred across different cultures and populations.
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So, and there's tendencies that make beauty partly predictable and measurable.
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If I showed, so today, though, I don't give a fuck about the past.
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Pull it back up one more time, Nick, the same one.
04:10:33.760
I would be willing to wager quite a bit that I could show this photo.
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But I'll just say 99% of men would pick the woman on the right.
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No, I'm thinking more like if you showed that to, like, men versus, like, women and, like, objectively what the opinion would be.
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Well, I think women, women prefer comforting lies over uncomfortable truths.
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So, yeah, there's probably a higher proportion of women who would lie.
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Because, like, legitimately, like, when you're asking me.
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Out of the two of them who I genuinely believe is more beautiful.
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And my reasoning for that is because I just don't think that, like, the Eurocentric, like, that just, like, whitewashed look is, like, super, super insanely attractive because everybody looks like that.
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The woman on the left to you is more beautiful.
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Um, I, if we hooked you up to a lie detector test, there's no way you're passing that shit.
04:12:12.540
And you know that typically when it comes to modeling, uh, you, you have a product, maybe not a modeling company.
04:12:17.820
You have a product and you need to hire a model and your entire business, your life savings hinges on the success.
04:12:35.120
You're telling me, everything on the line, everything on the line for your business, you're picking the woman on the left over the woman on the right.
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Because I feel like women like seeing people that don't look like everyone else they like, like, see when they walk out on the street.
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Why are we so worried about protecting each other's feelings that we're, we're lying?
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And like, that's been something that I struggled with since I was like little.
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Because I got bullied a lot for like having a different nose.
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And for me, now that I'm older, I genuinely feel like bigger noses, different unique noses are more attractive than what everyone's like getting nose jobs look like now.
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Which I'm not saying that is unattractive at all.
04:13:29.820
It's more so that I like seeing people who don't look like everybody else.
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And I think a lot of people are getting surgery and like changing themselves to look like what everybody else is.
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You realize first off, this idea of uniqueness, you realize that white people are a global minority.
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So this idea that, oh, the Eurocentric blah, blah, blah.
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You realize that white people are a minority globally.
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But that's like literally what is like being popularized right now.
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There's more women, or sorry, there's more people who are closer to the skin tone on the left than on the right.
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I mean, but just because the population of the world is more so than that.
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Does it mean that there's not a like societal standard for women?
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Because I mean, like people who are of different ethnicities are still getting nose jobs to have like Eurocentric white noses.
04:14:21.820
I'm curious how you would answer if I showed you like a really, really attractive black woman.
04:14:29.440
I mean, again, it's subjective because I don't think either person in the photo you showed me is ugly.
04:14:41.260
Like do you acknowledge that there are ugly women?
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Off the top of my head, dude, I really couldn't tell you.
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Because I don't spend, I try not to spend my time focusing on what's like ugly and unattractive about people.
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You're just not judging other people, which I understand because.
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Here's the other thing is it's not that I'm non-judgmental because I definitely like am.
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If he's not flying away like a frisbee, like I can't do it.
04:15:15.980
So you're able to make, so you're like, okay, you're able to.
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But there it is, but that's my point is that everyone has different like levels of judgment
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Because some people are like super weird and wound up about certain things that other people
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Like that is something that like, if someone's like might be willing to die on that hill,
04:15:36.980
Because I feel like in general, because I've gotten bullied when I was younger too.
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So I've kind of learned like to not judge women overall, but I understand like the point
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of view of like the guys and like, but I feel like whoever you like,
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Like you can't stop from like liking that certain type of guy.
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At this point, she is basically a man and can handle everything herself.
04:16:17.080
She doesn't need a man and just her finger or a unicorn.
04:16:31.860
They're probably 1920 being interviewed on a pier somewhere.
04:16:36.340
And the interviewer was asking, Oh, who pays for dates?
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And the guy was like, yeah, I pay for all the dates.
04:16:43.540
And he was like working a $20 an hour job or something.
04:16:49.140
Then he asked the woman how much she has in savings.
04:16:59.620
I have a feeling she's not going to give any of that to her relationship or that man.
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Some men in the world love overweight or obese women, but not the majority.
04:17:12.020
Just the thought of doing it with a 400 pound whale of a woman makes me sick.
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So I think it does kind of also boil down to like hygiene and stuff.
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In the picture, the woman on the left is ugly as fack.
04:17:40.720
I would never be able to get hard for her, let alone kiss her, even if my life depended
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I'm going to have, I'm going to need therapy though.
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120 pound five is better looking than a 300 pound seven.
04:18:23.740
If the girl on the left would bow for you, but a girl on the right wouldn't bow for you,
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Will you hold up to your standard or will you go to the looks?
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Because as long as she's attractive, as long as she's still looking, she doesn't need
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People make all sorts of compromises when it comes to, like, nobody's perfect.
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You're not going to get every single thing that you want in a relationship.
04:19:19.220
We got a girl who didn't, not even involved in the accident, clean that shit up.
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Like, your standard doesn't matter because you will go to the attractive women anyway.
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If you got to pick, if she will also pick you back.
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Yeah, but I'm not going to throw away all of my expectations.
04:19:41.300
Like, yeah, that woman on the right is really beautiful and good looking.
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But if she's, like, abusive or, like, terrible person.
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Then your number one rule of dating to bow to you doesn't matter then.
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You gave me an option to pick between two women.
04:20:04.840
Would I suppose, would I be dissatisfied with the fact that she's not willing to meet certain
04:20:11.020
But when the choice is between two women, and obviously when we're looking at who we're going
04:20:15.300
to date, we're looking at the totality of everything.
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So, you know, one person might not measure up in, like, X way, but they measure up to
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the degree to which you're willing to date them.
04:20:34.900
If a woman is, that woman is like a, I'm not trying to be mean.
04:20:41.280
The woman on the right's like at least a solid nine.
04:20:51.320
If a woman, even if she's insanely beautiful, like we were talking about this, if she was
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a murderer, for example, or she just was like a terrible person, bitchy, bad attitude,
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Some guys will put up with that shit, especially for beauty, because beauty, look, is currency.
04:21:09.760
For me, though, I do have certain expectations of what I want in a woman, and I don't care
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If you're not acting in a certain appropriate way, don't care.
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But a lot of men will simp for a beautiful woman.
04:21:25.900
But being beauty, being pretty is not necessary to be a murderer or something.
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There are so many pretty women who's not violent.
04:21:34.820
Yeah, but there's a lot of beautiful women who are terrible people.
04:21:37.040
And there's good-looking men who are terrible people.
04:21:42.880
But in this case, when you're giving me, the two choices are a beautiful woman, but
04:21:47.800
And the woman on the left, who's not beautiful, who will bow.
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We just found out beauty outweighs standard, whatever dating standard.
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Like, beauty is more important than bow to you.
04:22:13.800
You say, those girls, they only value money, but not.
04:22:18.280
Those guys, whoever willing to provide for her, not only have money.
04:22:22.840
They also polite and they have, they are very well educated.
04:22:30.340
Well, again, the hypothetical you posed to me had two options, right?
04:22:37.600
So I'm not willing to sacrifice like eight or nine points in attractiveness for the bow.
04:22:46.420
I'm not willing to do it, but I might sacrifice like one point.
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Like, okay, I can deal a modern, how about this?
04:22:53.560
Like, she's a six, but she's completely submissive, feminine, meets my standards, et cetera.
04:23:01.700
Or a seven, who's a feminist boss babe, blah, blah, blah, who wants 50-50, claims she wants 50-50 partnership, probably would lean towards the six over the seven.
04:23:13.820
But also like what she said, the seven, based on your standards or based on the majority standards, because maybe people have different perspectives.
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I think in general, men are going to avoid the headache.
04:23:30.000
It sounds like you would compromise something over the standards.
04:23:33.520
And if you got a, like, luxury to pick, if you got that many girls are available for you.
04:23:41.380
Well, yeah, I think we all do compromises in this case.
04:23:45.800
So in this case, if a woman was so phenomenal that, but her one thing, oh, Brian, you know, the bow is kind of weird, whatever, I'm not going to do it.
04:24:05.920
How can you just separate prostitutes and all the other girls who doesn't do sex for money?
04:24:12.440
They all got standards, and it's all wrapped up very complicated.
04:24:31.600
Although the napkins are right by her, and you did tell Felicity to do it, but I don't
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know why you guys, see, it's always stupid shit they see in the chat most of the time.
04:24:40.200
As long as he's not my sponsor, it doesn't matter.
04:24:42.820
But if he's my sponsor, I'm going to apologize.
04:24:45.120
I'm going to do all the things to try to smooth him out.
04:24:50.200
I think you should just try to be a better guest and clean up your own mess.
04:24:59.160
So I think that men will settle for a girl who has nine out of the ten qualities that
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they want, but a girl will make the mistake and leave the guy with the nine out of the
04:25:05.380
ten qualities for the guy that has the one quality they're missing.
04:25:10.700
And then they wonder why they're miserable afterwards.
04:25:21.700
I feel like they're all just, like, heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy generalizations.
04:25:29.720
Like, you can't group two people and be like, they're all like this or they're all like this.
04:25:46.940
Why can't they just say that they're average-looking?
04:25:52.820
If I don't think that I'm a 10, then how am I going to want to, like, try and get with a 10 if I'm not thinking that I'm a 10?
04:25:59.120
I mean, legitimately, like, why would you view yourself as anything less than a 10?
04:26:02.240
And I don't mean in, like, a conceited way, but in a confident way.
04:26:06.860
Wait, so your logic is, if I don't view myself as a 10, how am I going to get a 10?
04:26:15.060
Because if I hate myself, I'm only going to attract people that probably hate me, too.
04:26:18.960
Like, you can have a reasonable self-assessment of how you look and not hate yourself.
04:26:25.160
I'm average-looking, but I'm fine with being average.
04:26:28.000
But also, even delusional, like, just because you're delusional doesn't mean you're going to get the guy who's a 10.
04:26:37.680
Let's say, can a woman, like, clearly not be a 10?
04:26:42.920
I mean, it goes back to what I said earlier about, like, being subjective.
04:26:48.640
In some countries, the one on the right would be murdered in some places.
04:27:08.680
What I personally find attractive, I would not call her a 10, but I wouldn't call the person on the right a 10 either.
04:27:16.800
I don't feel comfortable rating people like that, because I don't think I'd really do that in general.
04:27:28.000
We're talking about preference, not putting a number on somebody.
04:27:34.400
Okay, we're talking about rating someone on a scale from 1 to 10.
04:27:38.080
Like, but that's my thing, though, is when we're talking about weight, I'm like, okay, I prefer someone who's more muscular over someone who's skinnier.
04:27:51.600
An 8 holds a different weight for me than it might hold for somebody else.
04:27:54.200
Like, again, all of this is just so, like, arbitrary.
04:27:57.480
Let's say you would agree that there are ugly women, though.
04:28:04.600
Like, what I think is ugly, though, is going to be different from what she thinks is ugly, what she thinks is ugly, what she thinks is ugly, what she thinks is ugly.
04:28:08.560
But whatever you think is ugly, you do acknowledge there are ugly people, ugly women, ugly men.
04:28:14.140
I think in general that, yeah, everyone probably has perceptions.
04:28:17.320
So, what if this ugly person is holding out for Brad Pitt?
04:28:25.500
Like, I have seen women with some atrocities of boyfriends, genuinely.
04:28:34.520
Like, I don't know if someone who, like, is conventionally unattractive is holding out for, like, high school Brad Pitt.
04:28:41.700
If you think high school Brad Pitt will give it up to you, maybe you will.
04:28:43.920
Do you think if you're desirous of getting into a long-term relationship and having, like, a healthy relationship, maybe getting married one day, maybe having kids, if that's your desire, don't you think, like, if that's your goal, you need to go about that in a, like, pragmatic, realistic way?
04:28:59.100
Otherwise, you're not going to ever get that which, what you want?
04:29:02.680
Well, the realistic way to go about that would be to view yourself in a good light, right?
04:29:08.240
Like, to love yourself and accept yourself and be okay independently and, like, be confident in your own, like, I don't know.
04:29:15.860
Do you think that there are men who, do you think that there are men who think they're more attractive than they actually are?
04:29:30.160
Like, do you know a guy who thinks he's hot shit, but he's not?
04:29:34.440
And I also know women, but I also know women who think that they're hot shit.
04:29:40.600
But you have all fallen victim to that very thing with which you've just acknowledged is a thing that happens.
04:29:46.500
But, yeah, we're all skinnier and white, like you said was the 10.
04:29:50.200
Where you don't look anything like the girl on the left.
04:29:51.460
Okay, just because you're skinnier and white doesn't make you a 10.
04:29:53.640
So, here's my thing, though, is, like, I'm not, like I said earlier, I'm not talking about cocky.
04:30:00.020
I'm talking about I love myself and I genuinely think that I'm beautiful.
04:30:05.660
The same way that if you came up to me and you told me you think you're a 10, I'm not going to debate you on that.
04:30:09.740
If that's how you feel about yourself, then, like, more power to you.
04:30:15.000
It means you think you're better than you actually are.
04:30:20.860
No, because also, I think it's more you think that you're better than other people.
04:30:30.260
I think highly of myself as an individual, as a person.
04:30:34.720
When it comes to me comparatively to the next person, like, that's unrealistic.
04:30:38.240
Because I don't know, like, yeah, I probably think that I'm, like, less than, like, comparatively to some people.
04:30:43.860
Do you think that the guy who's, like, obese, lives in his mother's basement, plays video games all day, smokes weed, smokes cigarettes, Cheeto dust in his fucking belly button?
04:30:55.860
Well, that's the part that makes him unattractive.
04:31:04.620
Can he get a 10, a woman who's a 10, who's a supermodel?
04:31:09.780
Can he answer my question before you go on some more prattle?
04:31:16.680
No, because of the behavior and the difference in lifestyle.
04:31:20.380
That's someone with no discipline, clearly, and no drive versus someone who, like, is disciplined and driven in their own career.
04:31:26.360
So why is it okay for women to have unrealistic standards but not men?
04:31:34.580
Wait, so you're telling me that there are women who have made a determination that they're a 10 and they're perfect.
04:31:49.620
You were saying that women should be like, I'm a 10.
04:31:58.860
Your perception, your self-perception doesn't dictate what you are to external, external reality.
04:32:06.500
I really disagree with that because I think that if you fucking hate yourself and you let everybody know.
04:32:13.720
If I go around and I say, I'm ugly, I'm atrocious, nobody likes me all the time.
04:32:18.500
But if I do, other people are going to perceive me like that.
04:32:21.400
Do you, okay, do you acknowledge, hold on, stop, stop.
04:32:23.680
Do you acknowledge that there are average looking women?
04:32:31.480
How many times do I have to answer this question?
04:32:36.900
So should they, but should people have different truths under your framework, should an average
04:32:43.420
looking woman, should she think she's a 10 or should she, you're, you're making it into
04:32:51.180
What if she's just like, I'm average looking girl, which, which of the two should she do?
04:33:03.140
My average is different than somebody else's average.
04:33:06.640
If I think, look around the fucking table, you got a bunch of average looking women all
04:33:20.280
I know I'm breaking your Megan Fox is like, I'm melting your brain.
04:33:29.240
It's like, we're being comparative to people that aren't real.
04:33:32.580
I mean, not even not real, but like one in a million.
04:33:34.980
It's like, I'm like, I'm not going to look like Megan Fox.
04:33:38.320
I don't have Megan Fox money to take care of myself.
04:33:40.240
So just be like, I'm a five or six, but she's not.
04:33:45.920
Cause I, on top of that, if I had like Megan Fox money to be able to take care of myself
04:33:49.340
like that, to be able to look at every day, like, and do that.
04:33:54.620
No, I need money to be able to like afford like really nice, expensive luxury skincare
04:33:59.740
and like being able to like get a massage and like go to the gym.
04:34:09.040
Even a guy that takes care of himself, like his beard and how he shagged her.
04:34:12.680
Well, if I showed up here, right, looking like this versus if I showed up here, how I
04:34:17.820
looked this morning, rolling out of bed, objectively.
04:34:27.760
I think I'm a 10 regardless of how I looked when I roll out of bed.
04:34:34.900
Because I love myself and I wanted to look a little different.
04:34:43.060
If makeup has a tendency to improve one's physical appearance, then surely, then surely
04:34:53.360
Because I started doing it at 11 as like face painting.
04:34:55.380
Even if I granted that you're a 10 in your current state, which you're not.
04:35:05.600
Then why would you, if you're a 10 and then it's still a 10.
04:35:07.500
Some people think that makeup makes women look less attractive.
04:35:12.160
So if I'm only putting on makeup to my, which I'm not, then like what?
04:35:20.420
Because most of us know that they don't like it.
04:35:21.960
Realistically, I do do it for me because nine times out of 10, I don't wear makeup.
04:35:32.100
But regardless of that, yes, I thought it was a 10 when I rolled out of bed this morning.
04:35:37.320
If a woman had decent looks, little to no body count, was down to earth, had no baggage,
04:36:05.360
He's the biggest contributor to you, to this show, to this podcast.
04:36:15.620
There's just no point to, you know, upset him because he's helping this podcast.
04:36:31.520
I'm going to burn the Canadian flag on the podcast.
04:36:38.440
Every time you read his comments out loud and pause this long time for him,
04:36:52.600
Yeah, but if somebody sent in a message that I disagreed with,
04:36:55.540
they're like, oh, the earth is flat, or I don't know, something about dating.
04:36:58.980
They're just like, well, they sent in 200 or whatever,
04:37:01.500
and they're like, you know, me personally, I prefer, you know,
04:37:05.620
women who've done porn and blah, blah, blah, blah.
04:37:07.700
I'd be like, nah, I wouldn't just agree with it just because they're sending in a super chat.
04:37:12.760
In this case, me and Pasty happen to agree on quite a bit of, quite a lot.
04:37:26.420
I would be here saying I'm an Orthodox Christian.
04:37:36.380
But if I really wanted a grift, I'd just lie and be like, yeah, you know, I'm a.
04:37:45.340
You have common place with the past, what's it called?
04:38:01.460
This is a transatlantic, wait, a trans-Canadian conspiracy.
04:38:12.120
You agree with every, every comment he dropped.
04:38:25.720
I'm sure Pasty George could send some shit in that I disagree with.
04:38:29.240
Like, for example, maybe we should annex Canada.
04:38:46.380
Don't say something and then say, just kidding.
04:38:54.680
I'm just waiting to see if there's any disagreement you have.
04:39:09.840
Just because you open your legs for a 10 does not make you a 10.
04:39:14.640
Most men will be down for anything if you open your legs.
04:39:17.920
The reason I push back on this so much is that just because a guy will dick you down doesn't mean he'll wife you up.
04:39:26.460
So women have access to men outside their league.
04:39:31.820
And so when women are delusional, when women are delusional and think that they're more attractive than they actually are, you can get limited access to a guy who's really attractive or meets whatever your metrics of attraction are.
04:39:48.560
Just because you can sleep with a guy doesn't mean you can get in a relationship with him, doesn't mean he'll give you commitment, doesn't mean he'll give you the ring, right?
04:40:00.880
Maybe has it ever been the case that you wanted a particular guy to be your boyfriend and you slept with him, but he didn't want anything more?
04:40:12.640
Typically, like, for example, as a guy, if I can sleep with a girl, if I can sleep with a girl, I have a high level of confidence.
04:40:23.980
I don't think women can be as confident as it relates to this.
04:40:31.780
Like, you know, when you, like, give her such good sex that she, like, looks to stay with you.
04:40:38.960
It's not even about the sex, but it's more so men and women are different, right?
04:40:50.260
When guys pursue casual sex, they'll sleep with a girl that just on the basis of her looks alone, like, they'll sleep with a woman who they don't find commitment level attractive, right?
04:41:05.000
So, just on that basis alone, like, a guy will sleep with a girl, use her for sex, whatever, but she's just not attractive enough that he would ever be in a relationship with her.
04:41:13.380
But typically, when women sleep with men, typically, not, again, I'm not, not a monolith here.
04:41:21.660
For a woman to sleep with a guy, he typically has to be at least attractive enough, physically, that she would be in a relationship with him.
04:41:35.880
Well, yeah, look, my personal perspective is...
04:41:37.880
You shouldn't be having sex with someone you don't want a relationship with.
04:41:42.140
I don't think you should be, like, men who are just running through girls with no intention of, like, anything more.
04:41:48.480
I don't think anybody should move like that, whether you're a man or a woman.
04:41:51.500
I think people should be a bit more intentional.
04:41:53.540
I'm not saying you've got to be a virgin, wait until marriage or whatever, but at least be a bit more intentional with who you choose to sleep with.
04:42:00.680
But, the difference is, like I said, women, you can sleep with men outside your league.
04:42:06.360
Like, women will break the rule the opposite way.
04:42:10.080
If a woman is otherwise relationship-minded, but she's, like, going to have a casual sexual encounter or a one-night stand, he better be really attractive.
04:42:19.660
Like, if she's going to just fuck a guy once, he's got to be really attractive.
04:42:28.240
If a guy's just trying to bust a nut, he's just looking for a girl who's willing and not really.
04:42:35.240
Like, obviously, ideally, the guy's like, well, it would be great if she's attractive too, but men will go the opposite way.
04:42:45.300
Just on her looks alone, he would never be in a relationship with her, but he's trying to bust a nut.
04:42:49.540
But, and so, this is why I think it's important for women to be realistic, because.
04:42:58.000
But, just physical looks alone is not realistic whatsoever.
04:43:02.500
I mean, in that sense, just sex, but again, that's just a shitty person.
04:43:05.660
You don't want to be associated with that person anyway, so why would we care?
04:43:08.940
We don't want to be associated with those guys anyway, but, yeah.
04:43:12.200
But, knowing, I'm not saying it's a good thing, but knowing that men, some men, move in this way where they will sleep with you and have no intention, just on your looks alone.
04:43:24.620
Look, I get that people do, like, casual hookups, whatever, friends with benefits, one night stands, whatever.
04:43:29.920
But, just on your looks alone, he would never consider you for a relationship.
04:43:33.700
He just wants, he's just using you for your pussy, basically.
04:43:36.280
I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but knowing that men do that, I think it's reasonable to come at things with, like, am I dealing with a guy outside of my league?
04:43:58.060
And when women just wholesale start saying, I'm a 10, I'm a 10, I'm a 10, you're not going to be able to make that determination.
04:44:03.980
You think, well, I'm a 10, so, of course, this guy who's good-looking or has status or is rich or whatever, of course he wants me because I'm a 10.
04:44:17.320
I know, but I think that bleeds into the whole, like, premise of, like, what I'm trying to explain thinking you're a 10 is.
04:44:22.040
Because I think if you really, truly believe that you're a 10, you're not going to allow a man to disrespect you like that.
04:44:28.560
Like, if I really think that I'm, like, valuable as a person, as an individual, as a human being, and I think that I'm a 10 and I have that confidence in myself, then I don't think I'd subject myself to, what do you mean?
04:44:47.320
And then you have sex with him once, two times, three times.
04:44:55.300
Like, that's also just not the type of person I am.
04:45:00.000
Every single guy you've had sex with always resulted in a relationship.
04:45:11.420
Yes, but so, like, not all men also move like that.
04:45:14.420
Do you have any girlfriends who have ever complained to you, oh my god, I really like this guy, he's so attractive, but he won't commit to me.
04:45:27.460
Well, my thing that I'm trying to explain to you is those girls who have had those problems that have came to me about that don't think that they're tens.
04:45:36.700
Ah, so if they thought they were tens, then they would get the commitment.
04:45:45.360
I mean, like, manifestate, and not even, I mean, like, partly, but more in the sense of, like.
04:45:52.840
Like, the way, not, I mean, because it's not even that.
04:45:55.260
The way I explain it is, like, it's like self-talk, right?
04:45:58.280
Like, if I constantly tell myself, like, I'm ugly, I'm unattractive, because they're very beautiful women who think that they're ugly.
04:46:08.520
Supermodels talk about that shit in interviews, that they think that they're unattractive, and they think they're ugly, and they think they're this, and they're subjectively tends to, like, society.
04:46:15.320
My position is not for women to wholesale think they're ugly.
04:46:30.300
Like, but what if you don't think that you are?
04:46:54.760
So, for example, I believe if it is the case that I could show how many people are on the planet, 8 billion, 9 billion, I don't know what the number is.
04:47:03.560
Because you would agree that I could take, like, two men and, like, again, you must think it's all subjective.
04:47:10.300
But, like, a most beautiful man, most handsome man ever, and, like, a really unattractive.
04:47:26.560
It's not infinitively, it's not infinitively subjective, but in the time of that current moment of the Earth's evolution, it can be subjective, but it's not infinitively subjective.
04:47:35.360
Nick, we're going to do, here, Nick, looks, and then Tom Welling, scroll up, click the first photo.
04:47:42.300
So I'm going to, for the panelists here, I'm going to ask you to look at this photo, and then I'm going to just tell you to compare his looks to another man.
04:47:48.980
Okay, this is Tom Welling, he's a bit older now, this is when he was younger, next one, next photo, just tap, map, next, well, okay, we don't need, next.
04:48:10.740
Now, Nick, Google a picture of Donald Trump, and you can't judge him based on his politics or whatever.
04:48:19.880
Melania is married to him, like, clearly someone thinks he's attractive.
04:48:23.680
Hold on, that's not what we're arguing about here.
04:48:26.260
Also, Trump is perhaps bringing other things like status, money, etc.
04:48:32.220
What you keep focusing on physical, and that's not.
04:48:34.860
All right, so, I believe very strongly, very strongly, that I could show the two pictures, and I think there would be almost universal from women.
04:48:48.440
They couldn't factor in, you know, whatever, you disagree with Trump's politics, whatever.
04:48:52.940
They would pick the first guy almost universally.
04:48:56.320
Well, I think that's part of, like, I feel like it's really hard to show a picture of Trump and not factor in, like, his background.
04:49:00.860
Okay, then I'll show you somebody else, then, if you want to be difficult about it.
04:49:06.440
And a lot of women would just be like him because he is a president.
04:49:08.260
There's a point that I feel like can't even really be argued against.
04:49:10.500
Who's that guy, shoot, the guy who, in, who, what's that movie with Olivia, wait, or the show about the Addams family?
04:49:45.340
All right, so you guys probably don't have any, like, negative political associations with this guy.
04:50:06.580
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, go back, go back, go back.
04:50:23.620
If he's anything like he is in a TV show, then he'll be also.
04:50:26.460
Based on my type of man, the first one, but the second one, when you're scrolling through,
04:50:33.600
there's, like, pictures of him when he was, like, younger, and he looked fine.
04:50:41.560
Fine, we could compare young Luis Guzman to Tom Welling.
04:50:46.340
I would still posit that universally, 99% of women are going to pick the first guy.
04:50:54.500
I don't think, but my dilemma is that, does that definitively mean that they are genuinely
04:51:03.260
If you pulled, yeah, it's still subjective, but it's universal.
04:51:08.840
Objective is 100% of people would choose the male model over Luis.
04:51:18.660
No, it would have to be fact for it to be objective.
04:51:20.660
But these aren't strictly, what I'm trying to say is it's not strictly objective or subjective.
04:51:31.240
Look, beauty is not, hold on, beauty is not objective in the strict philosophical sense,
04:51:39.360
Again, if we're talking about universal aesthetics, then it does point to it being grounded in some
04:51:49.020
But, like, it's things, though, that, I mean, like, if we're talking about, like, baseline,
04:51:59.020
I mean, like, yeah, like, what, like, symmetry, like, certain things like that.
04:52:04.680
Like, if that's the basis of it, then, like, yeah, that's just, like, science, like, whatever.
04:52:08.760
But, like, with everything, I know, but, like, with...
04:52:11.060
So, that's, if something is measurable, if there's measurable traits, that can be grounded
04:52:21.680
So, no one has a soul, and we all just look at things physically?
04:52:24.660
Are, uh, generally speaking, do women assess male attract, like, uh, when it comes to height?
04:52:31.660
Like, being taller is more attractive, generally speaking?
04:52:39.440
And the only reason I say this is because I feel like every time this gets brought up
04:52:42.500
around, like, whenever I see a group of women talk about this, nine times out of ten, like,
04:52:47.820
Like, they're just, like, a little taller than me or, like, my height, and it's, like,
04:52:51.780
Like, I don't know women that go out and are, like, you're not 6'5"?
04:52:56.880
Yeah, that's a great extreme example you've given, but I would say, for example, most women have
04:53:02.620
a preference towards dating a man who's taller than them.
04:53:08.060
I think a lot of men have a preference for dating women that are shorter than them.
04:53:19.920
I get called tall by an obnoxious amount, which is also absurd because I'm not.
04:53:33.540
But, yeah, that's my other thing is, like, we're arguing, like, well, when this woman?
04:53:41.120
I feel like that's just individuals, like, people, like, I don't know.
04:53:45.100
I just don't understand what about being, like, realistic towards yourself makes you insecure.
04:53:50.180
I think it would make you really secure as a person to acknowledge your realistic flaws that you have.
04:53:58.300
And appreciate yourself as a human, but also being realistic, acknowledging that you have flaws.
04:54:03.600
Maybe there's things that you can work on you can do better.
04:54:10.140
And that's exactly what you're doing, both of you.
04:54:19.020
If we're talking about bettering yourself as a human being, like, personally, then, yeah, that's different than what we're talking about.
04:54:24.480
You could be bettering yourself physically, too, I mean.
04:54:32.980
This show is essential for many men to show them the sad reality of the state of the majority of today's modern women who were ruined by feminism.
04:55:13.980
Panel, would you date Ryan Reynolds or Joseph Carey Merrick, also known as the Elephant Man?
04:56:01.080
How about Peanut from Goonies versus Ryan Reynolds?
04:56:22.160
I mean, there's a Wikipedia page about it, so it's like, I think some people, wait, some
04:56:32.240
Well, because can't, I feel like if someone has like facial deformities, you're probably
04:56:56.700
Wait, but Ryan Reynolds and Deadpool is deformed.
04:56:58.320
Yeah, WPC George for the champagne pop, by the way.
04:57:03.540
D, Joshua, I find it adorable that these women assume they know a man's intentions before
04:57:10.760
That's like a man saying he knows exactly what a woman is thinking.
04:57:16.640
Oh, is this in relation to what Chair 1 said about she would never let a guy, da, da, da?
04:57:26.780
Oh, going around the table, going around the table, do you think you'll be better looking
04:57:45.140
Yeah, like, hopefully I'm better looking at 100, but I think I'm not going to be.
04:57:49.720
I mean, I don't know what I'm, like, my type is going to be, like, what I would view
04:57:53.100
as, like, attractive right now probably isn't the same as, like, 29.
04:58:15.560
Again, this is so subjective because I think aging is beautiful.
04:58:24.040
I'm just, I'm saying, like, I mean, whether or not I think that I'll be more attractive.
04:58:28.340
Why do they call it forever 21 and not forever 51?
04:58:36.860
Why, when women put on makeup or they get plastic surgery, are they aiming to make themselves
04:58:42.420
look closer to how they looked when they were younger?
04:58:46.100
Like, why aren't there plastic surgeries to make women look older?
04:58:51.500
Because men prefer women to look like little girls.
04:59:00.100
When we're talking about young, we're talking about adult.
04:59:06.600
So, you're saying the women themselves are engaging in, like, pedophilia, basically?
04:59:11.500
I mean, honestly, that, like, has been a problem, I feel like.
04:59:15.700
Yeah, it's, like, women catering to, but yeah, women catering to, like, pedophiles online
04:59:20.660
So, women who wear makeup and get plastic surgery to, like, cover up signs of aging are,
04:59:29.220
I mean, that's one way to twist what I was saying.
04:59:34.220
You're like, these women do it for the male gaze because men are pedophiles.
04:59:39.800
And I'm saying women, you said women get surgery to look like their younger selves.
04:59:44.120
And I said, sorry, women get surgery to look like their younger selves.
04:59:48.660
Yeah, a 40-year-old woman could be like, I wish I looked more how I looked like when
04:59:52.740
Okay, but you know damn well when you're wording it like that.
04:59:54.760
I'm not going to think of, like, a 40-year-old wanting to look like she did when she was,
04:59:59.300
Like, no, like, when you're saying it like that.
05:00:09.740
Yeah, most women are not trying to look how they looked when they were, like, 10.
05:00:14.360
And if they're trying to do that, that says more about them than it would about.
05:00:24.720
So, when do you think you'll peak in terms of your looks?
05:01:21.700
Will you be better looking in 10 years time, 34?
05:01:24.420
I believe so, because my mom had me really young, and she's, like, 43 now, 44, and she
05:01:34.500
Just to be clear, the question isn't, like, you can still be attractive and good looking
05:02:22.360
We have put all of you through AI age advancement, and we are going to see some real...
05:02:45.180
Looks like you smoked cigarettes your whole life.
05:02:50.940
Well, I'll tell you right now, that looks nothing like my mom.
05:02:56.800
You're going to have to zoom it out, okay, Nick?
05:04:08.820
She looks like one of the cougars at my local bar.
05:05:33.360
And speaking of AI, we've also put all of you through gender swap.
05:05:43.220
We have transformed every single one of you into a man.
05:06:27.220
The only reason I'm saying no right now is because I look like my dad.
05:07:00.540
He looks like he could work out in a car and I could protect me on a walk.
05:07:15.420
I mean, it's normal to not like your race sometimes.
05:07:30.520
So, for the vast majority of human history, you were never even...
05:07:48.140
And there wasn't like multiculturalism or any of this shit.
05:07:50.860
But if you lived in China 200 years ago, you probably never saw a white person ever.
05:08:00.660
But if you were not attracted to your own race, you can't date outside of your race.
05:08:09.720
So, you basically remove yourself from the gene pool.
05:08:14.080
Like, I guess it depends on the degree to which you're not attracted to your own race.
05:08:17.920
I guess you could just, like, do it out of duty or some shit.
05:08:22.860
It's abnormal to not be attracted to your own race.
05:08:25.720
Because if that was the case for all of human history, if people just weren't attracted to their own race, that's who you were around.
05:08:35.920
Like, a race that wasn't attracted to their own race would breed themselves or not breed themselves, like, into extinction.
05:08:55.200
Like, they have to go above and beyond, but, like...
05:09:00.800
You look like a very masculine man in that photo.
05:09:04.880
Yeah, like, you could get your hands dirty on the weekends.
05:10:12.460
I don't really consider that a feminine haircut.
05:11:29.320
First of all, that's not how I would look like if I was a guy, but...
05:11:38.880
From the photo, that's not what my nose looks like.
05:12:36.120
I don't think she would look like that as a guy.
05:13:05.420
You look like a guy I'd have a crush on in high school.
05:13:55.580
I need to take a bit of a moment to open this champagne bottle.
05:14:03.700
Those of you who are over 21, who wants champagne?
05:14:23.480
Okay, and then we're going to get apple cider or some shit for the rest of you.
05:14:29.440
Do you have anything you want to ask the girls just while I work on this?
05:14:34.100
Um, what are your guys' opinion on age gap relationships?
05:14:37.660
What is the biggest age gap that you will date?
05:14:40.880
I do, like, right now at my age, I do, like, 10 years.
05:15:03.300
Like, I'm kind of talking about that with my sister-in-law.
05:15:05.640
She's like, once you're 21, it's, like, a little different.
05:15:08.940
Well, because, like, you're, like, at least in the U.S., like, you're legally able to
05:15:11.900
Like, you kind of, like, hit all the legal barriers, but I think morality-wise, it's
05:15:17.280
Personally, for me, it's, like, if two adults are in a consenting relationship, but they're
05:15:21.060
both adults, then it's, like, you can't really say anything.
05:15:24.880
Like, comment on other people's, like, personal relationships, but I think that, like, background
05:15:36.020
Because I think that there's, you know, like, 20-something-year-olds who are, like, 40-something-year-olds,
05:15:40.440
and it's totally weird, and then I think that there's also, like, you know, 20-something-year-olds
05:15:43.900
that are with 40-something-year-olds, and they're, like, in the same ballpark and match
05:15:49.980
I think a lot of times it probably is weird, but...
05:15:55.040
I think right now, being 18, probably one to two years older.
05:16:00.840
That's the other thing that I was going to say.
05:16:02.600
Sorry not to, like, interject, but, like, definitely, like, when you're dealing with, like,
05:16:05.940
being, especially, like, freshly 18, but, like, even 19, 20, like, you're still, I
05:16:09.520
mean, 21, even, I mean, like, brain's not fully developed, you're still kind of, it's
05:16:14.880
I feel like it's a lot more dangerous to engage.
05:16:27.480
Will you clip it if I get, like, quirked in the eye?
05:16:47.440
Oh, and, uh, Pacey George, for the women who are not 21 yet, we are, I think it's only
05:17:00.380
So, thank you, Pacey, you're like, hell no, give me that champagne.
05:17:19.280
All right, we have a message coming in here from Pacey George.
05:17:25.940
Most of the AI gender swap pictures for women show average men, while some
05:17:30.300
look like they have genetic damage in some way.
05:17:33.400
This indicates that most of them are average-ass women and delusional as well.
05:19:14.020
This relates to women thinking they're more attractive
05:20:36.580
What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for a future husband?
05:20:44.980
So, when you're, like, 30, you would date a guy who works at McDonald's?
05:20:48.900
If I really somehow fell in love with a guy that worked at McDonald's,
05:20:51.960
and I had enough to support myself financially, then yes.
05:20:56.820
Minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
05:21:17.400
...that's the minimum yearly income to be for...
05:21:19.900
...that you would want for your future husband?
05:21:32.940
Something getting rich at once or take a couple times.
05:21:40.940
Right, like, unrealized gains, net worth, whatever.
05:21:50.720
Like, that's how much can support our life if we are getting married?
05:22:09.020
You're going to date the guy who works at McDonald's?
05:22:18.020
If I feel happy and loved and we're financially stable, then, yeah.
05:22:31.540
I originally put a million, but now I want to change it to five million.
05:22:36.400
Because I would be making at least a million dollars a year as an anesthesiologist.
05:22:50.100
You wouldn't date a guy who makes three million.
05:22:54.860
Yeah, she would settle for a guy who makes three million.
05:23:00.720
I put 100,000, but I'm actually, I want to raise it, too.
05:23:03.260
Because I wasn't thinking marriage, I was thinking about, like, dating.
05:23:07.060
Because I feel like I'm going to be making millions.
05:23:18.180
That's why they have to be making more or about the same.
05:23:30.000
Um, just in general, like, if I do want to get married, um, yeah.
05:23:46.040
At least, like, he's, like, an entrepreneur and, like, has his own thing going.
05:23:49.920
And, you know, motivated and not working at McDonald's.
05:23:58.720
By the way, guys, we're going to lower the TTS to 100.
05:24:03.200
If you guys want to get a message in, it should be getting ready to go now.
05:24:09.580
Um, I said 50K, but my husband actually makes more than that.
05:24:13.300
I think that that is just what the bare minimum to be able to take care of our house, our vehicle,
05:24:33.660
I should at least push back a little bit on this.
05:24:50.240
But, yeah, for marriage, because I'm going to have, I'll probably have a billion dollars.
05:24:53.500
I feel like I'm going to have a billion myself.
05:25:11.440
Have you ever looked at the female delusion chart?
05:25:16.800
Like, I understand your viewpoint, but I definitely feel like you have to be realistic.
05:25:23.660
Like, I don't understand why they can't make a lot of money to it.
05:25:25.400
I understand it because, like, you know, I, yeah.
05:25:28.440
Nowadays, I think this, I think social media has done a lot to a lot of, I mean, men and
05:25:37.580
So, you know, we could say that men, like, look at, like, the pictures and stuff like
05:25:42.400
But, like, women, a lot of the times you go on TikTok and, like, all these women are
05:25:46.320
talking about, like, getting, like, men with money and stuff like that.
05:25:52.020
I agree with each his own, but, like, you know, whatever they feel like, that's why
05:25:56.520
I don't judge anybody because I'm like, okay, like, if she wants to do that, let her go
05:26:15.600
And you're, you're, men don't care about your money.
05:26:20.120
So just because you make a lot of money doesn't mean that that opens up your pool to those
05:26:26.380
But I feel like I'm also, like, yeah, I feel like I'm also, like, decently looking as well.
05:26:33.600
Like, I feel like five million is not a lot to ask.
05:26:43.640
What percentage of men make five million dollars?
05:26:52.360
What percentage of men make five million dollars a year?
05:26:58.180
And what percentage of women will be able to make the amount that I'm going to be making
05:27:06.480
Answer my question before you ask me a question.
05:27:09.260
What percentage of men make five million dollars a year?
05:27:15.980
In California, because I'm going to be staying here.
05:27:26.060
So the top one percent of earners, to be in the top one percent, it's $500,000 a year
05:27:33.540
And that's factoring in men who are married, gay men.
05:27:37.520
It's factoring in men you're not going to be attracted to, because I'm sure it's not
05:27:43.680
So you got to think, okay, this guy's got to make five million a year.
05:27:51.580
We have to, whatever, similarities, commonalities.
05:27:57.520
You start chipping away at even the very small percentage of men that make five million dollars.
05:28:11.540
And, like, the worst part about that is, like, are those guys going to look your way twice?
05:28:19.820
I'm telling you, a dude who's making five mil, he don't want anything to do with you.
05:28:33.180
Like, I feel like I'm honestly realistic about my standards.
05:28:36.800
I shouldn't have to lower my standards to, like, meet with a man that's not my level.
05:28:46.640
I want a 10 out of 10 20-year-old virgin, and I'm not settling for less.
05:28:53.700
And you could probably get that because you're known and you make a lot of money.
05:29:02.460
It's more realistic than what the fuck you're trying to get, bro.
05:29:09.200
No, but that can be realistic in your world, too.
05:29:14.800
So, most men want family-motivated, not career-driven women.
05:29:24.140
I mean, I just think that you should be aware of what men think instead of being, you know...
05:29:35.200
Stop trying to financially abuse them, then, if you don't care what they think.
05:29:49.660
I mean, everyone has something to work on, but at the end of the day, like, if she wants
05:30:00.220
You guys keep saying that for me, and I know it's going to be easy for me, first of all.
05:30:04.260
You guys keep saying a lot of that stuff to me, and I know it's going to be super easy
05:30:06.980
for me, so you guys aren't always right, either.
05:30:11.300
It's like he said earlier, guys might want to smash you, but they ain't going to want
05:30:15.460
Well, there's a lot of guys I know that even have a lot of money, and they're even trying
05:30:27.640
I think the only guys who want to be making less money than the women that they're with
05:30:34.640
Wait, men that want to be with women that make less money?
05:30:38.320
The only men who want to make less money than the women that they're with are simps.
05:30:43.660
No, because I think there is a real simps out there that...
05:30:47.480
I think if you make more money, everything changes the power dynamic.
05:30:51.400
I like if you're drinking at the bottle like that.
05:30:57.640
So, I think the power dynamic changes when the woman starts to hold the majority of
05:31:06.720
Because I think that whenever you hold the majority of the money, you also make a lot
05:31:12.640
You have the money to make those decisions with.
05:31:15.260
And that's why I want a man that makes more than me.
05:31:17.560
Because I'm like, I want him to make the decisions.
05:31:26.620
Because that makes me be in my masculine, which I don't want to be in my masculine.
05:31:47.920
It's not delusion to want a guy that's not going to be like...
05:31:53.120
Because I know how much money I'm going to have.
05:31:54.420
So, I know, like, I can't be with the guy that's going to be way less.
05:32:01.060
So, I'm sure one of them at least is going to be super successful.
05:32:04.000
I can't speak about it because that would be stupid of me.
05:32:08.020
Bailey, you say this every time and you won't tell us.
05:32:16.860
So, you don't think one of those are going to be successful?
05:32:19.240
I already had a dream that I was going to be on Shark Tank, too.
05:32:25.720
If I'm not a billionaire, even, I would be surprised.
05:32:29.340
So, that's why I say a million because that's hardly anything.
05:32:33.100
Because I was with Emperor Augustus and his past life was a trillionaire.
05:32:38.220
So, I deserve it in this life more than Emperor Augustus.
05:32:49.620
I had to strip because that's the world that we came into where they...
05:32:53.420
A lot of people, like she was saying, they just, like, push younger girls into that.
05:32:58.340
That has more to say with the guys that are billionaires now than who I am as a person.
05:33:25.880
I feel like you had ideas of the Ring camera before it became popular.
05:33:35.760
Maybe I did when I was younger and you just told me some shit I didn't know.
05:33:48.420
What are some things that you've invented and somebody stole those inventions from you?
05:33:52.840
Oh, actually, there's a lot of things that I've done spiritually to help people with stuff,
05:34:08.000
Do you offer, like, any services to heal their souls or whatever?
05:34:11.960
No, I usually just do it because, I don't know, I don't...
05:34:14.260
That's not what I feel like I'm driven to do, but I could, maybe?
05:34:17.800
I could, but I just don't feel like that's my main purpose, but a lot of healers, they
05:34:22.940
They charge for their services, but I just do it for free right now.
05:34:26.700
Did you say earlier that you help, I guess, your partners spiritually?
05:34:32.160
They always start making two to three times more money or whatever they give me, I bring
05:34:36.000
it back double, stuff like that, and that's just, like, what you do when you are a divine
05:34:44.660
Um, through spiritual and physical ways, so, like, yeah, just motivating them physically,
05:34:53.080
Because I do have a soul, and we all do, even if you, like, pretend like you don't, and I'm
05:34:57.240
very connected to mine and spirituality and physicality equally, so that's why it's easy
05:35:04.240
And the people laughing are not, they're really insensitive, and it's really mean.
05:35:08.320
And let's start actually, like, calling them out for it, because it's not cool to do that.
05:35:14.220
Just because you don't understand things, you shouldn't laugh, you should just be receptive
05:35:17.560
and trying to learn, because you might look like an idiot one day.
05:35:28.260
It's, like, what you believe in, and, like, honestly, like, whatever you believe in, you
05:35:32.560
Well, that's what I was delving into earlier, and I was talking about energy.
05:35:40.680
How tall are you, and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
05:35:48.920
Um, but generally, I mean, my rule of thumb is, like, my height or taller, but I'm really
05:35:56.960
Like, I do not care for the sole reason of, like, for me to, like, reject you based on
05:36:05.200
If he looks gay enough, can he be, like, 5 inches shorter?
05:36:11.600
I had to think about, well, because, like, dude.
05:36:17.220
Like, no, just, like, decisions that I've made.
05:36:33.640
Like, that was, that's probably the more disturbing part, is, like, they're not at all.
05:36:42.180
Not, like, full beat, but, like, I'm seeing right now, he'd be wearing, like, eyeliner to his
05:36:56.120
You know what actually is, like, really interesting?
05:37:06.380
And I think being mentally stimulated is more important than dating a tall guy.
05:37:18.400
And all my friends know, I don't have, I don't hold standard for their height.
05:37:41.100
Anyone's, anyone shorter than me has ever taken interest, so it's not like I've ever taken
05:37:47.180
I mean, 5'4 and up, I don't really care about height.
05:37:53.280
I would date, like, 5'6 to 6 feet, but I have dated, you know, younger people, uh, not
05:38:28.880
So you want someone that makes 5 mil a year and they have to be 6'2"?
05:38:57.920
You know, somebody's going to work for that man.
05:39:02.760
Someone's going to put the effort in for a man who makes 5 mil a year.
05:39:28.620
I also don't really care about height too much.
05:39:49.540
I don't really care if, like, the 6'2", but I just don't, like, I like my man tall, so I don't care.
05:39:59.760
I'm 5'2 1⁄2", and I've dated guys shorter than me, but I prefer my height or taller.
05:40:25.600
Take a peek at it next to Chair 5's male photo.
05:40:31.960
We were trying to figure out who he looked like.
05:40:33.600
We were trying to place our finger on what Adam looked like.
05:40:41.640
That would be cool, though, if he identified the AI lookalike.
05:40:44.740
He, like, genuinely looks 8 out of 10, at least.
05:40:52.560
And a simple thank you, Pasty George, for the champagne.
05:41:11.360
I've seen him come in on some of your other shows, and his comments are always just so great.
05:41:24.000
A house in the countryside away from city life.
05:41:41.800
No malls, makeup, social media, don't live in the city, live in the countryside.
05:41:54.380
I'd love to live in a log cabin in the middle of nowhere.
05:42:03.760
Penmaker seems to dispute your $1 million anesthesiologist.
05:42:12.740
I've seen a lot, and I've spoken to one personally.
05:42:20.020
Chair 5, I am a millionaire, and $5 million is a hell of a lot to ask.
05:42:25.500
What makes you think that you are worth that much?
05:42:36.040
I feel like the other things aren't really required in this day and age.
05:42:46.380
she would bow if a guy paid her like $1,000 or whatever.
05:42:50.000
I'm willing to, you know, I'd be willing to take a girl out and pay for the date.
05:42:56.220
But she has to pay me $1,000 for me to do that.
05:42:59.760
I'm willing to pay for it, but she has to pay me $1,000 for me to do that.
05:43:04.800
But, okay, listen, I feel like bowing is, like, a form of, like, degradation.
05:43:14.500
You should respect and honor your husband and your partner.
05:43:21.620
Women won't cook for a man that they've been dating for weeks or months.
05:43:25.260
They won't do these sort of small effortless gestures.
05:43:29.740
You won't do his laundry, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
05:43:33.440
But you'll allow his penis to enter the deep recesses of the back of your throat within 30 minutes of a meeting.
05:43:44.360
Okay, well, you claim to be a virgin, but that's disputable.
05:43:53.300
It's totally benign, super easy to do, making him some food, cooking him some laundry.
05:43:59.100
But these feminist women will quicker let a man come inside her or blast it on her face or whatever it is, variety of sex acts, whatever it is.
05:44:09.180
But the threshold of what you won't do is cook, clean, won't be submissive.
05:44:34.640
Not spiritually, but physically, a lot of them were.
05:44:38.620
And that was, like I said, I was starting to make him more money, and he wasn't trying to bring me on dates.
05:44:43.420
And I was starting to pay for him for a lot of stuff.
05:44:47.000
He's trying to interrupt me because I'm not toxic.
05:44:52.240
I was like, whoa, she's got a fucking tat right here.
05:44:56.760
Yeah, I'm not toxic, and I've actually made every guy with either get a job when we were together or more money.
05:45:05.000
That's why I had to break up with all mine, personally.
05:45:07.500
But my situation is way different than most girls, I feel like.
05:45:16.360
Yeah, because I feel like I've gone through some situations with, like, brokies, and I'm like, I just don't want to ever date one anymore because I just, like.
05:45:26.020
Especially if you're helping to make more money.
05:45:32.300
No, it's my mom's necklace, and I just like it.
05:45:38.460
For you, Nick, pull up the screenshot that you have.
05:45:46.640
So you're Catholic, looking for a long-term relationship, open to short.
05:45:55.380
I feel like women complain about this online when they see it.
05:45:59.680
Looking for a long-term relationship, but open to short.
05:46:07.100
I mean, I'm looking for, like, a genuine connection.
05:46:13.180
By genuine connection, do you mean just banging a dude?
05:46:25.320
As in, like, we can, you know, hang out, have a fling.
05:46:29.180
But if it doesn't work out, then it doesn't work out.
05:46:48.080
Isn't your OnlyFans still in your bio or something?
05:46:50.740
Hey, Mary Magdalene was a prostitute, by the way.
05:46:56.800
And it's in the Bible, so that's crazy that these Catholics on the show don't talk about that.
05:47:05.220
And I actually brought that up in the comments.
05:47:14.320
Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on the hike, starting with you?
05:47:29.080
You also wrote, you don't know how to handle a bear.
05:47:34.240
Would you rather cross paths with a random man?
05:47:38.460
Guys, don't be mad at me when the show goes late because y'all just aren't paying attention
05:47:43.000
and I'm having to repeat stuff and et cetera, et cetera.
05:47:45.960
Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike?
05:47:59.180
Typically, most people say man, but it's been a while since we've really engaged on it.
05:48:05.040
So going around the table, those of you who picked bear, which was every one of you except,
05:48:18.360
I feel like I'd be able to either run or fight back.
05:48:33.220
I feel like I've been more traumatized by men than by bears.
05:48:36.240
I feel like my trauma response would probably outweigh my ability to fight a man.
05:48:43.340
But how many bears have you encountered in your life?
05:48:55.820
Have you encountered as many bears as you've encountered men?
05:49:04.700
I feel like just like in terms of realistically when I was thinking about it,
05:49:08.960
like if I saw a man come up to me in the middle of the forest when I'm on a hike,
05:49:16.280
Yeah, if a random man just came out of the woods on a hike, then like a bear.
05:49:22.680
Have you ever like walked past a man and there was, I don't know,
05:49:36.620
I mean like, well duh, like in the scheme of like life.
05:49:41.320
Um, so if we just replaced all the men you've encountered with, like you're alive today,
05:49:48.880
If we just replaced all the men you've ever encountered with bears, do you think you'd
05:49:56.080
There's, well, either I wouldn't be alive or I'd be very skilled at handling bears.
05:50:03.000
Um, I've been to Yosemite and they just like taught me to just be like scream at the bear.
05:50:09.380
And if I, I don't know, uh, I think like with the men I've encountered.
05:50:15.340
So men are more dangerous than bears is what you're saying?
05:50:34.320
So, and honestly, men have done worse things than I feel like bears.
05:50:51.320
Men probably are destroying the world more than bears, but also, uh, I'm like a Disney princess,
05:50:56.760
so I probably, women are just, no, you don't tell me to, I tell you to show women by this
05:51:02.780
logic are destroying the world more than bears are too.
05:51:10.300
I can't say no, but also I'm like a Disney princess.
05:51:12.800
So I probably, I've become friends with the bear, like Mowgli women's rampant consumerism
05:51:17.060
is way more responsible for like environmental damage and global warming than men.
05:51:21.640
But I'm like a Disney princess and I would be from the bear.
05:51:23.920
I'd probably like somehow connect with it and I'd be like Mowgli.
05:51:26.960
We're getting some fucking room temp IQ takes on it.
05:51:31.700
I pick the bear because I've just had traumatic experience with men and I would just rather
05:51:39.420
By the way, Felicity, did we go finish the height thing?
05:52:03.600
So anyways, I guess my confusion here with the bear is, I don't know.
05:52:12.760
Don't you think it's a bit discriminatory or sexist towards men to rather come across a
05:52:25.760
What if, what if, would you guys be fine if this question was asked the following way?
05:52:33.300
Would you rather cross paths with a random black person or a random bear?
05:52:36.860
Would you guys be okay with somebody saying, I pick the bear over a black person?
05:52:54.580
Let's say there were white people who said, yeah, I'd rather cross paths with a random
05:53:12.180
But the reason has nothing to do with the gender.
05:53:21.020
So if you pick bear, does that make you sexist?
05:53:24.700
So, but if it makes you a racist to pick a bear over a black person, why would it not
05:53:31.560
make you a sexist to pick men or pick bear over a man?
05:53:36.000
Because a man can do like, I feel like as a woman, I'm speaking from like a woman's perspective.
05:53:43.120
In that case, in that scenario, like they're just choosing it because of race.
05:53:49.520
But you're also choosing to pick the bear over a man because it's a man.
05:53:53.280
I'm choosing a bear over the man because a man can do more things to me than a bear would.
05:53:59.980
People are choosing a bear over a black person.
05:54:03.580
So a black person could do more things to you than a bear could.
05:54:16.300
But what you're failing to understand here is the person who picks the bear over the black
05:54:29.360
So then by extension of your logic, it must be sexist to pick the bear over a man.
05:54:34.960
Because you're generalizing, you're attributing.
05:54:38.960
So very small proportion, very, I get that each of you have had individual experiences that
05:54:43.900
were bad with men or whatever, but you do realize like criminality is really small proportion
05:54:52.920
So you're basically doing that, which you object to if it was done with race, but you're
05:55:04.260
Um, rape cases have been, um, rape has happened because of men and the statistics are 99% like
05:55:15.720
So even, even if that was true, even if that was true, it is 99% of men.
05:55:23.540
It would be of the people that do commit this crime.
05:55:28.940
But, but that's a, still a very small, that's a very small proportion.
05:55:34.160
Do you, will you accept this then if there's greater criminality amongst illegal immigrants,
05:55:39.520
would you accept this as an, a fair argument for being against illegal immigration?
05:55:52.160
So then I'll give you a different example then.
05:55:59.220
So first off, very, very like, I think it's less than one, 1% of men would ever commit
05:56:05.900
You can look at crime statistics that will back this up.
05:56:09.420
Additionally, this is a very convenient feminist statistic.
05:56:14.380
If the definition makes it impossible for the woman to commit the crime, then of course,
05:56:20.620
by definition, only, if only men can commit the crime, which is the case in a lot of the
05:56:26.560
way that, that the legally and for criminal justice purposes, the definition makes it impossible
05:56:34.480
Wouldn't it make sense then that, yeah, 99% of people who rape are men.
05:56:41.880
But if you look at jurisdictional definitions of the crime of rape, it literally is impossible
05:56:48.660
for women to, women can commit other forms of sexual assault.
05:56:56.080
But when we're looking at crime statistics, we're talking about the legal definition of
05:57:00.840
So there could be like a understanding of the term rape that is more like a cultural or
05:57:06.900
social understanding of this term where somebody like sexually assaults a person.
05:57:11.680
But if the legal definition precludes women from being convicted of the crime of rape,
05:57:16.500
then yes, the statistics would reflect that, yeah, a greater proportion of men are rapists
05:57:21.720
because women cannot meet the definition of rape.
05:57:30.960
If the definition of rape means that there needs to be a penetrative act, you need to penetrate
05:57:37.840
For example, a woman who like forced herself upon a man and she made him penetrate her,
05:57:55.720
But if the, if the statistics about 99%, if it wasn't, okay, it is the statistics, the
05:58:02.020
statistics, the statistics are looking at the legal definition.
05:58:07.400
And if you've met the criteria for being culpable under criminal law.
05:58:15.800
Women can be, women can be guilty of other forms of sexual assault that people might consider
05:58:21.620
it to be rape, but in the statistics you're citing to, many jurisdictions do not consider
05:58:30.160
I know you disagree with that, but it's, it's true by law.
05:58:35.060
But the statistics are like way too high for that.
05:58:39.740
So are you saying the statistics are wrong because of by definition?
05:58:43.420
I'm saying that feminists like to cherry pick statistics and they're misleading about the
05:58:48.760
definitions as it relates to the crimes committed.
05:58:58.140
If it was the case that there was a certain criminal act and we gave that, that criminal
05:59:03.200
sexual assault, a specific term, I don't know, we'll call it muck duck or something, but
05:59:11.980
Then yeah, it would make sense for me to be able to say, well, 99% of women or 99% of muck
05:59:18.900
Well, if the definition itself only basically allows women to commit the crime, then yeah,
05:59:29.380
Can you please justify how, um, to the previous conversation with the bear and the man, can
05:59:34.940
you please justify how, let's say a group of people would choose, um, the bear over the
05:59:46.760
I think it's racist, but you have a sort of double standard that you're applying here.
06:00:00.600
Well, they had a, they had a personal negative experience with a man or multiple men.
06:00:06.540
And then they also hear stories perhaps on the internet or in news reports that men are
06:00:12.700
more likely to commit certain, uh, assaults or violent acts or whatever it is.
06:00:17.920
And so why couldn't that same justification be used as it relates to rate, uh, as it relates
06:00:25.660
So for example, let's say a white person has been victimized by a black person.
06:00:32.060
I would still think it's racist because you can't paint with a broad.
06:00:36.960
You can't just say like this entire group, I'm going to judge this entire group because
06:00:42.580
I had one, two, three, four, five bad experiences with members of that entire group.
06:00:48.220
So what would stop a white person from saying, yes, I was victimized once, twice, three times
06:00:56.080
And I see all these, uh, people online who also have been victimized, white people have
06:01:02.880
And that is now my justification for my racist beliefs.
06:01:07.360
But what percentage of crimes are made by black people that have them?
06:01:11.240
Well, are you sure you want to go down this road?
06:01:13.060
So if I could present to you crime statistics that indicate that black people are more likely
06:01:17.900
to be over, if black people are more likely to be overrepresented in certain violent crime
06:01:23.000
statistics, or for example, the fact that black on white crime is orders of magnitude greater
06:01:29.560
So black people are much more likely to assault, to rob, and to murder white people than the
06:01:38.620
But even saying that, I don't think white people should be racist towards black people.
06:01:43.840
Even if the statistics seem to indicate that black people are way more likely to, to, uh,
06:01:49.160
assault or murder white people than the reverse.
06:01:51.480
But like, I'm what, like 99%, uh, what's the percentage of crimes made by men overall compared
06:01:58.560
to black men in specific that would have the white group react that way towards a black
06:02:04.280
You know, I feel like it's justified for me to choose the bear over the man because
06:02:16.300
It doesn't matter what religion, sex, whatever you are.
06:02:19.320
I mean, if it's for my safety, like that's, it's not the same thing.
06:02:22.720
It's not about your safety at the end of the day.
06:02:26.080
Making judgments based on one or two bad experiences.
06:02:28.200
I mean, how many, like, how many, what's the percentage of murders that are men?
06:02:35.960
Then why are you asking if you don't even know?
06:02:50.120
What we need to look up is how many bear, how many people have been killed by bear attacks or
06:02:54.620
The only thing is that most murders actually happen between married couples.
06:03:00.040
I'm thinking about it logistically in the sense of, like, a bear.
06:03:03.980
I'd rather take my chances getting shredded up by a bear and, like, killed and left for
06:03:08.100
dead than, like, being assaulted or something like that, like, sexually.
06:03:12.900
And that goes for anyone, like, in the middle of the woods.
06:03:14.720
Like, I'd be freaked out if I was, like, hiking and someone just came out.
06:03:17.360
So you're calling, like, and that follows you forever.
06:03:20.940
I guess that's, yeah, really all it is for me is just, like, I would rather, I would
06:03:24.760
Like, get, like, shredded up by a bear and, like, mauled than, like, left with, like,
06:03:29.300
How are men bigger predators than apex predators?
06:03:34.220
Like, because they're one or two bad experiences.
06:03:36.140
Because they're destroying the world more than bears.
06:03:38.460
Like, the likelihood of a man assaulting me comparatively to, like, a bear.
06:03:43.960
The likelihood of a hungry bear eating you is really high.
06:03:48.920
Wait, if it's a hungry bear and a very sexual man?
06:03:56.080
If I were asked about the bear or man scenario, but it was a woman instead of a man, I would
06:04:01.520
choose the woman because I could ditch her in the woods and avoid a false allegation and
06:04:14.520
Or he could do that, run away like a sassy man.
06:04:19.820
In the example, though, where a white person picks a bear over a black person, I think many
06:04:24.060
people in society would recognize that as a sign of racism.
06:04:27.880
But it seems like it's somewhat acceptable for women to express this sort of generalized
06:04:35.740
broad fear, hatred, sexism, bigotry towards men because of negative past experiences.
06:04:43.480
We wouldn't, by this logic, then you would have to accept that it's reasonable for someone
06:04:50.460
to be racist if they themselves had bad experiences, like a white person had bad experiences with
06:04:56.180
You would have to justify their racism under your logic.
06:05:05.600
So if we, okay, if we, like, for example, if a white person has had a bad experience with
06:05:10.500
a black person, I would be against them being, like, them saying, oh, well, I'm just, my
06:05:20.660
If we reject racism based on individual experiences, we should also reject sexism based on individual
06:05:30.380
Yeah, but I have no individual experiences like that.
06:05:36.100
But when you do that, you open the door to genuine racists who can cite to crime statistics
06:05:41.140
that indicate that black people are overrepresented in crime.
06:06:00.540
It's judging somebody based off of their appearance, sex, race, or religious orientation, etc.
06:06:07.220
But me personally, I'm just saying I would choose the bear over the man.
06:06:19.700
Look, the bear thing, I think women just, they greatly underestimate the risk profile.
06:06:24.600
of an encounter with a random bear, and greatly overestimate the risk profile of an encounter
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Going around the table, you agree with the statement.
06:07:09.680
Oh, like, body count, because I mean, in that context, like, what I'm thinking of is, because
06:07:24.060
If you're only with, I mean, like, if you're in a committed relationship with that person
06:07:27.660
moving forward, and you guys are exclusive, and you've, like, talked about it, and you're
06:07:31.540
not seeing anyone else, and you're tested all good, and you're tested all good, then I don't
06:07:35.220
see why it would be an issue, you know, if you're not interacting with anybody else.
06:07:40.200
I feel like it's a personal preference, genuinely.
06:07:42.640
I think that, like, I wouldn't say it's wrong to not want to be with someone because
06:07:52.160
I don't, I, personally, I don't see why you would have a problem with it, if you are genuinely
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only being with that person moving forward, you know what I mean, and that's, like, what
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You're kind of baking in all these scenarios where you're only with this person, so you're
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baking in loyalty, you're baking in that they're clean.
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I mean, well, yeah, I mean, like, well, because those, I mean, those circumstances matter.
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I feel like my body count would matter a lot more if I had, like, HIV versus, like, you
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know, like, not having anything at all, because then that's, like, well, there's a reason why.
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A woman's past should not matter, why is that, Kylie?
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Well, you agree, a woman's past should not matter.
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If you're, like, a nice, respectful person, like, it shouldn't really matter.
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I don't think it matters as long as you, like, have a talk with whoever you're with
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in a committed relationship, like, if you are tested, yeah, it shouldn't matter.
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She's clean, and she's honest about it, and the partner is, like, okay with it, it shouldn't
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Honestly, I don't think her past should matter like that.
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If she's a good person at heart, then I feel like that matters more.
06:09:24.680
Um, yeah, I don't think a woman's past should matter.
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Honestly, I feel like just have a conversation about getting tested and stuff like that,
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Okay, uh, so going around the table, uh, if passion and matter, body count doesn't matter,
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I don't know if I feel comfortable answering that.
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I just don't, I don't know, it's not something I really disclose.
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Chad, didn't she say something, uh, in essence, or, um, uh, along those lines?
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Yeah, I could have sworn she said something about it.
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If I did say that, that was definitely not intentional.
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It's like single digit, but it'd be hard to lose track at that point.
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Ballpark, I mean, like, ballparking it would be, like, still giving you a number.
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Um, I don't really feel comfortable with that, but single digit as well.
06:10:48.740
But weren't, didn't you have a phase where you, like, hooking up with a bunch of people?
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But there was the guy in the ice cream parking lot.
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There was, there was a couple, there was a couple guys you went over to their house and just fucked right away.
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I know, but that was, like, over and over again.
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I would say in, like, in the 10s, like, 13 or so.
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Well, that's actually, I don't want to disclose that.
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Oh, well, I guess you're going to have to confirm.
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I actually never counted, but I know it's, it's double digits at least.
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It might be, but I never counted, so I don't know.
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A lot of energy exchanges, a lot of information exchanges, yes.
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Because my parents were trying to manifest me to get pregnant, so I could get stuck at
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Yeah, they wanted me to have a teen pregnancy, and they kept trying to manifest it for me.
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Your parents were trying to manifest you getting pregnant?
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Like, a site would say all the time, like, you're going to get pregnant.
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I wasn't even having sex at the time, so it was crazy.
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And just because for me, I didn't know myself when I was younger, and I just would do stuff.
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Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
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Has anybody had sex with two people in a 24-hour period?
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Three separate, different, not like a foursome.
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You know how many orgies started in front of me, though, that I didn't join?
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But there's a lot of orgies that happened in front of me.
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I was always, like, the one that would just sit back when there was, like...
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I think I've witnessed, like, four or five orgies, and I've always, like, sat back.
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I was, like, the only one, too, or, like, maybe there was one other person.
06:14:20.700
How about anybody been with two guys in a 72-hour period?
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Would you date a guy who previously had sex with men?
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And I know some of you are going to say yes, because, well, looking at Kylie here.
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What do you date a guy who previously had sex with men?
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Like, if they're a bottom, does that change anything?
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I mean, like, are they a bottom, like, when we're together?
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They're your preference in terms of how you like sex.
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Would any of you date a guy who previously had sex with prostitutes?
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And I think that's only because I don't think I would be with anyone who paid for sex.
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But he just fucked a couple prostitutes back in the day.
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If that was, like, really what it was and, like, you know, I don't know.
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Like, you were investing, like, thousands of dollars on sex?
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It'd probably be $2,000 or $3,000, ten different prostitutes.
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Like, that, to me, just seems financially irresponsible.
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All right, we're not going to get a straight answer.
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I don't think so, but it depends on the circumstances.
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Like, not a hobby, but, like, if they just kept...
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But, I mean, I would date them because their past don't matter.
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And I would feel like that's where communication brings in.
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And you're, like, the testing and stuff like that.
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So as long as there's, like, awareness on both sides.
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I'm going to catch that man in my lingerie and have to dump him.
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If a woman's past and body count shouldn't matter, then a man's income shouldn't matter.
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His waist, height, or even weight shouldn't matter.
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His preference for younger women shouldn't matter.
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I really agree with this one because the things that women want from men, men can't really change.
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But the things men want from women, women can change.
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Like, taking care of ourselves, going to the gym, et cetera.
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If you're paying money in the moment, providing in the moment, the shit is in the past.
06:19:06.200
I mean, like, so, you were a prostitute in the past or you, whatever, in the past.
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In the moment, if you guys both stopped and you're just loving each other, that's what
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Chef Dylan, thank you for the big $200 super chat, man.
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Well, she said she didn't, like, she was born in China.
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Chloe, transgender individuals do not have a duty to disclose to romantic partners.
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No, like, when too many people try to talk to me, and I just don't want to talk to all
06:20:44.780
Somebody who has an argument on this, though, so do not have a duty to disclose.
06:20:55.940
Some people prefer not to tell, which I feel like I can't really speak on, because I don't
06:21:00.920
know that type of experience, especially from someone like me, who doesn't have a preference
06:21:07.760
for gender, but for other people, they do mind, so I feel like that's not really my place
06:21:13.300
to speak on, since it's a black and white question, just people prefer differently.
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But knowing that there are people out there who do care about it, shouldn't there be some
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duty, if you're trans, to let the other person know ahead of time?
06:21:30.920
Well, I don't know if that's, like, my place to speak, because I'm not trans, so I don't
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know, but I've heard arguments on both sides being, like, I would like to know.
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I forgot what the reason was that they would like to know, but...
06:21:42.460
So you don't sleep, like, if you're straight, so that you don't sleep with a man?
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I feel like I don't really know how to answer that question.
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Oh, I think I read the question wrong, so I would like to change my answer.
06:22:00.480
Well, the next one, a man dating a transgender woman is straight.
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You three, why is it straight for a man to date a transgender woman?
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They thought they are, they were dating a girl.
06:22:39.220
Well, okay, then I think that should be a crime, to be honest, but...
06:22:46.200
Kylie, why, why is it straight for a man dating, to date a transgender woman?
06:22:52.500
I mean, straight relationships between a man and a woman, but I think people have different
06:22:57.360
opinions on that, because it's supposed to be, they say, like, oh, biologically male
06:23:02.060
I just see it as male and female, so it doesn't really matter to me.
06:23:11.040
I mean, even granting that somebody can change their gender, you're still, like, well, here,
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I don't think, I don't, I think it has a really simple answer, but what is a woman?
06:23:55.420
Well, because, like, what makes a woman a woman, though?
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So, a transgender woman was not born as a woman.
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I don't really know how to answer that or speak on that.
06:24:37.700
Well, you realize, like, babies aren't coherent enough to understand, like, gender identity.
06:25:14.220
For me, a woman is, like, who is born with, like, the biological, like, the ovaries and...
06:25:35.100
Are you counting, like, plastic surgery and, like, there are transgender women?
06:25:39.280
No, because I think transgender women can change that.
06:25:52.700
Under your definition of what is a woman, does a transgender woman fit your definition
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I mean, honestly, I don't really know that type of stuff, to be honest with you, so I
06:26:17.120
This, like, straight thing, though, my confusion here is...
06:26:23.460
My confusion is, I mean, to Kylie, a man dating a transgender woman is straight.
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I just respect what I see on the internet, so...
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For the sake of the argument, I'll just grant it.
06:27:11.000
People can change their gender identity, I suppose.
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Two males, regardless of their gender identity...
06:28:38.300
Kylie, you also said that wrong to refuse to date a transgender person because they are trans.
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So the statement is wrong to refuse to date a transgender person because they are trans.
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Is it wrong for me to not want to date a transgender person?
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Well, I mean, yeah, I think I should change that.
06:29:59.280
If I was taking any of you on a dinner date, I ask you all body count, it is more than five
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I will walk away from the table, pay my half of the bill, and block any contact.
06:30:16.840
Wow, that's a great foundation for a relationship.
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I'm kinda waiting for the rest of the group to get back until I jump into the other stuff,
06:30:36.880
but let me see if there's anything else in the notes for any of the particular guests.
06:31:10.240
You met one of your date's exes at work before we went on a date.
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Like, I think it's just, like, if we're, like, committed, then there's, like...
06:31:38.380
But, like, at first, like, I just wanna, you know, see if you can be a man and, like,
06:31:56.760
Uh, you also wanted to talk about having sex on the first date?
06:32:00.240
Um, I think I've encountered a lot of men that, like, immediately go towards that.
06:32:06.680
And, like, I was saying earlier about, like, I've gotten, like, asked to hang out from guys.
06:32:11.900
And, like, that's something that they've, like, initiated before.
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I've encountered a lot of guys that, like, immediately just go into that.
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It just makes me feel like I'm just being used.
06:33:09.500
And I've made mistakes that I honestly didn't know my boundaries.
06:33:22.020
And you start to, like, really put into your boundaries and stuff like that.
06:33:28.120
You said how to tell someone you've cheated on them.
06:33:43.080
Also, you said that just how men are more sassier than ever.
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The fact that you're talking about the princess era is definitely sassy.
06:34:01.000
And someone out there will be willing to give you whatever you want.
06:34:04.020
But because I've dealt with a sassy man before, and it's just, like, I've dealt with multiple
06:34:08.440
sassy men before, and I'm just, like, I think most of them are, like, mama's boys, first
06:34:17.520
I think happy men are, like, so much more open with being that way.
06:34:21.880
I don't think women should be sassy either, though.
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Like, obviously, I've done that where I'm, like, sassy as fuck.
06:34:28.800
But the reason I say this, and, look, the social order I would like to see, nobody's
06:34:33.880
sassy, women are women, men are men, we all have our, you know, duties, responsibilities,
06:34:47.280
Women have forsaken any of their duties or responsibilities or traditional gender roles,
06:34:58.180
Like, women have, at no other point in human history, have been more fucking free and independent
06:35:08.640
Never have they been more promiscuous, none of this shit.
06:35:12.300
But now, you still want men to be adhering to their traditional gender roles.
06:35:18.160
That depends, because I think there's some women.
06:35:23.560
Yeah, there's some women who are traditional, and there's some men who are not traditional.
06:35:27.440
Like, when I'm saying these things, I'm not denying that...
06:35:33.300
Like, it's not a claim that, oh, there are no women who meet this metric.
06:35:44.720
The general trend I see is not the woman is a submissive fucking trying to be a trad housewife
06:35:56.100
The trend I see is closer to she's done fucked 10 guys by the time she's 20.
06:36:09.620
Well, I feel like social media has done a lot to play its part.
06:36:13.400
Yes, social media has definitely fucking fucked up a bunch of shit.
06:36:16.400
The oldest and first job is prostitution, actually.
06:36:19.340
It's fucking fisherman dork, because how did the original guy pay for the fucking pussy?
06:36:30.460
Yeah, but still, the oldest for women is probably prostitution.
06:36:33.980
That was kind of punny, using the word dork there in a fishing sentence.
06:36:51.800
I mean, that's what it says online, but you're right.
06:36:55.540
You don't even know, because you weren't there either, but that's what it says online.
06:36:58.820
But you're also doing the same thing that you said that you're assuming.
06:37:01.780
You're doing this appeal to, like, historicity.
06:37:04.140
Oh, okay, well, way back in the day, there was prostitutes, so therefore, prostitution
06:37:09.120
should be okay today, because it happened a really long time ago.
06:37:14.600
Do you think that we should bring that back, too?
06:37:17.340
I don't know, but all I know is a lot of girls that do it, do it to survive and other
06:37:21.420
things like that, so if you take that into account, you shouldn't be judging them in that
06:37:29.220
Also, Jesus, again, Jesus chose to be with a prostitute and got her out of that.
06:37:37.860
That's what you want people to think, because it goes against what you believe, but that's
06:37:40.960
not true, so you could just think that, but the truth is the truth.
06:37:46.220
It even says it in the Bible, so if you're Catholic, then there you go.
06:37:54.920
And actually, most of the Bible was changed, and they took a lot of books out, and they
06:37:58.780
burnt them because they didn't like how feminist they actually, it was, so they changed it
06:38:03.860
to be super toxic, masculine by burning, and taking out a bunch of books.
06:38:07.320
Mary Magdalene had a child with Jesus, and she was a prostitute.
06:38:16.380
And then when you find out the truth, eventually, then you'll look like the idiot for making
06:38:26.460
Here, let's get back into the questionnaire, since we have Alex back.
06:38:30.300
That's why he got her out of it, so that she didn't have to suffer, because she had a
06:38:38.760
You should never judge someone by their past, but who they are in the moment, because it's
06:38:41.720
not like you're living in the past, you're living in the moment, so.
06:38:44.920
All right, so Erica, you're in an age gap relationship, 20 years.
06:38:49.160
You're married, never been happier or healthier.
06:38:54.820
He has a vasectomy, so no accidents happening over here.
06:38:58.900
And then you said, when you were first casually dating, you tried to friend zone.
06:39:09.140
I was going through a lot of drama, and I was like, this guy's great.
06:39:12.760
I don't want him to be around all this drama and see all this shitty shit.
06:39:17.540
So I tried to cut him off, and he's like, yeah, no.
06:39:23.140
And the first guy ever to tell me no, first off.
06:39:25.760
And second off, yeah, within a month, I was hitting that guy up, because no other guy
06:39:33.340
So you tried to friend zone him, and he was like, respectfully, no.
06:39:37.100
Literally just flat out told me, no, hit me up when you want to have fun.
06:39:42.880
You said that you think dating as a teenager is where you went wrong.
06:39:46.540
You watch your little sister become one of the most well-rounded young adults because
06:39:53.740
She's 19, not only graduated high school, but two terms of college.
06:39:58.440
She wants to become a police officer and eventually an FBI investigator.
06:40:05.980
You said that you believe strongly in traditional values.
06:40:09.200
You do your best to fulfill a wifely role even before marriage.
06:40:13.780
You also write, you don't think single women should be giving advice.
06:40:20.860
A lot of single women do not want to see you doing better than them.
06:40:29.360
You also said you think most women need therapy before getting into a serious relationship?
06:40:34.460
So they can practice accountability and admitting when they are wrong or acting inappropriately?
06:40:38.620
Yeah, unless your therapist doesn't want to talk to you anymore because you're too
06:40:50.780
That hasn't really been established tonight, but I'm such a dick.
06:40:56.760
You've lived a million lives and so many batshit stories to tell?
06:41:07.040
You said you've been single for six to seven months.
06:41:12.740
But in your notes, you said you're unsure if you're single.
06:41:17.960
Well, I was talking to somebody recently, but I mean, we just ended things, but it was just
06:41:29.400
We were just like talking, getting to know each other.
06:41:35.980
But before that, I was dating somebody that was really nice in the beginning and he is
06:41:49.140
undocumented and his family basically tried to manipulate me into marrying him for the
06:42:00.340
And when I found out, it became a domestic violence thing.
06:42:16.620
A woman is a biological female with 20 chromosomes, real booba, a womb, and a vague jarja.
06:42:23.920
A trans woman who was born a man but believes he is a she is just plain old mental illness.
06:42:37.340
By the way, the, like, the surgery down there, the bottom surgery, that's not pussy.
06:43:04.000
Guys, you guys have, like, 4,000 nerve endings, right?
06:43:05.960
Only by looking at it, I cannot tell the difference.
06:43:09.140
I just, I don't think that you can mimic those 4,000 nerve endings that create that, that
06:43:20.620
We've got some science deniers here at the table, it seems like.
06:43:37.860
When a woman expects a man to pay for everything on the first date to entertain her to be manly
06:43:43.400
for her benefit, it makes him feel used, objectified, and even inhuman.
06:43:54.960
It's like, just how inhumane men are being treated nowadays with all this common misandry.
06:44:18.700
By the way, there's audio-only listeners, so just speak it instead of gesturing.
06:44:28.840
What if a white person says they sometimes hate black people?
06:44:38.440
Okay, how about if a man said he sometimes hates women?
06:44:51.060
Like, I can't literally go a single day without opening my phone and seeing, like, a woman getting stabbed, like, 71 times and raped.
06:45:20.260
Why would that give you justification to hate, like, four to five billion people?
06:45:27.640
Why would it sometimes give you justification to hate four to five billion people?
06:45:35.420
So, then a white person who sees all these videos of black people committing crimes against white people, find for them to sometimes hate black people?
06:45:53.700
Bigotry and discrimination can apply to no matter what sex, no matter what gender you are, no matter what religious orientation.
06:46:01.120
What if I saw, I saw a bunch of, every single day, I saw videos of women acting fucking stupid, doing some stupid shit, committing, you know, whatever it is.
06:46:11.520
Would that give me justification to sometimes hate women?
06:46:22.100
Like, this woman in Australia lit some guy on fire pretty recently.
06:46:32.380
Your true colors are really coming through here, by the way.
06:46:37.200
I don't think it would be, like, appropriate for me to laugh if, like...
06:46:42.220
I've never heard of anyone lighting someone on fire.
06:46:59.860
There was this police body cam video of, I think, a woman who killed, like, her two sons.
06:47:25.880
Just letting you know, you're kind of a little bigoted towards men.
06:47:29.700
I mean, like, just saying, like, it is sometimes, you know, sometimes they do good things, sometimes
06:47:33.200
they do bad things, and I feel like I hear more...
06:47:35.740
Well, then why don't you just say something more, like, digestible?
06:47:40.300
Like, I hate this particular person who did that.
06:47:45.440
Like, why not just say, the person who did the bad thing, I hate them.
06:47:48.840
It's just when you hear it so many times, that's just how you're going to feel.
06:47:51.620
The same exact logic can be applied to anti-black racists.
06:48:01.440
It's a dangerous game you guys are fucking playing because you open the door logically
06:48:08.440
to allowing the exact kind of racism and other sort of discrimination you're against.
06:48:20.400
I think the lack of sympathy towards men, their sacrifices, and their suffering is really
06:48:25.120
why there's an inhumanity being shown towards men.
06:48:28.960
It's just, it's not fair that you guys are having to go through as much as you're having
06:48:31.980
to go through just because women are entitled to live a soft, easy life.
06:48:44.000
It's just sad what you guys have to go through.
06:48:48.680
But you guys also are trying to say it's worse for men, but that's the same thing as
06:48:52.200
doing what she's doing, but you don't see it yet.
06:48:55.020
I just, I don't really, I'm not really listening to the false victimhood.
06:49:03.060
I'm sorry, you're literally living in your own little imaginary world.
06:49:06.340
So I don't know how we can even begin to have the same perception.
06:49:13.660
Like, I don't like hating people, you know, but it's just, like I said, it is really hard
06:49:22.080
But every once in a while, like, it's just like, you can't stop that feeling.
06:49:26.020
Like, so if I take it away off of race and I just do a reversal and say, if men frequently
06:49:34.080
have bad experiences with women or they see things, you're, this isn't a different thing.
06:49:41.280
You're not, you can't say, oh, well, it's race is different.
06:49:45.780
Because to be clear, you're fine with men saying the same, having the same framing towards
06:49:53.460
It's just, when I'm saying it, it's just, I'm looking at, like, statistics of, like,
06:50:03.980
When they're doing it, it's like, oh, she cheated on me, which is obviously, like, I
06:50:09.740
Oh, she cheated on me or, oh, she's manipulative or something.
06:50:16.280
But when I'm saying, oh, sometimes I hate men, that's what I'm thinking about.
06:50:20.820
I'm not thinking, oh, I hate men because, oh, you know, maybe they're manipulative or
06:50:28.660
And that's, that's what makes me feel that way.
06:50:30.440
I understand it's wrong sometimes to think like that.
06:50:34.840
And that's why I said sometimes, you know, just clarifying.
06:50:40.000
See, this is a common, common, like, feminist tactic where you want to.
06:50:50.420
You're going to exaggerate the ways in which women are victimized or grieved upon.
06:51:00.000
And you're going to diminish the ways in which men are victimized or grieved upon.
06:51:11.600
To the benefit of your position, you were not charitable at all.
06:51:14.980
To the degree, to the ways in which men face difficulties in life or they have complications
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That's the, you're basically saying that's the worst experience men can have with women.
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And then you're saying, I mean, I'm just compare that to rape.
06:51:35.560
Like at least be intellectually honest where you're doing a fair accounting of here's all
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the, here's the ways in which men can be treated poorly by women and give that like.
06:51:57.780
You did a comparison of women, all men have to deal with is cheating.
06:52:05.000
That's so bad faith and just not like portraying an accurate representation.
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Like for example, that'd be like me saying men deal with false accusations by women.
06:52:15.520
And, uh, sometimes the guy on a date, he, uh, wants to split the bill.
06:52:21.640
You would be like, well, hold on, Brian, that's fucking bullshit.
06:52:31.000
But I also did just admit that the way I felt, which was sometimes was wrong.
06:52:38.920
We're going to move it on just for the sake of time.
06:52:41.440
While we're going around the table on, I forgot after like a minute.
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We're going to blast through these last few things here.
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There is a news report about female teachers sleeping with their underage male students
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or a woman failing paternity testing, et cetera, et cetera.
06:53:23.940
Ladies, you should do a social experiment this next week or so.
06:53:26.680
Ask all your guy friends how many of them lost their virginity to an older woman and your
06:53:54.700
Queen D, you said you think modern dating is harder nowadays because nobody really meets
06:54:01.120
And it's just more like a cycle of having to ask them what they like to do when going
06:54:06.880
It's impossible to find someone real and genuine because of what they put online.
06:54:18.880
It's just harder to find someone authentically, like in person where, like when I do find
06:54:28.740
someone, like say a mutual friend or something like that, it's a lot easier to connect with
06:54:34.580
Whereas like when I do find like a date online, they could be like so awesome.
06:54:41.760
And I'm not saying like I'm the best either, but I'm saying like they could be so awesome
06:54:49.880
I just, I don't think any guys are using online dating sites for anything but hookups.
06:54:56.840
I mean, I've came across some guys who are like, yeah, I'm looking for something authentic
06:55:00.860
or like, I'm sure they'll say anything they got to.
06:55:03.540
I'm a hundred percent sure they'll say anything they have to.
06:55:09.580
And that's why you really have to vet out these options before you let them into, you
06:55:13.240
know, into your home, into your pants, into your heart.
06:55:16.160
Like we, we have to vet these people out way in advance before giving them the opportunity
06:55:22.960
You mentioned being like real and genuine though.
06:55:26.880
Uh, I guess my objection to this is, wouldn't you agree that your appearance is not particularly
06:55:39.940
Like I'm like, like on your Instagram, you wear full face of makeup on the regular.
06:55:49.560
You're, you're being a little deceptive about your appearance.
06:55:53.520
I mean, I have gone on dates without makeup or anything on.
06:56:06.160
We, we looked at your, we, we don't have the photos to show the audience, but we looked
06:56:12.140
Not one of the photos that you posted on your hinge profile was you without makeup.
06:56:19.420
It seems like women complain a lot about not finding like real genuine men, but like your
06:56:29.920
I mean, before any like actual date, I actually like try to FaceTime them and usually I'm not
06:56:38.060
wearing makeup when I'm FaceTiming them and they see me without makeup.
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I think I maybe got a text before my first date with my now husband, a text.
06:56:48.240
Men are, men are very like physically, visually driven.
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You, you're obviously trying to make yourself look more attractive than you actually are.
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If makeup didn't make you look better, you wouldn't wear it.
06:57:08.680
I've always tried to think of a, I don't know if what would be the right explanation
06:57:15.520
of this, but imagine if there was like these little teeny micro robots, this would be some
06:57:20.760
futuristic thing that can literally change the visage of your face.
06:57:24.900
Like, and it's this, this mask basically that you put on that looks real.
06:57:28.640
Like it, you can't tell that the person's wearing it and it just totally changes your
06:57:40.220
They'll, they'll change everything to, you basically look like a completely different
06:57:45.120
My question to you women is, would you feel tricked if a guy employed this like future
06:57:51.240
technology technology and he looked not like he was really ugly, but he was using this
06:57:57.500
thing, this future technology that totally changed his face.
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But is it because you can't recognize that they're like wearing them out?
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I mean, like, you know, if I could be like, oh, like there's an outline of a mask on them.
06:58:18.520
Well, yes, obviously the hypothetical scenario with like this future micro micro robot technology
06:58:27.200
But the effect is perhaps not to the same magnitude or scale, but it is still like you're changing
06:58:34.900
You, you look more attractive than you otherwise do.
06:58:46.340
It's literally like they completely change their identity.
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It's just like speaking of my experience, if I put a full beat on, I look like a different,
06:58:52.220
I mean, I look older, but I look like a different person.
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I don't look like me, but I wouldn't say that I'm like less attractive.
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Uh, just honestly, dude, scroll to the very top.
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Maybe not all of it, but just go to the very top.
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I would not be able to tell either of those girls.
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They're still all pretty without makeup though.
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I don't know that it's objectively like better though.
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It's like a lot of men, like, I mean, like don't like women when they wear makeup anyway.
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But it's becoming like a false identity that you're using to like date people.
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Because if I know you're wearing makeup, then maybe I should just start assuming that you
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Honestly, men should just assume that all women wearing makeup are fake and probably not who they're
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I don't think that that's a fair assumption either.
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I think that maybe just assume that the person who's wearing makeup doesn't look the same
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Some guys like it better without, which every guy that I've talked to, they told me that
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they liked me better without it, but I don't wear it for them.
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I'm not going to stand in front of a mirror for hours.
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I think your Instagram bio says that you're a lover of Christ.
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Guys, I'm not going to pull it up, but she's got some, she's got some not very orthodox
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We were talking about her bikini photos earlier.
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Like just because you wear a swimsuit to the beach, but you're not, you can't be Catholic.
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Like I'm not wearing, I'm also wearing a skirt too.
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It'll be a bikini top and then a skirt or like a bikini top and shorts.
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Like a lot of people post like just their bikinis and like their bottoms.
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But you know, the type of attention that you're trying to get and that doesn't, that's not
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Well, it doesn't say in the Bible not to wear a two piece to the beach and then not, and
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But if you think that, you can think that, but yeah, but posting the thirst traps correspondingly.
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I mean, it's just looking good and posting photos automatically make it a thirst trap.
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Look, if you're just like a agnostic or atheist woman, like whatever, but if you're claiming
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to be a Christian, there is some, like, if that's your worldview, that's your belief
07:04:08.480
It is kind of like, there is a component of Christianity that demands modesty.
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Although that's weird, but I, it would be like, for example, I don't have a problem
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with people who eat meat, but if you tell me you're a vegan and then I see you eating
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a steak, I'm like, why the fuck are you eating a steak?
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I don't have a problem with people eating meat, but if you claim, I believe this.
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You personally think that it goes against God and what Christ would want, but that's
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All right, we got a theological fight next for you.
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Well, everyone interprets the Bible differently.
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And I don't mean, like, inherently, like, every single thing.
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Even if they, if I put it in there, they'll say a lot in there.
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I genuinely don't think wearing a bikini means that you're against, like, Christ.
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If I'm wearing a bikini, I post a photo in a bikini.
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No, but I believe my personal relationship with God is more important.
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And I do, and I literally, I do follow my faith, and I do try my best to follow my faith.
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But I feel like it doesn't, like, me posting, like, a bikini picture, like, not even, like, bottom two.
07:05:20.740
I don't care if you post a bikini picture, but if you're an Ethiopian Orthodox Christian,
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that's definitely against Orthodox Christianity to be fucking posting thirst traps on Instagram.
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For the sake of time, got to move it on for the sake of time.
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You said some white dude you went on a date with tried to get you into slave master roleplay.
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I don't think you could waterboard that out of me.
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Behind closed doors, this girl does some crazy shit.
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Dating should be 100% effort from the man and zero effort from the woman until marriage.
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I don't see what a man benefits from that at all.
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You also wrote, don't stop your man from finding your soulmate.
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Because there, I feel like there's so many people out there.
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Like, if your man is stopping you from finding your true soulmate, then honestly leave him.
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Yeah, I hope every guy that ever tries to see you sees this and runs.
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And then also, in your own words, can you say the thing about the 100 effort, zero effort thing?
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Dating should be 100% effort from the man and 0% from the woman before marriage.
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Yes, and I would, if he wears shorts, I'm ending it.
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Because if you're, I feel like if you're showing.
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I feel like you shouldn't be showing your buttocks like that as a man.
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A self-respected man isn't going and posting his bulge on Instagram.
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But if he posts himself, like, topless when, like, swim trunks.
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Is it inappropriate for a man to tell his girlfriend to, like, maybe he doesn't like what she's wearing?
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Is it appropriate for a man to say, or is it inappropriate for a man to say, wear something else?
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It depends what's so inappropriate about it, because my ex would not.
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Like, my ex would not allow me to go in shorts, boots, and a white wife beater.
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Is it controlling for a guy to be like, I don't want you dressing revealing?
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Why don't any of you object to her saying, her man has to wear a suit?
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I don't want him, like, showing off his goods to everyone else.
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We're going to blast through this so I can get people, I can hopefully get this wrapped
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Joe Murphy, who here on the panel knows about the history of feminism?
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Well, does anybody know the phases of feminism?
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Because I don't really know the definition of feminism.
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What's a, to you then, since you're only the person, only person who responded, what is
07:10:15.320
Like, I mean, like, literally, simplistically having the same, like, rights and opportunities
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as men, and, like, literally just meaning, like, we have the ability to do and engage in the
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same things that men can, um, you know, with equal, like, consequences.
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Like, I don't know if I want to go work in the mine, then, like, that's acknowledging
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I'm subjecting myself to working in a mine, but having the opportunity to, you know what
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You want to have the opportunity to, but also don't want to do the thing that would make
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men and women equal, but okay, we have some more chats coming through.
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Instead of acknowledging I'll die in a mine if I work in a mine.
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The person was on the show, first time commenting.
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The original career for women was not prostitution.
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We're talking about, like, an actual building with actual, like, management.
07:11:26.380
Women who wear makeup that drastically changes their looks have insecurity issues and have
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difficulty accepting themselves for who they are, including their natural looks.
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I just don't think you can convince me to sit in front of my mirror for three hours just
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When I started wearing makeup, it was out of insecurity.
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I think it transitioned into more, like, I just didn't enjoy this thing.
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I glue caterpillars to my eyes, shave my eyebrows off to draw them on, inject my face so I don't
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have wrinkles, fill my lips so I look like a sucker fish, because I want people to love
07:12:18.200
Brian, we have Russian Orthodox chocolates for you.
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We can send you chocolates for each postmodern feminist on your panel.
07:12:30.340
No, I think he's just sending me the chocolates.
07:12:35.500
Joe Murphy's not sending you guys any chocolates.
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A real case study for why no one should do drugs.
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I'm glad my Christian denomination doesn't approve in our core beliefs.
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I've been through more ego deaths than you in this life.
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Blasting through the final things here on the questionnaire.
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Alex, women are just as physically strong as men.
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You could take either of the dudes in here right now.
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I mean, if you threw me out, like, against, like, some, like, five...
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With all due to, like, self-respect, I'm a chronically ill, like...
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Like, I don't think I could beat anyone, even, like, my own size.
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I know this is how she says Nick instead of Brian.
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I think you could do it with a hand tied behind his back.
07:14:33.740
Wait, do you do jiu-jitsu or, like, high school wrestling?
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Yeah, and I gained a lot of experience from it.
07:14:54.520
No, but I've wrestled all my friends that wrestled.
07:15:09.540
Wait, so I wrestled in high school, too, so I'm a pretty good guesser when it comes
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I want to say, wait, stand up, and I can tell you.
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Wrestlers can look at somebody and be like, they weigh this much.
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So, but when I was bigger, I was able to take down bigger mass.
07:16:12.140
So, we would have crossed paths and I would have just pinned you.
07:16:19.020
I would have just about teched you and then I would have pinned you.
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But so, in wrestling, you can either pin somebody to win.
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So, to tech somebody is to score 15 points more than them.
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I don't know why I thought you meant something else.
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I'm still friends with like old, like high school wrestling, whatever.
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Please don't cut the camera when tears start growing.
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Wait, so, but you said women are just as physically strong as men.
07:18:02.020
No, I was just speaking in my experience, personally.
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I'm just saying I would be able to physically take down most men.
07:18:10.420
But, so, women are just as physically strong as men, right?
07:18:22.220
Generally, if they're both the same age and the same weight, yeah.
07:18:47.360
But, yeah, maybe, okay, yeah, men are physically.
07:18:51.500
Wait, so, Alex, you also said women are just as physically strong as men.
07:19:00.980
No, but generally, are men stronger than women?
07:19:05.800
It's like, why do you think that we need, like, tasers?
07:19:09.080
If I want to, like, nitpick, I'd say, like, no, just because it depends on what man and
07:19:16.940
But, like, generally, I mean, like, I feel like.
07:19:26.160
So, like, you know, I don't feel like that's really, like, a sexist thing to say.
07:19:32.940
Well, I just think, like, size-wise and also, like.
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Well, I'm prepared to say that a woman of the same height and the same weight, the man
07:19:44.140
Doesn't that have to do with, like, scientifically, like, muscle mass?
07:19:50.900
Which, but then, and I feel like at that point, then it becomes a matter of, like, you know,
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if you put, like, a man with more muscle naturally, like, with a woman who has, like, you know,
07:20:02.380
Like, hand-to-hand, like, they know, like, self-defense.
07:20:04.420
Like, you might maybe probably as stronger in that scenario.
07:20:13.300
But I would agree that, yeah, there's definitely women who could beat up men.
07:20:18.700
There's definitely women who are stronger than men.
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Generally speaking, most men are stronger than most women.
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No, I mean, like, obviously, I think about, like, the technicalities.
07:20:34.800
I've been playing devil's advocate this whole time.
07:20:36.600
But, like, if you put me in a room with a bunch of men, I'd probably be scared of, like,
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Also, men are just more physically intimidating just to look at.
07:20:43.960
As women, we average, you could fit, like, two of our heads on our shoulders.
07:20:47.440
Men could fit, like, three of their heads on their freaking shoulders.
07:21:21.580
If you wanted to participate in that segment, you should have circled it.
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No, but real quick, I do want to say something, because I was trying to say.
07:21:26.900
It's actually, it's proven that most women's lower body strength is actually stronger than
07:21:33.520
And actually, there's a test you could do with a chair.
07:21:36.780
And I actually wasn't even thinking that, but I thought I did circle it.
07:21:39.160
But I just thought of that while we were speaking.
07:21:42.280
Yeah, because we did it with the biggest guy at my, the best football player, the biggest
07:21:46.980
And we did the chair test and I lifted it and he couldn't, because he has less body, lower
07:21:51.120
body strength than me because of our hips, the chair.
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But anyways, I just want to say that, even though I didn't circle it, the actual like legitimate
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It's like a whole, it has to do with our hips and how we have children.
07:22:08.560
But even if we were to, so I just thought of that, even if we were to grant that whatever
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you're saying is true, I find it somewhat dubious.
07:22:17.620
Yeah, no, I'm talking about every, yeah, I was saying that even, but okay, see, there
07:22:26.780
General, even men, when it comes to generalized lower body strength.
07:22:31.660
So the legs, men are stronger than women in their legs.
07:22:38.080
No, generally it's, if you've seen most women, most women I see have bigger legs and hips
07:22:45.100
So yeah, that doesn't mean on average, on average, which you're saying is the same with
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It's, you don't like it when someone goes against you with the same thing.
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Because their upper body strength too has to go and play with it.
07:23:10.460
I didn't realize we're running on all four legs.
07:23:14.300
It's literally every part of your body, not just your legs.
07:23:16.140
If you think that, then you need to look up the scientific proof.
07:23:20.760
Like you guys say to us, look up the scientific proof.
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Cause it's easy to look up everything I'm saying about the chair and let me look, let
07:23:28.580
If we were, if we were to, your arms have nothing to do with it, your body at all.
07:23:35.860
That's really, that's really, that's really, that's nice.
07:23:45.640
Because you keep trying to skip over when I say, you didn't, you didn't circle the thing.
07:23:52.980
Maybe you should have thought of that when you were answering the questionnaire lady.
07:23:56.880
So if we were to cut off the upper body of men and assuming the pert, they could survive
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Cause you're saying, well, men's upper body strength helps them with sprinting.
07:24:09.500
Perhaps there's a component of sprinting that does involve the upper body movements.
07:24:13.520
However, if we were to chop off the upper bodies of men and women, men would still win
07:24:19.060
in the, men would still win in the sprint due to their, uh, their, their greater capacity
07:24:24.320
or because they're smaller down there usually than most women, not because of strength.
07:24:29.620
Most, most runners, they have small skinny legs that are guys like that.
07:24:32.780
Most of them, but like long distance, long distance, except for the hundred meter.
07:24:37.020
That's the only time that this doesn't go into play.
07:24:38.880
The only time, but most of the other races, they have smaller legs and with the long distance
07:25:04.000
This is a primary lower, this is a lower body exercise.
07:25:14.840
And not, maybe not on, I don't know about average, but.
07:25:23.180
No, because everything I'm saying, you can actually look up too.
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And I talked about, I was talking about from here down.
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And you don't, you don't like it that I'm right.
07:25:51.260
Every single metric by which we measure strength, men outperform women.
07:26:04.240
Cause if it's happening physically, that's not proof.
07:26:07.180
See how that's really problematic and really not honest?
07:26:11.260
Handmaker says men on average have 40 to 60 stronger, lower body strength than women.
07:26:22.360
But you guys are just saying, referring to leg lifts and I don't know.
07:26:26.240
Bro, the only stronger muscle a woman has is her fucking tongue.
07:26:31.980
It's literally their, their, like their actual hips too.
07:26:36.820
Cause a guy, a guy, if you guys are both, if your heads are both against the wall and
07:26:42.700
the chair's right here, you're both, you're both like this with the chair, the guy would
07:26:48.920
I don't even know, but he won't be able to lift it.
07:26:50.980
That's the only time that, that, where that doesn't go into it.
07:26:59.740
If, even if there's one exercise that like women can do better for like, and I never,
07:27:09.520
There's one specific, uh, long distance racing event.
07:27:13.100
Like it's really long distance where women do outperform men.
07:27:16.500
I can't remember the exact distance it is, but it's a long distance running event.
07:27:21.440
I didn't, that doesn't negate the fact that in all other measurements of lower body physical
07:27:28.800
strength, whether it's running, whether it's weightlifting, whether it's just any other
07:27:33.380
measurable way of how people measure leg strength, lower body strength, whatever men outperform
07:27:42.960
Most of the women aren't working out constantly.
07:27:45.360
Cause if the women, no, no, no, cause if the women are working out, if the women are working
07:27:49.020
out just as much as these men, which on average, women are working out their lower body.
07:28:01.040
I'm a Gen Z, black, Christian, and have a desire to get married one day.
07:28:06.400
I honestly see hope for our generation in regards to relationships.
07:28:15.700
Cause they don't see that they're just as much as a problem as most women.
07:28:33.100
I think I heard tears in your voice when you said that.
07:29:13.420
Brian, the girl next to you seems that she wants to milk you.
07:29:25.100
She's just enthusiastic about the topics tonight.
07:29:38.900
I am pretty sure that you believe you are a god yourself.
07:29:43.680
Another drug user told me Christianity teaches this, too.
07:29:51.320
I, yeah, we all are gods, but I don't see myself as god because that would not be the truth.
07:30:01.200
The people that, because the people that don't care, they subject themselves to a lower freak,
07:30:06.320
like, a lower everything, like, they just belittle themselves in every way.
07:30:10.340
So they don't love themselves as much as someone like us.
07:30:19.700
They expect above and beyond, but they can't even give a little bit of respect.
07:30:56.440
He could have said you're like a Vice City hooker.
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That's the one where you open the game and she's got a lollipop, right?
07:31:16.340
That I'm the smartest person in here because I live in all reality.
07:31:21.600
And no one can understand because I'm not living in reality.
07:31:26.640
Yeah, that I live in more reality because I don't, I'm not just red pill and I'm not
07:31:35.780
I'll stand up for what's right, but I'm also not like.
07:31:38.400
Here, let me move it on so I can get this wrapped up soon.
07:31:55.160
I feel like I'm probably not like equipped enough to speak in detail on that.
07:32:00.260
I think it's just more so the case of like misandry versus like full-blown, like misogyny
07:32:10.180
Before I have you weigh in, let me hear from the other panelists.
07:32:19.880
No, I actually searched it up on the internet before and it said, I don't know.
07:32:30.340
It says that women can be sexist towards men, so I'm just like, okay.
07:32:39.140
No, no, but do you believe women can be sexist towards men?
07:32:52.600
I don't, you're 24 years old and you're the most annoying person in here.
07:32:56.520
Genuinely, oh my god, like I just want to go home.
07:32:59.580
And you keep fucking talking like you're the fucking guy interviewing us.
07:33:04.700
I feel like I'm the only one who actually watched the show because you guys keep talking
07:33:07.640
I don't even care about anyone's opinion at this point.
07:33:14.900
You're the one being a baby, you're whining like a little bitch.
07:33:17.680
I'm whining like a little bitch because you keep fucking arguing about the stupid shit.
07:33:45.980
You know like how black people say, you're my, I can't say it.
07:33:57.320
I'm just saying, I'm not going to take the pass.
07:33:59.800
You're giving me the pass, I'm not going to take the pass.
07:34:01.420
So, Kylie, because you're half white, you're half my Caucasian.
07:34:16.800
Tell me, tell me how you really feel, Kylie, though.
07:34:21.080
I don't care about anyone's opinion at this point.
07:34:24.200
I know, you keep changing your opinion like four or five times.
07:34:26.960
We'll tell you what, Kylie, here's what we're going to do.
07:34:29.540
Kylie, we're going to do round two, and then we'll get, we'll get into all this, and then
07:34:34.520
you can give us an update on your love life in like three months.
07:34:44.880
Kylie, give me your, give me your word that you're going to give us an update in three
07:34:49.460
months, and you're, we're going to have a blast, a blasty blast, and you're going to
07:34:54.020
be like, Brian, the amount of gay men that I have dated here in Santa Barbara, it's been
07:35:14.840
I mean, it's literally just the difference between like misandry and like sexism.
07:35:20.480
I mean, there's like, it's rooted in deeper things, like the same thing between like,
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07:36:13.280
I really was impressed there by your, you were really vulnerable.
07:36:22.620
Do you have any heat smoke for any of the other panelists here?
07:36:40.640
Kylie, Kylie, I know you're, you're a, you shoot from the hip.
07:36:51.340
You're probably never going to see any of these women again.
07:37:03.980
They all made, oh, they, they all like made good points, but I think I'll tell you the
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people who I fuck with the most is Alex and chair four.
07:37:50.000
1-1 race, 2-2, neck to neck, stride for stride, and at the line, 1-1 and 2-2 tied.
07:37:58.140
I'd have to like write that out to be able to make sense of it.
07:38:20.220
People of color can't be racist towards white people.
07:38:39.460
Same point that I was making earlier, except this time I actually think that it's like maybe
07:38:44.440
But the difference between like racism versus like prejudice and like what it's rooted in.
07:38:53.260
Because when you're like, oh, I don't like you because you're white, there's not like
07:38:56.400
historical like backing of like, I don't know how to explain that properly because I'm
07:39:08.600
Why does everyone always talk about like the Spanish colonization whenever people talk about
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It's literally like, why are we comparing slavery?
07:39:17.180
Well, I'm talking about the Muslim conquests into Spain.
07:39:28.300
Well, do you think only white people were like conquerors and stuff?
07:39:35.000
I'm saying like, historically, like, I mean, like, yeah, like, I don't even know how to
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address this in a way that's adequate or appropriate because I'm literally white.
07:39:46.360
Because is that really my place to say anything?
07:39:48.680
I don't experience racism and I don't really get mad when people call me cracker because
07:39:52.960
it's like, oh, wait, wait, just avoid that term just because the platform, it's okay.
07:40:00.300
Is it possible that you could experience racism?
07:40:04.880
I don't know that I would feel like it's racism though.
07:40:08.380
Like if it was directed at me, I mean, because like I've been made fun of for like being like
07:40:11.580
to, especially like with how pale I am and that's never really bothered me because
07:40:14.420
it's not coming from, I mean, like, right, like it's coming from like a place of hurt.
07:40:18.700
It's not coming from a place of like, like at no point has me being white stopped me from
07:40:34.440
I mean, what if there's affirmative action practices that have preferential hiring practices
07:40:42.760
Although this typically impacts white men, not so much white women.
07:40:47.820
Well, I was also going to say like most DEI initiatives have been proven to like benefit.
07:40:51.940
I mean, like white women, white, like lesbian women normally.
07:40:56.160
Well, not necessarily, but like LGBTQ people, but white people generally.
07:41:01.060
So less minorities, which that's another thing is like, how are you going to have DEI initiatives
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and then like absolutely not engage in them and then also then go and shut them down?
07:41:09.500
Like, I think that's just a whole separate issue of like.
07:41:18.100
The origination is white people were enslaved, like Slavics.
07:41:26.740
Barbary, slave trade, like white people have been slaves.
07:41:32.940
I mean, like I'm aware that white people have been slaves, not aware of where the terminology
07:41:39.580
So for, I guess on this, people of color can't be racist.
07:41:48.120
Why can't people of color be racist towards white people?
07:41:53.080
I feel like you can only be racist if you're like, oh, I don't want you sitting at this
07:42:08.700
Slurs don't exist, but they can still get you canceled somehow.
07:42:14.420
So could a black person be racist towards a white person?
07:42:20.700
If they're like, oh, I don't want you sitting at this table because you're white.
07:42:35.800
So black people can be racist towards white people then?
07:42:46.800
A black man like stabbed a white Ukrainian woman to death on like a train or subway or
07:42:56.280
I don't know the motivations necessarily, but let's say he did it because she was white.
07:43:06.240
So black people can be racist towards white people?
07:43:13.460
I really don't feel like I have any room to talk about it.
07:43:25.840
You think women are the primary victims of war, not men?
07:43:29.220
By the way, we just have three or four more guys just letting you know.
07:43:35.100
I'd say more currently like spiritually and physically.
07:43:38.600
Although if you're talking about actual war, never mind because there's more men fighting
07:43:41.740
in them, although now the women are rising, I guess, along with that.
07:43:48.260
But if you take into both, then it's probably about the same.
07:43:53.780
About the same, even though like tens of millions of more men have died.
07:43:58.700
Yeah, but spiritually, there's more war against women, I feel like.
07:44:11.040
I don't talk about just physical or just spiritual.
07:44:14.220
When I'm talking about war, I'm talking about military conflicts.
07:44:20.120
Maybe you should specify it in the question next time about physical war.
07:44:31.940
Yeah, because it's not like we're just physical beings with no souls.
07:44:39.160
Let's make it about military conflicts, physical war.
07:44:44.340
Probably men, because they're fighting in a war.
07:45:05.620
Why are men more privileged in society than women?
07:45:13.220
I think it's getting better, obviously, like has been.
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And then also just in like the matter of like, I don't know.
07:45:26.180
I feel like general ways that people view women, especially right now, is like not really great.
07:45:34.440
And I think that men have very strong opinions and generalizations about women.
07:45:40.100
But I think that they're just like, I don't know.
07:45:43.640
It's like really, like it's kind of hard to be a woman right now.
07:45:45.820
And I don't mean that in like, but like genuinely, like, oh my God.
07:45:49.440
Can you name any other point in history where it was when women had any more freedom, more choice, more opportunity than today?
07:46:00.860
I don't think that that negates the fact that we still are not where we could be as a society.
07:46:08.840
Because obviously I'd hope that right now we're better off than we were like 100 years ago.
07:46:13.180
Like I would really, really hope so, considering society in general has like progressed, you know, like I would hope because it would be like not beneficial to anybody to keep us where we were at.
07:46:24.640
I think that's the reality, but I don't against it.
07:46:31.800
I also think that's just always been the reality.
07:46:35.160
And just based on the graphs I've seen from last year's sociology.
07:46:52.080
Um, I think maybe you guys should have a wrestling match too.
07:47:41.940
Why are men more privileged in society than women?
07:47:44.800
Just, I guess, because most of the rulers have been men physically and, yeah.
07:47:51.980
I want to say in all of the world history, I'd say current evolution history, yes.
07:47:56.800
But that's also because the last few avatars were men, so.
07:47:59.720
We got, we got, I think it's a lot of privilege.
07:48:12.860
Yeah, you're acting like she didn't give her, like, parts of herself away, like her soul,
07:48:18.260
Which are actually priceless, but you're acting like she gave nothing, which is crazy.
07:48:23.420
Most of these simp dudes out here, they'll give you money and never get, and they never
07:48:46.300
Like, most of these hustler girls, they never give the pussy.
07:49:01.220
I actually, I don't think men are more privileged in society than women.
07:49:05.100
I think in a lot of ways, women are more privileged than men.
07:49:11.100
But, you know, look, we could look at affirmative action.
07:49:14.320
We can look at the positive life outcomes, negative life outcomes.
07:49:19.780
Men are less likely to get a college education.
07:49:26.520
Men are more likely to encounter police brutality, police killings.
07:49:33.820
They're more likely to have a bunch of negative life outcomes.
07:49:38.720
It's not clear to me that, broadly speaking, men in totality are more privileged in society than women.
07:49:44.980
It might be the case that there's the apex of men, the top 0.0001% of men that have, like, some better life outcomes than, like, a large swath of women.
07:49:55.100
But, I think the average man fares worse than the average woman.
07:50:06.760
Alex, you think women are oppressed in the USA.
07:50:24.700
I think that just have very harsh views and critics consistently about, like, how we have to be and how we have to behave over everything.
07:50:45.840
These feel like the same questions over and over.
07:51:06.760
Because I lead a, thankfully, very privileged life.
07:51:14.080
My mom just works very, very hard for her income.
07:51:17.600
Uh, going to Kylie, uh, are women oppressed in the USA?
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Konnichiwa, hajijamashite watashi wa Kylie desu.
07:52:02.200
Um, very unjust, very unjust, very unjust treatment, typically by like a government or the state.
07:52:21.460
Um, just prolonged, cruel, or unjust treatment or control.
07:52:37.840
If you do three skips, you have to wear the hat for five minutes.
07:52:45.320
Khloe, you have to spin the helicopter on the top, okay?
07:52:49.680
All right, Queen D, uh, women are oppressed, or not, that wasn't you.
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At least in the line of work that I want to do.
07:53:04.280
Yeah, it's almost impossible to find someone like me.
07:53:07.520
Oh, shit, I did not mean to press that, my bad.
07:53:13.520
In the line of work I want to do, they're making it very, very hard, and I don't want
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to use, I don't want to use, like, industry, no, and everything, yeah, well, everything,
07:53:21.560
but I don't want to, like, use force and manipulation and, like, do evil things like a lot of them
07:53:25.980
are doing to get those positions, but that's, it's mostly men doing it, but women are doing
07:53:30.400
it, too, so I'm not going to say, like, they're all innocent.
07:53:39.020
Oh, by the way, guys, by the way, we're going to end with a roast session.
07:53:47.740
$30 a roast session, then we're wrapping, guys.
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I'm going to let some of these chats come through.
07:53:58.940
Brian, you ever noticed that the women on panels tend to get more mad at other women
07:54:18.780
I was equally like this to both of them, though.
07:54:21.920
I dislike male feminists more than I dislike female.
07:54:37.580
And if a woman goes against the sisterhood, then, I don't know.
07:54:49.540
What you were referring to only has to do with the difference in the center of gravity between men and women.
07:54:55.140
It has nothing whatsoever to do with physical strength.
07:55:05.220
And it is more common that a guy does actually work out his lower body, too.
07:55:08.300
So if a woman didn't equally, that's what I was trying to say, too.
07:55:43.300
This is actually really great because I love my makeup maneuver at home.
07:55:48.900
See, we're very generous here at the Whatever Podcast.
07:56:00.980
Sorry, this may be the Christian coming out of me.
07:56:04.400
For Bailey, I would recommend reading the NLT, New Living Translation.
07:56:14.160
I'll pass because all the newer Bibles have all been influenced.
07:56:21.700
It's like the fact that people actually take it as the full truth, to me, it's insane, personally.
07:56:34.720
Is it just me or does it really bring out the color of her eyes?
07:56:56.980
You're not going to do it afraid of makeup wipes?
07:57:18.280
That's one of the only things that makes me feel like...
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Even when I was 16, I don't think I've ever even kissed a girl who has braces.
07:57:48.100
No, I just never encountered a girl that had braces.
07:58:02.600
So, you have to learn how to be extra careful because you don't want to give them a free
07:58:09.280
Dude, because if your hair gets stuck in your...
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I'm not going to do it this time, but I will next time.
07:59:05.240
I'm just, like, really happy with these lashes.
07:59:17.400
And she's like the cutest little girl I've ever seen.
07:59:28.000
Chair 5, you're going to let Chair 6 show you up like that.
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I have some of my lashes on, so don't talk too much.
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Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
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Does that come out, by the way, the septum piercing?
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Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
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Can you tell me a right that men have that women don't?
08:00:55.140
Okay, well, here, I'll let everybody else answer, then I'll come back to that.
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I think I confused the word right with power because, for example, there's a real example.
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When a customer came in and they look at a male or a guy sales, they will already assume,
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But if they see me, they will assume I don't know anything about cars.
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But I do like cars, and I know about cars, but they will just assume, already assume,
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So, when we're talking about rights, we're talking about, like, something...
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Kylie, what is a right that a man has that a woman does not?
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I was just thinking of, like, power in certain industries.
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What is the right that they don't have equal access to?
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I feel like they have more privilege because I feel like more men make more money than women.
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So, I feel like, in that sense, that makes them more privileged.
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But it's not about privilege, it's about rights.
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I feel like I need more time to think about this.
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And actually, a lot of the first ladies are also transgender as well.
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That's like more of a satanic thing that they make them do, but that's a story for another time.
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A lot of them are doing satanic rituals, so that's why they have to do it.
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That's why they put them in these positions of power.
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Yeah, but what rights do men have that women don't?
08:03:46.240
But also, I know there's women that are doing fucked up shit like this, so I wonder...
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They haven't became president, and I don't know if they don't want to be...
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But women, while there hasn't been a female president, women can be president.
08:04:02.740
Yeah, but it's not fair, and it's not set up correctly, so...
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Yes, but it's not actually happening, so that's the problem.
08:04:12.400
Yeah, it could happen if the whole government gets taken over by someone that makes it fair.
08:04:20.840
Okay, so the only one I'm really going to bite on is yours, Alex.
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Well, you do realize that abortion rights are secure in various states in the U.S., so it's
08:04:39.580
Hold on, and then, as far as men, you say men have bodily autonomy.
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I'll give you three examples that men don't, maybe even four examples, that men don't have
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The first is forced military conscription, the draft.
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Only men in the United States can be forced to be drafted.
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They can be forced to find a military conflict.
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This happened as recently as the Vietnam War, which there are men alive today who were drafted,
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They have injuries, major, serious, life-altering injuries.
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There's also men who would have been alive today, but they were drafted, and now they're
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The government can force you to go fight a war that you don't want to.
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And then, in addition to that, even though there's not currently a draft currently, men
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are still subject to it, and if men can't vote, if they're not registered for the Selective
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You're barred from certain federal programs, certain federal jobs.
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There's some other negative ramifications, too.
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If you fail to register for the Selective Service, this only impacts men, and it's directly
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Number two, overwhelmingly, men in this country are circumcised upon birth.
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So their penises, their genitals, baby boys' genitals are mutilated upon birth.
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Perhaps when they're 18, they can make that determination when they're 18, but when you're
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But this would be a pretty severe way in which men's bodily autonomy is treaded, or
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well, males' baby boys' bodily autonomy is treaded upon by society.
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There's an overwhelming social acceptance of cutting off parts of a baby boy's penis.
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And then also, I would say, as it relates to bodily autonomy, we've done away with debtors'
08:07:00.400
So if you owe a debt to somebody, you can't go to prison for it.
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If you owe the debt to a company or somebody else, historically, you could go to prison.
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We've done away with it, with the sole exception, and this almost exclusively impacts men, child
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So men who fail to pay child support, some of them do it willingly.
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Some of them simply can't afford or aren't capable of earning money to pay child support.
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We will put men in prison, taking away their bodily autonomy for what is a debt.
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And we don't consider any other debts to warrant any sort of prison sentence or taking away
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And then this is kind of a, I don't know if it's totally the case, but I could make an
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argument that because men, and this could, look, a lot of men commit crimes and they do
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But because there is bias in the court system, men are much more likely to go to prison for,
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you know, if you compare a man who commits a crime versus a woman who commits a crime,
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women are way likely, much more likely to get off.
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They're more likely to get a punishment that doesn't resort to prison sentences, whereas
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So while a lot of crime involves action that somebody intentionally took, the state is more
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likely to take away a man's bodily autonomy than a woman's.
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But that's kind of like a throwaway one that isn't like my strongest argument.
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I just, for me, it feels like a different argument as far as like autonomy goes.
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Because just my opinion on, you know, like carrying a, you know, thing inside of you for nine
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months and what that does to your body, not only during the pregnancy, but after the pregnancy.
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And then if you don't have, you know, the opportunity to get an abortion when that's
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something that you think that would be most beneficial for not only you, but, you know,
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I feel like when you start talking about, well, oh, like adoption or like, oh, like then
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you're adding another human being into this world that then will actively get traumatized
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by a system that does not care for it adequately because the foster system is like beyond messed
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Or even if you were to straight away like adopt your kid into a family, there's still that,
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you know, growing up and wondering like, why didn't my mom want me?
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Why didn't that when you could realistically remove the traumatization of a child that doesn't
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But instead we're actively traumatizing like two people in the process.
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So I don't think that that's a good example of the inequality.
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I think that goes to show how much more privilege women actually have.
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And also tubal litigations are supposed to, are currently becoming more and more of an independent
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So you can do that without your husband's approval, but men are still having to get approval
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Also the bodily autonomy thing, because of the differences in biology between men and women,
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of course, women are the only people who can get pregnant, but I don't think that would
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necessarily reflect an inequality of rights between men and women.
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If it was the case that, for example, a man, I don't think this should be the case, a man
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could dictate that a woman, she, she gets the abortion.
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Like maybe she doesn't want to get the abortion, but if the man says, I want you to get to the
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abortion, but the woman couldn't choose to get an abortion, that would be an inequality.
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But I just fail to see how it's an inequality of rights.
08:10:51.160
Well, that's also what I was going to say though, is like just on that topic of like
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tubal litigation or being like, or sorry, yeah, like being something that you can do
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I mean, as far as I'm aware, I don't think that there's like a medical reason why you
08:11:03.000
would need a vasectomy other than just to not reproduce.
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It's also less invasive than a tubal litigation.
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But that was my other thing is that I think that the reason that you can do tubal litigation
08:11:11.300
without, I mean, thankfully without needing a partner's consent is because that's more
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But a lot of women are just doing it just because nowadays.
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Well, at least on the topics, we're going to let some of these final chats come through
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I want to thank chairs one, two, three, four, five, seven, and eight.
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And Brian, our host for attending the podcast, respect to the women who removed their makeup,
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I was going to ask who let you broads out of the kitchen, but you all escaped the asylum.
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Guys, I'm going to be, I'm going to lose, I'm going to lose some weight by the end of the
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All these girls could do so much better for themselves if they just changed their ways
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Another wake-up call for how twisted some people are.
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A beautiful existence of reality is so twisted.
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Not just physical, which is not true because you have a soul.
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Like I keep saying, if you're soulless, I don't even know how you would be here.
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Although I think you were Hitler in your past life.
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And it would make sense if you had a podcast if you were Hitler in your past life.
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The pathological evil required to claim a traumatized life is worse than never getting
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What you actually mean is that having a baby would be inconvenient to you.
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The system is unfortunately not beneficial for your foster children.
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The super chats won't trigger TTS, but I got you, bro.
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I was hoping to get some more comments about us doing the man AI filters.
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I'd like to leave that one, but toss that in this.
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I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you
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Will you guys consider stopping sex work entirely tonight?
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But then I realized it was actually, even though I was trafficked into it and it was
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an accident, I realized the benefits of it for me.
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So that's why I kind of just stuck with it, but obviously by myself.
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So I'm pretty sure if one more comes through, I'll let it come through.
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Also, guys, please leave a nice comment once the live ends.
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Stay until the end here once the stream ends so you can leave a comment.
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It takes a couple moments to get that, get the comments available.
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You know, say something nice about Alex and Khloe and Kylie.
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No, I actually got this from a local smoke shop where I live.
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One girl said we didn't roast them because we agree with them.
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Thank you guys for, thank you to the viewers for tuning in tonight.
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It was a, it was a great panel guys, but you could have been anywhere in the world.
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Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates and supports the show.
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Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM at whatever on Instagram.
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If you can make it to Santa Barbara, are you forgetting anything?