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00:03:32.000 to have the guests introduce themselves. So please tell us your name, age, location, and

00:03:36.560 occupation. Go ahead. Hi, I'm Amber. I'm 22. And I'm from Studio City. And I do social media

00:03:45.480 and like event stuff. And yeah. Okay. 22. Yes. So you do social media? Yeah. Like what kind?

00:03:57.960 Um, just like whatever. Do you do any adult content? I have, yeah. Have past tense? No. Well,

00:04:05.640 yeah, past tense. Like OnlyFans? You currently have an OnlyFans? Yeah. So adult content, past tense?

00:04:12.260 Well, I've never really done it or posted it. Okay. But you do have an OF. Okay. Gotcha. What about you?

00:04:19.440 Hi, my name is Madeline. I go by Mads. I'm 22. I also am from Studio City. Um, and I'm an artist

00:04:27.040 and a tattoo apprentice. Yeah. All right. You do any content? I don't. Creation? Okay. Cool. No.

00:04:33.760 Uh, how long you've been tattooing for? I actually just moved here two weeks ago to California. Um,

00:04:39.080 so I just started. Uh, so where are you from originally then? I'm from Denver. Denver, Colorado.

00:04:44.000 Denver, Colorado. Yeah. All right. And, uh, have you your, the tattoos you do have, you did them

00:04:49.080 yourself? I free handed, uh, most of my tattoos. Yeah. Very cool. Very cool. What the, uh, can you

00:04:55.020 show us the fist ones? It says Angel Baby. Into this camera. Oh, it says Angel Baby. Angel? It's like,

00:05:01.180 I know, the L is kind of. Oh, it's, it's on the thumb. I see. Yeah. Yeah. Ange, Ange Baby. There you go.

00:05:07.880 Right. It looks like it. Uh, yes. My like nickname back home. My friends call me Angel Baby.

00:05:12.560 Thank you. What about you? Um, hi, my name is Alex. Uh, I'm 26 and I'm from here, Santa Barbara and I'm an

00:05:21.400 artist and a creative consultant. Um, where are you from before you? Um, before that I was well all

00:05:28.660 over California, but I'm originally from Russia. All right, cool. Welcome. Welcome. What about you?

00:05:35.040 Welcome back. Um, my name is Elle and I'm 22 years old. Um, I do content creation. I do OnlyFans

00:05:43.860 specifically. O-H-E-L-L-E, baby, just saying if you want it. Um, and then, um, I also did do real

00:05:52.080 estate and I have my cosmetology license, but I can't currently use it in the state of California.

00:05:57.120 And where are you, where are you from? I'm originally from, um, Ohio, but I live in LA now

00:06:01.280 in Studio City with these two girls. All right. Very cool. Welcome. What about you? Hi, my name

00:06:06.080 is Grace. Uh, I'm from Sacramento originally and I'm a student at UCSB. Age? Uh, 19. Sorry.

00:06:12.760 All good. And what do you study at UCSB? I study mathematics. Math. Oh, okay. Interesting. Uh,

00:06:19.420 I was actually, interestingly enough, I, uh, I was doing some math research yesterday on the,

00:06:26.620 all these unsolved, um, unsolved math problems. Okay. And it's actually really rather fascinating.

00:06:35.800 Uh, so hopefully by the end of the show, you can maybe help us solve one of these.

00:06:39.600 Are you familiar with, um, can't promise anything. The, the Yang Mills existence in mass, mass gap.

00:06:47.400 Do you think we could maybe crack, take a crack at that? I've never even heard of that,

00:06:50.100 but at that, the Birch and Swinnerton dire conjecture. Could we navier Stokes existence

00:06:55.880 and smoothness? Could we maybe? Sounds exhilarating. Take a different language. Yeah. Are you familiar

00:07:01.480 with Mandelbrot set? The Mandelbrot set? Nick, I'm going to send you, I'm going to send you the

00:07:07.160 Mandelbrot set. Sounds great. And maybe we'll take a crack at it during the show. Sure. Um, that's cool

00:07:12.500 though. That's cool. Um, and so you, after university, do you have a sense of what you want to do? Uh,

00:07:18.480 not really. I just think it's really powerful for a woman to have like either like an engineering or

00:07:22.300 like a math degree or something like that. Cause not a lot of women have that kind of stuff. And

00:07:25.400 I feel like I want that as a very independent woman. I want to be able to like do that for myself.

00:07:30.500 Okay. So, uh, no sense though yet anyways, cause you're, you're going into your sophomore,

00:07:36.160 junior year, uh, sophomore, sophomore year. Okay, cool. What about you? My name is Paula. I am 53 years

00:07:42.700 old. Um, my occupation is by trade. I'm a chef, but mainly I'm a mom of four currently, um, all adult

00:07:53.680 kids. And, um, what else? Uh, where are you from? Oh, I'm originally from Southern California, but I

00:08:03.480 moved to Dallas, Texas about 20 years ago. Okay. Cool. I'm, um, I'm Mel. I'm 19 from Sydney,

00:08:13.460 Australia, and I'm studying law at the moment and I work at a firm. All right. And so you're in uni

00:08:20.900 right now, is that correct? Yes. Okay. So you're, and you're, you said you're studying law. Yes. All

00:08:26.260 right. And, uh, what brought you to, uh, to California just on vacation or whatever podcast

00:08:32.260 or? Yep. Just on holiday. Okay, cool. What about you? My name is Margarita. I'm 34 years

00:08:38.440 old. I live in LA, um, and I have a band. I have a rock band, so I'm a musician. I do a

00:08:45.000 lot of art. I wrote a novel. Wow. Awesome. All right. Welcome. Welcome. Can, can we hear

00:08:52.160 something? You're the, you're the lead singer. You're the vocalist, right? Right. You're

00:08:58.520 the vocalist, right? I am. Uh, what, what genre of rock or what subgenre? It's, I would

00:09:04.300 say it's cinematic rock. I love a lot of movie soundtracks, so it's kind of soundtracky mixed

00:09:09.920 with rock. All right. Well, welcome back. You were on our, one of our earlier episodes with

00:09:15.840 Michael Knowles. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Welcome back. I think it's been over a year. It's

00:09:20.680 been maybe a year and a half. Uh, I'll do the introductions for Andrew Wilson. He is,

00:09:25.800 uh, he's going to be tuning in guys a little bit later on, uh, probably around 8 PM Pacific

00:09:31.120 time. So stay tuned for that. We're going to go around the table once more. What is everybody's

00:09:36.200 current relationship status? So are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with

00:09:40.860 benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex, cult, harem, whatever it may be. If you're

00:09:46.820 single, how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever

00:09:50.840 been in? Go ahead. Oh gosh, I don't know how to answer that. I mean, I'm into the mic.

00:09:56.300 Oh, um, my relationship status, I'd say I guess is single, I guess. You guess single?

00:10:04.920 Yeah. Okay. So there's a guy in the picture then. Yeah. I see people. Oh, multiple. Okay.

00:10:08.880 How many, uh, are you, uh, orientation? Huh? Orientation, straight, gay, bi. Uh, I don't

00:10:15.920 really have one. I don't really. Pansexual. So you'll date women? You know, I would. Okay. So

00:10:21.820 I'm just asking, sorry. Are you dating? I don't like to. Are you currently dating a couple men,

00:10:27.100 couple women? What's? Couple men. Yeah. Any women? Uh, no. No. Okay. Uh, but you have dated

00:10:34.140 women in the past or, okay. How many men are you currently, uh, dating? I don't know. You

00:10:40.800 don't know? No, not really. I think it just varies. Yeah. Well, right now. It really depends.

00:10:48.680 Okay. How many men have you seen in the past 14 days? I don't know. Don't look at me. Look

00:10:55.620 at the ring footage. I'm looking at you. I don't know. Um, I don't know. It really depends

00:11:01.020 because I like to have like multiple partners that like, it's just different relationships

00:11:06.420 per person, I guess. Yeah. Like, so are you in the poly thing? I'm not really into anything.

00:11:15.360 I'm just me. Okay. Um, so you currently, do you have anybody you call your boyfriend? No.

00:11:24.540 God, no. Never. So these are like sneaky links? Sort of. Yeah. Okay. What's the longest period

00:11:30.720 of time that you've been seeing any, any of these men that you're currently involved

00:11:35.020 with? My longest relationship was. Not, not the question. No. Currently involved with.

00:11:39.820 Currently? Yeah. Like one of these guys who you're currently sleeping with. Probably be.

00:11:43.000 Have you seen them for one month, two months, three months, four months, five months? Oh.

00:11:47.080 Um. I'm just curious. Why do you tend to look at her? Because she knows things about me.

00:11:52.780 She's forgetful. Okay. Yeah. I am really forgetful. Okay. Sure. I live with her. So she,

00:11:57.460 she knows. Okay. That's fine. That's fine. Um, how, did you see a guy yesterday? Yes. The guy,

00:12:04.680 did you see a guy the day before? Yes. Did you see a guy the day before that? Yes. The day before

00:12:09.460 that? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'll keep going the day before that. I don't know. It's just, it's just a yes.

00:12:13.880 And are the, these are all different guys. So the past three days you saw three different guys?

00:12:18.060 Uh, no, I actually had one back twice and then the other was a new one. And then. Okay. And how do

00:12:24.400 you typically meet them? Dating apps? Typically dating apps. Yeah. Okay. Uh, typically dating apps. Um,

00:12:31.960 yeah. So if you had to like estimate how many guys are currently in the rotation, the roster,

00:12:37.280 the bench, however you want to frame it, uh, how many would you say you're currently dating?

00:12:42.180 Uh, 10, 15, I don't know. Something like around that. I don't really define anything. So I don't

00:12:48.740 really know what to count. Uh, anywhere from like, basically any guy you've had sex with recently,

00:12:56.800 I guess. Oh. 10 to 15? 10 to 15. Yeah. Sure. Are they, um, are they aware of each other? They know?

00:13:06.240 Yeah. Um, and I assume they're probably maybe, uh, sleeping with other women too then.

00:13:11.320 Most of them, no. Just you? Yeah. Okay. Um, and is there? That's just because I like tend to get

00:13:18.160 along with like guys that are very, I don't know, shy, like shy boys. Okay. Like they're like just

00:13:25.540 sad and I'm just like, like, Oh, come here. Let me fix you temporarily. And so do all of them know

00:13:32.200 that you're seeing other men? Most? Yeah. Well, like, unless it's like a, like a one night stand,

00:13:37.760 it's not like I'm going to run them down my whole life. Okay. And you throw some of those

00:13:41.860 in there too. The one night stands in between the guys who you kind of have an ongoing thing

00:13:46.920 with. Yeah. You'll throw those into. Okay. My, my dating life is just kind of complicated.

00:13:50.720 Is this, is this the biggest that your roster has ever been? Yeah. Yeah. It actually is.

00:13:55.340 Okay. All right. Uh, ever had a boyfriend relationship or longest relationship? Uh, longest

00:14:01.760 three and a half years, three and a half years. Okay. When did that end? Uh, like that

00:14:09.340 was, I think five years ago almost. Wait, so you're 22 that ended five years ago. You

00:14:14.620 within 17, 18. So that was like a high school, like 15 to 18, 16 to 18. Uh huh. And then

00:14:20.880 my second longest was right after back to back two year. And then I went and got into a year

00:14:25.960 and a half relationship. And then ever since then I've been single. Okay. And you've been

00:14:30.680 single for how long? Two years now, almost. I think a year and a half maybe. Yeah. Excluding

00:14:38.480 like a little gap of when she was like with someone briefly for like three months. Yeah.

00:14:43.120 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Got it. So now the roster is the biggest it's ever been. You said

00:14:47.500 currently seeing 10 to 15 men. Yeah. Do you ever, will you ever see like a two in the same

00:14:52.720 day? Yes. Three in the same day? Maybe. I don't know. I'm not really. Huh?

00:14:57.540 Papio. Papio. Yes. Yeah. More than that? Four in the same day? No, no, no. Three in the

00:15:02.460 same day. Okay. Yeah, I'd say. Okay. Three in the same day. Um, uh, that's cool. Yeah, but

00:15:12.060 it doesn't necessarily mean I do anything with them. Like a lot of times I like just cuddle

00:15:16.220 and hang. Well, you said, you did say earlier that these are 10 to 15. These are men you're

00:15:21.100 sleeping with. Maybe you don't sleep with them every time you see them, but. Well, half of them

00:15:24.580 are munches. So I don't know what to count. What does that mean? It means that they just

00:15:28.460 go down on her and they don't actually have. Yeah, pretty much. And they, so you'll have

00:15:33.860 munches that will. So you'll, you'll have a guy who will go down on you and 24 hours earlier

00:15:42.600 you were having sex with another man. Does that happen? Yes. Yeah. Yes. We love a woman

00:15:51.380 that can own up to her truth though. Well, I certainly, uh, I suppose I can give you credit

00:15:56.480 for the forthcomingness. Uh, so frankly, I kind of blame the men in this situation. Um,

00:16:06.260 I like simps. That's just what I attract. They certainly sound like simps. I don't know.

00:16:11.400 I know. I love it. I don't, I don't think most men would tolerate, uh, tolerate it. Knowing

00:16:19.040 a girl is like, it would be most good men. Defining word is a good. I'm really honest and like I

00:16:29.600 communicate every little detail like that goes through my brain. So for the most part, things

00:16:33.620 tend to work out for me just because of my brutal honesty. Yeah. Yeah. No, I guess, um,

00:16:39.640 certainly appreciate the honesty. Yeah. Uh, these men, uh, I want to say are maybe this

00:16:48.240 isn't really so much a knock at you as to them. They must be kind of desperate though.

00:16:54.780 Or they just want to have a good time and like don't want any strings attached and they know

00:16:58.580 that that's not going to happen. Yeah. I mean, a couple of these guys like I've had for years,

00:17:02.140 like I've had, yeah, no, a hundred percent. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. Well, thank

00:17:07.280 you for sharing. Appreciate it. I'm a good friend. I'm just really am. I'm a good friend

00:17:11.920 with a fat ass. It looks good from behind. All right. Cool. Cool. Uh, what about you?

00:17:19.260 Um, my current dating life? Yeah. Relationship status. I just like to keep things personal between

00:17:24.880 me and someone else, but I'm a one vibe kind of girl. So one person. Yeah, of course. Have

00:17:30.260 you ever had a situation like this? No. Uh, have you ever had a roster? No, I have not. No. Okay.

00:17:37.260 So just one at a time. So are you currently seeing somebody? Okay. Uh, is it boyfriend?

00:17:43.820 How do you categorize it? What's the title? He's my boyfriend. Why the hesitation? It seems like

00:17:51.580 nothing. I just, I love to keep my like dating life super private, like just out of respect for

00:17:56.700 someone else. Okay. So you're, you are in a relationship. How long have you guys been

00:17:59.820 dating? Not that long. Two months, three months. Well, those were two separate numbers. So

00:18:07.720 right in between there. You want me to put, okay. 2.5. Yeah. 2.5. All right. Um, how did you guys

00:18:14.800 meet? Um, we met at my birthday party. Okay. Did you guys know each other like before? Like

00:18:23.400 were you friends before or? Yeah. We had met each other before, like briefly through people,

00:18:28.460 but never talked. Longest relationship? Um, I was with a guy for two years that ended like

00:18:34.620 a year ago, but it was the only other person I've ever been with. Okay. What about you? Uh,

00:18:40.900 I am currently in a relationship with my companion. Um, I forgot the, the questions.

00:18:49.960 Uh, how long, how long? Oh, oh, yeah. Um, well, it's going to be, uh, a year in a couple of days.

00:18:56.960 Okay. One year. Longest relationship? Um, my longest relationship was five years. Five years.

00:19:04.120 And this is, if I recall correctly, it's an age gap relationship, correct? This one is,

00:19:08.340 yes. He's 53. 53, 26. All right. Cool. He was 52 when we met. There you go. And you were

00:19:18.380 25 when you guys met? Yes, I was. Okay. Cool. What about you? Um, so my current relationship

00:19:25.520 is not my longest relationship I've ever been in. Um, but I do currently have a boyfriend. We've been

00:19:31.120 together for seven months. We had a talking stage for about four months, five months,

00:19:38.120 nearly before we started dating. Um, and my longest relationship that I've ever been in was almost

00:19:47.040 five years and it was very on and off cause it was during high school. So understandably so, but how

00:19:53.060 many times was it off again, on again? Oh, I mean, how many times did he cheat on me or how many times

00:19:58.320 did I break up with him? I'd say like we broke up and got back together about like five, six times.

00:20:04.880 Okay. Maybe more. I've been there. Yeah. What about you? Uh, I'm currently single, so. All right.

00:20:12.200 Currently single, longest relationship? Uh, probably like five and a half months. Five months. All right.

00:20:18.800 Five months. Yeah. Uh, how long have you been single for? Only like two months. Two months. Yeah.

00:20:23.880 Really not that long. How long? And was that the five month one that ended two months ago? Yeah.

00:20:27.800 Yeah. Yeah, it was. Was it, uh, also somebody who went to school here? Yeah. He went to, uh,

00:20:32.860 the city college. Okay. He went to CC. Why did y'all split? Um, I wanted more for like the future

00:20:39.400 than like what he could give me for right then. I mean, there was nothing like he didn't like ever

00:20:42.520 cheat on me. He didn't do anything bad because they're like mutuals. It was just like, wasn't

00:20:46.520 working. I needed more like reassurance for the future. Just something he couldn't give me.

00:20:50.500 So it was just like, like, did you guys have a title? Were you boyfriend? Yeah. Yeah. We

00:20:55.560 were, yeah. We were boyfriend girlfriend. So when you say you wanted more reassurance for

00:20:58.180 the future, what, what would that have looked like? We would have been dating for five months

00:21:03.500 and then done long distance for three years, which would have been fine. But like all he

00:21:07.320 could promise me was like, maybe we can get an apartment afterwards. And it was just like,

00:21:11.080 I don't know from like where I was from my, my stance. I wanted like a little bit more

00:21:14.800 than like what he could give me with that. Wait, hold on. You were, you, he was here locally,

00:21:19.760 but if I understand correctly, he's going to move away. Sorry. Yeah. He grew up

00:21:23.960 like a couple hours that way. And then he came down here for college. So then can you

00:21:29.580 tilt your mic down just a bit? Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. Okay. And so, but you said you were

00:21:35.840 going to do long distance for three years. Yeah. Cause then he didn't want to go to the

00:21:39.620 community college down here anymore because it was like, uh, just like money wise or

00:21:42.940 whatever. And then he was going to move back home. And then from there he wanted to go

00:21:46.520 like another, like four years somewhere else to finish the rest of like his

00:21:49.380 two years from like the community college. And so he said, what, what do you mean?

00:21:55.020 Well, you guys were having a conversation about the distance, right? And then, so he said,

00:21:59.580 what was his stance there that you felt was not reassuring enough? It was just, I like to plan

00:22:06.040 my future a lot. I don't want to like three, three years in advance. Uh, well just more of

00:22:10.640 like, if I'm dating someone, it's that's valid. It's a valid. Yeah. If I'm dating someone,

00:22:14.380 I want to know, like, I'm not going to date just to date personally. Like that's just me. I'm just

00:22:18.380 like, I want to date to marry if I do that. Or just at least have like an idea, just not

00:22:21.980 knowing like it's going to like end like a week later. Or I'm not saying that's what

00:22:25.260 happened, but just like, I just like, I want that reassurance with that. And I'm just like,

00:22:29.460 it was just not going to work with the long distance and everything. I see. Okay. Yeah.

00:22:33.940 Yeah. It's like getting more attached when you know that it's has kind of an expiration

00:22:37.960 date on it. Like exactly. It's better to just kind of cut dry. Yeah. And I'm like, I loved

00:22:41.920 him. I'm like, it wasn't like anything bad. It was just like, didn't work. And I know I

00:22:45.820 deserved more than like that. Okay. So you, you ended things then? Yes. I ended things.

00:22:50.280 Okay. Got it. Over text or? No, in person. In person? In person. Okay. In person. Okay.

00:22:55.500 It was over, it was okay. It was over FaceTime and then he came over and we talked and then

00:23:00.180 it is. Yeah. And then like, was he, was he like fighting for it or was he just like, yeah,

00:23:04.600 okay. He over FaceTime, he shut down and then he came over and we talked and he, and then he

00:23:10.240 did try fighting for it. And I was like, I broke up with him on FaceTime and then I was like,

00:23:14.160 okay. Um, and then he came over and then we talked and like, I thought it was a good

00:23:19.020 talk. And then like the next day I was like, no, like, but no hard feelings towards him

00:23:26.220 at all. It just happens. Okay. All right. Uh, what, and you went to UCSB freshman year

00:23:32.800 too, right? Yes. Okay. Uh, any dating experiences out here in the area? Just him. Are you in

00:23:39.100 a sorority at all? I'm not, I'm not in a sorority. Any partying? Do you party at all?

00:23:43.780 Uh, not really. I'm like, I'm not really what my vibe is. I'm like, I just work a lot.

00:23:49.180 Okay. Try to make that bank. All right, cool. And you said you date to marry. Are you religious

00:23:52.700 at all? I know this. I am. I'm Christian. Yeah. Uh, what denomination? What do you mean?

00:23:57.500 Uh, like, are you Protestant, Catholic, um, non-denominational? Just Christian, not Catholic.

00:24:04.860 Okay. I grew up Christian with my mom. Sure. What about with your mom? Are your parents

00:24:09.440 separated? Yeah. Okay. They divorced when I was four. Gotcha. Okay. What about you?

00:24:14.760 I am currently married. I've, him and I have been together for about 10 years. Um, my first

00:24:23.800 husband, I was together with about 11 or 12 years and that's my longest relationship.

00:24:29.700 All right. Uh, kids. Four. From this marriage, previous marriage? One. The first, the first

00:24:38.380 marriage. Okay. So you have four kids from the first marriage. Yes. That ended. You remarried.

00:24:43.800 Mm-hmm. Uh, has your current husband adopted your current children? No. When we got married,

00:24:53.700 my kids were 10, 12, 15, and 16. Mm-hmm. And, um, his name is Chad. So they just called him Step

00:25:03.460 Chad. That's cute. I love that. Yeah. And they're, they're, it's all good. We were really blessed. We

00:25:11.660 did not have any real issues with them accepting him. They knew he was a good man. And so now the time

00:25:19.580 between the two husbands, that's, that's really interesting. Yeah. What happened? What happened

00:25:26.400 there? Um, I dated a lot. So, yeah. Yeah. You got to kiss a few frogs. Um, yeah. To find

00:25:36.800 your prince. Um, like I really, I kind of thought it was like female empowerment and I'm going to

00:25:44.040 like do whatever I want and all that stuff. And it just really was kind of a raw deal at

00:25:50.020 the end of the day. So, uh, give us what, what are the details on that? Uh, well, I was dating

00:25:56.260 online, so I'd have a roster of 10, 12 guys whenever I needed them. And this was about 10

00:26:02.240 years ago. So, yeah. So they would buy me things, whatever I wanted. You, and you met them

00:26:08.840 online, you said? Yep. Was it, uh, were you using dating apps? Dating apps. Okay. And you

00:26:15.940 had a roster of 10 to 12? Yeah, pretty much. And was that the biggest the roster was or was

00:26:20.500 it bigger? Yeah, yeah. Probably 10 to 12 at the time. And you'd be like hooking up with

00:26:23.440 all of them? Yep. Okay. And you said some of them would like pay, uh, give you money or

00:26:29.000 buy you gifts. Were any of them like sugar daddy type arrangements? Yeah. Like I'd have a guy

00:26:34.280 say like, I'm going to pay for your divorce and I'll take care of you. What do you need?

00:26:40.300 Pay for the divorce? Yeah. That's a new one. I ain't heard that one before. Um, another

00:26:45.700 guy was like, Hey, let's go out to lunch. And I'm like, Hey, I'm working. I gotta, I gotta

00:26:50.240 get this. Um, I was working for a nonprofit and I needed to get some food to do this nonprofit.

00:26:57.400 And he's like, what do you need? And I told him and he's like, okay, I got it covered. Come

00:27:02.420 meet me. Hell yeah. And was this a guy you like had just met? No. Oh, I had slept with

00:27:11.240 him a couple of times before then. So damn dudes be doing crazy shit. They do. You have

00:27:17.560 no idea. They do. And I, I'll buy a girl in and out. That's it. I know the fuck. Killer

00:27:26.000 of cereal donated $69. Can you add this to the end of that line of questions? How did

00:27:32.960 everybody's parents meet? Hope everyone has a great fulfilling and purposeful line of

00:27:39.000 conversations. Welcome back, Brian. Another week.

00:27:44.320 Yeah. Thank you. Killer of cereal. Appreciate it, man. Um, I'll ask the parents meet once

00:27:49.940 we get through the relationship status stuff. Thank you. Killer of cereal. Very good to see

00:27:53.600 you in the chat. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, by the way, Nick, just, uh, when we go center,

00:27:57.860 you can pull up the stream labs thing. Um, uh, actually good point. Nevermind. You guys are

00:28:04.340 going 60. Oh, okay. The, uh, the 10 to 12 roster, your now husband, was he dating you while

00:28:21.000 you have the roster? No. Okay. Um, I had to grow through that and realize that it was

00:28:28.260 eating my soul. And I ended up like seriously repenting and begging God to let me live and

00:28:39.140 not feel shame and guilt and everything else. And then I stopped everything for a couple years.

00:28:45.520 And then I ended up meeting my husband and he's an amazing man. And he took on four teenagers and

00:28:53.420 said, I love you enough to let's do this together. That's beautiful. That's a good man. He's a very

00:29:00.800 good man. How'd you meet him? Online. I was, no, I actually said to him, I said, I'm getting offline.

00:29:09.260 I'm not comfortable anymore doing this. Yeah. It's yeah. I don't like it, but something kept

00:29:15.620 drawing me back to his profile. And so I said, here's my number. If you want to talk to me,

00:29:20.500 call me, but I'm done with the online dating. Oh, that's so sweet. And he stepped up.

00:29:26.160 Totally stepped up. If they wanted to, they would.

00:29:28.580 He, he, what do you mean? If they wanted to, they would like, if they wanted to step up,

00:29:33.680 if they want to be in your life, if they want to do that for you, they would do that because

00:29:36.600 I've been doing that. We actually, Nick, do you remember that home math video that we reacted

00:29:42.840 to about that? If they wanted to. Oh yeah, that's, that's a bit different. It's a, how does it go?

00:29:54.000 I think she has a, what is it? Oh, if he doesn't. She'll find someone who will. Is that what you said?

00:30:02.020 Yeah. And you said if they wanted to, they would to. And so what does that mean?

00:30:07.540 Just more of like, if they want to put in the effort, they would, if they want to be there for

00:30:10.840 you, they would, if they want to show you that they care, they would. Basically like you wouldn't

00:30:15.200 have to ask them. You wouldn't like training your boyfriend or training your significant other to

00:30:20.080 do the things that you would want. Um, they wouldn't ask you if they actually wanted to do it or they

00:30:25.360 wouldn't, you wouldn't have to ask them to do something if they actually wanted to do it.

00:30:29.040 That's valid, but it's also like, it's not no hate on guys whatsoever, but it's also like,

00:30:32.960 sometimes guys don't know what you specifically want versus other people. So it's more like,

00:30:37.720 that's just a communication thing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. But I'm just like,

00:30:41.000 on my first date with my ex, he literally like picked me up and he'd like an hour before like

00:30:46.320 took like set up like this, like, like, wow. Okay. He set up like this blanket and like this like

00:30:51.220 painting and got like my favorite Mexican food and picked me up. We went over and like watched the

00:30:54.940 sunset and we built like a fire. First date, met the guy. Like what? Yeah. So I'm just like,

00:30:59.440 if they wanted to, they would. Well, see, that's exactly what she said too. Do you think I should

00:31:02.840 do that though? If they like a girl, if they're serious about a girl, I think so. I think put

00:31:06.880 your all in like that because if you do that, I'll reciprocate it back. Bucky Larson donated $71.

00:31:13.340 Ladies, you're engaged for two months and your soon to be husband earns $200,000 per year. Ladies,

00:31:21.020 would you end an engagement if he said he does not want to have a joint checking account with

00:31:25.940 you? Yes, absolutely. There's another one that's coming in immediately. Maybe later. Vampire

00:31:35.640 Lord donated $69. Which chat platform do y'all use when watching the casual chats? Is it YouTube,

00:31:43.560 Twitch or another platform? I want to be sure I'm on the right one to be seen when chatting.

00:31:49.120 Uh, we don't, you do mean the vampire Lord. Can you clarify? Do you mean what the panel

00:31:54.600 is seeing? We don't even put the chats. We used to for the first maybe 70 shows actually

00:32:01.960 show the chat, but the panelists would just, they couldn't behave themselves and they'd just

00:32:07.080 be reading the chat the entire time, not even paying attention to the conversation. So we

00:32:12.100 don't have chat visible for anybody on the panel. The only like, so the only thing you'll see,

00:32:17.360 we'll be able to see really are the reads and the TTSs that come through. It would be nice to

00:32:24.080 obviously be able to interact with the normal chat, but just the nature of the show, there's

00:32:28.160 ongoing conversation. So, uh, yeah, but thank you for your TTS man. Appreciate it. But the primary

00:32:33.800 chat though, uh, there are times where we do pull up the chat if we have to pull or something

00:32:39.000 that's on YouTube. We always pull up the YouTube chat. Going back to Bucky Larson, he asked,

00:32:44.660 you're engaged for two months and you're soon to be husband. Actually, hold on. Let me, Bucky,

00:32:48.260 I'm going to come back to that. I'm going to come back to your blanket thing. So your first date

00:32:51.640 with the guy you dated for five months, uh, he put like there were roses and there was food.

00:32:57.640 It was just, it was just a, it was just a blanket. Yeah. It was just a blanket and it was like

00:33:01.460 overlooking like the sunset, like on like kind of like a cliff. So there's like a beach like down

00:33:05.080 below and stuff. Okay. That's not too, no, but then he brought like acrylic paint and brought like

00:33:10.100 my favorite food and like, Oh, okay. He did bring. And then brought like firewood.

00:33:13.680 This is a first date? First date. Did he know you, were you friends before?

00:33:17.080 I met him through a friend in my chemical engineering class. I was friends with her

00:33:21.220 and then it was like her boyfriend's friend. So. Wait, he brought paint? So you guys painted?

00:33:26.460 Yeah, we painted. We literally painted the sunset.

00:33:29.100 Reap what you so donated $69. The original Vivian Ward, Cruella DeVille,

00:33:35.200 and a goth muffin top walk into a podcast. This looks like a modern Disney film in the making.

00:33:41.780 Who's Cruella DeVille? Okay. You're Cruella DeVille. I'm kidding. That makes me the muffin top. Um,

00:33:47.040 you are typing over a screen. Just want to remind you of that. So I'm sure you look just as fried.

00:33:53.400 If not more. Shots fired. Okay. Uh, TTS has now been bumped guys to back to 200 FYI. Hold on. Let me just

00:34:01.680 make sure that's all set here. Uh, one sec boys. Okay. Uh, that should be set. TTS has been bumped.

00:34:08.960 I will bring back up the ones that already came. The, from Bucky and Cruella, I will get you guys in.

00:34:15.460 Uh, okay. Um, wait. Oh, Brian, I leveled a prop warrior from zero to 60 in Woe Classic because of this.

00:34:23.660 Can you boost me DM? Living on a thin line at the moment. Okay. That's a kinks reference.

00:34:27.940 I don't play World of Warcraft. I don't play video games anymore. Uh, I used to four years ago. I don't,

00:34:34.540 but I don't play video games anymore. I still like will occasionally catch Twitch streams and stuff,

00:34:38.620 but that's the extent of it. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Sorry. Just, oh, okay. Hold on.

00:34:41.960 There's a bunch coming in. I'll read it. Just, just to be fair. I agree with your choice. If they could

00:34:45.760 see the stuff being said, it would get wild on here for sure. LOL. Thank you for the clarification though.

00:34:51.040 This is my first time interacting with y'all. Thank you. Well, that's the other thing too,

00:34:54.800 is like if the chat gets nasty, then they just shut down and, um, cause when you're anonymous,

00:35:00.560 people are just going to like say nasty things and stuff. So did I miss any other 69s that came

00:35:04.700 through Nick? I caught them. Okay. All right guys, just heads up, pull it back up. TTS is back up to,

00:35:11.960 uh, uh, hide it for a sec. Yo crazy. Thank you. Thank you. Hold on. Hide it for a sec. Crazy. Thank you

00:35:18.360 for the gifted 20 subs on Twitch. Appreciate it, man. Thank you. Thank you. You can pull it back up guys.

00:35:22.240 TTS is now 200 read 100. Appreciate you guys. Um, okay. So. Oh, okay. I have a question.

00:35:30.640 Hold on. Yeah. Paint. Paints. Like you guys, you painted like a, like he has a can,

00:35:34.980 like he brought a canvas. Okay. I will say that was our first original date. We had like a double

00:35:39.740 date. He was a golfer. So like, we all went on like, just to like see like the vibe. And how did,

00:35:43.680 how did he know your favorite food? Okay. That was my question. He texted me. He asked. Yeah. He asked.

00:35:49.320 Damn. These guys be doing all this extra shit. I think effort is hot. Like it just shows

00:35:55.820 that they're interested. And I think, um, but so it doesn't matter like what length they

00:36:01.360 go to. If they show that they care and find something specific to what she likes or what

00:36:05.600 you like. Here, here's the guy's perspective. Yeah. Effort is hot. Why can't y'all do that

00:36:10.580 shit? Who said we don't? Who said we don't? We do. You don't. I do. I know. I do. Bullshit.

00:36:15.660 But no fucking. I used to clean his house just because he would like. After you were

00:36:19.900 in a relationship, right? I mean, yeah. On the first date, did you do it? No, I didn't

00:36:24.260 go to his house. Second date? I didn't go to his house a while. Right. So once the relationship

00:36:28.240 was more established. I would buy him some food. I would drive him. Like I would, I would

00:36:32.060 go both ways. Right. But this idea of put, guys should put more effort in. Like it's kind

00:36:37.340 of. It's in my opinion, it should be 100%, 100% both ways. It shouldn't be one. It isn't.

00:36:42.580 But it isn't. I'm just saying that was my opinion. But being old fashioned, you, you

00:36:46.620 want to be pursued as a woman. You don't want to be the pursuer. And my husband told me he

00:36:53.080 used to take notes when we would talk and then he would be like, set up the next date

00:36:58.160 based on all our conversations and do something really sweet. So like, it's like, you really

00:37:05.300 want to show me that you love me and I'll, and if you do that for me, I'll do that back

00:37:08.880 because sometimes people in this world, they don't want to do that. They just want

00:37:12.180 to like, just hit it. Yeah. But then you'll also encounter women where you, if you do

00:37:15.980 all that extra shit, you come off desperate and like, just. Then she doesn't know your

00:37:20.160 worth. Then you leave her and you find the next woman that appreciates you. Yeah.

00:37:24.420 It's about the competitive. It's about the compatibility. Also kind of just a man, a man

00:37:29.560 is secure when a woman appreciates what he does. Now, if a woman's not appreciating it

00:37:36.760 and not showing, if they're not showing that they appreciate those small things, then yeah,

00:37:42.540 he, he should bounce. I feel like everyone should just be appreciative of everyone and

00:37:46.180 everyone should just say, I love you. I thank you. I see you for this and I see what you're

00:37:50.340 doing for me and I appreciate you. Also it's the way it's perceived. So like if, if like a,

00:37:55.220 if like a guy were to, that I didn't have an interest in were to do that for me, then

00:38:01.000 it would be like perceived as maybe like overbearing or too much or even creepy. Like, why are you

00:38:07.060 taking me to this remote place? Like, what are you doing? I'm hanging off a cliff. Like

00:38:10.800 that could be perceived differently if you weren't interested in the guy already originally.

00:38:14.820 Same with taking notes off of my conversations. I would be a little creeped out. If I didn't

00:38:19.620 like him, I'd be like, what are you doing? But it's like, it's sweet. It's like, oh,

00:38:22.980 you think about me that much that you write down my birthday. You think of this, you FaceTime me

00:38:27.340 and be like, oh, here, like I thought of you. And like both of those, both of those examples

00:38:31.200 of like a, a man doing something like forthright to like show his interest in you. Both did not

00:38:36.200 cost probably more than anything really. Like a first, a first date.

00:38:41.340 Paint is fucking expensive.

00:38:45.100 I'm an artist. It doesn't have to be. I'm a painter.

00:38:49.380 The effort doesn't have to be expensive. It doesn't have to pay. It doesn't have to cost

00:38:53.740 money. It just has to be like, literally pick up a rock on the side of the road and say, here you go.

00:38:57.460 I literally thought of you and I love you. And just like literally anything.

00:39:01.000 It costs nothing to just type something in your notes.

00:39:04.740 But there's a difference between the effort that you put in once there's an established

00:39:07.920 relationship. And then you're just meeting this person.

00:39:10.860 I agree.

00:39:11.300 You don't really know how they move.

00:39:13.440 Definitely.

00:39:13.740 For example, can I ask perhaps both of you a question? Not to throw you under the bus.

00:39:18.380 You're currently having sexual intercourse with 10 to 15 men. I would like for you to make a

00:39:24.360 convincing argument that I ought to, I ought to extend the kind of treatment that you guys are

00:39:31.700 talking about to somebody who's currently sleeping with 10 to 15 other people. Do you think that

00:39:36.700 treatment with multiple people though?

00:39:38.680 Yeah. You'll still, you still get it, but there's a question of deserving it.

00:39:42.320 And it's temporary.

00:39:43.620 I say personally, you just have to know your worth and know that you are gorgeous and you

00:39:48.280 are beautiful. And that I know you've probably been told this by so many people, but genuinely

00:39:52.260 it doesn't change until you start believing it. You are worth to have just one man and to

00:39:57.280 have that man love you so much and just like give you their all. I'm like, personally, I'm

00:40:01.600 Christian. So like, I won't get like religious on here, but like, just you deserve to have love

00:40:08.180 and respect from someone and you deserve to have. Or many people, if that's what you

00:40:12.140 desire.

00:40:12.920 Yes.

00:40:13.240 Because you can.

00:40:13.940 Because you can.

00:40:14.140 It's about the desire and the want.

00:40:15.940 Okay. But like, so here's this like, all right, a guy should do this like traditional

00:40:21.260 chivalrous thing. He should be chivalrous. In my view, men only ought to be chivalrous if

00:40:28.400 the woman is whatever the reverse of that is, AKA a lady. You want gentlemanly treatment,

00:40:34.480 you ought to be a lady. She's still going to get it. She'll still get it because there's

00:40:39.860 a bunch of simps out there that have no respect for themselves. That's totally fine. But there's

00:40:45.440 no scenario where I'm going to do all those romantic gestures towards a woman who's entertaining

00:40:51.440 multiple other men.

00:40:53.260 Well, because that's not what you want.

00:40:55.600 No, they win the long run. The ones that stick around though.

00:40:58.360 What's that?

00:40:59.120 The ones that stick around though, they stay.

00:41:01.740 Okay. Well, why do you think they stay? Out of genuine curiosity.

00:41:05.500 They're pressed. They're pressed to get pussy.

00:41:08.240 No. It's about a relationship more so. I build friendships and stuff with people I sleep with.

00:41:13.220 Yeah. I'm really close.

00:41:14.240 Do you think, do you think.

00:41:15.980 Closer to the mic, baby. He was saying closer to the mic. You're okay. You're okay.

00:41:20.220 Do you think they respect you?

00:41:22.480 Yeah. Fully.

00:41:23.900 Especially since she's being honest with them. It's not like she's intentionally like deceiving

00:41:27.740 deceiving them. And I don't let men degrade me in any way, shape, or form.

00:41:31.040 And no man should ever degrade a woman and no woman should ever degrade a man.

00:41:33.500 Sorry. I'm not, I'm going to just give you a hard line right now. They don't respect you.

00:41:39.400 They don't.

00:41:40.140 Yeah.

00:41:41.060 They don't. They have zero respect for you.

00:41:43.480 Or they don't have respect for themselves.

00:41:45.300 They want your pussy and that's all.

00:41:47.240 Yeah, but it depends.

00:41:47.440 And that is all you are to them.

00:41:49.180 It depends on what their definition of respect is.

00:41:50.660 And that might be all she wants to be at the time though.

00:41:52.820 Yeah.

00:41:53.260 That might be all she wants to be at the time though.

00:41:55.300 And like, like you said.

00:41:56.380 Someone to stick around.

00:41:56.960 I mean, so exactly what you were saying. Why would she, like, I mean, you just said,

00:42:00.640 like, you, like, you don't care about that stuff. You're like, I don't mind. So she doesn't

00:42:03.700 mind. She doesn't mind. But like, personally.

00:42:05.520 I mean, I think people go through phases in life too, right?

00:42:08.280 True.

00:42:08.360 Do you meet people?

00:42:09.160 Oh, no.

00:42:09.680 I'm just like, it's a change.

00:42:10.860 No, no, no. I'm not saying you are going through phases. I'm just saying everybody's on their own

00:42:15.180 journey and everybody's looking for something, right? So for example, you, you're attracting

00:42:19.300 other men that are kind of on your vibe, right? And you're probably attracting people that

00:42:24.480 are on the similar journey of what you're looking for. So you can't say someone's disrespecting

00:42:29.600 you and you're right. So that's why I'm...

00:42:33.280 I think it's fine. I think it's fixed. Chat, just refresh. Chat, just refresh if you had

00:42:38.560 any lag. It's working again. Sorry, guys. It doesn't look like we, I don't see dropped

00:42:43.260 frames. So I don't think it was too bad. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Continue.

00:42:47.140 I'm just kind of answering your question in a way. Why would a guy go out of his way

00:42:51.460 on the first date? I think it's because he probably met you and he felt how you are and

00:42:57.140 he kind of knew your intentions and what you're looking for and he knew what he wanted.

00:43:01.620 So I think it's totally cool that he did that for you. I agree. And I think you, if you

00:43:06.500 want that in the future, you will attract people that would do that for you. Yeah.

00:43:09.700 Yeah. It's followed the walk. There's a huge difference in dating to date and there's

00:43:16.580 a huge difference in dating to marry. Yeah. Dating for a long time. Yeah. Obviously.

00:43:21.760 And so... Can I just interject and say one thing? So, and I mean this in like the most respectful

00:43:26.860 way. When you were in between marriages, you were sleeping with roughly the same amount

00:43:31.800 of people as Amber is sleeping with currently. So just like how she is just as deserving as finding

00:43:39.020 the husband that you found that stood up to the plate. She is too. That's just not the

00:43:43.120 stage that she's currently in because she's 22 and hot and lives in LA.

00:43:47.420 At the same time, you are literally eating away at your soul when you're doing that. It is harmful

00:43:53.880 to your psyche. It breaks you down as a human being. And one day, one day, not now, might not

00:44:02.040 be 10 years, might not be 20 years. One day, you will feel shame for the way you're behaving.

00:44:08.600 And if you don't feel shame for the way you're behaving, then you have not grown at all.

00:44:14.640 And the thing is... Why would you have to go through that?

00:44:17.140 Yeah. The thing is, if you change your behavior now, you can get on a different path and you

00:44:25.640 cannot do the damage to your soul. But if you continue in this behavior...

00:44:31.120 Soul is what it is.

00:44:32.200 Can I interject? Are you looking to find a husband or are you just...

00:44:35.700 No.

00:44:36.300 I don't know what you want.

00:44:38.240 Do you want... Would you like a...

00:44:40.560 Oh my God, yes.

00:44:41.180 Would you like a... Would you like one partner in the future?

00:44:43.620 That's not something that you desire?

00:44:45.100 I don't think so.

00:44:45.680 Can I ask why? Just out of curiosity?

00:44:48.180 Trauma. Probably just trauma.

00:44:49.760 I mean, I've personally had a lot of trauma in the past as well. Probably nothing compared

00:44:53.500 to yours or whatever. But just like...

00:44:55.480 Don't ever compare trauma. Everyone.

00:44:56.760 Yeah.

00:44:57.680 That's a valid statement. But it's just like, if you really... Everyone deserves that.

00:45:02.780 If you're... I mean...

00:45:04.340 Everyone deserves love, period.

00:45:06.080 I think people have to go through their own path in a way to grow.

00:45:09.460 Yeah.

00:45:09.720 Like, I don't think anyone can just say, you have to do it like this. You have to do it

00:45:12.960 like this.

00:45:13.320 Yeah. There's no one right way.

00:45:15.040 Ever.

00:45:15.360 You can change your mind.

00:45:16.700 Are you going to change your mind or you might or not?

00:45:18.800 Maybe there's a person that will come across my path and change my mind.

00:45:21.860 But I don't see it as of now because, I mean, I live in LA. Everyone's pretty shady.

00:45:26.940 There's no one that's loyal.

00:45:28.520 There are people that are loyal everywhere.

00:45:30.580 Not in LA.

00:45:31.600 Yes, there are.

00:45:32.320 It's very hard to find people in our scene, I agree with.

00:45:35.220 But the great thing about Amber's lifestyle is that you don't have to live it.

00:45:37.960 We have a choice.

00:45:39.360 Exactly.

00:45:39.760 I will support whatever my friend wants to do. That's her life.

00:45:43.560 Definitely.

00:45:44.280 Of course.

00:45:44.760 If she wants to have fun and she feels fulfilled with how she is.

00:45:48.300 You're not having anybody else.

00:45:49.440 You can find loyal people.

00:45:51.000 It just depends on where you're looking.

00:45:52.640 You're not going to find a loyal man in a bar drinking with his butt.

00:45:56.380 I mean, maybe you will.

00:45:57.160 But just also, if you go to a party, probably not going to be the most loyal.

00:46:01.480 It's also where you go to find your people.

00:46:03.720 But you never know who's actually loyal anyway.

00:46:06.380 So you just have to trust regardless.

00:46:08.080 If you can't grow through your experiences, then you just don't become a fulfilled person.

00:46:17.680 So even though you're here right now, you hopefully, hopefully will grow through this and look back and go, eh, could have done things different.

00:46:28.860 But, like, what is growth really?

00:46:32.040 Like, it's different for every person.

00:46:34.160 It's learning from your mistakes.

00:46:34.640 Yeah.

00:46:35.020 But you can learn from your mistakes and still have a different path than you would choose completely and still be completely fulfilled and happy.

00:46:42.420 Can I ask you something?

00:46:43.460 So you said there's just nobody in L.A.

00:46:46.560 So if there were, would you go a different path?

00:46:49.860 Maybe.

00:46:50.220 I don't know.

00:46:50.820 So she will grow.

00:46:51.940 I mean, not grow in that way.

00:46:53.520 I think you will.

00:46:54.320 As long as you portray yourself in that way, you'll attract the people that you want to attract by the way you look, the way you dress, the way you act, the way you talk.

00:47:01.340 You'll attract the people that are like you in that way.

00:47:02.680 And she's happy with that currently.

00:47:04.000 Exactly, which is totally fine.

00:47:05.500 That was just my opinion on that.

00:47:06.920 And it doesn't mean she has to feel shame later on.

00:47:09.000 Yeah.

00:47:09.840 I personally, I'll say this right now, I was on this podcast twice before this.

00:47:13.920 And my body count was 100, 200.

00:47:17.400 I didn't even know.

00:47:18.200 I lost track.

00:47:18.840 I didn't care to know.

00:47:20.060 And I'm just going to say this right now.

00:47:21.760 I was in the exact same position.

00:47:24.560 Jameson, 2029, donated $200.

00:47:28.900 Hey, Elle, Smile, and everyone on the podcast, would the ladies date an introvert slash someone who is not a social butterfly type of guy?

00:47:37.660 Just hands up, would you date an introvert?

00:47:40.180 I'd prefer that.

00:47:41.720 Yeah, of course.

00:47:42.700 I mean, I'm not going to hate a guy on if he's introvert or extrovert.

00:47:45.520 I feel like you're better at all.

00:47:46.860 Yo, Jameson.

00:47:48.620 Jameson, thank you for the 200.

00:47:50.280 TTS, man, appreciate it.

00:47:51.600 Thank you.

00:47:51.860 Thank you.

00:47:52.400 Go ahead.

00:47:53.600 But like I was saying, I'm someone that was in the exact same place as Amber is now.

00:47:59.260 And we were both on a fucking slut crazy rampage.

00:48:04.220 And like I'm just saying, like now I'm in a committed monogamous relationship, which is something I never foresaw for myself.

00:48:11.580 But I found a person that I am attached to and was willing to, you know, completely drop that lifestyle that I was doing.

00:48:19.500 But in no way do I feel shame for it.

00:48:21.920 In no way do I feel like my soul was eaten or I was harmed.

00:48:25.660 I was having relationships with consenting adults.

00:48:30.400 I never was deceitful towards anyone.

00:48:33.000 And therefore I know in my soul and in my heart that I am a good person.

00:48:37.860 I am a loyal friend and all of those amazing characteristics that I'm sure a lot of us have.

00:48:42.220 And in no way, shape, or form am I going to degrade myself or make myself feel shameful for the actions that I had at a time and place.

00:48:50.100 Would I do it now?

00:48:50.920 Would I do it again after this relationship ends?

00:48:53.280 Hopefully it doesn't.

00:48:54.100 But if it were to, probably not.

00:48:56.480 But that doesn't mean that.

00:48:57.900 And yes, that means growth for sure like you're expressing.

00:49:01.040 But in no way do I feel shameful or like what I did was wrong.

00:49:04.060 You can feel however you want to feel about your past actions.

00:49:08.500 That's totally fine.

00:49:09.420 And frankly, I don't think, I don't really care how you feel.

00:49:13.240 I don't care if you feel shameful.

00:49:14.580 I don't care if you don't give a fuck at all about, you know, past promiscuity.

00:49:18.620 This is a dating podcast.

00:49:20.300 So from the male purview, men don't want to, typically, most men don't want to date and or marry women who have a past or current of promiscuity.

00:49:30.260 Yeah, and I had to change in order to attract a good man.

00:49:36.480 Now, he has no idea about my past.

00:49:39.420 Because we've just never discussed this.

00:49:42.900 I was telling him, I'm like, you don't need to watch.

00:49:46.100 He's watching.

00:49:46.640 But I had to change my ways.

00:49:51.280 I had to say, if I want a high quality man, I have to be a high quality woman.

00:49:56.600 And that does not include sleeping with a bunch of people.

00:50:01.360 He said, you need to get over.

00:50:03.420 Exactly.

00:50:04.080 It just doesn't.

00:50:05.080 You attract the people that you're around.

00:50:06.700 Yeah.

00:50:06.920 I did want to have a conversation that we were having about this effort component here.

00:50:11.100 Men should put in more effort.

00:50:14.760 And I assume.

00:50:15.160 More effort.

00:50:16.000 Why should?

00:50:16.800 Do you mean more effort than women?

00:50:18.500 More effort in general?

00:50:19.600 What do you mean?

00:50:19.880 In general.

00:50:20.360 I hear these complaints frequently from women that men don't put in any effort.

00:50:24.840 Men don't put in effort anymore.

00:50:26.400 Since when have women really ever put in effort when it comes to the initial stages of building a relationship?

00:50:33.460 Typically, in the beginning, it usually is the man.

00:50:36.120 I just said the man.

00:50:38.080 I didn't hear what you said.

00:50:39.040 I'm sorry.

00:50:39.320 I just said they don't.

00:50:40.280 Okay.

00:50:40.400 Well, you are you.

00:50:41.060 No, hold on.

00:50:41.440 Let her speak.

00:50:41.940 Go ahead.

00:50:42.640 I was just going to say, because typically women or some women like the traditional way more and so do the men.

00:50:47.800 So, like, the men usually swoon.

00:50:49.160 Like you were saying before, that's usually, I mean, that's how I was growing up, is the men usually swoon a little bit more and then they catch the women.

00:50:54.540 Because the women are supposed to be the catch.

00:50:55.860 The women aren't, in my opinion, the women aren't supposed to be the ones chasing.

00:50:59.080 That's personally how I've been growing up.

00:51:00.760 And I'm just like, I think that's, like, the right way.

00:51:03.260 I don't think a woman should ever have to chase a man.

00:51:05.760 But, I mean, if you find someone attractive and stuff, then obviously put in more effort from there.

00:51:09.780 And just, like, if the guy catches your eye.

00:51:11.740 And I will say, my mom brought me up.

00:51:13.840 And my mom is a little crazy, so let's just put that pin in that.

00:51:18.580 She told me, she said, always have a relationship with men that like you more than you like them.

00:51:27.400 That's true, though.

00:51:28.140 I've been told that as well.

00:51:29.160 No, it has to be the reverse.

00:51:31.400 The woman has to like the man more than the reverse.

00:51:34.960 That just does not work out properly.

00:51:38.380 That's how it is.

00:51:39.320 But there's no such thing as equally.

00:51:41.000 Because interests and, in general, like, there's so many different levels to the loving and the liking.

00:51:49.220 Like, everyone loves completely different.

00:51:51.200 And everyone expresses it in different ways.

00:51:54.580 But it is, it does usually work out better when a man just loves more than a woman.

00:52:03.740 Because a woman is already so emotional and is already so invested into everything from the beginning.

00:52:11.500 That it just, it's more heartbreaking for a woman to love more, period.

00:52:17.600 If that were the case, then, have you heard of, I don't know if it's exactly a meme, but women will often complain that they have a bunch of men that are interested in them.

00:52:28.160 But the guy that they like doesn't like them.

00:52:31.400 So how could it possibly be the case that women will turn down dozens of men that are displaying immense amount of interest in them, but have their eye, like, putting those guys to the side, but have their eye on the guy that they, I want him, but he doesn't want me.

00:52:48.740 Because it's natural to want what you can't have.

00:52:51.760 Right, but that totally, hold on.

00:52:52.940 But that totally, then, your whole thing, your argument of, well, my mom told me that it's better for the guy to like you more than the reverse, whereas if men were.

00:53:02.760 But you still have to like them, though.

00:53:04.100 You still have to like them.

00:53:05.900 It's not about, like, oh, you don't like them at all.

00:53:09.360 But you just made the argument that the guy has to like you more, more, more, more.

00:53:16.320 But it doesn't matter how much.

00:53:18.160 It's like, it could be a little bit more.

00:53:20.420 It could be like, it's just about the expression and the investment.

00:53:24.820 And women are already more invested from the start.

00:53:28.840 It's not true.

00:53:29.160 It's not true at all.

00:53:30.300 That's not typically true.

00:53:31.420 Okay, well, let me ask you this.

00:53:32.340 Women have, I don't think you understand the degree of sexual optionality that women have compared to men.

00:53:37.940 I actually understand it quite, quite a bit.

00:53:41.200 Brian, let me ask you.

00:53:41.660 Remember, I've made a lot of people at a time.

00:53:45.460 Okay, cool.

00:53:45.940 You're making my argument for me.

00:53:47.200 So, since women have.

00:53:48.880 Yeah, but we all like each other.

00:53:49.760 Yeah, can you stop interrupting?

00:53:50.960 So, because women have.

00:53:54.080 Can somebody.

00:53:54.540 This is the second time somebody's phone has gone off.

00:53:57.300 That's just my alarm.

00:53:58.300 Sorry.

00:54:00.140 Turn off my alarm.

00:54:01.340 I silenced my phone.

00:54:02.760 Yeah.

00:54:02.940 All right.

00:54:05.120 So, totally lost my train of thought.

00:54:09.620 About the argument that men have to love.

00:54:11.820 And then she's saying that she's been with multiple partners at once.

00:54:14.220 And you said that that's.

00:54:15.620 I was just saying that.

00:54:16.140 I lost my train of thought because of the alarm.

00:54:17.620 Can somebody.

00:54:22.580 You had a thought.

00:54:23.100 Well, let me ask you.

00:54:23.680 Jumpstart me here.

00:54:24.540 Can I.

00:54:24.880 Let me ask you.

00:54:25.240 No, no, no, no.

00:54:25.680 Don't ask me.

00:54:26.480 Jumpstart my thought.

00:54:27.900 That the women.

00:54:29.860 Or.

00:54:30.500 That the men should.

00:54:31.680 She said that the women is more invested in the men in the beginning of the relationship.

00:54:35.840 And you were saying that's not typically true.

00:54:37.280 And then she was saying how her mom was saying that.

00:54:40.280 What did your mom say?

00:54:41.140 Well.

00:54:41.760 That was first.

00:54:43.000 That was first.

00:54:43.800 And then I said.

00:54:44.460 You were saying that women have multiple options.

00:54:47.220 I was talking about.

00:54:47.800 Oh, yeah.

00:54:48.220 The options.

00:54:48.800 Yeah, I was talking about sexual optionality.

00:54:51.000 So.

00:54:51.220 Yes.

00:54:51.480 There's such a massive gulf and differential between the sexual optionality that men and women have.

00:54:56.980 So an average woman, if she's so inclined, she could have the same amount, quantity of sexual options as like an A-list celebrity, male athlete, movie star, musician, billionaire, et cetera.

00:55:12.320 Average girl like you, you're a 19-year-old girl who goes to UCSB who studies math.

00:55:17.040 You have the equivalent sexual optionality as an A-list celebrity, movie star, whatever, what have you.

00:55:23.380 If you wanted to sleep with three guys a day, could you?

00:55:25.600 Yeah, but I wouldn't.

00:55:27.780 Well, right.

00:55:28.320 You maybe wouldn't want to do that, but you could.

00:55:31.240 In order for a guy to be able to sleep with three women a day, he has to be in the top 1% of men or be bringing major status.

00:55:40.120 Or lower his standards.

00:55:41.760 Lower his standards.

00:55:43.700 It's about lowering standards.

00:55:45.800 Even if he lowers his standards, he can't fuck three girls a day.

00:55:49.560 I have met men who did.

00:55:52.040 I have dated men who did.

00:55:53.660 You've met average dudes who can fuck three girls a day even if they lower their standards.

00:55:58.680 Okay, and they did not even lower their standards.

00:56:01.120 All the girls were hot.

00:56:02.680 What?

00:56:03.520 Yeah.

00:56:04.140 I have dated men.

00:56:05.840 I have dated men that have a live-in, I mean, a wife, and then a girlfriend, and then they have like three more as well.

00:56:17.520 It's a polyamorous thing.

00:56:18.480 Did you hear what I actually said, though?

00:56:20.460 Well, yes.

00:56:21.180 Okay, so to procure a brand new girl that you've never met before, either through a dating app or out on the street, do you think that most, like, what percentage of the average man can pull three girls a day?

00:56:32.960 Can I add something to that?

00:56:33.860 Answer the question.

00:56:34.980 Answer the question.

00:56:35.800 Well, I don't really like men too much, so I don't think that there's too many men who can do that.

00:56:44.280 What percentage?

00:56:45.520 Well, I'm not going to go into, okay, let's say about 25% of men can do it.

00:56:50.940 However, it can be up to, like, 40 if men put in more effort in, let's say, what they're wearing, how they're styling themselves, and how they talk, how they improve themselves.

00:57:02.360 You think 40% of the average male, if they just dress right and get a haircut, they can fuck three new girls a day.

00:57:11.480 Answer the question.

00:57:12.960 Answer the actual question.

00:57:14.280 Yes, if they improve their confidence.

00:57:16.260 They can pull three girls a day.

00:57:18.620 Yes.

00:57:18.900 You're insane.

00:57:19.640 I'm sorry.

00:57:20.520 You're absolutely insane.

00:57:21.700 Well, okay, but I'm sorry.

00:57:22.740 Can they get girls?

00:57:23.240 You look the way that you do, so it's like.

00:57:25.080 Can they get girls?

00:57:26.140 Through dating apps, they could get girls.

00:57:27.540 No, bro.

00:57:28.780 I know so many people that are.

00:57:30.980 Delusional, actually delusional.

00:57:32.360 Okay, I think in general, women put, on average, a little more effort into how they present themselves.

00:57:39.180 Exactly.

00:57:39.860 So we can't, like, judge completely based on that.

00:57:42.560 Like, if men, if some, you call average men, put in a little more effort, just like the

00:57:47.420 girl who wants.

00:57:48.000 Okay.

00:57:48.520 Exactly.

00:57:49.040 A little makeup around the eyes.

00:57:51.180 Okay.

00:57:51.320 Here.

00:57:51.780 Okay.

00:57:52.160 Just that, but just.

00:57:53.520 So, but.

00:57:54.300 Well, yeah, though, but like.

00:57:55.740 Okay, cool.

00:57:56.300 Yeah, no, I get you.

00:57:56.900 It's the confidence.

00:57:57.600 So, I'll just give you the reverse of your argument, then.

00:58:00.240 If a girl makes absolutely no effort, she doesn't put any makeup on, she rolls out of bed,

00:58:04.940 she's wearing sweatpants, her hair's all disheveled, she can go out into the street and

00:58:08.760 fuck ten guys in a day or two.

00:58:09.820 I disagree.

00:58:11.100 I disagree because I was that girl.

00:58:13.820 I was that girl at a time.

00:58:15.680 When I was.

00:58:16.380 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:58:17.300 You were that girl at a time.

00:58:18.440 Did you go up to ten men on the street and ask them point blank period, will you have

00:58:23.880 sex with me right now?

00:58:24.920 Why the fuck would I do that?

00:58:26.640 You're not even engaging in good faith here.

00:58:29.300 That's literally what I'm talking about.

00:58:31.000 That's what it sounds like.

00:58:31.340 That's literally what I'm talking about.

00:58:32.820 Okay, well, except I would not be able to get those ten guys to sleep with me if I did

00:58:39.640 ask at those times.

00:58:40.780 I'm cutting you off.

00:58:41.640 So, let me translate.

00:58:43.700 This is your argument.

00:58:45.680 So, I was that girl who, you know, woke up, didn't put makeup on, wore sweatpants, was

00:58:52.080 disheveled.

00:58:53.760 Is that your fucking phone?

00:58:55.160 Sorry.

00:58:55.400 Turn it off.

00:58:57.680 Yeah, turn it off.

00:59:01.720 Here, go out this way.

00:59:05.080 Just let it.

00:59:05.600 Why get her up?

00:59:06.500 Just pass her the phone.

00:59:10.420 I was going to say, also, kind of, do you want me to keep your thought?

00:59:16.940 Why wouldn't we have just passed?

00:59:18.740 Okay.

00:59:20.920 So, you didn't wear makeup.

00:59:24.240 You were disheveled.

00:59:25.400 You, and so, your point of view is that guys just didn't come up to you.

00:59:34.420 That's your argument.

00:59:35.540 No, no, I.

00:59:36.300 That's your argument.

00:59:37.080 No, no.

00:59:37.520 I have tried to be friends with people.

00:59:40.200 I've tried to be friends with guys, with women, with everybody.

00:59:43.680 But a lot more people physically and literally rejected me as a person just based on how I

00:59:49.560 was looking, period.

00:59:51.400 Like, it actually does matter a lot.

00:59:53.780 Like, pretty privilege is a real thing.

00:59:56.760 Okay.

00:59:56.960 So, here.

00:59:57.960 Why don't we operate from the scenario that I gave you?

01:00:00.820 Sleeping with three new people in a day.

01:00:02.640 Okay.

01:00:02.840 So, who do you think would fare better if I send an average woman or an average man to

01:00:08.600 the street with a billboard, with a sign that says, I'm looking for dick.

01:00:13.540 I'm looking for pussy.

01:00:15.200 Okay.

01:00:15.380 Who's going to get laid?

01:00:16.220 Everyone here is an average woman and you're an average man.

01:00:21.580 So, um.

01:00:22.180 What does that have to do with anything?

01:00:23.460 Answer the actual question.

01:00:24.840 Okay.

01:00:25.080 Because the thing is, is that average man and average woman are already different because

01:00:30.480 average woman already puts in more effort into how she presents herself.

01:00:34.520 I mean, absolutely rolled out of bed, nothing.

01:00:36.180 Literally a five and a five.

01:00:37.340 Have a woman roll out of bed?

01:00:38.140 A five and a five.

01:00:39.300 So, their looks match.

01:00:40.820 Okay.

01:00:41.100 So, they look exactly the same.

01:00:42.840 Yeah.

01:00:43.780 They are looks equivalent.

01:00:45.500 They don't look exactly the same.

01:00:47.100 They would be looks equivalents.

01:00:48.660 Okay.

01:00:49.240 Um.

01:00:50.820 A woman would have an easier time.

01:00:52.740 Yeah.

01:00:53.640 Probably.

01:00:54.620 Yeah.

01:00:54.840 I agree with that.

01:00:55.100 A woman would have an easier time.

01:00:56.660 A woman would have an easier time, but it's not like every single guy is going to, you

01:01:00.420 know, every single guy would say yes.

01:01:02.060 Did I make the argument that every single guy would go up and want to fuck her?

01:01:06.040 No.

01:01:06.620 That's not the argument I'm making.

01:01:08.120 Yeah, but.

01:01:08.540 It could be one out of 20 men.

01:01:10.440 Yeah.

01:01:10.860 That would be enough.

01:01:12.000 Yeah.

01:01:12.240 And that's fine.

01:01:13.060 Right.

01:01:13.300 But I don't know.

01:01:14.100 You're making an argument about something totally different.

01:01:16.380 Okay.

01:01:16.700 Well, my bad.

01:01:17.780 I didn't mean to sidetrack in that particular direction, but it's like, yeah, a woman would have

01:01:24.260 an easier time.

01:01:25.200 But, like, also, men are a little bit more desperate, just to begin with.

01:01:31.360 Do women like desperate men?

01:01:34.420 Not really, but men will pretend that they're not and try.

01:01:38.500 Women definitely like strong, masculine men.

01:01:39.920 That's what you're asking.

01:01:42.100 Okay.

01:01:42.520 Not at all.

01:01:43.000 No, I said typically.

01:01:44.420 Oh, never mind.

01:01:45.260 Sorry.

01:01:46.200 I was just.

01:01:46.680 So, wait.

01:01:47.340 So, you.

01:01:48.100 Do you think that there are more strong, masculine men than there are just attractive women?

01:01:53.400 Uh, I don't really know how to answer that.

01:01:57.040 I would say probably not.

01:01:59.740 I have no idea.

01:02:01.600 Wait.

01:02:01.940 You said.

01:02:02.280 Okay.

01:02:02.480 Here's a different question.

01:02:03.420 Yeah.

01:02:03.540 Do you think there are more attractive women or more attractive men?

01:02:06.380 Uh, personally, in my opinion, more attractive men, because I don't find women attractive.

01:02:12.000 No, no, no.

01:02:12.340 I don't mean.

01:02:12.980 I'm not telling you.

01:02:14.740 Sorry.

01:02:15.260 I took a long job.

01:02:15.760 You don't have to find them sexually or romantically attractive.

01:02:18.480 I just mean, like.

01:02:19.140 I'd say typically the women are, because they usually put in more into, like, their looks,

01:02:22.960 into their makeup, into their hair.

01:02:24.320 I feel like there's more.

01:02:25.380 Just because I feel like there's.

01:02:26.840 Sorry.

01:02:27.160 Did I miss something?

01:02:28.920 That was just a comment.

01:02:30.140 Oh.

01:02:30.540 I just feel like, um.

01:02:33.500 I lost my turn.

01:02:34.120 The women put in more after.

01:02:35.560 Oh.

01:02:35.800 So, typically the women would be prettier, I guess you could say.

01:02:38.680 You disagree?

01:02:39.840 No.

01:02:40.160 I completely agree, because that is the truth.

01:02:42.200 Women, already from the very start, from the very childhood, they are, they have to

01:02:47.720 present a certain way, and they have to look a certain way, and they're taught to act a

01:02:52.180 specific way, and just be a specific way in a, in every single better word, to be the

01:03:00.920 better themselves every single time.

01:03:03.080 I feel like, um, it's not really, like, a super taught thing.

01:03:06.540 Um, I feel like more so than just an, um, an expectation.

01:03:11.620 Yes.

01:03:11.800 That society kind of grooms women to care more about their appearance than they would

01:03:17.260 most, um, males.

01:03:19.540 Um, we have things that are, obviously, like, we have advantages in the sense that women,

01:03:25.000 obviously women, men, and non-binary can all wear makeup.

01:03:28.540 I'm just saying that predominantly, like, a straight male is not going to wear makeup.

01:03:35.040 And me, personally, I look completely different without fake eyelashes, eyeliner, and all

01:03:40.380 of this stuff.

01:03:41.520 So, and also, women are more predominantly going to get boob jobs, um, lip filler, different

01:03:49.000 things like that.

01:03:49.740 They're going to do more to change their appearance than women.

01:03:52.100 Well, men can wear cute outfits, too.

01:03:53.560 Yeah, but it doesn't, they don't...

01:03:55.460 I'll even put on a man's outfit.

01:03:56.960 They don't do it for the figure.

01:03:59.220 They don't do it for, like, the specific style sounds.

01:04:02.040 They just put on a...

01:04:05.040 Yeah.

01:04:05.820 A shirt.

01:04:07.300 I'm going to move with a long relationship status.

01:04:09.660 Perfect.

01:04:10.240 Um, I'm single.

01:04:11.500 Um, and my one and only relationship was three years.

01:04:16.900 What's your name?

01:04:18.180 How long have you been single?

01:04:19.540 No, no.

01:04:20.680 Uh, six months.

01:04:22.300 Six months.

01:04:23.040 Okay.

01:04:23.340 Who ended the relationship?

01:04:24.720 Me.

01:04:25.700 Why is that?

01:04:26.440 We just had a difference in, I would say, like, overall morals and values.

01:04:35.560 We weren't aligned.

01:04:37.440 Mm-hmm.

01:04:38.040 Do you mean, like, uh, were you, are you religious?

01:04:40.960 Yeah.

01:04:41.720 And was he not religious?

01:04:43.920 Uh, no.

01:04:44.960 Not really.

01:04:47.180 Okay.

01:04:48.200 All right.

01:04:49.480 Relationship status?

01:04:50.860 I'm engaged.

01:04:52.720 Oh, my gosh.

01:04:54.380 Weren't you engaged last time?

01:04:55.420 Still engaged.

01:04:58.160 Still the same guy.

01:04:58.980 How long have you been engaged?

01:05:00.980 A few years.

01:05:02.120 Almost two years.

01:05:03.140 Two years.

01:05:03.760 Okay.

01:05:04.720 All right.

01:05:05.240 We got everyone's status.

01:05:07.280 Nick, what were the, the chats that I, uh...

01:05:09.240 He killed a serial, asked, uh, whose parents are the other, and then Bucky...

01:05:12.480 No, he asked how the parents met.

01:05:14.020 How they met, yeah.

01:05:14.540 And then what was the other one?

01:05:15.700 Bucky Larson?

01:05:16.460 Bucky Larson, yeah.

01:05:17.160 He met.

01:05:17.460 Uh, was that, were those the only two that we needed to get back to, or was there another

01:05:22.560 one?

01:05:22.860 That's all I know.

01:05:24.660 Okay.

01:05:25.020 I think I'm right.

01:05:26.080 I think it's just those two.

01:05:28.240 Bucky Larson, ladies, you're engaged for two months, and your soon-to-be husband earns

01:05:32.060 200K a year.

01:05:33.520 Ladies, would you end an engagement if he said he does not want to have a joint checking

01:05:38.460 account with you?

01:05:40.380 No.

01:05:40.900 No?

01:05:41.300 Yes.

01:05:41.700 Yes.

01:05:41.860 Did he say you were engaged?

01:05:42.520 Here, why don't we just go around the table and get people's answers?

01:05:44.600 Go ahead.

01:05:45.280 Wait, well, I don't understand.

01:05:46.600 What do you mean?

01:05:47.780 If, if you're...

01:05:48.780 What?

01:05:49.200 Can you say the question one more time?

01:05:50.340 Did you hear the question?

01:05:51.260 No, I didn't understand it.

01:05:52.320 You didn't understand the question?

01:05:54.260 So, like, if you don't have a joint account, what am I saying?

01:05:56.420 Yes or no to?

01:05:57.040 That's what I was saying.

01:05:57.520 Would you divorce a man if he didn't want to have a joint bank account with you and you

01:06:00.920 guys were married?

01:06:01.620 Yeah.

01:06:01.780 Yeah.

01:06:02.860 Yeah.

01:06:03.060 You weren't there.

01:06:05.180 What about you?

01:06:06.940 No, I would not divorce.

01:06:09.700 Okay.

01:06:10.460 I wouldn't divorce them.

01:06:11.620 I make my own money.

01:06:12.580 Yeah.

01:06:12.940 I wouldn't divorce either.

01:06:15.160 It was an engagement question.

01:06:17.080 I would cut it off before we got married.

01:06:19.280 Oh, yeah.

01:06:19.820 That's right.

01:06:20.060 Oh, yeah.

01:06:20.400 Well, I would not still do it.

01:06:21.840 Yeah.

01:06:22.080 End the engagement if he does not want to have a joint checking account.

01:06:25.540 Absolutely.

01:06:26.300 Yeah.

01:06:26.620 I would definitely.

01:06:27.660 Oh, wait.

01:06:28.300 No, I mean, I would ask them.

01:06:29.840 To the mic, please.

01:06:30.420 No, no.

01:06:32.060 Actually, I don't know.

01:06:32.720 All right.

01:06:33.520 And then we had Killa of Cereal's question.

01:06:37.920 It was, how did your parents meet?

01:06:40.060 Going around the table on that.

01:06:44.020 Starting with you.

01:06:45.600 My parents, well, my mom and dad, it was one night stand and then they had me.

01:06:50.620 So that's how they met.

01:06:52.620 Did they date for a while?

01:06:54.060 No.

01:06:55.160 Okay.

01:06:55.700 Into the, no, they did not.

01:06:59.480 How about you?

01:07:00.420 My parents met in college and they dated for a while.

01:07:03.880 They're not together anymore.

01:07:06.260 And then they had me.

01:07:07.840 And I actually just met my dad like a few months ago.

01:07:11.300 Oh, wow.

01:07:12.180 Good relations.

01:07:13.360 Yeah.

01:07:13.900 It's been awesome.

01:07:14.860 And I love both of them equally.

01:07:17.000 So you have a relationship with your father now?

01:07:18.940 Yes, I do.

01:07:19.900 Beautiful.

01:07:21.060 Well, my parents met in college.

01:07:24.200 They dated for about a year.

01:07:25.900 Then they wanted to get married.

01:07:27.440 My mother's grandparents said no.

01:07:30.240 And they got pregnant and spied so that they could have a wedding.

01:07:33.900 So, sick.

01:07:37.320 My parents met one another in high school and they were dating.

01:07:44.800 But they broke up shortly after my mom found out that she was pregnant with me.

01:07:52.820 Because of the pregnancy?

01:07:55.160 No, I'm sure it was probably something to do with my dad.

01:07:58.120 But I don't think it was necessarily me.

01:08:00.960 But he definitely didn't.

01:08:03.260 I mean, they had me in high school.

01:08:04.960 So, like, obviously, it's not, like, the goal to have a kid in high school.

01:08:08.440 But he kind of went to college.

01:08:10.920 Didn't really believe that I was his biologically.

01:08:14.760 Like, I wasn't his.

01:08:15.620 Because my mom, I guess, was.

01:08:17.700 I don't know what my mom was up to.

01:08:19.140 But I don't want to throw my mom under the bus like that.

01:08:22.120 But, yeah.

01:08:23.100 So, they were never, like, married or anything like that.

01:08:27.600 And shortly after they found out that they were pregnant with me, he went to college and left the state.

01:08:33.120 Do you still have a relationship with him?

01:08:35.100 Yeah, I still have a relationship with both of them.

01:08:37.420 But they both don't live in California.

01:08:39.280 I have no relatives that live here in California.

01:08:41.960 That would be hard.

01:08:42.740 Well, you have really good friends.

01:08:44.140 I have chosen family.

01:08:45.220 Yeah.

01:08:45.600 I have chosen family.

01:08:46.740 I have a lot of good friends that are like my family.

01:08:48.740 To be honest, I can't remember exactly how they met.

01:08:53.240 But my mom and my stepdad.

01:08:54.900 I've known my stepdad for 15 years.

01:08:57.740 So, they met at, like, a birthday party, I think.

01:09:00.800 It was, like, one of their mutual friends.

01:09:02.040 And they just met from there.

01:09:02.600 You said your original parents got divorced when you were four, right?

01:09:05.120 Yeah.

01:09:05.460 How soon after did you meet your stepdad, I guess?

01:09:08.280 Two years.

01:09:08.860 I think a year or two.

01:09:09.720 My mom's, like, a really amazing Christian woman.

01:09:11.840 I love my mom so much.

01:09:12.920 So, she was going on, like, a lot of dates and, like, making sure, like, she found, like, the right one.

01:09:15.900 And then my, they waited, like, 10 or 12 years, I think, specifically to, like, actually get married.

01:09:22.880 Oh, okay.

01:09:23.300 And then they got married on 4th of July, like, two or three years ago.

01:09:25.920 So, like, nice.

01:09:26.780 I know.

01:09:27.160 I love them so much.

01:09:28.520 I have no idea how my parents met.

01:09:32.440 They divorced when I was three years old.

01:09:35.020 But my stepdad and my mom were on a double date with other people.

01:09:40.940 Oh, that's crazy.

01:09:42.100 They worked together.

01:09:43.540 They all worked at the same company.

01:09:45.320 And so, then that's how they ended up meeting.

01:09:48.120 Okay.

01:09:49.420 My parents are divorced, but I believe they met when they were children.

01:09:53.360 Oh.

01:09:54.140 Yeah.

01:09:55.500 My parents still met on a train.

01:09:58.600 They've been married for over 35 years.

01:10:02.660 Nice.

01:10:03.160 Besides hers, everyone else is here, parents separated.

01:10:07.620 Yeah.

01:10:08.400 That's so many.

01:10:09.860 Wow, that's crazy.

01:10:11.180 That's what I get for being a 2000s baby.

01:10:13.080 How about you?

01:10:14.000 My parents were high school sweethearts.

01:10:16.440 Aw.

01:10:16.880 Are they still together?

01:10:18.180 My mom passed away, but my dad is still looking, I guess.

01:10:23.100 Like, single.

01:10:24.280 Yeah, my dad has passed away, too.

01:10:25.980 Yeah.

01:10:26.540 Well.

01:10:28.120 Yeah.

01:10:28.620 Different, but same.

01:10:29.400 Yeah.

01:10:30.080 Okay.

01:10:30.300 Okay, so I actually have a question for you.

01:10:37.640 What's your name again?

01:10:38.600 Mel.

01:10:39.040 Mel.

01:10:40.020 So, you said your parents met as children.

01:10:42.320 Yeah.

01:10:42.760 Did they, like, live around each other?

01:10:44.640 Did their families know each other?

01:10:46.140 Like...

01:10:46.440 I think my dad went to school with my mom's brothers.

01:10:50.500 So, they just kind of, like, knew each other.

01:10:52.180 Oh, okay.

01:10:52.520 So, like, mutual friends.

01:10:53.400 Yeah.

01:10:53.760 I mean...

01:10:54.280 Aw, that's adorable.

01:10:55.680 I'm so sorry.

01:10:56.480 I forgot your name.

01:10:57.640 What was your name again?

01:10:58.580 Polly.

01:10:58.880 Paula.

01:10:59.840 Paula.

01:11:00.480 So, you said that your current husband doesn't really know about your past in between marriages,

01:11:06.880 correct?

01:11:07.980 He has an idea, because one time he signed into my email, which I asked him to, and Google

01:11:16.560 downloaded all my contacts into his phone.

01:11:19.440 Is there any, like...

01:11:20.580 So, he kind of was like, eh, I don't think I want to know about this.

01:11:25.600 Wait, so...

01:11:26.140 Why haven't you told him?

01:11:26.800 Can I ask something?

01:11:27.500 I haven't even told him about it.

01:11:28.160 Yeah, because there's...

01:11:28.800 Why would I?

01:11:29.620 Why would I?

01:11:30.020 Well, so...

01:11:30.320 But if you guys are making the argument that if you have this past, then no man will ever

01:11:35.740 want you.

01:11:36.500 No, I don't believe that.

01:11:37.520 Yeah, but a lot of people...

01:11:38.500 So, that's kind of my proof.

01:11:39.920 Anybody can change.

01:11:41.220 Yeah.

01:11:41.780 So...

01:11:42.300 I mean, I had to change in order to do that.

01:11:45.860 But it's not like...

01:11:46.940 Yeah.

01:11:47.280 Because people can grow.

01:11:48.420 So, I think sometimes it's wrong that people are like, no, if you do this, nobody will

01:11:53.020 ever want you.

01:11:53.900 No, no.

01:11:54.100 I agree.

01:11:54.260 It just makes it worse with the other person.

01:11:56.460 I also don't want to, like, start anything, but, like, he doesn't know anything about your

01:12:00.220 past, and you're saying that people can still, like, change and stuff.

01:12:02.560 Like, the arguments are, like, kind of not...

01:12:04.260 No, but he does.

01:12:05.660 She said he doesn't.

01:12:06.260 Well, it's about the shame that's really getting me.

01:12:09.320 Like, why are you so ashamed of this period in your life?

01:12:14.140 Because it was really wrong, and it hurt my soul.

01:12:17.720 It hurt my...

01:12:18.580 When I looked at myself and said, I want to be a high-quality woman, and I looked at my

01:12:23.920 behavior, I was like, that is not high-quality woman behavior.

01:12:28.320 And so, I was ashamed of behaving like that when I wanted to attract a good man.

01:12:35.240 Okay, so then, just to clarify, you...

01:12:40.560 So, as a high-quality woman, that you are, 100%, and you had to change to be that, but,

01:12:51.460 like, so, were you in just, like, a completely, like, a mental breakdown kind of thing?

01:12:57.440 Okay, so...

01:12:58.840 I was a stay-at-home mom with four kids.

01:13:01.820 My husband walked out, never came back.

01:13:03.880 So, it was just, like, the freedom and, like, the exploration.

01:13:07.200 Right.

01:13:07.420 It was just the, like, I don't know how to cope with this, and I went through a series...

01:13:12.200 It's a coping mechanism.

01:13:13.480 I went through a series of addictions, basically.

01:13:15.960 Yeah, I'm trying to figure it out.

01:13:17.220 So, it was not for happiness.

01:13:18.800 You were not doing it because you were happy doing it.

01:13:21.920 You were not happy, like, enjoying and living like that.

01:13:25.580 I thought I was.

01:13:27.040 But that's not what you wanted, truly.

01:13:29.380 But I thought I was at that time.

01:13:30.860 Well, because it's happiness on a shallow level.

01:13:32.700 It's not a deep connection to it anymore.

01:13:34.220 But so, you had to grow through that.

01:13:35.080 So, you're probably a better person for that.

01:13:37.360 You can probably teach your kids better.

01:13:39.060 Yeah, because mistakes are honestly, mistakes are honestly just, are, like, regrets are honestly

01:13:44.100 just mistakes you haven't learned from.

01:13:45.600 Right, right, right.

01:13:46.300 So, like, if you grow from something, you learn from it, then, like, it's not a regret.

01:13:50.580 It's just something that happened that you learned from.

01:13:52.720 But, like, this is kind of a hot take.

01:13:55.280 But, like, to me, like, the whole rational, like, rationalizing, like, oh, women sleeping

01:14:01.620 with X amount of people if it's a higher number is, like, they're no longer a high-value woman.

01:14:06.500 To me, I just think that that's, like, a stupid cop-out.

01:14:09.900 In my opinion, personally, just because at the end of the day, what makes a high-value

01:14:15.660 person is different for each individual.

01:14:18.940 Yeah, true.

01:14:19.380 Your version of a high-value man could be somebody that makes six figures or makes X amount of

01:14:25.460 money or has certain morals.

01:14:28.120 And then my version of a man could be dead broke, but he loves and cares about me intensively,

01:14:34.360 and that matters more to me.

01:14:35.820 So, each version, just, like, for a woman, and also, another hot take that I know this

01:14:40.280 audience is probably not going to like, but I'm just going to say it, if a man were to

01:14:45.080 be doing what Amber is doing or what you did during between your marriages, they would

01:14:50.740 get dabbed up and a pat on the back, like, hell yeah, homie, you just hooked up with three

01:14:54.500 girls in one day.

01:14:55.320 Yeah.

01:14:55.980 And if a girl does that, they're, like, automatically programmed to feel shameful or slutty or degraded.

01:15:02.740 I don't think anyone should have that.

01:15:04.220 Wait, so.

01:15:04.760 Just let it go.

01:15:06.100 Would you?

01:15:06.560 The thing is, would you guys be opposed, or would you guys feel any sort of way if a

01:15:12.360 man cared about your body count?

01:15:14.540 I guess we'll just go around the table for these questions.

01:15:17.280 We'll start with you.

01:15:18.440 I mean, I don't care.

01:15:19.600 Get closer to the mic.

01:15:21.140 I don't know.

01:15:21.740 I wouldn't care.

01:15:22.400 So, I don't know if a man, they may or may not take it or leave it.

01:15:27.840 I don't care about body count.

01:15:29.600 My body count, I can count on, like, one hand.

01:15:32.320 I guess we'll just go, like, what's everybody's body count?

01:15:35.180 We'll just do that, too.

01:15:36.760 Nope.

01:15:37.580 That's not happening.

01:15:38.440 We'll start with Elle.

01:15:39.340 She's really open and honest.

01:15:42.160 This is true.

01:15:43.120 Because I don't feel shame.

01:15:45.520 My body count is, I never, like, counted it because I'm not just some, like, weirdo that

01:15:51.580 types in my notes every person that I've ever hooked up with.

01:15:54.280 You also have to take into account that I am pansexual, even though I'm in a relationship

01:15:58.300 with a man.

01:15:58.940 That does not make me any less gay.

01:16:02.360 So, you also have to take into account, not dismissing how big the number is, but there's

01:16:07.580 men, women, and in between.

01:16:09.540 So, that obviously is going to increase the number because I'm counting different genres

01:16:15.640 of people that you guys aren't going to count if you're straight.

01:16:17.780 But my body count's probably somewhere from, like, 100 to 150, and I still ended up in

01:16:26.480 a committed, happy, healthy relationship, and my partner is aware of my body count and

01:16:33.020 has never made me feel less than for it at all whatsoever.

01:16:39.100 Did we go around on, did everybody answer the, do you care about body count?

01:16:44.280 What was the original question posed?

01:16:45.920 We didn't answer.

01:16:46.720 There was only two people I answered.

01:16:48.040 Why did, huh?

01:16:48.940 Then she just, she just singled me out to ask him about body count.

01:16:51.660 I don't know why.

01:16:51.940 Okay.

01:16:53.400 Do you object to men caring about a woman's body count?

01:16:55.980 Go ahead.

01:16:57.600 Into the mic, please.

01:16:58.680 If a man cares that much, then it's not worth my time.

01:17:01.520 I don't know.

01:17:02.860 Right.

01:17:03.240 You wouldn't date him, but you, so you, you, is that a yes?

01:17:06.440 You object?

01:17:08.080 Yeah, sure.

01:17:08.800 To men caring about body count?

01:17:10.700 Okay.

01:17:11.280 Could you define cared in what way?

01:17:13.480 You want me to define care?

01:17:14.500 Like, they wouldn't, like they wouldn't date you.

01:17:16.260 Are they fucking trolled tonight?

01:17:17.600 What the fuck?

01:17:18.140 You want me to define the word care for you?

01:17:19.860 No, no, but it's like, would they be concerned?

01:17:21.860 Would they be angry?

01:17:22.820 Or would they just like, know and just like care about it?

01:17:28.460 Like, I don't know.

01:17:29.120 Like, there's different levels of, of caring about a body count.

01:17:32.800 Like, yeah.

01:17:33.220 Like, they could completely stop talking to you because of it.

01:17:35.820 Or they can just.

01:17:36.660 Okay.

01:17:36.760 They would not date a girl because of her high body count.

01:17:38.800 Okay.

01:17:39.160 Yeah.

01:17:39.420 Okay.

01:17:39.880 Thank you.

01:17:40.620 That's very clear.

01:17:41.740 I appreciate that.

01:17:45.320 Yeah.

01:17:45.800 I don't care about body count.

01:17:47.000 I don't give a fuck about body count.

01:17:49.160 And.

01:17:49.720 Okay.

01:17:49.960 That's not the question.

01:17:50.760 The question is, do you object to men who care about body count?

01:17:57.520 Yeah.

01:17:57.920 Yeah, sure.

01:17:58.920 Yeah.

01:17:59.400 She says, yeah.

01:17:59.980 Yeah.

01:18:00.180 I do not object to men who care about the body count on that level.

01:18:05.920 Okay.

01:18:06.660 I think that everyone has the right to care about different things, whether they want to

01:18:13.740 be with somebody.

01:18:14.240 So, yes, I wouldn't care about body count, but no, I'm not going to argue with somebody

01:18:22.120 if they do care about that and my body count is an issue, then that's just not my person

01:18:25.680 and that's totally 100% fine.

01:18:27.260 I don't object.

01:18:30.440 I think if a guy is like, no, your body count's too high and just like, that's also kind of

01:18:34.240 what we've been talking about earlier, like, oh, like your past, like, I don't, like, I

01:18:37.500 would respect a man.

01:18:38.320 It's like, oh, I don't want to be with a woman who's been with a lot of men in the past because

01:18:41.620 she obviously has like, actually, I'm not going to say that because I am not in that

01:18:45.560 position.

01:18:46.220 So, no, I would not object.

01:18:47.700 Yeah.

01:18:48.380 No, they have a right to want a certain type and if that's their type, then that's their

01:18:56.420 type.

01:18:56.840 And then also, talking about body count to someone you care about and love is just wrong.

01:19:06.840 It's wrong.

01:19:07.540 Why?

01:19:07.920 What do you mean?

01:19:08.740 Why?

01:19:09.000 Like, if my husband was like, how many, I'd be like, feel so insulted.

01:19:14.760 Like, you married me because you love me.

01:19:17.420 But he's just trying to cast.

01:19:17.820 Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:19:19.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:19:19.460 Earlier in the conversation, you said if a man didn't want to, you said that, are you guys

01:19:24.540 laughing?

01:19:25.040 What, is there an issue here?

01:19:27.000 No, there's no issue.

01:19:27.900 Yeah.

01:19:28.200 Okay.

01:19:29.180 So, earlier in the conversation, you said, yo, I don't need the fucking attitude.

01:19:33.640 What?

01:19:34.100 She didn't say anything.

01:19:34.840 I didn't say anything.

01:19:36.940 I didn't say anything.

01:19:38.080 Yeah.

01:19:38.100 You know, their communication can be done subtextually.

01:19:41.260 Okay.

01:19:41.460 So, like, you doing a little, like, look at her, like, almost as if you're mocking me.

01:19:45.760 I'm not.

01:19:46.500 I wasn't.

01:19:47.300 Yeah.

01:19:47.480 Okay.

01:19:47.900 So, anyways, earlier in the conversation, you were saying that you would call off the

01:19:53.980 engagement if the man was not willing to share his checking account with you.

01:19:59.240 So, that would mean if he was unwilling to share, essentially, his financial status with

01:20:03.760 you.

01:20:04.660 So, how, why not just, can I just put the argument back on you and say, well, that's not really

01:20:11.380 any of your business to know his financial situation.

01:20:14.940 That when you're in a family and you're a couple, you're one.

01:20:20.400 And so, if you don't want to be one.

01:20:21.700 Now, if my husband came to me and said, I want to know, I would feel very uncomfortable

01:20:26.260 about it.

01:20:27.160 And I would tell him because I love him and we've been together for 10 years.

01:20:30.940 And I would admit where it was.

01:20:33.920 But I've never, he's never said that to me.

01:20:36.900 He's never been worried about that.

01:20:39.740 But, and can you just restate?

01:20:41.520 So, you said that it would indicate that he, restate what your position was on

01:20:48.020 that body count.

01:20:48.740 It would show that they don't love you.

01:20:50.080 I forgot.

01:20:50.560 Exactly.

01:20:51.180 I would think it would be kind of rude.

01:20:53.340 Like, if you love the person, you love them for where they're at right now, regardless

01:20:57.640 of their past.

01:21:00.840 Okay.

01:21:01.280 So, why would he care right now?

01:21:04.920 Maybe he's just curious and just like, I just want to know.

01:21:07.580 Yeah.

01:21:07.740 Like, the type of woman that he was.

01:21:08.300 And I would hate to have to say that because to me, it's embarrassing and I don't like that

01:21:13.260 at all.

01:21:13.880 Well, I wonder in a scenario where you were dating somebody and what was the engagement

01:21:20.200 question here?

01:21:21.160 It was if you were engaged and they made $200,000.

01:21:25.060 And they didn't want to share their...

01:21:26.580 They didn't want to have a joint checking account.

01:21:29.580 And you're engaged.

01:21:30.200 How is that relevant to them?

01:21:32.940 Well, it's relevant in that if you were engaged to a woman and she didn't want to reveal her

01:21:38.060 body count because her body count could reveal a certain number that you would not be comfortable

01:21:43.740 following through with the engagement, I think it's totally relevant.

01:21:48.900 Well, I think I don't agree with you on that because, first of all, once you're already engaged,

01:21:54.480 you kind of love each other in a way, right?

01:21:56.580 And then the money issue, everybody has different family situations and women and a man sometimes

01:22:02.580 have different roles.

01:22:04.240 And if a man has, you know, specific things they're asking of a woman, then everybody...

01:22:10.000 I'm just saying that it's not like so black and white.

01:22:11.500 Okay, so here's the scenario.

01:22:12.960 You're engaged to a woman, but then you find out, like, a month before the marriage that

01:22:20.160 she has a body count of 50.

01:22:23.900 I think that would be perfectly acceptable pretext if the man had an issue with it to call off

01:22:27.780 the engagement.

01:22:28.240 Yeah, and I think everybody...

01:22:30.240 Two years, let's just say two years.

01:22:31.700 Let me say something.

01:22:32.440 I think you have a choice.

01:22:33.740 You either decide past is in the past and then you move forward and then that would have

01:22:38.160 no relevance into the relationship for the future issues.

01:22:42.700 You can't, like, fault someone for that if you choose to decide that past is in the past

01:22:47.580 and then you accept person for what they are now because people can grow and change and

01:22:51.860 whatever.

01:22:52.560 But it's up to you.

01:22:53.480 You can make a choice or you can decide not to.

01:22:55.340 So I think, you know, people have free will to decide that.

01:22:59.240 Plus, like, your financial state, when you're engaged, that has room to change.

01:23:04.640 It can fluctuate.

01:23:05.440 You can lose your job and have no money now.

01:23:07.860 When you were originally engaged or married, you were making six figures or plus or 200K,

01:23:13.800 whatever the case may be, but your body count is never going to change unless you cheat, which

01:23:19.440 hopefully you don't do that in a marriage or an engagement.

01:23:23.400 Or in a relationship anymore.

01:23:24.440 I mean, it's good context to know your partner's history just so that you know who you're with.

01:23:30.060 But I don't think in any way you should, like, let that deter you if you think that it, as

01:23:35.220 long as they're not, like, a cheater.

01:23:36.440 Like, I feel like that's more of, to me, I would rather know has this man or woman or

01:23:41.820 person cheated on their spouse more so than I would be concerned about what they did when

01:23:47.140 they were single.

01:23:47.760 If you're single and you're having sex with as many people as you want to have sex with,

01:23:51.580 consenting adults, that's totally reasonable and fine.

01:23:54.200 If you're a cheater in your past relationships, that's more of a red flag to me than if you

01:23:59.000 were single and slept with a girl at the bar.

01:24:00.980 And by the way, my second husband made a third of what my first husband made.

01:24:05.980 And he's doubled his income since we've been together.

01:24:10.940 Exactly.

01:24:11.440 That's always the same with my stepdad.

01:24:13.360 My stepdad broke his neck in Hollywood and then moved up.

01:24:15.780 And then now he's, like, a successful painter with my mom.

01:24:17.960 So, like, it all just depends.

01:24:19.680 Point being that I love my husband for my husband.

01:24:22.660 It was never about anything else.

01:24:25.680 Okay.

01:24:25.960 So, what was your original comment that you made?

01:24:29.480 About?

01:24:30.140 You said, if my husband came to me and asked me.

01:24:33.740 I would tell him I'd be embarrassed and ashamed and I would actually apologize because I feel

01:24:40.240 terrible about it.

01:24:41.220 It was a very dark time in my life.

01:24:44.580 But he's never asked me.

01:24:46.440 But you said it would be what?

01:24:49.440 Well, I think, I don't know.

01:24:52.340 I just think asking people their body count is just not polite.

01:24:55.960 Not polite.

01:24:56.520 Like, it's just, in general, not polite.

01:24:58.620 Okay.

01:24:59.520 But if he...

01:25:00.280 At any point in the relationship?

01:25:02.020 I mean, well, if that matters to you, it should come out at the very beginning.

01:25:07.500 If that is what's important to you, then ask it.

01:25:10.340 What if it doesn't, though?

01:25:11.860 Well, then it's not that important.

01:25:14.280 Well, maybe, though, you have a...

01:25:17.700 It doesn't occur to you to ask.

01:25:19.980 Because perhaps you've made some assumptions because the woman's been carrying herself in a

01:25:24.320 way that would maybe indicate that she doesn't have a high body count, but maybe she does.

01:25:30.240 But I think he already has a clue because he signed into my email account and all my contacts

01:25:36.520 downloaded into his phone.

01:25:39.060 And he looked at him and saw...

01:25:40.440 Wait, wait, wait.

01:25:40.860 I'm not talking...

01:25:41.400 I'm talking in generalities here.

01:25:42.600 I'm not talking about your specific situation.

01:25:45.580 Yeah.

01:25:45.780 In general, I think if that is important to you, then you better ask that at the get-go.

01:25:51.300 So it would be...

01:25:52.240 It would not be rude to ask it on the first date, then?

01:25:54.360 No.

01:25:55.300 Okay.

01:25:55.760 If that's what's important to you, because then you know who you're about to be with.

01:26:00.080 Okay.

01:26:00.560 On both sides.

01:26:01.600 Because I've heard women say the exact opposite.

01:26:03.700 They say that it would be kind of weird and rude to ask that on the first date.

01:26:07.440 It would be weird.

01:26:08.100 Well, it would be weird and rude, but if that's important to the guy, then he better get it

01:26:11.800 out in the open right away so that we can just either get out of here and be done with

01:26:17.980 it or let's work through this.

01:26:19.840 It's all about transparency.

01:26:21.600 And then so...

01:26:22.880 But it would be rude later down the road in the relationship.

01:26:26.160 Maybe he never thought to ask.

01:26:27.560 Once you start building a relationship, well, and like I said, you need to get it out there.

01:26:31.780 Like when I was dating, I dated divorced guys.

01:26:34.560 I would flat out ask them on the first date, what is your part in your divorce?

01:26:39.840 What is your what in the divorce?

01:26:40.880 Your part.

01:26:41.880 Like...

01:26:42.200 Oh, right.

01:26:42.720 Like...

01:26:43.040 And my daughters are like, you were not that blunt.

01:26:46.140 I said, oh, yes, I was.

01:26:47.280 Because if they can't handle that, they're not going to handle anything else about me.

01:26:51.700 Also, I think in reality, if you're really in love with somebody, you will work through

01:26:56.580 all the issues.

01:26:57.580 I don't think it's reality saying, oh, I'm engaged to this person because I love them.

01:27:01.160 And then all of a sudden, this one new thing comes out.

01:27:04.560 I think it's not realistic that people are just going to call it off so fast.

01:27:09.420 You know?

01:27:10.100 I would have no objections if it was even the wedding day.

01:27:13.060 If it was even the wedding day, the man found out that, you know, she had a massive body count.

01:27:17.740 What's a massive body count?

01:27:18.840 Just curiosity.

01:27:19.500 I mean, it depends on age.

01:27:21.620 It depends on the individual.

01:27:23.400 But I think once you start getting, I think a lot of men would say over 10 is getting

01:27:30.420 into high body count territory range.

01:27:32.000 I would agree with that.

01:27:32.500 Over 10.

01:27:33.060 I would agree.

01:27:33.820 Over 20, I think there's, without a doubt, that would most people, I'd say the vast majority

01:27:38.800 of men would agree.

01:27:39.520 Over 20 certainly would be high body count.

01:27:42.040 I would agree with that.

01:27:42.700 But your answer, I guess we were going around on, would you object to a man caring about

01:27:48.440 a woman's body count to the point that he would date or not date her because of it?

01:27:53.020 No, I wouldn't object to that.

01:27:54.360 Wouldn't object?

01:27:54.980 No.

01:27:55.540 No.

01:27:56.120 No objections.

01:27:57.080 Okay.

01:27:57.280 Well, for those of you who said that body count doesn't matter or you do perhaps object

01:28:05.120 to a man caring about it, we'll just go around.

01:28:07.960 What's everybody's body count?

01:28:09.000 We heard from Elle.

01:28:09.800 You said it was around 150 to 200.

01:28:12.480 Yeah, around 100 to 150.

01:28:14.420 Yeah.

01:28:14.520 Okay.

01:28:14.680 We'll start with you, then go around this way.

01:28:16.200 Go ahead.

01:28:16.680 I couldn't tell you.

01:28:17.340 Probably 100 or something.

01:28:18.640 Please, into the mic.

01:28:20.760 Probably like, I'd say 100.

01:28:24.020 Okay.

01:28:24.340 Their Alamed Meatball donated $200.

01:28:29.600 Brian is writing every way here.

01:28:32.140 Yo, thank you, bro.

01:28:32.980 Dude, I haven't seen you in a while, son.

01:28:34.860 He's a brave and a decent man.

01:28:36.480 He's a pioneer.

01:28:37.680 Yo, Mr. Meatball, good to see you in the chat, man.

01:28:39.400 Thank you so much.

01:28:40.820 Appreciate it, bro.

01:28:41.960 Thank you.

01:28:42.280 Thank you.

01:28:42.560 Mr. Meatball.

01:28:43.700 What kind of meatballs?

01:28:44.840 Turkey meatballs?

01:28:46.360 What kind?

01:28:47.060 Okay.

01:28:47.480 All right.

01:28:47.820 Thank you, man.

01:28:48.220 Appreciate it.

01:28:49.920 In the hundreds, okay.

01:28:51.100 What about you?

01:28:51.820 Less than five.

01:28:52.960 Okay.

01:28:53.220 So, I've counted since the last time, and it's nine.

01:28:57.020 Okay.

01:28:58.360 Well, you answered, right?

01:28:59.740 Yeah.

01:29:00.000 150 to 200?

01:29:01.460 100 to 150.

01:29:02.680 Oh, okay.

01:29:03.120 All right.

01:29:03.320 Not that that extra 50 really matters.

01:29:05.220 I mean, we're already in the hole.

01:29:06.760 Sure.

01:29:07.720 All right.

01:29:08.240 What about you?

01:29:08.860 Less than five.

01:29:10.280 Okay.

01:29:10.860 Yeah.

01:29:11.900 Well, in your pre-show notes, I think you provided it.

01:29:14.560 You said you were previously a sex addict with a bot.

01:29:19.880 Mm-hmm.

01:29:20.440 You did provide it in the notes, I think.

01:29:23.260 Mm-hmm.

01:29:24.220 I did.

01:29:24.240 You want me to say it?

01:29:25.060 I can say it.

01:29:25.820 I'll say it.

01:29:26.400 I can say it.

01:29:26.820 I can say it.

01:29:26.840 You could say it to them.

01:29:28.020 I just wouldn't really want it.

01:29:30.000 Whoops.

01:29:30.340 Sorry.

01:29:30.640 That was my bad.

01:29:31.580 Okay.

01:29:32.240 You wouldn't.

01:29:32.580 I really don't want it out there, but.

01:29:35.520 But, okay.

01:29:36.740 You.

01:29:37.100 It's fine, Brian.

01:29:39.820 I don't care.

01:29:40.740 This is kind of.

01:29:41.480 This was pre-show.

01:29:42.460 You provided this in the pre-show notes.

01:29:44.280 Kind of my mea copa anyways to kind of just stop being ashamed of what I did and kind

01:29:48.980 of letting it go.

01:29:49.860 Well, I'll let you say it.

01:29:51.000 So it.

01:29:51.580 I'll let you say it then.

01:29:52.320 It's over 50.

01:29:53.360 Okay.

01:29:54.240 That's fine.

01:29:54.700 Cool.

01:29:55.520 And you did say you were previously a sex addict, correct?

01:29:58.820 Okay.

01:29:59.700 All right.

01:30:00.200 What about you?

01:30:00.940 One.

01:30:01.660 One?

01:30:02.100 Okay.

01:30:03.340 Less than five.

01:30:04.980 All right.

01:30:05.580 Less than five.

01:30:06.160 Cool.

01:30:07.100 All right.

01:30:09.500 Less than five.

01:30:10.320 Cool.

01:30:11.520 We did parents meet, right?

01:30:12.900 We got everyone's on that.

01:30:14.060 Yes.

01:30:14.500 Parents meet.

01:30:16.220 Let me mark that out.

01:30:18.580 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

01:30:20.440 Drops a follow.

01:30:20.940 Drops a prime sub if you have one.

01:30:22.300 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

01:30:25.100 Drops a follow.

01:30:25.920 And a prime sub if you have one.

01:30:27.940 Guys, it's been.

01:30:31.960 I can't see it, but it's been a while since.

01:30:34.040 23 minutes since we had a prime.

01:30:36.620 I think it's bugged, boys.

01:30:38.400 Can you guys just test it out?

01:30:40.320 See if I think it's bugged on Twitch.

01:30:43.060 I don't know.

01:30:43.400 The prime subs aren't working.

01:30:44.580 I'm getting reports that it's just bugged.

01:30:47.120 So drop the prime sub.

01:30:48.280 We're going to be doing a Twitch stream tomorrow.

01:30:52.060 So be sure.

01:30:52.720 Twitch exclusive stream tomorrow.

01:30:53.960 Be sure to check that out.

01:30:56.720 Okay.

01:30:57.220 I'm going to get into my pre-show notes here now.

01:30:59.560 Actually, no.

01:31:00.040 Let's do some reacts, Nick.

01:31:02.000 What's the first thing we have to react to?

01:31:03.860 Let's do that airport screaming one.

01:31:06.500 Oh, I've seen this.

01:31:07.580 We should have done.

01:31:10.480 What's it called?

01:31:11.120 We should have done it last show, but it's whatever.

01:31:14.100 All right.

01:31:14.520 This has gone viral the past few days.

01:31:16.360 I've seen this.

01:31:18.820 Hold on.

01:31:19.400 They're almed meatball donated $200.

01:31:23.020 Green is rough.

01:31:25.780 Who's green?

01:31:26.880 Oh.

01:31:27.660 Rough.

01:31:28.480 Do you want to respond?

01:31:29.820 What does it do?

01:31:31.140 Rough?

01:31:32.120 Rough?

01:31:32.880 Rough is what?

01:31:33.920 They're barking at you.

01:31:34.840 Just take it like that.

01:31:35.660 Just take it as in he's barking at you like a dog.

01:31:37.740 All right.

01:31:38.720 All right.

01:31:39.300 Because he probably is because she looks like Drew Barrymore.

01:31:40.640 Thank you, Mr. Meepal.

01:31:41.420 Appreciate it.

01:31:41.900 Oh, yeah.

01:31:42.540 She looks like Drew Barrymore, so shut the fuck up.

01:31:44.640 Your mom likes it rough.

01:31:47.660 Say that.

01:31:49.180 Boom.

01:31:49.540 Roasted.

01:31:51.200 Pow.

01:31:51.700 Roasted.

01:31:52.060 Mr. Meepal, you got roasted.

01:31:54.300 Are you going to take this disrespect?

01:31:56.960 Oh, no.

01:31:57.460 Are you going to stand for this disrespect?

01:31:59.920 He's on the other side.

01:32:01.360 I'm already set up with the tattoos.

01:32:02.600 He's about to donate another $200 just to roast us back.

01:32:05.400 You're welcome.

01:32:06.640 All right.

01:32:06.840 What are you drinking, if you mind me asking?

01:32:08.840 What is that?

01:32:10.140 Green tea?

01:32:11.080 Green tea.

01:32:11.980 It's Everclear.

01:32:16.920 After that last question.

01:32:19.200 Everclear and honey.

01:32:20.100 Green tea and a sprinkle of lemon.

01:32:23.680 All right.

01:32:25.460 At least you're honest.

01:32:26.880 Go ahead, Nick.

01:32:27.740 Yeah.

01:32:28.420 Oh, God.

01:32:29.240 Oh, yeah.

01:32:30.400 Oh, my gosh.

01:32:32.200 Hold on.

01:32:33.400 Hold on.

01:32:33.740 Hold on.

01:32:33.900 Hold on.

01:32:34.380 Like in the storm.

01:32:37.240 Whatever you...

01:32:38.160 This is below the threshold, but I don't like messages coming up while we're doing videos.

01:32:43.740 Keep up the good work.

01:32:44.880 Perfect posture.

01:32:46.140 Emporium.

01:32:47.780 Send me one of everything.

01:32:49.380 That sounds fair.

01:32:50.340 Whatever.

01:32:51.380 Send me one of everything.

01:32:52.540 Let him try it all.

01:32:54.040 Yeah.

01:32:54.300 Okay.

01:32:54.580 Go ahead.

01:32:56.140 Start from the beginning.

01:32:59.320 Hmm?

01:33:00.580 It's funny.

01:33:01.740 It's funny.

01:33:02.920 I hate you.

01:33:04.900 Is the audio maxed?

01:33:06.880 Bro, you're a weird bitch, too.

01:33:08.680 Like, it's not funny.

01:33:10.780 She looks like my...

01:33:12.360 Bro, those beeps are way louder.

01:33:22.320 So...

01:33:22.760 I hate you.

01:33:23.680 You're a f***ing loser.

01:33:25.240 You're a loser!

01:33:27.480 Holy shit.

01:33:28.420 So, I need to do an exorcism on this woman.

01:33:31.080 Poor dude.

01:33:32.080 I don't know.

01:33:32.720 You know that wasn't the first time that's happened, also.

01:33:35.140 Based off of his reaction.

01:33:36.760 Absolutely.

01:33:37.540 Wait, who said something about the exorcism?

01:33:40.100 What did you say?

01:33:41.220 Oh, I just said, she sounds like she needs an exorcism.

01:33:44.280 Oh, my gosh.

01:33:44.940 Oh, she needs an exorcism.

01:33:46.200 Yeah.

01:33:46.600 She needs an exorcism.

01:33:47.600 The emphasis on the loser was crazy.

01:33:51.200 And that is a broken man from then.

01:33:53.800 Yeah, so...

01:33:54.440 But he chose to be with her.

01:33:56.200 He chose to be with her.

01:33:57.180 It's his fault, in a way.

01:33:58.400 Well, yeah, you know, like, women who get beat, they choose to be with the abuser.

01:34:02.940 They choose to...

01:34:03.820 But sometimes...

01:34:05.200 It's called beat-in-wise syndrome.

01:34:06.080 I agree to your point.

01:34:07.700 Sometimes a woman feels too weak to leave because the abuser made her feel that way.

01:34:12.880 Yeah.

01:34:13.040 Wait, so...

01:34:13.960 And beauty...

01:34:14.500 When a man's being abused, it's the man's fault.

01:34:17.100 And when a woman's being abused, it's also the man's fault.

01:34:19.460 No, no, no, no, no.

01:34:20.460 Did not say it like that.

01:34:21.600 If anyone's being abused, it's not their fault.

01:34:24.100 Unless they stay and they keep having it repeatedly happen to them, then they should know to get out.

01:34:28.040 But sometimes, okay, sometimes if a woman...

01:34:30.100 Okay, that situation, I'll react to that first.

01:34:34.020 Obviously, the girl is not right to do that, right?

01:34:37.520 No one's right to do that.

01:34:38.580 No, nobody should ever do that, period.

01:34:42.160 But we don't know the context.

01:34:44.400 We also don't know their history.

01:34:47.620 I can say that he is kind of used to seeing that.

01:34:51.100 Now, maybe he loves her enough that he thinks he can fix her in a way.

01:34:54.680 Then maybe he chooses to be with that, that she provides something else for him.

01:35:00.100 Why isn't there just an immediate, like, disavowing of her dog shit behavior?

01:35:05.300 Let me finish my point.

01:35:08.180 Let me finish my point.

01:35:09.800 Your immediate jump was to how can we shift some of the blame onto the man

01:35:15.960 instead of just an immediate disavowment of she's an abusive person, he should leave her.

01:35:22.040 Like, here's how she's back.

01:35:22.720 Well, that's a given.

01:35:23.420 That's a given.

01:35:23.960 That's a given.

01:35:25.340 Okay.

01:35:25.800 I do have that reaction right away.

01:35:27.420 I'm not sure if we would jump to, you would make those same, if it was a man abusing a woman,

01:35:33.320 if you would jump to immediately just saying, here's how the man's kind of fucking up.

01:35:39.360 I agree with that.

01:35:40.500 I think, you know, sometimes a woman and a man, right, if it's a relationship where the woman,

01:35:48.660 I mean, most cases could be a bit weaker than a man.

01:35:53.440 I mean, it depends on the concept.

01:35:54.880 They're having a verbal.

01:35:55.880 I don't think a woman should ever speak to a man like that.

01:35:58.440 Yeah, I don't think so.

01:35:58.880 I don't think a man should ever speak to a woman like that.

01:36:00.100 I don't think you should ever put yourself in that kind of position where you're being verbally abused like that.

01:36:05.160 You should never put yourself in that.

01:36:06.160 Yeah, so he has a choice to just completely just not be with her.

01:36:10.300 It's also, she's doing that to him.

01:36:12.600 Yeah.

01:36:12.780 He's sitting there.

01:36:13.440 And he can just walk away.

01:36:14.940 Not him in the middle of an airport.

01:36:16.820 I know.

01:36:17.360 It's completely wrong.

01:36:17.860 You can tell by his, like, demeanor in the video that this is not, like, a first-time thing.

01:36:23.300 This has happened often, just because of his lack of a reaction is a reaction in itself.

01:36:28.060 Yeah.

01:36:28.560 And seeing, like, how he is just completely numb to the way that she's, like, screaming and in full, like, terror mode

01:36:36.100 just kind of shows that this is probably something that happens.

01:36:39.140 He looks like he's dissociated.

01:36:40.660 It's a bullet donated $200.

01:36:43.380 Green, if your high-quality husband knew your body count early on, would he still be with you today?

01:36:49.880 If so, why am it your past sins from someone you respect and love?

01:36:56.440 It never came up.

01:36:58.160 I didn't, it just never came up.

01:37:00.240 And like I said, I think he had an idea, but I do not think he would have broken up with me if he had known early on.

01:37:10.660 All right, AXO Bullet, thank you for the TTS.

01:37:13.880 What I do find interesting about this clip is that I'm pretty sure if it was the reverse, if it was a dude freaking out on a woman like that,

01:37:22.580 like, the actual people in that clip, in the airport, hearing it in earshot, there would be men and women trying to intervene on behalf of that woman.

01:37:32.440 But like, there's nobody like screaming.

01:37:35.060 And she's even attacking other people.

01:37:36.960 Yeah, didn't somebody try to intervene?

01:37:38.700 And that's why she like, looked back towards the camera and said like, you're a bitch too, shut the fuck up.

01:37:43.760 But imagine if it was a man screaming at a woman.

01:37:45.960 You know that there'd be other women there screaming at the man saying, don't do this, get away from her.

01:37:50.020 And the security.

01:37:50.620 They'd be like defending her.

01:37:51.440 I feel like that should be.

01:37:51.780 There'd be men too.

01:37:52.620 There'd be men too.

01:37:53.080 There'd be everyone.

01:37:54.500 They'll call security anyway.

01:37:55.280 There's a man being screamed at because men are supposed to be more masculine, stronger than women.

01:37:58.740 Yeah, it's just society how it's...

01:37:59.920 Which is not okay.

01:38:01.240 It's not okay, but it's just the reality we live in.

01:38:03.400 You guys are like, what's the word?

01:38:06.620 You guys are just making it normal.

01:38:08.140 That's not normal.

01:38:08.740 No, no, no, no, no.

01:38:09.080 I'm not making...

01:38:09.940 No, not at all.

01:38:11.280 Not at all.

01:38:11.640 That's what it kind of sounds like.

01:38:12.800 No.

01:38:13.380 I totally disagree with all of that.

01:38:15.760 I'm just saying we should look into the context of things.

01:38:19.020 I never see things black and white.

01:38:20.960 Well, yeah, because they're not.

01:38:21.980 There's always nuance.

01:38:22.580 So, of course, it's going to be a reality that if a man screams at a woman, everybody probably is going to defend just because the reality we live in, women are sometimes perceived weaker in a relationship as men.

01:38:34.460 But I'm not saying...

01:38:35.060 I'm not condoning it.

01:38:36.060 I'm just saying it's reality.

01:38:37.680 But it's all about a power imbalance.

01:38:39.760 And obviously, in that situation, the man looked like he was dissociating.

01:38:44.920 Yeah, so let's say the woman was dissociating.

01:38:47.000 Yeah, which is not okay.

01:38:48.980 Neither of those situations are okay.

01:38:50.880 What is the power imbalance?

01:38:52.920 Well, it's like the abuser versus the abused.

01:38:56.500 Like, the abused usually feels trapped and, like, kind of weaker regardless of gender.

01:39:03.020 It can be from both sides.

01:39:04.360 Yeah.

01:39:04.860 My question would be why does he feel like he has to take that?

01:39:09.300 Why does he put himself in this situation?

01:39:11.200 Because when people are trapped, they are just trapped because it's the same with women.

01:39:16.560 No, I agree with you.

01:39:17.980 I totally agree with you.

01:39:18.980 But it's not about...

01:39:20.540 The whole point of asking someone who is staying in an abusive relationship, why are you staying?

01:39:25.300 Like, that's overall a ridiculous question because they are trapped.

01:39:29.080 You can read.

01:39:30.840 But it's not everybody is that strong.

01:39:34.280 It's not, but also, you know, it's just, I feel, I've never been in this kind of situation.

01:39:37.920 Exactly.

01:39:38.700 But I'm allowed to have my own opinion.

01:39:41.000 Yeah, no, you are.

01:39:41.880 Because I feel like, from what I've heard from some of my friends, they're trapped because they feel trapped because they feel like they don't deserve more than what they're getting.

01:39:50.240 You don't deserve to be screamed at.

01:39:51.500 You don't deserve to be abused.

01:39:52.580 You don't deserve to be any of that.

01:39:53.720 You deserve to have someone who loves you and who wants to treat you like that.

01:39:56.700 In abusive relationships, what happens is the person is broken down to a point that they believe this is what they deserve.

01:40:05.340 This is the only person who's going to love them.

01:40:07.440 And it's the best that they can get.

01:40:09.080 And unfortunately, our societal norm has become that men don't want to fight back.

01:40:15.620 Like, I watched a video of a guy in an Uber.

01:40:19.300 He was being choked by a woman from behind.

01:40:22.600 And instead of fighting back, he holds his hands up and is like, I'm not going to touch her.

01:40:27.060 I'm not going to touch her.

01:40:27.900 Why is he afraid to touch her?

01:40:28.740 Because he's like, if I touch her, I'm going to go to jail.

01:40:31.360 Exactly.

01:40:32.060 And that's not okay.

01:40:33.040 It's not okay.

01:40:33.780 That's not okay.

01:40:34.580 And we, as a society, have now put that on men that they can't fight back.

01:40:40.500 And they should absolutely 100% be able to fight back.

01:40:43.140 They should defend themselves.

01:40:44.560 Defend themselves.

01:40:45.380 Yeah.

01:40:45.880 And there's a way to defend yourself without, like, bull-faced ass just punching a woman in the face.

01:40:51.300 Oh, yes.

01:40:51.760 There's a way to defend yourself in the means of if somebody's choking you, you have every right and then some to restrict them from being able to do so.

01:41:01.140 Whether that mean physically pulling them off of you or physically putting their hands behind their back, restraining them in some type of way.

01:41:08.580 But when it comes to abuse in general, there's a thing called beat and wife syndrome.

01:41:12.980 This is a real thing.

01:41:15.680 And it's, like, how she was saying, there's, like, a, you know, people are, you're in a relationship where you're not only being controlled, but you're also being diminished.

01:41:26.280 And your feelings and everything like that, it's usually from a narcissistic personality that has those types of abusive natures.

01:41:34.080 And as somebody that has been in an abusive relationship in the past, multiple different kinds, actually, I was in a very dark place.

01:41:41.140 And I was allowing people to treat me at a lower standard than what I would normally do.

01:41:45.020 And those things, like, they purposefully make you feel as if you're singled out and don't have anyone.

01:41:50.120 Ulysses, the pagan donated $200.

01:41:53.480 Everything Red said next to Brain explaining the guy's motives in the video for allowing the abuse.

01:41:58.680 If you would have switched out her words with woman, you would have be canceled.

01:42:02.060 You reverse bigot.

01:42:04.080 I agree.

01:42:07.380 Yeah, that's true.

01:42:08.160 I think he's talking to you.

01:42:09.800 I know, I know.

01:42:10.740 I agree with him.

01:42:12.140 I think people are misunderstanding what I'm saying.

01:42:13.840 Thank you, the pagan.

01:42:14.540 Appreciate it.

01:42:15.880 All right.

01:42:17.080 I am going to actually move on to the next thing.

01:42:21.000 So, Nick, can you pull, what's the next thing?

01:42:22.320 There's a Twitter.

01:42:24.780 There's a Twitter thing that's.

01:42:26.840 Which one?

01:42:27.300 The first one?

01:42:27.940 And the second one?

01:42:28.580 The first one's your tweet.

01:42:30.080 The second one, not my tweet.

01:42:32.660 Some girl talking about Hinge or something.

01:42:39.960 Amber, how'd they get this clip of you?

01:42:41.640 Okay, go ahead.

01:42:42.300 I'm just kidding.

01:42:42.520 Um, I just got this notification on Hinge.

01:42:45.920 Apparently now they have set a limit for you to send more likes.

01:42:49.660 Not that I send fucking likes.

01:42:51.760 Apparently now when eight or more people are waiting for you to reply, you are not allowed

01:42:55.100 to fucking send likes.

01:42:56.440 And when you click the little info button, this is what it tells you.

01:42:59.040 Wow.

01:42:59.500 This is.

01:42:59.780 They just keep making the user experience even fucking worse.

01:43:04.520 But no, it'll help you because then you won't be burnt out.

01:43:07.120 Shut up.

01:43:08.300 This app is already a fucking hellscape.

01:43:10.860 I literally got back on because I was fucking bored and it's like hot girl summer, but this

01:43:15.500 sucks.

01:43:16.340 Like, oh my God.

01:43:18.220 It's so bad out here, guys.

01:43:19.860 Okay, so this is a woman complaining that she can't match with more men because I guess

01:43:26.800 apparently I'm not on dating apps.

01:43:28.740 I'm not on Hinge, but apparently it used to be you could just like match with people kind

01:43:34.080 of indefinitely, sort of.

01:43:35.560 It still is.

01:43:36.860 It still is.

01:43:37.640 There's not like a, they haven't limited it.

01:43:40.140 So not like what?

01:43:40.800 I think you also have premium.

01:43:42.300 I think you also have like a, you put money towards it.

01:43:44.640 So you might, that might be why yours is different from a regular account.

01:43:47.480 Yeah, if you just have the free account, I think maybe it limits.

01:43:49.980 If you're like buying boosts and stuff like that, which I know you do, then it's probably

01:43:54.400 different for just a regular user that doesn't buy boosts or anything like that.

01:43:58.820 Right.

01:43:59.820 Which I don't understand why she's even getting mad about.

01:44:03.220 Like, if you don't want to talk to those eight guys, just un-match with them, like delete

01:44:07.760 and match with more.

01:44:08.660 She wants more options.

01:44:10.040 She needs a thousand guys.

01:44:11.820 She needs to talk to a thousand men.

01:44:13.540 Then you better throw that $13.99 at Hinge.

01:44:15.300 You better throw that $13.99 at Hinge and get yourself some roses.

01:44:18.180 What are we doing here?

01:44:19.120 Brokey.

01:44:19.700 Whatever.

01:44:20.040 She's a total brokey, right?

01:44:22.000 Just if you want to be.

01:44:24.700 If you want to go off the deep end, then you better start swimming.

01:44:28.180 What are we doing?

01:44:29.160 You pointed out that she said she was bored too.

01:44:31.400 Yeah.

01:44:31.920 That's not even clear if she's trying to date.

01:44:33.240 That's kind of like a lot of women's like thing now.

01:44:35.400 It's like, oh, I'm bored.

01:44:36.340 I just want to talk to men or I'm bored.

01:44:38.120 I don't know.

01:44:38.420 I feel like I hear that a lot.

01:44:39.300 Just want attention.

01:44:39.700 Just want attention and validation.

01:44:44.080 All right.

01:44:45.300 Especially a lot of women in Gen Z area and stuff.

01:44:49.080 I feel like.

01:44:49.380 I don't know.

01:44:49.860 Well, everyone's so depressed in Gen Z area.

01:44:53.480 Okay.

01:44:53.920 Well, I'm not inclined to derail the conversation and have a conversation about depression.

01:45:00.780 No.

01:45:01.300 Not what I meant at all.

01:45:02.760 I meant they're bored.

01:45:04.360 Everything just kind of feels like it wants more entertainment.

01:45:09.260 Yeah.

01:45:09.600 And the TikTok brain.

01:45:10.860 You want more entertainment?

01:45:11.780 Go pick up a hobby.

01:45:12.960 Go pick up a hobby.

01:45:13.420 Oh, I.

01:45:13.980 Netflix.

01:45:14.700 I do Netflix.

01:45:15.660 HBO Max.

01:45:16.300 Love Island, guys.

01:45:17.880 Oh, yeah.

01:45:18.600 That niche.

01:45:19.200 They get tired of that so fast.

01:45:20.960 So, I guess my question is, she did mention she was bored.

01:45:24.280 Has anybody here ever been on a dating app just because you're bored?

01:45:28.220 Without any, like, actual intention to.

01:45:30.260 Me and Amber call it hinging it out.

01:45:32.080 Yeah.

01:45:32.300 I'm a hinge fluencer.

01:45:32.960 Well, when I was single, but yeah.

01:45:34.120 What do you mean you're a hinge fluencer?

01:45:35.180 Hinge fluencer.

01:45:36.120 You know what?

01:45:36.720 Maybe we should get, do you have prompts on your hinge?

01:45:41.160 I don't think so.

01:45:42.060 I think I just put.

01:45:42.800 Wait, don't you have the recording of me giving you, like, a thing?

01:45:45.260 What?

01:45:45.580 No, that was for you.

01:45:46.240 Oh, damn.

01:45:47.300 Damn.

01:45:47.560 That would have been good.

01:45:47.800 Do you know what your prompts say?

01:45:49.560 Yeah, looking for sweethearts and honesty.

01:45:51.740 I think that's all I put on there.

01:45:52.880 That's it?

01:45:53.240 Yeah.

01:45:53.720 Because I think it allows three.

01:45:55.060 Because that, for me, usually tracks, like, the good type of guys for me, personally.

01:45:58.200 Not too far from the mic again.

01:45:59.960 Okay.

01:46:03.400 So, just, you'll have, you have two separate prompts.

01:46:06.600 One of them says looking for sweethearts, looking for honesty, or?

01:46:09.840 Yeah.

01:46:10.160 I think that's all I have on there.

01:46:11.840 Okay.

01:46:12.540 How many matches would you say you get per day?

01:46:17.860 I don't know.

01:46:18.600 Like, 20, 30, maybe, daily.

01:46:21.920 How many people would you, are you talking to on there?

01:46:24.640 Um, consistently, I don't really talk to anyone.

01:46:28.860 It's, like, whoever reaches out to me, if they, like, want to come out to talk to me.

01:46:32.640 I don't really go out of my way to reach out to someone, but if they come to me, I'm sure I'll have.

01:46:38.000 Yeah.

01:46:38.380 Yeah, Mel?

01:46:38.880 I think she's a very kind soul.

01:46:40.840 Oh, thank you.

01:46:42.140 Thank you.

01:46:42.740 I also think that a lot of the time, like, you aren't really talking on the Hinge platform itself.

01:46:46.960 Like, you're moving to Snapchat, or Numbers, or Instagram DMs, or whatever.

01:46:51.820 Mostly Snapchat, so you can see if they're a catfish or not.

01:46:54.640 True.

01:46:55.020 So you can get pictures.

01:46:55.440 Those are live photos.

01:46:57.080 Those are live.

01:46:58.480 Sometimes they aren't.

01:46:59.460 Sometimes you can, like, remix the photo.

01:47:01.480 You can green screen it, but.

01:47:03.820 Green screen is crazy.

01:47:05.540 All right.

01:47:06.020 So, um, I have a question here.

01:47:08.760 So, have you guys ever seen, and I've, this seems to be, like, a, I don't know if it's a complaint I hear, but.

01:47:15.740 Do you frequently see, like, beautiful women with mid-men?

01:47:21.400 Yeah.

01:47:21.980 Yes.

01:47:22.380 Just here, hold on.

01:47:23.120 Let's go around the table.

01:47:24.300 Oh, yeah.

01:47:24.800 For sure.

01:47:25.920 Yes.

01:47:26.580 Yeah.

01:47:27.380 Yes.

01:47:28.020 Yes.

01:47:28.860 Yep.

01:47:29.680 Yep.

01:47:30.240 Yes.

01:47:30.640 More so than the reverse?

01:47:32.080 Yes.

01:47:32.640 More so than the reverse?

01:47:33.940 Yes.

01:47:34.140 Yes.

01:47:34.240 Yes.

01:47:34.280 Do you ever question, why is she with that guy?

01:47:37.020 No.

01:47:37.520 No.

01:47:37.680 I mean, you might be like, oh, like, she's beautiful.

01:47:39.480 Like, she'd probably, oh, I'm sorry.

01:47:42.000 Yeah.

01:47:42.660 Yeah.

01:47:43.160 I think that with, um, and this is, like, kind of a controversial statement, but I feel like

01:47:48.580 a lot of people are going to agree with it.

01:47:50.080 When a man meets a woman, I think within the first, like, five minutes of talking to them,

01:47:57.400 intro-wise, they probably have already made up in their mind what category this woman is

01:48:01.940 going to go into, whether it's someone that they view sexually, romantically, or otherwise,

01:48:06.620 like, in that way, or if they see them as more like a friend or someone that they're

01:48:10.440 not interested in a sexual way.

01:48:12.540 So, um, whereas a woman is very different in that sense, um, I might have met someone

01:48:18.200 and seen them and been like, I'm not really my type of guy or person to, to date or be

01:48:24.560 sexual with, but then their personality and how they make me feel when I'm around them,

01:48:28.640 that sort of thing can really change whether or not, um, they fall back into, like, the

01:48:33.460 having sex category.

01:48:35.100 You know what I mean?

01:48:35.980 Right.

01:48:36.320 I feel like that category doesn't really change too much for a man's mind.

01:48:40.220 But just so I'm clear, everybody here has seen this phenomenon of beautiful women being

01:48:46.280 with mid-guys.

01:48:46.600 Beautiful girls in terms of their looks with mid-guys in terms of their looks.

01:48:51.520 Which actually brings me back to the point that I've made.

01:48:54.280 Women just put more effort into what they look like, so there's just more beautiful women

01:49:00.240 out there.

01:49:00.780 You know, I was actually thinking about this earlier today.

01:49:03.020 Could it just be that the things that make somebody attractive, just genetically speaking,

01:49:10.140 women are more likely to have those things?

01:49:12.100 For example, I was thinking, and this is just one example of, like, many different ways

01:49:17.300 this could manifest itself.

01:49:18.440 But somebody who has, like, a sort of weak facial structure.

01:49:22.340 So, like, you'll see beautiful women who have, like, very pronounced jaws, but also women

01:49:28.840 who have more, like, rounded, weaker jawlines.

01:49:31.440 But still, they're still deemed physically attractive.

01:49:35.080 Whereas it occurred to me that there will be more men who have weaker faces, and just

01:49:42.180 on that metric alone will be deemed unattractive.

01:49:44.440 And I thought about that, and I was like, could there actually just be almost like a biological,

01:49:48.600 a biological genetic component that what is deemed more attractive, that range is actually

01:49:57.140 bigger for women than it is for men.

01:49:59.620 Can I comment on that?

01:50:00.320 I was thinking more.

01:50:00.640 Because women can have very sharp features and still be beautiful, but they can also

01:50:05.480 have, like, more rounded, softer features and still be beautiful.

01:50:09.480 It's not clear to me if men who have, like, weak jawlines, they tend to be overlooked in

01:50:14.940 terms of being deemed physically attractive.

01:50:17.040 I wanted to comment on this because I like to paint, so I kind of look at faces a lot.

01:50:23.740 And I was, I noticed that actually men are more likely to appear attractive to a woman,

01:50:31.440 even if they're not, like, physically attractive by standard.

01:50:36.420 Because a man, and he can be much older also, and can still be very attractive to a woman,

01:50:42.420 just how he acts, how he presents himself, his confidence.

01:50:45.700 A girl has much, if she's not traditionally attractive, she has lesser chance to appear

01:50:53.200 attractive to a man.

01:50:54.540 Yeah, exactly how I kind of just said, like, with my first response.

01:50:57.420 But I think what he's saying is more just focused just solely on the facial structure

01:51:01.500 and, like, the way that you look.

01:51:03.040 I don't think so.

01:51:03.460 Nothing to do with, like, your personality is what he was trying to explain, I think.

01:51:08.060 Right, Brian?

01:51:08.540 You're trying to explain, like, that from the neck up, a man having a different, like,

01:51:14.420 jaw structure and bone structure in their face varies more than a woman.

01:51:18.500 Yeah, so just to add, so to add on to that, I think the, like, in terms of, like, facial,

01:51:25.080 facial symmetry, and then also, I would say, facial, like, jaw structure.

01:51:32.280 I actually think in terms of what is deemed physically attractive for men, it's much

01:51:37.500 more narrow for women, whereas women, the, what can be deemed physically attractive is

01:51:43.140 much wider.

01:51:44.580 Yeah, I mean, I've already heard it.

01:51:46.000 Do you mean women, do you mean, like, men, like, in our eyes or, like, in general?

01:51:49.920 Sorry, I missed that part.

01:51:52.040 In general.

01:51:53.020 By women, by society.

01:51:55.300 But, for example, do you think Adrian Brody is attractive?

01:51:58.480 I have no idea who that is.

01:51:59.380 The guy that played the pianist, right?

01:52:01.720 Well, he has, okay, what?

01:52:04.840 Well, he's not, like, traditionally attractive, but his features, if you pick at them, they're

01:52:10.300 not traditionally attractive, but overall, the facial harmony is attractive.

01:52:14.920 May I weigh in?

01:52:15.500 Yeah.

01:52:15.860 So, I would like to actually answer your question, Brian, and, like, you are actually correct,

01:52:21.900 but also throughout history, like, if you look at the paintings and look at how specifically,

01:52:27.680 because you mentioned, like, and as an artist myself, like, I love to look at all the history

01:52:35.060 in the art specifically, and men would present themselves in a specific way, and there were

01:52:41.800 literal societal things that were told that a man is beautiful or handsome and that a woman

01:52:49.180 is beautiful or handsome, and sometimes it was the weaker jawline and, like, a slimmer body and, like,

01:52:56.840 a completely, like, feminine look, and sometimes it was, like, a bodybuilder type.

01:53:02.740 So, it's like, it literally just depends on what area you're in.

01:53:06.560 And at this particular moment, just because of the internet and the variety of everything,

01:53:12.400 there are specific aspects that come on the media that present men to be more attractive.

01:53:20.560 So, that's just, I feel like, as a society, we're all conditioned to believe what is attractive

01:53:26.660 from the beginning and what society deems attractive.

01:53:29.800 Also, it's varied by country.

01:53:32.000 If you go to South Korea.

01:53:33.480 Exactly, exactly.

01:53:34.520 Sand type and stuff like that, 100%.

01:53:36.380 But I do think that women a little bit have more of a slight upper hand because of the

01:53:41.280 fact that women, if we're taking down from just the face and we're going with body too,

01:53:47.180 then that can determine whether a man is attracted to a woman far faster than, like, because obviously

01:53:53.260 when you meet someone in person, you're not just seeing their neck up, you're seeing the

01:53:57.020 entire body.

01:53:57.680 And a woman can have, you know, a traditionally not society pretty face structure, right?

01:54:05.840 I hate to say that because I think every woman is beautiful in their own unique way.

01:54:08.520 But I'm just saying, in society's terms, not the prettiest face, but she's got, like,

01:54:13.540 a super snatched waist, fat ass, and great tits.

01:54:17.920 Then immediately a guy's going to be like, well, I can turn her around.

01:54:21.320 And so, she's still getting laid all the time.

01:54:23.640 You know what I'm saying?

01:54:24.340 Like, a woman's body is also just something that, like, that's a huge variable.

01:54:30.380 Like, whether your face is face card or not worthy, like, you can still get, you can still

01:54:36.100 have other attributes that make a man want to sleep with you and deem you attractive.

01:54:41.500 I would even add to my argument.

01:54:43.560 Same with the guy, though.

01:54:44.220 Moving on just beyond face, I'd make the same argument for body too.

01:54:50.040 The acceptable range of what can be deemed physically attractive when it comes to your

01:54:54.960 body, I think, is far wider for women than it is for men.

01:54:58.780 Women can be thick.

01:55:00.340 They can be thin.

01:55:00.960 They can be skinny.

01:55:01.620 They can be fit.

01:55:02.740 Whereas, it's not clear to me if there's, like, a corresponding, like, this is hot.

01:55:08.400 This is my body type.

01:55:09.720 Dad bod.

01:55:10.680 Some girls really enjoy a good dad bod.

01:55:12.720 That dad bod thing is total cope.

01:55:14.940 It's not, though.

01:55:16.340 It's not, though.

01:55:17.460 It's really not.

01:55:18.340 If somebody has a dad bod, it's absolute cope.

01:55:21.740 And then some people really like, like, the scrawny type of, like, tall, lanky type of

01:55:26.460 look.

01:55:26.800 Tall, skinny boys.

01:55:27.220 Yeah.

01:55:27.480 Tall, skinny boys.

01:55:28.500 Or there's, like, the chiseled, buff-like looking guy, which obviously, like, in magazines

01:55:33.540 and society deems, like, the abs and the chiseledness to be the most attractive.

01:55:38.500 I know a good majority of the girls at this table would probably prefer a tall, lanky, scrawny

01:55:43.640 guy or even a guy with a little bit more of, like, a dad bod type of thing, which doesn't

01:55:48.820 mean that he's, like, fat or unfit in any way.

01:55:51.980 It just means that he's more of, like, a bulkier type of man.

01:55:55.800 And, but yet society deems having, like, eight-pack abs is, like, what's the most sexy?

01:56:01.100 And anyone can, like, go to the gym also.

01:56:03.580 Like, think about that.

01:56:04.180 Like, if you have, like, if you're, like, again, like, a guy can have a dad bod, a girl can,

01:56:07.940 like, be bigger, whatever, whatever your body status is.

01:56:11.060 If you want to work on it, it doesn't really matter, in my opinion, what you look like as

01:56:14.960 long as you're working on yourself, like, consistently and, like, you want to get better

01:56:18.800 and you want to be the best version of yourself.

01:56:20.820 And that's where a man has a little bit more of an advantage when it comes to, like, going

01:56:24.980 to the gym and on that fitness journey.

01:56:26.780 That is actually true.

01:56:27.740 Like, men have an advantage.

01:56:28.920 Yes.

01:56:29.140 Well, they're genetically stronger overall than a woman is.

01:56:33.140 Yeah, men don't value physical strength than women.

01:56:34.560 And I've heard you make that argument before about, like, men being, you know, genetically

01:56:38.780 stronger.

01:56:39.780 And also they, because it's a true, it's a true thing.

01:56:43.180 I'm not disagreeing with it.

01:56:44.040 Right, but, so, ability.

01:56:44.840 I'm actually using your argument as, like, a reason for my mind is bigger.

01:56:48.280 Women sometimes talk about.

01:56:49.100 Men really, like, I mean, obviously.

01:56:51.580 I can't work out and make my boobs to a D-cup.

01:56:53.460 I can't work out and make my boobs bigger.

01:56:55.300 I can work out and glow my glutes.

01:56:57.040 I can grow my glutes.

01:56:57.900 You can work your ass, too.

01:56:58.960 Most men care more about ass than they do about boobs.

01:57:01.080 Well, that's also just a preference.

01:57:03.180 So, what is the, I mean, what, I guess, is the point?

01:57:06.380 Because, yeah, men could put on muscle more, but women care more about muscle on men than

01:57:11.660 do men care about muscle on women.

01:57:13.640 Well, I got called a muffin top in the first 10 minutes.

01:57:16.340 So, I guarantee you that's not true.

01:57:18.100 I'm just saying, like, men do point out that characteristic.

01:57:20.760 You could never lift a weight in your entire life and still be thin.

01:57:25.460 Yeah, exactly.

01:57:25.900 That's what I'm saying.

01:57:27.100 Yeah, but you made a comment about, I mean, to, about more jazz.

01:57:30.620 But men are more genetically prone to gain muscle faster than a woman.

01:57:34.000 I think she's just saying men can go to the gym and gain muscle faster than women can.

01:57:37.680 What does that have to do?

01:57:38.460 Not just muscle, just being fit.

01:57:40.280 Like, being thin.

01:57:41.460 I guess some women have, like, hormonal issues.

01:57:44.100 My whole point was, if you have a dad bod, if you're skinny, you can go to the gym or

01:57:48.320 you can work on yourself.

01:57:49.800 Yeah.

01:57:50.320 Or even being, like, on, like, on hormonal pills and stuff like that.

01:57:54.220 Like, that affects a woman's.

01:57:55.760 Or just be confident.

01:57:56.520 Or even your age or whatever.

01:57:57.300 Or whatever you look like.

01:57:58.120 Yeah.

01:57:58.980 That's just women have more factors working against them when it comes to going to the

01:58:02.380 gym and being fit faster than a man can get fit.

01:58:04.840 Because all I'm saying, I'm not saying that a woman can't go, can't go from.

01:58:08.540 Got to argue with you here.

01:58:09.260 Okay.

01:58:09.500 Go for it.

01:58:10.180 All right.

01:58:10.660 So, I would actually argue that in terms of the, how do I want to frame this?

01:58:17.280 In terms of aspirational body types, the aspirational body type, like, you hear beauty standards,

01:58:25.120 depictions of beauty in media.

01:58:26.520 The aspirational body type for a woman is far more easily achieved than the aspirational

01:58:33.240 body type and depictions that you see in media than it is for men.

01:58:37.640 I can prove this if we look specifically at superhero movies.

01:58:41.300 The physique of the lead female superheroes in superhero movies is achievable by a much

01:58:49.540 larger margin of women than men who are trying to look like Hugh Jackman or men who can, who

01:58:55.580 have the, or in terms of capability, who can look like Hugh Jackman or look like Thor.

01:59:00.740 I forgot his, the name of the actor.

01:59:02.780 Look like Ryan Reynolds, et cetera.

01:59:05.260 Chris Hemsworth.

01:59:05.700 Most women don't really care about big muscles.

01:59:09.160 Right.

01:59:09.600 But it doesn't, well, actually.

01:59:13.020 As long as you're fit and like, okay.

01:59:15.400 Right.

01:59:15.600 But if we're talking about aspirational body types.

01:59:17.740 I have a, I have a rebuttal for your argument because it is valid.

01:59:20.620 It is more, it is more easily obtained for the quote unquote woman's physique to be obtained.

01:59:28.320 Yes.

01:59:28.620 Because it's a lot harder to get like an eight pack chiseled abs and perfect biceps than

01:59:34.180 it is to get, to grow your glutes in the gym.

01:59:37.180 Yes.

01:59:37.520 But I'm not, I'm not arguing with you there.

01:59:39.460 I'm just arguing the fact that is it going to take longer for a woman to get that physique

01:59:45.360 than a man if they were to go to the gym on the same regimen?

01:59:48.300 Yes.

01:59:49.180 No, it's not going to take longer for a woman to get the same physique because there's two

01:59:53.020 differentials here.

01:59:53.900 So I'll grant you, I'll grant you this.

01:59:57.520 So for both men and women to have an idealistic physique, they need to have a low body fat

02:00:03.120 percentage.

02:00:03.820 It's not clear to me if women need to then go and spend years in the gym to develop muscularity

02:00:10.840 the same way that men do.

02:00:12.200 So as a woman, you can actually have a fairly ideal body type just through diet.

02:00:19.980 It's not clear to me if men can have a fairly, it's not clear to me if men can have a fairly

02:00:26.700 ideal body type without doing any sort of training that would develop muscle.

02:00:30.900 Yeah.

02:00:31.420 I agree with you.

02:00:32.480 That's because women typically aren't supposed to be more like the mass, more like, uh, with

02:00:36.680 like the look or like the bigger biceps, the bigger backs.

02:00:39.640 Yeah.

02:00:39.760 Men don't really, it's good if a woman's fit, but I mean, in terms of her being like body

02:00:44.580 builder physique, no men don't, that don't care.

02:00:47.200 So if you have the body type of, um, I don't want to, I'll just use myself.

02:00:53.380 You can do me.

02:00:54.500 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

02:00:56.180 I wasn't going to say anything negative about anyone's body.

02:00:58.160 I was just going to say like, if you, if you're very like stick thin and you're just

02:01:02.940 born, you know, a little bit more flat up here and flat down there, um, she's like, I

02:01:07.840 know you're about to use me.

02:01:09.440 I was, but I didn't want to.

02:01:10.520 You looked at me.

02:01:11.280 I saw that.

02:01:11.780 I was just looking around to see like the, the boobs.

02:01:14.380 No, um, but I'm just saying like, that's something that like genetically, unless you put

02:01:19.980 on a bunch of weight, which is not just going to go in one spot, then it's going to go other

02:01:24.520 places.

02:01:24.840 That's all I'm trying to say is that like, and, and just hormonally, like a woman is

02:01:29.380 going to be like, if you're in your, if you're in your forties or 50, it's going to be a lot

02:01:33.800 harder for you to gain muscle, let alone lose weight in general.

02:01:36.800 Even if you diet and do all the exercises, it's going to be harder for you because you

02:01:40.600 have menopausal hormones working against you.

02:01:44.520 And if you are younger than you have those to your advantage as a female and a male.

02:01:48.940 So I'm just saying like physiologically, it's easier for a man to build muscle.

02:01:53.800 I'm not saying that it's not impossible, that it's impossible or that the woman's body type

02:01:59.020 isn't easier to obtain.

02:02:00.400 I'm just saying that.

02:02:01.460 Okay.

02:02:01.660 So hold on.

02:02:02.540 So yes, it is easier for men to build muscle, but you have to, right.

02:02:07.240 But you have to remember that men don't care if you're muscular or not.

02:02:11.240 That's not true for everyone.

02:02:12.480 Like a man might look at my body type and like her more or vice versa.

02:02:16.960 You know what I mean?

02:02:17.820 I'm still failing what that has to do with muscularity.

02:02:21.960 Because, okay.

02:02:23.220 I think she's talking about being thin.

02:02:24.880 Yeah.

02:02:25.240 Right.

02:02:25.620 You don't need to have muscle as a woman to have a low body fat percentage.

02:02:29.320 But it's harder to actually keep the lower, the lower body fat percentage.

02:02:34.700 That's hard for anyone.

02:02:35.060 For women or for men?

02:02:37.900 For everyone, but it is harder for women.

02:02:43.020 200 donated, $200.

02:02:46.240 Women care about height.

02:02:48.240 Men can't work out to gain height.

02:02:50.580 You just said a lot of women are okay with tall, lanky men.

02:02:54.700 Women with any body type can get the enough said.

02:02:57.440 Any body type.

02:02:59.200 Yo, 200.

02:03:00.080 Thank you for the 200.

02:03:01.760 I don't disagree that, like, I never once said, like, when we were having the disagreements about if a woman can sleep with more men in a day than an average woman, an average man.

02:03:14.800 I never disagreed with that.

02:03:16.120 So I agree with your end statement.

02:03:18.300 And also, like, if the whole height thing, yes, that's true.

02:03:22.600 A man cannot change his height.

02:03:24.020 But you can also do things to accentuate your height, like wear platform shoes, put insoles in your shoes.

02:03:31.760 And just as, just, I'm just saying if that's something, yeah.

02:03:36.180 I love a short king.

02:03:37.440 I'm 5'2", so, like, anyone's taller than me, especially if you're a male.

02:03:40.780 If you're eye to eye with me, that's really, really, really, really rare.

02:03:43.320 So, like, if you're a 5'5", you're still taller than me.

02:03:47.240 And also, I personally have been known to date men that are 5'5", or 5'10", or 6'3".

02:03:54.020 I don't care about that sort of thing, personally.

02:03:55.180 I say short women should take the short men and the tall women should take the tall men.

02:03:58.420 Because, I mean, I'm 5'8".

02:03:59.320 Disagree.

02:04:00.240 Okay, okay.

02:04:01.100 Yeah, Amber over here is, like, 5'9", 5'10".

02:04:04.080 So she towers over most of the men that she dates.

02:04:06.980 It's never been an issue.

02:04:07.980 Actually, you know what's interesting about that?

02:04:09.580 Like, if a woman is on the short side, she tends to have a stronger preference for, like, a 6' guy.

02:04:16.680 I know, that's the problem.

02:04:17.940 But then, like, 5'8", 5'9", of us are the only people around are 5'5".

02:04:20.780 And you can't find all the 6' guys are dating 4'11".

02:04:24.860 It's terrible.

02:04:25.760 It's fucked up.

02:04:26.260 That's the problem.

02:04:27.140 Which I'm like, I don't care about it.

02:04:28.700 These tall girls got to go to war with the short chicks.

02:04:31.920 It's so bad.

02:04:32.780 And the short chicks usually win, to be honest.

02:04:35.080 Yes.

02:04:35.240 Because the guys like...

02:04:36.500 Oh, you're so petite.

02:04:37.700 I can throw you around.

02:04:38.380 I like shorter women because they're like, oh, she's shorter.

02:04:40.840 I can protect her more.

02:04:41.840 I can be more of a man in that sense with her.

02:04:43.880 But then with taller women, I feel like they're just, like, maybe intimidated by the taller women.

02:04:48.460 I don't know if it's...

02:04:50.260 I don't think men are intimidated by a taller woman.

02:04:52.580 I just think it's a general preference for...

02:04:54.280 Yeah, that's valid.

02:04:54.980 That's valid.

02:04:55.520 ...for shorter women.

02:04:56.680 In the same way that women have a general preference for taller men.

02:04:59.100 I asked my fiancé before, he said he would never date someone his own height.

02:05:02.700 Yeah, I've had men intimidated by my height, for sure.

02:05:04.900 And they've told me.

02:05:05.740 I struggle.

02:05:06.360 Because I am, like, 5'9", 5'10".

02:05:08.040 And, like, I've had guys, like, not approach me.

02:05:10.080 Like they said, I'm intimidated.

02:05:11.940 They wouldn't find them attractive.

02:05:13.840 Let's just say that.

02:05:14.500 I was told to not wear heels just because I was, like, an inch taller than a guy.

02:05:18.520 Nah, wear heels.

02:05:19.080 I wear heels every single time.

02:05:20.660 Amen.

02:05:20.900 Wear heels.

02:05:21.460 Wear heels.

02:05:22.120 Be, from what I've learned, is be proud of your height for women.

02:05:26.620 Like, I don't know.

02:05:27.120 I feel like people don't preference that.

02:05:29.200 But I feel like us tall women need to stand tall, wear your heels, show your confidence.

02:05:33.760 And I also found...

02:05:34.440 You say no?

02:05:35.520 Really?

02:05:35.880 I also found in...

02:05:36.420 I wouldn't wear heels.

02:05:37.120 Why?

02:05:37.700 5'10".

02:05:38.380 I also found in business.

02:05:39.200 My cousin's six foot and she wore heels.

02:05:41.600 I am...

02:05:42.020 No, because then no one will talk to me if we go out.

02:05:44.160 I've got...

02:05:44.480 No, but...

02:05:45.040 No, no, no.

02:05:45.460 See, that's...

02:05:46.340 No, because then from there, you find the men that want to talk to you that aren't intimidated,

02:05:50.400 that are good in their masculinity, that they're like, I can handle this tall woman because

02:05:54.380 I know she's a badass MF.

02:05:57.200 And they want that.

02:05:57.900 That's very rare.

02:05:58.540 They want that.

02:05:59.100 Yeah, it's really rare.

02:05:59.640 It's very rare.

02:06:00.600 It's rare, but that's why you only have one guy on your roster.

02:06:04.000 That's why you don't have 10 or 15...

02:06:05.960 Yeah, but other guys...

02:06:07.080 But then how are you going to meet that one guy if you don't have a good size?

02:06:09.060 I'm not saying sleeping with them all the time.

02:06:10.840 I'm just saying...

02:06:11.220 Oh, well, okay.

02:06:11.880 Yeah.

02:06:12.240 Let me explain something.

02:06:13.440 I am 5'9".

02:06:14.540 I've been in the business world.

02:06:16.220 I've been in sales.

02:06:17.080 I have found that when I wear heels, I am more respected than I was wearing flats because

02:06:22.920 I was one of the tallest people in the room all the time.

02:06:27.400 And they had to look at me in the eye instead of looking down on me.

02:06:32.080 And they treated me better that way in the sales world, in the business world, rather

02:06:37.000 than being short.

02:06:38.200 Just saying.

02:06:40.360 It's a thing.

02:06:42.100 I don't know.

02:06:42.400 I'm too scared to do that.

02:06:43.220 I feel like I already looked down at boys for the most part.

02:06:45.820 That's why you get men.

02:06:47.680 That's why you get men.

02:06:48.200 I want to ask the chat.

02:06:49.120 Chat, are you intimidated by tall women?

02:06:52.840 I'm curious.

02:06:53.220 I want...

02:06:53.420 Yeah.

02:06:53.600 I've never been intimidated by a tall woman.

02:06:57.140 I'm over the...

02:06:57.740 In fact, I'm like...

02:06:58.680 If I see a really tall chick, like 6'7", I'm like...

02:07:01.520 Then you're like, oh, yeah.

02:07:02.100 I'm shooting my fucking shot.

02:07:04.460 Yeah, it's a problem.

02:07:05.520 Let's fucking go.

02:07:05.700 D1 babies go crazy.

02:07:07.420 D1, let's go.

02:07:08.460 D1.

02:07:09.740 I'm just saying no.

02:07:10.720 But also, if I see a chick who's like 4'10", I'm also...

02:07:13.820 Not D1, but maybe still.

02:07:15.820 But my husband's first wife was super short and he loves being able to look at me in

02:07:20.100 the eye.

02:07:21.360 He loves it.

02:07:22.100 Above 5'1", terrifying.

02:07:23.680 I think it's...

02:07:24.640 Tall women don't want to date shorter guys.

02:07:27.280 No, they don't.

02:07:27.800 Because typically...

02:07:28.200 We're not intimidated.

02:07:29.240 You just don't really want to date shorter dudes.

02:07:32.000 I've dated shorter guys.

02:07:34.260 Yeah, me too.

02:07:35.360 And I'm 5'4".

02:07:35.820 That's not me, though.

02:07:36.780 I'm 5'4", and I've been with shorter guys.

02:07:40.040 Yeah, but what's your overall preference?

02:07:42.000 I don't really have a preference.

02:07:43.620 Okay.

02:07:44.320 Okay.

02:07:44.600 I feel like taller because then they can be...

02:07:47.020 They're typically the more a man.

02:07:48.560 They're more masculine.

02:07:49.580 They can protect you more, I guess, in that sense.

02:07:51.700 In the perceived sense.

02:07:52.980 I feel like that's why women...

02:07:53.800 I feel like that's why women like taller men in that idea.

02:07:57.820 Devon Jackson donated $200.

02:08:00.900 I'm 5'11", on Tinder, I'm 6'0", and if she's under 5'9", I don't want her.

02:08:08.740 I implore tall men to stop shortening their bloodline for these tiny stompings.

02:08:14.400 I like this guy.

02:08:15.720 I like this guy.

02:08:16.420 He knows what he wants.

02:08:17.380 The amount of DMs I've gotten from people saying,

02:08:19.720 Brian, you're going to fuck your bloodline.

02:08:22.980 I don't say this.

02:08:23.560 How tall are you, if I may ask you?

02:08:24.520 I'm 6'1".

02:08:25.320 Yeah.

02:08:25.680 Yeah.

02:08:26.000 Okay.

02:08:26.340 Valid.

02:08:28.560 Keep the D1 babies.

02:08:30.800 Anyways.

02:08:31.580 What was the next thing we were going to pull up, Nick?

02:08:33.660 We're talking about the photos, maybe, but...

02:08:35.520 Like the makeup photos?

02:08:38.280 No, the body...

02:08:40.560 Oh, we're going to move on.

02:08:42.120 What's the next thing?

02:08:43.820 The next thing would be the Leo stuff,

02:08:46.720 or the person that flaked today or something,

02:08:50.300 but sent all the stuff.

02:08:51.560 All that shit.

02:08:52.200 Or your tweet, and then...

02:08:54.200 Is that it?

02:08:55.100 Or is there...

02:08:55.640 Oh, the bear.

02:08:56.220 There's the bear, too.

02:08:56.980 Yeah, I thought you would just do that with your topic.

02:08:59.180 We'll do...

02:09:00.200 Okay, let's pull up that girl's notes.

02:09:03.420 Okay.

02:09:04.120 So pull that up.

02:09:06.300 Oh, dang.

02:09:07.660 She's flaked.

02:09:08.120 And then after that,

02:09:08.980 we'll get into the pre-show notes from everybody else.

02:09:10.960 Zoom that in.

02:09:12.580 Do you want to start at the top?

02:09:13.620 We'll start at the top.

02:09:17.880 Let's see.

02:09:18.540 My friends got me to start keeping a kiss list with commentary.

02:09:23.100 My mom got me a very nice notebook and got drunk and told me to write about all my European dicks in it,

02:09:30.260 and then was surprised when it became the travel dick notebook for real.

02:09:35.340 Guy told me he was still in love with his ex.

02:09:37.200 We had sex even though he was a virgin.

02:09:38.940 And after he went, that's it.

02:09:40.280 I've done that before.

02:09:41.180 Wait, what?

02:09:41.920 He was then really surprised.

02:09:43.100 I wasn't expecting that to become a relationship.

02:09:45.440 What?

02:09:46.660 Read that again.

02:09:47.180 He was then...

02:09:47.620 Wait.

02:09:47.900 He told me he was in love with his ex.

02:09:49.460 We had sex even though he was a virgin.

02:09:51.760 Okay, so she took for his virginity.

02:09:53.720 But he says, I've done that before.

02:09:55.540 So was he not a virgin?

02:09:57.440 So I think she's saying he lied.

02:09:58.740 So he lied about being a virgin.

02:09:59.800 Yeah.

02:10:00.140 No, I don't know.

02:10:01.620 Wait, I'm confused.

02:10:03.480 He was a virgin.

02:10:04.800 He went, that's it.

02:10:05.940 I've done that before.

02:10:07.880 Or maybe he was just saying like...

02:10:09.340 Oh, so he came clean about him not being a virgin after...

02:10:13.500 I don't know if that's clear.

02:10:14.540 I don't know if it's clear that he...

02:10:17.100 Maybe like...

02:10:18.040 But why the that's it?

02:10:20.400 That's it?

02:10:21.160 I've done that before.

02:10:21.680 He was disappointed?

02:10:22.620 Maybe he forgot that he had sex?

02:10:23.940 Oh, he's saying like, oh, that's it?

02:10:25.820 And then he was like, oh, okay.

02:10:27.900 I think I know what she's trying to say.

02:10:29.020 She's saying like after the sex, after he probably finished, he's saying, oh, that's it?

02:10:33.860 Like I've done that before.

02:10:34.840 Like I've came before.

02:10:36.460 He thought it was going to be a different type of orgasm than it was.

02:10:39.340 Yeah, that's how I'm pursuing it.

02:10:40.860 I think that could...

02:10:41.420 Yeah, that could be it.

02:10:42.740 Well, that's messed up.

02:10:44.360 I'm really surprised I wasn't expecting my ex.

02:10:46.240 Asked me if I know anyone with smaller boobs than myself.

02:10:49.540 Skunky weed gave the Swedish man whiskey dick.

02:10:51.940 And the solution was while naked and on top of me to hold the base and slap the shit out of the tip and went cursed yoint.

02:10:59.300 Oh, my God.

02:11:00.220 Okay, he...

02:11:00.900 Oh, this next one is the one I wanted to talk about.

02:11:03.420 He wouldn't kiss me after I gave him head because that's gross.

02:11:06.280 So the next time I spit his cum into his mouth, it was not a problem after that.

02:11:11.380 Yo, I actually...

02:11:13.240 Fire.

02:11:13.760 Bro.

02:11:14.680 I actually think that's sexual assault.

02:11:16.720 That's crazy.

02:11:17.860 That's actually crazy.

02:11:19.380 That's...

02:11:19.780 I actually think that's...

02:11:20.680 Because it's boundaries.

02:11:22.180 He had a boundary of being uncomfortable, kissing after that.

02:11:25.880 Yeah, yeah.

02:11:27.080 Bro, I wanted to get her on the show so fucking bad because of that.

02:11:30.600 But she pulled out because I was...

02:11:32.920 Oh, my God.

02:11:33.540 I would have...

02:11:34.600 Oh, man.

02:11:35.240 Okay.

02:11:35.700 Unfortunate, though.

02:11:36.860 Yeah.

02:11:37.380 I do think she should probably go the...

02:11:39.600 I think that's, like, death penalty status, bro.

02:11:43.200 No.

02:11:44.120 It was actually crazy.

02:11:45.100 If you've told a girl, I don't like kissing after head...

02:11:49.100 Yeah.

02:11:49.480 Um...

02:11:50.200 Because that...

02:11:51.640 And then not only, like, she spits the whole fucking load into his mouth.

02:11:57.340 Yeah.

02:11:57.780 That...

02:11:58.340 How could that not be?

02:12:00.800 See, that was the other way around.

02:12:01.960 I mean, yeah, you're not...

02:12:02.760 Yeah, I mean, you're not consenting to it.

02:12:04.360 So, yeah, it's not...

02:12:05.320 That is crazy.

02:12:05.760 But it's the same as if the...

02:12:08.160 As when the guy comes inside without a condom or, like, takes off the condom on purpose.

02:12:14.580 Yeah, the girl's like, oh, I don't want you to come...

02:12:17.160 I don't want you to hit it wrong.

02:12:18.360 Come inside me.

02:12:19.060 But then the guy takes the condom...

02:12:20.580 Yeah, it's the same thing.

02:12:22.000 Yeah, that's not consenting.

02:12:22.900 Yeah, that's 100% of the same.

02:12:25.200 Mm-hmm.

02:12:26.680 That's just not okay.

02:12:28.180 And that's just really gross.

02:12:29.740 So, she planned on being here?

02:12:30.420 It is.

02:12:31.400 Huh?

02:12:31.560 She planned on being here, and then...

02:12:33.080 Why'd she pull out, if you mind me asking?

02:12:35.300 Or if you can even say that.

02:12:37.400 Um...

02:12:37.840 I'm not sure.

02:12:39.260 I think she just got cold feet, because...

02:12:41.060 I don't know.

02:12:41.900 Probably.

02:12:42.200 I mean, that's a lot of crazy stuff.

02:12:44.480 Bro, that's one of the craziest things I've heard.

02:12:47.520 Um...

02:12:49.300 Wow.

02:12:50.200 That was...

02:12:51.700 The silence is so...

02:12:53.700 The silence is so loud.

02:12:55.580 That's all that stuff.

02:12:56.460 If you're watching, dude, and you know that, come...

02:12:58.900 You can talk to me, bro.

02:13:00.380 If that was the guy?

02:13:01.320 Imagine if he comes on the podcast.

02:13:02.680 Yeah, if that was the guy.

02:13:03.540 I'm telling the guy, bro.

02:13:05.560 That'd be crazy.

02:13:06.200 Yeah, that's not...

02:13:06.700 Wait, pull it back up, but then it was like...

02:13:08.340 She said it wasn't an issue after that?

02:13:10.220 Yeah, like, he never didn't want to kiss her after...

02:13:13.820 Oh, my God.

02:13:14.760 Probably because he was scared.

02:13:17.180 Probably because he was scared.

02:13:17.780 Oh, my God.

02:13:19.240 Yeah.

02:13:20.580 That's...

02:13:21.100 There are guys that do like to digest their own.

02:13:23.180 I'm just saying.

02:13:23.880 I am.

02:13:24.060 That's a true thing.

02:13:24.760 Oh, my God.

02:13:25.900 I know that's...

02:13:26.940 I know that probably grosses a lot of you out.

02:13:28.720 I don't kink shame, but that is a thing.

02:13:30.340 I'm just saying.

02:13:31.160 If you didn't know, now you know.

02:13:32.080 No, if I remember that correctly, one of my friends had something like that.

02:13:34.680 Yeah, yeah.

02:13:35.080 It was like...

02:13:35.720 He, like, ate his own...

02:13:37.480 Ew, don't...

02:13:38.200 Yeah.

02:13:39.980 So, you wouldn't kiss a guy after her head?

02:13:41.780 Yeah, that one bit.

02:13:42.660 Although I got on my OS.

02:13:43.880 No, no.

02:13:44.480 But it's like, you were like, ew, that's gross.

02:13:46.400 But it's like, let's say, if she gave a guy head...

02:13:49.080 I mean, you can if you like Mads.

02:13:50.420 I don't know if he's going to...

02:13:51.480 I'm not sure.

02:13:51.500 Would you still think, like, it's gross to kiss him?

02:13:53.600 Yo, somebody find me that dude.

02:13:55.800 Please.

02:13:56.460 Somebody find me the guy.

02:13:57.700 During this.

02:13:58.400 That'd be so funny.

02:14:00.140 Bro, I'll help you file a fucking police report, bro.

02:14:02.860 Yeah, please.

02:14:03.280 That's fucked up.

02:14:06.220 Bro, that's crazy.

02:14:08.680 Okay, hold on.

02:14:10.260 I might get canceled for this.

02:14:11.460 Hold on.

02:14:12.180 Think about what you're going to say.

02:14:14.400 Cover the mic.

02:14:15.060 Okay, in a video game, in a video game, in a video game, if a girl did that and she knew

02:14:23.320 your boundary, can you smack her across the face?

02:14:27.040 In a video game?

02:14:28.160 In a video game.

02:14:29.000 In a video game, you can do anything.

02:14:30.420 You can jump off of a...

02:14:33.140 Obviously, I don't think...

02:14:35.180 Like, that's crazy.

02:14:38.540 File a police report.

02:14:40.060 Yeah, 100%.

02:14:41.740 Just stop talking to her.

02:14:43.520 Don't...

02:14:43.920 I say don't.

02:14:44.880 Personally, I'm not into something that's like, oh, like, I do this for revenge.

02:14:48.460 Because, like, revenge is going to happen.

02:14:50.240 Personally, I don't know.

02:14:51.400 It's like...

02:14:51.800 Yeah, karma will come around to somebody that does something...

02:14:55.320 Not even karma.

02:14:55.880 No, but I wouldn't, like, if...

02:14:57.600 Well, the common revenge is different.

02:14:58.140 I wouldn't be surprised if that were to happen.

02:15:01.600 Like...

02:15:01.920 I mean, still, like...

02:15:03.700 If the guy...

02:15:04.480 Like, because that's, like...

02:15:05.820 Almost like a reflex type of instinctual thing.

02:15:07.960 It would be...

02:15:08.440 It's almost...

02:15:08.920 If somebody spits on you, you might reflexively just smack him in the fucking face.

02:15:13.060 Oh, yeah.

02:15:14.100 I would...

02:15:14.480 Yeah.

02:15:14.880 I would freak out.

02:15:16.500 Like, if somebody just...

02:15:17.340 I would not, like...

02:15:18.320 Spit on me in the face.

02:15:20.900 Just spit on me in the face.

02:15:22.060 Yeah.

02:15:22.340 Let alone...

02:15:22.940 Like, imagine hawking a cum loogie on you.

02:15:25.820 Yeah.

02:15:26.100 Straight into the mouth.

02:15:26.820 In your fucking mouth.

02:15:28.060 Bro.

02:15:29.120 Give him that hawk too.

02:15:30.920 It's crazy.

02:15:32.720 If...

02:15:33.080 Yeah.

02:15:33.260 If somebody spit on me, I'd probably smack him.

02:15:36.180 Give him a good smack in the face.

02:15:38.200 I'd just be like...

02:15:39.500 If somebody spit on me.

02:15:40.360 Get away from me.

02:15:40.940 Yeah.

02:15:41.240 Get away from me.

02:15:42.340 In a video game.

02:15:43.040 In a video game only.

02:15:44.560 Give him a good smack.

02:15:45.500 Allegedly.

02:15:46.040 Okay.

02:15:46.420 All right.

02:15:47.420 All right.

02:15:48.000 It's like GTA old.

02:15:48.640 Pull it back up.

02:15:49.440 I want to see the other degenerate, disgusting shit there was.

02:15:53.240 No.

02:15:54.320 Let's see.

02:15:54.920 What else was there?

02:15:58.740 Saved me from a junk rye.

02:16:00.320 He spoke Norwegian and tried to tell me.

02:16:02.640 Immediately pulled out Subway Surfer and was amazed I knew.

02:16:05.080 After we had...

02:16:05.580 Oh, sorry.

02:16:07.120 Tell me it wasn't English and I was just...

02:16:09.100 After we had sex, he immediately pulled out Subway Surfer and was amazed I knew what it was.

02:16:12.980 Rinse in a repeat for TikTok too.

02:16:14.320 Playing Never Have I Ever with my mom, cousin, and aunt.

02:16:17.440 Yikes.

02:16:18.180 My mom got out first.

02:16:19.320 Okay.

02:16:19.520 Growing up, my mom used to pretend to be sleeping with the captain of Highway Patrol to get out of tickets.

02:16:24.680 That's a great example to set for your child.

02:16:27.380 Okay.

02:16:27.480 Insulin pump alerts kept stopping us, I assume, during sex.

02:16:32.260 Ex asking me to call him daddy and me laughing in his fake mid-stroke.

02:16:37.860 Got invited to a mansion by a 30-year-old named Krusty and went...

02:16:41.940 Clearly, clearly a...

02:16:44.720 I don't even know how to describe this.

02:16:53.960 I mean...

02:16:54.720 We'll never know.

02:16:57.360 It's so much just random stuff.

02:16:59.400 Just like...

02:17:00.460 I mean, they are definitely the craziest ones she probably has under her belt, so...

02:17:08.140 No, it was a real...

02:17:09.000 Somebody in the chat saying it was a troll.

02:17:11.000 It was...

02:17:11.760 No, that was a real...

02:17:12.780 That was a real person.

02:17:14.500 She also went...

02:17:16.000 No, actually, I don't want to...

02:17:17.240 Okay, never mind.

02:17:19.320 Oop.

02:17:19.960 Not in the video.

02:17:21.000 No, I was going to say she went to a certain university, but I'm not going to...

02:17:25.680 Okay, anyways.

02:17:26.300 Don't happen that much.

02:17:27.280 That would be disapproving of that sort of conduct.

02:17:31.040 In any case, what was the next thing?

02:17:33.380 Oh, we'll go around the table on the...

02:17:34.940 We'll do the bear thing, because you wanted to talk about the matter there.

02:17:37.500 Oh, yeah, so I would love to.

02:17:38.240 We'll do that.

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02:18:24.420 And then, so going around the table, would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods?

02:18:31.140 Starting with you.

02:18:31.880 Go ahead.

02:18:33.740 Random bear?

02:18:35.180 I don't know.

02:18:37.120 A random bear.

02:18:38.260 Okay.

02:18:38.780 The bear.

02:18:40.040 Always the bear.

02:18:42.740 I think the bear.

02:18:44.040 Okay.

02:18:44.960 My first instinct was a man.

02:18:47.180 A man.

02:18:49.000 A man.

02:18:50.280 A man.

02:18:51.800 The table's very divided here.

02:18:54.440 Man.

02:18:55.460 Bear.

02:18:56.820 So, why?

02:18:59.120 Why?

02:18:59.700 Because I don't know.

02:19:00.500 The bear, you know, doesn't have any malicious intent.

02:19:03.980 It's just a bear.

02:19:05.400 I don't know if it matters.

02:19:06.340 It attacks you.

02:19:07.560 No, it could attack you, but, like, it's not plotting against you.

02:19:10.780 Why would a man be in the woods with you?

02:19:13.120 Hold on.

02:19:13.620 No, no, no.

02:19:14.080 No, if I hear you correct, a man, like, a bear was just walking up.

02:19:18.600 You're just taking a hike in the woods, and you're walking, and you see a bear come across

02:19:21.860 you, and, like, in the middle of your path.

02:19:23.020 Or would you rather have a man in the middle of your path?

02:19:24.540 That's a human being that you can talk to and be like, hi, how's it going?

02:19:28.060 I was thinking in the context that, like, the man, like, had followed us to the woods

02:19:30.400 or whatever the fuck.

02:19:31.020 Oh, I was thinking in a malicious context, too.

02:19:34.600 Well, he said, well, can you repeat, like, specifically?

02:19:37.560 Would you rather encounter a random bear or a random man?

02:19:40.120 Yeah, I'll say exactly what I said again.

02:19:41.980 So, would you rather come across a random man, so there's no implication of maliciousness

02:19:46.560 there.

02:19:46.980 He could be malicious, or he could be a totally pleasant person, or a random bear in the woods.

02:19:53.220 Okay, then a man.

02:19:53.960 Then I changed that completely.

02:19:55.440 Well, your first instinct was a bear, because, like, it's just, that's interesting.

02:19:59.460 My first instinct was a bear, too.

02:20:01.260 I'm just like, that's kind of interesting.

02:20:02.580 Your first instinct.

02:20:03.600 Wait, before I have you give your take, let's hear the whys on the bear.

02:20:07.240 Yeah, yeah.

02:20:07.820 No, I was just saying, my mind also went to a malicious place because of what I've heard.

02:20:13.080 Oh, but the man could still be malicious.

02:20:15.200 I understand that, and the worst a bear could do is kill you.

02:20:18.040 Yeah, a man could do worse than kill you.

02:20:19.500 Right, right, so, okay.

02:20:20.620 Okay, so here's the scenario.

02:20:22.160 A man could do worse than kill you.

02:20:23.420 Here, okay.

02:20:23.920 It could.

02:20:24.560 It's a file.

02:20:25.220 Let me clarify things a little further.

02:20:27.620 Okay, so, previously when I asked the question, you assumed the man was malicious.

02:20:31.700 Now you're assuming that he's not malicious.

02:20:34.040 You don't know.

02:20:35.620 He could be malicious.

02:20:37.020 He could not.

02:20:38.420 Knowing what you know about the general population of the U.S., of men in the U.S., if we snapped our finger, it picked a totally random man of the entire population of the U.S., and then a totally random bear.

02:20:54.140 Okay.

02:20:54.400 You don't know their intentions.

02:20:56.300 Maybe the bear just ate.

02:20:57.460 Maybe it's not hungry.

02:20:58.600 Maybe it's starving.

02:20:59.440 You don't know.

02:21:00.180 You don't know.

02:21:00.980 But it obviously sees you, right?

02:21:02.820 Yeah, so you will cross paths.

02:21:04.620 Yeah, you obviously can.

02:21:05.600 You will come across them.

02:21:06.700 So it's not like you're hiding.

02:21:08.660 You're walking down the path.

02:21:11.040 I mean, if it's a brown bear, we're safe.

02:21:12.580 But if it's a black bear, then you've got to get back.

02:21:14.120 Random bear.

02:21:14.280 And it's a random bear.

02:21:15.160 Random bear.

02:21:15.780 It could be a brown bear.

02:21:17.040 It could be a polar bear.

02:21:18.740 It could be a polar bear.

02:21:21.100 Not the polar bear in the woods.

02:21:22.860 In the woods is crazy.

02:21:25.760 Yeah, and it's not like there's no real motivations for why are they on the woods.

02:21:30.180 So it's literally you get you're instantly transported to the woods.

02:21:34.580 The man's instantly transported to the woods.

02:21:37.500 And so is the bear in this wood location.

02:21:43.080 Your answer, I guess.

02:21:45.680 I don't know.

02:21:46.880 It's really confusing.

02:21:47.960 It's like a bear can maul you.

02:21:50.220 And a man, though, we don't know his intent, though.

02:21:52.860 I think your subconscious is going to answer it.

02:21:55.160 So yes, a man could tie you up and torture you for seven days.

02:21:59.920 That would be more scary than being mauling a bear.

02:22:02.140 He could do that.

02:22:03.760 Just like any, I suppose, any man could do anything.

02:22:09.120 I think answer right away.

02:22:10.280 That way you know what your subconscious goes into.

02:22:12.220 That's exactly.

02:22:12.820 Because subconsciously, you maybe had some past trauma, and that's going to answer it for you.

02:22:17.440 Well, that was kind of what I was thinking.

02:22:18.940 And I was like, it's interesting how they instantly go to the bear because they think the man's going to instantly hurt them.

02:22:24.120 Let's get answers.

02:22:24.860 Let's get answers.

02:22:25.740 Yeah, I'm on the same page.

02:22:26.800 I'm still on the fence right now.

02:22:28.060 And I think you're absolutely right.

02:22:29.440 Maybe we just have a certain perception of that.

02:22:33.240 But I also want to say that there is good men out there.

02:22:35.740 I'm not trying to say anything horrible.

02:22:38.320 There could be a great chance.

02:22:39.460 There's a great man in the woods.

02:22:40.840 I really, really, really, really love bears.

02:22:46.620 It's my favorite animal.

02:22:47.980 So it doesn't matter who I come in the woods.

02:22:50.260 If there's a bear, I'm going to choose a bear.

02:22:52.140 I don't care if it kills me.

02:22:53.740 I don't care if it kills me.

02:22:55.100 I'd love to just hug a bear.

02:22:57.160 And if it kills me, it kills me.

02:22:59.660 I used to cuddle with bears.

02:23:00.860 If you hug a bear, you will die.

02:23:02.320 No, I used to cuddle with bears.

02:23:04.040 I'm sorry.

02:23:04.440 A random bear in the woods will instantly kill you.

02:23:07.760 No, when I was a kid.

02:23:08.700 You cuddled with adult bears?

02:23:11.360 Yeah.

02:23:12.080 When you were a child, you cuddled with an adult bear.

02:23:14.460 Were they domesticated?

02:23:16.700 Were they domesticated?

02:23:17.600 No, they were in the woods.

02:23:18.780 Like in closed environments?

02:23:20.200 No, they were in the woods.

02:23:21.340 Your parents let you cuddle with a bear?

02:23:23.580 Well, they didn't know.

02:23:25.120 They didn't know I was in the woods.

02:23:28.180 How old were you?

02:23:29.400 Well, I was under 10.

02:23:31.700 I was like maybe like...

02:23:32.740 Is this back in Russia?

02:23:33.760 Yeah, yeah, that's back in Russia.

02:23:35.280 And again, we have bears just...

02:23:37.060 This is such a Russian story.

02:23:37.820 We have bears.

02:23:38.580 In my village and near my village...

02:23:43.300 What kind of bears were they?

02:23:44.160 Were they sun bears?

02:23:45.840 Were they drop bears?

02:23:47.360 Or what kind of bears were they?

02:23:49.080 I don't know.

02:23:50.440 They were like cute little brown bears.

02:23:53.400 And like one was really big.

02:23:55.720 Okay, so...

02:23:56.840 Okay, you've had anecdotal experience of, I guess, positive encounters with bears.

02:24:01.180 Yeah, and I just really, really love bears.

02:24:03.980 And I was asked like...

02:24:06.000 Wait, I have a question for you.

02:24:07.660 Yeah, okay.

02:24:08.100 What about in a room?

02:24:09.340 You have to be in a room for 10 minutes with a random man or a random bear?

02:24:12.160 A bear.

02:24:13.040 Okay.

02:24:13.480 I will happily die by a bear.

02:24:15.480 What?

02:24:16.260 Are you...

02:24:17.660 Do you have thoughts of hurting yourself?

02:24:18.960 No, I do not.

02:24:19.900 But I just really love bears.

02:24:20.980 You're just saying that in the worst case scenario, she would rather still have the worst case.

02:24:24.440 No, no, no.

02:24:25.100 No, it's not.

02:24:26.160 It's not.

02:24:26.540 She would pick...

02:24:26.940 Even if it was her brother, she would rather be in the woods alone with a random bear than

02:24:31.760 somebody who she knows and trusts.

02:24:33.040 Yeah, 100%.

02:24:34.480 I just feel...

02:24:35.200 I want to be near bears.

02:24:37.080 I want to have a pet bear one day.

02:24:38.940 It sounds like you're trying to die.

02:24:41.020 Like, that sounds...

02:24:42.080 But only by bear.

02:24:43.420 Suicide by bear.

02:24:44.760 Only bear.

02:24:45.700 Only bear.

02:24:46.700 Only bear, though.

02:24:47.560 This is...

02:24:48.640 Okay, and I've actually brought this up in the thing.

02:24:52.720 If it was other animal, I would choose a man 100,000%.

02:24:57.240 It's only because it's a bear.

02:24:59.480 She's so confident.

02:25:00.020 Is that what she's saying?

02:25:00.840 I highly understand.

02:25:01.340 Oh, I understand exactly what I'm putting in this situation.

02:25:03.540 No, I know, but she's saying control alt bear.

02:25:05.160 She's saying control alt bear.

02:25:06.420 Let's go.

02:25:07.040 Yeah, I don't care who I come across.

02:25:10.160 If there's a bear, I'm just a bear.

02:25:10.760 Okay, Kenya, I'll ask you one question.

02:25:12.640 Insane.

02:25:13.040 If you are put in a room with a really scary bear that's about to eat you, and you have

02:25:18.280 a door, would you run out?

02:25:20.960 Why are you thinking about this?

02:25:22.240 What do you mean?

02:25:22.940 Why are you thinking?

02:25:23.940 Well, I have to imagine.

02:25:24.900 I have to imagine.

02:25:26.240 I'm sorry.

02:25:26.700 If a bear is in this room...

02:25:28.580 Oh, hold on.

02:25:29.240 Just Gerald donated $200.

02:25:32.380 Ladies, for fuck's sake, bears are unfeeling, savage, hell beasts.

02:25:38.400 Hell beasts?

02:25:38.860 Leslie will hold you down, eat pieces off your face, tear off your arm at the elbow,

02:25:44.180 while you scream for help that never comes.

02:25:46.360 Wait, viewers in the chat, you guys have been over the past month or two, you've been sending

02:25:50.560 me a bunch of bear videos.

02:25:52.860 Send me what you have, but there's bear fight videos I've been seeing.

02:25:56.460 Can you send me...

02:25:57.100 Maybe there's this video where a bear, like, this door swings up, and there's, like, a

02:26:01.580 camera on a tripod, and the bear, like, comes out bolting out of this enclosure and just

02:26:08.340 basically speeds down, sprints down this camera.

02:26:13.420 If some of you know the clip I'm talking about, a bunch of you have sent it to me.

02:26:16.800 My Instagram, if you can just send it to the Instagram.

02:26:18.500 I think I want to finally show that video.

02:26:20.440 Um, I do have some clarification questions for you here.

02:26:24.660 Um, so, what, I, I don't know, I think I asked this previous show, right, the legality of

02:26:30.440 putting someone in a cage with a bear and paying them to do it?

02:26:33.540 So, I don't know if there's any lawyers in the chat.

02:26:35.800 Could I, I would be, so, would you be willing, you'd be willing then, I will put you in a cage

02:26:42.540 with a bear for 10 minutes.

02:26:45.500 We'll live stream it.

02:26:47.540 You have to sign a waiver that says, in the event of your death, you won't sue us, etc.

02:26:52.560 I don't think you can actually, people in the chat were saying you can't, uh, wave, wave

02:26:58.060 away your, uh, rights in this sort of way.

02:27:01.560 Like, you can't, like, let somebody kill you, basically.

02:27:04.900 Yeah, no, you can't, because there was that one, uh, the house of torture that tried to

02:27:09.180 do that.

02:27:09.720 Well, I don't know if that's the reason why, but.

02:27:11.300 Well, I didn't say the reason, but, like, that's why I heard it.

02:27:12.820 Legally, if you were, like, even if you signed a waiver and, you know, you were fine being

02:27:16.800 with the bear, but the bear ends up killing you, even though you're okay with that outcome,

02:27:21.560 um, I don't think legally, I think liability-wise, we would be in trouble.

02:27:26.540 Yeah.

02:27:26.940 And I think your stream would probably get, like, taken down immediately.

02:27:31.600 Especially if you put it in a cage.

02:27:33.260 Like, how about a nice little forest?

02:27:35.200 We can just, like, relax.

02:27:36.600 Well, you're just as safe in a cage with a bear.

02:27:38.280 Well, it has to be enclosed, yeah.

02:27:39.640 Well, I just don't want cages, like, why do you have to cage animals at all?

02:27:43.760 Okay, just a room, then.

02:27:44.760 Okay, we'll put you in a, um.

02:27:47.420 How about a nice big house so that we can.

02:27:50.860 How about put it in here?

02:27:51.620 So that way you're.

02:27:52.860 What kind of zoo?

02:27:53.880 Because some zoos are horrible to animals, and they do cage them.

02:27:56.500 Wait, you had, is this really, like, are you just, like, kind of having a joke?

02:28:00.280 Yeah.

02:28:01.060 Or is this, like, genuinely?

02:28:02.660 Like, give us your actual genuine, because I can't argue with, like, ridiculousness.

02:28:06.720 Every single time in the past, ever since I was a kid, like, I just love bears, okay?

02:28:12.260 Like, I think they're really cute.

02:28:14.320 And I can be scared.

02:28:15.540 But the thing is, is that it's, like, at this particular moment, if, you know, if I were

02:28:21.820 to be put in a cage with a bear, I personally wouldn't take it at this particular moment,

02:28:26.680 because I have people that I care about and who need me right now.

02:28:30.520 So I wouldn't put myself in that situation on purpose.

02:28:35.100 However, in this imaginary scenario, or if it were to happen where I encounter a bear,

02:28:41.420 I, like, yeah, I'm going to be cautious, because I know how to be around bears.

02:28:45.520 Like, I can, at least the ones that I've encountered in Russia, I can, I was able to read them fairly

02:28:50.900 well.

02:28:51.620 Like, they would huff, and they would, like, be really cute and, like, just, like, very,

02:28:57.260 I don't know, like, cuddly, like, and I would come up, and I would, like, I would give them

02:29:01.420 berries, and, like, who would, like, you know, I would have.

02:29:04.060 Okay, so let me, I want to see if I can test the logic here.

02:29:07.280 So, um.

02:29:08.740 But it's specifically the bears only.

02:29:10.720 Like, I, if it were any other animal, like, if it were a chimpanzee, I would take a man

02:29:15.860 any time.

02:29:17.480 Yeah, or, like, an ape.

02:29:18.540 What about a dog?

02:29:19.320 Have you ever seen those big-ass apes?

02:29:20.560 I would choose a man.

02:29:21.860 I don't really like dogs.

02:29:23.600 You've had more positive experiences with bears over dogs?

02:29:26.580 It's not a positive experience.

02:29:28.700 Well, I've had a lot of negative experiences with dogs, actually.

02:29:31.760 Well, sure, but, I mean.

02:29:33.740 So you're saying you'd rather choose a man over, like, a chihuahua?

02:29:36.240 Yeah.

02:29:37.160 Um.

02:29:38.180 Chihuahuas are really annoying.

02:29:39.620 Yeah, don't want chihuahua.

02:29:40.840 I'm sorry.

02:29:41.500 You're going to have either a random man or a random dog, and you would still choose,

02:29:46.920 I mean.

02:29:47.560 She said she would choose the man.

02:29:48.760 She would just rather choose a bear than a dog.

02:29:51.540 That's what she said.

02:29:52.900 Yeah.

02:29:53.320 I would pick the bear over the woman.

02:29:54.840 The bear would kill me, but the woman could claim S.A. and destroy my whole life.

02:29:58.980 Whoa.

02:30:00.080 Dang.

02:30:00.560 Would you, men, would you rather be in the forest with a bear or a woman who has a history of

02:30:06.540 false S.A. accusations?

02:30:09.040 I don't guess one's going to be a bear.

02:30:10.360 Which one, boys?

02:30:11.420 Which one?

02:30:12.900 Um.

02:30:15.340 Yeah.

02:30:16.400 Would you rather be in the forest with a bear or Amber Heard?

02:30:19.460 A bear.

02:30:20.020 Oh, my God.

02:30:21.400 Uh.

02:30:22.320 Okay.

02:30:22.680 See, everyone's changing their answers like a bear.

02:30:26.640 Still bear for you?

02:30:27.980 Still bear?

02:30:28.160 Uh, no.

02:30:29.360 I don't, I don't think a bear.

02:30:30.660 I mean, I.

02:30:31.200 Oh, you guys get a little pushback.

02:30:32.580 You get a little pushback.

02:30:33.660 No, just the reason that, the reason that, well, listen, we all know me, and I, well,

02:30:38.620 you know me at least, and I definitely never, rarely change my answers, but like, the reason

02:30:42.380 that I immediately went to bear was like, for the same interesting reason that she was trying

02:30:46.560 to point out, just had bad experiences.

02:30:49.880 And I would rather be alone in the woods with an animal that belongs in the woods than a

02:30:54.660 man with nobody around to see the way that he's going to behave if it's, if he has malicious

02:30:59.320 intent.

02:31:00.040 Now, if I'm strolling down like a, a path that's like, you know, it's, it's made for

02:31:05.860 hiking, then obviously I haven't done that before.

02:31:08.680 I grew up in Ohio where there's a shit ton of nature reserves and I've walked, walked

02:31:13.720 down paths and seen plenty of stranger, strangers and men that I don't think have malicious intent

02:31:18.880 right off the jump.

02:31:19.700 But I thought because you were putting in the context of like an animal that's like usually,

02:31:24.620 sorry, against your Russian bears, but usually aggressive, I thought you meant like an aggressive

02:31:30.380 man versus an aggressive animal.

02:31:32.320 I would rather be around an animal if the man has like ill intent because I would rather

02:31:37.680 die like a, a quick painful death than a seven day being tied up and who knows what he's doing

02:31:44.540 to me type of death.

02:31:46.000 But I didn't realize the context of like, it's just a random, any type of man, like it

02:31:50.680 could be you or, or my brother.

02:31:52.920 I didn't realize it was like that.

02:31:54.120 I thought it was like predominantly just like a bad man, but yeah, a bear or yeah, a man.

02:32:00.720 Sorry.

02:32:01.160 Huh.

02:32:01.460 Okay.

02:32:02.460 I would only choose one.

02:32:03.660 I do have, okay, so with this bear thing, Nick, do we have the video by the way?

02:32:10.520 I have the article up.

02:32:12.320 Oh, there's also, actually, yeah, let's do the article.

02:32:14.820 Okay.

02:32:17.580 Let's do, after 19 year old woman mauled to death, Romania authorizes the killing of nearly

02:32:22.720 500 bears.

02:32:24.720 So she got scrolled down.

02:32:26.940 This is an update to the original.

02:32:28.920 Okay.

02:32:29.300 Can you find the, there's a New York post.

02:32:31.000 We had it before.

02:32:32.040 If you type into the URL field, it should just pull up right away.

02:32:36.920 Let's see here.

02:32:39.940 Looking for, let's see.

02:32:43.340 Again, that's just super interesting to me how you guys like instantly, like no, no hate in

02:32:47.220 any way.

02:32:47.540 Just like how you guys instantly go to like vicious, like, oh, like.

02:32:50.860 Well, when you're putting it in terms of like a vicious animal being compared to a man,

02:32:55.040 you'd assume that the man is also going to be like.

02:32:57.780 I mean, I did.

02:32:58.880 It's just interesting how people like think about that stuff.

02:33:01.120 It's a trauma response probably more than anything.

02:33:03.600 It is.

02:33:03.620 It is.

02:33:03.900 Yeah.

02:33:04.660 Definitely.

02:33:05.140 I'm glad you don't have to understand something.

02:33:06.180 All right.

02:33:06.200 Teen mauled to death by bear in front of boyfriend while on hiking trip.

02:33:10.000 Oh, do they actually?

02:33:12.720 Are we going to watch a criminal mind episode after this team to get some.

02:33:16.740 Scroll down.

02:33:17.920 Scroll down.

02:33:19.540 Oh, hold on.

02:33:20.100 I'll just read this first part.

02:33:22.540 Tragically, she was on the phone to emergency services when the bear grabbed her leg and

02:33:26.840 dragged her off a 400 foot cliff.

02:33:31.660 Rescuer said Miss Diana's injuries were incompatible with life.

02:33:37.520 I don't know if you know what that means when your injuries are incompatible with life.

02:33:41.740 That means.

02:33:42.740 I don't understand that.

02:33:42.780 It's going to pieces.

02:33:43.800 And I'm not trying to be flippant about this.

02:33:45.380 Because you are like beyond repair.

02:33:49.940 Like you are.

02:33:51.200 You're so mauled.

02:33:52.120 You are squished.

02:33:52.680 Oh, yeah.

02:33:53.140 That's what happens.

02:33:54.120 Have you seen the documentary of the guy that lived with the bears in Alaska?

02:33:58.860 Nope.

02:33:59.500 I've heard about that.

02:34:00.220 It is a great documentary.

02:34:02.740 And he's documenting living with the bears.

02:34:05.660 And he's showing how they're part of his family now and how everything is.

02:34:09.720 Guess how it ends.

02:34:11.480 He dies.

02:34:12.000 He gets mauled by the bears.

02:34:13.980 Damn.

02:34:14.760 With his girlfriend.

02:34:15.920 Because he brought his girlfriend in at the end.

02:34:18.800 He said, come live with me in the woods.

02:34:20.400 And everything's great.

02:34:21.380 They're still bears.

02:34:24.360 They'll get hungry.

02:34:25.360 But they have footage of everything.

02:34:28.560 They're not supposed to be domesticated.

02:34:30.580 That's the thing.

02:34:30.900 You're going to skip forward like seven seconds, okay?

02:34:32.640 On this video.

02:34:33.820 But he was so confident he knew the bears.

02:34:37.380 Actually, skip forward five seconds.

02:34:39.280 But it's like you can't bring something new into an environment of a naturally wild animal.

02:34:46.580 Like that has been domesticated.

02:34:49.220 Like that's just, I feel like that's like common sense.

02:34:53.160 Like there was a story with a guy in like in New York who had like a crocodile or something.

02:34:58.480 And now like it attacked a cat that he brought in.

02:35:01.560 You can play it, Nick.

02:35:02.160 All right, guys, watch this shit.

02:35:04.180 Oh, wait.

02:35:04.580 Put us smaller.

02:35:11.100 Other side?

02:35:12.160 Yeah, just other side.

02:35:13.840 Okay, go ahead.

02:35:14.560 Oh, dang.

02:35:16.340 Oh, mute the audio.

02:35:19.220 Oh, dang.

02:35:20.680 Oh, dang.

02:35:22.840 All right.

02:35:23.540 Why was that bear in that tank?

02:35:26.640 It was restrained.

02:35:27.240 It was restrained.

02:35:27.400 It was restrained.

02:35:28.860 It looks like they were, they probably were rehabbing him and released him.

02:35:33.640 It looked like they were like, it looked like they were transporting him somewhere and that's

02:35:37.280 why they had him in that like enclosure.

02:35:38.060 Yeah, but like why is the key?

02:35:40.780 That was so fast, by the way.

02:35:42.680 Yeah, let's play it one more time.

02:35:43.640 Put the audio on but mute the, like lower the volume.

02:35:48.060 Okay, go ahead.

02:35:49.540 Oh, you want the audio on?

02:35:50.500 Audio on, just lower it.

02:35:51.980 Okay.

02:35:52.820 Just put it at 50.

02:35:53.700 I mean, like I would rather outrun a man than a bear.

02:35:56.500 Oh, you can't out a bear.

02:35:57.360 Exactly.

02:35:57.780 That's the point.

02:35:58.760 You would, don't get it.

02:35:59.700 Put it to five seconds.

02:36:01.800 Yeah, you can't.

02:36:02.600 I'm not staying off a bear.

02:36:03.740 No, no.

02:36:04.880 A little further.

02:36:05.620 Yeah, but what if the bear is more?

02:36:06.040 Okay, that's fine.

02:36:06.640 That's fine.

02:36:07.080 Just play it.

02:36:07.580 It looks so angry and like trapped.

02:36:18.240 Like it wanted to get away.

02:36:20.520 Like that's, it's a very hard bear.

02:36:23.660 Like it's a pain.

02:36:24.880 But also it's the point where it, the bear specifically went for the tripod.

02:36:29.700 He went for something.

02:36:30.540 He didn't run away.

02:36:31.280 What is she saying?

02:36:31.960 Yeah, and exactly.

02:36:32.860 Why?

02:36:33.260 Like why is the bear there in the first place though?

02:36:37.960 It's like, that's my question.

02:36:39.260 I want to know the story.

02:36:40.420 Why the bear was there?

02:36:41.680 What state the bear?

02:36:42.980 It doesn't matter.

02:36:43.840 I have a piece of advice for you.

02:36:45.200 That's just like, that's just like with the airport story.

02:36:48.000 We're going out of the woods.

02:36:49.820 We're going.

02:36:50.580 Oh, I love, well.

02:36:51.740 Oh, because of human intervention, that's why the bear was angry.

02:36:56.900 Okay, here's some bears in nature.

02:36:58.260 Well, I didn't say because of that.

02:36:59.800 I was just wanting to know the details.

02:37:02.280 We don't get details.

02:37:03.160 Well, just like the details of the airport situation.

02:37:05.600 We don't know the context of it.

02:37:06.880 A bear will fuck you up.

02:37:09.220 But so can a man, can a man, not whale, but could.

02:37:14.040 It's like you're pulling up the videos.

02:37:15.640 You could also pull up the amount of women that have been cut up.

02:37:20.060 Go ahead, pull that one up, private chat.

02:37:24.160 It's a real thing.

02:37:25.020 We're going to mute the audio on that one, and we'll skip forward a little bit.

02:37:28.840 But again, I would rather have a man than a bear.

02:37:31.780 Bump the audio all the way back up, but just.

02:37:34.060 I'd rather have neither.

02:37:35.020 I'd rather have a nice walk in the woods.

02:37:36.740 I don't know.

02:37:37.120 I'd rather have to see it.

02:37:37.620 I'm alone.

02:37:38.140 Not the nice walk.

02:37:39.580 Right?

02:37:41.160 Hold on.

02:37:42.340 Skip to 40?

02:37:46.340 I'm going to get some water.

02:37:47.600 40 seconds, yeah.

02:37:50.280 Can you get me some water?

02:37:51.440 Yeah.

02:37:51.600 Okay, put this on the other side, big.

02:37:55.080 Okay, hold on.

02:37:56.560 Pause it, pause it, pause it.

02:37:58.420 Thank you, Jimmy F.

02:37:58.980 I do want to play with fire and box a silverback, but I don't think you understand American bears.

02:38:04.780 Like raccoons, they are crafty and unpredictable.

02:38:08.280 Russians have videos of walking bears on the street.

02:38:13.420 Yeah.

02:38:13.960 Thank you, Jimmy F.

02:38:14.720 I appreciate it.

02:38:15.900 Yeah, and that's true.

02:38:17.040 Yeah.

02:38:17.300 I'm not denying that.

02:38:18.320 Okay, pull up the video, please.

02:38:24.740 But I also do raccoons in the back, so.

02:38:27.320 Okay.

02:38:28.060 Oh, I love raccoons.

02:38:29.180 Just right corner.

02:38:30.460 Yeah, okay.

02:38:31.100 Go ahead.

02:38:31.820 I've literally given food to raccoons.

02:38:34.300 All right.

02:38:35.380 Here's your bear.

02:38:37.900 Do they start soon?

02:38:39.140 Come on.

02:38:39.620 Yeah, it's right here.

02:38:42.040 There you go.

02:38:42.440 Those are grizzlies.

02:38:44.380 That's a grizzly bear.

02:38:45.680 Oh, my God.

02:38:46.260 Imagine if that was like a human, bro.

02:38:48.660 And so, as you see, this bear would, with its sharp, long claws, would destroy you.

02:38:59.680 This bear here, in this video, would just, you would be dead in a second.

02:39:04.980 You would be dead in a second.

02:39:06.120 And then it would start eating you.

02:39:07.100 Maybe you don't even die.

02:39:07.940 It just starts eating you.

02:39:09.080 Look at that.

02:39:09.760 Boom.

02:39:09.920 Well, they usually do kill the prey first, typically.

02:39:12.960 No, no.

02:39:13.720 They just start eating.

02:39:15.040 Aw, you bumped into the, okay, goddamn, bro.

02:39:17.560 All right.

02:39:18.120 Oh, sorry.

02:39:19.900 I mean, it kind of looked like they were just playing rough.

02:39:21.940 Yeah, I mean, that's about, huh?

02:39:24.320 It just kind of looked like they were playing rough.

02:39:26.640 Well, that's two bears.

02:39:27.940 Yeah, exactly.

02:39:28.660 He's talking about, he's talking about how, how that bear attacking the other bear would

02:39:35.560 affect a human if the person, if the other bear was a human.

02:39:38.340 Well, yeah, obviously.

02:39:39.280 They're playing around because there are two bears playing, yes.

02:39:41.760 But he's saying if they did that to a human, he would be dead.

02:39:44.920 Yeah, and I fully understand the consequences, which is why if, for some reason, that hypothetical

02:39:51.160 situation happened, I'd be okay with that specific hypothetical situation.

02:39:56.840 So, you sent a whole bunch of info in about this whole bear debate.

02:40:00.820 Oh, yeah.

02:40:01.360 But I don't even feel inclined, like it's such a...

02:40:03.820 What's the point?

02:40:04.480 I don't even think you're...

02:40:05.600 It's such a dumb answer.

02:40:08.720 I'm sorry.

02:40:09.560 Okay, but that was...

02:40:10.620 I'm not even going to debate it with you, because it's not going to be a good thing.

02:40:14.320 It's not even a good thing.

02:40:15.260 And that was my point.

02:40:16.340 And that was my point, is that you can't just ask a man or a bear.

02:40:20.560 You have to ask about what is like your biggest fear, and would you rather be with your biggest

02:40:26.400 fear or a man?

02:40:28.280 That's different.

02:40:29.360 Yeah, but...

02:40:29.940 That's very different.

02:40:30.580 But the thing is that to me, like, it's not, because for some women, it would still be a

02:40:35.520 man would be their biggest fear.

02:40:36.320 So are you trying to ask, like, a more psychological question like this?

02:40:40.380 Like, what is your deepest fear?

02:40:41.240 I just...

02:40:41.800 I personally just don't relate to the bear versus man situation, and actually the original

02:40:46.340 creator...

02:40:46.600 So let's say it's a lion instead of a bear.

02:40:48.620 I will choose a man.

02:40:49.660 She said any other animal.

02:40:50.520 Any other animal.

02:40:51.440 I will choose a bear.

02:40:52.220 We're just going in circles.

02:40:53.160 Her answer is her answer.

02:40:53.960 She's not going to change it.

02:40:54.580 But, okay, you...

02:40:55.200 I just personally like bears, so it's like there's no arguing with that part.

02:40:59.720 But you like...

02:41:00.680 Okay, you like bears, but do you have, like...

02:41:04.420 Do you have a thorough understanding of the risk of being in proximity to a bear, despite

02:41:10.700 your anecdotal experience?

02:41:12.640 Anecdotal.

02:41:13.080 Okay.

02:41:13.940 That's precisely what it is.

02:41:15.120 Anecdotal.

02:41:15.640 You had experiences with bears where you were not harmed.

02:41:18.500 Yes.

02:41:18.920 You've also had experiences with men where you were not harmed.

02:41:21.260 And a lot more experiences with men where I was harmed than with bears.

02:41:25.120 Have you had as many per capita experiences with men as you've had with bears?

02:41:30.660 How many men have you walked past in your entire life?

02:41:33.360 Hundreds of thousands?

02:41:35.000 Yeah.

02:41:36.300 Yeah, I mean...

02:41:37.440 Yeah, that's true.

02:41:38.920 How many actual bears have you encountered?

02:41:41.300 Like, how many different times?

02:41:44.880 Well, okay, it does have to be the same bear or, like, different bears?

02:41:49.060 Because there was a family...

02:41:50.280 You can answer both.

02:41:51.180 Okay, because...

02:41:51.940 The same bear, you hung out with them multiple times?

02:41:54.060 Multiple times.

02:41:55.020 How many times?

02:41:55.500 How many times?

02:41:56.000 I would say, like, at least, like, all throughout the summer and a little bit into the fall.

02:42:03.520 Were these wild bears?

02:42:05.220 Yeah, they were in the woods.

02:42:06.460 They were living in the woods.

02:42:07.560 And at some point, I actually found where exactly they lived.

02:42:11.480 I just didn't go near it because I know better.

02:42:14.280 Oh, wait, wait, wait.

02:42:15.240 Did you ever take a picture or record?

02:42:16.920 Wait, hold on.

02:42:17.600 No, I was a kid.

02:42:18.280 You said you didn't go near.

02:42:20.400 Near the actual, like, where they sleep because, like, again, animals or bears are wild animals still.

02:42:27.100 And you still have to be cautious.

02:42:28.600 That's interesting.

02:42:29.060 So, if you were to walk up to a frat house and you knocked on the door and you just asked for direction somewhere,

02:42:36.320 do you think you'd be more safe just walking up to a frat house that's fully occupied by perhaps over a dozen men

02:42:42.220 or going up to the bear cave?

02:42:45.100 I wouldn't do either because I don't feel safe.

02:42:48.060 Which one would be safer to do?

02:42:53.140 Be for real.

02:42:54.420 Okay, it would depend.

02:42:56.300 Are there cubs involved?

02:42:59.180 Are there cubs involved?

02:43:00.160 Because the mothers are vicious.

02:43:02.340 Hold on.

02:43:03.140 You just already conceded.

02:43:04.620 You said the words that came out of your mouth.

02:43:06.560 You knew better than to go near their territory.

02:43:10.120 And I know better than to go near a frat house.

02:43:13.120 I was never near a man's.

02:43:15.600 Okay, cool.

02:43:16.060 But do you think you knock on a frat house?

02:43:18.560 That's an insta-murder.

02:43:20.240 You think it's an insta-murder if you knock on a frat house?

02:43:23.240 I'm just not going to knock on a frat house.

02:43:24.640 How about just a normal, you knock on someone's door?

02:43:27.660 Neighborhood.

02:43:28.020 I will not knock on people's.

02:43:30.480 In America, I will not.

02:43:32.200 No one's asking you to go do it.

02:43:32.860 They're just asking you for a hypothetical answer.

02:43:34.280 Which one would be more dangerous?

02:43:35.900 Okay, fine.

02:43:36.660 I'll even grant you.

02:43:37.880 The bear has its cubs.

02:43:39.360 And then the man has two children.

02:43:41.540 Okay, then I will go to a man.

02:43:43.100 In fact, wouldn't you say that a man who has two children and you can see them through the window, wouldn't he be safer to knock on?

02:43:49.960 Yeah, no.

02:43:50.540 And that's what I said.

02:43:51.680 I will go to the man because I know how bears are with their cubs.

02:43:56.040 They're vicious.

02:43:57.260 Okay, so let's say it's bears without cubs.

02:43:59.860 Then I would.

02:44:01.480 Well, if there were children with the man.

02:44:03.860 Flat out.

02:44:04.380 No, flat out.

02:44:05.040 If it's a bear, if it's two bears in a cave in their home and it's a man, it's a frat house, which would you choose?

02:44:11.000 Two bears.

02:44:12.240 That's insane.

02:44:12.920 They're still going to attack you even if there's not cubs involved.

02:44:15.620 You're not telling the truth, though.

02:44:16.800 You're just saying.

02:44:17.560 You guys, you just want to clear.

02:44:18.600 No.

02:44:19.080 Yeah.

02:44:19.820 Okay.

02:44:20.380 Okay, but like what is the truth?

02:44:22.580 There's no truth because I wouldn't be an either one of those.

02:44:25.360 Wait, question.

02:44:25.440 Shark or two dudes in a boat?

02:44:30.120 And you're in the ocean.

02:44:31.520 Two dudes in a boat.

02:44:33.220 Okay.

02:44:35.220 She said any other animal.

02:44:36.280 Oh, you picked the two.

02:44:36.840 Yeah, she said any other animal she wouldn't want to go towards.

02:44:40.720 She has her opinion.

02:44:41.880 It's specifically just the bear thing to me.

02:44:44.540 That's it.

02:44:45.120 Wait, can you pull up that video, the boat video?

02:44:48.520 So there are these two women who were like.

02:44:51.260 Pull it up next.

02:44:52.380 Not the boat video.

02:44:53.240 I'll tell you where to skip around.

02:44:55.860 Just go ahead.

02:44:56.800 Yes, please.

02:44:58.740 Okay.

02:44:59.380 What are you saying?

02:45:00.400 I think I saw this.

02:45:01.860 Go ahead.

02:45:02.200 Press play.

02:45:02.860 You can use the arrows to move it.

02:45:05.120 Sure.

02:45:05.880 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

02:45:19.460 You missed it.

02:45:20.200 You guys okay?

02:45:20.800 Oh, wait.

02:45:21.840 Yeah.

02:45:25.140 You guys okay?

02:45:26.200 Are you in trouble?

02:45:26.820 We need help.

02:45:27.760 We need help.

02:45:28.660 She said we need help.

02:45:29.360 We're getting you.

02:45:30.600 Go ahead.

02:45:30.880 Take this.

02:45:31.320 Take this camera.

02:45:33.900 So somehow these girls are swimming in the middle of the ocean.

02:45:38.720 We got a ladder and everything.

02:45:41.520 Men.

02:45:42.240 Men alone on a boat.

02:45:44.380 They probably have knives.

02:45:45.700 They probably have fishing knives.

02:45:48.600 Super dangerous.

02:45:49.700 Super dangerous.

02:45:50.280 I would rather be with them than in the ocean in the middle of nowhere.

02:45:54.000 Yeah.

02:45:56.100 It's, it's again about.

02:45:57.600 But again, those are average men.

02:45:58.980 You don't know if they're going to kill you.

02:46:01.240 But that's not my fear.

02:46:03.460 Go in there.

02:46:04.420 Warm.

02:46:04.820 Warm.

02:46:05.420 Warm.

02:46:05.760 I just like.

02:46:06.700 Okay.

02:46:07.580 Hold on.

02:46:09.280 Oh my God.

02:46:10.140 Thank God we saw you.

02:46:12.620 Oh my God.

02:46:13.440 Get inside, guys.

02:46:14.680 Yeah.

02:46:15.720 So, so, so they were probably like a couple minutes.

02:46:20.280 Minutes away from death.

02:46:21.840 Yeah.

02:46:22.220 And here you had some men coming to rescue them.

02:46:25.480 They're fantastic men.

02:46:27.520 I'm so happy that, that they're saved.

02:46:29.800 And I, if I were in that situation, I would gladly go on the boat because I do not want

02:46:34.200 to be alone in the middle of the ocean.

02:46:35.980 Yeah.

02:46:36.100 But what if somebody, so what if you heard a girl say she'd rather be swimming with a

02:46:40.920 shark than just like have two men in the boat go by her?

02:46:43.920 Then she has had a bad experience.

02:46:46.720 Very bad.

02:46:47.280 Okay.

02:46:47.780 Well, hold on.

02:46:48.780 Well, let's, I'll even grant you.

02:46:50.560 Because again, it's about the fear of what are you afraid more of?

02:46:54.460 So let me just, let me just even grant you that, yes, the woman had a bad experience.

02:46:59.180 You still don't think she's actually like our slurred brain dead to pick two men in

02:47:03.820 a boat over a shark?

02:47:06.140 Depends how broken she is.

02:47:07.840 Yeah.

02:47:08.320 It, it honestly depends.

02:47:10.160 Like, I don't know what's going on in her mind.

02:47:12.340 It's like, I just love bears.

02:47:14.380 Maybe she just lost sharks.

02:47:15.300 Then why do we live in a society like this?

02:47:17.740 If people are literally choosing animals that will kill them over.

02:47:21.700 It's sad.

02:47:22.520 She's based, by the way.

02:47:23.660 You're super based.

02:47:24.360 Thank you.

02:47:24.940 Thank you.

02:47:25.340 She's super based.

02:47:25.920 No, but it's like, I.

02:47:26.760 No, no, no.

02:47:27.120 That's ridiculous.

02:47:28.800 Are you, like, I'm sorry.

02:47:29.960 Like, just, I mean, like, okay, you have your opinion.

02:47:32.080 But like, you're saying you would choose to go with bears over random men?

02:47:37.280 I personally like bears.

02:47:39.220 Okay.

02:47:39.520 If you put a chimpanzee, if you say a chimpanzee, I will choose a man every time.

02:47:45.100 I mean, we're just choosing.

02:47:45.700 It's about what you like, what you don't like.

02:47:48.240 Yeah, we're beating a dead horse.

02:47:49.680 A bear, a bear is a metaphor.

02:47:52.440 And so, forget it's a bear.

02:47:54.100 It's a metaphor.

02:47:55.380 Okay, but.

02:47:56.040 We don't have to think about bears.

02:47:57.440 Which is why, which is why I'm saying, if it's any other animal, I will choose the man.

02:48:02.060 It's your fear over your other.

02:48:04.000 And that's actually exactly what I said to him.

02:48:07.040 It's about the fear.

02:48:08.060 What are you more afraid of?

02:48:09.620 Some women will still say that they're more afraid of men.

02:48:13.340 Yeah, because of their trauma.

02:48:14.200 Yes, exactly.

02:48:15.680 Of experience with men.

02:48:16.060 And that's literally it.

02:48:17.680 Wait, I have a question.

02:48:18.460 So, it's justified, then?

02:48:21.020 What's justified?

02:48:21.820 A woman had a bad experience with a man, ergo.

02:48:24.620 It's not justified, no.

02:48:26.540 Her past trauma is justification to have this sort of negative bias towards all men.

02:48:30.960 No, no, no, no, no.

02:48:31.700 It's not about a justification.

02:48:33.500 It's about the fear.

02:48:34.880 Because, again, if it's an actual would you rather.

02:48:38.760 The fear is irrational.

02:48:39.560 I don't think people can control that.

02:48:41.200 Comparatively.

02:48:41.560 And fear is irrational.

02:48:43.680 Okay, I'm not trying to.

02:48:45.080 Fear is always irrational.

02:48:46.480 Often it is.

02:48:47.320 If I have a bad experience or even like a traumatizing experience with one, maybe even ten men,

02:48:55.180 then I'm not going to have that same, like, if that man, if that man is around me versus

02:49:02.400 a bear, then maybe, of course, I'll be more, like, steered towards the bear if I know that

02:49:07.900 the man is somebody that's already hurt me or other people.

02:49:10.320 Correct?

02:49:10.540 But, like, just using the stigmatism, oh, I've been hurt in the past or I've been a victim

02:49:16.760 in the past, which I can say because I have been there, that doesn't just, like, that doesn't

02:49:22.300 just acknowledge all men that are there.

02:49:23.920 No, I think it's a degree of trauma.

02:49:27.520 We can't just talk about trauma in general.

02:49:28.620 No, I get it.

02:49:28.920 That's why my first instinct was to go with the bear.

02:49:33.480 But then I realized that it wasn't technically a malicious man.

02:49:37.180 It could be, but it's not just over-scheme.

02:49:38.900 I think we both had the pretense of that because that was in our head.

02:49:42.040 And no matter what the argument is on both sides, because I respect both sides, I think

02:49:45.940 this rant was just completely off track from what the actual conversation was about.

02:49:51.420 And I just feel like it kind of diminishes, actually, everyone's point that they're trying

02:49:55.380 to get across.

02:49:56.040 I think, like, if a woman was maybe kidnapped by a man, her whole life was tortured by a

02:50:01.520 man.

02:50:01.720 And then when she was, like, 35, she finally got out.

02:50:06.060 And maybe she'll never want to be around men again.

02:50:09.260 Well, hold on.

02:50:10.080 By the way, Chris, thank you for that.

02:50:12.240 So, if I just grant that absolutely women have traumatic experiences with men, let's add

02:50:18.320 another variable to this.

02:50:19.540 Let's add another identity marker to this.

02:50:23.180 If a woman has negative experience with somebody who belongs to a certain racial group, does

02:50:27.760 that give her justification to then be fearful of all people who belong to said racial group?

02:50:34.220 No, because it's not about being fearful of all men.

02:50:37.840 It's about that specific situation.

02:50:40.240 He didn't specifically say men.

02:50:41.840 He said in general.

02:50:43.420 Yeah, and that's what I'm talking about.

02:50:45.860 You said men.

02:50:46.660 No, that's wrong because it's categorizing, like, a group of people under a negative context

02:50:53.520 that you had with one specific person of that race.

02:50:56.040 That's not fair to, like, diminish an entire group of civil rights.

02:50:59.220 But I think it's hard to be so black and white because you can't control your response to your own

02:51:04.940 trauma, right?

02:51:06.260 You can't just...

02:51:07.260 Sometimes.

02:51:08.140 But, yeah, I mean, of course it's not a healthy way to live to just completely, you know,

02:51:13.660 be fearful of one group of people or the other or whatever.

02:51:17.120 That's just simply not okay to, like, completely put this entire pressure on just one group of people at all, ever.

02:51:24.840 And, again, I'm not saying that it is justifiable in any way, but it's just, to some women, they would still, like, if it was, like, their...

02:51:34.080 To some women, their biggest fear are men because we don't know.

02:51:38.020 It's extremely sad.

02:51:38.880 It is.

02:51:39.780 But it does not mean that it is all women's fear.

02:51:43.340 It doesn't mean that that's what all women think.

02:51:45.540 And, in fact, we have all agreed that, you know, bear example aside, if it was a vicious animal or a man, all of us would choose a man over a vicious animal.

02:51:58.260 And that was my key point.

02:52:00.300 I was not going to go into the whole bear thing because, again, my whole point is that it's not about the bear.

02:52:06.060 It's about what you're afraid of the most.

02:52:11.360 Okay, that's not...

02:52:12.540 Actually, no.

02:52:14.240 Can I keep it?

02:52:15.060 You can put it on top of your microphone.

02:52:16.860 It's a toy.

02:52:17.160 I love spiders.

02:52:19.460 Watch out.

02:52:19.820 Watch out.

02:52:20.580 Yay.

02:52:21.880 That was amazing, by the way.

02:52:23.220 That was so freaking funny.

02:52:24.840 The spider thing?

02:52:25.740 That was highlight of the show by there.

02:52:27.140 I'm not going to lie.

02:52:27.500 I was hoping for somebody to freak out, but nobody...

02:52:30.300 I love spiders.

02:52:31.780 I'm a spooky girl.

02:52:33.420 Was there a little...

02:52:34.780 She went...

02:52:35.640 She was a little...

02:52:36.280 There's a little flinch?

02:52:37.220 There's a little flinch.

02:52:37.920 She walked away.

02:52:38.760 She walked away because she didn't like it.

02:52:39.880 You're right.

02:52:41.040 She did...

02:52:41.640 She didn't like it.

02:52:44.140 Because of the spider?

02:52:45.220 Yeah, she was.

02:52:46.080 Any of you noticed that?

02:52:47.080 Yeah, I just tried to say that a couple times.

02:52:48.740 Oh, well, isn't her leg hurt or something?

02:52:51.120 You did get a reaction.

02:52:53.320 No, she was very anxious.

02:52:55.360 Yeah, did she do that too?

02:52:56.180 I think she might have left.

02:52:57.680 No.

02:52:58.020 No, she's in the restroom.

02:52:58.580 I don't know.

02:52:59.900 I think we're over...

02:53:00.500 I think we're overthinking this.

02:53:01.900 I don't...

02:53:02.080 Did she close the restroom door or the...

02:53:03.380 Like, leave the room.

02:53:06.180 Oh, okay.

02:53:08.140 Hopefully she's...

02:53:08.640 Because of the spider?

02:53:09.360 Yeah.

02:53:09.840 She didn't like that.

02:53:10.100 Oh, it was a spider?

02:53:10.720 Yeah, she didn't like that.

02:53:11.560 She didn't like that.

02:53:11.600 She went to the bathroom.

02:53:13.000 I think we're overthinking.

02:53:13.980 I don't know.

02:53:14.060 You guys...

02:53:14.600 How about we ask her when she comes back?

02:53:16.020 Yeah, that's a good idea.

02:53:16.720 No, I genuinely heard her.

02:53:18.880 I'm going to read a couple Super Chats here.

02:53:21.500 We have...

02:53:23.220 Actually, I'll have you read it.

02:53:24.420 Go ahead.

02:53:25.100 You get reading privileges.

02:53:26.540 Let's go.

02:53:27.760 Brian, would you reproduce with a girl that would leave you and make you pay child support

02:53:32.160 for years or reproduce with a praying mantis?

02:53:36.540 Okay.

02:53:37.520 J.P. Belly.

02:53:38.960 Thank you for the Canadian 200.

02:53:39.920 One J.P. Belly one.

02:53:40.960 Thank you.

02:53:41.400 I think that's enough to buy me a hot dog.

02:53:43.420 Thank you for the 200 Canadian there.

02:53:44.920 Thank you.

02:53:46.720 So, basically, is it bestiality to have sex with a bug?

02:53:51.400 Well, yes.

02:53:52.300 Yeah, it's an animal.

02:53:53.200 Oh, you genuinely mean a praying mantis?

02:53:54.980 I thought that was like a slur for something else.

02:53:58.140 Also, if you can do that with a praying mantis, then you've got a problem.

02:54:02.540 How about we have Brian answer?

02:54:04.440 It's not literal.

02:54:05.420 You guys...

02:54:05.860 Brian?

02:54:06.580 What would you like?

02:54:07.420 What would you do?

02:54:08.200 I'm assuming there's no criminal liability in this question for...

02:54:12.280 It's in a video game.

02:54:13.520 Hypothetically.

02:54:14.040 In a video game, of course.

02:54:15.080 Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to...

02:54:17.580 I don't know how I would go about that, but yeah, I think I'd have to go with the bug.

02:54:24.140 You know the praying mantis kills the mate as soon as you're done having the mating.

02:54:28.700 Yeah, you know a female praying mantis tears the head off and then eats the man.

02:54:31.800 Yeah, but I'm assuming it's like a normal-sized praying mantis.

02:54:34.400 Yeah, but if you're able to actually conceive with the praying mantis, then you're obviously

02:54:39.480 not a normal-sized man, so you're the same size as a praying mantis, or the praying mantis

02:54:43.320 is the same size as you.

02:54:44.140 I'm pretty sure I could fuck a praying mantis.

02:54:46.540 Are you this big?

02:54:47.540 What does that have to do?

02:54:48.900 I don't know.

02:54:49.760 It's hypothetical.

02:54:50.600 Same thing with the bear in the woods and the man.

02:54:52.440 Yeah, but just so you know, when a praying mantis does have sex, it actually does tear

02:54:56.500 off the man's head.

02:54:57.380 He doesn't say anything about, wait, but I have to reproduce?

02:55:03.140 Oh, it's just, no, not just have sex.

02:55:05.880 Reproduce.

02:55:06.340 Would you rather die or do the other thing?

02:55:08.380 Have a child.

02:55:08.560 No, I wouldn't die.

02:55:09.840 I wouldn't die.

02:55:10.360 You would die.

02:55:11.120 A praying mantis would take your head off.

02:55:13.700 That's what they do.

02:55:14.880 I'm my size.

02:55:15.980 It doesn't specify anything about, you get shrunk down, you're the same size as a praying

02:55:19.920 mantis.

02:55:20.280 It's hypothetical.

02:55:21.020 No, no, no.

02:55:21.600 The hypothetical is, I could reproduce.

02:55:23.460 So you're going to sperm donor it.

02:55:24.760 You can't reproduce that a praying mantis would have to be also a praying mantis.

02:55:29.260 No.

02:55:29.740 I mean, that's not the way you're not saying that.

02:55:31.440 Hold on.

02:55:32.140 In the super chat, he is granting that in this world, I can have a hybrid human praying

02:55:38.740 mantis child.

02:55:39.720 That's cool.

02:55:40.380 So, yes, between having to get child support screwed over.

02:55:47.780 Ulysses, the pagan donated $200.

02:55:50.460 Many women that never have been SA will still choose the bear.

02:55:53.900 Why?

02:55:54.520 Because of feminism, indoctrination, and brainwash that all men are predators.

02:55:59.780 The spider had ill intentions.

02:56:02.020 Indeed.

02:56:02.860 Indeed.

02:56:03.620 Okay.

02:56:04.160 All right.

02:56:04.840 So, I wonder, chat, chat, what do you pick?

02:56:08.680 The praying mantis or 18 years of child support?

02:56:12.020 Also, why would you get in a relationship with a woman that would do that?

02:56:15.760 Well, you don't know.

02:56:17.140 That would leave.

02:56:18.480 You wouldn't know.

02:56:19.220 You left.

02:56:20.540 Why did I leave?

02:56:21.580 The guy you were dating.

02:56:23.340 Oh, yeah.

02:56:24.480 Oh, okay.

02:56:24.860 That's valid.

02:56:25.300 But I don't have a kid with him.

02:56:26.560 Yeah, no, that's true.

02:56:27.460 But you never know.

02:56:29.340 I mean, you get into a relationship.

02:56:30.680 Sometimes things don't work out.

02:56:31.720 That's valid.

02:56:32.480 Boys, what do you pick?

02:56:33.340 Praying mantis or 18 years of child support?

02:56:35.460 What do you pick?

02:56:36.240 I pick the praying mantis.

02:56:37.780 All right.

02:56:38.380 Digital vagrant.

02:56:40.020 Ted Bundy nullifies this argument.

02:56:41.640 The average man is so scary, a woman will never be around them.

02:56:45.560 But Bundy is a different story.

02:56:47.940 Actually, last thing on the whole bear thing.

02:56:52.560 I know you guys kind of shifted your answers a little bit.

02:56:55.720 But you guys have had quite a few romantic partners, if you catch my drift.

02:57:03.280 Yes, sir.

02:57:03.820 And you're alone in a room with them, if you catch my drift.

02:57:06.300 But yes, sir.

02:57:08.980 It's just the same women that will say they'd rather be with a bear will willingly go home

02:57:13.280 with the guy they just met and allow that man to be inside of them.

02:57:17.100 I just find that interesting.

02:57:18.240 Maddie, take over for a few minutes.

02:57:19.580 Listen, I changed my answer.

02:57:21.760 Let the record show I changed my answer.

02:57:26.340 It's a trauma thing, guys.

02:57:28.360 Look what it says.

02:57:33.220 Yeah.

02:57:33.660 I'm pretty sure praying mantis, well, if you're reproducing, that would include sex.

02:57:40.100 So you would have to have sex with the praying mantis.

02:57:41.880 That's what I'm saying, bro.

02:57:42.440 Therefore, it would have to rip your head off.

02:57:44.320 I did not know that.

02:57:45.420 That's what I'm saying.

02:57:46.240 No, it dead asses.

02:57:47.020 You can look it up.

02:57:47.580 It really is.

02:57:48.160 They do it so that way they have nutrients from the male to help their baby.

02:57:56.020 Beans kind of have a similar thing, right?

02:57:58.620 Yeah.

02:57:59.280 And by the way, it's not a praying mantis.

02:58:01.900 It is a praying, P-R-E-Y-I-N-G, mantis, because they pray.

02:58:08.540 Get up.

02:58:10.680 What are your guys' main red flags?

02:58:13.820 Start here.

02:58:14.440 Go around that.

02:58:15.460 Main red flags?

02:58:16.840 Or should we switch the question and say, like, a red flag you would ignore if the guy

02:58:22.420 was hot enough?

02:58:23.160 That's an interesting one.

02:58:25.140 Wait, let me read.

02:58:25.680 Red flag of ignore the guy was hot.

02:58:26.920 If the guy was hot enough.

02:58:30.300 Fuck, I don't know.

02:58:33.040 Yeah, also speak into the mic.

02:58:35.020 I don't know.

02:58:36.020 Wait, can you skip me?

02:58:36.900 I got to think.

02:58:37.660 We can come back to you.

02:58:38.460 I know, I know, I know.

02:58:39.200 Wait, can we go back to the first question?

02:58:40.600 That one's easier.

02:58:40.900 Okay, we'll just go with the first question then.

02:58:43.320 What, like, what?

02:58:45.040 Say it again.

02:58:45.360 Just the red flag.

02:58:46.620 A red flag that you would ignore if they were hot enough.

02:58:49.260 I like reframed it.

02:58:49.280 We're going back to the first question.

02:58:50.900 Just a red flag in general.

02:58:51.880 Our own red flag?

02:58:52.340 I think.

02:58:53.040 Yeah.

02:58:55.660 I believe that's what it was in it, because I don't think any of us have answers.

02:59:00.740 Did you ask the question?

02:59:01.660 Woo!

02:59:01.860 Yeah, I did.

02:59:02.920 But then we went back.

02:59:03.800 Is this like a...

02:59:05.340 We went to the first one.

02:59:07.060 Yeah.

02:59:07.720 Well, the question just got switched twice, so I didn't understand which one she wanted

02:59:11.260 us to answer.

02:59:11.880 Well, would you ignore a red flag if a guy was hot enough?

02:59:16.160 Yeah.

02:59:16.640 What red flag?

02:59:17.000 But it's the first date?

02:59:19.200 All of them.

02:59:20.000 She's like, red's my favorite color.

02:59:21.600 I know.

02:59:22.040 Literally.

02:59:23.360 I don't know.

02:59:23.960 Okay.

02:59:24.260 Is it on the first date, though?

02:59:26.160 Actually, hold on.

02:59:27.660 We have to go right into this question.

02:59:29.940 Stifler, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.

02:59:33.640 You can't pick seven.

02:59:35.160 Your looks.

02:59:36.000 Scale of one to ten.

02:59:37.260 Starting with you.

02:59:38.240 Go ahead.

02:59:38.460 I prefer not to rate myself.

02:59:40.140 That feels weird.

02:59:40.940 I don't want to do that for a man.

02:59:42.720 Wait, hold on.

02:59:43.240 Weird to be asked by a guy.

02:59:44.820 Do it!

02:59:46.160 Just do it!

02:59:49.640 Don't let your dreams be dreams.

02:59:52.720 Yesterday, you said tomorrow.

02:59:54.720 So just do it!

02:59:56.460 I like the song.

02:59:56.780 Make your dreams come true!

02:59:59.520 Just do it!

03:00:00.920 Such an old name.

03:00:02.400 It's still so good, though, even though it's old.

03:00:04.160 Some people dream a success while you're going to wake up and work hard at it.

03:00:08.220 Nothing is impossible!

03:00:09.960 Dang.

03:00:10.300 I don't think I've ever seen the full version.

03:00:11.920 I feel like you're going to reach to the point where anyone else would quit.

03:00:15.300 You're not going to stop there!

03:00:16.340 I need to run out with the door and go do something.

03:00:17.680 No!

03:00:18.220 What are you waiting for?

03:00:19.380 Let me go to the gym, guys.

03:00:20.660 Do it!

03:00:23.460 Just!

03:00:24.480 I'm trying to kiss the...

03:00:25.460 Do it!

03:00:26.520 Yes, you can!

03:00:28.440 Just do it!

03:00:30.000 Oh, other way.

03:00:31.220 Oh, wait.

03:00:31.980 I don't know.

03:00:32.480 It's weird.

03:00:33.140 It's weird.

03:00:33.400 Are you trying to kiss him?

03:00:33.980 Yeah, I was trying to.

03:00:35.280 I was like, what is happening?

03:00:36.960 I was trying to give him a little smooch.

03:00:37.380 He seemed a little angry.

03:00:38.480 I was trying to give him a smooch.

03:00:40.880 Just do it!

03:00:43.940 Yes, you can!

03:00:46.400 Okay, go ahead.

03:00:47.120 Answer the question.

03:00:48.200 I'm not going to rate myself.

03:00:49.820 Like, what?

03:00:52.200 You're a 10.

03:00:53.300 It's okay.

03:00:53.740 I'll go.

03:00:54.220 I was going to say myself and every other woman in this room is a 10.

03:00:57.240 Wait, you can't.

03:00:57.840 Hold on.

03:00:58.220 You've got to rate yourself.

03:00:59.100 You can't just not do the question.

03:01:02.600 What?

03:01:02.920 Yeah, you can't just not answer the question.

03:01:05.880 Well, I don't want to be rated.

03:01:07.240 I would rate myself.

03:01:08.280 Yeah, that's the question.

03:01:10.600 What?

03:01:11.360 How about someone else starts?

03:01:13.340 And then we go back.

03:01:14.060 Okay, we'll come back to you.

03:01:15.740 Go ahead.

03:01:17.040 I would say I'm a 10 and everyone else is a 10 in here.

03:01:19.940 Everyone else is a 10?

03:01:20.900 Yeah, to me, in my eyes, yes.

03:01:22.260 Even the guys?

03:01:23.500 Yes.

03:01:25.880 Not.

03:01:28.860 Let's go, Ryan.

03:01:29.060 Even you, Ryan.

03:01:29.800 Round of applause for the boys.

03:01:30.860 Round of applause.

03:01:31.600 Okay, so 10 and everybody is a 10.

03:01:36.240 Okay, what about you?

03:01:37.100 Nine.

03:01:37.960 Nine?

03:01:38.920 Is everybody a nine?

03:01:42.200 Everyone's a 10.

03:01:43.640 I just...

03:01:44.240 But you're...

03:01:44.740 Everyone's a 10, but you're a nine.

03:01:46.580 I'm...

03:01:47.260 Because of some medication, I'm just having a little acne.

03:01:50.200 When that goes away, I will be a 10 again.

03:01:52.660 What did you rate yourself last time?

03:01:54.780 Nine.

03:01:55.280 It's still a nine.

03:01:56.060 Okay.

03:01:56.280 But once you're done with the medication, what are you taking now?

03:01:59.480 What's the acne medication called?

03:02:01.360 Accutane.

03:02:01.860 Are you on Accutane?

03:02:02.860 No, I'm on very strong antibiotics because it's due to other medication.

03:02:08.640 Huh.

03:02:09.080 I'm very chronically ill.

03:02:11.180 So you would be a 10...

03:02:13.020 I have the best face scrub if you want me to just give it to you after.

03:02:15.800 Just saying.

03:02:16.140 I don't think that's going to help her, but...

03:02:17.280 No, it can.

03:02:18.780 Shots fired.

03:02:19.380 Here, I'll block the shots.

03:02:22.560 Oh, wow.

03:02:22.780 I'll block the shots.

03:02:23.780 I got you.

03:02:25.540 Okay.

03:02:26.060 So once you're done with the medication, you'll be a 10.

03:02:30.960 If it goes away, yeah.

03:02:32.100 If your acne was cleared up right now, you would be a 10.

03:02:35.420 Yeah.

03:02:35.700 Okay.

03:02:36.180 What about you?

03:02:37.160 I think I'm like a six or a seven.

03:02:41.020 Six and a half.

03:02:41.660 You can't pick seven, though.

03:02:43.240 So 6.5?

03:02:44.100 Oh, yeah.

03:02:44.500 Okay.

03:02:44.940 I'll just do six.

03:02:46.000 I'll just do six.

03:02:46.900 Okay.

03:02:47.160 Oh, okay.

03:02:47.660 All right.

03:02:48.700 What about you?

03:02:49.980 Honestly, I can eight.

03:02:51.280 Okay.

03:02:53.600 Five or six.

03:02:55.560 I'll say 5.5.

03:02:57.320 Are we talking no makeup?

03:02:59.060 Like just raw looks?

03:03:01.860 Raw looks, yeah.

03:03:04.140 Okay.

03:03:04.520 Six.

03:03:05.680 Six.

03:03:06.860 Six.

03:03:07.740 You are good.

03:03:08.440 With the accent, though.

03:03:09.620 You are so good.

03:03:10.540 With the accent, though, that's got to get aura points for the accent.

03:03:13.600 I know that's not what we're counting.

03:03:14.560 I know.

03:03:14.820 There's a lot of competition in Australia.

03:03:16.940 That's true.

03:03:17.540 That is true.

03:03:18.000 But the accent is so pretty.

03:03:19.440 A lot of shilas.

03:03:19.960 A lot of shilas.

03:03:20.860 A lot of bogan shilas.

03:03:22.220 Yeah.

03:03:24.960 Depends where I am.

03:03:26.160 I don't know.

03:03:26.800 If I'm at the gym, I'm like a five.

03:03:28.640 If I'm on stage, I'm like a five.

03:03:29.700 You're from, uh...

03:03:30.980 You're Armenian, if I recall?

03:03:33.080 Or...

03:03:33.440 I'm half Armenian, half Russian.

03:03:34.880 A little bit of Georgian.

03:03:35.840 Okay, you are in...

03:03:36.840 Okay, you are in...

03:03:38.840 What's that country that is like...

03:03:44.640 It's...

03:03:45.680 Pull up a map.

03:03:46.880 Damn, what's the fuck?

03:03:47.480 Pull up a map.

03:03:47.900 Can we do the Windows app?

03:03:50.060 Do you sound again?

03:03:50.600 You're in, uh...

03:03:52.220 There's this...

03:03:54.300 Georgian?

03:03:54.760 No sound.

03:03:55.340 There's this country that's...

03:03:57.180 I think it's a little west of Romania, but it's still...

03:04:03.000 Check.

03:04:03.700 It's not a Russian territory, but fuck, why is it evading me?

03:04:06.580 Check.

03:04:07.840 No, no, no.

03:04:08.900 It's, um...

03:04:09.900 Hungary and Bulgaria.

03:04:11.660 It's allied with Russia.

03:04:13.800 Literally pull up a map.

03:04:15.940 No, not Serbia.

03:04:17.440 Oh, there we go.

03:04:18.460 Somebody in the chat is gonna help me here.

03:04:21.400 Somebody in the chat.

03:04:22.400 I know, it's, um...

03:04:24.160 Allied...

03:04:24.760 Belarus?

03:04:25.840 No, not Belarus.

03:04:27.920 It's...

03:04:28.440 Moldova.

03:04:29.400 I think it's...

03:04:29.980 Is it Moldova?

03:04:31.920 Is it Moldova?

03:04:33.260 Moldova is...

03:04:33.880 It's not...

03:04:34.300 I'm not thinking of Belarus.

03:04:36.760 I think it's Transnistria.

03:04:39.360 I think it's Transnistria.

03:04:40.560 So you're in Transnistria.

03:04:42.520 I don't even think she knows where that is.

03:04:44.380 I think it's either Moldova or...

03:04:46.380 Hold on, let me fucking look this shit up.

03:04:49.460 Oh, wait, Nick, did we ever...

03:04:50.880 Did we ever pull up that math thing, Nick?

03:04:54.420 Moldova.

03:04:55.740 What does it have to do with me, though?

03:04:58.360 You were just asking, like, where...

03:04:59.680 Oh, I meant west of Ukraine.

03:05:02.520 Okay, yeah, so Moldova.

03:05:04.580 Yeah.

03:05:05.200 I meant to say between Ukraine, west of Ukraine,

03:05:08.400 between Romania, Ukraine.

03:05:10.820 Moldova, I believe it's allied with Russia.

03:05:14.320 So you're in Moldova.

03:05:15.840 Very beautiful women in Moldova.

03:05:18.180 What do you rate yourself there?

03:05:19.620 God, I'm sorry, that was pointless.

03:05:22.080 I don't know.

03:05:23.020 I could be a 6 in some neighborhood,

03:05:25.440 and I could be a 10 in another one.

03:05:27.860 So what do you just rate yourself in the U.S., then?

03:05:29.720 Oh, my God.

03:05:30.860 In California?

03:05:32.400 8.

03:05:32.840 Mm-hmm.

03:05:33.800 And then what about you?

03:05:37.540 I wouldn't rate myself.

03:05:39.460 Into the mic.

03:05:40.180 I wouldn't rate myself.

03:05:41.420 I'm just a person.

03:05:42.700 I don't know.

03:05:44.020 I don't want to do that.

03:05:45.020 My drummer said I'm a 4.

03:05:46.940 You got to answer the question.

03:05:48.300 Shoot it.

03:05:49.280 You could just answer the question.

03:05:50.960 Oh, drummer.

03:05:51.220 I was like, oh, my God.

03:05:53.260 I don't know.

03:05:53.640 I don't have an answer.

03:05:55.220 Okay, so when you look in the mirror,

03:05:56.560 do you think, like, wow, I'm really beautiful?

03:05:59.840 Sometimes.

03:06:00.600 It depends.

03:06:01.000 And other days you don't?

03:06:02.480 Yeah.

03:06:03.000 Okay, so some days you're more attractive than other days.

03:06:06.560 So if we applied that precise dynamic to a rating scale,

03:06:10.460 but a zero being, like, your worst day ever,

03:06:15.840 you felt like shit, you were sick, whatever, massive breakouts,

03:06:19.740 whatever it is, 10, like, you just feel the best,

03:06:23.740 your skin is vibrant, no breakouts, et cetera,

03:06:26.120 your makeup's perfect, blah, blah, blah, blah.

03:06:28.040 Hair's perfect, just got a haircut, whatever it is.

03:06:32.100 I don't know.

03:06:33.340 I don't like to put a number on it.

03:06:35.260 Like, I don't know what.

03:06:38.080 Can you put a number on then?

03:06:40.300 On a what?

03:06:41.020 On men.

03:06:42.060 That guy's a five, he's a seven, that guy's a nine.

03:06:46.060 Not really.

03:06:47.000 Not really.

03:06:48.020 Not really?

03:06:48.940 Why don't you?

03:06:49.360 So then are, do you do,

03:06:51.920 are you able to acknowledge that there are differentials

03:06:54.160 between physical appearance?

03:06:55.440 Mm-hmm.

03:06:56.120 Yeah.

03:06:56.540 Some people are better looking than others?

03:06:58.500 No, it depends.

03:06:59.400 Like, I mean, I don't know,

03:07:01.120 because I don't really care that much.

03:07:03.520 You don't care about looks?

03:07:04.720 No, not necessarily.

03:07:05.900 I care about, like, how a person is,

03:07:07.660 and, like, I don't know.

03:07:09.400 How they treat you?

03:07:10.160 How they treat you, yeah.

03:07:11.240 I mean, that's, thank you for your politically correct answer.

03:07:13.720 Give us the real answer.

03:07:14.860 Well, no, that is correct.

03:07:16.040 That is true.

03:07:16.880 It's true.

03:07:17.280 I believe her.

03:07:18.220 Especially if she had negative experience.

03:07:19.860 Say that, they have negative experiences with handsome men

03:07:23.820 versus ugly men.

03:07:25.220 No, I'm saying if she...

03:07:25.820 She only, she's had great experiences with ugly men,

03:07:29.300 terrible experience, like, what?

03:07:30.280 No, I'm saying if she had trauma before,

03:07:32.660 she might find comfort in someone that treats her very well,

03:07:35.680 no matter how they work.

03:07:36.420 Yeah, that's what I am doing now.

03:07:37.780 Like, now I don't settle for one,

03:07:39.780 but, like, I find multiple that can make me feel happy.

03:07:42.260 Okay, so to your point,

03:07:43.240 wouldn't it be better to be in a relationship

03:07:44.700 with someone who's good-looking, who treats you well,

03:07:47.180 versus someone who's ugly, who treats you well?

03:07:49.140 Of course, yes.

03:07:50.980 Fully.

03:07:51.460 Ah, okay.

03:07:52.120 We're making progress.

03:07:53.320 If they both treat you the same way,

03:07:54.740 she said she would forego all red flags

03:07:59.120 if the guy was hot.

03:08:01.080 Yeah.

03:08:01.300 Well, I tend to do that naturally.

03:08:04.120 I tend to naturally do that.

03:08:05.880 I look past the red flags.

03:08:07.000 What are the red flags?

03:08:08.940 I know, I'm very trusting with people.

03:08:11.560 Before I have Andrew introduce himself here,

03:08:14.020 so I would like to get an answer if you can.

03:08:19.220 Zero.

03:08:20.800 Why don't you just give a, I mean...

03:08:22.260 Zero.

03:08:22.740 I don't want to say anything.

03:08:23.980 I'm not going to...

03:08:24.740 Because what are we going to say here

03:08:26.200 calling myself a 10?

03:08:26.600 Do you think people are going to judge you?

03:08:27.960 You could.

03:08:28.500 I don't like that.

03:08:29.080 It feels weird to me.

03:08:30.300 Do you think you're a 10?

03:08:31.360 No.

03:08:32.200 I don't think I'm...

03:08:32.940 I think I'm a human being.

03:08:34.620 I wouldn't rate myself.

03:08:36.700 I'm just a person.

03:08:38.180 I don't like to think of it like that.

03:08:39.820 We're all...

03:08:40.260 Would you date a guy shorter than you?

03:08:41.620 Yeah.

03:08:41.820 Graal Zulu donated $200.

03:08:46.000 Girl in red was a six

03:08:47.440 until she dove into a pool of bad faith.

03:08:50.320 Now she's a four.

03:08:51.660 Well, hold on.

03:08:52.840 So I asked you guys all a question

03:08:55.380 much, much earlier in the show.

03:08:58.300 And I said,

03:08:59.060 have you ever seen this phenomenon

03:09:00.520 of really good-looking women

03:09:02.480 dating mid-guys?

03:09:03.660 So based off of your answers

03:09:05.820 to this question,

03:09:06.720 you all said yes to this answer.

03:09:08.420 So that means that not only

03:09:09.720 are you able to make determinations

03:09:11.240 as to women's physical beauty,

03:09:13.400 you're also able to make determinations

03:09:14.920 as to men's physical appearance.

03:09:16.880 Because in order for you

03:09:18.140 to be able to categorize

03:09:19.280 a given woman

03:09:20.420 as more attractive comparatively

03:09:22.720 to a mid-guy,

03:09:24.680 you've just made a value judgment.

03:09:27.080 So this idea that you can't rate yourself.

03:09:29.920 You did.

03:09:30.380 You actually did just do the rating

03:09:31.880 when I asked you that question.

03:09:34.200 You said,

03:09:35.180 okay, the question I asked

03:09:36.380 like an hour ago was,

03:09:38.360 are you aware of this phenomenon

03:09:41.860 where really good-looking girls

03:09:43.740 date mid-guys?

03:09:46.480 And you all said yes.

03:09:47.980 So that means all the women here

03:09:50.240 are capable of making value

03:09:52.220 determinations and judgments

03:09:53.500 based off of physical appearance.

03:09:55.240 Yeah, but am I going to put a number on it?

03:09:56.480 All the other girls,

03:09:57.680 what do you mean, a number?

03:09:58.760 Like, that just feels weird to me.

03:10:02.320 Why?

03:10:02.900 Is it not?

03:10:03.500 Did we like ask about a number

03:10:04.900 like on a person?

03:10:05.780 But also, I mean,

03:10:06.380 we're on this show.

03:10:07.100 We knew what it was expecting.

03:10:08.880 Would you date a guy

03:10:09.580 with a micro penis?

03:10:11.920 I have.

03:10:12.860 I've been there on that.

03:10:13.460 Would you prefer to date a man

03:10:15.540 with a certain penis size?

03:10:19.340 It really...

03:10:20.100 Honestly, the penis doesn't matter to me.

03:10:22.020 She knows.

03:10:22.460 I don't really...

03:10:23.660 I don't care about that either.

03:10:24.860 I don't care about that.

03:10:25.340 I mean, I'll sleep with a...

03:10:26.560 I'm able to stay here

03:10:28.080 and say that I'll sleep with a woman

03:10:29.040 and they don't have a penis.

03:10:31.240 Then, like, obviously,

03:10:32.460 I'm down to sleep with a guy

03:10:34.080 that doesn't have, like...

03:10:34.980 That's not packing huge.

03:10:36.100 I mean, there's other ways around that.

03:10:37.560 There's other ways for satisfaction.

03:10:38.980 Like, you can give head.

03:10:40.680 You can wear a dick sleeve.

03:10:42.760 Amber just told me about it

03:10:44.060 in the car on the way here.

03:10:45.080 I had no idea that existed.

03:10:46.340 That's pretty true.

03:10:47.000 Oh, yeah.

03:10:47.260 You can tell them that in the car.

03:10:48.240 Or there's toys.

03:10:49.540 There's, like, a...

03:10:50.200 Yeah, you can put a sleeve on it.

03:10:51.400 Like, there's other ways

03:10:52.100 to pleasure your partner

03:10:52.920 than just penetration.

03:10:54.360 In fact, most women

03:10:55.340 don't even come from penetration.

03:10:56.440 Why would you need the sleeve

03:10:57.300 if it doesn't matter?

03:10:58.480 If it doesn't matter...

03:10:59.540 Well, it doesn't matter

03:11:00.340 to certain people,

03:11:00.900 but the feeling...

03:11:02.260 You can still feel things.

03:11:03.360 Sometimes it vibrates.

03:11:04.060 So the girl.

03:11:05.780 There's still a feeling...

03:11:07.100 So the sleeve, I'm assuming,

03:11:08.820 is something that would go

03:11:09.640 over the member.

03:11:10.140 Yeah, there's, like, a rubber thing

03:11:10.980 that has, like, little, like,

03:11:11.840 spikes and stuff on it.

03:11:12.680 Like, it has, like, texture.

03:11:13.720 So, like, if you put it on,

03:11:14.940 it'll feel, like...

03:11:15.660 I don't know.

03:11:16.060 It'll feel good for the girl,

03:11:17.340 but the man won't feel anything.

03:11:19.000 No, they won't.

03:11:19.460 They come right into the sleeve.

03:11:21.400 Trust me about it.

03:11:22.300 I was with the guy who used that.

03:11:24.160 I'm pretty sure

03:11:25.200 I have a good understanding

03:11:25.920 of what you're talking about here.

03:11:27.340 And sometimes it vibrates.

03:11:28.080 Unless I'm misunderstanding.

03:11:29.720 How...

03:11:30.200 Show me the thickness

03:11:30.960 of the sleeve.

03:11:31.680 Like, the sleeves.

03:11:32.360 Like, you've never seen the...

03:11:32.960 No, the thickness of the sleeve.

03:11:34.620 They're, like, thin.

03:11:35.340 They're, like, little...

03:11:36.200 Compared to a condom,

03:11:38.060 what is the thickness?

03:11:38.500 Probably a little thicker

03:11:39.300 than a condom, yeah.

03:11:40.420 I'd say.

03:11:40.820 It's a little...

03:11:41.160 I think.

03:11:41.520 So the man essentially

03:11:43.080 can't feel anything.

03:11:45.440 He can't feel the inside

03:11:47.360 of a woman's...

03:11:49.360 Yeah.

03:11:50.100 ...inside.

03:11:50.820 But, like, the woman

03:11:51.820 also cannot feel him inside either.

03:11:54.240 So it's, like,

03:11:54.820 it's kind of the same thing.

03:11:55.980 It's just toys.

03:11:56.400 It doesn't matter why.

03:11:57.600 If it does nothing for the man,

03:11:59.220 it would be for the woman's pleasure,

03:12:00.660 correct?

03:12:01.220 It does do something for a man.

03:12:03.000 It vibrates.

03:12:04.200 Mm-hmm.

03:12:04.520 Oh, yeah.

03:12:04.840 Wow.

03:12:05.280 Vibration is a terrible sensation

03:12:07.080 for men.

03:12:07.960 But, okay.

03:12:08.560 Not all the time.

03:12:09.520 I know plenty of guys

03:12:10.300 that like vibration.

03:12:11.780 Yeah.

03:12:12.300 Especially on their body.

03:12:12.900 No, it's distracting.

03:12:13.640 I work at a sex shop.

03:12:15.760 You would not believe...

03:12:16.520 Yeah, they buy it for their girl.

03:12:17.840 No, they buy it for themselves.

03:12:20.300 No.

03:12:20.560 Let's see, I have an OnlyFans

03:12:21.780 and I've literally had men

03:12:23.220 send me videos of them

03:12:24.420 using vibrators.

03:12:25.760 Yeah.

03:12:25.940 They literally do.

03:12:27.020 Yes.

03:12:27.300 On their genitalia.

03:12:28.480 On their actual...

03:12:29.520 No, on their...

03:12:30.440 Oh, let me just put a vibrator

03:12:31.940 on my penis,

03:12:32.720 which does nothing.

03:12:33.640 On their balls.

03:12:34.640 Yeah.

03:12:35.300 Bro, you guys are ridiculous.

03:12:36.640 I'm just saying...

03:12:37.640 I'm not saying all men like it.

03:12:39.000 I'm just saying some do.

03:12:39.260 For the sake of moving the show along,

03:12:40.500 can you just give us an answer?

03:12:43.460 Like that's good faith?

03:12:45.140 Zero.

03:12:45.760 I don't know how to put an answer.

03:12:47.160 Why do I have to number my...

03:12:47.880 So you're among the lowest percentile,

03:12:51.460 like you're among the ugliest cohort of women

03:12:54.340 is what you're saying.

03:12:55.220 Sure.

03:12:56.500 I don't want to give myself a number.

03:12:58.180 I feel weird about that.

03:12:58.520 Yeah, but I don't want the sure answer.

03:13:00.140 I want the thinking about this.

03:13:02.840 This is...

03:13:03.380 Yeah, this is my answer.

03:13:05.000 Just say nine.

03:13:05.540 That's good faith.

03:13:07.140 Nine?

03:13:07.620 Okay, we'll say nine.

03:13:09.300 No, I don't want you to just say nine

03:13:11.000 because she just told you to say nine.

03:13:13.240 How...

03:13:13.640 What is your...

03:13:14.320 I don't want to rate myself

03:13:15.160 or other women or anyone.

03:13:16.840 I think...

03:13:17.220 But earlier in the conversation...

03:13:18.140 Would you fuck yourself?

03:13:19.000 You did do a rating.

03:13:21.580 What did you say?

03:13:23.780 If she met someone who looked like her,

03:13:27.320 would she be attracted to her?

03:13:29.760 Because that's how I rate myself.

03:13:34.280 But it's based on your self-esteem then.

03:13:36.540 Because all self-rating is based on self-esteem.

03:13:40.320 That's just rating your confidence

03:13:40.360 more than rating your looks.

03:13:41.600 That's just rating your confidence and your self-esteem.

03:13:44.120 Okay, if I was walking by,

03:13:46.780 let's say by someone who looks like me,

03:13:48.920 I would turn my head around

03:13:50.280 and be like, damn.

03:13:51.300 Like, I would...

03:13:52.280 I would...

03:13:53.180 Damn!

03:13:54.540 Well, no.

03:13:55.280 I would say like,

03:13:56.140 oh, my God, I love your dress.

03:13:57.900 I love your hair.

03:13:58.840 And like, it was a very conversation.

03:14:00.060 Why don't you just answer the question

03:14:00.920 so we can move things along?

03:14:02.360 I did.

03:14:02.760 You said, I refuse to answer the question.

03:14:05.640 I said zero.

03:14:05.800 I said nine.

03:14:06.580 I gave answers.

03:14:07.880 Okay.

03:14:08.180 You just don't want to accept them.

03:14:10.320 So, if somebody asked me a question,

03:14:14.700 Brian, how much money do you make?

03:14:16.320 And I say, I make a gazillion dollars.

03:14:18.720 That's not an answer to their question.

03:14:20.780 I hope you answer not your business

03:14:21.540 that when it comes to your money.

03:14:22.700 No one should be asking me that.

03:14:24.200 That's not the point I'm trying to make.

03:14:26.420 No.

03:14:26.600 The point I'm trying to make is

03:14:27.520 if I answer a gazillion dollars,

03:14:31.420 that doesn't answer their question.

03:14:34.320 And clearly, your own self-assessment of yourself

03:14:37.180 is not a zero.

03:14:39.520 Okay.

03:14:40.660 Say to me then,

03:14:41.860 I am among the ugliest women.

03:14:44.300 Just say you're ugly then.

03:14:46.480 Why?

03:14:47.040 She's not ugly.

03:14:47.940 A zero.

03:14:49.200 What is a zero?

03:14:50.340 Well, she also gave you a nine.

03:14:51.620 I think she's just not comfortable answering

03:14:53.160 because she doesn't want to, like,

03:14:54.840 doesn't want to be, like,

03:14:56.100 perceived as, like, cocky as hell

03:14:57.800 because clearly...

03:14:59.280 Well, who cares if she actually is cocky as hell?

03:15:01.680 What does it matter what the perception is?

03:15:03.320 It's all about your self-confidence.

03:15:05.400 Do you feel confident in yourself?

03:15:06.500 Oh, this is...

03:15:07.100 Like, I don't...

03:15:08.400 Why don't we just go to somebody

03:15:09.360 who would answer it?

03:15:11.240 Well, everyone else sounds like that.

03:15:11.880 I want to talk about this.

03:15:13.060 No, no, no, no, no, no.

03:15:13.980 Hold on.

03:15:14.520 I'm not going to allow her

03:15:15.500 to weasel out of the question

03:15:16.800 by letting you guys derail the conversation.

03:15:18.920 Can I ask a question?

03:15:19.940 No, you can't.

03:15:20.600 Okay, we're not moving on

03:15:21.760 until you answer the question.

03:15:23.840 Well, I'm going to ask a question about that.

03:15:25.640 No, you're not going to ask a question.

03:15:27.300 We're going to sit here in silence

03:15:28.940 until she answers the question.

03:15:30.280 Why?

03:15:31.980 Because I am inclined to do so.

03:15:34.400 I'm inclined to do so.

03:15:36.800 Can I perhaps offer a slightly different variation?

03:15:43.160 My name's Andrew, by the way.

03:15:44.460 Welcome, Andrew.

03:15:45.240 Hi, Andrew.

03:15:47.040 So, to the gal in the, I don't know,

03:15:50.080 I think red dress, I'm not sure.

03:15:52.500 From my perspective, we'll just say red dress.

03:15:55.840 You do agree that there are things

03:15:57.560 like beauty pageants, right?

03:15:59.720 You would agree with me on that?

03:16:01.140 Superficial, yeah.

03:16:02.640 Can you speak into the mic or I can't hear you?

03:16:04.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:16:04.920 Beauty pageants are very superficial.

03:16:07.620 Yeah, yeah.

03:16:08.040 But you do agree that they exist?

03:16:10.220 Yeah, they exist.

03:16:11.720 Yeah, you got to speak into the mic

03:16:13.040 or I can't hear you.

03:16:13.840 Yeah, they exist.

03:16:15.380 Okay, great.

03:16:16.420 So, at a beauty pageant,

03:16:18.520 what are the types of things you think that are judged?

03:16:22.160 I don't know.

03:16:22.700 I've never been to one.

03:16:24.700 You've never seen a beauty pageant?

03:16:25.780 Well, if you just had to guess.

03:16:26.820 Not really.

03:16:27.400 I mean, I don't know.

03:16:28.300 They do, like, the little rating signs stuff.

03:16:31.160 It's debating on little girls,

03:16:32.620 which is a weird, another whole other one.

03:16:34.440 Yeah, I get it,

03:16:35.640 but that's not the conversation that we're having.

03:16:37.380 Okay.

03:16:37.760 And no, you can have beauty pageants

03:16:39.960 with 25, 30-year-olds.

03:16:41.440 They're very common.

03:16:42.640 So, they hold up the little signs.

03:16:44.160 Those little signs have numbers,

03:16:45.500 and those numbers on the signs

03:16:46.780 are allocating a rating,

03:16:48.240 usually somewhere between 1 and 10, right?

03:16:50.700 Mm-hmm.

03:16:51.300 So, if you were to say that

03:16:53.420 you had 1,000 people

03:16:56.500 who were holding up those little signs,

03:16:59.240 and you were in the beauty pageant,

03:17:02.100 what do you think most of the signs would say?

03:17:05.440 I don't know,

03:17:06.420 because I don't know

03:17:06.920 what other people think about me.

03:17:08.980 You're talking to her like she's a little kid.

03:17:11.240 Come on.

03:17:11.420 I totally understand

03:17:12.780 that you don't know

03:17:13.740 what other people think about you.

03:17:15.440 There's no way for you to know that.

03:17:17.340 Yeah.

03:17:17.980 But I think you can take an educated guess

03:17:20.420 as to what you think

03:17:21.440 that those signs would say.

03:17:22.740 So, for me,

03:17:23.420 I think that the signs would pretty much

03:17:24.940 range somewhere between 3 to 5,

03:17:27.240 and I would probably center

03:17:28.180 somewhere around 4.

03:17:31.220 That's just a guess, though.

03:17:32.820 For himself?

03:17:34.440 For yourself?

03:17:34.820 Yeah, for me.

03:17:35.200 Okay.

03:17:36.040 Well, if you were on the 3 the other night.

03:17:38.900 I don't know.

03:17:40.660 It's the same question.

03:17:41.880 She's not going to answer it.

03:17:43.280 It's not the same question, though.

03:17:45.480 I'm not asking her to rate herself.

03:17:48.100 So, that would be the opposite

03:17:49.700 of the rate yourself question.

03:17:51.240 That would be asking

03:17:52.220 if other people were rating you,

03:17:54.540 what do you think that 1,000 of them,

03:17:56.600 if they were holding up signs,

03:17:57.720 what do you think that would

03:17:58.440 kind of end up centering around?

03:18:00.480 The range depends on

03:18:01.400 someone's personal, like...

03:18:03.260 I can't hear a word you say

03:18:05.280 because you just won't speak

03:18:06.240 into the mic.

03:18:06.800 What you should do is tilt...

03:18:08.080 So, the top of it,

03:18:09.040 tilt it up towards your mouth.

03:18:11.100 There you go.

03:18:11.740 And then speak right into it

03:18:13.000 because that's how the audience

03:18:14.200 and me hear you.

03:18:15.380 Okay, yeah, yeah.

03:18:16.980 I don't know.

03:18:17.700 I just wouldn't rate myself.

03:18:19.500 I don't know.

03:18:20.180 Why is it like...

03:18:21.200 Well, you're not rating...

03:18:22.080 You're not rating yourself, though.

03:18:23.740 Oh, well, if someone else were to.

03:18:25.120 I don't know.

03:18:25.980 How would I...

03:18:26.540 I just rated you.

03:18:27.780 I rated you.

03:18:28.360 She rated me a nine, so...

03:18:29.380 Hold on.

03:18:30.060 Allow him to have his conversation.

03:18:33.060 Yeah, you're not rating yourself

03:18:34.440 in this scenario.

03:18:35.260 I'm not even interested

03:18:36.120 in your self-rating.

03:18:37.220 I'm interested in what you think

03:18:38.480 that the people in the crowd

03:18:39.800 would rate you.

03:18:41.820 In a crowd full of people,

03:18:43.000 I couldn't say

03:18:43.840 what they would rate you.

03:18:44.740 You kind of just sound like

03:18:45.680 you're asking a question

03:18:46.640 like a cop would ask you

03:18:47.740 if you're drunk

03:18:48.280 in a bunch of different ways

03:18:49.240 just to get you to admit guilt.

03:18:50.560 It's like you're asking her

03:18:51.800 to assume

03:18:53.280 what other people

03:18:54.100 would rate her

03:18:54.820 based on her rating

03:18:56.500 of herself damn near.

03:18:57.640 Like, it's the same question

03:18:58.600 just reversed in a different way

03:19:00.540 to try and get her

03:19:01.920 to answer it.

03:19:02.560 You know what I mean?

03:19:03.400 It's like if a cop asks you

03:19:04.800 how many drinks...

03:19:05.000 No, I don't know what you mean.

03:19:06.000 They're two completely

03:19:06.880 different questions.

03:19:07.780 So, for instance,

03:19:08.480 if you say Andrew...

03:19:08.840 Well, it's because of

03:19:09.560 your own narrative

03:19:10.220 in your head.

03:19:11.140 I'll explain.

03:19:11.900 If you said Andrew,

03:19:13.560 what do you rate yourself?

03:19:15.320 I could say,

03:19:16.000 oh, I rate myself a two

03:19:17.520 or a three

03:19:18.140 or a four

03:19:18.780 or a ten.

03:19:19.460 I could say any of those things.

03:19:20.480 However, my answer

03:19:22.060 may drastically change

03:19:23.580 if you said there was

03:19:24.180 a thousand women

03:19:24.840 with signs rating you.

03:19:26.160 What do you think

03:19:26.600 they would rate you?

03:19:27.600 Not only is this

03:19:28.080 not the same question,

03:19:29.220 but it could have

03:19:29.840 two totally different answers.

03:19:32.880 Well, if you're asking

03:19:33.740 a completely different question

03:19:34.720 than Brian's asking,

03:19:35.660 then what's the point

03:19:36.200 of her answering it

03:19:37.420 in the first place?

03:19:38.580 You're not allowed

03:19:38.800 to ask a different question

03:19:39.840 than Brian's asking?

03:19:40.940 But he's harping

03:19:41.900 on the fact

03:19:42.280 that he wants

03:19:42.680 his question answered.

03:19:43.660 So, if you're asking...

03:19:44.040 Yeah, I understand.

03:19:45.400 I'm asking a totally

03:19:46.140 different question.

03:19:47.280 My purpose at this point

03:19:48.460 is just to determine

03:19:49.220 if she's bad faith or not,

03:19:51.060 if she's willing

03:19:51.520 to actually engage

03:19:52.300 with the spirit

03:19:53.440 of a question

03:19:53.920 which is asked.

03:19:54.960 So, you do understand

03:19:55.780 that there's a distinction

03:19:56.620 between obfuscating away

03:19:58.540 from answering a question,

03:19:59.460 which is fine,

03:20:00.700 or answering away

03:20:01.840 from the spirit

03:20:02.560 of a question.

03:20:03.680 Like, for instance,

03:20:04.420 malicious compliance.

03:20:05.380 If I were to say

03:20:06.100 something to you like,

03:20:07.020 hey, can you hand me

03:20:08.000 that Coke?

03:20:08.500 And you said no

03:20:09.160 because it's a Pepsi.

03:20:10.340 That would not actually

03:20:11.680 be going with the spirit

03:20:13.080 of the request, right?

03:20:14.140 That would be what's called

03:20:14.880 malicious compliance.

03:20:17.720 So, I'm just trying...

03:20:18.860 I'm just curious

03:20:19.440 if you'll answer

03:20:21.480 any questions.

03:20:22.840 I did answer.

03:20:24.740 Yeah, so...

03:20:25.580 Can you answer to mine?

03:20:27.500 I already said zero

03:20:28.440 and I said nine

03:20:29.340 and then...

03:20:30.140 I don't know.

03:20:30.920 Well, you gave...

03:20:31.420 That's two totally

03:20:32.580 different answers.

03:20:33.920 Because I don't want

03:20:34.820 to rate myself.

03:20:35.480 I don't know what I am

03:20:36.560 and I don't know

03:20:36.940 what other people

03:20:37.520 think of me.

03:20:38.280 So, like,

03:20:38.660 I wouldn't want

03:20:39.160 to just, like,

03:20:39.720 say, like,

03:20:40.280 oh, that's just weird.

03:20:43.840 Like, no?

03:20:45.320 No, I get it.

03:20:46.020 Like, is that not weird?

03:20:47.960 I mean, if she's not...

03:20:49.140 No, I mean,

03:20:50.020 I don't think it's weird.

03:20:51.120 I think that...

03:20:52.140 What's trying to be

03:20:52.960 determined here

03:20:53.560 so that you understand

03:20:54.300 the spirit

03:20:54.820 of why this is asked,

03:20:57.060 wouldn't you consider

03:20:58.320 that there are people

03:20:59.480 who have narcissistic tendencies?

03:21:01.480 And if they did

03:21:02.540 have narcissistic tendencies,

03:21:03.900 one such tendency

03:21:05.040 would be that you

03:21:06.940 had misplaced confidence

03:21:08.000 in yourself

03:21:08.660 that did not

03:21:09.560 actually map onto reality.

03:21:11.340 That would be a good trait

03:21:12.900 of determining a narcissist.

03:21:14.660 So you just kind of wonder

03:21:15.960 if you're moving

03:21:17.200 into this idea

03:21:18.100 that there could be

03:21:19.060 potentially female narcissism

03:21:20.700 and they gave you

03:21:22.100 these kind of wild answers

03:21:24.040 about a self-rating

03:21:25.420 or how they believe

03:21:26.180 other people

03:21:26.680 would rate themselves,

03:21:27.920 wouldn't that kind of allude

03:21:28.860 if you heard that

03:21:29.480 often enough

03:21:30.280 that there could be

03:21:31.060 some merit to the idea

03:21:32.240 that women are experiencing

03:21:33.700 narcissism en masse.

03:21:35.580 Yeah, so if you think

03:21:36.480 that the point

03:21:38.700 of the question

03:21:39.280 is to extinguish

03:21:40.640 whether or not

03:21:41.160 a woman has

03:21:41.860 unnecessary confidence

03:21:44.440 or however you put it,

03:21:45.800 sorry, I'm not quoting you

03:21:47.020 directly,

03:21:47.520 but however you put it,

03:21:48.700 if it's to counteract

03:21:49.900 if there's a narcissistic

03:21:51.000 woman in the room

03:21:51.640 and has irrational confidence

03:21:53.540 that doesn't base up

03:21:55.360 or doesn't match up

03:21:56.440 with reality,

03:21:57.600 if her not answering

03:21:58.700 does that show

03:22:00.180 that she's not a narcissist

03:22:01.040 if she doesn't feel

03:22:01.840 comfortable reading.

03:22:02.520 Well, I think it does

03:22:03.400 and I can kind of

03:22:04.080 give you my reasoning why.

03:22:05.960 So I think that

03:22:06.880 if you were to avoid

03:22:07.940 a simple question

03:22:08.780 when it's very clear

03:22:10.200 at least to the onlookers

03:22:11.800 that you do have

03:22:12.980 some kind of answer to it,

03:22:14.580 you just don't want

03:22:15.520 to actually give it

03:22:16.560 because you're afraid

03:22:17.500 of the repercussions

03:22:18.460 of what people might think

03:22:19.800 about you

03:22:20.220 if you told them the truth.

03:22:21.240 I mean, she came on here

03:22:22.060 and said her body count.

03:22:23.280 Let me explain the rationale

03:22:24.540 and then you can respond.

03:22:26.100 I think that if that is the case,

03:22:28.340 then yeah,

03:22:28.760 I think that would allude

03:22:29.620 to some kind of large ego

03:22:30.960 or some perhaps

03:22:32.720 what I would consider

03:22:33.560 to be female narcissistic tendencies

03:22:35.520 because why avoid the question?

03:22:37.620 That's just very odd to me.

03:22:38.860 See, that's what's weird to me.

03:22:40.400 I think if you were here

03:22:42.640 from the beginning of the show,

03:22:44.420 you would know

03:22:44.900 she's not a narcissist.

03:22:46.080 It comes from a place

03:22:47.100 quite the opposite.

03:22:48.740 So you can't judge people

03:22:50.180 right off the bat.

03:22:51.560 What place does her refusal come from?

03:22:54.200 It could be a place

03:22:55.160 from low confidence,

03:22:56.960 some insecurity,

03:22:58.060 how she's perceived by others,

03:23:00.060 what it may make her look like

03:23:01.820 to others.

03:23:02.820 It comes from a place of fear,

03:23:05.140 I think, in a way.

03:23:07.420 Yeah, well, I mean,

03:23:08.720 so there's,

03:23:09.980 I mean, all of these

03:23:10.720 are direct possibilities.

03:23:12.060 I agree.

03:23:13.040 But I think that the way

03:23:13.880 a person would answer

03:23:14.700 such a question

03:23:15.500 would show us

03:23:16.440 which of those possibilities

03:23:17.460 is more aligned with,

03:23:18.580 wouldn't you?

03:23:19.600 She literally just said

03:23:20.700 that she could either be a zero

03:23:21.900 and she's fine accepting a zero

03:23:23.580 or she's fine accepting a nine.

03:23:25.280 She doesn't care

03:23:26.480 about rating herself.

03:23:28.060 Yeah, I just...

03:23:28.720 It doesn't make her a narcissist

03:23:30.100 or...

03:23:30.900 Yeah, I don't really understand

03:23:32.380 what that has to do

03:23:33.080 with what my question just was.

03:23:34.940 Depending on how a person

03:23:36.060 would answer such a question,

03:23:37.400 it could give you some insight

03:23:38.620 into how it is

03:23:39.980 that their mentality actually is

03:23:41.600 when it's mapped onto reality.

03:23:43.380 So are you just saying,

03:23:44.320 well, I avoid the question

03:23:46.320 by saying it could be

03:23:47.160 any of these things.

03:23:48.380 We all know

03:23:49.020 that it could be

03:23:49.700 any of these things.

03:23:50.900 Nobody disputes

03:23:51.600 it could be any of these things.

03:23:52.700 It could be zero.

03:23:53.400 I'm uncomfortable

03:23:53.880 putting a number on myself.

03:23:54.880 It could be eight.

03:23:55.360 It could be 7.5.

03:23:56.400 It could be 6.6.

03:23:57.620 It could be any variation thereof.

03:23:59.740 We just want to hear

03:24:00.600 which one it is.

03:24:02.620 Well, I didn't have an answer.

03:24:05.020 I don't know.

03:24:05.500 You don't have to answer.

03:24:06.340 That's true.

03:24:07.040 Would you date a guy

03:24:07.660 who's broke?

03:24:08.780 Yeah, I have.

03:24:09.680 I've financially supported a man.

03:24:11.060 Okay, you have.

03:24:11.980 Would you prefer

03:24:12.880 to date a man

03:24:13.700 who has money?

03:24:14.900 Yeah, but...

03:24:16.080 Isn't that a numerical

03:24:17.080 value judgment?

03:24:18.360 You're judging a man

03:24:19.560 based off of...

03:24:20.400 Not really

03:24:21.580 because I don't judge

03:24:22.160 if they're broke

03:24:22.620 or have money.

03:24:23.280 I don't care.

03:24:23.980 You don't care at all?

03:24:25.280 No.

03:24:25.540 You'll date a guy

03:24:25.960 who works at McDonald's?

03:24:26.980 I dated a guy

03:24:27.480 who had not even a bank account.

03:24:28.600 Yes, you...

03:24:29.380 Cool.

03:24:29.880 You could have been 18

03:24:30.780 and you were dating a guy

03:24:31.980 who was your age

03:24:32.720 and he didn't have money.

03:24:33.760 No.

03:24:34.460 I witnessed you

03:24:35.340 dating a guy

03:24:35.920 who didn't have a job.

03:24:36.820 You used to date...

03:24:38.080 You dating somebody

03:24:39.620 in the past

03:24:40.060 has no bearing

03:24:40.640 on your current preferences.

03:24:42.500 Current preferences range

03:24:45.080 because I do hang

03:24:45.960 with guys that are wealthy

03:24:46.940 and I do hang

03:24:47.600 with guys that are dirt broke

03:24:48.600 so I don't know.

03:24:49.500 Ranges.

03:24:49.780 Can I say something

03:24:50.740 about this argument

03:24:51.500 because it's always brought up

03:24:53.100 by so many people

03:24:54.140 and those guys

03:24:55.840 that have money

03:24:57.440 that are very rich

03:24:58.560 they're adult men

03:24:59.560 they choose to be with women.

03:25:01.260 They are not idiots.

03:25:02.360 They probably realize

03:25:03.300 why those women are there

03:25:04.580 and they choose

03:25:05.160 to be with them.

03:25:06.660 So there's something

03:25:07.560 in those women.

03:25:07.800 What does that have to do with...

03:25:09.180 Well, because

03:25:09.680 it kind of makes

03:25:10.840 oh, she's a gold digger.

03:25:12.600 That's not what

03:25:13.080 I'm implying at all.

03:25:14.120 But some other people are.

03:25:15.460 He's just trying...

03:25:16.420 No, the point

03:25:17.440 I'm trying to make

03:25:18.380 is you have an objection

03:25:19.960 to this numerical

03:25:21.200 value judgment

03:25:22.240 but...

03:25:23.240 Yeah, like rating

03:25:24.160 our looks.

03:25:24.940 Right, but a corresponding

03:25:26.260 value judgment

03:25:27.220 a corresponding value judgment

03:25:29.240 would be choosing to...

03:25:30.640 I wasn't wrong with it, honestly.

03:25:32.000 I just thought

03:25:32.520 that was crazy to ask even

03:25:33.940 like to be like

03:25:34.460 put a number on yourself.

03:25:35.560 Are you saying a guy

03:25:36.520 if I've had...

03:25:37.360 But you...

03:25:37.720 Okay.

03:25:38.960 When I asked you

03:25:39.800 the question about

03:25:41.040 have you seen

03:25:43.260 really attractive women

03:25:44.600 dating men who are mid

03:25:46.260 you are doing

03:25:48.360 a categorization.

03:25:51.900 You are doing

03:25:52.320 a rank ordering.

03:25:53.860 This person is more attractive

03:25:55.080 than this person.

03:25:56.320 Perhaps you don't like...

03:25:57.480 In general, there's people

03:25:58.240 that have those opinions

03:25:59.140 that someone can be mid.

03:26:00.040 You gotta tilt your mic

03:26:00.900 down a little bit

03:26:01.660 aim the mic straight at you.

03:26:03.480 Here, you guys just

03:26:04.580 take over that

03:26:05.200 from now on.

03:26:06.080 Just fix the mics

03:26:07.420 for people.

03:26:09.520 Okay, so...

03:26:11.580 You acknowledging

03:26:13.800 that there are men

03:26:14.680 who can be classed as mid.

03:26:16.820 So, instead of using numbers

03:26:18.720 if we said

03:26:19.540 10 is perfect...

03:26:21.040 I would never call

03:26:21.380 like a guy

03:26:22.180 or someone like mid

03:26:23.480 like that.

03:26:24.160 You wouldn't say

03:26:24.640 to their face

03:26:25.260 that's not the question.

03:26:28.220 Also rating someone else's.

03:26:29.380 Are there mid guys?

03:26:32.100 Also rating someone else's.

03:26:33.000 No, no, no, no.

03:26:33.540 Hold on.

03:26:34.000 Are there mid guys?

03:26:36.260 I don't know.

03:26:37.180 To someone's perspective,

03:26:38.340 yes.

03:26:38.620 To someone else's perspective,

03:26:39.920 no.

03:26:40.480 Well, from your perspective,

03:26:41.600 are some men

03:26:42.160 less attractive than others?

03:26:44.400 Yeah.

03:26:44.900 Yeah, of course.

03:26:46.080 Yeah, well,

03:26:46.540 if that's true,

03:26:47.220 then you have now

03:26:47.900 made a ranked categorization.

03:26:49.980 The same...

03:26:50.460 And that's the same

03:26:51.020 categorization we're asking you.

03:26:51.920 I'm not ranking anyone

03:26:52.020 with an actual number.

03:26:53.380 Like, I would never do that.

03:26:54.580 But you're saying

03:26:55.140 that there are men

03:26:56.000 more attractive

03:26:56.600 than other men.

03:26:58.200 That's just kind of

03:26:58.780 what they're saying.

03:26:59.380 Yeah, but generalizing,

03:27:01.020 oh, this person's

03:27:01.660 more attractive

03:27:02.080 than this person

03:27:02.660 and rating yourself

03:27:03.920 is two totally

03:27:04.660 different things.

03:27:05.300 Yeah.

03:27:05.800 Well, I don't really

03:27:07.320 see how, really.

03:27:08.500 So, it seems to me

03:27:10.540 that you would get

03:27:11.260 the state of whether

03:27:12.580 or not you're attractive

03:27:13.500 from the gaze

03:27:14.100 of other people,

03:27:15.120 not necessarily

03:27:15.880 from yourself,

03:27:16.740 or what standard

03:27:17.740 would you be going off of?

03:27:19.680 So, if you can rate

03:27:20.960 other men as being

03:27:22.080 this one's less attractive

03:27:23.080 than this one,

03:27:23.940 I would assume

03:27:24.600 that you could also

03:27:25.320 probably rate females

03:27:26.600 and say that this one's

03:27:27.720 less attractive

03:27:28.340 than this one.

03:27:29.320 And though, somehow,

03:27:30.120 when it comes to you,

03:27:31.020 you can't be objective

03:27:31.800 with the standard,

03:27:32.820 that's very strange to me.

03:27:34.880 Why females?

03:27:35.860 Definitely not.

03:27:36.580 Because I love women.

03:27:38.020 And you think,

03:27:39.080 what about men?

03:27:40.640 Men, I have had...

03:27:43.460 I don't know.

03:27:44.160 I mean, you've had

03:27:45.020 bad experiences

03:27:45.580 with women, too.

03:27:46.960 That's true.

03:27:47.320 Yeah, you do.

03:27:47.640 You find women

03:27:48.920 sexually and romantically

03:27:50.100 appealing, correct?

03:27:52.000 Yeah.

03:27:52.420 Right?

03:27:52.780 Because I've heard

03:27:53.460 this objection,

03:27:54.160 well, I can't rank

03:27:55.480 other women

03:27:56.340 because I'm not

03:27:57.100 attracted to them.

03:27:58.320 But you are

03:27:58.740 attracted to women,

03:27:59.580 so that's not really...

03:28:00.500 I wouldn't rank them.

03:28:01.680 I wouldn't rank anyone.

03:28:02.800 Why do you have

03:28:03.180 to rank people?

03:28:04.000 Like, that's just

03:28:04.420 really neat.

03:28:05.260 But you already did

03:28:06.060 when you say

03:28:06.580 that some men

03:28:07.060 are less attractive

03:28:07.740 than others,

03:28:08.240 you've ranked them.

03:28:08.980 It's a categorization.

03:28:10.420 You're creating

03:28:10.820 a hierarchy.

03:28:12.020 You just don't like

03:28:13.200 the words used

03:28:15.560 to describe the hierarchy.

03:28:17.060 But there's a hierarchy

03:28:18.080 nevertheless.

03:28:20.180 Okay.

03:28:21.700 Are you guys still

03:28:22.280 talking only about looks

03:28:23.400 or does it some other...

03:28:24.600 Yeah, just looks.

03:28:25.440 Just looks.

03:28:26.080 Why are you bringing up

03:28:26.840 money then?

03:28:27.400 How much money

03:28:28.180 a guy makes?

03:28:28.880 He was talking

03:28:30.500 about numerically.

03:28:31.920 Yeah, so that became

03:28:32.820 a segue.

03:28:33.900 And the reason that

03:28:34.500 money was brought up

03:28:35.580 is to say,

03:28:36.140 well, wait.

03:28:37.060 Clearly you can make

03:28:37.900 some categorizations

03:28:38.980 when it comes to

03:28:39.940 preferences,

03:28:40.700 which you would

03:28:41.200 rather date

03:28:41.760 or not date,

03:28:42.820 even if it came

03:28:43.420 to something

03:28:43.880 that wasn't looks.

03:28:44.820 but somehow

03:28:45.760 you forget

03:28:46.560 that looks,

03:28:47.760 you now suddenly

03:28:48.960 can't rank anybody

03:28:49.740 based on looks.

03:28:50.640 Though you then admit

03:28:51.820 that, wait,

03:28:52.580 some men are less

03:28:53.140 attractive than others,

03:28:54.060 which means you're

03:28:54.560 rating them by looks.

03:28:55.140 I just don't want to.

03:28:56.380 Respectfully,

03:28:56.800 that's all it is.

03:28:57.540 I just said

03:28:57.980 I'm not comfortable

03:28:58.780 with rating myself,

03:28:59.980 let alone someone else.

03:29:00.860 Yeah, that's fine.

03:29:01.800 I was responding

03:29:02.380 to her inquiry.

03:29:04.040 I don't give a shit

03:29:05.740 if you rate yourself

03:29:06.420 or not.

03:29:06.840 I think that it's

03:29:07.580 just a waste of time

03:29:08.360 at this point,

03:29:09.000 honestly.

03:29:09.320 So we have

03:29:11.460 one 10 at the table

03:29:12.460 then.

03:29:15.400 Yeah.

03:29:18.000 So are you prepared

03:29:20.740 to then say,

03:29:21.540 given the other

03:29:22.220 women's ratings here,

03:29:23.380 you're the only one

03:29:24.120 who said 10,

03:29:25.060 do you think you're

03:29:25.420 the most attractive

03:29:26.200 girl here?

03:29:27.360 Actually,

03:29:27.880 when I said

03:29:28.360 I was a 10,

03:29:28.980 I said I believe

03:29:29.560 all the other people

03:29:30.440 in this room

03:29:31.040 are a 10.

03:29:32.120 Okay.

03:29:32.900 Yeah, I recall that.

03:29:33.880 Including the guys.

03:29:34.700 Everybody's a 10.

03:29:35.480 Including the guys.

03:29:36.080 I didn't say everybody,

03:29:37.060 I said everybody in this room.

03:29:37.800 But earlier,

03:29:38.500 once again,

03:29:38.920 if I can bring this

03:29:39.560 back up,

03:29:40.020 when I asked the question

03:29:40.840 earlier of,

03:29:41.920 have you ever seen

03:29:43.340 a beautiful woman

03:29:44.900 with a mid guy?

03:29:47.040 Yes.

03:29:47.360 And I said yes,

03:29:48.000 but I said everybody

03:29:48.580 in this room is a 10,

03:29:49.780 not everybody in general.

03:29:51.840 Every,

03:29:52.340 well,

03:29:54.060 I mean,

03:29:54.960 what percentage

03:29:55.740 of the population

03:29:56.520 would you say

03:29:57.020 is a 10?

03:30:00.100 Looks wise,

03:30:00.960 for men and women.

03:30:01.340 From my perception?

03:30:02.500 Yeah,

03:30:02.720 what's the percentage

03:30:03.620 of the population

03:30:04.420 that falls into

03:30:05.560 the 10 category?

03:30:09.380 Maybe,

03:30:10.720 like,

03:30:11.920 that's a hard question,

03:30:13.040 actually.

03:30:13.440 I'd say maybe

03:30:14.020 under 50%,

03:30:16.480 like 30 to 40%

03:30:18.360 of people are a 10.

03:30:19.520 There's a lot

03:30:19.900 of people in the world.

03:30:21.560 So,

03:30:22.520 are we saying

03:30:23.260 just based on looks

03:30:24.080 or personality?

03:30:24.560 This is just looks.

03:30:25.100 Just based on looks.

03:30:26.360 Is it face looks

03:30:27.660 or is it like body?

03:30:28.560 All of it.

03:30:29.560 It's a whole package.

03:30:30.860 Whole package.

03:30:31.020 I also think

03:30:31.600 we have to think

03:30:31.960 about,

03:30:32.240 you know,

03:30:32.460 people have certain types

03:30:33.440 to someone

03:30:34.000 I might be their type.

03:30:35.680 And some people see me,

03:30:36.560 they see the tattoos

03:30:37.300 and the hair

03:30:37.880 and they're like,

03:30:38.280 oh,

03:30:38.460 you know,

03:30:39.100 she's lower than a 10.

03:30:41.380 Because she's like

03:30:42.020 a specific niche type

03:30:43.260 of alternative girl.

03:30:45.000 Okay,

03:30:45.460 but so,

03:30:46.600 so I've magically,

03:30:49.680 even though it's

03:30:50.340 a minority of people

03:30:51.300 that are 10s,

03:30:52.700 I've somehow managed

03:30:53.880 to just wrangle

03:30:54.860 every single person

03:30:57.000 at this table

03:30:57.580 as a 10.

03:30:58.060 Wait,

03:30:59.140 so,

03:30:59.640 hmm.

03:31:01.060 You just have

03:31:01.900 the most beautiful people

03:31:03.120 on this podcast.

03:31:04.120 I'm the most beautiful

03:31:04.840 in the world.

03:31:06.140 Yeah,

03:31:06.480 I guess I'm just

03:31:07.180 a really good

03:31:07.860 talent coordinator

03:31:08.620 that always gets

03:31:09.680 perfect 10 models.

03:31:11.080 You should change it

03:31:11.740 to the beautiful podcast

03:31:13.000 instead of the whatever podcast.

03:31:14.200 I probably should.

03:31:14.900 I agree,

03:31:15.620 you should.

03:31:16.340 I definitely should.

03:31:19.140 So,

03:31:19.640 okay,

03:31:19.980 so everyone's a 10,

03:31:21.080 not everyone's a 10,

03:31:22.060 though.

03:31:22.180 You said only 20

03:31:23.060 or 30 to 40 to 50

03:31:24.460 percent of people

03:31:25.400 are 10s.

03:31:26.040 Sure,

03:31:26.520 yeah.

03:31:27.040 Okay,

03:31:27.320 and what's the breakdown

03:31:28.160 for like 9,

03:31:29.240 8,

03:31:29.640 7?

03:31:30.440 Because that's a lot,

03:31:31.320 that's a big percentage

03:31:32.160 to be at 10.

03:31:33.640 I guess.

03:31:34.020 To be perfect.

03:31:34.740 I think

03:31:35.220 it comes from confidence.

03:31:38.200 I think that's why

03:31:38.820 I rated myself a 10

03:31:39.760 because that's what

03:31:40.380 I truly believe

03:31:41.160 and even

03:31:41.700 when I may be like sick

03:31:44.660 or at my lowest,

03:31:45.420 I still think I'm a 10

03:31:46.340 in that moment

03:31:47.000 because of my mindset.

03:31:49.720 Can I bring up

03:31:50.420 something that's

03:31:51.360 kind of relevant

03:31:52.100 but it's a really

03:31:53.020 interesting topic to me?

03:31:55.000 Well,

03:31:56.820 hold on,

03:31:57.240 is it related

03:31:58.080 to the rating thing?

03:31:59.040 Yeah,

03:31:59.420 kind of.

03:31:59.840 Okay,

03:32:00.140 go ahead.

03:32:00.720 So,

03:32:01.320 it is.

03:32:02.880 So,

03:32:03.160 I think,

03:32:03.920 well,

03:32:04.160 in this society

03:32:04.840 we live in now,

03:32:05.700 right?

03:32:06.080 Yeah.

03:32:06.380 A lot of how

03:32:07.940 maybe we compare

03:32:09.160 ourselves

03:32:09.800 or how other people

03:32:11.380 compare you

03:32:13.240 is how they see

03:32:14.220 you online,

03:32:15.140 right?

03:32:15.700 And how you're

03:32:16.520 perceived on social media

03:32:17.840 and,

03:32:18.200 you know,

03:32:18.620 the whole social media

03:32:19.520 thing,

03:32:19.840 right?

03:32:20.060 so when

03:32:21.500 there's so much

03:32:23.060 AI now,

03:32:25.680 you know,

03:32:26.540 coming into

03:32:27.340 what?

03:32:28.640 And,

03:32:29.180 like,

03:32:29.720 for example,

03:32:30.460 some brands,

03:32:31.540 they're hiring a guy

03:32:33.200 to create an AI model

03:32:34.740 so she's obviously

03:32:37.460 very beautiful

03:32:38.160 so maybe in,

03:32:38.900 like,

03:32:39.000 five years

03:32:39.500 all the models online

03:32:40.780 are going to be

03:32:41.260 replaced with AI

03:32:42.220 so how do you think

03:32:43.940 it's going to change

03:32:44.740 our perception

03:32:45.400 how we're going to

03:32:46.060 rate ourselves?

03:32:47.260 How did we get here?

03:32:53.480 Well,

03:32:53.980 because think about it.

03:32:54.840 Well,

03:32:55.000 this is a really good

03:32:56.240 question.

03:32:56.760 It's an interesting

03:32:57.120 question.

03:32:57.400 No,

03:32:57.620 it definitely is

03:32:58.300 an interesting question.

03:32:59.260 I think it'll be

03:32:59.740 easier,

03:33:00.580 honestly,

03:33:01.240 if,

03:33:01.380 like,

03:33:01.880 all the,

03:33:02.380 like,

03:33:02.580 say you're going

03:33:03.120 through,

03:33:03.420 like,

03:33:04.260 like,

03:33:04.960 Amazon and you're

03:33:05.660 looking at,

03:33:06.160 like,

03:33:06.320 corsets or something

03:33:06.960 like that

03:33:07.320 or you're looking

03:33:07.660 at articles of

03:33:08.300 clothing,

03:33:08.680 like,

03:33:09.020 it's easier

03:33:09.800 to not compare

03:33:11.140 yourself to,

03:33:12.000 like,

03:33:12.540 not compare

03:33:13.060 yourself to the

03:33:13.600 models.

03:33:14.040 I'm talking

03:33:14.240 about the models

03:33:14.760 wearing the clothes.

03:33:16.300 Is it going to be

03:33:16.860 relevant in the

03:33:18.060 scheme of things?

03:33:18.680 It's not going

03:33:19.080 to be relevant

03:33:19.520 because AIs

03:33:20.200 aren't real,

03:33:20.840 though.

03:33:21.160 Like,

03:33:21.940 you're not going

03:33:22.440 to compare

03:33:22.780 yourself to a

03:33:23.300 fucking robot.

03:33:24.280 No,

03:33:24.300 I know,

03:33:24.740 but it's your

03:33:25.080 10 rating.

03:33:25.880 Except people

03:33:26.460 have,

03:33:27.540 that's the

03:33:28.180 set.

03:33:28.320 But we don't

03:33:30.080 live in the

03:33:30.500 world that's

03:33:31.120 real,

03:33:31.520 we live in the

03:33:32.180 world of

03:33:32.540 fucking make-believe,

03:33:33.620 so I wouldn't

03:33:33.980 worry too much

03:33:34.620 about it.

03:33:36.660 Yeah,

03:33:37.100 if it's AI,

03:33:37.700 it's all make-believe.

03:33:37.840 I feel like

03:33:38.340 we do.

03:33:40.160 Okay.

03:33:42.920 So everybody's

03:33:44.060 a 10,

03:33:44.800 all guys are 10.

03:33:45.980 Is there an

03:33:46.460 equal distribution

03:33:47.500 of 10 women

03:33:48.680 and 10 men?

03:33:51.260 Sure,

03:33:52.000 yeah,

03:33:52.980 I would say

03:33:53.460 so.

03:33:54.000 You guys want

03:33:54.560 to be so

03:33:54.980 politically correct.

03:33:55.820 I'm not trying

03:33:56.380 to be politically

03:33:56.980 correct,

03:33:57.400 this is just

03:33:57.880 how I am.

03:33:58.760 It's like,

03:33:59.360 yeah,

03:33:59.540 I guess I just

03:34:00.260 agree with

03:34:00.780 whatever you're

03:34:01.180 saying,

03:34:01.660 so I can't

03:34:02.280 get into an

03:34:02.800 argument.

03:34:03.520 Okay.

03:34:03.680 All right.

03:34:05.940 Well,

03:34:06.360 I'll have to

03:34:06.660 ask a different

03:34:07.160 question then.

03:34:08.400 Do you think

03:34:08.720 you'll be better

03:34:09.200 looking in 10

03:34:09.880 years than you

03:34:10.460 are now?

03:34:13.860 Starting with

03:34:14.440 you.

03:34:16.500 Into the mic.

03:34:18.200 I don't know.

03:34:18.800 Maybe.

03:34:19.440 Maybe.

03:34:20.180 Bro,

03:34:20.600 you've come on

03:34:21.780 a podcast.

03:34:22.700 Every answer,

03:34:23.500 I don't know,

03:34:24.080 maybe,

03:34:24.520 sure.

03:34:25.660 I'm going to

03:34:26.240 give you the

03:34:26.640 pass on the

03:34:27.160 10 thing,

03:34:27.620 but from here

03:34:28.020 on out,

03:34:28.440 just engage

03:34:29.360 with the actual

03:34:29.980 questions.

03:34:31.260 Well,

03:34:31.580 I don't know

03:34:32.420 how I'm

03:34:32.800 supposed to

03:34:33.180 answer that.

03:34:33.680 I want you

03:34:40.560 to repeat

03:34:41.600 back to me

03:34:42.220 the question

03:34:42.680 that I asked.

03:34:43.460 Go ahead.

03:34:45.060 You asked

03:34:46.060 how I would

03:34:47.220 look and

03:34:47.620 how you think

03:34:48.320 I would look

03:34:48.760 in what,

03:34:49.320 10 years,

03:34:49.740 you said?

03:34:50.520 Try again.

03:34:51.780 No,

03:34:52.300 no,

03:34:52.320 no.

03:34:53.020 Try again.

03:34:54.000 Okay,

03:34:54.240 then I don't

03:34:54.580 know.

03:34:55.200 You said it

03:34:55.740 once,

03:34:56.160 and I'm

03:34:56.380 supposed to

03:34:56.640 Yeah,

03:34:57.440 you're

03:34:57.620 supposed to

03:34:57.980 be listening

03:34:58.400 to the

03:34:58.680 conversation.

03:34:58.760 Are you

03:34:59.160 supposed to

03:34:59.560 remember

03:34:59.900 this thing

03:35:00.380 that he

03:35:00.620 asked you

03:35:01.020 once?

03:35:01.700 I mean,

03:35:01.900 that's a

03:35:03.180 tall order,

03:35:04.040 Brian.

03:35:04.460 Hang on,

03:35:04.960 Brian,

03:35:05.240 you are

03:35:05.520 asking a lot.

03:35:06.660 You're asking

03:35:07.360 them questions.

03:35:08.120 You're only

03:35:08.480 asking it one

03:35:09.060 time.

03:35:09.240 Maybe you

03:35:09.560 should just

03:35:09.900 repeat yourself

03:35:10.520 over and

03:35:11.640 over again.

03:35:12.120 With every

03:35:12.760 single person.

03:35:14.800 Okay,

03:35:15.740 I will

03:35:16.160 repeat the

03:35:16.980 question.

03:35:18.180 Do you

03:35:18.520 think you

03:35:19.460 will be

03:35:19.800 better looking,

03:35:20.980 your looks,

03:35:22.060 will you be

03:35:22.700 better looking

03:35:23.420 in 10

03:35:24.580 years as

03:35:25.800 compared to

03:35:26.760 how you

03:35:27.360 look now?

03:35:28.780 So,

03:35:29.160 you're 22.

03:35:30.020 Will you

03:35:30.480 be better

03:35:30.840 looking at

03:35:31.300 32 than

03:35:32.060 you are

03:35:32.320 now at

03:35:32.640 22?

03:35:33.500 Probably

03:35:33.940 not.

03:35:34.660 I mean,

03:35:36.360 probably not,

03:35:37.480 no, I

03:35:38.160 guess.

03:35:39.020 Okay.

03:35:40.140 Yes.

03:35:41.060 So,

03:35:41.340 you'll be

03:35:41.520 better looking

03:35:42.100 at 32 than

03:35:43.140 you are now

03:35:43.520 at 22?

03:35:44.120 I believe

03:35:44.500 so, yes.

03:35:45.000 What about

03:35:45.300 42?

03:35:48.640 Probably

03:35:49.120 not.

03:35:49.920 Okay,

03:35:50.340 what about

03:35:50.640 you?

03:35:51.020 You're 26,

03:35:51.980 better looking

03:35:53.420 at 36?

03:35:54.360 Yeah.

03:35:54.760 Better looking

03:35:55.260 at 46?

03:35:56.300 Yeah.

03:35:57.360 Better looking

03:35:57.820 at 56?

03:35:59.880 Let's start

03:36:00.780 get a little

03:36:01.520 bit more

03:36:02.360 down.

03:36:03.780 Yeah.

03:36:04.460 Just a little

03:36:04.900 bit.

03:36:04.960 Just to be

03:36:05.320 clear,

03:36:05.900 so better

03:36:06.260 looking at

03:36:06.680 46 than

03:36:07.520 26?

03:36:09.160 Yes.

03:36:10.200 Okay.

03:36:12.060 And so,

03:36:13.260 are you

03:36:13.820 peaking in

03:36:14.300 your late

03:36:14.680 40s,

03:36:15.800 looks-wise?

03:36:16.860 It's not

03:36:17.840 about, like,

03:36:19.080 peaking.

03:36:19.860 What's it

03:36:20.240 about?

03:36:21.480 It's more

03:36:22.240 about the

03:36:24.120 internal power

03:36:25.040 that comes

03:36:25.580 with the

03:36:25.880 wisdom.

03:36:26.460 Here, repeat

03:36:26.940 the question

03:36:27.340 back to me.

03:36:27.920 Okay, it's

03:36:28.480 about the

03:36:29.080 hotter-

03:36:29.860 No, no, no,

03:36:30.200 just repeat

03:36:30.660 the question

03:36:31.020 back to me.

03:36:31.480 Do you think

03:36:31.760 you'll be

03:36:32.180 hotter looking?

03:36:32.840 That's not

03:36:33.180 what I said.

03:36:33.760 Repeat the

03:36:34.120 question back.

03:36:34.680 Or do you

03:36:35.000 think you'll

03:36:35.300 be better

03:36:35.760 looking at

03:36:36.640 46?

03:36:38.280 Yeah, so

03:36:38.880 I do think

03:36:40.240 so.

03:36:40.780 Better looking,

03:36:41.800 visual.

03:36:42.580 Okay, yes.

03:36:43.220 How does that

03:36:44.100 have anything

03:36:44.500 to do with

03:36:44.960 your internal

03:36:45.720 wisdom?

03:36:47.380 Wisdom.

03:36:48.040 Okay, okay,

03:36:48.800 yes.

03:36:49.480 Okay, yes.

03:36:50.520 Hold on.

03:36:51.040 Anonymous

03:36:51.440 donated $200.

03:36:54.000 First time

03:36:54.880 donating.

03:36:56.000 Shout out

03:36:56.560 to Margarita.

03:36:57.840 I'm a huge

03:36:58.600 fan.

03:36:59.620 All of you

03:37:00.140 should listen

03:37:00.600 to her band

03:37:01.380 Edge of

03:37:02.040 Paradise.

03:37:02.520 Take care.

03:37:05.960 Aw, that's

03:37:06.520 awesome.

03:37:06.860 Thank you,

03:37:07.640 man.

03:37:07.680 That was the

03:37:08.060 sweetest comment.

03:37:08.980 Thank you.

03:37:09.360 Appreciate it.

03:37:10.540 All right.

03:37:11.640 So I'm more

03:37:13.260 on the track

03:37:14.560 now.

03:37:16.040 So, okay.

03:37:16.700 So I do

03:37:17.200 think I will

03:37:17.800 be better

03:37:18.340 looking at

03:37:18.940 46 because

03:37:19.620 with my

03:37:20.220 health, I

03:37:21.200 am trying to

03:37:21.880 get better

03:37:22.320 every single

03:37:22.960 day.

03:37:23.700 And I do

03:37:24.860 find women

03:37:25.840 in their

03:37:26.360 40s really,

03:37:27.700 really attractive.

03:37:29.200 And I just

03:37:30.320 can't help.

03:37:30.680 Repeat the

03:37:31.060 question back

03:37:31.700 to me.

03:37:32.320 Do you

03:37:32.560 think you

03:37:32.960 will be

03:37:33.240 better looking

03:37:33.960 at 46?

03:37:34.600 Yes, I

03:37:34.940 do.

03:37:35.860 Okay.

03:37:36.300 But so the

03:37:36.760 question wasn't

03:37:37.580 do you think

03:37:38.360 you'll still

03:37:39.160 be attractive

03:37:39.800 at 46?

03:37:41.100 I didn't say

03:37:42.040 still.

03:37:42.880 I'm not saying

03:37:43.380 women can't

03:37:44.120 be attractive

03:37:44.500 in their

03:37:45.380 40s.

03:37:46.080 But I

03:37:46.300 didn't say

03:37:46.640 still.

03:37:47.160 I said I

03:37:47.700 do think I

03:37:48.380 will be

03:37:48.960 better looking

03:37:49.920 in my

03:37:50.420 40s because

03:37:51.400 with my

03:37:52.280 health.

03:37:52.820 But you

03:37:52.960 said because

03:37:54.100 I've seen

03:37:54.620 women who

03:37:55.060 are in their

03:37:55.580 40s and

03:37:56.440 they're

03:37:56.700 attractive.

03:37:58.140 I'm not

03:37:58.780 saying that

03:37:59.420 that's not

03:37:59.840 the case.

03:38:00.720 Because I'm

03:38:01.080 working on

03:38:01.540 my own

03:38:02.340 personal health.

03:38:03.160 She said in the

03:38:03.180 beginning that

03:38:03.560 she has a lot

03:38:03.920 of health

03:38:04.180 issues.

03:38:04.940 Right.

03:38:05.100 So assuming

03:38:06.660 your health

03:38:08.180 did not

03:38:08.640 improve in

03:38:10.460 the negative

03:38:10.920 or towards

03:38:11.700 the positive

03:38:12.180 at all,

03:38:12.600 it just

03:38:12.820 remained

03:38:13.320 precisely how

03:38:14.440 it is,

03:38:15.400 although that's

03:38:15.860 typically not

03:38:16.320 the case as

03:38:16.800 you age,

03:38:17.340 typically as

03:38:17.760 you age,

03:38:18.320 especially over

03:38:18.760 the course of

03:38:19.200 20 years,

03:38:20.180 your health is

03:38:20.660 typically not

03:38:21.660 going to be

03:38:22.180 better.

03:38:23.080 But I'll just

03:38:23.620 grant that it'll

03:38:24.560 just remain the

03:38:25.360 same.

03:38:25.620 will you

03:38:26.480 be better

03:38:26.800 looking in

03:38:27.200 20 years?

03:38:28.540 From my

03:38:29.460 own personal

03:38:30.280 perspective,

03:38:30.860 I do think

03:38:31.660 so.

03:38:32.080 But you

03:38:32.860 said because

03:38:34.120 of health

03:38:34.780 reasons,

03:38:35.360 and I've

03:38:35.760 excluded you

03:38:36.700 using health

03:38:37.960 reasons.

03:38:38.740 And that's

03:38:39.300 fine.

03:38:39.680 I just

03:38:40.080 think that...

03:38:40.740 So what are

03:38:41.000 the other

03:38:41.500 reasons that

03:38:42.220 you'll look

03:38:42.620 better than?

03:38:44.820 Because to

03:38:45.500 me personally,

03:38:46.900 a mature

03:38:48.040 woman looks

03:38:49.660 really more

03:38:51.020 beautiful.

03:38:51.600 beautiful.

03:38:52.320 So it's

03:38:52.980 really just

03:38:53.620 about the

03:38:54.340 external beauty

03:38:55.740 of it all.

03:38:56.360 If that is

03:38:58.000 actually the

03:38:58.740 case,

03:38:59.180 that you

03:38:59.540 believe,

03:39:00.540 from your

03:39:00.940 perspective,

03:39:01.740 that women

03:39:02.260 who are

03:39:02.680 mature look

03:39:03.340 more beautiful,

03:39:04.420 then why don't

03:39:04.900 you do makeup

03:39:05.400 to make

03:39:05.760 yourself look

03:39:06.280 older?

03:39:07.260 Because I

03:39:07.820 don't actually

03:39:08.260 usually wear

03:39:09.160 makeup at

03:39:09.880 all.

03:39:11.160 I've only

03:39:11.640 done my

03:39:12.120 eyes...

03:39:12.480 You're wearing

03:39:12.700 makeup right

03:39:12.720 now.

03:39:13.160 So again,

03:39:13.760 I've only

03:39:14.140 done my

03:39:14.500 eyes for

03:39:15.080 the podcast,

03:39:16.060 but typically...

03:39:16.380 How come

03:39:16.540 you didn't

03:39:16.800 do your

03:39:17.060 eyes in such

03:39:17.640 a way to

03:39:17.940 make yourself

03:39:18.360 look 10

03:39:18.760 years older?

03:39:19.660 That's a

03:39:20.160 fantastic

03:39:20.900 argument,

03:39:21.340 by the

03:39:21.680 way.

03:39:21.940 Because I

03:39:22.600 don't make

03:39:23.300 anything

03:39:23.860 different about

03:39:25.440 myself.

03:39:25.980 I only

03:39:26.660 accentuate what

03:39:28.740 I already

03:39:29.200 have.

03:39:29.780 So when I'm

03:39:30.220 older,

03:39:30.680 I would just

03:39:31.320 accentuate.

03:39:31.400 What would

03:39:31.480 be the point

03:39:31.900 of that?

03:39:32.420 If you

03:39:32.820 believe that

03:39:33.500 mature women

03:39:34.080 are more

03:39:34.420 beautiful than

03:39:35.020 younger women

03:39:35.680 and you

03:39:36.500 have makeup

03:39:37.540 and you

03:39:38.060 can use the

03:39:38.620 makeup to

03:39:39.040 make yourself

03:39:39.500 look more

03:39:40.200 mature,

03:39:41.060 why wouldn't

03:39:41.560 you then just

03:39:42.100 use the

03:39:42.480 makeup to

03:39:42.880 make yourself

03:39:43.400 look more

03:39:44.060 mature?

03:39:44.520 That makes

03:39:44.800 no sense

03:39:45.220 to me.

03:39:45.420 Why would

03:39:45.940 I look...

03:39:46.520 makeup does

03:39:46.800 make you

03:39:47.160 look older?

03:39:48.080 It does make

03:39:48.620 you look more

03:39:49.020 mature.

03:39:49.540 I'm going to

03:39:49.920 look a lot

03:39:51.140 younger if

03:39:51.720 I don't

03:39:51.940 have...

03:39:52.300 No, but

03:39:52.540 it doesn't

03:39:52.940 make you

03:39:53.300 look aged.

03:39:54.740 So the

03:39:55.300 thing is that

03:39:56.040 when you're

03:39:56.400 talking about

03:39:56.800 age for

03:39:57.560 maturity, which

03:39:58.240 is what we're

03:39:58.500 talking about

03:39:59.040 for maturity,

03:39:59.780 not emotional

03:40:00.660 maturity, whatever

03:40:01.440 bullshit you come

03:40:02.140 up with, just

03:40:03.000 age, why don't

03:40:04.800 you use makeup

03:40:05.480 to make yourself

03:40:06.220 appear to be

03:40:07.300 40 if you

03:40:08.700 think that that

03:40:09.600 would actually

03:40:10.060 enhance your

03:40:10.760 beauty?

03:40:11.060 To add on to

03:40:12.140 that, so if

03:40:13.180 you look at

03:40:13.660 movies, for

03:40:14.300 example, they

03:40:14.980 do have makeup

03:40:16.280 techniques that

03:40:17.120 can make them

03:40:18.000 look older, but

03:40:19.120 you don't

03:40:19.540 typically see

03:40:20.260 women using

03:40:21.580 those techniques

03:40:22.460 that would

03:40:23.340 create perhaps

03:40:24.180 the perception

03:40:24.740 of more wrinkles

03:40:25.480 on the face,

03:40:26.560 for example.

03:40:27.160 If it was the

03:40:28.000 case that women

03:40:28.560 were more

03:40:29.440 attractive when

03:40:30.060 they were

03:40:30.300 older...

03:40:30.680 To me

03:40:30.900 personally, because

03:40:32.060 that was the

03:40:32.820 question.

03:40:33.620 That was the

03:40:34.220 question.

03:40:34.580 Most women do

03:40:35.140 want to be more

03:40:35.640 youthful.

03:40:36.320 I think that

03:40:37.340 that's even worse

03:40:38.000 though, because if

03:40:38.760 it's only a

03:40:39.400 personal standard, and

03:40:40.640 you're only upholding

03:40:41.620 yourself to a

03:40:42.380 personal standard, and

03:40:43.640 your personal standard

03:40:44.460 is that if you

03:40:45.160 were older, you

03:40:45.840 would look better,

03:40:46.880 why in the hell

03:40:47.540 wouldn't you

03:40:48.100 personally apply

03:40:49.300 the makeup to

03:40:50.260 make yourself

03:40:50.740 personally look

03:40:51.580 older?

03:40:52.380 Because why would

03:40:53.040 I change what I

03:40:54.080 look like at

03:40:55.060 all?

03:40:55.780 Oh, so hang

03:40:57.380 on, hang on,

03:40:57.820 wait a second.

03:40:58.560 So you don't

03:40:58.980 diet, you don't

03:40:59.680 exercise, you

03:41:00.460 don't go jogging,

03:41:01.280 you don't do

03:41:01.760 anything to change

03:41:02.660 any of the ways

03:41:03.160 that you look.

03:41:03.580 I actually don't.

03:41:05.960 You don't do

03:41:06.580 anything ever to

03:41:07.920 change...

03:41:08.220 I don't exercise,

03:41:09.160 I don't do

03:41:09.620 anything to change

03:41:10.440 my appearance.

03:41:10.960 You don't comb

03:41:11.140 your hair?

03:41:12.340 Okay, well I

03:41:13.000 comb my hair so

03:41:13.980 that...

03:41:14.080 You don't pluck

03:41:14.320 your eyebrows?

03:41:16.100 Okay, you

03:41:16.640 do all of

03:41:19.080 these things.

03:41:19.580 Yeah, and I

03:41:19.880 used to dye my

03:41:20.460 hair all the

03:41:21.040 time because

03:41:21.620 that's just a

03:41:22.540 reflective of my

03:41:23.500 personality at

03:41:24.280 that particular

03:41:25.480 time.

03:41:26.520 Again, okay,

03:41:27.920 everything is a

03:41:29.100 constant change,

03:41:30.020 but like why

03:41:30.500 would I make

03:41:31.280 myself...

03:41:31.720 No, I don't

03:41:32.360 do yoga.

03:41:33.740 I can do

03:41:34.760 yoga with my

03:41:35.520 mobility.

03:41:38.420 So I

03:41:39.080 actually, when

03:41:40.260 I was 16...

03:41:40.980 Yeah, look at the

03:41:41.000 vascularity on the

03:41:41.920 deltoid, like...

03:41:43.080 Yeah, so I...

03:41:45.160 I actually, when

03:41:46.060 I was 16, I

03:41:46.720 wanted to be a

03:41:47.340 bodybuilder.

03:41:49.880 And I trained, and

03:41:51.640 after like six

03:41:53.740 months, I've

03:41:54.420 realized that I

03:41:55.660 am not putting the

03:41:56.540 muscle that I want

03:41:57.580 in comparison to my

03:41:58.620 boyfriend, and I

03:41:59.340 quit.

03:41:59.620 So I'll ask my

03:42:00.200 magic wand question.

03:42:01.400 So if right now I

03:42:02.780 could wave a magic

03:42:03.600 wand and you

03:42:05.060 could advance your

03:42:06.000 outside physical

03:42:07.520 appearance 20

03:42:08.580 years, it would

03:42:09.880 have no impact on

03:42:10.660 your health, for

03:42:11.320 example.

03:42:11.620 You wouldn't age

03:42:12.500 20 years in

03:42:13.620 terms because, you

03:42:14.200 know, people

03:42:14.540 have a, you

03:42:15.880 know, what's

03:42:17.300 the average age

03:42:18.380 of death.

03:42:18.780 It wouldn't get

03:42:19.220 you 20 years

03:42:19.880 closer to your,

03:42:21.100 the age you

03:42:21.860 would otherwise

03:42:22.360 die at.

03:42:22.920 Just your outward

03:42:23.660 appearance, no

03:42:24.840 health ramifications.

03:42:26.400 So absolutely

03:42:27.180 nothing could

03:42:28.180 change.

03:42:28.360 No negative

03:42:28.680 health ramifications.

03:42:30.180 You just advance

03:42:31.220 your age, your

03:42:33.280 appearance forward

03:42:34.360 20 years.

03:42:36.560 Okay.

03:42:36.820 Well, if I

03:42:37.380 wouldn't have to

03:42:37.960 put on makeup

03:42:38.580 every day to

03:42:39.980 make myself look

03:42:40.700 older, and it

03:42:41.200 just magically would

03:42:42.580 happen, I

03:42:44.180 would totally do

03:42:45.080 it.

03:42:45.200 You'd age

03:42:45.800 yourself 20

03:42:46.520 years outwardly.

03:42:47.500 Yeah, if it

03:42:48.080 does not have

03:42:48.620 any effect on

03:42:49.420 my health, it

03:42:50.200 does not do

03:42:51.920 anything in how

03:42:53.340 close I am to

03:42:54.440 death.

03:42:55.180 Like, yeah, no,

03:42:56.540 I do think that...

03:42:58.840 What about 40

03:43:00.160 years?

03:43:02.700 In 40 years?

03:43:03.980 So that would

03:43:04.300 be like...

03:43:04.440 40, 40.

03:43:05.920 Well, that's what

03:43:06.880 we were talking

03:43:07.360 about.

03:43:07.480 I think she said

03:43:08.080 after 30.

03:43:08.580 Would you age

03:43:09.420 yourself forward

03:43:10.100 with the same

03:43:10.700 scenario?

03:43:11.440 It doesn't take

03:43:12.020 40 years off

03:43:12.820 your life, you

03:43:13.340 just cosmetically

03:43:14.100 look 40 years

03:43:15.280 older.

03:43:15.740 Yeah, that's

03:43:16.220 what we were

03:43:16.600 talking about.

03:43:17.320 Hang on, so

03:43:17.680 you look like

03:43:18.100 you're 60.

03:43:19.100 Would you

03:43:19.440 prefer to walk

03:43:20.160 around looking

03:43:20.620 like you're

03:43:21.000 60?

03:43:21.700 No, I do

03:43:23.080 think that

03:43:23.520 after, like,

03:43:24.480 once I get

03:43:25.120 in my 50s,

03:43:26.720 I would not...

03:43:29.320 The skin would

03:43:30.300 sag in a way

03:43:31.080 that I wouldn't

03:43:31.600 necessarily be,

03:43:33.260 you know...

03:43:34.920 Okay.

03:43:35.360 Okay, I'm

03:43:37.760 talking about

03:43:38.780 my own

03:43:39.420 personal genes

03:43:40.460 with my

03:43:41.060 grandmother,

03:43:41.600 who I look

03:43:41.980 very much

03:43:42.520 alike, so

03:43:43.440 I do not

03:43:44.540 think I would

03:43:44.920 be attractive

03:43:45.480 after that

03:43:46.400 particular age.

03:43:47.900 That's it.

03:43:48.140 Okay, that's

03:43:48.620 fair, so you

03:43:49.100 think that women

03:43:49.680 in their 50s

03:43:50.400 generally aren't

03:43:51.060 10s, right?

03:43:51.720 No, I

03:43:52.300 personally...

03:43:53.180 Again, we're

03:43:53.480 talking about

03:43:53.860 me personally.

03:43:55.440 I have dated

03:43:56.280 women in their

03:43:57.060 50s.

03:43:57.600 Yeah, I'm

03:43:58.800 talking about

03:43:59.280 you personally.

03:43:59.920 I've dated

03:44:00.000 women in their

03:44:00.660 60s, and

03:44:02.380 they were

03:44:02.780 gorgeous.

03:44:04.660 Okay, so

03:44:05.340 wait a second.

03:44:06.480 I'm not saying

03:44:06.860 that some women

03:44:07.900 in their 60s...

03:44:08.800 Stop.

03:44:09.360 I'm not saying

03:44:09.840 some women

03:44:10.280 in their 60s

03:44:10.940 can't be gorgeous,

03:44:12.060 though how many

03:44:12.580 women in their

03:44:13.140 60s you've

03:44:13.720 dated, I'm

03:44:14.200 skeptical of,

03:44:15.080 but assuming

03:44:15.700 for a second

03:44:16.320 that even you

03:44:17.440 have dated

03:44:18.100 women in

03:44:18.720 their 60s,

03:44:19.660 and they

03:44:20.320 happen to be

03:44:20.980 gorgeous,

03:44:21.760 it does sound

03:44:22.480 like you think

03:44:23.020 that most women

03:44:23.860 in their 60s

03:44:24.980 likely are not

03:44:25.920 gorgeous.

03:44:27.800 No?

03:44:29.100 No?

03:44:29.760 So then why

03:44:30.420 wouldn't you

03:44:30.780 want to be

03:44:31.160 aged to 60?

03:44:32.340 Because I just

03:44:33.660 like the

03:44:34.580 40 stage,

03:44:36.500 like that's

03:44:37.060 when I think

03:44:37.600 is the peak

03:44:38.480 for the

03:44:39.800 beauty with

03:44:41.020 my particular

03:44:41.980 jeans, because

03:44:42.860 that's when my

03:44:43.660 grandmother was

03:44:44.420 the most

03:44:44.760 beautiful, that's

03:44:45.840 when I would

03:44:46.300 feel the most

03:44:46.900 empowered.

03:44:48.940 You're a

03:44:49.300 super colossal

03:44:50.080 big baby,

03:44:50.760 donated $200.

03:44:53.000 Why do women

03:44:53.660 always make it

03:44:54.640 about feelings

03:44:55.360 no one cares

03:44:56.360 about the

03:44:56.800 internals they

03:44:57.660 are asking

03:44:58.220 about external

03:44:59.160 looks?

03:44:59.800 And me too,

03:45:00.540 I'm talking

03:45:00.920 about external

03:45:01.900 looks.

03:45:02.320 I think my

03:45:03.000 grandmother

03:45:03.440 looked gorgeous

03:45:04.420 in her 40s.

03:45:05.540 I know I

03:45:06.020 will look

03:45:06.460 very similar

03:45:07.480 to her.

03:45:08.480 And then in

03:45:09.320 her 50s, her

03:45:10.660 body started to

03:45:11.560 change in the

03:45:12.260 ways that I

03:45:12.920 would rather my

03:45:13.720 body not change.

03:45:14.840 Also, you guys

03:45:16.800 are asking an

03:45:17.840 opinion-based

03:45:19.020 question.

03:45:19.480 Exactly.

03:45:20.180 And so if

03:45:20.940 somebody prefers

03:45:22.320 to look a

03:45:23.380 certain way,

03:45:24.620 then you can

03:45:25.940 say that they're

03:45:26.700 wrong because you

03:45:27.340 have a different

03:45:27.820 opinion all day

03:45:28.660 long until you're

03:45:29.220 blue in the face,

03:45:29.840 but her opinion's

03:45:30.520 not going to

03:45:30.940 change on it.

03:45:31.560 So it's like I

03:45:32.880 love a debate and

03:45:34.080 I love disagreeing

03:45:35.380 opinions, but her

03:45:36.800 opinion's not

03:45:37.400 changed.

03:45:38.020 I don't think it's

03:45:38.560 going to change.

03:45:39.460 So it's like what's

03:45:40.580 the point in talking

03:45:41.140 in circles about it?

03:45:42.180 I don't understand.

03:45:43.080 You know what I

03:45:43.360 mean?

03:45:43.640 I agree.

03:45:44.020 Because reality is

03:45:45.300 that.

03:45:45.360 I'm actually happy

03:45:45.680 to engage with

03:45:46.440 what you just

03:45:46.880 said.

03:45:47.360 So let's start

03:45:47.880 here.

03:45:48.820 You do agree

03:45:49.440 with me that

03:45:50.060 people can have

03:45:51.440 all sorts of

03:45:52.280 different opinions,

03:45:53.120 but they're not

03:45:53.480 necessarily going

03:45:54.260 to be honest with

03:45:55.080 you about what

03:45:55.620 their actual

03:45:56.060 opinion is,

03:45:56.720 right?

03:45:56.920 Not necessarily.

03:45:58.080 They could be

03:45:58.560 honest with you,

03:45:59.200 but they also

03:45:59.620 could lie about

03:46:00.300 their opinion.

03:46:00.760 100%.

03:46:02.320 I'm asking her.

03:46:04.500 Hang on.

03:46:04.700 Let her answer.

03:46:05.320 Oh, sorry.

03:46:06.500 I do agree that

03:46:08.040 you can have

03:46:08.860 different opinions

03:46:09.980 and that each

03:46:11.120 person might not

03:46:11.960 be honest about

03:46:12.820 their opinion or

03:46:13.500 forthcoming about

03:46:14.320 it, but in a

03:46:15.800 rebuttal...

03:46:15.940 Hang on.

03:46:16.520 Hang on.

03:46:17.080 So you can do

03:46:18.640 through a series

03:46:19.300 of inquiries by

03:46:20.860 testing what it

03:46:22.460 is that they are

03:46:23.380 claiming, whether

03:46:24.960 or not if we map

03:46:25.980 it onto reality,

03:46:27.140 if they would

03:46:27.620 hold that same

03:46:28.400 opinion or if they

03:46:29.640 would change that

03:46:30.240 opinion.

03:46:30.760 So it's possible

03:46:32.000 that people are

03:46:32.620 not always going

03:46:33.200 to be forthcoming

03:46:33.960 or honest about

03:46:34.820 their opinion.

03:46:35.720 And so when you

03:46:36.160 say, well, it's

03:46:36.600 just an opinion,

03:46:37.660 that doesn't

03:46:38.180 really mean

03:46:38.700 anything.

03:46:39.460 There's a good

03:46:39.800 possibility that

03:46:41.000 people, if they

03:46:41.960 don't like the

03:46:42.400 ramifications of

03:46:43.540 where a question

03:46:44.240 is going with

03:46:44.960 their opinion,

03:46:45.540 may not answer

03:46:46.140 it honestly.

03:46:47.220 But you're asking

03:46:47.920 for an opinion.

03:46:48.760 But why...

03:46:49.260 Okay, but when

03:46:50.920 she is saying

03:46:52.300 something that's

03:46:52.920 completely different

03:46:53.720 from everyone

03:46:54.400 else at the

03:46:54.980 table, why

03:46:56.420 would she put

03:46:56.960 herself in

03:46:58.000 a theoretical

03:47:01.020 wrong point

03:47:02.140 of view if

03:47:03.720 it's not going

03:47:04.180 to do her

03:47:04.500 any good?

03:47:04.900 She could have

03:47:05.260 easily lied and

03:47:06.300 gone with the

03:47:06.720 same opinion that

03:47:07.340 everyone else wants

03:47:08.120 her to say, but

03:47:09.140 instead she's holding

03:47:10.140 her ground.

03:47:10.280 see if what you're

03:47:10.820 saying makes sense

03:47:12.600 or if what I'm

03:47:13.140 saying makes sense.

03:47:14.000 Let us assume for

03:47:14.700 a second you were

03:47:15.360 the only woman in

03:47:16.140 that room who

03:47:16.680 believed in Santa

03:47:17.480 Claus.

03:47:18.360 I'm assuming you

03:47:19.040 don't believe that

03:47:19.700 Santa Claus exists,

03:47:20.660 correct?

03:47:22.140 Are you talking

03:47:22.480 to me or her?

03:47:23.000 No.

03:47:23.360 Yeah, you don't

03:47:24.740 believe.

03:47:25.100 But let us assume

03:47:25.740 for a second you

03:47:26.440 did believe that

03:47:27.140 Santa Claus existed

03:47:27.980 and none of the

03:47:28.520 other women there

03:47:29.080 did, and you

03:47:29.460 said it's just my

03:47:30.140 opinion.

03:47:30.980 And so then I

03:47:31.520 pulled up a bunch

03:47:32.100 of maps and I

03:47:32.840 showed you that in

03:47:33.800 the North Pole...

03:47:34.020 But that's a fact.

03:47:34.880 Hang on.

03:47:35.500 Stop.

03:47:36.340 That in the North Pole

03:47:37.240 there is no elves

03:47:38.320 and there is no

03:47:38.980 Santa and all the

03:47:39.820 satellite imaging we

03:47:40.740 have would show

03:47:41.340 that if such a

03:47:41.980 thing existed

03:47:42.560 everybody, you

03:47:43.720 would literally be

03:47:44.660 eliminated because

03:47:45.460 of the extreme

03:47:46.060 cold and that I

03:47:47.640 mathematically

03:47:48.160 demonstrated for

03:47:49.020 you that it

03:47:49.440 would be impossible

03:47:50.060 for one man to

03:47:51.240 deliver toys all

03:47:52.040 over the earth

03:47:52.540 in the middle of

03:47:53.020 the night and

03:47:53.560 that magic isn't

03:47:54.360 real.

03:47:54.920 Hang on.

03:47:56.180 Could that change

03:47:57.060 your opinion?

03:47:58.460 See what you're

03:47:58.960 asking is not an

03:48:01.100 opinion based question

03:48:02.180 like what Brian

03:48:03.480 asked about would

03:48:04.640 you feel like you

03:48:05.320 look better in 10

03:48:06.400 years time, 20

03:48:07.140 years time, etc.

03:48:07.960 That is an

03:48:08.900 opinion based

03:48:09.460 question.

03:48:09.900 I can have the

03:48:10.520 opinion that yes,

03:48:11.460 I will look better.

03:48:12.400 Do you think Santa

03:48:13.960 Claus comes down your

03:48:14.800 chimney at night?

03:48:15.440 I'm going to tell you

03:48:15.740 to stop so I'm going

03:48:16.520 to tell you to stop

03:48:17.060 now because I'm not

03:48:17.940 done talking.

03:48:19.220 Okay?

03:48:19.800 So when I have an

03:48:21.560 opinion...

03:48:21.780 You go girl.

03:48:22.640 You show me that

03:48:23.440 sass.

03:48:24.660 You tell him.

03:48:25.800 You tell that mean

03:48:27.040 man on the screen.

03:48:27.880 Girl, you go.

03:48:29.640 I'm not trying to be

03:48:30.740 sassy.

03:48:31.020 You're so good.

03:48:31.700 See, I'm not trying

03:48:32.540 to be sassy and no

03:48:33.740 way am I trying to be

03:48:34.820 rude to you in any way

03:48:36.300 I'm not laughing at your

03:48:37.360 opinion.

03:48:37.920 I'm not trying to like

03:48:39.180 be sassy in any sense

03:48:40.640 way or form.

03:48:41.300 I'm literally just

03:48:42.000 talking to you and

03:48:43.000 you're telling me stop

03:48:44.040 in the middle of my

03:48:44.820 conversation.

03:48:45.740 So yes, I'm going to

03:48:46.600 do the same to you

03:48:47.440 and tell you to pause

03:48:48.200 and let me finish my

03:48:49.320 thought because now

03:48:50.240 you've derailed my

03:48:51.040 train of thought.

03:48:52.740 Okay.

03:48:53.080 Yeah, but it was my

03:48:53.920 turn to speak.

03:48:54.500 That's why I asked you

03:48:55.000 to stop.

03:48:55.520 Yeah.

03:48:56.140 And it was my turn

03:48:57.020 to speak and you

03:48:58.060 started so that's why

03:48:58.820 I said stop and then

03:48:59.600 you called me sassy

03:49:00.560 but I didn't call you

03:49:01.420 names when you told me

03:49:02.300 to stop.

03:49:02.640 You're sassy.

03:49:03.200 You just made that

03:49:03.700 up.

03:49:04.300 See, okay.

03:49:05.280 I think you just like

03:49:06.320 to talk over women.

03:49:07.360 I remember seeing a

03:49:08.220 clip of you calling a

03:49:08.920 woman a bitch on here

03:49:09.720 too so don't even get

03:49:10.540 me started.

03:49:11.040 I would like to

03:49:11.480 finish my thought

03:49:12.200 real quick.

03:49:12.300 Was she being a stupid

03:49:12.960 bitch?

03:49:13.300 I don't care.

03:49:13.920 I would like to

03:49:14.420 finish my thought.

03:49:14.800 You don't care?

03:49:16.040 What is she being a

03:49:16.880 stupid bitch?

03:49:18.920 Do you think that

03:49:20.000 women are incapable of

03:49:21.260 being stupid bitches?

03:49:22.700 Because man, I got to

03:49:23.860 tell you, the number

03:49:24.800 one insult I hear from

03:49:25.900 women about other

03:49:26.580 women is this word.

03:49:28.780 Bitch.

03:49:29.340 She's a bitch.

03:49:30.380 That's the number one

03:49:31.480 insult I hear.

03:49:33.120 Can I ask you a

03:49:33.860 question?

03:49:34.560 Can I ask you a

03:49:37.240 question?

03:49:38.140 Well, I'd like her to

03:49:38.820 finish her exchange for

03:49:39.840 Rand.

03:49:40.260 She's welcome to.

03:49:41.380 No, I'm good.

03:49:41.940 I'd rather not be

03:49:42.660 talked over so it's

03:49:43.400 fine.

03:49:44.100 It's fine.

03:49:44.400 All I was trying to

03:49:46.640 say was that he

03:49:48.520 asked an opinion

03:49:49.200 based question,

03:49:50.120 correct?

03:49:50.780 So it's an opinion.

03:49:52.300 What you said and

03:49:53.320 your counter argument

03:49:54.060 was do I believe in

03:49:55.140 Santa Claus if I

03:49:55.800 believed in Santa

03:49:56.220 That's a factual

03:49:57.840 question.

03:49:58.340 Santa Claus does not

03:49:59.120 exist.

03:50:00.120 So there's no, that's

03:50:01.520 not the same type of

03:50:02.480 question.

03:50:03.200 You're asking a

03:50:03.820 factual question rather

03:50:05.200 than an opinion based

03:50:06.080 question.

03:50:07.100 And I want to

03:50:08.400 apologize if I came

03:50:09.840 off sassy by telling

03:50:10.780 you to stop but I

03:50:11.560 simply did the exact

03:50:12.540 same thing that you

03:50:13.600 did to me.

03:50:14.400 But don't you

03:50:16.060 think when you're

03:50:17.200 talking about an

03:50:17.900 opinion, when you're

03:50:19.460 saying, okay, such

03:50:20.420 and such opinion,

03:50:21.900 don't you think that

03:50:23.040 an opinion that you

03:50:23.840 hold is a fact to

03:50:25.120 you?

03:50:25.760 This is factual to

03:50:26.900 you.

03:50:26.980 There's a difference

03:50:27.460 between a fact and

03:50:28.400 an opinion.

03:50:30.560 Oh, really?

03:50:31.280 What's the difference?

03:50:31.920 You can have an

03:50:32.640 opinion about anything

03:50:34.400 and it not be a

03:50:35.600 personal opinion.

03:50:36.420 And you're asking a

03:50:37.680 personal opinion based

03:50:38.960 question whether you

03:50:40.200 think you look better

03:50:41.060 at so and so age and

03:50:43.060 that is up to the

03:50:44.260 person that thinks

03:50:45.680 whatever they want to

03:50:46.440 think, whether it's

03:50:47.040 they look better

03:50:47.520 younger, older,

03:50:48.300 whatever.

03:50:48.940 I'm not agreeing that

03:50:50.220 I would look, I don't

03:50:51.080 think I would look

03:50:51.880 better in 10 years,

03:50:52.900 20 years, but I'm not

03:50:54.500 going to discredit her

03:50:55.640 opinion and it's not

03:50:57.180 the same as asking if

03:50:58.180 Santa Claus exists.

03:50:59.840 So...

03:51:00.080 What if your opinion

03:51:00.700 was that Santa Claus

03:51:01.780 existed?

03:51:02.580 Wouldn't that be a

03:51:03.220 fact to you?

03:51:03.720 That's not a fact

03:51:04.680 though.

03:51:05.080 In reality, Santa Claus

03:51:07.040 doesn't exist.

03:51:08.200 I'm not saying it's

03:51:09.120 true.

03:51:09.740 I'm asking if it would

03:51:10.600 be a fact to you.

03:51:11.200 It's a belief, not an

03:51:12.420 opinion.

03:51:12.880 He's saying that it's

03:51:13.820 a fact that when you

03:51:14.940 have more wrinkles,

03:51:16.200 you don't...

03:51:16.420 Does anyone else

03:51:17.080 understand the argument

03:51:18.040 that I'm giving right

03:51:19.060 now?

03:51:19.080 Yes, the fact I'll

03:51:20.560 speak in your argument.

03:51:21.100 Am I coming off like

03:51:22.080 a dumb bitch?

03:51:23.220 Am I coming off like

03:51:24.100 a dumb bitch?

03:51:24.740 Because I swear to God.

03:51:25.780 He's trying to argue

03:51:26.260 with you that it's the

03:51:27.940 same thing because to

03:51:29.140 him it's a fact that

03:51:30.640 when you have more

03:51:31.440 wrinkles, you're less

03:51:32.180 attractive.

03:51:32.680 When her thing, she's

03:51:34.880 saying it's a fact to

03:51:36.560 her that having more

03:51:38.400 wrinkles to you, or

03:51:39.640 not...

03:51:40.120 And both are in fact

03:51:41.920 being more mature.

03:51:42.660 Both are actually not

03:51:43.660 facts, they're opinions.

03:51:44.800 Yeah, I know, but we

03:51:45.800 can argue that all day

03:51:47.320 whether it's a fact.

03:51:47.940 Where Santa Claus

03:51:48.080 exists.

03:51:48.420 I want to ask you a

03:51:49.320 question because I have

03:51:50.060 genuine curiosity.

03:51:52.620 So when you ask those

03:51:53.460 questions and when you

03:51:54.320 argue your point, you

03:51:56.020 have a certain outlook

03:51:58.280 on women that have

03:52:02.320 certain opinions, right?

03:52:04.360 Because to you, what

03:52:07.140 does this question mean?

03:52:09.700 What are you trying to

03:52:11.160 change perception of

03:52:13.220 those women that you

03:52:14.120 have an opinion of?

03:52:15.460 I'm trying to phrase it.

03:52:16.640 So for me, I don't really

03:52:20.120 ask the ratings question

03:52:21.300 much.

03:52:21.640 I just engage in it,

03:52:22.760 right?

03:52:23.060 So ultimately, if you're

03:52:24.120 asking my perspective, I

03:52:25.520 don't give a shit what any

03:52:26.340 of you think.

03:52:26.840 But because this is a show

03:52:29.800 where we are supposed to

03:52:30.980 engage with another

03:52:32.660 person's opinion and what

03:52:33.780 they think, I still would

03:52:34.780 actually like to understand

03:52:36.000 the reasoning as to how

03:52:37.500 somebody can come to such

03:52:39.000 absurd conclusions about

03:52:40.320 things that I clearly know

03:52:42.180 that they don't believe.

03:52:43.180 I have mommy issues.

03:52:44.660 Hang on.

03:52:45.380 Within a series of quick

03:52:46.520 questions, we can make a

03:52:47.640 determination they clearly

03:52:48.740 don't believe it.

03:52:49.780 The same way you can if

03:52:50.800 somebody says, oh, I hold

03:52:51.700 the opinion Santa Claus

03:52:53.180 kisses mommy every year at

03:52:54.820 Christmas, you could say,

03:52:56.180 okay, but I can demonstrate

03:52:57.160 that you're holding a false

03:52:58.460 belief even if it's your

03:52:59.720 opinion that it's true.

03:53:01.100 Even if it's an opinion,

03:53:02.280 hang on, even if the

03:53:03.100 opinion is factual to you,

03:53:04.560 it doesn't mean that it's

03:53:05.660 true.

03:53:06.540 So saying something like,

03:53:07.780 oh, I would rate myself at

03:53:09.700 40 to be more good looking

03:53:11.800 based on my genes, then not.

03:53:14.920 That's my opinion.

03:53:16.020 And so therefore you can't

03:53:17.140 refute it.

03:53:17.760 But you can actually refute

03:53:18.940 these things if you give

03:53:19.920 some other commonality that

03:53:21.280 a person agrees to, they

03:53:22.960 start to question their

03:53:23.880 opinion.

03:53:24.420 That's the whole point of

03:53:25.260 it.

03:53:25.480 I get it.

03:53:25.940 So my question is, you

03:53:27.380 have a problem with someone

03:53:28.960 who's trying to argue that

03:53:30.420 to them at 40, they'll feel

03:53:32.620 like they will look better.

03:53:34.140 So you have a problem with

03:53:35.180 someone that kind of doesn't

03:53:36.980 go with the reality that we

03:53:38.560 perceive.

03:53:38.680 Only if it's inconsistent.

03:53:40.000 Perhaps it could be possible,

03:53:42.160 it could be possible, for

03:53:43.200 instance, that somebody could

03:53:44.480 give a really good reasoned

03:53:47.260 answer.

03:53:48.060 That is, it's reasoned out

03:53:49.560 well and it's argued well as

03:53:51.880 to why they think that 45

03:53:53.840 year old women are generally

03:53:55.340 more attractive than 25 year

03:53:56.860 old women, for instance.

03:53:58.000 I would be willing to listen

03:53:59.320 and engage in the argument and

03:54:01.240 have my mind changed about it.

03:54:03.380 But that's not what happens.

03:54:04.780 What happens instead is

03:54:06.020 obfuscation, bullshit, lies,

03:54:08.260 and everything in the world to

03:54:09.820 try to avoid answering the

03:54:11.760 thing which is obvious to

03:54:13.120 everybody.

03:54:14.020 So here's what I think.

03:54:15.220 I'll tell you, I'm going to

03:54:16.100 tell you my opinion.

03:54:18.160 My opinion.

03:54:18.920 Is it an opinion or a belief?

03:54:20.280 It's just my opinion.

03:54:21.680 Okay, an opinion.

03:54:22.540 It's just my opinion, so you

03:54:23.100 have to hold it as being

03:54:23.980 valid, right?

03:54:24.900 Because it's just my opinion.

03:54:26.400 All of the women in the room

03:54:27.600 who said they were tens are

03:54:28.680 lying.

03:54:29.220 That's my opinion.

03:54:30.360 There was only one.

03:54:31.100 So one more question.

03:54:34.040 So without us talking in like

03:54:37.480 huge generalities, if someone

03:54:39.120 was like extremely, I don't

03:54:41.300 know, overweight or something

03:54:42.980 in all through their 20s or

03:54:44.960 30s that you would perceive as

03:54:46.460 non-attractive and then they

03:54:47.740 lose all the weight and then

03:54:49.300 they get in shape and then they

03:54:51.020 look great and, you know, to

03:54:53.220 you, obviously, they're going to

03:54:55.140 be more attractive.

03:54:56.020 So in that case, you would agree,

03:54:58.020 right?

03:54:58.300 So I would always make, I

03:55:00.720 never put anything in a

03:55:01.780 monolith.

03:55:02.300 I would never say all

03:55:03.140 anything.

03:55:04.100 So I would never, for instance,

03:55:05.340 say that just because on

03:55:06.920 average there are women who

03:55:09.420 are almost no women in their

03:55:10.860 40s are going to be more

03:55:11.800 attractive than their 20-year-old

03:55:13.120 self.

03:55:13.940 That doesn't mean that I

03:55:14.740 wouldn't say that there

03:55:15.380 wouldn't be some who could be

03:55:16.660 because obviously there could.

03:55:19.180 But that's based on your own

03:55:20.720 attraction values, though.

03:55:22.780 It's not based on my

03:55:24.280 attraction values.

03:55:24.600 So here's the thing.

03:55:24.780 I hold a different belief.

03:55:26.040 I think that there are

03:55:27.340 universal metrics for

03:55:29.520 attraction.

03:55:30.620 And the reason that I

03:55:31.300 believe that this must be

03:55:32.400 true is because cross

03:55:34.080 culturally, almost in every

03:55:36.360 culture, when we look at

03:55:37.320 historical beauty standards

03:55:38.600 even, there's remarkable

03:55:40.140 similarities when it comes to

03:55:41.700 the picturesque of a woman

03:55:42.920 that men go for and for the

03:55:44.920 types of men that women go

03:55:46.440 for.

03:55:46.860 Most of the statues that we

03:55:48.260 see that are showing

03:55:49.840 enlightened men, for instance,

03:55:51.540 they're somewhat muscular,

03:55:53.080 they're tall, this kind of

03:55:54.560 thing.

03:55:54.860 It seems that the attractiveness,

03:55:57.460 the universal metrics for this

03:55:58.840 don't really change that much.

03:56:01.140 I do think that culturally

03:56:02.280 there's going to be some

03:56:03.260 relativism when it comes to

03:56:04.560 some things.

03:56:05.180 For instance, perhaps there's a

03:56:06.600 culture where women wear

03:56:07.580 rings around their neck and it

03:56:08.760 stretches their neck.

03:56:10.120 And so if you see women who

03:56:11.500 don't have that, you might, it

03:56:13.420 might seem odd to you.

03:56:14.460 It might not seem like that's an

03:56:15.740 attractive feature.

03:56:16.900 Whereas you, I think you would

03:56:18.140 still find a hip ratio to

03:56:20.200 breast ratio to still be

03:56:21.420 attractive and this kind of

03:56:22.420 thing.

03:56:22.580 I do think that there are

03:56:23.360 some universalities because

03:56:25.020 otherwise, how would you know

03:56:25.940 what is or is not a healthy

03:56:27.220 female to breed with?

03:56:28.260 How would you know that?

03:56:29.520 So to you, it's, well,

03:56:31.040 basically, what if in like 10

03:56:32.400 years there's something that

03:56:33.680 reverses the way you look?

03:56:35.340 So is this question going to be

03:56:36.580 relevant to you?

03:56:38.260 So is there more to, more to it

03:56:41.100 or is it just based on, because

03:56:43.880 I think she...

03:56:45.080 Yeah, so if there was a magic,

03:56:46.440 let's say there was a magic

03:56:47.380 pill or not a magic, a

03:56:48.760 scientific pill which reversed the

03:56:50.860 aging process, well, then what

03:56:53.540 would happen then is we would

03:56:54.640 still be correct because what

03:56:56.320 women would be doing is

03:56:57.740 reversing their 40-year-old age

03:56:59.400 to their 20-year-old age because

03:57:00.700 that's more attractive.

03:57:02.120 But do you think then...

03:57:03.220 That's the whole point, right?

03:57:04.220 No, no, no.

03:57:04.580 I know.

03:57:04.900 I'm saying, do you think, for

03:57:06.300 example, if there's a woman in

03:57:08.460 her 50s and there's a woman in

03:57:10.420 her 20s and you can't really tell

03:57:12.440 physically how they look, would

03:57:13.800 you choose someone in their 20s

03:57:15.360 that's less experienced or someone

03:57:17.520 in their 50s?

03:57:18.220 But the face, the wrinkles,

03:57:20.300 physically, they kind of look

03:57:21.620 similar.

03:57:21.900 To date or who's more attractive?

03:57:24.020 Attractive.

03:57:24.580 So does personality, maybe someone

03:57:26.760 with more experience or wisdom,

03:57:28.100 does that play a part or is it

03:57:30.040 only based on...

03:57:31.260 You can't tell the difference.

03:57:32.360 Yeah, so you can ask the same

03:57:35.300 question a different way and you

03:57:36.680 would end up with the same exact

03:57:37.760 answer.

03:57:38.540 You could say, okay, if you had

03:57:40.280 two 20-year-old women and you

03:57:42.140 couldn't tell that...

03:57:44.220 Or you had a 25-year-old woman

03:57:46.180 and you had a 20-year-old woman or

03:57:47.420 a 21-year-old woman and a 27-year-old

03:57:49.200 woman and they looked like they

03:57:50.200 were the same age, would you

03:57:51.620 choose based on personality

03:57:52.740 traits if they were almost

03:57:54.080 equally attractive?

03:57:55.280 Yeah, sure, of course, that

03:57:56.140 would come into it.

03:57:57.220 But that really doesn't have

03:57:58.140 anything to do with whether or

03:57:59.740 not the attractiveness traits

03:58:02.740 themselves were there.

03:58:04.060 I think I was...

03:58:04.900 Okay.

03:58:05.200 I was making a question because

03:58:06.320 I've heard some arguments in the

03:58:07.580 past that some guys go for

03:58:09.000 younger women because they feel

03:58:10.560 like they are more moldable.

03:58:12.680 I don't know.

03:58:13.020 Yeah, but hang on.

03:58:14.720 That's a different question.

03:58:16.100 And I'm happy to engage with

03:58:17.040 that one, too.

03:58:17.960 I do think, for instance, if we

03:58:19.880 were to take your comparison,

03:58:21.440 there's a 45-year-old woman who

03:58:22.780 took an anti-aging pill.

03:58:24.040 Now she looks exactly like her

03:58:25.440 20-year-old self.

03:58:26.460 And then you have a 20-year-old

03:58:27.720 woman who's next to her, right?

03:58:29.560 At that point, would the beauty

03:58:31.580 standard be the only thing the

03:58:32.780 man is going for?

03:58:33.620 I still think a man would often

03:58:35.200 go for the 20-year-old, the one

03:58:36.840 who's innately 20, right?

03:58:38.700 Why?

03:58:38.940 Because she would have less

03:58:40.020 baggage.

03:58:40.540 But what if the other woman is

03:58:43.380 more intellectually engaging?

03:58:45.100 He enjoys more time with

03:58:46.520 spending time with her?

03:58:47.420 I think that men care far less

03:58:49.580 about female intellect than you

03:58:51.420 think.

03:58:51.660 Not in my experience.

03:58:52.140 That's one.

03:58:53.240 And then two, I think that they

03:58:54.840 care the most about baggage.

03:58:56.560 I think they care about baggage

03:58:57.640 more than anything.

03:58:58.240 Not in my experience, but I

03:58:59.820 respect your opinion.

03:59:01.740 He's an older gentleman, so I

03:59:02.760 mean, he's kind of been around.

03:59:03.660 Well, I'm with an older gentleman

03:59:05.120 with a 50-year-old.

03:59:06.320 Okay.

03:59:06.880 That's valid.

03:59:07.360 Yeah, well, I'm guessing that he

03:59:10.280 really values you for your

03:59:11.640 intellect, huh?

03:59:13.580 That's what he values in you is

03:59:15.220 your intelligence.

03:59:16.420 Is it because he can have long,

03:59:19.160 all-night conversations with you?

03:59:21.880 Yes.

03:59:22.100 Or does he perhaps value you more

03:59:24.500 because he thinks you're young

03:59:25.720 and high?

03:59:26.060 No.

03:59:26.820 No.

03:59:27.260 No, of course not.

03:59:28.540 Nah.

03:59:29.340 Nah.

03:59:29.720 That doesn't even come into play.

03:59:31.820 This is very...

03:59:33.160 It's because you're very mature

03:59:34.520 for your age.

03:59:36.440 How old do you think I am?

03:59:38.420 How old do you think I am?

03:59:40.320 I'm older than you think,

03:59:41.740 actually.

03:59:42.580 So, someone who has...

03:59:43.760 Well, how old are you?

03:59:44.800 How old do you think I am?

03:59:46.240 I don't know.

03:59:46.960 I would say late 20s,

03:59:48.200 early 30s.

03:59:49.800 I'm 34.

03:59:51.260 Yeah.

03:59:51.640 Okay.

03:59:52.120 So, early 30s.

03:59:53.240 Yeah.

03:59:54.060 Yeah.

03:59:54.600 So, I mean, right about there.

03:59:56.140 So, the thing is, is again,

03:59:57.480 I think that just...

03:59:59.460 Now, this is just a guess.

04:00:01.140 Just my shot in the dark.

04:00:03.120 But I think that he probably values

04:00:05.980 your physical attractiveness

04:00:07.280 even more than he does your intellect.

04:00:10.760 And I know how that sounds.

04:00:12.300 It must sound awful.

04:00:13.480 No, no, no.

04:00:14.040 It doesn't sound awful.

04:00:15.280 Like, completely...

04:00:15.700 But the thing is, is I think it's actually realistic

04:00:18.600 for me to point these things out

04:00:20.460 because they are true.

04:00:21.960 No, no, no.

04:00:22.300 I totally agree.

04:00:23.400 And that's why he really looks after himself

04:00:25.540 because he realizes he doesn't want to look bad for me.

04:00:28.780 So, I don't disregard your opinion.

04:00:31.420 If I look different, he might not like me.

04:00:34.420 But I think it's not just the look that a guy...

04:00:36.720 A guy is not going to hold a woman

04:00:38.200 if she's not going to be there for him intellectually

04:00:41.760 and physically.

04:00:43.140 I don't think there is one thing...

04:00:44.200 Hang on.

04:00:45.800 Let me give a little pushback here.

04:00:48.440 Not so sure that what you would consider

04:00:51.520 the value of intellectuals,

04:00:54.100 the same that I would value.

04:00:55.220 So, for instance, let me ask you then,

04:00:57.300 specifically, when you say he values your intellect,

04:01:00.540 what about you is so intellectual

04:01:02.120 that it should be valued?

04:01:03.800 No, I'm saying he values both.

04:01:06.040 He values the fact that we can...

04:01:07.140 Yeah, I know, I know.

04:01:07.860 But answer to my question,

04:01:09.040 what about you is so intellectual

04:01:10.740 that it should be valued?

04:01:12.600 Well, first of all, I'm not saying

04:01:14.140 I'm like this crazy intellectual person,

04:01:16.560 but I'm someone that he can engage

04:01:18.940 on any level of conversation with.

04:01:21.340 Any level?

04:01:22.000 For him, at any level, yes.

04:01:25.420 So, can he sit down and talk to you

04:01:27.280 about how the carburetor is broken

04:01:29.160 and ask for your advice on how he should fix it?

04:01:31.380 No, no, no.

04:01:31.820 I'm saying to him.

04:01:33.080 He's not the type of person

04:01:34.680 that's not what interests him.

04:01:36.640 I'm saying, based on our common interests,

04:01:39.500 I'm the person that can engage with him

04:01:42.020 on those conversations.

04:01:42.820 Well, let's see if that's true.

04:01:44.140 What are the things that interest him

04:01:45.820 that he intellectually values in you?

04:01:49.780 I'm kind of curious now.

04:01:50.880 Well, we talk a lot about science.

04:01:53.400 We talk a lot about metaphysical stuff.

04:01:56.680 We talk a lot about psychology.

04:01:58.300 We talk a lot about different places in the world

04:02:02.320 and perception of different countries

04:02:04.080 and how life is...

04:02:05.200 We talk about metaphysics?

04:02:07.240 Yeah, we talk a lot about spirituality

04:02:09.240 and metaphysical things.

04:02:10.480 We talk a lot about quantum things.

04:02:11.920 Well, when you classify something

04:02:14.580 as being metaphysical, what does that mean?

04:02:16.700 Well, based on, like, for example,

04:02:21.080 we talk a lot about whether...

04:02:23.660 And it's not just with him,

04:02:25.860 but, like, for example, I'm very interested...

04:02:27.540 Yeah, yeah.

04:02:27.920 But what do you think metaphysical is?

04:02:31.040 Something to do with your consciousness

04:02:32.640 and how it reflects into a physical world.

04:02:36.320 That's what metaphysics is?

04:02:40.060 Yeah.

04:02:40.800 You can...

04:02:41.400 I mean, there's so many wide array of conversations.

04:02:45.480 You can go about it.

04:02:46.860 How...

04:02:47.540 Whether someone has, you know,

04:02:49.120 the whole debate about consciousness,

04:02:51.400 whether it's, you know,

04:02:52.980 your mind is connected to your soul,

04:02:55.300 or if there is a soul,

04:02:56.680 or, you know,

04:02:57.520 something that's kind of beyond

04:02:58.980 just everyday reality.

04:03:01.640 There's a lot of things to talk about,

04:03:04.340 and it just doesn't have to be...

04:03:06.920 But you know what I mean?

04:03:08.280 Like, there's engaging conversation.

04:03:10.440 No.

04:03:10.620 No, I mean, I'm trying to...

04:03:12.240 I'm trying to figure this out, right?

04:03:13.880 So, from my perspective,

04:03:15.820 I'm trying to figure out

04:03:16.660 these interesting intellectual conversations

04:03:19.200 which can be had with you about metaphysics,

04:03:22.720 and that that is the thing...

04:03:25.020 Those are the things

04:03:26.040 which is keeping this guy interested,

04:03:28.160 not the fact that you're much younger,

04:03:29.900 and he likely really enjoys

04:03:32.020 having physical intimacy with you.

04:03:32.920 Well, the thing is that...

04:03:34.160 That's just a guess.

04:03:35.560 No, no, no.

04:03:36.120 I will directly rebuke your argument.

04:03:39.620 Okay.

04:03:39.820 It's because he can have any other...

04:03:42.120 There's plenty of attractive women

04:03:44.260 that are younger than me out there,

04:03:46.400 and he can have them.

04:03:48.120 Can you know?

04:03:48.300 He's a very attractive man,

04:03:49.900 and he can have them.

04:03:52.140 Why would he choose me?

04:03:53.180 So, I'm saying there has to be something more

04:03:55.520 than just plain physical attractiveness

04:03:58.180 to keep a relationship.

04:03:59.960 How long have you guys been dating?

04:04:01.860 Oh, I mean, I don't know.

04:04:02.980 I'd say I don't know because...

04:04:04.060 Seven years?

04:04:04.880 Wow.

04:04:05.240 Just to read,

04:04:05.840 just to kind of get back into this,

04:04:07.400 and we'll tie this up

04:04:08.140 so that other people can get back in,

04:04:09.700 but I'm not really sure

04:04:11.080 because you think that metaphysics

04:04:12.400 is about consciousness,

04:04:13.640 and that's really weird to me,

04:04:14.900 but even if we just kind of assumed

04:04:17.480 that that's what it was,

04:04:18.820 I don't really understand

04:04:21.540 why that would be the value add, right?

04:04:25.140 Why would that be such a value add?

04:04:26.900 I'm not saying just that specifically.

04:04:29.360 I'm not saying I'm this intellectual person.

04:04:31.380 I'm saying stuff that he's interested in,

04:04:34.200 I have the similar interest,

04:04:36.340 and we can engage in conversations

04:04:38.700 that we both get reward from.

04:04:41.540 So, if you don't have that in a relationship,

04:04:43.600 it's never going to work.

04:04:44.880 I don't believe that.

04:04:46.040 Well, then let me ask you this last question.

04:04:48.740 Let us assume for a moment when you met him

04:04:50.740 that half of your face was burned off

04:04:52.460 and your tongue was hanging out of your mouth,

04:04:53.960 but you still have the stellar personality

04:04:55.720 you have today.

04:04:56.600 No, of course not.

04:04:57.580 You think he would have dated you?

04:04:58.680 No, I'm saying you have to have...

04:05:00.760 No, I don't think he would have either.

04:05:01.280 No, that's why I'm saying

04:05:02.560 you have to have both.

04:05:03.800 You can't have one without you.

04:05:04.740 Well, I don't know.

04:05:05.600 What I'm saying is that

04:05:06.440 I think one is a higher priority than another.

04:05:08.800 That's what I'm saying.

04:05:09.500 No, because you know what?

04:05:11.100 I'm not going to look the same

04:05:12.460 in 10 years or 20 years

04:05:14.280 and everybody ages,

04:05:16.040 but why would you...

04:05:16.480 And he might not be there

04:05:17.260 in 10 years or 20 years.

04:05:19.000 Yeah, but everybody ages.

04:05:20.500 I mean, you're not going to stay

04:05:22.540 with one person

04:05:23.320 just based on their appearance

04:05:24.700 when they're 35 or 25.

04:05:27.340 You have to...

04:05:27.920 Yeah, but I mean, I think that...

04:05:29.500 I mean, are you with your wife?

04:05:30.540 I think that there's a hierarchy

04:05:32.340 of motivational factors.

04:05:34.220 So if I had to look at the hierarchy

04:05:35.620 of motivational factors,

04:05:37.220 I think that a man who is at his age

04:05:40.560 is going to value a woman at your age

04:05:43.360 much more the physical intimacy

04:05:45.800 than he is the long walks on the beach.

04:05:48.120 Now, that's just my opinion,

04:05:52.460 but...

04:05:53.420 Are you married?

04:05:54.700 I bet you if he was next to you right now,

04:05:56.940 he'd be like, high five.

04:05:58.280 High five, right?

04:05:59.300 He'd go, yeah, you're right.

04:06:00.320 You're totally right, girl.

04:06:01.120 No, no, no.

04:06:01.340 I'm saying it's not...

04:06:02.640 I've not...

04:06:03.440 It's not only him I've been with.

04:06:05.520 So it's not just based

04:06:06.760 on one relationship I've had.

04:06:09.280 Are you married?

04:06:10.100 What's your relationship said?

04:06:12.160 Yeah, I'm married.

04:06:13.420 Okay, so with your wife,

04:06:15.080 do you just value her for her looks?

04:06:17.840 Well, she's a mother.

04:06:18.780 She's the mother of my children.

04:06:20.040 Okay, so you value her

04:06:21.820 more than just her looks, obviously.

04:06:23.800 Yeah, of course, yeah.

04:06:25.160 She's the mother of my children.

04:06:27.520 Her entire job and duty

04:06:29.300 is to raise my genetic offspring

04:06:31.720 into maturity.

04:06:33.100 That's a super valuable job, right?

04:06:35.020 Yeah.

04:06:35.340 Do you have this man's children?

04:06:37.940 I want to have a child one day.

04:06:40.360 Yeah, I know,

04:06:40.780 but she don't have it right now, right?

04:06:42.300 But I'm saying,

04:06:43.220 if you chose your wife

04:06:44.420 just based on appearance,

04:06:45.780 you would trust her

04:06:46.840 to raise your children,

04:06:47.960 so obviously there's going to be more

04:06:49.420 to why you're choosing that person.

04:06:50.940 Sure, there's contributing factors.

04:06:52.300 I'm just saying

04:06:52.700 there's a hierarchy which exists.

04:06:54.200 I told you that as well.

04:06:55.620 You keep on kind of presenting this.

04:06:56.840 There has to be two things.

04:06:58.720 You have to be...

04:06:59.060 Hang on, hang on.

04:06:59.700 Hang on, chill for a second.

04:07:01.100 You keep on presenting this

04:07:02.260 in a kind of false straw man way

04:07:04.920 where you're saying

04:07:05.560 that I'm saying

04:07:06.360 it's either one or the other.

04:07:07.740 I'm also agreeing with you

04:07:09.060 that there's both in play.

04:07:10.760 There has to be some personality

04:07:11.760 personality to go with the beauty

04:07:13.640 ultimately for something long-term.

04:07:15.780 I'm not disputing that.

04:07:17.160 What I'm disputing

04:07:18.020 is whether or not

04:07:18.660 they're equal to each other.

04:07:20.400 What I'm disputing

04:07:21.320 is whether or not

04:07:22.100 there isn't a hierarchy here

04:07:23.760 of what it is

04:07:25.100 that is valued

04:07:25.860 before the other thing.

04:07:27.560 And so what I'm saying

04:07:28.260 is that if...

04:07:29.000 So here's...

04:07:29.480 Let me put it to you

04:07:29.980 a different way.

04:07:30.920 I think that your man,

04:07:32.840 if he had two buttons

04:07:34.480 he could push

04:07:35.200 and he had to push one,

04:07:36.720 button one,

04:07:37.820 it eliminated

04:07:38.540 this great intellect

04:07:39.860 or number two,

04:07:41.320 it made you

04:07:41.880 a massive burn victim

04:07:43.300 who was ugly as sin.

04:07:44.820 Which button

04:07:45.480 do you think he would push?

04:07:47.040 That's such an irrelevant question

04:07:48.540 because I'm going to...

04:07:49.500 Answer the question.

04:07:50.180 Don't obfuscate.

04:07:51.420 Answer.

04:07:52.140 Yeah, I agree with you.

04:07:53.540 Obviously.

04:07:53.840 Which button?

04:07:54.760 Which button?

04:07:55.180 The first one.

04:07:57.520 Yeah, he's not going to want me

04:07:58.900 to be a burn victim

04:07:59.920 but same question to you.

04:08:02.460 No, no, no.

04:08:02.920 Which thing does he value more?

04:08:04.060 Okay, well let me ask you

04:08:05.020 just same question to you.

04:08:07.220 If you were with someone

04:08:08.380 who is very...

04:08:09.160 Your wife, right?

04:08:10.400 Very attractive

04:08:11.360 but she was not...

04:08:15.160 The personality

04:08:16.280 you wouldn't want her

04:08:17.420 to raise her children.

04:08:18.900 How is that not equal?

04:08:21.020 You would want someone

04:08:22.180 that's more attractive

04:08:23.120 Because what I'm saying

04:08:23.640 is that there's a hierarchical value

04:08:26.320 which exists

04:08:26.940 and you just demonstrated it.

04:08:28.580 You agree with me.

04:08:29.940 Hang on, you agree with me.

04:08:31.480 Because I don't have

04:08:32.480 his children right now.

04:08:34.440 Why don't you let me

04:08:35.460 answer the question

04:08:36.100 you just asked?

04:08:36.800 Sorry about that.

04:08:37.800 So if you say

04:08:39.700 if I ask you

04:08:40.460 there's two buttons

04:08:41.200 you must push one

04:08:42.500 or he must push one

04:08:44.140 which one would he push?

04:08:45.200 The elimination

04:08:45.580 of your beauty

04:08:46.440 or the elimination

04:08:47.340 of the long walks

04:08:48.360 on the beach

04:08:48.880 and the talks

04:08:49.520 about metaphysics

04:08:50.400 and the higher intellect?

04:08:51.640 You think he would

04:08:52.400 push the button

04:08:53.140 which would eliminate

04:08:54.280 that rather than

04:08:55.160 the physical beauty?

04:08:55.840 That's showing you here

04:08:57.140 that in...

04:08:58.580 Hang on,

04:08:58.980 in a bifurcated

04:08:59.920 in literally two options

04:09:01.640 you think that

04:09:02.720 the one that he would push

04:09:03.860 must have some

04:09:04.720 higher value to him

04:09:06.060 than the other?

04:09:06.680 Yeah, he would

04:09:07.160 definitely push

04:09:07.860 the one where

04:09:08.840 my beauty

04:09:09.520 for sure.

04:09:11.180 And most other men

04:09:12.440 that I've been with

04:09:13.360 as well.

04:09:14.520 I ask him that...

04:09:15.120 So that's my only point.

04:09:16.180 So you're agreeing with me

04:09:16.920 that there's a hierarchy

04:09:17.940 of needs

04:09:18.540 when it comes to this.

04:09:19.660 And I think

04:09:20.140 it's more important

04:09:21.000 if you're with someone

04:09:22.020 and you want them

04:09:22.640 to raise your children

04:09:23.400 and have children

04:09:23.960 with them

04:09:24.560 it's more important

04:09:25.660 than the looks

04:09:26.240 because the looks

04:09:26.860 are going to fade

04:09:27.540 very quickly.

04:09:27.840 Yeah, I could agree

04:09:28.980 that if you ask me

04:09:29.820 the same question

04:09:30.600 right now

04:09:31.240 which would be

04:09:31.740 more valuable to you

04:09:32.660 your wife's physical beauty

04:09:33.940 or her ability

04:09:34.620 to raise your children

04:09:35.580 if I had the same case

04:09:36.660 for the buttons

04:09:37.160 I would push the one

04:09:38.180 which eliminated

04:09:38.800 her physical beauty

04:09:39.660 and kept her intellect intact

04:09:41.640 to continue the raising

04:09:43.000 of my genetic offspring.

04:09:44.700 But your answer

04:09:45.420 was different

04:09:46.220 because you don't

04:09:47.340 have his children

04:09:48.000 you think he values

04:09:49.040 the hierarchy

04:09:50.140 of your beauty first

04:09:51.420 then your intellect

04:09:52.140 and I agree.

04:09:53.880 No, no, I know

04:09:54.420 I was talking about

04:09:55.860 when you first meet someone

04:09:57.120 when we first met

04:09:58.080 yes

04:09:58.520 and for me as well.

04:10:00.040 That feels like

04:10:00.780 it's changing the goal post

04:10:01.900 No, no, no, I'm sorry

04:10:02.980 if I'm

04:10:04.420 I'm not changing

04:10:05.640 my opinion at all

04:10:06.400 when you first meet

04:10:07.260 when you first date

04:10:08.140 yes

04:10:08.560 but when you decide

04:10:09.740 to be with someone

04:10:10.580 and you decide

04:10:11.400 to go further

04:10:12.120 in life with them

04:10:12.940 then you choose someone

04:10:14.780 not based on the looks.

04:10:15.840 Right, but if the looks

04:10:16.780 don't come first

04:10:17.740 then there will be no

04:10:18.880 you won't even have

04:10:20.060 the option.

04:10:21.500 I agree with that

04:10:22.240 but you can choose

04:10:23.480 not to be the same with them.

04:10:24.040 And actually

04:10:24.720 she demonstrated that

04:10:25.880 with the earlier question

04:10:26.940 I asked

04:10:27.440 if she was a burn victim

04:10:28.660 but had her same personality

04:10:30.160 would this guy

04:10:31.420 be dating her right now?

04:10:32.540 Answer, no.

04:10:33.580 If right now

04:10:34.180 he could select

04:10:34.820 between these two things

04:10:35.820 which would he pick

04:10:36.700 the beauty would be

04:10:37.800 higher on the hierarchy

04:10:38.700 there as well.

04:10:39.720 So one final thing

04:10:41.200 from the both of you

04:10:41.900 on this

04:10:42.220 because I do want

04:10:42.840 to get other people in

04:10:43.840 so.

04:10:44.600 I'm just saying

04:10:46.080 that once again

04:10:47.000 I was arguing

04:10:48.040 that it's exactly

04:10:49.000 the same importance.

04:10:51.540 Yeah, you meet someone

04:10:52.380 and you like how they look

04:10:53.540 and you like how they speak

04:10:55.120 to you

04:10:55.520 for me at least.

04:10:56.320 why not he just

04:10:59.200 hook up with her

04:10:59.920 if it's just about

04:11:01.460 the physical appearance

04:11:02.300 he chose to be

04:11:03.340 in a committed

04:11:03.860 long-term relationship

04:11:05.020 with her

04:11:05.420 rather than

04:11:06.460 you can hook up

04:11:07.740 with somebody

04:11:08.240 and they might be

04:11:09.780 dumber than a box of rocks

04:11:11.080 and you can still

04:11:13.100 hook up with them

04:11:13.700 based on the physical experience.

04:11:14.540 Wait, wait, wait.

04:11:15.180 Actually, I want to

04:11:16.040 challenge this idea

04:11:17.340 that because you

04:11:18.460 mentioned intellect

04:11:19.260 and then you mentioned

04:11:20.400 dumber than a box of rocks.

04:11:22.600 Well, let's bring in

04:11:23.920 because we're talking

04:11:24.640 about intellect now

04:11:25.520 let's bring in

04:11:26.960 personality disposition

04:11:28.600 so perhaps they're

04:11:30.500 not particularly intelligent

04:11:31.720 they're dumber

04:11:32.320 than a box of rocks

04:11:33.260 but they're a good person

04:11:34.800 they have good morals

04:11:35.980 they have good values

04:11:36.960 and they have a pleasant

04:11:38.260 disposition

04:11:39.140 and personality

04:11:40.420 versus you can be

04:11:41.700 highly intelligent

04:11:42.520 and be an absolute

04:11:44.560 pain in the ass

04:11:45.320 to be around

04:11:45.840 you can have a negative

04:11:46.900 world outlook

04:11:47.700 you could be

04:11:48.460 you know

04:11:49.640 name any sort of

04:11:51.260 negative personality trait

04:11:52.380 you can be intelligent

04:11:53.520 and still have

04:11:54.460 those negative

04:11:54.860 personality traits

04:11:55.740 this whole trope

04:11:56.720 of like

04:11:57.060 well my intelligence

04:11:58.080 honestly

04:11:59.060 I kind of would

04:12:00.680 rather just chill

04:12:01.640 with

04:12:01.900 we don't even

04:12:03.020 have to talk

04:12:03.900 and I can still

04:12:04.680 like you

04:12:05.220 I'd rather just

04:12:06.780 watch House of the Dragon

04:12:08.680 Game of Thrones

04:12:10.380 I wasn't

04:12:10.900 when I was saying

04:12:11.560 that

04:12:11.780 you don't gotta talk

04:12:12.620 I'm not saying

04:12:13.200 about intelligence

04:12:14.060 I'm saying

04:12:14.560 more about personality

04:12:15.860 that you click

04:12:16.740 with somebody else

04:12:17.620 yeah but the

04:12:18.440 capability to have

04:12:19.740 a conversation

04:12:20.380 I mean it was

04:12:21.120 somewhat related

04:12:22.060 yeah but someone

04:12:23.160 is one dumber

04:12:24.040 than a box of rocks

04:12:25.420 when you have

04:12:25.860 a life issue

04:12:26.620 that everybody has

04:12:27.800 would you rather

04:12:28.720 go through life

04:12:29.600 and through life's

04:12:30.840 issues with someone

04:12:31.640 who's dumber

04:12:32.100 than a box of rocks

04:12:32.660 but this is really

04:12:33.580 weird because

04:12:34.420 we keep on agreeing

04:12:35.820 with this point

04:12:36.640 over and over

04:12:37.360 at least I was

04:12:38.180 I mean I keep

04:12:38.780 agreeing with your

04:12:39.380 point

04:12:39.660 yes both are

04:12:40.260 important

04:12:40.580 yes both are

04:12:41.240 important

04:12:41.540 yes both are

04:12:42.160 important

04:12:42.480 one more time

04:12:43.340 yes both are

04:12:44.360 important

04:12:44.820 but does that

04:12:46.320 does that mean

04:12:47.160 equal though

04:12:48.520 what's my

04:12:49.120 my argument

04:12:50.020 is they're

04:12:50.680 not equal

04:12:51.620 not that they're

04:12:52.500 not important

04:12:53.120 but not

04:12:53.820 that's your

04:12:54.540 argument

04:12:54.940 and my argument

04:12:55.500 is that equal

04:12:56.380 and that's it

04:12:57.240 if your argument

04:12:58.260 truly was that

04:12:59.180 they were equal

04:12:59.780 then when the

04:13:00.260 button scenario

04:13:00.880 came up

04:13:01.520 whichever one

04:13:02.500 he pushed

04:13:03.080 should have no

04:13:04.000 value merit

04:13:05.000 to him whatsoever

04:13:05.840 because they're

04:13:06.320 both equal

04:13:06.920 no no no

04:13:08.160 it's at a

04:13:08.880 different point

04:13:09.560 that was the last word

04:13:09.880 that was the last word

04:13:10.820 to wrap up

04:13:12.600 the thing on the

04:13:13.420 10 to

04:13:14.160 I think we left

04:13:15.600 off

04:13:16.060 not with me

04:13:17.300 I didn't answer

04:13:18.340 the 10 to 20

04:13:19.680 I think

04:13:20.140 oh yeah it's

04:13:20.900 definitely you

04:13:21.340 do you think

04:13:22.380 you'll be better

04:13:22.840 looking in 10 years

04:13:23.620 you're 22 now

04:13:25.920 do you think

04:13:26.340 you'll be better

04:13:26.700 looking at 32

04:13:27.400 no

04:13:29.220 okay

04:13:30.720 what about you

04:13:31.540 you're 19

04:13:32.140 do you think

04:13:32.500 you'll be better

04:13:32.860 looking at 29

04:13:34.420 than you are now

04:13:35.060 at 19

04:13:35.660 I do

04:13:36.200 because that's

04:13:36.720 when my mom

04:13:37.280 said that she

04:13:37.720 peaked

04:13:38.000 and I'm like

04:13:38.480 okay

04:13:38.880 what about

04:13:39.320 39

04:13:40.180 compared to now

04:13:41.140 probably not

04:13:41.820 no

04:13:42.060 okay what about

04:13:42.680 39 to 29

04:13:43.740 but which

04:13:45.420 probably 29

04:13:46.480 I feel like

04:13:47.180 you peak

04:13:47.520 in your mid

04:13:47.960 20s to early

04:13:48.780 30s

04:13:49.180 I feel like

04:13:49.720 that's like

04:13:50.200 peak

04:13:50.500 what about

04:13:51.280 you

04:13:51.580 better looking

04:13:52.160 in 10 years

04:13:52.780 no

04:13:53.820 but I

04:13:54.700 do you think

04:13:54.820 this is your

04:13:55.240 peak right now

04:13:55.860 at 53

04:13:56.560 well I will say

04:13:57.540 I'm better

04:13:57.980 looking than

04:13:58.680 I was 10

04:13:59.380 years ago

04:13:59.960 so I lost

04:14:02.040 130 pounds

04:14:03.480 wow

04:14:04.060 congratulations

04:14:04.680 last

04:14:05.200 6 years ago

04:14:06.440 okay

04:14:06.800 so I feel

04:14:08.440 like I'm

04:14:08.760 better looking

04:14:09.260 now

04:14:09.620 but I don't

04:14:10.160 think I will

04:14:10.660 be better

04:14:11.040 looking in

04:14:11.540 10 years

04:14:12.000 all right

04:14:12.640 and then what

04:14:13.480 about you

04:14:13.760 better looking

04:14:14.220 in 10 years

04:14:14.720 or better

04:14:15.020 looking now

04:14:15.460 at 19

04:14:15.900 now

04:14:17.300 now

04:14:17.860 okay

04:14:18.240 and then

04:14:19.340 what about

04:14:19.640 you

04:14:19.760 better looking

04:14:20.160 at 44

04:14:20.720 or better

04:14:21.040 looking at

04:14:21.400 34 now

04:14:22.080 I'll try

04:14:23.300 to look

04:14:23.780 the same

04:14:24.540 I don't

04:14:24.840 know

04:14:25.080 maybe

04:14:25.920 44 is still

04:14:29.080 young to me

04:14:29.720 I think

04:14:30.400 you'll start

04:14:30.880 declining

04:14:31.360 after that

04:14:32.140 I love

04:14:33.660 hearing about

04:14:34.340 everyone

04:14:34.780 declining

04:14:35.520 I know

04:14:35.900 I know

04:14:36.200 I'm saying

04:14:36.920 that okay

04:14:37.260 I'm way

04:14:38.140 better looking

04:14:38.780 now than I

04:14:39.320 was when

04:14:39.780 I was 24

04:14:40.440 I don't

04:14:41.440 know

04:14:41.900 it does

04:14:42.700 okay

04:14:43.380 I don't

04:14:44.160 live

04:14:44.280 I don't

04:14:46.180 live healthy

04:14:46.880 wait

04:14:47.500 so better

04:14:48.420 looking

04:14:49.020 now

04:14:51.420 can you

04:14:52.420 get off

04:14:52.920 your phone

04:14:53.300 back there

04:14:53.820 and rejoin

04:14:54.480 the table

04:14:54.860 kindly

04:14:55.320 I don't

04:14:56.180 I mean

04:14:59.560 of course

04:15:00.100 you know

04:15:01.140 as you age

04:15:01.740 but I think

04:15:02.200 in 10 years

04:15:02.680 we'll have

04:15:03.000 that pill

04:15:03.540 that reverses

04:15:04.260 I mean

04:15:05.660 there are

04:15:06.000 different ways

04:15:06.520 to you know

04:15:07.160 like Botox

04:15:08.660 and things

04:15:09.480 like that

04:15:09.880 I mean

04:15:10.060 there are

04:15:10.440 ways to

04:15:11.060 reverse

04:15:11.520 hold on

04:15:11.900 let me

04:15:13.280 add a

04:15:13.540 qualifier

04:15:14.080 all else

04:15:14.760 being equal

04:15:15.700 so if

04:15:16.440 she could

04:15:16.720 get Botox

04:15:17.460 now

04:15:17.820 and get

04:15:18.800 it then

04:15:19.380 that's the

04:15:21.160 framework

04:15:21.600 okay

04:15:21.960 well she

04:15:22.200 doesn't

04:15:22.420 okay

04:15:23.220 and honestly

04:15:24.160 a 44 year

04:15:25.320 old with

04:15:25.620 Botox

04:15:26.100 looks like

04:15:27.120 a 44 year

04:15:27.940 old with

04:15:28.260 Botox

04:15:28.920 exactly

04:15:29.380 yeah

04:15:29.700 that's why

04:15:30.020 I don't

04:15:30.380 look

04:15:30.540 she's not

04:15:32.020 44

04:15:32.440 who looks

04:15:32.980 34

04:15:33.400 Amber

04:15:34.140 what's that

04:15:34.680 one shot

04:15:35.860 that you

04:15:36.160 can get

04:15:36.580 that like

04:15:37.280 Miley Cyrus

04:15:37.860 gets

04:15:38.080 NAD

04:15:39.320 no

04:15:40.180 NAD

04:15:41.040 NAD

04:15:41.900 is like

04:15:42.340 it's like

04:15:43.380 I don't

04:15:44.100 know

04:15:44.260 I'm not

04:15:45.300 a fucking

04:15:45.680 doctor

04:15:45.840 okay

04:15:46.300 so anyways

04:15:46.880 yes

04:15:47.720 of course

04:15:48.240 I agree

04:15:48.660 with Joe

04:15:49.120 better looking

04:15:50.940 at 44

04:15:51.460 or 34

04:15:52.000 34

04:15:53.180 for now

04:15:54.180 I'm sorry

04:15:55.240 what

04:15:55.580 34

04:15:56.180 yes

04:15:57.020 I'm better

04:15:57.620 looking now

04:15:58.280 and were you

04:15:59.060 better looking

04:15:59.480 at 24

04:15:59.920 than you are

04:16:00.340 now

04:16:00.480 at 34

04:16:00.800 no

04:16:01.000 I'm way

04:16:01.520 better

04:16:01.740 looking

04:16:02.120 better

04:16:02.420 looking

04:16:02.720 now

04:16:02.920 at 34

04:16:03.300 than you

04:16:03.600 were

04:16:03.720 at 24

04:16:04.140 yeah

04:16:04.760 okay

04:16:05.080 all right

04:16:07.040 yeah

04:16:07.900 that was

04:16:08.440 an interesting

04:16:08.940 segment

04:16:10.080 y'all

04:16:10.760 crazy

04:16:11.340 okay

04:16:11.960 we have

04:16:13.040 vampire lore

04:16:13.860 Andrew

04:16:14.600 this question

04:16:15.100 is for you

04:16:15.440 would you

04:16:15.700 rather be

04:16:16.000 in the woods

04:16:16.340 with a random

04:16:16.740 bear who will

04:16:17.280 kill you

04:16:17.660 or a random

04:16:18.380 woman who

04:16:18.860 50-50 chance

04:16:20.120 might claim

04:16:20.580 essay against

04:16:21.140 you

04:16:21.380 also hey

04:16:22.240 Andrew

04:16:22.620 with a question

04:16:23.720 mark

04:16:23.880 well I would

04:16:24.960 still prefer

04:16:25.480 not to die

04:16:26.160 so I guess

04:16:27.580 I would take

04:16:28.140 the woman

04:16:28.980 that seems

04:16:29.680 like I would

04:16:30.040 have the better

04:16:30.480 odds

04:16:30.900 there you

04:16:31.720 go

04:16:32.020 there you

04:16:33.160 go

04:16:33.480 okay

04:16:33.800 before I

04:16:35.660 get into

04:16:39.980 all the

04:16:40.180 pre-show

04:16:40.440 notes from

04:16:40.840 everybody

04:16:41.400 anybody have

04:16:42.980 maybe you've

04:16:43.620 seen the

04:16:43.840 show before

04:16:44.400 you've seen

04:16:45.220 Andrew

04:16:45.480 clips of

04:16:45.900 Andrew

04:16:46.140 clips of

04:16:46.540 me

04:16:46.680 any

04:16:46.880 disagreements

04:16:47.540 disagreements

04:16:49.600 disagreements

04:16:50.300 I already

04:16:51.200 said mine

04:16:51.620 any other

04:16:52.500 disagreements

04:16:53.040 than the

04:16:53.340 disagreements

04:16:53.800 we've already

04:16:54.180 had

04:16:54.460 any

04:16:54.820 going once

04:16:55.700 going twice

04:16:56.260 the pre-show

04:16:57.760 going

04:16:58.960 three times

04:17:00.400 well I'll

04:17:01.820 just get into

04:17:02.220 your pre-show

04:17:02.680 notes if

04:17:03.020 there's

04:17:03.180 anything

04:17:03.380 else

04:17:03.760 okay

04:17:04.340 not

04:17:05.360 anything

04:17:05.660 okay

04:17:06.060 all right

04:17:06.400 let's

04:17:07.300 see

04:17:07.540 Katie

04:17:08.100 oh

04:17:08.980 nope

04:17:09.360 she

04:17:09.680 was

04:17:10.400 that's

04:17:11.920 a no

04:17:12.100 show

04:17:12.340 we have

04:17:12.800 Mel

04:17:13.420 okay

04:17:14.780 moving

04:17:15.180 to

04:17:15.400 Mel

04:17:15.840 Mel

04:17:16.580 Mel

04:17:17.520 okay

04:17:17.900 Mel

04:17:18.340 by the

04:17:19.080 way

04:17:19.200 Andrew

04:17:19.460 she's

04:17:19.760 Australian

04:17:20.240 any

04:17:20.820 thoughts

04:17:21.060 on that

04:17:21.660 New

04:17:23.820 Zealand

04:17:24.180 you

04:17:24.380 say

04:17:24.660 Andrew

04:17:27.600 has

04:17:27.820 beef

04:17:28.120 I

04:17:28.260 think

04:17:28.460 with

04:17:28.700 Australia

04:17:29.240 I

04:17:29.440 don't

04:17:29.520 know

04:17:29.980 I

04:17:30.420 heard

04:17:30.600 New

04:17:30.800 Zealand

04:17:31.160 that's

04:17:31.680 okay

04:17:32.180 apparently

04:17:33.380 it doesn't

04:17:33.720 exist

04:17:34.100 this place

04:17:34.900 you

04:17:36.280 describe

04:17:36.980 yourself

04:17:37.240 as a

04:17:37.740 conservative

04:17:38.180 Christian

04:17:38.660 woman

04:17:38.980 but a

04:17:39.500 former

04:17:39.920 progressive

04:17:40.460 what do

04:17:41.360 you mean

04:17:41.540 by that

04:17:42.000 I

04:17:42.920 went

04:17:43.120 to

04:17:43.220 congratulations

04:17:43.820 on your

04:17:44.240 recovery

04:17:44.640 by the

04:17:45.000 way

04:17:45.180 thank

04:17:45.740 you

04:17:45.860 very

04:17:46.040 much

04:17:46.380 I

04:17:46.880 went

04:17:47.080 to

04:17:47.280 a

04:17:47.460 very

04:17:47.860 progressive

04:17:48.660 high

04:17:49.020 school

04:17:49.380 it

04:17:50.240 was

04:17:50.460 like

04:17:50.720 predominantly

04:17:51.280 performing

04:17:51.880 arts

04:17:52.280 and

04:17:53.220 I

04:17:53.840 was

04:17:54.040 very

04:17:54.420 conditioned

04:17:54.980 into

04:17:55.500 sort

04:17:56.280 of

04:17:56.660 the

04:17:56.860 left

04:17:58.180 leaning

04:17:58.540 ideology

04:17:59.460 like

04:17:59.820 in

04:17:59.940 every

04:18:00.200 way

04:18:00.480 especially

04:18:01.360 because I

04:18:01.760 didn't

04:18:01.920 grow up

04:18:02.300 in a

04:18:02.860 very

04:18:03.160 politically

04:18:03.680 driven

04:18:04.140 household

04:18:05.080 so all

04:18:05.920 of my

04:18:06.220 ideas

04:18:06.740 were kind

04:18:07.040 of formed

04:18:07.440 from

04:18:07.740 high school

04:18:08.480 so pretty

04:18:10.980 much for

04:18:11.320 18 years

04:18:11.820 of my

04:18:12.080 life I

04:18:12.400 had the

04:18:12.940 same

04:18:13.260 political

04:18:14.020 outlook

04:18:14.520 until I

04:18:15.460 graduated

04:18:16.020 are

04:18:16.800 are

04:18:16.820 your

04:18:16.940 parents

04:18:17.360 conservative

04:18:18.900 I

04:18:20.460 would

04:18:20.640 say

04:18:20.900 my

04:18:21.100 mom

04:18:21.360 is

04:18:21.520 more

04:18:21.740 conservative

04:18:22.220 than

04:18:24.480 she is

04:18:25.500 progressive

04:18:25.980 I

04:18:26.260 would

04:18:27.160 consider

04:18:27.500 her

04:18:27.700 a

04:18:27.820 conservative

04:18:28.200 I

04:18:28.400 think

04:18:28.520 I

04:18:28.620 was

04:18:28.760 gone

04:18:29.000 when

04:18:29.240 are

04:18:29.880 your

04:18:30.000 parents

04:18:30.200 still

04:18:30.380 together

04:18:30.640 no

04:18:30.980 okay

04:18:31.640 are you

04:18:34.320 in touch

04:18:34.640 with your

04:18:34.940 dad

04:18:35.260 at all

04:18:35.540 no

04:18:35.920 there was

04:18:38.560 a divorce

04:18:38.980 when you

04:18:39.380 were young

04:18:39.780 yeah

04:18:40.160 okay

04:18:40.680 how young

04:18:41.580 three

04:18:42.560 all right

04:18:43.700 okay

04:18:44.060 and so

04:18:44.980 mom

04:18:45.520 a bit

04:18:46.480 more

04:18:46.640 conservative

04:18:47.020 than she

04:18:47.480 is

04:18:47.740 progressive

04:18:48.260 yeah

04:18:48.820 I would

04:18:49.120 say

04:18:49.260 she's

04:18:49.580 overall

04:18:49.920 conservative

04:18:50.380 all right

04:18:50.780 and you

04:18:51.020 said

04:18:51.140 you're

04:18:51.280 Christian

04:18:51.700 what

04:18:52.680 do you

04:18:53.120 have

04:18:53.220 a

04:18:53.320 denomination

04:18:53.820 or

04:18:54.220 I

04:18:54.740 was

04:18:55.240 like

04:18:56.680 christened

04:18:57.400 or baptized

04:18:57.980 as a

04:18:59.000 protestant

04:18:59.540 but

04:19:00.200 my mom's

04:19:01.120 side

04:19:01.300 is

04:19:01.480 orthodox

04:19:02.000 so I

04:19:02.460 am

04:19:03.160 interested

04:19:03.560 in

04:19:03.940 eventually

04:19:04.680 converting

04:19:05.280 once I

04:19:05.920 do

04:19:06.040 enough

04:19:06.280 research

04:19:06.860 okay

04:19:07.880 into

04:19:08.260 that

04:19:08.480 all right

04:19:10.260 cool

04:19:10.460 Eastern

04:19:11.380 orthodoxy

04:19:12.380 yeah

04:19:13.000 all right

04:19:15.120 I'm half

04:19:16.120 Greek

04:19:16.380 so like

04:19:17.260 I have

04:19:18.280 a sort

04:19:18.680 of

04:19:19.280 connection

04:19:19.720 is that

04:19:20.500 the good

04:19:21.480 half

04:19:21.800 yeah

04:19:22.660 I was

04:19:23.840 raised

04:19:24.160 Eastern

04:19:24.620 Orthodox

04:19:25.060 you said

04:19:26.720 that you've

04:19:27.260 only had

04:19:27.560 one long

04:19:28.000 term

04:19:28.160 no no

04:19:28.480 no no

04:19:28.780 no

04:19:29.120 no

04:19:29.620 no

04:19:29.820 no

04:19:30.140 so I've

04:19:31.000 talked

04:19:31.200 with you

04:19:31.520 before

04:19:31.880 you are

04:19:32.900 a cradle

04:19:33.500 orthodox

04:19:34.400 that's true

04:19:34.780 you're

04:19:34.960 baptized

04:19:35.200 in the

04:19:35.560 church

04:19:35.780 but you

04:19:36.180 said

04:19:36.380 you were

04:19:36.620 not

04:19:36.840 actually

04:19:37.360 raised

04:19:38.040 with

04:19:38.380 those

04:19:38.620 values

04:19:39.100 themselves

04:19:39.680 my

04:19:40.420 mother

04:19:40.840 did not

04:19:41.340 raise

04:19:41.680 me

04:19:41.860 with

04:19:42.080 those

04:19:42.320 values

04:19:42.780 but it

04:19:43.240 doesn't

04:19:43.660 mean

04:19:44.040 that

04:19:44.800 my

04:19:45.680 entire

04:19:46.220 family

04:19:46.680 didn't

04:19:47.060 have

04:19:47.340 those

04:19:47.580 values

04:19:47.980 I was

04:19:48.480 pushed

04:19:49.120 into

04:19:49.740 those

04:19:50.100 values

04:19:50.540 and then

04:19:51.060 once I

04:19:51.460 got seven

04:19:52.100 I started

04:19:53.000 getting

04:19:53.400 headaches

04:19:53.940 primarily

04:19:54.680 mostly

04:19:55.320 because of

04:19:56.160 the incense

04:19:56.820 as we've

04:19:57.540 discussed

04:19:58.160 but I

04:20:00.080 just rebelled

04:20:01.040 because it

04:20:02.160 didn't make

04:20:03.240 sense

04:20:03.420 all right

04:20:03.620 you've gotten

04:20:03.940 enough attention

04:20:04.580 tonight

04:20:04.920 so

04:20:05.220 wow

04:20:05.660 thank you

04:20:06.240 all right

04:20:06.720 only

04:20:07.800 you've only

04:20:08.380 had one

04:20:08.900 long-term

04:20:09.460 relationship

04:20:10.180 you're dating

04:20:10.680 for marriage

04:20:11.140 yes

04:20:11.680 and you

04:20:11.960 say it's

04:20:12.260 unpopular

04:20:12.800 at your

04:20:13.200 age

04:20:13.480 in Australian

04:20:14.140 culture

04:20:14.600 and it

04:20:15.340 makes it

04:20:15.620 hard

04:20:15.900 so what

04:20:16.680 is the

04:20:17.000 sort of

04:20:17.420 culture

04:20:18.000 in Australia

04:20:18.920 right now

04:20:19.560 related to

04:20:20.620 that

04:20:20.880 it's very

04:20:21.860 casual

04:20:22.380 I feel like

04:20:23.880 you really

04:20:24.240 have to

04:20:24.660 really dig

04:20:25.560 deep if you

04:20:26.100 want to find

04:20:26.780 someone that's

04:20:27.540 also dating

04:20:28.020 for marriage

04:20:28.640 everyone at

04:20:30.080 church especially

04:20:30.920 in the Greek

04:20:32.060 Orthodox church

04:20:33.560 that I have

04:20:34.160 been to

04:20:34.640 like I've

04:20:34.940 been to a

04:20:35.340 few

04:20:35.540 you won't

04:20:37.180 find anyone

04:20:37.780 that's like

04:20:38.620 under 30

04:20:39.300 even though

04:20:41.760 actually probably

04:20:42.320 40 that's

04:20:43.540 already married

04:20:44.980 and you're

04:20:45.260 trying to date

04:20:45.720 within the

04:20:46.180 church or

04:20:47.260 I mean that

04:20:47.880 would probably

04:20:48.340 be the most

04:20:49.820 like I would

04:20:50.860 find the most

04:20:51.400 alignment I

04:20:52.000 would say

04:20:52.420 I mean it's

04:20:53.680 like if I even

04:20:54.940 tried going

04:20:55.640 outside of the

04:20:56.640 church or any

04:20:57.340 sort of

04:20:57.920 conservative realm

04:20:58.740 like I would

04:20:59.320 have no chance

04:21:00.020 to clarify for

04:21:01.300 you Brian

04:21:01.760 if you're an

04:21:03.120 Eastern Orthodox

04:21:03.600 Christian you

04:21:04.900 cannot marry

04:21:05.680 outside of

04:21:07.240 Eastern Orthodox

04:21:07.900 Christianity

04:21:08.520 okay and

04:21:10.940 are you trying

04:21:13.120 to like you

04:21:13.900 said they're

04:21:14.260 all like old

04:21:14.860 older men

04:21:15.740 though so

04:21:16.360 would you date

04:21:17.080 them like

04:21:17.640 married yeah

04:21:18.260 they're already

04:21:18.840 they're all

04:21:19.700 married not

04:21:20.040 married men

04:21:20.540 obviously

04:21:20.880 okay all

04:21:22.080 right I

04:21:22.500 see let's

04:21:24.320 see and then

04:21:24.940 you said you

04:21:25.480 wanted to talk

04:21:26.320 on a couple of

04:21:27.140 different things

04:21:27.560 there's quite a

04:21:28.060 lot here

04:21:28.840 hookup culture

04:21:29.660 the destruction

04:21:30.180 of marriage

04:21:30.560 only fans

04:21:30.980 pornography

04:21:31.380 dating apps

04:21:31.880 the progressive

04:21:32.340 masculine

04:21:33.180 masculinization

04:21:34.220 of women

04:21:34.760 and the

04:21:35.020 feminization

04:21:35.540 of men

04:21:35.840 gender roles

04:21:36.520 abortion

04:21:36.860 incentivizing

04:21:37.600 divorce for

04:21:38.120 women

04:21:38.340 the unserious

04:21:39.480 nature and

04:21:39.900 removal of

04:21:40.460 religion from

04:21:41.340 marriage in

04:21:41.940 today's generation

04:21:43.180 go ahead rapid

04:21:45.040 fire this

04:21:46.220 we have some

04:21:52.140 OF girls here

04:21:52.920 OF OF like

04:21:54.780 let's you know

04:21:55.460 like hear your

04:21:56.740 thoughts on

04:21:57.580 only fans

04:21:59.100 I think

04:22:01.140 it's very

04:22:02.080 destructive to

04:22:02.820 society as a

04:22:03.520 whole I

04:22:04.180 mean I

04:22:04.520 don't think

04:22:04.780 there's a

04:22:05.060 benefit to

04:22:05.620 women or

04:22:06.140 men like

04:22:07.120 no matter how

04:22:07.800 you cut it

04:22:08.400 besides finance

04:22:09.840 I don't know

04:22:10.640 what benefit

04:22:12.500 you would be

04:22:13.440 receiving as a

04:22:14.220 woman for

04:22:14.960 having an

04:22:15.760 only fans account

04:22:16.540 that would

04:22:16.880 improve your

04:22:17.440 life

04:22:17.820 boom

04:22:18.200 roasted

04:22:18.560 I can't

04:22:19.980 yes

04:22:20.360 chill

04:22:20.880 no you

04:22:22.780 can't you've

04:22:23.180 already talked

04:22:23.540 too much

04:22:24.020 oh so now

04:22:26.080 we can't

04:22:27.320 talk too

04:22:27.800 much

04:22:28.200 okay say

04:22:29.180 your thing

04:22:29.520 that's probably

04:22:30.440 not going to

04:22:30.760 be related

04:22:31.160 but okay

04:22:31.640 go

04:22:31.780 no I

04:22:33.120 agree I

04:22:33.660 think what's

04:22:34.440 lacking is I

04:22:35.460 think it's

04:22:35.920 important for

04:22:36.460 people to have

04:22:37.000 passion in their

04:22:37.760 life and also

04:22:39.560 when AI is going

04:22:40.200 to take over

04:22:40.740 all the only

04:22:42.040 fans like how

04:22:43.020 I think it's

04:22:45.660 something that's

04:22:46.640 not sustainable

04:22:47.680 so I think

04:22:49.100 it's important

04:22:49.640 to find

04:22:50.120 something that

04:22:50.640 you truly like

04:22:51.260 to do because

04:22:51.800 the world is

04:22:52.320 changing so

04:22:52.900 fast

04:22:53.220 that's an

04:22:56.360 interesting

04:22:56.740 that was

04:22:57.060 beautiful

04:22:57.500 you don't

04:22:59.220 agree with

04:23:00.080 that

04:23:00.200 you don't

04:23:01.060 think people

04:23:01.820 should have

04:23:02.300 some passion

04:23:03.340 that they

04:23:03.800 just because

04:23:04.260 you know

04:23:04.680 girls are

04:23:05.040 OF doesn't

04:23:05.600 mean they

04:23:05.900 have a

04:23:06.220 personality

04:23:06.620 outside of

04:23:07.120 and a

04:23:07.420 passion

04:23:07.760 no no

04:23:08.140 I'm saying

04:23:10.240 if for

04:23:11.460 example

04:23:11.860 it is the

04:23:12.800 fact that

04:23:13.280 AI is

04:23:13.960 men creating

04:23:15.160 profiles and

04:23:16.080 using AI

04:23:16.860 women

04:23:17.380 so in

04:23:18.260 ten years

04:23:18.880 like it's

04:23:19.680 going to be

04:23:20.020 so even

04:23:21.100 five years

04:23:21.760 it's going

04:23:22.060 to be so

04:23:22.340 prevalent

04:23:22.760 how are we

04:23:23.900 going to

04:23:24.100 stand against

04:23:24.840 perfect AI

04:23:25.600 women

04:23:25.940 also kind of

04:23:26.740 talking about

04:23:27.180 like the

04:23:27.480 OF like I

04:23:28.680 feel like no

04:23:29.980 hate whatsoever

04:23:30.700 you guys do

04:23:31.420 what you guys

04:23:31.800 need to do

04:23:32.200 but just like I

04:23:33.240 feel like from

04:23:33.740 there it's kind

04:23:34.520 of giving men

04:23:35.440 like an idea

04:23:36.240 of like what

04:23:36.740 women should be

04:23:37.360 because then like

04:23:38.000 I'm like not

04:23:38.520 hating on men

04:23:39.080 that was my

04:23:39.640 knuckles

04:23:39.960 sorry I do

04:23:40.860 that when I

04:23:42.080 get in

04:23:42.760 earlier

04:23:43.440 yeah I can do

04:23:45.160 all of them

04:23:45.620 but I just

04:23:47.100 think like I'm

04:23:48.640 like with you

04:23:49.600 on this but

04:23:50.720 it's more like

04:23:51.220 if you portray

04:23:52.500 yourself as that

04:23:53.180 online if you

04:23:53.820 are allowing men

04:23:54.860 to like pay to

04:23:55.800 see your body

04:23:56.380 to see yourself

04:23:57.120 to see like the

04:23:57.800 like parts of

04:23:58.760 yourself that only

04:23:59.360 like in my

04:24:00.180 opinion your

04:24:00.520 partner should

04:24:00.980 see and it's

04:24:02.320 just like that's

04:24:03.540 kind of destroying

04:24:04.480 our culture from

04:24:05.560 there it's making

04:24:06.960 that normal for

04:24:08.520 men to just be

04:24:09.220 like oh I want

04:24:10.200 to I want to

04:24:10.880 jerk off I want

04:24:11.520 to have a good

04:24:11.940 time I'm going

04:24:12.660 to go to

04:24:13.280 Oling fans

04:24:13.780 see a girl

04:24:14.280 on there

04:24:14.660 and then when

04:24:15.560 there's actual

04:24:16.160 real women that

04:24:17.100 want connections

04:24:17.860 with men that's

04:24:19.400 kind of like their

04:24:19.920 first thought not

04:24:20.780 all men just in

04:24:21.600 general it's just

04:24:22.160 like oh like

04:24:23.240 that's what I

04:24:23.860 want that's why

04:24:24.440 I want to hook

04:24:24.860 up culture that's

04:24:25.440 why I want this

04:24:26.040 so I feel like

04:24:26.780 do you want to

04:24:27.120 be with a man

04:24:27.560 who's like that

04:24:28.060 anyways who's

04:24:28.640 expecting you to

04:24:29.220 be like a

04:24:29.640 fucking I don't

04:24:30.800 OF just whore

04:24:32.080 all the time

04:24:32.700 like 100%

04:24:33.260 I don't know

04:24:33.720 what I'm saying

04:24:34.260 is having oh

04:24:35.140 having that as

04:24:35.860 an option in

04:24:36.620 general or like

04:24:37.540 porn or whatever

04:24:38.300 having that as

04:24:38.740 an option in

04:24:39.160 general so you

04:24:39.820 think oh porn

04:24:40.360 should be

04:24:40.660 abolished as

04:24:41.240 well yes I

04:24:43.060 do I don't

04:24:43.840 think awesome

04:24:44.620 great erotic

04:24:45.800 art I don't

04:24:46.720 she's based

04:24:47.360 she's super

04:24:48.000 based well she

04:24:49.380 may so you're

04:24:49.980 making you're

04:24:51.300 making an

04:24:51.700 anti-feminist

04:24:52.640 argument that

04:24:53.820 the anti-suffragettes

04:24:54.880 used to make

04:24:55.400 actually so they

04:24:56.900 consider promiscuity

04:24:58.600 to be a huge

04:24:59.880 problem because they

04:25:01.680 thought that it

04:25:02.300 would destroy the

04:25:03.040 quality of the

04:25:03.740 men and so what

04:25:05.500 used to happen is

04:25:06.340 there was a

04:25:06.760 sisterhood based

04:25:07.840 around chastity

04:25:08.760 the reason for

04:25:09.580 this is because

04:25:10.520 if they all

04:25:11.640 held to chastity

04:25:12.640 they can have

04:25:13.020 their pick of

04:25:13.500 the highest quality

04:25:14.200 men and now

04:25:15.700 if every woman

04:25:17.120 is competing for

04:25:17.980 a smaller percentage

04:25:18.940 of men you end

04:25:20.260 up with these

04:25:20.760 kinds of massive

04:25:21.420 cultural problems

04:25:22.340 which you're seeing

04:25:22.880 in front of you

04:25:23.380 right now at

04:25:24.420 least that was the

04:25:25.100 argument then

04:25:25.820 I agree and

04:25:27.120 you know with the

04:25:28.300 only fans it's just

04:25:29.460 sad because you

04:25:30.300 guys have been

04:25:30.880 sold a raw deal

04:25:32.240 you have been

04:25:33.180 taught that this

04:25:34.320 is empowerment and

04:25:35.660 what it is is the

04:25:36.540 most misogynistic

04:25:37.800 thing you can do

04:25:38.680 what not hold

04:25:40.740 on because

04:25:41.360 hold on because

04:25:43.140 let me fight on

04:25:43.840 you're allowing

04:25:44.780 you are allowing

04:25:46.100 men to pay you

04:25:47.900 to show your

04:25:49.660 body and that

04:25:50.960 is not empowerment

04:25:51.840 that is giving

04:25:53.100 the man his

04:25:54.280 primal desires

04:25:55.740 and really all

04:25:57.060 you're getting is

04:25:57.680 money for it

04:25:58.680 and they're okay

04:25:59.980 with that

04:26:00.260 how's that

04:26:00.800 misogyny though

04:26:01.980 because it's just

04:26:03.900 the men have the

04:26:05.320 power not the

04:26:06.120 women in that

04:26:07.020 situation

04:26:07.380 how would that

04:26:07.780 even be

04:26:08.120 misogyny

04:26:08.720 because the

04:26:09.900 men are in

04:26:10.360 the power

04:26:10.900 power position

04:26:12.540 in that situation

04:26:13.600 wouldn't that be

04:26:14.100 I mean if men

04:26:15.040 are in power

04:26:15.440 wouldn't that be

04:26:15.920 a patriarchy

04:26:16.600 whatever

04:26:18.000 whatever you

04:26:18.740 want to call it

04:26:19.040 yeah but why

04:26:19.180 would that be

04:26:19.560 misogyny

04:26:20.460 I just

04:26:21.120 I sorry

04:26:22.060 maybe I chose

04:26:22.840 the wrong word

04:26:23.520 I just think

04:26:24.700 you're giving

04:26:25.440 your power to

04:26:26.160 the men

04:26:27.000 not taking it

04:26:27.840 for yourself

04:26:28.480 it's also

04:26:29.160 feeling really

04:26:29.840 shitty

04:26:30.080 because at least

04:26:30.800 for me I

04:26:31.320 don't like posting

04:26:32.200 that kind of stuff

04:26:32.780 online that's not

04:26:33.460 that's not what

04:26:34.240 I am

04:26:34.620 but then it's also

04:26:36.880 like men are

04:26:37.520 expecting that

04:26:38.220 from me

04:26:38.700 in a sense

04:26:39.660 and I'm like

04:26:40.060 I'm sorry

04:26:40.480 I don't post

04:26:41.800 bikini pictures

04:26:42.340 I don't do

04:26:42.900 OnlyFans

04:26:43.340 I don't do

04:26:43.840 this kind of

04:26:44.300 stuff

04:26:44.560 and then

04:26:45.000 it's hurting

04:26:47.200 women in general

04:26:48.320 in my opinion

04:26:49.100 it's making

04:26:49.980 everyone else's

04:26:51.080 their view on

04:26:53.680 themselves

04:26:54.080 is just kind

04:26:54.900 of degrading

04:26:56.000 after a while

04:26:56.880 in my opinion

04:26:57.520 because we're

04:26:58.560 normal

04:26:59.660 or no I'm not

04:27:00.560 going to say

04:27:00.800 normal that was

04:27:01.280 a bad choice of

04:27:01.760 words but oh

04:27:03.140 sorry

04:27:03.440 it's all good

04:27:03.940 yeah

04:27:04.200 okay so let's

04:27:06.700 see here

04:27:07.340 should we ban

04:27:09.740 porn

04:27:10.020 I think we

04:27:10.900 should ban

04:27:11.260 porn and

04:27:11.820 social media

04:27:12.400 except for

04:27:12.860 YouTube

04:27:13.180 and my

04:27:14.400 social media

04:27:15.160 accounts

04:27:15.500 so then what

04:27:17.300 about art

04:27:18.000 what about all

04:27:18.780 of the

04:27:19.280 all the

04:27:19.780 erotic

04:27:20.300 businesses

04:27:20.960 like what

04:27:22.440 about like

04:27:23.120 do you need

04:27:23.860 social media

04:27:24.480 for that

04:27:24.940 yeah to promote

04:27:26.040 your small

04:27:26.420 business

04:27:26.740 a hundred percent

04:27:27.440 are you just

04:27:29.140 going to stand

04:27:29.560 on the corner

04:27:30.040 of the street

04:27:30.540 and show people

04:27:31.000 if there's

04:27:31.340 absolutely no

04:27:31.980 social media

04:27:32.660 other yeah

04:27:33.540 you'll find

04:27:33.980 ways you'll

04:27:34.460 put stuff

04:27:35.000 on street

04:27:35.560 corners

04:27:35.840 what did

04:27:36.100 they do

04:27:36.500 when we

04:27:36.940 didn't have

04:27:37.360 any social

04:27:37.780 media

04:27:38.120 in like

04:27:38.640 the 50s

04:27:39.700 60s

04:27:40.240 70s

04:27:40.620 so this

04:27:42.440 is unrelated

04:27:42.960 to dating

04:27:43.640 this is

04:27:44.820 unrelated

04:27:45.160 to dating

04:27:45.700 but I

04:27:46.000 feel like

04:27:46.380 ever since

04:27:47.080 social media

04:27:47.680 subcultures

04:27:48.560 have kind

04:27:49.600 of died

04:27:50.140 and also

04:27:51.360 like there's

04:27:51.840 not there's

04:27:52.760 there's this

04:27:53.140 term called

04:27:53.560 monoculture

04:27:54.340 like there'd

04:27:54.820 be these

04:27:55.160 like cultural

04:27:56.660 touchstone

04:27:57.860 events

04:27:58.360 but now things

04:27:59.440 move so rapidly

04:28:00.260 like things

04:28:01.020 are just

04:28:01.320 gone

04:28:01.640 but like

04:28:02.020 if a movie

04:28:02.860 a major

04:28:03.440 movie came

04:28:03.980 out in

04:28:04.700 like the

04:28:04.980 90s

04:28:05.440 early 2000s

04:28:06.520 like everybody

04:28:08.080 that was like

04:28:09.320 a cultural

04:28:09.860 touchstone

04:28:10.540 but now it's

04:28:11.500 so fragmented

04:28:12.320 with social

04:28:13.380 media because

04:28:13.960 now everyone

04:28:14.420 has these

04:28:14.760 like sub

04:28:15.200 niches

04:28:15.600 things move

04:28:16.360 so rapidly

04:28:17.240 it's just

04:28:19.400 totally

04:28:19.980 like American

04:28:21.120 pie

04:28:21.500 that movie

04:28:22.480 was a

04:28:23.220 cultural

04:28:23.760 touchstone

04:28:24.540 super bad

04:28:26.960 was also

04:28:27.420 kind of a

04:28:28.060 cultural

04:28:29.020 touchstone

04:28:29.700 but all

04:28:31.140 those

04:28:31.480 monoculture

04:28:32.420 things died

04:28:33.040 once social

04:28:34.080 media came

04:28:34.460 around

04:28:34.600 anyways

04:28:35.060 wait back

04:28:35.960 to you

04:28:36.560 you also

04:28:37.000 said that

04:28:37.560 you wanted

04:28:39.040 to discuss

04:28:40.140 religion

04:28:40.560 marriage

04:28:40.980 from my

04:28:41.360 understanding

04:28:41.780 Brian is

04:28:42.280 personally

04:28:42.620 against

04:28:43.060 marriage

04:28:43.520 and not

04:28:43.860 religious

04:28:44.380 did you

04:28:46.320 want to

04:28:46.860 am I

04:28:48.060 right about

04:28:48.440 that

04:28:48.720 are you

04:28:49.120 religious

04:28:49.460 I know

04:28:50.340 that you're

04:28:50.980 opposed to

04:28:51.600 marriage

04:28:51.720 well Andrew's

04:28:52.280 working on

04:28:52.860 me

04:28:53.100 Andrew's

04:28:53.840 working on

04:28:54.360 me

04:28:54.720 I would

04:28:59.080 become

04:28:59.500 I mean

04:28:59.820 I've said

04:29:00.420 this before

04:29:00.840 on the show

04:29:01.320 you know

04:29:02.920 I'm taking

04:29:03.880 a look at

04:29:04.600 orthodox

04:29:06.080 Christianity

04:29:07.020 so

04:29:09.320 I'm a work

04:29:11.340 in progress

04:29:11.900 I'm a work

04:29:12.420 in progress

04:29:12.980 with Andrew

04:29:13.580 here

04:29:13.760 everyone has

04:29:14.300 to start

04:29:14.640 somewhere

04:29:15.000 and just

04:29:15.600 coming from

04:29:16.000 a 19

04:29:17.140 year old

04:29:17.320 and so

04:29:17.560 maybe

04:29:17.860 marriage

04:29:19.180 is in

04:29:19.560 100%

04:29:20.280 out of

04:29:20.640 the cards

04:29:21.160 if I

04:29:22.740 get there

04:29:23.900 but right

04:29:25.380 now it's

04:29:25.900 probably out

04:29:27.040 of the cards

04:29:27.420 but who

04:29:28.980 knows

04:29:29.240 someone could

04:29:30.860 be able

04:29:31.120 to convince

04:29:31.580 me

04:29:32.120 but no

04:29:33.420 I'm not

04:29:33.620 going to

04:29:33.760 get married

04:29:34.100 most likely

04:29:35.640 but probably

04:29:37.060 maybe

04:29:37.560 maybe

04:29:38.180 but probably

04:29:38.880 not

04:29:39.180 there's a

04:29:40.520 chance

04:29:40.800 but

04:29:41.080 probably

04:29:41.880 not

04:29:42.260 get married

04:29:43.760 who knows

04:29:44.220 about the

04:29:44.500 religion

04:29:44.820 part

04:29:45.260 Andrew

04:29:46.240 can I

04:29:46.560 still

04:29:46.760 become

04:29:47.220 an

04:29:47.440 orthodox

04:29:48.000 christian

04:29:48.360 but just

04:29:48.620 not get

04:29:48.900 married

04:29:49.140 or am

04:29:49.940 I going

04:29:50.140 to like

04:29:50.440 get

04:29:50.640 no you

04:29:51.860 don't

04:29:52.220 you can

04:29:52.760 become

04:29:53.000 an orthodox

04:29:53.500 christian

04:29:53.880 and not get

04:29:54.200 married

04:29:54.480 but they're

04:29:55.420 not going to

04:29:55.660 be happy

04:29:56.060 if you're

04:29:56.480 cooming

04:29:56.820 if I'm

04:29:57.480 philandering

04:29:58.180 you can't

04:30:00.480 be a

04:30:00.720 coomer

04:30:00.980 bro

04:30:01.260 wait I'm

04:30:01.560 not a

04:30:01.840 coomer

04:30:02.160 bro

04:30:02.580 philander

04:30:03.400 I know

04:30:03.900 but you're

04:30:04.840 not

04:30:05.180 but if you

04:30:06.360 don't get

04:30:06.660 married

04:30:07.020 and you're

04:30:07.440 you know

04:30:07.940 having premarital

04:30:09.800 sex

04:30:10.080 if you're

04:30:10.460 having carnal

04:30:11.520 relations

04:30:12.020 outside of

04:30:12.740 marriage

04:30:13.100 then that's

04:30:14.340 a no no

04:30:15.120 what if it's

04:30:16.760 with a long

04:30:17.300 term relationship

04:30:18.600 I just want to

04:30:20.140 say this

04:30:20.400 Jesse guy

04:30:20.860 keeps like

04:30:21.420 putting stuff

04:30:22.740 on there

04:30:23.080 and I just

04:30:23.340 want to say

04:30:23.540 I see you

04:30:24.060 I appreciate

04:30:24.660 that

04:30:24.980 I love it

04:30:25.660 it's just a lot

04:30:26.720 of like good

04:30:27.260 vibes from

04:30:27.960 christians

04:30:28.440 talking about

04:30:28.940 god and the

04:30:29.420 lord

04:30:29.620 w jesse

04:30:31.340 w jesse

04:30:32.840 thank you man

04:30:33.380 appreciate it

04:30:34.060 okay

04:30:34.400 so I would

04:30:35.400 just say

04:30:35.800 at this point

04:30:36.500 right you're

04:30:37.280 you're what

04:30:37.740 I would consider

04:30:38.420 an inquirer

04:30:39.600 right you're

04:30:40.040 just you're

04:30:40.500 just doing

04:30:40.840 an inquiry

04:30:41.500 what's called

04:30:41.960 an inquiry

04:30:42.580 we're not

04:30:43.480 asking you

04:30:44.240 to become

04:30:45.060 some full

04:30:45.620 blown convert

04:30:46.360 tomorrow

04:30:46.760 nothing of

04:30:47.260 the sort

04:30:47.640 just you

04:30:48.980 know go

04:30:49.500 to the church

04:30:50.040 every once

04:30:50.640 in a while

04:30:51.060 talk to the

04:30:51.780 people around

04:30:52.280 there I

04:30:53.160 think you'll

04:30:53.480 like it

04:30:53.800 brian

04:30:54.020 well I was

04:30:55.460 gonna try

04:30:56.500 to go

04:30:56.740 with rachel

04:30:57.260 but it

04:30:57.860 just

04:30:58.100 do they

04:30:58.800 have any

04:30:59.080 like afternoon

04:30:59.940 yeah

04:31:01.300 sometimes

04:31:01.880 yeah they

04:31:02.240 have I

04:31:02.800 did I

04:31:03.120 did look at

04:31:03.500 the church

04:31:03.840 there in

04:31:04.120 santa barbara

04:31:04.680 and they do

04:31:05.200 have actually

04:31:05.920 weekday afternoon

04:31:06.960 stuff I'll be

04:31:08.120 out there soon

04:31:08.780 enough I'll see

04:31:09.620 if I can drag

04:31:10.160 you to one

04:31:10.640 okay

04:31:11.280 and you know

04:31:12.140 we'll go to

04:31:12.560 the go to

04:31:12.980 one of the

04:31:13.360 easy ones

04:31:14.100 right like

04:31:14.800 vespers

04:31:15.260 it's only it's

04:31:15.920 only 20-30

04:31:16.540 minutes in

04:31:17.220 and out

04:31:17.620 and then we

04:31:18.480 go to in

04:31:18.900 and out

04:31:19.240 right that's

04:31:19.880 that's pretty

04:31:21.160 good

04:31:21.360 in and out

04:31:21.860 okay yeah we

04:31:23.200 could do that

04:31:23.660 we'll do that

04:31:24.300 my sleep schedule

04:31:26.100 right now is

04:31:26.540 terrible you know

04:31:27.220 so

04:31:27.540 mine too

04:31:28.600 I'm waking up

04:31:29.540 and like

04:31:29.980 I can't get up

04:31:31.960 like what are these

04:31:33.080 eight in the morning

04:31:34.040 nine in the morning

04:31:34.700 it's hard

04:31:35.660 anyways

04:31:36.000 so I guess

04:31:38.260 what was your

04:31:38.780 disagreement

04:31:39.180 just in terms

04:31:41.520 of marriage

04:31:41.940 like but the

04:31:42.960 thing is I can

04:31:43.440 understand why

04:31:44.160 you're opposed to

04:31:44.800 marriage because

04:31:45.300 there isn't really

04:31:45.960 an incentive anymore

04:31:46.960 to be married

04:31:48.240 especially if you're

04:31:49.380 not religious

04:31:49.840 true

04:31:50.480 so it's more

04:31:52.660 of like just a

04:31:53.340 disagreement on

04:31:54.020 personal decisions

04:31:55.760 not okay

04:31:56.600 not really

04:31:57.220 yeah

04:31:58.260 got it

04:31:59.580 well moving on

04:32:00.860 to Paula

04:32:01.900 you said you

04:32:02.560 were raised in

04:32:03.140 a cult

04:32:03.680 yes I was

04:32:05.060 you left the

04:32:06.620 cult

04:32:06.900 yes I did

04:32:07.920 you became a

04:32:08.240 single mom of

04:32:08.780 four

04:32:09.140 yep

04:32:10.000 your family is

04:32:10.980 psychotic

04:32:11.500 yes

04:32:12.160 and your

04:32:12.540 kid's dad

04:32:13.440 walked away

04:32:13.980 and you

04:32:14.420 became homeless

04:32:15.480 four kids

04:32:16.280 damn that's

04:32:16.820 crazy

04:32:17.160 and then

04:32:19.640 what was the

04:32:20.960 cult

04:32:21.280 what

04:32:21.560 was it like

04:32:23.820 a meditation

04:32:24.580 wait rather

04:32:25.740 well okay

04:32:26.560 say it

04:32:27.460 don't say it

04:32:28.520 I was Mormon

04:32:29.000 oh you were

04:32:29.620 Mormon

04:32:29.860 yeah

04:32:30.340 wait that was

04:32:30.720 the cult

04:32:31.080 absolutely

04:32:32.520 they were a

04:32:32.960 cult

04:32:33.180 absolutely

04:32:33.900 I thought they

04:32:34.220 were just like

04:32:34.700 aren't they just

04:32:35.220 a religion

04:32:35.820 it's a cult

04:32:37.840 oh heck yeah

04:32:38.600 the whole thing

04:32:39.720 well

04:32:39.980 is the whole thing

04:32:40.780 yes

04:32:41.640 so which

04:32:42.540 which type of

04:32:43.420 Mormon were you

04:32:44.100 Salt Lake City

04:32:44.720 Mormon

04:32:45.080 which time

04:32:46.000 yeah but which

04:32:46.700 which kind of

04:32:47.680 Salt Lake City

04:32:48.600 Mormon

04:32:48.920 were you in the

04:32:49.760 polygamy side

04:32:50.880 or the non-polygamy

04:32:51.920 so that's what

04:32:52.940 we would refer to

04:32:54.180 as Salt Lake City

04:32:54.960 style is

04:32:56.320 the mainstream

04:32:57.380 Mormon church

04:32:58.320 okay so just the

04:32:59.640 regular LDS

04:33:00.400 church

04:33:00.680 yeah but like

04:33:01.660 I don't want to

04:33:03.560 get into it too

04:33:04.220 much because I'll

04:33:04.880 go on a full-on

04:33:05.900 rant but there

04:33:07.320 are certain things

04:33:08.160 that identifies a

04:33:09.820 cult which is a

04:33:12.020 man stands between

04:33:13.020 you and God as far

04:33:14.900 as getting to heaven

04:33:16.020 that you have to

04:33:16.700 believe in a certain

04:33:17.940 man other than

04:33:18.760 Jesus Christ to get

04:33:19.680 into heaven

04:33:20.100 they tell you what

04:33:22.100 to do with your

04:33:22.620 money they tell you

04:33:23.920 what to wear they

04:33:24.980 tell you who to

04:33:25.660 associate with

04:33:26.640 the church or your

04:33:27.640 husband

04:33:28.000 the church

04:33:29.380 okay the church

04:33:30.140 so you have what's

04:33:31.500 called tithing

04:33:32.740 settlement every

04:33:33.480 single year and in

04:33:34.960 January the bishop

04:33:36.300 calls you into the

04:33:37.520 office and says have

04:33:38.960 you paid your full

04:33:39.760 10% this year and

04:33:41.820 if you say no he'd

04:33:42.880 be like how would

04:33:43.820 you like to take

04:33:44.460 care of that today

04:33:45.260 and if you don't

04:33:47.520 submit to paying

04:33:48.980 that 10% they

04:33:50.420 withhold certain

04:33:51.800 things from you

04:33:53.220 like you can't go

04:33:54.020 to the temple

04:33:54.640 so and in the

04:33:57.280 temple you learn

04:33:57.920 how to get to

04:33:58.460 heaven and they

04:33:59.740 do rites and

04:34:00.880 symbols and all

04:34:02.080 this stuff so they

04:34:02.820 withhold things from

04:34:03.920 you if you do not

04:34:05.180 align 100% with

04:34:07.080 what they believe

04:34:08.240 okay

04:34:08.760 I can totally see

04:34:11.400 why you went

04:34:11.980 mental

04:34:12.540 no I left

04:34:14.080 can you get

04:34:14.500 excommunicated

04:34:15.120 I don't know

04:34:15.640 you can get

04:34:16.420 excommunicated

04:34:17.800 I've been

04:34:18.240 disfellowshipped

04:34:18.960 for fooling

04:34:21.220 around with a guy

04:34:21.760 I got disfellowshipped

04:34:22.720 oh okay

04:34:24.580 you said I guess

04:34:26.340 moving things on

04:34:27.040 from the whole

04:34:28.240 cult thing

04:34:28.900 you had a male

04:34:30.220 therapist

04:34:30.880 is this after the

04:34:32.760 cult

04:34:33.020 before okay

04:34:34.460 when I was

04:34:35.180 single with four

04:34:35.900 kids

04:34:36.060 a male therapist

04:34:36.940 who advised you

04:34:38.000 to get an

04:34:38.560 OnlyFans page

04:34:39.680 and make money

04:34:40.820 off of your

04:34:41.720 sex addiction

04:34:42.720 which you had

04:34:44.240 before

04:34:44.780 correct

04:34:45.540 that is so

04:34:46.980 predatory

04:34:47.540 he also asked

04:34:48.440 me to discuss

04:34:50.200 Fifty Shades of

04:34:51.000 Grey with him

04:34:51.680 and towards the

04:34:52.920 end he said

04:34:53.620 his license

04:34:54.440 needs taken

04:34:54.980 away

04:34:55.320 he goes

04:34:55.440 I know you

04:34:56.840 want to crawl

04:34:57.300 across this

04:34:57.820 desk at me

04:34:58.340 right now

04:34:59.540 did you tell

04:35:02.000 the people

04:35:02.480 I was working

04:35:03.200 for

04:35:03.480 did you tell

04:35:04.580 like his boss

04:35:05.280 or someone

04:35:05.580 higher up to him

04:35:06.320 that's horrible

04:35:07.640 so yeah

04:35:08.420 but see

04:35:09.120 the thing

04:35:09.480 is

04:35:09.720 predators

04:35:10.300 know

04:35:11.100 predators

04:35:12.620 know

04:35:13.300 victims

04:35:14.640 no

04:35:15.800 that's not

04:35:16.420 absolutely

04:35:16.900 wrong

04:35:17.240 I was

04:35:17.840 more

04:35:18.500 25 years

04:35:19.840 yeah

04:35:20.780 they come

04:35:21.180 recognize the

04:35:21.960 patterns

04:35:22.360 he was

04:35:22.820 like a

04:35:23.620 licensed

04:35:24.240 therapist

04:35:25.040 therapist

04:35:26.160 counselor

04:35:27.400 what was his

04:35:28.640 what's the

04:35:29.100 like title

04:35:29.580 L

04:35:29.900 L

04:35:30.400 L

04:35:31.400 L

04:35:31.960 L

04:35:32.240 L

04:35:32.860 L

04:35:32.940 L

04:35:32.960 L

04:35:33.000 L

04:35:33.460 L

04:35:34.400 L

04:35:34.660 L

04:35:34.860 L

04:35:34.900 L

04:35:34.940 L

04:35:34.960 L

04:35:35.000 L

04:35:35.040 L

04:35:35.060 L

04:35:35.100 L

04:35:35.140 L

04:35:35.640 L

04:35:35.660 L

04:35:36.660 L

04:35:36.900 L

04:35:36.960 yeah

04:35:37.480 counselor

04:35:38.360 that's

04:35:40.140 probably

04:35:40.400 unethical

04:35:41.160 but okay

04:35:41.800 probably

04:35:42.460 so

04:35:43.840 just real

04:35:44.740 quick

04:35:45.000 backing up

04:35:45.600 briefly

04:35:46.060 were you

04:35:47.540 and your

04:35:47.760 husband

04:35:48.000 in the

04:35:48.280 church

04:35:48.480 together

04:35:48.920 yes

04:35:49.620 and that

04:35:49.980 was why

04:35:50.580 when we

04:35:51.160 left the

04:35:51.660 church

04:35:51.960 he left

04:35:52.680 the family

04:35:53.220 and left

04:35:53.860 me

04:35:54.000 okay

04:35:54.260 so he

04:35:54.620 stayed

04:35:54.920 with the

04:35:55.300 church

04:35:55.620 no

04:35:55.900 no

04:35:56.160 we left

04:35:56.720 the church

04:35:57.140 together

04:35:57.560 and then

04:35:58.060 he left

04:35:58.680 he said

04:35:59.380 to me

04:35:59.680 he goes

04:36:00.020 had I

04:36:00.400 not been

04:36:00.740 Mormon

04:36:01.000 I would

04:36:01.320 have

04:36:01.440 never

04:36:01.720 gotten

04:36:02.120 married

04:36:02.400 and had

04:36:02.780 four

04:36:03.060 kids

04:36:03.480 and I

04:36:03.840 said

04:36:04.080 had I

04:36:04.420 not been

04:36:04.740 Mormon

04:36:04.980 I wouldn't

04:36:05.320 have

04:36:05.460 married

04:36:05.700 you in

04:36:05.940 a million

04:36:06.160 years

04:36:06.580 wow

04:36:07.700 so

04:36:08.820 brutal

04:36:09.260 because

04:36:10.300 the church

04:36:11.460 puts so

04:36:12.100 much pressure

04:36:12.600 on people

04:36:13.080 to get

04:36:14.600 married

04:36:15.000 not have

04:36:15.800 sex outside

04:36:16.440 of marriage

04:36:16.920 so these

04:36:17.520 guys go on

04:36:18.160 their mission

04:36:18.600 they come

04:36:19.060 home

04:36:19.420 they're 20

04:36:20.040 something

04:36:20.380 they're horny

04:36:21.040 so they get

04:36:22.000 married within

04:36:22.560 a year of

04:36:23.080 coming home

04:36:23.440 from their

04:36:23.760 mission

04:36:24.040 that's what

04:36:24.500 they're taught

04:36:24.980 I know

04:36:26.440 people personally

04:36:27.280 that are

04:36:27.720 my age

04:36:28.300 that are

04:36:28.560 married

04:36:28.940 my friends

04:36:30.660 all were

04:36:31.060 married

04:36:31.460 by

04:36:31.800 when I

04:36:33.280 was

04:36:33.720 I was

04:36:35.720 25

04:36:36.480 when I

04:36:37.080 got married

04:36:37.520 and I

04:36:38.140 was probably

04:36:38.640 one of the

04:36:39.060 only women

04:36:39.780 I knew

04:36:40.180 that weren't

04:36:40.860 married

04:36:41.180 at that

04:36:41.540 time

04:36:41.860 were you

04:36:42.660 born

04:36:43.080 into

04:36:43.680 no

04:36:44.220 my parents

04:36:44.800 joined the

04:36:45.320 church

04:36:45.520 when I

04:36:45.780 was 10

04:36:46.260 and I

04:36:46.700 was a

04:36:47.240 Mormon

04:36:47.460 from the

04:36:47.980 time I

04:36:48.280 was 10

04:36:48.700 till I

04:36:49.040 was 35

04:36:49.620 and I

04:36:50.100 held

04:36:50.360 all different

04:36:51.220 things

04:36:51.760 I taught

04:36:53.100 missionary

04:36:54.480 lessons

04:36:55.080 I was

04:36:56.060 in the

04:36:56.340 relief

04:36:56.600 society

04:36:57.160 I wasn't

04:36:59.120 like

04:36:59.440 so they

04:36:59.680 didn't

04:36:59.880 raise you

04:37:01.160 with those

04:37:01.760 views

04:37:01.940 until you

04:37:02.380 were 10

04:37:02.760 and then

04:37:03.100 they

04:37:03.380 converted

04:37:03.860 and in

04:37:04.260 return

04:37:04.640 obviously

04:37:05.220 you had

04:37:05.620 to go

04:37:05.800 with them

04:37:06.080 so

04:37:07.680 I guess

04:37:09.400 moving

04:37:09.740 things on

04:37:10.240 a little

04:37:10.520 bit

04:37:10.820 you said

04:37:12.500 you do

04:37:12.900 disagree

04:37:13.300 on occasion

04:37:14.080 and it

04:37:15.320 was mainly

04:37:15.880 the

04:37:16.420 marriage

04:37:18.020 the comments

04:37:18.900 I've heard

04:37:19.300 you make

04:37:19.620 about marriage

04:37:20.200 so that

04:37:20.560 was

04:37:20.740 I'll do

04:37:23.040 it for

04:37:23.240 five minutes

04:37:23.740 we can

04:37:24.240 argue

04:37:24.680 for five

04:37:25.080 minutes

04:37:25.320 let's do

04:37:25.680 it

04:37:26.020 no

04:37:26.360 I just

04:37:26.880 you know

04:37:28.140 I'm just

04:37:28.520 a more

04:37:28.820 traditional

04:37:29.280 I've

04:37:29.840 you know

04:37:30.300 I'm more

04:37:31.180 like the

04:37:31.820 who is that

04:37:32.800 gosh

04:37:33.620 can't think

04:37:34.260 of it

04:37:34.500 no it's

04:37:35.860 fine

04:37:36.120 it's

04:37:36.540 it's

04:37:37.060 just

04:37:37.320 who you

04:37:37.960 are

04:37:38.180 and that's

04:37:38.620 you have

04:37:38.980 your own

04:37:39.280 road

04:37:39.620 to travel

04:37:40.660 I've got

04:37:40.980 my own

04:37:41.300 road

04:37:41.760 you do

04:37:42.800 does he

04:37:43.580 have his

04:37:43.920 own

04:37:44.120 journey

04:37:44.560 do I have

04:37:45.100 a journey

04:37:45.600 is it

04:37:45.980 an adventure

04:37:46.720 he has

04:37:47.740 his own

04:37:48.100 path

04:37:48.420 it's an

04:37:48.620 adventure

04:37:49.100 Brian

04:37:49.620 I'm

04:37:50.540 going

04:37:50.820 I'm

04:37:51.160 finding

04:37:51.620 myself

04:37:52.220 I'm

04:37:52.620 just

04:37:52.840 I'm

04:37:55.260 just

04:37:55.420 trying to

04:37:55.760 find

04:37:56.080 myself

04:37:56.600 as a

04:37:57.340 man

04:37:57.660 like I'm

04:37:58.160 just trying

04:37:58.500 to find

04:37:58.960 myself

04:37:59.520 and that

04:38:00.600 if that

04:38:01.020 involves

04:38:01.620 having

04:38:02.460 dozens

04:38:03.700 of casual

04:38:04.500 sexual

04:38:04.940 oh

04:38:06.460 wait no

04:38:07.360 I'm kidding

04:38:07.740 that's what

04:38:08.640 women

04:38:09.140 say

04:38:09.980 I don't

04:38:10.820 I don't

04:38:11.180 actually enjoy

04:38:11.820 having

04:38:12.980 multiple

04:38:13.660 casual

04:38:13.980 sexual

04:38:14.280 partners

04:38:14.560 at the

04:38:14.860 same

04:38:15.020 time

04:38:15.340 do you

04:38:16.300 read

04:38:17.560 Jordan

04:38:17.940 Peterson

04:38:18.360 or anything

04:38:19.060 like that

04:38:19.820 sure

04:38:21.080 yeah I'm

04:38:21.660 familiar with

04:38:22.140 him although

04:38:22.440 I've kind

04:38:23.160 of

04:38:24.180 I feel like

04:38:24.860 he's fallen

04:38:25.280 a little bit

04:38:25.780 out of favor

04:38:26.540 over the

04:38:27.100 years but

04:38:27.500 what about

04:38:28.720 him

04:38:28.880 well just

04:38:29.160 because he

04:38:29.660 promotes

04:38:30.320 men getting

04:38:31.280 married and

04:38:31.960 having children

04:38:32.660 and

04:38:33.280 I feel like

04:38:34.740 Jordan's not

04:38:35.360 the best

04:38:35.880 role model

04:38:36.720 you have to

04:38:38.300 clean your

04:38:38.760 room

04:38:39.060 bucko

04:38:39.680 oh that was

04:38:40.300 good

04:38:40.600 wait Andrew

04:38:41.680 keep going

04:38:42.180 you're doing

04:38:42.460 the rest of

04:38:42.860 the show

04:38:43.040 as a

04:38:43.340 Jordan

04:38:43.580 Peterson

04:38:43.920 impression

04:38:44.900 rest of

04:38:46.480 the show

04:38:46.820 you have to

04:38:47.500 do the

04:38:47.720 that's the

04:38:48.200 problem

04:38:48.640 then isn't

04:38:49.360 it

04:38:49.700 that's

04:38:50.460 good

04:38:50.660 that's

04:38:51.640 fucking

04:38:52.160 good

04:38:52.660 that's

04:38:53.900 that's

04:38:54.660 an impression

04:38:55.160 of my

04:38:55.720 friend Jim

04:38:56.220 Bob's

04:38:56.520 impression

04:38:56.920 he does

04:38:57.340 good

04:38:57.560 I'm doing

04:38:58.480 I'm doing

04:38:58.940 a terrible

04:38:59.520 impression

04:39:00.220 that was

04:39:01.080 great

04:39:02.320 wow okay

04:39:03.900 I think

04:39:06.060 my

04:39:06.400 criticism

04:39:07.120 of

04:39:08.380 Jordan

04:39:08.820 Peterson

04:39:09.380 is

04:39:11.140 he

04:39:11.780 there was a

04:39:14.240 video that

04:39:14.580 recently came

04:39:15.200 out and I

04:39:15.760 think his

04:39:16.080 wife was

04:39:17.620 being

04:39:18.000 interviewed

04:39:19.220 and this

04:39:20.300 kind of

04:39:20.620 I was

04:39:21.240 she was

04:39:23.780 when he

04:39:24.900 started pursuing

04:39:25.720 her she was

04:39:26.400 involved with

04:39:27.260 another man

04:39:28.220 and was

04:39:29.900 she

04:39:30.220 I don't

04:39:30.940 want I

04:39:31.180 don't want to

04:39:31.480 like say

04:39:32.460 something that's

04:39:32.900 not true

04:39:33.340 she was like

04:39:34.720 maybe somebody

04:39:35.200 in the chat

04:39:35.600 knows the

04:39:36.000 clip I'm

04:39:36.320 talking about

04:39:36.960 was she

04:39:37.900 like painting

04:39:39.000 no she was

04:39:40.120 doing nude

04:39:40.880 it wasn't

04:39:42.160 like porn

04:39:42.800 but she

04:39:43.400 was doing

04:39:43.740 like posing

04:39:44.800 nude for art

04:39:45.800 classes

04:39:46.420 which some

04:39:50.060 people gave

04:39:51.100 Jordan flack

04:39:51.940 for I

04:39:52.380 believe is

04:39:52.840 that the

04:39:53.120 case chat

04:39:53.700 Nick could

04:39:55.040 you pull up

04:39:55.380 the chat

04:39:55.720 so I can

04:39:56.120 see

04:39:56.420 you're talking

04:39:58.680 about Michaela

04:39:59.380 no I'm

04:40:00.100 talking about

04:40:00.620 Jordan's

04:40:01.160 wife

04:40:01.580 she was

04:40:02.800 a

04:40:04.200 wife model

04:40:06.260 at a

04:40:06.960 painting class

04:40:07.620 she was a

04:40:08.120 nude model

04:40:08.620 I think

04:40:09.520 I don't

04:40:10.360 remember

04:40:10.700 precisely so I

04:40:11.420 could be

04:40:11.680 wrong don't

04:40:12.120 sue me

04:40:12.520 but

04:40:13.120 and then

04:40:16.060 she was

04:40:16.400 living with

04:40:17.300 and dating

04:40:17.740 another man

04:40:19.120 while he

04:40:20.080 was pursuing

04:40:20.840 her

04:40:21.540 I don't

04:40:24.480 I don't

04:40:26.460 know bro

04:40:27.120 do you

04:40:28.280 have but

04:40:28.740 do you have

04:40:29.100 any philosophical

04:40:30.040 differences with

04:40:31.520 him or like

04:40:32.140 his world view

04:40:33.080 do you have

04:40:33.700 distinction or

04:40:34.440 differences there

04:40:35.200 I've definitely

04:40:37.120 heard some

04:40:37.700 things I

04:40:38.320 disagree with

04:40:39.260 I think he

04:40:40.060 puts a

04:40:42.440 lot of

04:40:42.960 blame on

04:40:43.520 men in

04:40:44.920 the dating

04:40:45.520 marketplace

04:40:45.980 he'll say

04:40:46.900 ultimately it's

04:40:49.080 a man

04:40:49.420 I don't

04:40:50.020 I don't

04:40:50.340 want to

04:40:50.520 again I

04:40:51.020 would have

04:40:51.640 to find the

04:40:52.120 actual quote

04:40:52.700 or the

04:40:52.960 video but

04:40:53.860 I think he

04:40:54.440 puts a

04:40:54.800 disproportionate

04:40:55.500 amount of

04:40:56.120 blame on

04:40:57.320 men when it

04:40:58.540 comes to

04:40:58.880 sort of the

04:40:59.320 dating

04:40:59.540 frustrations

04:41:00.180 that they

04:41:01.120 face and

04:41:01.880 some of it

04:41:02.420 look there

04:41:02.940 are certainly

04:41:03.340 ways that

04:41:04.120 men are

04:41:05.300 lacking

04:41:05.660 but I

04:41:06.920 think it's

04:41:07.360 he

04:41:07.500 disproportionately

04:41:08.220 puts blame

04:41:09.520 on men

04:41:09.980 so yeah

04:41:12.640 I was in

04:41:13.020 an argument

04:41:13.480 with Michaela

04:41:14.200 on Twitter

04:41:14.680 the other

04:41:15.060 day that

04:41:15.680 was kind

04:41:15.960 of funny

04:41:16.300 were you

04:41:16.580 guys going

04:41:16.880 back and

04:41:17.240 forth or

04:41:17.780 yeah

04:41:19.200 but it

04:41:21.800 wasn't on

04:41:22.300 it was just

04:41:23.080 mostly I

04:41:23.860 think it was

04:41:24.300 on her

04:41:24.680 centrist

04:41:25.100 views I

04:41:25.660 like Jordan

04:41:26.140 she said

04:41:27.580 something stupid

04:41:28.260 and I was

04:41:28.600 like what

04:41:29.020 I like

04:41:30.840 Jordan

04:41:31.160 though I

04:41:31.580 like Jordan

04:41:32.060 I'm not

04:41:32.600 trying to

04:41:32.900 talk shit

04:41:33.240 about his

04:41:33.560 wife I

04:41:33.900 just I

04:41:35.080 saw that

04:41:35.480 interview and

04:41:35.980 I was like

04:41:36.360 oh that's

04:41:37.240 like oh I

04:41:39.220 don't know I

04:41:39.540 don't know how I

04:41:39.940 feel about that

04:41:40.980 but anyways

04:41:41.460 so there's been a

04:41:43.880 lot of good

04:41:44.260 arguments on

04:41:44.860 Twitter this past

04:41:45.640 week it's been

04:41:46.740 yeah it's been

04:41:47.280 interesting yeah

04:41:47.660 like like Drew

04:41:48.320 and Pearl

04:41:48.780 she was on the

04:41:50.480 podcast when I

04:41:51.160 was here I

04:41:52.460 wish I would

04:41:52.780 have known who

04:41:53.200 she was and

04:41:53.740 like actually

04:41:54.160 watched her

04:41:54.700 stuff before

04:41:55.400 coming on or

04:41:56.640 else I would

04:41:56.960 have torn into

04:41:57.680 her a lot more

04:41:58.200 because I love

04:41:58.780 Drew so I

04:41:59.700 guess I actually

04:42:00.540 wait wait what

04:42:01.400 are you beating

04:42:01.720 up on Pearl

04:42:02.300 Davis about

04:42:03.020 she's great

04:42:03.560 she says the

04:42:03.980 craziest most

04:42:04.960 outlandish things

04:42:05.560 and I think

04:42:06.000 that she's smart

04:42:06.740 enough like

04:42:07.340 talking to her

04:42:07.920 like she's

04:42:08.460 smart like

04:42:09.400 intelligent enough

04:42:10.400 to know what

04:42:11.080 she's saying is

04:42:11.880 just like baiting

04:42:12.720 people to just

04:42:13.420 like be like

04:42:14.360 what the fuck

04:42:15.020 because she's

04:42:15.560 like has all

04:42:16.620 these just

04:42:17.180 outlandish things

04:42:18.100 I'm not gonna

04:42:18.460 like dog on her

04:42:19.220 right now because

04:42:19.800 she's not here to

04:42:20.320 defend herself but

04:42:21.100 I'm just saying

04:42:21.580 like if I would

04:42:22.960 have had context

04:42:23.800 of who she was

04:42:24.420 and seen like

04:42:25.100 who she was prior

04:42:26.940 to coming into

04:42:27.660 the whatever podcast

04:42:28.320 I would have had

04:42:28.880 a lot more to

04:42:29.420 say to her

04:42:29.860 oh yeah you

04:42:30.280 were on that

04:42:30.840 show when Pearl

04:42:31.460 was on

04:42:31.780 I just didn't

04:42:32.860 know who she

04:42:33.280 was I had no

04:42:33.800 idea who she

04:42:34.200 was until after

04:42:34.880 I left and

04:42:36.060 then she started

04:42:36.820 popping up on my

04:42:37.480 tiktok and I was

04:42:38.100 like oh my god

04:42:38.940 what

04:42:39.320 well she's not

04:42:40.680 really here to

04:42:41.240 yeah exactly

04:42:42.380 that's what I

04:42:42.780 said she's not

04:42:43.380 here to defend

04:42:43.720 herself so I'm

04:42:44.140 not gonna go

04:42:44.560 into it but I've

04:42:45.540 just seen a lot

04:42:45.940 of good

04:42:46.180 how about you

04:42:47.480 give us one

04:42:48.020 thing that you

04:42:48.600 disagree with

04:42:49.180 her on

04:42:49.540 she outwardly

04:42:53.480 said that

04:42:54.720 well two things

04:42:56.960 that were crazy

04:42:57.620 one was that

04:42:59.200 racism was

04:43:01.240 embellished and

04:43:02.100 that it wasn't

04:43:02.600 as bad

04:43:03.160 that's a crazy

04:43:04.580 thing to say

04:43:05.180 and then women

04:43:05.740 shouldn't vote

04:43:06.400 like those were

04:43:07.420 two of the crazy

04:43:08.120 things that I was

04:43:08.620 just like what

04:43:09.340 we're not gonna

04:43:09.660 get in I'm not

04:43:10.420 we're not gonna

04:43:10.960 get into

04:43:11.360 you asked me

04:43:12.540 you asked me

04:43:13.160 you asked me

04:43:13.900 okay I'm not

04:43:14.900 inclined to bite

04:43:15.700 on either of

04:43:16.280 those but

04:43:16.720 exactly that's

04:43:17.740 what I'm saying

04:43:18.260 yeah so okay

04:43:20.300 she just says

04:43:21.780 jaw-dropping things

04:43:22.740 is all I'm saying

04:43:23.420 just like

04:43:24.040 yeah she says

04:43:24.600 stuff I don't

04:43:25.240 I don't agree

04:43:26.120 with too but

04:43:27.120 in any case she's

04:43:28.920 not here so

04:43:29.580 but we'll have

04:43:30.840 her back on the

04:43:31.380 show so if you

04:43:31.880 want to voice

04:43:32.380 your disagreements

04:43:33.220 with her

04:43:33.520 I would love to

04:43:34.180 come back on

04:43:34.600 with her

04:43:34.900 set that up

04:43:35.720 I would love to

04:43:37.020 come back on

04:43:37.400 with her

04:43:37.760 and then wait

04:43:39.580 the

04:43:40.000 oh on the

04:43:41.600 marriage thing

04:43:42.100 we won't linger

04:43:42.800 on it but

04:43:43.280 really quick

04:43:43.800 so I'm always

04:43:44.960 interested in

04:43:45.560 hearing

04:43:45.920 make so make

04:43:49.200 a compelling

04:43:49.620 argument why

04:43:50.420 men should get

04:43:51.060 married

04:43:51.420 if you're not

04:43:52.980 religious it's

04:43:54.020 really really

04:43:55.320 difficult to give

04:43:56.500 a compelling reason

04:43:57.440 because I believe

04:43:58.340 it's a spiritual

04:43:59.060 thing

04:43:59.440 I believe

04:43:59.940 it's just a

04:44:01.320 fulfillment of

04:44:02.180 your duty as a

04:44:03.280 man of God

04:44:04.940 so if you're not

04:44:06.460 religious in any

04:44:08.340 way then why

04:44:09.100 bother

04:44:09.460 okay

04:44:11.120 alright

04:44:11.820 well I'll just

04:44:12.860 move on then

04:44:13.420 you think that if

04:44:15.040 somebody's not

04:44:15.440 religious they

04:44:16.060 they like

04:44:17.380 what's the point

04:44:18.360 in getting married

04:44:18.880 if you're not

04:44:19.240 religious

04:44:19.560 no I'm just

04:44:20.440 saying for a

04:44:21.140 man from his

04:44:21.880 perspective if he's

04:44:22.760 not religious

04:44:23.080 I mean that's

04:44:23.540 what I'm saying

04:44:24.080 and doesn't believe

04:44:25.120 yeah if you don't

04:44:26.380 believe you're

04:44:26.860 fulfilling God's

04:44:28.080 will for you

04:44:29.080 I can't think of

04:44:29.600 a single reason

04:44:30.800 on planet earth

04:44:31.520 why a secularist

04:44:32.380 would get married

04:44:33.600 a secularist man

04:44:34.580 a man who is

04:44:35.940 absent religion

04:44:36.940 I can't think of

04:44:37.540 a single compelling

04:44:38.220 reason for him to

04:44:39.000 get married in

04:44:39.580 today's market

04:44:40.260 what about children

04:44:41.840 you think that it's

04:44:42.680 not wait

04:44:43.320 they can have

04:44:44.040 children absent

04:44:44.660 marriage

04:44:45.140 yeah but like

04:44:46.620 isn't that the

04:44:47.300 whole like men's

04:44:48.300 thing that it's

04:44:49.220 like the men's

04:44:50.280 name passed on

04:44:51.480 through generations

04:44:52.480 yeah his name

04:44:53.520 will still pass

04:44:54.120 on to the next

04:44:54.620 generation

04:44:55.060 you still have

04:44:55.520 children without

04:44:55.960 getting married

04:44:56.340 yeah I still

04:44:56.480 have my dad's

04:44:57.200 last name even

04:44:57.820 though my mom

04:44:58.460 and dad were

04:44:58.960 never married

04:44:59.560 so that's not

04:45:00.900 a compelling

04:45:01.320 reason but I

04:45:01.940 definitely think

04:45:02.320 there's other

04:45:02.780 reasons why you

04:45:03.700 would want to

04:45:04.000 get married to

04:45:04.420 somebody even if

04:45:04.940 you're not

04:45:05.200 religious

04:45:05.480 like financially

04:45:07.460 it would be

04:45:08.300 smart and

04:45:09.440 it can be

04:45:11.360 if done the

04:45:11.900 right way

04:45:12.380 let's do one

04:45:13.940 point at a time

04:45:14.780 yeah one point

04:45:15.360 at a time

04:45:15.900 all right so

04:45:16.640 you said

04:45:16.900 financially

04:45:17.440 is it a smart

04:45:18.680 financial decision

04:45:19.520 if you end up

04:45:20.180 divorced

04:45:20.600 well you don't

04:45:22.740 get married with

04:45:23.440 the intention to

04:45:24.040 get divorced I

04:45:24.840 don't think anyone

04:45:25.460 that's like walking

04:45:26.240 down the aisle is

04:45:26.880 like I'm gonna

04:45:27.300 divorce this guy

04:45:27.960 in 20 years

04:45:28.660 right but do you

04:45:29.840 think okay so

04:45:30.520 here's the thing

04:45:31.280 though with this

04:45:31.760 whole like well

04:45:33.580 you know no one

04:45:34.460 has the intention

04:45:35.160 of getting married

04:45:36.500 and with going

04:45:37.780 with sorry there's

04:45:38.740 a bug tripping

04:45:39.420 me out with the

04:45:40.600 intention of getting

04:45:42.420 divorced right

04:45:43.260 but people who go

04:45:45.260 into the marriage

04:45:45.920 anticipating that

04:45:46.840 this is going to

04:45:47.640 be the person that

04:45:48.320 I'm going to stay

04:45:49.220 with forever I

04:45:49.820 really love them

04:45:50.520 everything's great

04:45:51.340 those people

04:45:52.820 one year two

04:45:53.540 year three year

04:45:54.100 four year five

04:45:54.760 year ten year

04:45:55.400 down the road

04:45:56.080 invariably ends

04:45:57.640 up getting

04:45:58.060 divorced yeah

04:45:59.040 I'm I know I'm

04:46:00.140 aware that most

04:46:01.240 marriages do end

04:46:02.360 in divorce I'm

04:46:03.200 aware that like

04:46:04.000 it's not super

04:46:05.360 probable that you

04:46:06.540 will be that

04:46:07.160 one in a thousand

04:46:08.580 or one in a

04:46:09.260 million person that

04:46:10.100 won't get divorced

04:46:11.340 but I don't think

04:46:11.940 anyone goes into

04:46:12.960 a marriage

04:46:13.740 willingly thinking

04:46:15.700 that yeah sure

04:46:16.320 but let us assume

04:46:17.960 for a minute

04:46:18.580 that 48 percent

04:46:20.740 or almost half

04:46:22.400 of everybody

04:46:23.380 who played

04:46:23.960 contact sports

04:46:24.860 got brain

04:46:25.440 damaged

04:46:25.880 so this is

04:46:27.300 half of

04:46:28.440 everybody who

04:46:29.380 plays it

04:46:29.740 not professionally

04:46:30.480 just they play

04:46:31.520 it they get

04:46:32.180 brain damaged

04:46:32.740 and your son

04:46:33.220 came to you

04:46:33.760 and said

04:46:34.160 mom I want

04:46:34.980 to play

04:46:35.220 contact sports

04:46:36.080 would you

04:46:36.380 tell him

04:46:36.720 not to

04:46:37.560 no but I'm

04:46:40.600 not saying

04:46:41.220 like okay

04:46:41.680 so all I'm

04:46:43.600 saying is that

04:46:44.160 it's like

04:46:44.640 there's other

04:46:45.500 reasons to get

04:46:46.540 married I'm not

04:46:47.420 saying you would

04:46:48.700 tell him to go

04:46:49.220 ahead and play

04:46:49.640 divorce what I

04:46:51.700 would tell him

04:46:52.220 to go ahead and

04:46:52.680 play him I

04:46:53.800 if my if my son

04:46:55.020 wanted to play

04:46:55.620 football a contact

04:46:56.560 sport I'm not

04:46:57.820 going to stop him

04:46:58.560 on the probability

04:46:59.300 that he could get

04:47:00.360 hurt you could get

04:47:01.320 hurt no no no

04:47:01.860 that's not that's

04:47:02.720 not I want you to

04:47:03.500 focus on this so

04:47:04.280 right now because I

04:47:05.900 think you're

04:47:06.160 misinterpreting what

04:47:07.460 I'm saying to you

04:47:08.160 right now your

04:47:09.120 chances of having

04:47:10.040 some type of

04:47:10.620 long-term injury

04:47:11.820 playing just kind

04:47:12.900 of regular contact

04:47:14.400 sport high school

04:47:15.360 football basketball

04:47:16.380 things like that

04:47:17.240 they're not very

04:47:18.080 high that your

04:47:19.680 chance of getting

04:47:20.400 a long-term energy

04:47:21.280 very very low but

04:47:22.620 let us assume for a

04:47:23.920 minute that the

04:47:24.460 chances were half

04:47:25.640 50 percent of all

04:47:27.320 people who played

04:47:28.120 contact sports were

04:47:29.040 going to get some

04:47:29.840 type of serious

04:47:30.860 injury wouldn't you

04:47:32.400 tell your son not

04:47:33.980 to do that then

04:47:34.900 no no even if

04:47:38.200 even if what I'm

04:47:39.500 not gonna tell I'm

04:47:40.940 not gonna tell my

04:47:41.740 son that he's not

04:47:42.800 allowed to play

04:47:43.800 sports if there's a

04:47:44.800 50 percent chance

04:47:45.700 that he could get

04:47:46.200 hurt okay I would

04:47:47.400 tell him to I would

04:47:48.400 tell him to wipe off

04:47:49.280 the and I would

04:47:50.200 tell me ask you

04:47:50.840 let me ask you a

04:47:51.480 different one he

04:47:52.580 just said 50 if 50

04:47:54.420 percent of the women

04:47:55.640 that your son could

04:47:57.020 potentially sleep with

04:47:58.300 had HIV would you

04:48:00.040 tell him not to

04:48:01.160 sleep with women I

04:48:02.840 would tell until

04:48:03.960 until they were

04:48:04.760 married or until

04:48:05.620 there was like a

04:48:06.540 seriously a firm

04:48:07.800 foundation where they

04:48:08.880 knew that they

04:48:10.000 wouldn't get HIV

04:48:10.800 50 percent if the

04:48:12.240 rate was every man

04:48:13.620 who had sex 50

04:48:14.860 percent of them got

04:48:15.580 HIV I would tell

04:48:17.440 him to just like

04:48:18.520 there's going to be

04:48:19.480 odds of like if you

04:48:20.440 sleep with one

04:48:21.620 person or a thousand

04:48:22.520 people there's going

04:48:23.120 to be a chance it

04:48:24.980 might be more

04:48:25.760 unlikely the less

04:48:26.760 people you sleep

04:48:27.280 with of course but

04:48:28.260 there's still a

04:48:28.720 chance for you to

04:48:29.700 get HIV or any

04:48:31.340 other STD but

04:48:32.820 living your life in

04:48:33.940 fear of not doing

04:48:35.200 something because of

04:48:36.280 the chance that

04:48:37.180 something could go

04:48:37.740 wrong that's like me

04:48:38.740 saying I shouldn't

04:48:39.460 have driven my car

04:48:40.600 because there's a

04:48:41.260 chance that I could

04:48:41.840 get in an accident

04:48:42.520 I think that if I

04:48:44.060 if you were in a

04:48:45.620 place where every

04:48:46.980 time you got in your

04:48:47.900 car there was a 50

04:48:49.120 percent chance you

04:48:50.140 were going to get in

04:48:50.640 an accident you would

04:48:51.660 recommend nobody ever

04:48:52.780 drive a car ever

04:48:53.700 again like for

04:48:55.240 instance imagine if I

04:48:56.200 gave you a scenario

04:48:56.800 where 50 percent of

04:48:58.040 people who picked up

04:48:59.240 a firearm died from a

04:49:02.060 gunshot wound 50

04:49:03.480 percent what I

04:49:04.840 mean wouldn't you

04:49:05.300 then be like no

04:49:06.260 guns like I mean

04:49:07.900 50 percent is that's

04:49:09.940 an incredible amount

04:49:11.200 right I understand

04:49:13.400 what you're saying

04:49:13.940 and I get that you're

04:49:14.520 trying to make the

04:49:15.140 analogy that 50

04:49:16.240 percent of marriages

04:49:17.300 end in divorce is

04:49:18.120 that where you're

04:49:18.500 going with that am I

04:49:19.300 right for assuming

04:49:19.960 that's I think it's

04:49:21.000 I think it's slightly

04:49:21.660 less but the the

04:49:23.060 point here is that

04:49:24.720 yeah it's it's a

04:49:25.960 massive amount yeah

04:49:27.320 the tune that it's

04:49:28.160 close enough that

04:49:29.300 I'm not deviating from

04:49:30.440 it doesn't matter

04:49:31.100 much right yeah of

04:49:32.380 course I'm not

04:49:32.820 denying the fact that

04:49:33.800 there is like a big

04:49:35.340 chance that I could

04:49:36.160 that the marriage

04:49:36.760 could end in divorce

04:49:37.620 but if I'm choosing

04:49:39.220 to marry someone and

04:49:40.860 it's not for religious

04:49:41.920 reasons it's because I

04:49:43.340 want to show them that

04:49:44.280 I'm committed to them

04:49:45.420 and wear something to

04:49:47.340 symbolize like a ring

04:49:48.860 to symbolize that I

04:49:50.840 am going to be

04:49:51.720 committed to them for

04:49:52.460 the rest of my life

04:49:53.280 that shows outwardly

04:49:54.420 to others that I am

04:49:55.700 completely off the

04:49:56.640 market not interested

04:49:57.520 and that also shows to

04:49:58.840 my partner going

04:50:00.080 through a ceremony

04:50:01.040 with all of my

04:50:01.960 family and friends

04:50:02.700 and relatives that I

04:50:04.020 am committing my

04:50:05.020 life for better or

04:50:06.580 for worse to another

04:50:07.260 person I don't yeah

04:50:08.460 but I don't understand

04:50:09.280 why you couldn't do

04:50:09.940 every single one of

04:50:11.040 those things I'm not

04:50:12.560 why couldn't you do

04:50:13.200 every single one of

04:50:13.980 those things and then

04:50:14.700 not get married so

04:50:15.660 for instance you could

04:50:16.320 have a ceremony where

04:50:17.760 you committed to the

04:50:18.480 person you could wear

04:50:20.220 something that showed

04:50:21.780 everybody that you

04:50:22.660 were committed that

04:50:23.700 would be recognizable you

04:50:24.940 could even wear a sign

04:50:25.820 that says I'm in a

04:50:26.580 committed relationship

04:50:27.320 why would any of

04:50:30.300 those be a requisite

04:50:31.480 for marriage from a

04:50:32.760 secular perspective

04:50:33.800 why involve the

04:50:34.820 government

04:50:35.200 yeah I mean I'm not

04:50:37.620 personally saying like

04:50:38.780 that I need to get

04:50:40.760 married even though I'm

04:50:42.260 not religious I'm just

04:50:43.700 saying that there are

04:50:44.860 thousands of millions

04:50:46.380 of people that want to

04:50:47.220 make that commitment to

04:50:48.740 their partner and not

04:50:49.960 and not for a

04:50:50.880 religious purpose I'm

04:50:52.280 not saying that it's

04:50:52.920 wrong or right to do

04:50:54.020 it for a religious

04:50:54.660 purpose obviously

04:50:55.480 whatever you believe in

04:50:56.540 your beliefs are

04:50:57.100 yours and you have

04:50:58.420 every right to you

04:50:59.280 know believe those

04:51:00.700 things I'm just saying

04:51:01.560 in general terms like

04:51:02.660 anyone can want to get

04:51:03.760 married and it's not

04:51:04.880 just because of a

04:51:06.800 religious purpose that's

04:51:08.340 all I'm saying

04:51:08.780 yeah but what I'm

04:51:09.400 saying what but my

04:51:10.600 counter to this is if

04:51:11.740 you could have all of

04:51:12.780 the things that it is

04:51:14.500 that you're after

04:51:15.200 without it being

04:51:16.420 marriage and you are

04:51:17.340 not religious what

04:51:18.820 would actually be your

04:51:19.820 incentive to get

04:51:20.680 married because if you

04:51:21.900 involve the state then

04:51:23.500 a man ups his risk

04:51:25.200 significantly rather than

04:51:27.280 if he does not so

04:51:28.740 from a man's

04:51:29.480 perspective if he's

04:51:30.300 non-religious why in

04:51:31.900 the world would he

04:51:32.440 ever want to involve

04:51:33.180 the state in any sort

04:51:34.320 of marriage

04:51:34.720 what risk does it

04:51:35.400 what what risk are you

04:51:36.840 explaining that it

04:51:38.240 would up or that

04:51:39.360 would make more

04:51:40.040 well so absent a

04:51:42.080 prenup judges are

04:51:43.480 more likely to default

04:51:44.980 to women when it

04:51:45.840 comes to child custody

04:51:46.940 though that is

04:51:47.800 getting better it's

04:51:48.620 still the default

04:51:49.540 they're far more

04:51:50.680 likely to get

04:51:51.240 alimony they're far

04:51:52.180 more likely to get

04:51:52.800 all sorts of

04:51:53.460 payments they're

04:51:54.140 far more likely to

04:51:54.840 have assets split

04:51:55.840 there's all sorts of

04:51:56.860 issues which come up

04:51:58.080 if they tie the knot

04:51:59.460 with the state they're

04:52:00.400 really marrying the

04:52:01.200 state they're not

04:52:01.720 really marrying you

04:52:02.620 yeah no I mean I

04:52:04.620 understand like your

04:52:05.500 points of view I was

04:52:06.580 just saying I wasn't

04:52:08.220 trying to say that

04:52:08.880 like I personally want

04:52:10.180 to get married and

04:52:11.240 even though I'm not

04:52:11.860 religious I'm just

04:52:12.500 saying that everyone

04:52:13.440 should have the right

04:52:14.440 to make that

04:52:14.960 commitment to their

04:52:15.700 partner if that's

04:52:16.520 what they so choose

04:52:17.640 to do whether they do

04:52:18.740 it under church or

04:52:20.600 under God is or

04:52:21.920 under whatever religion

04:52:22.860 is we're not talking

04:52:23.740 about this avoids the

04:52:24.900 question the question

04:52:26.040 isn't whether or not

04:52:26.920 people should be able

04:52:27.820 to get married if they

04:52:28.480 want to well the

04:52:29.680 question is well that

04:52:30.540 was her statement

04:52:31.680 that's why I said

04:52:33.180 what I said oh did

04:52:34.080 we just waste five

04:52:34.980 minutes because you

04:52:35.780 totally misunderstood

04:52:37.140 I asked her the

04:52:39.160 question I asked her

04:52:40.260 what I asked her

04:52:41.840 before I even started

04:52:42.820 on my tangent at all

04:52:44.120 I literally asked her

04:52:45.760 so you think the

04:52:47.020 conversation is about

04:52:48.100 should people have the

04:52:49.780 right to get married

04:52:51.620 I'm saying my

04:52:53.040 reasoning for why

04:52:54.020 people should still

04:52:55.220 like why it's not a

04:52:56.600 bad thing for people

04:52:57.420 and the reasons why

04:52:58.500 they can't why they

04:52:59.780 should or why they

04:53:00.800 would want to get

04:53:01.980 married despite not

04:53:03.280 being religious

04:53:03.940 well I haven't really

04:53:05.020 heard any good

04:53:05.880 reasons I said I

04:53:07.780 said several different

04:53:09.700 reasons I said

04:53:10.660 financial I said

04:53:11.680 financial and then I

04:53:12.900 also said I said

04:53:14.360 financial I also said

04:53:15.400 that it would be like

04:53:16.420 a commitment greater

04:53:17.440 than a girlfriend or

04:53:18.420 a boyfriend that you

04:53:19.560 would want to make to

04:53:20.700 somebody else in front

04:53:21.520 of all of your

04:53:22.120 significant others

04:53:22.860 he's saying you can

04:53:23.380 do that anyways but

04:53:24.620 what's the point in

04:53:25.520 doing that if you're

04:53:26.600 not actually that's

04:53:27.420 our point wait so

04:53:28.460 that's our entire

04:53:29.180 point what would be

04:53:30.560 the point doing any

04:53:31.480 of that absolute

04:53:32.320 religion if you get

04:53:33.780 all the better

04:53:34.180 everyone reserves the

04:53:35.740 right to do so if

04:53:36.680 they want to

04:53:37.080 hold on wait I

04:53:39.300 actually couldn't I

04:53:40.200 think I might be able

04:53:41.020 to make an argument

04:53:41.600 here wouldn't the

04:53:44.120 commitment be weaker

04:53:45.820 once you are married

04:53:47.680 as the woman as the

04:53:51.120 man the commitment

04:53:51.700 grows stronger as

04:53:53.580 the woman the

04:53:54.100 commitment grows

04:53:54.740 weaker could you

04:53:57.000 explain okay so yeah

04:53:58.600 we're dating I make a

04:54:01.420 million dollars a month

04:54:02.280 you make 50k a year

04:54:06.700 and eventually you

04:54:10.980 actually just stop

04:54:11.620 working because I'm

04:54:12.320 fully providing for

04:54:13.200 you now if I break

04:54:16.940 up with you and

04:54:17.400 we're just boyfriend

04:54:17.940 girlfriend you don't

04:54:20.920 get anything but if

04:54:23.340 we're married and you

04:54:25.540 are vaguely unhappy

04:54:27.440 with the relationship

04:54:28.280 for whatever reason

04:54:29.200 you can then end that

04:54:32.280 relationship and then

04:54:33.180 go on to get

04:54:33.880 alimony payments you

04:54:34.920 can get half of the

04:54:36.700 money that I earned

04:54:38.440 during the relationship

04:54:39.900 so if I earned 10

04:54:41.120 million dollars during

04:54:41.900 the course of our

04:54:42.420 marriage excuse me not

04:54:43.600 relationship during the

04:54:44.400 course of the marriage

04:54:45.060 if I earned 10

04:54:46.020 million dollars you get

04:54:47.160 five million I

04:54:50.020 understand what you're

04:54:50.480 saying so so it would

04:54:52.780 actually I would be

04:54:53.860 more in terms of the

04:54:55.600 commitment the man is

04:54:56.760 more inclined to stay

04:54:57.620 committed whereas the

04:54:59.000 woman now has a

04:54:59.860 financial incentive to

04:55:01.560 leave the relationship

04:55:02.820 because she gets paid

04:55:04.380 if she ends it yeah I

04:55:05.900 totally get what you're

04:55:06.900 saying but even let's

04:55:08.700 so I think you would I

04:55:10.000 think you would actually

04:55:10.780 she has a huge she has

04:55:12.560 a huge financial

04:55:13.720 incentive to end the

04:55:15.280 relationship yeah I

04:55:16.800 totally understand what

04:55:17.700 you're saying it's super

04:55:18.400 valid I just want to

04:55:20.200 counteract it just with

04:55:21.260 one thing what if the

04:55:22.720 roles were reversed and

04:55:23.760 the woman was the main

04:55:24.820 breadwinner not not

04:55:26.040 super conservative point

04:55:27.760 of view what does that

04:55:28.520 have to do with my

04:55:29.280 argument because couldn't

04:55:30.640 could you not do the

04:55:31.440 same thing how does that

04:55:32.260 work in a marriage I've

04:55:32.920 never like done much

04:55:33.920 research so like couldn't

04:55:34.940 you gain something so if

04:55:36.300 we looked at statistics

04:55:37.240 and we looked at who's

04:55:38.940 the primary breadwinner in

04:55:40.340 relationships no I'm not

04:55:42.080 saying statistically who's

04:55:43.460 usually the main breadwinner I

04:55:44.940 agree that the man is

04:55:46.080 yes okay a woman who's

04:55:48.120 extremely wealthy has the

04:55:49.800 same financial concerns as

04:55:51.580 the man although I would

04:55:53.000 say that they're a bit

04:55:54.000 lessened because one

04:55:55.740 there's a bias in the

04:55:56.620 court system and then two

04:55:58.240 men are less likely to ask

04:56:00.980 for to pursue alimony they

04:56:05.000 men still do and they

04:56:06.600 still can yeah but they're

04:56:08.020 less likely to pursue

04:56:09.540 alimony even if they're

04:56:10.840 entitled to it yeah let's

04:56:12.820 just assume but yes I am

04:56:14.720 the same risk exactly okay

04:56:16.400 so let me just say this

04:56:17.860 just to close this off

04:56:18.980 because I don't want to

04:56:19.660 keep going with it because

04:56:20.480 I understand that other

04:56:21.480 people want to talk to

04:56:22.320 yeah but if I am the

04:56:25.120 main breadwinner with the

04:56:26.180 exact same things that you

04:56:27.420 said you would have in the

04:56:28.840 marriage I would still want

04:56:31.440 to take that risk to show

04:56:32.900 my partner that I want to

04:56:33.980 be committed to them and

04:56:34.980 that is why can't she why

04:56:37.240 can't your partner show

04:56:39.380 their commitment to you by

04:56:41.460 saying I don't need to get

04:56:43.700 married I love you so much

04:56:45.260 it doesn't matter who having

04:56:47.320 the government involved yeah

04:56:49.060 like what about a

04:56:49.740 commitment ceremony I'm not

04:56:51.100 even saying that I'm like

04:56:52.180 planning on getting married

04:56:53.080 I'm just saying in

04:56:53.700 generalized terms like right

04:56:55.540 but if that was if it's

04:56:56.400 not under if it's not under

04:56:57.500 a church like I would even

04:56:59.040 if I was the main breadwinner

04:57:00.560 and I was making all the

04:57:01.680 money I was putting myself at

04:57:02.940 risk I would still want to

04:57:04.840 get married to my partner

04:57:05.880 and show them that I'm like

04:57:07.040 committed to them for the

04:57:08.080 rest of my life okay and

04:57:09.740 that's just what I would

04:57:10.380 want to do I want to tie

04:57:11.460 their names to them

04:57:12.160 you're saying off camera you'll

04:57:24.300 give me 50% of your net worth

04:57:25.500 no I'm saying I would tell you

04:57:26.840 oh I thought you were asking me

04:57:28.040 to tell you I don't need to know

04:57:29.380 what it is I just want you to

04:57:30.580 give it to me if we were in if

04:57:33.420 we were marriage and decided to

04:57:34.940 get divorced because of

04:57:36.280 whatever reason it is then I

04:57:38.460 would be willing to go to court

04:57:39.680 and fight for my stuff or it's

04:57:41.080 just as much as I would

04:57:41.780 expect you to let me ask you

04:57:43.140 a question would you feel

04:57:44.560 let's say somebody let's say

04:57:46.440 this person cheated on you

04:57:47.700 right and you had like a

04:57:49.900 really is acrimonious the right

04:57:51.780 word acrimony that means like

04:57:55.100 conflict I don't know if you

04:57:56.660 had a very acrimonious if you

04:57:59.160 had a very acrimonious

04:58:00.400 relationship there's a lot of

04:58:02.140 conflict there's infidelity and

04:58:04.460 then the divorce occurs would you

04:58:06.040 feel better just giving a random

04:58:07.840 person on the street half your

04:58:09.100 worth or that you don't know at

04:58:10.900 all or giving it to somebody who

04:58:12.560 you may very well fucking hate

04:58:14.860 isn't it the brand isn't it the

04:58:16.560 cheater that gets um that gets

04:58:19.100 and I thought it was the okay I

04:58:20.540 don't know much about like

04:58:21.540 divorce and marriage because

04:58:22.740 obviously I'm 22 years old okay

04:58:24.580 I'm just saying bogged down with

04:58:25.700 that I'm just saying like

04:58:26.780 personally even if I was the

04:58:29.340 main breadwinner whatever risk it

04:58:31.000 would be I would still prefer to

04:58:33.560 it and if I wanted to I would

04:58:35.400 still like to have you know get

04:58:37.240 married and show that

04:58:37.980 commitment that's just why why

04:58:39.500 does it show more commitment

04:58:40.980 I already listed the reasons

04:58:43.860 okay but so but if if getting

04:58:46.640 married kept people committed how

04:58:48.760 do you then explain the divorce

04:58:51.360 rate do we get do we get a rate on

04:58:53.300 how many relationships that are

04:58:54.500 boyfriend girlfriend get broken up

04:58:56.520 with like I'm sure that number is

04:58:57.740 no way higher people get married

04:58:59.060 because they want that further

04:59:00.120 commitment so that in the sense if

04:59:02.080 you get married you want to be like

04:59:03.240 okay this is my person forever I

04:59:04.920 want to be with you for the rest of

04:59:06.400 my life for the rest of your life

04:59:07.740 and boyfriend girlfriend is like

04:59:09.260 okay I think I want to be with you

04:59:10.940 for the rest of my life but I

04:59:12.160 actually don't so then you break up

04:59:13.780 exactly and that's why I do have to

04:59:15.700 move it on we have bender the

04:59:16.820 offender I haven't seen this guy in

04:59:18.340 a while holy shit I would love to

04:59:20.440 know your opinion bender the

04:59:21.380 offender okay lady in the back

04:59:24.880 right corner sounds like Johnny from

04:59:26.920 the movie the room back right

04:59:30.420 corner is that the room where it's

04:59:32.180 like just it's like a I think I know

04:59:34.500 this is it's a if I'm chat or

04:59:36.760 whatever I think it's a woman who is

04:59:38.600 like stuck in a shed because a guy

04:59:40.280 kidnapped her and she's stuck in a

04:59:41.980 shed and he like no it's like really

04:59:43.720 messed up and like he like like did

04:59:46.340 stuff and then she had a kid and then

04:59:48.220 she had a kid and then the kid is only

04:59:50.520 known the room which is the shed which

04:59:52.320 is called like the room and then he

04:59:53.820 comes in there and oh I've seen this

04:59:55.080 movie yeah bender the offender good to

04:59:57.060 see you back in the chat man I don't

04:59:58.140 know that I can't remember the last

04:59:59.500 time I saw you it's probably like two

05:00:00.860 weeks ago and I don't remember thank

05:00:02.380 you man appreciate it good to see in

05:00:03.780 the chat man let's see we have some

05:00:06.300 notes here from L last time I was on

05:00:10.060 the show I was housing a man who was a

05:00:11.500 total narcissist asshole but he was the

05:00:14.040 reason I went separate celibate

05:00:15.960 celibate for two and a half months

05:00:18.140 afterwards and so in June 6 2023 you

05:00:21.180 sent us a message so I've been

05:00:22.900 completely celibate since the last show

05:00:24.560 no sex no kissing no anything if you'd

05:00:26.960 like to have me back on to talk about

05:00:28.340 my experience I'd love to yeah so um

05:00:33.180 during the time of the last podcast I

05:00:35.960 think it would be wrong sorry huh it

05:00:37.840 said that they said I got the movie

05:00:38.880 wrong oh okay um so um during the time

05:00:43.040 of the last podcast which was like an

05:00:44.880 all-girls podcast with um Pearl and my

05:00:47.420 other roommates at the time these are my

05:00:48.960 new roommates but my old ones um I was

05:00:51.420 dating a guy um we'll just we'll just

05:00:56.600 call him by his name because I'm bold

05:00:58.040 like that Dylan and um he um he was

05:01:03.180 living with me so originally originally

05:01:06.740 he was like a friend of a friend and I

05:01:09.940 had seen him at like um events and like

05:01:13.140 my friend's house that we were both

05:01:14.860 friends with and um he was in like a

05:01:17.980 really bad relationship he ended up like

05:01:22.280 his his girlfriend at the time kicked

05:01:24.300 him out and like wanted nothing to do

05:01:26.160 with him so I naturally like felt bad

05:01:28.320 for him because he's not from LA and so

05:01:30.400 I was like just trying to help him I

05:01:32.040 told him I would give him like a

05:01:33.260 weekend to stay at my house um because

05:01:36.700 I didn't want him to be with all his

05:01:38.020 bags on the street he ended up staying

05:01:40.020 for two and a half months um and we

05:01:44.360 ended up having like somewhat of like a

05:01:46.400 like a relationship but he didn't want

05:01:48.200 to call it a relationship because that

05:01:49.640 would involve him like taking ownership

05:01:51.760 over like me and him being together

05:01:53.580 which I even though I was providing

05:01:55.320 for him giving him like food housing

05:01:57.680 all of that he still didn't want to

05:01:59.000 put a title on it

05:02:00.220 that's so distracting but um and

05:02:05.360 basically he was super abusive very

05:02:07.840 narcissistic told me that I couldn't

05:02:09.020 sleep with anyone

05:02:09.640 huh he kicked your ribs in yeah he did

05:02:12.820 do some pretty crazy things yes um

05:02:15.720 um anyways he um ended up getting

05:02:20.400 kicked out by my other roommates

05:02:21.920 because they band together to be like

05:02:23.320 this is really fucked up we hear you

05:02:24.800 like screaming and crying and we see

05:02:26.240 like you know bad marks and stuff like

05:02:28.920 that so they ended up kicking him out

05:02:31.000 and afterwards he told me that you

05:02:33.680 know I was like very easily manipulated

05:02:36.040 because it was so easy for him to

05:02:37.280 manipulate me he told me that I was

05:02:39.060 never going to be successful because I

05:02:40.640 cared too much about helping other

05:02:42.480 people be successful as in him as well

05:02:44.860 um and um those things as harsh as

05:02:49.200 they were to hear and I don't want to

05:02:51.000 give him any credit because the way

05:02:52.260 that he went about it was very wrong

05:02:53.680 obviously he's not a good person but

05:02:56.280 the way that but the things that he

05:02:57.700 said did hold a little bit of truth

05:03:00.080 behind them and I did kind of like you

05:03:02.060 know do some self-reflecting in that

05:03:03.700 moment and be like wow you know what I

05:03:05.200 kind of am a little bit easily

05:03:06.920 manipulated because I'm letting

05:03:08.220 somebody even though it's with good

05:03:10.080 intentions still take advantage of me

05:03:12.960 and that's the wrong thing to do and

05:03:15.300 then I just started doing a lot of

05:03:16.520 self-reflecting like hmm I'm kind of

05:03:17.980 letting most men women partners that

05:03:20.920 I'm having sex with kind of take

05:03:22.560 advantage of me because I'm not gaining

05:03:25.320 anything from it not even really

05:03:27.640 sexually most of the time if I'm being

05:03:29.300 honest because like let's be real so

05:03:32.080 it was just like to me to me I was

05:03:34.840 just like I think I'm going to do a

05:03:37.980 detox of just sexual partners sexual

05:03:42.080 interest and I kind of quit completely

05:03:44.320 cold turkey and I decided that I was

05:03:47.100 just going to stop and be celibate I

05:03:48.260 was celibate for two months then I got

05:03:49.840 essayed that's how I lost my celibacy

05:03:52.040 unintentionally then I ended up finding

05:03:55.600 my partner who I am currently with now

05:03:58.180 and that was the person that I

05:03:59.860 consensually gave my celibacy to and

05:04:02.180 decided to be with and I'm now with for

05:04:04.220 seven months a year if you include the

05:04:06.600 talking stage so it was kind of like a

05:04:11.120 full wraparound I went from just being

05:04:12.900 like complete homo to being in a

05:04:16.080 monogamous committed relationship which

05:04:17.380 I never expected to be in and that's the

05:04:19.080 one you're still still still in okay

05:04:21.640 name's get lost and you said

05:04:24.260 crazy story yeah let's go to twitch

05:04:28.980 really quick guys go to twitch.tv slash

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05:04:32.420 sub guys it has been over I can't even

05:04:36.500 see oh my god these bits guys it's been

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05:04:58.080 Morgan and then I think she's coming too

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05:05:06.400 it man all right we have let's see here

05:05:08.740 we have Amber crazy dating story I

05:05:12.100 dated guy who I found videos of my mom on

05:05:15.580 his phone oh yeah and other crazier

05:05:18.500 images oh yeah what okay so I was dating

05:05:24.480 this guy for about a year and a half

05:05:29.380 until I started having like the gut

05:05:31.140 feeling that he was definitely like

05:05:33.220 doing something suspicious because he

05:05:35.080 would never let me on the phone ignore

05:05:37.540 me for hours while gaming just kind of as

05:05:39.400 an asshole should have should have known

05:05:41.100 better but yeah and then eventually one

05:05:43.440 day when he was gaming I got a hold of

05:05:44.900 his phone and then I went through it and

05:05:48.280 I found like a bunch of videos like

05:05:51.180 videos of him like recording my mother

05:05:52.920 like zooming in on her like cleavage and

05:05:55.060 stuff my best friend while we're at the

05:05:57.120 swimming pool him like walking by and

05:05:58.880 like having his phone just like on the

05:06:00.580 side trying to zoom in on her and then

05:06:02.320 I found videos of him in women's

05:06:03.780 bathroom stalls trying to record their

05:06:05.420 feet underneath the stalls and then I

05:06:08.100 found I found a bunch of things yeah yeah

05:06:11.120 yeah that was probably one of the

05:06:12.940 craziest things what happened yeah you

05:06:16.820 want to say the name like how I didn't

05:06:18.000 just fucking balls to the wallet I

05:06:19.700 always want to be rapper called kid

05:06:20.880 shine

05:06:21.220 no that was coming okay yeah no I

05:06:27.480 already posted a Dropbox link and I

05:06:28.960 exposed all of it like oh three two

05:06:31.520 three years ago right after I found out

05:06:32.940 I was mortified and I was like everyone

05:06:34.900 needs to know I was like everyone needs

05:06:36.400 to it was like this oh you've already

05:06:37.660 like exposed him oh yeah yeah yeah yeah

05:06:40.320 yeah nice yeah bathroom stalls yeah

05:06:44.500 yeah that's so nice oh oh and kids too

05:06:47.280 kids too oh okay that's at the public

05:06:50.560 pool like zooming in on how long did you

05:06:53.280 date him two years almost was there

05:06:56.280 anything in his behavior that was a

05:06:57.800 little suspect the only thing that I

05:07:00.420 thought was suspect of him was that he

05:07:04.520 was a cheater I never thought that it

05:07:06.800 excelled into more of like a gross or

05:07:09.040 perversion thing yikes yeah big yikes

05:07:12.920 okay

05:07:13.660 you did you mention the random women's

05:07:17.720 feet part did you mention that you

05:07:20.540 said they're on this phone they're a

05:07:22.560 random yeah that's from the stalls like

05:07:25.020 bathroom stalls oh like in the bathroom

05:07:27.180 stalls okay you disagree with rating

05:07:32.080 women yeah we already talked about that

05:07:34.780 though yeah we did from yeah we did okay

05:07:37.960 let's see dating in LA was there something

05:07:42.280 on that you wanted to hit on dating in LA is

05:07:46.180 honestly impossible I think is it like

05:07:49.440 well be monogamous because is it too big

05:07:52.340 no because everybody knows everybody and

05:07:54.640 everybody fucks everybody like it's like

05:07:56.920 especially like the group that like we're

05:07:58.460 in and stuff like everyone it's kind of like

05:08:00.240 the same most of it yeah but not I don't

05:08:02.840 know I would probably like move to the

05:08:04.320 like the SGV what's that if you know you

05:08:08.360 know oh okay I guess I don't know good

05:08:10.740 talk all right talk Mads yeah the Harry

05:08:16.540 Styles impersonator yeah I I went out with

05:08:19.900 this guy and he was a Harry Styles

05:08:21.700 impersonator and he used that to make

05:08:24.160 content on OF and I had no idea he also

05:08:28.980 lived in Canada so I never met him

05:08:31.660 before I don't know if he was even real

05:08:34.560 and he had been talking to my other

05:08:38.560 friend in Denver and he scammed her out

05:08:40.880 of $3,000 oh whoa yeah damn how I don't

05:08:46.680 know I guess how do you have $3,000 to

05:08:48.860 someone you don't know I don't know but

05:08:50.900 yeah that was crazy that's my crazy

05:08:52.540 little dating story I really know what

05:08:55.860 what else what else did he get Phil that

05:08:58.160 I just watched a bag of blow bag that

05:09:00.840 bag or bags multiple bags yeah and I

05:09:06.280 guess um like big ones he had come to

05:09:09.200 Denver to see her I never saw him in

05:09:11.740 person but he like slept outside her

05:09:13.400 apartment on a bench yeah all right

05:09:15.860 that's cool you said body count doesn't

05:09:17.820 matter but no we debate that no I think

05:09:21.480 we talked about I just said I don't

05:09:22.780 give a fuck about it don't give a fuck

05:09:26.160 so would you fuck a guy who just

05:09:27.300 fucked like 50 chicks in the past 24

05:09:29.800 hours I don't I so she thinks it's

05:09:34.400 possible like some mid average dude

05:09:36.440 dang 50 chicks I didn't say 50 I said

05:09:39.440 three oh you you said three you did not

05:09:43.200 say 50 um I mean earlier I said I'm a

05:09:46.160 one vibe person and I just want to share

05:09:48.180 that um mutual respect with someone else

05:09:51.380 yeah so but like you wouldn't disqualify

05:09:54.240 a guy for like high body count then no

05:09:56.320 of course not but like what if every day

05:09:58.320 before he met you he was having sex with

05:10:00.120 a new girl so I've been going through

05:10:02.320 something I don't know how do you get

05:10:03.760 that guy in a relationship if if you're

05:10:05.760 you know it would be hard to yeah but

05:10:09.480 of course I don't judge by someone's

05:10:11.000 past you said biggest icks in a

05:10:12.420 relationship we'll go we'll open this

05:10:14.000 to the whole panel biggest icks yeah I

05:10:16.300 wanted to we'll start with you and

05:10:18.040 then we'll start with Morgan and then

05:10:19.300 go but wait a second did you say what

05:10:21.640 your body count was I said less than

05:10:23.560 five oh less than five yeah only people

05:10:26.500 I've really like been involved with at

05:10:29.220 the time like a relationship or stop the

05:10:31.680 cap no Nick Nick come on bruh it's

05:10:37.060 okay it's okay yeah it's okay Nick she

05:10:39.360 forgives you for pressing the button that

05:10:40.980 made that noise just come through it was

05:10:42.720 definitely not Nick it was definitely

05:10:44.800 Nick yeah okay wait was Nick here when

05:10:49.660 you were on yeah I think I got like

05:10:52.780 scared of a question that somebody asked

05:10:54.380 on there so I just threw Nick under the

05:10:55.940 bus and like said I would date him or

05:10:57.700 something because I was just nervous to

05:10:59.020 answer the the question that came through

05:11:01.480 yeah you were kind of like crushing on

05:11:03.140 Nick a little bit I literally just

05:11:04.640 needed an out so I used Nick I'm sorry

05:11:07.500 for using you Nick law paladins for

05:11:09.700 girl in pink I've had sex with about

05:11:12.080 450 women want to be playing a body

05:11:16.400 count doesn't matter right well I don't

05:11:18.700 think you'd actually have a chance with

05:11:19.940 me so there you go shut it down real

05:11:23.220 fast boom roasted sorry lol paladins oh

05:11:27.540 wait hold on there's also wait I got a

05:11:29.120 yeah good good one Morgan press hold on

05:11:32.940 I'm gonna pull this one up oh guys he's

05:11:34.860 he's lol paladins you were providing for

05:11:37.340 him why didn't you marry him you could

05:11:38.900 have you could have paid him alimony for

05:11:40.860 years

05:11:41.520 lol paladins has been assigned to sound so

05:11:48.680 I give him a sound

05:11:49.680 I don't know who that's directed to

05:11:54.920 though

05:11:55.220 it was when L was talking about that guy

05:11:57.220 yeah that was a long time ago

05:11:58.780 we don't like you Dylan by the way

05:12:00.080 for girl in pink oh he was saying

05:12:04.240 want to be 451 that's that was was

05:12:09.020 blurred out he slept with 450 want to be

05:12:11.720 451 hell no okay cool okay good good to

05:12:18.860 know biggest dicks once you start I went

05:12:23.480 out with this guy and he played video

05:12:24.660 games like 15 hours a day that was the

05:12:27.420 biggest dick that's all 15 hours a day

05:12:29.420 what game Elden Ring which I love Elden

05:12:32.640 ring okay I have like Lord of the Rings

05:12:34.120 tattoos like I can't hate too much but

05:12:36.400 yeah he was like locked in all the time

05:12:38.960 okay that's my biggest thing didn't have

05:12:41.960 a life outside of video games no word

05:12:44.680 Morgan biggest ick biggest ick in a

05:12:49.600 relationship major like mama's boys and

05:12:53.960 that might sound bad

05:12:54.840 mama's boys yeah okay no but like to like a

05:12:59.880 bad extent yeah you can like like love

05:13:02.280 your mom but like yeah she makes it a

05:13:07.200 bad extent Sheila well it's like when you

05:13:09.140 expect your significant other to be your

05:13:11.420 mother no is it short for Melissa yes is

05:13:15.560 is it okay just checking uh biggest ick

05:13:18.820 biggest ick that's really hard because I

05:13:28.000 probably wouldn't date them like are you

05:13:29.520 talking about like in a relationship no

05:13:32.640 just in general yeah it could just be in

05:13:34.540 general yeah you don't have to just like

05:13:36.780 if a guy or does something it gives you

05:13:38.880 the ick yeah biggest the biggest ick just

05:13:43.380 like feminine men feminine men oh really

05:13:47.560 feminine men yeah okay can you sing the

05:13:51.500 Australian national anthem Andrew asked

05:13:54.000 Andrew sent me a text and he's like I

05:13:56.360 might believe Australia is a real country

05:13:58.020 if she sings the national anthem go ahead

05:14:00.460 no you don't know do you not know it I do

05:14:04.420 also if I sing it with you will you do

05:14:06.740 it no you know it she doesn't know it

05:14:09.660 then you know they don't know it Brian

05:14:11.560 because it doesn't exist yeah exactly

05:14:14.460 it's all giant coast she knows a New

05:14:18.260 Zealand national anthem I bet New

05:14:20.760 Zealand

05:14:21.140 God save New Zealand

05:14:34.140 should we sing the Australian you ready

05:14:41.760 I'll do it you're doing it you're doing

05:14:43.260 with me I'm just gonna start you have to

05:14:44.860 sing with me okay Australians I'm gonna

05:14:48.400 start slow so you can ease into it ready

05:14:50.900 Australians all let oh voice crap

05:14:55.140 one more time one more chance okay ready

05:15:01.240 Australians all let us rejoice

05:15:05.900 bro you can't just leave me hangin do it

05:15:08.860 with me you sounded wonderful I'm

05:15:10.940 enjoying it

05:15:11.580 you're doing a great job

05:15:12.580 told you told you Brian none of them

05:15:16.100 know it none of them know it Brian

05:15:17.560 it's not a real country it's not a real

05:15:18.860 country

05:15:19.060 hey Brian knows it he knows it I just

05:15:22.700 made it up

05:15:23.200 yeah that's what I thought yeah you

05:15:27.240 just freestyled it actually we just we

05:15:29.180 should just not move on until she

05:15:30.760 sings it

05:15:31.360 we'll be here all night

05:15:33.920 what if she's got a beautiful this

05:15:39.740 could be you might listen you're you're

05:15:41.540 two hours away you're two hours away

05:15:43.740 from Los Angeles you could be

05:15:45.540 discovered as the next new hot

05:15:48.380 Australian singer like

05:15:50.920 lol paladins donated $200 what's wrong

05:15:56.800 with Elden Ring she was already 449 and

05:16:00.920 she's just salty about the game being

05:16:03.200 more important than her I guess 451 is

05:16:06.640 censored ironically because of the book

05:16:09.080 yeah thank you lol paladins what was wrong

05:16:16.080 with Elden Ring I said no hate to it I

05:16:18.340 have literally Lord of the Rings

05:16:19.420 tattoos like I've I love your favorite

05:16:21.520 Lord of the Rings character

05:16:22.760 Legolas who Legolas like the Peter

05:16:29.080 Jackson Legolas or like some other

05:16:30.580 Legolas like from the movie from the

05:16:34.240 movie from Lord of the Rings what was

05:16:35.840 the actor's name it was Orlando Bloom

05:16:37.460 Orlando Bloom yes okay he's awesome

05:16:39.940 not singing it we're not gonna do a

05:16:42.660 duet okay all right I'm gonna make you

05:16:45.640 sing it after the show though off camera

05:16:47.060 all right biggest dick weak men weak men

05:16:51.680 like physically weak or weak

05:16:53.760 constitution of mind a weak man that

05:16:57.460 cannot be a leader of his of his family

05:17:00.440 and his relationship okay that's fair

05:17:04.560 what about you I agree with her and I

05:17:08.040 agree and I agree with you I just think

05:17:09.740 just men that like I'm not confident

05:17:12.460 in themselves men that are like very

05:17:14.060 like weak like I guess you could say

05:17:15.620 like pick me men I guess you could say

05:17:17.800 like me men oh like I'm not I'm not

05:17:19.900 like that handsome I'm not that good

05:17:21.420 like no have confidence in yourself

05:17:23.040 lead with confidence if that makes

05:17:25.680 sense did that came off correct yeah I

05:17:28.760 will I will allow your answer I

05:17:31.440 appreciate that thank you for asking

05:17:33.000 for my approval yeah of course okay what

05:17:36.560 about you Al biggest ick like a physical

05:17:39.740 ick that just grosses me out whenever I

05:17:41.680 look at a man's nails and they've got a

05:17:43.020 bunch of dirt underneath them that's

05:17:44.380 disgusting to me and usually it's you

05:17:45.960 you never understand how money many men

05:17:48.180 do not like clip their nails and clean

05:17:49.760 I just check it like

05:17:50.860 no but like if it's like a if it's like

05:17:54.560 a special on the day if you check it

05:17:57.300 like this or like if you check it like

05:17:58.780 that this is is this I thought this was

05:18:01.700 gay I thought this was gay I'm pretty

05:18:03.980 sure this was the gay one I'm pretty

05:18:05.100 sure there's no gay way to check your

05:18:06.800 nails no there's definitely okay not

05:18:09.300 gay we'll say feminine way I guess is

05:18:11.600 about I don't know I feel like I look

05:18:12.880 at my nails both ways whenever I look

05:18:14.640 at them but like this is how you look

05:18:16.620 underneath your nail Andrew show us your

05:18:19.160 nails show us nice and close zoom in on

05:18:23.040 Andrews only if I get the Australian

05:18:25.480 national anthem he will also reveal his

05:18:31.140 body count and then like I don't want to

05:18:33.340 know either of those things I would love

05:18:35.820 to know like she's not here I'm sorry

05:18:39.640 no go for it and then I think like if

05:18:41.540 we're talking like an actual like it

05:18:43.820 more less superficial than that I would

05:18:46.780 say somebody with poor communication like

05:18:50.920 I think that the way that you argue with

05:18:52.880 your partner or someone that you're

05:18:54.380 seeing says a lot about who they are in

05:18:56.880 the relationship that you'll have

05:18:57.780 together so if you can't have like a

05:18:59.700 mature level-headed conversation where

05:19:02.420 you're just speaking rather than

05:19:03.680 yelling I think that's a really big ick

05:19:06.000 if a guy can't just have like that easy

05:19:08.020 gentle communication with me word okay

05:19:12.180 Alex what about you biggest ick well to

05:19:16.000 me it's really when they're just all talk

05:19:20.000 and just like pretenses and like promises

05:19:23.160 but no follow-through whatsoever on any

05:19:26.440 level all words no actions yeah like all

05:19:28.820 words but like not a single action yeah

05:19:31.540 yeah okay you answered right what about

05:19:35.820 you biggest ick you're about a mile away

05:19:39.680 from the microphone just let me know

05:19:41.020 um biggest ick for me would probably be

05:19:45.000 like super macho-y bravada type guys

05:19:49.740 that's an ick for me what do you mean can

05:19:53.060 you explain just macho like I don't know

05:19:55.860 like johnny bravo masculine yeah I know I

05:19:58.860 I personally I know you said no don't

05:20:00.680 like it but I love feminine boys I agree

05:20:02.700 I love a feminine boy but as long as I

05:20:04.800 can also be allowed to tap into my

05:20:06.760 feminine energy do you think that works

05:20:09.600 though it could it does it very well could

05:20:12.140 I've dated nothing but feminine guys so

05:20:14.200 who's gonna take the masculine role does

05:20:17.360 there have to be one yeah exactly you could

05:20:19.780 just be nurturers towards each other it

05:20:21.360 doesn't have to be like that someone has

05:20:23.280 to lead so someone has to lead someone's

05:20:26.640 got to lead that's why I said feminine

05:20:28.100 you know there's a balance there has to be a

05:20:30.040 balance there's a balance so you're gonna

05:20:32.400 you're both gonna do both parts yeah there's a

05:20:35.720 balance of course what's the point oh go

05:20:39.400 ahead you got a question

05:20:40.280 what about you Brian biggest dick what's the

05:20:51.040 biggest dick Brian oh my gosh uh before I

05:20:55.720 give my biggest dick I'm just curious for

05:20:57.240 the two girls here who like feminine

05:20:59.280 boys have you all pegged a dude before

05:21:02.460 no no I've not just be honest no you don't

05:21:06.280 have to lie to me no you don't need to

05:21:08.280 don't do that don't lie to me I can see

05:21:11.040 it in your eyes no are you being honest

05:21:14.400 yes I have you're looking me down

05:21:16.640 thank you for volunteering that information

05:21:20.800 I appreciate that w w her for just

05:21:25.260 coming clean they were like how many men

05:21:29.940 have you pegged only one but I got asked

05:21:34.220 three times but asked you yeah yeah yeah and

05:21:38.000 I got asked by three different men you

05:21:40.920 oh damn so you turned down you're selective

05:21:43.100 with who you peg oh yeah 100% you turned

05:21:45.640 down two of the three yeah only one of them

05:21:49.060 deserved you to oh yeah because I do not

05:21:51.940 I'm not the biggest fan of that kind of

05:21:54.640 role I'm more of a submissive you have to

05:21:56.640 really care about the guy to be willing to

05:21:58.200 peg him oh yeah he has to be special to you

05:22:00.960 oh yeah for you to very much so things to

05:22:04.140 his anus very very special to have a very

05:22:10.700 good dildo oh why'd you got to take it

05:22:15.100 there well you know they started the

05:22:17.200 sentence I don't know you should I don't

05:22:19.680 think that's where he was going with that

05:22:20.960 sentence I can't Russia with love is that

05:22:24.020 is that is that is that how that works

05:22:26.040 from Russia with love oh yeah a lot of

05:22:28.540 love so much in Soviet Russia in Soviet

05:22:32.340 Russia there's in Soviet Russia a woman

05:22:35.380 fucks you wow okay oh my biggest x hmm

05:22:41.480 my biggest x she uh god I don't know man

05:22:48.240 I'm trying to think of something see it's

05:22:50.420 hard on the spot biggest ick uh quarrelsome

05:22:57.120 if she's quarrelsome ah what does that

05:23:01.000 mean argues argumentative someone not

05:23:04.700 easygoing uh just more like picks a fight

05:23:08.100 out of everything just yeah like I would

05:23:11.120 say that's a good way to frame it

05:23:12.120 quarrelsome argumentative someone's fine

05:23:15.300 just just manifests arguments out of the

05:23:19.040 ether over nothing it's just annoying no

05:23:23.120 one likes that how do you live like that

05:23:24.780 I dated a girl once and she got mad that

05:23:28.540 I dated a girl before I even knew who

05:23:30.540 she was she was like I'm upset that you

05:23:33.240 dated her I'm like I didn't even know you

05:23:35.020 then and she's like I'm just she didn't

05:23:37.140 even know the chick she was just like how

05:23:39.100 could you have how could you have cheated

05:23:42.440 on me before I fucking met you so was

05:23:45.480 fucking rude person that if she had a dream

05:23:49.000 about you cheating I should get I've had

05:23:51.220 multiple girls dream about me cheating

05:23:53.200 and then they blame me for the cheating

05:23:58.100 on them in the dream what do you do with

05:24:00.000 that situation do you apologize do you just

05:24:03.160 be like that wasn't like that's you

05:24:04.760 what do you apparently like what do I do

05:24:09.000 yeah what should a guy do what did you

05:24:11.120 like in general both I'm just like that's

05:24:14.080 I don't know I understand I don't know

05:24:16.560 about y'all but it's like what I'm asking

05:24:20.380 her if she put my cup back is this woman

05:24:22.000 yes okay what do I do I mean so if it's

05:24:26.460 like bogus I just walk away I'm like oh

05:24:30.760 oh grabs the rugby ball got a blast I'm

05:24:35.380 dipping so you just ghost them huh so

05:24:39.200 you just ghost them like you just well

05:24:40.900 I guess it depends on the context like

05:24:43.100 I just I I might politely tell her to

05:24:47.800 shut up I'm kidding politely shut I just

05:24:51.940 be like oh yeah well you cheated on me in

05:24:57.420 my dream last night so you turned the

05:25:00.420 table so now what now what and it was a

05:25:05.300 threesome and it was a bukkake so who's

05:25:09.140 really the the worst offender here oh 100%

05:25:13.360 yes so I just flip it on her perfect I'm

05:25:16.720 just like yeah I don't think that's what

05:25:21.440 I actually did though in the situation I

05:25:23.080 don't know I was just like as a drink I

05:25:25.240 was like oh cool I like fucked up a shark

05:25:28.160 in my dream yesterday I don't know

05:25:30.860 what does that mean like literally I was

05:25:35.380 in the ocean and I thought a shark like

05:25:38.240 I fucked him up so you didn't go on the

05:25:40.240 boat with the two men I didn't I didn't

05:25:44.160 need rescuing I just need it fucking not

05:25:46.860 the shit I slapped sure you have a

05:25:48.720 recording oh okay so you didn't fuck a

05:25:51.540 shark you fucked it up yeah that's what I

05:25:53.700 said okay I completely misheard it I'm so

05:25:56.460 sorry no that was a girl from last week

05:25:58.440 who fucked who was with dolphins oh yeah

05:26:01.320 no literally we had a girl I saw the

05:26:04.100 title I thought it was I don't think she

05:26:06.700 I think she has romantic feelings towards

05:26:08.940 dolphins but I don't think she's had

05:26:11.400 carnal knowledge of a dolphin but we did

05:26:13.940 have a dolphin communicator on the show was

05:26:17.320 it Tuesday last week Morgan yeah yeah

05:26:20.540 yeah Morgan knows she could talk well

05:26:22.160 they're really sexual she could talk to

05:26:23.620 all animals what the fuck okay anyways

05:26:25.780 moving on biggest dick the actual

05:26:27.300 dolphins biggest dick um damn didn't you

05:26:33.980 say people picking arguments for like the

05:26:35.780 reason wasn't that area oh quarrelsome

05:26:38.480 wait no yeah that's what you said yeah I

05:26:41.940 wasn't even I don't know if that's my

05:26:42.940 biggest ick though well I didn't say my

05:26:45.400 biggest it's just like an ick in general yeah

05:26:47.220 like one of the top three hmm yeah

05:26:50.740 because there would be several you're

05:26:52.220 smacking you hate that oh well that's not

05:26:55.360 I think anyone can do that not just a

05:26:57.060 partner I just hate the sound of

05:26:58.280 chewing or any repetitive noise to be

05:27:00.100 honest I'm like a chewing going to you

05:27:03.120 Alex use you in your pre-show notes you

05:27:06.020 said you didn't hang on hang on you

05:27:07.840 didn't actually answer Brian the biggest

05:27:10.900 ick question yeah the course kind of

05:27:16.100 avoided the question there well the

05:27:18.060 course look quarrelsome women oh okay

05:27:20.780 that's the biggest dick yeah like an

05:27:22.660 argument in a woman over that just wants

05:27:24.780 to argue for no reason Andrew your

05:27:26.340 biggest dick oh yeah oh man I have a

05:27:30.240 list a mile long you want to hear them

05:27:31.720 all okay let's start with women who say

05:27:34.100 woman instead of women because they're

05:27:37.260 stupid that's one of my biggest dicks

05:27:39.500 let's move over to when women bother

05:27:41.800 you when you're in the middle of doing

05:27:43.020 something that's actually important with

05:27:44.540 a bunch of endless prattle about personal

05:27:46.100 bullshit that I don't care about that

05:27:47.540 would be too let's move over from there

05:27:50.180 to women who have vocal fries and say

05:27:52.660 like every other word the vocal fry

05:27:55.480 along with like like like and well like

05:27:59.780 makes me want to grab the closest dagger

05:28:03.300 and begin to gouge myself in the face with

05:28:05.920 it that's what I consider icks but I have

05:28:11.220 so many would you like me to keep going

05:28:12.920 or I think that's one of the reasons I

05:28:15.000 can't watch reality TV sometimes I just

05:28:17.000 say oh yeah just say like like like like

05:28:18.920 like over and over again like what's the

05:28:21.600 word and then they go off on a completely

05:28:23.440 different tangent and you're just like why

05:28:25.360 I can maybe I'll add one if they talk

05:28:30.000 poorly about people not in their presence

05:28:32.540 that's Nick oh 100 that's bad that I

05:28:35.800 don't like that in anybody yeah so that's

05:28:38.840 just bad morals yeah that's just about

05:28:40.920 a bad character uh going to Alex you said

05:28:43.740 that why do the host wait why would these

05:28:46.400 two girls didn't both of you just name

05:28:49.000 exes that she didn't like because and

05:28:52.220 they're not here to defend themselves who

05:28:54.300 me oh he doesn't yeah no no we both did

05:28:57.540 yeah 100% but they yeah are you gonna

05:29:00.780 defend a person that was taking pictures

05:29:02.880 of someone that's I'm not gonna say well

05:29:04.420 I don't know first of all I'm not just

05:29:06.260 gonna take people's I'm not gonna just

05:29:08.040 take people's words for anything I'm not

05:29:09.440 familiar with the situation but that was

05:29:11.320 a really big way they asked for our

05:29:12.900 craziest dating experience but that was a

05:29:14.580 way for you to obfuscate away from the

05:29:16.180 fact that Brian said when people are

05:29:17.900 running other people down when they're

05:29:18.840 not present you're like yeah yeah I don't

05:29:21.040 like and then you just did it right

05:29:22.560 there he asked us for our craziest

05:29:24.980 dating story that's our craziest dating

05:29:26.780 story it's a question that we were

05:29:29.860 asked on the show I mean you just you

05:29:31.580 did engage in that I'm just pointing

05:29:32.960 that out that's all I'm saying and when

05:29:34.300 I and if we don't engage in it then we

05:29:36.120 get asked to engage more and more and

05:29:38.500 more so of course we're gonna he asked

05:29:40.640 for our experiences well I mean did he

05:29:42.220 did the experience require you to name

05:29:44.360 the person no but no but you want to

05:29:49.340 make damn sure that you named that

05:29:51.740 person down when that person couldn't

05:29:53.540 defend themselves yeah but you could

05:29:57.120 have you could have had like an

05:29:58.300 obscure you could have told the

05:29:59.360 craziest dating story kept him totally

05:30:00.820 anonymous but instead chose to name

05:30:02.740 him so that you could run him down

05:30:04.440 while he wasn't here to defend

05:30:05.600 himself on a large platform and the

05:30:07.400 way he would defend himself is by

05:30:08.920 punching me in the ribs so literally

05:30:10.600 in jail right now isn't he he can't

05:30:11.720 yeah well I'm just I'm pointing I'm

05:30:15.100 just pointing it out that's a word

05:30:16.500 don't ask questions about my dating

05:30:18.360 life if you don't want me to explain

05:30:19.720 the answers to the questions you know

05:30:21.060 what I'm saying like Brian wasn't mad

05:30:22.440 about it word word well I'm not mad

05:30:25.380 about anything I'm just explaining to

05:30:27.120 you and expressing to you that at the

05:30:29.180 same time that you say hey yeah that's

05:30:31.120 that's bad when people do this you

05:30:32.880 just engaged in it you know a few

05:30:34.240 minutes ago I just nodded my head

05:30:36.100 dare you yeah how dare you my bad for

05:30:39.040 answering a question that was asked of

05:30:40.980 me I am so yeah nobody asked you to dox him

05:30:43.580 leave it nobody asked you to dox him and

05:30:45.300 then drop the dox and then go after

05:30:47.000 nobody said a full government I said the

05:30:49.220 most Shane and Dylan are the most

05:30:51.320 fucking generic ass names like no no

05:30:55.140 they're talking dropping rapper names is a

05:30:57.640 generic name really what he'll know who he

05:31:00.640 is oh there's just tons of what was it

05:31:03.260 baby face rabbit yeah there's just tons

05:31:05.180 and oodles and boodles like what are you

05:31:06.660 talking about like who the fuck cares I

05:31:09.160 didn't care about your opinion

05:31:10.460 rude oh god well that got me oh I don't

05:31:14.560 care about your opinion I don't oh you

05:31:16.480 got me that was brutal brutal moving

05:31:19.820 things on Alex you want it you something

05:31:22.920 about dating around because there's this

05:31:24.780 we won't get into the details but you

05:31:26.460 said moral of the story that's why it's

05:31:28.180 important to understand your needs and

05:31:29.680 priorities and not just listen to

05:31:31.380 others but observe them and overall date

05:31:33.520 around to understand how humans work and

05:31:36.260 not just assume a status of a

05:31:37.500 relationship and actually date around oh

05:31:40.580 yeah that the last part was a typo I was

05:31:44.140 really tired I haven't slept in a while

05:31:46.220 I work nights what what was the type of

05:31:49.200 the the last part of the date around I

05:31:52.640 just meant to type it in once but you

05:31:54.900 you wrote date around twice yeah which

05:31:57.620 was that but so you're in favor of

05:31:59.280 dating around well yes I um as I've

05:32:03.300 mentioned on the last on on the last time I

05:32:06.100 was here like I don't think that people

05:32:07.760 should be monogamous from the very

05:32:09.620 beginning like it should be established

05:32:11.220 and how soon should it become monogamous

05:32:13.980 or just never it depends on the people

05:32:16.800 because the thing is is that with dating

05:32:18.780 around you can actually find the people

05:32:21.840 that you truly connect with and you can

05:32:26.960 meet a bigger variety of people and learn

05:32:30.520 what you accept from them but but oh you

05:32:35.700 got more or but you got you got more I

05:32:38.820 mean I do have more but what well couldn't

05:32:42.560 you still I mean you could date one person

05:32:44.960 at a time and if it works then you're in a

05:32:47.520 relationship if it doesn't you can just go

05:32:49.680 date somebody else so why do you need to

05:32:51.620 date five people at the same time sleep with

05:32:53.900 three people at the same time you don't need

05:32:55.440 to you don't need to but you're you're okay

05:32:57.360 your prescription is date around so but

05:32:59.860 like you can go to dates and not sleep with

05:33:03.720 anybody not be intimate with anybody it's

05:33:06.700 about getting to know the intimate parts

05:33:09.100 of the human being and the soul that the

05:33:12.960 person is and who they are and how that's

05:33:17.160 gives me wait what do they do what on the

05:33:19.760 first date I want on the first date I want

05:33:22.100 to just feel their soul well yes because I

05:33:26.840 want to understand who they are as a soul

05:33:29.280 and if we actually connect on you're like

05:33:34.480 you have simultaneous romantic and sexual

05:33:37.060 interest in like five other people there's

05:33:39.900 gonna be a deep soul connection when you're

05:33:41.520 like actually yes by another dude because

05:33:43.980 you don't think about being fucked by

05:33:45.940 another dude you're being present in the

05:33:47.860 moment with whoever with whomever you're

05:33:49.940 with and I'm not saying that everyone

05:33:52.300 should be dating around like five people

05:33:54.540 at a time that's what worked for me and

05:33:56.880 that's how I'm in a wonderful monogamous

05:33:59.760 relationship you have not gotten into that

05:34:01.760 relationship had you not been dating around

05:34:03.620 no I actually would not have because I

05:34:06.040 would not have learned what I want from

05:34:09.680 the partner from the the person that I'm

05:34:12.680 dating how many people do you need a date

05:34:14.280 to know what is good well considering that I

05:34:18.320 literally didn't think that I could feel

05:34:20.900 love until I was 20 and I never felt

05:34:24.000 happiness until I was 18 physically didn't

05:34:27.620 you say you hung out with bears when in

05:34:29.240 your youth you weren't happy then I wasn't

05:34:31.980 actually happy I thought you loved bears I

05:34:34.180 thought bears were your favorite animal and

05:34:35.860 you like cuddled with them and yeah it was

05:34:38.380 comforting but because again you weren't you

05:34:42.320 didn't feel happiness in that moment when

05:34:44.520 you were present with the bear because I

05:34:46.820 was never present the thing is is that I've

05:34:49.120 lived my entire childhood in pain so pain

05:34:51.760 was always present so if you want to go

05:34:55.160 there you know there's the feelings are

05:34:57.540 very complicated things all right so but

05:35:00.320 your prescriptive advice is to date around

05:35:02.580 I do think that people should not just

05:35:05.900 especially during the first like couple of

05:35:09.260 dates should not just go exclusively

05:35:11.620 monogamous with the one person because

05:35:14.160 that way they can compare and contrast what

05:35:16.440 they accept for themselves I have to give a

05:35:18.880 counter prescription to two men here men if

05:35:22.740 after the first date if she wants a second

05:35:25.400 date with you all the other men have to be a

05:35:29.120 rap point-blank period why if you want a

05:35:32.560 second date with me the other dudes have

05:35:34.920 to be a rap because I'm gonna extend to you

05:35:36.940 the same exact thing and I think that gives

05:35:39.360 the it gives it the highest likelihood of

05:35:41.940 succeeding it gives the relationship the

05:35:44.380 highest likelihood of succeeding but then

05:35:47.960 what if you date let's say for a month and

05:35:51.720 then you realize oh this is actually not the

05:35:54.500 person who I thought I met on that first date

05:35:58.940 but that's a waste of time wouldn't it be a waste of time if I was also like how is it a waste of time well because you are putting all of your energy into that one other person I'm putting I'm putting I'm putting like 5% of my energy into her and then 95% of my energy into the other things going on in my life that are not other women loving energy so it's like I ain't loving a woman in the first month what okay the caring the

05:36:28.920 passion the passion the attention for example because the thing that I've noticed specifically

05:36:33.340 she gets my minimum attention okay okay we'll see that's that's your problem because in all the polyamorous

05:36:40.840 relationships that I have been and we have gotten really close really fast I've gotten to know them

05:36:47.920 very fast who they are yeah but none of them worked out right we're actually all really good friends it

05:36:55.680 didn't work yeah so none of the relationships worked out well okay the thing is is that I don't

05:37:01.480 want long-term relationships and the fact that I am in one right now is very surprising to me I'm still

05:37:08.640 shocked you don't want long-term relationships but you're in one right now did I hear that right in the

05:37:15.140 monogamous relationship by the way you're in a long-term monogamous relationship that you don't want did I hear that

05:37:21.420 right no I said I didn't want that at the time I didn't know that I could possibly feel that way

05:37:29.120 and I didn't realize what you know like if you meet that one person and it clicks you know and sometimes

05:37:38.440 it doesn't but then at the same time he's fucking dying like it's so it's like it's not gonna last

05:37:44.400 oh that's right you told us how he's uh are you in his will do you get everything no I don't get

05:37:53.200 everything because it's not about the will or what comes after it's about being present in the moment

05:37:59.640 I don't know I have no idea wouldn't that be a waste you don't know no because it's about being present

05:38:04.760 I am enjoying my that was actually a very good point Morgan made knowing full well is he's he has a terminal

05:38:10.740 illness yes and we are helping each other with our health he is mentoring me with my businesses he is

05:38:19.140 helping me move forward as a person as a human being nobody told me about this let me fix that

05:38:25.420 I've got a little fluff a little alfalfa damn bro what the so get the scissors um get the scissors

05:38:33.820 maddie um so it's like prior to prior to meeting him I was working two three jobs at a time I was

05:38:40.240 seeing multiple people I always try to keep myself busy and pushing myself and then I realized I have

05:38:45.680 more in common with a man who's dying than with most doesn't that defeat your argument about like the

05:38:52.980 whole wasting your time though no because if I haven't gone through everything all the relationships

05:38:58.680 that I have been and have met all the people that I have met I would not have accepted this as a

05:39:07.380 reality at all what's your how much older is this guy than you by the way he's twice my age he's twice

05:39:14.620 your age and he's dying um yes what what and you and you were working I just want to make sure I can

05:39:20.720 clarify I'll get you in just a second you were working multiple jobs before you met him and now you're

05:39:25.720 not well right now I am working um like a couple of nights a week at a in hospitality and then I'm

05:39:34.580 also growing my art um as an artist and residence at his house because I've been living there um and

05:39:42.900 so he has money right not really um it's because it's not about the money like he doesn't give me money

05:39:51.740 like if I ask for something you know he might get it for me but it's like I don't it's not about the

05:39:57.720 money I don't care about the money everything that I earn like I can buy whatever I want and I'm I'm an

05:40:05.720 artist you can buy whatever you want with your couple of nights a week job no I'm I'm an artist and

05:40:10.540 I'm a creative consultant as well so he has helped me start um my brand my um my company did he happen to

05:40:19.240 pay for that stuff no he didn't pay for any of that he bought me a few canvases oh okay so he

05:40:28.100 didn't uh well and I do live with him but I also actually pay for my own rent in in Ventura so I

05:40:35.100 actually do have a place that I can stay at you know like I'm just staying there because I want to

05:40:42.880 and that's the whole thing at this particular moment I want to be with him this entire time over

05:40:48.740 the past year this place in Ventura is this a house or an apartment or a small studio that you

05:40:56.040 rent for your art or what is this place in Ventura um I'm just renting a room from a family friend and

05:41:01.300 it has everything that I the majority of stuff I have and my guess is is uh this gentleman's house

05:41:08.560 is much nicer than that place in Ventura oh yeah by far it actually overlooks um it's it's very nature

05:41:15.380 based which is which brings both of us a lot of peace and that's what it's all about about being

05:41:22.140 in our health being at peace and just accepting what it is and trying to move forward and try to be

05:41:31.500 happy and support each other consult each other and it just it is what it is so again oh I mean it

05:41:40.660 doesn't it doesn't sound I mean just I want you to hear it from my end okay I'm with a man who's

05:41:47.880 twice my age with a much nicer house than mine that I live with who saved me from working multiple jobs

05:41:54.800 but really what I care about is his health and that's really what it is yes it is true that I

05:42:01.180 know he's going to die soon uh but it's not about the money and I'm sure that if I'm included in the will

05:42:07.640 uh which will be a big surprise to me because it's just not about the money um you know I I just I

05:42:14.100 couldn't comment on whether I will be or not but let me just ask you this one last clarifying question

05:42:19.420 if you had to guess just if you had to guess right now I have no idea I want I'm looking for an actual

05:42:26.820 guess here are you going to be in the will so I am welcome to stay with his sister who is going to be

05:42:34.020 alive and um she is disabled and also his oldest girlfriend who is his successor trustee um who

05:42:42.540 is also going to be overlooking over her health I'm welcome to stay with them in the house I have a

05:42:48.180 place there and all three of them have said it that wasn't yeah are you but but my question he does not

05:42:53.960 have a will he has a trust if you had to guess if you had to guess are you going to be in the will

05:42:59.760 again I am a part I will be written into that I can stay in the house oh forever

05:43:09.160 I'm not going to say it any place forever so like if they were to sell the house would you get a piece

05:43:16.220 so they actually cannot sell the house um per the trust laws or rules that's wow that's mighty

05:43:25.320 convenient uh so you get this uh really really nice place that nobody can get a room I get a room I

05:43:32.840 don't get a whole place you do get the whole place if you live there you rent a room you still

05:43:36.860 get to use the bathroom the kitchen the laundry the living room but I don't get my own place it's

05:43:44.020 no you don't get your own place yeah you own but you do get to like yeah I get to live there yeah

05:43:48.980 are your plans like after he like dies is to live there I know you said you're welcome to but are those

05:43:54.980 your plans for a while until I figure out where else I would want to go because don't you have your

05:44:01.100 own place I really really haven't her you what why really really haven't her or you just like the

05:44:08.800 house that he has oh I absolutely love the house that he has it again overlooks the

05:44:13.740 most beautiful view in Santa Barbara why are you paying for the room in Ventura

05:44:17.860 because I have to store my stuff somewhere get a storage unit oh I don't want okay well what I'm

05:44:25.660 paying for the room is actually less than a storage unit I paid oh my god who the hell

05:44:32.460 cash I agree I agree it does not matter wait so um but in any case your thing is don't date around

05:44:42.120 I have to disagree I think uh I know you disagree I disagree I and not just from like the male

05:44:50.040 perspective of like I would advise men to kind of uh try to just do one at a time but also also

05:44:57.780 you have to disqualify women who don't do that who don't date just one person at a time yeah so

05:45:05.880 first date oh you want a second date it has to be a wrap with other dudes yes and that's what

05:45:10.960 so so the first date is where you get all the kinks out and that was kind of my main let's not

05:45:16.700 bring kinks into it that early on or we could well we could if you actually depending on the kinks

05:45:24.020 you know perhaps you should all right good good talk good talk but I'm just saying boys you don't

05:45:31.120 have to tolerate a woman dating multiple dudes you shouldn't you don't no one shouldn't no and you

05:45:37.440 shouldn't if that's not what you want then don't do it and that's what the first date is for you

05:45:41.920 get to know who the other person with and whether or not if you know if you know by the first date if

05:45:49.960 you like want would be with them why would you keep going with other people but I didn't know by the

05:45:56.460 first date that you said but that's kind of what you're saying you knew their vibe that's what you

05:46:00.100 well yeah I know their vibe but I also love all the other people too like I can okay love is in

05:46:09.140 it's it's so like overwhelmingly huge for me like I just love well touching okay actually it is I have

05:46:19.520 not I am touched I did not think I could feel love until I was 16 and I was pushed to say it I was

05:46:26.120 literally okay well I was very disconnected with my feelings I was always dissociating always

05:46:36.000 dissociating and you know it is what it is and like okay with it now

05:46:41.740 I was asked the question I'm just answering it I'll just say uh gentlemen our good friend here Amber

05:46:53.520 she's currently you said you're sleeping with 10 to 15 people not necessarily sleeping but yeah I see

05:47:01.080 a good amount of people a good amount of people and yeah given week uh I mean look you're free to do

05:47:06.920 it my prescriptive advice for men is that is a totally uh intolerable situation even if you're

05:47:13.920 inclined to have casual sex I don't think you should even be having casual well you shouldn't be having

05:47:18.320 casual sex but you shouldn't be having casual sex with women who are having casual sex with other

05:47:23.480 men not necessarily some guys are open-minded to it and some guys are into it right sure that that's

05:47:31.080 exactly I mean I most of the guys I see are bisexual so no they just kind of like yeah that's that's fine

05:47:40.660 but I just for me personally even if I wanted to have a one-night stand with a girl

05:47:44.660 and she was down I was down if I knew that she was sleeping with other men I would just

05:47:49.960 totally lose interest I wouldn't even want to have even if casual sex was on the table

05:47:55.320 even if let me double down on this even if she was the most beautiful woman in the world

05:48:01.040 beautiful face best body imaginable if she's currently sleeping with another guy it is a hundred percent

05:48:10.620 a deal breaker whether I'm interested in a short-term fling or long-term relationship

05:48:15.520 and if she's sexually involved with another dude it's a wrap but what if she's sleeping with another

05:48:20.820 guy who's also sleeping with another guy Brian um what's I mean why does it make a difference yeah

05:48:28.220 still still no if she's still sleeping still no okay uh yeah so anyways uh moving on moving on

05:48:36.920 and uh really you sleep with dudes who slept with dudes and are sleeping with dudes like really

05:48:43.240 that's a thing what yeah of course it is what's wrong with that there's a lot of bisexual men a lot

05:48:50.700 a lot of pan men I don't even know what sexual I wouldn't even define myself I don't know I'm very

05:48:55.760 open-minded you're pansexual yeah what does that mean pansexual just means oh god I hate okay

05:49:01.440 I don't understand it's it's not bisexual is like men and women pansexual also includes

05:49:06.520 gender fluid people or trans genders as well which as a bi I actually think that it was

05:49:12.060 everything but whatever oh have you have you uh dated a trans individual dated no maybe hooked up yeah

05:49:18.060 dated no had uh hooked up with yes had these the sex um do you okay we won't linger on this one

05:49:27.800 going around the table did they have the full the full thing did the whole surgery and everything

05:49:34.460 no no no would you would you though huh yeah did they have the full surgery yeah no I don't care

05:49:42.420 yeah people are people as long as the sensory is good that's all that matters to me so uh uh

05:49:47.940 going around the table do you think it's wrong for a man I didn't even want to bring it here but

05:49:54.180 because y'all brought it up I have to you you baited me into asking this question do you think

05:49:58.400 it would be wrong for a man to not want to date a transgender woman it's really someone's preference

05:50:06.380 I agree it's all about preference it's about preference yeah 100 always I think that who you

05:50:13.700 choose to date is completely and totally up to you yeah I think can you repeat the question because

05:50:19.660 I agree with you but I was like oh wrong is it wrong for a man to not want to date a transgender

05:50:24.960 woman because I should have said that because she's trans no personally no nope nope and dog no

05:50:33.460 I feel like you should maybe like frame this question in like yeah I feel like oh he really

05:50:38.900 likes her they started dating already but he finds or like it was it was it was changed halfway through

05:50:44.640 the table a little bit obviously like preference yeah we've we've had people argue that it is

05:50:49.420 objectionable though really to this question yes I mean okay I've heard I think that if you're if

05:50:54.860 you're a straight man and you're dating um a transgender woman that you're that doesn't make you gay

05:51:02.700 you're still straight okay that was going to be my next is that what you mean because I don't think

05:51:06.560 that makes you gay if they're fully transitioned then they are a trans woman and they're still a woman

05:51:12.320 yeah okay so that's and you're having sex with someone that looks appears and is right so

05:51:17.620 identifies as a woman so that is actually the follow-up question that I've been forgetting to

05:51:22.280 ask for a while now I feel like that's more so uh so yes going around the table um is it straight

05:51:30.280 for a male who is not trans to have sex with a male who is a transgender woman

05:51:37.780 I need that but that's not a male then it's a transgender no it's still and are they fully

05:51:43.840 transitioned there's only it's not it's it's not it's not wrong I feel like it's not I feel like

05:51:49.500 it's not wrong to have a preference and to not want to date somebody who is transitioning or trans or

05:51:56.480 transgender overall like that is your preference you have you know the right to like be like oh that's

05:52:02.140 not for me personally but well yeah we're talking about it but I also don't like I already said yeah

05:52:07.640 I don't think that that's gay at all well okay so but you said fully transitioned right so what if

05:52:13.460 they didn't fully transition I mean then I don't know that's like a sticky you just be respectful of

05:52:21.440 whatever I think you just be respectful you just be respectful yeah right but hold on we're we're not

05:52:26.520 talking about respect we're talking about is it straight but then what is sexuality yeah I can't

05:52:34.200 really define okay hold on so you're talking to a bunch of people that are born in like early 2000s

05:52:40.460 that don't like like to just like put all these labels of like being straight gay like you being

05:52:46.120 straight I think there's two genders I mean there's two w's in the chat there's two genders that you can be

05:52:51.660 more humor going off no there is men and there's women I mean I'm not want to completely get into

05:52:57.400 there's men there's women I think if you trans trans I don't even know the word transform into

05:53:03.660 that transition that's what I was saying like transform transition into that you're still

05:53:10.640 what you are biologically at birth you just transferred because you still have all like the

05:53:15.580 man let's say you go from a man to a woman you still have all the testosterone you in there you

05:53:19.560 don't have as much estrogen you don't that's what medicine yeah yeah but it's still not gonna be

05:53:24.460 100 it's okay here let's just get a straight answer let's get a straight answer to the straight

05:53:29.260 question okay is it straight for a male to she's she's she brought it up and she's you're dipping

05:53:40.540 you're dipping you got you gotta hit the vape right now bro I answered both questions and my vape is

05:53:45.460 dead I fucking wish you got hit the vape no I wish my vape's been dead for like an hour all right

05:53:50.640 oh babka for the first time reading ever yo babka thank you for the raid man I hope uh you had a

05:53:57.880 good stream and nick pull up twitch why not pull up twitch we'll wait till l is back because we're not

05:54:03.200 allowing her to weasel she doesn't get to weasel out of this question yo babka thank you for the raid

05:54:09.040 man and uh hope you're uh when's molten core coming out bro bobka when's molten core sod phase

05:54:17.060 four world of warcraft guys if you're coming from bobka stream drop us a follow in a prime sub

05:54:22.260 maybe you don't have a prime sub but at least drop us a little follow in the chat and um

05:54:28.460 yeah that's it drop us a follow in the prime and for our viewers guys it's been 15 minutes since we

05:54:34.240 last got the prime I think it's bugged can somebody do a little test run see if it working

05:54:37.640 okay so is it straight for a man to hook up with uh a transgender woman yeah okay yeah yes

05:54:53.280 I do believe it is based on a level of transitioning

05:54:59.560 okay all right what about you flat out no nope nope no um no okay and l it was a yes for you

05:55:12.000 right it is straight I answered both questions the only reason I went to go get go to the restroom

05:55:16.740 I answered both of the questions already before I walked away so what was it I you want me to read

05:55:23.380 okay I said that um if a man if a if a straight man is dating a transgender woman and she's fully

05:55:30.440 like it's not it's not it's not gay yeah I said that so can I okay I've just got we won't linger

05:55:36.000 long on this I just have a couple questions so straight is short form slang for what

05:55:41.400 heterosexual yeah heterosexual right um so when we say homosexual we mean same-sex relationship

05:55:50.720 right okay uh you would agree that these people have not changed their sex correct

05:55:56.020 if they've gone through drastic surgery to change their sex then you can't change your sex but

05:56:02.040 they're biological no they're biologically not they're biologically not yeah right but so they

05:56:07.360 can't do certain things that a woman can do like have a baby or have a period but homosexual means

05:56:12.160 same-sex right okay straight is short form slang for heterosexual so if homosexual means same-sex

05:56:20.680 same-sex relationship then you could perhaps argue they've changed their gender but you wouldn't argue

05:56:28.520 that they changed their sex right so then wouldn't it be the case if two males were dating regardless

05:56:36.260 of their gender they're in a homosexual relationship yeah if two males that are

05:56:43.540 that identify and have a penis they could both they could even both be transgender I'm really I'm

05:56:49.260 really confused by this uh identification why would the identification matter in this case if if

05:56:56.600 homosexual the definition because you're still straight if you're attracted to hang on hang on let me let me

05:57:01.060 ask the question before you answer it if homosexual means same-sex right same-sex activity if you're

05:57:11.420 having sex with a member of the same sex can you explain how that's not homosexual I actually would

05:57:17.300 like to know the answer I'm saying that if if a if a man is like has a has a penis and is a man like

05:57:27.560 identifies as a man is a man and a transgender has had surgery and has a vagina I don't think that

05:57:33.660 you're gay for being attracted to somebody that has had surgery to get there to be a woman like

05:57:40.760 that's not gay to me like you're still gay men are attracted to other men all the time right but

05:57:46.540 they're still gay and that's fine but if you're if you're a if you're not a gay man and you're attracted

05:57:52.520 to someone that looks is and on all other accounts other than being able to have a baby or have a

05:57:58.340 period then that's not gay in my opinion that that's all women are is no I'm just saying that

05:58:04.540 that's like those are like the two big things that are that are that a transgender woman cannot do

05:58:09.580 but anything else is like that's what makes a woman yeah but here's here's the problem with this

05:58:16.560 reasoning let me see if I can't if I can't point it out real quick let's say a man was brutally mangled

05:58:22.420 in a propeller accident on a boat and lost his genitalia and afterwards he had an estrogen spike

05:58:30.220 and so he grew breasts and he already had long hair and and this kind of thing you would not

05:58:36.580 consider him a woman if he did not consider himself a woman correct yeah because he's not making he's

05:58:42.420 getting he's in an accident that's different then all of this is based on actively making these

05:58:47.100 surgeries yeah so then all of this is based around self-identification because if I gave you

05:58:51.440 somebody else who was trans who had the same characteristics of the trans person you're

05:58:55.960 talking about you still would not consider that homosexual behavior and that's what I don't

05:59:00.900 understand same sex is same sex well see you're talking about a single accident what she's talking

05:59:09.820 about is the whole identity including the sex and you know like an actual surgery actual hormones

05:59:18.440 um actually going through everything um reconditioning the body because a lot of a lot of things go into

05:59:26.960 completely transitioning and yes okay and I'm willing to grant that I'm willing to grant that you can

05:59:33.920 have uh genital you can have uh you know genital surgery you can have surgery on your body you can

05:59:40.120 have hormone replacement all of these things to fit what we would consider secondary sex characteristics

05:59:45.360 for women I'm gonna not dispute that but then you still also have to tangle with this idea

05:59:51.280 that if that were to naturally occur for a male you would not consider him not a male unless he

05:59:59.000 considered himself not a male so if we got a one-to-one comparison of a person had the same

06:00:04.780 characteristics as somebody else who changed all those characteristics to be the thing they would

06:00:09.080 still be the same exact thing so I actually have a question um referring to any group of people

06:00:14.940 as a thing it's just crazy to me sorry sorry I do agree but um I do have a question wait back

06:00:21.900 back up I didn't refer to a group of people as a thing I said if you have a thing that has the exact

06:00:28.460 characteristics as another thing I don't understand where you would create this delineation point

06:00:34.700 through choice of whether or not they oh my god I don't want to carry this whole conversation you

06:00:41.100 can go for it I don't care either way because I'm pansexual I I will date any type of person so to me

06:00:48.920 it doesn't make a difference but if we're just like talking about like if uh if if there was a straight

06:00:55.460 man that is dating a transgender woman would I consider him gay personally no and is there

06:01:01.560 anything that you can say yeah he's straight yes and there's nothing like there's nothing that you

06:01:07.760 can tell me that's going to change my belief or opinion on that even if we're just looking at the

06:01:11.880 pure definitions of are they is a transgender woman biologically a woman absolutely not and I

06:01:17.600 think any transgeneral woman realizes and will recognize those differences between a biological woman

06:01:22.640 and a woman that has gone through that transition well then if that is the case then what is a woman

06:01:29.440 I did say what you said again I don't think anyone heard if that is the case then what is a woman

06:01:39.460 what is a man man would be a person who had the reproductive capabilities of us they would have

06:01:51.780 small gametes they would have x y chromosomes uh they would fit the ontological definition

06:01:58.080 of a man well the whole chromosomes thing um it has been proven that you know it's all not

06:02:06.880 necessarily true and there's multiple variants of of the yeah okay maybe and we can we can dispute

06:02:13.760 that in a second I'm happy to get into that but before I do what is a woman now that I've answered

06:02:19.100 your question can you answer mine well I don't really consider myself a woman so I cannot really

06:02:26.700 answer that because what do you consider hang on do you consider yourself do you consider yourself a rock

06:02:32.480 no I don't consider myself a rock well and but could you tell me what a rock is even though you don't

06:02:39.800 consider yourself one I mean I'm not a I don't really deal with rocks so no I cannot can't tell

06:02:50.040 me what a rock is can you tell me what a tree is yes I can now are you a tree outside are you a tree

06:02:57.900 no I'm not but it's really strange that you can you can hang on it's really strange to me that you

06:03:03.200 know what things are even if you're not the thing so what is a woman again okay so a woman in my

06:03:12.180 opinion is someone who identifies as a woman a woman shouldn't be oh wait wait wait hang on hang

06:03:18.760 on let's move back in my personal opinion I don't really okay I understand a woman is someone who

06:03:25.640 identifies as a woman if this is the case then could you be sleeping with somebody and they roll over and

06:03:31.960 say hey baby I'm a woman and you would be having lesbian sex is that correct depends on if they're

06:03:40.620 considering themselves lesbians they just decided yeah they're lesbians and you can have sex with a

06:03:47.620 woman as a woman and not have lesbian sex why can't they identify as a tree and and then or why can't

06:03:55.100 they identify themselves as a dead body and then call you a necrophiliac why can't they do that

06:04:00.180 well there's a kink for that so technically they can there's a kink for everything there is a kink

06:04:05.420 for everything so so to get this right you think that you would be a necrophiliac if you somebody

06:04:11.320 you were sleeping with rolled over and identified as being a dead body

06:04:15.320 what it's the same logic if you say that anybody is a woman who identifies as being a woman which means

06:04:24.800 a woman when I ask you what is a woman it is anybody who identifies as which means anybody

06:04:30.560 who identifies as a woman is a woman which means woman is anybody identifies as a woman it's an

06:04:35.260 infinite regress so a woman is a societal role listen to what's being said first listen first

06:04:41.880 then respond so if you have a regressive definition an infinite regress a loop I never actually get the

06:04:48.880 information as to what a woman is it's just anybody who identifies as one which is anybody who

06:04:53.920 identifies as one well what is that whoever identifies as that we're not actually clarifying

06:04:59.400 what a woman is okay so let's say a woman is the one who has the vagina and the one who has

06:05:07.420 the breasts and presents themselves as a woman so let's say that let's say that's a woman or if that

06:05:15.700 is the okay well let's say that that is for the argument's sake okay can you agree though that there

06:05:22.260 could be men who have all of those characteristics and even present themselves in a way that you would

06:05:28.300 consider womanly but don't consider themselves a woman yes would you consider hang on would you

06:05:33.000 consider them a woman no because they don't okay we're back to the same problem of anybody's a woman

06:05:38.920 who says they're a woman we're back to the same exact problem again every single person is different

06:05:43.340 and there's nuance in every single person's journey and I feel like we've already established that

06:05:48.560 like every single person is that's just fluff that doesn't tell me shit Andrew oh everybody's

06:05:54.340 is different okay so what what does that have to do with anything okay yeah but you're not even a

06:06:00.060 part of the whole like community you're not a part of the actual conversations that the people are

06:06:06.620 having about gender you are just presenting your opinion as a cis white male dude so it's like what

06:06:14.760 what does what does that have to do with anything because did you just say you're you're hang on did you

06:06:21.320 just say white and straight so opinion dismissed are we are we doing the you go girl I'm a fucking strong

06:06:27.320 lesbo I'm here to fucking like what are we doing here no I am just saying that what you're saying

06:06:33.640 what you're trying to create and generate conversation about like this is not really

06:06:40.400 a conversation that me and you should be having why not because it is good to talk about like

06:06:48.000 dilemmas and stuff okay so oh my god so because I am not a trans woman I cannot answer those questions

06:06:55.260 and neither is he I'm not a rock but I can talk about rocks I'm not a tree talk about tree I'm not a

06:07:01.280 cat I can talk about cats not a dog talk about a dog talk about everything on planet earth but

06:07:05.840 somehow somehow if I don't go and surgically alter my genitalia I'm not qualified to know what a woman

06:07:13.220 is or is not you can have your own let me ask you a question do you have any opinions at all

06:07:19.020 on how children are raised in society I have a few oh yeah hang on and do you have any children

06:07:26.180 no then you're totally disqualified from that conversation I completely agree which is why

06:07:31.360 I'm not a part of that totally disqualified from that conversation you cannot have any opinions

06:07:35.340 about children yeah I do not I do not voice you you just said that you do have opinions about it

06:07:41.300 opinions but I do not voice them nor have conversations with other with the parents like

06:07:46.500 I do not so people can't have opinions so you have no opinion on whether or not it's child abuse

06:07:52.300 if somebody goes in their room pulls out a belt and starts beating the shit out of their kid with

06:07:56.920 it is that child abuse considering that was down to me yes I do consider oh wait that's an opinion

06:08:03.220 about children that's an opinion about it nope dismissed it's an opinion about children you can

06:08:08.000 have opinions but no you can't to discuss yes you can no you have your own opinions I have my own

06:08:14.720 opinions no no no you just said that you're not allowed to have an opinion you just said you're not

06:08:20.720 allowed to have an opinion if you don't have kids you don't have an opinion so when you say

06:08:25.020 x thing x thing with children is abuse you are not qualified to make that statement because you have

06:08:30.260 no children by your own logic I just think that I just think that what I get what you're trying to

06:08:36.100 say and I also understand her so I'm just going to try and help you guys see eye to eye a little bit

06:08:40.520 just a little bit it's just that she's trying she is trying to say that um you know every every person

06:08:48.900 has the right to have their opinion just like you do even if she doesn't agree with it that's perfectly

06:08:53.760 fine but when you're talking about a a group of people or peoples that you have no knowledge on and

06:09:03.220 you're a married straight man you have no right to tell other people what their sexual preferences is

06:09:08.560 or what their sexuality is that's not what he's saying when it's not but but he's saying that

06:09:12.120 it's gay to have sex or be with a transgender woman it objectively is that's it objectively is

06:09:21.120 hang on hang on let her let her speak I'm just going to respond directly to what you're saying go ahead

06:09:30.440 and finish it's just that I don't think personally like okay wait wait wait I'm sorry I have to

06:09:36.300 interrupt I have to interrupt so couldn't we just throw this right back at you who are you to tell

06:09:43.020 us what's straight I've as a straight man I've dated no no no transgender so I'm speaking on my on my own

06:09:49.940 actual personal experiences but you're okay if it's not gay then it's straight then who are you to tell

06:09:54.880 me that as a straight man what is straight and what isn't I never said that you had to have your

06:10:00.180 opinion or that you couldn't have your opinion or that what if you deem it as gay that is your

06:10:06.020 yeah but you're having a meta conversation we're having a meta conversation of Andrew can't say

06:10:10.000 this Andrew can't say x because I never said he couldn't say he doesn't belong to the your precise

06:10:15.600 identity group I never said that I that he couldn't say anything or that he in fact said that he can

06:10:21.220 have an opinion even if I don't agree with it or she doesn't why did you bring up his identity group

06:10:25.460 as a straight white man who's married because it's just that it's just that he he can't tell

06:10:30.440 nobody should tell anybody what their whether something that they do is straight or gay or

06:10:35.780 whatever it doesn't matter well okay let's let me just respond to this okay so let's start with just

06:10:42.340 a simple question do you believe that there is a truth of a matter meaning there is a truth to

06:10:50.500 everything it's either true or it is not true it cannot be both true and untrue because that would

06:10:56.000 be a contradiction right it's just that we're talking about answer my question without obfuscating

06:11:03.180 there's no is something either true or untrue but isn't there that experiment I'm gonna I'm gonna

06:11:09.320 just I'm gonna keep asking until I get an answer you can say no or you can say yes but is a thing

06:11:16.840 either true or untrue can it be both true and untrue at the same time there's nuance it's not black and

06:11:24.960 white oh so you're saying that a thing can be true and untrue at the same time yeah like it's

06:11:30.560 so so contradictions contradictions are possible dead in the life at the same time in the box

06:11:36.020 so let me just make sure I just want to make sure I get your position down something can be both true

06:11:41.520 and untrue yeah because it is all so you can have hands and not have hands please it is all based on

06:11:49.560 our our perceptions because we have all grown up in different ways we all have our own perceptions

06:11:57.000 you have your own do you see this cup do you see this cup sure am I drinking from this cup

06:12:03.800 I don't know if you are okay well I'm drinking from the cup there's liquid in it and I'm swallowing

06:12:09.800 it would that be drinking say so but I would have no way of knowing and I okay you have no way of

06:12:15.300 knowing that I'm holding a cup no I have no way of knowing if you're actually drinking from the cup

06:12:19.840 or if okay am I holding a cup sure you're holding a cup is that true I suppose okay so could I both be

06:12:27.700 holding this cup and not be holding this cup at the same time is that possible with because you are

06:12:34.460 literally showing me that you're holding the cup uh-huh yeah you're holding the cup okay so only one of

06:12:42.300 those things can be true right only one of those things can be true I can't both be holding the cup

06:12:47.780 stop stop stop stop stop you present I cannot be both holding the cup and not holding the cup at

06:12:54.420 the same time can I okay if you lower it down and I and I cannot see if you're holding the cup then

06:13:02.480 yeah you're both holding the cup and not holding the cup because then no I would still only be either a

06:13:07.640 holding no no no I have no opinion that's insane what you just said is insane even if the cup was in

06:13:13.480 a place where you couldn't see it if I would still either a be holding the cup or be not be holding

06:13:19.540 the cup I still could not be both holding it and not holding it at the same time I wouldn't know you

06:13:24.780 may not know but whether you stop whether you know it or not doesn't matter what matters is that

06:13:32.840 the truth is there's only two options I'm either holding it or I'm not holding it it can't be

06:13:38.000 anything else okay right okay so if that is true then you're saying that yes with that particular

06:13:44.620 example yes you can be because you say so you can be either holding the cup or not holding the cup

06:13:50.700 okay right so only one can be true it's not nuanced it's not nuanced there's only one truth so

06:13:55.580 yeah what I'm saying here is that it can you both be a homosexual and not a homosexual at the same

06:14:02.760 time can you be having gay straight sex I cannot answer on that because I'm not a homosexual on that

06:14:10.140 because you could be both holding and not holding the cup right I don't know if you're homosexual or not

06:14:17.620 so it's like I'm sorry I cannot answer for you you have to ask yourself that I cannot answer for you

06:14:24.820 I just want to make sure you can be having gay straight sex at the same time that's correct

06:14:30.360 I did not hear you you don't you can be having gay straight sex at the same time

06:14:35.200 gay straight yeah you're it's gay straight sex right yeah well if you have a gay person and a

06:14:43.600 straight with one person with one person do you know the way can you be having homosexual and

06:14:50.020 heterosexual sex at the exact same time with one person yes okay can you explain how that would be

06:14:56.840 possible okay let's say you are having sex with somebody who is in a role play presenting as a

06:15:09.500 someone else that's why I stick to anal sex yeah so so so wait a second so to get this right

06:15:17.680 you can be engaging in both a same sex activity with one person while at simultaneously with that

06:15:25.860 same person be engaging in heterosexual sex is that your actual position I don't have a position on that

06:15:33.280 this is ridiculous no you're ridiculous I'm sorry thank you two seconds ago you just said I could

06:15:39.340 both be holding and not holding a cup that you could see visibly because I wouldn't know

06:15:42.520 unless you're actually showing like I don't know you might be floating a cup with your

06:15:50.500 with your magic like I don't know you might have fucking magic and just floating the cup

06:15:55.760 yeah we're cooked guys yeah I'm tired I haven't slept in like two days I believe you can you give

06:16:05.900 us an answer though uh what is a woman I guess um can you give us an answer can I give you an answer

06:16:14.640 on what a woman is it doesn't matter what you think that was Nick sure um honestly I cannot give you

06:16:27.060 okay you know what yes I will that's okay that's okay because the thing is is that personally on gender

06:16:34.420 I cannot give you a defining answer on anything because I think everything is a spectrum and I

06:16:39.760 think everything is nuanced and it's all whatever the person perceives to be the truth I can already

06:16:45.000 tell that I don't like you wow thank you I'm so happy to be back all right um I gotta do a quick

06:16:52.100 intermission here um I realized the mistake we made we everywhere else except I might have even been

06:16:59.220 on Twitch too we had a pinned comment in the chat that says TTS was 69 for the entirety of the whole

06:17:06.920 show I meant to switch it after the 30 minute mark uh that was my mistake some of you did send in 69s

06:17:12.480 after we switched it to back to the original so I'm going to go through the history just to be fair

06:17:18.700 I won't be able to trigger the TTS because it's fallen off but um I just want to get through them

06:17:25.640 because it came in we had it listed as TTS set to 69 just to be fair to the people that sent it in

06:17:31.800 I don't want to feel like you guys got scammed out of your uh your uh stream labs tip so I'm going to

06:17:37.820 let uh a couple of these come through lol paladins donated 69 dollars if the woman is the breadwinner

06:17:45.280 ask each of these women if they are dating a broke man if so why are they not married to that broke man

06:17:51.900 is anybody dating a broke man show of hands no y'all dating I have a couple broke ones a couple

06:17:59.360 brokeys can I finish with just this one last point just of course I just wanted to ask uh

06:18:05.420 our russian friend one last thing donated 69 dollars yeah russian girl's iq is questionable

06:18:11.280 she's been drinking chenoble water I mean honestly

06:18:14.940 so since since everything is nuanced can I just have one last question okay go ahead can you can

06:18:24.760 you tell me how it would be possible for one plus one to not equal two

06:18:29.500 does does one plus one equal two um I swear if you don't say yes wait wait just just let her answer

06:18:40.800 does does one plus one equals two oh to to desert oh yeah you were there with

06:18:48.180 I'm having flashbacks I'm sorry I can't does two plus two equal four two plus two equals four

06:18:54.700 one plus one equals two one plus one that was your question so so wait so then everything doesn't

06:18:59.880 have nuance and actually it still has nuance because let's say you combine one person and you

06:19:05.720 combine one other person and then you actually become three people when you have a baby

06:19:10.580 like I don't know it's like well then that would be three people you see how that works

06:19:15.160 one plus one plus one equals three but like that's my point everything is no no no that's my point

06:19:22.000 that's not nuance you say if I take one person and I add another person I have two people and then

06:19:27.520 if I add a third person then I have three people I agree would that be the truth of the matter without

06:19:33.100 is there any nuance there can you explain the nuance of one plus one plus one equaling anything but

06:19:39.180 three okay one plus one equals two as numbers that's it and that's as far as I'm gonna go I'm not

06:19:48.220 gonna go into math with well wait can it can you can you uh tell me how one person plus one person

06:19:53.680 could equal three people um one of them gives birth to a baby that would be a third person that would

06:20:00.380 become a third person but again we're not talking about that would be three people ask me for nuance

06:20:05.400 I'm giving you a perspective that's not nuanced no I'm giving you a perspective because on the on the

06:20:11.660 nuance where it can be possible you've asked me for that how could it be possible tell me um so you

06:20:18.780 don't think that a woman a biological woman and a biological man can come together and create a child

06:20:26.380 that would be three people not two people that's what I said it would yeah but then and that's my

06:20:33.020 point that you're just saying one plus one equals two but you're just saying hang on hang on all

06:20:37.820 you're saying is one plus one equals two but one plus one plus one equals three that's not any nuance

06:20:43.600 about one plus one equaling two what no okay I gotta move this on please because this is this is

06:20:52.600 ridiculous this does not make any sense it is ridiculous and it doesn't make any sense and I

06:20:57.400 don't understand why you don't grasp these really basic concepts tts is 69 fyi everybody tts is 69

06:21:05.100 I'm gonna get caught up on the ones we unfortunately that was just an error on uh our part uh so I will

06:21:12.300 I'll have to read some of them that didn't come through but some of them did come through so

06:21:17.220 walking roscoe underscore on underscore youtube you can make it 77 dollars and 77 cents appreciate

06:21:25.160 it man dating is not the way to find out who somebody really is because at any given time

06:21:30.080 they are only showing 10 percent of who they actually are it's as if you're dating a woman's

06:21:35.400 publicist or pr agent yeah I mean it goes both ways you don't want to give a hundred percent when

06:21:44.660 you're like first starting off why would you not show who you are from the start why would you not

06:21:49.920 explain what your values are from the start on the first day I agree with that I think it's more so

06:21:54.080 people hiding their and I don't think that people should be hiding behind issues or whatever yeah we

06:21:59.360 have nickelodeon nickelodeon donated 69 dollars what the you heard it here from a woman's mouth folks

06:22:07.220 women are apparently nothing more than a meat pocket for men to copulate with a nickelodeon good to see you

06:22:13.180 in the chat um apologies again to you and to everybody else who sent in uh tts's at the 69 range

06:22:20.280 just a little oversight on our part to have kept that pinned in the youtube chat let me go through

06:22:27.440 some of the other ones so we have uh let's see hold on guys I gotta just read these from the history

06:22:35.320 woman prattle says this is why women think they can marry after being the town bicycle

06:22:40.880 her her uh husband is a simp wow okay god damn oh sure okay let's talk about how these 30 foe take

06:22:48.700 advantage of these weak men for the foe 401k okay thank you woman prattle that came in like four hours

06:22:57.380 ago I'm sorry bro um perfect posture emporium hey Brian whatever you like in our store oh wait did that

06:23:03.660 one come through yeah I think so yeah okay okay um not I don't think I missed too many but there was

06:23:11.160 one from Ike Voorhees he says if you ladies think you're a 10 then y'all should have competed in Miss

06:23:17.300 Universe pageant by the way the lady with the black top and a

06:23:20.700 I can't see it can I say it I can't see it from here so uh and a blank look like Mariah Carey a little

06:23:32.960 I guess she says you look like Mariah Carey that's a compliment that is a compliment right

06:23:38.520 she's pretty thank you I appreciate it I don't know what the blank was so I don't really know if I

06:23:43.440 want to say thank you yeah uh okay then no thank you psycho just getting here but for some reason

06:23:50.720 girl with horseshoe necklace seems sane very attractive and going places in life best of luck

06:23:57.240 beautiful hashtag no simping oh that was so sweet thank you I think she's very beautiful

06:24:02.620 oh yeah 100% psycho appreciate a man sorry for sorry that it did not come through as a tts

06:24:08.580 oh you did a little heart okay yeah law paladins if the woman is the breadwinner ask each of these

06:24:15.060 women if they're dating a already did that one yeah sorry little paladins okay all right I think

06:24:21.760 we're all caught up tts is uh Nick show the center thing just pulled up tts is 69 if you got oh actually

06:24:28.840 well that wouldn't make sense yeah um tts is now 69 we have a few more things to uh get through

06:24:34.920 let's see here oh feminism you wanted to talk about feminism alex yeah I was you said why do the hosts

06:24:44.500 hate feminist so much lol I I yeah I was confused the last time because like I when you asked um like

06:24:53.680 who considers themselves a feminist I was the only one who raised their hand and you were like we're

06:24:58.720 gonna get back to that and never did yeah no well before we get into that I'm just like a little

06:25:03.800 confused about like the whole like not liking feminist yeah so here why don't we get everybody's

06:25:10.600 answer to this first uh do you consider yourself a feminist I don't I don't know wow you're really

06:25:16.100 far from the mic it's like really I don't know I don't think so okay all right cool

06:25:20.360 to what the standards are today in society the definition for a feminist no okay what about you

06:25:28.640 I consider myself a feminist but not the man the man hater that the society perceives it we can get

06:25:35.500 into that um do you consider yourself a feminist well you're are you beat down over the convo with

06:25:44.640 andrew we're very tired yeah I'm sorry it's a long trip no no I'm not tired I'm fine okay uh do you

06:25:53.060 consider yourself a feminist I don't know what the actual like what would you say like for like the

06:25:56.920 definition of like uh well there I there's different definitions feminists define it differently

06:26:01.840 I have a charitable definition and then I have an actual definition my charitable charitable definition

06:26:07.460 would be uh a movement for women's advocacy it's just like that's the most charitable I can be it's

06:26:16.220 about equality between men and women as human beings okay we'll get into that but let's let her answer

06:26:23.340 so um I'd say I don't farted how dare you bro okay I'm kidding she didn't fart I thought it was you

06:26:31.260 it was Morgan just kidding it was Nick just throwing my entire crew on the bus yeah transcontinent well

06:26:40.380 not continental transcontinental it could still be transcontinental fart Andrew just wafted it from his

06:26:47.640 abode okay okay I'd say yeah um yeah what woman's woman's advocacy movement I guess um I'd say I

06:26:58.080 don't know Andrew what what's your definition Andrew your charitable so feminism I would say is the

06:27:05.280 movement towards the egalitarian society between men and women equality and the rejection of patriarchal

06:27:12.580 systems um could you please define that one word that you used at the beginning my english is not

06:27:18.360 too good rejection no no no the patriarchal uh egalitarian yes egalitarian just uh equality

06:27:26.800 okay equality between men and women and the rejection of patriarchal systems okay I can't smell

06:27:34.200 anything over here do you smell something it's not on this side okay

06:27:37.980 I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $69 he's strong handsome hung like a bull moose perfect in

06:27:52.260 every way you get to his house in the corner of his bedroom dun dun da a fully loaded AR-15

06:27:59.960 firearm what's your reaction oh boy okay um here just really quick around the table on that uh gotta

06:28:10.460 go no okay

06:28:11.720 I don't even have to say to that I really don't okay strong handsome hung like a bull moose perfect in

06:28:21.000 every way in his bedroom there's a AR-15 okay would you okay would you and the full I'm not gonna run

06:28:28.060 the other way would you like would that disqualify him if he had a gun from dating app no fully loaded

06:28:34.560 one though no fully loaded yeah but like that's what he said like yeah it's the big one well no

06:28:42.400 like what's the intent behind it is he gonna like is he a harmful dude or like what's the is it just

06:28:48.900 no no there's no additional qualifiers he has a fully loaded rifle an AR-15 there in his room

06:28:55.200 you see it is that a problem no but yes for you what about you oh it's not a problem for me I would

06:29:01.640 just ask about it L I'm a boyfriend so I wouldn't be in their room but if I okay for for the podcast

06:29:10.020 sake um if I personally I've had a lot of trauma with around surrounding guns and I just don't feel

06:29:16.940 comfortable around them I wouldn't like not want to be around that person I would just ask them politely

06:29:22.860 to please remove the gun from that like from my visual being able to see it I would just respectfully

06:29:28.440 ask I personally think everyone should own guns so I wouldn't I would just question why is it out

06:29:34.380 of the gun safe and why is it loaded do you want do you want a gun uh personally I can't because I'm

06:29:38.720 I'm 19 I I can only uh I want to you can you can own rifles yeah that's what I was gonna say I can

06:29:44.920 own rifle but I wouldn't want to own a rifle personally uh I'd want to own a handgun and I want to as

06:29:49.380 soon as I turn 21 you can own a handgun at 19 maybe it's California uh even in California that's

06:29:55.980 a federal law federal law says that dealers can't sell at 21 but you can own it state state laws say

06:30:02.060 18 is appropriate to own a handgun I don't know in California specifically but it wouldn't surprise

06:30:06.140 me if you could at 18. No I'm from Texas. What about you? It's like 16. I'm from Australia so this doesn't

06:30:14.100 really apply because we don't have guns. Well let's say you're living in America. That's fine. America okay

06:30:20.780 all right all right thank you uh I'm so glad I'm not dating really good to see you back in the chat

06:30:25.060 man appreciate your TTS thank you man thank you thank you uh back to the question uh the feminist thing

06:30:30.420 you were asking for clarification on egalitarianism which is equality essentially right right yeah

06:30:38.880 so uh feminists I'd say we're pretty equal I'd say just maybe raise women's pays more I don't know

06:30:45.660 okay yeah no feminist no mdog nare nare okay yeah I can agree with the sequel pay for us no

06:30:56.160 every time I hear an Australian accent say no like that by the way every time I hear an

06:31:05.700 Australian say no I just think of the h2o mermaids okay so I love how you guys talk personally it's

06:31:12.980 like it's so it's so beautiful satisfying if that makes sense yes so uh

06:31:19.700 who you're the only feminist or I yeah I guess again because like I just

06:31:26.660 nobody else is a feminist I guess so okay because to me it's like you said it's about equality right

06:31:31.700 so so it's it's about us being equal as human beings are men and women not not equal so because

06:31:38.780 the majority of the society was built on by male rules and I specifically brought up the examples that

06:31:46.080 I'm not going to go into the whole financial or societal thing at all however for example in the

06:31:52.020 medical terms there's no equality at all up until 1993 women could not be a part of medical testings

06:31:59.840 it's that's only then they specifically required women to be part of medical testing for any diseases

06:32:07.500 other than that women are just considered meanie men and are given just smaller doses of medications

06:32:13.460 and are not treated for the diseases okay so I can give you two rebuttals to this argument please

06:32:19.080 the first rebuttal would be um it's very dangerous to like to experiment medically on somebody who has

06:32:26.820 the potential to be pregnant I have that's the first rebuttal I've seen that argument but then like

06:32:32.280 it's a valid one it is a valid one but then it's like you can't really learn about what the bodies need

06:32:39.200 okay so then the second one is is it really like some sort of privilege to to be in such financial

06:32:46.020 dire dire straits that you're going to get experimental drugs pumped into you so it's not

06:32:52.360 about the experimental drugs it's about do you think that's a do you think that's a male privilege

06:32:57.080 that males are privileged because they get medically experimented on do you think that's evidence no or do you

06:33:05.500 think it's actually a privilege that we actually raise up women to such a degree that we want to

06:33:10.820 protect them from being medically experimented on okay I can see how you may think that and from that

06:33:17.320 perspective I can see the viewpoint however from a perspective as a chronically ill woman not a single

06:33:26.320 male doctor could ever diagnose me and in fact I've been misdiagnosed so many times I've been giving so

06:33:31.660 many wrong medications that have only worsened my symptoms so it's like specifically the medical care

06:33:39.700 and I'm only talking about in the United States because that's what I've had the most issues with

06:33:46.980 it wasn't literally until last year that a female doctor actually was able to diagnose me and prescribe

06:33:54.860 me the things and in the way that actually helped me so and only because she experienced those things

06:34:03.340 herself and she had to experiment on herself so it's like just the overall system of the of the whole health

06:34:15.580 care system in America is just terrible Andrews actually made this this other argument too is that due to women's

06:34:21.860 fluctuating hormones that tend to fluctuate more than fluctuate more than men whereas men are a bit

06:34:27.400 more uh constant exactly right but it's better to test it on them for that reason also except then it

06:34:34.640 affects women in a different way though because of their fluctuating hormones because taking some okay so

06:34:41.040 but looking at looking at the totality it's still not clear to me if it's some sort of benefit to like

06:34:48.160 it's it's some women are oppressed because i don't say women are oppressed well then women are

06:34:55.080 disadvantaged because they don't get medically experimented on no women are are disadvantaged

06:35:01.640 because they are less less likely to be diagnosed with what they're actually with the condition that

06:35:09.040 they actually have they're more likely to be is there any facts or data about that yes actually there's

06:35:16.220 plenty well there might be plenty of data that might suggest that there's more medical experimentation

06:35:23.080 on men however it's not clear to me hold on hold on let me finish it's not clear to me because of this

06:35:31.080 that somehow it translates to the uh if a drug is passed and it's been tested more on men that women are going

06:35:40.000 to have like disproportionately more negative health outcomes because it wasn't tested on them as much

06:35:46.960 well this is uh this is kind of silly anyway because when you're talking about testing standards you have

06:35:52.500 to follow what are called ethical practices so if there's drug experiments which are going on it's

06:35:57.700 going to be voluntary so what they do is they do paid voluntary drug testing so what will happen is

06:36:02.700 you uh take part in some sort of experiment college kids do this all the time for additional money

06:36:07.940 sometimes for you know 21 31 40 days sometimes a year uh men are more often the people volunteering

06:36:16.540 i volunteer in college yeah okay but that's not what okay it doesn't matter if you volunteer

06:36:22.180 what i'm saying is that men are more likely to volunteer do you know what more likely means yes i do

06:36:28.680 understand however it's like i'm not talking about specifically the testing i'm talking about the

06:36:36.840 entire system and what the doctors have been taught in the past that is still moves through today it

06:36:43.740 wasn't until 1993 that women were required to be at least like 40 percent a part of is this your best

06:36:53.980 example of inequality between men and women that is not my best example give me your best example

06:36:59.600 because these small minor examples are kind of uninteresting that okay well except as i've said i'm not

06:37:05.720 going to argue on it i was just wanting to know everyone's opinions because i'm just simply

06:37:10.200 confused why is i'm not why is being equal as human beings why 30 years ago there was disproportionate

06:37:20.500 medical testing being over 30 years ago and then even still right now there still are because

06:37:26.720 a lot of doctors are still following through with okay give me a better example example of what

06:37:33.880 inequality between men and women except i told you that i only wanted to talk about the medical

06:37:39.080 that's the soul okay that's i'm willing to talk about the medical i've i mean we've already because

06:37:44.340 you have personally have mentioned that you have heard a million things before so i'm not going to

06:37:49.760 tell you anything that you haven't heard before and that andrew hasn't heard before and i'm not here to

06:37:55.980 argue about it all i know is my experience and experience of a lot of other women who have gone

06:38:02.300 through similar issues you said 30 years ago though so that's quite a while ago so actually um

06:38:07.820 only recently biden like in 2024 has passed that it has to be 50 of the females in the testing and

06:38:16.700 actually taught you know and yeah that's that's a regressive policy so this is a completely regret

06:38:23.280 policy to then introduce your political bias into scientific testing the thing is is that

06:38:31.340 not all of not all these experiments for instance inside of medical fields would even require a

06:38:37.560 demographic of 50 of of it to be women or 30 or even 10 it's all experiment uh specific and not

06:38:45.120 only that when you're doing medical experiments try to remember that you can adjust for these other

06:38:50.760 variables you can find men for instance who have hormones which are similar to women due to all

06:38:55.540 sorts of different reasons they can have the same amount of estrogen as a modern woman and so these

06:39:00.760 experiment the experiments that you're talking about do not demonstrate a social bias towards women

06:39:06.400 there's other factors for why this occurs one such factor is they don't volunteer as much

06:39:11.460 because of ethical testing standards they just don't volunteer as much they don't give blood as

06:39:16.640 they don't do any of this stuff as much okay how would that be biased that seems like women are

06:39:22.220 uh basically selecting themselves out of that also i just want to piggyback on andrew here really quick

06:39:27.940 so you said that biden it's it has it has to be 50 50 with the medical experimentation it's i'm not 100

06:39:34.860 sure i've that's what you said i've read the document i'm not sure if it's a proposed bill or

06:39:41.380 would you be in favor of that proposal if you want i would actually so let me ask you a question on

06:39:47.060 that so assuming there's a uh medical experimentation a case study whatever it is but they're just

06:39:54.620 incapable of finding a 50 50 split wouldn't doing this prevent medical experimentation from even

06:40:04.560 occurring so it would be it would prevent advancement in medicine so no because okay okay so if a study

06:40:14.000 let me answer that so it wouldn't please because you've asked me um so it wouldn't because it

06:40:21.100 requires but the thing is is that if you can't find them you can still do the testing you just cannot

06:40:25.740 um use that same foundings on the opposite on the opposite person you can only use the foundings

06:40:34.360 that you found on that type of person and that's the key point the fact that women have been

06:40:40.100 considered literally meanie men and just been given smaller doses of medication that could potentially

06:40:46.660 harm them and have harmed them in the past that male doctors misdiagnose women all the time right but

06:40:54.300 this again this precise example you've given me i can just turn around and say for the for the uh decades

06:41:02.400 or centuries maybe not well they've been doing medical experimentation for a long time

06:41:08.140 lol paladins donated 69 dollars d i almost killed president trump get rid of forced gender

06:41:16.300 requirements back there and talk d i is a cancer on our society meritocracy is the only way to run a

06:41:22.700 business around government what's merit truck merit talk it's fucking rude man super rude okay it just

06:41:30.760 means um your your the judgment value is assessed on your merits how good or bad you are at a thing

06:41:38.460 yeah so to give you a quick easy example of this it would be i can hire you or i can hire your sister

06:41:45.120 and i hire your sister because she's better at the job than you that would be merit okay i appreciate that

06:41:52.160 thank you welcome that's a cool word like like for instance i think um the merits of your argument

06:42:00.000 suck like that for instance that would be okay and that's and that's fair enough because you're not

06:42:05.220 the one experiencing it you're not the one who's been going to well i'm experiencing your argument

06:42:11.320 that's for sure you're gonna leave before we complete the podcast okay i didn't realize it was eight

06:42:14.960 like gonna be like hours long goes long you know didn't no one told us i mean if you go to

06:42:20.320 youtube.com whatever you can see all the podcasts that go this long if you guys gotta go i'm not

06:42:27.680 gonna hold you yeah how much longer is it were you thinking i'm not trying to rush you at all i was

06:42:32.300 just curious uh maybe another 30 40 minutes okay i mean you guys are already fucking back there you're

06:42:39.200 getting up you're on your fucking phone i mean yeah just because we've been sitting here for five to

06:42:43.740 six hours yeah you've got the tiktok brain can't focus in a room of people having a conversation

06:42:49.060 no i just wasn't aware how long we were gonna be here youtube.com your friend's been on the show

06:42:54.340 two times before yeah i thought youtube.com social whatever you can see we're not there's disclosures

06:43:00.940 about the length of the podcast everywhere i mean i mean i completed the podcast twice i know how long

06:43:08.540 it is i i'm aware i i am they are my ride though so i'm gonna have to leave with them and you didn't

06:43:13.460 tell your friends how long it was no i did i think this is going a little bit wait wait so then they

06:43:18.140 knew in addition to that wait so they knew no we did not how late were they wait how can how could

06:43:24.860 they be whining about how long it is if you told them how long it was i did but it's it's it's i think

06:43:30.120 it's going a little bit longer than you also you guys were also i believe we're 30 30 minutes late

06:43:34.620 was it no we got here we got here with everyone else were they we were yeah we were outside with

06:43:40.580 everyone no no what time they didn't get me until well okay hold on hold on so okay what time did we

06:43:46.680 ask you guys to be here four and i got here at 4 20 and we got here at 4 20 and i told you before

06:43:51.420 earlier 4 20 is when the food got here yeah and i told you before we were even 30 minutes away that i

06:43:57.140 was gonna that we were gonna be a little bit late and you said it was okay message well i did message

06:44:02.660 work with yeah you said i told you that there was traffic was 4 20 and i got here before 4 20

06:44:08.400 because we sped to get here to make sure that we did okay and then you brought food and you had to

06:44:12.640 eat the food even though we asked we didn't eat beforehand we didn't eat we didn't eat the food

06:44:17.200 before like during the stream or anything like that okay and i respectfully informed you that i was

06:44:23.160 going to be a little bit late but that i wouldn't be late to like actually being getting on to the

06:44:27.320 podcast we were still here for everything we were outside with all the other girls we got let in at the

06:44:32.240 same time you said here at 4 22 so you were late i told you i was going to be late and that my

06:44:38.980 estimated arrival was 4 20 yeah we started the show a little bit late too not because of me personally

06:44:44.780 the last person to arrive was her which i'm not saying that she was also she was also late

06:44:48.780 so we started the show a little bit late but i was with the all the other women that are here

06:44:57.100 minus her yeah we were waiting for a larger group i know i'm just saying don't just blame us for being

06:45:03.380 late yeah but we were with the whole entire i mean all the other girls i think we're here mostly on

06:45:07.240 time except for who's later than you guys we were here i'm sorry we were late everyone and and i

06:45:12.640 apologize beforehand and let you know that there was traffic but can you do yeah so it's a it's a late

06:45:18.940 night for you guys at 11 50 don't you guys go out and party and no i work yeah i work well if you

06:45:25.760 guys need to go you guys can go but or you could stay for the whole show but i mean there's some

06:45:30.060 yeah i'm down to say but it's totally it's like it's totally up to them if they're driving and they

06:45:35.500 have work in the morning i'm not going to like prevent them from going home okay yeah i think we're

06:45:39.400 going to go off thank you for having us thank you so much okay not staying the whole time so okay

06:45:43.620 okay all right thanks maddie i'm gonna have you take that seat over there okay i'm gonna have you

06:45:52.480 actually take that seat i'm gonna have uh you take that seat and then maddie you'll take that seat

06:45:59.600 over there it's nice to meet all of you guys did you say me i definitely didn't say you i'm gonna have

06:46:06.400 you just move over there yeah um i'll have you sit in that middle seat maddie will sit in the

06:46:23.460 end seat there sorry guys we're just rearranging just rearranging chairs so

06:46:30.160 yeah i said sit darling oh there's a freaking i slipped my seat oh my god did you get you got

06:46:40.200 freaked by the little it was sit it was he was just chilling spider yeah i have a neurological thing

06:46:48.080 it's been sitting here the whole time with her anyways we're gonna get back we're gonna get back

06:46:53.960 to the uh feminism debate i guess um i'm just curious on other people's opinions like obviously

06:47:00.640 i'm i might be just misunderstanding something in the culture of america because like it seems like

06:47:07.040 a lot of it is about hating men but like that's not what i don't know i was taught that's not how

06:47:12.040 i was introduced to it so i'm just simply confused okay well what i was gonna get to before uh the whole

06:47:19.080 them leaving thing um i was just gonna make the point i mean while you if i just even grant that

06:47:27.020 yeah i guess it's had negative impacts on women that you know mostly men have had experimentation

06:47:34.360 done on them i can uh sorry guys one sec did we miss the dei one or did that one come in

06:47:43.260 the lull paladin we did we got the dei okay if it was re in regards to trump okay yeah yeah we got

06:47:49.260 that one um but i could just use the precise same example to make a men's rights argument that the fact

06:47:56.280 that men throughout years and years and years have been exclusively medically experimented on would seem

06:48:05.900 to be evidence of unfair treatment towards men yeah except it was done by other men how is that

06:48:14.640 okay what if it's a what if it's female doctors who are conducting how do you know that how do you

06:48:22.080 know the sex of the doctors who have done this medical experimentation because a lot of women weren't

06:48:29.180 allowed to be doctors in the past okay so fine i'll just grant you a hundred percent of the men who

06:48:35.580 were doing the medical experimentation were men why would that matter because men's and women's

06:48:41.680 biologists are just simply you're not even you're not even answering the question wait you said you

06:48:46.220 said why does it matter this is a very this is a little uh weasel trick that you do if i point out

06:48:51.680 some way in which men are disadvantaged okay instead of actually addressing my argument you'll just say

06:48:56.820 no you said but men did it to other men well yeah in an effort to dismiss my stated grievance

06:49:04.440 so in i'm just going to fully ignore your your rebut rebuttal well and i'm going to make you stick

06:49:12.440 onto the actual conversation here okay okay so engage well what's your point that men have been

06:49:23.840 tested on unfairly i completely agree with it and also the fact that a lot of it happened during a

06:49:30.260 specific period of our history that none of us were alive for and that's where the majority of

06:49:38.700 medical history even came from to begin with is you know let me ask a different question okay um let us

06:49:48.640 assume for a second that you were the empress of the united states and everything that you said

06:49:55.800 went right whatever it was that you said that's what people did how even if there was bias in the

06:50:02.480 medical field due to ethical testing standards where women would have less good treatment than men

06:50:08.240 because their physiology is different as you point out how would you even reconcile that like how would

06:50:14.660 you actually even begin to fix that problem so um there are a lot of female doctors right now that

06:50:23.760 are focusing on on the same studies that were done on men with their medication they are trying to

06:50:30.220 conduct similar studies with women at yeah i'm not understanding why the hang on i'm not understanding

06:50:35.660 though why would the sex of the doctor matter that's just what i've read when i looked yeah but why would

06:50:42.480 the sex of the doctor matter because it were specifically women doctors who even went into

06:50:49.200 the conversation and who started the conversation to begin with there was yeah but whoever's treating

06:50:54.580 the women you don't care if they're men or women right you just care that they're treating women

06:50:59.600 are you talking about the doctors yeah you just care that they're treating women not that they are women

06:51:06.620 considering that male doctors have only hindered my health for over 11 years um and female doctors

06:51:15.920 have helped me every single time to elevate and be my better self i'm i think just women and men

06:51:26.540 again we all have different um we all have different biology that's just i mean that's a fact right like we all

06:51:35.720 are by i don't know how this answers to anything i'm asking you so i'm asking you specifically you're

06:51:40.160 the empress of the world okay okay you can wave your magic wand and somehow you're going to implement

06:51:47.540 a policy which is now going to assist women with medical studies okay well if i had a magic wand i

06:51:56.660 wouldn't necessarily do it about the studies i would actually just have all the doctors have all the

06:52:03.920 knowledge on both of the sexes and how to treat them again no no no no you said i had a magic wand

06:52:10.360 i could do whatever yeah i said your magic wand you can implement in a policy you want thank you bill

06:52:15.980 you can implement a policy you know what a policy is right i do know what a policy okay yeah so tell

06:52:22.900 me the policy you hear that part but okay um

06:52:29.340 axibullet donated 69 what if the doctor identified as a woman honestly that's so valid with how you've

06:52:40.240 kind of yeah i was yeah no i don't really i don't really believe if like you understand biology as well

06:52:47.340 as you do because of i don't really understand biology i only again i when i came to america

06:52:52.620 american education system american health care system everything was like i learned more in russia

06:52:59.500 by the age i was 11 than i've learned in america since like what everything like like political i've

06:53:06.720 learned geography a lot better i've learned i've learned english better in russia there's no reason

06:53:13.060 exactly so it's i've learned math better in russia like i have completely stopped why are you still in

06:53:21.200 the united states if you think russia is i do not think russia is better i'm saying it has better

06:53:26.340 education and it has better health care then why are you in america if you want to improve your health

06:53:33.820 because that's not my goal my goal is not to improve my health i thought that was your whole

06:53:39.900 thing that's why you're with your that's why that's why you're with your boyfriend right

06:53:43.580 that's not why i'm with my boyfriend well you said he's not my main reason why you're with him

06:53:48.420 i said we help each other and we understand each other and that understand you guys with their health

06:53:53.880 understanding each other and we do support each other but we're that's not why we're together

06:54:00.040 there's so many why that's definitely one of the reasons but yeah because we actually understand

06:54:04.960 what the other person needs when a person is chronically ill a lot of people tend to go

06:54:11.800 really overboard especially if they don't understand and if you're saying that russian

06:54:17.780 like russia has better health care in general why are you not there why are you in america if you

06:54:24.100 don't want to be in america do you know how much a ticket that costs to russia i can't afford it

06:54:27.980 just get deported your boyfriend can your boyfriend can um no he cannot because he has an

06:54:34.260 amazing beautiful house i will hang on he has a house hey hang on hang on hang on i don't want

06:54:40.380 you i don't want you to get subpar health care so the crucible will foot your ticket back to russia

06:54:46.780 if you promise to stay there why would i stay in russia because you just said that the reason that

06:54:53.740 you don't go there to get the type of health care that you need is because you can't afford a ticket

06:54:58.560 no i said do you know how much a ticket to russia costs because she said you can't go to russia but

06:55:04.960 she also said you didn't want to improve her health so it's like okay i do want to but it's not my main

06:55:09.900 goal because you said it was my main goal but that's not my main goal my main goal is to improve myself

06:55:15.080 as a person and yeah i do not want to stay in america physically or mentally both then spiritually

06:55:21.880 and russia and it's it's everything all together me as a whole being i just want to be better all

06:55:28.880 the time and i'm always growing and evolving and the thing is is that russia is very limiting as a

06:55:36.660 society so stupid and not user and it is actually way more way more misogynistic and russia horrible

06:55:47.160 yeah russia's horrible to women why were you then why were you like saying how amazing it was

06:55:52.220 i didn't say it wasn't when did i say it was amazing like two seconds ago you're like they

06:55:56.420 have better health care they have better health care and better education i didn't say it was amazing

06:56:01.040 that's super weird that under this oppressive patriarchy you get a better education and better

06:56:06.240 women's health care isn't that making the case that here when you have egalitarianism

06:56:11.120 when equality the word that you understand we have a hang on hang on hang on here you have this

06:56:16.560 evil equality and the health care for women is worse but under the patriarchal system the education

06:56:23.880 and the health care for people is much better that's super weird um actually it is really weird and i

06:56:30.960 really don't get it why do in russia i could say in hospitals for months yeah they will not let me out

06:56:38.740 until they're positively sure that they know what's going on you're not insane and hang on a second

06:56:44.280 and most of the doctors and most of the doctors there they're men huh no actually a lot of them are

06:56:50.740 women most of the doctors in russia are men not in the hospital that i was yes okay but most of the

06:56:58.360 doctors in russia are men okay if you say so i do not have most of the administrators are men and it's

06:57:05.140 most definitely a patriarchal society you're saying they care so much about women's health

06:57:09.140 you know they care so much about women's health that they won't even discharge you

06:57:13.520 from the hospital until they're poxed and if that you're okay they wouldn't discharge anybody

06:57:19.140 yeah man this patriarchy thing sounded better and better okay isn't that what they're supposed to do

06:57:24.600 make sure you're okay before they discharge you except they don't do it here here when you go to an

06:57:30.180 emergency they give you a little pill they give you a little bit of the glucose a little bit of

06:57:36.780 the of the hydration and then they send you home yeah it's like they don't even care about women here

06:57:43.100 they don't care about anybody in yeah it's almost like without absent a moral grounded ethical

06:57:48.800 patriarchy that when people think that you're just interchangeable egalitarian widgets nobody gives a

06:57:55.740 fuck about you it's been like that for over 12 years ever since i've come here on a scale of one

06:58:04.040 to ten how crazy are you like a seven what so ten is ten like absolutely how can you be a ten how can

06:58:12.900 you be a ten in everything except i never said i was the ten i said i was you did you say the ten

06:58:19.400 no i said i was a nine she said she doesn't identify as a woman and couldn't define what a

06:58:24.480 woman is so how do woman doctors do better female female and women help you just as much

06:58:31.880 how is female and women different i'm sorry so female anatomy is about the biological sex being a

06:58:39.000 woman is a social construct no it's not um well according according to the trend okay i'm not

06:58:48.140 she's the best person we've ever gotten i'm sorry just and i'm off the street by the way guys like

06:58:54.700 they literally picked me up i was like you guys want you want to do this and i was like i've never

06:58:57.920 heard of you guys before yeah and then i just sat down for the next seven hours this has been

06:59:02.040 actually amazing by the way yeah i would love to hear more of your opinions questions w's in the

06:59:09.440 chat for i'm sorry what's grace grace grace uh w grace in the chat w grace thank you but there's

06:59:19.220 two genders there's men and there's women okay that is that is destroyed destroyed with facts and

06:59:26.440 logic i'm not going to argue with you on that that is your um okay if you want to continue with

06:59:31.580 this i do not want to continue with this as i've said because because again you want to keep

06:59:36.040 talking about like vague medical no i want to know what is everyone else's opinions nobody cares about

06:59:44.240 this one okay nobody cares about this one it's kind of boring okay everyone needs to calm down and

06:59:52.640 stop picking on alex she has already confused herself all evening and can't keep up with what she has

06:59:59.220 already said let alone think logically and stick to reality yeah i work so i so alex um i would say

07:00:06.180 that russian i work that russian education is better what do the russians teach children about gender

07:00:12.360 i was gonna ask somebody literally just said that oh really well the thing is is that in russia

07:00:21.060 i was there what up until fifth grade and i guess we didn't get to the gender part yet but i did

07:00:29.720 dissect three frogs you usually get to be discussed in school whatsoever you usually get to gender in

07:00:36.800 preschool i'm sorry hang on hang on this is so weird this is this is bizarre this is i don't actually

07:00:43.020 understand what age what age what age do you start talking about oh what about like middle school

07:00:49.180 when people start going no because that is the most crucial part of your growing straight into

07:00:54.080 because that's like your most crucial part of growing up and if you start lol paladins donated

07:00:58.520 thirty dollars grace is gen z based or just you

07:01:02.980 i don't know it's also just like russian education so i got this right russian education

07:01:14.920 is better than american education but you only were there till you were in fourth grade or fifth grade

07:01:19.760 fifth grade yes and then when i moved here i jumped three grades wait wait did you go back

07:01:27.220 and repeat one through five in the united states or what no i put that then how the hell would you

07:01:33.820 know that russian education is better than american education why put the hat on it's a fun it puts

07:01:39.900 the hat on or else it gets the hose again i'd rather get the hose what is the hose it's a quote from

07:01:45.500 silence of the lens yeah i would rather get the hose you can skin me i think that's how it goes here

07:01:50.440 can you just put that on let let grace spin it a couple times doran's clean you sure madison cleaned it

07:01:56.680 no one wears it nobody wears no one's ever why are you giving it to me yo teeny sunflower

07:02:01.520 thank you for the uh gifted memberships uh grace it does not look wait wait just keep it going

07:02:08.300 just let her spin it a few times okay

07:02:10.760 i feel bad no i don't i don't know and and you know what it's it's okay but again i'm here to

07:02:20.900 understand it does what it's great i want to understand how you can say that russia has a

07:02:28.480 better education system when you're only there to until fifth grade and then you go on to qualify

07:02:34.440 that the reason you don't know what they teach about gender and things that you learn here in

07:02:38.920 the united states is because you're only there till fifth grade but somehow it's still a better education

07:02:43.740 system i don't understand that and also if you're only there until fifth grade when you're talking about

07:02:49.560 the medical care that you received there you were a fucking little kid yes i was i was in

07:02:55.060 hospitals so what are you what is the comparison here that russians treat little children better

07:03:00.240 than americans um actually well yes i thought you said you couldn't talk about children because you

07:03:07.720 don't have children i didn't say you couldn't talk about children a i'm talking about my own

07:03:14.140 experience as a child that was in the hospital i'm not talking about other children and b i did say

07:03:19.500 you can have opinions about whatever however including yourself in the argument about something

07:03:26.300 that you're not a part of which you're not a part of either so you don't have any children i do not

07:03:34.060 have children so it's like i you know i can do whatever i want um

07:03:39.340 i'm sorry again i'm just i'm i'm tired i haven't slept uh we're gonna do a roast a roast segment i

07:03:47.940 guess i don't think there's really much else to uh talk about if you guys want to get a couple

07:03:51.200 roasts in we'll uh we'll do that uh okay thank you if you want i am very brain guys tts is 30 if

07:03:59.240 you want the roast of russia tonight the russian roast russian please this is fun the russian

07:04:06.720 roast maybe it'll wake me up though here's the thing guys we can't end the stream until uh

07:04:11.360 mel over here sings the australian national anthem so go ahead and there's less people here so it's

07:04:16.880 less embarrassing no damn what the fuck rude i'm disappointed i'm not i'm not mad i'm just

07:04:26.600 disappointed that's worse i'm just disappointed now i say you should sing it first so she knows

07:04:32.780 like what she won't do it though it's the but how do you know do you know the first and second verse

07:04:36.800 oh oh yeah i do i don't believe you i don't know about i don't think any of us believe you

07:04:41.500 gaslight isn't real yeah you guys are i don't know the russian one

07:04:47.200 no i don't i don't know the uh russian one uh i can just speak it and maybe i don't sing it since

07:04:56.240 mel won't join me it's uh australians all let us rejoice for it doesn't be river donated 30

07:05:04.020 dollars cult lady you're in charge of customs at the airport do you allow crazy russian girl and if

07:05:10.360 she can't answer what a woman is well i've been allowed in through customs several times so

07:05:17.160 nick six donated 30 dollars w in the chat for grace alongside andrew you are the best that has

07:05:25.000 graced this podcast oh that's so sweet thank you so much you're so kind that just made me

07:05:30.720 thank you uh lol paladins donated 30 dollars the russian supreme court banned the lgbtq movement

07:05:38.960 as an extremist organization russians are smart they deported their worst i have i have seen

07:05:46.800 crazy stuff law paladins stop you're gonna get me canceled bro i've seen crazy stuff in russia

07:05:52.700 they're very hateful people towards certain minorities so we're not gonna talk about the

07:05:58.680 i'm not trying to get uh augmented or just donated 31 dollars how does a russian immigrant become

07:06:07.820 more brainwashed by western woke ideology than those born and raised here wild oh we didn't do the

07:06:13.600 yet somehow as good as russia is western ideology seems better to you do you want to answer that

07:06:21.020 i was always this way i always argued with every single person ever since i was a little kid she

07:06:26.180 always argued with everybody yeah all the time all the time i did that's why i was so unhappy

07:06:32.720 is being argumentative yeah oh and like i mean on the show it's good in a relationship not so much

07:06:40.260 which is really funny because i don't ever argue in any of my relationships

07:06:44.580 well yeah that's because there's 70 in wheelchairs

07:06:50.500 what the fuck he's 53 excuse you and and the last show you actually called both of us disabled which

07:06:57.840 i do not appreciate by the way because we do not get disability by the united states well you could

07:07:04.860 still be are you disabled there's also mental disabilities too let's not which i am not chronically

07:07:11.280 disabled by the standards of the united states the united states does not consider you need a government

07:07:16.760 to be disabled i didn't know that was you can identify people need to be told except i do not

07:07:22.600 identify as a disabled i do not identify as a disabled i'm i'm mentally disabled identify it's

07:07:30.500 just so astonishing to me that people can be like i identify as this you can't tell me otherwise

07:07:34.800 no there's facts and then there's not okay so you think i'm disabled i have absolutely no idea

07:07:40.280 exactly so i never called you disabled or not so then how is it crazy it was just funny how you said

07:07:45.720 you're like i identify it's i i don't identify as a disabled that's what i said what do you mean

07:07:52.880 i'm a disabled i what do you mean you people what do you mean you people what huh andrew make that

07:08:01.260 face you made last show lol paladins donated 30 dollars this woman i'm sorry it's got to be

07:08:06.980 as one has made me memorize proverbs 25 24 andrew do you know this one thank you lol paladins

07:08:15.040 thank you thank you yeah so so i'll do a first champagne pop you'll do the face that you made

07:08:19.880 i didn't even see it last oh it was good he did it three times i would love to see his face i don't

07:08:25.060 know what's happening i would love to see uh i'm pretty sure we gotta put that as an emote on our

07:08:30.000 discord and twitch you should have it as like one of those like things you should just have it be

07:08:34.500 you're misspelling my name by the way the same logic alex had earlier to basketball americans in

07:08:42.360 regards to them talking about white americans or white privilege w grace

07:08:47.420 because you're the most wholesome and based

07:08:50.620 the most wholesome and basest of the basest

07:08:55.000 pineapple does belong on pizza stand on that stand on that now you're not allowed

07:09:02.700 did you say it does belong on pizza it does it does get the fuck out of this studio

07:09:10.100 yeah just get up just get out of the studio right now what do you mean it belongs on pizza

07:09:14.860 and then discuss you want to buy me pizza you know your base card revoked

07:09:20.400 wait no it's okay people here i'll say this people have their own opinions they're they're

07:09:28.520 entitled to what they want i identify as a pizza pineapple lover personally i also add a little

07:09:34.880 bit of bacon on top of there oh my god it's perfect with some tomatoes i'm what the hell i like

07:09:41.640 tomatoes are always on pizza um remind tomatoes are always on pizza by the way remind me for next

07:09:48.900 time andrew's in studio live we will have a pineapple pizza on the set just for him and can i please

07:09:57.080 come andrew the there's going to be a stream labs dono for every for every trigger you have to eat a

07:10:04.160 slice of pineapple pizza an entire slice not even a bite sound good andrew

07:10:08.780 reap what you so donated thirty dollars grace was winning all

07:10:13.560 even then she had to ruin the entire evening by saying that pineapple belong on pizza

07:10:18.620 what a horrible panelist you know guys absolute failure in every possible way everything that

07:10:24.040 was said we donated thirty dollars if that's the worst thing big fan of the show and i don't think

07:10:29.920 you get enough credit for keeping your cool and mediating when you need to i agree you and andrew

07:10:34.860 are always entertaining while i work my 16 hours shift keep i mean i lose my cool dude but low-key

07:10:42.080 i don't know how like no like no hatred towards anyone but like how do you keep your cool that

07:10:47.500 much like it's just like he doesn't really i think you're just like numb it's just you just do it in

07:10:51.960 like a funny way you like well i guess you get relaxed i get tilted you walk away for like two

07:10:57.980 minutes and then you're like no i didn't walk away for like 10 minutes not two um how do i i mean i

07:11:03.980 don't do i keep because i definitely lose it especially at the beginning but then you come

07:11:10.040 down into it and you easily i lose it for like five percent of the show and then for the rest i'm

07:11:14.980 i do well let's keep that's how you keep it real i guess you could say i mean that's just like

07:11:18.980 you that's it well you're having fun huh like you could you you could lose it a lot more but you

07:11:23.920 lose it really well like you managed it donated 30 dollars grace fails on pineapple in other news

07:11:31.540 biden versus his own cerebral cortex trump versus a bullet maga wins all right the pagan thank you man

07:11:38.760 that is true can you guys stop paying on me for my pineapple and my pizza please i didn't think

07:11:43.960 mental illness was communicable but she's only been sitting on that side of the table for like

07:11:48.940 10 minutes i know like 10 minutes and doesn't like fine or wants pineapple on pizza suddenly so

07:11:55.640 yes it is clearly communicable the mental let me go back to my chair this side of the table

07:12:00.800 donated 30 dollars grace should be on the friday stream with maddie and morgan then it can be the

07:12:07.820 mgm grand stream i'm down tomorrow right you guys are doing the stream tomorrow i think so yeah you

07:12:13.560 are you free tomorrow what's tomorrow oh wait are you gonna do a stream because nick's gonna be

07:12:17.700 gone oh we'll talk about it you're gone tomorrow give me guys the socials and we can well we'll talk

07:12:22.040 we'll figure it out after the show for guys on twitch uh maddie and morgan maddie and morgan

07:12:27.880 have been doing uh solo chill streams where they just we played charades yesterday it was so much

07:12:32.980 fun yesterday actually yeah it's not like a panel it's pretty it's just us too that's

07:12:36.980 girl girl time it was actually really fun yesterday girl time um wait brian's limp roller

07:12:44.840 donated 30 finally we haven't had my sprinkler goes like this

07:12:48.400 and comes back like this

07:12:55.960 why was the math book sad because it had too many problems no

07:13:02.460 that was a good point though maddie i i lose it but i'm not like full-on like you yeah you could

07:13:12.560 rage but like you lose it you manage you manage it well i'm clearly upset but it's not like i'm

07:13:19.320 yelling not like you effing b-word like i don't have like veins popping out of my neck and forehead

07:13:26.800 like i thought you did the other day last time i was did i have the no morgan you remember when he

07:13:33.860 had like something blue oh yeah you had something blue and i thought it was morgan was like morgan was

07:13:38.940 like what is that and i was like are his veins popping no oh it's from those other cups the ink

07:13:44.820 from the uh oh the blue does it come off it rubs off so i thought i saw a vein popping but that's

07:13:51.020 why you grab it yeah uh oh sorry there's like a super noisy truck passing by right now guys

07:14:02.500 uh if you want to get your last few minutes last few rows and we're going to wrap up the show pretty

07:14:07.160 soon uh i think we should end it on the bow video i wanted to do the patrice video but like the girls

07:14:13.480 who would have been good for it they left so damn what's the patrice video just show it anyways

07:14:18.860 you'll have to find out some other time all right let's see it this is what i want in a woman

07:14:23.220 oh boom huge bow there goes my slippers obviously this is actually me by the way this i'm this is a

07:14:30.860 big reveal this is me in the video that's actually my ex-girlfriend we broke up oh i thought you

07:14:36.600 meant like that was yeah the woman i identify as a woman there you go that's what you can say

07:14:44.140 i don't know that's my penthouse you know she pours my beer for me stirs my noodles with chopsticks

07:14:50.020 but because that's what i use and uh yeah so um and you speak that language obviously right yeah

07:14:56.480 yeah yeah uh play one more time let's see the bow boom huge massive very respectable yeah so going

07:15:05.400 around the table would you bow for your man it depends on the context the context is hi i'm your

07:15:11.680 man bow for me no okay i wouldn't say that but i would never fucking say that if a kinky way i would

07:15:19.860 i would just get on your hands and knees just let me see a bow hit it hit the bow

07:15:26.040 we're not exchanging in the kinky situation we haven't had the proper talk yet

07:15:32.120 uh the average brian 30 minutes into a podcast holy shit what the frick uh uh come on the

07:15:40.640 you got pre-show notes i'm tilted yes i would say brian handles stress pretty well

07:15:45.800 compared to uh i don't think so

07:15:48.920 i don't i don't know i think you handle it in the way that's respectable for the podcast do you

07:15:55.360 meditate for the first time ever i'm self-aware also andrew i'm not last show a girl kept

07:16:04.620 interrupting and i did i lost my cool i told her to shut the f up told her to shut the f up

07:16:11.700 i said it in the nice can you just oh i yeah it's always better if it's a question i don't i always

07:16:18.720 i asked it in the question it makes it nicer and um except to no but look i'm not uh i i can take

07:16:26.940 accountability i should not have told her to shut the f up andrew thinks it was just fine he was

07:16:33.840 like good on you brian good job he liked it how well here's the thing right again schrodinger's

07:16:41.760 feminist badass boss babe epic in every way oh no you said shut the f up my feelings are hurt

07:16:49.380 and it's like well you know you really can't have it both ways here i think that uh if you're

07:16:56.200 argumentative and you're being a brat something like this someone tells you to shut the f up who

07:17:01.240 cares yeah and it goes both ways and that's the it does go both ways of it yeah i've been called

07:17:08.160 every horrible name you can think of on this show and i've never rage quit it yeah oh um let's see

07:17:14.480 well the other thing is she claimed to be a stoic right and the stoic would not leave actually it's

07:17:21.240 not clear to me actually watching it back if it was because i said that or the blue the girl in the

07:17:26.480 blue dress was just absolutely digging into her it might have been that i think it was i think it was

07:17:32.820 that more maybe it was a amalgamation of things that contributed to it guys i have a i have a

07:17:40.100 wedding ring right here whoever sends in the next chat can gets to choose who i propose to so here it

07:17:48.020 is you send in the chat you get to say brian proposed to this person i cannot propose to a man though so

07:17:54.860 don't make me propose to andrew or nick or desmond sorry for your loss guys or alex wow okay thank

07:18:04.940 because she's not she you're a you're a they are you a they or i i i go by anything you can i call

07:18:13.740 you a he i had people call me but i mean i'm wearing a dress am i presenting as a i just want to respect

07:18:19.980 your pronouns i i are aquatic donated 30 dollars brian can't get married it's still open i could

07:18:27.420 still propose to somebody he does have a ring everybody do have a ring do have a ring uh you

07:18:33.820 know what i'll propose to you if you sing the australian catholic girl donated 30 dollars

07:18:39.260 much love from australia thank you for the weekly entertainment andrew huge fan but curious as to why

07:18:47.100 you think australia is fake ha ha ha vexzith donated 30 dollars thank you the shot was fired at

07:18:55.020 6 11 pm ephesians 6 11 put on the armor of god so that you may be able to stand firm against the

07:19:02.060 tactics of the devil also brian proposed grace yeah you know uh but but it wasn't 6 11 everywhere

07:19:12.300 right it was only 6 11 in whatever place you're saying it was 6 11 i'm just i'm just want to point

07:19:18.140 this out to you that you know there's that fact so there is nuance yeah i never said that things

07:19:26.700 aren't nuanced i said everything's not nuanced well i didn't say every single your literal words were

07:19:33.500 everything is nuanced those were your actual literal words everything is single thing that ever exists

07:19:41.180 is not nuanced look at that shoulder vascularity i don't know there's a little bit of nuance there

07:19:46.860 vascularity i'm trying you know that scene from american psycho where he's like looking at the

07:19:52.620 business card and he's like the i i don't know andrew have you seen american psycho it's like yeah he's

07:20:00.540 like the the card stock the the thickness of it the vascularity of the shoulder okay i donated 30

07:20:21.420 sup grace oh my god i majored in math and philosophy we could use some russian cultural influence here

07:20:28.380 except kids peeing in public even my cats know to use the litter box oh my god i hate when people

07:20:35.180 pee in public that's a very big problem oh yeah i forgot vex it said i have to propose to grace so uh

07:20:41.340 okay uh how does it open yeah you can't even drink at your own wedding okay uh you're proposing

07:20:48.540 everyday prison i have to wait until the city has to stop love you brian andrew this is for you

07:20:53.980 briefly what is your view on unclean foods such as pork and what do you think of christians that

07:20:59.740 follow these dietary rules uh what do you mean unclean foods such as pork there was a complete

07:21:06.620 reconciliation on this uh i love personally i love bacon and i love pepperoni and i love basically

07:21:14.220 everything that's made out of pork i'm a big fan of you know if there's if there's pig somehow ground

07:21:21.260 up and thrown into it probably gonna taste better i agree with you on that yeah all right uh okay

07:21:27.900 proposal time robbie heck music donated thirty dollars christ is god all right robbie heck music

07:21:35.580 thank you man appreciate it appreciate it uh okay hurry grace gertrude oh don't do me dirty like

07:21:48.220 that you didn't be so dirty with that saxon what the last name is that um will you marry me take me on a

07:21:58.700 date first then maybe it wasn't like can i say no i'm kidding boom okay um there you go i'm now

07:22:07.340 well i'm not married but engaged potentially it's a mate it was it's a maybe i got there i

07:22:14.140 got to jump through hoops yeah all right so is she gonna get the ring or no because i don't want i don't

07:22:20.460 want the ring gotta show me you want me all right there you go see you have to try harder

07:22:28.860 okay all right i think we're gonna wrap the show there actually no we have to stay here until like

07:22:35.980 3 a.m until she does the australian national anthem i'm sorry guys it's not happening i'm kidding i'm

07:22:41.580 kidding okay uh we're gonna do twitch raid and then we need to raid andrew too andrew i'm gonna get that

07:22:46.940 set up so you're gonna stream for a little longer yeah andrew i i do have to uh wrap it a little

07:22:53.020 early i'm finishing a couple things up i do apologize to whatever podcast that i was a little

07:22:57.180 bit late tonight okay um i i had some uh some other things which were going on but uh i was able to make

07:23:04.060 the show donated 30 dollars the average man will not keep his cool throughout six to eight hours

07:23:09.980 listening to occasional nonsense dot you lash out mildly compared to others the girls that get under your

07:23:16.700 skin deserve to be put in place doctor show i could have paladins donated 30 dollars women

07:23:24.140 make rules for beaters and they agree to marry alphas they just met somebody in the twitch chat says i

07:23:30.700 get mad at the girls who are late but andrew andrew he says all good too well first off andrew let me

07:23:36.540 know far ahead of time and me and andrew have an ongoing uh a relationship essentially and he's told me

07:23:42.860 that occasionally there will be instances where he will be running late in any case i the show ran

07:23:48.940 perfectly smooth smoothly prior to andrew coming and uh it was great to have him while he was here but

07:23:55.420 yeah andrew gave me quite a bit of advance notice that he was going to be late and he's also a call in

07:24:01.340 too which is a little different and he also stayed the whole time yeah i was gonna say he stayed the whole

07:24:07.500 time so andrew did you have to uh take off now or yeah i do but uh guys i really appreciate it

07:24:13.580 it was very nice to meet all of you um it was nice to meet you even alex okay alex it was fun to spar

07:24:19.420 back and forth with you you know you have a good time on this podcast you know you do but anyway i

07:24:24.860 appreciate it very much guys and uh have a wonderful night have a good night thank you for coming

07:24:30.300 oh andrew if you're able to do a oops can you do a raid oh can you do a raid to us or awesome yeah

07:24:36.780 yeah of course oh awesome sweet thank you andrew appreciate it and uh guys check out the crucible

07:24:42.940 youtube.com slash i actually don't know the exact url but it's the crucible on youtube

07:24:49.660 um and drop in the subscribe guys the fastest growing debate channel on youtube with the great

07:24:57.420 andrew wilson uh blood sports debater so uh be sure to follow him everywhere that you can

07:25:04.060 on twitch we're going to do a raid give me just one moment to get that set up who do we have

07:25:09.180 we have whoa grandma oh man oh man the name is really funny because i was actually called several

07:25:19.580 times by several people that i'm a voice of reason so i just think that's a little bit erroneous

07:25:25.180 i'm sorry you just said you're the voice of reason i have been called that by several people

07:25:31.100 which is i just i just thought that was very funny yeah i know i don't get it either

07:25:37.420 she said it first yeah no i i don't get it i just whatever i feel is whatever

07:25:44.700 i was literally called that in someone else's contacts the name for me was the voice of reason

07:25:50.940 but that person was crazier than i was okay no because again that that person was way crazier

07:25:58.060 than i was all right okay uh so let me do my little outro stuff here those colors are not let me do

07:26:03.980 the outro stuff gg well played to the panel last call hit the like button please on your way out

07:26:09.420 thank you for tuning in tonight you could then anyone in the world but you're here with me i

07:26:12.140 appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats donates and supports the show we'll be live

07:26:15.260 again to sorry thank you to everyone who super chats donates and supports the show we will be live

07:26:19.900 again to tomorrow on twitch with morgan madison and grace gertrude saxon wonderful yep there you go

07:26:32.860 guys and uh i think uh that's uh oh yeah and then we'll be back dating talk sunday tuesday any girls

07:26:41.180 who want to be on the show dm out whatever on instagram if you can make it to san barbara oh

07:26:46.380 seven's in the chat let me get this raid going on twitch yeah you can pull up whoa whoa oh guys if

07:26:53.180 you're still over there on twitch with us drop us a follow boys if you like if you like the content

07:26:58.140 that we do all i ask is for a little follow in the in the layer uh drops a prime sub if you have

07:27:05.020 one it's been 15 minutes since we've had a prime i think it's bugged can you guys just test out

07:27:09.100 a prime sub i think it's bugged help help help help help thank you thank you thank you that's

07:27:15.020 what i was looking for uh i think it's bugged so help just help us check if it's still bugged

07:27:19.820 uh pull up oh grandma she's playing world of warcraft she's she's 82 boys so be nice

07:27:27.260 she's playing world of warcraft i'm gonna start the raid in 10 seconds thank you all who watch on

07:27:31.340 twitch really appreciate it we have twitch exclusive streams and uh those are lovely so be sure to check

07:27:38.860 those out okay raid going now thank you guys for watching on twitch hope you guys have good night

07:27:43.100 so i have all the healers level to 70. i used to heal with all of them but

07:27:50.940 so precious

07:27:55.580 hey what whatever is the back hello everybody from whatever

07:28:01.420 welcome

07:28:10.140 well she's playing retail so i don't know about retail but six druids god that's a lot of druids

07:28:17.260 okay all right hope she has a good stream and then a final thing here did the tts from

07:28:23.740 little paladins come through about the make rule for betas yeah that one came through okay i love

07:28:29.180 raw thank you was there anything else i feel like we're forgetting something

07:28:37.180 forgetting something uh

07:28:41.740 oh okay anyways i think that i feel like there was a follower of yours and a long-time listener who has

07:28:50.620 asked me several questions to ask and i've sent it to you guys i don't know if you've seen it

07:28:56.860 i'm not asking about it now oh to ask us yeah like you and andrew like and like your opinions

07:29:02.700 uh you maybe should have brought that up a little no no no i i i just remember and this and i'm not

07:29:10.060 again i'm not saying to talk about it now i'm just of course of course uh okay guys

07:29:15.100 uh oh sevens and what are we forgetting i swear we're forgetting something let's see

07:29:22.540 morgan do you want to sing the u.s national anthem

07:29:25.900 no okay cool all right guys uh oh sevens in the chat i hope you guys have a good night

07:29:30.940 up ripped rich and rare donated thirty dollars brian what dirt does fat boy andrew have on you

07:29:37.740 i'm convinced since it looks like you can't do a podcast without the big titty single mom simp

07:29:43.340 grow a pap bro okay um that was out of pocket thanks well yeah yeah but i mean we were doing

07:29:51.340 the show for three hours without andrew and i thought it was a good convo i agree uh so obviously

07:29:56.620 it's always nice to have andrew here he was more civil it look it's it's it's always like

07:30:02.780 it's good to have any other guy just because then it's like not one v seven so i can at least like

07:30:08.940 i can at least get up i feel like i can get out of my seat i can move around uh whereas if i'm just

07:30:14.940 one v sevening one sevening is that a word no it's hard anyways guys we do have to wrap the show

07:30:21.660 uh oh sevens in the chat i hope you all have a wonderful night thank you to everyone who supported

07:30:25.740 the show tonight be sure to tune in twitch.tv slash whatever tomorrow around what 3 p.m 4 p.m you

07:30:30.940 guys are going to stream i think maybe earlier if we can okay uh the matty morgan the m&m

07:30:38.620 solo chill stream maybe with grace potentially joining if i don't work

07:30:42.220 so uh all right guys i hope you guys have a good night and we'll see you next time good night guys

Whatever Podcast - July 18, 2024

She Is Dating 15 Men？! 100+ Body Counts？! Brian LOSES It (GETS TILTED)？! E-GIRLS! ｜ Dating Talk #179

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