Twins RAGE QUIT？! She Called Her BF A BlATCH？! Toxic Girl ADMITS To Abuse？! ｜ Dating Talk #178
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7 hours and 45 minutes
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In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, host Brian Atlas sits down with Azara Blake and Jess to talk about their experience as full-time runway models and what it's like being a woman in a male-dominated industry like the fashion industry.
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ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So please tell us your name, age,
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location, and occupation. Go ahead. My name is Jess. I am 36. I live in Calabasas, but I'm a marketing
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director for a plastic surgery office in Newport Beach that specializes in gynecomastia.
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All right. And your clientele is primarily men, is that correct? Yeah. What's the, you said,
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I think in your pre-show notes, you indicated 80%? Yeah. Men? Okay. All right. What about you?
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Hi, my name is Azaira Blake. I am 20 years old. I currently live in Hollywood, California,
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and my occupation that I'm working on right now is being a full-time runway model.
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Full-time runway model. Okay. Are you in school right now, did you say? I am in school.
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What are you studying? I'm studying business administration,
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and I want to major in accounting. Okay. I see. You're an aspiring runway model.
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Yes. Have you practiced your walk? I always practice my walk. People are very much irritated
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with me because all I do is practice my walk. All you do is practice the walk. Okay. All right.
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You got it down pretty good, or are we going to get a demo? Should we get a demo? I don't know.
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There's probably not enough space, unfortunately, but cool, cool. What about you?
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My name is Sonia Chiani, better known as Forever Untamed. I'm allegedly 40. I do identify as 27 to 32,
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depending on the day. I'm from Orange County, a celebrity makeup artist, hairstylist,
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and I do own a salon, and just venturing into women empowerment coaching and relaunching my podcast.
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It's all very confusing. And you said, so what do you do for the empower? How do you empower?
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So it goes from accountability to self-awareness, and I help them to be the best version of themselves.
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So whether it's relationship advice, whether it's career, whatever it is, it's that guidance.
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Through my journey, I help them be their best version of themselves.
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I see. Okay. And what, is it like a counseling type thing where you sit down with them in person,
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Well, it's more phone calls. So I kind of launched it recently. So I've been doing it more so
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sporadically, but officially. So I have an initial call to see if that's something that I can help
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them with. So they fill out a questionnaire, and just kind of see, assess if someone's serious.
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What is it that I can help them? If it's something that I can definitely help them, then
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I bring them on, and we kind of plan out, you know, a 30-, 60-, 90-day, like, game plan of what
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we need to do, and then kind of go from there. So...
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I'd, just real quick, there was one quick point of clarification I wanted. Did you say
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you helped them through because of your journey?
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So what I've gone through, like life, I guess, I've been through a lot of different things,
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and I feel like social media, I've helped a lot of women through being open and vulnerable
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with everything that I go through. So it's more so advice for women. So it's a safe space for
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women that they can come, you know, I've, I don't know if you can say DV, domestic violence.
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Yeah. And you teach them accountability? You said that?
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It depends what they're needing. So it honestly depends on what they need, whether if it's
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a relationship. So I have a couple of girls that are going through relationships that are
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kind of stuck, or some that are trying to figure out what they want to do with their next steps
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of life. So honestly, it depends. So I'm there for whatever they need, and if it's something
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that I truly think that I can help them with, then I take them on. If I can't, then I don't.
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I kind of give them the advice that I can, or maybe give them, refer them to other people
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that I may know in the business. But yeah, it's still pretty brand new. So I'm still honing
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it in, but it's exciting because it's been something that I've been doing on social media
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basically for free. Because I say my passion is people as makeup artists. I love to make women
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feel beautiful and have their inner and outer beauty match. And so when I'm able to do that,
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as I said, people are my passion. And making them, helping change the world is my mission,
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like being the best version of themselves. So I don't know. It's kind of a fun adventure.
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I don't know the answers yet. It's Andrew, right? I don't know them yet, but we're figuring
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It is an adventure. It's an adventure of growth together. I think that's a thing that as me,
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as a perfectionist, I usually have a tendency to perfect things before I start them. So this
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one, I'm like, you know what? We're going to start it. I'm going to perfect it as I grow.
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So I'm going to grow as a coach and my clients are going to help me grow. So it's an exciting
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All right. Well, good luck with the exciting adventure.
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How much do you typically charge for a session or whatever?
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Well, right now I'm kind of doing more consoles. Like I'll do like 15, 30 minute,
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just like phone call for free. And then just depends on what they need. So before I was charging
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250 for like an hour session to sit down. So it just depends what the program is. But for typically
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I, what I have it now, it's like a 90 day kind of coaching for 1500 bucks. So it includes, you know,
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weekly zoom calls. They have access to me through text. So I'm basically available to them at all
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times, but they have that one. So we call if they need more than that, then they can reach out.
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And then I, uh, I have here in my notes that you have OnlyFans for makeup.
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I had one. I had not anymore though. Okay. And you were just posting, uh,
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I was posting makeup stuff on when the, during, um, the lockdown, I think when they were trying
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to steer away from the sex work, they reached out for makeup artists, hairstylists. So they
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were the one that actually reached out to me. They made a promo video for me. So they promoted
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the makeup, the hair fitness enthusiasts. So what I was doing is posting.
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Wait, when you say they, are you talking about OnlyFans corporate or some like third party?
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So they made a promo video for me for makeup, hair. I think it's still on Twitter. If you go
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look for it, but, um, and then I would post sexy photo shoots too that I have.
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I think it's, uh, underscore for everyone tamed. I'm very bad at that.
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I just walked into something. Dun, dun, dun. All right. I'll see what kind of dirt I can
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find. Uh, well, okay. I didn't find, I didn't find anything, but all right. Um, moving on.
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Um, my name is Summer. Um, I'm an educational speaker as well as a model and I love to be
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in film, short films and, um, I really love what she's doing. I feel like me and my twin
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sister are on a similar path where we empower people to be their better selves. And through the
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education and knowledge that I've learned throughout my life, as well as in my culture
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and history, um, that I like to empower people and educate them on how to become their best
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Sure. Can I have you, uh, laptop came out of nowhere. Can I have you tilt your mic down
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24. All right. Uh, any history of OF or anything like that?
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Um, well, me and my sister were called the Severa twins, but my name is Sarah.
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Um, we live in Los Angeles, California. We are, um, models in LA, but we are young entrepreneurs
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as well. Um, we just launched our new, uh, clothing brand, Severa. Um, and then we also
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are educational speakers as well. So, and I'm, we were 24, 30 seconds older.
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Age would be the same. Uh, okay. Both 24. When you say educational speaker, what do you?
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Um, so when we go on, um, different platforms, uh, we tend to love to talk about things that
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are factually educational for the community and also just the world. Like there's just
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a lot of people spreading false education in the world and a lot of like fake mentorship
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and motivation. So I just like to go off of a factual basis and just statistically prove
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a point with like pure knowledge. And I think that the world is going the opposite direction.
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Hi, I'm Janara. I'm 19. I'm from Fullerton, California. I attend Cal State Fullerton as a
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business major concentrating in accounting, and I'm also a party promoter.
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Party promoter. Okay. And are you in a sorority?
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Do they, do they have, uh, Greek orgs at Cal State Fullerton?
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And you're a party promoter. Is that, I'm assuming that's in Fullerton or?
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Okay. And so, uh, does that involve you also going to the parties?
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Cool. Cool. All right. How long you been doing that for?
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Half a year. Okay. And you're going into your junior year or sophomore year?
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I'm Sam. I'm 22 years old. I'm from Boise, Idaho,
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All right. Uh, Idaho. Have you always lived there?
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Um, I grew up mostly in Salt Lake City, lived in Alaska for a few years,
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All right. Okay. I think you might be our first.
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I think you have. I saw one girl on one episode. Yeah.
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Uh, okay. Not the first, but okay. Cool. What about you?
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My name's Naomi. I am also from Boise, Idaho. I'm 27, and I own a salon.
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Oh, and related. Okay. And sisters. All right. And, uh, okay. And what about you?
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Uh, my name's Liz. I live in Ventura County, and I own a car wrapping business.
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25. You own a car wrapping business. Do you do the actual wrapping yourself, or do you have, like, a team?
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We take, like, the bumpers off, the door handles, the mirror caps, et cetera. Redo everything. It's not just wraps, though.
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I do, I refuse to take off any bumpers or anything on, like, McLarens and stuff like that, because I don't want that liability on my business, so I hire that out.
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But for, like, Beamers, Mercedes, daily vehicles, I'll do all that.
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My name is Andrew Wilson. I'm the host of The Crucible. It is, to my knowledge, the fastest-growing debate channel on YouTube.
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I'm a political analyst, a political satirist, and occasionally like to engage in debates.
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All right. Welcome, Andrew. Welcome, everybody.
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Going around the table once more, what is everybody's current relationship status?
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So, are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex, cult, harem, whatever it may be?
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If you're single, how long have you been single, and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in, starting with you? Go ahead.
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So, I'm currently married. Longest relationship I've ever been in was eight years.
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I've been married for two years, but I've been with them for five now.
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He's a TV host for a dog show on CBS. Have we heard of it?
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What about you? Wait, is he like a dog whisperer? Like, is he a dog trainer?
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Yeah, he does dog training. We do service, or we, I just snuggle the dogs, but he does service dogs.
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Does he like correct dogs that behave really poorly?
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I am currently single. I have been for about three years now. My first relationship, I've only ever had one boyfriend, and we dated for about two to three years.
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If you ask him, he might say something different, but we were together for a very long time.
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Wait, what do you mean he might say something different?
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Because we broke up with each other, and then he moved on, and I still liked him, but he would still, like, make me feel wanted almost, so it was hard for me to move on for a very long time.
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So I feel like we were still together, even though we broke up, but on his part, I think he had a new girlfriend, probably five girlfriends, I don't know.
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There's this Mitch Hedberg joke. It goes something along the lines of, I don't have a girlfriend, but I know a girl who'd be mad at me if she heard me say that.
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I think I kind of put, I think I got it about right, but in any case, so you were more so in the relationship than he was?
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Okay, and it was two to three years, on again, off again, kind of?
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Minors, maybe, like, ten, but it was only for, like, five minutes, and we were like, okay, I love you, sorry.
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Okay, and so more often than not, who was initiating the off?
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It was always me, because he would want to text other women in front of me or talk to other women in front of me, so I would break up with him, and I would break up with him every single time, but then I would also be the one to pull us back together.
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So you would break up with him, but then also reach back out to get, yeah.
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If I were to ask him, like, are you cheating on me?
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Like, it would take him a while to get the final answer, but when he finally would tell me, he would tell me exactly what happened and why, I don't want to name his name, but he was adopted, and so he would always give me the same excuse and tell me that, like, he's looking for his mom and a woman, and I would have to deal with that.
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Yeah, I was dealing with that for a very long time.
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Looking for his mom and multiple women, it sounds like.
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Like, and so, okay, so, but, I mean, was he up front with you that he didn't want monogamy?
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No, he was very much like, you cannot be with anyone else, but I'm going to be with other people.
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But so, if he was up front with you that he was going to be seeing other girls, was it really cheating?
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It was cheating, because we were in a relationship.
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Right, you were in a relationship where he could see other women, and you couldn't see other men.
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It was just that he was expressing to me what he was doing, because I knew that something wasn't right.
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Well, okay, did you guys at any point have an actual overt conversation about, hey, this is exclusive, we're not seeing other people?
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But you said that he said that he was going to be seeing other girls, and he wanted you to just be seeing him.
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It was because he had a lot of personal issues.
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So, he was literally looking for a mother, a mother figure, and any woman that he could be with.
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So, it was like he was holding on to me, because he knew that's where his heart lied, but he was also looking for more of himself in other women.
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But he was up front with you that this was, he was seeing other women, right?
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I dealt with it because I loved him, and it was cheating, because I loved him.
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But if you loved him, but if he told you, I'm down to see you, but I want this to be like essentially an open relationship.
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I mean, that's as farther along as we got, that's more of what it turned into.
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Like exactly what you said, it did not start off like that.
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So, when it did get to that point, that's when I finally pulled back, because he was expressing like, I'm going to be with other people.
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Right, but you said each time you broke up with him was because he was involved with another woman.
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But then, despite knowing that he would be involved with other women, you would accept him.
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I felt like he was the only person who would love me.
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I felt like he was the only person who would love me, and I'm very much attached to someone who I've become comfortable with.
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It's hard for me to readjust to people, so that's why I would deal with it, because I didn't want to have to readjust to someone else.
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But I mean, if he kind of said, and I'm not saying that I agree with the kind of arrangement that he had going on, but if he tells you, I'm going to be seeing other women, and then you break up with him, but then you go back to him without some sort of ultimatum of, you can't do that anymore.
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Or just by virtue of you reaching back out to him would seem to indicate, at least to him, that you are now, you are willing to be in a relationship with him despite his, I don't even categorize it as cheating, but despite him seeing other women.
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Right, but if you, if you, okay, so you would have to, there would have to be an establishment that he wouldn't, for you to continue seeing him, he can't see other girls.
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But you'd go back to him despite his representations to you.
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I feel like that's the establishment when you become in a relationship with someone.
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When you become in a relationship, you establish that you're only going to be with that person.
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So I'm trying to like break up with him because he wants to be with other people, but I also love him.
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So I go back to him and I'm like, we can't do this anymore.
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He would be honest to me about what happened, but then he would keep doing it.
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So it wasn't like, well, honestly, yes, I do know what I was getting myself into, but I also feel like I was hoping for the best at the same time.
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I mean, he told you, he told you, it's like, but what do you expect?
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You, you break up with him, but then you go back to him, but he's already communicated to you that he's going to be sleeping with other chicks.
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So by you going back to him, that's your accepting, that's essentially you accepting his terms.
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If he was, okay, if he was reaching back out to you, he's like, babe, I'm sorry, let's be together.
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But you going back to him, I imagine it wasn't under, like, there wasn't a ultimatum where, well, you're reaching back out to him, but I'll only get back with you if you're not sleeping with other girls.
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But at the same time, I was more focused on being back with them than what he was doing.
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Because the type of person I am, I really don't, like, I know this sounds bad, but being with other people wasn't my main focus.
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Like, as long as he was able to be there for me when I needed him and able to understand the things that I couldn't communicate to anyone else, that was the main focus for me.
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So being able to have a person that I can express those things with was the main focus.
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So I was mentally draining myself, tuning out the cheating, and making it seem like it wasn't a big issue when it really was.
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I noticed you have a tattoo here that says the real brat.
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A brat is being able to get your way and not putting up with anything else.
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A fake brat is someone who acts like they're getting their way, but they're not.
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Well, you didn't get your way with your ex-boyfriend.
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And I left it alone, and I'm hoping better for the future.
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After a long three, four years, yes, I finally left it alone.
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And my real bratness in me is not looking for anyone right now.
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And I feel like that's what makes me a real brat, too, because I'm focused on getting what I want and not letting anyone stop me.
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It depends on when you consider that we broke up.
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You said you've been single for two years, but you saw this guy as recently as two weeks ago?
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And was there carnal knowledge involved in this visit?
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We actually haven't done anything physical since about two years.
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That's kind of when I consider that we broke up.
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Just meet up and go to Baskin-Robbins and have ice cream?
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His mother is very much a great friend of mine, also a second mom to me.
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And so every single time they have a family event or a graduation or his sister recently had a baby, I'm always invited.
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So I find myself with his family a lot, and that's why I've seen him recently.
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So before you just, it was a family get-together?
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Yeah, it was his little brother's graduation from high school.
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Wait, his little brother's graduation from high school?
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No, I'm close friends with his whole family, so they invite me to everything.
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I wish we did because I really, I love him so much, but he's so upset the way our relationship went, and he blames me for everything.
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So that's why I had to pull myself back because I want to be with someone who sees me as a great person, a great woman, and I feel like he doesn't see me as that because I put up with so many terrible things that he did.
00:28:01.900
Now it's just, oh, this girl, she's going to put up with whatever.
00:28:07.960
Like, that's how he sees me now, so I really can't ever be with him again.
00:28:21.960
Wait, but it sounded like you wanted to hit, but he didn't.
00:28:28.540
We both did, but we didn't because he sees me as someone who he can play with, so I try not to put myself in that situation even though I want to.
00:28:40.940
And I want to because I've been with him for a very long time, and I wouldn't want to restart with someone new.
00:28:48.700
Well, that's really weird to me, though, if you don't mind me just kind of asking, why would you be going to events with this guy's family and be having close personal relationships with this guy's family if that wasn't a way in which you can kind of piggyback off of them to get close to him?
00:29:07.960
Usually, you would think that if you were in a disastrous relationship where the man and the woman had decided that they just weren't right for each other, that generally they tend to space each other away from each other's families, you know, personal connections, things like this, so that they don't have to see each other anymore.
00:29:26.860
A little strange that you're going to his little brother's graduation.
00:29:36.080
Every time before one of his family members' events, I always give myself this pep talk, which is not great.
00:29:49.420
I always tell myself that, but I always end up going because I have, like, this everlasting faith that he'll finally, like, treat me right and want to be with me, and he'll see...
00:30:07.880
You're attaching yourself to his family members so that you can be close in proximity in hopes that he one day has a turnaround.
00:30:18.700
You know, I was brushing my teeth this morning, and ding, there it is.
00:30:29.800
Sometimes that is the goal, but other times it's not solely me.
00:30:34.540
I feel like his mother wants me to be with him as well.
00:30:37.840
So I feel like she also does this to help me and him regain a stronger bond.
00:30:46.120
And does he tell his mama to mind her own business?
00:30:49.000
Does he say, Mom, mind your own fucking business, doesn't he?
00:30:55.300
He says, Mom, I don't give a shit what you say.
00:31:06.440
I think there's a situation, Andrew, when, girl, you've got to call me after this, and we're going to work through this together.
00:31:12.700
Yeah, she'll only charge you X amount of dollars.
00:31:19.260
I mean, what other advice is there to give but move on?
00:31:25.720
There's no other prescriptive thing we can tell you.
00:31:30.720
This guy's going to continue seeing other women.
00:31:35.000
If he was really about you, he would only be about you.
00:31:39.540
So, like, you're basically, you were, are, will be the side chick.
00:31:47.300
I'm just trying to give you, like, a wake-up call here.
00:31:50.400
You got to, like, you're still pining over this, dude.
00:31:54.760
But I'm just confused because you say you've been single for two years, but you're seeing this.
00:32:07.900
When, in the instances where he would allegedly cheat on you, was there any retribution on, from your end?
00:32:17.020
Slashing tires, reputation destruction, anything like that.
00:32:21.720
The most I would do is, I'm a very much of a not-talk-to-you person, so I would just not talk to him.
00:32:30.060
If I did talk to him, I would constantly scream at him.
00:32:34.200
Like, there would be, he would not be able to communicate.
00:32:36.540
I would just be standing there screaming at him for hours, and then I would cry.
00:32:47.720
How did, what, this was a, like, multi-hour monologue?
00:32:51.900
He wouldn't even respond, he'd just sit there playing Call of Duty?
00:32:55.740
Wait, would he be on a video game while you were yelling at him?
00:32:57.440
He would either be on the game, or on his phone, or we would be outside in the middle of going
00:33:02.000
somewhere, and sometimes we would be out places, and he would talk to someone, and I would grab
00:33:07.220
him, make him leave, and I would yell at him the whole way home.
00:33:14.580
So, so I gotta, I gotta say, to your, whoever this mystery man is, sir, run away as fast
00:33:21.240
as you can, flee, never look back again, tell mommy and little brother to stop having relationships
00:33:28.920
with your, possibly ex-girlfriends who may not have been the girlfriend, but that would
00:33:34.800
be my recommendation, you know, and I know somewhere he's watching this, or will be watching
00:33:39.520
this, and he's thinking, man, I've tried everything, I've done everything I could possibly do, she
00:33:45.360
calls my mom on Saturdays, bro, she calls her on Saturdays, yeah, yeah, okay.
00:33:52.160
I recently just blocked his mother, his brother, his sister, and him, because I can't do this
00:34:04.800
Yikes, wait, okay, let's, can we get, I want a 30 second demo, so I'm, well, here's what
00:34:09.660
I'm gonna do, I'm gonna play solitaire for, hold on, all right, hold on, all right, look,
00:34:19.320
I'm gonna play solitaire, all right, you just yell at me like how you yelled at him, go
00:34:25.240
What are you doing, why are you talking to them, I can't take you nowhere, that's my
00:34:30.080
best friend's party, come on, I literally am gonna have to hear about this tomorrow,
00:34:35.020
please, no, don't say that, don't say anything, please be quiet, no, because you stay cheating,
00:34:40.420
you stay acting like a hoe, I can't take you nowhere, you need to go home, don't leave
00:34:44.740
me, where are you going, come back, what is wrong with you, I don't know, I don't know,
00:34:49.300
I don't, I can't, no, be quiet, stop, every single time we go somewhere, we cannot go
00:34:55.140
anywhere, we cannot go anywhere, I can't take you anywhere, please, like, can you please
00:35:01.280
just act like you want to be with me, or we do not have to go places, we can deal with
00:35:10.020
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, can we put the cuckoo back in the clock here,
00:35:14.640
lady, for just a minute, whew, that was rough, that was rough, that sounded like you rehearsed
00:35:21.480
this, yeah, yeah, it happened so, it happened so many times, where, like, at that point,
00:35:27.540
I would just, like, go off, I would non-stop, like, I would lose my voice just screaming at
00:35:33.400
him, because there was nothing I could say for him to actually stop what he was doing,
00:35:40.640
I have, like, a random one-off scenario question, if, like, a guy came into your life, and you,
00:35:47.200
and he was pursuing you, and he was a good man, and then this guy came back, and he was
00:35:52.240
like, no, I want you, which one would you take?
00:35:56.660
At this point in my life, I'm going to say the new person, only because every other moment
00:36:03.940
of my life, I've taken him back, and it wasn't worth it, every single time it wasn't worth
00:36:10.060
it, because he still couldn't see me as someone who was worth being with, and I want, uh, I
00:36:16.560
want, I want someone new who can see me as, like, a fresh, beautiful soul, and they don't
00:36:20.740
have all this pent-up anger against me or resentment, because I let them do things that
00:36:26.320
I shouldn't have, and I should have walked away a long time ago.
00:36:28.940
So, you said that you blocked this guy's family.
00:36:40.720
I'll be honest, like, the on and off, it takes a minute, and you say the real brat, I think
00:36:45.580
that's when you take your power back, when you start realizing your self-worth and self-respect,
00:36:49.700
and you're just like, I don't want to deal with this shit anymore.
00:36:51.420
So, you know you deserve better, but as someone who's been through it, sometimes it takes
00:36:57.300
a couple of times for you to realize it, and then your friends have all seen it, and you
00:37:03.920
start slowly seeing what they saw, and then you realize that it's time to cut it off, but
00:37:19.040
She for sure has a lot of, you need a lot of healing, my child, but...
00:37:23.340
Yeah, but you're telling her you don't have to put up with it anymore.
00:37:33.200
It's the fact that I'm saying that she definitely needs...
00:37:39.160
She has a lot of unhealed trauma for herself, but at the same time, she's not putting up with
00:37:47.440
If somebody yelled at me like that, girl, I would have cut you.
00:37:50.020
I would have moved, changed my phone number, blocked you, like left.
00:37:52.200
But it is that resentment, it is that pent up, what you're not getting, so you're frustrated.
00:37:57.600
You're both toxic, and it just keeps getting more toxic and toxic because you're letting
00:38:01.340
it happen, so he doesn't respect you, you don't respect yourself, he's not listening
00:38:05.040
to you, he's tuning you out, and you get more frustrated because you don't feel hurt,
00:38:08.380
so it's like literally a toxic thing that just keeps fucking building up, building up
00:38:15.080
Yes, we have, but it wasn't as bad as I would say, like, abuse goes.
00:38:27.980
But this was you physically attacking him, right?
00:38:34.140
I believe that I hit him, and then he hit me back, so I literally started crying, I
00:38:43.400
was like, oh my god, you hit me to that, but I was so mad, I did hit him.
00:38:47.860
Yeah, but you can't raise your hand if you don't want to expect to get hit.
00:38:54.160
This happened not many times, I would say three times in the same week to where it was
00:39:00.920
like we were actually fighting, but he was fighting me to a point where he wanted me
00:39:05.380
to stop, and I was fighting him to a point where I was angry, so it was like he wasn't...
00:39:11.100
Yeah, he wasn't, like, hurting me or anything, he was genuinely trying to get, like, stopped.
00:39:16.260
And in the three times, of the three times you mentioned, you were the initiator in all
00:39:27.860
I, like, I would punch him in the back and, like, in the arm.
00:39:35.180
He would sit on his phone in my room and text other females, people that I used to be friends
00:39:40.480
with, people that I would see every day, and I would just, like, scream at him, like, please,
00:39:48.300
He was having so much fun, so I would, like, hit him.
00:39:54.720
I mean, honestly, I don't think he's at fault either, because, like, Brian said, he was honest
00:39:59.360
Like, he didn't have any consequences, because I've been through that, where I had an ex,
00:40:03.580
he said he wanted options, and I was like, that's not, no, I'm sorry, bye.
00:40:08.080
But he didn't have any consequences, so he really didn't care, and he told you what he
00:40:12.320
wanted, which wasn't really you, and it hurts to hear it, but you just kind of, like, want
00:40:16.840
to force it on him, and then you're just getting frustrated because you're not getting
00:40:19.320
what you want, but it's almost like selective hearing.
00:40:21.380
You're literally not listening to what he's saying, and you're just like, but give me
00:40:25.680
what I want, and he's like, well, this is what I'm giving you, and you just don't want
00:40:38.160
This is also, I mean, this is also, wait, you said he's adopted?
00:40:43.980
I feel so bad that I put that out there, but it's part of our love story, or was love story.
00:40:58.100
It's also an L for this guy to actually tolerate this level of disrespect.
00:41:05.000
He's clearly the victim in this whole situation, but...
00:41:09.520
Okay, can I give a counter, though, to this, Brian?
00:41:14.780
What if it's, you know, it's 11 o'clock at night, and he wants some Arby's, and it's
00:41:19.760
really far away, and it's open 24 hours, you know, seven days away.
00:41:23.400
You know, she can go get the Arby's for him, you know?
00:41:28.620
So, wait, in his defense, who wants to get up at 11 o'clock at night?
00:41:32.860
Ladies, I'm going to Cabo San Lucas in February next year.
00:41:36.640
Would any of you on the panel bow to me, Bucky Larson, for six nights in a row if I flew you
00:41:43.220
Okay, I guess, show of hands, anybody here willing to take him up on his, this Bucky
00:41:57.860
Well, I'm just saying, you know, I understand what you're saying.
00:42:00.800
Kind of an L for him, because he's, you know, continuing to kind of lead her on and this
00:42:04.820
kind of thing, but, you know, I really feel like that that's deviating away from female
00:42:11.860
Once you get to the, well, I hang out with his parents and his siblings in order to get
00:42:17.320
closer to him, I feel like he's just kind of stuck at that, but, like, what the hell
00:42:34.020
We keep in touch with the family because we want to get back.
00:42:38.120
I was trapping him for a certain amount of time.
00:42:46.620
And then I started asking myself, why am I here?
00:42:49.860
But at first it was like, oh, yeah, like, his mom invited me.
00:42:53.460
Like, but then it, I started to, like, gather myself.
00:43:00.600
Is his mother aware of the nature of your guys' physically violent relationship?
00:43:08.920
And she would tell me, like, that he's not ready to be in a relationship
00:43:12.140
and that he needs to, like, grow a lot more within himself,
00:43:18.120
and that it's, like, not right for me to be with him.
00:43:27.540
Like, the adoptive mother is not advising her adopted son
00:43:33.560
to try to exit a physically abusive relationship.
00:43:38.320
Yeah, I'm just not willing to throw this poor guy under the bus just yet.
00:43:48.200
I mean, you're beating him up, ingratiating yourself into his family,
00:43:53.740
You know, I mean, you kind of sound like a pain in the ass, honestly.
00:44:06.920
But I don't see it like that, which is part of my problem.
00:44:16.100
I feel that when you are not getting what you need or you need to receive in a relationship,
00:44:23.260
you need to remove yourself or else it'll bring something else out of you that is not beautiful
00:44:33.380
Yeah, no, not really, because he tried to remove himself and then you surveyed yourself after he tried to remove himself, right?
00:44:47.800
He does not get to remove himself until we both feel that that is what needs to happen.
00:44:55.720
But now that I'm thinking about it now, it's okay.
00:45:01.620
You know the shower scene with that music, you know, that music is playing right there.
00:45:10.720
Is that this poor guy is going to have a shower scene soon.
00:45:14.500
He's just, you know, he's going to get off a hard day's work.
00:45:18.640
The curtain's going to open and that's going to be it for him.
00:45:26.500
By the way, TTS has been bumped up to back to 200.
00:45:43.980
If he were to watch this right now, he would be so happy because you're validating his point.
00:46:12.540
This poor, deranged lunatic whose family you're hanging out with.
00:46:44.560
And I'm continuing to remove myself every single day.
00:46:48.200
I'm continuing to understand what not being loved correctly does to me.
00:46:56.420
I put myself at fault because I should have taken removing myself from the situation a very long time ago.
00:47:03.820
And me staying is what brought this monster out of me.
00:47:12.800
And that's why moving forward, I want to make sure that I know what triggers me and that I don't put myself in those positions.
00:47:21.400
So I'm not going to be in any position where I am not wanted.
00:47:32.900
He got me, okay, one time there was a Christmas that had one of the Christmases a few years ago.
00:47:44.940
So I would buy him like candles so that you couldn't smell it.
00:48:01.720
And then one day in January, he had like this long pole and he like, he gave it to me.
00:48:11.200
And inside of it was this long, big picture of the Vincent Van Owen sunflower painting.
00:48:20.660
It's like a pot with like all the sunflowers in it.
00:48:28.020
You're going to understand why I don't remember the name.
00:48:34.720
It's a long picture frame painting of the picture that he gave me.
00:48:46.320
I guess he had bought a picture frame for it on OfferUp.
00:48:58.860
What happened was one day, he didn't want to see me.
00:49:06.240
I was like very like in a traumatic phase of my life.
00:49:11.680
But he was out with other girls and like with his friends who would take him with other girls.
00:49:33.320
I walked down the street like where all the crackheads were.
00:49:47.780
I smashed it into pieces in the crackhead owie.
00:50:06.880
He had given me this big stuffed animal monkey.
00:50:11.640
Because when we first met, he was like kind of fat.
00:50:35.620
Before I tell you if he had a car, he had some nice clippers and some nice cologne.
00:50:40.200
I gave that to the homeless man who watched me burn his stuff.
00:50:56.780
I probably would have stolen it before I would have damaged it.
00:51:00.100
Only because in that phase of my life, like everything that was his was ours.
00:51:21.280
I would have, like, when he left stuff with me, it was mine.
00:51:30.840
I would have, if he had a car and we were together, I would have taken his car.
00:51:35.160
If he had been able to go see other girls in that car, I would have had the car.
00:51:38.100
You know what's crazy to me about this conversation is if there was a man sitting where you're sitting telling us the exact same shit, but, like, flip the genders, the gravitas of the situation would be, like, way different.
00:51:59.780
Like, not only if a guy was, like, revealing all these things, but he was laughing as he did, this guy would be, like, public enemy number one.
00:52:11.880
It's just kind of interesting to me how that works.
00:52:14.960
Well, he'd be on his ninth restraining order, you know?
00:52:17.700
I mean, his picture would be plastered all over, don't date this guy because he's a lunatic.com.
00:52:24.300
I mean, he would have everything on planet Earth going against him.
00:52:28.100
But ew, it's just like, well, well, you know, I'm in a nice little picnic dress, and, you know, I burned this guy's shit and handed all this stuff off to homeless people.
00:52:41.260
As long as I'm not with him, everything's good because being with him triggered so much of myself that I needed to learn.
00:52:52.560
But it's also a good thing that it happened, not for him, of course, but at least for me because I got to realize these sides of myself that I wouldn't ever want to do again.
00:53:02.040
Like, I still look back, and I know I just said a lot of crazy things, but I miss that monkey, that fat monkey.
00:53:07.320
That's what I'm going to start saying to my wife.
00:53:08.720
I'm going to go in and be like, you burnt the roast, and I'm going to smack the shit out of her, and they're going to be like, it's your fault.
00:53:18.580
If you didn't bring, my fingers wouldn't be bruised right now from decking you so many times, but it's you.
00:53:26.180
I mean, does that sound reasonable to you, or does that sound like I'd go to prison?
00:53:31.360
I was not 18 yet enough to do real time, so I was kind of in the green zone.
00:53:37.720
So let's wait a minute so we can get away with it.
00:53:38.940
Wait, were you, was, did you go to, like, did you catch a case for any of this shit?
00:53:53.980
Well, I mean, you say that it's only with this guy, but have any of these behaviors manifested with other men?
00:54:00.100
What's crazy is that I think now I'm realizing my karma.
00:54:03.740
Every single guy that I have, like, talked to or tried to be with after him have all been psychopaths, and all of my friends know, if you're out there listening, I literally have dealt with psychopaths consistently after this, and it's torn me even more to the point where now I don't know how to be in a relationship.
00:54:24.200
Because at first I was, like, this crazy, like, wanting to be loved girl, but now, like, I'm dealing with people who are doing the same thing to me.
00:54:32.560
I actually, it's making sense to me now that I have been living out my karma.
00:54:36.380
Every person that I've talked to after him has been psycho.
00:54:40.860
They have done hurtful things and said hurtful things to me.
00:54:45.720
Perhaps we'll come back to that in a little bit.
00:54:47.280
But preemptively, we were actually going to react to something actually somewhat related.
00:54:59.240
Actually, let's get through, we'll get through relationship status, then we can do it afterwards.
00:55:37.900
And when you say you're celibate, are you now like waiting until marriage or something?
00:55:42.400
When I'm single, I don't really, I don't hook up.
00:55:47.280
I kind of try to put myself out there to date and I downloaded the dating apps, went
00:55:51.480
out a couple times just to put myself out there.
00:56:00.040
Um, I would say for about like two years, three years.
00:56:27.300
Um, I would say often, um, I would say like it was kind of a physical situation, but not
00:56:44.440
And, um, I guess when you're in something like that, it takes a while to realize like
00:56:50.600
And then like, there was so many other factors in it that made it harder for me to like understand
00:56:58.320
And then when I finally, like, she kind of really helped me get out of that situation.
00:57:05.000
So you were in an on again, off again, five year relationship.
00:57:08.220
I mean, if you had to estimate how many times was it off and on?
00:57:12.060
I would say about three times, three to four times.
00:57:15.060
It wasn't like off and then automatically on again.
00:57:29.340
And then when it was on, who initiated the let's get back together?
00:57:32.180
He would always try his best to come show up in my life any way possible.
00:57:40.980
Um, I would say I've never really had like a serious relationship or relationship.
00:57:46.800
So what's the longest period of time you've dated somebody?
00:58:04.680
So when's the last time you've, I mean, you've been dating at all?
00:58:11.180
Well, I've like talked to people, like some people on the internet, like if I find, if
00:58:16.280
they say things that are like interesting to me, I'll like respond.
00:58:18.900
But I wouldn't, I'm not necessarily going out and dating people right now.
00:58:26.780
We are, we have educational speaking entrepreneurship in our brand.
00:58:33.040
So it took a long time for me to get that together.
00:58:37.760
Like anything, anything that, not just philosophy, but just.
00:58:41.340
And like, like I said, how I was talking to you about red flags.
00:58:46.980
So I, we also educate like red flags in people or in relationships and how the aftermath of
00:58:51.700
trauma in a relationship, how can you grow after being traumatized?
00:59:18.620
Just about like the mind and like how to like elevate one's mindset and vibration from
00:59:27.060
Well, that sounds, that sounds like esotericism.
00:59:29.420
No, it means, um, low vibrational is like talking about things like, oh, like she was
00:59:34.600
saying earlier, like she had to have those pep talks with herself saying, I'm stupid.
00:59:39.500
And to go see him, those are like low vibrational thoughts.
00:59:42.980
And you're supposed to listen to the high vibration.
00:59:55.180
I don't understand how that's linked in together with stoicism at all.
00:59:58.940
That has everything to do with stoicism because stoicism, I am explaining it right
01:00:03.140
It has to do with stoicism because, um, people in stoicism believe that life should be peaceful
01:00:09.600
and that everything has a reason in a positive manner.
01:00:12.820
So everything correlates with stoicism to high vibration.
01:00:18.520
Can you tell me which, um, which of the great stoic philosophers talked about vibrational frequencies?
01:00:30.480
Can you tell me which great stoic philosophers talked about vibrational frequencies?
01:00:44.520
I cannot remember his last name at the moment, but.
01:00:52.540
Was he the husband to a murdered wife and he's going to have his revenge in this life
01:01:01.560
Are we asking who the author, uh, he's just like, wait, have you, you guys.
01:01:09.180
I was, I was quoting gladiator just because I thought it was funny.
01:01:14.060
Maximus, but Maximus, the, the vibrational frequency guy.
01:01:18.360
He talked about the mindset of the brain and they did, they did test with human beings
01:01:23.440
when it comes to like talking and depression, people with depression and people who are like
01:01:27.780
successful in their, um, careers who have depression and they don't have depression.
01:01:31.760
And they like tested the people in the room and the people who spoke so highly about others
01:01:36.880
and they had this positive posture in mind that everything that they would say out their
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mouth was something positive versus the people who are depressed.
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I understand that, but before we jump to modern sociological science experiments, can you
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tell me which stoic philosophers you're referencing?
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If you couldn't remember, you should have wrote it down.
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Why won't you just tell me who the philosopher is?
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You would have to pay me or go to school for that.
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Well, I wasn't sitting here, so why don't you tell me?
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I don't really want to continue this conversation.
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Yeah, I know, but we really do want to continue the conversation.
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I just said that when you asked me that the first time, so that's why I didn't even want to
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If you're teaching people stoicism about vibrations, you can't name one philosopher other than Maximus
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who teaches about vibrational frequencies, a stoic philosopher?
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No, it's not even about his, it's not about that one philosopher himself.
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It's about the idea of stoicism and the practice of it.
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I don't really care about the point you're trying to prove.
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The point I'm trying to say is a high vibrational mindset is the key to success.
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In my life strategy and what I've been doing, that's been working great for me.
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So whatever you're saying, I don't need to have a list of people to say, oh, this is like
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You can't quote any of them talking about vibrational frequencies.
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I'm just trying to say that I'm not wrong what I'm saying.
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So if you want to prove me wrong, pull up the facts against me.
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I'm absolutely willing 100% to claim that I'm incorrect.
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I love hearing other ideologies and philosophies.
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But I'm going to need a little bit more than Maximus the philosopher who talked about vibrational
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frequencies for me to even know what the hell you're talking about.
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Alexander the Great never talked about vibrational frequencies.
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He talks about high vibration and how he was able to conquer Jerusalem during a peaceful
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during the 88 years of peace versus right now where it's Israel and Palestine.
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So you guys are talking about this stoicism, correct?
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I would like to take back my answer because I don't know his full name at the moment.
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I cannot remember his full name because it's Greek.
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Do you know who the most preeminent, prominent stoic philosopher was?
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They have very long names and I can't remember these things unless I go back and memorize.
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See, it's like, it's more so the message than the name.
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He was really keen on like what time he got up in the morning, what she ate for breakfast.
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Not so keen on, I don't remember much about vibrational frequencies coming from Marcus Aurelius.
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It could be worded in another way, but it's overall the same message of like having a high vibration.
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I wouldn't put it as a philosophy to be honest, but I get it.
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When you're low frequency, it's like when you're depressed, when you're just like all the negative or limiting beliefs or whatever it is.
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So when you raise your vibration is, let's say if you do something, a workout, it's like the endorphins kick in.
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It's like that, you know, but I mean, I don't, I don't, I wouldn't call it a philosophy.
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Mine's more like, I don't know, self-awareness kind of thing, but maybe that ties into philosophy.
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I'm not going to really get onto the philosophy part because I don't know much about it, but I get the ebbs and flows.
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When you're low, you've got to kind of do something to get yourself out of it.
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If I'm not feeling good, I will do something, you know, like Tony Robbins talks about it.
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He's like, oh, you know, when he jumps up and down and change your physiology, if you're not feeling good, change your physiology, do something that feeds your soul and then raises your vibration.
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So then it opens up your mindset because when you're on those low frequencies, you're just, it's almost like doomsday.
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So when you're in a negative state mind, if you're in that low vibration, you're attracting everything that's negative.
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So if you're feeling good, you're going to radiate that positivity and you're going to get that back in the universe.
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So I believe that, but I don't know how it goes to philosophy.
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It's not only that, but it's philosophy has to do everything to do with high vibration because of mindset and also point of view of life.
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Philosophy is used for people to practice in a way of life.
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That's why philosophy is incorporated in religion.
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I mean, I don't know much about philosophy, but I mean, we have, I know we have, I'm Iranian.
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So there's a lot of amazing philosophers that we have.
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But I'm saying like, I don't know much about it.
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So I'm not going to speak on that, but I speak on the vibration part of it because I incorporate that in my life where I'm like, okay, if I'm feeling this, then change your vibration, change your physiology and it elevates you.
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So again, I don't know much about the philosophy aspect of it, but I'm sure it ties into it.
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How long, you said you've been single your whole life, you said?
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So are there any guys in the picture currently?
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Like people who want to, are interested in the mindset that we're talking about.
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Like elevating their mindset from negative to positive.
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Sometimes you can sit alone by yourself and have automatic negative mindsets.
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You wonder why, where are these thoughts coming from?
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It's coming from something self-like within, subconscious.
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You have to change your mind frame, change how you view the world so you can perform better
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and how you can treat others around you better.
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You have to change your mindset, try and change your mind frame.
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By experiencing new levels of education, understanding new perspectives in life, and applying it to
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your own life, your day-to-day, like, I don't know.
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Yeah, I feel like, honestly, it's like very basic when it comes to that, where it's like,
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Well, I know, but I'm kind of like trying to make it make sense.
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I don't even really want to share too much because I feel like this is like your platform.
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So I really would rather give it an opportunity to talk about dating and not to do with the
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We were talking for like two months and then he asked me to be his girlfriend and I said
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And we, originally we found you, you had some TikTok videos.
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Let me get through everybody's relationship status.
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I have been in a relationship for four years and it is my longest relationship.
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I am married and that's, sorry, my longest really, we've been married three years, this
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year together almost 10 and that's my longest relationship.
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I'm taken and the longest relationship was four years.
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Do you know if it's going to be a boy or a girl?
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And so going back to you, you said you've been single as of three weeks ago.
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So I asked him to get me something and he didn't want to get it for me.
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Then that same night, he's like, hey, I don't think this is going to work out.
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I go into things without fully evaluating them and looking at the repercussions.
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So I don't think I wholeheartedly want a relationship anymore.
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And so I was like, hey, can you please get this for me?
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And he's like, I don't want to get that for you because you're not 21 yet.
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And then we had an argument and that whole thing happened.
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So there was like, he didn't want some sort of liability there.
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Because I told him, I was like, okay, if you don't want to get it, I'll just find another way to get it.
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And he's like, oh, no, I don't want you to get it from people who are like druggies or things like that.
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Like, I would rather have you get it from me, someone that you trust.
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And I was like, well, you don't want to do it in the first place, so I'll just find my own other way to do it.
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And then I guess that started a little fire in him or something.
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Do you think he was wrong for breaking up with you?
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Because we were talking for two months already and he knew my personality.
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He knew the person that I was and I knew the type of person he was.
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He said he was interested in looking for a relationship.
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But for him to cut me off after a week over one mild argument that could have easily been solved, I don't know.
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Because, you know, sometimes people leave out certain details.
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But just, you know, without, you know, seeing the receipts, there's no point of contention or dispute as to what was said, what wasn't said.
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And I could give you the guy's perspective of if you fucked up.
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He said that I was being kind of dry because all I kept saying was okay because I just wanted to move on from what we were talking about.
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And then we just, like, ended the night with goodnight.
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And then he was like, oh, a girlfriend wouldn't just, like, sideline everything I say and not take into accountability what I'm saying.
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Like, I'm trying to be serious and you're not taking me seriously.
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Famous stoic philosopher Dicus Maximus van Nguyen once said, align with the cosmos slow vibrations.
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In quiet whispers, find wisdom and hidden pods to enlightenment and harmony.
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He didn't even quote Biggest Dickus or anything.
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Have you guys spoken at all since or where did you guys leave it?
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He was just like, oh, I ultimately decided that I don't wholeheartedly want a relationship
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He says that he makes impulsive decisions without thinking about the repercussions or things
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And I was like, okay, well, if you don't want a wholehearted relationship, then I don't want
01:15:19.340
Well, I mean, you probably know better than us, but do you think that what precipitated
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the breakup was this argument that you guys had?
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Because we've had like mild arguments before, but it wasn't like this.
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But we've had like mild arguments where we've gotten over them, no problem.
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And I thought this was just going to be another mild argument as well that we would get over,
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He said that he doesn't want to be with someone who goes to parties all the time.
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When I told him originally already that I do party promoting as like a little side hobby
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hustle, and he was like, oh, that's so cool that you do party promoting and you're in school
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I was like, oh, my God, this guy thinks I'm like so cool.
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But then he's like, I don't want to be with a girl who does party promoting.
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You could be a pimp, but that wouldn't make you a prostitute, right?
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So if you were a pimp and you did have a ring of prostitutes,
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that would not entail that you yourself would need to sleep with the Johns, right?
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So if you're a party promoter, I don't see how the entailment is that you must party exactly.
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I'm friends with all the people that I host with, and they're all really cool people.
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It's not like I'm going out talking to 300 guys in one night, getting all their numbers.
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Some do come to talk to me, and I'll be polite and say hi,
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but I'll tend to just brush them off because no.
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It seems like there's a little bit of sour grapes.
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There are other people, I'm guessing, at these parties who are drinking and doing some mild forms of drugs, right?
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mainly because me and my roommate, we go together, and she likes to do all that stuff.
01:18:02.580
So, like, when he first met you, he said, oh, it's cool that you do the party promoting.
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He said, word for word, I think it's cool that you do photography and are a party promoter.
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He was probably just trying to make a conversation so he could sleep with you.
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Maybe he just didn't think an entailment of being a person who promoted parties was that you then yourself needed to go party, right?
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It doesn't mean, it's like saying I'm a fight promoter.
01:18:41.440
Also, on that note, how often are these parties held?
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No, just, like, every Saturday, every other Saturday.
01:18:51.340
And were there instances where, for example, he wanted to hang out with you on a Saturday, but you had to go to the party?
01:19:00.260
Well, I mean, he had, so I guess when you first met, he had no problem with you engaging in what he considered single behavior.
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But once you guys started dating, he wanted you to act in a way that he thought was more consistent with being in a relationship.
01:19:17.100
I think both men and women typically tend to prefer their partners to not be partying when they're in a relationship.
01:19:31.360
In fact, when you start caring about someone, some of the behaviors that in the beginning that you are okay with, like the partying, then he's like, well, now I don't want to share you with him.
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And if you're not going to give it up, then he's giving you up.
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There's probably this big argument, though, that was the cause of the word.
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I just wish he communicated that, like, hey, I don't know.
01:20:13.480
Isn't there a way that you can bring it back, like an iPhone or an iMessage?
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You can actually call your phone carrier and they'll, like, provide some text back.
01:20:30.340
Wait, so then if you were in a relationship and your man asked you to give up going to parties, would you do it?
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I would say I wouldn't go, like, every time they throw, because it does get tiring, and sometimes I do not want to go sometimes, because sometimes I do like a night in on the weekends, so I don't know.
01:20:59.540
He was supposed to go to one with me that Saturday, but he didn't, because we broke up.
01:21:11.040
Sorry, I just want to make sure I get this right, just real quick before we move on.
01:21:14.600
So you're in an argument about you going and partying too much, and your resolution to this was to bring him partying with you.
01:21:24.800
Because, okay, he's not a big, like, L.A. city party type of guy.
01:21:33.660
And I was like, okay, I went to these kickbacks with him.
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And I was like, okay, well, if I go to these with you, I went to, like, three.
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I was like, can you at least go to, like, just one, just to experience it?
01:21:48.420
No, no, no, I understand the idea here of you have this interest and I have this interest, and so I'm participating in your interest.
01:21:57.200
But this ignores what the argument is about, right?
01:22:00.440
So let's assume that the role is reversed, and you're arguing with him about these get-togethers.
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And he was like, oh, well, I have a great idea.
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Why don't you just come with me to the get-togethers instead?
01:22:13.300
Well, I didn't know it was an entire problem until we argued about it.
01:22:17.700
Because before that, everything was totally fine.
01:22:24.240
And then all of a sudden, it's like, I don't want to go.
01:22:30.520
So I know that growing up in this day and age, we kind of saturate ourselves with the idea that partying while in a relationship is not a bad thing.
01:22:41.060
But I would say that it's not just, like, a trust issue.
01:22:47.600
So if you respect your boyfriend, you just won't party unless he's there.
01:23:00.580
Protect his heart by not going to party without him.
01:23:06.560
Well, no, I think you weren't ready for a relationship.
01:23:08.400
Because if you really do love someone and it's something that it's kind of like a non-negotiable to them, it comes down to, like, what's more important?
01:23:17.580
Or if you show up to a party with your friends?
01:23:22.180
So if he matters and you want to be with him, then going to parties or not going to parties is not that big of a deal.
01:23:27.480
Because you're like, well, this relationship matters to me and I want to build on that.
01:23:36.300
But, like, initially giving him that, like you said, the respect of you matter to me more and making him, giving him that reassurance.
01:23:44.920
But, yeah, I think it's just when you're really into someone, then you'll do the sacrifices.
01:23:51.840
Would you want to date someone that was partying every weekend?
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Like, is that someone that you would want to be with?
01:24:17.700
But it's like I'm the type of person who's very trustworthy, which is kind of a bad thing.
01:24:22.620
So, I will just trust my partner that they don't do anything.
01:24:26.980
But at the same time, I'm like, it's a respect thing, like you said.
01:24:30.140
So, like, when a guy's at parties, your boyfriend or future boyfriend, the idea in your head where it's like he's putting himself in a situation for all of these girls to come up to him, for all these girls to hit on him.
01:24:43.020
Whether or not you trust him, that's still happening.
01:24:52.660
So, that's how guys feel, though, when young girls going to parties.
01:24:55.660
It's just giving those guys an opportunity, whether you're taken or not, to give them, like, yeah, again, so to give them that opportunity to flirt with you.
01:25:06.040
And you're letting it happen by being there, whether you say no or not.
01:25:16.200
I mean, there's a differential here because as a guy, if you go to a bar club party, you could just go get a drink, be in the corner, be in the main part of it.
01:25:29.520
You're, nobody's going to talk to you as a guy the entire night, whether you're single, in a relationship, or married.
01:25:37.760
If you're a girl, regardless of your relationship status, men are going to approach you.
01:25:46.140
So, even making a comparison between men and women, just, it's totally different because the way y'all flirt as women is by putting yourselves out there.
01:25:56.160
So, when you're in a relationship, you need to stop your version of game and we need to stop our version of game.
01:26:04.360
So, for us as men, that's taking the initiator role.
01:26:07.320
For you as women, that's, you need to, you need to close off your, you need to close off your options by not doing what you do as a single woman, which is to put yourself in a position to be approached, to be talked to.
01:26:23.940
So, for example, most women aren't going to slide into a dude's DMs, but you're going to post revealing photos.
01:26:29.680
So, in a relationship, the appropriate thing would be to, for example, the guy to stop DMing girls and for the girl to stop posting revealing photos.
01:26:38.040
Or in the case of a bar, the situation would be the guy stops approaching women.
01:26:42.120
As a woman, you stop putting yourself in situations where it's, you have pre-knowledge that you're likely to be romantically and sexually pursued.
01:26:51.120
So, this obviously doesn't, look, you might get approached in Trader Joe's, but that's not really what we're talking about here.
01:27:11.260
Just pierced his ear, but didn't break his stride.
01:27:27.980
I was watching all that stuff go down yesterday.
01:27:32.680
Actually, we should maybe talk about the secret service and the women that were on his detail.
01:27:39.060
Ryan, that woman had the most important job that there was.
01:27:41.700
She was guarding the entirety of his midsection.
01:27:45.240
Without her, I don't even think he would have been able to make it out of there.
01:27:49.620
She was really, she was kind of shouldering the lion's share of the burden, if you will.
01:27:55.980
I must have looked at that photo at least 30 times.
01:27:58.720
And while it's true that it was iconic that Trump was holding his fist up in an American flag,
01:28:03.640
and that'll go down in history as probably one of the greatest presidential pictures ever taken,
01:28:08.080
and all I could think of was how stunning and brave that woman was who was trying to pull him off that battlefield.
01:28:13.000
Yeah, well, did you see the photo of the other angle where there were one of the, not that woman,
01:28:18.460
who, granted, did her job and was being a meat shield effectively?
01:28:23.580
After she got done falling on the ground, she did indeed grab him around the midsection
01:28:32.680
Well, there, I don't know if you saw this other angle.
01:28:35.020
There's a woman who was, like, behind, and she was the one with short hair who failed to holster her weapon three times.
01:28:44.020
Well, okay, maybe, but these are new-issued pistols that they have, and, you know, they're really big,
01:28:53.580
If they had given her the proper equipment that was necessary, like all of the men got, Brian,
01:29:00.020
So I'm not going to take any of your absurd Trump bashing or any of your absurd bashing of his bodyguards
01:29:22.080
That's because nobody saw her, because there's no such thing.
01:29:24.840
But if there was, she would have done her job well.
01:29:30.700
Anyways, that's just crazy, the DEI and the Secret Service.
01:29:39.780
Not putting yourself in situations and relationships.
01:29:44.060
Anyways, I guess we'll move things on a little bit here.
01:29:46.720
We did have a couple things to react to from you, though.
01:30:08.460
When you date to marry, but every boy is a cheater, liar, isn't ready for a relationship, or lives off the planet.
01:30:17.360
And so, was this in reaction to the most recent guy, or was this about somebody else?
01:30:27.060
Well, I mean, I'm sure there's some truth to...
01:30:33.280
Every guy on the planet isn't a liar, cheater, lives off the face of the earth.
01:30:50.980
Until you guys had a catastrophic argument about a vape.
01:30:59.620
Like, would you hook up with an alien is kind of what you're talking about?
01:31:28.600
But it sounds like he was ready for a relationship.
01:31:31.820
I don't know if he was, if he wasn't, but ultimately he made the decision to end it.
01:31:37.160
Wait, let's role-play the whole vape situation.
01:32:48.420
He's, like, if I get you this, it's kind of illegal.
01:33:05.860
Like, I'll get it for you, but I will feel bad because it is illegal.
01:33:18.900
This guy wasn't even willing to do criminal activity for you or anything.
01:33:24.280
I will say I did call him a bitch once, but that's...
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I told him, I was like, if you don't want to get it, that's fine, but I'm my own person
01:33:52.980
And that I am my own person and I will do what I want with the money that I have.
01:34:01.240
He wasn't trying to prevent you from getting it, right?
01:34:08.320
But then you said, well, I'll get it from somebody else.
01:34:10.420
But then he had safety concerns of, like, I don't know, can you, like, taint a vape?
01:34:20.180
But what was the context of you calling him a bitch?
01:34:35.960
I think it was because he just knew I vaped and he knew it was like vaping is like a bad
01:34:46.480
I was like, okay, I will take that into consideration, but I am my own person and I will do it if I
01:34:53.920
And then I think that's where I called him a bitch.
01:35:06.560
Did you, did you put, did you put Lil in there?
01:35:22.020
It just feels like he was trying to do what was best for you.
01:35:25.260
You have to understand like, okay, here's, here's two things.
01:35:29.360
First off, this is one of the very, like, we spent about five minutes talking about it,
01:35:35.580
but you, you withheld a very important piece of evidence that we could have used to prosecute
01:35:46.560
They'll like, they'll downplay what they've done wrong and they'll exaggerate what the other
01:35:54.840
I've, me personally, I've never done that ever.
01:36:02.260
I will paint a good, if I, especially if I'm asking for advice, I'll always be sure.
01:36:09.060
I won't leave certain details out to try to paint me in a better light, but you calling
01:36:21.920
Men will kill, kill other men because other men disrespected them.
01:36:28.700
It's not even, won't even necessarily be about money.
01:36:31.520
If a guy disrespects, I'm not saying all men will do this, but men will literally kill other
01:36:40.660
And as your woman, he wants you to, he, he wants you to respect him.
01:36:46.780
I mean, I think this goes both ways, but for men, like respect is on a whole nother level.
01:36:53.780
If you're calling him a bitch, you it's, it's respect is to men.
01:37:00.780
Yeah, no, there's like men put respect above love.
01:37:04.900
So the way we want, we want to receive love is that respect.
01:37:07.860
So if you don't respect a man, you can't expect him to be a provider, protector.
01:37:14.640
So the moment you call him a bitch, it's like, that's, that's like the cardinal rule.
01:37:19.160
If you want to break up with someone, call him a bitch, like not even in a joke and not
01:37:23.780
But respect is literally the most important to, to a man, just like how we want to receive
01:37:29.780
So, yeah, I mean, that is the reason for the breakup.
01:37:32.640
It's that, I don't even think it has anything to do with your partying.
01:37:35.840
It's the fact that he just doesn't feel respected.
01:37:37.600
So I find it interesting too, that, um, just kind of going back to the tick tock as well,
01:37:43.140
that, you know, you, you're having a hard time finding like marriage or like these long-term
01:37:49.320
But like, for me, I would never call my husband that just because of that respect.
01:37:53.060
So it makes me wonder if, you know, it's okay if you're not ready for marriage, but you're
01:37:57.000
just maybe not ready for that long-term like committed relationship.
01:38:02.320
On the tick tock, you wrote dating to marry and dating to marry.
01:38:06.960
If I, when I decide to date, I put myself out of, I act like a wife, right?
01:38:14.040
So if, if my actions don't align with what I want, then I'm not going to attract the guy
01:38:19.340
So if you're saying dating for marriage, that's a big thing to say.
01:38:22.360
If you're just having dating to date, cool, do whatever you want.
01:38:24.940
No, you can't even, you want to want to understand, you can't call a guy a bitch either.
01:38:28.080
No, I'm not saying the bitch, that, that's a whole, that's, that's a, that's
01:38:34.800
But I'm saying like dating to marry, it's different.
01:38:37.380
Like you really have to portray that person to attract that because if you're
01:38:43.160
partying, you're calling him, disrespecting him and all that, it's like, that's
01:38:51.380
Do you think that when you said, I'll get it from someone else, he thought you
01:38:54.240
meant another guy or was it truly about babying?
01:38:57.220
Because given that you were a partier, that's, that's where my mind went right
01:39:01.320
When I said someone else, I was talking about like my friends mainly.
01:39:05.800
Also, I didn't know it was, I don't know if it's just the younger generation, but I
01:39:10.420
didn't know it was a cardinal rule not to call a guy a bitch.
01:39:19.520
If he called you a cunt, would that, that would be chill with you?
01:39:29.040
I'm like trying to picture him calling me a cunt and it's like not happening.
01:39:34.680
But the question, the question is if he did, if he were to, we're not saying that he
01:39:41.400
would, we're just saying if he did, would that have been okay with you?
01:40:01.500
Like everyone nowadays, they just talk shit about each other.
01:40:18.620
You guys are just ready to jump from one thing to another.
01:40:31.560
But you're trying to say that it's cool for like, oh, that's how it is.
01:40:38.180
I was just telling her I'm in that generation too.
01:40:50.200
Bro, there's no generation where any guy who's like actually worth anything is going
01:40:56.740
to tolerate his girlfriend calling him a bitch.
01:41:02.700
I had a guy explain to me how he is going to call me a bitch because it's just a word.
01:41:19.680
No, I was going to say, even with you, when you're yelling at your man, you're literally
01:41:24.740
Whether you're frustrated or not, men do not listen if you're yelling at them.
01:41:28.080
There's coming to your man for a solution and there's coming at him.
01:41:31.700
When you come at him, he's not going to listen.
01:41:37.820
And it's funny because I feel like now, Jen, like you said, there's no good man.
01:41:46.200
You guys, it's the women aren't their masculine.
01:41:52.340
Where it's feminism has definitely ruined all of that.
01:41:58.500
There was, I don't know if you guys saw that article that there was some girl that was
01:42:02.220
drowning and the guy saved her, saved her life.
01:42:05.680
And then he was like, she was going to sue him for touching her.
01:42:11.120
It was like, oh, he touched me without my consent.
01:42:16.700
And she's like, well, for a brief moment, I was grateful that I was alive.
01:42:23.460
Because when they do the right thing, they get crucified.
01:42:32.080
If I don't, then it's like, so it literally comes.
01:42:54.180
Whoever the youngest person is who's watching this, you could be Gen Z.
01:43:01.980
Well, the youngest person watching this right now is eight months old.
01:43:15.980
If your girl calls you a bitch, that is an insta breakup.
01:43:20.980
You just say, even if you're in person with her, you just say, this conversation is over.
01:43:47.240
One for you and then one for the girl with the picnic dress.
01:43:56.120
For you, you say often, well, I wanted to go to these parties to hang out with my friends.
01:44:01.600
I wanted to go there to hang out with my friends.
01:44:04.500
Did you happen to have any exes who went to these parties as well?
01:44:20.640
When a man calls a woman a bitch is when a woman calls a man a bitch.
01:44:24.520
Would you say that if a man and you were sleeping together and in the throes of passion, you would
01:44:30.180
say something like, suck it, bitch, right, or something like that, that that would hit
01:44:35.000
I don't care less what any of these pedestrian parasites have to say.
01:44:38.920
Tonight's show should be an emergency meeting dedicated to Trump.
01:44:51.380
Yeah, it would have been good if we did a stream yesterday.
01:44:54.360
Would you say that that would hit the same way?
01:44:56.720
If in the throes of passion, he said something like that?
01:44:59.980
He said something like, called you a bitch or something like this?
01:45:11.680
I feel like that's when I'm my purest, most intimate self.
01:45:17.500
I feel like you should treat me with that same respect as well.
01:45:30.440
You think that that's him trying to insult you?
01:45:40.720
Clearly, there's instances where the word is used where the, I mean, the context always matters, right?
01:45:46.140
So it's not going to hit men the same way as it's going to hit women any more than, you know, somebody who was into getting degraded while they're having intercourse.
01:45:54.760
They might not like being called a bitch outside of that setting, but inside of it, maybe they're fine with it, right?
01:46:01.140
It's not okay inside of that setting or outside.
01:46:03.480
Because in that setting, you're most connected.
01:46:06.500
So if you allow that in a situation where you're most connected, like, you can't not expect it in every other situation.
01:46:16.420
If you're a freak in the bedroom and you want to be thrown around, call names, whatever it is, it stays there.
01:46:21.860
And then when you're outside, that's different.
01:46:24.600
But men, regardless, you do not call a man a bitch.
01:46:28.960
Well, that would be weird if you were, like, in the bedroom.
01:46:38.280
Yeah, but I mean, I still wouldn't even do that.
01:46:41.520
I would not let him speak to me while we're having a sexual intercourse.
01:46:54.440
He's going to call you whatever the hell he wants in the bedroom, and you ain't going to say a word about it, right?
01:46:59.600
Because he still hasn't learned to respect me outside of the bedroom.
01:47:03.820
That's what I was explaining to you earlier, is that as much as I wanted to be there, as much as I was putting myself in the positions to be around him, I still didn't be, like, with him because I knew that there was no respect there.
01:47:15.460
And what I'm saying is, regardless of if, like, a woman likes to be talked to a certain type of way in the bed, you're asking me, and I'm telling you that I don't, and I would not allow it because I don't allow it outside of the bedroom.
01:47:29.780
Okay, well, let's try it a different way, then.
01:47:33.220
Let's see if these two things hit the same way, okay?
01:47:36.420
So let's say that you called your man daddy in front of your father.
01:47:47.960
Do you think that that might, even though you call your father dad, right, or something, some variation of this, don't you think it might hit him a little differently the second we have different context around this?
01:48:03.440
No, no, no, the point isn't whether or not you would do it.
01:48:05.540
The point is whether or not you could see how there would be different context and why it would be bothersome, even if you're using the same word.
01:48:17.120
I wouldn't say that, like, outside of just me and him.
01:48:20.860
Like, I know I'm telling you guys, like, I called him fat daddy, but I wouldn't call him that in front of other people.
01:48:28.020
If you called your dad fat daddy, would it hit him a little different, do you think?
01:48:33.540
Yes, it would, because I don't see my dad like that.
01:48:35.340
Yes, it would, so context matters, context matters.
01:48:38.900
So he would over your dad, and you're like, hey, fat daddy, have a sandwich that made you fat dad.
01:48:45.520
My dad was never fat, so I wouldn't call him that.
01:48:48.360
I specifically called my ex that, because he used to be fat when we got together.
01:48:53.140
No, I get it, but if you went to your father, and you were like, hey, you know, I made you this delicious.
01:48:58.020
I made you this sandwich on this nice Saturday so you can relax.
01:49:02.100
Do you think that he would take it the same way that you're, no, of course not, right?
01:49:08.280
I don't understand what you're trying to get at here.
01:49:12.900
What I'm trying to get at is that the reason I'm saying you can use the same word, and it can be more derogatory towards one person than it is another, is because context matters.
01:49:23.000
That's why when Brian says, look, he disagrees.
01:49:26.420
If you say bitch to a woman, it doesn't hit the same as when you say it to a man.
01:49:35.860
No, I said that calling a woman a bitch is terrible and calling a man a bitch is terrible.
01:49:47.400
It's not equally disrespectful because it hits them different.
01:49:50.660
Just like it would hit your dad different if you called him fat daddy versus your ex, you see?
01:49:59.360
You shouldn't be putting disrespect on a level of how disrespectful it is.
01:50:02.560
No, they're only disrespectful depending on context.
01:50:06.700
And I just gave you multiple times where there could be context where you use a word where it's not considered disrespectful.
01:50:12.560
Perhaps your pet name for a chick, like you called this guy fat daddy, is dumb bitch.
01:50:25.300
It's still disrespectful even though, but calling your ex fat daddy isn't.
01:50:31.940
That was something that we talked about and something that he was okay with.
01:50:36.260
Yeah, so if she's okay with it, hang on, hang on.
01:50:39.200
If she's okay with it, then how could it be disrespectful?
01:50:46.680
If you have a situation, stop, stop, stop talking for a second.
01:50:50.000
The reason I'm asking you to stop is because you're not hearing what I'm saying.
01:50:57.440
He says, my new pet name for you is dumb bitch.
01:51:06.140
Is it still disrespectful for him to call her that?
01:51:12.180
Right, but that's my point is that within the frame of context, different words hit people differently.
01:51:18.980
And the bottom line is you just don't call a guy a bitch unless you want him to...
01:51:22.660
Here, I'll give you the best example ever, like the easiest example ever, right?
01:51:31.520
If someone feels disrespected by what you're saying...
01:51:38.760
No, I want you to listen to me so that you can understand.
01:51:45.680
So if someone tells you something and they feel disrespected by me, then it's disrespectful.
01:51:52.100
But if they say it's okay, then that's okay on their end.
01:51:58.560
If I tell anybody to stop talking, I need you to stop talking.
01:52:02.280
So because it's what's going to happen, Andrew's going to say his piece.
01:52:10.360
So I'm just going to give you the easiest example of this ever so that there's no confusion at all.
01:52:15.240
Would it hit a black person differently if a white person called them the N-word than if a black person called them the N-word?
01:52:22.880
I've been having this conversation with the people around me.
01:52:31.380
I've been having this conversation a lot with the people around me.
01:52:34.620
A recent coworker of mine, he told me that it is just as disrespectful because if it's a degrading word when someone else says it, then it's a degrading word when we say it to each other.
01:52:49.820
My question isn't whether or not it's disrespectful.
01:52:51.620
My question is, would it hit differently if a white person called a black person the N-word versus if a black person called a black person the N-word?
01:53:06.020
Nobody's ever going to believe that in a million years.
01:53:08.800
No, but you're not listening to what I just said.
01:53:11.540
I just had a conversation with a previous coworker of mine.
01:53:15.300
And I called him a nigga, and he said, that's very disrespectful.
01:53:20.260
I said, no, it would have been disrespectful if somebody who wasn't able to say that said that to you.
01:53:25.820
He let me know that that's disrespectful for me to say that to him as well because if it's degrading on somebody else saying it, then it's degrading on me saying it.
01:53:34.360
So are you going to stop listening to rap music?
01:53:39.920
Yeah, but I mean, listen to how logical this is.
01:53:42.920
It's like saying, well, I'm not going to listen to rap music anymore because it says the word in it.
01:53:48.000
What I'm saying is that I didn't think like that before.
01:53:51.280
I thought exactly what you're expecting me to think right now, but when someone had the conversation with me and they let me know that it's just as degrading for me to say it to him, knowing that I'm the same race as him for someone else to say it to him, and they're a different race, that changed my mindset.
01:54:09.720
That changed my perspective on it because it's true.
01:54:13.060
If someone else were to say that, I need to take that same initiative and understand that it's degrading.
01:54:17.940
You don't have to reaffirm the same point five times.
01:54:20.980
I just want to very quickly follow up with this.
01:54:24.160
Do you think that if you were to ask 1,000 random black people in the street, just 1,000 random black people, would it hurt you worse if a white person called you the n-word than if a black person called you the n-word?
01:54:52.180
I was the person who thought exactly what you're saying.
01:54:55.800
Like, okay, if a white person calls me a n-word, it's bad.
01:54:58.960
But if a black person calls me a n-word, it's a n-word.
01:55:04.060
I was able to change my mindset because when I did that to someone, they let me know that it's just as degrading.
01:55:12.380
The thing with it is you're not listening, though.
01:55:27.800
It's literally if a person, if a white person calls you the n-word versus a black person, it's a lot more.
01:55:33.600
But not everything when they say you have the card.
01:55:48.280
We didn't ever pull this up, which is the video you want.
01:56:08.700
I know you're rating over there on SOD phase four.
01:56:13.960
Guys, if you're watching on Twitch, drops a follow on Twitch.
01:56:19.860
And if you have a prime sub, drops a prime sub.
01:56:24.380
In your TikTok, you said when you date to marry.
01:56:27.280
So, I mean, for you, what does it mean to date to marry?
01:56:35.460
You date someone to potentially end up marrying them.
01:56:43.440
Like, how do you carry yourself in a relationship to date to marry versus just date to date?
01:56:51.740
Well, obviously, I've never been married either, but there's characteristics.
01:57:00.460
If you pictured your husband, right, what are those characteristics?
01:57:03.800
If you, as a wife, as someone who wants to be married, what are the characteristics that you think you should have to date to marry?
01:57:12.560
Yeah, well, if I picture my husband and me as a wife, I would picture me as caring, loving, takes care of things around the house while also trying to make income.
01:57:23.800
Because I, in the future, I want to live in a household that has dual income, if possible.
01:57:39.480
Like, if you can't keep a job, then I don't want to be with someone like that.
01:57:47.020
So, the guy that you said broke up with you, he refused to buy you a vape.
01:57:53.380
He obviously wasn't totally okay with you vaping.
01:57:56.520
And he didn't want to buy it for you because he didn't essentially want to break the law.
01:58:04.300
Because that shows that he takes care of himself and he's also, you know, willing to, like, be straight as far as following the law, doing all of those things right.
01:58:16.580
So, maybe you kind of have to change the way that you're putting yourself out there.
01:58:21.440
And you will find that man that you mentioned in the TikTok without moving because I know you mentioned that a lot of them, like, live far away.
01:58:35.700
That was actually a good point because, I mean, one of the things with the vape, in addition to it being illegal, it sounded like he had an issue with your, are you addicted to nicotine?
01:58:49.100
You could quit if you were, how often do you vape?
01:58:52.540
Like, I'm planning on, like, stop, like, not vaping when school starts again.
01:59:12.620
Just because I know that I've been doing it for a long while, and I see that since it's not affecting the outside of my body, I don't see it as a bad thing, but I know internally it's hurting me, so I want to quit once school starts.
01:59:26.900
But, I mean, so this guy who, he didn't want to do something illegal, but he also wanted to see you do something healthy by quitting the vaping, wouldn't that be, like, positive?
01:59:44.340
Positive, husband material, positive characteristic?
01:59:47.500
Well, yeah, it was positive, but regardless, I still wanted to do it, and I hoped that he would understand that.
01:59:55.040
Right, but he was trying to do something, like, he was trying to help you, he was looking out for you.
02:00:01.440
You called him a bitch, and it's gone into an argument.
02:00:03.320
Do you think that maybe it was because you felt like he was controlling that aspect of your life, and you didn't like that feeling?
02:00:10.400
It did, because in the argument, he was making it a point that since I was younger than him, I was naive, and I didn't like that.
02:00:23.980
Well, I mean, that's not a massive age thing, but...
02:00:44.300
Well, like, at this day, who doesn't vape anymore?
02:00:48.000
I vaped at one point, and then I didn't, like, literally.
02:00:51.360
If everybody was shooting up heroin, would you do that?
02:00:55.140
But the thing, the logic of it doesn't make sense.
02:00:56.940
If you already know that it's not good for you, why not cut it now and wait till school?
02:01:01.620
Like, it's just, I think the mentality of it is you want to do what you want to do, and
02:01:06.800
it comes to, I don't know, I don't want to say insecurity, but it's like thinking that
02:01:13.420
it's control when somebody wants something good for you.
02:01:16.660
And I'll be honest, in my 20s, I wanted to do what I wanted to do.
02:01:19.180
I don't want to be told what I want to do, because it's that stubborn, it's the, you
02:01:23.640
still have a, you know, you want to, you want to be your independent woman, don't tell me
02:01:28.860
But really, when it comes down to it, if you're looking for a husband, a husband is a leader,
02:01:33.900
is somebody that, I think there's that word of submit, which triggers a lot of people.
02:01:38.480
But when you come to, if you want a husband who is a true leader, true provider, means
02:01:43.420
you trust him to relinquish control and trust that he's going to make the right decisions
02:01:47.900
You submit to that man in a sense that he's going to take care of me, and the decisions
02:01:51.760
that he's making for me is the best decisions for us, for me.
02:02:01.760
Vaping is not a good look for him, because all those things are going to make you better.
02:02:04.880
And that is the qualities that you do want in a man, because he's making the right decisions
02:02:12.540
Because he's like, I want this woman, and I want the best version of her.
02:02:14.960
Because in relationships, you make each other better.
02:02:16.640
So those are qualities that you should look for.
02:02:19.160
And I think you say you want to date to marry, you're not even remotely ready for that.
02:02:23.260
But I think it's just a matter of working on yourself and realizing that when you truly
02:02:27.580
want a man, you have to be ready to, if he's the right man that leads, protects, all of
02:02:34.240
that, then you can submit to him and trust him to make decisions for you.
02:02:37.580
So you had an issue with him trying to, you said like it was controlling or whatever?
02:02:48.880
Well, like I said before, he made it a point that since I was younger than him, that I
02:03:02.080
So would you, do girls get naive and stubborn when they're upset?
02:03:11.180
I mean, there's a difference between bossing and leading too.
02:03:13.640
So I mean, you could, it just goes back and forth.
02:03:17.020
It's like you weren't, you didn't want that relationship period.
02:03:33.380
Like the U.S. was actually doing pretty, in terms of its, no offense, Andrew.
02:03:39.260
It's, it's, was moving towards this very anti-tobacco.
02:03:43.920
Like it was, it was super stigmatized throughout the 2000s.
02:03:52.940
We've been trying to change that slowly, but surely.
02:03:58.820
And then the vapes came in and pretty much destroyed like a generation basically and got
02:04:08.480
I don't even think you guys know what that is, but it's like the genre.
02:04:13.720
So I used to smoke before, like when they used to crackle, like back in the day.
02:04:17.620
And like when you smoke and all those in the, in the social settings you smoke, but when
02:04:23.040
you're vaping, you're 24 seven, you're like pumping those things.
02:04:27.000
And you're like, whether it's zero nicotine or it has anything, it's crazy.
02:04:30.320
Cause there was a time that I was like, I started doing the vaping too.
02:04:32.940
And I was like, I feel like I'm doing it way more than I would have smoked.
02:04:39.780
Anyways, um, going back to your original tick tock, you also said when you date to marry,
02:04:47.940
Um, so have you had personal experiences of men like cheating on you or lying?
02:04:54.420
Um, how many men would you say you've dated who've cheated on you?
02:05:00.840
And then you, how many men have you dated who didn't cheat on you?
02:05:09.940
I guess I was, I was over exaggerating in the tick tock.
02:05:16.300
I don't think we have it pulled up, but it says it was like a song or something.
02:05:28.600
Was there a guy in mind when you, for that one or?
02:05:46.080
So like when women say that they're like lonely, can't find a boy, can't find a guy, should
02:05:54.760
Yeah, this is kind of, yeah, this is kind of like, oh, I think this is women's experience.
02:06:11.100
You've got like 10 suitors, dozens of suitors, but you just reject them.
02:06:17.660
It's because everyone, women have such high expectations of, unrealistic high expectations
02:06:27.060
I just think that, I mean, social media, I think plays a lot into this, but I mean,
02:06:33.000
even, I own a salon, so you probably know this, lots of women coming through lots of conversations.
02:06:38.640
Um, and it's just, you know, he isn't tall enough.
02:06:45.220
And it's like, what happened to meeting a genuine person and growing together personally?
02:06:57.120
You, I think there was another one, another TikTok.
02:06:59.880
You said, don't lead people on for three months, bro.
02:07:12.600
He said himself that he led him, that he led me on.
02:07:21.660
Because he ultimately decided he wasn't ready for a relationship when he thought he was.
02:07:28.580
Yeah, that's after you called him a bitch though.
02:07:32.220
I mean, maybe it was just, that's like, it's like, it wasn't, it's not you, it's me.
02:07:36.980
Yeah, it was like, you don't want to, you want to.
02:07:39.320
It's like, yeah, it's an exit strategy for sure.
02:07:42.360
Yeah, he was probably just trying to let you down easy.
02:07:57.400
It seems like if a guy's not willing to commit or he ends a existing relationship, he's almost
02:08:03.420
always framed as the bad guy for wanting to end a relationship.
02:08:09.580
Whereas it, it occurs to me that women reserve the right at any moment to end a relationship
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Frankly, I think anybody can end any relationship for any reason.
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You, you can date somebody or choose to not date somebody for any reason.
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Everybody has their own preferences, standards, and boundaries.
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Did you end things with a guy because he did something wrong?
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Okay, so then why is it that when you end things with a guy,
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it's because he did something wrong, but when a guy ends something with you,
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Because when I end things with a guy, I give the guy chances to fix his mistakes,
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Just, like, if I notice, like, patterns, like, he's not putting in effort or things like that.
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Well, that's, I suppose, nice of you, but you're not required to do that.
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I'm not, but I'm the type of person to have hope in things.
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Yeah, but I feel like he told you, if his reason was that he doesn't want to party girl,
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You called him a bitch, and that was, he was done in that moment.
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It's like, okay, if a guy breaks up with you after dating you for three months, six months, whatever,
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But if a girl breaks up with a guy after three, six months, however long, it's for reasons.
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It's just, I feel like that's the ego of, like, being led on.
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But it's not leading, I don't think it's leading somebody on if you break up with somebody for a reason.
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Like, if you, you can't be led on, unless their intentions are different,
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unless they're telling you they want certain, they want you to be a girlfriend, marriage, all these things,
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and then that's not really their intention, and they're just trying to hook up with you.
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But if it's, if you both decide that, hey, this is the person I want,
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and you're moving toward a relationship, and you want the same goals,
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and that's why it's important to talk about values and goals and what you want in the beginning.
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So, you're not led on, because you know exactly what you're getting.
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So, with everything that we're telling you, do you agree?
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I'm soaking it all in, and I'm, like, reminiscing.
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Because I know, right now, I am young, and so I do make stupid decisions sometimes.
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You're young, but you're still an adult, so you're capable of doing everything.
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You were capable of doing it right from the start.
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Like, have you, obviously, said date to marry, but do you want to get married really young?
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Do you, are you wanting to have a family young, or, I mean, because you are young right now,
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so it's totally fine to party while you're young, if you want to get married a little
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later, but are you looking to get married, like, very early?
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I wouldn't say, like, early, like, probably when I'm done with college.
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I mean, I would just say, if you should look at what type of husband you want, and that
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goes with, like, lifestyle, travel, party, everything, and it's kind of like showing up
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So, if you show up to a job interview in your pajamas, you're probably not going to get the
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If you want someone to accept you in your pajamas, you're going to have to get a job
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So, you know, you can't just go into something wanting this really good husband and be like,
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well, just accept my baby and I'm partying, you know, unless that's the type of guy that
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I dream of getting married when I graduate college, too, as well.
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I think that we should just take this time to, like, really, like, learn about ourselves
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and what mistakes we can make, even if that's, like, choosing our needs first.
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Like, I have, like, not talked to people because they took my vape or, like, they didn't want
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Like, trust me, you're not alone when it comes to that.
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And, like, if we are, like, looking for someone that wants to spend the rest of their lives
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And, like, what are we going to do to make it a better situation for us to be in a relationship?
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Like, I feel like we should, like, take, like, deep looks at ourselves.
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And, like, just notice, like, even, like, calling him, like, a certain type of name and
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Like, maybe thinking about, okay, well, would it be okay if he did that to me?
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Like, yelling at people, like, burning their stuff.
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Like, just kind of, like, asking ourselves, like, how we can move forward without, like,
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hurting the other person, even if it's really small or even if it's really big.
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Most women have been indoctrinated and brainwashed into this unfounded belief and wonder why Mictor
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Really quick on the whole, like, don't lead people on thing.
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Like, this is, again, just going back to my confusion here.
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So, would it be leading a woman on if I told her I want long-term, I desire some marriage,
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want a long-term relationship, but then I get, she gets the commitment, she gets the
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commitment, but then she, like, nobody's obliged to stay with somebody really for any
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But if we're dating for six months and then, like, out of the blue, she just, like, starts,
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I can't even, calls me a bitch or I'm trying to think of an extreme example, murders my
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Is it leading her on if I break up with her after she's gone and murdered my entire family?
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Even though I told her I wanted a long-term relationship.
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So, I guess my thing is, it's not leading a girl on to say that you're going to, you want
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to date her, but then she behaves in ways or does things that you don't like.
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No more, and I wouldn't, a woman could break up with, this isn't like a double standard thing.
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A woman can break up with a guy because he's being lazy or whatever the reasons are that
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If you're an adult, you're making a decision to be somewhere with someone.
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I'm saying in that situation, like, trying to just play devil's advocate, but you really
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People, you kind of, like, grow, either you grow together or you grow apart.
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And I think the other thing, damn, I totally just slipped my mind.
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It was going to blow all your minds, but it just, like, just left my mind.
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So if it comes back to me later, um, I guess I'll, uh, think about it.
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Uh, yeah, we can, actually, let me pull up a couple chats first and then we'll, all right.
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My third cousin just sadly got divorced and he has two kids.
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Ladies, would you sign a legal contract that said whoever initiates divorce is entitled to nothing?
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Would you sign a legal contract that said whoever initiates divorce is entitled to nothing?
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Uh, going around the table, would you sign that contract?
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So if I, my husband told me to stay at home with the kids and I stayed at home and then divorced, probably not.
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So it depends on what type of marriage or what situation we were going into.
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Uh, if we were both working, yes, I would sign it.
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I think I would sign it only because if I'm prepared to leave the relationship, the marriage,
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I have to know at the back of my mind that could be losing everything.
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Um, well, I would just like to say cancel, not cancel.
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And I would just say, like, over time, the heart changes.
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So if someone falls out of love, it's not really their fault.
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Because if someone wants to divorce me because they're no longer in love with me,
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Like, that's something that you have to continue to work on over years.
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that's something that you're committing to them for the rest of your life.
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And you're going to work through the ups and downs.
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But I'm not going to stay in something that I know is not working.
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Even if we try, we go to counseling, we do this.
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Like, I see marriages that are not healthy for the children.
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But I don't want to sit with someone I'm not happy with.
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Okay, but so the question is, whoever initiates divorce is entitled to nothing.
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You are entitled, you feel entitled to something and divorce.
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If we both have kids, then yeah, we need to take care of our children.
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Like, split the house, split whatever we need to split.
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So, like, let's say you're out earning your husband.
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If you were out earning your husband and he wanted to divorce you,
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you're fine, like, paying him alimony, child support, et cetera?
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Like, overall, just being prepared and if both of us are working.
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I would because I think that if you're having too many doubts about signing that,
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you probably shouldn't be making a lifelong commitment to that person
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because a lot of people, especially younger nowadays,
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just go into marriage with the idea of, like, oh, well, you know,
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That should not even be something you are thinking about at all when you're going
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I would only sign it depending on the circumstance.
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However, if I was a stay-at-home mom and let's say he cheated,
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And I think that I wouldn't sign it if he betrayed our marriage.
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So, I think the original, like, 50-50 was because of families, right?
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But now a lot of people aren't having families anymore,
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But you should talk about this if you're going to get married to someone
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And that's why you shouldn't get married as a guy, I think.
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Who's going to take care of you when you're old?
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So, who objects to my don't-get-married position?
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No, I think marriage, too many people just do it just to do it.
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I think marriage is something people should think about as far as lifestyle, beliefs, family, all that stuff.
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And that's why, for me, when I get married, if I get married, then it's-
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I put my all-in, my relationships letter on the marriage, where when I'm married, I don't believe in divorces.
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I'm one of those, through the good and the bad, I will stand by you.
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So, I know as a wife, I will stand by you no matter what.
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But I mean, not to poke too much here, but you said your longest relationship was three years.
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Because you're 40, I mean, you haven't really, I'm not poking at your age, but I mean, that's a, you have not had like a substantially long-term relationship.
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Well, I was celibate for about five years that I didn't want to in between those two relationships.
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Yeah, these were, to me, serious relationships where I tried.
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Three is decent, but I mean, it's not like super long, you know?
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We tried, and I gave it my all, and the person wasn't ready to give me what I wanted.
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Now, I think you guys had maybe some disagreements on the marriage stuff.
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Yeah, I originally, when I messaged, that was one of the questions that I'd answered, and I said, I was like, oh, that's so sad that you don't want to get married.
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However, I listened to one of your podcasts, and I can't remember exactly what you had said, but just kind of you saying, I'm not super religious, so I can't even stand on the whole, you know, I'm religious, and I think that's why people should get married.
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But I do think, for me, personally, you're going into it 100%.
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It's divorce isn't an option, so for me, that's kind of like that last, like, seal, but no different than, like, a prenup or something like that, too.
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I understand why you don't want to get married, just because people, I think, it's more disposable for a lot of people than some.
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And I can't remember exactly what you said in your podcast, or in one of the shows, as to why you didn't want to get married.
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If I remember correctly, I think that he said something along the lines of, even if you have a prenup, there's a good chance that it could get thrown out, and she could still take, like, half of everything that he has.
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If you're not religious, and, you know, it doesn't hold a lot of value to you, then don't get married.
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I have a lot of justifications for my anti-marriage stance.
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I actually don't object to it for people who are religious, but from my own self, outside of religious reasons to get married, I actually don't really see any reason to get married.
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But I'm open to hearing any challenges to my position.
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I think you two raised your hands in objection.
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So, let's say you have a long-term girlfriend who's loyal to you, and she's pregnant.
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I don't know if you have any children, but if not, that'll be your first child.
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And she's asking you for commitment and security.
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She doesn't want to think that you'll leave her for another woman and get another woman pregnant, and that's why she wants marriage.
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Saying she wants to get married because, wow, this is a really traditional relationship where she gets pregnant out of wedlock.
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But, I mean, we're already not a traditional arrangement to begin with.
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So, what will us being married achieve that – oh, so her.
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If you want to convince me as a man to get married, how do I stand to benefit?
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Okay, if you're – if we're together, I'm assuming we're in love.
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So, if you love me and you love our future child, I want a house together.
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I don't want you to leave me for another woman and get her pregnant and go and do the same thing with her that you're doing with me.
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I mean, I guess being the man of the house, I would assume –
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Was your argument – was your argument, if I love her enough, I should get married to her?
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If she loves me enough, she should stay with me despite my desires to not get married.
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You don't want to give me the security that I desire?
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Why can't I be committed to her outside of marriage?
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I can present to you reasons why I'm not really for marriage.
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I would actually like, though, to hear – I think this is a good starting point.
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Can you present to me compelling and convincing arguments why I or other men should get married?
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I think the first thing that came to mind is that how serious a real man is.
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So if you are a real man who stands on his word, you stand on your word, you stand on what you do in life, and you say, hey, you're the one I want.
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And I want to live the rest of my life with you.
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Show by your actions you have the action to put my hand in wedlock as in a commitment.
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Let me give you a very quick, easy rebuttal to this, and I'm just curious.
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So let's assume the man says, you're the one that I want forever.
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I want to only be with you for the rest of my life, and I want to commit to that.
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Will you commit to give him a prenup so that if you divorce him, you get nothing?
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Would you commit to a prenup so that you get nothing if there was a divorce?
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I don't agree with someone signing into marriage and not getting anything.
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If you both put in work and you just leave the marriage with nothing, I don't think that's fair.
02:27:37.880
Well, that's really quite the strange argument then to say, well, wait.
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I expect this lifetime commitment from you in order to prove and demonstrate that you love me.
02:27:52.500
Couldn't you demonstrate that you were equally as serious by saying, it's fine.
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I would sign a prenup because I know what I'm doing in life.
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If you ask a question, you have to give me a second to answer the question.
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So if the argument is to say, hey, I need a commitment from a man so he only picks me, okay, that's it.
02:28:23.380
Couldn't the man then equally say that the demonstration from the woman to show that she loves him is that there's any sort of infidelity, cold bed, or financial irresponsibility, things like this, she leaves with nothing regardless of who initiates the divorce.
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Because that's just showing, like, you're trying to say, okay, I'm going to be a real man to you, but I want to make sure you have my back no matter if you change as a person.
02:28:46.960
You signing this is showing me you're real, that you would never do this.
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Like, if you do cheat on me, if you do not take care of your money, if you do not take care of my kids, do not take care of me as your husband, then, yeah, that's on her as a wife.
02:28:58.080
Then why would there be a requirement of marriage at all?
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So if you made the commitment external to marriage, how is that not the exact same thing as you're making a commitment in marriage?
02:29:14.960
It's like saying, okay, we're dating is the same thing as us being married.
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If you ask the question, you have to let me answer it.
02:29:30.560
So the question which was asked is, how is this the same?
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So if you are dating, you say, I want to commit to you for life, but I just don't want to do the marriage thing.
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And if we do do the marriage thing, there's not going to be any protections for you anyway because you agree to sign them all away.
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It's like comparing a baby mama to a wife or like this is my wife and this is my kid or this is my baby mama and we live together.
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I don't see why you couldn't have a commitment with a woman.
02:30:10.120
It would logically be the exact same to say I'm married to you or I'm committing to you for life and you have the same exact outcome both ways.
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It's absolutely not the same thing because marriage is a vow.
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If you don't take your word seriously as a man, hey, I would love to, I want to be with you the rest of my life.
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Marriage is holy because you're actually taking it home and putting in your protection over for your life and your death.
02:30:48.960
Yeah, that's what we're talking about is secular marriage.
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It's taking your body, your mind, and everything into this person.
02:30:54.680
The problem is you're arguing against arguments I'm not making.
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We're talking about specifically secular marriage.
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I could take an estimated guess, but I just said please inform me.
02:31:14.160
Okay, then take an estimated guess, as you put it.
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It would be an educated guess, but you could take an estimated guess.
02:31:21.920
What is your estimated guess about what secular means?
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Secular, that would be like a-religious, not religious.
02:31:53.820
Never heard of the term, but thank you for educating me.
02:32:01.580
In any, well, what tense have you heard secular in?
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I feel like if you're married and you have a baby mama, that's the same.
02:32:36.920
So, I've yet to hear an actual compelling argument why I should get married.
02:32:47.140
If you want seven kids, what's the last name for the children?
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And would it bother you, since she's the one carrying them, if she just said, well, I want
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them to have the same last name as me, and now you did not share the same last name as
02:33:09.500
First off, you don't need to be married in order for your children to take your last name.
02:33:18.600
Now she doesn't share the same last name as her own children.
02:33:25.240
Why would the kids take your last name instead of your girlfriend?
02:33:41.360
And she can protect us in the event of a home invasion.
02:33:47.620
Yes, you can put the father's last name on the birth certificate, even if you're not
02:33:53.980
But who gets to choose the last name is what I'm saying.
02:33:58.480
So, if you were to say, we're in a committed relationship, and I want the children before
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we have them to have my last name, and you agree to it, why would that require marriage?
02:34:12.860
But the thing is, is like what she's saying is these questions wouldn't even happen if you're
02:34:17.180
Even if we're fucking married, she can still say, she doesn't want my name.
02:34:26.000
Even if we're married, she can say, I want hyphenation.
02:34:32.300
I think if you are going to get married, that's why I don't think marriage is for everyone,
02:34:35.240
but if you are going to get married, you should talk about these things.
02:34:38.740
It may not be for you, but I know if I had kids, it would really bother me if they didn't
02:34:43.220
And I also don't believe in hyphenating names, so I took my husband's last name.
02:34:47.140
So, if I'm pregnant with your child, and you don't want to get married to me, I'm going
02:34:50.820
to just leave you and go to the next with your child in my stomach.
02:34:54.200
But no, it's like, I want to find someone that's going to build a family with me.
02:34:59.600
You're not putting a ring on it like Beyonce said.
02:35:01.500
So, what's the point of me and you being together?
02:35:06.960
Like, oh, I'm playing wife and husband, but you're not trying to commit.
02:35:15.160
You still fail to make a compelling reason why I ought to get married.
02:35:20.860
Like, if you want your woman to stay with you for a woman, I know.
02:35:26.220
I have not heard a compelling reason why I, as a man, should get married.
02:35:29.780
You said you want someone to take care of you when you're old.
02:35:37.480
You're like, oh, my monogamous girlfriend or something like that.
02:35:40.060
That was a question posed to me by somebody else.
02:35:47.260
I have one point that I feel like you can debunk it if you like.
02:35:51.040
But if you love someone, you truly love them to the bottom of your heart,
02:35:55.880
and you want to be with them for the rest of your life,
02:36:08.520
It could be something sacred, like going to a temple
02:36:10.840
or just going to Hawaii and having some person.
02:36:15.020
I feel like relationship is regardless sacred, too.
02:36:16.880
Yeah, but that's why the example is non-religious.
02:36:24.960
Yeah, if it's non-religious, then it doesn't matter.
02:36:41.320
So if there is no religious or spiritual backing
02:36:59.580
Well, yeah, I mean, if you want the protection provider.
02:37:12.960
Well, that's because women are a lot more masculine
02:38:35.860
What attitude do you bring to the relationship?
02:39:07.120
no, I'm talking about as in just non-religious,
03:52:43.960
Torture and mutilation versus how many stitches does it take after pregnancy?
03:52:54.860
Not all women require stitches after pregnancy.
03:53:05.240
It doesn't keep up with the rest of your aging body.
03:53:09.800
The older you get, especially with clothes off.
03:53:15.960
I think this is a two-pronged approach here with the plastic surgery shit.
03:53:20.240
Men need to shame other men for gassing up women who have plastic surgery.
03:53:28.400
And then they also need to shame the women too.
03:53:31.340
The issue is the ones with good plastic surgery men don't know that they have plastic surgery.
03:53:35.780
It's very minimal tweaks where you still allow wrinkles and still allow it to the people who don't.
03:53:40.660
I ain't never seen a BBL where I'm like, that's not a BBL.
03:53:57.820
Well, what I'm saying is like, you can't always tell if they've had it.
03:54:04.440
Like, you can tell if the tip of the nose is all fucked up.
03:54:07.800
But like, a lot of times, if the surgeon, like, you can't tell.
03:54:20.220
So we have, going back to Jessica, you said, one thing I've always found entertaining to
03:54:29.540
ask my girlfriends are what are their hard no, hard no's for dating.
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For example, you meet a guy online, they're attractive, successful, everything you'd want
03:54:37.580
But when you meet them, you find out one thing that is a hard no and makes you not want to
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So I need you guys to like, you know, like drop us a follow in a prime sub boys.
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When, when they don't, when they send you like the subs or whatever, what does that mean?
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If they're giving you like 10 subs, like can people, or is it actual people?
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It's just like, they're just gifting that to you.
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No, they're gifting it to people who are watching.
03:55:52.960
So if you're watching the stream on Twitch and there's gifted subs that go out, like people who
03:56:12.740
Something you find out where you're just like, I absolutely not.
03:56:22.680
But I think cyclist is a certain type of personality that's very entitled and don't care about
03:56:52.760
And I think that is going to transfer over to a lifestyle of just like an entitled little
03:57:23.820
One that I'm teaching myself is if you don't have a legitimate job.
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And by that, I mean trapping and drug dealing and hurting people, that is a hard no.
03:57:36.520
So I'm still teaching myself that as far as having a legitimate job, that could also
03:57:42.640
be taking the steps to follow your dreams, even if you don't have any money in the process.
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But just making sure that you know what you're going after.
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So a no is not, I have a no if you don't know what you want, like, or if you're not willing
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Because if you can't take care of yourself, and I like someone, I don't necessarily need
03:58:13.200
someone who's, like, shredded or whatever it is.
03:58:15.640
But it's like somebody who takes care of themselves and the hygiene, because that goes hand in
03:58:18.700
If you can't take care of yourself, how am I going to trust you to take care of me?
03:58:22.420
Is there, like, a specific job that is a hard no for you?
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I mean, honestly, the law enforcement, it's, because sometimes those guys can get excited
03:58:36.120
That's, and then they have too much power, as in they can check my background.
03:58:51.700
I'm not really sure if I should say this, because I don't want anyone to get mad at
03:59:01.280
Oh, well, it's kind of like their political stance.
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Like, if they're not, like, free Palestine, I cannot talk to you.
03:59:15.720
Did we just have to instantly go to social justice right away?
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I don't want to say it, but it's my only thing.
03:59:39.960
I would just say, if you're not funny, I like a good joke, and I laugh at almost everything.
03:59:51.020
I'm going to second her on bisexual, and I'm going to second you on the hygiene and, yeah,
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He has to be hardworking, have ambition, and kind of fall into my political views somewhat.
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Definitely hygiene, and if you don't have ambition, for sure.
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Oh, I already asked you, but, like, jobs that are hard no's for you guys?
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I have, like, a bunch of friends who marry firefighters, and, like, they just, like, cheat
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on everyone's wives with each other, and it's, like, not my...
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Not all of them are like that, but I don't think I would be able to do it.
04:00:52.640
I hear, like, the truck driver reputation is, like, they all do drugs or something.
04:00:56.420
No, it's, like, they just all do everything because they have to be in every place.
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Like, if you ask the children of a truck driver, they'll tell you the truth.
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I'm not friends with her no more, but her dad was a truck driver, and she like, man, I
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Yeah, every truck stop, there's a seat that's dropped.
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Could that apply to, like, a flight attendant or, like, a pilot?
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Pilots are notorious for being, like, I think the biggest whores.
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I definitely wouldn't want a guy that made less than I do.
04:01:44.320
You know, I do like the male-female role, so I don't really care about going shopping
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or going on, like, lavish trips or anything, but I definitely like viewing the guy like a
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provider, and I went that route with some past relationships where because I made good
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money, I didn't care about what they did, and, I mean, honestly, it gets to you after a while.
04:02:02.800
I think you start looking at them in a feminine light, and I now realize how important it is
04:02:07.940
to see a guy like a man, and so, I mean, I like the alpha man, so I don't really necessarily
04:02:14.420
It's more about his drive, and it's, the drive is important, too, because if they are a trust
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funder and they don't have the drive because they were handed everything, that could all
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I think that discipline is so important to a man that doesn't have any discipline.
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Like, I don't think I would be able to trust him at all.
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I think it goes into other parts of their lives, too, and it's work, you know?
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Thoughts on what happened in Pennsylvania yesterday around the table?
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Well, hang on, hang on, we'll wait, we'll wait, we'll wait for Brian to get back on
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I'm pro-Trump, so, yeah, I think it's disgusting what happened.
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Under no circumstances does that happen, not even close, not even in the same
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universe, not even in any alternative universe.
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If you were a scientist who postulated one billion different universes which were
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parallel mapped onto this one, in all of those, a woman still never saved Trump's
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No, I literally seen something that said that, that's why I asked.
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Yeah, well, I just wanted to make sure that I was completely clear with you so that
04:03:54.220
So, what are your, like, thoughts on it, though?
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Trump, a lot of people, I've seen something where, like, a lot of people like Trump because
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he was giving us, like, free money and, like, checks and stuff.
04:04:09.460
I don't have, like, an exact political status on Trump.
04:04:15.780
So, I feel that as long as, like, he's not hurting anybody and nobody's hurting him, then
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What happened yesterday, whether you like him or not, that is probably, he secured,
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And that photo of him just raising his fists up in the air is probably the most legendary
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He's been doing some legendary stuff, like, even going to prison in Atlanta.
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I would just say he does a lot of iconic and historic things.
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The man is a legend, whether you like him or not.
04:04:59.160
I would say I, like, sympathize with him because I was in a situation in Atlanta where I got
04:05:07.140
And it was, like, a really, it was not, like, his.
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And it was a shootout in front of my college, Georgia State.
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That's the deadliest problem in the United States is a .22.
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It was during the Trump era, 2020, when he was in election.
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And is that what caused the, was that what caused the situation?
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Yeah, it was during his, it was during his election or something.
04:05:56.620
I forget what was happening, but he was stirring up a, there was rallies in Georgia and it was
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I don't know, remember exactly what happened, but it was 2020.
04:06:06.240
And it took me four years to recover and like have the bullet get out my head.
04:06:14.780
Um, and it was, um, it took four years for it to grow out my head.
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So I, I went to a neurosurgeon and they said that they were going to have to shave my hair
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off if I wanted to take the bullet out or I could just suffer pain for until it grows
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And I just decided to just suffer the pain because I didn't want to shave my head.
04:06:36.760
And they said there was a risk that I would have a twitch in my face due to the surgery.
04:06:44.620
So it was this, uh, this state that you were in when this happened, did it by chance have
04:07:11.200
It was at the same mayor of Atlanta who told the police to stand down during the massive
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riots and allow them to go through and just kind of village everything inside.
04:07:18.420
I would say that that was a bad time in that the hospital systems, the police systems,
04:07:24.240
Um, really bad timeframe in Atlanta, I would say.
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Especially under a Democrat mayor who allows that type of violence to happen right in
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the middle of the streets that led to you getting shot in the head.
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That seems like, it seems like it's really bad to have Democrats as in charge of, you
04:07:39.840
I mean, I don't think it was necessarily like under whether or not he's Republican or Democratic.
04:07:44.200
It was happening because it was stated Georgia was going crazy.
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So it was like a time that no one ever experienced.
04:08:01.940
Um, I don't have a political standpoint on Trump, but I think it's kind of iconic how
04:08:07.000
through everything that he's been through, all the controversies and all the hate that
04:08:11.240
Like he got shot at and he's like still alive and still here and still fighting for what
04:08:17.380
Um, I'm pro Trump and I think what happened was devastating.
04:08:20.880
And I think regardless of where you stand politically, um, you should be essentially
04:08:26.220
devastated if you love this country and regardless of what you think.
04:08:32.720
I think he's fighting for us, um, every day and it's sad that this has happened to him.
04:08:39.640
And I think what happened was super devastating as well.
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Uh, we have desert Joe keeping this in the context of the U S was currently the law in
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All men are required to register for selective service drafted age 18 in order to get the
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It looked like you were about to, no, I'm just tired of hearing about it.
04:09:07.080
It's giving you a headache to know that men have to be drafted.
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And like, I respect everyone's individual opinions, but I just don't want my right to
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take it, be taken away because I'm a woman and you want me to fight in a war.
04:09:20.900
Your opinion is your, no, I don't want your right to vote, to be taken away.
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Because I can't fight in a war like how a man could.
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And if I was trained to, if I was trained to, I would, yeah, I would love to, but I'm
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I'm not knowledgeable on war methods and techniques on how to defend my country.
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Like if you want me to fight in a war, that's your opinion.
04:09:56.300
I like where I'm at right now and I like my right to vote.
04:10:02.720
Do you think it's unfair then that in order for men to be allowed to vote and to receive
04:10:09.780
other sorts of benefits, they have to register for the selective service, which makes them
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subject, potentially subject to forced military conscription.
04:10:40.440
But that doesn't have anything to do with the context.
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Has more import to men than it does the reverse.
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You want to talk about traditional gender roles?
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I'm not talking about traditional gender roles.
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You're asking me about wanting to be fighting in the war.
04:11:24.720
But they're obviously not valuing his virginity.
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They're going to be selecting for virgin wives.
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I'm just grateful that I have the right to vote.
04:12:05.360
I get that you're grateful for the right to vote.
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And I get that you're grateful that you don't have to be drafted.
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That the political power to send men off to war.
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Can she be forced to do that by the government?
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I'm not arguing for walking back of women's right to vote.
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What I am arguing for is an equalization of what the current status quo is.
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But what good would that do with our physicality?
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What does it benefit America for women with no intellect?
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Ignorant women who don't know how to shoot a gun.
04:14:10.960
How are we going to help you guys in war in the battlefield?
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Because that means you want women to die on balance because of equality.
04:14:23.840
So do you think women should not be able to volunteer to join the military?
04:14:30.500
That's such a weird argument because the inverse would be true.
04:14:34.260
So if you make the bold claim that, wait, you see men are engineered to fight these wars.
04:14:40.320
They're the best, the greatest, the finest who have ever existed fighting wars.
04:14:44.400
Women could never do it in a million years the way that they can.
04:14:49.660
How is it that you can reconcile, though, that you should have the political power to send them off to fight one?
04:15:06.780
I want to have the conversation with the person I'm having it with.
04:15:10.160
The exchange I've had with both of you have been highly respectful.
04:15:16.200
So you're saying, I'm sorry, can you rephrase the question one more time?
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Men are going to be way better at fighting wars than women.
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Why should you have the political power to send them off to do that again?
04:15:36.900
I think there's too much emphasis on the women sending men off to war.
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If I say he has to go to war, then you guys have to go to war.
04:15:46.760
No, it's literal, the way the government is set up, it's not based off of a woman's vote.
04:15:52.020
It's literally the, not even, even the, the spot of a, like all of us, it's like democracy.
04:15:58.460
Oh, well, if women's votes don't matter, then why do you want the right to vote?
04:16:07.040
If as a whole, women's right to vote don't matter, then why do you want women to be able
04:16:13.160
Oh, but then as a whole, their vote does matter?
04:16:15.200
As a whole, it does make a difference, but it's not the entirety of the decision.
04:16:18.720
Oh, so then as a whole, they can vote, and that could influence us to go to war?
04:16:22.520
So that's why I feel like you're invalid for your statement, because it doesn't make sense.
04:16:29.160
Okay, well, let us test the logic here and see.
04:16:29.820
It takes so much more to send women and to send men off of the war based off of a vote.
04:16:33.200
Well, let us find out which one of our logic makes the most sense.
04:16:37.180
So we start with women, wait a second, my vote doesn't matter.
04:16:40.900
I'm just a lonely female, and it's a collective of females.
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But then if I say, well, wait, if women's votes don't matter, then why do you want the right to vote?
04:16:55.660
If that is true, then you are admitting that collectively women can influence the electoral process, which could include influencing the deciding factor on whether or not men go to war.
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Like, you're putting your life in the hands of your government.
04:17:13.900
A woman lives in the other country, too, that they're going to war with.
04:17:16.500
Why are you saying, oh, I don't care about your life?
04:17:18.880
Your life matters, whether or not you're a man, whether or not you're a woman, whether or not you're fighting on the front basis.
04:17:26.640
You have a right to say what your life is here for.
04:17:29.600
And that's a really easy thing to state that, hey, wait a second, I do understand that this is going to be a thing fought by men, and so I'm using the vote responsibly.
04:17:40.600
There's no possible way for us to trust that, considering that you can vote for this thing and never suffer the negative repercussions of it.
04:17:54.780
You're not suffering the negative repercussions of it.
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You're voting to send men off to fight your battles for you.
04:18:00.920
You say this is what they're ontologically supposed to do.
04:18:04.160
Their telos, their purpose, what they're ingrained to do is to fight wars.
04:18:09.140
How is not losing someone you love not a negative repercussion?
04:18:15.160
If it is so that it is their purpose to fight war, if it is so that it is ingrained in them to go and protect women and children and other men who are, you know, enfeebled,
04:18:26.040
then why shouldn't the destiny of who they fight the war with be solely in their own hands?
04:18:34.240
You think it should be solely in a man's hands?
04:18:36.780
It should be solely in the hands of those who have the potential to go fight the war, not in those who do not.
04:19:10.120
You bring up the grounding foundation of all of your morals comes from God.
04:19:14.580
Okay, so then why should I say that that's wrong?
04:19:18.360
When you say wrong, you're agreeing with me that all right and wrong comes from God, right?
04:19:26.960
Are you agreeing that all right and wrong comes from God?
04:19:51.180
That's really weird that all prophets are males.
04:20:06.060
Do you think that Christians aren't patriarchists?
04:20:13.680
A Muslim nation because I'm a Christian patriarchist.
04:20:16.020
But if all of your prophets are male, that's really weird.
04:20:21.440
How come God doesn't want his message sent through women?
04:20:33.200
If you put that in the Quran, then I would answer that question.
04:20:34.200
If you put that in the Bible, we would be able to answer that question.
04:20:39.400
Then why the fuck can you vote for when they go to war?
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It's our right because we're alive in this too.
04:20:51.100
And you're trying to dismiss this because it's not as a negative.
04:20:57.740
But it's still negative for a woman to lose her love of her life, to lose her father, to
04:21:07.240
And I hate that you guys are trying to say it's all men.
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They're the only ones that suffer the consequences.
04:21:15.080
That's actually your argument to say men should fight the war.
04:21:18.280
Your argument is to say men should fight the war because they're the most-
04:21:28.080
It's actually your point to say men are the most badass and they're the ones who need to fight
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Then why is it that you should have the right to vote to make him do that instead of him?
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Who, by the way, you have admitted your God only speaks through prophets, which are men.
04:22:11.180
You have admitted women are not to have authority over men.
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Why in the fucking world then, according to your own worldview, should you have the authority
04:22:19.700
to send men off to war ever or any female politician ever?
04:22:32.280
Okay, so basically, I just have a simple point, is that you are right about the prophets being,
04:22:38.260
men should be a leader in life with women when it comes to, like, leadership in political parties
04:22:44.560
But it doesn't take away that a woman is just as important in the message the prophets have
04:23:12.840
Okay, if you guys literally stop thinking from a Christian point of view, it's all religions
04:23:21.040
From your perspective, you're calling her Mary.
04:23:27.840
And the point of what I'm saying is a woman has a part into every piece of a man's life.
04:23:40.360
And you're using manipulative words to say that a woman has authority over a man's life in war.
04:23:48.260
Statistically and educationally, when it comes to government process of voting, a woman does
04:23:54.400
not have the full control or oversuperiority of a man going to war.
04:24:04.840
In your religion, yes or no, should women ever have authority over men, ever?
04:24:14.180
So in the political process, should women have authority over men, ever?
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Right now, are there female politicians in the United States who have authority over men,
04:24:33.840
Right now, are there women who have authority over men in the United States?
04:24:45.480
So no woman should ever be able to, in Congress, or as President, or as Senator, ever be able
04:24:52.760
to cast a single vote in a position of authority in the United States.
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I plead the fifth, because I'm not in that political field.
04:25:09.900
I don't know if there's a woman righteous enough.
04:25:13.340
Because there may be a woman righteous enough to do that.
04:25:19.180
I ask you, should a woman ever have authority over a man?
04:25:23.280
Should a female politician ever have authority over a man?
04:25:26.900
Then why is it that you should be able to vote for a female politician that has authority
04:25:36.380
Did we reduce your position down to where it needs to be yet?
04:25:47.960
Should a female politician ever have the authority to send a man to war?
04:26:01.160
Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
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You should just look at me then and be like, Andrew, you're so handsome.
04:27:01.140
I'm just curious as to why you guys think you're not.
04:27:06.820
Yeah, so what we're trying to ascertain is whether or not you think you're perfect.
04:27:12.240
Well, actually, Andrew, we're trying to ascertain if you're delusional.
04:27:15.760
Yeah, but that would be the claim of perfection.
04:27:20.100
So anybody who would claim that they were perfect would be delusional.
04:27:28.000
Yeah, so when we're rating a scale of 1 to 10, 10 is the max, right?
04:27:45.100
Can anything in the scale of 1 to 10 be higher than 10?
04:27:51.160
Yeah, so if 10 is the highest, that means that you're counting yourself among the elite
04:28:00.900
I don't even know if there's a 10 which exists, but if there was, you're claiming that that
04:28:13.060
So the word perfect, to me, doesn't stand in that question of physically 10.
04:28:17.940
I think that everyone at this table is absolutely beautiful.
04:28:20.680
So I would rate everyone here 10, including myself.
04:28:25.420
So let's back up and kind of address the point.
04:28:29.040
You're using the word perfection as in that's 10.
04:28:31.840
10 is perfection because that's your perception.
04:28:39.320
And I understand that you're also are yielding to a God you consider only God to be perfect,
04:28:59.100
So if you're only considering God perfect, that's fine.
04:29:02.820
Though I don't know how you would be able to ascertain the physical beauty of God.
04:29:06.840
We will still assume that under your worldview, the physical beauty of God is a 10 along with
04:29:12.660
I think myself, including everyone else, is not perfectly physical.
04:29:18.380
But what I'm saying to you is that in this scale, we're only talking about physical characteristics.
04:29:30.620
Let me reframe the question so that you understand it better.
04:29:35.460
If 1,000 men, random men, random, meaning, again, I can't emphasize this enough, random.
04:29:45.740
In fact, repeat back the word random so I know that you know what I mean.
04:29:49.640
Because I've asked this question a million times.
04:29:54.040
So 1,000 random men, they're at a fair, and you're in a beauty contest, and they bring
04:30:01.060
And they say, okay, guys, you can go from 1 to 10 on her beauty.
04:30:05.920
And the average of what all of you determine her beauty to be is what we'll go with.
04:30:16.040
What do you think the average, the collective of all 1,000 of the men would put you numerically?
04:30:23.480
We're going to start with you, and then we're going to ask you four.
04:30:46.160
So in the scenario that he gave you, what do you think they would give you, the 1,000
04:31:10.140
This is difficult, because beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so.
04:31:13.260
That's why we have 1,000 beholders, and we're asking you to average what you think they'd
04:31:27.940
So then I wouldn't apply to this scenario because of people like Western beauty, that's blonde
04:31:49.060
My question is not how you would be attracted to her just as much as she's attracted to
04:32:00.320
The question that you're asking is if there's a thousand men, what is the average of...
04:32:04.300
What is the rate that they're going to give you on average off of...
04:32:07.240
Based off of the thousand men that are looking at you in the beauty pattern?
04:32:32.840
If it was in my side of where I was raised and where I was blood born, then yeah, I would
04:32:49.600
So all 1,000 men would hold up a sign saying 10?
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And now I just want you to look at me and say, Andrew, I just want these words.
04:33:02.200
Whatever camera's the closest to you, look right at it and say, Andrew, I'm not delusional.
04:33:15.320
If it's 1,000 out of 1,000, you could never have a sample size higher than 1,000 out of 1,000.
04:33:22.600
I would love to think that every man in Egypt finds me beautiful.
04:33:29.880
Well, my question isn't what you'd like to think.
04:33:38.820
It's about my self-love and how I perceive myself.
04:33:41.320
Because how are we supposed to know what other men think?
04:33:45.020
Well, I'm not asking you to know what they think.
04:33:50.140
Yeah, I'm just asking what you think they would guess.
04:34:01.720
If a bird hit that window doing 1,000 miles an hour, what do you think would happen?
04:34:08.420
Suddenly, when it comes to a hypothetical, you can, even though it hasn't happened, you
04:34:13.080
don't know exactly what would happen, you can somehow make a guess as to what would happen.
04:34:18.260
But in this case, oh, your brain, it just is empty.
04:34:31.120
I don't even think we should grant this geographical move.
04:34:35.960
You guys currently reside in the United States.
04:34:38.820
So what would men, a cross-section of men who live in the United States?
04:35:06.100
I just want to let you know that what you're saying is that you think 1,000 out of 1,000
04:35:12.660
men would essentially vote 9 or 10 or 8 for every single one of you to the point that you
04:35:26.360
This would put you at the highest beauty standards of the entirety of planet Earth.
04:35:34.780
So that you understand what that means, every single woman who has come on this podcast has
04:35:40.740
given a similar answer to that, which means that either A, Brian Atlas only books the most
04:35:48.060
beautiful women in the world to come on whatever, or the more likely possibility.
04:35:54.920
For instance, if I were to ask you this question, you two twins in the back, and I'll let you
04:36:04.960
And if you were wrong on the gamble, you instantly dropped dead.
04:36:12.940
If you had to either gamble, A, that Brian Atlas brings the most beautiful women on the
04:36:19.540
podcast ever, or B, that the women who mostly come on the podcast are delusional when it
04:36:26.300
comes to self-ratings, which way would you gamble?
04:36:29.260
I would not gamble because it's haram, first of all.
04:36:31.440
Yeah, I know, but you asked me the wrong person, so I'm sorry.
04:36:42.520
Okay, I just don't understand why do you want us to look at ourselves lower?
04:36:46.560
No, no, no, no, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on.
04:36:51.640
I'm more than happy to be humbled by saying I'm a one.
04:37:00.320
The question is, if you had to gamble and the stakes were your life, would you either
04:37:06.340
gamble, A, that Brian Atlas brings the most beautiful women in the world on his podcast
04:37:11.360
and fills the entire podcast with him, or B, that most of the women who come on the podcast
04:37:17.260
are delusional when it comes to their self-rating?
04:37:21.480
You didn't even hear the second part of the question.
04:37:25.180
How can you answer before you even heard the second part of the question?
04:37:30.180
You shouldn't feel like a woman who self-love or whatever thinks that everyone here is
04:37:38.920
The question is not whether or not you shouldn't have a high estimate of your own looks.
04:37:45.080
The question is diverting to the gaze of males and whether or not men would judge you the
04:37:56.400
And so my question becomes, if that is so, and every single woman who comes on this podcast
04:38:01.720
gives a similar answer, then that would be conceding that Brian Atlas just has the most
04:38:09.600
And then now that audience would agree by placebo effect.
04:38:18.840
They think that they're very beautiful up in here.
04:38:21.880
Do you realize that the placebo effect would indicate that you were wrong?
04:38:27.040
The placebo effect is saying there is no actual consequence here, but it's make-believe
04:38:45.200
That's not what I feel like she was trying to say.
04:38:56.440
You're just sitting up here talking so damn much.
04:38:58.580
You said the women would be the placebo effect.
04:38:59.840
I just said there's a placebo effect on the audience, not the people on here.
04:39:08.040
So do you think that the women, all of the women who come on the whatever podcast just
04:39:14.040
happen to be the most beautiful women in the whole world?
04:39:17.580
Or do you think that they might have a slightly higher estimation of themselves than the general
04:39:24.760
I would like to see a woman be self-confident in herself.
04:39:29.120
Because how are you going to say that they are naturally attractive?
04:39:33.340
You look in the mirror and you think you're a one?
04:39:35.220
Based on how you were raised, based off of your programming, your programming is telling
04:39:38.720
me that I am beautiful to you off of one to ten.
04:39:54.800
So we can only give our estimated guess based off ourselves.
04:40:01.500
Due to the fact that leprechauns and unicorns mate in the sky and there's rainbows underneath
04:40:05.820
Skittles on top of hills which exist within ants who are chocolate covered,
04:40:12.240
I'm just going based off of my life experience to be honest.
04:40:15.260
Or are you going to keep obfuscating into shit that I don't care about?
04:40:19.700
Does Brian Atlas bring on the most beautiful women in the world?
04:40:24.220
Or alternatively do they have a higher estimation of themselves than they actually believe that
04:40:37.000
What you did was you said that unicorns live underground with gophers and sometimes they
04:40:43.420
So that's why you're mad that you want me to join your delusional.
04:40:49.700
Saying that you answered the question doesn't mean you answered it.
04:40:56.620
Wait, Andrew, isn't a component of the question under threat of death?
04:41:07.900
No, they're, they're, well, what's going on is they actually haven't answered the question.
04:41:12.560
They've gone out of their way to do everything but answer it.
04:41:23.660
We are, we are saying what we think is our higher self, whatever you want to say.
04:41:30.480
And if your higher, and if your higher self were to not map onto reality, but you thought
04:41:36.860
Well, I do think I'm a thing, so why should I say that I'm not?
04:41:41.720
If you were to think that whatever the higher self of people was, even if it was a lie, but
04:41:48.620
it had a better effect, would you still recommend that people go with their higher self?
04:41:56.740
Then you have just stated that there's no reason to ever believe you when you say your higher
04:42:04.620
Would you go with your lower self or your higher self?
04:42:11.960
Some type of, in this particular case, inside the context of the question, the objective
04:42:18.020
reality of me, if I were to take, stop, I'm answering the question, if I were to take
04:42:22.620
1,000 women and they were to all rate me based on Western standards of beauty, I think that
04:42:30.120
collectively they would come up with something pretty close to a woman.
04:42:58.880
You look like somebody that used to be a Prince back when he was younger.
04:43:11.300
I feel like you have a lot of features that make a Prince.
04:43:15.840
And when I watch certain things, I call certain men a Prince.
04:43:28.740
I did not realize that I was regal and walked around with a robe and a nice scepter.
04:44:07.400
You do realize that after hearing so many self-delusional answers from you, all of you,
04:44:13.680
there's no actual way for me to believe that any type of fluffing up of the ego, which you
04:44:20.440
are currently attempting in order to obfuscate from questions, means that it is in any way
04:44:25.320
based in the reality of what you actually think.
04:44:28.000
It can't be so, because when I ask you what you think of yourselves, the answers are clearly
04:44:32.780
so fucking delusional, I don't believe you believe it.
04:44:58.440
But yeah, I think that a majority of people here today are 10s.
04:45:04.140
Why don't you guys just get into the table so you don't have to...
04:45:15.880
Everyone has something beautiful about them that no one else can really have.
04:45:19.100
So do you think, since you're saying all the women here are 10s, you're just, in terms
04:45:22.520
of looks, you're not better looking than any of the women here?
04:45:27.740
I didn't say equal, but they all have something that I would say that's more, in my opinion,
04:45:33.100
They look different, but in terms of their Burmese, think for the gifted 20, in terms
04:45:45.400
But there could be a blonde who's a 10, a brunette who's a 10, and a blonde who's a 7, and a brunette
04:45:55.560
So everyone here is just comparable in terms of their physical attractiveness.
04:46:01.560
Like, everyone here has that, have a very beautiful thing about them.
04:46:06.160
They have somebody, everybody, a majority of people here have very beautiful physical features.
04:46:20.140
And I wouldn't say that that could equate to that.
04:46:25.360
And she's not saying, like, oh, I'm more beautiful than everyone else here.
04:46:28.640
She's saying that everyone has their own beauty.
04:46:33.080
So you kind of reject this, the hierarchy of appearance then?
04:47:01.060
Do you have a height preference when it comes to men?
04:47:32.140
Of the men that you've dated, even short term, what was the last guy you dated?
04:47:59.240
Not necessarily, but if it comes with it, then hey, I'm not...
04:48:19.160
If the energy, the vibe, and everything that's morally standing...
04:48:30.480
If you're aligning with me, then yeah, I wouldn't mind.
04:48:32.900
Maybe you would date a 5'5 billionaire who's got a huge pee-pee and his face is perfect
04:48:41.360
Maybe you'll accept dating a short guy then, but I'm just saying, would you date a normal
04:48:47.380
If we're aligned mentally, physically, we like to do the same things, virtually, I'm just
04:48:55.620
If that's solely based off physicality, but that's just...
04:49:00.100
But then you don't have a high preference, though.
04:49:04.340
I said that I would, after experiencing a taller guy, yeah, it's just nicer.
04:49:13.720
So you are rank ordering men based on their physical appearance.
04:49:18.400
I was with somebody that was basically the same height as me.
04:49:22.300
That's one inch off of the average male height.
04:49:50.140
If you're naturally just a chubby person, that's fine.
04:50:00.640
You've maybe heard of this phenomenon of, like, a good-looking girl who's dating, like,
04:50:09.200
So why are you able to make a determination as to a guy's physical appearance, but you
04:50:13.940
can't make a determination as to women's physical appearance?
04:50:16.080
Because I see women differently than I see men.
04:50:17.700
How do you see women differently than you see men?
04:50:19.600
I don't look at women's physicality and men's physicality.
04:50:22.400
So you objectify men, but you don't objectify men.
04:50:27.800
You're objectifying them based on their appearance.
04:50:29.900
What did I say that was objectifying the man off his appearance?
04:50:33.220
You said, I don't treat women X way, but I do treat men this way.
04:50:40.340
When she looks at a woman, she notices her beauty.
04:50:44.900
How are you able to make determinations as to physical appearance when it comes to men,
04:50:56.720
So even if people are your own sex, you can't make any determinations as to somebody who's
04:51:02.000
It's just not as serious to me when it comes to a woman.
04:51:05.940
I'm not going to sit here and really examine her because she's not someone I'm going to
04:51:10.320
So if you were a talent agent for a modeling agency and knowing that modeling, you know,
04:51:16.020
typically, not always, but typically tends to prefer to have people who are physically
04:51:21.840
attractive and good looking, you would just be incapable...
04:51:25.680
You would just be incapable of making any determinations as to women's physical appearance.
04:51:33.260
Modeling agencies look for different people that look different.
04:51:42.500
You could look so crazy to other people and everyone could bully you and say that you're
04:51:45.880
ugly as hell your whole time, but you got signed.
04:51:50.740
You work for Abercrombie and Fitch or whatever the fuck that company was.
04:51:57.260
It's 2005 before all this woke bullshit about like putting obese models out there.
04:52:03.580
So you're the talent scout for this company and your job is to find attractive people
04:52:09.420
You would be unable, incapable of making determinations as to a woman's physical appearance.
04:52:16.680
So then how is it that you view men and women differently in this regard?
04:52:20.660
I'm just saying that like with a woman's beauty, it's just more...
04:52:26.940
Women have more beauty in this life than a man.
04:52:29.080
Like there's more attractive women than attractive men in my personal opinion.
04:52:33.980
It's like the body, it's the face, it's the features.
04:52:35.760
There's more to notice about a woman and check mark versus a man.
04:52:42.000
It has a lot to do with it because her body, her physicality is completely different than
04:52:50.660
He doesn't have to be fit to have a beautiful girl.
04:52:52.260
So just to be clear, all women should view themselves as tens, but not all men should
04:52:57.240
Men and women should see themselves for what they truly believe.
04:53:18.500
I do have one quick follow-up question before we move on.
04:53:25.540
Can you put, can you get very close to the mic so I can actually hear your answer?
04:53:30.320
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
04:53:37.660
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
04:53:59.760
It's just fun to do every once in a while for no particularly good reason.
04:54:02.740
There are people who have trouble engaging in hypotheticals.
04:54:13.060
Many times when I engage with people who can't engage in hypotheticals, if I ask them, how would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning?
04:54:20.500
What they end up saying is, but I did eat breakfast this morning.
04:54:24.200
Which is, that's what the meme claims they would say.
04:54:38.680
It means you can engage in a hypothetical, but you're still fucking delusional.
04:54:43.420
I mean, this whole take is completely delusional.
04:54:47.160
So, you guys, we were talking about mid-dudes, mid-dudes thinking they're 10s.
04:54:59.220
Yeah, so, but, so you, you think that that's wrong, right?
04:55:10.520
Do you think it would indicate perhaps a lack of modesty or self-awareness?
04:55:18.480
He probably thinks he's a 10, not because based off of his looks.
04:55:22.640
He's probably like, oh, I'm a 10 because I got money.
04:55:27.320
If a guy who's mid physically and he was like, my looks, I'm a 10 out of 10 looks.
04:55:38.260
Let's say he has, he's six foot, but let's say he has a really big nose.
04:55:42.520
Why should he think that that really big nose is ugly?
04:55:49.560
No, I'm literally saying like people get nose surgery because they don't like their nose.
04:55:53.520
So I'm trying to use something that's insecure point in the face, which is the nose and the lips.
04:55:57.500
So I'm trying to use this point by saying, why should he feel like his nose is ugly because the community or society will say big noses are ugly?
04:56:11.020
I think it's because beauty standards are derived from your locality and from other people.
04:56:21.200
Assume for a second that you grew up in a leper colony and everybody had leprosy.
04:56:26.260
If everybody had leprosy and you had nothing else to compare it to, you might consider some lepers to be beautiful.
04:56:34.340
But let's assume for a second instead that you grew up in a place where there was no lepers and suddenly you saw one for the first time.
04:56:41.860
Go ahead and lie to me and tell me that you wouldn't go, holy fuck, what the, oh God, that's ah.
04:56:50.540
Why would you be like, oh wow, that's so interesting.
04:56:54.800
It's all about perception of what you think of difference.
04:56:56.940
For the same reason I'm not delusional enough to believe that you for a second would go, oh, half your face was melted off and your tongue is hanging out this side and I can see your entire jaw and your eye also has been plucked out and you look like the dude from Hellraiser except missing half your face.
04:57:20.360
But that's why people would say, no, you don't adhere to the beauty standard.
04:57:31.920
So people might think the guy with the big nose is mid because he has a big nose.
04:57:35.860
That's all based off society, like what you just said.
04:57:39.280
So going around the table, do you think you're going to be more physically attractive, better looking in 10 years' time as compared to now?
04:58:02.480
I stop at 70 because I've seen what my family looks like if they make it to 70.
04:58:07.960
So you'll be more physically attractive at 40 than you are now at 20.
04:58:14.600
But I didn't say I would be more physically attractive at 40.
04:58:26.300
But comparatively speaking, do you think you will be more physically attractive at 30 than you are now at 20?
04:58:47.300
I feel like my brain and my body would be fully developed and I would like that one.
04:59:00.600
Will you be more physically attractive in 10 years than you are now?
04:59:07.000
So will you be more physically attractive at 50?
04:59:08.940
I'm definitely a lot more attractive than when I was in my 30s.
04:59:14.760
Are you more attractive now at 40 than you were at 30?
04:59:17.880
I feel like, yeah, because with all the surgeries that I had going on, I didn't really work.
04:59:24.020
I worked out on and off, but my face has stayed the same.
04:59:29.360
But I love my face and like I'm seasoned more so now than I was.
04:59:35.860
Do you think you're more physically attractive now than you were at 20?
04:59:49.560
I mean, realistically, no, but I have fear of getting old.
04:59:52.480
So I'm like, I keep thinking in my head, I'm still 27.
04:59:59.700
Do you think you're better looking at 26 than you are now at 36?
05:00:10.060
Well, the style would have been like time appropriate 10 years ago.
05:00:13.440
I mean, so I don't think anybody, just because of skin quality, I'm big on skin quality.
05:00:20.540
Unfortunately, I don't think skin quality gets better with age.
05:00:23.220
So I think the reality is, is after 30, things just start changing for the worse.
05:00:33.720
I did want to interject just briefly because usually there's a follow-up we have at the
05:00:40.520
After we get all of your answers, this type of thing, I was wondering for the two 10 twins
05:00:48.000
in the back and for the rest of the women on the panel, of course, if you were to have
05:00:53.220
the same question directed at you, 1,000 men are rating the girl next to you, what do you
05:01:07.560
Can you guys just very quickly raise your hands if it's a 10?
05:01:11.520
If you think 1,000 men who were rating the girl next to you, do you think that they would
05:01:32.080
8 out of 10 that they would rate the woman next to you.
05:01:39.800
Will you be better looking in 10 years than you are now?
05:01:42.280
I think that my prime would probably be my 30s, but over that, like 40s and stuff, I really
05:01:47.720
Well, you're 24, so will you be, do you think you'll be better looking at 34 than you
05:01:56.020
Um, I would only hope so, but I don't, I don't know.
05:02:06.820
Well, I just think youth in general is more beautiful, like the younger you are.
05:02:09.140
Okay, so you're better looking now at 24 than you will be at 34.
05:02:15.180
And then for you, better looking at 29 versus now at 19?
05:02:21.420
And then for you, better looking at 32 as compared to now at 22?
05:02:35.900
So a couple of you said yes, better looking in 10 years.
05:02:50.900
Uh, I was just wondering to the gal who has Italia on the shirt.
05:03:28.520
Um, I think her favorite song would probably, I don't know.
05:03:43.480
Like, I just, um, not in the, like, yeah, music is.
05:03:50.860
Music is Haram, but there's no choice but to hear music.
05:03:55.660
When you're out on the street, there is music being played.
05:04:02.580
When it comes to Haram and Halal in this modern day and age, because we're not living in the
05:04:06.460
18th century, um, it's, if someone listens to more music than they do holy verses, then
05:04:16.340
So you, so I just want to, I just want to make sure you guys, you guys would never lie
05:04:27.840
Islam isn't about, I have to be a perfect person.
05:04:33.320
You're not doing Haram and listening to music, right?
05:04:37.000
I wouldn't say so because I would say I would have an equal amount of, like, I listen to.
05:04:40.920
But I do say music is not, like, the best of things.
05:04:44.480
But I would say, I would, honestly, I can't say that because I would just say, like, I
05:05:04.520
No, but when I go outside, I do listen to music in the car.
05:05:08.020
But in my tradition, how I was raised, I never listen to music in the home.
05:05:26.200
Is it awful that you have to confront your own cognitive business?
05:05:38.560
Can you guys even agree on if it's Haram or not?
05:05:44.020
I think I overall said that her first answer was what I agree with.
05:05:48.280
I feel like I get to hear a yes or no from you two.
05:05:59.460
So to kind of wrap it up here on the whole rating yourself thing.
05:06:03.080
So I actually think it's more important for women to have an accurate self-assessment
05:06:07.320
of their own physical attractiveness as compared to men.
05:06:10.740
Something we talk about almost every single show.
05:06:15.500
So if I'm a man and I'm delusional and I think I'm a 10 and I step to a girl who's a 10,
05:06:24.700
If I step to a girl, like the way men get rejected is up front immediately.
05:06:29.000
I can't, like if I step to a girl who's frankly out of my league, I'm cut off of everything.
05:06:41.200
Now with bringing up casual sex, I think you might know where I'm about to lead to.
05:06:45.380
You as women can secure casual sex from men who are outside of your league, whether that's
05:06:51.160
status, whether that's looks, whether that's personality.
05:06:54.720
You guys can sleep with men who are outside of your league.
05:06:59.180
And that's precisely why it's more important for women to be based in reality when it comes
05:07:06.140
Although it ultimately doesn't matter because even if a man is delusional, he's just going
05:07:11.060
to get curved and rejected by girls who are out of his league.
05:07:15.240
So what ends up happening is you think your league is the men you sleep with.
05:07:22.760
Your league as women is the men that you can get commitment from and that you can get a ring
05:07:30.100
So an average 19 year old chick who's just good looking can fuck a famous rapper, an athlete.
05:07:42.940
The difference here is, is that as a man, if I can sleep with a girl, there's a very good
05:07:52.500
Just because you can sleep with a guy doesn't mean you can get him into a relationship.
05:07:56.540
So that's why I think it's important to be like, hmm, am I fucking with a guy outside
05:08:04.220
If I think I'm a 10, because you'll think you're entitled to a relationship with a guy who's
05:08:10.360
But really, he's just using you, which I object to.
05:08:17.360
And the way it is, is you're going to have hyper attractive guys who just want sex from
05:08:22.240
And if that's the current dating meta, and you think you're hot shit, you think you're a
05:08:27.940
10, you think you're a baddie, but you can't get commitment from all these dudes, could be
05:08:37.000
And you're curving the dudes who are actually on your level, who'd be prepared to give you
05:08:41.100
commitment, who'd be loyal, who'd treat you well.
05:08:43.860
And that's why you end up hearing all these women complaining about all these fuck boys.
05:08:50.180
There's plenty of, there's probably dudes who'd be prepared to commit to you.
05:08:53.360
You just think you're just curving them because you think I'm fucking this guy who's this
05:08:58.000
attractive, this other guy over here wants to give me commitment, but I'm not attracted
05:09:02.200
to him because I can fuck this guy who's really attractive who won't give me commitment.
05:09:05.140
Don't ever bring no sewer rat Arabs on here again.
05:09:22.500
Might I extend to Mr. Davis, though, that I do appreciate the $200 dono and completely agree
05:09:30.460
with you, but I, you know, you can't play the super chat, TOS.
05:09:35.140
Burmese Mountain Tiger, thank you for the gifted 20 subs.
05:09:40.300
I mean, Mike Davis, I appreciate your patronage.
05:09:48.220
I think I pretty much made my point, but, yeah.
05:09:54.160
I guess just newsflash, really attractive fuckboys will sleep with average mid-girls, and
05:10:02.100
Think, I can get that guy, and they'll just keep falling from dick to dick to dick, thinking
05:10:07.540
they can get that guy in a relationship, but they can't.
05:10:10.360
And then the guys who are actually in their league, in their level, y'all just curving
05:10:14.640
these dudes who, like, are in your league, and who are prepared to commit to you, give
05:10:20.780
So, Burmese Mountain Tiger, thank you for the gifted 20 subs.
05:10:29.060
Women don't fuck dudes outside of their league.
05:10:32.440
No, women, no, average mid-girls don't have access to, like, famous rappers and musicians.
05:10:41.840
Like, famous, I'm telling you, famous women don't ever fuck with, like, I mean, it happens
05:10:47.640
rarely, but, like, they're usually dealing with, like, guys on their level.
05:10:53.000
But, like, who, what makes you feel so confident?
05:10:58.600
You're going based off of physicality again and again.
05:11:03.860
Yeah, that's, yeah, that part is correct, but not the part that actually has to do with
05:11:09.000
He's saying, oh, a handsome guy is not gonna get with a girl that's physically ugly.
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I see so many rich, handsome men end up marrying a woman that's not even as physically
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She's just, like, a cute, normal, regular girl.
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So are you advocating that women should keep thatting outside of their league?
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You're advertising that women should just stay in their place and not go for the man
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And then if you have someone that you want and they are a righteous man, they're a
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righteous leader to you, go for it, no matter what he looks like.
05:11:44.440
So you have, like, huge, huge swaths of women who, throughout their 20s, are chasing after
05:11:52.640
They'll spend their 20s fucking attractive dudes, never getting commitment.
05:12:02.120
And it makes for a terrible marriage because she thinks she's settling, but it's actually
05:12:11.740
She wasn't able, it's her karma to ruin a dude's life because she couldn't get the
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fucking hyper-successful dudes who she could fuck in her prime.
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Well, I sort of got cut off here, but I was basically just responding to her.
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Because you're using, like, you're not even using, like, a statistical basis.
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You're using your opinionated statements to say that women should only talk to these
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Like, you're gonna get, you're gonna use and abuse if you're gonna go for a hyper-attractive
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And I just think that's not a positive thing to say or a factual, evident thing to say
05:13:07.760
All girls complain about fuckboys after they get fucked by them.
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There's some girls, like, she thinks, oh, he's hot.
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We don't have the same hyper-attractive of what hyper-attractive male is.
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But, like, there are some men that, like, vast swaths of women will tend to agree that
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Women swipe on only, like, the top 10% of men on those dating apps.
05:13:43.600
So, these dating apps where women are basically essentially making assessments almost near exclusively
05:14:11.760
Yeah, in any case, you've been interrupting all night and it's just you got to let people
05:14:17.160
How could it be the case then that there's a cohort of men on dating apps that get almost
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all of the attention on the dating apps and they're running through chicks?
05:14:36.220
Yeah, you're high vibrational brain that can't understand facts and logic.
05:14:48.740
No, there's more than one way to be rude to somebody and you're constant interrupting
05:14:56.560
It's like, that's the thing that's getting frustrating.
05:14:58.980
None of us have energy because you literally argue to just fucking argue.
05:15:05.580
And it's like getting tiring because I don't even have the energy to interject because I'm
05:15:08.880
fucking over it because like, he asks you literally a question and you're like, but
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this is, it's like, oh my God, you are delusional.
05:15:18.320
Let's keep it on topic and let's fucking have great conversations.
05:15:21.440
Because none of us want to get involved anymore.
05:15:32.740
You don't let them finish and you just want to like literally respond to respond.
05:15:36.340
It's, I hate to say this, but something like our Middle Eastern women, our women are like
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so combative that it's like, you have to prove your point.
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Half of the time, Andrew's saying exactly what you're fucking saying, but you're not even listening
05:15:51.020
You're just like literally just, just talking to talk.
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That's what the fuck you've been doing all night.
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It's nice to shut the fuck up sometimes and listen.
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Well, you aren't even understanding what the hell going on.
05:16:19.960
Fuck, it's exhausting to listen to the same shit.
05:16:26.160
You kept saying the girl with the Italia, whatever shirt.
05:16:35.080
It's because it's exhausting when it's like the same.
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We haven't had a new conversation the whole night.
05:16:56.160
If you want to have a conversation, you listen.
05:16:58.560
If you understand each other's points, it's like just to say because you want to voice
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We sleep from Los Angeles, LA, Hollywood, California.
05:17:34.240
If you're going to run your mouth all day and then somebody checks you, you're going to
05:17:39.260
You want to keep talking and talking and talking.
05:17:42.440
Like, honestly, I've been falling asleep just listening to it because I'm like, my brain
05:17:51.060
Because I'm like, should I let go check on them?
05:17:56.260
Yo, Burmese mountain tiger, thank you for the gifted 50 subs.
05:18:03.420
I literally feel like I just got my energy back.
05:18:13.820
I'm saying, like, I'm all for, like, I mean, I love watching this show and it's like a debate
05:18:20.120
But, like, even the ones I've watched, people, like, women just listen.
05:18:24.760
They don't listen to anything that you've said.
05:18:30.240
But when somebody asks you, you answered, like, a normal person.
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And there's, you just want to fucking argue about everything.
05:18:56.400
But I'm not ignorant to just fucking want to talk out of nothing.
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Yo, W for you, though, for coming to my defense.
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Granted, probably shouldn't have told her to shut the fuck up.
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If you were losing your temper, like, I think we all were making eye contact.
05:19:35.700
Like, Andrew's just the only one that has the energy to go back and forth.
05:19:39.700
Because we're like, I don't want to even interject and talk to anyone because it's, like, the same conversation, same thing, going back and forth.
05:19:48.040
Can we have our new guests introduce themselves?
05:20:02.120
I feel like the vibration just raised in this corner.
05:20:17.620
We've had some really contentious problems here on whatever.
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I said, as a woman, there's a time that you need to learn to shut the fuck up and listen.
05:20:52.040
You don't give a fuck about somebody saying some shit.
05:20:56.960
That's what I've been trying to tell you, though.
05:20:59.940
So what actually led up to this, that I don't really understand.
05:21:04.700
We have had way more brutal combos with people on whatever.
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No, I should leave because I brought them here.
05:21:55.680
We are all here to speak on women's preference.
05:22:05.460
All of you have been chilling together the entire evening.
05:22:09.860
But there was nothing there that warranted a rage quit.
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Like, you've been having fun most of the night.
05:22:19.180
No, I feel like everyone was attacking the fact that...
05:22:23.680
I feel like everyone was attacking the fact that they were defending their points of views.
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I mean, if nobody else is going to say anything, then why tell someone else to shut the fuck up?
05:22:36.100
Instead of telling other women to shut the fuck up.
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I just want to let you know, that's the thing I respected the most.
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That's why I don't get it, because they were clearly having a good time.
05:23:06.180
Everyone keeps telling them to shut the fuck up.
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My issue is picking at every single thing is not...
05:23:23.880
You've had base takes the whole night, but let her respond.
05:23:26.180
It's because they're answering questions the way they need to respond.
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When you guys ask us a question, it's very hard for a person with a very open mind to
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just say yes or no, because the question is deeper, and it's manipulative.
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And if you're able to just answer it yes or no, then that's okay.
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But there's also forces of powers that make you want to dig deeper.
05:23:51.820
And if you don't dig deeper, then you should shut the fuck up.
05:23:54.560
Like, I don't see why they had to shut the fuck up, because they were able to decipher
05:23:59.780
everything that was put in front of them and everything that was asked to them.
05:24:03.360
They were able to dig deeper and figure out what's really going on.
05:24:07.760
And it's just like, I don't understand why that's like something that we're drawing each
05:24:18.100
We should all be answering differently instead of just yes or no.
05:24:22.980
When he was talking about women's rights, when you were speaking about women's rights,
05:24:38.000
I agree that absolutely if somebody is having a good faith exchange, they should not be silenced
05:24:47.560
But can you agree with me that things are either going to be true or they're not going
05:25:04.920
This is one of those questions where you can't just answer yes or no.
05:25:11.240
One of the laws of logic, we're talking about the law of excluded middle.
05:25:23.180
If I make a statement to you, I am X feet tall.
05:25:34.020
These questions aren't that simple, though, and you know that.
05:25:37.280
Well, I'm willing to hear how it could be possible that somebody could tell both a truth and a falsehood at the same time.
05:25:47.780
If you can tell me or possibly explain to me in any world you could ever envision how somebody could tell me a truth which was actually a lie, I want to hear it.
05:26:01.200
I think that even when you ask us these questions, you have a certain expectation on what you want us to say, regardless of what we say.
05:26:21.000
So what if your own truth was that when you look behind you, it didn't say whatever.
05:26:35.260
That's a question that only one of us could be correct.
05:26:38.220
But the questions that you're asking me are things that are not visible.
05:26:54.020
If only one of us could be correct, which one of us would be correct?
05:26:58.220
If you said it said whoever, and I said it said whatever, who is actually correct?
05:27:16.860
You know what I'm talking about, and it's whatever.
05:27:30.520
If I'm going to be here, they're going to be here.
05:27:42.640
Nick will come with you, and you can go to come.
05:27:48.960
Like, literally, I love the way they're talking.
05:27:58.720
Like, you can't really rage quit, really, if you can't leave.
05:28:17.380
If you enjoy seeing people rage quit off the show after I tell them to shut the fuck up,
05:28:31.280
Guys, it was almost 16 minutes since we last got a Prime, but thankfully, Big T, he made
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If you enjoy us as content creators, you want to see us do more, we need your support over
05:28:46.260
We've got to get through all my pre-show notes.
05:28:52.220
Prince Andrew, who is regal, who has a cape, does not appreciate it.
05:28:55.600
Remember earlier, I was referred to as a prince, Brian.
05:29:10.880
There's this Bill Burr bit where if a woman's right in an argument, she'll stick to the
05:29:19.400
But if she's wrong, she'll like talk about other shit, try to rile you up until she pisses
05:29:24.860
you off and then you call her a bitch and then she just gets mad that you called her a bitch
05:29:32.240
So you're saying that women never win arguments.
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It's because they beat you till you're tired and you're like, fine, you win.
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I'm going to find the clip, this Bill Burr clip because it's really good.
05:30:04.460
Do you grab your walker at 10 o'clock and you're like, oh, I got to get over to my bed.
05:30:09.020
I'm like, I got to reel myself over to my bed to go to sleep at 10 o'clock at night?
05:30:14.560
No, normally if I sit still for this long, it's either I'm getting my hair done, I'm
05:30:19.760
doing something, just sitting here and listening.
05:30:25.340
I love their argument, but it's like them being passionate.
05:30:29.060
But seriously, just everything was just an argument that's like I don't even want to
05:30:35.080
So you get tired when you're just sitting here staring at people back and forth arguing.
05:30:44.760
So did we go all the way around on her hard nose?
05:31:07.860
Would you object to a guy like disqualifying you because of your lack of humor?
05:31:17.540
Would you object to a guy disqualifying you because you lacked humor?
05:31:30.840
Although you typically don't hear men disqualifying or caring about if a woman's funny.
05:31:39.720
She's so hot and attractive, but she's just not funny.
05:31:43.340
I guess I won't have sex with her because she couldn't make me laugh.
05:31:50.300
We have Naomi, psycho ex, went to prison for stalking you.
05:32:08.840
Wait, he told, he told, he told your parents first about the STD?
05:32:38.320
So, we were just together for, it seemed like forever, but I think it was only a year and
05:32:49.160
And they just, at some point, were like, this is awful, it's toxic, just lots of fighting.
05:33:00.920
So, um, I eventually, my parents made us break up and of course I didn't listen.
05:33:09.060
And so, I eventually continued to talk to him for a few weeks.
05:33:12.160
However, when I realized he was a little psycho was when I was, I'll never forget, it was a
05:33:20.520
Obviously, I'm not going to talk to my mom or talk to my boyfriend while my mom is with
05:33:25.860
And he, um, asked why I was shopping with her, why I was at the mall.
05:33:31.640
And so, that's when I kind of realized he was a little crazy.
05:33:48.240
Like, he was sending, like, death threats to my, uh, my parents, myself, where I was
05:34:01.260
So, they just were, at this point, were building a case.
05:34:03.340
Um, but right before I decided to break things off with him is just when, um, I realized he
05:34:10.580
was cheating on me, which is really dumb because there were so many signs.
05:34:14.380
I mean, my parents saw him out with other women in town and I was just delusional.
05:34:25.200
Um, made for great memoirs for my senior year, though, in high school.
05:34:30.220
Um, but yeah, we ended up breaking things off and he got convicted on, he had other
05:34:34.580
charges as well, but they were able to charge him with first degree stalking, too.
05:34:40.200
You said that women nowadays, in your opinion, are unrealistic and have such high expectations.
05:34:46.780
So, the whole world we live in, honestly, is super fucked.
05:34:53.920
I just think that, I think, I mean, I'm not old.
05:34:58.460
I'm young still, so obviously I can't say back in the day, but I do think there was
05:35:02.340
something before online dating and creating this, like, idea in our heads of maybe social
05:35:06.600
media has a play into this, but just of what the perfect man or woman is supposed to be.
05:35:12.140
Um, and I think there's a lot to be said to people who can meet, they meet each other
05:35:16.740
organically, they grow together, they become a better version of themselves.
05:35:23.380
I mean, I just think saying, like, I want my husband to make X amount of dollars every
05:35:28.000
year and he has to be this tall and he has to be this.
05:35:30.360
And if he doesn't check all the check marks, then he's not even worth trying for, or even
05:35:34.540
trying to put in time and see if that's a relationship that is worth your while.
05:35:44.280
And, uh, going back to the guy you dated, was that the guy you dated for two years when
05:36:01.580
Uh, and one muffin looks over and says, phew, it's hot in here.
05:36:05.460
The other muffin looks back and says, holy crap, a talking muffin.
05:36:56.520
I'm just waiting for the fireworks sound so I can, it's kind of loud, it's kind of loud
05:37:21.080
Okay, well, I'm gonna try to get through the pre-show.
05:37:22.620
I gotta get through the pre-show notes before they're back, because that's just gonna take
05:37:27.300
Uh, let's see, uh, okay, you were dating the crazy dude, uh, stalking, yep, terrible, very
05:37:36.560
bad, not cool, stalking, don't stalk, man or woman, woman or man, don't, don't stalk people,
05:37:42.060
fucked up, just move on, get plenty of fish in the sea.
05:37:45.160
Uh, hold on, I'm just trying to get through the notes here.
05:37:48.780
Um, you've said you, oh, we already did that, unrealistic expectations, has to make so much
05:37:57.260
money, buy certain things, has to be tall fit, et cetera, but what do they bring to the table?
05:38:06.320
We kind of did, yeah, like the, what do you bring to the table, but it was like within
05:38:09.680
the context of marriage, so, oh, welcome back, boom, anti, I don't know if this is a first,
05:38:17.120
a, a walk back, rage quit, it was, uh, reverse, yeah, you weren't so much a rage quit, the two
05:38:26.600
girls though, might've been, we have Sam here, also Idaho, you want to talk about dating in
05:38:37.860
I think I put on, like, something about online dating.
05:38:40.700
Uh, you said, uh, yeah, relationships are disposable, divorce rates are at an all-time
05:38:44.980
high, it seems like half of the women I come across have done or do OFs seeking arrangements,
05:38:48.700
but they can't find a good man and all men suck, that's what, you're saying that that's
05:38:56.840
Going around the table, what do you think of men, starting with you?
05:39:12.280
I think that a lot of the men I have come across right now in this time have been very much,
05:39:24.660
I would love to meet more men that are more focused on morals and integrity and independence
05:39:36.160
I feel like a lot of men are just, only money is on their mind, and I feel like there's a
05:39:43.720
One, I wouldn't say don't focus on money, but I want to say, I think men only focus on that,
05:39:49.100
and I would love to see a man who focuses on more.
05:40:04.580
So what do you think of men in general, I guess?
05:40:24.260
There are protectors, and it's definitely needed for the world to grow.
05:40:32.740
I think a lot of, I have two brothers, so they're definitely an inspiration to me.
05:40:38.360
My dad, he's the rock of the family, so I definitely love, I don't think I would like
05:40:48.220
I think a lot of the grown men in my life are great.
05:40:52.500
Yeah, your answer could just be like, men are great.
05:41:01.820
Well, like their existence, I don't really see a problem with it.
05:41:09.860
Well, if they weren't here, I feel like the world would burn.
05:41:15.760
I feel like men is like, it's something that we need in our lives.
05:41:21.200
They're the Yangtara Yang, and yeah, they're great.
05:41:26.200
At the end of the day, there's just good people and bad people out there.
05:41:35.780
Going back to Sam, you said you haven't dated around a lot, but your ex-boyfriend of three
05:41:42.620
Also, I think he had a porn addiction, which I feel like is a common problem with our culture.
05:41:48.200
I'll keep it short, but me and that guy, we dated for three years.
05:41:56.580
And towards the end of our relationship, I did find out that he was watching a lot of
05:42:02.900
And a lot of people that I've kind of talked to this about are basically are just like,
05:42:10.720
But at the same time, I think having that mentality is what's led us into this culture of, you
05:42:15.600
know, normalizing everybody doing OF and posting half-naked pictures on Instagram and things
05:42:26.340
But I don't know how much more you want me to go into it.
05:42:40.320
Well, actually, all of them kind of look similar.
05:42:45.060
It's some abstract art that I saw a few years ago, and I really liked it.
05:42:55.580
And then the other one is like, honestly, a basic white girl tattoo.
05:43:04.500
But the art, what is it about that that stood out?
05:43:15.340
And it was similar to the kind of stuff that I draw.
05:43:38.420
I feel like men ultimately want to be respected and listened to.
05:43:52.220
So, that kind of sounded like you were parroting what our blue dress friend over here said.
05:44:16.280
And that could be emotional support, physical support, just kind of all of that.
05:44:25.660
Just emotional support, a partnership, someone that they can share their life with and grow as a couple.
05:44:33.240
Just someone who supports you, is there for you, you know, to an extent, takes care of you, will bury your children, things like that.
05:44:42.060
Just overall a partner who will be there for you like no one else will.
05:44:50.760
I think trust and respect and, yeah, I don't know.
05:44:57.420
Peace, for you to be quiet, a good mother to future children.
05:45:36.660
But Brian likes bacon on his pizza and they're Muslims.
05:45:54.060
I think it's peace and respect and someone who's nurturing and caring.
05:46:01.280
What I have seen so far, like I previously said, I really think that men only want money and...
05:46:11.440
What do you think men want in a relationship from a woman?
05:46:22.440
From a relationship, I would say someone who only listens and does not respond.
05:46:38.700
Sex, fun, eye candy, and loyalty on someone who would be a good mom if they did want children with that person.
05:46:54.040
Questions for you, I think in your Instagram, Azira?
05:47:13.260
Andrew, if he wasn't married, I think you guys would...
05:47:33.960
First off, we don't have space for these two randoms.
05:47:44.720
If you know you don't deserve me, I'd rather be all alone.
05:47:54.260
Don't come and try to love me if you know you don't deserve me.
05:48:01.360
Would you rather be alone than settle for an average guy?
05:48:04.240
I don't have any problems with being with an average guy.
05:48:20.960
I think an average guy is a man who is a man, not a boy, has a job, can take care of himself, but is not overly rich or overly successful.
05:48:33.960
I consider average as middle class, and not considering his looks.
05:48:42.200
What do you think an average man is in his core, as a personality?
05:48:53.240
What does average mean as far as the person goes?
05:48:56.820
As far as the person goes, I would say most likely intelligence, as you were saying, and then also morals.
05:49:09.420
Like, he doesn't overly believe in certain things, but he also believes in good, but he doesn't just believe in, oh, you have to do this in a certain way.
05:49:19.880
I think average, for me, would be someone who's kind of in the middle standpoint of everything, whether it be, like...
05:49:30.600
Don't you think the average man believes in morality and, you know, kind of the dream of Americana?
05:49:54.860
But if you're talking about a person, what is an average person, an average man?
05:50:06.600
For me, an average man does have a lot to do with money and morals, because if you don't...
05:50:14.160
Yes, because I would say that a man who is, like, not average and is high standard is doing very well for himself and those all around him and is also able to make distinctive points of views in good ways.
05:50:32.180
I think average would be, to me, average is considered, like, you don't really have your own point of view.
05:50:47.780
My definition of an average man, I think an average man is a person who wants to reproduce and wants to take care of a family.
05:51:00.400
They may not be extreme on philosophy or overly educated, but they love their wife.
05:51:09.020
They're going to work hard every single day to make sure that they're okay.
05:51:18.080
I think that that is a trait which is very commonly found.
05:51:22.760
When you say average, what I hear from you is they have X amount in their pocketbook,
05:51:30.220
and it seems like you kind of are giving it a political leaning of moderate.
05:51:41.500
I think that they essentially value the things that you value.
05:51:51.440
That doesn't mean that, you know, they don't have good self-esteem
05:51:58.420
or that they're not at a job which is paying a decent wage.
05:52:06.440
So, when you say average, I kind of want to dive in here a little bit.
05:52:12.480
Maddie, press button A for blue dress to be your female alpha
05:52:27.380
Button A for blue dress to be your female alpha.
05:52:28.980
Well, I think the average guy is going to work at Amazon or a factory,
05:52:35.540
and he's going to come home and expect a piece in his home.
05:52:44.860
That is mainly how you explained it is also how I see it.
05:52:50.400
When I say as far as, like, income, that's what I'm saying.
05:52:56.840
When I say overly average, I consider that as someone who can take care of everyone around them.
05:53:04.560
But to me, an average man is someone who can just take care of himself.
05:53:09.660
He doesn't have as many, as many, he doesn't have such a big personality.
05:53:17.020
Like, he's kind of, like, in the midst of, like, being quiet, but also being, like, who he really is.
05:53:24.180
I feel like it's just everything that I see myself as,
05:53:28.460
I feel that if he's not able to be at that level with me, then he is considered average.
05:53:42.220
Because we're getting bogged down on every single new thing.
05:53:45.440
Can we make final points, please, from both of you?
05:53:50.640
Yeah, so you consider, you said, I consider average to be everything that I am.
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Like, what is a term that you would put over average?
05:54:17.460
Well, exceptional would be the opposite of average.
05:54:20.400
Someone who believes in the same things as I am and is open to communicating them and being able to express how they feel at the same level as I am.
05:54:31.320
Okay, well, let me just ask this last question very quickly.
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What do you think an average, average, not exceptional, but average woman expects from an average man?
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Whatever level she's at, I think she expects that.
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What would an average man need to do to meet you at your level?
05:55:06.920
He would need to express his needs and his love for people and for things more and be able to stand up for what is good and what is right.
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To just say what your preferences are and to be moral, that's extraordinary?
05:55:30.880
All right, moving things on, you said that you started your own church to save our generation.
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Also, let's please not get bogged down too long on, just so I can get through everybody and we can hopefully try not to be here for too late tonight.
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I was looking forward to starting my own church because I feel that everyone in this world, no matter what they believe in, because I find myself to be Christian, but I don't see that as the only reliable or valuable religion.
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No, no, it is possible because I know where I stand, but I don't think where I stand is the only place to be stood.
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I feel that no matter what you believe in, we all believe in something that's good, something that's a higher power.
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In learning multiple religions, you start to see similarities, and that's why I think it's really important to be able...
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Let me just ask you one question, and then we can move on very quickly.
05:57:02.140
We've already established that you're not a Christian.
05:57:09.840
You're just going to give us some prattle about something that's not Christianity.
05:57:27.500
He is a man that was put on earth to walk God's footsteps, to show us what is capable through the Lord.
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He was put on earth to show us how we can live as you.
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But I'm saying he was specifically put on earth.
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Can you explain how somebody could be born of a virgin without the divinity?
05:58:22.440
She'd just call herself exceptional, maybe at manipulation and forcing herself on others.
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When referring to men, most women would call the toxicant predatory.
05:58:32.920
Yeah, can you explain how a virgin could get pregnant absent God?
05:58:46.040
I would like to explain something very important that he asked me about.
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You've got to speak into the mic or I can't hear you.
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I would like to explain something very important that he asked me about my profile.
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If you can't explain how a virgin could become impregnated absent God, if you can't explain that,
05:59:15.920
And that's why if you let me finish on what he asked me, I can explain why I didn't end up starting a church.
05:59:25.060
Well, not really, because you said you were starting a church, but you didn't.
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I don't think the reasons why you didn't start the church are really material at this point.
05:59:43.580
Okay, so I did want to start a church because I wanted everyone who has talents on this earth that are using them for sin
05:59:51.760
to be able to bring their talents to God or whatever higher form that they see.
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But I realized that I wasn't able to do that yet because I am still learning, and I am working on myself.
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And there's a way to approach people when it comes to religion, and you have to be very open-minded,
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and you have to listen to people, and they also have to listen to you if you're saying the right thing.
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So I feel like I have a lot of self-work to do on myself before I can do it for everyone else.
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So, yes, I do want to start a church, but I am not able to right now.
06:00:42.120
You said you went on a hinged date, and this guy trauma-dumped all of his past relationships
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and was really exposing himself on all his weird kinks?
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And this story, how his actions led to this girl at a mental hospital.
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He was just full-on trauma-dumping and exposing himself to the first degree.
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I guess, because he really liked them, and he liked explaining it to me.
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Walking Roscoe underscore on underscore YouTube donated $77.77.
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Overly average is like someone shopping and asking for extra medium underwear.
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I'm going to come back to the weird kink dude, whatever.
06:02:03.780
You said you were a 10 earlier, but you said you were also fine with dating an average guy.
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So how do you reconcile you yourself being this, like, amazing 10 who's willing to date an average guy?
06:02:15.600
I reconcile that because I don't think that I'm too good for anyone.
06:02:21.560
I do see myself as a high standard and a high level,
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and I believe that other people can see me that way, too.
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and I feel like even though someone, I can see them rather than, like, exceptional to average,
06:02:38.400
I still feel like I could be compatible with them
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because there are certain characteristics that draw people to each other
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no matter what your, like, status is on looks or financial.
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I feel like I could be able to meet anyone anywhere
06:02:58.040
Anyways, back to weird threesome kink guy who trauma-dumped.
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Like, he told me a story where he was doing it one time,
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and, like, her nose started bleeding, and he, like, rubbed his thumb on it and waved it.
06:03:23.700
Although, I guess he's down for period sex, so...
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Would this be a turn-on if you heard a guy say this?
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And the guy was like, well, I guess we got to make a fucking mess then.
06:04:10.360
I mean, the way he said it, I think it's Matt, right?
06:04:21.300
She has this bit where she's like, yeah, I was on my period.
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And it was like, she said it was the most romantic, hottest thing ever.
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Would that be, if a guy said that when you were...
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I think it's better if he was just polite and like...
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No, he's like, I guess we got to make a fucking mess then.
06:04:58.520
So, this girl, I guess, was like really in love with him and then he broke it off with
06:05:04.240
her and she started getting with his friend and they went to Arizona and shit went down
06:05:12.820
and so the friend left her and so she ended up going to a mental hospital because she had
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It's 2 a.m. here, but guys, all of you on the panel, thank you so much for having me
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on this evening and I'll do a raid over this way.
06:05:35.160
Hey, Andrew, thank you so much for tuning in, man.
06:05:37.520
Yeah, we definitely appreciate if you can shoot us a raid and yeah, thank you so much, Andrew.
06:06:07.180
So, the guy, the dude, he, you said he was exposing himself.
06:06:16.020
What was like the other biggest thing that he did?
06:06:18.560
Um, he was telling, um, he was telling, telling me all of these crazy stories that he's had
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Like, okay, you're telling all of this to me on the first date.
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And he goes, oh, I'm really into this, this, and this.
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And then he tells me all these stories about these girls that he's been with and crazy
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Maybe he was just trying to brag and it wasn't real.
06:07:04.440
I guess better to have found out sooner than later.
06:07:12.820
Yeah, that's, do you think he like pulls though?
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Like, even though he like says all this shit, do you think he pulled on dates?
06:07:29.800
That's a bold tactic to like, go on a date with a chick and be like, here's how I ruined
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We're not like, hey, what is he older than you or younger?
06:08:00.980
We're going to get into, for the last, like, hour of the show or whatever, we're going
06:08:06.640
to get into heated debates on feminism, man versus bear.
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There's a development in the man versus bear thing.
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We're going to also, we're going to hit, we're going to touch on feminism, man versus bear.
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And I think, probably, we're going to talk about other things.
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Do you guys think in the chat that it is, if a girl previously dated a dude like that,
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Like, because I was thinking about this with the body count conversation.
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Like, how guys don't like girls with high body counts, right?
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And I was thinking, like, well, what if she has, like, a higher body count, but, like,
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But then she, like, fucked one dude, but that dude is, like, your fucking sworn enemy piece
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of shit, like, just scumbag ratty motherfucker.
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And I was thinking, like, I would kind of rather a chick have sex with, like, three wholesome,
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good, like, virgin dudes than some, like, total fuck boy, piece of shit, fucking face-tatted
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motherfucker with, like, fucking SoundCloud-ass rapper motherfucking-having scumbag bitch-ass
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Do you know what, like, do you know what I was like?
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I would rather her have a higher body count, but she fucked with good dudes than, like,
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she fucked one dude who's, like, scum of the fucking earth.
06:10:29.100
Would you find it kind of nice, though, that, like, you're the first good guy?
06:10:42.280
No, it's, like, she finally got treated right by someone, and she holds you in really high
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regards because you're the first good guy that it's been in her life.
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Like, she's like, oh my gosh, you're the first good guy.
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Oh, I don't have a praise kink in my direction.
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Like, that's the opposite of, like, the degradation shit.
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But I do think, though, the whole body count discourse, even if the body count's one, but
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the guy's a total fucking scumbag, that's bad, too.
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Like, I'd rather have a body count of three, but they were good dudes, than her have a body
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count of one, but he was a massive fucking scumbag.
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But was he good and then turned into a massive fuckboy?
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I mean, whatever, scum, or was he, like, scum to begin with?
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Would you prefer a girl who has a body count of three, but they were, like, good dudes,
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or a body count of one, but the dude was a massive fucking rat, piece of shit, motherfucking
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bothersome, piece of scumbag, asshole, fucking cocksucker, motherfucker.
06:12:21.440
I kind of think guys would prefer that, though.
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Which do you prefer, the three body count or the one body count?
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And you've got to think, okay, I'll ask this follow-up question after this.
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The girl has a body count of three, but they were good dudes who were virgins.
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Or she has a body count of one, but the dude she fucked has a body count of, like, 500.
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So, chat, the body count of three, all virgins, or body count of one, but the dude had a body,
06:13:41.540
So she basically lost her virginity to this demon dude.
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So there's that dude, or she took three dudes' virginity.
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Like, okay, so, yeah, let's say she took three dudes' virginities.
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Wouldn't that make her, like, the piece of shit?
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What if, like, he just so happened to be a virgin?
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But then you go to the number one, and maybe he manipulated her,
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and she was, like, innocent, but, like, wanted to try the bad boy, you know?
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If you're doing the three-guy one, like, she obviously had, like, a motive.
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But then the one, it's like, oh, my first guy who's giving me attention.
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It's just a thought that crossed my mind on the body count discourse.
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You had, is it bad to be friends with your ex if you were together almost four years ago,
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and you both have no feelings towards each other?
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Are you friends with your ex from four years ago?
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Even if he verbally tells me that he's into other girls?
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I choose to blank to, bro, to midget blank in a red ant's nest than either of the options.
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To, in a red, first off, don't knock midget porn, you fucking asshole.
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I, I, solidarity with short, short women, okay?
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Yeah, does the labia match, like, what you're doing for?
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I'm going to have you, so go over there, Morgan.
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We were supposed to, yeah, you got to take the, I forgot.
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Bro, if they're leaving, they just got to be...
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I can't believe I have to repeat this every show.
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Hey, let's get her moving out of here because there's too much talking back here.
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I would applaud anyone that changed their promiscuous behavior, but their past has consequences.
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It can be respected, but it's not unreasonable for me to exclude them from my dating pool.
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You guys can chime in if any of you object to this.
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Any race is fine, but slight preference for white women or Asian women.
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But I feel like once you get into that height, don't you have like health problems and shit?
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Obviously, like hygiene, grooming and shit's important, but strong preference.
06:20:22.860
If you look at Greek statues, Roman statues, historical statues, these women didn't have fucking
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So, what I like to say is, everyone's going to hate me, even the small titty.
06:20:44.880
I think, so, a woman who has big boobs can be sexy and hot and attractive, but I don't think
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I only think, like, small titty chicks can be beautiful.
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Don't get, you can be sexy as fuck hot with giant melon can-crusher titties for sure.
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But, what I'm saying is, I don't think you can be beautiful.
06:21:25.180
There's, like, certain things, like, that I would, even before I had my implants on, I
06:21:28.900
always had the bigger boobs, where, like, there's certain things that I can't wear, where
06:21:32.380
it's, like, the ones that have the slashes, it's, like, more elegant dresses.
06:21:37.780
So, there is definitely a different beauty to it.
06:21:46.280
Like, if a girl has a huge butt, you think she can just be sexy, but if she has, like,
06:21:56.520
Like, a big butt's kind of nice to look at, but for, like, speed...
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For speed, it's, like, can sometimes get in the way.
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...and some, like, big booty, it's, like, it can be nice to look at, but I feel like
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when it comes down to it, when it comes down, like, it kind of makes it harder.
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One with a felony for throwing an ex down the stairs.
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Now I'm married to her, and she thinks I'm sweet and a god.
06:23:10.080
My wife had three bad boys before me and one banned from Cuba.
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I mean, I think what you're saying, but I don't know what you're saying.
06:23:52.160
I understand a little bit where he's coming from on, like, it could be harder because
06:24:09.960
I mean, the way he was talking about it, I thought we were running.
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I feel like it's, like, it's just, like, a lodge.
06:24:29.820
Brian, sadly, most women you have on listen and take advice like Trump catches bullets,
06:24:37.300
How do we get women to admit they are not logical thinkers and to submit to pure logic?
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I feel like as long as you have the rhythm and you're all going with the same waves, it works.
06:25:08.720
You got a really good point on that because, like, it...
06:25:14.280
Like, what's it called when a girl puts it back on a...
06:25:18.160
I'm, like, oh, bro, you might throw my back out, bro.
06:25:26.820
That's, like, where, like, the saying comes in where it's, like, no, that's, like, a lot of ass to handle.
06:25:54.060
You know, it's like those people who are, like, so since you guys have been asking about my skin care routine, let me tell you about it.
06:26:01.080
So, okay, I'll just give you one scenario where it could present a potential issue, right?
06:26:08.080
If the girl's on top and she's just, boom, rocking, dies, rocking, booty rocking.
06:26:27.000
Speaking about banger, small booties are better for us guys who are less than seven.
06:26:41.400
Oh, so, okay, if the girl's on top, right, and, like, if you're trying to, like...
06:26:48.060
Okay, she's on top and she's, like, laying down chest to chest, basically.
06:26:55.720
You're, like, trying to reach around and rub her clit.
06:27:16.080
Tobey Maguire got bit by a spider, but Brian, Andrew, and Trump must have been bit by a goat.
06:27:46.720
Yeah, but I'm just saying it, like, can complicate things a little bit.
06:27:54.260
Oh, slight preference for dark hair, but, like, don't really care.
06:28:04.700
I wouldn't disqualify a girl if she had, like, red hair, you know?
06:28:12.940
We already talked about labia, so that's kind of out there in the...
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You guys know what I'm talking about with the whole cello thing, right?
06:29:03.220
Like, it probably has to do with something with...
06:29:10.000
I say that as a joke, though, because, like, we've had this conversation on the show before.
06:29:15.620
But it's like, if, like, all that's on the table is a handy, I kind of don't want it.
06:29:23.820
Like, if a girl's like, well, I'll give you a hand job, I'd be like, excuse me.
06:29:31.920
Well, I feel like, no, you guys, I mean, you don't...
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Boys, if all that's on the table is a hand job, do you just turn it down?
06:29:53.120
I don't know if I just have dick discipline, but, like, I'd rather just not...
06:30:05.900
Chat, would you turn down, do you turn down the handy?
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Like, I don't think I've ever had, like, a good hand...
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And, like, what situation would a girl only give you a handy, though?
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I don't know how it happened, but that's how it happened.
06:31:01.860
I don't want to, like, say anything a bit vulgar, so I don't...
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I feel like you guys are a little too innocent for this, you know?
06:31:27.660
I have this shit written down, if it sounds like I'm reading from a list.
06:31:55.960
So, basically, what that means, once I step into your life, there can't be other dudes
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Like, first date, you want a second date, it has to be a wrap with the other dudes.
06:32:12.320
Because I'm not, like, I don't want to be in this situation-ship for three months, you're
06:32:17.740
Like, if I like a girl, I like the girl, and I'm going to pursue that.
06:32:22.800
So, all these people, that's one of the big things, complaints from both men and women
06:32:29.960
It's people just in these situation-ships for months on the end, nothing ever materializes.
06:32:43.720
Like, I've never been able to date multiple people at the same time.
06:32:47.880
It's like, if the first date doesn't go well, then that's done with.
06:32:51.700
But I'm kind of, like, that tunnel vision, too, where it's like, I just don't know how
06:33:00.920
Well, for example, I mean, this is how strict I am with, like, if she's involved with other
06:33:07.480
I remember one time, I was on a phone call with a girl, because I'll always, like, if
06:33:10.720
I meet a girl on a dating app, I'm not on dating apps anymore, but if I meet a girl
06:33:14.700
on a dating app, or when I was on them, I'd always do a phone call first.
06:33:21.100
I like to do FaceTime, make sure that your pictures match what you're saying.
06:33:25.160
So, I do a phone call, and I had this girl say, on the phone call, she was like, oh, hey,
06:33:30.960
I got to go, because I'm going on a date with another dude.
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And, like, even that, even though I've never met her, that's a deal breaker for me.
06:33:43.180
Maddie, button to accept what Brian tells you what a woman is.
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Or button B, accept what blue dress tells you what a woman is.
06:33:52.720
Like, the definition of a woman, I feel like they would have the both, the same definition,
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A woman is somebody who can carry life and give birth.
06:34:19.320
Well, it was, oh, undivided romantic and sexual attention.
06:34:26.460
She called you and told you she was going on a date with another guy?
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And she tells me, oh, hey, I have to run into dinner because I have a date.
06:34:44.420
She could have said, like, we're going to dinner.
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I feel like even if I did have that, too, I wouldn't tell the guy because I'm like, hold on.
06:34:54.220
Now, that's, I mean, but so if I go on a first date with a girl and she wants to go on a second date with me,
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it has to be a wrap for all the other dudes that she's talking to if she wants a second date.
06:35:10.820
But if you want a second date, it has to be a wrap with other dudes.
06:35:15.840
Is that something that you disclose to her or you expect of her?
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Or, like, is that something normally, like, on the first date?
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I'll even tell a girl before I first meet up with her.
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I'm like, look, I'm not interested in, like, some casual shit where you're fucking other dudes.
06:35:36.700
You can get with the program or you can back to the streets you go.
06:35:40.960
I feel like when you have your intentions set, then, like, either they like it or they don't.
06:35:47.000
It's like, yeah, you're honest about what you want.
06:35:52.340
So you're not just dating to just hook up or have situationships.
06:35:57.260
Did you make that a rule because, like, that's happened multiple times?
06:36:01.660
Or it was just, like, something you thought on the top of your head?
06:36:05.200
Well, I just don't want to be involved with a girl who's romantically or sexually involved with another man.
06:36:09.780
So, like, I don't want to hook up with – I don't – I wouldn't even – even if I was inclined to just – even if I was just inclined to have a one-night stand, I wouldn't even want to do it with a woman who's sexually involved with another man.
06:36:26.360
I feel like women have – when they're sexually, it's like you're emotionally involved.
06:36:29.880
So there's definitely a tie there because I don't believe that women can just have sex, to have sex, casual sex.
06:36:45.420
But, yeah, I mean, I would agree with you, too.
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The ones that do are, like, a little mentally challenged.
06:36:54.160
But I think that, at least for me, since I know what I'm looking for –
06:37:02.260
Brian, lay off of the edibles and the drinks, brother.
06:37:06.840
Just tell the ladies that being 30 pounds overweight is unattractive.
06:37:28.920
I got chunky since the last time you were on, right?
06:37:34.720
He said, I got chunky since the last time you were on.
06:37:38.220
I was like, you were drinking during that interview?
06:37:46.520
So just because I know exactly what I'm looking for, I definitely think that – because I
06:37:53.420
have no interest in just, like, fucking a girl once and never talking to her again.
06:37:57.200
If I sleep with a girl, I want there to be continuity.
06:38:11.660
But, I mean, I think that's my – at least prescriptive advice to other men.
06:38:15.940
If you – at least if you know what you want and you want a relationship, you want something
06:38:20.380
long-term with a girl, you've got to make sure she's on the same page with you.
06:38:25.800
Like, you've got to – because the way a lot of people move, both men and women, but
06:38:29.960
I can only speak from the male experience here, a lot of people be dating multiple people,
06:38:38.880
If a girl's fucking another guy and she's trying to mess with me, I'm not interested.
06:38:44.880
I don't – like, it's such a turnoff to be dealing with a chick that's fucking somebody
06:38:51.260
I don't care how hot she is, how cool she is, how attractive she is.
06:38:54.820
If there's another dude in the picture in some way, romance – certainly sexual, that's
06:39:02.400
But, yeah, my advice to dudes, to guys are your standard should be to – anywhere from
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sleeping with a girl to being in a relationship with a girl.
06:39:13.140
Clearly, there cannot be other dudes in the picture.
06:39:17.380
I think even my last relationship, how I set the boundary where it was, like, where
06:39:23.800
I said, listen, the moment we get intimate, like, it's game over.
06:39:29.960
And I know – I think he had a couple of dates lined up after our date, which he ended
06:39:34.400
up canceling it because I'm like, no, this is not what I thought.
06:39:43.360
Yeah, and I guess to just add on to my point, a lot of these dudes – I've heard these
06:39:50.640
Like, oh, okay, if she's kind of, like, slutty, then just sleep with her.
06:39:53.920
Or, like, bro, even – like, there's no realm if she – there's no realm, even if you're
06:40:00.740
inclined to have casual sex, should you sleep with a girl who's fucking other men?
06:40:07.960
So this recreational use thing is, like, being a cuck with extra steps.
06:40:13.240
Like, you should not desire to sleep with – like, recreational use only.
06:40:25.060
It has to be a wrap if she's sexually involved with another dude.
06:40:29.480
And I don't like the term recreational use only.
06:40:36.980
I don't like that terminology, but it's got to be a wrap.
06:40:43.680
What do they look up the terminology to understand the podcast?
06:40:49.260
And then I'm trying to think if there's anything else.
06:41:16.060
Yeah, that's definitely a, you know, stern talking to.
06:41:22.700
I get home from a long day at the podcast studio.
06:41:51.280
I mean, if you're asking for it, then yeah, sure.
06:42:13.480
Every time you send in a TTS, this is your noise now.
06:42:40.500
I'm only allowed to disappoint one woman at a time.
06:43:03.440
Would you guys have a threesome going around that?
06:43:25.000
I like question people who actually do do that.
06:43:50.440
It would have to, like, I wouldn't do the work to make it.
06:43:53.660
Like, it would have to just fall into my lap somehow.
06:44:09.960
So it just extended the arguments for no apparent reason.
06:44:13.600
We're literally having the same argument over and over because she wasn't listening.
06:44:17.880
I definitely love that they're passionate about what they were saying.
06:44:20.700
But it's just, like, learn to listen so we can have, wrap up an argument.
06:44:36.240
I'm going to pretend like you didn't just make my dick go soft.
06:45:00.740
No, that wasn't like, that wasn't like, it's not like, I would bow to other women.
06:45:19.580
If your chick asked you to bow every time she came up.
06:45:23.000
No, but in a life or death situation, I would protect her.
06:45:29.080
I would, actually, no, I wouldn't though, because I wouldn't take the bullet, right?
06:45:36.780
I would dispatch, I would have to pull out my self-defense mechanism and protect her with
06:45:49.080
Honestly, I like, if it was like a kind of like we were, I like to be silly with my girl.
06:45:55.080
Like, it's fun to be kind of like goofy, silly.
06:45:56.540
But honestly, if she was like, let me hit a bow, I'd probably fucking do it.
06:45:59.960
Just if it was like a silly context, but like a serious context, hell no, I'm not bowing.
06:46:06.000
Like just if we're goofing off or whatever, fuck, yeah, I'm not, I'm not tripping about
06:46:22.040
Have you, have you any dating prospects, Morgan?
06:46:49.960
We're going to get through a rapid fire section here.
06:47:10.720
I'm going to go through my rapid fire questions.
06:47:19.840
Would you rather be alone in the forest with a random man or a random bear?
06:47:58.300
Well, I feel like based off the bear thing, you guys aren't really going to give me.
06:48:02.140
I mean, we can give you different answers if you want.
06:48:04.940
I've actually seen a lot of videos lately about men posting videos about this topic.
06:48:09.760
And they're like, sometimes I do understand why women choose bear.
06:48:13.500
Because, like, I don't know, in the context, it was like, oh, like, I was in a club, like,
06:48:18.620
and some guys don't know how to take no for an answer.
06:48:22.900
Well, I feel like in the bear, though, like, there's a thought that the man could kill me,
06:48:31.740
I feel like I have, I can climb the tree and get away from the bear.
06:48:46.480
He's there for the same reason that you are there.
06:48:57.160
I feel like this is a question where if, like, the first four people say man.
06:49:05.720
Because the moment you said alone with a man in the thing, I was like, murder.
06:49:09.120
I feel like it's also just, like, the way we phrase it.
06:49:13.980
It wasn't supposed to fall, so I didn't mean to, like, throw it at you.
06:49:22.840
So the bit, the bit, I got this, uh, hold on, let me put it on.
06:49:27.920
Boys, I got this spider, and I thought, like, if, maybe I gotta do this differently, but
06:49:35.240
if a girl says bear, maybe I, like, one of you guys can just walk behind them and, like,
06:49:48.240
The way, he just, like, aggressively checked it.
06:49:51.440
The way he threw it, like, a ninja star, and it fell off.
06:49:55.320
It was supposed to, like, land right there, but I think maybe one of you, like, put some,
06:50:01.520
some, like, something on the table, and it just, like, slid right off.
06:50:18.060
We are gonna, the whatever podcast, the whatever podcast is gonna adopt a tarantula.
06:50:33.700
If you get a snake or a spider, I would love to see it.
06:50:48.680
Okay, let's get through a couple more questions.
06:51:05.140
I mean, it would depend, but I wouldn't just, like, discriminate.
06:51:18.120
No, but are you, like, more conservative or more liberal?
06:51:32.800
I don't think I could date someone with the opposite political, so yes.
06:52:06.860
Wait, but you said you've only been seeing him for a short period of time?
06:52:36.420
He has a really, really big head on his shoulders.
06:53:23.660
This is, like, but it's weird because after the ex and I broke up, I tried to go back
06:53:27.100
on the app, and it said, oh, well, if you want to, what is it, appeal, email us before
06:53:36.860
I'm, like, well, the time has kind of passed, but I have no idea why.
06:53:56.320
So, apparently, we've been reacting to these recent age gap relationships.
06:54:00.140
Last week, we reacted to Tobey Maguire, 49, Spider-Man, dating a 20-year-old.
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Anthony Kiedis in his 60s, dating a 20-year-old.
06:54:09.560
Gerard Butler is, Nick, if you can find something on this.
06:54:23.760
Somebody sent me a story, but I can't, damn it, I can't find it.
06:55:14.900
Gerard Butler, 54, finds love again with stunning model 25, years his junior.
06:55:59.400
So, just going around the table, would you do, like, an age gap relationship?
06:56:18.960
I don't think I could date anyone older than probably 30.
06:56:35.380
I mean, it's odd because they always end up being younger.
06:56:48.520
Well, I mean, I think I got picked up on at the urgent care for my dog.
06:57:11.700
I mean, my husband's 11 years older than me, so I'm fine with age gaps.
06:57:15.120
But I think if somebody is like 30 years older or 20 years older and they're just like a slob and clearly look their age and this is like a hot young model that's clearly transactional, I mean, he's not bad looking.
06:57:40.820
Without having known his age, would you have dated him then?
06:58:18.220
I think Sacha Baron Cohen should have, honestly.
06:58:47.120
So, Nick, if you can get Bumble running, where is.
06:59:33.220
I don't really have like a set age because it depends on the.
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How they look and how they take care of themselves.
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This is why I would never be able to do online dating, though.
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It's funny, because when I was 21, I used to think guys who were 25 were so old.
07:02:21.280
You always ask these girls if they date an older man, but you never ask us men if we date
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Ladies, if you think you're stastically safer with a bear, you're ideologically possessed
07:03:23.200
Who can specifically describe what feminism is?
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Actually, I have one last note for you before we get back into the dating app review.
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I think originally when you reached out, we were trying to get a bunch of your girlfriends
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on, but you said they all chickened out besides Sonia here, who's a legend.
07:04:07.180
Brian, rate the panel on how long they survive in the woods alone.
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The two in the corner who rage quit are the epitome of feminist indoctrination such that
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they challenge anything that goes against their worldview and must be right with the last word in everything.
07:04:35.880
Honestly, I don't think any of you would survive.
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So, rate us how many days we would survive out of 100.
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I think half of you would be able to find water.
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There's also, like, the whole, you know, you need to start a fire, keep heat.
07:05:09.340
It's summertime, so you won't die of, you know, exposure.
07:05:14.380
But if you're in the woods, I mean, you have shade.
07:05:32.160
How much can, like, a human survive just, like, no food, no water again?
07:05:43.760
You can't survive without air for, like, a minute.
07:05:54.320
I feel like all of us would last at least a week.
07:05:57.100
Chat, how much, how long can you go without food?
07:06:04.260
Well, no, because people literally fast 40 days.
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It also, you have to be drinking, like, mineral water when you fast, too, right?
07:06:35.640
But I was saying I would give it two weeks, too.
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I honestly found out what Fortnite was because I work here.
07:07:21.720
What the fuck do you say to me, you little shit?
07:07:32.120
It's called you kiss your mother with that fucking mouth?
07:07:43.040
I don't know why you shut up when I'm talking to you.
07:07:50.380
I've never triggered that, by the way, in like 200 episodes.
07:08:11.400
I literally have sounds on my soundboard I've never fucking triggered.
07:08:15.920
I was going to say, what makes you listen to a sound and be like,
07:08:51.700
All right, boys, we're going to get her a date who's not a bitch.
07:09:00.280
I feel like that was like three days ago when we started this conversation.
07:09:13.660
You don't like his little tattoo, anime tattoo?
07:09:58.400
I always wonder what they think when they post their pictures with guys.
07:10:09.700
Oh, Nick, you know what we should have done, bro?
07:10:13.000
Oh, did you tell the red-haired girl who left in your private chat the whole, like, they're
07:10:19.560
I think we kind of spoke about it down there, and I shouldn't have.
07:10:26.200
She was just saying it's an excuse, so she didn't need it.
07:10:41.800
Or we could do Lizzie really quick, and she could say, if she was single, what her type
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Do you consider yourself a feminist going around the table, starting with you?
07:11:04.160
Damn, I shouldn't have told those chicks to shut the fuck up.
07:11:12.140
Kind of like Janara fumbled bag with that really nice guy who didn't want her to vape and was
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We're going to let a few come in, and then we're going to wrap the show.
07:11:57.980
While we're doing that, any final thoughts from anybody?
07:12:00.720
Anything you guys want to argue on, debate on, talk about, any dating stuff, anything before
07:12:09.200
Jessica, I know you're dying to drop some truth bombs.
07:12:17.280
Say you were in, like, what's, like, a decent length of a relationship?
07:12:25.960
What is a good amount of time to take to yourself to heal?
07:12:33.440
Like, it depends on the nature of the relationship.
07:12:36.100
They say, like, you have to wait a whole, what's the equivalent?
07:12:42.540
Half the time of how long the relationship was?
07:12:44.300
So, like, if the relationship was six months, then you'd wait three months.
07:12:49.560
And honestly, it just depends on where you are.
07:12:55.660
I think they more so say that's how long it takes to heal.
07:13:02.760
So, if you date somebody two years, it's going to take you a year to get over that shit.
07:13:07.900
Date somebody for six years, it's going to take you, damn, three years, really?
07:13:15.720
I wouldn't date for so long if I, like, ever did end up, like, breaking up with my boyfriend.
07:13:28.260
Probably, like, five to ten years I wouldn't date.
07:13:33.900
You guys have been dating for, what, two years?
07:13:36.080
You're going to grieve a two-year relationship for five years, Maddie?
07:13:40.100
I actually think I probably wouldn't date for five years.
07:13:54.460
I promise you I probably wouldn't date for five years.
07:14:32.660
My ex dated me for five years and she waited about five hours before getting underneath
07:14:57.220
Okay, but Mazdas are like really good parts of the car accident.
07:15:05.820
Is this from like two shows ago when I was dunking on Mazda Miatas?
07:15:10.200
Wait, look, you were like talking crap about them?
07:15:18.580
Oh, he drove by and he was like, shitty YouTube.
07:15:24.940
And Brian was like, nobody wants to be in your shitty Mazda truck.
07:15:31.760
Ladies, we all know what the dating world is like for single mothers.
07:15:36.200
I would like to know what your take on single fathers would be.
07:15:48.120
Men are expected to catch a bullet for their girl.
07:15:51.840
More interesting, would you jump in front to protect the president?
07:15:56.020
How are we supposed to roast well-behaved sweet ladies?
07:16:03.940
Time release underscore one donated 30 dollars.
07:16:09.360
Science shows that taller people are more susceptible to cancer.
07:16:12.940
If women keep breeding specifically with taller men along with the birth crisis,
07:16:33.520
So, going back to Lord Buell, he's, uh, take on single fathers.
07:16:41.400
Would you date, uh, just a show of hands, would you date a single father?
07:16:51.220
Women voting should be based on whether they're draftable.
07:17:00.060
And that is why women shouldn't be allowed to vote.
07:17:14.800
Nick, could you pull up that photo of the Secret Service lady who was, like, hiding behind?
07:17:24.240
So, there was a lady in the front, and then a lady in the back.
07:17:26.460
Yeah, there's a lady in the front, and then there's a lady in the back.
07:17:35.800
You can only pick one, allowed access to contraception and have to sign up for the draft.
07:17:41.500
Or, never be forced to sign up for the draft and not allowed access to contraception.
07:18:12.120
Imagine, though, like, I do wonder, do you think the assassination attempt
07:18:27.280
A lot of people are sympathizing for him right now.
07:18:29.760
If he goes through all of that and he doesn't win, then what was it all for?
07:18:39.760
Birthrate plummeting is the biggest crisis facing this planet.
07:18:43.480
Good on you for the women of the planet willing to save it rather than hedonistic pleasure.
07:19:01.600
The dating apps are indeed a modern-day dating hellscape.
07:19:07.520
Roughly 80% of females over 30 on the apps of children.
07:19:11.880
That's a massive liability taking on another man's children.
07:19:18.860
Yeah, I mean, look, if you don't want to date somebody who has a child, I think that's totally fine.
07:19:25.480
Probably for the best, for the sake of the mom, father, or child.
07:19:30.780
If you don't want to date somebody who has a kid, man.
07:19:34.280
Wait, so Maddie, you would take five years to get rough.
07:19:38.760
I would probably take, like, one full year after to, like, actually, like, probably get back to my normal groove.
07:19:48.860
And then I'd probably take another year after that to just, I wouldn't date for at least, like, okay, now you're kind of making me seem like I'm crazy.
07:20:03.880
Look, I think that's a sign of a good girl there.
07:20:07.040
Like, for me, for me personally, if I was dating a chick for six months, I would kind of want her to be, like, never date again.
07:20:19.980
Oh, we dated for six months, and you become a nun?
07:20:23.680
Like, you couldn't love anybody else, and you still.
07:20:29.440
That's actually, even if we don't date, I think that should be the standard of, like, what would be a good woman?
07:20:46.340
I think after my last relationship, the one that was three years.
07:20:49.420
I would become a nun until, like, we get back together again.
07:20:56.840
I was celibate for five years in between both relationships.
07:21:00.680
I would become a nun until he's ready to get back with me.
07:21:17.040
The woman's standing on a cliff, and she stands there, and she's like, I will not leave this spot until my man comes back.
07:21:28.720
That's what I think, if I match with some chick on Tinder and we, like, fuck for six months, I think she should never date again.
07:21:39.520
I think if I date a girl for six months, she should just never.
07:22:11.620
I think we would both probably, like, three to five years.
07:22:36.520
Would you girls be upset if you broke up with a guy you're dating for, like, two years?
07:22:41.420
And then, like, but otherwise, like, good relationship, kind of.
07:22:53.580
If you can't scroll through nature is metal on Instagram without looking away, never pick bear.
07:23:05.660
Remember the girl that lived in a car with her boyfriend and didn't get over him?
07:23:17.980
I gave you the sound, but now that you said that, sound revoked.
07:23:22.520
You're the only person who has a sound, and you just got it revoked, bro.
07:23:38.140
Oh, you broke up with a guy, dating for a year, and then, like, he smashes a girl the next day.
07:23:56.040
Because you're probably thinking about that girl throughout the whole entire relationship.
07:24:01.880
I just think that if you're, like, if you're, I guess, um...
07:24:10.520
Every man wants a woman as committed to him as Steve Irwin's wife is to him.
07:24:15.240
Even after all this time, she hasn't been on a date and focuses on family instead.
07:24:24.980
Is it, yeah, is it, like, uh, like, if I pass away and, like, she just, I don't want her
07:24:58.740
Make America great and glorious and good and gruesome and gigantic and gluey and gooey again.
07:25:20.940
And it doesn't, honestly, it doesn't even matter.
07:25:26.020
I was going to say that if their solution is to just, like, get sex right after a breakup,
07:25:33.600
you kind of question, like, if that person even really...
07:25:41.140
I'm just going to gaslight the fuck out of you.
07:26:03.180
Brian, base blue dresser's answer on how long she survives for 100 days.
07:26:11.400
Wait, base blue dresser's answer on how long she survives for 100 days?
07:26:27.260
Bro, you're going to have to drop another, though, since I just gave you a sound.
07:26:44.240
Because the kids have to process it and, like...
07:26:47.160
How could you get mad at the guy if you break up with him, and then he goes out and, like,
07:26:54.420
I think it depends on why you broke up with him.
07:26:58.140
If it's like, okay, I broke up with him because...
07:27:02.300
By all means, yeah, go do your thing, because that's on me, then.
07:27:06.980
You broke up with him because he couldn't keep up with your sex drive?
07:27:21.860
Then I would be mad, because it's like, you couldn't do that in the relationship.
07:27:27.740
Have you guys seen that meme where it's, like, guys say they want a girl with high sex drive
07:27:34.180
until they meet a girl who wants to fuck six times a day?
07:27:49.780
I think as soon as the breakup occurs, you can go right back up.
07:27:57.460
Speaking of moving on too quick, chick next to Brian.
07:28:01.340
You said G.I. Joe was just a friend before you started dating.
07:28:05.840
Was that what you told the ex you dated before him?
07:28:12.520
I didn't become friends with him until after my last relationship, so we didn't know each
07:28:27.260
Any other final things before we wrap up here, guys?
07:28:42.080
Oh, I'm going to go home and watch House of the Dragon.
07:28:56.540
Did you guys see the fucking episode last week, bro?
07:29:08.220
I think it's one of the best episodes in the entire fucking franchise.
07:29:13.100
House of the Dragon, better than Game of Thrones.
07:29:23.300
I can't commit unless there's at least four seasons.
07:29:25.920
They're going to fucking spoil this shit for me.
07:29:35.160
See, I can't commit unless there's three, because then I would have to wait.
07:29:54.900
So, you are a lady, and you're best friends with a princess.
07:30:04.120
And this princess, she actually is named Heir to the throne.
07:30:40.320
Your friend, her dad is, like, the number one consultant for the king.
07:31:06.380
So, because your mom passed away in childbirth...
07:31:14.240
Ladies, raise your hand if you have ever camped for five days.
07:31:18.840
The big tree forest is the best spot to test out your camping skills.
07:31:46.740
So, he marries your best friend who's, like, 20.
07:32:15.480
Try to make a claim, potentially, to your throne.
07:32:20.880
And how do you feel about your best friend fucking your dad, the king?
07:32:31.940
I mean, the sons, it's going to take a while for them to claim to the throne.
07:32:39.500
My best friend knows me, so she knows what I love.
07:32:47.760
You're fine with your best friend fucking your dad?
07:32:55.500
I don't know what you expected me to do, dot, no.
07:32:59.760
Can we get a u-woo from each of the girls on the panel?
07:33:13.320
We cannot end the stream until every girl here does it.
07:33:25.520
I'm going to change the TTS voice to a French guy.
07:33:36.680
Actually, do we, I'm changing it to a German guy, boys.
07:33:56.600
Have you seen the plastic surgeon guessing each of UK Love Island cast?
07:34:00.700
They've all been ruined by excessive plastic surgery.
07:34:03.220
Also, Iren Moriarty had made the voice of the Vorschau almost unwatchable.
07:34:53.300
Blue dress was that the king's order that you accepted were the hand's orders?
07:35:18.260
Since that, I'm going to change it to Japanese and I'm going to re-trigger it.
07:36:06.420
Your best friend, your best friend fucks her dad, marries him, and has children, which
07:36:15.540
will potentially challenge your claim to the Iron Throne, which will potentially challenge
07:36:26.720
Yeah, I don't have a choice, so I'm just going to let it happen.
07:36:29.080
Yeah, but you can not be friends with her anymore.
07:36:36.500
Yeah, no, I wouldn't be friends with her anymore.
07:36:43.000
Well, if it was, like, the only choice, I'd feel weird at first, but then I'd be like,
07:36:49.940
Like, imagine having those conversations with your friend.
07:36:54.080
Well, we're not going to have those conversations anymore.
07:37:30.840
You know, the Hightowers were a very, very powerful family.
07:37:36.440
Is this, is it wrong to, is this kind of spoilers?
07:37:41.560
I was going to say, this is, you're talking about the first season, right?
07:38:06.460
There were, like, too many simps for Morgan last show, so I feel like she got to get roasted
07:38:26.620
Brian always brings the most beautiful women on this podcast.
07:39:04.980
You get married to a gay guy, but then you fake his...
07:39:16.200
This is still first season, but I shouldn't spoil it.
07:39:20.400
Now I want to watch it, because I'm invested now.
07:39:24.540
I want to watch the second, but Frankie said no.
07:39:34.940
Do you prefer House of the Dragon or Game of Thrones?
07:39:40.680
Anyways, with that said, unless anyone has any final thoughts, we got to wrap up the show.
07:39:54.800
We're going to raid Woe Grandma, Nick, if you can get that going.
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Game of Thrones was epic until the last two seasons.
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House of Dragon is great, but it all means nothing because of how God ended.
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The same reason you touch up your hair every time you look at the camera is the same reason
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I would like to hear these compliments in the language I can understand.
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Guys, it's been one minute since we last got to Prime.
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We're going to be doing some Twitch exclusive stuff.
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So, guys, if you're watching on YouTube, head on over to Twitch.
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Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you haven't.
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And then we're going to do a raid to Woe Grandma.
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You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
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Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
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Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
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If you can make it to Santa Barbara 07 is in the chat.
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You've never once had a good Australian on the show ever.
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Of all the bad Australians, the twins were the worst.
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When you were going off at the two DeLulu twins, I was like, go off, queen.
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Me and me mate Baza were driving in the ute when some flamin' galah cut us off in some
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We got out and had a bit of a blue or a bit of a dissed up, if you will, but talked it out.
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House is the Dragon is good, but would rather watch whatever kisses.
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Yo, Old Man Marine, thank you for your TTS, man.
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It means the world couldn't do this podcast without you guys.
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I'm going to go ahead and get that going in just a few seconds.
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And then I think we're all good here on YouTube.