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00:04:09.300 without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves but before you do let me just

00:04:15.760 do a little disclaimer guys we have a full house this is our largest our largest uh group ever our

00:04:22.700 largest panel ever 14 total 14 and a half or two-thirds if you can't count andrew or maybe he

00:04:30.200 counts as like three i don't know however you want to frame it um so because of that there's a lot to

00:04:36.240 get through we're going to have to be moving the pace is going to be pretty quick when it comes to

00:04:39.940 the conversation 14 people we what we've been doing since we've you know had issues with cancellations

00:04:45.960 or last minute flakes no shows we overbooked and typically we're we always overbook we usually

00:04:53.580 overbook to 15 with the expectation that within a 24-hour period typically five six seven people

00:05:00.020 are going to cancel flake no show my car broke down my lip filler hasn't healed

00:05:05.000 somebody micro needled didn't you do that and you were going to go on a date but you did some

00:05:14.140 micro needling and your face got all red i knew it um so in any case we've we've heard all the

00:05:20.620 excuses somebody you know there's wars a war broke out once oh my and a girl canceled because of the

00:05:27.260 war uh i don't know so anyways it's very it's very cramped uh there's a lot of people here so the pace

00:05:34.660 is going to be quick but just wanted to uh give you guys a heads up on that so please tell us your name

00:05:41.520 age location occupation and education go ahead uh my name is courtney page nelson i'm ageless i will

00:05:48.800 let that up to the viewers to decide oh boy here just tell us your age come on come on 28 okay uh

00:05:56.080 viewers because she asked what were you going to guess her age is um where are you from san francisco

00:06:02.900 but i live in la okay occupation uh content creator which i'm sure a lot of people say and then i'm a

00:06:09.420 songwriter and an artist and i write top lines for djs sorry top top lines so it's like when you listen

00:06:16.400 to an edm song and you hear vocals and writing that's what i do yeah education any school or anything like

00:06:24.920 that i went to a music academy for one year called lamp in 2022 and other than that didn't graduate

00:06:32.820 high school oh do you have your gd or anything like that nope okay and um you have your certificate

00:06:39.480 from the lamp school though yeah i had my diploma what were you studying there specifically like music

00:06:44.980 production or uh they do music production and songwriting so it's it's a program where it's it's

00:06:51.860 like a music intensive so they have mentors that come in and you get to talk to like record record

00:06:57.160 label execs and yeah okay you sing are you a singer rapper what do you do oh no i'm not a rapper i mean

00:07:04.340 i could rap to like my cats like when i'm feeding them i'll like you know spit a little okay but no

00:07:10.040 all right what what's uh do you have a musician name it's just my name oh just your name yeah say

00:07:16.240 your name courtney paige nelson and what what genre uh my stuff is edm electro pop but i write for

00:07:23.300 other artists so i write all genres what's your hit do you have a hit or a single or anything like

00:07:27.300 that um i had my third label cut come out uh in november on universal records rock and roll

00:07:35.720 berlin very cool all right called happy for you cool awesome thank you should check it out guys if

00:07:40.560 you're interested what about you i am 22 my name is kalia caldwell and i am from calgary alberta

00:07:50.400 canada okay you're canadian do they speak french there or is that the english speaking part um i'm

00:07:57.380 from the english speaking part i've never spoke french before and uh uh occupation i'm a an adult

00:08:06.020 star a dancer and a content creator okay education uh college or anything like that no no okay what

00:08:13.280 about you i'm abby unger i'm 22 i'm from salt lake city utah i work as a master esthetician and i also

00:08:21.320 teach aesthetics and i also do photography and you said 22 right uh college university just trade

00:08:28.940 school trade school okay what trade school uh skin science skin science oh your master esthetician

00:08:36.460 yeah do you focus on anything in particular um lashes skincare medical skincare so do you like

00:08:41.980 makeup are you a mua or whatever i'm a pmu so like i do permanent makeup as well like is that

00:08:48.140 tattooing or yeah just on the face like lips brows freckles do you have any um i did my lips once and

00:08:55.100 that was not fun but that was like three years ago so okay faded and you said you're from utah

00:09:00.980 yeah like born and raised you're up there okay uh you probably this probably annoys you are you

00:09:06.840 mormon nope no never have been religious ever okay salt lake city though right yeah there are a lot of

00:09:12.420 mormons though uh yeah a lot everywhere all right what about you my name is elizabeth i am 27

00:09:19.480 um i am a full-time mom a dancer and a of creator okay um and i'm from phoenix all right from phoenix

00:09:28.440 arizona okay got it okay what about you i'm liberty i'm 23 and i'm from utah and i'm a regional

00:09:37.900 administrator for like a furniture company any college or university nope any college or university

00:09:43.500 for you okay all right and you're a full-time what again for regional administrator for what

00:09:49.960 for a furniture company furniture company specialize in anything or just everything um i do a lot of

00:09:55.960 paperwork i can you know set someone on a mean financing plan but okay i meant i meant more so

00:10:02.580 like the company oh like the actual furniture is it like chairs it's like sofas or just everything

00:10:07.160 it's everything but it's european lines european lines so it's like norwegian did something pop off

00:10:14.660 yeah i accidentally snagged my foot on the cord oh uh yeah there's a mic clip you can just put it

00:10:19.640 you should be able to yeah okay what about you hi my name's tessa i'm from alabama i'm 25

00:10:25.960 um i work as an engineer and waitress at a bowling alley um and i have an engineering math degree

00:10:32.780 uh bachelors of science art bachelor mechanical engineering but i do software now okay and um

00:10:39.100 what what sort of engineering do you because that's a that's a kind of a bizarre combo right

00:10:44.880 you're an engineer plus you work at a bowling alley yeah i work as a server at a bowling alley

00:10:49.560 i make more money as a server than i do as an engineer so what what sort of engineering do you do

00:10:54.780 software software engineering okay but you have a degree in mechanical engineering you do software

00:11:02.040 engineering yeah so i study mechanical engineering and math and then i got a software job after

00:11:07.280 college so that's just what i've been doing in industry uh what sort of software is it controls

00:11:12.700 um no right now it's just like data engineering i code in a lot of java um just like stored data so

00:11:21.560 okay so actual computer software then yeah oh gotcha thank you got it and uh what university did

00:11:28.340 you go to i went to vanderbilt on scholarship in nashville vanderbilt is that an ivy league or no

00:11:34.800 it's in the wrong area it's yeah because the ivy leagues are all up there and it's a southern

00:11:40.720 the ivs are like east coast yeah okay but it's a it's a fairly prestigious university isn't it it's okay

00:11:47.860 yeah and so remind me you got your degree in it was mechanical engineering okay and you also uh you

00:11:55.160 also have a gambling and a smoking addiction is that i was waiting i was waiting for you to i was

00:12:04.340 waiting for you to offer that up tessa uh so do you do you or is it just like i know you do the

00:12:10.320 content stuff but is it actually uh are you actually a gambling addict i'm working on i i i just i feel

00:12:17.660 like i could win the lottery okay scratch cards and you do what is it the i do scratch cards i'll do

00:12:23.600 like slot machines i'll do like casino blackjack and i'll buy lottery tickets okay and you do smoke

00:12:29.440 cigarettes i'm working on it are you gonna be jonesing during the show or i don't know what

00:12:35.340 that means jonesing it's like when you're you're you have an urge basically yeah but i'll be okay

00:12:40.140 because i think it's banned is it are you allowed to smoke cigarettes in california uh yeah yeah not

00:12:45.880 indoors i just don't see people doing it here what what's your go-to i do it there i do it there

00:12:53.520 all the time okay take his advice andrew light up a cigarette for our esteemed vanderbilt guest here

00:13:00.140 with her can i ask something is it sure i guess why why don't you just get a job at a casino because

00:13:07.400 if you like cigarettes and gambling that's perfect i like the variety there's a lot of nuance there

00:13:13.920 yeah you know both what what's your go-to cigarette brand it's been camel crushes but i'm trying to

00:13:20.360 switch to marlboro reds because camel crushes are very addictive and they're banned here andrew what's

00:13:25.220 your go-to cigarette oh there you go i have the same pack in my purse right now oh shit there you

00:13:34.440 go you guys got something in common already okay cool and you said you're from alabama yes sir but uh

00:13:40.100 and you still live there no i live in denver now that you live in denver yeah okay got it and oh uh

00:13:45.860 one request i saw a tiktok you were on a date with a guy you did a weird hand gesture i was really hoping

00:13:52.040 you would you would do that during your introduction but can we get a little are you talking about when

00:13:56.240 i did like this like what are you talking about there's you had a tiktok where uh you did some

00:14:03.220 weird oh i know what you're talking about you're on a date and the guy was like what's wrong with you

00:14:07.400 yeah yeah okay okay okay because i was like i didn't know when i was gonna drink it so i was like

00:14:11.560 i don't know what i'm gonna drink right now and if you get it you get it if you don't you don't

00:14:16.640 it didn't land it didn't land it was high risk high reward i'm a gambler all right cool

00:14:21.300 for the entire show you have to do interesting hand gestures while you're speaking okay what

00:14:26.380 about you um i'm 23 i'm from oakdale okay here in california and um i work as like a medical

00:14:35.560 assistant at a liver clinic and um yeah uh name andrea andrea and education yeah i got my ba in

00:14:45.040 psychology ba in psychology all right cool what about you hi my name is joy i'm 42

00:14:51.260 and i'm from houston texas and um business manager for a doctor and real estate investing part-time

00:15:00.600 and um education ged okay all right what about you hi my name is dahlia i am currently in college for

00:15:09.160 accounting and i am an actress and model uh age 23 where are you from los angeles and i live in los

00:15:17.460 angeles all right and sorry did you say like education or anything did you oh yeah i said

00:15:22.480 i'm in college for accounting you're currently in college are you a junior or senior junior

00:15:26.800 junior all right one more year or i guess well year and a half maybe what about you uh my name is

00:15:32.100 nicole i'm from vancouver bc i am a project coordinator in the electrical industry i'm also a

00:15:38.920 freelance makeup artist and a mother of two age 36 36 uh any college university i have a diploma in

00:15:46.860 freelance makeup and a certificate in business administration got it okay all right and sorry

00:15:52.580 from vancouver like 30 minutes outside of vancouver and quirk coquitlam would be a precise location

00:15:58.760 all right what about you uh hello my name is ashley i am 21 years old and i'm from pennsylvania

00:16:07.700 i am a general manager for an automotive business we do all kinds of cool race cars and stuff um and i

00:16:15.400 study business administration okay and wait were you in the military no no my boyfriend was okay i might

00:16:22.100 have got my wires crossed on that but and you you you're in the automotive industry yes yeah heavily

00:16:27.780 okay okay very cool what about you hi i'm natalie tasha thompson um i'm 26 i'm originally from los

00:16:35.220 angeles but i now live in dallas um and i am the creative director at a marriage and relationship

00:16:41.740 health non-profit called xo um so we're basically just on mission to help increase the marriage rate

00:16:48.480 and decrease the divorce rate and increase two-parent households um and then education i went to chapman

00:16:54.420 university for a bachelor's degree in public relations and advertising all right welcome what about you

00:17:01.220 my name is paula i'm from new jersey i just turned 40 and i teach salsa classes and host salsa nights at

00:17:08.640 the jersey shore at the jersey shore okay uh any education uh stockton university um bachelor of visual

00:17:16.820 communications graphic design got it okay all right uh well before you dive in yeah just make a very quick

00:17:25.060 observation that women who have three names they say their name as three names i always find them

00:17:33.840 nefarious and untrustworthy for no particularly good reason that i can put my finger on and there's

00:17:39.160 several women at the table it's just courtney and i said who have said their name instead of the first

00:17:44.360 and last as three names just saying just so that is my first name though natalie tasha natalie tasha

00:17:51.220 yeah my mom liked the name that's worse that's worse okay listen listen listen andrew my mom liked the

00:17:57.200 name natasha until she realized that it was a satan backwards so she decided to make it hard instead

00:18:03.880 well what write out right out natasha and it's ass satan backwards so she decided to extend it and

00:18:12.160 make kindergarten hard so here i am so she tricked the devil with your name correct i just use my full

00:18:19.720 name because it's easier for google search in my career and plus there's a porn star named courtney

00:18:24.040 nelson and i don't want to get confused so you know fair can i add in something sure um i actually

00:18:29.940 do go by jade jacks that is what i go by i just wanted to interject that you wanted to join the

00:18:36.640 three names no uh just because i said i said the incorrect name when i introduced myself oh i forgot

00:18:43.680 what did you say calia oh okay so wait jade is my middle name and what i go by so you prefer jade in

00:18:50.600 the industry yes word okay we have a chat coming through amelia eve has donated 200 oh my they're

00:18:57.720 already at it brian we all want to know how fishy and what the fuck also to chair one a lady sat in

00:19:05.060 your chair recently that had sex more than she would shower anyway i'm sure it's clean maybe

00:19:11.100 uh he's referring to uh ayla don't worry uh we we actually burned the chair that she was sitting in

00:19:20.120 so you're good okay we burned it and then we had emergency unfortunately the smoke did get in the

00:19:27.160 atmosphere yeah that's true is that what i'm smelling probably probably um all right uh oh andrew you

00:19:36.440 want to intro yourself my caucasian go ahead yeah my name is andrew wilson not no three c no three names

00:19:44.380 right my name is andrew wilson i'm the host of the crucible it's a popular entertainment channel

00:19:48.860 on youtube i also run another channel called not one step back with jake rattlesnake which

00:19:54.200 recently premiered hope to see everybody over there i'm a political analyst a political satirist

00:19:59.700 and i have conversations like this with people all over the world when it comes to everything from

00:20:04.260 the political to dating to everything in between and i'm happy all of you are here tonight we can have

00:20:08.940 this conversation all right welcome except for those of you with three three names except the

00:20:13.660 three names except the three names come on you have a middle name there's no way you don't

00:20:20.140 um well i mean yeah that's true i do but here i'll give you i'll give you some good andrew wilson lore

00:20:25.500 none of my kids do wait none your kids have middle names yeah neither does my dad so i wanted to keep

00:20:33.640 that tradition alive by not giving my kids middle names either wow nice so we're gonna go around the

00:20:39.760 table once more what is your current relationship status if you're single how long have you been

00:20:45.280 single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead okay uh relationship status is

00:20:52.680 non-existent i feel like i am on pluto and all the men are on earth um i've been single and celibate for

00:21:02.320 a year and seven months and my longest relationship is over two years okay so you've been so how did

00:21:11.280 you describe it super single or what did you say non-existent or non-existent yeah okay like i

00:21:18.000 haven't been on a date i haven't given anybody i just i'm so focused on my career and me and building

00:21:24.560 my life that i don't want anything to like penetrate that and infiltrate like yeah i realized what i said

00:21:31.800 hence the celibate part no i'm kidding longest relationship again you said it was three years

00:21:37.480 no a little over two oh two years yeah all right and you've been single for a year and seven months

00:21:43.520 well you've been celibate for a year and seven months and single for a year and seven months okay

00:21:47.260 actually celibate though 100 like not even third base not even kissing not no kissing wow not whoa i

00:21:54.760 know i know it's weird i know all right what's your orientation straight by uh straight straight

00:21:59.960 okay have you ever dated women not dated sneaky link

00:22:07.080 sneaky link maybe i don't know i don't what is sneaky link

00:22:12.600 like i've kissed girls like a situation ship you know i've kissed it's a it's a thing on the down low

00:22:18.760 you know oh the dl got it um the dl um no i'm i'm just i'm just here just here okay i'm just here

00:22:28.440 what about you i am very single um very single okay i just got out of my relationship in december

00:22:35.560 um so what three months two not two months yeah like two and a half okay longest relationship three

00:22:42.520 years is that the one that ended in december no that one was a year okay uh who broke up with who in the

00:22:48.360 most recent relationship i did who broke up with who in the three-year relationship i did okay and

00:22:54.280 you've been single for two two and a half months yeah correct uh have you had a rebound oh absolutely

00:23:01.320 oh absolutely okay i was waiting for the not but okay so absolutely uh are you currently involved with

00:23:08.520 the guy right now um not involved no i don't have any interest um in pursuing any romantic

00:23:14.440 relationships anytime soon what about sexual relationships yeah i'm i'm an adult star so

00:23:20.040 that's kind of you do traditional traditional adult content or yeah i do of and mainstream mainstream

00:23:26.200 stuff okay um and so you do bg content for both like of and mainstream stuff mainstream productions

00:23:34.040 girl girl okay bg etc okay how long you've been involved in the industry um about two and a half years

00:23:42.200 overall i started of first and i just got into mainstream about a year ago but my previous

00:23:49.800 relationship had interrupted that so i kind of disappeared for a little while and you know i'm

00:23:53.720 back to it uh and you so you started of in when you're 19 correct 19 that's windy out there um okay

00:24:02.200 got it and uh do you have a roster currently of like are you dating because like you're shooting scenes

00:24:08.920 right but i mean are you when it comes to outside of work are you seeing somebody no not really outside

00:24:18.600 of work okay so you're civilian you're you're celibate in a civilian capacity basically but you're

00:24:30.040 fucking men on camera for for money base okay got it okay okay so you're you're half celibate well the

00:24:37.640 the problem is like um civilians like jeopardize you know when you're when you're just

00:24:45.080 interacting with people who are also tested and 100 clean then there's no chance that it

00:24:49.800 messes with anything for me because it can jeopardize my work okay what about you

00:24:54.360 i'm single for a year my longest relationship was about four years and that happened about a year

00:25:01.720 ago okay so you've been single for a year your longest relationship you said was four years yeah

00:25:07.960 about four years four years is that sorry was that the one that ended a year ago yeah okay and who

00:25:14.040 broke up with who i broke up with him okay why um i would like to say we fell out of love um we lived

00:25:22.280 together for a couple years so i feel like you kind of really get to know somebody and i think i

00:25:27.160 didn't like who i was with him and he didn't like who he was with me was he in the military he was yeah

00:25:32.040 okay what branch army reserves army reserve okay when you say you didn't like who you became when you

00:25:39.000 were with him what did you dislike about you i feel like i wasn't being really nice to him towards

00:25:46.280 the end i think he kind of made me like angry because i didn't feel loved and i was angry about

00:25:53.160 it and so was he not nice to you also yeah not really in times okay so but you ended the relationship

00:26:00.680 yeah was he was he like oh okay i saw it coming or was he upset it was like mutual at first and then i

00:26:08.760 went back for a couple days and then i realized i still didn't want to do it and i wish it could have

00:26:14.200 ended civil but he to my best words i can put it is he did kind of go a little manic on me was he

00:26:20.600 bipolar his father was but i don't know i maybe in ways sure now you've been single for one year um

00:26:28.920 have you had rebounds yeah tell us about that um i think when i first was single i've never really

00:26:37.640 like had enough time to like date a lot of people so i kind of serial dated and went on probably like

00:26:44.680 three dates a week three three dates a week yeah for how long probably a couple months couple months

00:26:50.440 yeah because i think in your pre-show notes you said something about like you were dating 30 guys

00:26:54.040 at the same time and not like at the same time but it was like if you think like three a week and

00:26:58.920 then i maybe see them i only saw most of them like once and then i was like hey that was fun experience

00:27:04.440 but bye i can't even get one did you have a spreadsheet no you're just really quick with

00:27:10.440 it i work with clients so you know i'm really good at booking okay so you she had a yeah the

00:27:16.840 software she's analytical yeah but you know i will say i told all of them i wasn't really looking

00:27:21.720 for something serious it was kind of more for fun sure are you currently involved with somebody no

00:27:26.840 nobody sneaky link maybe i think what was yeah i guess when i say involved i don't necessarily mean

00:27:32.680 like relationship more so like somebody who you could be casually seeing yeah i say casually

00:27:38.120 is there more than one you're like you have a roster uh just one just one yeah okay how long you've

00:27:44.520 been not seeing or seeing this one guy um i don't know like maybe two months two months okay yeah does

00:27:53.160 he want a relationship no you don't want and you don't want it either correct i mean i'm not against

00:27:58.520 it but i can tell he doesn't want one okay so you're just keeping it casual for now yeah okay what

00:28:03.080 about you i am single the longest relationship i have had was five years how long have you been

00:28:11.320 single sorry um going on like nine ten months was that the five-year relationship that ended ten months

00:28:18.200 ago no okay how long was or how long was the most recent relationship um two years who broke up with

00:28:24.680 who i did and then the five-year relationship who broke up with who i did okay and you have

00:28:31.640 one kid two kids how many kids do you have four kids four kids all the same father or different

00:28:35.800 fathers different fathers for all four yes what is that like hard to manage at times like do you find

00:28:44.760 that difficult um so the okay it's embarrassing so the first one um we don't really communicate he's not

00:28:53.880 really around um and then the third one there is absolutely no contact um my daughter's dad is

00:29:00.440 super involved we co-parent great and then the last relationship uh we co-parent great too so i

00:29:06.360 honestly only have to deal with two of them so two of the fathers are not really in the picture

00:29:11.800 uh two two are yeah and can you break it down like the oldest second third fourth like so who's in

00:29:19.720 the picture who's not so my eight-year-old's dad is not and then my five-year-old daughter's her dad

00:29:25.320 is and then my two-year-old is not and then my one-year-old is okay do you want more kids or my

00:29:31.720 tubes are tied tubes are tied yeah i was supposed to have them tied after my daughter ah okay how uh

00:29:38.920 how old did you say you were i'm 27

00:29:44.520 so you had your first kid at like 18 yeah okay got it huh um

00:29:54.120 so how's that been

00:29:56.840 that's been good i mean yeah um i'm a single mom of four three of my kids have autism three three of

00:30:02.680 um diagnosed and then my daughter has like medical issues on top of that sorry to hear that so and i

00:30:09.960 like homeschool and homeschool okay it's a lot yeah um but you're doing it i'm trying she's she's

00:30:17.960 doing it do they uh hey i'm sorry go ahead friend oh no were you gonna ask about child support andrew

00:30:25.240 no i was actually just gonna just clarify and you pay your bills with of and uh stripping essentially

00:30:31.480 yeah was uh of i'm not as active on of as i should be um financially like i should be um i just

00:30:39.480 recently started dancing which has been paying my bills um one of the kids's dad the oldest he's on

00:30:45.080 child support when he chooses to be um and then the baby's dad helps me a lot so wait are all of them

00:30:53.640 paying child support no just one of them yeah only one of them are on child support i haven't put the

00:30:58.920 the rest of them on it oh if my thing is like if you're active in the kids life then yeah there's

00:31:05.960 no need for it okay got it okay um i'm curious about some of your tattoos unless andrew did you have

00:31:12.280 another question on on anything or no go ahead okay uh what is this tattoo on your arm cry baby 98

00:31:19.240 yeah uh so my birth year and then cry baby is little peep little what little peep the wrapper

00:31:25.240 little little peep yeah oh i know who that is yeah okay cool um and i noticed you have a face tattoo

00:31:32.760 here is that a cross yeah i have three oh the spider web and then was that a heart that was a heart i had

00:31:39.080 a dermal inside the heart i see anybody else have any face tattoos that i should be aware of

00:31:44.520 no but i got a harry potter tattoo oh wow we got we got a lot of tattoos here at the table um

00:31:51.400 some interesting ones uh maybe i need a chronicle i'm gonna chronicle all the uh tattoos do you have

00:31:58.200 tattoos no um is it so just out of uh curiosity in the kind of mixed family that you have do you have

00:32:06.280 children who are interracial those who aren't so three of my kids are half hispanic okay gotcha are

00:32:15.000 you latina okay um half hispan half hispanic okay and the other one is white white okay all right okay

00:32:25.320 um are you uh in terms of like dating though are you do you have time to date for so when i first so

00:32:35.000 when i moved out um of my ex's house the he would take so my daughter's dad would take the older two

00:32:42.280 and then he would take the babies so i didn't have anything to do so i was seeing someone for like a

00:32:47.400 few months kind of um but realistically no like i have zero time to even talk to anyone a little closer

00:32:54.840 um okay and uh sweet that's cool all right what about you i'm single um how long about well just

00:33:09.640 a little over a year longest relationship almost four years is that the one that ended a year ago

00:33:15.000 yes who broke up with who it was kind of mutual it was mutual so you both texted each other at the same

00:33:21.480 time we need to talk we actually looked each other in the face and screamed for a good five

00:33:26.600 minutes and then we were like okay maybe maybe we don't make it out there you guys screamed what

00:33:31.560 were you guys screaming about um god what was that argument about i think maybe like dishes or

00:33:36.840 something stupid stupid was that would you describe it as a toxic relationship not always but maybe

00:33:45.000 sometimes sometimes okay um and was it a clean break yes okay clean break no going back all right

00:33:54.520 have you been dating in this past year i've dabbled you've dabbled i've dabbled around is there is

00:34:00.280 there a like a utah-based dating app like mormon no but there should be no i swear well there's christian

00:34:06.840 mingle but is there there should be a non-mormon mingle i swear you'll be like engaged in a couple

00:34:12.200 months super quick okay in a flight okay and uh are you currently uh is there a guy in the picture

00:34:18.600 in any capacity currently well sure a casual one what's the nature of the casual relationship

00:34:34.920 you guys go there's no you guys you're banging that's the nature of it no maybe they're just

00:34:40.360 skipping through fields yeah i don't know we watch family guy together and we hang out nice it's

00:34:49.320 romantic it's cute all right how long have you been uh i guess involved with him actually kind of a

00:34:57.160 while maybe like five months five months okay do you want do you guys say you love each other no

00:35:03.640 you're not boyfriend girlfriend no okay how often do you see each other maybe like every two weeks

00:35:08.840 usually is it long distance kind of or no he lives like 30 minutes away it's like medium distance

00:35:14.520 relationship it's just medium yeah medium distance medium distance that's you know yeah

00:35:20.440 convenience is kind of important low maintenance high payoff so you know okay do you want more

00:35:27.320 maybe maybe ask me in like a couple more months i'm being a really slow are you seeing other people

00:35:32.920 no is he seeing other girls i have no idea you don't know somebody ask him but you guys haven't

00:35:37.560 had that conversation right no isn't that so important to like make sure that you're like

00:35:42.120 safe can you scoot well sorry yes the safety yes actually is a big one so i'm telling you he's not

00:35:50.840 he's not the friend your friend is saying i've told her this so many times he is infatuated with her

00:35:56.280 he's oh he's infatuated with her i think so i think he cares about her a lot somebody mute her

00:36:01.640 mic in the chat she just won't admit it it's just oh but you said you you say that but you also think

00:36:08.040 he's with other women too no no i don't think oh you don't think he is i don't think he is at all

00:36:12.760 okay not to say he can't i just think that he does like her and have you guys had a conversation like

00:36:17.960 what is this no i'm a little wishy-washy about having a conversation because i'm just so keen on

00:36:26.200 being single and like doing my thing you've been seeing him for five months right yeah when you say

00:36:32.120 doing your thing what do you mean well just like i don't know keeping your options open in case

00:36:36.680 something better comes along not that at all you know so what do you mean then i enjoy going out and

00:36:42.280 like dancing or just doing whatnot on the streets um not sexually but what not on the street what was

00:36:49.960 it what do you mean what not on this i don't know like sitting on the curb eating a hot dog at like

00:36:54.840 2 30. you can find things to do out there what are you doing on the mean street

00:37:03.240 do you have a conversation with this guy about your relationship status no just the point is i

00:37:08.600 don't want to have to explain to somebody right now what i'm doing that sure sounds like you're

00:37:14.200 keeping your options open in case just in case something else i haven't spoken or like even gone

00:37:20.760 on the date with another man since we've been talking i just am not that interested you've been

00:37:24.360 seeing him for five months yeah sorry go ahead i didn't mean to interrupt no it's okay i'm just not

00:37:28.200 that interested in like exploring options right now but i like him okay so wait for the five months

00:37:34.120 you've been seeing him have there been any other guys in the picture i swear to god no no i'm gonna

00:37:41.720 look at her every time i'm so real i've honestly not to like talk crap but i've kind of given her

00:37:47.240 shit i'm like well you haven't had that conversation and you're keeping it just to him but she we've had

00:37:52.840 this conversation so many times and i'm like you should live up your single life not like no offense

00:37:57.000 to him i'm just like either have that conversation or just keep living your life have you been uh dancing

00:38:02.360 with other guys in the streets no no you just dance by yourself in the streets i'm there while

00:38:11.320 eating hot dogs i'm there all right as as one does yeah okay uh well what about you um i'm single i've

00:38:20.760 been single for the last three years okay my longest relationship was a year and a half in college

00:38:26.760 and is that the one that ended three years ago yeah yeah okay um who broke up with who i broke up

00:38:35.560 with him why is that i think he just didn't think i was very cool and he he asked another girl on a

00:38:42.760 date while we were dating yeah a year and a half yeah wait he asked her out or did he sleep with her

00:38:50.520 he asked her out because he was in greek life and i wasn't um and he just didn't feel comfortable

00:38:56.280 putting um i guess it didn't want me to be around his greek life friends they were all like rich

00:39:01.960 people and i just wasn't and so he asked another girl to go on his like fraternity formal stuff with

00:39:08.280 him instead of okay so it's like a specific event yeah like asking her to be his date to the event

00:39:15.080 yeah and you guys were dating for a year and a half yeah okay not great uh and but did he tell you

00:39:22.040 like hey btw i'm yeah so he told me i told him i was like i'm really grateful that you've never

00:39:28.520 given me a reason to like be insecure about anything and i feel so secure in us and then

00:39:33.240 he said well here's something and then he told me and then i broke up with him wait so had he already

00:39:40.040 tooken her on the date no he just he told me the night before and he had already asked her

00:39:44.120 oh yeah it's fine it'd be like that sometimes i mean at least he told you wait wait wait tooken

00:39:50.600 brian on a date brian wait what brian wait what did i say you said took in her on a date took him

00:39:58.200 and he already took in her on a date taken taken sounds like a pasta dude i don't know

00:40:03.960 it's i'm introducing it into the lexicon okay i'm hijacking the english language it's now a word

00:40:09.880 uh yeah uh by the way women or woman um what were you guys like officially together yeah we've been

00:40:18.920 dating yeah weird yeah you had that title yeah like had he asked you to be his girlfriend yeah

00:40:25.240 yeah we had been dating for a year and a half we went out for a few months and then we started

00:40:28.680 dating officially and then after like a year and a half when we were about to graduate that happened

00:40:33.880 it's fine it'd be like that but yeah have a date did you swear off fraternity men after

00:40:38.360 yes so you've been single for three years yeah have there been have you had anything short term

00:40:43.960 in that time maybe a couple months or nothing yeah i've gone out with guys for a couple months

00:40:48.360 and i i should go on more dates but i got i have two jobs and i'm a homebody and so i don't i should

00:40:54.600 go out more i don't want to die alone so there's always that yeah dying alone thing uh is there a guy

00:41:03.160 in the picture currently in any capacity no no i nothing i would i need to be going on more dates

00:41:09.400 i just don't have that much time so busy busy um yeah did you start smoking after the

00:41:17.960 no i still didn't smoke for like two years after that but i started smoking last summer

00:41:22.760 oh okay because i was in west virginia and everyone smokes there oh wow so you went in

00:41:27.720 rome you got to how many pat or how many uh cigarettes do you smoke per day typically

00:41:32.840 well i'm trying to quit now and just to hubba bubba instead so i i probably average one a day

00:41:39.160 but when i'm working at the bowling alley i smoke more during my shift because everyone smokes there

00:41:43.640 it's a it's a communal thing it doesn't count it's a shared cig okay bowling alley there you go

00:41:48.360 when you say hubba bubba do you mean into the mic into the mic oh i'm sorry into the mic sorry when

00:41:52.840 you say hubba bubba do you mean like the actual gum yeah the bubble gum the tape bubble gum it's

00:41:57.240 really good anytime i want to smoke a cig i just pull fair do a line a hubba bubba so all right there

00:42:03.400 you go what about you no i never was in a relationship before so you're single yeah okay never been in a

00:42:11.800 relationship no uh have you you've been with a guy maybe dated a guy yeah i've dated before what's

00:42:18.680 the longest period of time you've seen a guy maybe like six months six months seven months okay did you

00:42:28.040 call him boyfriend or no no were you guys exclusive um for a little bit a little bit yeah and then you

00:42:37.880 cheated on him no i never cheated okay no so uh you've been when was that the six month thing like

00:42:46.680 four years ago so you were 19 and you're yeah 23 i was 19 when uh are there any guys in the picture

00:42:54.040 currently no is there a guy in the picture currently no nothing no yeah i don't date i don't like to

00:43:01.080 date you don't date what do you do i just mind my business you mind your business yeah you live in

00:43:06.600 los angeles though right yeah yeah and are you involved in nightlife at all like do you go out party

00:43:12.120 club um yeah i'll go out with my friends and stuff but i like i don't go to meet guys because i don't

00:43:16.600 know i just don't look i don't look you don't go for that reason but you invariably do meet men

00:43:21.640 right sometimes they don't come up to you and flirt ask for your number well i mean like yeah but

00:43:27.880 sometimes they turn them down sure of course i don't just like talk to every guy have you ever been

00:43:32.280 on the dating app no never been on a dating app well never either no okay uh you're active on social

00:43:38.760 media do men slide into your dms yeah they do how maybe a couple times a day or um yeah i feel like

00:43:46.200 there's some somebody every day i guess somebody every day okay um when is the last time you hung

00:43:51.720 out with a man in either a romantic or sexual context the last time i don't know maybe like

00:43:59.480 over a week ago a week ago okay and was that first date second date third date um hang out like i knew them

00:44:08.760 from prison where did you meet um i met them i actually met them at the club at the club yeah

00:44:16.760 okay yeah but i don't talk to them anymore why is that i don't know i just i don't want to like

00:44:24.920 talk to someone consistently anymore why is that or like wait for a text i don't like that like you

00:44:29.320 don't like to wait like i have to wait for a text or something i don't know i just don't want to like

00:44:32.600 be waiting so what what time of day would he typically text you like just throughout the day

00:44:39.560 throughout the day yeah but you'd be waiting well like i don't know i just never want to like think

00:44:44.600 about oh like have they texted me yet or something you know like i just i don't know and it's like

00:44:49.560 it's a lot of effort to like really text back every day yeah like sometimes i just like want to

00:44:55.400 literally not talk to anybody yeah okay um so never had a boyfriend yeah i never really had a

00:45:03.560 boyfriend uh do you want a boyfriend or you're just maybe later you're single yeah i feel like

00:45:08.600 i don't know i'm young i just want to be single focus on myself yeah okay yeah all right what about

00:45:14.040 you uh married 23 years all right uh wow i was 18 when i got married good for you 18 when you got

00:45:25.400 married yeah wow okay uh did you date before him or no not really so you guys were high school you

00:45:32.280 were dating in high school and then you got married two years so i was 16 when i met him and then married

00:45:37.400 at 18. okay wow are you still married yeah love is real and it's actually better it's gotten better

00:45:45.320 as we've gone on that's awesome awesome that gives me hope all right there you go then and uh

00:45:54.040 did you date anybody before him is there an age gap there with your husband no just he's one year

00:45:58.840 older than me okay he's 43 okay um not really no didn't really date okay before that all right so

00:46:08.520 he's the only guy you've been with pretty much yep okay all right what about you um i mean i just got

00:46:15.080 out of a relationship like an actual relationship i only had one it was eight months and i got out of

00:46:19.880 it in november so like four months ago yeah and it was eight months and that's your longest yeah that's

00:46:27.000 my longest yeah and only relationship relationship who broke up with who i broke up with him why's

00:46:33.000 that um so i mean i do like um acting so like i do like live streams and music videos and stuff like

00:46:39.160 that so he was getting to a point where every time i would go to set like he would kind of think that

00:46:43.560 i'm talking to somebody else and i would literally give him proof because we were long distance so i

00:46:48.360 would like literally send him pictures send him texts of what i'm doing where i'm at what time like

00:46:53.480 i'm gonna be there like it was exhausting and i felt like there was not enough like trust for him

00:46:58.920 to me but i gave him 100 trust and i feel like that also just came off as an insecurity for him

00:47:04.920 because i found out later that a girl that he told me was just his friend he was like literally dating

00:47:09.640 over there so he was like projecting like that i'm doing something over here when he was actually

00:47:15.160 doing something over there that makes sense yeah i see okay and uh you said you do these streams right

00:47:23.320 yeah so you've done stuff with like who are some of the people you've worked with i guess i've worked

00:47:27.560 with them kyson at plaque boy max um jay sinko like you know just who the fuck is that guy yeah that's

00:47:35.400 real yeah i feel like um you said snoop dog yeah zavi tight tyga yeah alicia keys yes okay yeah have

00:47:44.280 you did you date kai no i didn't date kyson at no okay no all right that's cool um and are you

00:47:52.920 currently what is there a rebound are you currently seeing somebody it wasn't a rebound no i like gave

00:47:57.000 myself like time to heal um i did meet this uh guy on set um like way later um like i think maybe

00:48:04.840 like three months later after i broke up um and him and i like spent valentine's day together and

00:48:11.160 then now it's just um i don't know i don't know okay yeah all right what wait hold on you spent

00:48:19.640 valentine's together yeah literally two weeks ago have you heard from him since i have heard from him

00:48:24.360 but he's been mad at me because of the streams and streams are scripted like a lot of people don't

00:48:28.680 realize they're scripted so he would get mad whenever it would be like because like a lot of the

00:48:32.840 streamers that i do uh do videos with like they're his favorite so he gets mad that i'm on it with

00:48:37.640 his favorite that's what i'm guessing okay that's weird because now it's different now that i'm on

00:48:42.520 them so yeah all right uh what about you uh i am married and my longest relationship is my current

00:48:49.480 marriage and we've been together for 10 years and previous to that i was with my high school sweetheart

00:48:54.760 for 10 years as well wow but there was breaks wait i'm sorry how long have you been married again

00:49:00.920 10 years 10 years well together 10 years married eight together for two before that i see okay

00:49:07.240 together total for 10 okay and that that's your longest relationship right right but my high school

00:49:12.760 sweetheart we were we were together for 10 years as well what was the time in between the two eight

00:49:20.280 months eight months right so you were you dated a guy that you'd met in high school for 10 years you

00:49:27.000 break up or you guys break up and then eight months later you now find your you're now husband that's

00:49:31.800 correct yeah but the the high school sweetheart uh there was lots of breaks in between like oh you

00:49:36.840 were on and off again we were broken up for eight months and uh were you did you see any other guys in

00:49:41.880 that period i did okay all right and then what about the eight month break when you guys finally

00:49:48.440 broke no between between my high school sweetheart and my husband there was no one else okay just my

00:49:54.200 husband all right cool uh what about you um my i'm currently taken wait wait one one second just real

00:50:02.760 quick are both of your kids with your husband no so i have a 13 year old son that is with my uh

00:50:10.840 high school sweetheart and i have a two-year-old daughter with my husband

00:50:13.560 so two kids yes okay what about you uh currently in a relationship um we've been together for nine

00:50:21.960 almost 10 months now um and he is my longest relationship you said 10 months 10 yeah just

00:50:27.320 about and that's your longest it is yeah is it your only relationship or no i've had others before but

00:50:32.680 they were kind of like the typical teenage toxic don't really know what love is i think he's my first

00:50:38.680 serious um more serious healthy relationship sure okay what about you um i'm currently in a relationship

00:50:45.800 we've been together on and off for about two and a half years um but we just finished premarital

00:50:50.920 counseling um so we are looking at rings next weekend so probably engaged here in the next couple of

00:50:57.560 months which is exciting oh congrats no christian non-denominational why did you do pre-marriage

00:51:04.200 counseling um it's offered at our church so it's for either couples that are engaged or seriously

00:51:09.240 dating um so just trying to make sure all of our ducks in our are in a row neither him and i have

00:51:15.240 really been in a serious relationship before so um we're also doing this for the first time without

00:51:20.520 having sex which is crazy so every relationship prior to this has been sexual in nature for both of

00:51:26.600 us um so celibate for over two and a half years so which is yeah it's very it's very typical for uh

00:51:34.360 pre-marriage counseling for um for catholics for orthodox don't see that very much for non-denominational

00:51:42.280 so that's i'm in the bible belt so i live in dallas it's kind of uh i go to a big uh church out there

00:51:47.880 that offers it so we tried it we like it so we finished uh our last one is tomorrow i won't be there but he

00:51:54.920 will be so it was eight weeks which is pretty cool i'm a christian and i did the same thing with my

00:51:59.960 husband as well it was eight weeks of premarital counseling and it was actually really beneficial

00:52:03.560 i would recommend it yeah no i'm glad i did it i mean obviously with the divorce rate being what it

00:52:07.880 is today if we can kind of like talk through things that people don't typically talk through before they

00:52:12.520 get engaged or married um i'd much rather have it on this side of marriage than on the other side of

00:52:17.560 marriage okay and uh you guys have been together how long now uh on and off for two and a half years

00:52:24.760 two and a half okay got it all right what about you back there uh i'm single uh longest relationship

00:52:31.800 was a year and a half uh last relationship was maybe three years ago but it was short maybe three months

00:52:39.240 and you said longest relationship a year and a half yes and the most recent one was like three months

00:52:44.280 three years three years ago yeah who broke up with who i broke up with him the one and a half

00:52:49.240 year relationship who broke up with who i think i think i ended it okay ever married never married no

00:52:55.800 kids no kids uh longest relationship in a year and a half have you had multiple like relationships

00:53:02.920 around that length like one year no ever after that i after that one year and a half relationship that

00:53:11.080 was in my early 20s and then i went after dancing i wanted to learn how to dance i wanted to live in

00:53:16.040 another state i moved to florida um came home pursued dancing more in north jersey i wanted to live in

00:53:24.520 north jersey so i did that so i was just doing my thing and um i didn't have any long-term relationships

00:53:30.360 since then mm-hmm so what when you say dancing what salsa latin dancing i did ball where i started

00:53:39.960 out with ballroom but i always want to learn salsa i see yeah okay and um the 1.5 year relationship was

00:53:48.040 one oh gosh i was like 22 so i don't know was that 18 years ago and you're 40 now yes okay do you want

00:53:57.960 to get married i do you want long-term why imagine you want a long-term relationship do you want kids

00:54:04.440 um excuse me i'm not hell-bent on kids but i think i do want a family one or two tops okay and um why

00:54:14.920 i guess uh i mean it sounds sounds like you were busy with dancing and other pursuits um like

00:54:22.920 i still dated though you still did i still dated and i was still open to finding someone i just never

00:54:29.320 found anyone even close to being the right person like i just did not come across that at all and i

00:54:35.720 didn't want to be held back i i knew my first two relationships were were a year and then a year and

00:54:41.960 a half after that so it was like back to back and i was only 21 and i just knew they were going to stay

00:54:47.560 in my hometown forever and i didn't want to do that i wanted to leave and live my life and i just knew

00:54:54.680 that they were going to hold me back so do you do you uh feel as if you would have liked to have given

00:55:04.920 more time to like finding a relationship when you were younger no i mean i like i said i was always open

00:55:12.280 to it and i was i was dating like i was i was looking for the right person it just didn't happen

00:55:19.000 okay yeah all right we have a message here from metro matt oh and then we have this metro

00:55:24.760 matt donated 200 thank you metro matt w marriage w having kids l 304 activity also if you have relations

00:55:34.120 on camera you aren't celibate you're actually a who get your life together before it's too late

00:55:40.200 ladies oh there you go you want to i don't know who this who's this directed to is it you i don't

00:55:46.920 know um thank you metro matt for the tts yo rath thank you for the gift of 20 subs appreciate

00:55:55.480 it man thank you thank you thank you all right uh that's everybody's relationship status so you

00:56:01.640 didn't give yours oh oh yeah oh my god do you not watch the show hello uh i don't i don't share

00:56:08.920 that publicly that's fair oh fair enough i have stalkers and death threats and that kind of

00:56:13.880 shit but okay okay yeah i'll do the hosting though if you don't mind um so uh okay let me get into the

00:56:19.800 pre-show notes for everybody so we have a lot of pre-show notes uh we're gonna just jump right in to the

00:56:25.400 that so starting with uh let's see here abigail abigail so you got out of the long-term relationship

00:56:40.120 in january of 2024 and you as you described it you started binge dating yeah and you said you binge

00:56:46.760 dated at least 30 guys yeah right you we kind of already went over that and you said you met them on

00:56:51.880 dating apps bars clubs wherever the wind took you yep um and i think you clarified though it wasn't

00:56:59.240 30 at the same time it was 30 uh months consecutively yeah uh how long did it take you to meet all of

00:57:07.400 those about 30 like it was a two-month period three-month period probably like four four months

00:57:13.400 okay all right i thought it was like 30 at the same time and you're going on like multiple dates

00:57:18.680 a day um you said that the issue that seems to happen was they all wanted to be in a relationship

00:57:24.920 with you off the gecko yeah that was your typo she said i said gecko she already gave me shit for

00:57:32.680 this i knew you said you meant get get go but you didn't write gecko off the gecko can we put that on

00:57:38.600 that t-shirt um yeah off the gecko i should have in the chat spam gecko emojis you really don't have

00:57:45.320 to do that spam spam gecko emojis liberty gave me so much shit for um off the gecko off the gecko

00:57:50.920 so uh all the guys wanted to be in a relationship with you i think it's because i said i didn't

00:57:56.280 want anything and i feel like a guy wants but they can't have most of the time so it's like it was a

00:58:02.040 weird psychological thing and they were like oh she doesn't want anything serious so i'm gonna

00:58:07.240 pressure her into getting into something serious with me huh so were you uh sleeping with any of these

00:58:13.240 men out of the 30 probably like four oh four oh yeah and did those guys want relationships with

00:58:21.560 you yes they did okay i feel like it's usually the opposite like usually when you start sleeping

00:58:28.840 with them that's when they like don't want anything then but when you like hold back that's when they're

00:58:33.000 like yeah this this is wifey material i know it's maybe it's utah i'm sorry i just want to get a couple

00:58:39.080 a couple more quick details if you don't mind um were you doing stuff with these other guys

00:58:43.960 no strictly just holding that about it no like i mean i'd give them a hug goodbye say thank you so

00:58:50.280 much for dinner and go home and did most of them not make it to a second date then you know if we had

00:58:58.360 like a good conversation and i mean i would hang out with them again go grab dinner i kind of just saw

00:59:03.480 them all as like friends morally so if you it seems reasonable to me that if you go on multiple

00:59:09.960 days with a person or multiple dates with a person especially you know man woman whatever um that

00:59:17.480 there could be a growing expectation for relationship that's the point of them dating right

00:59:22.040 a hundred percent and that's why on the first date i would specifically say like i'm kind of just doing

00:59:27.400 this for fun um and they knew too like i'd let them know i kind of just got out of a really long

00:59:32.680 relationship and i'm not ready for something serious and it just so happened that they wanted

00:59:37.400 to go out with me again and they were okay with that yeah but i mean people send off all sorts of

00:59:43.800 mixed signals when they're dating right 100 and so i actually took a break from they'll say they'll say

00:59:47.880 all sorts of things like i'm not really looking for a commitment necessarily and then they commit

00:59:52.440 within a week and sometimes it's uh you know i'm just looking to play the field and they're not

00:59:57.480 they're actually looking for a commitment so you know it's hard it's hard to actually gauge so it

01:00:01.560 seems like it's reasonable from uh from a man's perspective he's dating you going on multiple dates

01:00:06.680 that he moves into the expectation of wanting a relationship that seemed reasonable to me

01:00:11.080 yeah i mean i 100 agree and i think probably about four months ago i stopped dating because i was

01:00:16.360 like this is kind of not what i want to do now if i am going to be seeing people and not

01:00:21.800 wanting anything that i shouldn't do this the fun's over the fun's i don't know is brian is brian

01:00:31.800 still right there he's doing cartwheels i just step away i don't know how long yeah no no problem i

01:00:39.080 just wanted to keep going through the pre-show notes yeah yeah uh wait so i missed the part that

01:00:45.640 you guys got into but um so you were upset that these piece of shit men wanted to be in a monogamous

01:00:55.240 relationship with you is that my read on no no but how dare they want to be in a relationship how dare

01:01:03.720 they no i want to be in a relationship with you it's because they all accepted it and they were like

01:01:07.960 yeah like let's just do this that's fun they all were like totally there for that and so for me to like

01:01:13.720 have them say that they're okay with it and then combat it and be like you shouldn't have led me

01:01:18.440 on it's like i told you from the beginning well were they paying for were they paying for these dates

01:01:24.280 um some yes but some i actually did pay for okay yeah i know i know i knew you were going to say

01:01:30.200 some right every woman says some they picked they bought a cup of coffee for the guy at one time

01:01:34.200 or something like that dinner the vast majority of the dates that you went on out of 40 how many times

01:01:39.640 did you pay um probably paid about like five times so five out of 40 something like that really you

01:01:48.680 paid for well wait you didn't go on 40 days you went out with 40 guys right like if i chalk it all up

01:01:57.880 30-ish okay 30-ish guys so you went on more than 40 days likely right maybe but some of those dates

01:02:05.640 weren't like something we pay for it was like summertime we blow up my paddleboard and go to

01:02:10.120 the lake we go paint we just hang out so why would you pay for dates i don't know i think at the

01:02:16.440 beginning i paid for more dates i felt really inclined i felt like i just needed to and then

01:02:22.520 it kind of turned into something like you know i should let the man pay if he wants to

01:02:26.840 okay and then of course they all wanted to right some of them yeah yeah so if they so they're paying

01:02:33.240 yeah they're paying for the dates they go on multiple days again it does seem it does seem

01:02:37.480 like a reasonable expectation right like if i go out if you if you really want to frame it like um

01:02:42.920 these are just friends right i just kind of explained to them we're friends right well when i go out with

01:02:47.160 my friends they pay for their own right i go out to a movie movie with a friend they pay for their

01:02:52.440 ticket i don't pay for their ticket i don't pay for their dinner i don't pay for any of their

01:02:55.560 shit i'm like you pay for your own stuff right isn't that how you you deal with your friends when you

01:03:00.200 guys go out yeah i do yeah yeah so i mean so i don't know when you say like well we kind of

01:03:07.880 made it sound like it's just uh i just want friends but also you pay for the date dinner and then we we

01:03:13.080 go out and do it again i could kind of see a reasonable expectation from a guy like doesn't

01:03:18.840 seem like we're friends okay it seems like something else going right does that make sense yeah i i see that

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01:04:47.640 shout outs at various intervals all right so i guess getting back into your notes you said that you

01:04:53.960 love being single uh and being tied down feels boring boring kind of yeah i've done a lot more in

01:05:04.040 the past year than i ever did when i was in a relationship and maybe it's because the person

01:05:08.120 held me back a little bit but i've traveled more i've done more so i guess that's why i say it was

01:05:13.800 boring to be in a relationship do you think boring is bad no i loved staying home and like watching a

01:05:19.800 movie with him it was very comforting but i think now that i've i just needed to get out of my system

01:05:25.160 you know i needed to go and get what out of your system living life and like being able to do things

01:05:30.280 that i wasn't able to do like when you go to the club with my friends go to the club okay yeah when

01:05:35.800 you say living life do you mean like sleeping with different men no not necessarily it's just like

01:05:42.680 living life and not having somebody like blow up my phone because i'm somewhere they don't want me to

01:05:47.320 be like the club yeah so when you were dating your uh when you were in your four-year relationship

01:05:55.480 uh he didn't want you going to bars or parties or no no do you think that i want to open this one up

01:06:02.840 to the panel do you think that this is a uh i guess unreasonable relationship standard of boundary

01:06:11.720 for a man or even a woman to have to not want their uh boyfriend or girlfriend to go out to drink and

01:06:20.360 party and go to bars and clubs you think it's reasonable unreasonable and secure we'll start

01:06:25.160 with you go ahead i'm sorry go ahead i think it's unreasonable i feel like everybody should be able

01:06:31.640 to enjoy and live their life like for me personally if i feel like hey i want to go backpacking for a

01:06:38.680 month i'm gonna go do it you get one life spend it how you want as long as you're respectful to each

01:06:44.920 other and you trust the person like why does it matter if your partner wants to go out and have

01:06:49.560 fun with their friends it shouldn't matter i guess before i'll respond to anybody in particular we'll

01:06:56.200 get everybody's take what about you um i think it depends on like your boundaries and your relationship

01:07:01.960 specifically but um i i believe like a proper healthy relationship has um you know a certain amount

01:07:09.720 of trust and respect and going out and whatnot shouldn't be an issue if you have that in your

01:07:16.200 relationship um as long as it's obviously not excessive you know okay i think we already got

01:07:22.200 your take on this what about you i think it depends i think again with the boundaries but if you want to

01:07:28.600 go to like lunch with your girlfriends or guy friends or whatever cool but i i don't think you should be

01:07:35.080 partying and drinking and stuff without your partner without your partner yeah okay you but your position

01:07:41.160 would be it's okay if you go with them yeah i think if they're with you then yeah but out going

01:07:45.640 to the clubs and stuff without i don't with your single gal pals you're kind of i don't agree with

01:07:50.040 it sure what about you um i kind of think it depends i mean i do think you have to have a lot of trust

01:07:56.680 in a relationship in general and you should be able to trust them to be out without you um but i don't

01:08:01.880 think it's unreasonable for somebody to have a preference against them sure what about you um i i don't really

01:08:08.680 care i'm not a big club person but if someone i dated wanted to go out to a bar i i won't care

01:08:15.240 whatever what about this so you're dating a guy and he says uh part i suppose a condition of us being

01:08:21.000 in a monogamous relationship is i would have an expectation that you're not going to bars or clubs

01:08:27.400 at all i love a good dive bar and smoking inside and getting a beer that would be hard to give up but

01:08:35.080 they could just go with you yeah let's say he goes with you but he doesn't want you going with

01:08:39.560 your single girlfriends to like the hottest la nightclub i personally want to care because i

01:08:44.760 don't like to go to nightclubs yeah it's not yeah so but i don't care if they wanted to go out i don't

01:08:51.000 think i would care that much okay whatever sure what about you i think like out of respect like like

01:08:58.760 they shouldn't be going to clubs and stuff and like partying i don't know that's just like disrespectful

01:09:02.920 okay like unless they go together sure what about you um i think it's case by case but i can tell you

01:09:08.760 from my experience that um he's fine with me doing girl weekends i'm here with my friend for the weekend

01:09:16.200 we a couple years ago we did tulum girl weekend um he hangs out with his friends so i mean obviously it

01:09:24.040 comes down to communication i think it's unreasonable if a husband's like no you can't hang out with your

01:09:29.720 girls do you think you think it's unreasonable yeah i mean there has to be boundaries though like i

01:09:35.320 don't drink so alcohol is a big um factor like if you're going out drinking then you're you know you're

01:09:46.120 you could make bad decision but i mean there has it has to be boundaries there has to be discussion

01:09:52.200 um but i think girl weekends are fine guy weekends are fine sure what about you i actually think that

01:10:00.280 if you want to go clubbing you should take your partner with you only because what if he doesn't

01:10:05.000 want to go if he doesn't want to go it depends on the event to be honest i feel like well at least for

01:10:11.240 me i only go to clubs if it's like a celebrity event or something like that so if it's something

01:10:15.400 that i feel like i'm gonna miss out hella for then i'm gonna go anyway but i will send videos i will

01:10:21.400 keep communication throughout the night i don't like when dudes go ghost when they go to the club

01:10:25.720 because what are you doing that you can't respond to the phone i feel like it's communication that

01:10:31.080 would definitely matter if you're going to the club without your partner okay did you say that it

01:10:35.080 irritated you with your last boyfriend because you were on the set and he would demand updates yeah but

01:10:40.680 set is different because it's a professional background when you're at the club it's a bunch of

01:10:44.280 people drinking you don't drink on set and i feel like when people are drinking around someone you

01:10:48.280 don't drink ever on set i literally have drank maybe twice on set for like so then you do drink

01:10:53.720 on set yeah but like it's most of the time i don't know okay i guess you you have a point

01:10:59.960 aren't you on like music video shoots with like rappers and shit yeah but they don't actually a

01:11:04.200 lot of the time they substitute it with water like if they have a tequila bottle it is water and

01:11:08.520 they aren't the rappers and like their crew or whatever like notorious for like one

01:11:12.760 fuck the music video chicks or whatever no because they actually don't like i mean i've seen

01:11:17.560 them like ask i guess i guess they do ask but like most of the time you don't want to sleep with a

01:11:22.920 celebrity oh yeah yeah because they're definitely like not they're nasty they're nasty okay what about

01:11:29.720 you um i think it's totally reasonable for your partner to uh outline their boundaries of what they

01:11:35.640 expect and what they don't expect i personally think it's a little bit of a red flag if you do want

01:11:39.720 to go out all the time uh my husband has unlimited freedom he can go have beers whenever he wants and

01:11:44.840 i kind of expect the same from him but i am in bed by 9 p.m um and that's my preference i don't

01:11:50.920 want to go out and i have no desire to be in the clubs what about you i think having this conversation

01:11:56.920 at the beginning of relationship and communicating about it is really important but i think if you're

01:12:01.480 going to go out every weekend and party and get sloppy drunk i think that's unattractive and any

01:12:07.160 anybody male or female um and when i do want to go out with my girlfriends or just anybody i really

01:12:13.960 just want my boyfriend there like i'd prefer him to be there or at least talk to him throughout the

01:12:18.760 night um but i really don't like to drink or go out without him okay yeah i would have to say it's

01:12:25.000 circumstantial but i would say overall um i think it's reasonable to ask that of your partner to not do

01:12:30.360 those things um i think my biggest thing would just be it's what's your intention of doing that in the

01:12:34.840 first place like why are you going out to clubs like is it to get girls like if you yourself are

01:12:38.920 going out to get drunk like is it because you want attention from guys um so i would just say it's if

01:12:45.560 it depends on what your intention is i think that there's circumstances if it's a bachelor party or a

01:12:50.120 bachelorette weekend obviously you're going to go out with your girls but at the end of the day if

01:12:53.960 you're going to a dive bar obviously um hold on what if you're you're engaged right what if your

01:13:01.000 fiancee says no oh to me going out i mean to your bachelorette party he says no maybe he would never

01:13:10.440 do that i don't do that i mean truly i don't particularly drink and i'm not going to go to a

01:13:16.200 male strip club or even to a club for my bachelorette party i think i'm probably going to go up to the

01:13:20.520 mountains and be in a cabin and maybe go skiing because that seems fun for me but um i think if

01:13:25.000 he said no i would probably appreciate that because he would probably have insight to something of like

01:13:30.280 what are your intentions for going out and trying to get sloppy drunk on your bachelorette weekend

01:13:34.120 i also think that's like disrespectful to go to like a male strip club a hundred percent even for like

01:13:38.600 males yes any strip club you're getting married the next day like yeah what are you doing i do think

01:13:44.520 it's important though for people to know that some of us do go out and we don't drink so i think like

01:13:51.160 you can't assume that going out getting drunk like you could go out and not drink for sure 90 percent of

01:13:56.360 the time you can also go out and not drink and participate in the game thing yeah in the what

01:14:02.040 what about you go ahead the game uh i think it depends where you're at like when i was younger uh me and

01:14:07.240 my boyfriends we always went out to i live at the jersey shore like in the summer it was a big thing to go

01:14:12.280 out so we'd always go out most likely together i'd go out with my girlfriends he'd go out with his guy

01:14:16.600 friends and we would meet up now that i'm older i still do like the nightlife um but i go to more

01:14:22.040 upscale lounges and um i think if i were in a relationship i'd probably go out with them more

01:14:29.240 but i do look at like how much they drink do they always get drunk are they always constantly out i just

01:14:35.080 make a mental note i don't really believe in like you can i think you can have a personal boundary i

01:14:41.160 don't think you need to communicate it like it's a law it's kind of controlling controlling yeah the

01:14:45.960 way they that's how you say it cool donated 200 very cool panel tonight thank you thank you thank

01:14:53.960 you cool appreciate the tts man thank you uh did you have more or okay um hmm so um this was in i think

01:15:04.760 in relation to something you were saying right abigail how like when you were dating the guy who didn't want

01:15:09.640 you going out i think the only thing that really bothered me was the first time i ever tried to go

01:15:14.760 to the club just with my girlfriends and i literally let him go to the strip club so i feel like it

01:15:21.720 was like and it wasn't just like hey don't do that it was like blowing up my phone wait he went the

01:15:26.040 same night no no no this was like before he you know he went so you had let him go to the strip club

01:15:31.320 yeah and you didn't have a problem with it now that you want to go to the bar just a club yeah

01:15:37.320 because i was freshly 21 yeah and i just was like i want to experience this with my friends go dance

01:15:42.120 and it i didn't i probably went in for like five minutes but he was blowing up my phone so much that

01:15:46.920 i actually ended up leaving because i was very very upset got it okay wow yeah wow that's a double

01:15:53.240 standard yeah yeah you would yeah i'm not sure if it is a double standard why do you think the strip club

01:15:59.240 is different than the regular club yeah i think it's different i think it's well i think it's

01:16:04.280 different in a couple ways so one let's if we were comparing men going to bars and clubs versus women

01:16:10.760 going to bars and clubs i definitely think there's there's a massive difference there but the strip

01:16:15.960 club versus the bar comparison first off none of the strippers will ever him ever like if you're

01:16:22.040 a customer at a strip club the girls don't the customers mostly right like you find them that's

01:16:27.080 okay yeah exactly well you they'll you'll prostitute yourself out to them right not you but like a lot

01:16:33.640 of them prostitute on the side but like would you agree that most of the strippers most of the

01:16:40.920 dancers i don't know if any of you uh anyone else has danced or whatever you've done stripping

01:16:47.080 typically i don't think you're attracted to your clientele no typically i've given literally like

01:16:51.720 two dances ever where i've found them attractive even remotely like i don't think most like so if

01:16:59.160 you're a guy going to strip club like your chances of getting laid i think are pretty low um oh did you

01:17:06.680 want to weigh in i want to say though um with like the bachelor parties i see more dancers going after the

01:17:12.600 bachelor versus the guys i hear he is with oh okay interesting interesting uh we'll come right back to

01:17:19.240 it i just want to thank ogle yo ogle thank you for the gifted 50 memberships man guys w's in the chat

01:17:24.680 for ogle with a big gifted big 50 gifted uh ogle is you popped like two champagne balls last time

01:17:32.520 that was wild man thank you uh you're a legend good to see you back in the chat ogle thank you so much

01:17:37.240 um by the way i think i sent you a message on the discord it's brixton on discord i sent you a message

01:17:43.640 i had a question for you unrelated to anything but check it out um so going back to this the

01:17:49.400 whole strip club scenario i think there's a major difference like as a girl if you're going to the

01:17:53.160 bar or club like the guys who are going to be approaching you they have like an enthusiastic

01:17:57.800 interest in actually sleeping with you whereas yeah like those strippers maybe they're trying to like

01:18:03.400 get your dude's money and sleep with it or excuse me not uh not sleep with them uh they they want to

01:18:09.480 maybe get a dance or like have him pay for a dance but there's like very low probability that

01:18:15.320 he's going to actually cheat on you in terms of sleeping with her maybe you view like getting a

01:18:20.680 dance as cheating that's another conversation but like in terms of like a romantic pursuit he's his

01:18:26.360 chances with any given stripper extremely low he's not going to get a phone number he's not going to get

01:18:31.000 a date he's not going to get anything can i just say something i feel like it's not the environment

01:18:37.320 it's the person and it's how secure you are in your relationship like personally

01:18:44.200 if my boyfriend wanted to go to the strip club sure because i know that i wouldn't date anyone

01:18:49.880 that i can't trust that's fair trust is a huge part of the trust is huge and i trust you till you show

01:18:56.680 me a reason not to so like from the get-go i'm like you want to go out sure i'm gonna go out too great

01:19:02.760 we're secure we trust each other can i hold on i do want to finish my point here on the double

01:19:08.280 standard thing then you guys can weigh in so but if we're comparing club to club the guy goes to the

01:19:13.240 club the woman goes to the club i don't know if it's so much a double standard look i'm personally i

01:19:18.600 don't drink i don't like going to bars and clubs i think these environments are uh terrible for a

01:19:24.840 myriad of reasons but that's besides the point let me ask you guys a series of questions and you

01:19:29.480 can just do raise your hands do you guys agree that men and women flirt differently raise your

01:19:34.600 hand if you agree like men and women flirt differently the way they go about it do you

01:19:41.640 agree that men women go about finding a partner differently yes do you agree that men are typically

01:19:48.360 pursuers and women are the pursuit yes not anymore i know really men are the typically the pursuers and

01:19:56.760 women are the pursuit show of hands raise your hands so you think women overwhelmingly initiate

01:20:02.360 first dates but just hang on just remember he's saying he's not saying all women are are pursued

01:20:08.760 by all men he's just saying typically typically generally normally what normally how does this work

01:20:14.440 is it normally men pursuing women or is it normally women pursuing men so have bearing that in mind when

01:20:20.120 he asked this question again yes typically would you say that men are the pursuers raise your hand raise

01:20:25.960 your hand that's everybody except you you think typically women are the pursuers so in my personal

01:20:31.720 experience don't care no offense but do not care okay well then the question is typically though like

01:20:37.640 don't you have female friends yeah okay like do you observe like the dynamics what like on date have you

01:20:45.720 been on a dating app yeah okay so maybe it's the case for you yeah i don't think men pursue in my

01:20:51.800 opinion but that's my experience right everybody has their own personal experience okay so your

01:20:55.640 experience is you've always been the pursuer 100 let me let me ask a question to get some clarity

01:21:01.240 here do you mean of the people you've dated because i'm assuming you've rejected men before it doesn't

01:21:07.880 happen often i don't get approached you don't get approached do you get do men slide into your dms

01:21:13.240 not really no not really no like if i pulled up my dms right now maybe it's your charming personality

01:21:21.320 i think i have a good personality but that's also object you know i think men are also very

01:21:26.600 intimidated by gorgeous women oh like and you are very beautiful they don't know her personality

01:21:31.080 sweet like i i never well i'm not calling myself beautiful but i've just never i never get approached i

01:21:35.560 never get dms even when i was single crickets yeah it's because they're like scared they're gonna get

01:21:41.560 rejected so i think that there is a fear of rejection among men so maybe that wait how old

01:21:45.720 you're 40 or how old you 36 um you've never been approached did you go to college uh no you didn't

01:21:53.240 go to college or wait but hold on i mean you were in two like long-term that's true and i don't put

01:21:59.720 myself in scenarios where i would like you never went to like the bar or club really i maybe like there

01:22:06.040 was like a time when i was 19. whoa what's funny tessa oh i didn't read it okay uh but no normally

01:22:13.560 no i don't i don't frequent those places okay sure okay um so i mean when it comes to pursuit so you

01:22:22.280 like with the men you've dated you go for the first kiss like you lean in for the first kiss you pay for

01:22:28.760 the date you plan the dates no i'll plan the dates okay with that first dates first dates sure why not

01:22:35.400 what do you mean i'm not asking if you would do that have you done that yeah what how many you

01:22:40.360 like well he's just asking typically yeah i mean all the first dates that you've gone on do you

01:22:44.840 usually plan the first date or is it the man it depends but here's the thing like i said i don't

01:22:50.520 really get ever well it's not that's not a question which can depend so it's either typically you plan

01:22:56.600 them or typically he plans them it can't depend it's either it's either one is one is true one is false

01:23:02.280 fair but i feel like i would have to be approached more than the amount of times that i have in order

01:23:07.800 to accurately answer that how many well if we're just going off of experience it actually doesn't

01:23:12.280 make much sense right because if you're saying within my experience uh it's the the man is not

01:23:17.640 the pursuer but then if we find out well within your experience it's actually always the man pursuing

01:23:22.760 then we don't know how you came to the conclusion that men are not the pursuers that's the problem

01:23:28.040 when it's directed at me men are not the pursuers most of the time if i see somebody in an environment

01:23:33.240 that i'm interested in i will beeline it go up to them be like hi my name is courtney i think you're

01:23:38.200 cute here's my number that's it like it's if i want something i'm just gonna why don't you ask for their

01:23:44.920 number i mean i have it's a mixture you know but regardless like what i'm saying is like i have no

01:23:52.440 problem approaching because i feel like men in general in my experience don't approach me so

01:23:59.000 you've approached more men than you've been approached yes okay okay um and you said you

01:24:06.840 don't get dms from men no if i pulled up my dms right now they'd just be like either work dms or

01:24:13.400 like those spam dms where people are like buy five thousand likes

01:24:17.480 all right that's fair um it's typically a rare uh female experience to be the pursuer more often

01:24:26.440 than the pursued but well i'm sure it happens i think maybe just like how goofy i am i feel like

01:24:32.440 that's always a big thing like i have videos on tick tock of me dressed as a hot dog like i just don't

01:24:38.200 think some guys are into that i don't know i don't know i've never met a man wait hang on you you have

01:24:43.960 videos on tick tock it's yeah she has a tick yes if i go and your face is showing in those videos on

01:24:51.160 tick tock i mean yes some of them i am dressed as a hot dog if i go to your tick tock channel and i pull

01:24:58.280 up the comments even if you're dressed as a hot dog i'm not going to see comments like oh you're so

01:25:03.880 gorgeous oh you're so beautiful oh uh you know blah blah blah blah i'm not going to see those comments

01:25:09.560 there um i don't know you don't know maybe i don't know i mean i i don't feel like in my experience

01:25:19.640 because that would be that would be pursuing right that would be men trying to make a pursuit so i was

01:25:25.000 really into tick tock live streaming and i created a fan base and a lot of my fans were like younger

01:25:31.560 and so i feel like when i would get compliments it was not from the perspective of a man trying to

01:25:37.080 pursue me these are like young kids that like to tune into my live streams and think it's funny

01:25:43.640 when i dress up as a hot dog like yeah i'm so i'm sure that you could have a much younger demographic

01:25:49.480 of uh of younger people let's say i don't i don't know like 12 to 14 or 16 or whatever uh i'm just

01:25:56.120 saying that obviously if it's public domain there's going to be many people who watch it who aren't kids

01:26:00.680 and i'm guessing that they're leaving comments something along the line of oh you're so gorgeous or

01:26:04.520 you're so beautiful uh blah blah blah they they don't leave comments like that i really don't

01:26:09.240 get that kind of um behavior i guess i don't know what the correct terminology is how many followers

01:26:17.800 do you have on instagram 133 000 how many followers you have on tiktok 28 20 23.8 i don't know i would

01:26:26.840 be surprised if you were not getting and this is being conservative at least a couple dms from men

01:26:33.720 per month i think you would be higher i i mean i look i could be wrong i'm not you

01:26:40.200 maybe you don't check your dms i would categorize definitely check my dms because i use it for work

01:26:45.720 sure i mean i would categorize that if they are dming you as pursuit but if you're saying no that

01:26:52.680 never happens men never dm me i mean i guess we'll just take your word for it that if they are if

01:26:59.640 somebody dms me and their intention is to have me view them as a potential date or anything they're

01:27:07.720 not sending me the right messages because i'm not getting the messages that give me like hey let's

01:27:13.720 go on a date it's okay yeah sure what are they one sec um hey what's up or like i work in music

01:27:24.680 let's do a session like things like that it's not i don't think it has to be a business collaboration

01:27:30.040 it would have to be like there is some degree of romantic overture like uh hey what's up if it's from

01:27:36.200 a guy probably would be indicative of like a romantic interest but if he's like hey do you want

01:27:41.960 to collaborate i mean these guys are trying to they probably still i mean i don't think so i work

01:27:48.840 in music and i've never had somebody wait hold on you work in the music industry and there's not like

01:27:54.040 producers who are trying to the girls come on i have never in my experience had a producer

01:28:00.120 cross that line with me ever not approach me not make me uncomfortable nothing so that's just my

01:28:06.760 experience okay anybody else here in the entertainment industry there's not like dudes who are trying to

01:28:12.520 like fuck there definitely there definitely are but they're way more careful with it now because

01:28:18.120 you can definitely get sued or a lawsuit so they sued yeah like wait if a rapper slides into your dms

01:28:24.200 and he's like no no like if it's on if it's like in person and somebody's like harassing you like

01:28:28.680 that would be considered okay you know all right i always made the joke i did i did just want to

01:28:33.160 quickly follow up i'm sorry uh your instagram you said has 133k on it uh yeah and it has pictures of

01:28:39.800 you all over it right yeah okay and you're saying that on your instagram you're not getting male

01:28:45.800 attention in your dms from men who are saying things like i think you're beautiful or you're so gorgeous

01:28:51.960 or blah blah blah blah that's not happening at all no

01:28:55.320 what okay all right whatever i've been on this for a while i know i'm like i'm just like where to

01:29:04.280 god like i'm just it doesn't matter

01:29:07.560 course imp donated two hundred dollars now i'll pass this time the 304s here dilute the rest of the

01:29:15.720 panel oh what does that mean what does that mean it's an area code or something i'm not sure what

01:29:20.360 he's i'm pretty sure 304 has to do with like a um like like an area code no like no i think it means

01:29:26.200 ho because if you put it on a calculator it spells they would not say that that's crazy get out of

01:29:33.480 here tessa get your mind out of the gutter no no no get your mind out of the gutter

01:29:40.760 ogle donated to oh ogle has an interest

01:29:47.320 that was clear see there's some pursuit um ogle thank you here i guess i'll just bring it back to

01:29:53.480 where i was trying to go so i i asked the panel uh do you agree that men are typically pursuers i think

01:29:59.640 pretty much everyone said yes except for you that's fine uh do you agree that men are more likely

01:30:04.440 to approach a woman than the reverse show of hands okay yes would you agree that men are more active and

01:30:12.040 women are more passive at least early on in the relationship or courtship wait say it again sorry

01:30:19.640 more active and women are more passive so men will take more initial steps of initiative like approaching

01:30:26.520 you asking for the number setting up the date planning the date moving things forward going

01:30:30.760 for the first kiss etc 50 50 i'm just going to do this and then do you agree that women are more

01:30:36.280 likely to put themselves in a position to be approached just show of hands no no i get that's

01:30:44.840 kind of a complicated one in any case when it comes to the double standard i know we've kind of

01:30:52.280 been talking about some other things when it comes to this double standard the girl goes to

01:30:55.320 the club the guy that goes to the club why is it a little different so when people get into a

01:31:00.280 relationship they agree to be exclusive monogamous and i think there's there is a societal understanding

01:31:06.360 that both parties should not be actively pursuing right here's the catch though related to all the

01:31:13.480 questions i just asked you women don't really pursue now you might have occasionally approached a guy or

01:31:20.680 you'll slide into like some famous tiktokers dms or something but typically speaking again are there

01:31:27.400 women who will approach a guy maybe you've done it that's not what i'm talking about i'm just saying

01:31:32.280 on a balance of probabilities more often than not more likely and i think it's probably closer to 90 95

01:31:38.760 percent of the time men are the pursuers women are the pursued so because women really rarely or even never

01:31:46.600 pursue there is no societal standard that dictates when women get into relationships they stop their

01:31:54.600 behavior and conduct which is the way that you guys advertise yourselves so your way of maybe meeting

01:32:03.080 a guy whether you want to admit it or not is through advertisement you'll post a photo on instagram maybe it's a

01:32:10.600 revealing one you'll go to the bar the club you might say i don't go with the expressed intent

01:32:16.920 purpose of going to the bar or club to meet a guy but you're putting yourselves in scenarios where

01:32:23.880 it's likely to happen now if you get approached at trader joe's i don't think there's any issue there but

01:32:29.720 when you go to these very specific social venues where you know going in okay like there's probably

01:32:36.520 there's gonna be guys who approach me um i do think it's interesting that we've clamped down

01:32:45.080 on men's the way men flirt which is oh it's clearly cheating if you're in a relationship and as a guy

01:32:51.880 i approach a girl and start flirting with her but we don't really clamp down on the way like the woman

01:32:58.520 like when the woman's single and the man's single both of them are single woman goes to a club man goes

01:33:03.560 the club man approaches woman right well we would acknowledge that for both of them that would be

01:33:09.560 cheating if they either of them pursued but women don't really do the pursuit so you still conduct

01:33:17.480 yourselves really as if you're single even when you're in relationships so you still go the bar you

01:33:23.720 still go the club and so the reason men as at least how some of you would put it is controlling

01:33:29.560 the man is actually trying to exert the same boundary and restriction that has been placed

01:33:35.160 on him because society doesn't dictate to women oh well now that you're in a relationship you should

01:33:40.760 stop the way in which you flirt which is not to be overt you don't flirt overtly you typically don't go

01:33:47.720 up to the dudes you don't slide into dms you let it come to you and then you pick among the men who

01:33:52.840 have already shown an interest in you so i think it's a fair proposition that once you are in a

01:33:59.480 monogamous relationship the man clearly needs to shut down his methods by which he meets women which is

01:34:07.240 pursuit but there's no corresponding expectation that women shut down their means of meeting men which

01:34:15.000 is to put themselves in situations where men pursue them men can go out without hitting on women

01:34:23.160 they want to have a drink with the guys they can go out and just hang out they don't have to pursue

01:34:26.600 anyone and the women can go out and just enjoy time with their girls and just say sorry i'm in a

01:34:30.760 relationship i have a boyfriend well the difference is as a guy even if both people are single as a

01:34:36.360 guy if for the majority of men if you go to a nightclub bar or party and you're just you're just there

01:34:43.800 with your drink whether you're with your friends or alone at the bar there's no chicks are coming

01:34:52.760 and talking to you but if you're a girl whether you're there alone or with your girlfriends

01:34:58.600 good probability chance that there is one two three maybe more guys that are going to come and talk to

01:35:03.560 you yes there's a differential there so yeah the guy to add to that like what brian's saying these

01:35:09.800 these are words that i've never heard from a man in my life i'm gonna go out dancing with the boys

01:35:16.040 at the club that's not the thing which i've never heard it once i've never heard any other male that

01:35:22.920 i've ever associated with say hey what's up man let's go out with the boys to the club so that we

01:35:28.680 could dance never happened ever so what what are those men doing there do you think

01:35:37.400 what do dudes drinking do when they go to the club by themselves in a relationship

01:35:41.560 they try and get women have sexual intercourse with you that's what they're doing at the club

01:35:45.800 what do you think they're doing at the club so then it's the same thing it is it's literally so i'm

01:35:52.200 confused like it's it's still yes a man shouldn't be going to the club and a woman should be going

01:35:56.280 in the club in the relationship but the difference is like if you're observing the behavior so if the

01:36:01.960 man goes to the club and he continues his single behavior even though he's in a relationship

01:36:06.760 it's clearly cheating but as women your behavior when you're single and your behavior when you're

01:36:13.800 in a relationship remains the exact same because you aren't approaching guys are going to approach you

01:36:19.960 and look i'm not saying that like you could reject every single dude that approaches you

01:36:24.440 but still you're putting yourself in a position where you're going to be engaged with some dude

01:36:30.200 and then you got all your single friends there let's say you're out with your single girlfriends

01:36:34.040 they're entertaining dudes and say it's like three girls and three like a girl group of three and a

01:36:40.360 male group of three who's the other dude gonna talk to he's gonna talk to you right maybe you're

01:36:48.520 oh i got a boyfriend he's still talking to you are we not allowed to talk to the opposite sex i mean

01:36:54.200 if the guy's trying to fuck you you probably shouldn't be like talking to him like once that's

01:37:00.040 been established it's it's there's a there's a degree of impropriety where it's disrespectful to

01:37:07.320 the relationship to be talking to somebody who's trying to fuck you but then wouldn't that be every

01:37:12.680 single male because don't men think with their penis well i disagree with that last part but like

01:37:19.240 if a single guy is talking to you like a single guy could be talking to you and not have a romantic

01:37:24.840 or sexual interest but yeah you're probably right insofar as if you're a betting person they probably

01:37:32.520 are interested in something i think it's i mean as a species i think as a species where's this

01:37:39.560 going okay look i think everybody has thoughts about sex some of them are not controllable right

01:37:47.160 i think i i just i don't think that it's right to say that you shouldn't talk to somebody of the

01:37:57.720 opposite sex just because when you're speaking they might have a sexual thought can i interject sure

01:38:03.960 you go first then you and then you wanted something or are you good i feel like even talking to that

01:38:09.320 person in the first place is kind of giving that energy and even if you don't have like the

01:38:15.640 i guess plans to cheat or interest to cheat it kind of opens the door for that when you're even like

01:38:21.080 giving that opportunity to even arise in the first place so i view it as a problem honestly yeah i would

01:38:28.200 have to agree um i mean i'm just going to kind of bring it to a marriage standpoint that's what i do for

01:38:33.320 work so that's what i'm going to talk about from um instead of even dating because i think

01:38:37.800 dating is just a holding place for what we should be doing and that's getting married but

01:38:42.200 i digress um with that when you look at affairs that happen very few affairs start with just

01:38:49.720 physical it's typically an emotional affair that begins and so anytime that you're having a

01:38:55.080 conversation with the opposite sex what is that conversation about again like i would go to

01:38:59.800 the point of intention but like any sort of intentional conversation i'm not saying go ask

01:39:06.440 for directions to the local in and out or you know hey can you help me pick up this bottle of water or

01:39:12.280 whatever else um but like any conversation that is going on i don't think it should be happening

01:39:17.880 between men and women when you guys are in a committed relationship because what is the point of that if

01:39:24.360 you're not trying to get into i mean you don't just talk to somebody for like shits and gigs without

01:39:28.600 like truly wanting to be their friend or have an emotional connection with them like you want to be

01:39:33.240 able to develop something more with them even if it's just a friendship what's wrong with having

01:39:37.560 friends of the opposite sex it just opens the door to the potential of something happening because

01:39:43.000 why be close with somebody if it's not going to lead to something further type thing because we're humans

01:39:48.840 i know but i think that that's where we're built to have female friendships as females and male

01:39:54.200 friendships as males i think if you're kind of crossing those lines it's going to potential

01:39:59.000 potentially inevitably lead to something more and it depends i mean like truly if you're single by all

01:40:06.760 means have all the connections in the world with all the men because that might lead to an emotional

01:40:11.640 connection that goes further sure but i think when you're in a committed relationship or a marriage that

01:40:16.200 shouldn't be something where you're just texting a dude or calling him late at night like that seems

01:40:21.480 like about that no that's no no no for sure but like that is where those doors begin to open yeah or

01:40:27.960 venting about your relationship correct to a male friend of course didn't you just say that men think

01:40:33.000 with their penis yeah so that but then so you say men think with their penis why can't i have guy friends

01:40:43.000 that's a very strange reconciliation that you now need to make right but i also said that in general

01:40:49.720 people i mean we all have random thoughts about sex it happens like it's just right in our dna right

01:40:56.600 like some females have it but to act to act on the thing requires thinking of the thing to begin with

01:41:02.440 so if you're a man and by your metric thinking with your penis right in order to act that thing that

01:41:08.680 you're thinking about out you have to think of it first right you can't act a thing out that you

01:41:13.160 don't think about so if if if in your head men are thinking about sex right well then that would be

01:41:20.440 the first step to acting on sex right not necessarily just because i have thoughts about sex doesn't mean

01:41:28.200 i'm going to act on it yeah right but can you act on sex if you don't think about it i don't think you can

01:41:33.720 but huh i just think that maybe i'm just like too chill right maybe i'm just too chill but i trust

01:41:46.440 until you give me a reason not to trust i don't think it's right for somebody to say you're not

01:41:51.080 allowed to have female friends you're not allowed to have male friends but that's just my perspective

01:41:55.000 do you mind if i if i challenge this real quick sure we'll just see if that's actually true so

01:41:59.560 can i just ask you do you have any phobias like a fear of spiders things like that perhaps

01:42:05.720 i don't like airplanes yeah you don't like airplanes i don't like flying i really don't

01:42:11.480 no what else what else do you have that's a phobia that's it no there's no like if if you see a

01:42:18.280 spider uh you don't go oh my god oh my god yeah same thing with yeah sure but i'm not that i think a

01:42:24.040 phobia is a lot heavier than having like a standard fear because i think majority of people i'm just

01:42:31.080 saying like uh you may when i say phobia i'm just saying behave irrationally towards a thing that

01:42:36.200 normally airplanes flying flying for me flying don't like flying do you don't you have the reasonable

01:42:44.600 expectation that your partner if you had to get on an airplane and was with you would comfort you

01:42:48.920 through this irrational fear that you had sure yeah so then if that's the case i don't understand

01:42:56.120 why you would put that on him since it's irrational it's actually irrational on your behalf and yet

01:43:01.400 you're putting that on them and yet here if your partner has perhaps an irrational fear that you may

01:43:07.000 do something nefarious even if it's not rational right it's just in their head right why wouldn't you

01:43:13.400 give them that same comfort i think you can give the same comfort without separating this i like

01:43:19.240 creating this idea that you can only have friends of the same sex how do you make the determination

01:43:24.760 of how you comfort somebody else they're going to make the determination of how they're comforted right

01:43:29.240 i think you can't go over and say well i know that it doesn't make you feel any better than i'm telling

01:43:34.440 you hey shut up the airplane's not going to hurt you right but yeah but how do you know no i'm kidding

01:43:39.960 i don't feel very comforted by that andrew when you just said shut up the airplane's not going to

01:43:44.520 hurt okay so let me put this into perspective for you so do i have a phobia of airplanes yes do i

01:43:50.040 usually cry on takeoff absolutely i still do it i still push through it i still fly i've been to 24

01:43:58.360 countries i don't let that hold me back in life and i feel like with any fear or phobia on whatever the

01:44:06.040 topic you have to work through that now whether that's you know working through your own inner

01:44:10.600 demons when it comes to relationships having conversations setting up okay like you go out

01:44:16.360 i go out but like how do we make this comfortable for both of us i don't think you would agree that

01:44:21.480 some irrational fears are not really a big deal and some of them are no i would never tell somebody

01:44:26.360 that their fear of whatever they're i would never tell somebody that their fear is not valid

01:44:31.560 right final thought so then the thing is is like if you have a spider if you're a woman who's

01:44:36.680 terrified who raise your hands if you freak out when there's a spider tell the truth tell the truth

01:44:42.280 i have a fear but i'm not like yeah and you go oh my god what's that and then a guy comes by and he

01:44:47.640 just takes his hand so this is what i always do right it's just and then the spider's dead i don't

01:44:53.160 and then off i walk i don't even think about it but for women they freak out about it right seems

01:44:57.480 very irrational to me and yet or how about this one any of you ever woke up next to a guy that

01:45:03.320 you're with who you've been with long term and perhaps woke him up out of a dead sleep because

01:45:08.680 you had a bad dream that included him in it anyone go ahead hands up let's see him let's stop coping

01:45:16.520 stop i know i know i know you so the thing is it's like all of that is totally irrational and yet it's

01:45:22.600 like but comfort the reason you're waking him up is because you want to be comforted from whatever

01:45:27.320 this irrational fear is that you have but for some reason brian's introducing a rational fear

01:45:34.360 that you could assuage from the person it's an actual rational completely reasonable fear

01:45:39.800 and yet even then you're resistant to it when even when if you have an irrational fear you expect to

01:45:44.760 be uh comforted for it so doesn't doesn't that seem kind of uh kind of silly in a way no i think

01:45:51.880 having conversations doesn't make it silly i mean first of all i would never date somebody who ever

01:45:58.360 told me that i can't talk to other males or have male friends and i would never tell my partner that

01:46:04.920 but that's just me i think every person is different every person holds different boundaries and values

01:46:10.040 and i'm not gonna you know that's it's just my hot take for my life right the last thing real quick

01:46:18.280 before brian moves on i know that we have a lot of people here so i just say one more thing on this so

01:46:22.840 you said that you this is for chair three you said that hey you let your boyfriend go out to the strip

01:46:28.200 club right and so like it seems fair that he would let you go out right yeah yeah but i've seen this sneaky

01:46:35.400 thing right that women understand that they'll be pursued whereas we will not and so they'll actually

01:46:40.920 allow that to happen thinking two steps ahead that well nothing's going to happen with him

01:46:45.880 and that then gives me permission to go out to do the nefarious thing yeah and uh and i also after

01:46:53.960 that whole day like i didn't ever go out so it's like i guess i kind of tested my luck and i'm like oh

01:47:00.840 i'm gonna go out and it was an immediate fight and then i never went out so i was doing chris donated

01:47:08.280 two hundred dollars i have females that i pretend to be friends with bc i've smashed some when their

01:47:15.080 partners slipped thank you chair one i would not be able to this without females like you co-signing

01:47:21.560 the bs i tell them all right thank you chris for the uh tts i appreciate it and we have two messages

01:47:29.560 from lucas coming in here in just a moment um i also do think it's there's like the potential

01:47:36.440 concern when it comes to risk of infidelity like if you're drunk or even if you're not drunk but

01:47:41.960 you're in you're in a club this sort of party type environment uh i think men also do this out of like

01:47:47.080 a protection instinct like women get their uh drinks uh what's it called when they tapped uh what's

01:47:54.840 spiked thank you um they don't want you maybe being in a dangerous situation there's oftentimes

01:48:01.240 maybe a fight breaks out he doesn't want you to get hurt like a lot of guys it's not just necessarily

01:48:05.640 from a controlling position but like the masculine urge to literally protect you and protect the

01:48:11.000 relationship so i mean men are going to mate guard their girlfriend they don't they don't want you

01:48:17.400 cheating even then though they don't want you being in a potentially dangerous situation and it's like i

01:48:23.560 guess you know you could go to trader joe's and some guy could try something at tj's but like

01:48:30.680 we know these environments like you guys have been to these environments especially if you've been to

01:48:35.000 clubs in la los angeles there's a lot of degen shit going on people are doing drugs girls get their

01:48:42.120 shit spiked who knows who knows what it is um that's obviously very wrong but um we're just trying

01:48:48.040 to protect you from potentially dangerous situations and uh trying to think if there's anything else oh

01:48:55.080 and then like you know i've seen some crazy shit like i you know i used to go to parties in college

01:49:00.840 and stuff i saw crazy shit like people fucking in the middle of the party people finger blasting each

01:49:06.840 other in the middle of the party that's wild can i ask you a question hold on hold on so uh

01:49:14.040 like you know girl like i've never seen that shit go down at trader joe's like or costco like no

01:49:22.120 chicks getting finger blasted in the trader joe's right yeah i'd seen no finger blasting at the trader

01:49:28.120 joe's is it quick because i got moving on oh go ahead good good so if the whole not being able to be

01:49:35.640 friends with the other gender if you had a guy that had a boyfriend that had this girl best friend and

01:49:41.720 wanted to go out to the club with her until 2 a.m and you'd be comfortable with that so my last

01:49:48.120 relationship uh he has a childhood best friend that is a girl and she and him were very close and i fully

01:49:55.800 trusted them and i it never bothered me when they wanted to hang out without me because it's like

01:50:02.280 was she good looking yeah well i mean it's important right it's important to know because it

01:50:08.440 could change the dynamic if she's not good looking so i don't mean is she good looking in the sense of

01:50:13.960 you think all human beings are beautiful i'm asking it was she actually good yeah okay so if

01:50:20.280 she i mean she was actually good looking chances are at some point they're probably going to have

01:50:24.360 sex i just i hate to be bad news i don't know i think the relationship from diapers is a little bit

01:50:31.240 different that's like a sibling what makes it different why would that be why would that be

01:50:38.360 different i think when you grow up with somebody like that it's a different dynamic don't you go up

01:50:45.720 i mean there's a woman right now who's married to a man she was in high school was growing up together

01:50:51.320 so she's engaged to a wonderful man um it's not that's i i just i don't that's not i have to move

01:50:59.240 it on sorry guys um lucas you throw around terms such as insecure controlling and trust

01:51:04.200 but those are nothing more than manipulative tropes as a married man i can tell you that

01:51:08.120 it distills down to etiquette to which he continues by saying this will take a few seconds to pop back

01:51:14.040 up but lucas thank you for the uh stream labs message i do very much appreciate it thank you

01:51:19.640 give me one sec there it is a respect for the sanctity of the marriage family unit and just as

01:51:25.320 importantly avoiding even the mere appearance of impropriety as a husband i behave like a husband

01:51:31.160 and my wife does the same

01:51:36.600 yeah there can never be a problem so it's it's the same thing for people who they carry a pistol

01:51:42.120 for self-defense the first thing an instructor will tell them it's the best play the best way to carry

01:51:48.360 um regardless of where you're carrying doesn't matter it's extracting yourself from a situation before

01:51:53.720 you have to use the pistol that matters so you're actually training avoidance right to avoid ever

01:51:59.240 being in a situation where you have to defend yourself to begin with so in this case the illusion

01:52:03.800 of impropriety exactly what he's saying is like there can't ever be a situation where this happens if

01:52:08.840 you don't put yourself in the situation where it does so going back to your notes abigail you said your

01:52:14.200 best friend who's sitting right over there is in the same boat as you she broke up with her long-term

01:52:20.920 boyfriend who is your ex's best friend a week after you broke up with two weeks two weeks okay

01:52:31.160 uh so was this like a plan you guys planned this shit i mean best friends do what best friends do

01:52:36.760 you know we talked about it i went to her house as soon as we broke up and she helped me and maybe in

01:52:43.960 ways maybe you need to speak on this because it's like i think in ways she noticed that you can actually

01:52:49.240 or she realized you can leave if you're not happy so maybe she just made that decision for herself

01:52:54.600 yeah i don't know i feel like after you debate about it a couple for like you know a couple weeks

01:52:59.080 or just have a weird feeling about the relationship that you're in and then your best friend does it

01:53:05.160 and then it was also the fact that me and him had argued about what we do now for the fact that they

01:53:11.240 had broken up and i don't know i'm gonna see why um so this is this is actually a perfect example of

01:53:18.600 what's often talked about with um men who are in the various stages of divorce

01:53:26.680 so what often will happen is that women with divorced friends tend to get divorced way more often

01:53:33.240 when their friend gets divorced and it's exactly because of this situation right here the divorced

01:53:38.040 friend comes over and says actually you know i'm getting divorced but also chuck over there you

01:53:43.240 know i noticed he hasn't been doing the dishes as much as he should you know he really he hasn't been

01:53:48.360 uh he hasn't been spending enough quality time with you has he and think about all the freedom we'll have

01:53:52.920 and this and that it's it's but it's purely coincidental that this happened for you guys right i mean

01:53:58.760 it wasn't pre-planned at all it's just pure coincidence wasn't pre-planned but i also didn't like i

01:54:04.520 i didn't go over there like talking crap on her ex at all it was her fully supporting me and my life

01:54:10.040 was changing you didn't say a single bad thing about the ex hand to god no about my ex for sure no no

01:54:15.880 about hers no because they were still living not a single thing nothing no i also didn't talk about

01:54:21.960 our problems very often no no very much uh you also said abigail you were in a situation ship and he

01:54:28.040 caught you on a date with another guy and then you all ended up playing pool together uh yeah wait so

01:54:34.200 you you were in a situation ship for how long um it was like two months okay and then he caught

01:54:43.160 you you were on a date with another dude was it the first date yeah it was the first date with the

01:54:47.400 other dude and they both invited me to the same baseball game so i kind of like pre-warned him and

01:54:54.520 again since the situation ship knew i didn't really want anything super serious um we just ended up hanging

01:55:00.520 out a lot um he was like oh well i'm gonna be there too and then we all ended up at the same bar

01:55:06.440 and then we all played pool together okay he wasn't upset no maybe he didn't tell me that well did you

01:55:15.480 continue seeing the situation ship or did it end shortly thereafter um i ended up kind of like breaking

01:55:20.680 things off with him yeah a couple weeks later caught you on a date with another guy he thought it was

01:55:26.920 funny i hope uh yeah that's okay um you said you feel like people are too scared to hit on others in

01:55:36.360 person due to social media and dating apps most can handle rejection over the phone rather than in

01:55:42.360 person yeah when you say people do you mean men i think both ways 100 i see men and women both like

01:55:50.600 scared to approach people because i think they can do it over their phone they can send you a dm that's

01:55:55.000 a lot easier to get rejected over a dm than in person but i mean women don't really have to approach

01:56:02.040 people i guess in my circumstance i tend to approach or i just do i just do weird things what

01:56:07.000 do you mean what's a weird thing show us i got a guy by going like across the bar and then you did

01:56:14.520 a nazi salute no no it's more like yo clip it clip that shit boys clip it and chip it oh my god

01:56:20.760 fucking nazi over here no she just did a c high it was a salute it was a salute no you that's some

01:56:27.080 elon musk my heart goes out shit clip it and chip it i don't know he liked it i guess i'm kidding

01:56:32.680 i'm just um okay so you you did a this yeah okay and that i mean it worked and that so that's how

01:56:41.720 you approached and then wait wait wait he came up to you after you did it right no we kind of like

01:56:45.800 met in the middle i kind of like started dancing oh i did oh yeah show us show us the real show us

01:56:50.760 the real one yeah i'll give you a full thing it was like show us the real go ahead made eye contact it

01:56:54.520 was like ain't no way there you go okay i love that yeah that's cute so wait was that the one

01:57:04.120 time though that you i mean i definitely do weird things i'm sure she can tell you she can it's she

01:57:08.840 can vouch she can vouch i'm just strange i don't know you're strange yeah i can like go up and like

01:57:14.680 you know maybe that's kind of a bit of weird but like you know kind of was that like playing with

01:57:18.680 a ball yeah that's what i'm scared people are scared i think there's there's probably a greater

01:57:33.640 burden though on men here just because i women don't really approach it nearly as often they do

01:57:40.360 it occasionally uh so so then are you saying that men are scared oh sure i think men are

01:57:48.440 scared but i think i don't know if it's women are scared i think it's more so they just don't

01:57:55.720 have to like if you're just constantly bombarded by male initiative and male attention you would

01:58:01.800 just pick among the men who've already picked you so it's like you don't really you don't really need

01:58:08.760 to approach as a woman yeah but there's a dichotomy there for saying that men are scared then women

01:58:14.520 don't particularly have a pool to choose from what do you mean well we just established that

01:58:20.920 potentially men are scared to approach yeah they are they are the approachers so you're saying women

01:58:26.200 have a pool to choose from if men aren't pursuing like approaching them then they don't have a pool to

01:58:32.920 choose from well that's not i mean that's not really a dichotomy though i don't think right and so

01:58:37.880 the idea the idea there is just to say so these are just descriptors it's like yes men normally do

01:58:44.120 pursue just because men are more worried about pursuit than they've ever been and they're nervous

01:58:48.760 about it doesn't mean they still aren't the pursuers right and i i saw a statistic recently and maybe

01:58:53.800 andrew you've seen it too uh something like men between the ages of 18 to 29 like 45 of them it was

01:59:01.480 like 45 or 55 percent have never in their entire life approached a woman i don't know if it was like

01:59:08.200 pew research i saw it on twitter i don't know the exact specific numbers even if it like even i think

01:59:14.840 without stats to back this in which there is you are you are correct or there is pew research on this

01:59:20.280 for and that's just what people are saying they've experienced right um but i mean you we can just

01:59:26.120 observe this so the reason all of all of you except chair one raised your hand when you said look who

01:59:31.560 do you think the pursuers are men or women and said men because this is what you generally see is that

01:59:37.400 you've been pursued probably yourself and not been the pursuer most of the time and probably that's

01:59:42.680 true of most women you know so i mean that is factually true right that just in your in your experience

01:59:49.400 it's definitely the men pursue it why how about this has any girl here uh not approached a guy first

01:59:59.960 what do you mean like like you went up to a guy i'm not counting like dms i'm counting

02:00:05.080 in person at the strip club uh no okay you have i mean if it's someone i'm really attracted to sure

02:00:11.000 you've done it here guys we're we're audio too so there's people who are just listening i need

02:00:18.440 an affirmative not just a head shake i need a yes or no yes yes i don't think so yeah i'm exempt

02:00:31.640 who approached you with your boy your husband my husband approached me okay no i don't think i

02:00:36.040 have never done it never done it okay you have i never have i pursued my boyfriend so and then what

02:00:41.800 about you i really don't approach i think i've maybe started conversations okay yeah so i would say

02:00:48.200 then if you were to ask that both my chat and brian's chat right now for men to put ones in

02:00:53.800 if they've uh they ever approached right whereas just on this panel there's women here who say i've

02:00:59.720 never approached even one time i don't think we'd be able to find a single man who hasn't who hasn't

02:01:05.400 approached well i mean the the stats that i i was referencing indicated that in that age demographic i think

02:01:13.000 18 to 29 45 i don't know if it's 45 55 i forget the exact number uh have never approached once

02:01:23.000 so those people are living online that's why they're very young 18 to 29 they don't get off their couch

02:01:29.400 and they're always on the apps and they're always on the internet that's why they're not putting

02:01:32.600 themselves out there in the real world and even trying to practice well that's really i i'd have to

02:01:38.440 dispute that because most relationships now are found on the internet so you're saying well you

02:01:43.640 know men are men are on the internet a lot or people are on the internet a lot and that's the problem

02:01:47.720 it's like not really it's actually giving you access to a way wider pool than you ordinarily would

02:01:53.400 ever have had before which it could that could be problematic in different ways but most relationships

02:01:58.840 now start online i didn't say it's a problem i'm just saying that's why they're not pursuing because

02:02:02.920 they're doing everything online they pursue online yeah i also think though they don't approach though

02:02:08.440 it's terrifying as well yes hang on yes they are approaching online how are they not approaching

02:02:13.800 well they said they've never sliding into the dms they're the approachers but didn't you say didn't

02:02:18.760 they say that they never approached in real life isn't that the statistic about for women for for women

02:02:25.240 that women aren't approaching rights men are approaching well that statistic that you just said

02:02:30.600 about 18 to 29 they never approached a woman that was about men yeah men that never because i said

02:02:36.200 they're young and they're online in person yeah they haven't approached in person that's all oh in

02:02:41.240 person yeah yeah yeah sure but but they're approaching them online okay i think online dating

02:02:47.480 has also really increased i mean i met my boyfriend on hinge he's a he's a great guy um i i think there's

02:02:53.400 like select apps for it though i think if you're on tinder frequently that's that's a hookup app i think

02:02:58.280 if you're on hinge you're a little bit more serious so i think it really depends on the app

02:03:02.760 closer to the mic i think it's terrifying for men to approach women these days though too because

02:03:10.680 women have gotten vicious when men approach them they get accused of harassment oh i have a boyfriend

02:03:17.400 and like women don't know how to turn down guys nicely anymore so guys stop trying there's like a lack

02:03:23.000 of respect yeah today's society and then like also i think there is a component of with social media

02:03:31.480 like if if you kind of approached and you kind of fumbled a little bit or maybe you were a little like

02:03:37.240 did something a bit embarrassing right and it's like well it was embarrassing in the moment but it's

02:03:42.920 just it vanishes into eternity it vanishes into the ether uh but now it's like with social media people are so

02:03:51.320 interconnected you don't know what if she's got tick tock and she's gonna be like oh uh i was at you

02:03:56.920 know and this guy did this thing i mean we've reacted to some clips where and look men aren't

02:04:03.640 always conducting themselves or acting perfectly sometimes they're weird sometimes they're goofy

02:04:09.160 creepy whatever it is right but like a lot of women will put dudes on blast online and like men care a

02:04:17.480 lot about their reputation like one of the worst things you can be labeled is a creep or you know

02:04:22.280 something even worse than that so like a lot of you know back in the day you know maybe you said some

02:04:29.000 dumb shit whatever that was it you know uh now it's like oh man if i say the wrong thing or if i'm

02:04:35.960 even perceived maybe i think i'm like doing everything okay but maybe the perception is oh i startled her a

02:04:43.560 little bit like i she got startled when i approached now she thinks i'm creepy she thought i was gonna

02:04:48.040 like stab her or some shit i was just trying to ask for a number i don't know so a lot of guys are kind

02:04:53.800 of concerned about uh it's a good point it's a good no about approaching no i'm just the like for

02:05:03.160 example so there was a famous tick tock i don't know if it was a year ago some girl lost her fucking

02:05:08.200 shit it went viral and she was like a guy tried to approach me during the daytime in the parking

02:05:15.720 lot of some shopping mall and she didn't make any suggestions that he was trying to attack her or

02:05:24.680 anything she just said he was vaguely creepy right and i'll i'll agree there are men who are acting

02:05:31.560 creepy ways but like there is some concern here like it what is sometimes the difference between

02:05:40.600 behavior like the determination for what's creepy is it how attractive the guy is now i want to be

02:05:48.680 clear i think that there are things that are whether you're the most attractive man in the world or the

02:05:53.880 ugliest that are just clearly creepy across the board but i do think women will make a

02:05:59.000 uh a interpretation of a scenario the exact same behavior if done by a guy who they find attractive

02:06:09.000 is going to be deemed like flirting whereas if it's a guy you're not attracted to or who's ugly

02:06:14.440 you're gonna be like whoa that was really creepy uncomfortable right so i think there's a component

02:06:21.080 there too yeah yeah i agree with that yeah i agree with that fully i think i just had this conversation

02:06:27.480 with my ceo about this because it was like what's the difference between stalker behavior and like

02:06:32.440 actually approaching and his whole point was it doesn't matter as long as like if they're attractive

02:06:37.320 nobody cares um and i think that that's 100 truth i mean i've definitely had attractive people be

02:06:45.320 creepy sure for sure like a lot honestly so yeah uh going back to the notes abigail last one for you

02:06:53.640 you you said you're tired tired of social media telling people how their relationship should be

02:06:58.040 if the two communicate on what they want need there shouldn't be outside influence was this

02:07:02.040 does this kind of relate to some of the like the boundaries when it comes to like bars clubs or was

02:07:06.520 it something else i was just more meaning of i feel like social media tells you how your relationship

02:07:12.200 should be um you see all these videos of these couples and what they're doing and it's like

02:07:16.760 i feel like there's just a lot of comparing and a lot of judgment on oh my we do this in my

02:07:22.840 relationship and someone being like you shouldn't do that i guess it's just hard because more people

02:07:26.840 are posting online about their relationships and other people are judging it okay going to uh i broke

02:07:35.160 your now lib libby what is your yeah okay just go with lib you have a uh let's see you said the

02:07:41.160 prevalence of dating apps and social media has led to unrealistic appearance standards it is commonly one of the

02:07:46.360 the most important aspects of a relationship and it plays into the grass is always greener on the other

02:07:50.920 side falsehoods now when you say this do you think this applies more to men or women honestly i think

02:07:57.480 it applies to both both okay yeah i agree yeah perhaps in different ways but obviously because men

02:08:05.480 and women have different preferences when it comes to physical traits but i tend to agree with you you said

02:08:11.240 once a man offered you lean on a first date now my question is did you accept did you nickname

02:08:17.880 uh unfortunately did not accept can you explain some of the viewers might not know what lean is can

02:08:22.200 you explain what the lean is so i've never had lean for any of the viewers but i think that it's cough syrup

02:08:27.960 sprite and a jolly rancher right okay that's what the rappers drink right yeah it's like the triple drink

02:08:34.920 when really so it's cough syrup basically okay yeah he just had it in a little small and you didn't

02:08:40.200 accept it no was it love at first sight though you're like wow he's drinking lean and i love this

02:08:45.560 well we started out on the date and he was telling me about like oh i'm on house arrest and i was like

02:08:49.880 how the hell did i get myself here you gotta do a little screening before yeah yeah i know i should do

02:08:55.480 better um where'd you find him at the mouth exactly he came to my restaurant oh when i was

02:09:01.160 still serving you didn't wait so if he's on house arrest does he have that was my question yeah i don't

02:09:05.720 know how he got out of the house that's romantic you said you wanted to talk about deal breakers

02:09:13.800 when searching for partners so why don't you tell us what are some deal breakers okay okay my deal

02:09:19.560 breakers i would say are when people don't care about their families or like have very strong

02:09:26.360 family core values i think that just makes a really wishy-washy person when they don't have that okay

02:09:31.640 all right then i think that's pretty reasonable maybe we'll get into some deal breakers for the

02:09:35.560 other people later on in the show uh why don't we continue on with the notes though why don't we go

02:09:39.720 to liz that's you right just double checking here uh you said you're a dancer of your dancer of

02:09:45.560 model full-time mom four four kids four four fathers uh you said you had two restraining orders

02:09:52.040 on your ex is that baby daddy number one or which one is that two two number two okay you had two

02:09:57.960 restraining orders yeah good times do you still have those are they still active no we're actually

02:10:02.440 we co-parent now like so great it was romantic it was a very toxic toxic relationship um and i

02:10:16.120 had really toxic upbringing so i guess like i chased loved over like what i deserved more i put the

02:10:23.000 other person first so i put up with a lot when it came to the men in my life um uh were you i noticed

02:10:31.240 you had a spider web tattoo on your uh the side of your temple um were you like affiliated with no um

02:10:40.920 um when i was younger i ran with a pretty rough crowd um but the spider web so i rescue reptiles and

02:10:51.480 like animals like spiders and stuff like that so yeah yeah okay so that the tattoo the spot it's about

02:11:00.360 cute it's about you rescue reptiles it wasn't for that but i just think it's cute oh okay cool uh

02:11:07.480 you said that uh oh have you done any other kind of uh s work besides stripping no um no oh you do

02:11:16.600 do only fans do you do bg content with the people i've been with i haven't just gone out and like

02:11:23.880 i've never had a one night stand so i don't like go out and film with people that i'm i guess not in a

02:11:30.600 relationship with i've had one person i filmed with regularly but he was one of my really close

02:11:36.040 friends how many people have you the bg content with any of your baby's fathers yeah that's so

02:11:43.800 yeah i've done it with um my the baby the last baby's dad and then prior to that was one that my

02:11:50.920 friend that also did of what's bg boy girl content okay so wait your friend that also did yeah so he did

02:12:00.440 of and we'd been friends for years but we collabed a few times because we didn't have anybody else i

02:12:06.120 guess to how many different men have you done bg content with for only fans yeah two two okay um you

02:12:13.160 said though uh any escorting no no escorting okay uh you said you disagree with the outlook on s work

02:12:20.760 and you would love to share that not everyone that does it wants to yeah so me being a single mom i am

02:12:27.720 very traditional and i know we're gonna probably have fights about this on the podcast hold on wait

02:12:33.560 you're very traditional very traditional there wait hold on say it one more time i am very traditional

02:12:40.120 with my my views you're which which ones so

02:12:48.200 with my okay so with my relationships um i didn't expect to have four baby daddies i didn't go out of my

02:12:55.320 way to do that um i was with by the third one though okay you know you know then it's kind of

02:13:02.280 like the third one i was supposed to have my tubes tied with my daughter the third one was i was hooking

02:13:09.240 up with someone i've known for years and it happened and just happened it happened just i went to go get

02:13:15.960 my tubes tied after my son my doctor's license got pulled he skipped town and then i went to my new

02:13:23.320 doctor to sign like to sign the waiver for my tubes and they were like you can't you're pregnant

02:13:27.480 oh good times so good times but hold on really wait traditional yeah but you do porn you strip

02:13:41.240 i don't want to be doing those things at all but you know it's kind of like a vegan i'm a vegan but i

02:13:48.200 eat meat but i still eat meat a couple times a week you know what i mean but i but i want to not

02:13:54.680 eat meat it's not that it's if i wasn't dancing right now or doing of i wouldn't be able to support

02:14:02.600 my kids oh um the only reason i started dancing was because in november my daughter has a brain cyst

02:14:09.320 and is losing all mobility and phoenix children's hospital is no longer helping

02:14:13.880 um so i have to get her to boston she's a medical mystery right now um i'm sorry and then on top of

02:14:21.960 that i'm also raising three kids with autism so i homeschool i have up to five six doctor's

02:14:29.240 appointments a day with these kids i don't have time for a nine to five but i have to still support

02:14:34.840 my kids really well there's a bunch of problems with what you just said like one okay so you have

02:14:43.160 an of why is it a requirement that you do bg content on the of if the if you're it makes me the

02:14:50.680 most money right because it's about money right so the the thing is is uh what was the timeline

02:14:58.040 with last time you did bg content to the time you started stripping um i honestly haven't been active

02:15:03.160 on my only fans for probably the past six seven months after me and my kids dad split up i haven't

02:15:09.800 been making content so this was before then you knew that um that one of your children needed to

02:15:17.320 have this extensive care from boston so the thing is is like you were still doing the non-traditional

02:15:22.120 stuff before you started the stripping for the money yeah i was but it was with the person that i

02:15:28.040 planned on marrying why would that make it traditional like oh i plan on marrying you so

02:15:34.440 i'm going to go do a porn with you that's how's that traditional that's we needed extra money for

02:15:38.680 the kids at the time when we started it he has three kids of his own i was basically wait wait wait

02:15:45.320 i was basically raising seven kids okay and he has a job i take it yeah he makes great money but it

02:15:53.800 wasn't enough and i also we need we needed the extra money have you considered other jobs like

02:16:01.080 photography or real estate like i mean realtors make great money i don't have time to go to real

02:16:08.600 estate school i don't my time is consumed by my kids and then when i go and dance it is i

02:16:16.360 go in at six seven eight o'clock at night and work until three four o'clock in the morning and get my

02:16:20.840 kids back at five can i say something um with with dancing like honestly it is super flexible

02:16:26.920 you can um choose how many days a week you work you can make a lot of money in a short period of

02:16:32.520 time so i definitely get where you're coming from i needed i needed the fastest you can do that with

02:16:37.320 a sales job too true but you can't just you can't just really hop into sales like real estate is

02:16:44.440 really easy you know an online course and then you you schedule your own show yes i mean there's

02:16:50.280 definitely other options out there but i was just interjecting aren't you selling your body i mean

02:16:54.680 yeah technically it's still sales but i mean in a more professional setting usually you can't just like

02:16:59.640 walk in and be like give me the job in sales you can when my commission sales commission sales work

02:17:04.680 exactly i mean i've never done if you guys have some ideas send them my way because like if one of my

02:17:10.120 my two-year-old is severe so when he has a bad day i can make that choice of oh i'm just not going to

02:17:15.240 go into work tonight i can't what's the situation with the the baby daddies do they not give you any

02:17:20.760 child support and why not no so the oldest son my oldest son is his dad's the only one that's on

02:17:26.280 child support and he's thirty thousand dollars in debt with child support um my daughter's dad

02:17:34.280 doesn't pay anything but he's also 50 50 with my daughter um and i don't necessarily believe if

02:17:41.000 they're active in my kids life why are they paying child support because because they created a child

02:17:47.400 i understand but he's supporting that child at his house and not only that if don't you think your

02:17:52.200 children would rather have their fathers pay you child support than you promote your body online

02:17:57.320 my kids don't know well they will one day one day but also if i need anything for my daughter he does

02:18:03.320 help but right now my daughter is who i'm trying to get to boston and so me and her dad are both saving up

02:18:09.880 to do that can i make a suggestion why would you wait why would you need to save up if you have that

02:18:14.600 many kids would you be on like medicaid or something like that so with it being in boston insurance she's

02:18:20.040 on access insurance doesn't cover out of state and they don't have like programs to i'm looking i have

02:18:27.720 looked at every program i'm actually looking at like a flying program right now for her that's gonna

02:18:32.120 like hopefully pay for the flight out there but she could be needing back surgery she could be

02:18:37.400 needing brain surgery we don't know i'm really sorry to hear that um so i don't know exactly what

02:18:43.800 your daughter has but when you said back surgery i don't know if you've looked into shriner's hospitals

02:18:48.520 for kids they i have a metal spine um they did my entire scoliosis surgery when i was a teenager for

02:18:56.760 free and covered like the brace the care after everything they do take on cases it's just something

02:19:03.560 to look into because it would it i mean by the way how do you know that your two-year-old has autism

02:19:10.600 he got diagnosed how do you get how do you get diagnosed with autism at two we took him to access

02:19:16.520 for autism after so my oldest son got diagnosed this year he was in another mental hospital

02:19:22.040 um and they had me test my other kids they my baby at the time was too little they had me test my

02:19:29.400 my my daughter and then they had me test my one year old at the time and he got diagnosed with severe

02:19:35.080 and he's been diagnosed with by two different facilities at two years old at one you're all

02:19:40.680 one and a half when he got diagnosed oh what symptoms did your kids present that made you feel

02:19:47.640 like you needed to seek that diagnosis so with my oldest i always kind of knew um how but he would do

02:19:54.520 like self-harm injuries at what age did this start around one where he would be the self-harm

02:20:01.720 at one around like yeah because my baby punches herself in the head all the time and me in the

02:20:06.120 face and that's i wouldn't i wouldn't claim that as autism or i wouldn't think that that was an

02:20:10.440 autistic that's i didn't say that he did those things like the head banging he does uh he did um

02:20:16.600 the not being able to calm him down the biting the it there was certain things that particularly like

02:20:23.880 lining things up in a specific way he wouldn't play with the toys but tear them apart and try

02:20:29.720 to put them back together examining things so with my oldest i knew um he didn't get diagnosed until

02:20:36.200 seven years old um my daughter i honestly didn't think she would get diagnosed but she did um she's a

02:20:42.840 level one so she's highest on the spectrum uh my baby was doing the same thing my oldest did so

02:20:48.600 my two-year-old he was head banging he he is severe so right now he's non-verbal he doesn't

02:20:54.600 point he doesn't make eye contact he doesn't respond to his name he doesn't i'm sorry how old is he he's

02:20:59.480 two now he's two um do you do you or the father present autistic traits as well so they i am actually

02:21:06.520 diagnosed with um borderline of course and when i was talking to their doctor they said i was probably

02:21:13.000 misdiagnosed and it was probably i probably have autism which now that i'm i look i look more into

02:21:20.200 it i can see the line coming down my family where i was probably the one that passed it especially

02:21:25.160 because they have different dads that makes sense

02:21:32.360 is autism genetic what is it is autism genetic all the time or just or it can be they're still

02:21:39.880 studying it they usually say it's off the dad's side but given the kids do have different dads

02:21:44.680 they said it's most likely coming from my side of the family can i ask you a question i'm not assuming

02:21:49.160 i'm just curious are your kids vaccinated childhood vaccines okay we can't dive into that stuff oh not

02:21:58.920 on the show just a question yeah youtube doesn't like it oh okay okay can i ask you a question about

02:22:08.360 dancing does it like diminish your self-worth at all like does it make you like feel less of yourself

02:22:14.920 a hundred percent i feel absolutely disgusting doing it um it is making me great money it is

02:22:22.600 really fast easy money but there's times where i'll be sitting at work and i look around i'm like

02:22:28.600 what am i doing here because i know i am so so much more than being in that club and

02:22:33.560 this is no offense i know you dance but i i hate when i hear dancers say i have no problem doing it

02:22:41.560 because it's like even aren't you coping a little bit by calling them dancers what is it aren't you

02:22:48.920 kind of coping already by calling them dancers i mean it's respectful like what are they actually

02:22:53.880 it's just like a proper term i mean when you're referring i guess you don't really go i mean i don't

02:22:58.760 really like to grow around nobody calls them dancers they they only one who wants to be called

02:23:02.840 the dancer is the stripper right that's the one who wants to be called the dancer the truth is is

02:23:08.200 that they're strippers i only say it just because that's even by the way that's even more accurate

02:23:13.400 because you could be in the club and stripping without doing any dancing whatsoever no dancing

02:23:19.080 required at all you can just take your clothes off minus any dancing that's why it's a way more

02:23:25.000 accurate term actually i am probably the worst stripper because i work in a club that you're not

02:23:31.400 allowed to show any you have to wear pasties you can't show anything on the bottom i won't take my top

02:23:37.800 off i won't take off my bottoms i will sit there and dance but i'm not going to show you anything i

02:23:42.360 don't care how much money you are going to give me and i still make great money doing it so i guess in

02:23:47.880 that terminology i am a dancer because i'm not taking off my clothes oh but you do only fans yes you are

02:23:54.520 definitely taking off your clothes what are you talking about while i'm sitting there dancing

02:23:58.920 i'm not am i walking around in skimpy lingerie a hundred percent but i'm i'm not sitting there

02:24:03.640 taking off my top on the pole okay so you don't take them off and then it shows the pasties ever

02:24:10.440 that doesn't happen that's not part of your show no i'm honestly i'm insecure about my chest too so

02:24:17.560 no yeah and none of the other girls in the club do that i mean the girls that i work with do yeah

02:24:27.720 so it's strip they're strippers right they're strippers i mean yeah you're at a ship yeah they're

02:24:33.320 strippers just not you you're not the you're the only not i mean i'm technically a stripper i get it

02:24:37.720 i get it i'm just saying it's but it's definitely not coke it's not coke right because you wear pasties

02:24:43.880 and stuff so therefore you know and you don't have you don't technically take the top off you

02:24:49.240 just already have the top taken off so technically it's not stripping right so okay i get it it just

02:24:56.040 just sounds a little bit like coke to me that's all why why is there a difference between not exposing

02:25:01.320 yourself at the strip club but um doing it on only fans like what can you tell me the difference

02:25:06.280 between the two platforms so why do you feel like in one in one department you can do this and the other

02:25:13.000 you're full out doing porn on the on the internet like what's the difference between the two

02:25:18.280 honestly it's the in person the more i feel more um vulnerable at the club because i can get

02:25:26.840 touched i can't you know what i mean it's just it's more vulnerable risk and it's a hundred percent

02:25:31.400 like the same as like i'm more comfortable on the internet because you're in control it's just the

02:25:37.480 internet you know what i mean well it's not just the internet well no but it's forever

02:25:41.400 not in person it's it's less intimate can i add something um with in person too i guess you have

02:25:49.160 to put what do you be more personal what do you mean it's less in it how can it be less intimate if

02:25:54.680 you're fucking a dude on the camera how is that well you're getting intimate with you're being in the

02:25:59.560 random people question hang on hang on how could it be less intimate to be fucking a dude on a camera

02:26:08.360 and then disseminate that to the public than it is to walk through a strip club with pasties on like

02:26:14.280 what how's that less how's that less intimate i'd rather fuck a dude on the internet than fuck a dude

02:26:20.840 in a room of 300 different people it's less i don't feel like all of the eyes are on me is what i'm saying

02:26:27.400 yeah but how can i be less intimate than stripping well because when you're stripping you're getting

02:26:33.880 intimate with people you don't know when you're making a video on only fans it's with someone you

02:26:38.200 know right so getting intimate and getting close to people who are just random strangers is obviously

02:26:43.080 a lot different than someone you yeah but there's still going to be degrees to it you're saying

02:26:47.320 when you're talking about intimacy you personally knowing the person or not knowing the person has

02:26:51.960 nothing to do with the degree of intimacy well we're talking about having sex with the person versus

02:26:57.080 not having sex with them right because it's a lot easier to have somebody just send me a message back

02:27:03.480 than me be at work and talking to somebody and him grab my ass or him touch me it's i feel safer

02:27:08.760 on the internet yes it's not just the internet because it's it's there forever i'm never going

02:27:12.920 to get rid of that and i'm fully aware of that but when it comes down to it it's i'm hiding behind

02:27:18.200 a screen versus in person you can also control your responses your you know think about what you're

02:27:24.280 going to say whereas in person like you have facial reactions body language to think about

02:27:29.720 and like sometimes you know you just blurt things out without really thinking whereas on your phone

02:27:35.560 you know you have time to sit there and think before you send a message okay to be to be totally

02:27:40.680 blunt i'm just going to put this as bluntly as i possibly can if you're if a guy is putting his penis

02:27:47.720 inside of you on camera how could that not possibly be more intimate than walking around

02:27:54.040 the strip of pasties on i'm not talking about safety i'm not asking about your safety concerns

02:27:58.760 well i'm not talking about walking around more you feel more or less safe right i'm saying how

02:28:03.560 could it possibly be that this is a less intimate act than the other one how it wasn't that it was a

02:28:09.080 less intimate act it's it's exactly what i said before i'm hiding behind a screen it's easier to do

02:28:15.640 stuff on the internet just like there's keyboard warriors and people would say stuff on the internet

02:28:20.440 they'd never say in person i would never sit there and fuck somebody in person in a room full

02:28:27.160 of 300 people that are watching me but on the internet it's a lot easier to do it hiding behind

02:28:31.080 a screen i mean but but wait but wouldn't you though like if the money was right no i wouldn't

02:28:36.920 because you wouldn't well why not because you wouldn't do any of this except it was for money

02:28:40.840 right no so why so why is it that you why is it that you would draw the line there between like

02:28:45.960 oh now there's a live viewership with a million dollars versus the strip club paycheck of 3 000

02:28:51.560 in the night or whatever it is why would you delineate uh based on money if that's what the

02:28:56.360 entire motivation is anyway why i understand that's what my motivation is but i could never

02:29:02.200 fuck somebody for money i yes you literally can and my me already fucking wait you literally have

02:29:10.040 fuck dudes for money i don't know like you don't really like the whole point of only only fans but it's

02:29:14.680 somebody that i've had kids with and i've already been in a long-term relationship if somebody is

02:29:19.560 going to sit there and hand me 300 and be like fuck me i wouldn't do it a million dollars i wouldn't

02:29:25.160 do it but if i'm already going to sit there and sleep with my kids's dad and i'm already that's not

02:29:29.880 wait wait wait you didn't just sleep with your kid's dad stop stop coping you also slept with another

02:29:37.160 only fans creator who was not your kid's dad in exchange for what medium of currency

02:29:45.160 honestly i probably would have fucked him either way i just thought

02:29:49.560 wait did you fuck him before you made the content with him yes oh okay so the thing is is uh as long

02:29:56.200 as and so as long as i can give you a guy you would ordinarily fuck uh then it's okay to have the

02:30:02.120 cameras on you probably oh okay honestly all we're also all we're really doing is establishing price

02:30:10.520 in conditions right i mean if i'm already going to be sleeping with them and i'm making if i could

02:30:15.240 make money off of it there's no issue ogle donated two hundred dollars i'll fly you guys to boston if

02:30:21.640 that's genuinely the only thing keeping you from trying another career and you don't like the one

02:30:26.680 you're in brian can connect us after the show if that's the case she's got four kids bro that's

02:30:32.280 a lot of flights no it's just a lot of flights it's just me and my daughter and honestly if you can

02:30:36.600 fly me out and my daughter out to boston i'll quit dancing and quit doing only fans i'll delete it has to

02:30:41.720 be you have to sign the contract that's fine to that effect 100 to fly out so he just has to fly

02:30:47.880 you you and your daughter to boston yeah hotel hotel or i'd stay in the hospital with my daughter

02:30:53.960 i'll give you a couple hundred dollars myself oh look at that so if i can oh beautiful get the

02:30:58.840 flight to boston easy i'll quit dancing and i'll quit doing only fans please give me a reason to stop

02:31:04.200 wait where are you living right now i'm in phoenix arizona it has to be permanent

02:31:07.960 what yeah that's fine you have to make a permanent no sex work i will sign a contract

02:31:14.440 ogle draft up the con ogle we'll fuck it we'll have her sign that shit in studio on camera

02:31:19.000 that would be amazing ogle have have your attorney draft that shit up or just draft that shit up

02:31:24.120 yourself send it to the whatever instagram we'll have her sign the contract and uh yeah ogle donated

02:31:30.440 two hundred dollars zero percent simping here just to be clear but if that's what's in the way of a

02:31:36.520 solid life going forward then lfg yeah yo any lawyers in the chat who want to volunteer no this

02:31:42.040 is ogle you're stupid ogle stop ogle she's gonna sign the contract prostitutes to stop being

02:31:47.480 fucking prostitutes it's like what well i mean it's for her daughter i think you're doing a great

02:31:56.520 the only reason i'm doing this is to get to boston i would love to get to boston you were doing this before

02:32:03.080 boston was even a thing we already went over this yeah but i was not dancing before boston was even

02:32:08.600 a thing you were already humping dudes for money on the internet what are you talking about what's

02:32:13.720 the trip to boston cost you like what is what is the dollar value that you're trying to achieve to

02:32:18.120 be able to do this all right ogle send us a dm ogle send us a dm we'll get to figure out um

02:32:25.160 hold on let's get back to the let's get back to the nuts here so um you said you disagree with the

02:32:29.880 outlook on sex work did did you get into that so far what was i mean i know you guys you and andrea

02:32:35.720 have just been discussing it for the past 20 minutes but what do you when you say you disagree

02:32:40.280 with the outlook on sex work what do you mean i exactly what i said before where i don't think

02:32:46.360 anybody that's actively doing it likes doing it mm-hmm okay i mean there are some women who

02:32:55.480 are dgens and they do like doing it though deep down i don't i don't agree with that but there's

02:33:01.240 just like some dgens i also don't agree with people that are dancing and doing of content and everything

02:33:07.080 being called prostitutes because in the end of the day you don't know why i'm doing it you don't know

02:33:12.760 what's causing me to do this like i said if i can get my daughter to boston i'll quit doing all of it

02:33:17.080 right now i absolutely hate doing it why would that matter it's nice that you disagree with the term

02:33:23.320 prostitution right it's nice that you disagree with that but that doesn't mean it's not prostitution

02:33:29.720 right you're just saying i prostitute myself and i have a noble aspiration or noble motivation

02:33:35.720 okay i can concede that you can do a bad thing with noble intentions right i can concede that that

02:33:41.960 is true that you prostitute for what you consider to be a noble intention but let us not mince words

02:33:48.440 it is indeed prostitution so when i stop doing it am i still going to be labeled the prostitute

02:33:53.320 ex no you're going to be labeled as a woman who engaged in prostitution likely see i don't like

02:34:00.120 that so you know you can't put it like you can't put it back i don't get to be like well i stopped

02:34:04.920 murdering right does that mean i don't get labeled as somebody who's not a murderer it's like no

02:34:10.920 unfortunately um you don't get your you don't get a new reputation like it doesn't you can build you

02:34:17.800 can build well okay you can build a new reputation right but just the stopping of an activity

02:34:23.160 it doesn't give you a new reputation i think it's the term i i understand what i'm doing and i hate

02:34:29.400 that it had to get to the point of me doing this because i i hate being considered one i hate that

02:34:36.680 i am one it's disgusting many women who've had the culmination of circumstances in which they've

02:34:43.080 ended up with children out of wedlock including with multiple parents or multiple fathers of those

02:34:49.320 children okay uh many women have been in that situation and have not prostituted themselves so

02:34:56.200 the thing is is like you can't say that the culmination of your choices which ended in you

02:35:01.640 making the decision to make yet another bad one is the responsibility of anybody except you i understand

02:35:08.200 that yeah so i mean i don't know why you you why do you take issue with the term prostitution it's

02:35:14.360 embarrassing like i'm going to be very blunt with you you are a prostitute i understand that probably

02:35:20.120 doesn't feel great to hear but it is in fact the truth and i understand that but it's

02:35:27.320 me being a mother and me doing this because i have to make it for my kids like i hate the fact that

02:35:36.040 i i hate the fact that i am one i guess it is hard hearing but it's it's embarrassing for

02:35:41.640 not only myself but my kids how long have you been dancing yes i've only been dancing for three

02:35:46.520 months just just like look you ready for this stop doing it you've only been dancing for that

02:35:52.520 that's that's the way to go and of for how long um like a year how long have you known about your

02:35:59.960 daughter's brain surgery that she needs so can pull it up she's been hospitalized multiple times

02:36:08.520 over the past two years but we found out about the brain says we have been fighting with the

02:36:14.360 children's hospital for the past two years we finally got confirmation that they couldn't help

02:36:18.920 her in november and then shortly after that i started dancing i just want to add something that um

02:36:26.760 just just to let you know i i'm i have a very pro-life stance so i think it's admirable that you went

02:36:31.800 and you had these children i believe children's are the ultimate blessing um and being a mother is the

02:36:37.560 main purpose that i seek in life uh i think your choices are poor but i disagree with andrew that

02:36:45.160 you can't become new again because i believe in my christian faith that you absolutely can be

02:36:49.560 renewed with jesus and not anybody on this what i said wait that is not what i said well you know you

02:36:56.440 said that you're always hang on hang on and even if she accepts the redemption of faith of jesus christ

02:37:02.200 our lord and savior it's still not going to buy her a new reputation you can pretend all you want that

02:37:07.160 it will right she'll be renewed in her face renewed in her soul and she'll be renewed in spirit it does

02:37:13.800 not buy you a new reputation any more than it bought jeffrey dahmer a new reputation when he converted you

02:37:21.000 can't compare murder to sex work that doesn't make sense thank you for making the distinction but when

02:37:27.720 i was what i was trying to do you know what an analogy is yes that was a horrible analogy anything any

02:37:34.200 comparison that i make between two things which are different are always going to be different from

02:37:38.440 each other that's why we analogize so that we can make a comparison i'm not saying she's a murderer

02:37:42.920 but that's not i'm not saying that what she's doing is equal in moral weight as murder then i'm just

02:37:47.880 making a simple analogy that your reputation as a murderer doesn't go away because you stop murdering

02:37:52.920 any more than your reputation of having been a prostitute goes away because you you stop being a

02:37:57.960 prostitute if you can tell me how that's incorrect i'd like to hear it now

02:38:05.480 no it's not incorrect but the like i appreciate you clarifying and making that distinction but what

02:38:10.600 i was just trying to tell you is that um what you're doing today it doesn't determine your worth

02:38:16.360 going forward you can stop doing what you're doing and there's not anyone on this panel or any

02:38:21.640 one of your viewers that is going to tell you what you're worth i believe we're all equal when you say

02:38:26.600 worth what do you mean i mean her soul like what okay but let me ask you a question could a christian

02:38:32.040 man make a determination that he doesn't want to date her of course of course absolutely because of

02:38:36.760 her past actions yes and what is he basing that on her past he's basing that on her reputation so

02:38:44.680 the thing is is like look it is true that we all need salvation right and it's one of the best

02:38:50.440 motivators in the world to stop sinful activities but i'm also not going to bullshit you and tell you

02:38:56.440 that that you the your reputation won't precede you because it does and by the way if the whole

02:39:01.400 point of the salvation is to get a new reputation in the first place you probably shouldn't be moving

02:39:05.800 towards christianity because that's not what it's for it's not there to buy you a reputation

02:39:09.640 that's not what it's there for you don't exchange the soul for reputation that's the antithesis of what

02:39:14.840 christian ethics is but you can be forgiven in christianity for yes and move forward

02:39:20.920 yes but forgiveness itself does not erase the things that you have done a hundred percent

02:39:28.280 it doesn't not a world not in a worldly respect not in a worldly perspective but in a spiritual

02:39:33.160 perspective you can become yes

02:39:40.920 okay uh let's see here um going back to your notes uh we talked about the whole trying to get

02:39:47.960 to boston thing uh you say not all yeah not all sexers want to do sex work i mean andrew

02:39:57.880 that's a good point right jesus forgave judas but judas reputation is as what what's judas's

02:40:04.200 reputation the betrayer right then like you literally will call a person a judas if they

02:40:10.520 stab you in the back right that's the whole point so like even that the forgiveness is there

02:40:16.200 right but it you know the thing is like the reputation is what it is you have kids correct

02:40:25.080 you would do absolutely anything for the kids especially if they were sick

02:40:28.920 no i wouldn't do anything i would do things within the confines of the ethical purview of christianity

02:40:34.120 for my children okay anything is asking for that's a tall order that's asking for something that is uh

02:40:40.440 uh like would i compromise my ethical standards for my kids to some degree probably right but i

02:40:47.560 would i wouldn't uh like there would be limits that i would put on that would you start an only

02:40:52.520 fans andrew like oh andrew you know would you would you strip maybe maybe if the compromise was like

02:41:01.400 so this is a this is a hard conundrum right within the ethical purview so i just want to answer as

02:41:05.880 honestly as i can um like if there was gun to one of my kids heads we're gonna pull it if you don't

02:41:12.840 start an only family yeah i probably would then under duress right under that sort of extreme duress

02:41:19.000 but if it was something like there's a monetary objective which there's a possibility to reach

02:41:26.040 in any other way than this particular one that's for the health and welfare of my children then i would

02:41:31.880 obviously go for any of those in which uh were not conducive to sin that would be what my primary

02:41:38.040 goal would be right so the thing is is like i don't think i think you can in this sense in the ethical

02:41:43.800 sense kind of have your cake and eat it too i think you can do both andrew let me ask you a question

02:41:48.840 let's say in some i mean this almost is her scenario at least as she describes it almost is a

02:41:55.320 the hypothetical scenario i'm going to give you she's attempted other avenues uh say other avenues

02:42:02.680 have been attempted and exhausted a mother who loves her children needs to pay for a health care

02:42:09.160 procedure otherwise the child's life may be at risk in order to do so she does sex work and then quits

02:42:17.800 immediately thereafter after the medical scenario has been resolved yeah do you give any quarter then or

02:42:24.840 even then if it comes at the potential yes of course of course that would be that would completely

02:42:30.120 change the way that the situation was viewed of course it would the problem is is in this situation

02:42:36.040 she was doing prostitution before such medical condition was known to her when i was paying for

02:42:41.800 my children's therapies before they got on ddd yeah no there's other ways to pay for therapy like

02:42:47.640 i have a child who has autism and uh guess what i never had i never went and stripped right instead i went

02:42:54.280 and got this thing that we like to call a job and uh and i went and worked at it really really really

02:43:00.360 hard and it couldn't come up with ends meet most months somehow still managed and she's thriving who

02:43:06.280 watches your kids while you work it's hard out there i know but but i did it who watches your kids while

02:43:11.080 you work my wife okay so me not having a significant other and you guys are really against like other

02:43:17.560 people raising your kids correct no it's situational like when you're talking about optimums you're

02:43:24.440 talking about what is optimal you can't always reach what is optimal like the idea if you're a

02:43:29.160 single mom and you're going to have to have babysitting like that is that's going to be a necessity

02:43:35.080 right is it optimal no but being a single mom in the first place isn't often we're already out of

02:43:39.880 that situation right and i was like what we don't what we don't want to find is like compounding

02:43:44.680 situations with more and more bad decisions that's the point of it and i would absolutely love to have

02:43:50.040 people babysit my kids but with me not having much of my at all any of my family's help and the only

02:43:56.200 person that i do have helping me is my daughter's dad and my baby's dad um me finding a babysitter

02:44:03.000 child care in phoenix is extremely expensive which i would expensive everywhere yeah so that's almost out

02:44:09.400 of the question but you also get tons and tons of social welfare and all sorts of things which

02:44:15.000 are handed to you i'm not on welfare i'm applying assistance hang on including assistance with child

02:44:20.360 care which that is the case even in phoenix and i'm sure i can look it up right now and i'm sure that

02:44:25.480 that is the case that you will get uh some sort of financial aid when it comes to babysitting

02:44:31.880 go ahead what's your question um

02:44:33.800 um i'm not judging you i think everybody should do you know what makes them happy what but um

02:44:41.080 even drug dealers anyways i think that's a valid question but go ahead go ahead was that a question

02:44:48.920 or a statement i think it was a question um a good option like that you can do that can make you a lot of

02:45:00.040 money is live streaming i mean tick tock bego all those things i'll let you guys talk about that

02:45:04.840 after the show though i mean we can find her solutions let's just something i wanted to put

02:45:09.880 out there all right okay thing is is like i don't know like every situation is different and all

02:45:17.640 situations should be appraised based on the situation's merit itself there's all sorts of

02:45:22.920 people who are in terrible situations that are not of their own doing and trying to make the best of

02:45:27.560 it i get that i understand that and i also understand that there can be social stigma applied

02:45:32.440 to people that unfairly so because they're in situations other people normally put themselves in

02:45:39.240 because they don't care or they don't give a shit or they're just bad people i get that right but in

02:45:44.920 this particular situation it does not actually appear that all avenues were exhausted but rather

02:45:51.320 that you were you're using this now as a standard for which to say i only do x activity which i consider

02:45:59.000 to be bad on behalf of my one of my children whereas before you were doing same said activity bad activity

02:46:07.560 before this thing bad was happening to that child so it's all right uh give me one the big give me

02:46:26.440 the big one the big one what is it what is this like legitimately okay wait like how are you not

02:46:36.680 supposed to get everything else wet though thank you

02:46:43.320 all right i'm gonna need some extra cups damien if you can get me those

02:46:53.720 much appreciated yo ogle thank you for the champagne pop man guys w's in the chat for our boy ogle here

02:46:59.800 coming in with some he's flying this chick out to freaking boston he's flying around the boston thank you

02:47:09.480 and he also popped a bowl of champagne so appreciate it uh andrew while i am uh opening this bottle and

02:47:17.720 i'm surely going to struggle for a couple minutes can can you ask them a question unrelated to uh stripping

02:47:27.960 yeah sure sure yeah it was uh i guess the the mood got a little bit heavy there we'll kind of bring

02:47:33.480 it back something later so um can we do some self-ratings brian oh lord what what i'm kind of

02:47:41.560 reading right now i was hoping just like a brief something else something breathe something else

02:47:47.880 self-rating wait what okay what like a one to ten scale yeah for what scale of what how hot you are

02:47:55.400 basically what what you think yeah he wants to say uh to save it so i guess i can ask tessa a couple

02:48:01.880 of questions uh is it is it tessa you're that's the engineer correct i'm reading my notes here yes

02:48:08.920 sir yeah it's a big panel so uh so bear with me okay uh so how did you get into writing uh software for

02:48:19.720 computers with mechanical engineering how did that how did that happen um i just did like a bunch of

02:48:26.760 interviews when i was looking for a job and then i had mechanical engineering internships but it just

02:48:32.920 wasn't as interesting to me i guess in software stuff i didn't know it so there's a big learning

02:48:38.200 curve and like it was just more interesting and also like to be straight up with you there's just

02:48:42.520 more money in software engineering than mechanical engineering as well so um well i don't i don't know

02:48:47.880 if that's the case but um okay well i mean that's what i do right so you do mechanical oh cool okay

02:48:57.880 robotics specifically oh no not on the almost on the camera oh my god the champagne popped bad news it's

02:49:11.240 on the floor it's on the floor it's on the floor everywhere that sounded like a mess wow wow is that

02:49:18.120 like all of it no there was a lot that was that was like half the bottle no it almost got on the

02:49:24.120 computer i'm like being so real oh it did get on it oh that pc just got champagne yeah i know for real

02:49:33.320 good deal uh yeah that's fine but yeah i was gonna ask you while he's uh while he's doing that i know

02:49:39.880 that it's difficult uh when there's other things going on but from the viewers aspect this the show

02:49:44.840 is still going right they don't they can't see brian they can't see any of that going so we can stick

02:49:49.320 here why is it though that if there's so much money in this that you work at a bowling alley um i don't

02:49:57.400 know i want to i have a student loan i need to pay off so i want some extra money um and i wanted

02:50:03.160 to become a server and then train at the bar so i'm training at the bar right now so that i can

02:50:07.880 bartend and i don't know i just wanted some extra money and i had extra time and i like to be busy

02:50:13.400 so and i have friends there i've made a lot of friends there so it's kind of fun so no overtime at

02:50:18.840 work does everybody want champagne everybody here is over 21 right yeah correct yeah that's fine but

02:50:27.960 thank you oh my god half the bottle's gone yeah i know guys so ogle uh this giant ball of champagne

02:50:36.360 half of it spilled out somehow uh some of it got on my three thousand dollar streaming setup oh it's all

02:50:44.760 your fault ogle i blame you and um that's pretty much been a real jerk this whole thing what a jerk

02:50:52.040 with his thousand dollars such a jerk oh it's getting it's uh yeah so anyways um thank you ogle

02:50:58.680 though appreciate it thank you thank you uh i'll get that poured out here in just a moment uh everybody

02:51:04.440 wants them or yeah i'll take a tiny tiny bit do you do you want any just a little bit so you're the

02:51:10.680 only person who doesn't want it i don't want to either no no no no everybody else a little bit

02:51:16.120 yeah just a little okay so i'll just say like 11 cups okay go ahead andrew go ahead i don't know

02:51:24.280 if she wants or not the one who's sitting here i think we'll just pass down yeah and then whoever

02:51:30.600 chooses it gets it okay go ahead andrew tell us something left yeah well no i was just i was just

02:51:37.960 curious um you know it's because you say that software engineering pays you a bunch they just

02:51:42.760 don't offer you any overtime there or what no i'm on salary um oh yeah i don't know i guess i

02:51:49.480 didn't think that deeply about it i just had extra time and i don't know i i don't know how long i

02:51:54.360 want to stick with engineering and so i kind of like to have a backup plan in case i want to switch

02:51:59.160 it up so yeah i have a question for you how long did you go to school to become a mechanical

02:52:04.440 engineer four years how many four four years yes sir yeah and you got a degree in mechanical

02:52:11.400 engineers yes sir okay can you can you get real close to the mic for me just real sorry yeah yeah

02:52:17.400 can you tell me what is a solenoid a solenoid yeah i'm trying to remember does it is it like us uh

02:52:27.480 uh uh uh current conductor i'm trying to remember i feel like this was circuits right

02:52:36.760 his face yeah okay okay um one one more one are you grabbing um can you can you describe for me

02:52:49.560 what is a sprocket a sprocket a sprocket oh i haven't worked with this stuff in a while um

02:53:02.760 honestly i don't really remember maybe you can give me some software questions or or math questions

02:53:08.440 maybe that'd be a little better i don't remember all the definitions i was just i was just curious

02:53:13.560 that's okay no worries uh cheers to ogle salut all right thank you ogle for the uh champagne pop i do

02:53:27.800 appreciate it uh sorry all right we have a super chat here from randon bradford you don't have to be

02:53:34.360 a corn model to get by in phoenix especially when you're a single parent with kids do you want to

02:53:38.680 respond to that quickly yeah and i am again like i've said attempting to get on the resources to

02:53:44.840 help with that it's a long process randon i appreciate your super chat thank you very much

02:53:50.120 uh okay moving on to the next person we have paula is that you that's me all right you said you don't

02:53:57.480 know if age matters that was because when i was applying for the show i wasn't sure if you had to be

02:54:05.640 younger to be on the show so that's why i said that oh you said i so you said i don't know if

02:54:09.720 age matters but i i can assure you i don't look 40. hey damien was struggling a bit too

02:54:18.760 you did eventually eventually after i thoroughly loosened it afterwards you did open it um so there is

02:54:27.880 that there is that so but thank you damien you know what i think it is is i've been leaving these

02:54:34.840 champagne bottles vertical and the cork dries out and i'm pretty sure that's why it makes

02:54:42.440 it difficult if you you're supposed to leave champagne on the side so the cork doesn't get

02:54:47.080 all dried out i did not know that yeah so i'm pretty sure you know that's why you see like wine bottles

02:54:52.920 and champagne bottles like in they're typically on their side so we've been storing them vertically

02:54:58.600 that's our mistake um okay so paula your notes though uh you can assure you don't look 40 okay

02:55:06.280 but you said no crazy stories no crazy dating stories other than a couple of guys who wanted to split

02:55:11.720 the cheap-ass bill lol well not i think about i do have a couple crazy dating stories but uh

02:55:18.840 i haven't had to worry about splitting the bill in a long time it's not really a part of my reality right

02:55:22.840 now what do you mean not a part of your reality because you're not i don't run into that no i do

02:55:26.840 but then you do date okay yeah when i date recently within the past two years no one ever they always

02:55:33.560 pay for the bill they don't expect me to chip in i don't really run into that issue anymore but in the

02:55:38.520 past i have but just from far as i can remember like one time um a guy asked me to go to the gym with

02:55:44.920 him it was a different gym a really nice one and um the day pass was 20 and he went ahead of me and he

02:55:51.800 only paid for his own i was like okay like you invited me to go to the gym with you and you can't

02:55:55.720 even pay 20 for my day pass so i was just like okay noted oh so he invited you to the gym you didn't

02:56:04.200 pay for your day pass was there a second date there was oh mm-hmm third date there was no no did you guys

02:56:14.120 do the jersey no no jersey i don't know wait so did he pay for the dates that came after the second

02:56:21.960 one was a drink he did pay for it the third one we went to a haunted house i invited him with my

02:56:27.720 friends and um he bought his own ticket and i bought my own ticket oh mm-hmm so it sounds like more like

02:56:35.640 like you guys are hanging out as friends then it was supposed well it was the intention was dating but uh

02:56:40.840 that's just how he is oh how what what is he some another girl at the gym went out with him too and

02:56:49.960 she said the same thing he's just not he's not really a gentleman oh you're not a gentleman if

02:56:54.840 you don't pay for correct did he like open your doors and stuff though i don't remember

02:57:00.200 why why does that make you not a gentleman

02:57:04.360 i just believe wholeheartedly in the masculine and feminine dynamic and i believe that men are the

02:57:10.120 ones who protect and provide men are the ones who pursue and i'm just really big on the traditional

02:57:14.600 gender role so i believe that a man should pay for a date what do women do what are women supposed to

02:57:19.880 do oh what do you mean like in a relationship or in a marriage without like three or four things well

02:57:25.320 women nurture so it depends on where you are in the relationship so you think that nurturing me is

02:57:30.520 means nothing that it's like yeah what does it mean it means it's raise the children and take care of the

02:57:35.000 children how many children do you have zero oh okay so just to be clear you received all the

02:57:41.880 traditional benefits throughout the entirety you're 40 you've had multiple boyfriends you've dated a

02:57:47.560 whole bunch of men you've received all the traditional benefits i haven't really but you have been treated

02:57:54.040 that well that i've received really much there's not much there's not much effort on the guy's part

02:57:59.080 what i'm saying is it depends on where you are in the relationship so if you're married with kids i

02:58:03.640 believe the men protect and provide i don't expect a man to pay my bills when i'm just dating him

02:58:08.920 but in a marriage that's that's what i expect and then the woman would be home take care of the

02:58:14.120 cleaning the laundry the cooking to take care of the children raise the children so i think that

02:58:19.880 when you get to that point the roles are different yeah what go ahead go ahead continue well that's a

02:58:28.680 big role for women do a lot in the household like that's a big okay that's a big role so here's the

02:58:35.160 thing though and it's an important one too that's cool but here's the thing that only starts so you're

02:58:40.760 saying women don't have any roles or duties or responsibilities prior to marriage or having kids

02:58:47.160 um i think in the beginning the men should be the ones to court and pursue a lady sure that's fine

02:58:57.080 right but what do women have to do absent some vague down the road maybe she'll have your kids because

02:59:06.680 the vast majority of first second third dates where men have paid it didn't lead to a relationship

02:59:12.360 it didn't lead to children so i would suspect that while this might be a future duty that you might

02:59:19.160 have as a woman what like what are you supposed to do as a woman early on well i don't think men should

02:59:28.840 be expecting something in return just because they paid for dates you're either a gentleman or you're not

02:59:35.000 oh i didn't i didn't i'm not making the suggestion that men are owed what are you what are you making

02:59:40.520 the suggestion that men are well we're spending time with you like we you ask us out on a date

02:59:45.560 well companionship so why do you ask a girl out same thing right so why every hour that you're there

02:59:51.000 i'm also there so what what are you doing as a woman that's different why what else do i need i

02:59:56.040 don't need to match his exact i'm not a man so i don't have to act like a man to be with a man

03:00:00.920 are you submissive in relationships i haven't been in a relationship in a while so when you were in

03:00:06.280 relationships they weren't really masculine i think yeah i mean i was pretty so you're the

03:00:12.280 arbiter of what's masculine why were you dating them then this is like 20 years ago i don't really

03:00:17.880 remember like i think it was pretty but don't you well back then i had a different mindset like back

03:00:22.920 then it was a little bit more equal like i i did pay for dates when i was dating these men back then

03:00:27.800 okay so i wouldn't say like you know i i guess i just find it interesting like you were able to

03:00:34.040 rapid fire out like three or four different things that men need to or should be doing

03:00:39.800 on the first date or at least early on in a relationship but when i just asked you the

03:00:45.400 simple question okay well what are women supposed to do it's just like i don't know we just you get

03:00:50.360 our presence it's like okay okay i'm saying men protect and provide many like if we're walking

03:00:58.600 along the sidewalk they walk on the outside of the sidewalk they just protect us why for safety

03:01:04.360 reasons why should men do that because a car can kill you just as well as he can kill him because

03:01:10.840 they're they're men and that's what men do men are the ones who that's what they do that's what they

03:01:15.800 do in their masculine energy they they protect women and children they stand up for people on the

03:01:21.880 first date you a man should protect you well in a way like like but you say he should walk on the

03:01:26.920 middle so on the first date the whole likes walking closer no it just means that he just like guides

03:01:32.120 me to the car and puts him his hand on the small of my back walks me to the car holds the door for

03:01:37.080 me it's just gentlemen it's just chivalry that's simply yeah that's cool but we're not getting into

03:01:40.600 fights he doesn't need to fight anyone for me i'm just saying it's just silver chivalrous that's fine

03:01:46.200 why does he need to walk on the inside the street on the outside of the street or the no the guy's

03:01:51.880 supposed to walk on the inside of the street no he walks on the outside where the cars are

03:01:55.400 that's what i mean the inside well i don't like force them to do it but it would be nice

03:02:00.600 if they walk on the outside just it's just a protective thing they're just protecting

03:02:05.880 someone who's smaller than them someone who's more vulnerable than them it's just what you do

03:02:11.240 like if they saw an old lady i would hope that they would help the old lady so it's just something

03:02:15.720 like would you say oh why does he have to help the old lady cross the street he doesn't it's just a

03:02:21.720 kind um okay gentlemanly thing to do one thing at a time here so when it comes to the i think we're

03:02:27.480 talking about the same thing i'm using inside outside but i think we're talking about the same

03:02:31.320 thing yeah he walks closest to the road yes okay so we should he should why because it's an in is it's

03:02:40.760 is it's his innate nature to protect but so the reason for that is as the man he walks closer to the

03:02:48.680 road that way if a car is barreling at you he dies instead of you or he's injured so do you think

03:02:58.120 that he should allow her to die instead of him well we can get there but you're suggesting that men

03:03:04.760 have a duty to protect women yes on the first date at all always all time even if yes even if we're out

03:03:11.400 and say you're just out on the street and you see a woman um getting attacked i would hope that

03:03:18.040 another man would protect her and step in if need be not just let her be vulnerable and get hurt or

03:03:24.440 whatever huh it's just it's in their nature to protect yeah there's i mean there's a couple

03:03:29.480 different things there but i guess my question is so you expect a guy even on the first date to

03:03:35.480 whether the chance is extremely rare or not you want him to essentially be willing to sacrifice his

03:03:42.920 life for you on the first day getting a little extreme i mean that's not going to happen right

03:03:48.440 it's not going to happen but that would be like that's the basis well should i be the one stop

03:03:53.480 interrupting go ahead you gotta let me finish that would be the basis by which like for what other

03:03:59.720 reason would you want a man to walk closer to the street it's in some rare scenario it's like a

03:04:06.040 gesture if a car comes barreling at you it puts him in a position to shield you and for him to take

03:04:13.560 the hit from the car whether that results in injury or death well it's in their innate nature to protect

03:04:20.360 women and children that's always been women children yes women and children so women don't

03:04:26.520 no are women children not no i said women and children so women and children no okay they can

03:04:36.200 they still have a duty to protect women because women are not as strong as men women are more vulnerable

03:04:42.760 okay cool so now that we've established that men have duties what duties do women have women are

03:04:48.040 nurturers women are there to support you women are there but what duties do women have in the early

03:04:54.360 stages of a relationship well you just have to think about why are you asking a woman out in general

03:05:01.160 because you have a romantic interest in her and you want to date her and you want companionship

03:05:04.920 so and she gets the exact same thing in return though yes okay and okay uh well here as long as

03:05:12.680 you're okay with should claims as it relates to men men should do xyz should if a woman if a man should

03:05:20.200 protect you a man should provide should women be submissive yes should women cook and clean

03:05:30.360 yes if a man tells his girlfriend to go make him a sandwich should she do it i mean you don't have to

03:05:36.920 say it like that but yes she there's no reason why she can't cook him or boyfriend a sandwich you can

03:05:41.880 say we can frame it in as flowery a way as you like um should women be virgins well they really should be

03:05:55.400 we're not but we should 99 of them are it like that's what god right right right that is what god

03:06:01.240 intended and i think that it he had that intention for a reason and it's we would have less problems i

03:06:10.760 think if we all waited yes totally okay but it's just interesting there's so much traditional

03:06:17.320 expectation on men when it comes to their behavior and their conduct and there doesn't really seem to

03:06:23.560 be much uh traditional expectation on women to fall into their traditional gender roles

03:06:31.560 you'll even have you'll even have liberal feminist women who insist or demand or want men to pay for

03:06:37.960 dates be protectors be providers but they're like the most modern progressive feminist women ever

03:06:43.240 yeah i don't subscribe to feminism so like for you when you pursue women and you're going out with them

03:06:49.880 do you wait did you rate was your microphone always that high um i don't know maybe i'm just watching

03:06:54.920 oh okay that's but so do you expect something out of women when you're getting to know them in the

03:06:59.720 beginning expect like things in return like okay the woman is expecting you for like you to pay the meal

03:07:06.360 and like things like that what are you expecting from her like yeah sure i mean if there's an expectation

03:07:14.280 on her end that i'm going to be providing so paying for dates and whatnot first off my expectation

03:07:20.760 starts something like this um if you have expressed a interest in me and it depends really how we meet

03:07:27.000 um if we if it's sort of i'm not going to give the scenario where she's contacted me first for

03:07:35.800 example but no yeah it's you you i've pursued her yes you're doing everything first if she wants a

03:07:41.560 second date with me there there can't be other dudes in the picture okay so first loyalty that's

03:07:47.560 reasonable but i expected i mean ideally i'd expect to be dealing with a girl that's not

03:07:51.800 fucking another guy so i don't want to be dealing like i don't even want to take a girl out if

03:07:56.280 another dude is sexually in the picture like that's an immediate 100 deal breaker she's

03:08:01.560 fucking a dude i don't care if they're not in a relationship he can have her like i don't want

03:08:06.200 to deal with a girl who's fucking other men now if she's dating other men i could sort of understand

03:08:11.480 if it's like you know she's dating but she's not sleeping with them if we go on the first date if

03:08:15.960 she wants a second date it has to be a wrap with the other dudes i want almost immediate

03:08:21.480 romantic and sexual uh exclusivity i i don't know if the i suppose it would be exclusivity but um

03:08:29.000 without a title though you're not in a role that you're not going to put a title on it yet

03:08:32.360 this is how people have dated for the vast like up until very recently 20 years ago typically people

03:08:38.760 would date one person at a time yeah it wasn't i have a roster of five people i'm fucking three of

03:08:43.720 them yeah i don't agree with that it was it was date one person see how that goes oh it doesn't

03:08:51.400 work here's the next person i do prefer that i think honestly i we would all be way better

03:08:56.040 well i'm not everybody but people are just in perpetual situations what do you have um

03:09:01.800 isn't that based on mindset though like me personally i'm a demisexual i've never been

03:09:06.360 able to date two people at once that's just not how i operate but like some people can and whatnot so

03:09:12.440 it's just like a mindset thing right what you're saying are there yeah i agree that there's poly people

03:09:18.120 out there like people people people people excuse me does that make you poly though if you're just

03:09:23.800 trying to find like who you click with what do you mean like by going on multiple dates whether it's

03:09:28.920 sexual or not uh i don't think it would make you poly if you are dating multiple people and there's no

03:09:35.320 sex involved but if there was sex involved i think you'd be uh poly yes okay you'd be having

03:09:42.760 sex you'd have be having sexual relationship with multiple people at the same time um but in addition

03:09:49.080 to that my other expectations would be uh there would be some expectations when it came to deference

03:09:55.000 in the relationship if you want me to be a leader you have to be a follower two people can't lead

03:10:00.520 so if i'm the leader you got to follow so you have to defer to me on decisions agree yeah

03:10:06.120 yeah so you want a submissive basically all right yes i want a submissive aha okay well it's not even

03:10:13.880 necessarily as some people bring that into bdsm but i think submission can exist external to bdsm okay

03:10:20.520 can i say so it's just a traditional mindset basically sure yeah can i add something as well

03:10:27.320 uh well you go first because you asked um so you want i agree with you by the way brian i'm very much

03:10:32.360 into that there's a leader and a follower and if that's your traditional mindset then why

03:10:35.960 are you not traditional in the sense that you that you're not willing to even pay for a date

03:10:39.880 because if you're going to be traditional men traditional men protect and provide and you're

03:10:43.720 already like protesting that like you're in nature you're protesting but you still want a submissive

03:10:49.640 girl so it doesn't really line up it's super simple so of the women that i've dated more recently

03:10:55.880 i'm taking care of everything however okay uh my previous experience is like i i used to be on

03:11:02.600 dating apps this was like two years ago um i was meeting a lot of women on dating apps and so

03:11:08.680 the expectation on dating apps is i have to go in with the assumption and i even if i were to ask

03:11:15.000 point blank i'd probably also assume they might lie to me i have to assume there's another guy in the

03:11:19.240 picture i have to assume they're fucking somebody else so like i'm not really keen i don't think unless

03:11:24.680 the girl has made it abundantly clear that she's not dealing with other men i don't really want to

03:11:31.960 be the sucker who's taking her on out on a date because she's just kind of bored but she's actually

03:11:36.520 got one or two or three other dudes and she's sleeping with one of them i'm not taking a girl

03:11:40.600 out on a date and paying for her shit and then she fucks her situationship later that night

03:11:47.160 it's windy guys it's all good don't worry about it um so excited for the drive yeah so

03:11:54.280 my position is like um i don't really think men should be out here providing for women

03:12:00.840 unless the woman is coming with genuine intention so like yeah as a girl if you've got

03:12:06.520 a roster you're you're dealing with multiple men like or you don't even have to be sleeping with

03:12:11.720 another dude but if i'm on a date with you and you're telling me you got three other dates lined

03:12:16.600 up for the rest of the week i i'm not paying yeah i don't if you're dating with intention and like

03:12:27.240 i in that situation i'm not paying no i i'm not paying but if you're actually about me

03:12:32.600 like that's not you can get if you're then why are you going out with her what do you mean if you

03:12:37.240 don't want to maybe she hasn't made that revelation until i'm out on the date like i might ask her

03:12:41.400 something casual like oh so like how's the dating life been so you're gonna take her out have a

03:12:46.520 meal and then ask her i've been in situation i've been in situations where i've asked a girl out on

03:12:51.320 a date and we get to talking and she's telling me oh i have five other dates lined up this week i'm

03:12:55.880 like eh i've lost interest but um but i've also vetted women beforehand i'll always try to do a phone

03:13:03.240 call or something be like yeah what's your situation are you dating other people are there

03:13:07.080 other guys involved i'm i hope they be i hope they're honest sometimes they might lie so you never

03:13:12.040 know but if you're dealing with a girl who has a genuine interest in you then yeah i'm gonna take

03:13:16.440 care of everything that's fine okay then we agree but uh but in order for you to take care of

03:13:21.320 everything they have to fall into the traditional role sure but keep in mind i mean when it comes to

03:13:27.960 traditional uh there i don't think it's all or nothing necessarily um i think there's some

03:13:35.400 variance when it comes to more traditional or less traditional for example like i don't want to get

03:13:41.960 married so you you could have quarrel with my rather non-traditional position there um and uh you could

03:13:51.960 say okay well you shouldn't have sex until marriage i don't believe in that either so am i a hundred percent

03:13:58.760 like stone not stone age like bronze age traditional no not necessarily but like in terms of like the

03:14:05.640 relationship dynamic that i find is the most optimal it's leader follower and then she can't be like

03:14:15.720 involved with a bunch of other dudes i don't think it works did you say you don't want to get married

03:14:20.760 i don't want to get married no can i ask why mm-hmm yeah i mean there's a whole bunch of reasons um

03:14:29.400 one i don't think the government needs to be involved in my romantic life uh i'm not a fan of

03:14:36.120 the government for a bunch of reasons but uh yeah they they probably shouldn't be the adjudicators of

03:14:42.280 my relationship with my uh the girl i'm seeing and then also there's just significant financial

03:14:48.520 ramifications to that and divorce and unwinding marriage if you're religious by all means but

03:14:54.200 okay yeah that's what i was gonna say i mean i think i'm a firm believer that if you're not doing it

03:14:58.440 in the context of like the marital covenant that there's actually no point to get married in the

03:15:02.840 first place well i mean and just to be clear though all of my quarrels with marriage equally apply to

03:15:10.200 religious men and christian men okay however i think they're that for christian men they have i suppose a

03:15:18.200 positive justification that exists that coincides with all the negative uh ramifications of

03:15:27.880 uh a marriage failing so divorce but i understand the the reasons and the the reasons for religious

03:15:35.960 marriage secular marriage makes no sense to me do you have any other questions do you still consider

03:15:40.760 yourself traditional uh i mean i suppose some people might like andrew probably would not view

03:15:49.480 me as traditional andrew's an orthodox christian he'd probably advise people to wait until marriage

03:15:54.680 to have sex doesn't believe in premarital sex he believes in marriage so i don't consider myself

03:16:00.120 to be traditional as i don't consider my so in modernity i'm not sure that we can really have

03:16:06.360 traditionalism anymore so that like the ideas you guys are going back and forth on about uh things

03:16:12.520 like chivalry um well as chivalry chivalry is now inconsequential there's no incentive for men to be

03:16:18.360 chivalrous so chivalry used to be done for the purpose of a virtuous woman you know uh who was chased

03:16:25.080 and who was following kind of higher virtues and you're you showing your forms of chivalry were showing

03:16:30.920 yourself as being a good mate right or that you had virtues equal to hers that's why she would select

03:16:38.200 you but um i i see no reason for men to be chivalrous what in modernity if women have equality that makes

03:16:45.480 no she she says i'm not a feminist in any i don't subscribe to feminism guarantee it you do guarantee

03:16:54.680 no i i i'm not about the i don't i don't believe men and women are equal and should be equal i think

03:17:00.600 they're different i think they're equal their roles are equally as important i just think they're

03:17:05.400 different so so then they're equal no their roles are just as important as the other role but totally

03:17:12.280 different that sounds like equality to me i don't think we should be if i was let's say i was the ceo

03:17:17.800 of a company and i went to two people and i said your roles are completely equal but different uh do

03:17:26.520 you think those two people now think the other person's the boss or has higher value than them

03:17:31.720 or anything like that or do you think that they think they're equal no i just think that

03:17:38.040 can you answer my question real quick you confuse me say it again yeah so if your boss came to you and

03:17:43.480 said your role is different than this other person you're working with but just as important right yeah

03:17:50.120 has he hasn't he just established equality between the two of you um i think they're equal in importance

03:18:01.880 yeah so they're equal they're just as important as the other so you

03:18:08.280 maybe equal in a sense but i don't think you should treat people treat men and women equally like

03:18:14.520 um like i don't think women should be like holding the door for men or protecting men or laying or

03:18:22.760 going to war like i just what you don't believe that women should like

03:18:28.520 protect and care for their partners in a sense the same extent in a sense i don't think women should

03:18:34.040 be the one who like go and fight no you know what i mean draft them up draft the women yeah holding

03:18:42.760 the door huh like well i mean like if he's behind me i'll hold it i'm just saying that i'm not going

03:18:48.600 to act like a man i'm not going to go around and open the door for him and walk him to his car

03:18:54.280 and i'm not going to in this world you know if my partner if we were parked in a sketchy spot and

03:19:00.040 like he was going to walk alone sure i'll walk him to his car what the heck just very very quickly

03:19:05.960 back to this um so i i understand i think i understand what you're saying should it be as charitable

03:19:11.160 as i can be to you you're just saying like look men and women are completely different yeah right

03:19:16.280 but there's they're similar in value right similar in value okay i get it but you if you agree then

03:19:23.240 that men and women are different shouldn't they have different privileges in society um

03:19:30.680 but give me an example like for instance um why should women vote um

03:19:37.480 um yeah i see i don't think we should take it to that extreme i think women are but wait women are

03:19:46.200 pretty intelligent and can make wait wait i thought you wanted the privilege of men to fight wars so

03:19:50.360 why do you get to vote on whether or not they go and fight them i think women can vote because they're

03:19:56.360 pretty intelligent and they can make a simple decision so they get to vote to make men go and fight wars on

03:20:01.400 their behalf and even though so that sounds like a position of privilege to me it sounds like feminism

03:20:06.680 well you have to also think about if

03:20:10.360 before the sisterhood gets involved we'll get everybody in from it's just i would just like to

03:20:14.440 just real quick finish the exchange right do you think that men should be able to or women

03:20:20.200 should be able to vote to send men to war to vote to send men to war

03:20:24.760 i i don't know i think men should go to war i don't know about voting for it do you think women

03:20:33.000 should go to war uh no then you have put women in a position of privilege do you see because what

03:20:39.080 you've said now is that women should be allowed to vote for you to go to war but they themselves

03:20:44.040 will never have to fight the war that they voted you to go and fight now do you understand why you're

03:20:49.080 actually talking about a distinction of privilege rather than you're not even talking about equality

03:20:54.280 now now we've passed that now we've gotten into feminist privilege the idea of men and women are

03:20:59.240 different so me as a woman i deserve shit because men can do things i can't do i didn't say i deserve

03:21:05.240 shit i'm just saying well we deserve to have women it's not protect you i think men should fight to

03:21:12.520 protect men are the protectors and the providers they're stronger than us then why is it that women

03:21:17.160 get a say in in how they conduct that fighting and protection i don't know do they get a say in

03:21:22.040 that yes they can vote can women vote in female politicians who can authorize war acts

03:21:31.320 can't male politicians do that too sure and can women vote those politicians yeah i mean yeah so then

03:21:39.080 what you're saying is is that women can essentially vote like let's say a politician runs on a platform

03:21:46.120 let's say a politician runs on a platform of i'm going to go to war with this country over here

03:21:50.520 okay whatever whatever country that is and all of the men vote against that politician but all the

03:21:58.120 women vote for him in her scenario what would end up happening is men would have to go and fight the war

03:22:03.800 that they didn't want to go fight on behalf of women who and women themselves would not have to

03:22:08.760 participate in said war right i mean i think women have a lot of rules in the military it doesn't

03:22:15.560 have to know but can you answer my question before you shift can you answer my question first okay can

03:22:21.480 you restate here yeah so theoretically isn't it the case that if women all voted for a single politician

03:22:29.320 and all the men voted against him right you do realize women outnumber men right that and that

03:22:34.680 politician wanted to go to war then men would have to go and fight the war and women would be the

03:22:40.120 ones who voted them in to go and fight it right i mean in a sense but that could happen reverse there's

03:22:45.880 no in a sense isn't it the case that if all the women voted for that person all the men voted against

03:22:52.600 that person they're in office they could send men off to war yes yes they they could absolutely so then

03:22:59.560 and and and they themselves would not have to fight that war right the women the women i mean

03:23:06.040 i know a lot of women who have gone to wars and fought okay okay so so the thing is is she says

03:23:14.200 women shouldn't fight in wars right we're using her world view so let's say in this society women

03:23:20.520 don't fight in any wars right and they don't right now by the way in this society they don't fight in

03:23:25.400 frontline combat everywhere in the infantry they're not allowed to but let's just get we're just giving

03:23:29.400 her her world view she doesn't believe women should fight in wars if that's the case why should women

03:23:34.840 be able to vote to send men to fight wars that's my that's my question because you're not only voting

03:23:40.760 for war you're voting for all their policies to the economy jobs i mean the whole nine war is just an

03:23:48.120 aspect of it but you might shouldn't okay great well then why shouldn't women go and fight wars then

03:23:52.920 i mean i know a lot of women who were on the front lines no you don't know any woman who are on the

03:23:57.320 front line fighting any war anywhere you don't know a single one i can name two right now because

03:24:02.280 women are home taking care of you don't know any they're not allowed to fight in frontline combat

03:24:06.920 they're not allowed to they're not allowed they are no they're not where middle east a few years ago

03:24:14.760 at least the the two that i know yeah they can run they can run basically they can run convoy

03:24:19.960 security they can run support roles they're not allowed to fight in frontline combat they're not

03:24:25.080 allowed to do you have military experience i'm just telling you i'm just how i'm explaining to

03:24:32.600 you that that's how it works right this second do you think women can be drafted i think women could

03:24:39.080 be drafted but i also wait wait hold on hold on hold on currently can women be drafted not currently so

03:24:47.560 why do you say they could be because it could be the law could be changed eventually well i mean you

03:24:55.240 could say that about anything currently though but women are currently exempt under the law from being

03:25:02.440 drafted but you also have to consider if if i'm fighting next to a six foot four man and he goes

03:25:08.120 down my ability to be fighting next to anybody is well it this is in theory my ability to rescue him

03:25:14.120 if if hits the wall is diminished so right men really want women next to them and in frontline

03:25:21.000 combat roles is that really fair to them i thought you just said that you knew a bunch of women who are

03:25:25.240 in frontline combat i do i know too and are they capable of dragging the six foot six guy out of there

03:25:31.320 probably not then why the are they there because the army told them to be there

03:25:37.480 now the army didn't send them off to frontline combat's absurd okay they can women have been in

03:25:42.360 combat situations that's true but if you look all you have to do is look at the numbers of the amount

03:25:46.920 of men who die in wars even modern ones in iraq afghanistan versus women's very few women die because

03:25:53.080 they're not sent to combat situations it's not to say they can't be in one that does happen right but

03:25:58.920 it's not because they're sent specifically to do that job now the thing is is like just to explain

03:26:04.920 this to you so that you understand pretend for a moment just pretend that women um from her we're

03:26:13.240 just going from her view she says i don't want women in the military right that's what she said okay so

03:26:22.200 if women aren't in the military then theoretically then in this isolated example if women voted for

03:26:31.000 war they would be in a position of privilege because they would never have to fight that war

03:26:36.680 right and what you're saying is correct but there's so much more that goes into

03:26:41.640 choosing who to vote for rather than just war great we'll have a great economy and they get to send

03:26:47.160 the men off to war fantastic that's that's wonderful but the thing is is like it sounds

03:26:52.680 like a privilege is being given whether or not you're voting for multiple reasons there's still

03:26:57.720 a privilege being given to women that men don't have that's my point and so it's almost like having

03:27:02.920 your cake and eating it too in a sense well i agree and i think that there are a lot of privileges

03:27:07.640 that women have that men don't and that's just i mean men and women are equal in some areas but

03:27:13.640 they're not equal in every area and that's fine that's how it should be let's read this from

03:27:19.320 are men not equal in what i mean women have kids women have the babies men don't you know i'm sorry

03:27:27.960 does that require the genetic material for men i'm sorry does that require the genetic material

03:27:34.120 for men in order to have a baby well yeah i mean they don't have the same parts as women

03:27:38.760 so then the idea that a woman has simply has a uterus and by the way it can't be that hard if

03:27:44.120 every woman can do it right how hard could it be well i'm not saying it's difficult to have kids

03:27:47.800 it's not that yeah yeah right it's not that hard right so the thing is is like they need the genetic

03:27:52.120 material from men and they they do carry the child inside of them for nine months that's true and then

03:27:57.320 post a child being born you definitely require a man uh if you want to have like a functioning

03:28:04.440 two-parent household and well-adjusted children right now i i agree with you and i i believe in

03:28:08.920 a two-parent household and i believe in having a sense of family and i think feminism really destroys

03:28:14.120 a sense of family but you know there's there's just roles that women should have and there's

03:28:19.640 roles that men should have you really think you really think that do you well like donated 200

03:28:25.880 women are serving in almost exclusively non-combatant roles for context the very first enlisted female

03:28:33.640 graduated the army's infantry course this year after they lowered the physical standards

03:28:39.320 thank you michael james because that would be problematic but the thing is is i i just got to

03:28:44.680 ask you this what actually do you disagree with feminists about name one thing you actually disagree

03:28:50.920 with them about what i mean there's a ton i disagree with feminism about i think that it's wrong i to

03:28:59.320 declare war on men to say that all men are bad and women should be more privileged than men that's

03:29:04.680 a terrible ideology it's not what feminism feminism is just the reduction of patriarchy for the purposes

03:29:11.080 of egalitarianism yeah it's destroying families and i disagree with destroying families yeah but how is it

03:29:16.520 doing that what is the thing what is the actual like feminine name a policy that you think is a feminist

03:29:21.880 policy that is destroying families i mean stating that women don't need men i need no man i i think

03:29:29.560 that's not a policy there's no there's no united states policy of women don't need no man well are we

03:29:35.000 talking about like u.s policies or are we talking about what is the actual feminist legislation that

03:29:40.440 you would disagree with i wasn't talking about actual legislation i was talking about the society and

03:29:46.200 of feminism okay so just on the social aspect and we'll leave legislation out of it just on the social

03:29:52.840 aspect if feminists say i'm a feminist but i still believe men have value and i still believe that men

03:30:00.040 have value to society what would your quarrel within me i mean i don't really think that that's a full-on

03:30:07.320 feminist and i think that there's an appreciation for women and i think that there's an extreme feminism

03:30:13.320 view which is destroying families don't all men are bad here's my last question very quickly last

03:30:18.520 question then i just got to ask you what is a feminist i would consider a feminist somebody

03:30:25.160 that has a hatred against men like f the patriarchy i don't want a family i don't want a man i want to

03:30:31.720 go hook up with whoever what's the difference between that and standard progressive then not too much i

03:30:37.480 mean i i don't necessarily agree with standard progressive progressivism what i'm saying is is like

03:30:42.840 it sounds to me like what you're doing is you're conflating woke with what feminist ideology is

03:30:48.040 these are two very different things i think that people do this often they conflate woke because

03:30:54.200 they don't like these blue-haired sky screeching lunatics who are like evil blah blah blah i get

03:30:59.160 that i understand i think they're all crazy but feminist ideology i very much think that you

03:31:05.000 probably ascribe to i i agree with womanhood to a sense um but i i don't think that womanhood should

03:31:14.360 be all men are bad we don't need men i i disagree with with that argument because i think women

03:31:19.880 absolutely need men and i think that men and women complement each other and i think that a happy

03:31:25.000 marriage is a fulfillment in life i consider complementarianism to be feminism

03:31:30.920 if you're trying to reduce the patriarchy you would do it by saying hey men and women are

03:31:37.000 complementarian and then you would say they're equals to each other we need to have an egalitarian

03:31:41.400 society i would consider that to be feminism i guess i would i would consider that i would disagree

03:31:47.160 with that um i would think that men and women do complement each other but i also think that i am

03:31:53.320 a follower to my man we should be in charge my my man is absolutely yeah so so so that patriarchy right

03:32:00.040 yeah i'm not saying i disagree with the peak patriarchy that's not the argument

03:32:06.040 i was making are you in favor why should women be able to vote if you believe in a strong patriarchy

03:32:11.960 because women should still have a say in the matter but in a family sense my man is the leader

03:32:16.520 i'm still a strong woman you know i'm not a business one big family i'm sorry i didn't hear the last

03:32:22.520 part nation's one big family right i don't consider the nation one big family no

03:32:28.200 so what is patriotism isn't that isn't that the idea that we're all interconnected inside of our

03:32:33.880 nation we're all we're all part of this big family we call you the united states right like

03:32:40.120 if you were in a foreign nation and someone's like hey you're from the united states and you

03:32:43.640 said yeah wouldn't that be you you guys would bond over that right away right you would but you don't

03:32:48.760 bond over everything you know i mean no but you bond over that because it's like one big happy family

03:32:54.760 so i'm just saying if you're pro patriarchy if you're actually pro patriarchy wouldn't you want

03:33:00.680 the patriarchs in charge of i'm not really sure if i would agree with that or not i want my man in

03:33:10.200 charge i think that my man is the leader and i'm the follower but i think in a sense of who's running

03:33:15.480 the country i i think that's a little bit more important than what's going on in my personal

03:33:22.120 little bit of feminism coming out there a little bit of that egalitarian feminism so you want to see

03:33:28.440 a reduction in patriarchy because you don't want the leadership of your nation to be patriarchal

03:33:34.200 because i don't want the leadership of my nation in other words you want me to be able to use up

03:33:38.120 the authority of men that's anti-patriarchal right i just don't want the like the i don't want my

03:33:44.680 nation to be poor and i think if that you know a lot of women might make poor choices in voting but

03:33:49.400 a lot of men might also make poor choices in voting you know it just depends on on who the

03:33:55.560 current politician is let me just explain to you just very quickly that if only men could vote let's

03:34:01.320 say tomorrow there would never be another progressive elected for as long as you ever lived

03:34:05.800 ever i would probably know there would be absolutely zero progressive policy which was ever pushed

03:34:11.480 anywhere the idea of the uh teas and all of that gone gone instantly it'd be gone overnight you never

03:34:18.920 have to worry about it again the idea of the security of women's sports done the idea of all 99 of the

03:34:25.320 problems that you would rage about is because you want to usurp the authority of the patriarchy

03:34:32.840 i'm canadian and i just want to say that the prime minister that sitting prime minister is very

03:34:37.800 progressive and he's a male so i'm curious what your opinion on him is yeah and who voted for him

03:34:43.640 women not me it was a bunch of women and if well sure that's not always when i voted in the canadian

03:34:51.720 in canada guess what justin trudeau wouldn't have happened fair but instead they were like he's so

03:34:57.400 handsome he's so he's such a handsome guy and he's so suave and blah blah blah and so they voted him in

03:35:05.880 if they hadn't voted there wouldn't be a justin trudeau he wouldn't be there we have a couple chats

03:35:10.280 here we have uh rendon bradford i guess i mispronounced her name earlier rendon i do apologize

03:35:16.760 there is no a in rendon randon did i say randon randall yo rendon thank you for the uh big hundred

03:35:23.640 dollar soup chat guys w's in the chat for ran randan thank you man uh we got rachel wilson if you want

03:35:29.400 the privileges of traditionalism but you don't want the duties of tradition you're a feminist if you want

03:35:34.120 the privileges of equality without the duty duties of equality you're a feminist thank you rachel for

03:35:40.520 that super chat and then uh we let's see here we have three chats coming in from one from masculine

03:35:49.240 where he says chivalry back then was earned by and reserved for women who displayed virtue pure noble

03:35:55.560 honorable women today expect it automatically but don't realize that it is still earned not expected

03:36:01.800 that's actually a really good point uh masculine there's this expectation there uh but i think

03:36:08.520 it's earned i do think it's earned uh which is kind of why a little earlier when you said you're

03:36:13.400 traditional i kind of questioned it insofar as you're involved in sex work that's antithetical to

03:36:23.560 being traditional i think my views are traditional i would love to have a traditional um marriage with my

03:36:31.000 kids and be a stay-at-home mom and cook and clean and do my duties as a woman um given the choices i've

03:36:37.880 made i do know that that's probably not going to happen for me because of the because of the choices

03:36:44.440 i've made um my views and relationships are very traditional though um i in a relationship i am very

03:36:52.840 submissive i do want to be led uh i do want to be that stay-at-home mom and to take care of my kids

03:37:00.360 and my house and my man okay all right we have lucas here a gentleman offers chivalry only if it is earned

03:37:05.880 in exchange for traditional ladylike behavior yet another of the seemingly 10 000th example of one of one

03:37:13.560 directional modern-day female entitlement solipsism okay and then he follows that with thank you lucas for

03:37:21.720 the messages you're offering me your time do you have any idea what my billing rate is it's uh lucas

03:37:28.760 charges are you a lawyer uh 1250 an hour no i'd be offering you my time thank god wife i are gen x and

03:37:38.200 clearly see the world differently but this is mind-bending i think this is perhaps in response to

03:37:43.960 you chivalry is earned so what you're saying is it's a first date and how do i earn you just being

03:37:52.360 a gentleman and opening the door for me that's a great so that's a great question the idea here is

03:37:59.000 just this this used to just be baked into the pie used to just be assumed all women deserve chivalry but

03:38:06.120 why well because if you go back 70 years ago all the women who got married were virgins 95 right they

03:38:13.480 were all virgins they were all chased and they were pushing towards virtue now let's fast forward here

03:38:19.400 into modernity raise your hand at the table if you're a virgin yeah now raise your hand at the

03:38:25.000 table if you're not in a relationship you ain't getting no fucking chivalry what are you getting

03:38:30.360 chivalry what for what what are you getting it for what are you getting it for what do you what

03:38:36.040 hang on what do you basic she says basic yeah it's just basic decency and respect you have a lady

03:38:42.120 let me ask you but let me ask you a question wait if it's about decency and respect i want

03:38:46.520 fucking flowers and my dinner paid for it too well yeah i mean sure

03:38:52.600 is the audio lower damien it's just that's like i also believe in like respecting and loving your man

03:38:58.360 so i think that's a huge part of it and then he earns the respect and you're in the chivalent

03:39:04.200 chivalry i deserve to have my dinner paid for me or else she said that's a feminine man what makes

03:39:12.360 him feminine wouldn't that be more masculine i mean pay for your own no i meant pay for my

03:39:17.800 shit too while you're at it do it i said now that wouldn't that be more masculine no i said if you want

03:39:23.400 flowers like a girl then that makes you kind of i think guys can get flowers

03:39:27.560 okay go ahead go ahead i think that in order for me to even want to earn your chivalry um you know

03:39:37.080 like why would i want to earn that from you if you can't even open the door for me and give me basic

03:39:42.360 you know wait respect and treat me as a woman hold on hold on question for you though hold on a lady

03:39:47.400 question for you you're a porn star can we get splits going here um you're a porn star correct you're

03:39:54.840 a stripper correct and do you think you deserve a guy to pay for first dates and you think you

03:40:01.320 deserve chivalry yeah it doesn't define like me as a person just because of what i do i mean it kind

03:40:07.400 of does though i mean it doesn't it doesn't mean i deserve any less respect than anyone else oh i'm

03:40:11.800 not saying because you're a porn star the only guys you're allowed to date they need to walk up to

03:40:16.280 you and smack you across the face and you need to tolerate abuse but you're looking for something

03:40:22.040 very specific which is traditional gentlemanly chivalrous treatment you're not holding up your

03:40:28.840 end of the bargain you're a porn star i mean you're fucking other men on camera it's not like it's not

03:40:33.240 as um surface level and simple as i don't agree with like every single thing to do with the the topic

03:40:39.400 we're talking but i to me it seems like you want a gentleman who deserves gentlemanly treatment a

03:40:44.920 lady i'm not saying this to be mean but you're a porn star you're not a lady when i was in my

03:40:49.720 relationship um a few months ago you know i quit doing porn i quit sleeping with other people and i

03:40:55.320 was exclusive to him you know so it's it just depends you know i i'm a porn star and i'm a stripper

03:41:01.000 and i don't i'm single like it doesn't doesn't matter so question for you if you were on a first date

03:41:06.680 with a guy and he takes you to you go out to dinner and the waiter comes and he's like two bills is

03:41:13.240 there gonna be a second date uh no honestly if i had to pay for my meal on the first date absolutely

03:41:19.160 not that also kind of gives me like broke vibes okay that's so cool broke vibes um i'm just confused

03:41:25.800 though why because you want gentlemanly treatment but you're not a lady i mean i'm also i've also paid

03:41:33.960 for men as well though like in my relationship um you know i still paid for a lot of things i don't

03:41:39.480 expect the man to pay for everything either yeah but you just said if you were if you went to dinner

03:41:43.720 with a guy and he said hey two checks he paid for his meal he wanted it's just a bad first impression

03:41:49.000 i mean i don't know i wouldn't want to pursue that person so do you think about like would you be fine

03:41:52.920 if a guy i would have multiple others paying for it so why would i choose no so here here's the thing

03:41:58.760 though this is the portion that i grant and i agree with could you be like the most and i'm not

03:42:05.560 saying this about you necessarily i'm just when i say could you i mean like a woman in general could

03:42:11.560 a woman be the most degenerate woman ever who's fucked the most men ever who's a porn star who's

03:42:17.160 a prostitute who's a drug addict who's all these things who's just like who's a bleeding heart liberal

03:42:24.040 feminist like everything that is antithetical to traditionalism to ladylike behavior could she

03:42:31.960 still find a guy who's willing to pay for a first date yes and i'll tell you why because one there's

03:42:39.240 a significant shift in the overton window in terms of what is deemed socially acceptable a lot of women

03:42:44.920 do this through social pressure uh oh you're insecure you won't do this blah blah blah you oh you're

03:42:50.280 this is this is discrimination this is sexism because you don't want to date a woman who's a

03:42:54.440 porn star or whatever it is but the other component is men do what works and so despite women being the

03:43:00.920 most modern they've ever been despite women being the least traditional they've ever been in all of

03:43:07.240 human history you still to some degree find traditionalism and gentlemanly treatment from men

03:43:17.800 there's something hardwired in women it's maybe it's evolutionary maybe it's biological men who are

03:43:23.000 protectors and providers you just hardwired find that attractive and so men do what works as a guy

03:43:29.480 even if you're dating a liberal chick like it's not going to hurt you to pay for her date even if she's

03:43:34.040 like a crazy feminist like it's not going to hurt you but even feminist women can still have

03:43:40.440 traditional gender expectations when it comes to dating so men are just going to do what works they're

03:43:44.840 going to do the most optimum thing the reality is even if you're dating probably the best move if

03:43:49.720 you want to get that girl in bed or you want to get her to date or you want to be in a relationship with

03:43:53.560 her probably the best move the most optimum move is to pay for the pay for the date yeah i'm talking

03:44:00.280 on a higher bird's eye view level of do they deserve it and i think no i mean i guess it varies and it

03:44:09.000 depends on your specific outlooks um i don't know i think women when it comes to chivalry

03:44:19.480 i can't say it chivalry um confuse it with respect in a way women expect men to pay for their meals

03:44:28.360 women expect you to open the door um when even when it's not necessarily deserved

03:44:33.720 it's i think we confuse it with that is we expect that from men but we don't have anything

03:44:41.240 necessarily to return for it i i just i'm confused by this like i would i would almost put more respect

03:44:52.440 on it if you're just like yeah i'm a modern woman um i don't really have this expectation that i know

03:44:57.800 it's still nice to receive these benefits the traditional benefits oh the guy does all the chivalry he

03:45:03.320 pays for first dates yeah that's that's a you're receiving a benefit i get that that's nice and you

03:45:08.920 want it and there's still plenty of men that will do it but if we're having a conversation about deserve

03:45:15.800 i don't see how a woman who's involved in the porn industry you can still get it 100 there's men

03:45:21.640 probably men who are like your fans they'll be like they'd love to take you out on a date and simp

03:45:27.240 they'd love to they'll do all that do you deserve it i don't think so not in that sense i mean in a

03:45:36.360 romantic sense relationship sense i mean that obviously changes and it depends if you're

03:45:42.040 continuing doing those things that make you undeserving i can maybe you know because i can i'm

03:45:48.120 a porn star now but i could quit and yeah sure i was still but that but you wouldn't you're you're

03:45:53.720 gonna you're gonna keep going right like if a guy asks you on a first date you're gonna quit right

03:45:58.760 away i mean you gotta be in a relationship with my relationship um i quit within three months yeah

03:46:05.240 but how long were you guys dating like two and a half right so like the entire time he was taking

03:46:10.840 you out on dates i mean he also pursued me though huh he pursued sure yeah that's what i'm talking about

03:46:15.400 though you you'll still you'll still get that kind of treatment i'm not denying like you're not going

03:46:20.760 to get that kind of treatment from men i can sit on this podcast all day and talk about what

03:46:25.320 you deserve or don't deserve like the reality is a lot of dudes are just they're going to do what

03:46:30.600 works which is to pay for dates etc etc um but if we're like i don't know i could ask the girls here

03:46:37.000 a question and maybe you'll frame it in the way you can understand like if a guy's a total player

03:46:42.600 um and he's just dating a bunch of different women sleeping with a bunch of different women

03:46:47.720 do you think that he deserves like having a girl who's like doing all this for him and maybe gives

03:46:55.080 him her virginity no no just for him to throw her away no i don't i would say he probably doesn't

03:47:02.200 deserve it so i mean maybe that's the way you can look at it like a guy who's a player does he deserve

03:47:09.160 all your like even if the girl's not a virgin let's just say she's giving him everything like she's

03:47:15.720 trying to build towards a relationship and he does nothing for he's doing nothing and she's doing

03:47:20.680 everything yeah does he deserve it i'd say probably not no um here we have a message coming through

03:47:26.920 from masculine hey masculine give me one sec yeah it's lagging maybe we deserve naps i'm just kidding

03:47:33.800 it is simple you are a stripper and a three-o-fo no men with their salt is giving you an open door

03:47:38.440 opening the door isn't basic decency it's earned to the 40 year old you're cooked and a feminist

03:47:43.320 do you want to respond to the cooked feminist statements uh i'm actually not but um see like

03:47:48.360 i don't agree with her lifestyle and if i didn't think she deserved those things i just wouldn't

03:47:52.760 date a little bit just so we get yeah i wouldn't date her if if i didn't feel like she deserved

03:47:59.240 dinner or whatever i just wouldn't date her but knowing what she does even though i don't agree with

03:48:04.120 it i'm not going to let the door slam in her face because i have human decency and if you see like

03:48:08.760 an old lady walking are you going to hold naturally every even i hold the door for old ladies and old

03:48:14.280 men so it's not they're not earning that it's just being a rude person so i completely disagree i mean

03:48:21.480 wait wait a second uh don't the first date is the getting to know you period right so then by that

03:48:28.200 logic then if i was on the first date you had disclosed that you had ever been on of i should just

03:48:32.360 get up and be like you're not worth human dignity off and leave right i would i screen people before

03:48:38.040 like i'd have a conversation with them but you're not going to know all this stuff right i would know

03:48:42.280 the basics of what they do for work before i go on a date with them yeah you should be asking those

03:48:45.960 questions yeah not what you do for work what you did for work to see if you want to go on a date with

03:48:49.720 them you should what you did for work like you don't know you're not going to know the intricate

03:48:53.640 details a person's passed before the first date usually i'm not saying that okay yeah that wouldn't

03:48:58.520 happen but usually you wouldn't so like by your logic should i just get up and be like oh oh god gross and

03:49:04.920 just just like walk out of the room no no you shouldn't that's rude i would say continue the

03:49:10.200 date and then if you don't want to see them again you don't have to see them again well wait a second

03:49:14.280 wait so so the whole precondition you have for what chivalry is is just rudeness

03:49:19.800 well holding a door and stuff though like you guys let her answer

03:49:24.440 it's just rudeness i think it's pretty rude if you don't hold the door for for a lady or an old

03:49:30.040 lady how come if the lady doesn't hold the door for you it's not rude well if i go ahead of a guy

03:49:34.520 i do hold the door good and why don't you pay for dinner that seems pretty um because i only pay for

03:49:41.000 dinner with my friends because it's friendship if you're going on a date i think the men should pay

03:49:45.400 you're on a date it's not well i think the woman should pay well why is that rude because i'm what

03:49:50.600 again what makes it hang on what i'm asking is what makes it rude if i have the expectation a woman pays

03:49:55.240 on the day because you're the man and men are the protectors and providers by nature and they should

03:49:59.480 pay for the dates also if you're asking so so wait a second so my nature is to pay for your food

03:50:04.600 that's my nature what if you don't see why that's the nature of a man is not to be a pay pig for a

03:50:10.920 woman's food it's not a pay pig for it's just dinner i mean if you can't do it it's just dinner i

03:50:16.440 don't know if it's just dinner then why don't you pay for it you guys act like you paid for dinner that

03:50:21.320 you did this human like you're a hero or something it's just dinner let me get this right

03:50:30.440 if you don't pay for dinner you're a rude prick because dinner's no big deal at all i can pay for

03:50:36.200 my own dinner but won't right and you by the way should have no expectation of gratefulness because

03:50:42.600 you act like you did this big thing by paying for my dinner that i demand that you pay for i definitely

03:50:47.400 don't how are you not the rude one here i don't have that attitude you know what's funny if i had

03:50:52.840 a pow in a camp i was running i wouldn't treat them as bad as that yeah i don't i wouldn't have

03:50:57.960 that expectation if i had prisoners of war in my camps i would treat them that rudely yeah oh

03:51:03.640 i don't i don't bring in the prisoners of war i don't go on a date acting all entitled and stuff like

03:51:08.680 i think i just i act like a lady on a date like i don't know i act like a lady on a date i don't like

03:51:13.880 it i don't come off that way i don't know i don't present myself like you should hold the door

03:51:19.080 if they do it they do it if they don't they don't i just note it exactly i don't say anything i don't

03:51:23.320 say you didn't hold you know what i mean here one comment before i have you come in on this so i guess

03:51:27.640 my question is i guess to try to frame it in the final way that i can frame it you have you're pretty

03:51:35.000 socially liberal like you're involved in sex work hello um why does your social lib social liberalism

03:51:46.520 not extend to gender expectations as it relates to men what do you mean okay so are you are you

03:51:56.280 a feminist no i mean i don't really have like set like okay do you believe in beliefs like that

03:52:01.880 wait do you believe in equality yeah wait hold on in your pre-show notes you described yourself

03:52:09.720 you said you consider yourself a feminist in your pre-show notes i didn't say that

03:52:13.720 long time ago you did a long time ago you did yeah jade right um you said you consider yourself a

03:52:19.800 feminist do you believe in equality yeah okay do you believe um in like lax socially progressive

03:52:28.200 uh val like social socially liberal uh values i guess i don't know what that means um are you uh fine

03:52:38.760 with uh trying to think of an example here um i don't know um i'm trying to think of an example

03:52:47.240 that's not gonna get me canceled off youtube uh you're fine with transgenderism yeah totally cool

03:52:56.680 like transing the kids or whatever like you're fine with that like like giving kids puberty blockers

03:53:02.040 you're fine with that oh no oh okay absolutely not um you're but you're fine with like women just

03:53:07.640 being totally immodest or engaging in sex work yeah same with men yeah men can do it too either or

03:53:14.040 uh so i guess men do do it too and uh i i just i'm trying to reconcile your kind of socially liberal

03:53:24.520 views as it pertains to women but you hold men to rather stringent like very strict uh not really i

03:53:32.600 just think a lot of these things are like the bare minimum and also i mean i don't have a problem doing

03:53:36.440 them don't you wait wait hold on can i just turn this back around on you the bare minimum when you're

03:53:40.120 dating a woman is that she's not a porn star like wouldn't that be the bare minimum for a guy like

03:53:44.760 she doesn't personally that's why i quit when i was in a relationship but wouldn't that be the bare

03:53:48.760 minimum yeah yeah but and i don't agree with you only quit other people but you only quit being a

03:53:53.480 porn star but you only quit once you've already been dating the guy for three months and then you

03:53:57.400 guys have agreed to be in a relationship when that guy goes on that first date with you you're

03:54:01.320 currently and actively a porn star whereas like your expectation on the first date i mean

03:54:05.640 bare minimum bare minimum he pays for the first date i think most men's bare minimum is she doesn't

03:54:11.160 get fucked on camera yeah i mean for me personally like you know he was a male stripper so like that's

03:54:18.440 your past relationship but now we're talking now we're having a conversation about who should pay

03:54:22.200 on first dates you're saying bare minimum men should pay for first dates bare minimum women should not

03:54:27.080 be you women shouldn't be on in porn well yeah and i don't i don't disagree with that in a relationship

03:54:31.640 but you don't like so if i don't know 80 70 of women bare minimum the guy should pay for the first

03:54:37.320 date 80 90 of men i don't know what the i don't know what the breakdown is their bare minimum is she

03:54:43.720 doesn't do porn so shouldn't you like be a bit more lenient like oh okay i'll date a progressive 50 50

03:54:52.280 dude because i'm involved in modernity activities yeah i mean i it is all in circumstance like i i'm not

03:55:03.000 super strict holding that guy to those expectations you said if the guy asks he the guy says two checks

03:55:10.360 so he's gonna pay for his he's just like hey pay for yours there wouldn't be a second date no because

03:55:16.440 it just shows that he doesn't have like the interest in really pursuing things with me and

03:55:22.040 when there's competition out there why would i pick the one but but what if he says he's like hey this

03:55:26.760 is just my standard when going on first dates i'm really really interested in you like i want a long

03:55:31.640 term relationship in fact be my girlfriend tonight yeah well if you said that beforehand and made that

03:55:36.920 clear that those are like the terms you live your life by sure cool so i would have no issue paying for

03:55:42.120 my first date if i've somebody you know communicated isn't that why a guy's going on a date with you

03:55:46.760 because he wants to date you like he wants to be in a really like he he's just taking you on a date

03:55:50.760 just i've had a lot of guys take me on dates so they could just fuck me after well there's that

03:55:54.680 sure don't a lot of guys just try to ask people out to get their peepee so your intentions like that

03:56:00.520 that's just that's too surface level okay well what are your intentions my intentions yeah when you're

03:56:07.640 going on a date yeah um i mean i don't really know until after the first date right

03:56:11.880 like if uh if it didn't go well i mean my intentions can change okay i do have to move

03:56:16.840 it on just because we've been on this for a while but we do have lucas coming in here uh gal behind

03:56:21.400 brian to answer your question you know how my eventual wife got immediate chivalry from me she

03:56:26.280 brought me homemade greek cookies to our first date that was immediate wifey signal signaling from her

03:56:32.760 her that's from lucas appreciate it man here we're gonna just i'm gonna kind of blast through the

03:56:37.560 next few things gorlock the destroyer ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to

03:56:41.800 ten you can't pick seven lucas thank you for the message uh starting with you rate your own looks

03:56:46.200 on a scale of one to ten you cannot pick seven go ahead inconclusive what does that mean i don't

03:56:54.200 i don't i don't like this okay i feel like i don't know how to rate myself so i'd rather just not

03:57:09.160 uh question for you do you have a high preference in men no i actually love my short kings my ex was two

03:57:15.880 inches shorter than me i i feel like dismissing a man because they aren't over six feet they could

03:57:23.160 be a really good guy and you just don't know i really think it's so unfair when people are like

03:57:28.440 oh i won't date a man under six feet okay but what if that guy is like literally the perfect package you

03:57:32.760 just wouldn't know yeah i mean we can definitely have conversations about the arbitrary nature in

03:57:37.320 which we reject people based on superficial things like height or like other looks related things um

03:57:44.760 but i'm just so you don't make when it comes to picking like do you care about physical attraction

03:57:51.800 yeah but um i'm a demisexual so the first thing okay so the brain yeah brain uh wouldn't this just

03:57:57.560 be a measurement of their iq though so you're their height no their iq so like they're they lack a

03:58:04.280 certain amount of like brain synapses or some they're not intelligent enough like in order for

03:58:10.680 you to be attracted to somebody they have to be intelligent um you would be like disqualifying men

03:58:15.320 based on their intelligence which i think i hey that's fine um but you are able to make an assessment

03:58:20.520 of like one guy's more track or so intelligent than the other it's it's not like it's not a meter of

03:58:27.960 like how intelligent they are i want to be able to have like interesting conversations but okay

03:58:34.040 it's more so do i connect with you on like do stupid people usually have interesting conversations

03:58:40.920 what what is the basis of your statement well so you're saying like it seems like it's an iq indicator

03:58:46.760 because you want to have interesting conversations with them and you're saying well no it's not because

03:58:51.640 i want to have interesting conversations but that would seem to indicate that you think stupid people

03:58:55.720 can have really good conversations with you what's your what's your radar on a stupid person somebody

03:59:00.920 that didn't go to college no not at all in fact i think that the truly educated never graduate that

03:59:07.000 was a saying from my brother and i think it's a great one i like that no i don't ever base intelligence

03:59:12.840 around the idea of formal education which has become a standardization of lowering in order to get the

03:59:19.640 most asses and seeds but i'm still going to stick by the fact that i don't think that you are having

03:59:25.240 interesting conversations with stupid people you would probably agree that that's true right

03:59:33.080 i mean

03:59:36.200 i would never look at somebody and call them stupid so i think i'm kind of out of that i'm just trying

03:59:41.800 to you would no i would not anybody stupid you'd never call a single person stupid even if they're

03:59:47.160 really stupid i don't like to put people down that's just have you ever seen the movie idiocracy

03:59:54.120 no no okay so um let's see let me try to give another example because stupid is such a vast

04:00:02.600 thing what is stupid to you what's stupid to you might not be stupid to me can you just answer the

04:00:07.720 fucking question please oh you're so nice thank you for that i mean we have a really big panel i want

04:00:14.280 to like get to everybody there's a bunch of more i was just responding to the guy on the tv the

04:00:20.040 point i was trying to make is i'm trying to assess if you can like do rank ordering you make

04:00:24.520 categorizations you can assess hierarchies what does that have to do with my personal reading for myself

04:00:32.040 if you can categorize yourself do a self-assessment um but we're rating our looks correct yes i don't

04:00:41.880 want to rate my looks i feel like that's i don't okay that's fine can you like could you

04:00:48.840 i don't think i could no because i don't

04:00:54.760 no i don't think i could

04:00:58.520 okay um here i'm going to come back to you on the man in the tv is very disappointed with you right now

04:01:04.200 man of the tv the floating head on the television knows that you can do this it would just kind of be

04:01:10.520 difficult like no i'm not i like you don't personally know me you don't know like my personal

04:01:18.440 like backstory you don't know like that i was in the modeling industry for 12 years and it destroyed

04:01:23.000 my self-confidence like i don't want to rate myself that's just my personal preference so okay we'll come

04:01:30.200 back to it um pull it back up but you come back from that kind of trauma by rating yourself everybody

04:01:35.880 knows that exposure rate it's exposure you can rate me exposure therapy hold on hold on hold on

04:01:41.800 go ahead ten ten okay six all right eight six eight six six um six point one four also i'm gonna head

04:01:54.440 out thank you so much for having me oh you're why i want to smoke a cig oh do you want to come back

04:02:02.280 after you smoke the cig i'm really tired do you want to uh say why you're leaving um i'm only here

04:02:11.400 for a night and i want to smoke a cig on the beach which okay i mean that's all i mean we didn't even

04:02:22.360 get into your show notes so do you want to stay until we get through your show no i'm good thank you

04:02:27.560 so much for having me i'm really grateful for this i'm just exhausted thank you okay you can take

04:02:34.440 her seat then i like my seat because i can go to the bathroom well we'll have you join the panel um

04:02:41.000 hold on um going around the table hold on one second ten six

04:02:53.560 everybody here is at ten

04:02:57.560 would it be easy for you guys to like slide down and then yeah oh yeah right

04:03:03.560 yeah you can uh guys you can keep on now hold on i apologize so wait can you take can you take the

04:03:10.520 seat we're all gonna slide down no that's a terrible idea oh stay where you guys are seating

04:03:17.240 you just take the open seat okay i'm gonna get in there why would everybody slide that lid okay

04:03:22.520 because this is why this is why we need the patriarchy i leave for five seconds and the

04:03:28.520 the 12 collective female brains can't you want everybody to move a chair it's not it's literally

04:03:35.560 that literally makes no sense the most it's not difficult and then the most jump over the

04:03:39.560 rational and logical thing would be for all of you to stay in your existing seats and then for her to

04:03:45.960 take the now empty seat you don't you're not considerate it's because you're not considerate

04:03:50.440 considerate you don't have consideration i don't have consideration no you know obviously not because

04:03:55.800 you're no i'm literally i'm literally

04:03:59.960 why is that stupid we're considering her instead of her jumping around no we can just

04:04:05.960 shuffle okay cool so i'm literally like one male brain this is a 1v12 and i just literally

04:04:17.400 instantaneously was like that's a terrible idea terrible idea why would all of you get out of

04:04:23.720 your chair shift down we're not getting out doesn't make any sense we're just scooting scooting yeah that's

04:04:27.960 still a bad idea terrible idea terrible do you have ocd it seems like you're particular it well

04:04:36.760 i am completely within the realm gaslighting look if if you have like i i don't know 12 people shift

04:04:47.240 their chair versus one person shifting their chair which one's more effective one one thank you thank you

04:04:53.960 w women i agree with you w women you agree with me too many w the women who agree it's crazy that's

04:05:00.280 crazy see i'm with her i'm with jay how are you gonna shift six people when she could y'all just stay

04:05:05.960 where you're at i will say in theory in my mind she was gonna have to go this way to get on this chair

04:05:11.960 so i was like maybe if everyone's anyways okay um

04:05:16.760 okay so uh wow rage quit that was definitely a rage quit um good times yeah she was picking at

04:05:36.280 her nails the entire show so i was hoping for a rage quit i can't lie all right i do apologize i need

04:05:41.160 the ratings again because i was dealing with that so just tell tell me again real quick ten six eight

04:05:49.960 six eight ten six eight uh six but five without makeup i would say a four okay

04:06:02.760 eight eight eight eight okay so going back to you do you want to rate yourself or no um i'll rate

04:06:12.840 my personality no it's just looks um how about this we'll change it for you if a thousand men were in

04:06:18.600 a room average just it was an average amount of men and they had to rate you what would the average be

04:06:26.120 oh this gives me anxiety um why are you laughing oh look michael jones was ahead of me um

04:06:36.760 uh got it uh i don't know seven okay i thought we couldn't make seven all right oh

04:06:45.800 shit you're right okay okay okay i'll accept it 7.5 i'll accept it it's fine okay they would give you

04:06:51.080 they would give you a seven um all right we have we have 10 and then who is the other 10 you two are

04:06:58.840 the tens okay that's cool i do have a brief line of inquiry when you're done with this brian is it

04:07:04.920 related to the rating thing or yes yeah so go ahead mind i would just like a very quick show of hands

04:07:11.480 who said eight and above you said eight or eight and above okay quick epic yeah quick yeah quick

04:07:21.960 show of hands who said that they were below eight

04:07:28.040 okay so uh gal i'm gonna pick on one of you here a little bit forgive me for picking on i have to pick

04:07:32.680 somebody right to pick on so this would be uh i think nicole can you raise your hand nicole

04:07:37.640 just just say okay there you go what was the number that you picked i said six but five without

04:07:44.520 makeup got it okay now the eights raise your hand again okay now nicole look around at all of them

04:07:52.520 keep your hands up keep your hands up if you're nate look around all of them nicole are they all eights

04:07:57.160 no no okay why not uh i mean i don't want to give a cliche answer like beauty's in the eye of the

04:08:10.040 beholder but um when i think of a eight or above i think supermodel i think victoria's secret i think

04:08:19.000 gg had like gg and bella had it i i don't think okay nicole this is that this is going to be a

04:08:26.120 a little bit worse i asked this question please forgive me for this age raise your hand again

04:08:32.120 okay now do you see on the side of the table keep your hands up if you're an eight keep your hands up

04:08:39.160 okay uh so you see on the other side of the table you see the gallon pink and you see the other gals

04:08:45.080 who are raising their hands and saying that they're eight why isn't the gallon pink an eight and command

04:08:52.120 the other ones are eights are you asking are you asking me so uh sorry can you rephrase the question

04:09:02.040 yeah do you think that the gallon pink should raise her hand and say she's an eight if the other gals

04:09:07.960 are raising their hands and saying they're aids by assessment would there be a distinction that we

04:09:12.760 could make immediately for why one would be an eight one wouldn't be uh i think they're they're both

04:09:19.560 beautiful but and no i wouldn't be able to make that distinction for them nothing at all comes to

04:09:28.360 mind at all nothing between the two women in pink no between yeah between the two women in pink yes

04:09:37.480 well i mean there's youth for instance right i think that and this this show talks about that

04:09:42.760 often and i and i and i agree with that right the more youthful you nothing nothing else stands out

04:09:50.840 i don't i don't know what you're looking for particularly nothing i was just curious i just

04:09:55.240 i was just curious all right brian go ahead well what were you getting at andrew yeah we're curious

04:10:00.760 yeah man in the tv i wasn't getting at anything i just asked a series of inquiring questions mr box if

04:10:07.480 the standards if the standards of the eights matched up in the eye of the beholder for the

04:10:12.600 self-assessment because the whole point is to ask about delusion right now i would never besmirch nicole's

04:10:18.840 name by saying that an obvious answer came to her mind but she felt that saying it out loud would in some

04:10:25.400 way cause some kind of uh well i don't know emotional distress when it came to the pack right but i can

04:10:31.720 assure you that every human being who's watching this made a distinction immediately uh and and

04:10:39.400 knew exactly what the distinction was including nicole that's all that's all i'm saying i'm just

04:10:43.640 pointing that out i i think i know what you're talking about but then i look at beauty features

04:10:49.640 in the face and i think that one offsets the other so they're on equal playing field well what am i

04:10:54.200 talking about i think you're talking about weight well that's horrible why would you say that nicole

04:11:00.840 because i've watched the show i'm a fan of the show you're an awful person to go i know i'm evil

04:11:05.640 but uh you know that is fucking horrible so you should stop right now i should shouldn't i you're

04:11:11.560 besmirching the good name of the whatever podcast i'm going to turn smirched besmirched uh irving

04:11:18.040 thank you for the uh super chat appreciate it here i'll leave it up for a little longer and that was a

04:11:22.120 bit too quick uh leave it up for just a moment i have two chats coming in lucas says you can uh thank

04:11:28.120 you irving vasquez thank you given that women are by far more discerning and exacting in their

04:11:32.920 mate selection the mere fact that the woman agreed to go on a date with me means that i'm the prize

04:11:38.920 i'm the prize less of me and more of you and it's he says continued so his other message is coming

04:11:45.800 through and yes my billing rate is 1250 in hours yes i'm an attorney and unsurprisingly he's fanatically

04:11:54.120 patriarchal what kind of law do you do do you are you um maritime law lucas i think you're a maritime

04:12:00.360 attorney or are you like tree law i feel like you do tree law or maritime law or aviation law a lot of

04:12:09.080 money in aviation law something like that um thank you lucas so uh we got some we got some handsome

04:12:17.160 women at the table man got some tens we got some eights but let's but brian can we just remind the

04:12:23.160 audience that the most beautiful women in the entire world come to the whatever podcast i know

04:12:28.040 this because every time we ask them they tell us oh i didn't we didn't rate ourselves i'm a five what

04:12:34.120 about you andrew well i mean the consideration of so many eights and tens at the table i couldn't

04:12:39.240 possibly give myself anything less than a nine period i think people should think highly of themselves

04:12:46.120 yeah for sure yeah should they i think people should be insecure i'm just kidding i really

04:12:51.640 don't i'm kidding about that part i think people should be realistic though don't you think

04:12:57.720 yeah yeah but it really depends on what your standard is wait let me ask you girls a question

04:13:02.440 let's you you think people should think highly of themselves what about men should men think i

04:13:06.920 leave themselves absolutely i think should men but but how many y'all complain about you know y'all all

04:13:13.160 all of you know that dude who thinks he's hot but is not there's a difference between ego and

04:13:18.840 confidence then what there's a difference between being egotistical and confident like wouldn't like

04:13:24.440 let's say there's a girl who's like average and she's like i'm a 10 wouldn't that be egotistical

04:13:31.640 yeah sorry for interrupting you but i feel like it depends how she says it if she could be like oh i'm

04:13:36.040 a 10 or she could be like i think i'm a 10. i don't care like kind of different like i don't know

04:13:41.480 i feel like it's different but like let's so like let's say she's a five she's mid i don't care how

04:13:49.080 demure she says i'm a 10. she still ain't a 10. like she's still not a 10. what about personality though

04:13:57.000 what we're just talking about looks well you can fake it until you make it nobody's ugly

04:14:01.640 like nobody's ugly what do you think about donald trump would you hit here you want i can get you

04:14:07.080 a maga hat if you want throw that shit on i'll get you linked up hell yeah who here wants to

04:14:11.080 donald trump i she does look a he's a concrete he's the most powerful man in the world i guess

04:14:18.600 one of the most power the most powerful man not talk about him he's rich next he's rich i think a lot

04:14:24.280 of women even though he's old and you know chubby you know next i think a lot of women would

04:14:30.600 want to it sounds like you want to it sounds like you want to it sounds like you want to

04:14:35.320 donald trump i don't want to why are you turning red

04:14:41.080 caught me

04:14:45.800 elon musk where are you at i don't know

04:14:48.040 just trying to just trying to clap them cheeks you know just trying to just trying to you know

04:15:00.200 get in that oval office you know it's not the only thing that's okay never mind oh oh chill out

04:15:04.680 no chill out get your mind out of the gutter all right dahlia the baddest okay with the deep voice

04:15:13.480 don't talk deep for us oh my god let's talk deep what the all right well i guess i'm just confused

04:15:20.680 about this but um yeah we got some tens here ten ten who was the other ten was it it was you yeah i said

04:15:30.200 a ten how are you guys single and ten what the fuck how are you gonna be a ten and single i was

04:15:36.440 hello i loved you you never had a boyfriend right and you're what 23 yeah how are you gonna be 23

04:15:43.720 and a 10 and never had a boyfriend are you just too picky what's up i don't know i don't know i don't

04:15:49.640 want to deal with like men are stressful men are stressful why deal with stress like when i can avoid

04:15:54.520 it so i just choose you should become a nun i love it i love that for you just become a nun uh you

04:16:00.520 know what here we're gonna do oh we're doing no we got we got another thing on this so going around

04:16:05.720 the table do you think you'll be better looking better looking in 10 years time starting with you

04:16:12.280 you're 28 better looking in 10 years time at 38 uh yes okay uh 20 years time 48 better looking

04:16:20.200 i think if you take care of yourself you can age beautifully sure uh 30 years time 58 sure

04:16:29.640 40 years time 48 i plan on looking good for my age bracket throughout my lifetime sure yeah so i like

04:16:36.440 women can they're they can still be attractive 30 40 50s but the question is plastic i've never had

04:16:42.440 plastic surgery oh yeah so absolutely so just to be clear like absent plastic surgery you think you'll

04:16:47.640 be just as good looking uh at 68 as you will now at 28 for a 68 year old sure no but oh you mean

04:16:55.800 right now no that's impossible so i guess what i'm saying is compared to you now okay at 28 so in 10

04:17:04.360 years time will you at 38 will you be better looking than you are now at 28 i don't know maybe who knows

04:17:15.000 what do you think i think i don't know if you had to venture a guess if you just had to guess

04:17:26.920 i know you don't know so i'm not asking for a definitive i'm just i just want to guess

04:17:32.680 i think it all depends on how i take care of myself

04:17:35.480 let's say do you want me to say no because it seems like you really want no i want you to say

04:17:41.080 whatever you think the truth is no but like i don't want you to give me the answer you want me

04:17:45.400 to say no well actually that's what i'm gauging actually if you really wanted me if you really

04:17:51.000 wanted to know what i wanted you to say it would be for you to say yes and for you to say yes that

04:17:56.920 you're going to be better looking at 152 or 158 right 209 that's actually my prime that's actually

04:18:03.400 what i would want because that's a great clip but i just want what i want is the truth

04:18:11.800 the truth is i don't fucking know bro okay so you um have you consumed like um magazines like

04:18:22.280 celebrity magazines or like have you seen pictures of celebrities when they were younger older yes and

04:18:27.640 you have like friends who have gotten older you've seen people when they were young maybe you've seen

04:18:33.080 maybe people currently who are in their 60s you've seen photos of them when they're in their 20s for

04:18:38.040 sure sure based on this information that you've been exposed to you can probably make to some degree

04:18:44.520 determinations as to hmm if i'm comparing them at 20 to 60 has there been changes in their physical

04:18:51.240 appearance do they look better do they look worse were they more attractive when they were younger

04:18:56.440 you've probably had those thoughts go through your mind so what i'm asking is based off of you've been

04:19:01.400 alive for 28 years based off of your own lived experience and what you've been exposed to in the

04:19:06.200 media and in photographs make a determination i can't believe i have to like actually articulate this

04:19:13.000 um just make a simple determination if you think people tend to become become more attractive as they

04:19:20.760 age i think it depends how you take care of yourself so just to be clear let's say

04:19:29.400 there's a there's the top percentile the 99th percentile of here's this person who has unlimited

04:19:35.720 resources they're super rich and they take care of themselves they never have they never get any sun

04:19:41.320 exposure they eat perfectly really good diet they don't drink

04:19:49.160 they're 20 years old compared to their 100 year old self if i had to ask you which one of them do you

04:19:55.640 think would look better okay which to be fair you like stopped at 40 years and you didn't get to a

04:20:02.680 hundred so no but i'm that's fine but which one do you think of those two is better looking the 20

04:20:09.320 year old or probably the 20 year old because most people don't live to a hundred let's say they did

04:20:14.120 live 200 and they were still alive depends if the scientific advancements make it so that you de-age

04:20:20.600 sure okay let's remove let's remove a transhumanist future where you can literally reverse aging okay

04:20:27.480 what you know as it currently stands when it comes to scientific intervention oh my god um when it comes to

04:20:35.320 some good what exists like right now you can't take a hundred year old woman and make her look 20 how

04:20:42.840 do you how do i know because trust me whoever invents that is literally the world's richest person

04:20:50.680 maybe not a hundred but let's take a really close look at share come on now how old is she like 70

04:20:56.040 something that woman looks great post-surgery oh for sure but she looks great holy shit bro

04:21:05.560 okay here i'm gonna just okay i'm just gonna go through it and i'll just whatever answer you give

04:21:10.920 i'm just gonna accept it you're 28 in 10 years time will you be better looking at 38 yes 20 years time

04:21:18.680 48 sure 30 years time 58 who knows 40 years time 68 only god can tell are you even religious 50 years

04:21:27.160 time 78 are you a satanist i don't know whoa 60 years time no i am not what are you i am united

04:21:35.960 unitarian that's beautiful 60 years time 88 we're at 88 now i don't know maybe you don't oh

04:21:45.800 shit she doesn't know okay uh 70 years time 98 damn that's grandma shit that's some milf that's

04:21:52.520 that's not that's yes yeah i'm gonna be a gilf i don't know damn right okay 100 108 80 years time

04:22:00.200 fuck yeah let's go higher 209

04:22:08.200 okay um okay okay cool good talk that was good that was good that was

04:22:15.640 good that was definitely a good faith exchange what about you sorry repeat the question uh you're

04:22:21.320 22 or wait one last question one last question you're 28 were you better looking 10 years ago

04:22:27.880 at 18 or are you better looking now no of course no i was an awkward turtle of course all right you're

04:22:34.120 22 better looking in 10 years time at 32 probably yes 20 years time 42 no okay you're 22 better looking

04:22:41.400 in 10 years time at 32 no okay you're 27 better looking in 10 years time at 37 no and then you're

04:22:49.000 27 better looking uh at 18 or better looking now yeah the stress is killing me the the what i said the

04:22:55.400 stress is killing my it's aging me so you were better looking at 18 yeah okay uh you're 23 better

04:23:01.560 looking in 10 years time at 33 probably not okay uh i moved you guys around but you are 40 better

04:23:08.120 looking in 10 years time at 50 uh no okay and then going 10 years back were you better looking

04:23:13.480 at 30 versus now 40 just slightly slightly and then uh now to 20 20 years back better looking at 20

04:23:20.840 versus 40 a little bit a little better yeah between 20 and 30 what's better at 30 versus 20 i looked but i

04:23:30.200 looked good i think like 25 to 37 i pretty much look the same most of that time so so better looking at

04:23:37.960 30 i looked better a little bit older like 25 to 30 uh 20 you're 23 right uh wait hold on oh okay i

04:23:47.800 see what happened here i'm gonna just change oh shit uh better looking in 10 years time at 33 into the

04:23:53.000 mic yeah i feel like 30s are still your prime years still the prime uh 20 years time 33 or 43 no i

04:23:59.320 don't think those are okay you're 25 but or wait hold on wait i wish what the hell i got my my

04:24:04.680 shit's all fucked up wait 20 42 42 sorry my thing got all messed up uh yeah yeah yeah better looking

04:24:12.520 in 10 years time at 52 probably not are we you have these pulled up damien the advance yeah

04:24:19.160 gender swap too yeah okay uh sorry you said probably not yeah and then 10 years back 32 better looking at

04:24:25.320 32 or 42 now and then 20 years back 22 versus 42 now and then 22 versus 32 now i'm i feel like i'm at

04:24:35.320 my best now at 42 between like my 36 to now is i feel has been my prime okay got it uh you're 23 better

04:24:46.360 looking in 10 years time at 33. no okay you're 36 better looking in 10 years time at 46. no uh 36 to 26

04:24:56.680 better looking 10 years ago uh closer to the mic please i think i'm actually better looking now

04:25:02.840 that i was at 26. uh 23 better looking in 10 years time at 33. are you talking to me yeah yeah yeah oh i'm

04:25:10.360 i'm going around sorry um you're 21 okay my bad yeah no it's okay i i think i'll be better looking

04:25:15.320 then um at 31. yeah i mean i a year ago i weighed 55 pounds more so i'm actively losing weight and

04:25:22.520 trying to better myself so i think i'll look better in the future if you stayed the exact same weight you

04:25:26.760 are now would you be better looking at 31. no okay uh you are how did my man sorry my you're 26 uh

04:25:34.200 better looking in 10 years time at 36. yes 20 years time 46. no okay all right there we have it

04:25:40.120 folks uh you know what we we got somebody at the bathroom so i'm gonna let these chats in but we've

04:25:44.520 all age advanced all of you so lucas says the crazy irony here is that nicole who rated herself a five

04:25:52.200 or six is hands down and by far the most attractive who's nicole oh okay not even close funny how she's

04:26:00.600 also wifey and mommy too i took some milk wait what thanks lucas funny that the humble attractive

04:26:10.040 pick pick oh he has a follow-up pick me got the pick me got picked

04:26:17.240 uh started out as a maritime aviation structure finance attorney wow how did i know that fate i'm

04:26:23.160 a psychic uh 25 years ago thankfully moved into commercial real estate hey lucas thank you you know

04:26:29.240 lucas i have a dispute i have a dispute a real estate dispute with a with santa barbara county

04:26:39.320 talk to me talk to me all right um we have law fest that's uh yep okay damien be so kind as to pull

04:26:47.560 up the age advancements all right guys we have used the power holy

04:26:55.480 fair

04:26:58.280 i think that one's slightly uncharitable just a little bit i mean that seems valid

04:27:03.880 i don't think so i that's valid she said a hundred she said a hundred look i look like that at a

04:27:12.040 hundred like bless me because that's not terrible okay no that's not terrible for a hundred come on

04:27:18.040 it's not bad for a hundred like a false that's like that's like a meth 60 like that's a meth like you

04:27:23.800 looking good if you're on meth at 60 there that's like a meth 60 but like a that you could be anyways

04:27:30.760 whatever next i really don't think she'll even have whoa what the fuck that is like the ugliest

04:27:35.000 thing i've ever seen damn bro say that that's brutal i hope i really hope i look like a witch

04:27:41.160 no you kind of do i do that's crazy they did you dirty that that did me dirty

04:27:48.120 how did the nose how did the nose oh my god oh shit that's your future wait look she's she can't

04:27:54.600 believe that that's disgusting whoa that's your future though like yeah you don't look terrible

04:28:00.520 what not at all like the middle one i can see my jowls from here but like the middle one can get

04:28:05.880 it yeah the middle no the middle one cannot get it no one can get it i'm at my prime and i wish i could

04:28:10.840 stay here forever but i can't enjoy it enjoy it i'm trying enjoy enjoy your youth you know

04:28:17.800 because next because that's scary oh my god why is it like shrinking all right there you go okay

04:28:27.000 next oh shit i knew it was gonna do me like this you're a brunette uh hayley bieber by the way you

04:28:35.240 you look identical to her but i've never seen it oh my gosh i'm gonna go home the whole time i'm

04:28:40.600 like that to hayley bieber haley i mean i don't know where they get it but i have i'm with you

04:28:46.680 i'm with you on this one i don't get it i don't see it i don't see it i don't see it i've been told

04:28:50.760 lady gaga and that one made a lot more sense i don't see that i don't see the lady gaga you're

04:28:56.760 like the hotter version of lady gaga yeah because i really don't think whatever that means i don't

04:29:01.240 know next no oh well she should have stayed for this one she just she just couldn't handle it you

04:29:10.520 know she couldn't handle it all right so much for that animal print um okay okay not the head in the

04:29:19.240 back all right there you go scary i mean honestly that's not that bad it's not that bad i mean

04:29:26.840 like like sleep paralysis i would i would scream oh shit i can't scream but that's crazy can we see

04:29:34.840 yours oh yeah we'll see you'll see mine next oh she is not happy uh okay next

04:29:58.040 no you look great oh not bad here you go all right graceful age why is it like shrinking everyone's

04:30:04.440 face i know i don't know that's a good question next oh god you're cute nice okay next

04:30:14.520 okay there you go there you go okay you got some white teeth i'll take it there you go next

04:30:21.880 okay why does it do that to the nose there you go yeah i don't know it's a big

04:30:26.120 thing you get everything when you get older really yeah i hope at all yeah that's what

04:30:30.840 next oh my god damn hey redo my shit bro

04:30:36.680 like a picture from years ago redo my

04:30:41.240 redo my shit do it again give me a better one wait you took it down too fast

04:30:45.480 oh okay the analyzer there you go yeah you look nice santa claus damn bro santa claus yes

04:30:54.280 you know what though i'll be happy if i keep my hair like that like if i keep that hair like you

04:30:58.600 keep hair fair yeah because i could shit i i might be losing i'm i'm losing a little bit like right here

04:31:03.880 you know so it's really i don't think so i feel like you have a full head of hair no right now i'm not

04:31:08.360 doing anything but i i do have a full head of hair now but it's getting a little you know it's

04:31:14.760 thinning or whatever so i don't know fingers crossed how old are you 35. okay damn damn

04:31:22.200 you know i don't know why you're like george clooney like um do we have gender yeah all right let's do

04:31:30.200 gender swap all right so while you guys while you guys are looking at the gender swaps

04:31:36.040 i want i'm gonna ask the question will you perform sorry what the bad no it's all good okay what the

04:31:46.760 excuse me excuse you andrew would you date the male version of you that's the question go ahead

04:31:56.120 can you make us uh smaller like right small okay i don't feel like this is accurate

04:32:03.320 move us to the corner all it did is you can just drag it wait no no grab it no

04:32:09.160 yeah right there yeah drag it i know that's what i'm saying it like morphs your face

04:32:16.200 yeah oh wait i think you should i think you got the wrong one damn bro somebody obs hello

04:32:24.760 we gotta move it here put us in the other corner get rid of right small do left corner why not

04:32:29.640 that's fine sure uh would you date the male version of you no why not because i don't like

04:32:40.120 i'm not attracted straight into the mic sorry i'm not attracted to the way that you're not attracted to

04:32:46.360 yourself that's up bro i don't i you should see a therapist for that go ahead sorry sorry go ahead go

04:32:53.880 i prefer to i'm not hmm how do i word this what what if he's really smart though like he's you're

04:33:02.680 demisexual right like demi whatever 200 iq 200 iq and you guys can have really interesting

04:33:09.960 conversations date people because of their iq because they're because you're don't have to have

04:33:14.440 a 200 iq to have a good conversation sexual i thought or demisexual is having an emotional and

04:33:21.960 intellectual connection you can't you can't see yourself having an emotional intelligence

04:33:25.640 connection first of all i don't i'm not attracted to blondes so there's that second of all i don't

04:33:31.000 like it's hair you don't like what i'm not a facial hair person well that gives you two options

04:33:37.080 well the other one has half of an ear so hey how are you gonna he was he was in a terrible train

04:33:45.160 accident train accident a train accident how are you gonna hey he's he's maimed you're gonna

04:33:51.640 discriminate off of somebody who's maimed yeah wow i that's really superficial of you that's crazy

04:33:58.040 wow i'm offended and i just want to why because you have facial hair no it was about the ear thing my

04:34:04.760 ears are intact what the fuck i'm just saying as somebody who is a representative of like the missing

04:34:11.800 ear community i feel offended on their behalf like i'm an ally i don't have a missing ear but i'm an

04:34:17.480 ally and i feel offended that you're oh i wouldn't date somebody because their ear is missing what if

04:34:22.360 they were in a fight with mike tyson what if that happens you ever think about that that's a cool

04:34:26.200 i'm not attracted to people guys to what i'm not to white i'm not all the truth comes out i'm not like

04:34:33.880 i'm sorry my ex was half mexican like that's that's half i like a little bit of spice

04:34:39.800 the other half native american white why what so you you like hated that the white part i'm just

04:34:47.640 everybody how do you feel about white people tell us how you feel there's a lot of white people at

04:34:50.520 this table right now you're sitting next to a white person i think you should think i don't know what

04:34:55.160 she could be like some latina or something i don't know there's some latina in there

04:34:59.240 or like i don't know if anything that's gonna cancel him i think she's black irish what what

04:35:03.800 huh huh huh oh my god

04:35:12.280 so you you don't like white people no that's not what i hate white people that is not what i said

04:35:17.560 you're oh you don't date white people is what you said i think i have a preference what's your

04:35:23.800 preference black men asian you like asian guys i know one i'll get you linked up

04:35:31.080 he's vietnamese you know i would probably say the only type of man that i wouldn't date

04:35:35.720 is somebody that's like straight men oh

04:35:40.600 that was a good one

04:35:45.640 oh my god you're religious that's so good thank you thank you i you know what i wasn't but now i've

04:35:51.000 just converted um i'm now actually an orthodox christian now that you that's really good i'm

04:35:56.040 glad good job on converting yeah thank you that was quick so you wouldn't date is because i'm white

04:36:01.000 no it's it's because of all my other negative characteristics i get it

04:36:06.040 well at least you acknowledge it thank you thank you i appreciate it uh so uh

04:36:12.920 but you don't like white guys why why is that i didn't say i don't like like i thought you said you

04:36:18.680 don't date white guys did i not i'm not i'm being gaslight here but you've been gaslighting me all

04:36:23.240 night okay that's crazy son okay has she yo ladies has she been gaslighting me she's been gaslighting

04:36:29.960 me right here i'm gonna only ask you because i feel like we're on the same team

04:36:35.000 like i can't trust these other girls to i don't think she's been gaslighting you

04:36:38.120 she's been gas thank you you're gaslighting me now bro why are you gaslighting she's

04:36:41.720 gaslighting me that's crazy gaslighting isn't real doesn't exist that's not true

04:36:46.200 that's a joke so but you oh you would not date you wouldn't date the male version of you no because

04:36:52.760 i also don't find like sharp features attracted like if a guy has my nose like a pointed nose i

04:36:59.240 don't that's not i don't like that i get that i like button noses like that's that's my thing i

04:37:04.440 like more rounder features when it comes to like guys that i'm attracted to that's just i mean bruv

04:37:11.720 that's pretty soft it's soft he's soft there are we seeing the same picture the jawline

04:37:18.600 like this ain't chiseled fucking this ain't no chiseled crazy come on bro that's a soft face

04:37:25.160 that's okay let me ask you a question that's a soy boy let me ask you a question since you said that

04:37:29.480 you were like mutually attracted to trump right is that what would you date him i'm not gay bro he

04:37:37.320 said he wanted to clap his cheeks yeah you did let's turn this around you said you wanted to

04:37:42.840 clap trump's cheeks i said you got a little blushy too oh you guys trapped me here because when i

04:37:50.360 said a joke you're gonna hold me to the joke uh yeah no i'm not i'm not uh i'm not attracted to

04:37:57.160 donald trump but you want to clap his cheeks sure do you know what would you like me to pull up the

04:38:03.800 definition of a joke just to help you out i know you're a bit i'll get you caught up to speed i know

04:38:08.200 you're a bit slow but i'll get you caught up i can get you caught up let's put damien pull up the

04:38:12.840 definition of a joke pull it up you also said demisexual wrong twice oh i mispronounced a word

04:38:20.680 i apologize you're calling me slow but you mispronounced a word oh i didn't know

04:38:27.640 yeah you did the same same that's fair but i'm also demi demi you know what i bet some person who

04:38:38.520 uh who focuses what's what's the term somebody who does etymology maybe is it etymology etymology

04:38:47.720 i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure okay are you mispronouncing we're being we're being we're

04:38:55.080 being pedantic here tonight so i know to make sure that we got it right right i'm pretty sure you know

04:39:01.080 we can come to different determinations as to the correct precise correct pronunciation of

04:39:09.240 demi demi it's i don't know it's pretty racist anyway ever because uh very English language

04:39:15.160 right that is true english is my second language and the fact you know it was it would be as if i

04:39:20.920 was like a a mexican and i mispronounced a word and she was like whoa that's not how we pronounce

04:39:30.040 that here in america english is my second language what is your i did try to get this that's not how

04:39:35.800 we do things in america kind of vibe going off that yeah that was a little bit like go back to your

04:39:40.280 country yeah a little bit like get out of here this is just for us over here we speak english here

04:39:46.360 that was like uh we speak english i don't know did we get the definition of a joke by the way can we

04:39:53.240 pull that up a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter especially a story with a funny

04:39:57.960 punchline make jokes talk humorously or flippantly oh okay that's interesting like when you watch stand-up

04:40:04.440 comedy i guess this applies to you too like when the comedian says something you just you guys assume

04:40:10.520 he's like it's true like he's what do you mean him it could be a really funny female comic brian

04:40:19.960 did you ever think about the fact it could be a really funny female comic brian no you didn't

04:40:24.520 it's a fair point i am not being inclusive and i apologize to you andrew because you

04:40:30.840 you that matters to you inclusivity so i'm sorry

04:40:39.160 okay um let's do the rest of the uh she wouldn't say the white guy nope okay we get it next

04:40:47.880 what the

04:40:52.440 i wouldn't even glance in his direction

04:40:56.040 really no what if the hair was different like the face is okay but is the hair just

04:41:01.320 all fucked up no wow it looks like um looks like an uglier version of like my father wow that is

04:41:11.720 no like not saying my father's ugly but you know it's an uglier version yeah yeah

04:41:16.440 it's kind of speaking to my spanish dreams would you would you hit i'd get on a yacht with him for

04:41:29.640 sure a yacht yeah he's gotta be rich he's not ugly yeah he's not big skies but i think he's pretty ugly

04:41:36.840 she's kind of she's splooshing over there so if you ever transition give her a call

04:41:48.760 oh next so you wouldn't date you wouldn't date him hey it's kind of you guys kind of relate next

04:41:55.000 or sorry not next uh would you date date this guy no no you wouldn't really

04:41:59.080 okay with the eye all right all right next gave you like a black guy for no reason like wait i mean

04:42:09.000 the hair last one he looks familiar he does look familiar why do we know that man i mean you got

04:42:14.600 like an afro i don't know why they gave you an afro honestly i would hit the oh okay i i maybe would

04:42:23.320 but like he needs to change his hairstyle because the middle part does not work for him the hair's

04:42:27.400 fucked up yeah the hair was different though like the rest of it he's not that bad actually i

04:42:31.800 expected worse from this do you like the lettuce haircut that the guys have like that little lettuce

04:42:36.040 thing the lettuce the lettuce wait are you talking about like the guys with like curly hair and they

04:42:39.960 like i don't know what it is i know what you're talking about like the gen z layered over yes yeah

04:42:44.920 like the lettuce okay next you guys don't know what the lettuce oh i'm gonna say she would not

04:42:53.400 date this guy next he looks like a pilot oh that one looks like way too masculine too

04:43:01.000 whoa hold on hold up hold up are you sure all right no what i'm trying to say he looks gay i'm not

04:43:09.320 gonna lie he looks gay no you're not a pink shirt he looks like he couldn't say that yeah that kind

04:43:17.000 of looks like taylor lautner in the middle stop tripping um yeah he looks gay i guess but when you

04:43:25.320 did no you get too masculine from this why does it why does he have a big like weird bald spot on the

04:43:32.520 side i don't even know it's the ai it's the ai you know okay so you wouldn't into the mic no would

04:43:42.280 not date him okay next no then is this too big oh he's cute not bad okay would you date him now if

04:43:49.320 you were single if you were single no because he looks too much i'd go out with you you'd feel like

04:43:53.640 like creeped out like creeped out because he looks but like let's say look but let's say with the

04:43:59.160 you know for a fact you're not related i know you look alike but you're not related 100 you guys got

04:44:06.520 dna tests done before i don't know i don't like mustaches no but there's the there's two options

04:44:12.520 there's beard no beard no okay she wouldn't do it okay next you know what i don't know would you do

04:44:21.640 it damn i have that big of a nose that's kind of crazy wait the nose didn't even look big okay um

04:44:29.640 he looks too wholesome oh yeah you need a little toxic yeah a little toxic you know all right

04:44:38.360 next it looks like you play soccer not bad not bad you'd be cute you would be cute

04:44:44.280 i would smash you wouldn't date no you wouldn't date him no that's crazy okay it's like okay it's

04:44:51.960 like all right next oh god damn nice yeah no you wouldn't you wouldn't do it really no he doesn't

04:45:00.680 look like my boyfriend so no what if you were single if you were single no it looks like he honestly

04:45:07.720 kind of looks like my brother it's kind of like a doga next oh shit that's the supermodel right

04:45:20.360 a hundred percent there you go okay that's the best one yeah okay should i transition oh is there

04:45:27.160 next oh wait oh okay i see i see okay would you would you hit no would you date no would you

04:45:35.480 no no no nothing okay all right next

04:45:42.680 what

04:45:43.000 that's crazy hey thank you for thinning her up a little bit though i appreciate that

04:45:50.760 they used to make make her a little chubbier but they didn't even have the same features as you

04:45:55.240 i feel like they used a different way more for you yeah yeah you made yourself look better

04:46:00.120 come on what are you talking about which one you face tuned these well the first one

04:46:06.120 the the first one the on the that's no no no no it's just that's what happens when women are

04:46:11.880 wearing makeup right what brian's feminine features would be plus makeup and so you don't believe it

04:46:19.240 because same reason we should believe you guys when you're wearing makeup just point that out

04:46:23.640 that's a really good point andrew all right it looks like megan like you know have you watched that

04:46:28.920 movie megan yeah it looks like not the evil doll i mean they put they put way too much makeup on you

04:46:35.640 know but all right let's see the next what about andrew do we oh shit wow holy shit on the right

04:46:44.680 i am a good looking not bad not bad

04:46:51.240 that's gonna get clipped oh shit oh boy put it back up put it back up let's see it again

04:46:58.280 make it a little bigger a little bigger yeah i'm way too good for myself

04:47:03.160 other than mismatched like eyebrows on the right like you need a little botox

04:47:07.000 makeup no no no but you just you got botched by some bad botox on the right

04:47:12.760 i think the chick chick me is way hotter than you oh

04:47:16.120 i'll be fine fair fair fair i'll take it did you see did you see chick version of me way better

04:47:21.640 looking yes but guy version of me is better looking than you so

04:47:29.000 hang on there's young andrew right young andrew's young chick version of himself way better looking

04:47:36.840 way better come on for sure yeah no way totally but like yeah me as a dude is better looking than

04:47:45.480 you as a young guy so yeah it goes both ways

04:47:49.320 yeah but but we it's always relational so i can look at myself at your age and then the reverse

04:47:55.880 gender better looking and then we can assume based on the pictures that we have of you when you're older

04:48:01.400 right that's still the chick version of me older still better looking than you so boom oh roasted

04:48:10.520 mic drop is there anything else damien or is that it all right you can exile those uh let's see what

04:48:16.280 else we have we got to get through the rest of the notes here what all of the notes all of the

04:48:21.560 notes oh shit ain't that something uh okay here we're gonna get through the rest of the notes we did

04:48:30.200 abby we did libya labia we did liz paula uh you okay uh you would like to clear the air clarify things

04:48:43.560 for the men out there listening who are constantly angry about women's standards

04:48:49.480 yeah i think that there's some kind of i think that some men get confused and they're taking it

04:48:56.680 to the extreme and they think that if a woman raises their standards that they're extremely high

04:49:02.360 and i think like for me i think my standards are reasonable what are your standards just i i like a

04:49:09.720 guy who's takes care of his health you know he's fit or some somewhat fit um just has his

04:49:15.640 shit together um has goals um financially stable and mentally um mature and has a relationship with god

04:49:27.080 okay um and you haven't been able to find that um certain parts yes it's hard to find all of it

04:49:35.000 though wrapped in one okay yeah uh you said that you perhaps had a uh quarrel with women losing value

04:49:43.720 as they age women losing options as they age and also you wrote men wanting younger women not always

04:49:51.400 true younger doesn't necessarily mean hotter our prime doesn't our prime doesn't end strictly at 30.

04:50:00.200 yeah i think you can extend it a little bit past 30. it's not like 33 year olds and a 30 year old

04:50:05.240 are wildly different in looks i mean i always pretty much look the same i think it does matter how you

04:50:09.640 take care of yourself i would say if you gained like 30 pounds or something like that at 33 yeah you're

04:50:15.160 going to look a little worse but overall age pretty slowly as long as you take care of yourself but i'm

04:50:20.840 a bit so and remind me your question to the looks or the aging question yeah uh you said you're 42 40 or

04:50:31.400 40. you said better looking at 50 or no no and then but you said 30 was your prime area uh 25 to like

04:50:41.080 37 i think is pretty solid yeah pretty similar and you feel like your options you've gotten you've your

04:50:48.680 options have increased as you've gotten older um i think it's pretty much been the same been the same

04:50:54.600 no changes like did men do more for you when you were 20 versus now no i think i tolerated um

04:51:05.480 i tolerated things i shouldn't have and i think that just has to do with um like my previous standards

04:51:11.800 and yeah it's just the things i tolerated okay so and you said uh men wanting younger women not always

04:51:21.640 true i mean i don't disagree there are men who a lot of younger men that date older women i hear about

04:51:28.920 it a lot and they're in relationships with them too i've seen it i mean my last my ex-boyfriend was 25

04:51:35.640 when i was 37 yeah i don't dispute that it happens um but do you think generally speaking typically

04:51:44.760 you think men would you agree that men tend to prefer younger women yeah generally yeah okay yeah

04:51:51.160 all right well i don't know if there's much dispute there uh younger doesn't necessarily mean hotter yeah

04:51:59.720 i think it depends like i said it depends on how you take care of yourself just because um

04:52:05.240 can i can ask you a question though like when it comes to like the biological reality of having kids

04:52:11.240 though yeah uh even if we just remove looks from it don't you think men are gonna make it like if

04:52:16.760 you're a 40 year old guy who wants to have kids don't you think it's he's more likely to try to pursue

04:52:23.160 like a woman in her early 30s or late 20s when it comes to kids maybe you can still have kids at 40

04:52:30.440 just to be clear but the fertility uh like it does start decreasing it does i think um i think it

04:52:39.240 depends i don't i don't know i don't know what men are thinking i don't know if they look at me and

04:52:44.200 and think oh she probably can't have kids i don't know if they're making that assumption i

04:52:47.640 never heard that before i don't think they would say yeah so i don't really know um

04:52:53.640 oh they don't they're not going to assume things that way right no this is not a this it's not a

04:52:59.640 thing which we're mentally going through the idea is just um when you're talking about attraction

04:53:06.440 youthful features are obviously going to be more attractive because that's correlated with fertility

04:53:11.400 that's exactly why you would understand attraction to be the way it was obviously from even an

04:53:17.560 evolutionary standpoint we we wouldn't be attracted to things that we didn't want to reproduce with

04:53:23.160 right if that wouldn't make any sense so if if men are looking at younger women as being more attractive

04:53:29.720 likely it's it's tied into fertility right that makes sense um that might we're not we're not like

04:53:35.800 cognitively doing it in other words yeah like it's like it's like a um it's not a conscious conscious

04:53:41.880 thing right it's just kind of like yeah but what i'm saying is like just because you're 22 doesn't

04:53:48.280 necessarily mean you're automatically hot not everyone's good looking you you can be an ugly 22

04:53:54.040 year old man or woman we wouldn't make the concession here that that is indeed true right that

04:54:00.200 not that's what i mean 22 year old is hot right right right but can you make the concession that

04:54:04.440 there's a hell of a lot more hot 22 year olds than there are 42 year olds um probably yeah then

04:54:10.600 i then we're not even arguing anything at this point right you're just essentially saying that youthful

04:54:15.000 fertility is attractive to men have you frozen your eggs no no all right guys read 100 tts is 200

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04:55:38.120 i'm gonna try real quick i just wonder if i could finish very quickly this exchange i was just wondering

04:55:42.920 something there's a theory which is out there because you and i were just discussing younger

04:55:48.600 um you know younger women versus older women and you said you know not necessarily do i think that

04:55:54.760 men would be going after the younger woman over the older woman a prominent theory which is out there

04:55:59.800 is that women who are single and were in their late 30s or early 40s often say this because they're

04:56:06.200 trying to root out competition by shaming men by saying men shouldn't be attracted to women who are

04:56:11.800 younger than they are especially by a significant age gap because they actually want to secure those

04:56:16.280 men for themselves would you would you say that there's any merit to that i mean i'm not i'm

04:56:22.600 definitely not shaming men i mean i'm always younger than someone there's like 50 year olds that are

04:56:27.240 sometimes interested so you're always younger than someone i wouldn't say i'm not shaming men for liking

04:56:32.440 younger women at all yeah but i mean there you don't see a problem with that right like if there was a

04:56:39.480 if there was a 22 year old woman who was dating let's say a 44 year old man you don't um so i'm

04:56:45.480 not i don't the age here we go here we go here we go you gave me the the ick face yeah wait let me

04:56:52.680 me face i got a feeling you're gonna have a problem with it no no no i don't have a problem with age gap

04:56:58.600 relationships um i just think like women 25 24 i would say 24 and under i think it's a little creepy

04:57:08.280 when men in their 40s are going for like a 20 year old i think that what about men in their 30s so

04:57:12.360 so hang on what you just said was you did you did shaming of men huh so what you just you literally

04:57:19.240 just contradicted yourself because you're shaming men you're saying if men go after women who are

04:57:25.480 let's say they're 44 they go after a woman who's 24 right yes within your criteria they're 20 years

04:57:31.320 younger you are now shaming those men you say that's extreme listen to the word hang on here's a verb

04:57:35.960 it's creepy right why shouldn't we assume that the reason that you think that is because if women

04:57:42.040 or men who are in that age bracket who would be a prime target for you uh you're just super jealous

04:57:47.640 that they're going for the 24 year why shouldn't that be assumed no definitely not jealous i think

04:57:51.960 that women that young what makes it creepy um because i think they can't women that young are very

04:57:57.720 vulnerable and naive they don't know how to look for red flags they don't know how to discern and i think

04:58:02.840 they're very prone and vulnerable to being taken advantage of especially by an older man and i've

04:58:08.360 seen it before i haven't one point at a time my counter to your first point is is that i don't

04:58:12.840 think four-year-old women do any better i don't think four-year-old single women do any better when

04:58:17.000 it comes to singling out red flags and this so they wouldn't be single to begin with

04:58:22.120 no yes i'm much better at discerning red flags now than i was when i was younger that's why would the

04:58:27.960 24 year old be able to secure a man and secure his assets when the 40 year old single woman has not

04:58:33.480 been able to if they're so great at figuring out what's a red flag and what isn't how do you know

04:58:38.200 there's a 24 year old that's secured a 40 something year old man like what because it's entailed in

04:58:43.320 a hypothetical single 40 year old women upset because 40 year old man going out with 24 year old woman

04:58:49.560 this means 24 year old woman has secured man you say no i just think it's creepy because she can't

04:58:54.440 make the decisions on red flags but it's like but then why would you be single at 40 if you could

04:59:00.200 because there's not enough men that are mentally mature enough and i haven't found a man that doesn't

04:59:05.240 have any sort of toxicity or emotional maturity mature enough then should they be with younger more

04:59:10.200 immature women yeah sure okay but not 44 year olds well wait what that makes no sense

04:59:20.760 well that but that makes no sense like if they're not mature enough to be with a woman of your caliber

04:59:28.520 at 40 then why wouldn't they be with somebody who was more mentally on their level i think you know

04:59:34.040 younger i don't think i'm not saying like the 44 year olds emotionally necessarily mature i just think

04:59:39.240 they have more awareness and they're aware of the fact that they easier to control a younger woman easier

04:59:45.240 to manipulate her she probably doesn't have as have really any self-respect or standards and she's

04:59:50.840 just more vulnerable to being taking advantage of that's all i'm saying so you would advise those

04:59:55.720 younger women not to go out those older men i would tell them to be careful yeah yeah so then what

05:00:00.360 that does is of course it opens the pool up for more of those men in that age bracket for you it

05:00:05.400 still sounds like jealousy but definitely not but there's a second there's a second component to it

05:00:10.840 as well which is why is it that a man would not prefer to have a woman that didn't have a 40 year

05:00:16.760 old single woman's baggage what baggage do i have i'm never married i don't have any kids no

05:00:21.640 divorces i'm talking about you specifically we're talking about a hypothetical 40 year old woman not you

05:00:27.560 why would so why would a 40 something year old one you're saying wow yeah well here i'll explain

05:00:33.800 you agree with me the older you get the more baggage you end up with right typically typically right

05:00:39.640 so then why would it why would it not stand to reason that if a man could secure a young very

05:00:44.920 fertile woman uh and she didn't have a lot of baggage that that would be preferable to an older

05:00:50.280 woman who was not as fertile and had a lot of it yeah i mean if it's your preference if you want

05:00:56.440 someone who doesn't have kids then find someone that doesn't have kids i mean i don't disagree with

05:01:01.720 that i just think the age gap of like 20 years is pushing it on any end like a 60 year old with a 40

05:01:08.040 year old like me with a 60 year old i think that's pushing it but i thought the 40 year old knew how

05:01:12.840 to identify all the red flags they do i just think it's extremely what would be the problem with her

05:01:18.440 getting a 60 year old if it clearly there couldn't be very many red flags what do you have in common

05:01:23.400 that's your whole objection right yeah what do you have in common with the 60 year old i just think

05:01:28.120 that you're not on the what does anybody have in common with anybody you know what you're not on the

05:01:31.400 same page women bring this up a lot right they bring up the idea of like what do you have in

05:01:35.320 common with x i sat down with my wife the other day and you know what's really funny i've been

05:01:38.840 married to her for an awful long time we don't fucking hardly have shit in common like i play

05:01:44.440 video games all the time right and like i like to play red dead redemption 2 where i'll go around and

05:01:49.800 like grab the feminist and i'll drag her on the train tracks and let a train hit her you know what i

05:01:54.520 mean and then i'll pull out double six shooters and just unload them into that like feminist corpse in

05:01:59.720 the game right my wife doesn't like that shit and you know what else she does she does her nails all the

05:02:04.040 time and you know what i don't do nails and i don't give a shit about nails and she'll talk to

05:02:07.960 me about she'll be like what do you think of my nails i don't fucking care about your nails i don't

05:02:11.080 give a shit right in fact the more the more we started going through it we realized actually we

05:02:17.160 don't really have all that much in common ultimately so why is that even a problem i think that when you're

05:02:24.120 like 20 years age gap on either side like women going for like a older man or a man going for a

05:02:31.560 younger woman i think there's like an agenda at hand i just don't think it's authentic i think

05:02:35.640 there's an yeah i think there is an agenda on that at hand i think that she probably likes him because

05:02:41.080 he's distinguished and has money has a lot of resources and he likes her because she's young

05:02:45.480 and fertile what does that have to do with stuff in common though like what does that have to do with

05:02:50.920 stuff in common like when you really think about it what do you have in common with most men

05:02:55.000 like here let me give you an example can you can you tell me what's a jigsaw what is it i think it's

05:03:01.720 a tool yeah what what does it do it probably slices something yeah yeah yeah like no idea right no like

05:03:12.920 no we don't need to have you if you had to hang on hang on just a real quick question right uh when it

05:03:19.560 came to a pistol let's say just like a normal semi-automatic handgun could you actually walk

05:03:25.800 me through the process of loading it yeah yeah i have one go ahead walk me through the process

05:03:34.360 you put it in like the little the little mag you put the bullets in and you push them down and you put

05:03:39.000 the next bullet in and you do it and until you're to the top and then you push it in and there you go

05:03:44.840 and there you go i know how to load a handgun you got it yeah i mean you got this you got this down

05:03:53.000 path right but what about what about the fact like can you tell me what your favorite war movie is

05:04:00.360 no i don't think no i don't think right right you know because you don't have

05:04:03.720 fucking shit in common with men you got nothing in common with men nothing i on the commonality

05:04:08.440 thing i have a last one i think you're in different places in your life like

05:04:11.480 like young girls probably still want to party not have a family so what's a 40 something doing

05:04:16.600 starting a family with a 20 something year old i mean some of them doing starting it with a 40

05:04:20.600 year old when she doesn't watch war movies and he loves them she don't talk about rome things like

05:04:24.600 that don't really matter she don't talk about history loves history that doesn't she doesn't

05:04:28.120 play video games he loves video games what the fuck do they have in common that those little things

05:04:32.920 are not important enough well then what is the thing what is the commonality that we're looking for

05:04:37.880 here what are the things in common that that are so meaningful that a 40 year old is going to have

05:04:42.600 with a 40 year old man that a 25 year old woman's not what is it i just think it's too big no give me

05:04:50.200 the thing give me that you said commonality what answer what is it i just think you're different places

05:04:55.160 in your life yeah you have different interests and what how you want to live your life and you got

05:04:59.800 to answer his question i think the young women are not going to want to settle down some of them

05:05:04.280 do answer some do answer his question i'll give you my question hang on i'll give you my question

05:05:10.040 again lifestyle what is actually the thing we're looking for that's a commonality between two 40 year

05:05:17.480 old people versus a 40 year old man with a 25 year old woman what is the thing that the 40 year old

05:05:22.600 woman's going to have in common when the 25 year old isn't what is that thing i just think they have

05:05:28.520 more i just think they're a little bit wiser and more intelligent have more life experience

05:05:33.960 they have in common though that the conversation what's the thing the 40 year old's going to have

05:05:39.720 in common with them the 25 year old's not what is that thing just the ability to have a mature

05:05:46.360 and insightful and deep conversation um i think those are incapable of mature and not necessarily

05:05:52.920 but some but most of the guys i talk to 25 year old women who are at that table who are 25 and under

05:05:58.920 are incapable of having insightful conversations it's not it's just that i don't think that they

05:06:05.080 i don't think they're as wise as an older woman would be i just don't think yeah but that's not

05:06:10.840 talking about what is in common what's the common thing what is the thing that they need just mentally

05:06:15.880 they're not on the same level like i don't think the conversations are going to be as deep and as

05:06:20.280 quality as being what if he doesn't give a shit like do you realize that most of the time then

05:06:25.160 it's surface level about having some deep conversation well then if you're looking for

05:06:28.760 something surface level and i'm looking for something deeper than that why does it hang

05:06:33.320 on why would it be surface level that you don't enjoy deep conversations why is that surface level

05:06:38.840 it's surface level if you don't care about emotional connection you build an emotional connection by

05:06:43.480 having conversations and being vulnerable with each other if you erase that from a conversation from the whole

05:06:48.280 thing then why are you together just doing things for each other and just having fun and i mean there's

05:06:54.920 no emotional connection so by by your criteria all a 25 year old would need to do is be emotionally

05:07:01.400 vulnerable with this guy and him emotionally vulnerable with her and they have deep conversations

05:07:06.760 and then voila problem solved yeah go ahead what's the youngest guy you dated uh 25 what did you guys

05:07:14.120 have in common um the gym wait you literally are in age gap relationships you date younger men

05:07:23.480 yeah what are you complaining made are you a predator are you grooming the younger men no because that

05:07:28.120 wasn't that wasn't i said if it's 20 years that's an extreme okay 12 years is not i don't see a problem

05:07:34.360 with 12 years because you're engaged in one that's 12 years right i'm not engaged in one isn't it i'm not

05:07:40.120 engaged in one convenient that you well there was a threshold there was a is it uh hang on isn't it

05:07:45.560 awful convenient that you draw the threshold past the gap that you currently are in isn't that awful

05:07:52.920 convenient um no 20 years is pretty extreme i said 20 years is extreme it's really not

05:08:00.680 well wait a second how how can i expect that a person who's 12 years your junior can have a deep

05:08:08.680 insightful conversation with you and do a long walk on the beach and be emotionally vulnerable to you

05:08:16.520 but somebody who's 25 couldn't be why why should i assume that we had some pretty good conversations but

05:08:23.640 ultimately i didn't think he was mentally mature enough he was angry and he just was

05:08:30.440 unhealed is what i noticed literally all the arguments that you forwarded could just be

05:08:36.200 forwarded towards your relationship you're 40 right you were dating a 25 year old or when were you dating

05:08:41.560 them when i was 37 37 so it was a 12 year 12 years so the exact same arguments that you forwarded when

05:08:48.680 it comes to men dating younger women could be forwarded in your case as well how about this a 30 year

05:08:54.120 old dating a 20 year old objections there it's not as bad i still think girls under 24 a little bit

05:09:01.640 more vulnerable to being taken away just the women though like not the men only the the younger women

05:09:07.000 so how about this proposition women should not be able to vote until they're 25

05:09:13.000 are you in favor of that uh i think they should raise the voting age a little bit i don't think they're

05:09:17.240 just for women i don't think just for the women i think for everybody i don't think anyone's educated

05:09:22.200 enough or intelligent enough nothing like not wise enough i don't i think there's still kids making

05:09:27.960 these big yes i agree with this no voting for anybody until 30 i i can get behind not that high just maybe

05:09:33.800 like 25 or something okay yeah no no if you're not wise enough to be able to have long walks on the

05:09:39.240 beach and deep emotional conversations i don't think i want you voting in politics i think that you

05:09:45.720 need to at least be able to be emotionally vulnerable and you need to at least be able to

05:09:51.400 have these deep emotional connections with people before i want you to be voting for who my next

05:09:56.360 president is i don't know why you're making fun of having an emotional connection with someone that's

05:10:00.440 the whole that's very because it's meaningless it doesn't mean anything it's meaningful emotional

05:10:04.600 connection it's a hold on help me out joy that is bullshit wait so hold on no

05:10:09.240 let me explain let me explain i'll explain so so that and i think you'll actually agree with me

05:10:18.120 let's say there's bob and jane and bob and jane right out of high school they get married and

05:10:23.000 bob he's a mechanic and jane she's a stay-at-home mom and well they have a they have a rough go for

05:10:28.600 the first 20 years they barely even talk to each other jane has a lot of kids that's true

05:10:33.400 right and they deeply deeply love each other but you know bob he's not really the talkative type he's

05:10:39.160 pretty quiet pretty stoic doesn't really say very much you know and it's just kind of through the

05:10:44.360 little things that jane knows that bob loves her he doesn't forget the anniversaries you know but

05:10:49.160 they don't say much at anniversary dinner he doesn't forget much about jane he loves her he even talks her

05:10:55.240 up to other people right but they just don't ever really have these deep conversations and the idea of

05:11:01.160 emotional vulnerability are you saying bob doesn't love jane not necessarily no no okay right so then

05:11:09.480 so then the idea of a deep emotional connection doesn't mean anything because they do have a deep

05:11:15.560 emotional connection they just have it in a different way than the deep emotional connection

05:11:20.600 you know i disagree i gotta i gotta move things on a little bit here um so a couple questions 30

05:11:28.360 year old man dating 20 year olds do you object it's pushing it i don't know like i said i think

05:11:34.840 the girls under 24 are very young have no life experience or very they're just vulnerable to getting

05:11:40.920 taken advantage of i think they're a little bit naive wouldn't they be just as vulnerable to being

05:11:45.560 taken advantage of by a guy their same age just to be clear i don't think so i don't think those men

05:11:51.000 are as smart as the older men who are much more aware of what they're doing yeah but i can make

05:11:54.920 an opposite argument saying that those older men are like more emotionally mature so they're less

05:12:00.280 less likely to be inclined to be manipulative emotional maturity depends on the person definitely does

05:12:05.400 not depend on age i know that oh so then i'll just apply that to women their maturity depends on

05:12:11.480 their age so an 18 year old woman could be no oh maturity only what wait what are you saying no

05:12:17.960 no you said oh well it depends on the person okay great it depends on the woman too it depends on the

05:12:24.840 specific woman so an 18 year old woman could be more emotionally mature than a 25 year old but you

05:12:30.040 would say oh no you can't date the 18 year old woman it's just that the i i highly doubt 18 to 20 year

05:12:36.520 olds can discern and because they don't have enough life experience and relationship experience to

05:12:42.520 notice the red flags like so so you're saying as people get older they get more emotional intelligence

05:12:50.920 not necessarily what i'm saying is it's easier to discern um and look for red flags and figure out

05:12:57.800 if a person is right for you or not as you get older and get more experience with dating this would

05:13:02.120 apply to men you have to have yes you have to experience with dating to know what to look for

05:13:07.240 and when you're 18 to 20 you don't have that much experience with dating to know what to look out for

05:13:11.880 to know what's right for you and at what age i'm sorry by the time hold on just to be clear most

05:13:17.560 women who are going to college their first freshman quarter semester they've done already

05:13:22.280 fucked like 10 dudes what are you talking about making assumptions but okay bro i mean i can actually

05:13:28.760 give you the average of how many partners that women have when they get out of college on average

05:13:33.880 it's not low right it's not low so i mean it is true it's an assumption i'll grant you that it just

05:13:40.440 seems like it's a fair assumption to make okay so the thing the thing is though is i i would like to

05:13:45.480 just kind of kind of ask you this let's say bob meets jane and this time jane's 25 bob's 40. okay

05:13:53.400 and bob really really loves jane and here's why he loves her he loves her because she doesn't have

05:14:00.360 a lot of baggage and she's beautiful and she really doesn't say very much or challenge his authority

05:14:06.360 is bob a predator no i i said 24 and under so i don't see a problem she's 24 she's 24 and he is

05:14:14.120 is 44 20 years younger is bob a predator oh i don't want to i can't assume you never know could

05:14:25.640 be a good guy i just think here's the only criteria more likely to take advantage of her these i'm

05:14:31.960 giving you the specific criteria he loves her for these three reasons she's really hot okay she has no

05:14:40.200 baggage and she concedes to his authority that's why he loves her those three reasons i don't think

05:14:47.480 that's i don't think those are enough things to love someone guys bob for editor i i wouldn't that's

05:14:59.240 not enough to fall in love in my opinion there's so many more deep of the question in love with her

05:15:03.640 and she has her own reasons for loving him back but he definitely is in love with her he just only has

05:15:07.960 those three reasons why he's in love with her is bob a predator borderline i don't know borderline okay

05:15:14.440 borderline it's a little it's just a little off for me it's just a little bit too much

05:15:20.600 of an age gap what should bob love her for um

05:15:28.920 i think you see i believe in developing an emotional connection and i believe that

05:15:33.640 that when you you fall in love with someone when you are vulnerable with each other and you

05:15:40.120 learn about each other and you love them through their flaws bob love her for so he has an emotional

05:15:47.160 connection the same way that you're talking about it's just that through this emotional connection he's

05:15:51.640 discovered he really just loves her for those three reasons what should bob love her for instead of those three things

05:15:58.200 what should her character is she a supportive wife is she loyal does she take care of him is she did

05:16:08.840 i say supportive like it's just what if she's none of those things it's not just about looks it's not

05:16:15.480 just well wait if if if what if she's really not any of those things and bob still loves her

05:16:20.920 how could bob be wrong about who bob loves it's hypothetical i don't know i don't right right the thing is

05:16:27.000 it's like the the criteria becomes very arbitrary very quickly when you're talking about why you fall

05:16:32.280 in love with a person right becomes very arbitrary very made up very kind of just by whatever our own

05:16:38.680 intuition is if bob actually loves this woman why does it fucking matter why

05:16:46.680 i just think those are superficial reasons to fall in love like i don't think that's true love

05:16:51.320 i don't think there's a guy who's shorter than you isn't yes i have dated guys who are short

05:16:57.000 oh wait i'm sorry roll that back shorter than me no i'm 5 5 no that's too short would you

05:17:02.520 oh hold on isn't that superficial that's too sure would you would you date a guy who's shorter than

05:17:06.600 you and shorter than me now i'm five okay that's really superficial that i did not in love with him

05:17:11.160 though i'm not in love with him what you were what you don't have to be in love with someone to go

05:17:16.920 out with them you don't even know them yet you have to get to know them so would i go out with

05:17:20.280 someone would you marry a guy who's who's shorter than you no because i wouldn't even go out with a guy

05:17:25.240 who's shorter okay that's superficial i wouldn't be attracted to them what's wrong with that okay

05:17:28.840 you're superficial so whatever you find attractive is what you find attractive okay so what if a guy

05:17:33.960 is attracted to younger women you can be attracted to younger women but to fall in love with someone

05:17:39.000 based on their looks hold on hold on hold on so just to be clear it's totally okay to just

05:17:45.560 a young woman and never talk to her again but if you want to have a long-term monogamous relationship

05:17:50.200 and marry her that's predatory that's out of line that's out of line you can you can

05:17:56.200 fuck her and never talk to her again either but hold on you're you're making a distinction as to oh

05:18:01.880 if you just date date them that's okay wait wait wait you're not so so it's not okay for a 24 year

05:18:07.400 old woman to fuck a 40 year old man she wants i mean it's legal it's legal i just think it should be

05:18:12.280 illegal though no i don't think it's that because then he would be a friend i don't think it should

05:18:18.520 be illegal he's going to jail no it's she's over the age of 18 i don't think it should be illegal

05:18:27.640 is he just weird it's just way it's just it's weird it's just weird you know what's weird you

05:18:33.000 want to date a guy who's shorter than you that's weird that's really i don't find that attractive

05:18:37.240 well when you're looking for attractiveness it is kind of superficial yeah whatever you find

05:18:40.840 attractive it is you're basing it on looks yes but you're saying you're in love with someone

05:18:44.920 because they're hot that's superficial that's not love that's what he said no he gave other criteria

05:18:49.960 yeah and they were they were surface level they were surface level she's submissive that's like

05:18:55.400 hang on i'll just wait sure he just is totally in love with her because she's hot what the

05:19:01.080 is wrong with that that's not love well you don't fall in love with someone wait you get to determine

05:19:07.400 what love is you don't fall in love with someone love okay but you're saying that you are you're

05:19:13.160 saying no i'm not i'm just saying in the hypothetical he does love her right but he's in love with her

05:19:20.760 and yes it's just purely based on her looks what has bob done that's actually wrong here i don't think

05:19:25.880 that's love i think that's lust but you're saying that you wouldn't date a guy that's an inch shorter

05:19:30.440 than you isn't that like so kind of that's not i wouldn't be in love with him because i wouldn't

05:19:35.160 even go out with him yeah right but you wouldn't even date her if she wasn't hot so wait it's okay

05:19:43.480 i'm saying i'm saying your basis for love is dependent on looks that doesn't i don't think

05:19:47.160 that's enough to be in love it's enough to be attracted but you're misrepresenting his position

05:19:52.120 his original position was he listed look she's really hot uh andrew i think you said she was submissive

05:19:58.360 you maybe you worded it differently so here's the three criteria she's really good looking she

05:20:03.880 doesn't have any baggage right and she submits to his authority i think that's that's an i think

05:20:10.360 that's enough yeah i think that's an those i think that criteria is enough to to um be interested and

05:20:18.920 to want to date them and to find it very attractive i don't think that's enough to fall in love i think

05:20:23.320 you're looking at it like way too black and white like also just to be clear men we don't have

05:20:29.720 laundry lists of shit that like like y'all women who have fucking long ass lists of shit that you need

05:20:36.040 like andrew's kind of spot on be submissive be pleasant don't have baggage be physically attractive

05:20:43.560 literally that's pretty much all you need as a woman in fact most men are probably going just most

05:20:49.480 men just be hot lucky stars if they get that shit if you get just that you get a submissive

05:20:54.600 hot woman who doesn't have trauma that's huge that's it that's like the make them for the same

05:21:02.440 lottery that that's it five times right now you're trying to conflate it to there would be no other

05:21:09.480 components of the relationship i don't think that that's what andrew's saying he's just saying she's

05:21:15.080 got those three things he's that's why he's in love with her because of those three what would

05:21:19.320 be wrong with that what would actually be yeah what's wrong with that though i don't i don't like

05:21:23.320 so i don't understand um if the perspective from the man is like these three things are the things that

05:21:29.400 i value and then you have those three things and you're in love with that woman and she has those

05:21:36.120 three criteria that's what made you fall in love with her that part of your criteria well hang on that

05:21:41.640 was what your criteria was she met him you fell in love with her those are the three things you

05:21:46.200 listed the things about her that made you fall in love with her how could you dispute that like how

05:21:50.920 could you say bob that's wrong there needs to be some walk on the beach on tuesdays or else you don't

05:21:57.000 really love her bob right like how how can you even make that statement at that point

05:22:04.760 i don't know i just think falling in love requires a deeper connection than just

05:22:09.160 those little things i think that's part of it i don't think that's enough you realize like well

05:22:14.680 let me ask you this do you believe in love and first sight no no no no so and you don't even know

05:22:22.280 the person how many how many do you think how do you how many weeks do you think it would take or

05:22:27.240 days do you think it would take for there to at least be a baseline where there's love

05:22:30.920 like i don't i personally think um a few months i think it takes a few months to really get to know

05:22:42.120 someone everyone's on their best behavior the first month then you start to see the person around the

05:22:46.840 second month i think it takes a couple of months to really get to know them and see the real them see

05:22:51.800 them how do they handle conflict how do they i gotta talk to my wife because she said the day she met me

05:22:59.320 when she opened the door right that it was like the scene from wayne's world where dream weaver was

05:23:04.120 playing in the background and there was like a shining light on me right and she said it was love

05:23:09.880 at first sight i couldn't i can't believe she fucking lied to me brian it's fucked up it's

05:23:15.160 fucked up um really quick here i guess final things on this um so i first off with the three that andrew gave

05:23:24.840 the majority of men like men will put up with a lot of bullshit like men will deal with quarrelsome

05:23:32.200 nagging women i i personally don't think that's a good way to move as a man but like if you just go

05:23:37.640 off of andrew's first one she's hot you might not agree with it but a lot of men that's it they'll fall

05:23:46.040 in love with a girl now this idea that those three prongs that he listed is that's not enough

05:23:53.560 that's like we again we don't have laundry lists of things be submissive don't have a bunch of don't

05:23:59.560 bring trauma baggage into the relationship and be physically attractive like the vast majority of men

05:24:04.440 are going to be totally fine with that if you come with other stuff fantastic but that's it two things

05:24:11.080 here i want to talk about really quick you mentioned commonality one i would think aren't there people

05:24:16.840 like your exact same age who you'd be completely incompatible with so this idea that commonality is

05:24:25.080 super important seems dubious yes i think yeah okay can i ask hold on hold on hold on um

05:24:35.000 and i related to that though i mean have you ever met a guy who you have everything in common

05:24:40.440 with but you weren't attracted like you didn't want to date him like i don't think commonality

05:24:45.960 in and of itself is enough to be like oh i really want to fuck this person i really want to date with

05:24:50.760 this person i think you need more than just commonality oh they like all my same music and movies and we

05:24:57.000 have this whatever i can't that's not enough yeah like yeah you exactly you found yourself a friend

05:25:06.760 but is the attraction there so commonality who gives who cares about that let me ask you a question

05:25:11.480 one scenario um let's say a 19 year old girl slides into my dms she contacts me i'm 35 and she's she

05:25:19.800 says hey i want to come visit you i want to take you i want to take you on a date whatever she says

05:25:25.240 what would be wrong with me dating her

05:25:27.080 i think it's weird i think she's a child even though she's literally an adult i i understand

05:25:35.480 that legally she's an adult i still view 19 year olds as kids men and women okay so

05:25:43.800 you view them as kids yeah but she's con she's approached me i'm not like hanging out at college

05:25:49.960 parties and shit trying to hit on fucking 19 year olds no i'm just minding my own business she's like

05:25:54.280 hey brian blah blah well hang on hang on first of all i don't believe you so here i can demonstrate

05:26:01.400 it i can demonstrate it are you saying that a man who's 40 who's with a 19 year old's a pdf file

05:26:10.280 no i think uh well then they can't be kids can they no but they're practically kids it's too

05:26:16.840 no they're okay so they're not kids or they are kids oh my god

05:26:20.760 uh you're not technically a p-e-d-o okay so then they're not kids then because i mean i'm

05:26:29.560 pretty not legally all agree that the definition of a p-d-o right is that right they go after kids

05:26:36.280 right yes so these clearly can't be kids or else they would be p-d-o i know i said they're not legally

05:26:42.040 kids but i mean they're not too far off yeah but if you if you thought that they were actually kids

05:26:48.120 regardless of what the law said then these people would have to be p-d-o's who were with them right

05:26:53.080 well i didn't say he was a p-d-o i'm just saying they can't be kids like do you see how that works

05:26:58.040 like i view you have i view them as a kid compared to like 30s 40s i still view them as a kid i know

05:27:04.760 they're not legally i just think you agree with me that there's cultures out there where like 15 year

05:27:09.160 olds it's perfectly acceptable 15 year olds are viewed as adults yeah okay okay i'm gonna agree with

05:27:15.160 you right now 15 year olds are not adults regardless of what that culture says right

05:27:20.440 you agree with that right right okay so i would still say morally that's a 15 year old and if

05:27:27.000 you're doing stuff with them you're a hepa file you're doing something really evil and bad right

05:27:32.920 but in this culture right you would have to then bite the same bullet and say well if they're actually

05:27:40.120 kids then at 19 these people would be some type of file right if they if you actually viewed them as

05:27:46.920 kids i yeah i'm i never once said that they are a file i'm not calling a 40 or whatever then you

05:27:55.720 can't be saying that these people are kids that's like that what that is it's loaded language to try

05:28:00.680 to socially shame people when you say that's a kid though and it's like then the second i question you

05:28:07.400 i realize actually you don't view them as kids because if you did you would view the person who

05:28:12.200 was with them as being some kind of predator right you'd have to or can you name another situation

05:28:19.720 where an adult goes after a kid whether or not predators i'd like to hear it no i still that's just

05:28:25.480 my opinion something go ahead what how many years is it weird is it 10 15 i said 20. so there's actually

05:28:34.280 a formula for that um which just i'll make this quick but it's half your age plus seven is like

05:28:41.400 your base and then double your age minus seven is your ceiling typically like socially speaking so

05:28:49.320 as a 40 year old your lowest let me do quick math would be 27 and on the high side it would be

05:28:57.160 double your age so 80 minus seven would be 73 so the older you get the bigger it gets but typically

05:29:06.040 socially there is a formula for what that age gap should be i just think it's weird that you keep

05:29:12.360 using well women aren't mature enough and xyz but i'm still going back to the fact that you dated someone

05:29:20.440 12 years younger than you and it sounds like you're okay with it with it being men or like you

05:29:26.280 know like boys but like versus women so i'm trying to grasp what the difference is of why in your eyes

05:29:33.000 men might be mature enough to date older women but women aren't i would not date a 19 year old man

05:29:38.680 so my boyfriend at the time was 25 i said 24 and under is questionable on both sides so my boyfriend at the

05:29:46.280 time was 25 so i didn't i don't see a problem with that i don't think the women aren't mature at 19 i

05:29:53.080 just think they're i just think they don't have enough dating experience to look for certain signs

05:29:59.480 and red flags that they could end up you know in a situation where they're controlled or yeah but they

05:30:04.760 could end up in that situation with a guy who's their age yeah so yeah because but when they're older

05:30:10.120 they're able to discern better so they won't end up in that situation never been in a relationship

05:30:14.440 before they haven't there's no there's nothing in their past to constitute that so if you had a son

05:30:20.040 and your 40 never had a relationship before you're saying that could be the situation for sure and

05:30:24.840 you're still gonna say that they have i mean it's possible relationship background to be able to

05:30:28.600 identify those it's possible can i also can i just add one last thing and i think maybe you'll agree with

05:30:33.000 me on this too that if a person is really fucking stupid when they're young they're usually

05:30:38.520 fucking stupid when they're old and if a person has really bad discernment when they're young

05:30:43.240 they usually have really bad discernment when they're old now here's the other the opposite

05:30:47.720 trend i've noticed when young people have really good discernment they have really good discernment

05:30:52.440 when they get older and if they're really smart when they're young they're smart when they're older

05:30:56.040 people never grow when you're talking about discernment especially right i think it's a thing

05:31:01.160 you have or you don't have i don't think that if you're making good decisions at 23 you're not

05:31:07.160 making good decisions at 43 but i definitely think if you're not making good decisions at 23 you're probably

05:31:12.600 not making good decisions at 43 so you're saying people don't grow and evolve at all no i'm not

05:31:17.720 saying that at all i'm saying that some parts of intuition and some parts of what is intuitive

05:31:24.440 stay with you just like intelligence if you're stupid when you're 24 you're generally pretty stupid

05:31:30.120 when you're 44 and if you have good discernment when you're 24 you generally have good discernment

05:31:34.920 when you're 44. what i'm saying is that those things don't go away they get enhanced am i saying that

05:31:40.760 you could have a 19 year old who gets a bit smarter she gets older sure have a bit better discernment

05:31:45.560 as she gets older perhaps but the thing is is like if they had good discernment to begin with that's

05:31:51.640 just going to grow if they had bad discernment it's probably not going to probably always going to stay

05:31:56.840 the same have you ever noticed the trend when young people are up when they're older they're usually

05:32:01.640 still up right have you noticed that i don't agree with that i believe in growth and change

05:32:07.480 learning from your past experiences some people don't learn some people do i'm one of the people

05:32:11.480 who did learn here pull up the chart all right so this is intelligence so the red curve is or hold

05:32:21.080 on relationship between age and general intelligence is the blue crystallized intelligence is the green and

05:32:28.040 fluid intelligence is the red uh so you could actually kind of make an argument that that a woman at 20

05:32:37.320 is more intelligent than a man at 40 with the exception of uh that would be the crystallized intelligence

05:32:47.320 which is the important part but you have the uh red which is the fluid intelligence which takes a

05:32:54.600 nose dive at 25 it peaks at 25 but starts going down so the red that's the uh fluid intelligence so i

05:33:03.160 don't know so sometimes younger people be more intelligent in certain metrics but isn't it

05:33:10.440 scientifically speaking men don't fully mature till they're 41 41 correct yeah look it up i don't know

05:33:18.760 look it up no no no what you're talking about it's talking about fully mature are you saying that

05:33:25.320 they the the like the the end of their growth of their brain and everything else is finally complete

05:33:30.600 correct women i believe it's 32 33 and for men it's 40 41 you can look it up okay and so what do we

05:33:37.240 what do you mean by fully developed though just so that i understand uh emotional maturity

05:33:41.400 um so men stop having emotional maturity past 41 no their brain is finally fully developed okay so

05:33:51.160 then what does fully developed mean having the capacity to understand everything to the highest

05:33:57.560 extent that your brain can give you so they can never understand past 41 any higher than their

05:34:04.440 understanding at 41 no it's what did you say it's the front it's the frontal lobe development but it's not

05:34:11.000 that old i i know that studies have had prefrontal lobe for women is supposed to be fully developed

05:34:16.120 at 25 25 yeah and it's i think it's 28 for men i do think that that shifted now with a lot of the

05:34:21.640 rise in technology i think it's more like 28 and 31 based on recent studies but it's i need to move

05:34:27.160 things on we have a lot to get through guys so um let's get in let's do this um what's the minimum

05:34:34.840 um yearly income you'd like your future husband to make uh

05:34:49.240 i don't know i i'm not like i'm very much i'm probably do you want to do you want them to make

05:34:55.240 more than you or as much as you i don't think to me it matters because i know that i'm gonna always

05:35:02.840 provide for myself and i'm not going to depend on my partner's like income fully to do you want to

05:35:08.760 have kids yes would you be okay with dating a man who wants to be a stay-at-home husband no so his

05:35:17.720 money doesn't matter i think okay well it'd be the minimum income would you date a guy who works

05:35:22.760 mcdonald's while you're as long as we're not on the poverty line if i loved him and i was able to

05:35:27.640 provide as well like it wouldn't matter to me because money is not as significant as a connection

05:35:33.720 okay what about you um it would definitely have to be the same amount or more as i'm making it

05:35:39.320 wouldn't be less um i don't know i would say like preferably if i could pick like a number like above

05:35:48.760 200k a year more than 200 000 what about you i think where i live matters so i'd say at least

05:35:55.480 maybe above or no minimum 80k 80k okay yeah i think 60 to 100 okay i actually don't care as long

05:36:05.080 as you're working as hard as you can okay he's working really hard at mcdonald's that is all

05:36:11.240 that matters to me try your hardest and we'll get there eventually okay yep all right around six

05:36:17.480 figures give or take so 90 to 110 yeah okay what about you um a grown man you gotta lower the mic

05:36:28.600 or fix your posture six figures six figures so what what does that mean that's either a hundred

05:36:34.200 thousand dollars or 999 yeah like minimum 100 minimum 100 000 okay what about you doesn't matter

05:36:40.120 how much does your husband make so if your husband stopped working you'd be fine with it

05:36:44.120 um well no i mean he has to work but it doesn't matter i i don't have a requirement as to how

05:36:51.320 much do you have kids or do you want kids or okay so it's a little different situation because we

05:36:57.880 don't have kids i we both work okay what about you with the degree i'm supposed to be getting like

05:37:04.360 in a couple of years or a year or whatever however long it takes i would want them to at least make half of

05:37:09.160 what i make or more so so for an accountant like when they start it's like 90 000 or 80 000 so i would

05:37:16.360 want them to make at least 40 to 50 000. okay what about you uh my husband and i make the same amount

05:37:22.600 of money so uh so are you are you are you are you wanting to know how much sure the number i guess 65k

05:37:32.360 okay okay thanks i would say at least half of what i make and hopefully you're also working on growing

05:37:38.760 your career because that's what i do um so i don't really have like a set number all right what about

05:37:45.240 you uh without kids 75 with kids 150. okay all right and then height uh how tall are you and what's

05:37:52.760 the minimum height that you would date um i'm five five uh it's probably like like how tall do you

05:38:03.160 want your let's not do minimum for you to date because you would maybe date a guy who's willing

05:38:07.720 to take you to golf and stuff or whatever um minimum height for your husband wait what don't worry

05:38:13.800 about it minimum height for golf what i'm golf and stuff oh i know what you're talking about that

05:38:18.120 place is fun isn't it it's a conceivable oh my god do i have to conceivably a woman would go on a

05:38:24.840 date with a guy that she's not attracted to because the guy is offering her like a experience

05:38:29.800 oh let me take you to this concert that's your favorite musician okay he's like five he's like a

05:38:35.320 dwarf you might go on a date with him does that make sense no i wouldn't because it's not my

05:38:41.160 character like if i'm not interested in but could you conceive that a woman would go on a date with

05:38:47.640 a guy that she's not attracted to because he's offering to take her to the bahamas sure okay so

05:38:54.040 also how would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning what how would you feel if you hadn't

05:39:00.920 eaten breakfast this morning angry angry somebody answered it for her so somebody whispered it um

05:39:09.080 okay okay so that would have been my answer how tall are you and what would be the minimum height

05:39:16.520 for like your future husband the guy you're spending your life with okay i'm five five probably like

05:39:21.400 five two okay i don't really care about five two okay um i'm five six so he would have to be same

05:39:26.840 height or taller okay i'm five eight so i would prefer like i don't know i kind of want to wear heels if

05:39:33.960 i could so like five ten okay what about you i'm five ten i'd rather than be five eleven or higher

05:39:40.360 sure i'm five five i'd say like five seven five eight yeah i'm five five so like taller than me

05:39:47.800 five eight and higher i'm five nine so probably five ten or higher i'm five seven uh minimum would

05:39:55.160 probably be five six because that's my husband he's a little shorter i'm four eleven and i love wearing

05:40:01.240 heels so uh i would want someone who probably is like five four or higher i'm five seven and my

05:40:07.640 preference would be five seven or above i'm five three and my preference would also be five three or

05:40:14.280 above i'm five seven and my preference would be five ten or above and then all of you who are all

05:40:20.840 y'all who are in relationships how tall is your uh boyfriend six foot uh six one five eleven

05:40:27.480 five six uh okay this is kind of interesting uh all right so uh what was the next thing ryan um

05:40:37.000 how much how much would a woman have to make for you to be with her

05:40:43.640 nothing don't care that's crazy don't care this is wild now i'd like her to not be in debt

05:40:50.120 like substantial debt uh but don't care in terms of her income don't care

05:40:55.480 man that's weird it's almost like um differences i mean it seems like you have a really low standards

05:41:03.160 though surely you expect her to work and try her absolute best to make money right brian no don't

05:41:09.960 care don't care at all that's uh why do you have such low standards though why doesn't why shouldn't

05:41:16.200 she make 150 000 a year like i was just thinking about this as i was hearing the answers and i was like

05:41:21.080 man i must have really low standards i feel like my wife should make exactly what i make her her

05:41:26.280 higher she's not trying hard enough i don't think men prioritize that when it comes to attraction

05:41:31.640 it just doesn't know it doesn't matter oh that's really weird then almost like wait there's a there's

05:41:38.280 a position of privilege again that we're looking at can i chime in here sure yeah i'd love to hear

05:41:43.240 because i did say the highest number i think just realistically looking from an economic perspective

05:41:47.480 i'm you mean height or no money financial no i think she said 200k oh just kidding not quite

05:41:53.000 the highest but i said 150 you mentioned 150 you mentioned 150 um i think for me when i started

05:41:59.240 dating my boyfriend he was and still is dealing with a lot of debt he was a high school math teacher

05:42:05.160 making absolutely no money and it was kind of one of those things that it's like i wasn't attracted

05:42:09.080 to him for his money um he's making great money now he's in gas and oil acquisition so good for him but

05:42:15.000 um with that i don't think it's necessarily a financial thing for me i think my answer just

05:42:20.120 had a lot more to do with like realistic economics it's expensive well i don't understand do you think

05:42:26.920 that brian doesn't want to deal with realistic economics no not necessarily i mean how come he

05:42:31.800 doesn't care he just must have low standards for me it wasn't necessarily a standard thing if he was

05:42:37.560 making absolutely nothing i love him for who he is if he goes broke and we'll figure it out that's

05:42:42.200 not what she said though what she said was you said when asked how much do you want him to make

05:42:48.440 you said it's going to be between x and y would be the minimum amount that i would accept uh otherwise

05:42:54.360 not trying hard enough essentially so but i think that there's a difference between wanting and needing

05:42:59.400 so i don't need him to make any money obviously i would want him to make a financial

05:43:04.760 input into our marriage and into how much does a man need to make

05:43:08.120 for you and the answer was between x and y interestingly enough for brian the answer is

05:43:17.160 zero and that's really that's really weird it really seems like there's a standard here

05:43:23.880 which is from a position of privilege from women where they put a requirement for what a man needs

05:43:30.120 to make or he's not trying hard enough and yet when i asked the man he says i don't give a

05:43:34.600 shit it's really that's just bizarre to me going back though because one of the questions that was

05:43:38.840 asked was would you marry somebody who wanted to be a stay-at-home dad i would and so that was a

05:43:44.760 conversation with my boyfriend yeah but that's still a resource allocation thing right like i'm

05:43:49.880 still getting so so like brian for instance i didn't ask him if there would be a requirement she

05:43:54.920 was a stay-at-home mom he just said flat out no there's no income requirement regardless of

05:44:01.800 circumstance no income request meaning if she didn't wasn't having his kids he still didn't

05:44:07.160 give a shit if she made zero that's really strange that that really seems like there's a standard here

05:44:12.760 which is really high for men and really low for women that's all i'm saying i think the standard for

05:44:18.600 me at least just falls on the fact that if we need to be able to put a roof over our heads i think

05:44:23.800 going back to even what you said liz liz liz okay um even if like just enough to get by if we lived on a

05:44:30.920 tent under a bridge and we loved each other it didn't matter it's just a matter of having a roof

05:44:35.880 over our head and food in the fridge and being able to send our kids to school and to be fair the

05:44:40.680 question was a preference correct not like a neat necessity like necessity so want versus need yeah

05:44:48.440 no well what was the question

05:44:52.360 did anybody even tell me what the question was anybody um the question was

05:44:58.200 how much money how much money do you want your partner to make like like i'm pretty sure it was

05:45:05.080 would you prefer wasn't it i mean i don't know the exact wording but i got i think it was something

05:45:10.200 along the lines of uh what what's the minimum income you'd like your future husband to make

05:45:15.240 something i think the minimum i mean my answer was preferably it's not like a salt like you know it can be

05:45:21.480 change depending on how i actually feel for that person in the situation but preferably it's the

05:45:28.360 how come there was qualifiers like try like he's not trying hard enough if he's not doing x y and z

05:45:37.480 right he's not trying hard enough if he's not making this income that's bizarre that sounds like a

05:45:41.960 qualifier like i mean you don't think he's good enough right i didn't say that who said that i do got

05:45:48.840 to move on um andrea you said that men need to act like men and step up yeah uh so what does that

05:45:56.680 mean women need to step down what does that mean no like men like to be chased nowadays but i think

05:46:02.200 it's like they're kind of confused like they say that they are attracted to women but they are not

05:46:08.440 chasing women they want to be chased so that's like more masculine energy and like they're kind of

05:46:14.920 looking for that masculine energy and so they're not like giving that so like they're kind of really

05:46:19.480 looking for a man you know like they're not so they're like are you saying they're gay or like

05:46:24.760 maybe like maybe they are gay but they don't want to admit it and so like they're going after these

05:46:28.680 women and like oh let me contact like five women at once like to distract himself that like you know

05:46:35.240 that like wait so men who uh enjoy it if a woman pursues their they're less masculine like oh let's like

05:46:44.520 they'll be like oh let's hang out okay um here's my address let me just try to get through things

05:46:48.920 quickly um what's up well i hate to psychologize but have you been with a guy who came out later as

05:46:53.640 gay no i haven't oh okay i have not okay um so do you think women need to act like women and step up

05:47:01.800 or i don't know if it would be step down what do you mean well you said men need to act like men and

05:47:06.600 step up yeah so do women need to act like women and step up like or step down i don't know you just

05:47:13.880 keep our standards and like you know if we don't like how they're approaching us then like we need

05:47:19.400 to just move on and you know oh like because i don't know i'm not gonna be like oh this guy

05:47:26.600 is just you know not giving me the attention that i want you know it's like he's asking me

05:47:30.920 to like go to him like i don't want to do that like he needs to come to me you know like you should

05:47:37.880 be chasing a man what if he's just not that into you then don't go out with them then okay

05:47:45.560 then don't go out but i mean so what does it mean like what does it mean for men to act like men and

05:47:50.600 to step up what does that mean just to pursue or what do you mean yeah like they should be the ones

05:47:54.440 chasing not the ones chased i don't know about chasing i think maybe men should pursue i don't

05:48:00.120 know if they should be chasing i think it's different chasing is the girl you've asked her

05:48:06.600 out seven times and she oh i'm busy i got i'm stuck no

05:48:13.240 pursuit is different than chase i think i mean maybe to you it's the same but okay men should pursue

05:48:19.720 not be pursued okay um i'm not gonna write it actually occurs to me as i was sitting here

05:48:28.280 pondering this the last round of questions i'm sorry to bring this back but this is actually

05:48:31.960 bothering me so i'm going to bring it up there is just a lot to get through i know i know there's a

05:48:36.280 lot though very quickly i gotta understand this if you really thought it was about preference why

05:48:42.760 wouldn't you say millions of dollars or billions if you honestly thought that the money thing was

05:48:48.760 about we said minimum why wouldn't you say we didn't say we didn't say max the question let me

05:48:54.440 finish the question why wouldn't you say i want a man who's six foot five and has your question is

05:49:01.160 answered hang on hang on hang on just chill out before you start spurging why wouldn't you have said

05:49:06.600 that if it were if you really thought it was about preference because it's it was minimum

05:49:11.320 the question was how much money would you like him to make minimum yeah if it was a minimum that

05:49:20.840 was a preference why wouldn't you say millions because it's unrealistic you wouldn't prefer that

05:49:25.320 as a minimum because i'm trying to also make sure that i get by and i'm not putting unrealistic standards

05:49:31.000 on him yeah but it's a preference if you really thought it was a preference why would you just

05:49:37.000 say i prefer at minimum 80 million dollars like who wouldn't prefer that because i'm not trying to

05:49:43.640 put unrealistic no no no it's because it's because you didn't see it as a preference that was cope

05:49:49.240 and it has to be cope because otherwise everybody in the right mind would say my minimum preference

05:49:54.840 if it was just off what i preferred would be a hundred trillion dollars right wouldn't everybody

05:50:00.600 say that no i don't want that kind of money i wouldn't either you don't want that kind of money

05:50:05.320 oh okay i feel like if you have too much money you have nothing to work for uh wait so question so

05:50:13.240 men need to act like men and step up okay uh do women need to step up and act like women act like

05:50:21.400 ladies um well i mean if you're dating someone like and you're being like i don't know just

05:50:30.760 you're just seeing them like yeah offer loyalty like so many but you're saying men need to be

05:50:37.640 leaders take initiative and stuff yeah that's the bare minimum so what if in a relationship you're you're

05:50:43.320 dating a guy your boyfriend let's say you've been dating a year he's like i don't like how revealing

05:50:48.440 you dress oh um that has nothing to do with like like a woman stepping up like if a girl wants to

05:50:57.400 wear a dress like that's not wear a dress what i said if she's dressing in a revealing way and

05:51:04.360 she's posting revealing photos on her instagram for was she doing this from the get-go or is it like

05:51:09.480 yeah like sure i'll say she is so that's why he went after her though because not necessarily he

05:51:13.640 liked how not necessarily and she's not gonna change no he just thought she was attractive but

05:51:18.840 now that he's in a he acknowledges that you can't when you're in a relate when you're single and also

05:51:23.880 perhaps right when it comes to brainwashing but now that he's in a relationship with you and perhaps

05:51:30.120 his he's made a reassessment of like what's important to him he's like i don't like how she's

05:51:35.720 dressing break up really you think the relationship go find someone that dresses really so you wait

05:51:41.640 just hold on but he wants to stay with you and he'll stay with you so long as you dress more

05:51:47.080 modestly then suck it up oh that's not you being that's not really you following his lead then he's

05:51:52.840 saying hey look when you were single you're acting like a single girl you're going to the club but now

05:51:58.040 you're going to stop going to the club you're going to stop dressing revealing you're going to stop

05:52:01.480 posting thirst traps on instagram i feel like i don't know like you shouldn't be with an insecure

05:52:06.680 man why would that be insecure because like you're asking them to change like their clothes because

05:52:11.480 they're whether they have would you date a guy who wears a dress i mean if it looks nice on them i

05:52:16.520 don't really you go out in public and hold hands with a dude who's wearing a pink dress like i wouldn't

05:52:23.480 care you wouldn't care no you wouldn't that's ridiculous bro that's ridiculous no i don't mind

05:52:33.320 no would you hang on would would you make sure it didn't get in a puddle would you hold it up when

05:52:37.800 you cross the street you're trying you didn't wouldn't want the dress to get wet you know well

05:52:41.560 i mean like they can wear whatever they want i don't i don't care but why do y'all want us to lead

05:52:47.480 and if we lead and we're like i'm not comfortable with how you're dressing

05:52:53.960 you want then you want then you want to be 50 50. huh that has like nothing to do with leading

05:52:58.680 like you're just like wanting to change us like that here pull up her instagram pull her

05:53:02.440 instagram i said private chat if you have a pink bone is here to go with the dress all right here's

05:53:06.200 probably looks great so cute let's see your instagram oh she's a batty okay scroll down scroll down

05:53:11.800 scroll down scroll back up scroll back up okay period so you're dating a dude and he's like first

05:53:17.480 off i want no one has ever told me he's like first off i want you to make your profile private and on

05:53:23.400 top of that i want you to take down all those photos i wouldn't date them that's weird so just to be

05:53:31.640 clear you're in love with this dude you're in a relationship and he's like hey i've come to this

05:53:35.960 determination now that we're monogamous now that we're in a relationship i'm not comfortable with this

05:53:40.920 anymore i would say oh you know i love you but now i have to end it because so just to be clear

05:53:45.560 you being able to post thirst traps and you dressing revealing is more important than a relationship

05:53:50.040 those aren't really like like thirst traps they are you're hold on your titties are like two seconds

05:53:55.080 from being popping out like my what your titty they're they're like literally two seconds you

05:54:00.440 pull it back up pull that shit back hello bro i mean look i feel like i don't know since like

05:54:06.440 i'm not really i'm not saying it's the craziest bad i'm not saying like maybe like i had a like

05:54:12.040 a big bust but like here you had something good asking a man to lead you and to step up as a man

05:54:18.360 but you are refusing to respect right you respect us here it's not him trying to change you it's you

05:54:24.760 being a respectable woman for him as he's leading you and why would you want to reveal yourself to

05:54:30.760 other men like what is your intention my my platform is not for men though like i don't

05:54:36.440 post what do your insights say what do your insights say if we could look at all my comments

05:54:43.160 it's all if you took off every single man on your instagram you'd still have the same amount of likes

05:54:49.320 for sure for sure what's that we can look we can look through all my likes it's like mostly women go

05:54:54.440 ahead i feel like i'm letting a guy you know tell you what you can and can't post and where

05:54:59.640 like to a degree is opening the door for control and i've had that happen to myself yeah like

05:55:04.600 and it all started off with small things and it really does progress and yes certain situations

05:55:09.960 are different and yes it's not asking too much you know to remove some pictures off instagram but when

05:55:15.640 you're telling someone what they can and can't wear you obviously don't try to wait that does not

05:55:20.440 disrespect my partner just because i'm wearing yes it does because you are showing yourself to

05:55:25.240 somebody else you are an image of your partner or anything can you tell you not to do that well

05:55:29.080 obviously but like the wait why what what if you want what if you wanted to start it's fashion it's

05:55:33.800 like a style what if you wanted to start you know like you guys need to learn the difference

05:55:38.280 between like you know control too like you're you're normalizing being controlled i'm normalizing

05:55:45.400 respecting my partner because at the end of the day my body should be in control for him or for

05:55:51.160 myself exclusively not for anybody else you're very like conservative like that's okay that's you

05:55:56.200 you're very christian that's you that's okay do you want to relate like do you want a husband

05:56:00.440 okay you want a boyfriend that does not mean i'm not gonna get a husband i'm just saying okay in

05:56:04.520 general i mean you haven't had a boyfriend and i'm like i'm 23 i'm not looking for a husband right

05:56:08.280 now you know i'm just looking at my life you want a man to lead you go ahead go ahead you want a man to

05:56:14.680 lead you and be a man xyz you are an image of your man at the end of the day like you represent your

05:56:22.360 man so you posting revealing pictures and xyz and you're telling him to step up i'm not gonna represent

05:56:29.000 my man i don't know like i just like by taking his last name you represent your man i honestly like

05:56:35.800 i don't know aren't these conversations are we talking dating or married aren't these conversations

05:56:40.360 that you would have beforehand right like you would have these and be like hey so like would

05:56:45.320 you expect me to change the way that i dress because i have these conversations would you

05:56:50.280 expect me to change the way that i dress i'll answer that first off here's the reality most men

05:56:56.040 don't have leverage on the first date most men are not going to have the leverage to dictate anything

05:57:01.800 to you because y'all are boss babe independent blah blah blah once you're in a relationship though

05:57:07.960 if you respect his input then i think he can start setting boundaries you guys want to call it

05:57:13.800 control but literally all boundaries are a form of control that's what a boundary is drawing lines

05:57:20.440 around behaviors you don't want your partner to engage in so prior to dating like if you're on the

05:57:25.960 first second third date maybe he had no problem with you engaging in what he considers like single

05:57:31.080 behavior so it could be dressing revealing posting thirst traps going to the club doing all this

05:57:35.240 stuff but once you started dating he now wants you to act in a way that he thinks is consistent

05:57:41.640 and commensurate with now being in a relationship like for example when you're single you could

05:57:47.240 technically go fuck a bunch of different dudes now you're in a relationship he's controlling you

05:57:53.160 is it controlling for your boyfriend to not want you to fuck other men in a relationship the thing is

05:57:57.320 that they approached me knowing how i like dress and everything so like that makes no sense to like

05:58:02.520 try to change i'll i'll agree with you on and it's like the guys that oh i want you to i want

05:58:07.480 you to dress covered up because i don't want other men looking at you the way i look at you it's like

05:58:11.880 that's insane but now you're looking at another woman how i used to dress just like you're you're

05:58:17.400 respecting your man but your man is not respecting you you know like he's not going to really respect

05:58:22.120 you so he's going to be looking at the women that was dressing how you i think changing someone

05:58:27.160 isn't like you're gonna be changing somebody he's gonna be looking like wow she looks somebody so

05:58:31.160 yes it is no it's not it is why pursue someone that you want to change you guys confused decent

05:58:36.680 respect why don't you talk let her talk let her talk you guys confuse decent respect for somebody

05:58:43.400 with them with controlling when it's not controlling it is just having decent respect

05:58:47.880 for somebody so i i agree with that hold on go find someone else that is covered up i so i agree with

05:58:55.640 that and i'll be charitable the guy if he wants a woman to dress modestly he should probably pursue

05:59:02.280 from the get-go a woman who dresses i agree with that however i don't necessarily think it's wrong

05:59:09.240 like once for example let's say you uh the girl prior to getting into the relationship she's going

05:59:15.880 out to bars and parties and clubs i think yes you do have to change i think it's not an unreasonable

05:59:21.800 like what but wouldn't you apply that like i don't think it's an unreasonable expectation clothes and

05:59:27.000 a lifestyle like but that's loving and partying is not the same as like how you dress wait but let me

05:59:32.280 ask you a question do you want do you want your guy do you want your guy let me ask you a question

05:59:37.400 have maybe you've had this experience what about a guy who's liking other women's photos on instagram

05:59:42.280 is that problem is that problem is a problem for you yeah that is weird oh but why would you date him

05:59:47.800 knowing going in knowing that he was doing that but that's sending signals no it's not yeah a guy

05:59:54.120 like a guy liking no no no well i mean we're doing the same thing we're liking other guys pictures

05:59:59.560 but you change your ways yeah but you're not liking half naked photos of men on the internet yes i can

06:00:04.920 yes i can like if they have a different issue entirely but it's like a common corner would you

06:00:08.920 yeah literally it's like whatever is popping up on my for you page someone someone's taking beach

06:00:12.760 pictures i think they look good okay question when you if you meet a guy and he's watching a

06:00:17.640 bunch of porn yeah i'm not gonna date that how would you know how would you you ask them do you do

06:00:23.240 you watch that okay then you keep your boundary and then you really you don't you don't pursue that

06:00:29.560 yes because that's weird you wouldn't date you wouldn't date a guy who watches porn i mean that's

06:00:33.160 fine no i wouldn't oh why not because like because why if they're gonna continue to watch porn while

06:00:39.240 we're like in a relationship it's just like okay she's gonna continue if she's gonna continue

06:00:43.880 dressing revealing in the relationship okay i'll bring it back down one sec one sec i'll bring it

06:00:50.760 back down i'll bring it back down a guy who likes a guy who likes a girl's instagram photos that are

06:00:58.760 similar to yours so it's like i don't know kind of revealing or whatever would you not be okay with

06:01:04.040 that no i wouldn't be okay with that why not what who are you to dictate at the beginning of the

06:01:10.040 relationship like if you're on the first date with a guy and he's like very controlling that's super

06:01:14.120 controlling i literally can't say anything because when you're single before before you're me like

06:01:20.040 before you meet someone yes you are liking like whatever you like wait he's liking his picture i'm

06:01:25.240 liking my picture so just to be clear like that makes no sense how am i gonna be like oh so he used to

06:01:29.640 like pictures okay i used to like pictures too like that like you know i'm not gonna but this

06:01:35.080 seems to be a complaint that i hear more so from women than i hear from men women are like oh my god

06:01:41.320 i'm dating this guy but he's liking this other chicks like some some ig model whatever her photos

06:01:46.680 i hear this complaint pretty frequently oh why is he following her whatever it is

06:01:51.160 is so just to be clear instead of the girl having a conversation with the boyfriend saying hey now

06:02:00.520 that we've been dating for three months i'm kind of uncomfortable that you're following uh these girls

06:02:06.040 on ig i'm uncomfortable that you're liking their whatever she should just dump him instead

06:02:11.480 no if he doesn't say you know what this makes you uncomfortable let me respect you and unfollow beautiful

06:02:16.840 then so you dressing revealing and posting thirst thirst traps makes me uncomfortable why can't you

06:02:22.040 respect me okay but he knows oh he again again again but you go into the relationship he's approaching

06:02:28.040 me okay i'm a model i'm posting these pictures literally you're a model yes like i have it's what

06:02:33.640 you do for work yes i do do it for work i have a question okay fine the way i'm not gonna i'm not

06:02:40.920 gonna stop dressing like cute little miniskirts y2k just because a man doesn't like that but yet he

06:02:46.920 approached me because he liked the way i look like that like he thinks i look like cool and stuff

06:02:52.360 sure go ahead okay liking pictures though and clothes is different you're liking pictures of

06:02:57.560 half-naked girls is like sending them a signal that you're interested wearing clothes that are

06:03:02.600 half-naked it's dressing half-naked exactly that's why you're saying you deserve to get i'll let you

06:03:06.840 in in just a sec because you're wearing something revealing well it's really not though so because

06:03:12.760 you're not suggesting to anyone by wearing revealing clothes that you're open for you know

06:03:18.760 attention and i don't know okay so you're sitting there saying that you're having a hard time with

06:03:23.720 your guy liking these pictures or your guy watching porn you don't think you dressing revealing

06:03:27.640 like that there's not a guy jacking it onto your ig pictures you're not sending them a signal

06:03:32.360 your man knows that your man knows what other men are doing your pictures and you're like oh

06:03:36.520 well it's not my issue i'm a model i'm sure there's a girl out there doing the same thing to a shirtless

06:03:41.160 man you know that's crazy what it could be exactly respect for your partner but i think if you're out

06:03:49.160 at a club or just on the street wearing revealing clothing this is a lot about who you are as a person

06:03:53.880 and what you're open to whether it's your intention or not like i i try to dress more moderately

06:03:59.720 and conservatively now especially now that i have a boyfriend that's fair yeah i mean i'm not

06:04:04.760 i'm not dressing like this to find my husband i don't care obviously when i'm gonna find my

06:04:08.920 husband i don't really dress i'm not gonna dress like this when i'm 30 like that's kind of weird

06:04:13.000 so are you saying you don't want to find a husband until you're 30 yeah i don't after i'm 30 that looks

06:04:17.560 like that's normal and she can have that preference if she wants to yeah that's if that's what i want

06:04:22.440 that's what i want i'm not trying to find my husband in two years who said maybe that's what

06:04:27.000 i want though that's not what every girl wants that's not maybe we can bring a little bit of

06:04:31.000 clarity here real quick um who does here doesn't want to be in a controlling relationship raise your

06:04:37.000 hand i feel like everybody well i mean what is your definition of controlling hang on obviously

06:04:45.160 switch and close hang on hang i'll explain if you just chill out for two seconds i'll explain

06:04:50.520 i think that all relationships are controlling that the nature of relationships with people

06:04:55.560 are by definition controlling that's fair yeah here's and let me explain i like my tacos with no

06:05:02.120 fucking lettuce my wife puts lettuce on those fucking tacos there's going to be hell to pay

06:05:07.480 right and i like extra fire saw now here's the thing oh you're talking about taco bell

06:05:11.960 it's definitely an imposition no yeah yeah no sidebar but anyway it's definitely an imposition

06:05:21.800 on her to make the tacos with no lettuce for me when everybody else in the house likes the tacos with

06:05:27.720 lettuce right it's a form of control i'm controlling her behavior she ordinarily wouldn't make the tacos

06:05:34.120 with lettuce in the case with me she makes them without lettuce doing something which she's at first

06:05:39.400 doing normally right for me that's a form of control basically everything in relationships

06:05:46.280 is a form of control everything we're just talking about thresholds right isn't that really what we're

06:05:52.120 talking about it's just a threshold for control so if that's the case then all brian's pointing out

06:05:58.280 here is like look uh it's very controlling if you say if a man goes and clicks on a woman's profile

06:06:06.120 and leaves a like right you're trying to enforce a form of control i don't like this behavior he likes

06:06:12.520 it right but you don't like it so you're controlling his behavior he's doing the exact same thing when

06:06:18.600 it comes to clothes how's that not exactly the same thing you're still trying to control behavior no

06:06:23.560 matter what uh i mean i disagree but i'm i'm out of the conversation i'm just confused though like

06:06:31.000 couldn't you say that like he's liking one woman's photo maybe it's a couple different women's photo

06:06:38.520 that's literally sending them the signal that you're interested though by liking their million

06:06:42.680 followers like why don't you trust him why don't i mean if you're if your whole following list is a

06:06:48.040 bunch of like instagram girls half naked and he's liking their pictures all the time come on

06:06:53.160 yeah he has less of a chance with them than than you do yeah but he's still

06:06:57.400 going to the club he's still like sending that signal to them that he's interested but but you

06:07:02.280 guys are the the the the posting thirst traps thing thing is like the i mean i only post thirst

06:07:09.160 trucks for business financial reasons like revealing photo like i can't speak yeah sure bikini photo

06:07:16.440 sure what sorry now look it could be like a certain pose like you know you're the ass out you know the

06:07:23.000 ass out photo that could be look and by the way i don't think your photos are that crazy or anything

06:07:29.000 but no yeah let me get this right let me get this right to you chair too if your man was liking the

06:07:34.760 pictures that the gallon pink had up that we just saw okay her picture you tell him you hang on you

06:07:41.480 would tell him not to do that no her picture there's nothing wrong with her pictures there's

06:07:45.480 way worse so he can like those pictures that yeah i mean most girls post pictures like that um

06:07:51.960 oh so it's not uncommon wait going to you if your boyfriend was liking another girl's photos that

06:07:58.200 were like yours you'd be cool with it um if they had like a low following count yeah that's kind of

06:08:03.720 weird but if they're like you know buy your own stuff maybe like he likes her style or something you

06:08:10.120 know okay right because he likes just like it's like like i'm not gonna get mad because you're liking a

06:08:16.840 celebrity's picture or chair too they're never gonna look your boyfriend was liking her pictures

06:08:21.480 the pictures that we just saw brian pull those up again right just so that we can demonstrate that

06:08:28.440 i would see that that is a little weird okay so your boyfriend's liking these pictures

06:08:33.640 what they're just the first and second picture and he looked at you and said baby i just like the

06:08:39.480 picture because i really like the style you would you would believe that shit no that's what that's

06:08:45.720 that's fucking stupid that's a dumb excuse why was he liking those photos that's literally the entire

06:08:51.320 point i've been making the box why why is he liking those huh well that's the entire point i've been

06:08:58.760 making uh sending them a signal that he thinks that it's an attractive picture but i mean i've seen

06:09:05.480 way worse pictures than that had my boyfriend you haven't seen way worse i'm just saying that if he

06:09:10.120 said it's because of the style you wouldn't believe him no i mean that's a dumb ass why would you expect

06:09:15.160 him to believe her if she said i'm just putting them up there for women why would you why would

06:09:23.160 he ever believe that if it's a guy that's like not into fashion or anything i would see that it's

06:09:27.960 yeah but if it's like a family really depends on okay like type of guy i could see like okay maybe

06:09:32.760 like i gotta move it on uh you said women are the prize how so and why we are the prize like we're

06:09:38.920 just we're just there to like literally like literally we're just genuine you know we're there

06:09:46.280 to like listen to them genuine genuine genuine genuine genuine you've never heard of what genuine

06:09:53.400 is no but like what do you mean by genuine lies like what does that mean like no ill intentions you

06:10:00.920 know like no like we're there to literally love love here literally love them be in love with them

06:10:08.840 literally like oh you like oh just literally like wait hold on love them unconditionally women are way

06:10:16.920 more likely to go on a date with a dude and like have no intentions

06:10:24.200 like no intention like so y'all for example have you heard of the term foodie call so girl will go on

06:10:29.240 a date with a dude just for like the food i've never been like that you've never done i i get

06:10:33.240 what you're like trying to say but i mean or it doesn't have to be food it could just be an

06:10:36.440 experience like oh he's going to take me to a concert don't i'm not really feeling it but i'll

06:10:40.280 it what why not no i've never done that why do women wear makeup okay i'm gonna just just make up

06:10:46.440 is like um art makeup is art yeah but like it's changing your physical appearance it's enhancing your

06:10:53.480 appearances what do you mean so it's enhancing so you're you're not being genuine like that's not

06:10:59.160 how you actually look how does that make sense what do you mean being genuine makeup makeup is not

06:11:03.640 genuine how no it's not genuine you're not that's not how you genuinely look you look different oh that

06:11:09.960 okay that's how you're using it no yeah that's not how you genuinely look like we don't have black

06:11:15.480 wing eyeliner without makeup obviously but it's art so you know what we do like that wing eyeliner

06:11:22.360 we do you know like these like pink yeah but you do it to be to look better we do it because like

06:11:30.680 it does it does like make us look better like we do feel better when we look better guys why not

06:11:35.880 do it go ahead so literally why not do it if it makes us feel better because we do look better

06:11:41.480 you know it's like it's like really pretty like it's like getting a new haircut yeah that's fine

06:11:44.760 it's like a guy getting a new haircut he likes to do it it's not genuine though it's not genuine

06:11:50.840 so you're gonna go out to a date like with your hair like not done you're not using it in like the

06:11:54.440 right way though it's like i feel like i like because like a people say that like a guy's haircut

06:11:59.160 is a dude's makeup it's like a girl's makeup yeah it's it if you never heard that yeah women can do

06:12:04.360 their hair to them typically it's not socially tolerated especially in a romantic context for men to wear

06:12:10.600 makeup but now we're comparing so like a guy's haircut is like the same as a girl no trust me

06:12:14.920 it definitely oh trust me it trust me it definitely trust me a guy's haircut it literally makes a

06:12:19.560 difference well now i'm gonna use your logic so that we can use like if you were to shave your

06:12:23.160 whole head right now you would look way different but if you were to grow your whole hair and like

06:12:27.640 grow it long you're it's just you're not gonna look that would apply to you do do you actually

06:12:32.680 think your head maybe maybe you will look less attractive with your hair yeah i agree with you hold on

06:12:38.200 i agree with you that a man's haircut has an impact on his attractiveness yeah i don't think it's the

06:12:43.880 same order of magnitude that the difference makes when it comes to makeup yeah i definitely feel like

06:12:50.520 it does like you know they do look different with the haircut like everything yes i agree that they look

06:12:58.520 different we would agree that that's the same with women that women with a haircut will look different

06:13:03.560 just like men will look different with a haircut for instance you said brian if i shave you bald

06:13:08.280 you're going to look way different i totally agree however if i shaved you bald you're going to look

06:13:12.280 totally different the advantage that you have is that women look good with hang on hang on

06:13:17.320 short and long hair one second calm down one second the difference is is that your makeup

06:13:24.600 that was a really shitty remark it wasn't very nice anyway your response wasn't nice either what did i

06:13:31.080 say that was not nice you don't you don't approach hold on hold on hold on hold on no you don't do

06:13:35.320 that well how do you do it when somebody cuts you off just let them talk and when when they're done

06:13:40.680 talking then you can talk just like okay like yeah i know but i wasn't done talking okay hold on hold

06:13:45.480 on no no no no wait wait wait let me go all right you see that's not nice is it

06:13:51.560 i'm sorry i'll just let you go again here i'm gonna bring it back on topic so anyway so back to this

06:13:56.200 hold on i just want to know the simple simple answer to the question which is don't you think

06:14:02.680 that you still would have an advantage if you were shaped bald and had makeup and brian would have less

06:14:07.000 of an advantage if he was shaped bald did not have it um yeah we do because i feel like women are just

06:14:12.520 more attractive than men period you see you could just answer the question instead of having a shitty

06:14:16.920 attitude and then everything i'm just matching your energy here i'm gonna bring it back women are the

06:14:21.640 prize why if you think my energy stop stop stop stop women are the prize why i'm asking you i

06:14:28.840 already i already said it so you heard it you said women are genuine okay what how's that make them the

06:14:33.880 prize and they're not they wear makeup so they're not y'all ain't genuine being genuine has nothing to

06:14:39.320 do with yes it does yes it does it has everything to do with it no no it doesn't hold on who cares more

06:14:45.640 about looks men or women men do oh okay and you're changing something about your face do you think men

06:14:51.000 care about women's face men do care about looks i think women care more because of how you guys

06:14:56.840 affect us you make us not feel as attractive without me oh it's all men's fault no hold up so

06:15:05.000 if so just to be clear you're gonna go ahead and grant that men care a lot about physical looks

06:15:10.440 you are you are warping that initial impression the reality is when it comes to looks you can't get you

06:15:19.960 can't get beyond really anywhere unless the person's attracted to you really and looks is a

06:15:27.400 major component of that i think women care about looks a bunch but men definitely care a lot about

06:15:31.560 looks and you you're putting on a literal facade now look some women wear minimum weight makeup some

06:15:38.280 women wear uh none it's a facade you wouldn't wear it if it didn't make you look better now maybe it's the

06:15:45.400 case that a man would date you regardless whether you have the makeup or you don't but you are there

06:15:51.800 are some women who do some like insane transformations to the point where that dude wouldn't deal with you

06:15:56.920 if you were you didn't look like that with the makeup damien pull up that makeup tab on the twitter

06:16:02.040 it's one of the first twitter ones we it's old you got it yeah there's a whole bunch of makeup things we can

06:16:09.720 pull up i'm telling you there's a lot of dudes who ain't dealing with the girl on the left but

06:16:15.320 they're dealing with the girl on the right like i think that's edited her face is smaller yeah that's

06:16:20.120 definitely it's a different it's a different angle no her face is definitely edited yeah it's like

06:16:26.600 it's a different photo well yeah but look at how big her face here okay damien pull up the discord

06:16:32.600 go to the makeup tab i mean if you guys see what you're saying if you guys disagree that makeup changes

06:16:37.480 your physical i don't disagree but that would make up time makeup time makeup time

06:16:46.040 discord you got it pull it up

06:16:51.480 fake up yes yes you're completely changing your looks yeah it's a problem but if

06:16:55.800 i mean uh let's see here which one do i want to pick scroll up scroll up

06:17:01.480 uh which one do we but yeah even if they do look different without it they're still going to put it on

06:17:07.240 so it's like hold on it's still gonna wait scroll down scroll down hold on i'm trying to think of

06:17:12.040 the oh uh this number eight circumcision what chill out man i was just reading the word

06:17:20.760 but the thing is like okay okay but i'm telling you that there are dudes who would not date the girl on

06:17:26.760 the left but they would date the girl on the right okay that's and i'm not saying all women put on that

06:17:31.240 full glam like that i don't know if that's full glam but it's full glam so exile that let's see another

06:17:39.080 one i'm just saying it's not genuine like if men if men lied about i mean they do men lie about certain

06:17:46.440 things but i don't think anything is as powerful as makeup like a man could lie and say he's an attorney

06:17:51.320 or a doctor but really he works at mcdonald's that's not even as powerful as the effect that makeup has

06:17:56.680 in a differentiation when it comes to attractiveness what i mean by genuine hold on scroll back scroll up

06:18:03.320 you guys lie about the size of your freaking eggplants i feel like that's pretty bad yeah

06:18:09.400 like it's fine it's fine if we look a little different no but it's a known fact that y'all lie

06:18:14.440 about them yeah i think that's wrong well hang on suddenly you can make generalities but before we

06:18:19.560 ask you about generality about self-attractiveness you can't answer that question well it's not a

06:18:23.960 generality i'm a female and i have in fact been with men have you been with men haven't been lied

06:18:31.000 to you about the size of their eggplants you just said they didn't well i'm a female so i would know

06:18:35.240 the answer to that but have you been with me how would you know answer that no man's ever lied to

06:18:39.320 you about the size of their eggplant i'm sorry repeat the question how would you know that if

06:18:44.440 no man's ever lied to you about the size of your eggplant i think most people at this table

06:18:49.240 could probably say that a man has lied yeah but how could you know that if no man's ever lied to

06:18:54.040 you about that i didn't say that you did say that you said no but you've never asked a man therefore

06:18:59.800 they've never i've never asked that doesn't mean that when the big reveal happens you don't see that

06:19:04.200 it's not right oh it just came up in random conversation random guy we're having a chat and he

06:19:11.560 said that he was hung like a fucking stud horse and he wasn't that's what happened bro this is such

06:19:18.920 a false equivalence because i know i lose all hold on guys stop this it's a total false equivalence

06:19:28.200 here any girl here at the table you weren't into the dude and then he said i have a big cock and then

06:19:33.240 you fucked him really no it's a total nobody said that nobody said that yeah you offered it up as well

06:19:40.680 men lie about their penis first of all i've never had a one night stand so that's not really

06:19:45.640 well where are all these people lie to you about their eggplant then most men you're a man you know

06:19:51.880 this i've never lied no i don't know this what the fuck not only have i never had a conversation about

06:19:58.440 the size of a man's penis with another man uh therefore there's never an opportunity for such

06:20:04.360 man to lie to me about the size of his penis but it would never be pertinent information to me one way

06:20:09.640 or the other and also you're in the same position if you say no man's ever lied to you about the size

06:20:15.320 of their penis how do you know that because i'm a female and i've been with men what why but i don't

06:20:23.240 even know okay so i'm sorry let's just make this clear has a man ever lied to you about the size of

06:20:29.080 their penis of course okay they have so how and how did this come up without you asking him i think

06:20:38.120 we know how this comes up you no i don't think we do which is why i'm asking you because i'm not sure

06:20:43.560 well if you know the story of the birds and the bees that might be a good start during the story of

06:20:50.680 the birds and the bees a man lied to you about his penis size is that correct oh boy next topic

06:20:59.240 no no gavel sound is that no there's one on the table i can you know it's it's not even a fair

06:21:09.400 can i actually this you see the crystals there on the table yeah i just want to know your favorite

06:21:13.640 color crystal why why would it what do you mean oh my god i just i can't know your favorite color

06:21:23.160 crystal why do you want to know i'm just curious i'm curious why you want to know you can't be

06:21:29.800 i just told you i can't answer the question yeah i'm just curious that's all so hang on it's fair

06:21:36.840 for you to ask i tend to slouch so it's totally fair for you to ask me why and i give you my answer

06:21:41.640 i'm just genuinely curious what's your favorite color crystal i don't have one you don't have a

06:21:48.040 favorite color no crystal if you had to select which color crystal which color would you pick

06:21:54.840 all of them all right we have law fest does mental illness cause liberalism or is it the other way

06:22:00.360 around that is a question for the ages blah fest i do appreciate it we have hayden coming in in just

06:22:07.000 a moment i'm going to start reading it hayden says he's 5 11 he makes well over 100k a year

06:22:11.480 in oil and gas lives in a cheaper area so that's a lot for here i wouldn't bother with anyone on this

06:22:16.360 show i don't care about my woman's income i'll provide uh there you go hayden thank you so much

06:22:22.120 for that message and then we do have davon jackson coming in here in just a sec guys tts is 200 read

06:22:29.480 is 100 uh also if you're enjoying the stream like the video so davon jackson says styling hair that grows

06:22:37.720 naturally from a man's face head is worlds different from putting chemicals on your face to change the

06:22:42.680 color structure of your face you absolute fool says davon jackson so wait what

06:22:50.600 look it's just makeup has that effect so why are women the prize though

06:22:59.480 i already told you

06:23:00.840 you just said you guys already yes trump loving

06:23:08.200 she's clapping man oh shit you know we're bringing politics into it yikes did you vote kamala who who

06:23:13.800 who here voted kamala oh no raise your hand i'm okay you should not talk about that here why not

06:23:17.880 should we talk about why not let's talk about vaccinations then if you want to talk about

06:23:23.880 what we can oh no we can talk about politics it's fine like it i'm gonna sit out for that one

06:23:30.280 what i'm canadian so i don't know anything about y'all's stuff going on here i live on a rock

06:23:37.000 okay i think y'all technically live on a rock you're you know you're very true no no okay so you said

06:23:43.000 i'm a trump you said i'm a trump lover uh you don't even know my politics you said you want to see

06:23:48.440 his butt hole but is there anything wrong literally oh my god i don't think he said

06:23:52.680 didn't he rape children bro you can't say yes no he literally there's literally proof there was

06:23:57.960 literally proof of it and he's literally a felon just like really making you're literally making

06:24:03.080 sure do you want to trans the kids should should uh should kids be able to get puberty blockers like

06:24:09.080 a known fact and plus like no answer the question i don't know answer the question so many places

06:24:13.160 okay do you think that's the man you want that's crazy low like you guys literally have low iqs

06:24:19.800 i think you're just mad he's going to deport your family

06:24:35.720 oh she's she's allowed to talk a bunch of shit but he's not okay so

06:24:39.720 guys oh what about white people go ahead go ahead like this like what acts like what how am i

06:24:56.040 acting just so disrespectful like you've been disrespectful for families like what are you

06:25:00.360 talking about he made wait so it's okay for you to make a joke but he can't make a joke how is that a

06:25:04.520 joke it literally andrew he was literally getting deported literally no you explain why what you

06:25:11.000 said is they're literally being treated like criminals because they came here to live a better

06:25:15.320 life literally you want to talk about immigration you want to talk about immigration if they're here

06:25:19.800 legally how does that make them like a criminal because they came here illegally but how do you

06:25:25.560 know like a criminal like murders it's literally against the law literally it's literally they're

06:25:29.880 literally committing a crime they're literally committing a crime so y'all pick and choose

06:25:33.800 when it's like okay to like go against the law because technically we have a president that's a

06:25:37.640 felon you know but but with yeah latinos aren't the only ones here illegally do you know that right

06:25:43.400 you should deport so why are you guys going after latinos though like you guys are like so racist for

06:25:48.680 that how would it be racist you literally there's other races here that are here illegally but why are you

06:25:54.120 because a white man is coming it's like saying that to me like obviously i'm going to say something

06:25:58.360 about this white man he was literally making a joke it's not a joke how is that funny though

06:26:02.120 how how did i everybody laugh did i laugh well here nobody left we were like nobody laughs bro you're

06:26:09.320 hold on i only explained how it's funny because half the room laughed that's how i know it's funny

06:26:13.720 nobody i didn't think it was that room literally did you not hear people go oh because that's like a

06:26:20.600 laughing in fact okay point them out yeah point those people out right now do you think starting next

06:26:26.680 to brian would be uh chair one then chair two then chair three moving over on the right side

06:26:32.760 you hang on so going over to the right side stop i'll go over to the right side now from my perspective

06:26:37.560 right trying to trying to tell you the names right i'm pretty sure i called you out for that comment

06:26:42.920 though so all those people laughed yeah and you know what i i perceive that as a joke i didn't think

06:26:49.800 he was being serious girl just like are you okay are you okay i would perceive that as a joke

06:26:56.600 that's actually really stupid to laugh about cracker i'd probably laugh because i have a sense of humor

06:27:01.000 don't say that oh my god oh fucking hey stop you need to stop what you're why are you so angry

06:27:13.880 because you're making a fucking you're doing a song because i'm doing a song why are you angry

06:27:19.320 i'm just a girl why do you hate me now you're being obnoxious now you're just being obnoxious and

06:27:24.200 you're not so just to be clear you can be abusive towards us in joke format but we can't return

06:27:31.080 abusive you said we're stupid you said we have a low iq and then you yeah because you guys are

06:27:35.160 literally laughing about deporting families no you said that first you're literally

06:27:39.560 gaslighting i never left about deporting families bro be quiet and listen you you said we had low

06:27:45.800 iq you said we're stupid before he made that comment do you need us to rewind the tape you are you

06:27:52.120 literally said that before he made the joke you said we were stupid because you guys you guys like

06:27:58.200 trump literally like who's the trump voter here i would be if i was i would be cool yeah sorry you

06:28:06.520 think it's low iq i definitely yeah i do think have you taken an iq test what's your iq i'm not

06:28:12.600 going to tell you but no i haven't you probably haven't taken one can you describe basic economics

06:28:17.320 like or what the purpose of a tariff is i have heard of that okay should a woman be able to get

06:28:22.520 an abortion like a day before she would otherwise give birth what not i'm asking you can't even get an

06:28:28.440 abortion the day before really okay there are states who cares about the law i'm asking should they be

06:28:33.160 allowed to i mean i wouldn't do that should women be allowed to get an abortion before

06:28:39.000 the day they would otherwise give birth honestly i can't i can't say yes or no that's really how can

06:28:45.080 you how can you justify that i'm not gonna that's someone whether the baby six inches in or six inches

06:28:50.120 out it's a baby i don't think that's right i literally i just said i wouldn't do that can you

06:28:53.640 speak into the mic wasn't california a state where they were doing like post-birth birth abortions where

06:28:58.760 they were snapping the baby that is not true i never heard of that i had heard an argument about

06:29:03.880 that i'm not sure you heard an argument that's a literally murder that's illegal you heard it so

06:29:09.080 it doesn't make it true that's what i said do you think uh people below the age of 18 should be

06:29:13.800 able to transition absolutely not i'm not asking you oh

06:29:17.080 i don't know i feel like when you're a teenager you do realize whether you want to be a girl or a

06:29:29.960 boy okay so so if your 10 year old came to you when you have kids and your 10 year old's like hey mom i

06:29:36.120 think uh it's a boy i think i'm a girl are you gonna start giving them puberty blockers no i would let

06:29:41.480 them start dressing like a girl like if they wanted to when would you let them take puberty

06:29:45.640 blockers um honestly like when they're 18 they could do anything they want when they're 18.

06:29:52.440 you know you're an adult at that age do whatever you want but until then like you know i'm not gonna

06:29:59.000 do that i'm not gonna make sure you go on puberty that's insane oh boy spicy ween 89 donated 200

06:30:08.760 andrew i giggled heavily at the immigration joke

06:30:14.440 he that's because it was really funny that's because it was really funny that's why oh man

06:30:19.720 all right thank you man spicy ween that's that's great uh we have jason cassell coming i know it's

06:30:25.000 offensive to criminals to get deported from our country that i'm sure that they find it quite

06:30:30.040 offensive but i i'm not offended by it i think it's great i literally want all the people here

06:30:36.760 to be out of here i vote we deport the trans in jail and her illegal family oh no you've invoked

06:30:44.360 to their wrath i don't know what to do we have another one coming in oh boy jason thank you for

06:30:50.040 the message man how did we get to fucking politics by the way great guy how did we get

06:30:55.560 to politics we got to politics because you asked who voted for kamala who voted for trump no i thought

06:30:59.400 that's what we got there you know i'm pretty sure yeah wait wait wait i just said he wanted to

06:31:08.680 fuck trump and then he brought up the rest so yeah i mean i've already explained it was it was a joke

06:31:14.280 and i mean i don't know what else to tell you but what does iq stand for i don't even want to like

06:31:20.040 what what what what does iq stand for i know i i i'm just gonna stop talking because i don't

06:31:26.600 want to well oh hold on so just to be clear you can be abrasive towards us i'm just gonna literally

06:31:30.600 stop asking i'm answering questions because honestly this is that was pretty disrespectful

06:31:34.680 and i'm not wait were you i'm not going to continue were you disrespectful first were you

06:31:38.520 disrespectful first no no so when you said we're stupid and we have low iq which you said before

06:31:44.840 andrew said anything about immigration that's okay okay i said what i said and i said i'm not

06:31:50.360 going to answer any more questions this is like zero accountability women just dodging fucking

06:31:54.200 accountability like crazy you said it's not it's not the court of law you don't get to invoke the fifth

06:31:59.640 right it's like you're not gonna be like well i'm invoking my fifth amendment right you're not in a

06:32:04.440 courtroom you're not a police station right it is a more sensitive is not mandatory it's like it's

06:32:10.200 not mandatory especially right now so i mean this is a pretty controversial podcast i'm not sure if

06:32:15.640 you've seen it before but you could definitely expect i mean yeah and it's like this hasn't even

06:32:19.720 been that bad this is this is mild i was expecting pretty mild i expected worse oh she expected

06:32:25.560 worse i expected to get torn apart there's still time champagne pump no i'm kidding even though even

06:32:33.640 though you're the woman on the panel probably should have gotten the most right away you didn't get as

06:32:37.240 much grief because you've been engaging good faith who and so you oh yeah you you've been engaging good

06:32:42.440 faith so if you engage in good faith right people generally uh take a liking to you even if they disagree

06:32:49.560 with everything you say yeah i mean i'm pretty like open-minded as well so but when you call trump

06:32:57.800 you know when you when you say brian's a stupid trump supporter low iq so when quips an immigration

06:33:02.760 joke and you get all butthurt people just think you're kind of a laughingstock it makes you an easy

06:33:07.320 target for sure yeah michael jones donated two hundred dollars chef seven is stonewall jacqueline

06:33:17.480 clutch or kick boom mike jones uh thank you mike jones i i do appreciate it i do appreciate it man

06:33:25.880 i was literally talking about makeup and then you're like oh well you're a you must be a a trump

06:33:31.480 supporting something low iq stupid it's like okay lady i don't know what did i say then tell me what i

06:33:38.520 said i don't know i'm trying to remember i'm usually not like outright just insulting people

06:33:43.240 point blank i feel like you've kind of been a little mean yeah you haven't i've been abrasive

06:33:49.320 towards you abrasive yes abrasive is there yeah but i haven't called you like a name pretty sure

06:33:56.680 pretty sure i haven't called you i've been frustrated back no i've been frustrated

06:34:02.200 like you're gonna get abrasiveness off people if they ask you basic questions like what what color

06:34:06.200 crystal do you like just to demonstrate that you refuse to answer any questions and then you say

06:34:10.440 i refuse to answer that question right no i just really don't have a preference she doesn't have

06:34:14.120 a preference we have davon jackson met men these women are sitting on a millionaire show talking to

06:34:20.920 him crazy in front of thousands of people imagine how they speak to the man they demand lead them in

06:34:26.760 private panel is cooked oh davon that's an interesting take man shit well she is talking to me this way in

06:34:34.680 public like behind closed doors i mean who knows what could happen who's she me her oh i was like

06:34:42.200 wait do you think you can be racist towards white people let's not go there no no let's go there no

06:34:48.200 let's go there i'm not gonna go there so you you do think i'm not gonna go there can you be sexist

06:34:53.160 towards men i'm not let's just um what was i gonna say oh that just like you're being rude so i was

06:35:00.360 being rude back no no no no you were rude first you got to take accountability on this no no no no

06:35:05.240 you were rude first your energy if andrew was black and you kept addressing him as you're a black man

06:35:11.560 you're a black man would that be racist to you

06:35:17.880 i'm not gonna answer that question sorry my bad uh wait but do you think do you think um can you be

06:35:25.320 racist towards white did you just assume my race that was that was rude no not at all i'm just

06:35:30.920 curious i'm just curious because it seems like you're picking and choosing what's racist and

06:35:34.600 what's not racist but i think that if you're addressing andrew as this white man white man white

06:35:39.080 man what i i i i find there's a level of hypocrisy there yeah what are you trying to say when you point

06:35:46.040 out that he that he's white or i'm white to comment on his skin yeah why are you bringing up skin color

06:35:51.720 isn't it called like reverse racism or something there's no such thing as reverse racism wait

06:35:56.440 question can you be racist towards white people that's what like there's like no such thing right

06:36:01.560 is that your is that your position i've like heard about that but you've heard about it is it your

06:36:05.720 position uh you know like i'm not gonna go there i mean you just went there i'm not gonna continue

06:36:12.360 i don't know what you said i don't you you look white to me then i'm white yeah

06:36:23.560 so then i don't understand the referent of why a white person would call me white

06:36:29.080 wouldn't that just be like stating the obvious you're you're confused

06:36:32.040 a white person something andrew it's terrible mr jimmy canadian 200 if chair seven doesn't like

06:36:37.560 white people why is she copying european beauty standards shouldn't she dress to the beauty

06:36:41.160 standards of her own people okay wait how do white people dress jeans i guess i don't know i guess

06:36:47.880 i guess jeans are for white people well they invented it i guess uh christopher a woman can expect a free

06:36:53.960 meal on the first date to check if a man can provide for her and to fight to protect her so can't a man

06:36:58.520 expect a woman to do some laundry clean some floors and massage his feet on the first date to check

06:37:03.560 to check if she can take care of a home and be nurturing w christopher well put nurturing and

06:37:11.640 taking care into the mic if you're gonna into the mic that like so you have to massage someone's

06:37:16.600 feet yes on the first day and you have to bow pull up the bow video really quick since it's topical

06:37:21.720 all right um that was interesting you know what i got a little light-hearted video for us to watch

06:37:28.360 i have two of them first the bow video this is uh my ex-girlfriend i took a video just to

06:37:33.080 teach my future girlfriends how to behave go ahead play now pay very close attention in this

06:37:38.520 video to the tomatoes boom huge bow so i expect to bow upon once a day she has to bow once a day

06:37:45.720 um all right you know i got this was after one of my crazy late podcasts so i got home i was tired

06:37:52.360 and she had my dinner ready scampering now the tomatoes this i had to scold her for the tomatoes

06:37:58.120 because i don't fuck with tomatoes like that that just i don't even like tomatoes sounds like my

06:38:04.440 last relationship yeah and then we're gonna play the bow the bow once again once it gets to the

06:38:09.960 yeah the scold her about the tomatoes won't let's just see the bow real quick

06:38:14.840 boom huge bow do you see the angle there that's that's my expectation on the first

06:38:18.920 do you have like a and laundry angle that you expect like a minimum requirement absolutely it has

06:38:24.360 to be at least 45 degrees anything less rude disrespectful i'm not about how you want a girl

06:38:32.520 to bow i don't bow to women they bow to me let's see it let's see it i'm not going to demonstrate

06:38:37.160 the bow you can do the bow and i'll tell you if it's good enough i'll tell you if it's a sufficient

06:38:42.280 bow you want to see me do it he does not have the same dimensions of the type of woman he would like

06:38:47.720 to be with any demonstration of about done by brian would not actually capture the image

06:38:56.200 that's crazy he's calling you botched he's calling me fat is what he's calling i need to lose some

06:39:04.520 weight it's true though i just i just said that there's dimensional differences that's a nice way

06:39:09.640 to put it nice you said you're built funny just said that he's tall and you're short the box says

06:39:16.360 she's tall i think she's kind of tall not too long yeah i am tall are you gonna bow you want to hit

06:39:20.840 the bow and i'll tell you if it's sufficient i'll tell you if it's girlfriend you'll be able to touch

06:39:24.680 the top of that you might finally get a boyfriend out of this you know if you do the bow correctly

06:39:29.000 she might yeah i don't know how we're going to reconcile our completely opposite political

06:39:33.000 positions but you know whatever whatever i'll make you a trump supporter you'll be maga for the next

06:39:37.880 20 years um okay uh let's see um and you know i'll give you i'll get wait hold on never mind never

06:39:45.640 mind never mind never mind hold on i got some chats coming through that's crazy jason castle donated 200

06:39:52.760 calm down chair seven men bust each other's balls you're a man you know how it goes that's crazy yo jason thank

06:40:01.480 just to be just to be clear i to say something nice to you i don't think you're a trans man i

06:40:11.240 don't think so either i think you're a biological woman i don't even think i look like a trans you

06:40:16.040 do not look you don't look like i'm not i'm really not mad shares one and seven on this show

06:40:25.640 the guests who engage in good faith are generally considered to be good guests

06:40:30.520 even especially if they disagree who would do a man's laundry on the first date show of hands

06:40:36.600 who would do a man's laundry on the first date w i would yeah abigail yeah w's if his hands were

06:40:42.520 broken i would i mean if there was like a reason for it yeah where are we going to do laundry his

06:40:48.040 house i don't know his house to be fair i wouldn't go to a dude's house on the first date exactly yeah

06:40:53.080 no just safety reasons probably yeah that's dangerous i agree i i'm terrified yeah hypothetically

06:40:58.520 come over they i feel like they're gonna murder me the women this is not real life it's not real

06:41:03.480 life come on you guys some some people here have had one night stands you know i mean you know what i

06:41:08.520 mean anybody yeah one night stands i don't know here and i make this bed in the morning who here

06:41:18.120 agrees women are the prize who here agrees with her show of hands show of hands

06:41:22.520 anybody should be putting their heads up yeah yeah all right for the sake of time unfortunately

06:41:28.120 we can't really argue this one but just know you're all wrong um just kidding but you are okay

06:41:33.800 damien let's do the little light-hearted video it's the youtube video go full screen with it

06:41:37.720 i got a little stand-up comedy for you that's dating related here a little a little something light you

06:41:42.840 know you know something for the us low iq uh go ahead and play it you might have to play with the

06:41:52.280 audio a bit but go ahead this is the greatest uno reverse card ever took this girl out right so i

06:41:58.040 told the girl at the table i said look i'm happy i'm having a great time tonight i'm happy i came out

06:42:02.840 because she looked really beautiful she cut me off right there let me tell you something real quick

06:42:07.080 brand and i said what's up she goes i want to let you know that i don't give it up on the first date

06:42:14.520 and i instantly got upset because i didn't think about getting done tonight i said how beautiful you

06:42:18.040 look how much fun i'm having that's what i said to you but why you don't give it up on the first date

06:42:24.920 she said well i don't want this relationship that we have to be just based off sex i want you to respect

06:42:30.440 me as a woman plus i got a lot going on in my life right now and i feel really bad if i give you

06:42:34.920 someone the first date and never hear from you again i would feel really bad i respect that makes

06:42:39.000 sense i don't know that's what she said right and i had to respect that but this bill came to the

06:42:43.160 table really really fast and i'm looking over the bill it was like a hundred and ninety dollars

06:42:49.560 first date to the bill and what i found out was that only had mozzarella sticks and two beers

06:42:56.200 so i told the girl i said look i'll put in forty dollars right

06:42:58.680 because i don't cover the tax on the tip because that's more than my portion of what i had

06:43:04.760 and she lost her mind said are you kidding me you invited me out i thought you were paying i said

06:43:10.200 listen i want to let you know something oh i don't pay on the first date

06:43:17.480 so you see i don't want this relationship based on me paying you know what i'm saying

06:43:21.480 i want you to respect me as a man you know what i'm talking about and uh got a lot going on in my life

06:43:26.440 right now and we're really bad about paying for this date tonight never hear from you again

06:43:37.000 well damn that's crazy crazy okay i'm going to blast through these notes as quick as by the way

06:43:44.280 that guy went to debate university then you can find debate university oh all right yeah he went

06:43:49.640 to debate university that's where he learned how to make arguments like that nice nice uh let's see

06:43:55.880 here we have uh jade toxic relationship situation while being in the adult industry

06:44:03.400 you want to talk about open relationships have you had open relationships no you want open

06:44:08.040 relationships yeah that's what i'm going to do moving forward if i ever have a relationship again

06:44:11.880 you said that monogamy in today's day and age is becoming less manageable and common with social

06:44:15.880 media and hookup culture yes uh and then you have i just wrote septum piercing here i don't know

06:44:22.360 because you have a septum piercing what i'm curious because we there's a lot of septum piercings out

06:44:28.440 there why are so many women getting septum piercings um honestly i've had mine since i was 15 like i've

06:44:37.480 had it for a long time at this point i wouldn't even want to take it out it's like a part of my face

06:44:41.960 can i ask what do you like about it i'm just curious what do you like about it honestly i mean this

06:44:47.160 one specifically i changed it to a more blingy one so you know sparkles and stuff in the light

06:44:53.000 looks nice i think it just like complements my face and my aesthetic uh same with tattoos like it

06:44:58.680 portrays my personality and my like aesthetic um through piercings and okay tattoos sure uh i'm gonna go

06:45:07.800 to dahlia did i say your name right really quick well it's dahlia dahlia pretty similar okay you said

06:45:13.800 you think modern dating is so exhausting and put so many people in the limbo of whether or not to

06:45:17.640 fully care about someone and be vulnerable because trust me every time i've put 100 dudes want to take

06:45:22.920 it and take advantage of it but when i treat a man like they're whatever they try the hardest

06:45:28.520 like damn does everyone want to be half loved but get the ick when they get actual effort

06:45:33.400 yeah i 100 stand by that so when you put in no effort that's when the guys they start putting

06:45:39.320 in effort when you put in all the effort they kind of for real i i don't know maybe it's i put too much

06:45:44.280 effort whenever i actually like really like a dude but i think i just have an issue that like whenever i

06:45:49.720 like reply in a day or whenever i like don't really like like i'm just like oh you're cool like we can

06:45:56.600 have conversation but like i'm barely invested they want to like pursue like oh my god like can you

06:46:02.760 please go out with me please go out with me and i don't understand that because i like to i like

06:46:06.760 being in relationships or at least i would want to be in one sure so i would think that if i'm giving

06:46:12.760 you 100 i would get that 100 but i feel like it turns opposite when i give them 100 before before

06:46:19.240 you continue here i just wanted to say it was nice to meet andrew guys i hope you have andrew wait the box

06:46:25.240 is leaving i i need you for 10 more minutes and i'll get into the i need 10 15 and i'll get into

06:46:32.520 the notes for why okay okay i'm gonna but we gotta gotta move it because yep where we're at i'm gonna

06:46:38.920 get so i think there are some panelists here who had specific grievances with you andrew so we're gonna

06:46:44.200 jump right to those so let me see in my notes here who had them uh court or sorry natalie did you have

06:46:52.200 specific grievances towards andrew no okay so then that was was it joy grievances towards andrew i

06:46:57.960 don't think so not specifically him like what and what or was it nicole uh wait there was a courtney

06:47:06.200 there was an episode where andrew um was speaking with nala nala she was a return guest a converted

06:47:12.600 christian and i just felt like um she should have been celebrated for her uh newfound relationship with

06:47:20.520 god not condemned for her past so it just didn't sit well with me because as much as i agree that

06:47:26.440 she shouldn't be giving you all of this new christian advice because you this is how you've

06:47:31.000 devoted your life and this is the path that you've chosen to walk down i think that it was worth

06:47:35.960 celebrating and acknowledging her for her changes andrew before you respond this is what she wrote

06:47:43.080 precisely she said i don't like how andrew and his wife treated that ex porn star i believe a godly

06:47:50.120 man would understand repentance and a key concept of christianity is becoming new again why do the

06:47:56.520 okay that's something else but andrew do you want to respond to that yeah so did you watch you watch

06:48:01.400 that whole episode uh probably not the whole thing no yeah so let me explain to you what actually

06:48:07.480 happened to give you some context early on a lot of people were against knowledge conversion and said

06:48:14.040 that she was grifting and a liar in a scumbag and i went to bat for her defended her publicly multiple

06:48:20.360 times on very big shows and said look you should give this person the absolute benefit of the doubt

06:48:26.440 i'd much rather see them go down this path than the opposite path you should give her the benefit of

06:48:31.960 the doubt when she was on the show though she became extraordinarily combative when we were discussing theology and she clearly didn't know what she was talking about right and so when as

06:48:42.040 and so when as the exchange went on right my position to her was as a new convert you probably shouldn't be spouting

06:48:50.120 off about things you don't know anything about that'll actually divert people away from the faith itself

06:48:55.720 her response to that of course was to be abrasive and brutal and this and that and so i answered in kind

06:49:01.720 and i will stand behind 100 right this second that i am not about to take any theological advice from

06:49:10.760 a woman who's had 50 dicks in her mouth i'm really not i'm just not willing to do that now

06:49:16.760 there may be better men than me out there who will there may be men out there who really will take

06:49:22.680 advice from brand new converts who have been uh you know spit roasted uh but i'm just not one of them

06:49:29.800 them and it's there's no amount of female shaming and crying and whining about it that's ever going

06:49:35.880 to convince me that i need to listen to women who are brand new converts and go from the prostitute to

06:49:42.200 save your pipeline i'm not doing it no way and a lot of that stuff just so you know because i've been

06:49:48.920 in this industry for a while is designed to buy a new reputation it's not designed necessarily to actually

06:49:56.920 convert to the thing but rather to use it as a shield from criticism in order to rebrand whatever

06:50:04.120 it is you're trying to rebrand towards and i was willing to give the benefit of the doubt until i

06:50:09.160 had the exchange with her myself thank you it was well put yeah no i i i should have watched the full

06:50:17.320 episode i guess before writing that but that's one of the clips that went viral so it was all over my

06:50:22.440 socials and well you have to remember that they who get to the clip first wins and so what happened

06:50:28.520 is a narrative was spun against myself and my wife uh without any context and without the entire episode

06:50:35.080 being seen usually the first thing i ask a person when they try to ridicule me for this is did you

06:50:39.080 watch the episode and guess what they say no no and what did you say no right so this is why i always

06:50:47.400 ask right the thing is is like am i am i an imperfect person absolutely do people piss me off if we're in

06:50:54.360 exchanges and uh you know sometimes i can become overly heated sure you know i'm i'm imperfect that

06:51:00.600 way um but i still am just not willing like try to think of it from my perspective like try to imagine

06:51:08.360 the men out there who they've been working their asses off for like 20 25 years supporting their family

06:51:14.120 and then they suddenly get their chest poked by this whole brand new crop of prostitutes who just

06:51:20.680 recently became christians who are poking them in the chest and going you're doing it wrong you're

06:51:25.240 doing it wrong you're doing it wrong they're like shut up lady shut up lady you know like i don't need

06:51:32.200 your advice if if your advice was so great and you were you were so great at what it was you were doing

06:51:37.720 you wouldn't have been doing all that to begin with how about you work on you before you start worrying

06:51:42.040 about how we're doing over here you know what i mean so that's the uh that was the general idea

06:51:48.760 can i can i ask a question andrew is it a disagreement or no no no it's it's just a view

06:51:54.520 question i as a christian do you feel like hatred towards people that disagree with you or do you just

06:51:59.960 wish to educate them and maybe change their opinion on things i feel hatred towards people all the time

06:52:04.760 it's a base passion that everybody hatred towards people i felt jealousy in my life i felt every base

06:52:11.720 passion you could ever imagine the whole point of christianity is not that you're not going to feel

06:52:17.080 passions like that but that you're supposed to control them that is what controlling the passions

06:52:21.880 is it's a rooted foundation of christian ethics is to control passions instead of passions controlling

06:52:27.640 you so no of course i get angry of course i get upset uh in fact probably even more than i would like

06:52:33.720 um but that's the the point of it is not to uh to say oh hey do you do you have some kind of dislike

06:52:41.160 of this taste for this person it's like sure but your your whole point is to try to control those baseline

06:52:47.400 yeah those baseline passions i'm sure everybody here has been angry and upset with people maybe even

06:52:51.720 this morning when you're driving to work and somebody cuts you off and you call them a

06:52:54.600 motherfucker right because if you off it doesn't mean it doesn't mean that you have actual hatred in your

06:53:01.000 heart towards the person i don't have any hatred towards uh towards knowledge she did piss me off

06:53:05.800 because she promised a debate and then wouldn't do it so i could never actually defend the position

06:53:10.280 in a show that i was correct but um no i don't i don't i don't hate i don't hate anybody anybody

06:53:17.240 anybody here have anybody here have any other uh disagreements with andrew except

06:53:23.000 carmelay harris parts ways okay hey you know any other any other objections or disagreements with

06:53:30.040 andrew before he leaves this is your last chance to argue with him last chance and then he's gone

06:53:37.240 whatever criticisms you have i'll address whatever they are i just want to tell you that my dad's a

06:53:41.080 big fan of yours your dad your dad got all the brains in the family

06:53:45.480 he's the he's the he's the most epic what's your dad's name al what is it albert albert albert oh

06:53:55.160 you call him al yeah yeah yeah i call him dad but everyone else calls him al i am now your biggest

06:54:02.120 fan now wow thank you that's all right that's so romantic do you want to say one more thing earlier

06:54:08.680 we're talking about feminism um that's cute go ahead um i i was totally against the fact that i

06:54:17.800 might be a feminist i think what you helped me realize is that i do align more with like

06:54:22.040 first and second wave feminism i think women should have the right to vote but i don't think that women

06:54:28.200 are greater than men or should be destroying family patriarchy so i appreciate the conversation

06:54:33.400 yeah the the basic idea um and i'm glad i'm glad that you can you can kind of see that too

06:54:39.880 it's like the idea of going after first or second wave feminism it's just all feminism right so you're

06:54:45.880 just a feminist supporter the thing is is the idea is not even to ridicule everybody in the united

06:54:53.000 states and in the west ultimately has a lot of feminist leanings because we've been raised in it our

06:54:57.960 entire lives it's the air we breathe it's the water we swim in it's the food that we eat feminism is

06:55:02.920 everywhere the idea of patriarchy is rejected even tonight we had a conversation about

06:55:08.120 control you hear a lot of i don't want to be controlled i don't want to be controlled that's

06:55:11.960 very western but the second you think about it you realize in a relationship relationships are all

06:55:17.160 about control your relationship with your spouse about control your relationship with your parents is

06:55:24.680 about control they're all they all are rooted in control and you wouldn't want it any other way

06:55:29.800 you wouldn't even want it any other way so it's it's bizarre to me that how much the wool's kind

06:55:34.600 of been pulled over our eyes and how much we don't actually think about these problems and instead just

06:55:39.000 go with a knee-jerk kind of reaction of like um hey this is bad patriarchy is bad or control is bad

06:55:45.960 or it's evil and it's like the more you think about it you realize wait a second no it's not and

06:55:50.120 what why the fuck did i even think that to begin with it's kind of silly yeah like you want a strong

06:55:54.120 family a strong man a good father to your kids absolutely i totally don't you want your don't

06:55:59.000 you want your man to control his environment you want him to control the household you want him to

06:56:03.080 control the finances you want him to control things that are happening around him and control the

06:56:07.720 behavior of your children you want him to do all that shit yeah right so it's like i don't i don't so i

06:56:13.720 i don't get it ultimately but the more i have these conversations the more i realize that

06:56:18.040 you know you guys are just indoctrinated into it and it's trying to unindoctrinate people is very

06:56:24.440 difficult because as you see from like chair seven there just hates my guts and there's nothing i'm

06:56:30.680 going to be able to do about that right ultimately she's not ever going to think again about anything

06:56:35.080 i've ever said or why i said it but regardless of how nice i was she'd hate me anyway like it doesn't

06:56:40.520 matter people get so indoctrinated in this ideology just hearing the opposite ideology they think you're

06:56:46.440 evil they literally just think instantly you're an evil person and there's not much you can do about

06:56:52.360 it so you you maybe reach one in 20 uh or more likely like one in 3 000 and it's like well i guess

06:56:59.480 i guess that's the best i can do yeah well i appreciate the conversation all right have a good

06:57:05.400 andrew thank you bye mr box i take none of this personally get chair one before i go can you just

06:57:11.560 tell me the color crystal just tell me what color crystal just tell him pink she likes the people

06:57:18.440 they're going in the pink crystal you're going in the she's going in the crystal all right

06:57:24.200 good to have you andrew we'll see you next week thank you andrew all right i'm gonna blast through

06:57:28.200 these final notes that we have um so we'll try to do as quickly as possible so we can get this wrapped

06:57:32.680 up so uh do we have any reacts damien i guess when we had one of your tiktoks or something

06:57:40.440 abigail is that your name abigail yeah do you prefer abby or abigail abby for for abigail let's

06:57:47.560 shit let's watch let's pull it up pull that up

06:57:50.280 uh for wait her instagram yeah i i have abigail's instagram no uh chair eight chair

06:58:00.920 hey oh no no but do we have something for abigail yeah yeah yeah listen uh i knew this was coming beginning

06:58:12.280 teacher can can i go to the toilet please i asked teacher

06:58:16.760 you said my teacher was actually the fuck you guy wait play it again play it again that's actually

06:58:23.400 really funny that was just read can i go to toilet please can i have an i have attractive people like

06:58:29.080 me i said so hinge is telling you fuck you there's no attractive guys on hinge basically you know what

06:58:34.920 after i posted that i feel like i kind of started getting some attractive guys and i was like maybe

06:58:39.240 you manifest manifest yeah are there other reacts besides just the instagram yeah okay

06:58:46.440 there's one other yeah or you can close those out because she's gone rest in rest in peace okay going

06:58:52.920 to natalie yes that's you yes okay you said in your prior life you would have constituted yourself

06:58:59.480 as a self-proclaimed salute your word your words correct in the sense that you didn't care who you

06:59:05.400 slept with despite also considering yourself a christian clearly those two are complete

06:59:11.240 contradictions you believe or uh you believed the lie that you could be a free woman in the world

06:59:18.120 by using your sexual sexuality to your own benefit but then you woke up and realized that one life

06:59:24.200 that was a life that led to nothing and two began to understand your worth and became educated on blood

06:59:29.800 red conservative values amen amen okay so when you say in your prior life you did self-proclaimed

06:59:38.120 salute yes what's what are we talking about here um i mean what are we talking i wasn't like gang

06:59:44.120 bangs or anything but like oh no no i mean like it was mainly college i think a lot of college went down

06:59:51.560 yes college went down i it was anytime i went out on a night out it was like who am i going home with

06:59:58.040 now i never had a one night stand um and the reason i say that is because i was either friends with the

07:00:03.400 people before like i knew them after the fact it wasn't like a stranger they were in your dorm

07:00:08.360 on a different floor correct so maybe i only slept with them one time but it wasn't something that like

07:00:12.680 i never knew them prior to uh you said you also said how american values have just disintegrated and

07:00:18.520 sex is the only thing we value correct uh you used to have be a self-proclaimed salute now you're

07:00:24.040 waiting until marriage yes and want to be a wife with kids yes so i guess uh let's see here um so

07:00:31.800 you've been dating a guy for two and a half years two and a half years yes uh neither of you are virgin

07:00:37.320 though correct but you're both christian you maybe both of you had a past when it came to dating sex

07:00:42.520 whatever but now you guys are celibate like you're waiting until marriage yes has there ever been like

07:00:47.000 close calls uh for sure i mean we haven't been perfect just for a second not just a tip is he

07:00:52.920 still here hello i mean like i would just say that like we haven't been perfect in the sense of like

07:00:59.560 we've done almost everything but um but that's not something that we try and bring into our relationship

07:01:05.080 always it's just been a few times over the last two and a half years um but we are waiting till

07:01:09.800 marriage and man is that difficult so i'm waiting for the wedding night to just get plowed oh let's

07:01:17.320 go wow okay yo andrew think for the raid man um did did he just send the raid did the raid just come

07:01:23.880 through i'll just get the the raiders caught up because maybe they missed it andrew was giving his uh

07:01:28.680 final uh speeches so uh in college used to be a salute yes now christian no longer salute correct i mean

07:01:38.280 like so i was in long-term relationship with boyfriend and you guys are celibate and waiting

07:01:42.280 until marriage yes okay that's the catch-up thank you for the raid andrew um you were gonna say

07:01:46.440 something um no i was just gonna say i don't know what i was gonna say okay um i'll just continue

07:01:50.440 with your notes though you said in college you thought it would be a good idea to try and get

07:01:53.800 a sugar daddy from seeking arrangements you probably were like 19 you got matched with some guy ubered

07:01:59.640 to a starbucks he was going to offer you 600 a week to be his friend and then you regretted it

07:02:07.320 correct okay uh and then you ghosted him correct but then he gave you free balls of tequila yes

07:02:13.240 he's an investor and like an influencer tequila brand i'm not gonna say it because i would rather

07:02:16.760 not like you know talk some on the internet but um yeah no that was interesting he was probably like

07:02:21.720 50 so going back to the conversation of like 50 with a 19 year old yeah i think that's kind of

07:02:26.040 kind of weird looking at it now obviously i know that i was an adult but um sure it didn't

07:02:31.000 yeah it was just one of those moments that was i needed money i was in college and you said as far

07:02:36.040 as unique dating stories you'd have to say your current relationship has been that you've been

07:02:39.960 on and off for the last two and a half years crazy as it sounds you knew you were going to marry him

07:02:44.600 from the day you met him despite you guys having many ups and downs he had not been in a relationship

07:02:49.560 for six years when you met him whereas you came from a world of jumping from relationship to relationship

07:02:54.760 both him and you had only been in relationships that primarily revolved around sex as the only common

07:02:59.800 nominator yet you both decided to wait for marriage so you're i think you're making a joke

07:03:06.120 born again virgins enter the chat uh you waited you guys dated for six weeks to the start then you spent

07:03:12.280 six months talking about the fact that you dated for six weeks um oh and then it was six weeks on and

07:03:17.880 off yes it was very cyclical but now you guys have a good rhythm correct not breaking up and then you

07:03:23.080 guys an engagement is in the near future yes an impending engagement impending engagement isn't

07:03:28.680 that supposed to be a surprise i mean at some level yeah but like i feel like these days you talk

07:03:33.080 about women want to you know pick the ring and whatever else we've gone through premarital counseling

07:03:37.400 so it's like we we should at least know at this point that we do want to engage was he a former salute

07:03:42.200 too um in some level yeah i think we both were raised in the church um but we definitely just kind

07:03:47.800 of like diverted ways in college which most people's paths end up happening um but then

07:03:53.640 him and i both separately decided to wait till marriage and then we met and we realized that

07:03:58.200 it was going to be a good fit sure so you said most of your friends have looked at you like you have

07:04:03.480 three heads uh when you've told him that you and him have never had sex especially coming from such

07:04:10.520 a freely sexual past but truly one of the things you were so grateful for and obviously looking forward

07:04:15.000 to the wedding night truly what got me to fall for him was finding out he was not jabbed uh yes

07:04:21.000 the audience can understand what that means but mainly that's mainly because my only other long-term

07:04:25.240 boyfriend i had or you had you had was a raging raging liberal so you dumped him over zoom during

07:04:31.640 the pandemic uh and then you finally found your conservative values uh let's see sorry i wrote a lot oh

07:04:38.760 you truly don't believe in soulmates uh it's a choice to love someone you die on the hill that you

07:04:43.800 can take any two people who have at minimum the same political values and loosely the same religious

07:04:48.200 beliefs and at least are mildly attractive and they can make it work and get to the altar as long

07:04:52.040 as they are both in it for the long run okay so no such thing as soulmates you also said that uh

07:04:58.200 i'm gonna have to skip some of this but um i have i probably have to avoid this but um

07:05:07.000 i would say it's probably going to happen soon pendulum is going to swing back to my oh okay

07:05:11.160 being the girl that used to sleep around and not have a care in the world about it to standing on

07:05:16.040 firm ground that that's what's killing relationships today is slightly comical you think your younger

07:05:21.880 self would have no idea who you are today but all that to say there has to be a point in time and you

07:05:26.440 would say it's probably going to happen soon that the pendulum is going to swing back to modesty and

07:05:30.680 conservative values because otherwise we're simply going to die out as a nation yes nice okay yes the end of

07:05:37.560 america okay um and uh i'm gonna move on to joy uh-oh joy you have a shameless marriage podcast what

07:05:46.520 do you mean by do you have a shameless marriage or is that just the name of the podcast yeah so

07:05:51.880 we haven't officially started my husband and i are going to start a podcast yeah what is so what is

07:05:56.920 shameless marriage what does that mean so it is um creating a marriage that without

07:06:04.040 to doing what you want meaning the husband and wife what you want in your marriage without outside

07:06:11.000 voices without what not going by what other people think or what other standards are it's what between

07:06:17.320 you and your spouse uh and are sorry are you guys swingers

07:06:21.720 no you know what i'm talking about though yes but you have an open marriage we well to find open

07:06:31.480 you guys see other people no not not you guys have threesomes with women we've had yes okay

07:06:40.120 do you sleep with other men no do you have threesomes with other men no but you do bring

07:06:45.720 other women into the relationship we have a couple times a couple times so is that what you're

07:06:49.960 talking about when you're talking about shameless marriage not just that no no what do you guys do

07:06:55.720 like kung fu or what do you what do you mean what are you doing i don't know what well going back to

07:06:59.960 the modesty with what she was saying earlier with how how she dresses and okay oh i see going back to

07:07:07.960 it could be anything it could be that we'll pull up your instagram in a sec but go ahead no i didn't keep

07:07:12.920 coming up so um i mean by standards some say that the woman needs to dress a certain way but that's

07:07:23.880 that's their that's for them like if they if you guys want to do that in your relationship that's

07:07:29.720 totally fine but that doesn't need to be across the board it's whatever works for a relationship so

07:07:36.520 if my husband is comfortable with me dressing a little more risque a little more revealing then

07:07:41.880 that's fine it's whatever works for your relationship i notice you're wearing a cross

07:07:46.200 are you christian yes which denomination non-denominational oh andrew would have loved

07:07:51.640 this um so um i know i mean i know i'm gonna get but you don't think there's a mod when it comes

07:07:57.560 to christianity you don't think there's some component of modesty

07:08:00.600 i mean my okay so the church puts so much emphasis on modesty

07:08:14.040 that i think that it's doing more harm because the women are not um feeling sexy they're not able

07:08:24.360 wait hold on the men are shot they're they're go ahead the women not feeling sexy is a contravention

07:08:34.280 in contravention of theology of christian faith

07:08:42.120 what do you mean well you said you're a christian and the church puts a big emphasis

07:08:47.000 on modesty and women don't feel sexy well if you cover up a woman and every time she dresses nice

07:08:55.080 and the man says don't wear that don't do that don't you know don't i mean that's

07:09:02.360 that's gonna hurt so the is the church wrong is the bible wrong

07:09:06.280 what i think the the people in the church that are preaching some of the things that they're

07:09:15.640 preaching are not correct but so that could be opinion but in like modest ways like still yeah

07:09:21.240 like i wear sundresses bring him back chat who who who in the crucible crew has andrew get him back

07:09:29.320 for five minutes um he'd love this um but so uh but is the bible wrong because i think there there

07:09:35.720 are specific bible verses and maybe somebody in the chat could give me the actual verses uh but

07:09:42.120 isn't it the case that there are bible verses that pertain to uh inducing lust so if you're dressing in

07:09:49.080 a revealing way that would be your your it's i think it's technically falls under adultery by uh inducing

07:09:56.120 somebody to lust if you induce so i mean if you dress revealing if a girl is good looking it doesn't

07:10:04.200 matter if she's fully clothed with a turtleneck or she's wearing a bikini if a guy finds a girl

07:10:09.800 good looking he's gonna think of her sexually so this whole it she needs to be covered up to her neck

07:10:15.960 so men don't think of a woman lustfully is because if a man looks at a woman and he finds her beautiful

07:10:23.880 he's gonna it doesn't matter what she's wearing he's you can tell if a woman's beautiful based on

07:10:29.080 her face or her just her body it doesn't matter if she's covered or not okay um here let's pull

07:10:36.520 up her instagram if you can pull it up there's two of them i guess all right scroll down i guess

07:10:45.640 okay see i told you i don't i don't have a conventional hold up bro you can't be you can't

07:10:52.680 be christian that's bullshit you can't be christian wait go to the i think you have another instagram

07:10:59.240 let's see the other instagram i think scroll down scroll down hold up wait stop right there hold on

07:11:06.840 scroll up a little bit damn bro wait let's go back down body i'm sorry and then i work

07:11:17.240 fucking hard for that ass yeah but you should show that to your husband not the internet scroll

07:11:21.960 down let's see the rest he's proud of me he's proud of the work i put in bro you you in bondage

07:11:28.920 uniform on the that was my on the train tracks that was my 40th birthday i did 40th birthday i'm on the

07:11:34.760 train tracks yep you're pulling the ass cheeks scroll down see i would personally prefer my like

07:11:41.480 boyfriend or husband damn bro enjoy that that's out there the internet no because they're gonna

07:11:47.400 you're gonna go out in public on a date with your husband boyfriend whatever you're all dressed modest

07:11:53.880 freaking turtleneck and then some girl you know is at the restaurant dressing good you'll think he's

07:12:00.760 gonna look at her and be like but that's an insecurity of yourself it is you're worried you're

07:12:05.560 worried that he's going to look good for my man correct in private if you're gonna i can wear it

07:12:11.880 wherever i want and why just because you can you shouldn't why why is men so insecure that they can't

07:12:18.520 go out in public with a woman that dresses nice it's it's not sexy it's not that it's because you should

07:12:24.760 be saving that for your husband not for other men to be seeing you sexy in the same sense what type of

07:12:32.040 message do you think that you're putting out to the men around you when you're advertising your body

07:12:36.840 that way like i said if a girl is good looking um it doesn't matter what she's wearing a man is

07:12:43.400 going to think wait but do you believe that the bible is the truth as a christian yes okay so if i

07:12:50.440 were to pull up but do we all follow everything in the bible no do you guys eat pork i don't eat pork

07:12:57.080 okay you're talking about you guys smoke and drink i don't smoke and drink so we all have our vices and

07:13:02.600 we all so yeah but isn't christianity like yes you're going to sin but it's a movement like what

07:13:09.560 does the religion even mean if it's just oh i'm just going to perpetually sin like it doesn't mean

07:13:19.400 anything you have to make a movement towards attempting not to sin i well that's that we have different

07:13:26.280 views i don't think of a city that's how i dress so that's fine so if i were to find verses that

07:13:33.240 indicated that christians should dress modestly would you defer to the bible in this situation or

07:13:39.240 would you just oh i'm just going to ignore that bible verse well do you does every christian follow

07:13:45.480 every bible verse no probably not right but you don't get to pick and choose because it's conviction

07:13:51.240 at the end of the day like if you're well then that's i agree it is conviction some christians

07:13:56.840 don't swear i have a potty mouth like crazy some christians drink i don't drink some christians

07:14:03.880 smoke i mean andrew's on there smoking i don't smoke so it's conviction so do you do you admit

07:14:08.680 that it's openly sinful behavior when you're portraying yourself like that can you can you

07:14:12.760 acknowledge that that is a sinful way to carry yourself because what's what you're doing is you're

07:14:18.200 you're you're creating the our brothers in christ to stray they're going to stray no matter how you're

07:14:23.480 you're not getting my point here timothy 2 9 likewise also that women should adorn themselves in

07:14:28.920 respectable apparel with modesty and self-control i mean maybe that's one i don't know doesn't the bible

07:14:37.480 have like something to say about bringing other women into a marriage also yes that would yeah wait hold

07:14:43.960 on i don't know why i'm getting so caught up hold on y'all y'all married and y'all fucking other

07:14:49.800 women that hold on i don't know why i glanced over that you're christian is he christian yeah you got a

07:14:57.560 cross here there there's the cross you're wearing a cross you're christian and you be fucking other

07:15:04.360 people what huh how do you reconcile that i i know i mean i it's whenever you're convicted and i'm just

07:15:12.920 not i'm not convicted with it with the whole monogamy thing isn't that like kind of a big component of

07:15:21.240 christianity the whole yes monogamy well and the sanctity of marriage the sanctity not bringing other

07:15:27.560 people into the marital not bringing not bringing other people into the marital bed what she said

07:15:33.560 sex is a gift that was given from god to for husband and will you make a commitment here on

07:15:38.520 the whatever podcast then that you and your husband will not fuck another woman

07:15:45.240 ever again no can i ask wait go and sin no more literally jesus christ go and sin no more right

07:15:57.720 can i just ask a question yeah i'm sorry to cut you go ahead go ahead you get to the gates of heaven

07:16:04.760 and god asks hey why'd you bring another woman into the bed what are you going to say to him at that

07:16:10.840 point oh because i want what are you going to say when i mean like i said we all do things we're not

07:16:17.240 perfect like correct but it comes with repentance it comes with conviction and i know but i haven't

07:16:22.840 i'm not convicted well then honey i would say that you should pray about that wait can we get andrew back

07:16:29.880 some christians are convicted on they don't cuss me you know some do you value sex in your marriage

07:16:37.240 as like a holy sacrament well yeah i mean it's like a connection between you and your husband

07:16:45.640 like do you get where i'm going with this yeah no like maybe you could say it like i mean it is it

07:16:50.920 is a holy sacrament what you are doing is meant between a man and a woman first and foremost let's

07:16:57.080 take the fact that you're bringing somebody else into the marital bed it is between a man and a woman

07:17:02.520 and so bringing another woman into that entirely i'm not going to sit here and tell you like okay

07:17:07.640 we're all sinners at the end of the day sin is sin at the end of the day but the whole point of the

07:17:13.080 faith is also to have conviction over your sin in order to repent it's a control over like a self

07:17:21.080 another self-control thing just like andrew saying like yes i feel hatred and jealousy all the time it's

07:17:26.840 about how i control those emotions as a christian i mean i don't know what to tell you as far as

07:17:34.040 other than it's just not something that i i feel guilty about and and neither does my husband or

07:17:40.680 else we wouldn't do it i mean can i ask a question yeah go ahead so you only bring women in and this

07:17:46.680 is completely about this but like why is it wrong that you bring another man in do you only do it for

07:17:52.840 your husband no so it's only we've only done it a couple times and he actually doesn't hasn't slept

07:18:00.120 with her it's more so for me wait you the women it's more the women is more for you yeah like but

07:18:07.720 isn't that like a double sin you know what i mean because like yeah i know because you know the whole

07:18:13.720 can't you know like can't what oh like in christian in the christian faith it's like the the lgb stuff

07:18:22.040 is not acceptable that's not like every church though into your mic biblically can you that's not

07:18:28.280 like tilt your mic down sorry sorry well i mean most main like most churches are i mean they're not

07:18:36.360 okay with it the churches got it i'm not really religious though i'm just speaking it's not so much

07:18:40.920 about the church or the pastor or the individual it's yeah yeah i have a question yeah i don't know

07:18:46.840 a lot about religion so like in your case and all of you guys yeah yeah what would god do if she was

07:18:54.200 didn't have an answer smite her down like would he be like okay do you guys believe in like heaven and

07:18:59.160 hell 100 i'm never gonna sit here and question somebody's like path towards heaven you know like

07:19:06.840 their salvation that is not my job that's not my judge job to judge anybody in that that is between

07:19:12.040 her and the lord at the end of the day however biblically speaking from scripture i would say

07:19:17.000 that without a course of repentance i would be concerned about what that conviction looks like

07:19:22.840 and if the holy spirit is truly in her that is that is what i would say i'm never going to sit here

07:19:27.480 and say that you're going to hell for that because that's not my place earlier brian when brian

07:19:31.480 was reading your notes you were saying that you went through your phase for sure and you were a

07:19:37.080 christian at that time for sure so i mean let's say you were in that phase and you were on a podcast

07:19:42.680 like this i mean you probably obviously you weren't that convicted of it at the time or else you want

07:19:48.200 to stop 100 so so and i would say at that point that looking back on it now was my did i truly have a

07:19:56.360 belief and a faith in the lord no because my conviction was not there now mind you even though

07:20:01.800 it was something that was perpetuating even though it was a sin that i was continuing to do every time

07:20:06.440 it happened i did have that conviction it was like a gut check that gut feeling even though it was not

07:20:11.160 necessarily something that i was changing the behavior on immediately that's where i can say i do

07:20:16.920 think that i did have an aspect of faith but i would be questioning my salvation at that point because

07:20:21.240 even though like works is not what gets you into heaven it's not the things that you do on this

07:20:26.840 earth it is true that faith without works is dead in the sense that i'm not going through

07:20:31.400 a cycle of repentance i am not feeling that conviction and i'm not walking in a path that's holy

07:20:36.600 yeah and to answer your question i mean yes there's the concept of heaven and hell but i think that

07:20:41.400 god has um his own personal dealings with every individual and he would probably

07:20:46.920 have some sort of discipline in your future if you were to sin actively against him over and over

07:20:51.880 and keep going back because that's not changing um your behavior right it's not like you can just go

07:20:57.160 to sleep every night and then sin again and sin again and sin again without any consequences there

07:21:01.400 are consequences to your actions and as christians i believe it's our job to to plant the seed with

07:21:06.680 other christians when we're seeing this the sinful behavior but it's not our job to change your heart

07:21:11.560 that is that is god's job so i'm not going to confuse that but i will plant the seed that i think

07:21:16.360 that you know uh your behavior um is probably not aligning with your belief you you just gotta i

07:21:23.720 mean if you got maybe you could just be not christian anymore like you could just or you could stop

07:21:29.960 fucking other women would you guys consider her christian that's not that's not my place to judge

07:21:36.040 i think that do you think a church would consider like me or her christian it's it's an individual

07:21:42.440 relationship with the creator of the universe like i think there are some stricter churches

07:21:46.600 like catholic what's your type by the way you like like like big booty latinas or

07:21:52.360 why are you looking at me that way wait her who her yeah i like tattoos and

07:22:00.040 wait have you been with her with your husband

07:22:01.960 it's gonna oh shit they're gonna do they're gonna do something oh boy oh man they're coming

07:22:09.640 for blood you look like you have downs and now after listening to the stupid bs you just said you

07:22:15.800 have the mental capacity as well you are not christian that's crazy you are a heretic oh

07:22:20.600 shit okay all right uh moving on to the next thing though just because we can't linger too long

07:22:24.840 you said an issue you have with red pill is they are giving men dating hookup advice they're not

07:22:29.960 teaching men or setting them up to have long-term healthy happy marriage however these young men

07:22:34.680 who follow the red pill movement and are taking their advice i think they're getting advice to end

07:22:38.200 up in marriage but they're just getting hookup culture advice i feel it's a disservice to young

07:22:41.720 men do you want to elaborate or add anything on that yeah i mean the hookup culture is they're

07:22:46.680 they're telling men to sleep around and to get experience date more than like have multiple girls

07:22:53.320 and they're telling them not to um like we kind of touched on this earlier with um like not have

07:23:01.960 things in common and not um i mean for a for a healthy happy long-term marriage to work you have to have

07:23:10.280 something in common you have to have be able to be friends as well and they i mean the red pill

07:23:18.600 kind of advises against that really don't don't don't be emotionally available for your woman

07:23:28.360 and okay so all right um i don't really consider myself like red pill so i'm not really gonna yeah

07:23:37.400 i mean that's such a broad statement right now uh red pill in the sense of like the red pill dating guru

07:23:42.440 types i don't really consider myself i mean there's like the more generic red pill where it's like the

07:23:46.840 truth or whatever i guess i would be red pilled in that uh that sense but you said that you would

07:23:53.640 uh the red pill tradcon movement teaching men to not allow or encourage their girlfriend wife to level

07:23:58.440 up and become the best version of themselves dimming their light by controlling what they wear how sexy

07:24:03.720 they dress where they go being on social media fitness etc yeah i mean that kind of we talked about

07:24:08.600 it yeah yeah i mean like we kind of already touched on that really okay did you want to give like a quick

07:24:14.760 take on it or well i mean we i mean we pretty much touched on it i mean oh okay uh i mean what what's

07:24:26.760 actually yeah we already talked about the whole like dressing revealing thing or whatever yeah uh so i

07:24:31.960 won't linger there you said you would say modern dating has become a complete show on the one end of

07:24:36.360 the spectrum you have red pill people and the other end women wanting princess treatment both sides have

07:24:41.480 completely missed the boat on what it takes to be in a real long-term happy relationship both sides

07:24:45.800 are only looking out for their own best interests both sides have created all these unrealistic and

07:24:49.880 honestly mostly not even important rules which they call standards it has created entitlement from both

07:24:55.000 sides neither the men or the women want to take accountability for anything they say do and it

07:24:59.640 has made them very bitter toward the opposite sex yeah i mean i don't like the prize argument i think i feel

07:25:07.000 like that's a pretty new thing the prize who's the prize and i think the man and the woman are both equally

07:25:18.040 important you just have different roles in a relationship but neither one is more important than the other

07:25:25.320 yeah you say there's no who's the prize who's the table what do you bring to the table

07:25:29.240 both parties play a separate but equally important role in a happy healthy relationship

07:25:33.320 to think one person is the prize or brings more to the table than the other is only going to create

07:25:37.240 resentment and bitterness toward the other and until modern dating let let's go of some of these

07:25:42.280 unrealistic rules marriages are going to be on the decline and divorces will continue to be on the rise

07:25:47.640 i mean i'm gonna just throw out a hot take i think men bring more to the table

07:25:52.680 i mean i think that you both have your you know what i mean both have equally important roles they're

07:26:02.360 just really how are they equally important like what's what's the woman well she can extend your

07:26:07.800 bloodline like that's that's a huge thing that i mean you need a woman to have here yeah but like i

07:26:13.480 guess the point of view i'm looking at it as is most people don't marry the first second or third person

07:26:20.120 that they've ever dated most people have dated dozens if not hundreds of people by the time

07:26:26.840 and when i say dating it could be just one day right by the time they finally settle down and it's

07:26:33.640 like well all the like the guy not in all cases but the guy is bringing all of those things up front

07:26:42.600 but like as a woman okay you are gonna have kids but you don't have kids with all of the men that you

07:26:50.920 date so like they don't the men that you dated they didn't receive this value or benefit that you claim

07:26:58.600 women are bringing to relationships the only man who's gonna receive said benefit is the man who has

07:27:05.240 kids with you so it's like y'all and y'all be you'll date a guy and you want them to pay for dates but

07:27:14.760 you have no one you don't want to have his kids right you're like shit i don't even know if i want

07:27:18.360 this guy for for marriage or kids or whatever so it's like why there's this expectation that men

07:27:24.520 bring protection provision we kind of already talked about it but i think with uh the girl who's

07:27:32.120 up from the table in the blue uh we already kind of talked about it but it's like i don't think it's

07:27:36.680 a good rebuttal to the question like okay men bring more to the table okay well women we have your

07:27:42.520 children if you had a child with every single person you dated i would agree but you don't have kids

07:27:49.960 with every single man that you've dated so you got the value from him but he didn't you're you're

07:27:56.200 the ones who are who were making the affirmative uh claim that the value women bring is the fact

07:28:02.280 that we will we can have your kids but we don't reap the benefit like we don't we could be dating a

07:28:11.160 girl and never have kids with her so what are women bringing to the table outside of

07:28:18.280 the kid component i guess like oh i agree with everything that you just said and it wasn't until i

07:28:24.360 started watching your podcast where i had that perspective change thank you um there was even

07:28:29.400 like it's it's embarrassing but for years i've been mad at my husband for not getting me a push present

07:28:34.920 and i don't know what episode i was watching or what clip i saw um that made me kind of change my

07:28:40.600 perspective on that but um you you are enlightening other people and i do have a lot of respect for that

07:28:47.080 in terms of women being the prize i don't think that we are the prize in any in any way i think that

07:28:53.000 men do have to put a lot more effort into what they bring up front however um we all have you know

07:28:59.800 biological advantages you guys have the ability to earn more because you guys are built to provide um

07:29:06.840 whereas women we have more options available to us and that's just that's just the way that it is

07:29:14.280 right so if a girl is deciding to spend her time with you she like like um you pointed out there's

07:29:21.480 competition there that exists for you that doesn't exist for for women right um so i do think that

07:29:28.200 is one thing that they bring up front is the fact that they're choosing to spend their time with you

07:29:34.200 when they probably have dozens of other options and that's kind of why i would expect a guy to pay

07:29:40.520 for me actually on the first date if i was to start dating again which i never will by the way we're

07:29:45.000 gonna do a roast session here starting soon guys twenty dollar tts for the roast session great yeah

07:29:51.960 actually i feel like i gotta boost it ah fuck it i already said it's okay it's gonna be twenty

07:29:55.720 dollar tts for a session we're gonna hold off just for a momentary moment to get to it um i guess to

07:30:01.400 respond to you so you're basically your position is uh women have a lot more options so well in terms of

07:30:08.920 what we're bringing like it we're but so you're just bringing you like you're not because i think

07:30:16.200 okay the guy has to probably make the first move he has to take initiative he's got to ask for the

07:30:21.160 number he's got to plan the date he's got to deal with you when you're flaking and reschedule the date

07:30:26.200 he's got to pay for the date he's got to plan the date he's got to move things forward physically he's

07:30:29.960 got to go for the first kiss he's got to move things forward physically from there moving things

07:30:33.880 towards sex so it's like men have to do all these steps and each of those individual steps

07:30:38.280 and there's a bunch of other steps there's a point of potential rejection and each of them

07:30:42.680 maybe there isn't a rejection maybe there is a rejection and so men carry the burden of initiative

07:30:48.360 when it comes to dating and so i i don't know if it really computes for me at least in so far as

07:30:56.280 like men are putting in all this initial effort typically when it comes to dating i don't think

07:31:02.120 that's every situation though i didn't say that but generally speaking i mean but if you don't do

07:31:07.400 it someone else will is my point so okay it is an unfair thing right like i'm talking about women

07:31:13.640 having their advantages and men having their advantages it is an advantage that women have

07:31:17.800 that they have more of options available to them that's all that's all i was meant okay but i again like

07:31:24.680 i i just don't know if that's uh i think it's just because men are the leaders it's like i look at

07:31:29.880 it like men are the pilots and the women are the co-pilots so he leads with direction um he leads

07:31:37.400 the relationship in the direction he wants it to go um you know he does the pursuing um it doesn't

07:31:43.960 mean she's but i make it a home kind of thing yeah like definitely like once you're in a relationship

07:31:48.840 like women do so much for a guy and i think just a lot of the men just don't like they've completely

07:31:55.640 forgotten the value of a woman and what they contribute to a relationship and if you don't

07:31:59.560 know what they contribute and you don't know what their value is then why are you even dating them

07:32:04.360 can you articulate what that actually is women support their men like men typically men when

07:32:09.480 they get married they make more money when they're when they're married okay but what is the woman doing

07:32:14.680 like what is the supporter we can give you ideas i mean all these businessmen entrepreneurs that i follow

07:32:20.280 give them ideas give them ideas well you can help promote their business and help them grow it help

07:32:27.000 okay that's women women have have guidance women offer guidance to their men i mean they can come to

07:32:33.960 them with advice they can steer them in the right direction if you're dealing with a guy who's already

07:32:38.280 set up properly he's not no offense he's not going to his girl but he could grow it more

07:32:42.840 i think my boyfriend what does a woman what does a woman bring that's all i'm at what does she bring

07:32:50.280 why just think about pussy is that it yo no long-term companionship no that's what the man brings

07:32:56.840 too though correct but so you got okay uterus why is that not enough why is it not enough for as

07:33:03.160 men because you just listed 10 a dozen different things the man has to do explain to me like i don't

07:33:09.160 think that's a lot to be in control it's not a lot why are you complaining about driving the car

07:33:13.960 she's the co-pilot guiding you to the destination she ain't the co-pilot what are you talking about

07:33:19.800 yeah the man is the leader and she's the follower so he's the pilot she's the co-pilot he's the captain

07:33:24.600 she's the co-captain she's the supporting role why is that she's a supporting role why is that not

07:33:30.600 enough you guys make the ultimate decisions but maybe you consult your wife or your girlfriend but

07:33:35.080 i'm asking her opinion and she helps you come to the the final decision but it's your word

07:33:40.440 i'm just asking you to articulate i'm asking you to articulate you're talking all a bunch about

07:33:45.240 what the guy has to do what does the girl have to do what does the woman have to do

07:33:51.320 hold on no no i want an answer before you ask this go ahead i just said she's a supporting role

07:33:56.120 she's a supporting role yeah she's emotionally there for you she comforts you if you have a long

07:34:00.680 day and you're sad you go to her i mean i don't understand why that's not enough

07:34:03.880 she's there for you emotionally like okay i'm there for her emotionally too though are you

07:34:09.000 though because most men are not most men in relationships are not emotionally available

07:34:13.160 who cries more men or women women yeah okay so men usually we're more emotionally there for you

07:34:18.120 because are you though because most men are not really comfortable with a woman's emotions so they

07:34:22.840 usually don't know what to do with that usually they shut down so i don't know like you should be

07:34:26.360 there for your wife emotionally i'm not sure that most men are

07:34:29.320 okay you're not sure that most men are i don't think so i've i barely ever meet it's interesting

07:34:36.280 to me though because here look you say men should do all these things xyz men should lead men should

07:34:42.520 be providers men should be protectors yeah that that's a i feel like a much higher burden

07:34:48.040 than whatever you're claiming you're talking about hierarchy right he's the leader he's in charge so i

07:34:52.440 think he would have more responsibilities what is the female component what does the woman have to do

07:34:57.240 because women will talk endlessly about this is what men should do this is how men should act this

07:35:02.760 is how men should treat women have you ever thought have you ever stopped and thought about

07:35:08.840 what do i need to do as the woman she's would you just not think about you just

07:35:15.080 i'm telling you what we do what do you do i'm waiting for you to actually articulate something

07:35:22.520 well it depends where you know any other woman can jump if you're in a marriage and women do

07:35:27.160 everything to take your man sexually satisfied cool the guy's doing the exact same thing and y'all

07:35:32.680 are the ones who can have multiple orgasms and have your legs twitching and shit

07:35:37.080 y'all are the ones sex is better for y'all anyways doubtful

07:35:41.080 okay i don't know oh i'm sorry that we just have a bunch of women at the table what are you talking

07:35:45.960 about i'm sorry but y'all are the ones who can come multiple times that's why these legs are

07:35:50.680 fucking twitching and it's been like a solid maybe five times you're lucky if the woman even finishes

07:35:55.560 usually the men are out in it for themselves who here is multi-orgasmic any ladies at the table here

07:36:01.640 okay boom right there bam she be coming 20 times in a row the guy's done after one it's over it's a wrap

07:36:08.040 for the dude she's still she's going she's going for an hour a hundred orgasms that seems like a

07:36:14.600 better deal for her yeah she's not gonna lie it is a good deal it's a lot harder for it is a good deal

07:36:20.360 what's your record my record of orgasms counted probably like four oh rookie numbers i'm not doing

07:36:28.040 marathons i'm just saying y'all it's crazy man that's crazy so you ask this on every every podcast

07:36:37.240 what do you men want us to bring to the table what do we want you to bring to the table that is

07:36:43.560 a good question i have a list that i'm gonna pull up here in just a moment are you gonna pull up the

07:36:47.880 video again the bow yeah the bow yeah one second john jackson donated one hundred dollars these women

07:36:55.720 show me every week they have no idea what insecurity or modesty mean this is a 40 year old married woman

07:37:02.280 making arguments like a nice lured 18 year old girl avoid attention seekers excuse me

07:37:09.400 hmm

07:37:14.040 i got the list you want to know yeah you want to know what men want i got the list yeah go ahead

07:37:18.280 tell us i'll tell you hey hey uh hold on i got something for you we have to think on the spot

07:37:26.760 oh i appreciated that i don't like that kind of talk okay uh let's see do i even want to go

07:37:36.600 okay hold on he said peace before okay peace we don't want a nagging quarreling wife patient and

07:37:43.480 agreeable proverbs 21 19 better to live in the desert than with a quarreling or nagging wife uh i mean

07:37:51.080 we want femininity we want submissiveness and we want a lack of conflict so peace we don't

07:37:56.520 want to deal with a girl who's nagging or quarreling honestly if as a woman if you're just chill and you

07:38:03.400 don't quarrel and nag and you're at like good looking you don't even have to be good looking

07:38:09.720 just don't annoy us that's it that's all you gotta be what the fuck so what is she doing though huh

07:38:15.160 so everything i listed basically like is not enough for you but what are you listing that

07:38:20.520 she's actually doing just don't be annoying so what is she doing that sitting there so like you're not

07:38:25.160 giving any actual no good characteristics of what you lack of negative things of course is a thing

07:38:32.840 so like yeah you can go into the positive like you can be pleasant partner yeah you should be positive

07:38:40.120 you should be pleasant but like a lot of men we don't want to deal with nagging and quarreling

07:38:45.400 a lot of women i'm not saying all women but a lot of women don't bring peace to their men and a lot

07:38:50.760 of dudes if you're dealing with a a guy of a certain caliber his life is difficult his life is

07:38:56.680 difficult maybe you're dealing with a guy who's running his own business whatever it is

07:39:00.840 he's already contending with the world he doesn't want to go home where his peace should be

07:39:05.720 and dealing with a quarreling nagging woman just be his peace that's it be his peace be feminine

07:39:11.160 be submissive and be attractive enough that's it you didn't really list anything like substantial

07:39:19.960 differently than what i said that's because i said we're supportive we can help you make more money

07:39:26.040 don't care about that okay so you just want her to sit there and look pretty and do nothing that's

07:39:31.160 i literally didn't say that no you need to bow and do my laundry and take care of the house

07:39:35.480 well we do all those i agree that women should do those things but like when they're married or

07:39:38.680 living with a no oh wait if you're living with a man in his home or whatever you're living together

07:39:44.840 i think the woman should be in the feminine role and i think she should be taking care of the household

07:39:48.840 cooking cleaning especially if he's providing oh so men need to do the providing and protecting

07:39:54.520 up front on the first date but a woman gets to wait until marriage

07:40:00.360 she a woman has to wait until really consider providing just because you paid for dinner i mean

07:40:04.360 i think of providing i think of like providing for a family i mean paying for dinner again it's

07:40:10.440 just chivalry i don't think that's necessarily providing relationships have to start somewhere

07:40:15.000 of course they do so that's where it's gonna but i'm not in their house on the first date doing

07:40:18.440 their laundry audition for the role of wife i'm okay i think first date we should do a laundry date

07:40:23.720 that's really i think we get to that point i don't think a woman needs to like audition for the role

07:40:28.360 of wife on the first day okay then men shouldn't have to audition for the role of husband yeah you

07:40:32.760 don't get any providing until you're married well it's not a date if you're if you're just splitting

07:40:38.120 it like friends it's not a date yes okay he's still here would this still be a day i think if

07:40:42.920 you're in your masculine that you pay for the date because you're a chivalrous and if you're in your

07:40:46.760 family i don't agree with the 50 50 thing and i'm not changing my mind if you're in your feminine

07:40:50.920 then you do the laundry you do the dishes you clean his spot i'm not in his house on the first date

07:40:55.640 though fine you can do it on the second date doesn't make sense i don't go to their house on

07:40:58.840 the second or the third date maybe i stop you're not fucking i might no you don't fuck

07:41:05.240 not that early you don't fuck not that early when do you fuck oh my god when do you fuck you don't

07:41:09.640 fuck i wait you wait i have to date somebody for over a month yeah a couple months i think maybe two

07:41:17.880 it depends you can i know it's hard to believe i know but um third date is way too

07:41:25.240 soon to be doing that i don't if i go to their house it's because i'm going to their house

07:41:29.320 because i work nearby and i'm parking my car and he's driving from there so i might go in really

07:41:34.040 quick but i am not doing cleaning their house and auditioning you should you should probably

07:41:38.680 first second or third date you know what though look i'm just saying let me try maybe try that

07:41:43.240 out because you're you know you're 40 you're 40 i'm just saying give it a shot maybe try it

07:41:49.480 no you try it and you might find yourself a husband you might find yourself a boyfriend

07:41:53.080 girl say this girl over here maybe you know wear a turtleneck and do his laundry you might you

07:41:57.880 might get a boyfriend i'm just saying i'm trying sure don't shoot the messenger i'm just trying to

07:42:01.800 help out i'm trying to give i'm gonna put you on some games son okay i'm putting you on game one of

07:42:06.040 the ladies over here said whenever she went above and beyond for a guy that he was turned off so

07:42:09.720 usually when women go and give and give and give they get turned off so i i don't believe i mean

07:42:15.880 when a woman simps you don't yeah you don't know men don't like that oh i love it they don't like that

07:42:20.760 first date laundry uh she's needy she's coming on too strong and you know i love it they don't

07:42:26.280 like it i like you you like different but well i wish more men were like that because i wish more

07:42:31.640 men were like that oh you're great see she's a keeper over there she wants to do all that

07:42:35.720 shit immediately i would say i would say that the reason you're doing that and the men are running

07:42:40.120 away is because they're afraid of commitment i think that has a lot more to say on the men than

07:42:43.480 it really does to say about you i think what you are doing is probably a good thing to show

07:42:47.960 that you want to be able to help the man where you can support him where you can but a lot of men

07:42:53.400 these days are terrified of the idea of commitment so when you're showing them that i would say so i

07:42:59.080 think women are scared of commitment everybody's afraid of do you remember when you're going around

07:43:03.080 the table and i asked okay who broke like who broke up with who of your long-term relationships

07:43:08.120 almost all the girls said i ended it with him so when you do get commitment you overwhelmingly end it

07:43:13.480 same with uh marriage and divorce 80 of divorces are initiated by women i mean

07:43:18.920 lawyer can i ask the panel a question ask your question how many of us ended it with cheating

07:43:25.000 cheating and abuse physical verbal because you guys cheated and abused your boyfriend no they

07:43:31.800 wow he did you oh sorry i got he's in prison i got my wires crossed that's i left his house because

07:43:36.920 he's in prison hold on i'm gonna let some roast comforts i'm gonna let some roast people donated 19

07:43:41.480 dollars and 99 cents it's always the women that are ugly and quarrelsome that have the problem

07:43:48.120 with age gap relationships and calls adult women kids just to shame opposite of young beautiful and

07:43:55.000 dutiful jelly at 40. thank you man sons of liberty donated 19 and 99 cents ice can be reached at 866 dhs

07:44:06.600 to ice guantanamo bound amazing how liberals particularly white women tolerate racism from minorities

07:44:14.920 jessix is racist toast donated 20 dollars bad argument about women keeping bloodline going due to still

07:44:24.200 needing men's genetic material to do that anyways thank you toast appreciate it we got another one

07:44:31.000 coming in toast donated 20 dollars anybody else noticed blue shirt said she had a problem with

07:44:39.080 20 year age gap and it's sicky but was in 12 year age gap no problem but brian proposes a 10 year age

07:44:46.120 gap in hypothetical and that's they weren't listening i didn't say there was a problem with 10 year age

07:44:50.520 gap so donated 20 dollars everyone is allowed to act stupid once in a while but a lot of you really

07:44:57.560 abusing the privilege i'd smack you all damn once again i said under 20 only

07:45:03.320 you're going to come with a warning label when dating only when it's under 24 and that's your problem

07:45:08.360 10 years donated 20 dollars this is a dumbass point brian men provide resources and women provide and look

07:45:15.320 after kids slash sexual needs at a very fundamental level there is nothing else i'm not sure what

07:45:21.800 more you want them to say based thor donated 20 dollars what do these women on the panel guest have in

07:45:30.120 common with an airplane they all got a cockpit except chair six seven someone do the good old aid undy check

07:45:37.080 and whatever it identifies tell ice to deport it damn son okay i got some more coming through uh hold

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07:45:58.280 whoo bro chair it looks like some substances ran through her already what the fuck y'all crazy big sass

07:46:05.640 energy donated 20 dollars multi-millionaire and 41. i'm currently dating a bombshell 32 year old

07:46:14.440 the only thing i want her to bring is peace and happiness she's a ray of sunshine she can provide

07:46:20.920 nothing else i don't have reap what you sow donated 20 dollars words of wisdom provided

07:46:28.280 by tom hardy being alone for a while is dangerous it's addicting once you see how peaceful it is

07:46:35.320 you don't want to deal with people anymore amen fucks michael jones donated 20 dollars

07:46:41.800 chair to change your ways first and then you will get a good man chair 10 you're good chair 12 you're

07:46:49.480 close to becoming a pick me girl be careful thank you radness donated 22 22 cents chair one looking

07:46:59.000 like with a rider there you go there you go thank you thank you radness sons of liberty donated 19

07:47:17.640 dollars and 99 cents i voted for trump three times and hope to vote for him a fourth time uh-oh

07:47:24.680 trump 2028 uh-oh america first thank you sons of liberty appreciate it blasian ninja donated

07:47:32.040 19 and 99 cents men love being simply on by the one they want to be with same as women so if they left

07:47:40.680 you when you were simply it's because they didn't like you not because you were a simp brian was giving

07:47:47.160 game i'm giving game i look if you're if you're dealing with the right guy who's interested in you

07:47:54.280 you giving all this effort it's going to make him like you more like but if you're dealing with a guy

07:48:00.280 that just wants you for sex or he's just not that into you it doesn't matter how much you do it's just

07:48:07.560 and the same with women if the girl's just she's not that into you but you're doing doing all this

07:48:12.200 shit it doesn't matter like it just doesn't matter and then but a lot of women will get this confused

07:48:17.400 and think okay i gotta play hard to get to get the guy and the reality is like those guys would have

07:48:22.520 behaved the same way regardless whether you were all over him or you were kind of more when i say all

07:48:28.200 over i'm just like you're putting in effort right when it comes to playing hard to get if you play hard

07:48:34.120 to get you quickly become hard to want most men don't want to deal with that like they don't want

07:48:38.680 to deal with a girl that's playing games playing hard to get if you like the guy and he likes you

07:48:44.200 it should be simple i don't know why relationships are so complicated i like you you like me let's be

07:48:50.360 together let's keep it simple let's make it easy all these games all the situation ship it's crazy what's

07:48:55.640 up um i also think that if you're speaking to the mic sorry i also think that on both sides sometimes

07:49:02.120 when you're a giver in the relationship like you like you know buying gifts taking your partner on

07:49:07.000 dates whatever i think sometimes when you give give give your partner can become comfortable

07:49:12.600 with that and kind of like pull back on either meeting you there or appreciating it okay uh we're

07:49:20.120 gonna get a little bit more into the notes let the rest of the chats come through let me just

07:49:23.960 blast through really quick for you you think men should take the bullet for the woman

07:49:27.720 yes on the first date i mean this is extremely rare so i mean but should they if they have to

07:49:38.200 men should take the bullet i don't think the woman should take the bullet for a man

07:49:42.280 okay should women do and do you think women should be submissive yes okay so let's say you've been

07:49:48.520 dating a guy for i don't know it's date number five and he invites you over you're gonna do his laundry

07:49:55.080 for him date five uh five no are you gonna have have when would you have sex with him no i don't

07:50:03.000 it depends on how i feel and how it's going and if we're getting near commitment the last guy you

07:50:08.440 dealt with that you dated or whatever how what was the date number that you guys hooked up i don't

07:50:13.960 know it was a month in it was a month a month yeah i waited a month a month yeah okay so how many

07:50:21.560 dates is that i don't remember would you have done his laundry a month then uh well i didn't but but

07:50:29.560 would you have maybe if i was like staying over there a lot i would do it like if he's at work

07:50:34.600 would you clean his bathroom um yeah because i was kind of like like sometimes i sleep over so if

07:50:40.840 i was excessively sleeping over and stuff i would definitely like toilet sometimes i would clean

07:50:45.480 not just the sink yeah no yeah yeah like scrub like actually sometimes i was still there when

07:50:50.120 he was at work and i would like clean up clean up the kitchen and counter clean no i just tidy it up

07:50:56.440 for him deep clean not not just i would tidy it up oh there's a little stain on the no you gotta do

07:51:00.680 the floors you gotta you know what i mean i think if i lived with him i would do that i just to me it's

07:51:06.920 kind of crazy you know like you'll let a man inside you but you won't like cook him make him a

07:51:14.600 sandwich or cook him dinner or clean or do his laundry like women will let a dude hit on the

07:51:20.520 first night let the dude blast on her face i won't let them hit big old blast on the face i don't move

07:51:26.040 that quickly brian with the cleaning and like moving in and stuff i don't move all the things you're

07:51:30.520 saying i don't move that quickly i just wouldn't do any of that what's crazy to me is any of that

07:51:34.760 women you'll let a man come inside you i agree on your face a lot of women do that but you're not

07:51:39.320 gonna be submissive like you won't do like oh i'm not gonna i won't cook for a man because that's

07:51:47.720 misogynistic that's not my stance blast in my face that's crazy son that's some people's stance is not

07:51:53.960 mine so you're talking to the wrong person that's not my stance at all come on they give bj's in new

07:51:59.640 jersey bro what they give bj's in new jersey son they do bj's blowies okay i've never heard of that

07:52:07.720 essing the d all right all right here i'm gonna let these chats come through them a lot of assumptions

07:52:14.120 being made these nuts donated twenty dollars share six for sure smash dudes on first date wrong stop

07:52:20.920 the damn cap chair it looks like jersey short pop and finding nemo you're making generalizations

07:52:27.480 have the cards you're gambling with world war three they just can't believe it oh

07:52:32.600 shit these nuts donated twenty dollars thank you man fun show tonight it was interesting would love

07:52:38.200 for you to actually bring up the original chivalric code sometime i don't think women understand that

07:52:44.520 most of it was duty to god and had rules for ladies as well chair underscore three underscore

07:52:51.640 simp donated twenty dollars sure three so that's for you abigail beautiful oh i love your tattoos oh

07:52:57.480 shit your hair looks so good oh damn your eyes are deep and full of love deep perfect let's watch the

07:53:04.200 sunset on my boat tyler runja 99 donated twenty dollars seat number three looks like a good girl but she's

07:53:13.400 sitting in between two kitten stars that's sad damn that wait what that's sitting in between two

07:53:21.560 kitten stars big sass energy donated twenty dollars 41 years battling slaying dragons building wealth and

07:53:29.720 status i would never settle with a woman that i had to come home to and continue the battle with

07:53:35.160 that's weird that came in that's weird guys twenty dollar tts i'm gonna do actually there's one

07:53:54.280 other coming through frantic donated twenty dollars her argument was the man protects because he is built to

07:54:00.840 do so what if that bullet was one hundred percent unalive in the person it touches should the man

07:54:07.080 take it instead of the woman are women lives worth more why do you think the woman should take it instead

07:54:12.760 of the man is the man's life worth more

07:54:17.480 but he's asking you because you say yes the man should take the because i believe men are men are the

07:54:23.480 protectors and the providers that's just in man's inherent trait and that's how god intended them to

07:54:29.000 be that's why that's why god intended women to remain chaste and be virgins until marriage completely

07:54:38.680 agree with you guys have rejected the social contract you take the bullet you take the bullet you pay for the

07:54:45.560 the first date okay good talk good talk guys that's good yes well devon jackson donated twenty dollars

07:54:59.400 joyful zimps you soft fucks are why women have the hubris they have nowadays simps simps are ruining

07:55:05.800 simps are ruining everything okay nicole who's nicole i'm nicole you're nicole okay sorry but too many

07:55:11.720 people here uh nicole yes once you went on a date with a guy he seared your hand with a butter knife

07:55:17.080 and he was burning it on top of a candle what did he also you still have the scar show us the scar

07:55:23.080 oh wait to the camera to the camera up here damn i don't know if they can see it but it's just like

07:55:29.320 a little triangle right there oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's fine oh you pretty much described

07:55:35.800 the story in a nutshell i was uh i was working out at a gym and the guy worked at the gym

07:55:41.480 and he asked to take me out for dinner and we went out for dinner and it was a nice restaurant

07:55:46.280 and everything was going pretty well he was giving me the mysterious vibe that some women seek but i

07:55:51.880 didn't realize that he had a butter knife that he was laying on top of a candle and out of nowhere

07:55:57.720 he like reached to grab my hand i thought it was kind of cute and he grabbed my hand he pinned down my

07:56:02.520 wrist and he just seared my hand and for weeks i had this flap of skin that was just

07:56:07.400 i would that's crazy for sure no i know jeffrey dommer activity i never talked to him again

07:56:16.440 that's like wild bdsm behavior that's not chill that's not chill i know you should have seared

07:56:23.400 him with a fork been like i was a little caught off guard i didn't know what to think of it because

07:56:27.960 i'd only ever been in did you tell him like let go wait i have a question sure if you guys had to be

07:56:33.880 seared by a utensil which one like fork spoon or knife i will allow spork spork you can also get

07:56:43.880 a spork searing okay fork if i get a can i sear can i get a spork and sear your other hand no okay

07:56:52.520 never mind uh you said why does the host and his male guest put such an emphasis on high body counts

07:56:58.040 and pasts do you want to elaborate on that well so so some of the some of the the feedback that i

07:57:06.040 got from my family and friends so why would you want to go on that show they're so awful to women and

07:57:10.520 all they care about is body count rating your looks and all of the things that we touched upon so true

07:57:15.960 right um i i just i think i covered it earlier when i talked about my one of my fundamental christian

07:57:24.200 beliefs is that you can become new again um in seeking a relationship with jesus and i just

07:57:30.440 find that too many women i can't speak for all the women but it seems as though a lot of women leave

07:57:35.960 this show feeling worthless and i would just like to only some of them put an emphasis that you are not

07:57:41.720 worthless no matter what your past is um that you can absolutely like someone will value you and love

07:57:47.800 you well so i mean like we're just speaking about reality you can't shoot the messenger so former

07:57:53.560 only fans girls can be saved by christ men do not need to then disregard their baggage and marry them

07:58:02.040 these are completely compatible beliefs no i disagree no i i do agree because like and i've heard this

07:58:09.560 analogy before in the on the show where you've asked women would you um date a guy who has beaten

07:58:16.360 several of his ex-girlfriends and that answer is obviously no i would not ever date someone who has

07:58:23.080 the past uh of domestic violence and i do find it on the same caliber as what we're talking about

07:58:28.920 when it comes to body count because there is a lot of baggage and trauma that comes with body count

07:58:34.040 sure well speaking of body count who here thinks show of hands that men are insecure if they care

07:58:40.520 about a woman's body count show of hands depends depends depends there it depends like

07:58:47.560 like he's like she has 10 bodies i can't do it that's ridiculous that's just ridiculous that's an

07:58:55.400 outrageous number outrageous preposterous how dare he um okay show of hands does anybody

07:59:04.360 okay going around the table what is your body count starting with you probably like i'd say by now

07:59:13.400 i'd estimate like 100 to 110 100 yeah around there sure okay 11 11 okay 25 to 30 25 to 30 sure

07:59:31.240 8 8 okay that's private whoa hey hold on all these lovely women before you answered the question

07:59:39.960 that's unfair for you not answering it how uh wow wait didn't you wait did i miss that thing in

07:59:46.440 your notes you said you've been celibate wait did i go over your notes i have done the celibacy thing

07:59:51.240 twice for two years at a time are you thinking about me i'm the one who's been celibate for

07:59:56.920 two separate times okay i have done it

08:00:00.840 do you want to give us a range how about that like range no is it over 100 no okay what about

08:00:11.560 you body count i'm not saying that's like it's private screw your mic to the edge of the table

08:00:16.680 it's private right do you want to do range no two what about the women you

08:00:24.360 fucked with your husband do you or do you not count them okay all right what about you three

08:00:30.760 yeah that information is for me and my husband range do you want to do range no but i will say

08:00:35.080 i can count them on my hands hands that's right all right next i would also say that that's private

08:00:42.120 but it is under as many fingers as i have what about you i'm also gonna wait hold on but you

08:00:48.120 you said you were a former sloot okay do you want to do a range range yes uh it's 20 to 25 okay

08:00:56.840 that's fair what about you um i'm gonna keep that private but i have never had a one night stand so

08:01:02.920 it's not very high you could still have a high body count no and never had a one night stand no

08:01:10.920 like i'm like you fucked twice and then you're you did i'm very i've never had a one night stand i've

08:01:16.360 never had a one night stand i don't have sex with somebody until i'm in a relationship with

08:01:20.760 them so that's touching i love that for you how many relationships have you been in

08:01:27.960 uh that's nobody's oh wow i see you were trying to do the you're trying to do the yeah the math

08:01:36.360 because if she's been in this many i didn't lose my virginity until i was like 18 so it's not

08:01:41.480 like in most of my relationships are pretty long so it's not a high number sure uh where were we

08:01:48.200 with the notes here you know what i'm gonna let the chats come in while i get caught up on exactly

08:01:51.560 where the notes are we have some chats coming in we have who is it jtk jtk donated 20 dollars

08:02:00.280 regarding one's gripe about guys lying about their unit size i've only ever lied about it being small

08:02:07.880 and i never bring it up unless she does and he'll say i may not bottom out but i'll scrape the sides

08:02:14.680 yeah i don't even get like why it's not you can't lie about it i mean you can but i don't know if it

08:02:21.800 would induce a woman to want to sleep with you but if she does sleep with you and it's smaller than what

08:02:26.840 you said it is she's gonna be disappointed like you gotta my my theory on this like you gotta downplay

08:02:35.320 and then when you come in a little bit below average so you have a strategy you gotta be like

08:02:42.920 i'm terrible in bed and then when you like just only slightly i see what you do they're gonna be

08:02:48.440 like oh okay my my expectations were managed goal tick right right am i you girls know what i'm talking

08:02:54.600 about like you gotta tell the girl you gotta tell the girl it's gonna be like 30 seconds but when it

08:03:00.040 lasts two minutes she's gonna be 31 and you obviously she's gonna be so happy she's gonna be

08:03:07.160 she's gonna be on cloud nine oh my god it was the best two minutes of my life

08:03:11.480 right you guys know what i'm talking about okay like and you gotta say like i have a micro penis

08:03:15.720 and then when it's like below average then she's like oh okay you don't have a micro penis

08:03:21.720 i am now moderately unremarkably satisfied are you talking to all the men out there like this is

08:03:29.880 their strategy gotta do okay yes but i think you gotta say like you're average in bed or like you're

08:03:37.000 bad in bed and then you come in like right like she's not disappointed but she was like that that's

08:03:44.200 the sweet spot for fucking chicks okay like that's where okay never mind good talk

08:03:52.440 young brian donated twenty dollars damn i got fat

08:03:58.920 it's true i did thick chubby i'm not i'm chubby okay plump a little plump

08:04:05.400 you know it's well calm down get your mind out the gutters the racist latina has room temperature

08:04:12.680 like she talked about white men and trump deporting families the deporter in chief that holds the

08:04:19.400 record and who built the cages was half black shit barack obama devon jackson donated twenty dollars

08:04:26.280 oh he said fucks i said puppy simps oh thank you devon while we're waiting on devons we have a super

08:04:32.520 chat from jason cassell chair four we want a sandwich and for you to keep your moment your mouth

08:04:37.320 shut from chair four ninja donated 19.99 cents oh thank you you're not a sloat if you marry him

08:04:45.640 wife and i met online talked on phone not texting for a month straight had sex first time we met and

08:04:54.280 she did wi-fi duties asap together 14 years married 10 sons of liberty donated 19.99 cents canada can go

08:05:06.600 fuck itself i keep them on the canadian flag britain said it is open to placing troops on the ground

08:05:13.720 possible world war three actions time to draft liberal women earn that vote yes draft them big sas

08:05:21.800 energy donated twenty dollars you're always accountable for you passed regardless of any

08:05:27.640 repentance a high body count does not go away nor does the accountability for a dot a high body count

08:05:34.520 is a big red flag market value decreased boom multiplied by three and that's the real number

08:05:40.520 for the body counts for the body counts okay uh we did natalie we did oh joy let me see i think we got

08:05:47.480 through all your yeah yes queen wait their girlfriend uh yes we're nicole yes nicole wait

08:05:59.000 oh hold on oh yeah okay the body count thing you said their levels of hypocrisy when speaking on how

08:06:03.720 worthless women become when they have passed but don't ever focus on how little value men bring who

08:06:08.680 are also addicted to porn who have had dozens or hundreds of bodies oh i don't think anybody says

08:06:13.000 women are worthless i've never said that maybe andrew did just kidding he probably didn't know i

08:06:18.840 mean maybe disposable or dismissed it would be a better way wait she wants a guy to take the bullet

08:06:24.760 for her yeah i disagree with that and you want a man to die for you hey no bruno mar said he jumped

08:06:30.280 into it in front of a train you know yeah right that's all the grenade i think you're talking about

08:06:36.440 no doesn't he say i think i'll jump in he says he'll catch a grenade and jump in front of a train

08:06:41.800 isn't the song called grenade yeah yeah but he does i see okay he's doing it no

08:06:49.800 well i mean really quickly on that i think men and women value different things i think women don't

08:06:53.560 really care all that much about body count or prom uh past promiscuity in men i think men

08:06:59.160 care a lot a lot more typically it seems like women care about a man's future men care about a woman's

08:07:04.760 past that's just men and women we value different things and but i i don't object like if a woman care

08:07:11.160 doesn't want to date a guy who has a high body count or is promiscuous that's totally fine like

08:07:16.280 i don't have a double standard there like oh women you have to date high body count men like

08:07:20.600 or that's no women can have the exact same standard that men have but i think it happens to be the case

08:07:26.120 that women there are more women who care less about body count uh than the reverse do you think that if

08:07:33.240 men had access to sex the way that women have access to sex that men's body counts would be

08:07:39.080 significantly higher uh yeah sure absolutely okay because my my stance is is like i don't think that

08:07:47.640 there's a big difference between a woman who uh has slept with a hundred men versus a guy who's jacked

08:07:53.640 off to thousands or tens of thousands of women behind a screen i think it's just as uh awful

08:08:02.360 and just as damaging it just as damaging because i that that man is not going to make a good husband

08:08:07.000 to you i think they're both damaging like if a man is has porn addiction i don't think i mean me

08:08:12.440 personally like if i'm in a relationship with a girl uh i and we're having sex regularly i'm not

08:08:19.160 watching porn i'm not masturbating i'm saving my i'm saving that for her um and i don't think

08:08:25.400 men should be like liking other chicks instagram photos i don't think they should be following ig

08:08:30.040 models on instagram i don't follow anybody on instagram except my own accounts um but uh i don't

08:08:37.240 know they're different um like you can't get an std from like masturbating the porn i feel like you can

08:08:45.000 get std on your brain though yeah like it's just poisonous it's just because those thoughts are

08:08:51.160 there right you and and i think it's damaging but i don't know if it's and it's creating unrealistic

08:08:56.920 standards in your future relationships so uh sure i guess oh the science shows just the terrible

08:09:06.680 impact that it has on the brain it's horrible for you not to mention just like when you look at an

08:09:11.960 addiction obviously i know that some people might not necessarily consider it an addiction

08:09:16.760 but when you watch pornography it gives off the same dopamine in the brain as a line of cocaine and

08:09:23.240 so if you're doing that time and time and time and time again obviously you would typically build an

08:09:29.240 addiction to cocaine in that sense you would be doing something similar with pornography i think it's

08:09:33.800 something really easy for people to kind of write off as not an addiction because it has become so

08:09:38.360 normalized um but when you look at the science behind it it is it's tragic what it's doing to

08:09:45.720 people and it's not even a man's issue it's a people issue um and i just kind of feel for anybody

08:09:51.720 who has been trapped in that cycle final notes here for the final person and then we're going to get

08:09:57.160 this wrapped soon courtney you said your entire dating experience has felt far from positive which is

08:10:03.080 why you've chosen to remain celibate for almost two years i'm proud of you congrats congrats thanks

08:10:12.200 guys but of the gender swaps was there any dude who you'd like hit tonight like any girl here like

08:10:21.000 the gender swaps wait no okay never mind no um before that you were nearly in a two-year relationship

08:10:28.360 with someone you believe was the one for the first time you experienced what you thought was that

08:10:31.880 fairytale love you've seen the movies he was amazing but you later discovered after the

08:10:37.720 relationship ended he had been secretly struggling with alcohol addiction throughout your time together

08:10:42.440 you were miss you were mistreated and treated well uh both of those creating a confusing emotional

08:10:49.560 roller coaster wasn't until after the breakup he admitted his alcohol addiction and that's when

08:10:54.840 everything clicked the angry cool cruel moments were a result of the addiction while the kind and loving

08:11:00.520 side the the person you always wish you could have seen more of was the real him yeah good times uh

08:11:07.400 you said you love being spoiled i do but it's not about expensive gifts for you what truly makes you

08:11:12.680 happy is when a guy surprises you with something he remembers like picking up in an aisle while you're

08:11:17.560 browsing together or when he plans a sweet uh when he wait hold on what the uh when he plans what sound

08:11:25.720 are we going with don't worry about it uh he plans he plans a sweet spontaneous date like bowling or

08:11:31.000 hitting up an arcade without you having to ask small gestures like flowers or handwritten notes

08:11:37.480 mean so much to you you're all about sentimental thoughtful gestures because that's your love

08:11:41.720 language you're also giver of gifts and experiences not just in romantic relationships

08:11:45.880 so when a partner or someone i'm interested in and acknowledges that side of me it feels really

08:11:50.520 special and appreciated i don't know man that sounds like a lot of work i gotta remember

08:11:56.920 something you picked up in an aisle like three months ago and i gotta go back and like buy the

08:12:01.080 shit hey my ex did it oh that's cute i mean like if i'm walking down an aisle in target and you like

08:12:07.480 if i've done this for people right like and your partner picks up something and they look at it and

08:12:12.200 you know that they want to buy it and they don't and they put it down like i've gone back and bought it

08:12:17.160 for my partner i just think it's like cute little gestures it doesn't have to be yeah it doesn't

08:12:22.200 have to be expensive i'm like yeah i'm not that's not my people could do that that's great enough

08:12:27.480 i love that i love that sherry 6969 donated 69 dollars blondie we remember your eggplant conversation

08:12:37.400 can you stop lying her hair is we all know you like big eggplant conversations in your dms

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08:12:50.520 or horde doesn't matter 80 willing to faction swap what i am a level 80 evoker that's not even that's

08:12:57.720 not even like a thing in world of warcraft what evoker that's not a that's not a class radmas donated

08:13:04.040 19 dollars and 99 cents it's not the motion of the ocean nor the size of the ship it's whether or not

08:13:11.560 the captain stays in port long enough for all passengers to get off cheers person i dig the

08:13:17.400 level-headed debates hero seven was it level-headed spicy win 89 donated 20 dollars according to brian

08:13:25.320 this will work 100 so chair four i'm below average and can last a quarter second also i have a 5.65

08:13:33.480 katie in our sixth siege wanna kick it i don't have time she she's going to boston yeah she's going to

08:13:41.160 boston you know what i think this is the best pickup line and i want the ladies to weigh in so you step

08:13:49.240 to a girl you got to be confident lock the eye contact eye contact very important you look at her

08:13:54.200 deep in her deep in her eyes and you step you introduce yourself hi i'm brian and you this is what

08:14:00.680 you say next have you ever been with a premature ejaculator it gets every time bro they love that

08:14:07.720 shit she knows it's pretty funny that is pretty funny no it's who said anything about being funny

08:14:15.240 it's funny hold on you thought i was joking you thought you thought i was kidding around

08:14:22.760 you thought that's a joke i like and appreciate honesty it i'm telling you boys you can't lead like

08:14:29.800 oh i got a big dick girl you want some dick no you gotta say like some some semi-embarrassing

08:14:34.920 shit premature ejaculator what's up how you doing right it would work right i mean i'd probably laugh

08:14:42.520 and then just be like you good like okay good talk um i'm just i'm giving you guys game

08:14:49.240 i'm giving you game the raskill donated 19 and 99 cents the old blue whale wants to be a co-pilot

08:14:57.720 sitting and yes in the business class while the man is being the pilot flight attendant

08:15:02.840 maintenance tech and whatnot get the hell out of the delula to be wifed up

08:15:07.800 where's th and you like donated twenty dollars what is better a key that opens any lock or a lock

08:15:16.040 that is opened by any key that's why men are studs and women are 304s sigma male march

08:15:24.840 boy vey putting women down and calling them hoes does not make big sass energy donated twenty

08:15:30.120 andrew tate roasted receptionist how do you write woman so well jack nicholson i think of a man and i

08:15:37.560 take away reason and accountability from the movie as good as it gets wow that's crazy

08:15:46.840 reap what you so donated twenty dollars this is a good point i disagree brian women do care about body

08:15:53.080 counts the older a man is and remains a virgin they find less attractive it gives off why does no

08:15:59.880 one want him women desire men that other women want true that's interesting i disagree with that

08:16:07.560 what do you mean you had somebody on your podcast that was like 27 and he was a virgin

08:16:13.240 and we've had two we've had two studly men on the show but they're like christian and they're waiting

08:16:19.240 until marriage and i think it was really attractive though yeah but i think like the secular guy who's

08:16:26.200 remaining a virgin yeah i don't know i i agree with you that there can be like chads who are virgins

08:16:35.880 but yeah i don't know um we have this one selena gome gormez

08:16:40.600 three hundred and fours don't have a problem finding a man who wants them they just can't

08:16:48.280 find the man they want who also wants them our actions and attitudes determine our value for both

08:16:54.440 men and women yeah going back to courtney you said you're a big believer in old school values by the

08:17:00.520 way final uh if you guys want i guess last call on the roast if you want uh i mean we'll get them in as

08:17:08.520 they come in through the show but uh you said you're a big believer in old school values if a

08:17:13.000 guy doesn't know basic etiquette like the sidewalk rule doesn't open the door for you expects intimacy

08:17:19.160 on the first date that's a major turn off you're a die-hard demi demi demi demi yeah english is my

08:17:26.040 second language uh so i need to truly connect with you and have a meaningful intelligent connection we

08:17:30.280 kind of talked about that uh so you're a believer in old school values big believer

08:17:39.800 i pay attention to if a guy opens the door for me and i do kind of

08:17:49.880 sorry um and i do kind of hold him accountable for that but that's just if i'm looking for like like i

08:18:00.280 i don't just date to date like i date because i see potential in that person like being with me

08:18:10.760 long term so it's like i'm more particular i guess do you think you can be intimate without being

08:18:17.400 sexual yeah just having like a good connection yeah a hundred percent i agree uh final two paragraphs

08:18:25.800 you said one thing about you is you're going to live on life on your terms so if you decide to pack

08:18:30.920 a bag and move to another country you're going to do it no hesitation you believe no one should

08:18:34.600 hold back for a partner you only get one life and it's meant to be experienced and enjoyed to the

08:18:38.760 fullest if three months of backpacking through a new country makes someone walk away it just shows

08:18:44.600 they're insecure and can't see the bigger picture you would never hold a partner back from pursuing

08:18:49.080 an adventure or experience in fact that's one reason you've dated so many amazing guys

08:18:53.160 from different parts of the world like you did an australian guy south african guy long distance

08:18:58.440 can absolutely work if both people are secure and know how to nurture the connection okay this kind of

08:19:05.480 ties in a little bit to like the guy not wanting the girl to go out to like the bar or club or rave

08:19:12.760 or excuse me or whatever it is or you go to raves so i would never date somebody that tells me i

08:19:18.040 can't okay i'll ask the question so let's say you've been dating a guy for a year you you love

08:19:23.800 him he loves you and he's like hey i'm not really comfortable with you going to a rave would you

08:19:29.240 be like that's no i'm going and that's the end of the relationship or yeah 100 because i work in music

08:19:36.120 and edm is where my whole thing is so in order for me to network i have to go to these well let's say

08:19:42.680 this was purely you were just going for the enjoyment of the experience it wasn't business

08:19:47.240 related like you're just going as a concert goer yeah no i wouldn't i wouldn't because for me that

08:19:53.080 is my concert i don't like going to like watch pop stars i go and watch djs so no but that's what

08:19:58.680 i'm saying like you're not going with the expressed intent of networking you're just going to the rave

08:20:06.440 like you're just going there as a watch the as a rave goer you're not going there to like network

08:20:13.960 you're going there to rave i guess maybe those are one in the same for you i don't know but yeah no i

08:20:20.840 wouldn't date somebody who ever told me that i can't go and do something that i enjoy because for

08:20:26.520 me that is a concert and i also am sober at those things so it's not i don't put myself into positions

08:20:35.080 where i would jeopardize my relationship by going to something that i enjoy okay but you said you're

08:20:40.280 a big believer in old school values yeah so i mean the sidewalk rule so like i'm just confused

08:20:47.400 the sidewalk rule pertains to protection the guy has to die because there's an oncoming car

08:20:54.520 but you won't he's like hey babe don't go to this rave where you're wearing like

08:21:00.760 i don't know they the rave gear is pretty revealing um wouldn't that be old school

08:21:08.040 values for him to be like no you're not going to this i well first of all i think i

08:21:16.040 just by choice like i dress a little bit more modesty like normally i just wear like an oversized

08:21:21.400 t-shirt and sneakers but you know they dress super revealing at raves yeah and i have no problem with

08:21:25.720 that like i've done it as well but i also would not pursue or date somebody who

08:21:33.160 wasn't a part of that venture as well because we wouldn't align i would never put myself or them

08:21:39.800 in a situation where they would feel like their boundaries are being crossed like i would know

08:21:45.000 before getting into a relationship if they have a problem with me going to a festival okay

08:21:51.480 what if he was fine with you going to the festival but you wanted to go wearing something more on the

08:21:58.280 revealing side and he's like don't wear that i would never date a guy that would say that but you

08:22:03.240 will date you want to date a guy who has to walk on the uh closer to the street so then the event that

08:22:10.600 a car is beelining it towards you he pushes you out of the way and he has to die okay so you won't

08:22:17.960 not dress a certain way wait just a minute you want a guy to die for you but you he's like i'm

08:22:23.160 not comfortable with you wearing that end of relationship there are guys out there that that

08:22:29.800 are like that i've dated them like it's not unheard of for a guy to walk on the outside open the door

08:22:37.000 for you you know like my boyfriend does all those things he's he's a complete gentleman yeah you can be

08:22:42.280 a gentleman like i act like a lady with him you know like it's nice to just like let him lead i

08:22:48.040 very much so act like a lady you said you're a big believer in old school values that is old so should

08:22:53.560 the man be the leader i don't think that's a part of my old school values i think that i can pick and

08:23:02.200 choose which ones i relate to ah this is the this is the the thing when it comes to feminism you want to

08:23:08.680 pick and choose oh here are all the like positive components of like traditionalism and uh like

08:23:15.800 old school values i like it when men pay i like it when uh they protect i didn't say the first or the

08:23:23.160 second one i know i'm not necessarily speaking about you but you want a guy to protect you you said the

08:23:28.200 sidewalk rule that's literally the guy is willing to walk closer to the road in the event a car is

08:23:34.680 beelining towards you he can push you out of the way and protect you at maybe a risk to his own

08:23:41.160 uh life and limb okay that's your standard for somebody that i'm gonna look like at as a life

08:23:48.840 partner absolutely on the first date right you expect that on the first date so i talk to people

08:23:54.200 before i go out on a date i don't just go out on a date i don't hey just want to check if we go on

08:23:59.000 the state you're willing to die for me i mean that's wild is that what you do like no but isn't

08:24:05.480 that the sidewalk rule like if you boil it down when i'm talking to somebody i explain like i really

08:24:13.800 hold like a high value to gentlemen like men that open doors things like that like people

08:24:20.840 when when i'm talking to somebody outside of a friendship you know who i am what i value and what

08:24:27.800 i'm looking for and i would hope that they would do the same and that's how you find people that

08:24:33.000 you align with what do you have do you think you're giving them the same respect back again with like

08:24:38.760 i said earlier you're they're willing to die for you but you can't even change your shirt change my

08:24:44.440 shirt babes i wear oversized t-shirts i wear stuff that's more covered than you in the hypothetical

08:24:50.840 but i would also respect my man if you if i had a man he was like hey i'm not comfortable with you

08:24:54.840 wearing that i would be respectful enough to be like all right yeah like i'll change oh i'd have

08:24:59.400 a conversation about it like if it i would everything is always open for discussion and conversation

08:25:07.560 can i ask you a question though is the is the walking the sidewalk rule is that open to discussion

08:25:13.960 he's like babe before i do this i want to have a conversation about it and i want you to hear

08:25:20.280 me out i would totally and he's his position is contrary to your position he's like no i want

08:25:28.040 you to walk on the inside of the sidewalk when you have a partner whether you're married or not

08:25:34.360 you have to hear the other person out that's called communication and understanding okay even

08:25:39.080 if i don't agree with it i still have to hear my partner out but so you would hear this guy out who

08:25:45.080 on the first date he's like hey i want to i want you to hear me out i think that this is a rather

08:25:51.000 sexist gender expectation on men and i don't know if you consider yourself more like like liberal or

08:25:58.680 progressive yeah exactly uh maybe you consider yourself more liberal progressive maybe you're

08:26:03.880 open to dating like do you prefer to date a guy who's liberal i don't know if you're liberal i'm

08:26:07.960 i'm i am just open in general look if i connect with somebody like if it's i don't i just allow

08:26:16.760 whatever you'll date a trump supporter i don't be honest i wouldn't you wouldn't date a trump supporter

08:26:25.720 i don't he has a red mega hat you're walking around you're you he's most likely he's walking

08:26:31.320 closer to the road but he's wearing a trump hat you're dating him if somebody openly wore that no i

08:26:37.320 probably would not um so but that's not to say that i don't respect other people that may or may

08:26:44.600 not vote differently than me i don't think that that's like sure can you just repeat though what

08:26:49.240 you said about you said you'd like to pick and choose is that what you said of what when we were

08:26:55.240 talking about i look for in a partner absolutely i think everybody does picks picks and choose right

08:27:00.040 sure but this is what's confusing to me okay is that women are the most like modern

08:27:07.240 non-traditional women ever but you want to pick and choose like you want a guy to pay for not you but

08:27:13.720 women in general want a guy to pay for the first date want a guy to be protector want a guy to lead

08:27:18.760 want a guy to take initiative want a guy to be all these things i that relate specifically to a more

08:27:25.960 traditional gender dynamic okay but then in the same breath you want to throw away any of the

08:27:34.680 perhaps traditional expectations that would fall on you okay so all the traditional components that

08:27:42.360 you stand to benefit from men being protectors men being leaders men being providers paying for dates

08:27:47.720 etc yes i love those let's keep those uh but do you date men huh do you date men why would that be

08:27:54.840 relevant but no but why would that be relevant it's relevant in what i'm about to say i think

08:28:01.720 maybe it's a california thing i don't know i mean a little bit of a free bird over here but

08:28:08.040 good song i feel like it is very hard to find a man that is willing to be the provider and the

08:28:18.520 protector so i like you saying that like men have to be this and have to be that like show me a man

08:28:28.600 that is like that that lives in la i'm so sorry to interrupt but i do have to go because i flew in here

08:28:35.080 so thank you for we're about to wrap if you can stay like we're literally about less than 10 minutes

08:28:40.360 yeah yeah okay it's 10 15. all right what traditional things do you bring to a man as a woman

08:28:49.400 traditional can you elaborate like you expect a man to be the protector and provider xyz what do you

08:28:54.760 bring i actually did not say that okay so the sidewalk rule what do you if he's going to do that

08:29:00.520 for you what are you going to do for him as a traditional woman what is your definition of

08:29:06.120 traditional woman the man provides because i'm talking about like things that i look for that

08:29:13.480 are like traditional values i guess right will you follow a man's lead

08:29:22.760 elaborate i mean the rave scenario i mean you already rejected this idea that he would

08:29:30.360 not want you to go the rave so i granted the scenario well okay he's letting you go to the

08:29:34.600 rave but he doesn't want you to dress in this specific way you won't even submit to him on that

08:29:40.200 you're not submissive i'm neutral like i'm i'm not i'm not a submissive i am i am a very independent

08:29:50.120 fully capable okay financially supporting myself woman then why does the man need to literally

08:29:56.200 potentially give his life for you you want a guy to be willing to give his life

08:30:03.240 to protect you sir but he's he if he says babe i'm not comfortable with you wearing that to your

08:30:11.640 rave that's where the relationship is over but you want him to die for you no i did not say that

08:30:19.480 it's implied i would have a conversation no no no you said the sidewalk rule you it's a rule the guy has

08:30:28.440 to walk closer to the street it's implied in the example you provided yeah if i'm looking for a life

08:30:34.440 partner absolutely are you not looking for that i thought you don't do like one night stand so

08:30:39.880 obviously you're looking for a relationship i mean currently i'm not but so you'd be so what i mean

08:30:46.200 i don't know what you're saying like you would date a guy for three months who wouldn't do that i would

08:30:52.120 not date somebody who ever prevented me from progressing in my career i work in music and

08:31:01.800 maybe men should have the attitude of i wouldn't date a girl who would only date me if i had to

08:31:08.360 die for her that's okay then we're not compatible and that's totally fine i hope that's fine but you

08:31:14.040 hold the expectation i'm trying to see if there's like a consistency what i bring to the table so for

08:31:19.160 you to say that like what what do you mean you don't know how i am in a relationship you don't

08:31:27.880 know what i provide i feel like it's very reasonable for me to say hey do you mind opening the door for

08:31:32.680 me like that's not crazy why but why do you want you say you believe in old school uh tradition or what

08:31:39.480 was it i don't want to misquote you you said you a big believer in old school values guys who don't

08:31:43.800 know basic etiquette like the sidewalk rule doesn't open the door for you that's that's chivalry yeah

08:31:49.960 and i think that's a trait that a lot of men should have i think it's okay so women be submissive

08:31:56.600 i think a woman should do whatever she feels is right for her then should men do whatever they

08:32:01.160 feel is right for them which would entail not having to do all these arbitrary traditional gender

08:32:08.040 roles let me revoke what i just said revoke what i think okay go ahead every person should do what is

08:32:17.400 right for them it's not male or female it's whatever is right for you whatever is right for your

08:32:22.280 relationship whatever is right for your marriage whatever works for you works for you and i know what

08:32:27.960 works for me i that's just it's not a deal breaker i'm not going to be like like if i meet an amazing

08:32:37.800 man i'm not going to be like fuck you you don't walk on the outside of the sidewalk that's insane

08:32:44.200 i mean but isn't that one of the things that you're looking for i can look for something and

08:32:50.440 still not be an so you'd be totally cool like this this guy but you're saying he has to make up for it

08:32:55.800 basically what do you mean i never said that that's putting words in my mouth

08:32:59.720 but you you okay you said well he's this like really amazing guy but he doesn't do the sidewalk

08:33:05.320 rule thing i never said he would have to make up for it you just put words in okay so you would date

08:33:12.600 a guy who doesn't follow the sidewalk rule if he wait no no that totally contradicts what you said

08:33:17.640 earlier you said if it's a guy i'm looking for marriage for yeah he has to do it that i look

08:33:22.200 for gentlemen behaviors absolutely like opening the door for me but it's not a deal breaker and

08:33:27.640 you're not a piece of if you didn't grow up or have that instilled in you okay so would you have

08:33:33.720 a conversation with him like okay yeah earlier i said everything is a conversation and everything

08:33:38.680 is communication in a relationship friendship and a marriage but what i mean by that is let's say

08:33:43.720 he didn't do it on the first date would you then have a conversation with him trying to

08:33:48.200 uh assert your standards onto him or would you be would you be totally okay with for the entire

08:33:57.000 duration of the relationship he did not adhere to the sidewalk rule so i dated a guy once who didn't

08:34:05.000 grow up with those like you know initiatives and i literally had a conversation with him and i said hey

08:34:12.280 like i know this is dumb but for me like i really value when a guy opens the door for me would you

08:34:19.400 mind trying to do that and that's that's beautiful now the guy comes to you and has a conversation with

08:34:26.200 you saying hey listen uh i'm trying to remember precisely what the words you used i really value when

08:34:33.640 a woman respects when i ask her to not dress a certain way he could have the same exact conversation

08:34:41.240 about that and you would say no right i would say totally understand that's your boundary but this

08:34:50.760 relationship is over how do we get past this and communicate to where i don't feel like i'm being

08:34:58.600 suppressed and you also feel respected it's a conversation it's communication so are you saying

08:35:05.800 it's my way or the highway i didn't say that so what like going out of the way for your partner

08:35:11.240 like my boyfriend me are always trying to go above and beyond absolutely i for my important part of my

08:35:19.480 biggest love language is gift giving and acts of service i like i love cooking for my partners i will

08:35:27.320 do laundry i that is something that like i love cleaning like i have gotten an x i took them to

08:35:36.200 hawaii like all expenses paid like i don't you know what i mean like i like to go above and beyond

08:35:43.240 of course i want that in return right just feels like there's boundaries on like there's limits on on

08:35:50.440 everything it just depends on the that topic in the relationship for sure i think every relationship

08:35:55.160 is different and everything you know everybody has their own idea of what fits for them yeah i agree

08:36:02.840 okay so what would be like just jumping to the conclusion you have the conversation with him

08:36:08.680 what would be the compromise for you

08:36:15.640 i think like going through okay well what what makes you comfortable like what do you think we can

08:36:21.000 agree on like hey i'm gonna wear this or like hey do you want to go with me no he doesn't want to go

08:36:27.240 with you see i why doesn't he want to go with me what's the compromise though just cutting to the

08:36:34.280 compromise having a conversation no i know the conversations being had what's the compromise the

08:36:39.960 compromise is coming to an agreement on something that doesn't make him uncomfortable and doesn't make

08:36:47.960 me feel like i'm suppressing who i am so would you change your clothing at all maybe sure maybe i don't

08:36:57.320 dress revealing first of all the hypothetical the hypothetical is establishing that in this specific

08:37:03.400 instance you were going to dress revealing and he had an issue with it and you said well i wouldn't

08:37:08.680 take a guy who tried to uh this is totally hypothetical because i would never date a guy that ever tries to

08:37:15.400 tell me where i should travel how long i should be gone for i just that's not who i am why would

08:37:21.720 why should a guy date you don't you think relationships are give and take yeah but so

08:37:27.880 why should a guy date you when you tell him where he needs to walk on the side of the road did i not

08:37:33.800 say that that like isn't something that like if he was a great guy i wouldn't just be like fuck you

08:37:40.040 you don't know the sidewalk rule that i would have a conversation about him but you would eventually

08:37:45.640 want him to arrive to agree with you i think that if you value your partner then you value the things

08:37:54.040 that make them feel good and if opening the door for your partner makes them feel good whether you

08:38:00.360 think it's stupid or not you're gonna want to do it why doesn't that apply to it makes the guy feel

08:38:05.560 good that you don't go and you listen to him and you respect him and you don't go to that rave

08:38:11.160 dressed in a way that he objects to he can go with me we can have a conversation about what i'm gonna

08:38:18.840 wear like it's not relationships are give and take 100 and again okay i don't date people that don't

08:38:26.280 understand what industry i work in because it won't work a nine to five will not work

08:38:35.320 okay uh well i mean we can at this point we're kind of just going back and forth i'm gonna let

08:38:40.520 a couple of roasts come in i have like one or two final things on that but spicy ween 89 donated 20

08:38:47.080 dollars so where is dark lady you at tonight she's she is um i don't know to be honest thank you

08:38:59.240 though thank you endeavor 40 donated 19 and 99 cents to the question earlier what can a woman bring

08:39:07.240 respect is our love language remove materialism and bring yourself we will deliver more to the

08:39:13.560 unexpected submissiveness makes you more powerful big sass energy donated twenty dollars never heard

08:39:22.360 of sidewalk rule got roasted by the girl i'm dating about it after our first date opened our doors

08:39:29.640 otherwise very chivalrous i called her tick tock you stole that from me giggled i walk roadside now

08:39:36.200 that's funny chair underscore three underscore simp donated twenty dollars chair three you look

08:39:43.320 gorgeous can you please show us your arm tattoos also would you date a guy who makes six figures who

08:39:50.520 has a house a pool and a boat what is so donated twenty dollars not surprised that a woman grasps onto

08:39:59.560 the outliers the many who are talking about experience temptation you don't desire their virginity

08:40:06.200 you desire their self-control that isn't the majority of that's a good point michael jones donated

08:40:13.240 twenty dollars chair one is cooked she wants to have her cake and eat it too you don't get to cherry

08:40:20.120 pick what trad values you believe in you're either trad or modern and in your case you're too modern for

08:40:26.920 you your xd donated twenty dollars chair one's statement about living life to the fullest is a

08:40:33.960 perfect encapsulation of modern hedonism under rejection of duty it will be that which destroys

08:40:39.960 our civilization sad stuff sad stuff it's very sad donated thirty dollars blondie you pick and choose

08:40:49.000 so about those eggplants wow uh here while that mr jimmy blondie you aren't traditional you want to

08:40:55.640 live the single girl life and want some simp to worship and die for you to fulfill your need for

08:41:00.200 attention thank you mr jimmy interesting your parents realize they're living proof that two ones don't

08:41:05.960 make a right like where some of you born this dump or did you have to take lessons what the

08:41:11.480 reason why divorce rates are high big sass energy donated twenty dollars i obliged to sidewalk rule

08:41:20.040 for my girl something i'd never heard before because she's a christian girl who is truly feminine and

08:41:26.120 good i would never have been so willing to oblige to anything else thank you big sass i appreciate

08:41:33.720 i don't know did that come in twice blazing dunes donated twenty dollars thank you blazing

08:41:39.960 brian keep up the hard work appreciate it one did you get dropped as a kid cause your brain

08:41:46.120 is all scrambled honestly probably i have adhd

08:41:53.160 slow slow yeah i don't know um i'm i'm just confused as to like the reconciliation here when it

08:42:02.840 comes to okay here's like you believe in old school values you want a guy to die for

08:42:09.880 you basically no i didn't say that's that's the implication that's the implication of the sidewalk

08:42:15.160 rule explain to me the sidewalk rule just explain to me do you not know it okay fine i'll so the

08:42:23.560 sidewalk rule is the guy walks closer to the road where cars are driving to protect you okay from cars

08:42:33.320 okay so conceivably if he's closer to the road and a car is like driving onto the sidewalk or something

08:42:39.240 he could either push you out of the way or he's more likely to be the one that gets hit

08:42:44.360 maybe it's just the thought that counts i don't know like it's a thought it's just a gentleman thing

08:42:51.480 to do and it's a ladylike thing to do to defer to your boyfriend's uh leadership in a relationship

08:42:59.240 and if he says babe i don't want you to wear that you say yes sir i respect you that's it

08:43:06.120 and you don't do it easy yeah because i i don't like allow i don't think anybody should ever allow

08:43:14.200 somebody to to what to have a boundary

08:43:19.720 that's why there's so many different people in the world because you find the people that

08:43:25.800 you align with when it comes to finding your person yeah i agree with you but you have okay

08:43:32.120 your expectations of men super super like traditional old school values no so here's the thing

08:43:38.760 my expectation be nice to other people i pay attention to how you talk to waitresses

08:43:45.960 like do you help other people out when we're out like are you are you a good person are you loyal

08:43:54.840 can you open the door it's not like i'm sitting here being like can you buy me a louis vuitton bag

08:43:58.840 or take me on a dinner for 500 you can open the door for yourself i don't want to why because i want

08:44:05.560 to see that my partner wants to do that for me and that's okay for me to feel that wants to see that

08:44:10.280 you won't go to a rave dress like a strumpet a strumpet strumpet yes strumpet it sounds like

08:44:18.120 a pastry my dude they're delicious okay oh okay all right well uh we're gonna just be like the

08:44:26.440 strumpets i guess crutch rats donated thirty dollars besides blondie can you stop on the

08:44:32.520 fucking the camera literally don't know what you're talking about it's definitely true you've

08:44:37.080 been doing that all night what are you talking about it's crazy man that's just crazy uh let's

08:44:42.520 do the patrice clip and wrap the show i'm gonna get some food after this trust me thank you man

08:44:54.200 yeah in fact i'm gonna have i'm gonna randomly pick a girl to clean the bathroom oh you know what

08:45:00.600 you're gonna you down to clean my bathroom in the blazing dunes donated twenty dollars after this

08:45:05.160 you don't want me brian speaks for most men he's been doing this podcast for years so he has received

08:45:12.120 their opinions yeah oh because she was saying like have you dated men can you only have an like an

08:45:18.360 opinion i don't i i i was curious what the point like you asked have you dated because if you haven't

08:45:23.480 dated a man you wouldn't understand how a man is romantically correct i am a man that doesn't mean

08:45:28.920 that you understand the dynamic of being in a relationship but wait i could just reverse

08:45:32.600 this argument to you you're not a man you don't know how men think i am a man i know how men think

08:45:38.520 no yes i've been in relationships with women so i can take my own experiences and come to like but

08:45:46.360 you don't know how it is to have a man treat you correct in a romantic sense i mean maybe you do i

08:45:51.160 don't know what you do in your private business no i've not dated a guy if that's no okay yeah so so

08:45:58.040 then you don't understand what the dynamic is this is a fallacy have you ever had an abortion

08:46:05.640 no oh so are you not allowed to have an opinion on abortions because you've never had an abortion

08:46:11.880 i allow everybody to have their own opinion do you have a position on abortion even though you've

08:46:16.360 never had an abortion my position is everybody should do whatever they want and what makes them

08:46:23.240 happy and okay so you're pro-choice if somebody no if somebody has more conservative views that's

08:46:28.200 great it's not i'm just explaining that you it's a fallacy to say because you haven't had

08:46:34.120 x experience that you can't like form an opinion on it i don't want to voice my opinion on it because

08:46:41.240 i don't think that's fair to everybody that has differing opinions sometimes it's okay to not voice your

08:46:47.080 opinion but so okay you said you asked if i've ever dated men how does that pertain to me like

08:46:54.600 having opinions on dating how does that pertain to abortion

08:47:02.440 i'm so sorry that's fine that's fine i'm gonna have to go okay that's fine uh yeah i mean we have

08:47:07.400 our last thing here we're gonna do a video jones donated twenty dollars brian because you're a

08:47:12.840 psychic give us one psychic prediction oh i actually am a psychic that's why i have these

08:47:18.040 crystals here i'm a clairvoyant so here's my prediction for your future and any women i'm

08:47:23.400 i'm gonna do this one for free because i'm hooked up any of you girls here want to ask me for your

08:47:28.120 psychic reading i charge uh i charge fifty dollars okay fifty bucks that's a great price for what

08:47:34.360 second what second psychic reading charge per what per reading oh yeah i will give you your psychic

08:47:45.640 reading okay your psychic reading is as follows great you are going to continue being a musician

08:47:52.440 you're going to start dating a soundcloud rapper you're going to get knocked up you're going to get

08:47:57.480 don't worry it's going to happen you're going to get knocked up and then you're going to get uh

08:48:01.720 you're going to have like multiple baby daddies and then you are going to start a yoga retreat

08:48:09.160 in north dakota for some reason i don't know i get that from you yeah and then yoga and then like

08:48:16.520 some other crazy love yoga you're gonna start a cult and then you are yeah is there cats and then you're

08:48:22.840 gonna live happily ever after you're actually gonna live happily ever after minus the like multiple baby

08:48:27.240 daddies that's gonna kind of be a problem jokes jokes on you though because i actually can't

08:48:31.560 carry my own kids so i actually get to decide when i have a kid because i have to get a surrogate

08:48:38.200 so that's what i was talking about you were going to get sure obviously oh yeah that's what i meant

08:48:43.480 you were multiple baby daddies through surrogacy ah so that's how it works okay

08:48:52.520 reasonable chapter great twenty dollars the assumption is you chose this man you trust your

08:48:58.840 judgment if so then wouldn't you assume this man has your best interest in mind so then trust your

08:49:05.400 judgment and listen to your man wait damien do you have the patrice video do you not you got it oh sweet

08:49:11.000 okay let's blast it and then we're robbing all right okay guys listen

08:49:17.640 here's a question because i'm gonna ask you a question okay ladies if you didn't have a vagina

08:49:25.800 like say it was a terrible train accident right and the doctor was like we have to remove your

08:49:30.440 pussy right away or you're gonna die yep how would you keep your man past you get a two-month

08:49:42.200 guilty i can't leave the bitch right away because she just lost the pussy in a train accident

08:49:49.960 can't just walk right out on him

08:49:51.320 how would you keep your man past that if you didn't have a vagina

08:50:01.560 pause it pause it pause it pause it pause it okay uh you're you answer how do you keep your man huh

08:50:09.400 if you didn't have a vagina how do you keep your man were you listening hello

08:50:14.520 yeah i was listening okay i'm just fried we've been here for like 27 hours i'm trying to get this out

08:50:19.720 here as soon as you answer this question just go ahead how would i keep my man i mean i would hope

08:50:25.320 that they would not just value me for a vagina i totally agree but he's asking what would you do

08:50:34.200 to keep your men like do you expect them to just not bust nuts or yeah can you just answer a question

08:50:43.640 i don't know how to if you just answered a question oh but what about

08:50:49.800 can you just answer the question so i can get this out of here

08:50:51.720 i don't know how to answer it leave answer the question have her answer it first okay i'm

08:50:56.680 what's how do you keep your man throat goat throat goat beautiful yeah there's multiple holes

08:51:02.120 multiple holes see how easy that is mouth still works mouth still works i'll get the

08:51:05.800 pussy pocket she brings in the pocket pussy okay yeah you could do things to him you huh say that again

08:51:11.240 you could do things to him you could do things to him that was really graphic thank you next yeah

08:51:17.000 those things i don't know what things cook for him cook for him okay what do you do to keep your man

08:51:22.280 though yeah i'm just cook for him okay cool cook for him you weren't cooking before okay so you just

08:51:28.280 keep doing the same shit you're doing okay what about you you don't need a vagina to keep your man

08:51:32.520 sexually happy okay what do you do uh there's your mouth there's your hand there's your ass ass yeah

08:51:38.120 oh belly button who knows ear what about you i would literally give up on life you wouldn't

08:51:44.360 if the pussy's gone you give up how are you gonna give up okay what about you i would continue being

08:51:52.520 a great mother and i bring him peace it's beautiful it's beautiful i would uh be a good

08:51:58.520 wife and i have to still have a butt so okay what about you be patient and agreeable and use that

08:52:03.960 mouth okay play the rest cool

08:52:07.000 wow nothing you can talk you can talk armpit

08:52:18.840 suck his dick okay mouth

08:52:24.920 asshole okay great do you see what i'm saying now i've been getting pussybeating the whole show right

08:52:31.400 but i give women the opportunity to say i want to make myself worth more but you just classified

08:52:37.000 yourself as a series of holes but i'm supposed to treat you special but you're just a bunch of

08:52:46.440 holes for yourself keep it playing no one said learn how to play xbox learn how to play pool

08:52:53.000 tell better stories get another bitch that got a pussy to come on in

08:53:02.200 oh that's okay all right last chat's coming through then we're wrapping okay three chats blazing

08:53:07.320 dunes donated 21 dollars i missed most of today's show so if you feel this is about you then enjoy

08:53:15.400 a glow stick has a brighter future than you lasts longer too

08:53:21.960 toast donated 20 dollars it's funny this chick says she is demisexual and attracted to intelligence

08:53:28.520 but has literally no opinions on literally anything and barely understand hypotheticals and can barely

08:53:34.200 handle conversations thank you toast enlightened donated 20 dollars share for the face that launched a

08:53:41.720 thousand ship that is all what chair four i don't know what that means yo christopher c sent you uh

08:53:50.760 thank you for the 20 on cash app ashley thanks for the five on venmo second super chat came through

08:53:55.560 oh i think it's this one i've been playing warframe almost exclusively for over decades some guys have

08:54:00.040 been playing whoa dnd and other games for even longer we have no problem with commitment it is possible

08:54:04.760 though that you are the problem okay thank you christopher for the super chat appreciate it guys like

08:54:10.120 the video gentlemen oh we have this one coming through me crash rats donated 30 dollars all girls

08:54:17.000 give a kiss to camera okay if you want you can blow a kiss to that camera if you guys want

08:54:24.600 lovely okay uh let's see here uh we're gonna raid grayson on twitch okay damien uh final question uh who

08:54:32.920 here if there was a zombie apocalypse are you gonna try to survive or are you just gonna like

08:54:39.000 like end it like i feel like you would because you said you said if the

08:54:44.840 pussy was gone you're ending you said you ended there so if the zombie so scared of zombies what if

08:54:51.480 you have kids though what if you have kids you you do you try to survive or you're like well how

08:54:55.240 would i have kids that had no pussy lips it wasn't it's a different scenario it's not the same scenario

08:55:02.520 very fair it's not you that that's that would be too tragic you lose the pussy and they're zombies

08:55:08.840 right you can't you can't lose both you know it's kind of like you you gotta pick a battle like if

08:55:14.840 you're like you this is a joke don't be offended you can't be like black and gay and trans because you

08:55:23.880 gotta pick your it's a oh my god i butchered the joke well you know what i mean because they're

08:55:31.080 already dealing with one okay there's a better way to say that joke you know what i mean

08:55:38.520 like how are you gonna be ugly and all that you gotta you know damn it's two in the morning

08:55:44.520 i know i'm like wait so yeah i love the side wait so who who just ends it if the zombie apocalypse

08:55:53.480 breaks out abigail you ended or you survivor i'm a survivor that's what's up my girl what's

08:55:58.520 up to survive w surviving there we go surviving surviving surviving any anybody not surviving i'd

08:56:06.600 rather not you just want to end it if it meant protecting my kids yeah but like that's a deal

08:56:11.000 breaker for me if she's not gonna she's not gonna ride with me in the zombie apocalypse it's over

08:56:17.400 i expect to inherit the kingdom i want to go oh okay she was you got kids what if you have kids

08:56:23.480 you got to survive for sure for my kids i would yeah in a hypothetical situation right now i'm single

08:56:29.320 and i have no kids so i would kill myself oh my god anyways um okay damien we're gonna do the raid

08:56:34.840 uh so okay gg oh we didn't do well we don't have time gg well played to the panel last call hit the

08:56:41.320 like button please on your way out damien if you could pull up the like uh thank you for tuning in

08:56:45.560 tonight guys you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that

08:56:49.080 thank you to everyone who super chats donates and supports the show your patronage uh we can't

08:56:54.360 do the show without you guys so thank you so much for your patronage we will be live again

08:56:57.720 sunday at 5 p.m pacific any girls who want to be on the show you can dm out whatever on instagram if

08:57:01.720 you can make it to santa barbara oh sevens in the chat we're going to do the raid to grayson he's playing

08:57:05.960 uh pull pull him up pull him up he's about to kill onyxia in world of warcraft he's playing classic

08:57:13.560 i'm going to send the raid thank you guys for watching on twitch guys before i send you over check you

08:57:17.480 it check if you have a prime sub drop us a prime sub and drop us a follow if you're watching over

08:57:21.560 there on twitch all right they're about to raid onyxia guys tell him tell him to dance tell him to uh

08:57:27.960 tell him whatever tells him to slash dance okay uh i'm sending the raid over thank you guys for watching

08:57:32.920 on twitch we're gonna send that boom okay that should have been sent that should be coming through

08:57:37.480 why not yo is fail gonzo bail yo whatever yo thank you for the raids dog i appreciate it i hope you

08:57:50.200 had a good ass dream do a slash dance oh you want to see the torn dance bro there it is you know what

08:57:56.600 the torn dance oh it's oh it's the banana this song here these are brief descriptors of your

08:58:03.640 current situation there it is all right they're about to uh kill the slay the dragon they're about

08:58:09.160 to slay onyxia they're in onyxia's later layer okay all right you can exile that uh okay oh seven's

08:58:16.520 in the chat guys i hope you guys have a good night big panel good show thank you guys hope you guys

08:58:21.800 have a good night we will see you next time good night guys

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Whatever Podcast - March 03, 2025

TRIGGERED Girl WALKS OFF The Show？! She Has 4 Kids From 4 Fathers？! HEATED DEBATE On Chivalry! ｜ Dating Talk #232

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